Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Our mission here
is always the same. We take the sources, the
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We give you the essential knowledge and the unexpected
insights fast. And today we are diving into a
figure who is, I mean, she's maybe one of the
most intellectually uncompromising and tragically
dramatic philosophers of the entire 20th century,
Simone Weil. Weil lived such a short, intense
life from 1909 to 1943, and she represents this
extraordinary, almost impossible mix of identities.
It really is an impossible confluence. She was
a radical political activist, a profound Christian
mystic, and a truly foundational ethical thinker.
Her life is just this study in paradox. A paradox
that few people could survive. And in fact, she
didn't. It's immediately captivating. I mean,
how can one person be known as the Red Virgin
for her relentless political radicalism, but
at the same time refuse to join the Communist
Party? Right. Or be this brilliant philosopher
who literally walks away from academia to work
in car factories. She deliberately sought out
the deepest levels of suffering. And then maybe
the most famous paradox of all, she becomes this
mystic who has these incredibly powerful repeated
revelations of Christ, but ultimately and definitively
refuses Catholic baptism right up until the day
she died. And that refusal to compromise, it
just... It extended into her final moments. Her
commitment to justice and solidarity was so extreme,
it demanded an actual physical price. You're
talking about her time in London. Exactly. She
was working for the Free French during the war,
totally safe from the occupation. But she restricted
her food intake to what she believed her compatriots
in Nazi -occupied France were eating. And she
was already frail. She'd been diagnosed with
tuberculosis. Already frail. So this act of self
-imposed solidarity. It led directly to her death
by heart failure. Yeah. She's just 34 years old.
That is the level of moral force we are dealing
with here. And it just immediately begs the question,
how did this mind work? So what's our mission
today? especially given that her major works,
things like The Need for Roots, Gravity, and
Grace, they were all published posthumously.
They were essentially stitched together from
her essays, letters, and these chaotic notebooks.
Our mission is to trace the shape of her intellectual
and physical pilgrimage. We have to go beyond
the biography and really unpack the architecture
of her thought. Okay, so where do we start? We'll
follow her path. From this precocious radical
student to a deeply disillusioned revolutionary,
and then finally to the pioneering ethical thinker
whose ideas still shape modern philosophy, will
be laser -focused on three of her core revolutionary
concepts, affliction, attention, and obligation,
which, you know, they really serve as the engines
for her entire difficult worldview. Okay, let's
unpack this history. Simone Weil was born in
Paris, 1909. She grew up in a secure, affluent,
Alsatian Jewish family, though they were completely
secular, totally agnostic. Right, and we have
to start with that environment, because it was
just defined by sheer intellectual intensity.
Her older brother, Andre, became one of the most
renowned mathematicians of the 20th century.
The bar was set pretty high, then. Impossibly
high. The source material really highlights this
almost... competitive intellectual drive she
had from the very earliest age. I mean, to give
you a taste of it. Violin and her brother Andre
taught themselves ancient Greek when they were
12. 12. Not to pass a test, but so they could
speak to each other privately, you know, without
their parents or tutors understanding them. That's
a wild detail. It shows this early desire for
direct, unmediated knowledge. It does. And that
same hunger for direct truth is what later drove
her to learn Sanskrit, just so she could read
the Bhagavad Gita in the original text. So this
intellectual power was there from the start,
but it seems like it was immediately channeled
into this powerful, almost painful sense of altruism.
Oh, absolutely. We see these signs of an exceptionally
strong moral sentiment from childhood. It might
have been influenced by the distress she felt
when her father, who was a doctor, left for the
front lines in World War I. At age six, she reportedly
sent her own share of sugar and chocolate to
the soldiers. She just refused to consume comforts
while others were suffering. That act of solidarity,
of identifying with the suffering, it came incredibly
early for her. It did. And by age 10, she was
already declaring herself a Bolshevik and was
encouraging workers at a family resort to unionize
after she found out about their meager wages.
So this tendency toward total... uncompromising
commitment was already in full bloom. Completely.
Scholars call it her lifelong vocation. It was
also noted that she was highly sensitive, almost
socially isolated. She actively rejected what
she saw as feminine graces, you know, wearing
men's clothing, avoiding makeup. She seemed to
believe she needed to sacrifice any chance at
a conventional life to fully pursue her calling.
She certainly didn't blend in during her student
years, studying under the philosopher Emile Chartier,
known as Alain. No, her classmates were quick
to label her. They kind of struggled to categorize
her because she was so unusual. Her radical politics,
she was constantly organizing against the military
draft, that earned her the nickname the Red Virgin.
And her mentor, Elaine, he called her the Martian.
The Martian, yeah, suggesting she wasn't quite
of this world. But I think the most insightful
nickname was the one from her classmates, the
categorical imperative in skirts. That's perfect.
It just captures her strict, almost mechanical
devotion to moral law. It really does. And this
devotion was noticed by the authorities, too.
I think she was even suspended from teaching
later on for her defiance. For her? Her clothing?
For indifference to appropriate clothing, yes,
and for ignoring a rule that banned women from
smoking with male students. When she started
teaching at Lacroix, she immediately turned her
academic post into a political base. She was
engaging in local activism, supporting underpaid,
striking workers, joining their marches. She
even held classes outdoors, right? Rejecting
the formal classroom. Yes, and fostering this
family atmosphere among her students. She was
also actively teaching French literature to workers
in Saint -Étienne. She believed it was crucial
for the revolution to give workers ownership
over their own cultural heritage. It's not just
about marching. It's about empowerment through
knowledge. For her, it was essential. Culture
and history were not to be owned by the elite.
But this is also the period that gives us one
of the great, if brief, intellectual confrontations
of the century. Her meeting with Simone de Beauvoir.
