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Welcome back to The Deep Dive. This is where

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we take the raw material of history, of music,

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of biography, and we crystallize it. Right. We

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do the heavy lifting. We rip through all the

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source materials you don't have to. We turn that

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information overload into pure insight. And our

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subject today, well, she demands that level of

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scrutiny. We're talking about Anna Mae Bullock.

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The woman who, of course, became Tina Turner.

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And she wasn't just the queen of rock and roll.

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That title almost feels too simple. She was this

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walking contradiction, a massive selling artist.

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I mean, the numbers are staggering, over 100

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million records globally. Exactly. But her personal

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story, that narrative of survival, it's so powerful

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that it's often the first thing people mention,

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sometimes even before her musical genius. OK,

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let's unpack that right away, because the accolades

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themselves, they tell a story of defiance, of

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just unmatched capability. They really do. When

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you look at her professional record, what's the

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first thing? that just jumps out at you. It's

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the cross -genre mastery. I mean, it is truly

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unique. Think about this incredible achievement

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for a moment. Tita Turner is the only female

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artist in history, ever, to win a Grammy Award

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in the pop, rock, and R &amp;B categories. All three.

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All three. She didn't just dabble in those genres.

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She absolutely conquered them, often at the same

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time. She was breaking down barriers that the

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music industry had, well, very strictly enforced

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back then. Right. That achievement alone just

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speaks volumes about her versatility, her ability

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to just transcend all those restrictive labels.

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And that duality, it extends to her institutional

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recognition, too. I mean, she's not just the

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legend. She's one of only two artists ever to

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be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Twice. Twice. First with Ike Turner and then

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later, triumphantly, as a solo artist. It's like

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her life had this necessary traumatic prologue

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and then this magnificent self -authored main

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event. And the one thing connecting those two

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phases, the reason she endured, was her voice.

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When critics talk about her legacy, they always

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come back to how she combined, and this is a

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great quote, the emotional force of the great

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blues singers with a sheer wallpaper -peeling

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power. Wow. Wallpaper peeling power. Yeah. It

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was just made for the age of amplification. It

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was raw, it was spiritual, and it was completely

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unstoppable. It carried the weight of her entire

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life in every single note. So that's our mission

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for this deep dive, to trace that journey from

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the cotton fields of Tennessee all the way to

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the quiet, self -chosen peace of Switzerland.

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And to understand the profound cost, but also

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the ultimate liberation of writing your own story.

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So where does that foundational voice even come

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from? The sources take us all the way back to

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1939 to a world that is just utterly removed

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from global superstardom. Right. The rural, segregated

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South. Yeah, Tennessee. Anna Mae Bullock was

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born near Brownsville, Tennessee, November 26,

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1939. But her childhood, the place she really

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grew up, was Nutbush. The place she later made

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famous in song. Exactly. And this wasn't some,

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you know, quaint little southern town. This was

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a deeply agricultural, often really hardscrabble

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environment in the 1940s. The sources really

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highlight how physical her upbringing was. Her

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father, Floyd Richard Bullock, he was an overseer

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of sharecroppers at a place called Poindexter

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Farm. And Anna Mae herself. She vividly remembered

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picking cotton with her family when she was just

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a little girl. That life, that immersion in hard

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agricultural labor, it was just woven into the

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fabric of her earliest existence. It adds such

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a powerful layer of contrast to the future queen

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of rock and roll, doesn't it? It really does.

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And that environment. was harsh. It's also interesting

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to note because identity was such a complex theme

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for her that while she grew up believing she

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had significant Native American ancestry, DNA

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testing later confirmed her heritage was predominantly

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African American. So she was navigating this

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complex identity from birth in a world that was

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already so racially stratified. But the biggest

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trauma of this early period wasn't the hard labor.

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It was the instability at home, this feeling

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of being fundamentally unwanted. Her home life

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just shattered. Her mother, Zelma, she left the

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family when Anna Mae was only 11. And the sources

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are very clear about why. Zelma was fleeing an

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abusive relationship with Floyd. And that abandonment

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by her mother. It was just psychologically shattering

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for a young girl. It created this core wound

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of rejection that would manifest later in her

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life. And the instability just continued. Two

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years after her mother left, her father also

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left the family, remarried, and moved to Detroit.

