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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are really

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unpacking a figure who is essentially the definition

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of it's complicated. That's putting it mildly.

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We're talking about a man whose life story it

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reads like a tragic novel or maybe an action

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movie that kind of morphs into a political thriller.

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Yeah, that's a good way to put it. He defines

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a massive chunk of Mexican history, a period

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literally named after him. The Porfiriato. We

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are talking about Porfirio Diaz. It is a fascinating

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case study in power. We often look at historical

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figures as, you know, static. They're either

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the hero on the horse or the villain in the palace.

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Good or bad. Exactly. Diaz manages to be both,

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depending on which chapter of his life you're

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reading. And the central irony, the thing we

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really need to get our heads around today, is

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that he rose to power fighting against dictatorship.

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His whole platform was no re -election. Right.

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And then he stays in power for over 30 years.

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That is the part that always gets me. It's like,

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how do you go from being the guy shouting down

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with the tyrant to being the tyrant yourself?

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Precisely. He becomes the very thing he fought

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against. But to understand how that happens and

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to understand the Mexico he created, modern Mexico,

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really, we have to look at the mechanics of his

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rule. We have to look at the bread or bludgeon

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policy. No, no. Palago. Yes. Bread or the stick.

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It sounds simple, but it was a very sophisticated

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system of control. So for this deep dive, we've

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got a stack of sources here. Biographical details,

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military records, political analyses drawing

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heavily from the Wikipedia entry on Diaz. And

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our mission is to trace this arc from the young,

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scrappy soldier to the Republican monarch who

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eventually had to flee to Paris. And along the

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way, we need to ask, was the stability he brought

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worth the cost? because that is the question

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that still haunts the legacy of the Porfiriato.

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You can't really understand Mexico today without

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wrestling with that question. Let's start at

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the beginning, and I mean the very beginning,

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because if you look at his portraits, you know,

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the ones where he's got the white mustache, the

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medals, looking very European, you wouldn't guess

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where he started. No, you absolutely wouldn't.

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He was born in Oaxaca in 1830. And his background

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was modest. It wasn't the bottom of the barrel,

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but it certainly wasn't the elite. Not from the

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Mexico City inner circle. Not at all. His father

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was a Criollo of Spanish descent who ran a small

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inn and an agave farm. Agave. So we're talking

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mezcal production. Exactly. A very Oaxacan trade.

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But tragedy struck early. His father died of

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cholera when Diaz was only three years old. So

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he's raised by a single mother. Right. Maria

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Petrona Cecilia Mori Cortez. And this is important.

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Her mother, Diaz's grandmother, was Mixtec. So

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Diaz is of mixed heritage, a mestizo, in a time

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when social stratification based on race was

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very, very real. He was a provincial boy with

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indigenous roots. And like a lot of bright kids

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from modest means in that era, the path up, the

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only real scholarship program available was through

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the church, right? Precisely. His godfather was

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a bishop, which was a huge connection to have,

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a massive leg up. So the plan was set. Porfirio

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was to become a priest. He entered the seminary

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at 15. He was learning Latin, theology, the whole

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nine yards. But something didn't click. But,

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and here's the first major pivot point in his

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life. He didn't have the vocation. He realized

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that quiet life just wasn't for him. He had other

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ambitions. By 1849, he decides the priesthood

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isn't going to work. He switches to law. And

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this is where history gets a little too poetic.

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Because you'll never guess who his mentor was

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at the Institute of Arts and Sciences. This is

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the part that blows my mind. It's like it was

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written for a movie. It really is. His mentor

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was none other than Benito Juarez. The future

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liberal president. The giant of Mexican history.

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The man on the peso notes. The very same. The

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man Diaz would later idolize, then fight for,

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and eventually run against. But at this stage,

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Juarez is the professor. the governor of Oaxaca,

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the inspiration. And you have to imagine what

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that meant. Juarez was a Zapotec indigenous man

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who had risen to the highest levels of law and

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politics. For a young mestizo like Diaz, seeing

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Juarez must have been electrifying. It showed

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him a path was possible. So Juarez brings him

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into the fold and Diaz becomes active in liberal

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politics because of this connection. We should

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probably clarify what liberal meant back then

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in Mexico. It's not today's definition. Right.

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Good point. In the 19th century, Being a liberal

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meant you wanted a secular state. You wanted

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to strip the Catholic Church of its massive land

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holdings and political power. You wanted a federal

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republic. The conservatives, on the other hand.

