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Welcome back to The Deep Dive, the show engineered

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to transform vast stacks of articles, research,

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and data into the clearest, most relevant insights

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for you. Today, we are undertaking a deep dive

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into the intellectual architect of, really, the

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modern free market movement, Milton Friedman.

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We are. We're looking at the life and the seismic

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career of the Nobel laureate statistician and

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the leader of the Chicago School of Economics.

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He lived from 1912 to 2006. And when a publication

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like The Economist calls you the most influential

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economist of the second half of the 20th century.

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His ideas weren't just academic. No, not at all.

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They were like the operating system for entire

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national economies. His policy blueprints, for

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better or for worse, really defined global political

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economies from the 1980s right on through today.

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So our mission today is to... to really synthesize

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the core nuggets of knowledge from all the sources

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you've shared, recovering his life, his really

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revolutionary academic theories, his often radical

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policy proposals, and his complex, truly global

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legacy. Right. We want to go beyond the Wikipedia

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entry. Exactly. We need to understand the philosophical

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machinery that was driving his thought. And that

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means we're tracing his whole path from, you

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know, a depression era, public servant, all the

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way to becoming the ultimate anti -Keynesian

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academic. We'll get into key concepts like consumption

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smoothing, the permanent income hypothesis. His

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famous monetary explanation of the Great Depression,

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the whole discipline of monetarism, and, of course,

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how his ideas became, well, almost gospel for

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leaders like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

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It's a massive intellectual project. So let's

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unhack this and start right at the beginning.

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Let's do it. Friedman's early life, it doesn't

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really suggest a future as this, you know, economic

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revolutionary who's rubbing elbows with presidents

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and prime ministers. Not at all. He was born

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in Brooklyn in 1912. His parents were Jewish

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working class immigrants who had fled persecution

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in what is now Ukraine. And the family eventually

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settled in Rahway, New Jersey. Right. And this

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background is so crucial because it really informs

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his whole worldview. He had this deep belief

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in the power of free enterprise and education

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as the only real path to upward mobility. He

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was a brilliant student, too. Graduated high

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school just before his 16th birthday. Yeah, a

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prodigy. And he was the first in his family to

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go to university. He went to Rutgers. And here's

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the key thing. He wasn't originally planning

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on economics? No. His passion was mathematics,

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statistics. He was planning to be an actuary.

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But timing, as always, is everything. He graduates

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right into the absolute depths of the Great Depression.

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And that economic catastrophe just convinced

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him that, you know, mathematics was a tool, but

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economics was the field where he could actually

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address the most profound societal issues of

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his time. So he chose to pursue a Master of Arts

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at the University of Chicago. which was even

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then this crucible for anti -interventionist

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thought. That experience in 1933, that must have

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been incredibly formative. Oh, absolutely. He

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studied under these titans, you know, people

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like Jacob Viner, who was an early advocate for

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free trade, and Frank Knight, who really emphasized

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skepticism of government planning. He did his

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Ph .D. at Columbia later on in 46. He did. But

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that rigorous, almost philosophical anti -interventionist

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methodology of the early Chicago school that

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just stuck with him. It became his intellectual

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bedrock for life. So before he became the world's

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most famous critic of government overreach, he

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actually. he worked for the government during

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the New Deal. This is a chapter of his life people

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often forget. They do, and it's vital context.

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In 1935, I mean... academic jobs were just non

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-existent. So he went to Washington, D .C. And

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worked for the National Resources Planning Board,

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the NBER. Right. And he described those job creation

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programs, the WPA, the CCC, the Public Works

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Administration. He called them a lifesaver for

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young, unemployed economists like himself. So

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that shows a sort of, you know, pragmatic acceptance

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of government action during a crisis, at least

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initially. for sure but his core principles against

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meddling in the market were already there especially

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when it came to price controls right so while

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he saw the value in you know creating jobs He

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strongly objected to the price and wage fixing

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parts of the New Deal. Things like the National

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Recovery Administration, the NRA, or the Agricultural

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Adjustment Administration. Exactly. He didn't

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see those as helping the economy. He saw them

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as actively destroying the essential signaling

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mechanisms of the market. You know, the idea

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that prices and wages need to be free to adjust

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to allocate resources. That's a really important

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thread. That opposition to price fixing, it runs

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straight through his entire career. All the way

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up to his later opposition to the minimum wage.