Two absolute powerhouses. They finished first
and second in their final exams with Vial taking
the top spot. Right. And the confrontation itself
just gets right to the heart of Vial's anti -elitist
philosophy. So what happened? It was at the École
Normale Supérieure. De Beauvoir, who had become
this foundational existentialist philosopher,
was talking about life's meaning, suggesting
finding meaning was the ultimate goal, not just
happiness. And Wells' response? Was brutal in
its clarity. She asserted that one thing alone
mattered in the world today, the revolution that
would feed all people on Earth. And then she
dismissed de Beauvoir's abstraction with the
line, it's easy to see you've never gone hungry.
Wow. That's a profound dismissal. It grounds
her entire philosophy in material bodily suffering,
placing it way above abstract intellectual pursuits.
It speaks volumes. And it's why her early political
identity, you know, Marxist, pacifist, trade
unionist, was also destined to break down. She
started writing political tracks and marching
constantly. But her faith in the Marxist project.
just dissolved in her 20s. So where did that
disillusionment begin? She was so committed to
the working class. Well, the disillusionment
was based ironically on that very commitment.
First, she felt that Marxist theorists couldn't
truly understand oppression because in her view,
they themselves have never been cogs in the machinery
of factory. The analysis was too theoretical.
Too divorced from the gritty daily reality of
physical toil. The intellectuals analyzing the
machine had never been caught in the gears themselves.
And what was the second part of her critique?
The warning about a new form of tyranny. This
part is critical because it's almost prophetic.
She was one of the first thinkers to identify
a new form of oppression that Marx hadn't anticipated.
The rise of elite bureaucrats and managerial
classes. She argued that these bureaucrats, regardless
of the political system, capitalist or revolutionary,
could be just as exploitative. just as detached
and make life just as miserable for ordinary
people as the most rapacious capitalists. So
she saw that power itself was the corrupting
force, not just economic ownership. This analysis
even brought her face to face with Leon Trotsky,
didn't it? It did. In 1933, she actually arranged
for Trotsky to stay at her parents' apartment
while he was exiled and hiding from Stalin's
agents. That's incredible. And she reportedly
managed to hold her own intellectually against
the founder of the Red Army, challenging his
views on the Soviet state and the corruption.
of power her critique focused on how any form
of collective power even a revolutionary party
inevitably creates a hierarchy that oppresses
the individual and this pessimism about political
solutions it extended to the very concept of
revolution itself by the end she concluded that
revolution had become an empty word a concept
she said for which you kill for which you die
but which does not possess any content. She realized
it was a dead end. A dead end. Because the nature
of power always ensures that the revolution just
replaces one tyrant with another. And this intense
pessimism is what pushes her into the next, even
more radical, phase of her life. So if intellectual
critique and political activism weren't enough,
she needed truth based in something lived or
experienced. Yes. And that's what led her to
take that... radical, some might say insane,
step of abandoning her privileged teaching post
to enter the factory. It was a conscious, philosophical
experiment. In 1934, she took a year -long leave
to work incognito as a laborer in two major factories,
Alstom and Renault. She didn't do this for research.
She did it because she felt her intellectual
work was too elite, too detached. She needed
to know what it meant to be a worker, a cog in
the system. Exactly. And this experience, which
was physically and psychologically crushing,
it became the crucible for her most defining
concept, le malheur, or affliction. Okay, let's
spend some real time defining affliction, because
it's so much more than just suffering or pain.
When we talk about wheels affliction, what are
the key components that make it a suffering?
Right. Affliction is a state of total involuntary
dehumanization. It's multifaceted. First, you
have the physical torment. The exhaustion. The
hunger. Constant grinding pain. The body is just
reduced to a mechanism. Then second, there's
the psychological distress. The constant fear
of the foreman. The humiliation of being replaceable.
The complete loss of agency. And the third part
is the social degradation. The social degradation.
Being stripped of your identity, reduced to a
statistic, the piece of industrial brawn, and
you internalize the scorn of the world. She details
the sensory experience of the factory so vividly
in her notebooks. The forced repetition, the
constant noise, the pressure to maintain a speed
that was just beyond human capacity. She wrote
about the feeling of her soul being branded with
a mark akin to slavery. She was constantly being
berated, sometimes unjustly, and because she
was often clumsy, she struggled mightily with
the fast -paced, machine -like tasks. And she
was shocked that the workers couldn't even think
about rebellion. She realized the machine was
designed to exhaust their very capacity for coherent
thought. So affliction is destructive because
it annihilates the ego's ability to resist or
even to perceive justice? Precisely. Weill wrote
that thought flies from affliction as promptly
and irresistibly as an animal flees from death.
It strips away all human capacity, isolates the
individual, and imposes this crushing sense of
self -loathing even on the innocent sufferer.
It's the involuntary or complete annihilation
of the self. It compels the constant asking of
why, a question for which the material world
offers no reply. And yet after experiencing this
involuntary destruction, she then volunteers
to fight in the Spanish Civil War in 1936. She
joins the Republican faction despite being a
lifelong pacifist. How do you square that contradiction?
It just highlights the primacy of action in her
ethics. She went because she believed the rise
of fascism demanded a response, even one that
violated her deeply held belief in nonviolence.
She traveled to Spain seeking out the anarchist
Drudy column. Which was known for being particularly
radical and high risk. Exactly. But she didn't
exactly thrive in the field. No, the anecdotes
are. Well, they're quite humbling. They are.
Weil was extremely nearsighted, notoriously clumsy.