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They wanted a strong central government, maybe

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even a monarchy, and to protect the church's

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privileges. Exactly. So it was a war over the

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soul of the country. A literal war. Several of

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them, actually. And that's where Diaz's path

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veers away from the courtroom. The mid -19th

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century in Mexico was just incredibly tumultuous.

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You had the Mexican -American War, the Reform

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War between liberals and conservatives, and then

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the French intervention. And Diaz gets swept

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up in all of it. He joins a battalion during

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the Mexican -American War, though he didn't see

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combat there. But during the Reform War, that's

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where he cuts his teeth. He really proves his

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mettle. And he gets hurt. Right. This isn't a

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guy leading from the back. Badly. He was shot

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in the leg during a battle against conservative

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forces. The recovery took four months, but he

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kept coming back. He fights his way up to the

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rank of general. But the real legend -making

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moments, the things that built his reputation,

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come during the Second French Intervention. This

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is where he turns into an action hero. I was

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reading the accounts of the Battle of Pueblo

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Cinco de Mayo, and I think people forget Diaz

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was a key player there. We always hear about

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General Zaragoza. Zaragoza was an overall command,

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yes. But on May 5th, 1862, Diaz was commanding

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a brigade on the plains to the right of the Mexican

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front, a critical position. When the French attacked,

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and you have to remember, the French army was

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considered the best in the world at this time.

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Diaz didn't just hold the line. He pushed back

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hard. He repulsed them and inflicted heady casualties.

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He even pursued them against orders until he

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was called back. It was a moment of pure tactical

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brilliance and aggression. So he's a legitimate

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war hero. This isn't later propaganda. This is

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real. Absolutely not propaganda. He earned those

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stripes. Yeah. And it wasn't just that one battle.

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The French eventually did take Puebla in a second

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siege and Diaz was captured. And this is where

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the action movie vibe really kicks in. The great

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escapes. I love this part of the story. He escaped

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confinement, rejoined the army, and eventually

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became the commander of the South. Think about

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what that means. While the French and the puppet

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Emperor Maximilian controlled the center of the

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country, Diaz was essentially running a one -man

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resistance down south. He controlled Oaxaca,

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Guerrero, Tabasco, and Chiapas. He was a warlord,

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basically. But a warlord for the Republic. An

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excellent way to put it. Yeah. But then he gets

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captured again. Seriously. They caught him twice.

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He wasn't very good at not getting captured.

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Or he was very good at putting himself in the

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thick of it. In 1865, he's forced to surrender

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Oaxaca City because he was outnumbered 10 to

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1. The French lock him up in Puebla again. They

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probably thought, OK, we've got him this time

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for good. But they were wrong. Wrong again. He

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escapes. The source mentions a second escape

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after seven months. It usually involved ropes,

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daggers slipping out in the dead of night. It's

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incredible. He's out and rebuilding an army almost

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immediately. That resilience is incredible. It

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explains why people followed him. He wasn't just

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a general giving orders from a tent. He was the

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guy who couldn't be kept in a cage. That reputation

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for being indomitable is crucial. It gave him

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an almost mystical quality. By 1867, the tide

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turns. The U .S. Civil War ends, which means

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the U .S. can start pressuring France to leave.

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Right, the Monroe Doctrine finally has some teeth

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again. Exactly. The French start pulling out

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and Diaz goes on the offensive. He retakes Puebla

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in what's called the Third Battle of Puebla.

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And I found a detail here that really shows his

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character at the time. A very hard edge. Oh,

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what's that? After retaking the city, he executed

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the imperialist officers. These were Mexicans

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who had sided with the French emperor. Yeah.

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But he didn't just execute them, he taunted them.

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He said, quote, even though they had not lived

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like men, they could die like men. Ruthless,

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but effective. That victory at Puebla cut off

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Mexico City from the coast. It sealed the fate

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of Emperor Maximilian. Diaz then moves on to

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Mexico City, takes it. And this is interesting.

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He hands it over to President Juarez. He plays

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the loyal soldier. Here you go, Mr. President.

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Your capital is ready. Exactly. But not for long.

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No. Not for long, because this is where the story

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shifts. The war is over. The external enemy is

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gone. Now the internal fighting begins. This

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is where we get into the paradox part of the

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title. The republic is restored. Juarez is president.

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You'd think Diaz would be happy. He won. His

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side won. But ambition is a funny thing. He felt

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he was owed more. He was the hero of the South.