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She later recalled that her mother never really

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wanted another child and that she always felt

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like a burden. I mean, that's the root of the

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trauma that tragically underpinned her future,

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her drive, and eventually her attraction to these

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really volatile, controlling relationships. So

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she and her sisters, they were sort of shuffled

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around, eventually landing with their paternal

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grandparents, Alex and Roxanna Bullock. who were

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very strict, very religious. They were prominent

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figures in their community, a deacon and a deaconess

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at the Spring Hill Baptist Church. A rigid environment.

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Very rigid. But it gave her two critical things.

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One was a grounding in faith, and the other,

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crucially, was musical exposure. She sang in

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the church choir. But even then, the performer

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was already trying to get out. You can see that

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instinct in her childhood habit of singing and

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acting in the streets for spare change. Right.

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Not for food, specifically to go to the movies,

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to escape into those big, dramatic stories that

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offered a world so far beyond Nutbush. So we

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fast forward a few years. As a teenager, she's

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working as a domestic helper. And then at 16,

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her grandmother dies and she makes the big move

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to St. Louis to live with her mother. And that

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move from the rural South to a bustling city,

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it's this massive cultural shift. It shows her

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determination, her hustle. She gets a steady

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job as a nurse's aide at Barnes Jewish Hospital.

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She's trying to build a stable, working class

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life, a safe life. But life rarely grants safety

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that easily. She has her first major heartache

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with a popular boy named Harry Taylor, dated

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for a year. then found out he'd married someone

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else who was expecting his child. And then, almost

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immediately after, she meets Raymond Hill, a

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saxophonist for a band called the Kings of Rhythm.

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She becomes pregnant, gives birth to her first

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son, Raymond Craig Hill, in August of 1958. But

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then Hill breaks his ankle in a fight and leaves

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the band, and he's gone. So there she is. Still

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a young woman working a day job and now a single

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mother. And that context is so crucial for you,

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the listener, to understand. Anna Mae Bullock

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was already fighting for survival, working and

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raising a child long before she ever stepped

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on a stage as a professional singer. So the stage

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is set in St. Louis. She's a single parent. She's

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struggling financially, but she's drawn to the

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city's nightclub scene. She starts going to a

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place called Club Manhattan in East St. Louis.

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And that's where she sees him, Ike Turner and

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the Kings of Rhythm. She describes watching Ike

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play and feeling this powerful, almost hypnotic

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attraction. She said she almost went into a trance.

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He was magnetic, a controlling force, a band

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leader who just commanded the room. And she,

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carrying all that unresolved trauma of rejection,

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of being controlled by her father, she was just

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inexorably drawn right into his orbit. She kept

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asking to sing, right, but Ike just kept brushing

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her off. Yeah, he assumed she was just another

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hopeful groupie. But then, in 1956, during an

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intermission, she showed that powerful initiative

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that would define her entire career. She grabs

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the mic. Literally grabs the microphone from

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the drummer and just starts belting out the B

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.B. King ballad, You Know I Love You. And Ike's

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reaction. He was stunned, not just impressed,

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stunned by that sound, that sheer untamed power.

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He hired her immediately as a featured vocalist.

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And importantly, He took on the role of her musical

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mentor. He was the one who taught her, quote,

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the finer points of vocal control and performance.

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So he turned that raw talent into a disciplined,

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explosive instrument. Exactly. Her first recording,

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Box Stop, in 1958, she was just credited as Little

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Ann. But the huge shift, the moment Tina Turner

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is really born, happens around 1960. With a song

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called A Fool in Love. And it's really a story

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of accidental stardom. Ike had written it for

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a male singer, Art Lasseter, who, thankfully

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for music history, didn't show up to the recording

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session. So Anna Mae stepped in to sing the lead

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vocals just as a demo. It's filling in. And that

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demo lands on the desk of Juggie Murray, the

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head of Sue Records. And his reaction to her

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voice is just... Yeah. It's key to understanding

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her primal appeal. What did he say? He said she

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sounded like screaming dirt. It was a funky sound.