Her comrades often had to physically prevent
her from joining missions because she was such
a liability. There's the story about the machine
gun. The famous story, yeah. She tried to operate
the group's heavy machine gun during an air raid,
and her comrades had to stop her, gently insisting
that someone less prone to accidents should handle
it. Her participation was limited to just a few
weeks before she accidentally stepped into a
pot of boiling oil over a cooking fire. Ow. Burned
herself badly, which forced her to leave Spain
and recuperate in Assisi. But the physical accident
was minor compared to the profound moral crisis
the war ignited in her. That's the lasting takeaway.
While in Spain, she witnessed the brutal excesses
of the Republican side, including the execution
of a 15 -year -old Falangist prisoner. And that
horrified her. It led to this terrible self -realization.
She wrote, I felt the possibility of doing the
same, and it's precisely because I felt I had
that potential that I was horrified. So the war
taught her that the intoxicating power of force
corrupted everyone, victors and victims alike.
Exactly. And this is the genesis of her powerful
1939 essay, The Iliad, or the poem of force.
She defined force as the impersonal X, which
turns anyone subjected to it into a thing. The
real hero of the Iliad, she argued, isn't Achilles
or Hector. It's force itself. It's an engine
that just blinds the human spirit and sweeps
away moral reasoning, damaging all who wield
it and all who suffer under it. It's a devastating
meditation on the mechanical nature of power.
So factory work gave her the concept of affliction,
the destructive force on the individual soul.
And war gave her force, the political power that
reduces people to objects. With this, she renounces
political pacifism entirely. She does. After
the rise of Nazi Germany, she stated, nonviolence
is good only if it's effective. She fled Paris
to Marseille, where she joined the French resistance,
delivering the underground paper, the Cahiers
du Timouinage. And even facing threats, she maintained
that radical posture. Oh, yeah. When police threatened
to jail her with the whores if she didn't cooperate,
she reportedly welcomed the suggestion. She just
refused to compromise her identity with the marginalized.
She eventually made her way to London to work
for the free French government in exile in 1942.
And this is the critical period where she writes
The Need for Roots. Right. And this London period
is just defined by intense frustration. She felt
she was too safe to physically distance from
the suffering in occupied France. Her job was
to analyze resistance reports, but she felt she
wasn't doing enough. So she kept sending these
proposals to Charles de Gaulle. Proposal after
proposal, some of them truly extreme. Asking
to be sent back as a frontline nurse or a covert
agent. She wanted to physically share the fate
of her countrymen. And de Gaulle's legendary
response suggests he struggled with her moral
intensity. He was known to have been deeply influenced
by her ideas, particularly in the need for roots,
but he reportedly considered her insane because
of the extremity of her commitment. He admired
the moral force, but her suggestions were wholly
impractical for a military leader. But her intense
focus on France's moral and spiritual regeneration
after the war is what led her to write so furiously
during this time, producing her great political
essays. She really used her own sense of unrootedness
in London to imagine what France truly needed
to be whole again. This brings us to the profound
spiritual pivot in her life, which runs parallel
to her political development. Raised completely
secular, agnostic Jewish family, yet she said
she always had a Christian outlook. So how does
this intellectual, political radical become a
mystic? Her spiritual transformation was driven
by sensory and physical encounters, not just
by reading theology. She called these the events
that delivered me into Christ's hands as his
captive. Tell us about the three pivotal experiences.
The first one was in 1935, during a holiday in
Portugal. She was watching a procession of villagers
singing hymns, and the sheer unadulterated beauty
and devotion just moved her physically. And she
had a sudden conviction. An overwhelming conviction
that Christianity is preeminently the religion
of slaves, that slaves cannot help belonging
to it, and she, among others, noticed that connection.
She didn't find Christ in a church. She found
him among the marginalized. In Religion of the
Oppressed, the second experience links her to
St. Francis of Assisi. Yes. In 1937, while recuperating
from her injury in Spain, she visited Assisi.
In the Basilica of Santa Maria degli Angeli,
where St. Francis himself had prayed, she found
this tiny Romanesque chapel, the little portion.
And in that symbol space. She experienced a religious
ecstasy and prayed for the first time in her
life. It was this profound, unexpected moment
of grace breaking through all the political and
physical despair. And the most famous revelation
that involves reciting poetry. In 1938, yeah.
While reciting George Herbert's powerful poem,
Love the Third. She had a revelation so intense
that she wrote that Christ himself came down
and took possession of me. From that point on,
her writing, though still political, became explicitly
mystical. But here is the massive irreducible
paradox. Despite this intense conversion, she
categorically refused to be baptized. Why? This
is the critical line she would not cross. She
said she preferred to remain outside the church
due to the love of those things that are outside
Christianity. So it wasn't a rejection of Christ?
Not at all. It was a condemnation of the church
as an institution. Its history of power, its
dogma. What specifically about the institution
repelled her so much? She was vehemently against
the concept of anathema set, the idea of drawing
hard lines between who is saved and who is not,
of separating from unbelievers. And you felt
it was incompatible with humility. Absolutely.
She believed true humility was incompatible with
belonging to any group chosen by God, whether
that's a nation or a church. For Weil, belonging
to a privileged group, spiritual or political,
always leads to pride and the denial of the reality
of those outside it. That's a powerful critique.
She saw belonging itself as a spiritual impurity.
She did. She criticized the church's entanglement
with social convention and the interests of exploiters.
She sought authentic Christian inspiration only
in the mystics, who were often themselves condemned
or marginalized by the church hierarchy. And
her spiritual quest was exceptionally broad,
too. She wasn't just attracted to Christian mysticism.
Her curiosity was vast and nonsectarian. She
found genuine divine revelation in the Greek
and Egyptian mysteries, in Hinduism, especially
the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita and Mahayana
Buddhism. She explicitly said those traditions
delivered her to Christ just as much as Christian
ones. She did. She wrote, Greece, Egypt, ancient
India. These things have done as much as the
visibly Christian ones to deliver me to Christ's
hands as captive. I think I might even say more.