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It's perfectly consistent. Okay, so here's where

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the real irony comes in. The best anecdote in

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the source material, I think. During World War

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II, from 41 to 43, he's at the Treasury Department.

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Yes, working on tax policy to fund the war effort.

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And what does he do? He helps design and implement

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the payroll withholding tax system. The very

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system. The man who spent his life arguing against

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government expansion invents the tool that allows

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the modern, overgrown administrative state to

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fund itself so easily. It's incredible, isn't

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it? Before this, you know, people were supposed

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to pay their income taxes in one big lump sum.

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Which I'm sure led to all sorts of problems.

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Oh, yeah. Noncompliance. financial distress,

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the withholding system made tax collection smooth,

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automatic, and mandatory. He must have reflected

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on that later. He did. Friedman wrote in his

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memoirs that his wife, Rose, would frequently

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remind him, you know, with a smile, that he was

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the one responsible for making possible the current

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overgrown government we both criticize so strongly.

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That's amazing. What a lesson in how a crisis

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like a war can create these permanent infrastructures

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for state power. It's a perfect example. Political

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necessity just overrides philosophical principle.

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So the war is over. He's got his Ph .D. And in

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1946, he goes back to the University of Chicago.

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Yes. This is the definitive moment. He takes

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over the prestigious chair left vacant by Jacob

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Viner. And this is the launch of what we now

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know as the modern Chicago school. And for 30

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years, he wasn't just teaching economics. No,

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he was cultivating an entire intellectual ecology.

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It was all about methodological rigor, free market

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conviction and just fierce, fierce debate. And

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that environment, I mean. It produced so much

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talent. A remarkable concentration of it. He

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mentored future Nobel laureates like Gary Becker,

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Robert Fogel, Robert Lucas Jr. This wasn't just

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a department. It was like an intellectual forge

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that was training the policymakers of the future.

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And before we dive into his big economic theories,

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we should just briefly touch on his pure statistical

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genius. People often overlook this. They do.

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During the war, he was at the Division of War

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Research at Columbia, and he contributed to developing

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something called... Sequential sampling. Sequential

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sampling. What is that exactly? Well, it's a

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brilliant example of taking a core economic idea

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cost benefit analysis and applying it to a completely

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different problem. So instead of inspecting,

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say, a fixed number of widgets, like a hundred

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of them, and then making a decision, sequential

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sampling let engineers inspect them one by one.

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And they can make a decision at any point. Exactly.

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Based on the cumulative data, you could decide

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to accept the batch, reject it, or just keep

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sampling. It made quality control so... much

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more efficient. I see. So you don't waste time

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inspecting all 100 if the first 10 are already

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showing a major problem. Precisely. It became

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the standard technique for quality control in

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modern manufacturing. Saved immense amounts of

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time and resources. It just shows his intellectual

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breadth. All right. So let's shift focus from

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the forge to the heavy artillery. The theoretical

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work he developed, almost all of which was designed

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to challenge the prevailing Keynesian orthodoxy

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of the post -war era. And he started by challenging

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the most fundamental piece of macroeconomic modeling,

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consumption. Right. In the 50s, the Keynesian

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model was all about how consumption changes directly

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with your current income. Exactly. And that formed

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the basis for using fiscal policy, you know,

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like temporary tax cuts, to try and find... And

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Friedman just threw a giant wrench into that

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machine with his 1957 book and the introduction

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of the permanent income hypothesis. Let's really

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unpack this. What's the difference between current

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income and permanent income? It's a really profound

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shift in perspective. Friedman argued that consumers

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aren't short -sighted. They don't just look at

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their immediate paycheck. So they're planning

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for the future. Right. They base their spending

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not on their existing income, but on their permanent

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income, which is their long -term average expected

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income over their entire lifetime. Including

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things like... the value of their skills and

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education. Exactly, their human capital. So consumption

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is based on the expectation of what you will

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earn, not just what you did earn this month.

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So the permanent income hypothesis, or PIH, it

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distinguishes between permanent income and transitory

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income. Correct. So if you get a temporary transitory

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income shock like a one time government stimulus

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check or a Sutter unexpected bonus, Friedman

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predicted you wouldn't just go out and radically

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alter your lifestyle. Why not? Because you know

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it won't last. The consumer practices what he

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called consumption smoothing. You want your level

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of consumption to stay relatively stable throughout

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your life, even if your income fluctuates wildly.