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Screaming dirt. Wow, that's a quote. Isn't it?

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It's so beautifully descriptive. It captures

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that raw, untamed, deeply soulful, almost vulgar

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energy that was just missing from mainstream

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music at the time. Murray knew immediately he

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had a star. So he insists Ike make her the front

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woman. And Ike, you know, seeing the huge financial

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opportunity, renames her Tina, inspired by Sheena,

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Queen of the Jungle. But here's the detail, the

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detail that is absolutely crucial to her entire

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life story, the moment the financial exploitation

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and psychological control really begins. This

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is it. because Ike immediately and legally trademarked

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the name Tina Turner. It's just, it's not just

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controlling, it's a deeply cynical piece of entrepreneurial

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genius. By trademarking the name, Ike guaranteed

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that if Anna Mae ever left him, which his other

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singers often did, he wouldn't lose the asset.

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He wouldn't lose the asset. He could literally

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just hire another woman and call her Tina Turner.

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The name, the brand. was legally his. It established

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in black and white that she was his professional

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property right from the very start. That's the

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very first chain she had to break. Absolutely.

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Incredible. And despite that deep structural

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control, the music they made was transcendent.

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A Fool in Love from 1960 was a huge hit. Number

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two on the R &amp;B chart, and it crossed over to

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number 27 on the pop charts, which was rare.

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Kurt Loder famously called it the blackest record

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to ever creep into the white pop charts since

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Ray Charles' What I Say. And that success immediately

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led to the Ike and Tina Turner Revue. Which was

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an organizational powerhouse. It had the Kings

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of Rhythm, the legendary girl group, the Ikeettes.

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And they built their reputation by relentlessly

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touring the Chitlin Circuit. And for our listeners,

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that was not a glamorous tour. It was a rigorous,

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often segregated network of venues that was the

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entire professional backbone of black entertainment.

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And Ike imposed a brutal schedule. I mean, sources

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mentioned performance stretches of nearly 90

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days straight, just driving hundreds of miles

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between towns. But that nonstop grind is what

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perfected their craft. It honed their live show

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into something unmatched. They became known for

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their explosive live performances, right? Rivaling

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the James Brown review. He did. Because they

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were such a huge draw, their success actually

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allowed them to play Before desegregated audiences

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in the South, which shows the power of their

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music to just transcend those rigid racial boundaries

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of the 1960s. And the hits kept coming. It's

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going to work out fine. And 61 got them a Grammy

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nomination. Yeah. And poor fool. Tra la la la.

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But they bounced around between like 10 different

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record labels in the 60s. Their reputation as

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a live act, though, just kept growing. The big

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attempt at mainstream pop dominance comes in

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1966. Thanks to the legendary producer Phil Spector.

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Right. The actor saw them perform and was so

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impressed, he actually bought Tina out of her

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contract with Loma for $20 ,000. Just so he could

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have complete creative control. Total creative

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control. He saw the resulting single, River Deep

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Mountain High, as his absolute masterpiece. He

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paired her raw power with his signature maximalist

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wall of sound. And that wall of sound is just

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this dense, overwhelming sonic presence. Her

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voice had to be powerful enough to cut through

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all of it. It was. But here's that duality again

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that defines her whole career. The song was a

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colossal flop in the U .S., peaked at number

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88. But overseas. An international smash, number

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three in the U .K., number one in Spain. And

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that U .S. failure, it's been debated for decades.

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Was America not ready for a black woman singing

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that kind of aggressive operatic rock? Or was

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it Spector's production? Or just pure racial

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bias? Who knows? But whatever the reason, that

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international success established this deep European

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appreciation for her talent that laid the groundwork

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for everything that came later. Culturally, though,

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she was breaking ground. November 1967, Tina

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Turner becomes the first female artist and the

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first black artist on the cover of Rolling Stone

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magazine. Which is just a foundational... barrier

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-breaking moment in rock history is huge. And

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then rock royalty embraced them. The Rolling

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Stones had them open their tours in the UK and

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the US. That raised their profile immensely.