So she finds equal spiritual truth in all these
major traditions, but she rejects the idea of
synthesizing them into one easy, unified spirituality.
That's the key philosophical maneuver. She opposed
synthesis. She insisted a synthesis of religion
implies a lower quality of attention. For Weill,
purity comes from radical, intense focus. So
each religion is alone true. Each religion is
alone true. That is to say that at the moment
we are thinking of it, we must bring as much
attention to bear on it as if there were nothing
else. We have to give each tradition its complete,
uncompromised attention. This intense focus leads
us into her complex cosmology, particularly the
concept of divine absence. If God is perfect
and creation contains evil, how does creation
exist? Her cosmology is a theodicy. An explanation
for evil. She believed God created the world
not by adding something, but by an act of self
-delimitation, a withdrawal, which she termed
kenosis. So creation exists precisely where God
is not present in his perfect fullness. Exactly.
Therefore, creation necessarily contains imperfection
and evil. You mentioned this mirrors a concept
in Jewish thought. For listeners who might not
be familiar, what's the analogy here? It's strikingly
similar to the concept of simsum in Jewish Kabbalah.
Simsum is the idea that for the finite world
to exist, the infinite God had to contract or
withdraw his infinite light, creating an empty
space where existence could happen. So for Ryle,
this withdrawal allows for necessity and freedom,
and it explains why the world is inherently afflicted.
Right. Evil isn't the result of some ancient
mistake or original sin. It's a necessary structural
component of existence, a consequence of God
withdrawing to make space for freedom and matter.
And paradoxically, evil and affliction then serve
a role. They serve the role of driving humans
back toward God by revealing the depth of human
misery that was already present. We have to return
to the ultimate tragic expression of her ethical
life. Her death. Was this final act of self -imposed
starvation a moral choice or a physical failure?
It remains intensely debated. She died in August
1943 from cardiac failure at 34. The cause was
her refusing special treatment and severely restricting
his food intake in solidarity with occupied France.
And the coroner's verdict at the time was? It
was that she did kill and slay herself by refusing
to eat whilst the balance of her mind was disturbed.
That suggests suicide or at least self -inflicted
death while mentally unstable. Yes. But her first
significant biographer, Simone Petremont, strongly
disputed this. She pointed to letters written
shortly before her death where Weil requested
and ate a little food. So Petremont's argument
is that it wasn't a conscious act of suicide.
She suggests that Weil's already frail, tuberculous
body had just deteriorated to the point where
it could no longer process food. So her inability
to eat was a physical failure caused by her underlying
poor health. So the question remains, was she
trying to voluntarily starve herself? Or did
her extreme commitment simply push her frail
body past the point of no return? Richard Rees,
her first English biographer, offered the most
moving synthesis. He just said she died of love.
He pointed to her overwhelming compassion and
her desire to imitate Christ's suffering. So
regardless of the specifics, her final act just
underscores that seamless link between her mystical
faith and her political commitment to solidarity.
She died living out the moral imperative she
had set for herself. Let's shift our focus now
to the core of her intellectual legacy, which
crystallizes these experiences. We have the crushing
force of affliction from the factory. So what's
the voluntary moral response she proposes? We
start with the ethical foundation, attention.
Attention is the absolute foundation of her ethical
life. She famously called it the very substance
of prayer. And it's not passive, like daydreaming.
It is an active, radical, conscious act of suspending
the self, of emptying one's thought process she
called seafitter. So we empty our thought. Why?
What fills that void? The void is filled by the
reality of the other person or God in their full
truth. She says that the capacity to give attention
to a sufferer is almost a miracle. It is a miracle.
And it requires letting go of the ego's demands.
Completely, allowing the other person to exist
just as he is. How does this attention contrast
with something like pity or charity? She provides
a profound contrast. Pity, in her view, is often
selfish. We use pity to alleviate our own discomfort
at seeing suffering, or worse, to enjoy the comfortable
distance between ourselves and the afflicted
person. Pity is self -centered. Right. True attention,
however, is selfless. It's a full recognition
that the sufferer is a real being, not a specimen.
And it requires a form of mental effort that's
like spiritual heavy lifting. And attention is
the necessary precursor to justice. In fact,
for a while, attention is justice. Justice consists
of seeing that no harm comes to those whom we
have noticed as real beings. To harm someone
is to take something from them. to expand your
own sense of self by creating an emptiness in
the other. Attention reverses that. It's the
rarest and purest form of generosity. Because
it gives the other person space in reality without
seeking to appropriate or consume them. This
philosophy leads her to a concept she borrowed
from Plato to describe how separation and connection
work simultaneously. Metaxu. Metaxu. It literally
means between or intermediate. It's a concept
that the very things that seem to separate us
from the divine, our bodies, the material world,
are paradoxically the only things that allow
us to communicate with it. They are both a separation
and a link. Yes. She gives this famous prisoner
metaphor. She says, two prisoners who sells a
join. communicate with each other by knocking
on the wall the wall is the thing which separates
them but it is also their means of communication
it's the same with us and god every separation
is a link our physical body the laws of the material
world everything we experience as limiting gravity
is actually the blind man's stick allowing us
to feel out the reality beyond ourselves so the
distance isn't a failure it's a necessary condition
of communication this leads us to the title of
her famous notebooks gravity and grace These
are the two fundamental forces governing existence.
Gravity is the force of the natural world. Physical
necessity, material constraints, social structures,
and the ego's pull towards self -preservation.
It's the law that constantly drags us down. And
grace is the counterbalance. Grace is the counterbalance,
motivated by the goodness of God. But the crucial
part is how grace works. It works through decreation.
Decreation. That sounds like the opposite of
God's initial creative act. If creation was God
making space by withdrawing, what is decreation?