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So you'd save most of that windfall. You'd save

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or invest. The vast majority of it. to sustain

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your consumption during leaner periods rather

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than just spending it all immediately. This has

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huge implications for policymakers, doesn't it?

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Massive. If the government tries to boost the

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economy with a temporary tax rebate, the PIH

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suggests that policy is going to be largely ineffective.

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Because people will just save it. Exactly. It

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casts serious doubt on the effectiveness of temporary

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fiscal stimulus, which is a core Keynesian tool.

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Friedman himself actually considered the PIH

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his best scientific work. Okay, let's move to

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his most famous and maybe most politically charged

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academic contribution, his monetary explanation

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of the Great Depression. This was in the seminal

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1963 work, A Monetary History of the United States,

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which he co -authored with Anna Schwartz. And

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this book didn't just analyze history. It completely

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rewrote the narrative of the 1930s. It did. The

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traditional view was that the Depression was

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this inherent, inevitable failure of capitalism,

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and it needed massive government intervention

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to fix it. Friedman and Schwartz just flipped

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that script completely. They even renamed the

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period the Great Contraction. And their core...

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thesis was that the free market was innocent.

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The real culprit was government policy. Specifically,

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the Federal Reserve. They marshaled just a mountain

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of historical evidence showing that the money

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supply in the U .S. plunged by a shocking one

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third between 1929 and 1933. A third. Yeah. And

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they argued that the Fed, through inaction, through

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misguided policy, through its failure to provide

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liquidity during the banking panics, actively

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caused that contraction to spiral into a full

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-blown depression. You called it a tragic failure

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of government. Not a failure of the system itself.

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And this thesis was so persuasive, so intellectually

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disruptive, that it ultimately changed central

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banking practice around the world. Which brings

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us to that incredible moment in 2002. The famous

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mea culpa. The then Federal Reserve Governor

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Ben Bernanke, who was a scholar of the Depression

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himself, publicly addressed Friedman at his 90th

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birthday party. And what did he say? He basically

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acknowledged the debt the modern Fed owed to

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Friedman's work. He said, regarding the Great

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Depression, you're right. We did it. We're very

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sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.

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That's a formal surrender of the intellectual

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high ground. An incredible moment. It is. It's

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cemented the idea that central banks have to

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be aggressive with monetary expansion during

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a crisis. We saw that in 2008. We saw it again

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during the COVID crisis. But there is a nuance

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here, a criticism of Friedman's theory that's

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still debated today. There is. And it's really

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important. The whole thesis rests on the assumption

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that the drop in the money supply was exogenous.

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Meaning it was a deliberate failure of the central

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bank pushing the money supply down. Right. And

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critics, you know, economists like Peter Temin

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and later Paul Krugman, they challenged this.

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They argued that in a severe recession, the central

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bank actually loses control. So the money supply

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contraction is endogenous. Exactly. It's caused

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by a collapse in credit demand and just widespread

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fear in the banking system. Friedman saw the

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Fed as actively draining the water. The critics

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argued that the commercial banks and consumers

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just stopped pumping the water themselves out

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of fear. And the Fed was helpless to refill the

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reservoir. That's the core of the criticism.

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Krugman pointed to 2008, where central banks

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aggressively lowered rates, but credit growth

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was still stagnant for a while. The debate about

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whether the Fed could have avoided the depression

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is, let's just say, it's still very much alive.

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That's fascinating. OK, so moving on. Friedman

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also basically defined the entire philosophical

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approach of the Chicago School in his 1953 essay,

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The Methodology of Positive Economics. This is

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the epistemological rulebook. It's dense, but

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it's absolutely vital. Friedman argued that economics,

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if it's going to be a positive science concerned

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with what is not what ought to be, it must be

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judged purely by its predictive power. So forget

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about whether the assumptions are realistic.

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Exactly. He argued that a theory should be judged

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by its predictive fruitfulness and its simplicity,

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not by the descriptive realism of its underlying

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assumptions. So he gave the Chicago School permission

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to use assumptions, like perfect rationality

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or perfect information, even though they knew

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those things weren't true in the real world.

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Right, because instrumentally, they work. He

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used an analogy from physics. A physicist calculating

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a bullet's trajectory doesn't calculate every

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single air molecule it hits. They assume a vacuum

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or simplified drag. The assumption is false,

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but the prediction is accurate enough. Precisely.