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By 1970, with albums like Come Together, they

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were fully incorporating rock tunes into their

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set. Honky -tonk women, get back! They were officially

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crossing over, from an R &amp;B review to rock legends.

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And the culmination of that was their cover of

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Credence Clearwater Revival's Proud Mary in 1971.

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Their biggest hit. A Million Seller, hit number

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four on the Hot 100, and won the Grammy for Best

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R &amp;B Performance. They were professionally unstoppable.

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And what's so fascinating is how Tina completely

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redefined that song. Her arrangements start slow,

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it's conversational, and then it just erupts

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into that signature high -energy rock breakdown.

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It encapsulated their entire live experience

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in one track. And we have to mention her own

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songwriting. She wrote the 1973 international

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hit Nutbush City Limits. A direct callback to

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her rural roots. And that song was huge. Number

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one in Austria, number four in the UK. The sales

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were so extraordinary, they earned the very first

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Golden European Record Award for selling over

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a million copies in Europe. It's just so resonant

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that the song about the poverty of Anna Mae Bullock

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is what cemented the global financial power of

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Tina Turner. Exactly. And her visibility just

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kept soaring. She's in the rock opera Tommy in

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75 playing the acid queen. Her performance was

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critically acclaimed. So the global stage was

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set for superstardom. But behind the scenes,

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the marriage was just collapsing spectacularly.

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The professional machine was running parallel

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to a catastrophic personal life. Ike's cocaine

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addiction became deeply entrenched, and it just

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worsened the existing pattern of domestic violence

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and infidelity, which she later detailed in her

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autobiography, I, Tina. And it all reached this

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dramatic, desperate breaking point on July 1st,

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1976. After a brutal physical fight in the car

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on the way to a gig in Dallas, Tina ran. She

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literally fled across a freeway. I mean, can

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you imagine? The risk, the sheer terror she must

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have felt to make that break so violently. She

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had nothing. 36 cents? 36 cents in cash and a

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mobile credit card. She left the controlling

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husband, the career, the money. She left everything

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and took only her name and her will to survive.

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That's the definition of a desperate escape.

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It is. She filed for divorce later that month.

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And when you look at the settlement terms, they

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are an incredible testament to her priorities.

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Right. Because Ike was seeking a massive financial

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settlement. But Tina waived all of it. No alimony,

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no child support, except for their sons. In exchange

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for her freedom, she took on crippling debt.

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She took responsibility for an IRS tax land and

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for missed tour dates. And the single asset she

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insisted on keeping. The stage name, Tina Turner.

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The very brand Ike had trademarked to control

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her. She chose the brand over financial stability,

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over immediate comfort. And that decision forced

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her to play small cabaret clubs and rely on food

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stamps for almost two years just to pay off those

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debts. The distance between the queen of rock

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and roll and her lived reality at that time was

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immense. But she bet everything on that name.

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And that bet is what fueled the greatest comeback

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in rock history. She won her freedom. But yeah,

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it came with a price tag of absolute financial

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ruin. Those early solo years from 76 to 83 are

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just a monumental grind. She was trying to redefine

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herself when the industry pretty much saw her

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as yesterday's news. The struggle was so intense.

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At first, she was earning money from any TV appearance

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she could get. You know, the Hollywood Squares,

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the Brady Bunch hours. Just to pay the bills.

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Exactly. Performing to pay off debts, headlining

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cabaret shows in Vegas, often in these elaborate

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Bob Mackie costumes. But musically, nothing was

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working. Her first solo albums, Rough and Love

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Explosion, they failed completely. United Artists

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dropped her. For years, she was harshly seen

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by the mainstream as just a nostalgia act. The

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pivotal moment comes in 1979. And Australian

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manager Roger Davies sees her perform at the

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Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco. And Davies,

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crucially, he saw past the cabaret setting. He

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recognized the raw power she still had. He agreed

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to manage her and he became the shrewd architect

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of her second act. So Davies focused on strategic

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exposure. He got her that high profile opening

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slot on the Rolling Stones 1981 American Tool.