Decreation. Decreation is the voluntary destruction
of the self or the ego. If affliction is the
involuntary destruction imposed by external force,
decreation is the voluntary dismantling of the
I by choice. And she calls this passive activity.
Or, borrowing from Bhagavad Gita, non -active
action. So why must the self be destroyed? Because
the self is driven by illusions. It's motivated
by fantasy imagined debts others owe us, rewards
we fantasize about. These imaginary constructs
are dangerous because, unlike real rewards, they
are limitless. They cloud our perception of reality.
So the ego is bound by the laws of gravity. Constantly
seeking to expand and appropriate. The work of
grace is to strip away these illusions and destroy
the ego so the soul can participate in the divine.
When we consent to the necessities of the world,
when the self is dismantled, we make space for
reality and truth. So the fundamental human choice
is, will you be involuntarily crushed by affliction
and gravity, or will you choose the voluntary
annihilation of the ego, decreation, to become
fully human? Precisely. It's the ethical demand
she places on every individual. And this ethical
framework then becomes the blueprint for her
political masterpiece, The Need for Roots, where
she fundamentally critiques the focus on rights.
She advocates for a nation built on obligations
and needs, not rights. Why did she find a system
built on rights so insufficient? For a while,
rights are conditional and inherently competitive.
She flips the traditional moral perspective completely.
Yes. She establishes a hierarchy. A man, considered
in isolation, only has duties. Other men, seen
from his point of view, only have rights. So
in isolation, you have duties, but no rights,
whatever. Exactly. And she argues that obligations
alone are eternal. unconditional, independent
of circumstance. The duty to the human being
as such, that alone is eternal. Rights are always
conditional. They only exist in relation to a
corresponding obligation. So a culture centered
on rights makes us turn away from suffering.
Because we lack the moral strength to confront
its extreme expressions, like affliction. Obligations,
however, demand continuous moral output, whether
or not the conditions are favorable. This focus
on obligation connects directly to her concept
of rootedness, l 'enseignement, which she sees
as an essential spiritual and political need.
Rootedness is the spiritual need for real, active,
and natural participation in a community. This
community must preserve the treasures of the
past, you know, tradition and culture, but also
the aspirations of the future. So roots provide
nourishment from place, birth, and occupation.
Right. And the counterforce to this is uprootedness.
Dara Seaman. which she saw as the great spiritual
threat to the soul caused by conquest, colonialism,
and economic domination. She argues that the
greatest agent of uprootedness is money. Money,
she said, destroys human roots wherever it is
able to penetrate. Why? Because the effort, the
acquisition of money demands of the mind is so
much less than the effort demanded by other more
spiritual motives like love or beauty or skill.
So she saw industrial workers as geographically
stationary but morally uprooted. How did she
propose to fix this? Through her vision of the
spiritual nature of work. She believed work had
to be reconfigured as a moral and metaphysical
act. She advocated for abolishing large -scale
factories in favor of smaller, decentralized
workshops where machinery would be owned by individuals
or cooperatives. Working and thinking must not
be separated. They can't be. The physical labor
must engage the intellect and spirit alongside
the body. She argues that if people can have
both spiritual and scientific ideas converging
in the act of work, even the fatigue and toil
can be transformed. So the pain can become something
else. It can be converted into the pain that
makes the beauty of the world penetrates right
into the core of the human body. She claimed
that consenting to work is second only to consenting
to death. Both are essential, difficult acts
of submission that lead to spiritual growth.
Let's bring this full circle back to the divine
through her concept of beauty. For Whale, beauty
is the highest link between matter and spirit.
It links justice, attention, and God. She provides
one of the most powerful definitions of love
I've ever read. The love of the beauty of the
world is the only pure love. It is the love that
enables us to look at things without trying to
appropriate them. Right there. That's the key.
Non -appropriation. The beautiful is that which
we desire without wishing to eat it, without
wishing to possess it, consume it. or use it
for our ego's benefit. It's the full affirmation
of a thing's existence. And theologically, she
saw beauty as the experiential proof that the
incarnation is possible. She called it Christ's
tender smile coming to us through matter. It
serves a soteriological function, a pathway to
salvation, because it captivates the flesh, bypassing
the self, and letting truth penetrate directly
to the soul. Wilde died largely unknown, a fringe
figure. But what happened in the decades immediately
after her death is extraordinary. Her posthumous
fame just exploded. It did. She rapidly became
one of the most widely influential figures on
religious and spiritual matters in the third
quarter of the 20th century. Her framework provided
a necessary corrective to post -war cynicism.
And her admirers were foundational intellectuals
and global leaders. Oh, yeah. Albert Camus called
her the only great spirit of our times. Pope
Paul VI cited her as one of his three greatest
influences. Alongside Pascal and Bernanos. Right.
Key S. Eliot, Iris Murdoch, the Trappist monk
Thomas Merton, all were deeply affected by her.
Biographer Robert Coles called her a giant of
reflection. But this radical figure, who saw
the world so clearly divided, she certainly garnered
sharp criticism too, even from her admirers.
Her judgments were sometimes considered intemperate.
Even T .S. Eliot noted her tendency to divide
the world into stark categories of good and evil.
For example, she was a fierce, relentless critic
of the Roman Empire. She refused to see any value
whatsoever in figures like Virgil or Marcus Aurelius.
You just saw them purely through the lens of
institutionalized oppression. And the criticism
regarding her own background is particularly
complex and sensitive. Her critique of Judaism.