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And Friedman argued the same for economics. If

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assuming people are perfectly rational delivers

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a simple model that accurately predicts market

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outcomes, then you should use it. Don't worry

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about the ingredients. Judge the cake. That's

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a powerful idea. It really justifies the use

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of these simple, idealized free market models.

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It does. Even if their view of human behavior

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was, you know, a bit simplified. So this theoretical

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work on consumption and the depression, it really

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paves the way for Friedman to lay out a complete

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policy system. He becomes the chief proponent

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of monetarism. Right. And monetarism is essentially

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a revival of the quantity theory of money, a

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very classical idea. It basically states that

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the money supply is the primary determinant of

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inflation and in the short run of nominal output.

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For him, economics was about controlling the

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money supply. Everything else was secondary.

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It was, which leads to his most famous catchphrase

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about inflation. Inflation is always and everywhere

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a monetary phenomenon. That's the one. It was

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a powerful, direct rejection of the prevailing

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orthodoxy that blamed inflation on other factors,

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like supply shocks. So if the price of oil triples

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because of a geopolitical crisis, the Keynesians

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might call that cost -push inflation. What would

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Friedman say? He'd argue that while a specific

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price, like oil, might go up, Generalized, sustained

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inflation across all goods and services can only

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happen if the money supply expands to accommodate

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those higher prices. So without more money in

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the system, a higher oil price just means people

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have less to spend on other things and those

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other prices would have to fall. Exactly. He

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used that great analogy of dropping money out

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of a helicopter to explain it. When you inject

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new money into the system, you have more cash

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chasing the same number of goods and that universally

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raises prices. This deep conviction. that the

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central bank was the sole source of inflation

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led to his most radical proposal. Getting rid

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of the Fed entirely. Abolish the Fed. His distrust

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of discretionary government power was absolute.

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He believed the Fed's constant attempts to fine

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tune the economy, guided by human judgment and

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political pressure, just led to unpredictable,

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harmful changes in the money supply. He felt

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it had done more harm than good. But wait a second,

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isn't abolishing the Fed and replacing it with

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a rigid, government -mandated computer program

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the ultimate form of centralized state intervention?

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That seems to contradict his minimal government

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stance. That's a fantastic question, and it really

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gets to the nuance of his libertarianism. Friedman

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made a distinction between government action

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that creates a stable framework for the market,

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a neutral rule of law and government action that

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interferes with market signals. And the key percent

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rule was a framework rule. Exactly. It was designed

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to be a mechanism that once you set it, it just

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operates automatically. It eliminates human political

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interference and the subjective judgments that

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he thought caused all the volatility. So tell

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us about this K percent rule. He proposed replacing

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the Fed with a quasi automatic monetary policy,

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basically an algorithm that would just grow the

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money supply at a steady predetermined rate,

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maybe 4 percent or 5 percent per year, regardless

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of the economic cycle. The goal being to eliminate

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human error and political pressure. Completely.

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To make policy shocks predictable or rather to

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eliminate them entirely. But the sources also

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mention an even more radical ideal he had. They

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do. That was the 1930s Chicago plan for 100 %

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reserve banking. Which means? It would end fractional

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reserve banking. Commercial banks could no longer

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create new money by expending loans. The power

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of money creation would rest solely with the

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government. Which would make implementing the

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key percent rule much easier. Much easier, cleaner,

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more reliable. It just shows his ideal. Money

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creation should be mechanical, stable, and totally

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predictable, not a source of private profit or

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central bank discretion. Beyond domestic money,

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Friedman was also a revolutionary thinker in

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international finance. Oh, yeah. He was a very

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strong, very early advocate for freely floating

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exchange rates. He articulated this in a powerful

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essay back in 1953. And at the time, fixed exchange

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rates were the norm. They were linked to the

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dollar or gold. Friedman argued fixed rates were

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just another form of undesired. And floating

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rates were superior because they allowed for

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automatic adjustment. Exactly. If a country runs

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a trade deficit, its currency depreciates. That

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automatically makes its exports cheaper and its

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imports more expensive, which helps correct the

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imbalance without painful domestic policies like

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jacking up interest rates or causing a recession.

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And finally. We have to cover his most profound

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theoretical challenge to Keynesian macroeconomics,

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his assault on the Phillips curve. Right. The

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original Phillips curve suggested there was a

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stable menu of options. A government could choose

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to accept a little more inflation in exchange

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for permanently lower unemployment. A tradeoff.