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And her 82 cover of Ball of Confusion, produced

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by a British team, became a massive European

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dance hit. Which led to her becoming one of the

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very first black American artists to have a music

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video on the brand new and increasingly crucial

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MTV. That was vital. It exposed her powerful

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image, the hair, the legs, the fashion to a whole

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new young international audience. It set the

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table. So here's where the legend really starts

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to catch fire. 1983, she signs with Capitol Records.

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They give her a small budget and she puts out

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a cover single. Al Green's Let's Stay Together.

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And the success was just an absolute surprise.

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Hit number six in the UK and critically number

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one on the U .S. Hot Dance Club Songs chart.

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That single success convinced Capitol to greenlight

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a full album. That album was Private Dancer,

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and the sources say it was recorded in an astonishingly

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quick two weeks. Just pieced together with different

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producers in London, it was risky, but the album

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was a masterpiece that just perfectly captured

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the 80s sound. with her blues and rock grit.

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Released in 1984, it soared to number three on

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the Billboard 200, sold over 10 million copies

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worldwide. It was the ultimate vindication, and

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its second single defined the entire era. What's

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love got to do with it? In September 1984, at

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the age of 44, it became her first and only number

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one hit on the Billboard Hot 100. You have to

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step back and just appreciate the magnitude of

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that. A woman achieving the pinnacle of American

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solo success decades into her career after leaving

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an abusive marriage that almost destroyed her.

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The victory was cemented at the Grammy Awards.

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She didn't just win. She swept three major awards,

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including Record of the Year. This was more than

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a comeback. It was a total professional and cultural

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reset. And beyond the charts, her image became

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a global force. David Bowie collaborated with

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her. Karl Lagerfeld was obsessed with her, putting

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models in those iconic Tina Turner wigs. Her

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whole visual presentation, the short skirts,

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the famous legs, the towering hair, it was all

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about unapologetic strength and glamour. Which

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vaulted her straight into Hollywood. In 1985,

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she starred opposite Mel Gibson in Mad Max Beyond

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Thunderdome. Playing the glamorous, menacing

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villain, Anti -Entity. And she had really positive

00:19:11.309 --> 00:19:14.009
reviews for her acting. The film was a huge success.

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And her two soundtrack songs, We Don't Need Another

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Hero and One of Living, were massive hits. The

00:19:20.829 --> 00:19:23.369
latter won her a Grammy for Best Female Rock

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Vocal Performance. And at that point, she'd done

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it. She had achieved the unprecedented trio of

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Grammys across R &amp;B, pop, and rock. And who can

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forget that Live Aid performance in July 85 with

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Mick Jagger? The sheer chaotic energy of that

00:19:35.750 --> 00:19:38.170
moment with Jagger ripping off her skirt, it

00:19:38.170 --> 00:19:40.970
captivated the whole world. It was pure, unscripted

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rock theater. So by 1986, she releases Break

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Every Rule, number one in four countries. The

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tour for that album became the highest grossing

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tour by a female artist of the 1980s. She truly

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broke global records on that tour. When she played

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in Rio de Janeiro in January 1988, she set a

00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:01.759
Guinness World Record for the largest paying

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audience for a solo artist. 180 ,000 people.

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Just think about the scale of that. The ability

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to command an audience that size in a single

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night. Her global dominance just continued. The

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1989 album Foreign Affair, number one in eight

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countries, had the massive international hit

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The Best. And this reinforced her own observation

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that her fame was perhaps even greater overseas

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than it was in America. Oh, absolutely. The European

00:20:25.980 --> 00:20:28.240
tour for that album drew nearly four million

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people. It broke the touring record previously

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held by the Rolling Stones. She was now competing

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with and beating the biggest rock acts in history.

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The accolades just kept piling up. In 1991, she

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and Ike were inducted into the Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame as a duo. But Tina, citing emotional

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reasons, specifically chose not to attend the

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ceremony. Ike was incarcerated at the time. Her

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absence was a deliberate, profound statement.