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He ran for president against Juarez in 1867 and

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lost. He ran again in 1871 and lost again. And

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here is where the soldier stops accepting the

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chain of command. Diaz claimed fraud. He accused

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his old mentor. His old mentor, Juarez, of holding

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onto power for too long. And so he launches a

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revolt. The Plan de la Norte. But the slogan.

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No re -election. The irony is just, it's so thick

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you can cut it with a knife. It is the central

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contradiction. He argued that indefinite power

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corrupted the presidency. He basically said,

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Juarez, you've been in charge too long. It's

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undemocratic. But the revolt failed. It did.

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The army stayed loyal to the president. But then,

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history intervened. Juarez died in Office of

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Natural Causes shortly after. So he didn't defeat

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Juarez, he outlived him. In a way. Juarez was

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succeeded by Sebastian Lerdo de Tejada. Diaz

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eventually accepted amnesty. He went back to

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farming for a bit. But you know he didn't give

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up. No, because in 1876, Lerdo tries to run for

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re -election, and Diaz says, absolutely not,

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we are doing this again. This brings us to the

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plan of Tuxtepec. This is the successful revolution.

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Diaz issues a manifesto. And what's the slogan?

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Effective suffrage, no re -election. The same

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principle. He is painting himself as the defender

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of democracy against entrenched incumbents. Exactly.

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And this revolution has one of the best anecdotes

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in the whole source material. It feels like a

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spy novel. Diaz is in the U .S., right? In Texas.

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And he's trying to get back into Mexico to lead

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the troop. So he needs to get to Veracruz on

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the coast. Yes. He boards a steamer disguised

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as a doctor. A Cuban doctor. A Cuban doctor,

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specifically. But it goes wrong. Some officers

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on the ship recognize him. They spot him. So

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what does he do? He doesn't try to fight them

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on the boat. He jumps overboard. He jumps into

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the ocean, tries to swim ashore, but the current

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is too strong. Or he's spotted. He gets caught

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and brought back to the ship. That is humiliating.

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That should be the end of the story. It should

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have been the end. He should have been arrested

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and executed. But here is the stroke of luck.

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The ship's purser was sympathetic to him. The

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sources suggest he might have been a fellow mason.

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A secret handshake moment. Something like that.

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He helps Diaz hide again inside the ship. Wait,

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so he jumps off, gets caught, brought back, and

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then hides again on the same boat. Correct. He

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manages to stay hidden until they dock at the

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port of Veracruz. He sneaks off. heads to Oaxaca,

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raises an army, and defeats the government forces

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at the Battle of Ticoac. That is just sheer tenacity.

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You have to give him that. Force of will. Right.

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So in 1876, he marches into Mexico City. He's

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won. He is the president. He's the champion of

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no re -election. And for a moment, he actually

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sticks to it. This is a detail people often miss

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because of what happens later. He serves his

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first term. from 1876 to 1880, and then he steps

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down. She actually leaves office. He hands power

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to his ally, Manuel Gonzalez. Why? Was he actually

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committed to the principle at that point, or

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was it something else? I think it was a strategic

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move. Yeah. He wanted to maintain the appearance

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of constitutional rule. He didn't want to look

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like the dictators he had just fought. Plus,

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he needed to consolidate his base. So what does

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he do in the meantime? He becomes the governor

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of Oaxaca. And he even goes on what the sources

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call a working honeymoon to the United States.

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Oh, right. He takes his new wife, Carmen. And

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she's a really important figure in his life,

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isn't she? Very important. Carmen Romero Rubio.

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She was the daughter of a prominent supporter

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of Lerdo Diaz's enemy. By marrying her, she was

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healing political rifts. And she was also very

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upper class, very pious. She helped polish his

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rough edges. And this trip to the U .S., this

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working honeymoon. It wasn't just sightseeing.

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They go to New Orleans, Washington, D .C., New

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York. He was building business ties. He was meeting

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with investors, with politicians like Ulysses

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S. Grant. He was laying the groundwork for the

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economic policies that would define his later

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rule. He was selling brand Mexico to the Americans.

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Meanwhile, back in Mexico, how is President Gonzalez

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doing? The guy keeping the seat warm. Not great.

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There are corruption charges, financial troubles.

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There was the nickel coinage crisis. People were

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furious. It's widely believed that Diaz might

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have, well, let's just say he didn't help Gonzalez's

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reputation. He might have even sabotaged it a

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bit. So he set him up to fail. It certainly looks

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that way. Because by the time 1884 rolled around,

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the country was sick of the chaos. They were

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begging for the strongman to come back. They

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looked at Gonzalez and said, this isn't working.