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A tradeoff. And Friedman, working at the same

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time as Edmund Phelps, just demolished this idea

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in 1968. He introduced the concept of the natural

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rate of unemployment. Or NARU. Right. The non

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-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment.

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His revolutionary insight was that it was all

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about expectations. The tradeoff was only temporary.

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Only temporary. The government can only lower

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unemployment below that natural rate by using

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surprise inflation. You pump money into the economy,

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nominal wages rise. And for a moment, workers

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think their real wage has gone up, so they supply

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more labor. But then they catch on. They catch

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on. Once workers realize inflation is eroding

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their purchasing power, they demand higher wages.

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In the long run, the stimulus just makes inflation

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accelerate while unemployment creeps back up

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to its natural rate. And this explained the one

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thing Keynesian models couldn't. Stagflation.

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The coexistence of high inflation and high unemployment

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that just plagued the 1970s. It was the ultimate

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vindication of Friedman's theory. A huge intellectual

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victory. It was. He proved there is no long -term

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trade -off. Trying to run the economy hot with

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inflation is like giving it a sugar rush. It

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works for a minute, but then the system demands

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more and more sugar just to maintain the same

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speed. All right, so let's move from theory to

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application. His policy roadmap laid out in his

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1962 manifesto, Capitalism and Freedom. A book

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that sold well over half a million copies and

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became the ideological touchstone for generations

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of classical liberals. And this book established

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his vision for a radically minimal state. He

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saw this direct, inseparable link between economic

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freedom and political freedom. For him, government

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intervention should be strictly limited to just

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the essential functions. Protecting the nation

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from foreign enemies and protecting citizens

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from each other. So defense and the enforcement

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of contracts. That's it. Everything else should

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be done privately. He wasn't just arguing for

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smaller government. He was arguing for a fundamentally

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re -engineered one. Challenging basically every

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area of state involvement. His critique was all

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about efficiency and liberty. If a service could

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be provided by the private sector, it should

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be. And the government should never prohibit

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private competition. He always used the Postal

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Service as his example. And to show how consistent

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he was, he took aim at some pretty sacred institutions.

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He did. He controversially suggested that places

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like Yellowstone National Park should be sold

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for private development. Wow. Now, he wasn't

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necessarily anti -conservation. He just believed

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that market mechanisms, private incentives, fee

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structures, the profit motive, would lead to

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a more efficient and better maintained resource

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than a government bureaucracy would. It just

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shows how far he was willing to take the principle.

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To its logical conclusion. Okay. Shifting to

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social policy. This is where he proposed the

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massive replacement for the entire welfare state,

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the negative income tax. The NIT. Yeah. His most

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famous policy proposal for poverty alleviation.

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It was designed to be simple, efficient, and

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consistent with market incentives. It's essentially

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a reverse tax. That's a great way to put it.

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A single unified system. If your income falls

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below a certain threshold, the government sends

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you a cash payment. And what were the advantages

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over the existing patchwork of programs like

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food stamps and housing subsidies? He cited four

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big ones. First, it's directed specifically at

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poverty. Second, it provides help in the most

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useful form, which is cash, giving the individual

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maximum choice. Right, not dictating what they

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can buy. Third, it drastically reduces the administrative

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burden because it just piggybacks on the existing

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tax system. And fourth, and this is... Crucial

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for him, it preserves the incentive to work.

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How? Well, traditional welfare often had a 100

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% implicit tax rate. You earn a dollar, you lose

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a dollar in benefits. The NIT would have, say,

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a 50 % rate. You earn an extra dollar, your benefit

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only falls by 50 cents. So you always keep half.

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An extra dollar earned always means more money

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in your pocket. Always. Which is philosophically

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central to his views on liberty. And he justified

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this intervention, which is... a bit unusual

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for him, using the idea of the neighborhood effect.

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That's his ethical boundary. He accepted that

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government action to alleviate poverty was justified

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because the existence of visible poverty negatively

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impacts society as a whole. It distresses us.

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It can cause crime. So society benefits from

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its alleviation, which justifies a public contribution.

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But he put a very strict condition on the NIT.

