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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. This is the place

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where we go beyond the surface, really get into

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the source material, and try to build some genuine,

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high -level insight. We're not about summaries

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here. We're trying to understand the why. And

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today, the why is focused on just an incredible

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figure, one of the most recognizable and yet...

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maybe one of the least truly understood people

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of our time, Stephen William Hawking. Absolutely.

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He lived from 1942 to 2018. And he really had

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this singular, almost contradictory identity.

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He did. On the one hand, you have the brilliant

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English theoretical physicist, the cosmologist,

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you know, the mind trying to unify the entire

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universe. And then on the other, you have this

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massive cultural icon who battled motor neuron

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disease for more than 50 years and achieved,

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well, a level of fame no scientist had seen in

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generations. Right. And that's our mission for

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this deep dive. We're going to unpack that narrative,

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the connection between the intense academic rigor

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on a cosmic scale and, well, the profound physical

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collapse of the man himself. We've got biographies,

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articles, scientific papers right here, and we're

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looking for what explains it. How does someone

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get a terminal diagnosis at 21? And then go on

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to hold the Lucasian Professorship of Mathematics,

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Isaac Newton's old chair. Exactly. From 1979

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all the way to 2009. It's a story that weaves

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together this really radical physics with an

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almost unimaginable personal struggle. So for

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you listening, here's the plan. We're going to

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start at the beginning. His very unusual origins,

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that famous apathy he had as a student, and then

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the shock of the diagnosis that... really lit

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a fire under him. And we'll get straight into

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the physics, the really big ideas, singularity

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theorems, the famous black hole wars, and, of

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course, the breakthrough of Hawking radiation.

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And finally, we'll look at the man himself, his

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shift to global celebrity, the fierce, fierce

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independence he kept through it all, and his...

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his pretty striking final views on AI, space,

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and really the future of all of us. It's quite

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a journey. Okay, let's start unpacking this.

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Where does a mind like Hawking's come from? And

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the sources point to a family that was, well,

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anything but conventional. That's a good way

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to put it. His parents, Frank and Isabel, were

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both Oxford graduates. Frank was a respected

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medical researcher in tropical diseases, and

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Isabel studied philosophy, politics, and economics.

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you know, a very academic household. But not

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a wealthy one. That's a key detail. Not at all.

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They were frugal. They lived in Highgate, London,

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then St. Albans. And the sources paint this picture

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of a highly intelligent and somewhat eccentric

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family life. And that eccentricity, it seems

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crucial. It wasn't just being smart. It was a

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rejection of kind of normal social rules. Oh,

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completely. The classic story that gets repeated

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is about their family nails. They weren't spent

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talking. No. Each person had a book. They would

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just sit there in silence reading. I mean, can

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you imagine? And their family car, this really

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sums it up, was a converted London taxi cab.

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They bought it cheap. It was big enough for the

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family and all their books. This was an environment

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that prized independent thought above almost

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everything else. But maybe not discipline. Definitely

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not conventional discipline. And you see that

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immediately in his school years. It's actually

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really surprising. The future Lucasian professor

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was not a star student. He struggled to learn

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to read, didn't he? He did. He blamed the progressive

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methods of his school at the time. Said he didn't

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learn until he was much older than his peers.

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But his friends saw something else. His nickname

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was Einstein. Exactly. Because his raw aptitude

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was obvious, even if his grades were mediocre.

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He and his friends, with a little help from a

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math teacher named Dikran Tata, actually built

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a computer. Wait, a working computer? In the

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late 1950s? A working electromechanical computer

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that used old clock parts, a telephone switchboard,

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just recycled junk. And this wasn't for a class

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project or a grade. It was pure curiosity. It

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was a self -directed passion project. It showed

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he understood systems and logic in a way that,

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you know, his report card just couldn't capture.

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That's the classic sign of genius, isn't it?

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Not good at the rote learning, but brilliant

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at seeing the whole system. So when it came to

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university, he wanted math. He did. But his father

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wanted him to study medicine. And to complicate

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things, University College at Oxford, his dad's

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old college, didn't offer a straight mathematics

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degree. So he chose physics and chemistry instead.

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A compromise. And he starts at Oxford in 1959.

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He's only 17. And he is... by all accounts, immediately

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bored and lonely. He found the work ridiculously

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easy. That's the famous quote. His physics tutor,

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Robert Berman, said Hawking just needed to know

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that a problem could be solved and then he could

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figure it out himself without looking at how

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anyone else did it. That's incredible confidence,

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but it led to some terrible study habits. Terrible.