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They looked at Diaz and said. He can fix it.

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And come back he did. In 1884, Diaz runs again.

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And this time, he conveniently forgets all about

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that no re -election promise. He amends the Constitution

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to allow two terms. Then he amends it to remove

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restrictions entirely. And he stays. From 1884

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until 1911, he is the absolute ruler of Mexico.

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So let's unpack the Porfiriato. Because it wasn't

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just him sitting in a chair for 30 years. He

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had a very specific way of ruling. You mentioned

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bread or bludgeon. How did that work in practice?

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Panopallo. It was a system of rewards and punishments.

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The bread was patronage. If you were an opponent,

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a general with big army or a regional strongman,

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Diaz wouldn't necessarily fight you. He'd buy

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you off. He'd offer you a government job. He'd

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give you a contract. He'd make you a governor.

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He co -opted them. He made them part of the system.

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Why fight Diaz when being his friend makes you

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rich? A kind of if you can't beat him, have him

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join you philosophy. Precisely. And if he didn't

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take the bread, if he had principles or just

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wanted more. Then you got the bludgeon, the stick,

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repression. He expanded the rural police force.

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Now, these guys are interesting. They were nominally

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there to stop banditry on the roads. Which they

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did. And they did that. They made transport safer

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for commerce, which the foreign investors absolutely

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loved. But they weren't just traffic cops. No.

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They were his personal enforcers in the countryside.

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They suppressed peasant uprisings. If a village

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complained about land theft, the Rurales would

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ride in. They intimidated political rivals. It

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was a police state disguised as law and order.

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He also had this motto, little of politics and

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plenty of administration. Which is a very polite

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way of saying democracy is messy and inefficient,

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so let's just have a dictatorship. He viewed

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politics, debate, elections, opposition as an

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obstacle to progress. He wanted scientific administration.

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And that leads us to the scientificos, the scientists.

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Yes. This was a group of advisors led by his

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finance minister, Jose Yves Lementour, who were

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essentially coptocrats. They were positivists.

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They believed that the country should be run

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like a business or a machine based on data and

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science. Their motto was order and progress.

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Exactly. And that sounds good on paper. Who doesn't

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want progress? But the order part meant suppressing

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dissent. And the progress part was very, very

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top down. And you have to say, under their guidance,

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the Mexican economy did explode. The numbers

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are staggering for that time. The source calls

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it the golden age of Mexican economics. The peso

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was strong. I think it was $3 .2 per peso. That

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is wild to think about now. It is. And the modernization

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was rapid. They built thousands upon thousands

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of miles of railways. Before Diaz, moving goods

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across Mexico was a nightmare of bandits and

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bad roads. He connected the country with steel.

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Telegraph lines connected the cities. Mining

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boomed. The notes mention Santa Rosalia as a

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specific example. What happened there? Yes, that's

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a perfect case study. It was a copper mining

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town in Baja, California. A French mining company

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came in. Diaz gave them a 70 -year tax waiver.

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Seventy years. Basically, come here, take the

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copper, don't pay taxes, just build the town.

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And they did. It became a prosperous zone with

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French architecture in the middle of the desert.

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But this growth had a specific flavor, didn't

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it? It wasn't homegrown industry for the most

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part. It was foreign. It was almost entirely

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foreign capital. Diaz and his advisors practiced

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what they called defensive modernization. Diaz

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is famous for the quote. Poor Mexico, so far

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from God, so close to the United States. I've

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heard that one. It's iconic. He knew he couldn't

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stop American influence. The U .S. was the giant

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next door, so he tried to harness it. He encouraged

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a peaceful invasion of U .S. capital. What was

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the logic there? He thought if American businesses

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were heavily invested in Mexico, if they owned

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the mines and the railroads, the U .S. government

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wouldn't invade militarily because they wouldn't

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want to damage their own assets. That is a 4D

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chess move. Using their greed to protect your

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sovereignty. It was brilliant in a way. But it

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meant that by 1910, foreigners owned a huge percentage

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of Mexico's wealth. American and British companies

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owned the railroads, the oil, the mines. So on

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the surface, Mexico is booming. There are trains,

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there are factories, the credit rating is good.

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If you were a foreign investor reading the Wall

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Street Journal in 1900, you loved Porfirio Diaz.