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she acknowledged the history but she refused

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to participate in celebrating the relationship

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that almost ended her and that desire to control

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her narrative became even stronger with the release

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of the film what's love got to do with it in

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1993. That film was a huge success. Angela Bassett

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and Laurence Fishburne both got Oscar nominations,

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and it allowed her to really finalize the narrative

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arc of her life for a global audience. Right.

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And she contributed to the soundtrack, re -recording

00:21:18.859 --> 00:21:20.640
her classic hits and releasing the new song,

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I Don't Want to Fight, which is a top 10 hit.

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It offered a kind of musical conclusion to that

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whole era. And she kept dominating the late 90s.

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The iconic Bond -themed Goldeneye in 95. Her

00:21:31.589 --> 00:21:34.029
Wildest Dreams tour was the first tour by a woman

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to earn $100 million. Her final full album, 24

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-7, came out in 1999. The tour for that in 2000

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was the highest grossing tour of that year. And

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at the end of that tour in Zurich, she announced

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her retirement from performing. She did have

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a brief comeback, performing with Beyonce at

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the 2008 Grammys and doing the 50th anniversary

00:21:53.660 --> 00:21:55.519
tour, which was one of the best selling tours

00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:58.319
in history. But she officially retired from performing

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in 2009. And just to prove her staggering chart

00:22:01.819 --> 00:22:05.670
longevity, even in retirement. In 2020, she collaborated

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on a remix of What's Love Got To Do With It.

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With a Kygo. Right. And she became the first

00:22:10.269 --> 00:22:12.970
artist ever to score a top 40 hit in seven consecutive

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decades in the UK. Seven decades, from the 1960s

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to the 2020s. It's an unparalleled career span.

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And fittingly, she got her solo induction into

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the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2021, accepting

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via satellite from her home in Switzerland. Finalizing

00:22:27.710 --> 00:22:30.549
that narrative shift from duo member to undisputed

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self -possessed solo legend. The final chapter

00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:35.019
of her life, starting in the 90s, it's really

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defined by this absolute search for peace and

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privacy. Which led her to Kussnacht, Switzerland.

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Far away from the pressures and the spotlight

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of her career's roots. Yeah. She started living

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at Chateau Algonquin on the shore of Lake Zurich

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back in 1994. And while she had properties all

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over, Switzerland offered her something she'd

00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:57.339
never really had in the U .S. Discretion, privacy,

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and a deep sense of security. The ultimate commitment

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came in 2013. She took a mandatory citizenship

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test in German about Swiss history and was granted

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Swiss citizenship. And she didn't stop there.

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She formally renounced her U .S. citizenship

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later that year, which is just a deeply significant

00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:17.930
decision for an American icon. Her stated reason

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was crucial. She said she no longer had any strong

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connections to the United States and had no plans

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to live there. It was a decisive, active break

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from the country where she was born and where

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she'd endured so much trauma. This chosen home

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also brought her enduring romantic happiness.

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In July 2013, after 27 years together, she married

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the German music executive Erwin Bach. Their

00:23:39.190 --> 00:23:41.130
relationship really represented the stability

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and deep emotional support that she had always

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craved. Tragically, though, this period of peace

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was just ravaged by intense health battles, which

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she detailed so unflinchingly in her 2018 memoir,

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My Love Story. She revealed she suffered from

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high blood pressure, mostly untreated since 1978,

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which had severely damaged her kidneys. And the

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trials just came one after another. Three weeks

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after her wedding in 2013, she had a stroke and

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had to learn how to walk all over again. In 2016,

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she was diagnosed with intestinal cancer. And

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she revealed this terrifying near -fatal event

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with her kidneys. She tried homeopathic remedies,

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which tragically worsened her condition to the

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point of catastrophic failure. Her prognosis

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was so poor she actually joined Exit International,

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an assisted suicide organization that's legal

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in Switzerland. She was preparing for the end.

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And here's the most profound testament to the

00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:34.950
love of Erwin Bach. When her chances of getting

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a kidney transplant were critically low, he volunteered

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without hesitation to donate one of his own.

