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Welcome back to the Deep Dive, where we take

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a monumental stack of sources, articles, historical

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texts, and deep investigative reports and give

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you the distilled insight in record time. And

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today our mission is to trace the, well, the

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really improbable journey of Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

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A man who, for so many, was the definitive global

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reformer of the Catholic Church. We're tracking

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his life from his working class roots in Argentina

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right up to his death in 2025. And what a papacy

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it was, just defined by constant institutional

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upheaval. That's right. We are unpacking the

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full, intense history of Pope Francis. And he

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wasn't just historic for being the first Jesuit

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or the first Latin American. I mean, he was the

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first non -European born pope since the 8th century.

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Since Pope Gregory III, who was Syrian, that

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alone is staggering. It is. And his 12 -year

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papacy starting in 2013. It was a period of,

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well, rapid institutional shifts, a massive change

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in tone on social justice. An intense controversy,

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both inside and outside the Vatican walls. Let's

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not forget that. Absolutely not. Our source material

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today is incredibly comprehensive. It covers

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his surprising early career. including some very

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unconventional jobs. And the enduring shadow

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of Argentina's dirty war. The conflicting narratives

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there are just crucial to understanding him.

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We'll also get into the dramatic details of his

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election, his radical, no -frills approach to

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governance, and the relentless diplomatic work

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he undertook across the globe. Especially in

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places like Ukraine, China, and the Middle East.

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So our goal is to extract the essential insights

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and those surprising facts that will get you

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up to speed on one of the most consequential

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popes in modern history. We want you to understand

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not just what he did. But why he felt he had

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to do it. Exactly. OK, let's unpack this. So

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let's start in the very beginning. Flores, Buenos

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Aires. Right. Juan Mario Bergoglio was born there

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in 1936. And this foundational story is so crucial

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because it speaks to an awareness of political

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and economic displacement that, you know, it

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really defined his entire career. career. His

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family was of Italian origin, but the key thing

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is they were immigrants. They came over from

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the Piedmont region in 1929. Right. And they

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came for a very specific, deeply political reason.

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They were fleeing the fascist rule of Benito

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Mussolini. So that experience of political exile,

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of understanding what it means to be pushed out

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by a dictatorial regime, that had to be formative

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for him. It must have been. especially for a

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young boy who would grow up to preach a gospel

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of inclusion. His father was an accountant, so

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the family was stable, but they were certainly

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not wealthy. The background is fascinating, but

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his early resume, I mean, that's where the story

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gets really unique. Before he even thought about

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the seminary, he got a degree that, well, very

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few future popes share. Indeed. The source confirms

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he graduated with a chemical technician's diploma.

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A chemical technician? Yep. From a technical

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high school. It suggests a mind that's, you know,

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grounded in practical application and precision.

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But wait, we have to talk about the jobs that

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came even before that. Yes. The jobs that immediately

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tell you everything you need to know about the

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common touch. He became famous for decades later.

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You mean the man who would eventually wear the

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fisherman's ring was once literally working the

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door? He was a bouncer. He was a bouncer and

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he also worked as a janitor. And look, these

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details aren't just colorful anecdotes. They

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ground him. Right. This is a future pope who

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understands what it's like to clean the floors,

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to manage unruly crowds. It gives him a real

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world perspective that most of his predecessors,

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you know, drawn from more aristocratic or purely

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academic backgrounds, they just didn't have that.

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A bouncer, a janitor, a chemical technician,

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and then a pope. That level of transparency about

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his past, it seems to be a key part of the image

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he later cultivated. The leader who understands

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the common person's struggle. Exactly. But his

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path to the priesthood, it was also nearly cut

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short by a severe lifelong health crisis. A huge

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one. At age 21, he developed a life -threatening

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case of pneumonia and had three cysts on his

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lung. And it was serious enough that they had

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to operate. They did. It required the excision

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of a significant part of one lung. And that chronic

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lung damage, it never truly healed. The sources

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show it resurfaced violently late in his life,

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requiring extensive hospitalization and even

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mechanical ventilation in his final year, 2025.

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So it's a powerful reminder that his entire adult

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life was lived with this underlying physical

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frailty. Absolutely. And his actual vocation.

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The decision to join the Jesuits, it came from

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a really human and unexpected moment. Yeah, the

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source material is very clear on this. He was

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actually on his way to celebrate Spring Day with

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friends. Such as a normal young guy. Exactly.

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And he stopped by a church and decided to go

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to confession. He was so profoundly inspired

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by the priest's insight and spiritual guidance

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that right then and there, he felt the calling.

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He entered the Society of Jesus as a novice in

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1958. He also confessed later on that as a young

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seminarian, Marion, he briefly doubted his career

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because he developed a crush on a girl. I think

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that tiny, deeply human detail immediately separates

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him from the more, you know, ethereal image we

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have of a pontiff. He was dealing with universal

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human struggles, even while training for one

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of the most demanding spiritual roles in the

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world. And that ability to acknowledge frailty,

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both physical and emotional, it seems so central

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to his later message of mercy. It really is.

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After he made his initial vows in 1960, he got

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his licentiate in philosophy. And then for several

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years, he actually taught literature and psychology

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in secondary schools before his ordination as

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a priest in 1969. And then we see his rise within

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the Jesuit order was, well, pretty rapid. He

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becomes the Jesuit provincial superior in Argentina

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from 1973 to 1979. He was a major leader while

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still in his 30s. He was. But this leadership

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role, it eventually led... to some really deep

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friction with his own order. So it wasn't a smooth

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ride. Not at all. It created a fissure that lasted

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for decades. After his term as provincial, he

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was named rector of the theological faculty.

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But by 1986, he was replaced. The new superior

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general who came in, he favored emphasizing social

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justice and direct political action. Ah, so elements

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associated with liberation theology. Exactly.