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You saw him as a miracle worker. But we have

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to look at the cost. Because you don't stay in

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power for 30 years with a bludgeon unless there

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are people you need to hit. This is the dark

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side of the porfiriato, and it's why the revolution

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happened. The stability came at a massive price

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for the average Mexican. Let's talk about the

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land, because this seems to be the biggest grievance,

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the one that really lit the fuse. It was essentially

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a massive land grab. The government wanted to

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modernize agriculture. They thought communal

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farming, which indigenous villages had done for

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centuries, was inefficient. So they hired survey

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companies to measure public lands. And how did

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they pay these surveyors? This is the scam. They

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allowed the companies to keep one -third of the

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land they surveyed. One -third. That creates

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a massive incentive to find as much public land

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as possible. A perverse incentive, exactly. And

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they often sold the rest to foreign investors

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or cronies of the regime. But the real tragedy

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was how they defined public land. Many indigenous

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communities and small farmers had lived on their

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land for generations. But they didn't have a

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deed. They didn't have a piece of paper from

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a courthouse. Because they never needed one before.

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It was just understood. Right. So the surveyors

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would come in and say, you have no title. This

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is public land. Now it belongs to us. That is

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dispossession on an industrial scale. The source

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mentions the Totonac people in Papantla. They

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lost their vanilla -growing lands, which led

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to revolts. By 1900, over 90 % of communal land

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in the central plateau had been sold off. Think

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about that number. 90%. That is a complete dismantling

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of a way of life. It forced about 9 .5 million

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peasants into service for big landowners. They

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went from being independent farmers to being

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debt peons on haciendas. They were essentially

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serfs in their own country. And the inequality

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in the cities wasn't much better. The source

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mentions a really depressing statistic about

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alcohol. Yes. In Mexico City, the number of bars

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went from 51 to 1 ,400 during his rule. Alcoholism

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rose drastically. It was a symptom of the social

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dislocation. People were moving to the city looking

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for work, ending up in slums, and drinking to

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numb the misery. A while, a tiny elite circle

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was living in European -style luxury. Literally

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building French mansions in Mexico City, while

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the vast majority were sinking deeper into poverty.

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There's also the issue of the church. Diaz was

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a liberal, and liberals were historically anti

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-clerical. They wanted to separate church and

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state. But Diaz seems to have changed his tune.

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It was, again, pragmatism. The reform laws were

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still on the books. Diaz didn't repeal them.

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He just stopped enforcing them. He allowed the

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church to regain its economic power and its role

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in education because he needed the church as

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a stabilizing force. He knew the church could

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help keep the peasants calm. The source gives

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a personal reason for this, too. Something that

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happened to his brother, Felix. That is a gruesome

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story, but it explains a lot. Felix Diaz was

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governor of Oaxaca and a hardline anti -clerical

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liberal. He was aggressive. He once dragged a

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saint statue through the streets to mock the

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locals' faith. That is asking for trouble. The

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villagers eventually caught him and killed him

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for it. And the source implies they did worse

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to his body than he did to the statue. Porfirio

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saw that. He understood that pushing the church

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too hard, especially in rural Mexico, was political

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suicide. So he made peace. He even married his

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second wife, Carmen, who was very pious, to signal

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that truce. It was a way of saying the war with

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the church is over. So we have a dictator who

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has stabilized the economy, made peace with the

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church, and crushed the opposition. It feels

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like he could have gone on forever. The system

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was locked down. It certainly seemed that way.

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But then in 1908, he gives an interview that

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changes everything. The Creelman interview. James

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Creelman was an American journalist for Pearson's

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magazine. Diaz is getting old now. He's nearing

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80. And perhaps feeling secure or perhaps just

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wanting to look like an enlightened statesman

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to the Western world, he told Creelman that Mexico

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was ready for democracy. And he said he wouldn't

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run again, right? That was the bombshell. He

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said he would welcome an opposition party. He

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said he would step down in 1910. Why? on earth

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would he say that? Did he actually mean it? Most

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historians think he was fishing for a compliment.

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He expected the country to gasp and say, no,

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no, Don Porfirio, we need you. You can't leave

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us. He wanted a mandate, but he miscalculated

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badly. People took him literally. It broke the

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spell. Suddenly, opposition parties started organizing

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openly. They said, the president said we can

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run, so we're running. One of them was led by

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Francisco Esasco Madero. A wealthy landowner

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from the north, not exactly a peasant revolutionary.