It is. She was an uncompromising critic of what
she perceived as the excessive influence of the
Old Testament on Western civilization, sometimes
using harsh language. Right. This led some Jewish
writers, including Susan Sontag, to accuse her
of anti -Semitism. But others, including her
own family. Disagree. Right. They argue she was
deeply influenced by Jewish ethical precepts
and was critiquing what she saw as the pride
inherent in any group chosen by God, including
the church she refused to join. It's a nuanced
and difficult part of her legacy. That tension,
the prophet seen as a saint by some and as psychologically
unbalanced by others, ensured her legacy. She
wasn't just an academic. She was a moral genius
whose life demanded the world's attention. And
her relevance persists today across an astonishing
range of fields. from political philosophy and
ethics to ergonomics and classical studies. Her
ideas about rootedness and the dehumanization
of work feel more relevant than ever in our age
of the gig economy and digital uprootedness.
So how does this intense 1930s era ethical framework
connect to us today? Well, her critiques of uprootedness
and her demand for attention speak directly to
modern alienation, the gig economy, surveillance
capitalism. It often mirrors the factory experience
she described. Workers are geographically stationary
but fundamentally unrooted, reduced to data points.
And her solution, that true work must engage
the mind and spirit, challenges us to look beyond
just economic utility. It does. And we even see
her influence in contemporary art and music,
which is a testament to the enduring power of
her concepts. Right, like Kaija Sarayaho's opera
La Persona de Simon. and Chris Krause's film
Gravity and Grace. And surprisingly, her philosophy
is cited as a significant influence on the Spanish
musician Rosalia's album Lux. Specifically in
relation to her unique definition of love, that
concept that pure love requires consenting to
distance. Correct. Rosalia cited Vi's idea that
to love purely is to consent to distance. It
is to adore the distance between ourselves and
that which we love. This ties directly back to
Metaxu, that separation is a necessary link.
and the definition of beauty as non -appropriation.
To truly love something, you have to resist that
gravitational urge to consume it. So as we wrap
up this intense deep dive, let's quickly reiterate
those three foundational pillars of her revolutionary
thought. Okay. First, there's affliction, the
malheur. Not just suffering, but the torment
that isolates, degrades, and involuntarily destroys
the soul's capacity to say, I, or seek justice.
Second, attention. The miraculous, active, self
-emptying state of mind required to truly perceive
the reality of the sufferer, which is the foundational
act of justice. And third, obligation. The eternal,
unconditional duty we owe to the human being,
which must precede and ground any conditional
claims of rights. It is an overwhelming body
of work built on a foundation of total, unrelenting
commitment. So if we strip away the biography
and the theology, what is the core moral challenge
Simone Weil leaves for us, for you? I think the
tension she lived and wrote about between the
crushing mechanical necessity of the material
world, which he called gravity, and the possibility
of spiritual openness or grace, is ultimately
presented as a fundamental choice. We have to
decide whether to be involuntarily destroyed
by affliction or whether to embrace the voluntary
destruction of the ego decreation, to actively
empty ourselves and make space for the divine
and the reality of the other. That's the challenge.
That's the challenge. And so the question is
this. If, as we all claims, the love of the world's
beauty is the only pure love, because it requires
us not to appropriate, but merely to affirm existence.
How might applying this form of pure attention
change the way we approach politics, work, and
justice in our own uprooted world? That is the
demanding yet liberating question she leaves
for you to consider. Welcome to the debate. Today,
we are plunging into the remarkable, often contradictory,
and profoundly challenging life and philosophy
of Simone Weil. a figure whose brief 34 years
were characterized by this just fierce refusal
to live a comfortable life, choosing instead
to engage directly with the greatest suffering
of her time. She really is a philosopher of radical
tension. I mean, Veil's thought is defined by
its intensity, a constant, almost... painful
oscillation between extreme political commitment,
social critique, and then the deep, silent solitude
of mystical contemplation. She forces you to
confront the meaning of justice when you're looking
at the stark, impersonal realities of force and
necessity. And that tension, it brings us directly
to the core question we have to address today,
her critical concept of malheur or affliction.
So we're asking, is Whale's concept of affliction
fundamentally a political and social critique
of oppression that demands structural reform
right here on Earth? Or is it primarily a metaphysical
and spiritual necessity that serves as a pathway
to divine grace in the destruction of the self?
And misdistinction is just crucial because it
really determines the focus of her legacy. I'll
be arguing that while her commitment to the oppressed
was, well, absolute, Her ultimate framework,
particularly her definitions of evil and suffering,
is transcendent. Her activism serves a spiritual
logic aimed at union with the divine. And I'll
present the case that her most enduring and practical
contributions, her definitions of force, obligation,
the profound need for rootedness. are the direct
product of her material, social, and political
commitments, and that these demand structural
change to alleviate human suffering. So my perspective
is grounded in the material reality Whale dedicated
her life to analyzing and to sharing. Whale wasn't
content to merely observe suffering. She deliberately
immersed herself in the most brutal conditions.
Her year working as a common laborer in the factories
of Alstom and Renault in 1934 was the absolute
crucible for her mature philosophy. This experience,
which physically and spiritually just broke her,
taught her that affliction, malheur, it isn't
just pain or misfortune. It's a specific social
state imposed by power. It is the state where
the human soul is effectively destroyed by the
repetitive, machine -like grind of industrial
labor. She saw that workers were reduced to this
almost animalistic state where, you know, real
thought or rebellion became utterly impossible.
This dehumanization, this transformation into
an automaton, is a political reality imposed
by the structure of la puissance, or force. And
this social critique is powerfully detailed in
her earlier essay, The Iliad or the Poem of Force,
where she gives her famous definition of force
as that X which turns anyone subject to it into
a thing. This force is embodied by the factory
owner, the machine, the crushing bureaucratic
state. Her response was always practical. She
wrote Oppression and Liberty to analyze the mechanics
of power and later advocated for a free France
rebuilt not on vague rights, which she believed
were abstract and empty, but on concrete obligations.