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And Bergoglio, by contrast, was focused more

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on traditional Catholic orthodoxy and what's

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called popular religiosity. So there was already

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a clear ideological split between his approach

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and... and the sort of prevailing leftward shift

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in the society of Jesus at the time. He was actually

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out of sync with his own order. Which is extraordinary

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when you think about it. He was replaced. He

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went to Frankfurt to study, considering a dissertation

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on the German -Italian theologian Romano Gardini's

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work on contrast. Contrast. That's fitting. It

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is. The focus was on theological tension and

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opposition. He never finished the degree, but

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the internal distance just grew and grew. So

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you're saying the very first Jesuit pope was

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fundamentally an outsider to his own order for

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decades. What did he sacrifice internally by

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maintaining that distance? He sacrificed a great

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deal of comfort and influence. By 1992, the relationship

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was, for all intents and purposes, estranged.

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Jesuit authorities specifically asked him not

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to live in Jesuit residences because of the ongoing

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tensions. Wow. Yeah. Tensions over his views

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on Catholic orthodoxy and his opposition to the

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political dimensions of liberation theology,

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which was very popular then. This virtual exile

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from his own spiritual family, the Jesuits. It

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lasted right up until the day he was elected

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pope. That just underscores his political independence

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and I guess a stubborn adherence to his own pastoral

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vision. Absolutely. Which brings us to his role

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as Archbishop of Buenos Aires from 1998 to 2013.

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This long tenure really cemented the persona

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that the world later came to know as Pope Francis.

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The man of radical simplicity, but also the man

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who was completely unafraid of political or institutional

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pressure. And as archbishop, his life wasn't

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just humble. It was deliberately ascetic. Oh,

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yeah. He famously lived in a small apartment

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instead of the elegant bishop's residence. He

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rejected the chauffeur -driven car in favor of

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public transport. He cooked his own meals. And

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this wasn't just a quirky preference, was it?

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It was a consistent statement about prioritizing

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substance over status? Right. a statement and

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that radical humility was paired with incredibly

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strict financial discipline which was um urgently

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needed in the archdiocese at the time why what

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was the situation The archdiocese was nearing

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bankruptcy, largely due to high internal spending

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and really poor fiscal management. Bergoglio

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stepped in, enforced draconian fiscal discipline,

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sold off the archdiocese's bank shares, and moved

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their accounts to regular international banks

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to ensure transparency. So he was already practicing

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rigorous financial reform at a local level. long

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before he was ever given the mandate to clean

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up the Vatican. Precisely. The experience was

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there. And this financial integrity was matched

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by his deep commitment to the marginalized, which

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earned him the nickname Slum Bishop. He was the

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Valero bishop. He was known for his major initiative

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to dramatically increase the church's presence

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in the villas, Missouri, the poor shanty towns

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of Buenos Aires. And what did that look like

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in practice? He essentially doubled the number

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of priests working there and visited these areas

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frequently himself. This wasn't just, you know,

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outreach for the cameras. It was an effort to

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physically embed the church among the suffering.

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Reinforcing his later statement that the true

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development of people is measured in the face

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of suffering. Exactly that. However, this period,

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specifically the 1970s, when he was the Jesuit

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provincial, it cast the longest shadow over his

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Argentine years. We're talking about the allegations

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regarding his role during the brutal dirty war.

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And this is where we see deeply conflicting narratives

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in the source material about his actions. It's

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very complex. So the controversy centers specifically

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on the disappearance and torture of two Jesuit

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priests, Orlando Iorio and Franz Jalix, in 1976.

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What was the accusation? The accusation was grave.

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It was that Bergoglio, as their superior, failed

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to protect them. Or worse, that he had effectively

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dismissed them from the Society of Jesus right

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before their arrest, which critics claimed was

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a signal to the military junta that they were,

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you know, fair game. But the defense, which is

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detailed heavily in the sources, it paints a

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completely different picture. A completely different

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one. A portrait of a man quietly working behind

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the scenes to save lives at immense personal

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risk. But what's the evidence for that side of

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the story? Well, Bergoglio himself claimed he

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worked directly with the regime, interceding

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specifically with the dictator Jorge Rafael Videla

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on the priest's behalf. He believed that may

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have secured their release and saved their lives.

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And there's more, right? Oh, yeah. Authorized

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accounts state he sheltered dissidents on church

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property. He once even gave his own identity

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papers to a man who looked like him so that he

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could flee the country. A former judge, Alicia

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Oliveira, she corroborated this, stating Bergoglio

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was anguished by the dictatorship and actively

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helped people escape. And what about the priests

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themselves? Their testimony seems to have shifted

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over time. It's complex. Initially, Yorio was

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definitely critical, accusing Bergoglio of doing

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nothing to free them. However, later testimony

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really altered the narrative. Friends Jalix,

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who spent five months in captivity, issued a

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crucial clarifying statement after Francis's

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election. What did he say? He confirmed that,

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and I'm quoting here, it is wrong to assert that

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our capture took place at the initiative of Father

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Bergoglio and that Bergoglio did not denounce

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them. So while the situation remains politically

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charged. The weight of later testimonies and

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investigations seems to have defended his integrity.

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It does. And you have major human rights advocates

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coming to his defense. Nobel Peace Prize laureate

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Adolfo Perez Esquivel stated definitively that

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Bergoglio never collaborated with the dictatorship.

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So the picture that emerges is one of a man navigating

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a moral tightrope in a period where everyone

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was under surveillance. I think that's fair.

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It's clear he was working against the regime

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in secret, even if his public, non -confrontational

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approach was later misinterpreted by some. So,

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having navigated the shadows of a dictatorship,

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Bergoglio was clearly unafraid of political pressure.

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And that grit was immediately tested by the democratically

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elected government, specifically the populist

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left -wing regime of the Kirchners. Oh, that

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relationship with Presidents Nestor and Christina

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Kirchner was notoriously tense. Nestor Kirchner

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even considered Bergoglio a political rival.

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A rival. He viewed the archbishop's popularity

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and his moral authority as a direct threat to

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his own political power. And the ultimate friction

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point was the 2010 same -sex marriage legislation.

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That was the big one. Bergoglio vehemently and

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publicly opposed the bill, which he called a

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destructive pretension against the plan of God.