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A vital one. He stressed that the negative income

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tax would only be acceptable if it replaced and

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abolished the entire host of existing welfare

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programs. He wasn't proposing an addition to

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the state. He was proposing a massive structural

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simplification. Moving beyond economics, he was

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also remarkably consistent in his classical liberal

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principles on social issues. His guiding star

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was always liberty. Take the military. He was

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instrumental in the committee that recommended

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the shift to the all -volunteer force. He argued

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the draft was inconsistent with a free society.

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Right. He basically compared it to slavery in

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its most fundamental terms. And in education,

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he was the philosophical force behind the school

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choice movement. His push for school vouchers

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was so straightforward. Funding should follow

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the child, not the institution. He championed

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the idea that public funds could be used for

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privately run schools to foster competition.

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and innovation. This led him to found what's

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now known as EdChoice. It did. And he took similarly

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libertarian stances on personal conduct. He supported

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the legalization of drugs and prostitution. He

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did. On drug prohibition, he argued the government

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wasn't fighting drugs. It was inadvertently serving

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as the marketing and pricing arm for the drug

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cartels, making the product more profitable by

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outlying competition. He also supported gay rights.

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Explicitly, he said, I do not believe there should

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be any discrimination against gays. And his views

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on immigration are particularly nuanced. Especially

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when you connect them to the welfare state. He

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was a strong advocate for high levels of both

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legal and illegal immigration. He argued it has

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a very positive impact on the U .S. economy because

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immigrants take jobs residents are unwilling

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to take. And crucially, that they historically

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didn't use welfare. Right. But that leads to

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his famous proviso. He argued that you cannot

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have open borders and a comprehensive welfare

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state at the same time. The incentives just don't

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work. So for open borders to function, the welfare

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state has to be radically streamlined or ended.

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That was the position. And what about the environment?

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How did he apply market principles there? Instead

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of rigid rules, you know, command and control

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regulation, he advocated for market discipline

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through environmental taxes or effluent charges.

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So you tax the pollution directly. Exactly. You

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impose a tax on the volume and type of pollution.

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This provides a continuous incentive for polluters

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to find the cheapest, most efficient way to reduce

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their emissions rather than following some one

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-size -fits -all bureaucratic mandate. And tying

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back to his earliest ideas, he was a fierce opponent

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of the minimum wage. Absolutely vigorous. He

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saw it as government price fixing in the labor

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market. He argued it causes unemployment, especially

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among low skilled workers, by pricing their labor

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out of the market. It was a perfect example of

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his philosophical consistency. So his influence

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wasn't just academic. After he retired from Chicago

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in 77, he became this global economic guru. He

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did. He served as a key unofficial advisor to

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two of the most consequential political figures

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of the 1980s, Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

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He provided the intellectual foundation for the

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deregulation, privatization and fiscal austerity

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policies that really defined that decade. And

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he was honored for it. He received the Presidential

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Medal of Freedom and the National Medal of Science

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in 1988. But despite this close association with

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the Republican Party, he always identified his

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personal philosophy as clearly libertarian. He

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did. He criticized what he called zero government

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libertarianism as infeasible. He saw himself

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as a pragmatic revolutionary. He said he remained

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a Republican because that was the way he could

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be the most useful and have the most influence.

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Now we have to talk about the most controversial

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example of his global reach, his connection to

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the Chicago Boys and the economic reforms in

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Chile under the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet.

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Yes, this requires very careful, impartial treatment.

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So in 1975, two years after the violent coup,

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Chile was facing hyperinflation, economic collapse.

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And Friedman visits. He does, invited by a private

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Chilean foundation. He gives lectures, has a

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private meeting with Pinochet. He was never an

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official employee of the regime, but his influence

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was undeniable. And what was his core advice?

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He advised the famous shock treatment approach

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to end the raging inflation. This meant extremely

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rapid. draconian cuts to government spending

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and a dramatic reduction in the money supply.

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He argued that gradualism was not feasible. And

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graduates of the Chicago Boys, they implemented

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these policies. They did. And the controversy

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here is profound. He gets the Nobel Prize in

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1976 amid international protests because of this

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association with a regime known for gross human

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rights abuses. How did he defend himself? His

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defense was consistent and twofold. First, he

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separated the political regime from the technical

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economic advice. He said he'd offer advice to

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any government facing the medical plague of inflation.

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And the second part. More importantly, he argued

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that the adoption of free market policies, despite

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being implemented under a dictatorship, actually

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led to economic success and crucially contributed

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to the eventual transition back to democracy

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in 1990. So he was supporting his core idea that

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economic freedom fosters political. freedom.