And crucially, she proposed radical structural
solutions like abolishing large centralized factories
in favor of decentralized workshops where workers
could own their own machinery. and thereby mitigate
that profound sense of déracinement, the uprootedness
and alienation of modern society. For her, the
crisis is social, and therefore the primary solution
has to be social. I see why you emphasize her
political action. It is certainly the most visible
and dramatic element of her biography, but I
would frame her social critique as a manifestation
of a deeper, pre -existing metaphysical conviction.
I mean, Whale was struggling to answer the timeless
theological problem, why does evil exist in a
world created by a good God? For Whale, affliction
is the central cornerstone of her theodicy, tied
directly to the Platonic and Christian concept
of absence. God, in a profound act of self -delimitation
or kenosis and emptying out, withdrew some measure
of divine fullness to make space for creation.
This means that existence itself is structured
on a necessary flaw, on the impersonal mechanisms
of gravity and necessity. So evil in this view,
it isn't a failure of the world. It's the necessary
condition of a created world separate from God.
She crystallized this view when she stated, quite
radically, that evil is the form which God's
mercy takes in this world. The function of affliction,
therefore, is primarily spiritual. Nothing but
extreme suffering can successfully strip away
the illusions of the self, the ego, the I, which
Whale saw as the ultimate idol separating us
from God. And when this self -destruction is
accepted, embraced, she calls it decreation.
Decreation is the voluntary emptying of the self,
and it's necessary to receive the divine and
personal light. Her profound religious encounters
in Assisi During the recitation of George Herbert's
poem Love Three, these were revelations that
confirmed suffering's primary role is to drive
humans toward this act of decreation. The two
great idols she identifies are the self and the
social, which suggests the primary struggle is
always internal, focused on purifying one's own
will and attention, transcending mere political
reform. Okay, but if affliction were solely a
metaphysical necessity, Why did Vale dedicate
her final years, even while she was ill, to constructing
the need for roots? I mean, this work is not
a theological treatise. It's an intensely detailed,
highly prescriptive political and economic blueprint.
And that, to me, proves that she viewed material
conditions as the barrier that must be overcome
before any spiritual progress can be genuinely
accessible to the suffering. Look at the specifics.
She insists on limiting working hours, establishing
cooperatives, combining... manual labor with
intellectual education. Why? Because the uprooted
worker, the one suffering from derisionment,
simply cannot achieve genuine attention or spiritual
insight. She argues for the spiritual nature
of work, but she insists that this spirituality
is impossible under the external pressures of
factory force. The political solution is structural.
It has to transform the environment to allow
workers to feel at home and thus capable of the
spiritual act of consent. I grant you that the
proposals in The Need for Roots are intensely
practical, but I'm not convinced that practicality
dictates the primacy of the solution. Whale's
proposals are simply the creation of the least
harmful environment in which the necessary spiritual
work can then occur. We are arguing about priority
here. For Whale, the core act is consent to necessity.
She stated that consent to work, like consent
to death, is an act of submission to the impersonal
divine structure of the world. Even in an ideal
workshop, the worker still must consent to the
mechanical reality of the task, submitting their
ego. She makes this distinction very clear. This
crucial type of consent is obtained metaphysically,
through decreation rather than through effort.
The decentralized workshop is the ideal setting
because it minimizes Poisson's human force, oppression.
But the true spiritual breakthrough is the internal
act of decreation. It's the voluntary destruction
of the self. If the political project were primary,
she would have called for revolution. Instead,
she called for spiritual renunciation within
modified structures. But that risks spiritualizing
away the suffering of the majority. I mean, if
the internal mechanism, decreation, is primary.
What's the moral imperative for the non -afflicted
to engage in structural reform? Weil's own experience
showed her that the social force, the malheur
imposed by the system, it often renders decreation
impossible because it destroys the capacity for
thought itself. A starving, physically exhausted
person cannot engage in sustained spiritual discipline.
Her detailed economic plans serve as proof that
she believed the human social environment has
to be structurally ready for grace to penetrate.
The removal of the external barrier of oppression
isn't secondary. It's the precondition for the
individual to freely submit to divine necessity,
rather than being forced into a servile submission
to human power. She wasn't seeking merely to
modify the environment. She was trying to structure
society according to a universal spiritual truth,
the need for human dignity, which required material
manifestation. Right, but the imperative isn't
just about achieving spiritual progress for the
individual. It's about justice. And for Well,
justice is inextricably tied to attention. The
non -afflicted must remove the external oppression,
the pleasance, because true attention mandates
it. If you believe, as I do, that well's ultimate
concern was the proper alignment of the soul
with the eternal, then a political action simply
flows from that alignment. And let's delve deeper
into this ethical core. Attention. Well equates
pure attention to the very substance of prayer.
It's a spiritual discipline, the suspension of
self -centered, interested thought that allows
the soul to receive the reality of the other
or to receive God. Justice is defined precisely
in this spiritual light. She says justice consists
in seeing that no harm comes to those whom we
have noticed as real beings. The act of noticing
the reality of the afflicted person requires
the ego to be quieted, which is a result of decreation.
This ethical mandate is rooted in the impersonal.
It's triggered by beauty, which captivates the
flesh and compels attention, bypassing the self.
So, if the substance of justice is attention,
and attention is prayer, the ultimate standard
of morality and the drive for ethical action
must be derived from the spiritual sphere, from
the achieved state of selflessness. I'm just
not convinced by that line of reasoning, because
it risks turning her fierce ethical critique
into a kind of passive contemplation. While attention
is absolutely central, its purpose for Whale
was always to anchor effective real -world morality,
not just to quiet the self. I mean, Whale spent
enormous energy critiquing abstract political
terms and the power of words, precisely because
they led to an action. Her focus on obligation
is the practical antidote to passive attention.