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It was a huge public clash. And that fiery public

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opposition was seen as a strategic error by some,

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but the entire relationship changed. I mean,

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overnight, when he was elected pope. It was what

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political analysts called a dramatic Copernican

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shift. by christina kirchner suddenly francis

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was a global phenomenon and she fully embraced

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him she even met privately with him before his

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inauguration a hugely important symbolic meeting

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yeah it just demonstrated how his moral authority

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now transcended national politics completely

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we should also remember that his eventual election

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in 2013 it wasn't entirely out of the blue he

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had already been a major contender in the previous

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conclave in 2005 a very reluctant contender but

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yes he was made a cardinal in 2001 by John Paul

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II, and reports from the 2005 conclave, which

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rely on credible, though anonymous, cardinal

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sources, they claim that Bergoglio was the main

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challenger to Cardinal Ratzinger. Who became

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Benedict VI. Right. And supposedly, Bergoglio

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received 40 votes at one point in the third ballot,

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which showed significant internal support. And

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he performed this, well, extraordinary and selfless

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act to end what was seen as a deadlock between

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the two leading figures. He reportedly made an

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emotional plea to his fellow cardinals, asking

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them to stop voting for him. Why would he do

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that? His motivation was to prevent the conclave

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from delaying the election of a clear pope any

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further. It speaks volumes about his character.

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He actively tried to suppress his own election

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to prioritize clarity and stability for the church.

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It shows he was not a careerist. So all this

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history... The humility, the financial discipline,

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the political independence, it all culminated

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in the 2013 election. He was elected on the fifth

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ballot. And everything about that first appearance

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on the balcony immediately signaled that the

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status quo was over. Starting with the name,

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Francis. After St. Francis of Assisi, it was

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the first profound statement emphasizing concern

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for the poor, for peace, for creation. The source

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highlights he chose the name after Brazilian

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Cardinal Claudio Hums embraced him and whispered,

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Don't forget the poor. And he insisted on being

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called simply Francis. Yeah. No Roman numeral.

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Right. Another way of simplifying the ancient

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office from the very start. And the dismantling

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of formality was instant and intentional. He

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walked out in a simple white cassock, refusing

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the traditional red mazetta cape. That cape,

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often trimmed with ermine, it symbolized all

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the palm of the office. He wanted none of it.

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He was trading symbolism for substance. He kept

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the simple iron pectoral cross he had worn as

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archbishop rather than accepting the traditional

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gold one. And he used silver for his fisherman's

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ring. All of it was sending a visual message

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to the world. This papacy is about ministry,

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not medieval ornamentation. I think the small

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human moments speak the loudest here. He refused

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the papal limousine and took the bus back with

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the other cardinals. And he stood up to receive

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their congratulations instead of sitting on the

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papal throne. But the most famous anecdote, the

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one that broke through the global news, was his

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insistence on stopping by the guesthouse to collect

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his things and, critically, to pay his bill before

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officially moving into the Apostolic Palace.

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It sounds like a charming story, but what did

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that single act instantly communicate about his

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view of the Vatican's traditional finances? It

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was a clear, immediate statement against the

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traditional expectation of privilege and entitlement

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within the Vatican bureaucracy. So a rejection

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of the idea that the Pope operates above mundane

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rules. Exactly. It sent a shiver down the spine

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of the Roman Curia. The message was clear. the

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financial cleanup has begun. And speaking of

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residences, he never actually moved into the

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traditional home of the popes, the Apostolic

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Palace. Correct. In a completely unprecedented

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move for a modern pope, Francis chose to reside

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in the Dome Sainte -Marthe guest house, just

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a common suite where he could receive visitors.

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Not the luxurious and often lonely Apostolic

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Palace apartments. No, he was the first pope

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since Pius X, over a century earlier, to live

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outside those apartments. It signaled a permanent

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shift away from what he viewed as the isolating

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excesses of the papacy. This revolution in style

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was quickly followed by him laying the theological

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foundation for his entire papacy. Starting with

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his motto, Miserando atque elegendo. Which translates

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as, By having mercy and by choosing. It's drawn

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from the story of St. Matthew the tax collector.

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It immediately set the core tone. The central

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theme of his papacy would be God's boundless

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mercy over any rigid adherence to institutional

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rules. And this emphasis on mercy and accessibility,

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it became the programmatic text of his papacy,

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Evangelii Gaudium, which was published only seven

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months after his election in 2013. That document

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was a comprehensive blueprint. It called for

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a missionary and pastoral conversion. It advocated

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for a church that fully includes the laity in

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its mission. And critically, he coined that famous

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phrase. That church shepherds must have the smell

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of the sheep. Meaning they have to stay close

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to the common people of God, deeply involved

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in their lives and struggles. And this was essentially

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his mandate to the clergy to move away from internal

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focus and status, what he vehemently termed clericalism.

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Oh, he saw clericalism as a disease. He defined

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it as dwelling excessively on priestly status

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and authority, and he believed it isolated priests

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from the very people they were meant to serve.

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He warned repeatedly that poorly trained or self

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-serving priests could become little monsters.

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So this focus on service, radical simplicity

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and inclusion, it formed the core ideological

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identity of his decade -long tenure. And it positioned

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him constantly against the internal forces of

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tradition and bureaucracy. Now, Francis didn't

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just redefine the role of the pope. He fundamentally

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shifted the theological priorities of the church

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outward toward global social justice concerns.

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We see this immediately with his focus on the

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environment. Indicated by his name choice, Francis

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of Assisi, the patron saint of ecology. And his

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environmental focus wasn't just... It was codified

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in serious, high -level theological documents.

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Right. His 2015 encyclical, Laudato Si, Praise

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Be to You, was a monumental work. It called for

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swift and decisive action on climate change.

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This document fundamentally established the concept

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of integral ecology within Catholic teaching.

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And what does integral ecology mean, exactly?

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It's the idea that the environmental crisis and

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the social crisis of poverty are intrinsically

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linked. You can't solve one without addressing

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the other. So this wasn't just a general call

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for conservation. He was condemning the economic

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and political systems driving the destruction.

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Absolutely. Laudato si' condemned indifference

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to the ecosystem, the worship of technology,

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and greed for short -term profit. He argued that

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the earth itself is among the most abandoned

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and mistreated of the poor. And he followed this

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up. in 2023 with another document, Laudat Deum.

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Praise God. Yes, he released that ahead of the

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COP28 conference, and it specifically and strongly

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condemned climate change denial, warning that

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the planet was near the breaking point. He also

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elevated the environmental crisis to a moral

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and legal issue of the highest order. He did.