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Yes. He maintained that market forces inherently

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decentralized economic power and undermine Pinochet's

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political control. Now, critics vehemently dispute

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this, but Friedman saw the long term results

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as a vindication of his belief. And which country

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did he always point to as the ideal example of

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his principles in action? He repeatedly cited

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Hong Kong as the best real world example of a

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successful free market economy. OK, let's pivot

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to the lasting critiques of his work, starting

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with. his view on corporate philosophy the friedman

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doctrine on corporate social responsibility this

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is still so widely debated today friedman argued

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forcefully that a business's only social responsibility

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within the bounds of law and ethics is to maximize

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profits for its shareholders period so he was

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opposed to corporations trying to do social or

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environmental good beyond just making a profit.

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He saw it as an illegitimate use of shareholder

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funds. Basically, a manager diverting corporate

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money to a social cause was spending someone

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else's money on their own personal social agenda.

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He called claims about CSR hypocritical window

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dressing. He did, unless they were genuinely

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aimed at improving the firm's long term profitability.

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His view was if you want to support a cause,

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do it with your own money after taxes, not with

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the company's money. His fundamental economic

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theories also faced ongoing criticism, right?

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Especially on the nature of money. Absolutely.

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We touched on this earlier, the whole exogenous

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versus endogenous money debate. Post -Keynesians

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like Nicholas Kaldor heavily challenged the monitor's

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view. Arguing that money is created endogenously

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from within the system by commercial banks responding

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to demand for credit. Right. Rather than being

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strictly controlled by the central bank. And

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while Friedman often dominated the early debates,

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the concept of endogenous money remains a profound

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challenge to his strict policy rules. And finally,

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we have to address the political and... societal

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critiques that arose as Friedman -inspired policies

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took hold globally. This is vital context for

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his legacy. The political scientist C .B. McPherson

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challenged his core premise that economic freedom

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must precede political freedom. But the more

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contemporary critiques focus squarely on the

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economic outcomes, specifically the rise of inequality.

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Exactly. Critics like Lawrence Michel argue that

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the widespread adoption of the Friedman doctrine

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led to systematic policy choices, deregulation,

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anti -union. measures that systematically reduced

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worker power and dramatically increased wage

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inequality in the U .S. and elsewhere. The numbers

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are pretty stark. Mitchell notes that while productivity

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rose almost 70 percent between 1980 and 2020,

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hourly pay for a typical worker went up less

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than 12 percent. While earnings for the top 1

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percent just surged. The argument is that Friedman

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provided the intellectual justification for policies

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that fundamentally favored capital owners over

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labor. Which brings us back full circle to the

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complexity of his legacy. A fierce defender of

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liberty and efficiency, but the real -world application

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of his blueprints produced results that many

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critics find problematic. He shifted the debate,

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but the outcomes of that shift remain heavily

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contested. So what does this all mean for you,

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the learner? Friedman's impact is just undeniable.

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He permanently shifted the center of economic

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debate away from Keynesian fine -tuning to monetarist

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control and fiscal discipline. His works, especially

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Capitalism and Freedom, provided this accessible,

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detailed, and effective roadmap for classical

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liberalism. And his enduring power really lies

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in his philosophical consistency. He could seamlessly

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go from a technical debate over the Phillips

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curve to radical advocacy for legalizing drugs

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or abolishing entire government departments.

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He just truly believed in maximum freedom and

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minimal state interference in every part of human

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life. So our final thought for you to consider

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is this. Friedman's ultimate preference wasn't

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just for smaller government, but for a radically

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re -engineered, often automated, state where

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human discretion was eliminated. He wanted rules.

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not rulers. So considering his complex legacy,

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the rise in efficiency coupled with the concurrent

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rise in inequality, which of Friedman's most

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radical, automated or decentralized proposals,

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things like the negative income tax or the K

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percent rule, still holds the greatest potential

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today to fundamentally change policy and maximize

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both liberty and efficiency if implemented exactly

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as he intended. The ultimate test of his philosophy

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remains whether automating the critical levers

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of government truly leads to the free and efficient

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society he envisioned. Or whether it simply shifts

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power from bureaucrats to the unpredictable and

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often self -interested forces of the market.

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And that's a debate that continues to shape our

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world. Thank you for joining us for this deep

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dive into the mind and legacy of Milton Friedman.