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No, not at all. He was a vegetarian, a spiritualist,

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a very eccentric rich guy. But he wrote a book

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called The Presidential Succession of 1910, and

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it became a bestseller. It tapped into a huge

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well of discontent. And this all coincides with

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the centennial in 1910. This was supposed to

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be Diaz's crowning moment. The 100th anniversary

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of Mexican independence, it was a massive party.

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The source describes the program covers. It showed

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Hidalgo, the father of the country, then Juarez,

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representing Lex or law, and finally Diaz, representing

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Pax or peace. He was literally painting himself

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into the pantheon of national heroes. Absolutely.

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But while they were drinking champagne in the

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Capitol... The country was fracturing. The 1910

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election comes around. Diaz, who sees Madero

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gaining all this support, changes his mind about

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retiring. Of course he does. He runs again, and

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Madero runs against him. And Diaz does what he

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always does, the bludgeon. He jails Madero. He

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rigs the election. He claims a near -unanimous

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victory. But the old trips didn't work this time.

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No. The country had changed. The spell was broken.

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They wouldn't accept it. Madero escapes jail,

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goes to the U .S., and issues the plan of San

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Luis Potosi. He calls for armed rebellion on

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November 20, 1910. And to everyone's surprise,

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the Porfirian Peace collapsed like a house of

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cards. It was shocking how quickly it fell apart.

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The Federal Army was old. The generals were ancient.

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Diaz hadn't updated the leadership because he

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feared rivals. He didn't want a young, charismatic

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general challenging him, so he kept the old guys

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in charge. And they were no match for the new

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threats. Not at all. When the rebellions broke

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out, Pancho Villa in the north, Zapata in the

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south, the army couldn't cope. They were slow,

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unmotivated, and completely overwhelmed. It happened

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so fast. The election was in 1910. By May 1911,

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just a few months later, Diaz is signing his

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resignation. The Treaty of Ciudad Juarez. He

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resigned on May 25th, 1911. It was the end of

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an era. He packed his bags, took a train to Veracruz,

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and boarded ship to Paris. And he never came

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back? No. He died in Paris in 1915. He's buried

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at Montparnasse Cemetery. And it is so telling

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that to this day there have been attempts to

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return his remains to Mexico, but they always

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fail. Why is that? Because he is still too controversial.

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The revolution that ousted him became the founding

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myth of modern Mexico. To bring him back would

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be to honor the villain of that story. And yet

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he built the country. He built the infrastructure

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that the revolution was hot on. Exactly. It really

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is a full circle journey. He starts as the young

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soldier fighting for the republic, fighting against

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a French emperor. He ends up as an old man living

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in France, looking very much like an emperor

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himself, ousted by a revolution calling for effective

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suffrage, no re -election, the very words he

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used to take power. It is the tragedy of holding

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on too long. He built the railroads. He built

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the economy. He created the modern state. But

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he forgot the human element. He forgot that bread

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isn't enough if you have no voice and the bludgeon

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only works until people aren't afraid of it anymore.

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And he forgot that you cannot rule a country

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as diverse and complex as Mexico with just a

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spreadsheet and a police force. The pressure

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just builds and builds until it has to be released.

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So wrapping this up, what does this all mean

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for us today? Why should you, listening right

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now, care about a Mexican president from over

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100 years ago? I think it's a profound lesson

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about the cost of stability. We often crave order.

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We want the trains to run on time. We get frustrated

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with political gridlock. Diaz did that. He fixed

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the gridlock. But he did it by hollowing out

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the institutions that allow a society to correct

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itself. You remove the safety bells. Precisely.

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When you remove politics, when you remove the

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ability to change course peacefully, you ensure

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that the only way to change is through explosion.

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The Mexican Revolution was that explosion. Ten

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years of brutal civil war. It's a powerful reminder

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that democracy might be messy, but the alternative

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is usually brittle. It looks strong, but it breaks

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instead of bending. Well put. The Porfiriato

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was a gilded cage. It was beautiful on the outside,

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but it was still a cage. I want to leave the

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listeners with one last image, a final thought.

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Go online and look up a photo of young General

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Diaz from the 1860s. He's unpolished, staring

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down the camera, the scrappy fighter ready to

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take on the French. Then look at the official

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photo of him in 1910, covered in gold braid with

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that big white mustache, surrounded by elites,

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looking completely detached from the dusty reality

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of the country he ruled. The whole story is right

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there in those two faces. Absolutely. The transformation

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from the hero of the republic to the villain

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of the revolution. It's all there. Thanks for

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diving in with us. We'll see you next time.