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In 2019, he stated unequivocally that ecocide

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The serious destruction of the natural environment

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was a sin and that it should be classified as

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a fifth category of crimes against peace under

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international law. A huge push for global accountability.

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And he backed it up with gestures at the Vatican

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itself. In June 2024, he ordered the Vatican

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to construct an agrivoltaics facility on its

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land holdings outside Rome. Combining solar energy

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with agriculture. A practical, visible demonstration

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of the principles of integral ecology. Beyond

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the environment, he was relentless in his economic

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criticism, consistently siding with the marginalized

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and critiquing mainstream capitalist theories.

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Especially those favored by political conservatives.

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He was a staunch vocal critic of what he repeatedly

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termed trickle -down economics, consumerism,

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and unchecked overdevelopment. He used some very

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strong language, didn't he? He did. In one address,

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he stated that the current global economic model

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kills because it focuses solely on profit rather

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than the human person. And in 2024, we saw him

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push for incredibly specific economic policies,

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moving far beyond just general moral calls for

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charity. This is where he became politically

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explicit. He renewed calls for a universal basic

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income, or UBI. And he explicitly supported higher

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taxes on billionaires, warning that the world's

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wealthy were obsessed with pure greed. And for

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him, the true measure of a society wasn't its

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GDP. Not at all. It was how it cares for its

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most vulnerable. He said the true development

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of people is measured in the face of suffering.

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He also embraced popular movements as a necessary

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antidote to what he called the culture of the

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self. And he even went as far as praising Gustavo

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Gutierrez, the founder of liberation theology,

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which is a remarkable historical turn given the

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ideological conflict that caused his estrangement

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from the Jesuits decades prior. So how did he

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reframe it? He emphasized the positive aspect

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of grassroots solidarity and activism for the

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poor. encouraging Christians and even Marxists

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to cooperate on social issues. Finally, in the

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realm of morality While maintaining traditional

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Catholic teaching on fundamental issues like

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abortion, he showed a distinct reluctance to

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focus narrowly on what he viewed as secondary

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moral debates. He famously criticized the obsession

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of some Catholics with a selection of issues,

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specifically citing abortion, gay marriage, and

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the use of contraceptive methods. And he suggested

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that this hyper -focus did not show the heart

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of the message of Jesus Christ. Exactly. He argued

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the church needed to be a field hospital. first.

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You provide healing and mercy before dwelling

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on complicated moral specifics. But perhaps his

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most tangible and lasting moral reform relates

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to the death penalty, a change that required

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revising the church's fundamental doctrine. It

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was huge. Francis committed the church to the

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worldwide abolition of the death penalty. In

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2018, he revised the Catechism of the Catholic

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Church, the church's official doctrine, to state

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that capital punishment is inadmissible in all

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cases. Inadmissible in all cases. That's a massive

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doctrinal shift, isn't it? It's massive. Previous

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popes had accepted the death penalty as permissible

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in extremely rare cases where it was the only

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way to defend human lives against an unjust aggressor.

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And Francis completely closed that door. He did.

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He asserted that because modern society possesses

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the technology and means to safely detain offenders,

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capital punishment is always an attack on the

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inviolability and dignity of the person, regardless

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of the severity of the crime. Let's talk about

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institutional reforms. Francis inherited a Vatican

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that was widely seen as needing a serious overhaul,

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particularly regarding its finances and internal

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governance. And he was explicitly mandated by

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the cardinals who elected him to clean up the

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financial scandals. So let's start with the opaque

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and notorious Vatican Bank, the Institute for

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the Works of Religion, or IOR. The IOR was a

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major liability. It was facing longstanding allegations

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of corruption, insufficient money laundering

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controls, and maintaining thousands of suspicious,

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often anonymous, accounts. So he was forced to

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act immediately to ensure compliance with international

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financial standards. What did he do? He appointed

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a commission to advise on reform, replacing four

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of the five cardinal overseers in January 2014.

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More importantly, he introduced sweeping internal

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regulatory changes and auditing standards. led

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to a lot of accounts being closed. Thousands.

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By 2015, the IOR had closed thousands of accounts

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belonging to entities and individuals who did

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not meet the strict new transparency requirements.

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The goal was full transparency, and he even showed

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a willingness to close the bank entirely if the

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reforms proved impossible. He also applied this

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new fiscal restraint to the Curia itself, specifically

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targeting the traditional culture of entitlement.

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He abolished the large traditional bonuses paid

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to Vatican employees upon the election of a new

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pope, directing the millions of euros saved to

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charity instead. I also read he abolished the

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25 ,000 annual bonus that was paid to cardinals

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serving on the board of supervisors for the Vatican

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Bank. He did. It was all part of his rejection

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of careerism and financial privilege within the

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church hierarchy. Beyond finance. One of his

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flagship initiatives was the profound change

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to internal governance through the creation of

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the synodal church. The synod on synodality,

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which Francis convened in 2023, was perhaps the

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culmination of his vision. It was aiming for

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deep structural change. And the fundamental goal

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was a radical decentralization of governance

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away from Rome. Right. Instead of a purely top

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-down structure, he aimed for a church that listens,

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where decisions are made in dialogue with the

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people and local bishops. part of that process

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involved integrating the laity and critically

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women into the decision -making structure his

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new apostolic constitution episcopal's communio

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formally allowed lay people to contribute input

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directly and then the most controversial and

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historically significant development was that

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2023 synod where he granted voting rights to

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35 women Those women experts and religious sisters

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amounted to just over 10 % of all voters, but

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it marked the first time women were ever allowed

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to vote in a synod of bishops. Fundamentally

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challenging the idea that only ordained clergy

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can hold institutional power. Now, regarding

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the role of women more broadly, this is a topic

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where Francis's progressive institutional changes

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clash sharply with his firm adherence to doctrine.

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It's a key contradiction we need to dissect.

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It is the essential tightrope that Francis walked

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his entire papacy. He categorically rejected

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the ordination of women as priests. He stated

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that the doctrine is definitive and that holy

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orders is reserved for men. But at the same time,

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he systematically unlocked almost every other

00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:44.289
institutional door for women. Right, which led

00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:47.009
some to view it as progressive pragmatism and

00:26:47.009 --> 00:26:49.630
others to see it as an ultimate failure on gender

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equality. So what were some of the key institutional

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appointments that reflected this balance? He

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appointed women as full members of dicastries.