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It's the ultimate gesture of selfless devotion,

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isn't it? A woman who was treated as property

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and abused was saved by the man who loved her

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unconditionally, sacrificing a part of himself

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to save her. She had the life -saving transplant

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surgery in April 2017. Unfortunately, even as

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her own health stabilized, the personal tragedies

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just kept coming. She faced the heartbreaking

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loss of her two biological sons in quick succession.

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Her eldest son, Craig, died by apparent suicide

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in 2018. Then her son, Ronnie, died from complications

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of colon cancer in 2022. And her adopted son,

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Ike Jr., died from kidney failure just in 2023.

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I mean, that string of profound losses in her

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final years really highlights that the narrative

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of the survivor often means just enduring continued

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pain. But central to her resilience through all

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of these trials was her deep spiritual practice.

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Though she was raised Baptist, she often called

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herself a Buddhist Baptist. Right, though later

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she just said, I consider myself a Buddhist.

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She credited Nichiren Buddhism, which she was

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introduced to back in 1973 while she was still

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with Ike, with helping her through the hardest

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times. And the practice itself, the chanting

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of Nami Shrenkaj, it was therapeutic for her.

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She famously likened the chanting to singing.

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And she sometimes practiced for up to four hours

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a day during her deepest struggles. believe the

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practice helped her realize her own internal

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strength, giving her the courage to finally break

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free from Ike. This commitment to spiritual upliftment,

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it manifested in her later projects. In 2009,

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she co -founded the Beyond Foundation and released

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several albums of spiritual and uplifting music.

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It was a final artistic offering that was focused

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entirely on peace and internal strength, not

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performance spectacle. Her final years saw massive

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tributes. She passed away on May 24th, 2023 in

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Kusnock, Switzerland at age 83. And the tributes

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were just global. From Beyonce. Oprah, Mick Jagger,

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President Biden. And that profoundly unique gesture

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by King Charles III, having the best perform

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during the changing of the guard, it just underscores

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that she had transcended pop stardom. She was

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a global figurehead for resilience. Her legacy

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is absolutely secure. Rolling Stone ranked her

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among the greatest artists and singers of all

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time. She still holds the shared record for most

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awards for best female rock vocal performance.

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And three of her most iconic recordings, Riverdeep.

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Proud Mary, and her ultimate victory track, What's

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Love Got to Do With It, are all preserved in

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the Grammy Hall of Fame. Beyond the charts, her

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cultural impact is indelible. The Kennedy Center

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Honors in 2005, Tennessee named a state route

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the Tina Turner Highway. And in a fitting modern

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tribute, Mattel released a Barbie doll in her

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likeness in 2022. She truly became an immortal

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symbol of power. So what stands out when we look

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back across all these decades of sources is that

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unbelievable journey from being a piece of intellectual

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property. Literally trademarked so she could

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be replaced. To becoming the self -owned, self

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-directed global phenomenon. She was a cultural

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force who just redefined what was possible for

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a woman, especially a black woman, in rock and

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roll. All while carrying the mantle of the ultimate

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survivor. And her fame, particularly in Europe,

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was just staggering. And that narrative of ultimate

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choice, it's all crystallized in her final decision.

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After achieving the absolute pinnacle of fame,

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she actively and willingly renounced her U .S.

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citizenship to fully embrace Swiss life. Stating

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she had no strong connections left to the U .S.

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So what does it all mean? She was the queen of

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rock and roll, born in the raw country soil of

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Nutbush, Tennessee. Yet she found her truest

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peace not under the American spotlight that both

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created and traumatized her, but in the quiet

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diplomacy and protection of Switzerland. So the

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provocative thought we want to leave you with

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builds on that final act of liberation. What

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does it truly take for a person, defined by a

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lifetime of struggle and the painful geography

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of their origins, not just to survive that history,

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but to actively choose where they belong? to

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decide that peace and self -authorship are worth

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more than the identity tied to their traumatic

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roots. She chose her final home, not by birthright,

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but by choice. That is the ultimate act of liberation.

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Think about the power in choosing your own safe

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harbor. Until the next time we do a deep dive,

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thanks for listening.