She views obligations as universal and non -negotiable.
She says a man left alone in the universe would
have no rights whatsoever, but he would have
obligations. Obligations are directed toward
the concrete needs of the human soul, rootedness,
security, truth, all of which require active
material protection. The moral strength to confront
affliction and prevent harm requires actively
intervening to prevent the source of that social
puissance. The obligation is a directive for
structural, physical change. It demands we move
beyond the spiritual gaze and into political
intervention. But the moral force of the obligation
is derived from a spiritual, a transcendent source.
I mean, why does she insist on obligation over
rights? Because rights are conditional. They're
social contracts. Obligation is absolute, derived
from the divine order of the world. She saw political
action as a necessary but a secondary expression
of this absolute standard. Consider her analogy
of gravity and grace. Gravity is a tendency of
the self to fall, to cling to the ego and the
social idols. Grace is the power that lifts us
toward the impersonal. Political action for Whale
is the struggle against the gravitational pull
of human power. the puissance, so that the divine
force of grace can work internally. It's an enabling
mechanism, not the ultimate goal. If we could
change the internal structure of the self through
pure decreation, the oppressive social structures
would cease to matter entirely. The ultimate
failure is spiritual, even if the symptoms are
social. If the ultimate failure were purely spiritual,
why did she choose to live the way she did? Her
decisions were a radical, embodied political
statement. She chose to leave the classroom,
to work in the factory, to understand the oppressed.
Then she went to Spain to fight fascism. And
finally, she worked for the resistance movement.
These are not the actions of someone whose ultimate
allegiance is solely to internal renunciation.
She constantly sought the concrete intersection
where internal conviction manifested as external
political solidarity. Well, if we look at the
culmination of her life. Her political commitment
in her final years is undeniable evidence of
her priority. Despite her severe tuberculosis
diagnosis, she refused to accept the special
privileges of the Free French government in London,
meticulously working on reports and proposals,
the most famous of which is The Need for Roots,
intended to build a morally sound post -war France.
More profoundly, her physical suffering in 1943
was a conscious political act of solidarity.
She restricted her own diet to the rations she
believed residents in Nazi -occupied France were
eating. Her death at 34 was directly caused by
cardiac failure linked to this self -imposed
starvation. This goes so far beyond mere personal
asceticism. It was an ultimate, embodied act
of radical political compassion, an attempt to
provide a living, inspiring moral opposite to
Nazism's ideology of brutal force. Her mysticism
was the tool that sharpened her ability to commit
this final, concrete sacrifice for the oppressed.
That is a compelling argument regarding solidarity.
And I agree, her final suffering was monumental.
However, I believe we miss the ultimate point
if we label it merely political solidarity. It
was the absolute, radical expression of her spiritual
commitment to live out the demands of her metaphysics,
the physics of necessity and grace. Her belief
was that only through the destruction of the
self, through the acceptance of suffering, could
one participate in the divine reality. Her self
-denial was the culmination of her philosophy
of decreation, testing its limits against the
crushing reality of physical necessity. It was
her refusal to accept any barrier between her
internal conviction and the external mechanical
world. And we also have to remember her complex
relationship with institutional Christianity.
Her refusal of baptism stemmed from what she
called the love of those things that are outside
Christianity, including Hindu philosophy, Greek
texts, Buddhist wisdom. She understood that complex
human reality required multiple perspectives,
reflected in her Platonic concept of metaksu.
Metaksu means every separation is a link. The
separation of the individual from the body, from
society, and yes, from God, creates the very
links by which we are tethered to the divine.
Her struggle was to live out divine love within
the constraints of the physical, making her body
the final site of the conflict between gravity
or necessity and grace or love. And this is ultimately
a spiritual project that consumes the political.
But the power of that mitosu, that linking separation,
is only realized when the political and material
suffering is acknowledged as real and requiring
intervention. She didn't say ignore the factory.
She said transform the factory. She didn't say
ignore rights. She said replace them with the
stronger moral force of obligations. Her final
act of starvation was a protest against the political
situation that was killing her compatriots, not
merely a resignation to her physical fate. Her
spiritual insight demanded political expression,
making the social critique the engine of her
entire moral life. And I maintain the spiritual
insight was the engine and the political expression
was the inevitable result of applying an absolute
moral standard to a tragically flawed world.
She was attempting to live a life governed by
grace, and grace demands a fundamental change
in the relationship between the self and the
world, a relationship that can only be healed
by transcendence. Ultimately, Simone Weil's enduring
legacy is that her powerful analysis of affliction
provides the most incisive lens for critiquing
modern social and economic oppression. Affliction
is the political reality of force and uprootedness
imposed by exploitative human structures. Her
lasting contribution lies in her practical advocacy
for a society structured around universal human
needs and reciprocal obligations. For Weill,
her mysticism served to sharpen and deepen her
commitment to concrete revolutionary action on
this earth. I come at it from a different way.
Weill ultimately used her direct experience of
oppression, of malheur, to illustrate a profound
theological truth that only through the necessary
destruction and emptying of the self, through
decreation, Can one achieve true justice, attention,
and union with God? The political solutions she
sought, the decentralized workshops, the framework
of obligations, were powerful reflections of
this absolute transcendent spiritual standard
aimed at minimizing human puissance so that the
spiritual act of consent might be possible. The
debate over Simone Weil's work continues precisely
because she refused to accept the separation
between the political earth and the spiritual
heaven. She forces us to confront whether the
most crucial path to human freedom requires changing
the structure of the world or fundamentally changing
the structure of the self. We encourage you to
explore her writings, particularly Gravity and
Grace and The Need for Roots, to discern the
precise weighting of these two powerful, eternally
conflicting forces in her life, gravity and grace.
Thank you for joining us on The Debate.