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That's the term for the departments of the Roman

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Curia, the Vatican's ministries. He appointed

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women to posts previously held only by men, like

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the Italian magistrate Katia Sumeria as the first

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woman promoter of justice in the Vatican's Court

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of Appeals, and Natalie Beckert, a French nun,

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as co -undersecretary of the Synod of Bishops.

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He also seemed to waver on the possibility of

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female deacons, which is often seen as a possible

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step toward greater inclusion in the ministry.

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He did. He impaneled two separate commissions,

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one in 2016 and another in 2020, to study the

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history of female deacons in early Christianity.

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But the first commission failed to reach a consensus

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on whether the historical role was sacramental.

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And he later appeared to reject the idea entirely.

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He did. In 2024, he emphasized that women's place

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in the church is much more important than the

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ministerial way, which seemed to close the door,

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at least for now, on that possibility. OK, now

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we get to the core of the conservative backlash

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he faced. The three major theological documents

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that sparked intense, visible and often unprecedented

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internal conflict. First, let's go back. Back

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to Emerus Letitia in 2016. This apostolic exhortation

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on love within the family focused on pastoral

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care for those in irregular situations, particularly

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divorced and civilly remarried Catholics. And

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the controversy centered on a nuanced footnote.

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A footnote suggesting that in certain specific

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situations, after sufficient reflection and guidance,

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these individuals might be able to receive communion.

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He called for responsible personal and pastoral

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discernment of particular cases. Why did this

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specific nuance cause such an immense challenge

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to his authority? Because traditionalists argue

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that communion must be reserved only for those

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in a state of grace. And being civilly remarried

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while the first marriage is still considered

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valid by the church constitutes adultery, which

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is a state of sin. So Francis was essentially

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prioritizing mercy and individual conscience

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over rigid application of the rule. Exactly.

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And this prompted four cardinals to issue the

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dubia a formal request for clarification on doctrine.

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It was an unprecedented public challenge, and

00:29:02.819 --> 00:29:04.980
it led conservative critics to escalate their

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criticism with accusations of promoting heretical

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propositions. Then came the traditional Latin

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mass controversy. which was a direct reversal

00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.539
of his predecessor's policy. Right. In 2021,

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Francis issued the decree Traditionis Custodes,

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which imposed severe restrictions on the use

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of the older tridentine mass, often called the

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traditional Latin mass. And this mass represented

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a specific pre -Vatican II vision of the church.

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It did, and Benedict VI had broadly liberalized

00:29:33.670 --> 00:29:36.890
its use. So Francis's decree was a direct rejection

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of the liturgical path favored by conservatives

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and his predecessor. A very swift targeted act

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of ideological warfare. That's one way to put

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.299
it. Francis significantly increased Vatican oversight

00:29:48.299 --> 00:29:51.039
over the ritual and restricted the right of newly

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ordained priests to celebrate it, stating that

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the Latin mass was being used to sow division

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and reject the reforms of the Second Vatican

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Council. Traditionalist prelates found the move

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unnecessarily harsh, but he was resolute. But

00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.619
the internal firestorm reached its absolute zenith

00:30:06.619 --> 00:30:09.359
with fiducious supplicants in December 2023.

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This was the big one. Fiducia supplicants allowed

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Catholic priests to perform spontaneous blessings

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for same -sex couples and other irregular relationships

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provided the blessing was non -liturgical. So

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it couldn't look or sound like a sacrament. Right.

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He reiterated that marriage remains exclusively

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between a man and a woman, but the document marked

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a seismic shift in pastoral tone, emphasizing

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that God welcomes all people. And the response

00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:36.160
was immediately global and explosive. It sparked

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.460
intense controversy. Conservative prelates called

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it sacrilegious and blasphemous. And crucially,

00:30:42.950 --> 00:30:45.130
the source details that the fallout involves

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an unprecedented political act. The entire assembly

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of African bishops announced a collective rejection

00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:54.950
of the declaration. An entire continent's bishops.

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An entire continent's Episcopal conference. They

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stated that implementing such blessings cannot

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be carried out in Africa without exposing themselves

00:31:03.049 --> 00:31:06.089
to scandals. This public collective rejection

00:31:06.089 --> 00:31:08.710
was a monumental challenge to the pope's immediate

00:31:08.710 --> 00:31:11.500
authority. Despite these intense internal conflicts,

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.400
Francis maintained an incredibly active global

00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:17.519
diplomatic role, often favoring quiet negotiation

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.690
and bridge -building over confrontation. Even

00:31:20.690 --> 00:31:23.190
in the most politically fraught situations, the

00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:25.029
most controversial example of this diplomatic

00:31:25.029 --> 00:31:27.289
approach was his rapprochement with the People's

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Republic of China. Despite the Vatican still

00:31:29.309 --> 00:31:31.930
formally recognizing Taiwan. Right. Francis took

00:31:31.930 --> 00:31:34.509
a highly conciliatory line, believing uneasy

00:31:34.509 --> 00:31:37.369
dialogue was better than silence. And what was

00:31:37.369 --> 00:31:39.069
the core strategic rationale for the Vatican

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:41.569
engaging in this? The primary goal was protecting

00:31:41.569 --> 00:31:44.529
the Chinese underground church and ensuring canonical

00:31:44.529 --> 00:31:48.549
continuity. The 2018 Provisional Vatican -China

00:31:48.549 --> 00:31:51.230
Agreement, which was renewed multiple times,

00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:53.750
it gave the Vatican a role in consulting with

00:31:53.750 --> 00:31:55.589
the Chinese government on the appointment of

00:31:55.589 --> 00:31:58.289
bishops. And in return, the government recognized

00:31:58.289 --> 00:32:01.049
the Pope as the supreme head of the church. Exactly.

00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:03.430
The Vatican hoped this would stop the appointment

00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:05.589
of state -controlled bishops without a papal

00:32:05.589 --> 00:32:08.369
mandate. But critics, including Cardinal Joseph

00:32:08.369 --> 00:32:12.099
Zen, warned the sold -out loyal Chinese Catholics

00:32:12.099 --> 00:32:14.779
and accepted infringements on religious freedom.

00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.049
And they had a point. Because China repeatedly

00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:20.210
violated the terms, they unilaterally installed

00:32:20.210 --> 00:32:23.150
bishops without Vatican approval. Yet Francis

00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:25.869
consistently defended the strategy, arguing that

00:32:25.869 --> 00:32:28.369
any mechanism for dialogue offered a path to

00:32:28.369 --> 00:32:31.369
prevent a total schism. He even later recognized

00:32:31.369 --> 00:32:34.089
an irregular appointment just to remedy the canonical

00:32:34.089 --> 00:32:37.390
irregularity, prioritizing unity over condemnation.

00:32:37.569 --> 00:32:39.750
On a different front, he played a key and very

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:42.930
successful mediating role in restoring full diplomatic

00:32:42.930 --> 00:32:45.940
relations between the U .S. and Cuba. Tremendous

00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:49.819
diplomatic victory in 2014. He played a key role

00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:52.000
following a direct request from President Obama.

00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:54.839
He was uniquely positioned because he held the

00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.559
confidence of both administrations. And the success

00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.500
was so profound that Cuban leader Raul Castro,

00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:03.119
after meeting Francis, said he was considering

00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.039
returning to the Catholic Church. An amazing

00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.700
outcome. Turning to the Middle East, Francis

00:33:07.700 --> 00:33:10.420
offered strong symbolic gestures in the Israeli

00:33:10.420 --> 00:33:13.480
-Palestinian conflict long before the ultimate

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:17.019
flare -up in 2023. During his 2014 visit, he

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:19.660
made very conscious, symbolic gestures to both

00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:22.200
sides. He was the first pope to visit the grave

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.200
of Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism, symbolizing

00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.859
respect for the Jewish homeland. He then prayed

00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:29.920
at a section of the Israeli West Bank barrier,

00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:33.039
symbolizing solidarity with Palestinians, and

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:35.420
he later signed the Vatican's first treaty recognizing

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.500
the state of Palestine in 2015. Following the

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:40.759
October 7 attacks and the subsequent Gaza war,

00:33:40.980 --> 00:33:43.859
his condemnation was dual -sided and became increasingly

00:33:43.859 --> 00:33:46.650
political. It did. He condemned the October 7

00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:49.650
attacks, but was also intensely critical of Israel's

00:33:49.650 --> 00:33:52.650
military operations in Gaza. He used powerful

00:33:52.650 --> 00:33:55.509
language, calling their actions cruelty and even

00:33:55.509 --> 00:33:59.109
terrorism after an IDF sniper killed two Palestinian

00:33:59.109 --> 00:34:01.390
Christian women sheltering in a church. And in

00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:04.500
November 2024, he went even further. He suggested

00:34:04.500 --> 00:34:06.500
the international community should investigate

00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:09.599
if Israel's campaign in Gaza constituted a genocide

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.260
of the Palestinian people. And we learned a surprising

00:34:12.260 --> 00:34:14.920
detail about his personal pastoral commitment

00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.880
to the region. right up until his death. An incredible

00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.199
detail. He personally telephoned Gaza's only

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.219
Catholic church, the Holy Family Parish, every

00:34:24.219 --> 00:34:27.340
single night from October 2023 until the day

00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:30.900
he died on Easter Monday, April 21st, 2025. Every

00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:32.880
single night. It just underlines his consistent

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.940
pastoral connection to the war -battered region.

00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:37.420
His non -aligned stance was perhaps most severely

00:34:37.420 --> 00:34:39.920
tested by the war in Ukraine, where his initial

00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.579
response drew significant frustration from Ukrainians

00:34:42.579 --> 00:34:44.780
and the Western world. That is an understatement.

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.079
In February 2022, immediately after the invasion,

00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:51.139
he made the unprecedented step of visiting the

00:34:51.139 --> 00:34:53.519
Russian embassy in Rome to personally express

00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.860
his concerns. But he also said something that

00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:57.900
was seen as echoing Russian narratives. He did.

00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.500
He later suggested the conflict was somehow either

00:35:01.500 --> 00:35:04.340
provoked or not prevented, citing an unnamed

00:35:04.340 --> 00:35:06.579
world leader who claimed NATO was barking at

00:35:06.579 --> 00:35:10.019
the gates. This was deeply frustrating to Ukrainians

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:12.679
who saw it as failing to clearly condemn the

00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.940
aggressor. So what was the motivation for maintaining

00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:17.789
this controversial non -aligned position? Analysts

00:35:17.789 --> 00:35:20.190
concluded his hope was to position the Vatican

00:35:20.190 --> 00:35:23.650
as an impartial, neutral broker of peace. He

00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:25.789
argued that taking sides would eliminate any

00:35:25.789 --> 00:35:28.010
chance of meaningful dialogue. So even though

00:35:28.010 --> 00:35:30.510
he later recognized Ukraine had suffered aggression

00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:33.269
and called them a noble people. He continued

00:35:33.269 --> 00:35:35.829
to warn against a simplistic good versus evil

00:35:35.829 --> 00:35:38.190
perception of the conflict. His focus remained

00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:41.030
rigidly on dialogue, even saying dialogue must

00:35:41.030 --> 00:35:43.650
continue with any power that is at war, even

00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:45.690
if it is with the aggressor. And he dispatched

00:35:45.690 --> 00:35:48.099
high ranking. envoys to the region, which was

00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:51.099
a highly unusual diplomatic move. Very unusual.

00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.260
He sent two high ranking cardinals, Krajewski

00:35:54.260 --> 00:35:57.360
and Czerny, as direct envoys to Ukraine and the

00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.280
surrounding refugee camps. It signaled his direct

00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.860
engagement, even while maintaining that delicate

00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:05.340
political distance. Finally, we turn to the constant

00:36:05.340 --> 00:36:08.000
advocacy that defined his international persona.

00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:11.219
The championing of migrants and refugees. This

00:36:11.219 --> 00:36:13.559
was arguably the most consistent core component

00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.159
of his global work. He consistently called the

00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.420
protection of migrants a duty of civilization

00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:21.420
and fiercely criticized neo -nationalists who

00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:24.360
rejected refugees. His visit to the Moria refugee

00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.139
camp on Lesbos in 2016 was a huge statement.

00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.320
It was a visible statement against what he called

00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.260
the globalization of indifference. And his final

00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:35.840
powerful diplomatic act was a direct confrontation

00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.420
with nativism in the United States. following

00:36:38.420 --> 00:36:41.960
the 2025 mass deportations. It was. Following

00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.260
the U .S. elections, the new administration defended

00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:47.280
strict anti -immigrant policies using the technical

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.119
Catholic concept of ordo amoris, the right ordering

00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.739
of one's love to justify nativism. Arguing you

00:36:52.739 --> 00:36:55.179
must love your own nation first. Right. And Francis

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:57.860
issued an excoriating response to U .S. bishops,

00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.800
citing the parable of the Good Samaritan. He

00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.920
clarified that true love, the ordo amoris, builds

00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.219
a fraternity open to all without exception. He

00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:10.119
used a highly technical theological term to dismantle

00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.440
the political justification for closing borders.

00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.280
If there is one area where Francis marked a permanent

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.000
shift in the Catholic Church, it's the tone with

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.320
which it addresses the LGBTQ plus community,

00:37:20.539 --> 00:37:23.480
even if the doctrine remains unchanged. And that

00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.300
famous question set the stage for everything

00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:28.219
that followed. Who am I to judge? Delivered on

00:37:28.219 --> 00:37:30.300
an airplane returning from World Youth Day in

00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:33.940
July 2013, it signaled a seismic, immediate change

00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:36.050
from his predecessors. His papacy emphasized

00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:39.289
the need to accept, welcome, and accompany LGBTQ

00:37:39.289 --> 00:37:42.409
people, moving away from past rhetoric that focused

00:37:42.409 --> 00:37:45.630
solely on condemnation. This shift in tone led

00:37:45.630 --> 00:37:47.750
to high -profile recognition from outside the

00:37:47.750 --> 00:37:49.869
church hierarchy almost immediately. Francis

00:37:49.869 --> 00:37:52.090
was named the Advocate's Person of the Year in

00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:55.909
2013, an American LGBTQ magazine. And he took

00:37:55.909 --> 00:37:58.469
concrete steps, publicly denouncing the criminalization

00:37:58.469 --> 00:38:01.929
of homosexuality globally as unjust and a sin.

00:38:02.210 --> 00:38:05.880
So we have this constant delicate balance. doctrine

00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.639
versus pastoral care. He supported civil unions,

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.940
but maintained the traditional definition of

00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:14.880
marriage. Exactly. He reiterated that marriage

00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.179
is exclusively between a man and a woman, based

00:38:17.179 --> 00:38:20.170
on procreation and complementarity. But he supported

00:38:20.170 --> 00:38:23.110
civil unions for same sex couples as necessary

00:38:23.110 --> 00:38:25.969
legal protections. He separated the legal sphere

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from the sacramental. And under his pontificate,

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the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith confirmed

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that transgender people could be baptized under

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certain conditions. Showing a strong desire for

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acceptance and integration of individuals. And

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the ultimate, most controversial expression of

00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.829
that pastoral shift was fiducia supplicans. Which

00:38:43.829 --> 00:38:46.210
we discussed earlier, allowing for the blessing

00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:48.710
of individuals in same -sex relationships. A

00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:51.030
decree which specifically blessed the individuals

00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:54.090
in irregular relationships, emphasizing mercy

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for the person without approving the union itself.

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It was the theological tightrope walk writ large.

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However, this shift was not without major contradictions

00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:05.090
and confusing messaging, particularly around

00:39:05.090 --> 00:39:07.750
gender issues. Which drew criticism from both

00:39:07.750 --> 00:39:10.050
liberals. liberals and conservatives. He faced

00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:11.909
criticism for suggesting gay children should

00:39:11.909 --> 00:39:14.690
seek psychiatric treatment, though he later rescinded

00:39:14.690 --> 00:39:17.170
that statement. And he frequently criticized

00:39:17.170 --> 00:39:20.909
what he termed gender ideology. He did. He described

00:39:20.909 --> 00:39:23.690
gender affirming education and theory as ideological

00:39:23.690 --> 00:39:27.210
colonization, stating that ideology nullifies

00:39:27.210 --> 00:39:29.630
differences between men and women. But he made

00:39:29.630 --> 00:39:32.250
an effort to clarify that his criticism of the

00:39:32.250 --> 00:39:35.110
ideology was not a criticism of transgender people

00:39:35.110 --> 00:39:37.550
themselves. He was very careful to draw that

00:39:37.550 --> 00:39:40.530
distinction. He stated his criticism was directed

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:43.010
at the ideology he saw as undermining the natural

00:39:43.010 --> 00:39:45.889
order, not a transgender people themselves who

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must be accepted and integrated into society.

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He privately met with many LGBTQ people and activists

00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:54.059
throughout his papacy, demonstrating that dual

00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:56.659
approach, maintaining the doctrinal lines while

00:39:56.659 --> 00:39:58.639
practicing radical acceptance of the individual.

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Let's turn to the final phase of his papacy,

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which was defined by increasing physical frailty

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:06.519
and a final burst of institutional reckoning.

00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.559
Francis entered his papacy already having survived

00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.780
that life -threatening illness that cost him

00:40:11.780 --> 00:40:14.400
part of a lung. His final years were marked by

00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.349
recurrent chronic health issues. chronic lung

00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:20.389
damage, severe knee problems, sciatica. Starting

00:40:20.389 --> 00:40:23.289
in 2022, he was forced to frequently use a wheelchair,

00:40:23.590 --> 00:40:26.869
a walker, or a cane for public appearances. And

00:40:26.869 --> 00:40:29.230
he didn't hide his condition, describing it as

00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:33.199
a new, slower phase of his papacy. And disability

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.860
advocates widely praised him for making his disability

00:40:35.860 --> 00:40:38.280
visible, challenging the historical norm of a

00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.800
pope who must appear physically robust. He also

00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.199
endured multiple hospitalizations. A respiratory

00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.340
infection and abdominal surgery in 2023, and

00:40:46.340 --> 00:40:49.000
then a severe polymicrobial infection and bilateral

00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.440
pneumonia in early 2025, which required mechanical

00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.639
ventilation. And yet he continued working right

00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.800
until his last public appearance on Easter Sunday,

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April 20, 2025. His commitment to institutional

00:41:00.230 --> 00:41:02.789
reckoning regarding the clergy sexual abuse scandal

00:41:02.789 --> 00:41:05.730
was also a defining late -stage element of his

00:41:05.730 --> 00:41:08.730
papacy. Absolutely. He apologized for sexual

00:41:08.730 --> 00:41:11.550
abuse by clergy in the U .S., Ireland, and Canada,

00:41:11.710 --> 00:41:15.309
and he issued the first Vatican apology for cultural

00:41:15.309 --> 00:41:18.090
genocide committed in Canadian residential schools

00:41:18.090 --> 00:41:22.110
in 2022. And crucially, he abolished pontifical

00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:26.070
secrecy in abuse cases in 2019. A critical procedural

00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:29.489
step toward transparency. It clarified that bishops

00:41:29.489 --> 00:41:32.130
do not need Vatican authorization to turn over

00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:34.840
materials to civil law enforcement. And he took

00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.320
the unusual step of publicly thanking journalists

00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.599
for their role in uncovering the scandals. He

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.360
did. He thanked them for helping us not to sweep

00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.199
it under the carpet and for the voice you have

00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.340
given to the abuse victims. However, the sources

00:41:46.340 --> 00:41:49.139
also note that even late in his life, issues

00:41:49.139 --> 00:41:51.360
of accountability continue to draw scrutiny.

00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.119
They did. The handling of cases like Cardinal

00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.400
Jean -Pierre Ricard or the artist Father Marco

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.679
Rupnik showed that the Vatican's commitment to

00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.300
full justice was still a work in progress. Francis

00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:04.219
died on Easter Monday, April 21st, 2020. 25 at

00:42:04.219 --> 00:42:06.559
the age of 88. His cause of death was attributed

00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.159
to a cerebral stroke. coma, and cardiac arrest.

00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.380
And his final wishes regarding his burial were

00:42:12.380 --> 00:42:15.000
themselves unconventional, fitting his lifelong

00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.179
rejection of pomp. He didn't want to be buried

00:42:17.179 --> 00:42:20.239
at St. Peter's Basilica. No, his spiritual testament

00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.179
stipulated his desire to be buried at the Basilica

00:42:23.179 --> 00:42:26.579
of Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome. This made him

00:42:26.579 --> 00:42:29.059
the first pope to be interred there since Clement

00:42:29.059 --> 00:42:33.579
IX in 1669. A final symbolic act eschewing the

00:42:33.579 --> 00:42:36.900
primary monumental symbol of papal power. for

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:39.739
a basilica dedicated to Mary, the mother of God.

00:42:39.900 --> 00:42:42.840
Ultimately, his legacy is one of radical change

00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.360
achieved through immense political and theological

00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.840
risk. He fundamentally changed the future direction

00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.420
of the church. He irrevocably changed the College

00:42:51.420 --> 00:42:54.079
of Cardinals by appointing over 80 % of the electors

00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.179
for his successor. He significantly reduced the

00:42:57.179 --> 00:42:59.860
European share from a majority to a plurality,

00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:02.400
prioritizing men from the Global South and Asia

00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.960
who shared his pastoral vision. He formalized

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.099
the Church's commitment to the worldwide abolition

00:43:07.099 --> 00:43:09.019
of the death penalty. And while he maintained

00:43:09.019 --> 00:43:11.619
the prohibition on female ordination, he made

00:43:11.619 --> 00:43:14.159
massive strides in increasing women's presence

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.679
in governance and institutional functions. He

00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.239
was a pope who simultaneously simplified the

00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.340
appearance of the office, living in a guest house,

00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:24.880
refusing traditional garb, while immensely complicit

00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:25.940
in the complicating the internal theological

00:43:25.940 --> 00:43:29.460
landscape. He leveraged optics to force substance.

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That's a good way to put it. So we have charted

00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:34.480
the life of Pope Francis, a figure defined by

00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.599
radical simplicity, a deep pastoral connection

00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.360
to the marginalized, and an unprecedented willingness

00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.760
to engage in institutional warfare to change

00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.380
the church's priorities. He was unafraid to steer

00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:47.639
the church through intense theological disagreement,

00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:50.860
prioritizing global diplomatic engagement and

00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:53.530
environmental action. The narrative of Francis

00:43:53.530 --> 00:43:56.530
is compelling because of his humility. The accountant's

00:43:56.530 --> 00:43:59.010
son and former bouncer who insisted on paying

00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:01.909
his own hotel bill as pope. He consistently criticized

00:44:01.909 --> 00:44:04.869
economic systems built on pure greed, arguing

00:44:04.869 --> 00:44:07.610
that the true measure of a society is its care

00:44:07.610 --> 00:44:09.989
for the suffering. And that leads us to our final

00:44:09.989 --> 00:44:12.889
thought for you to explore. Francis often criticized

00:44:12.889 --> 00:44:15.389
systems of financial inequality and concentration

00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:18.530
of wealth. His final personal act, noted in the

00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:21.070
sources, was donating his entire personal wealth,

00:44:21.210 --> 00:44:24.730
about $200 ,000, to support a pasta -making project

00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:27.329
at a youth prison. So considering his dual experience

00:44:27.329 --> 00:44:29.849
managing bankruptcy in Buenos Aires and reforming

00:44:29.849 --> 00:44:32.369
the opaque Vatican Bank, what deeper systemic,

00:44:32.650 --> 00:44:35.489
economic or structural changes beyond simply

00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:38.849
reforming the Curia or supporting UBI might Francis

00:44:38.849 --> 00:44:41.050
have pursued if he had enjoyed an unimpeded longer

00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:43.349
papacy? Could he have attempted to fundamentally

00:44:43.349 --> 00:44:45.929
alter the church's own vast global financial

00:44:45.929 --> 00:44:48.630
holdings to align with his critiques of pure

00:44:48.630 --> 00:44:51.090
greed? That is something for you to mull or explore

00:44:51.090 --> 00:44:52.809
on your own. Thank you for joining us on The

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Deep Dive.