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He himself estimated he only studied for about

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1 ,000 hours in his entire three -year degree.

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That's, what, an hour a day? Maybe. So he's bored,

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he's not being challenged, and he's looking for

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some kind of intensity. And he finds it in the

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University College Boat Club. He joins as a cox.

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The person who steers the boat and motivates

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the rowers. Right. And he becomes known for it.

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He develops this daredevil image, steering these

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really risky, tight courses, sometimes damaging

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the boats. It was his way of finding that intensity

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and becoming a more popular social figure. But

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then came finals, and those study habits almost

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cost him everything. They did. He needed a first

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-class degree to get into Cambridge for his graduate

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work in cosmology. And he was right on the borderline

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between a first and a second. So it all came

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down to the viva, the oral examination. This

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is where that audacity just shines. He doesn't

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go in there apologizing for his lack of work.

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He's completely pragmatic. The examiners ask

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him what his future plans are. And he basically

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gives them an ultimatum. He does. He says, if

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you award me a first. I will go to Cambridge.

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If I receive a second, I shall stay in Oxford,

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so I expect you will give me a first. I mean,

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the nerve. But it wasn't just arrogance, was

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it? It was a calculated risk. A completely calculated

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gamble. And it worked. Berman, his tutor, later

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confirmed the examiners knew they were dealing

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with someone far cleverer than most of themselves.

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He got his first. He was off to Cambridge in

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1962. So he arrives at Cambridge ready to take

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on the universe, but it doesn't start well. No,

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it's a difficult start. First, he's disappointed

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he doesn't get the famous astronomer Fred Hoyle

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as his supervisor. Instead, he gets Dennis Sciamma.

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And he also realizes he's not prepared. Right.

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He feels his math skills from Oxford just aren't

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up to the task for general relativity. He feels

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completely lost in his early work. And then on

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top of all that professional uncertainty comes

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this life shattering personal crisis. In 1963,

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he's just 21 years old. He's diagnosed with an

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early onset, slow progressing form of motor neurone

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disease, ALS. The prognosis was just. The doctors

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gave him two years to live. I can't even begin

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to imagine what that does to you. He fell into

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a deep depression. He felt there was no point

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continuing his studies, no point in anything.

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He had just listened to Wagner and shut himself

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away. But the disease didn't move as fast as

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they predicted. And that's the turning point,

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isn't it? The shock becomes a catalyst. It becomes

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the ultimate motivator. It wasn't that the physical

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limits focused his mind, although maybe that

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was part of it. It was the realization that time

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was finite. He needed a purpose, and he needed

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it now. And his supervisor, Sai Mom, encouraged

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him, pushed him to keep working. He did. And

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Hawking's own words on this are so powerful.

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He said, Before I got motor neuron disease, I

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was bored with life. But the prospect of an early

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death made me realize life was really worth living.

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All that boredom, the daredevil stuff on the

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river. He was looking for stakes. And MND gave

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him the ultimate stakes. And that new focus produced

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incredible results incredibly quickly. By 1966,

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he finishes his Ph .D. thesis, Properties of

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Expanding Universes. Which got him a research

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fellowship at Gonville and Caius College. And

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he shared the Adams Prize with Roger Penrose.

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That one year, 1966, was his arrival. He became

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a major force in physics and was born directly

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out of staring down his own mortality and refusing

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to give in. Okay, so that collaboration with

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Roger Penrose really defined the first huge chapter

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of his scientific career. They started with the

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ideas in Hawking's thesis and just blew them

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up to a cosmic scale. Right. What Penrose had

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already shown was that if a massive star collapses,

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it leads inevitably to a singularity, a point

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of infinite density inside a black hole. But

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that's for a star. The revolutionary step was

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applying it to the whole universe. Exactly. In

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1970, they published this joint proof. It said

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that if the universe obeys general relativity

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and if it's expanding in the way we observe,

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then it must have begun as a singularity. So

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they weren't just saying the Big Bang was a good

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theory. They were saying it was a mathematical

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necessity of the laws of gravity as we understood

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them. Precisely. And that was a huge blow to

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the competing steady state theory at the time.

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It provided the mathematical backbone for the

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Big Bang model. So what was the big hurdle they

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cleared? People thought singularities might just

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be, I don't know, mathematical quirks, right?

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They did. Critics argue that maybe if you factory

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in rotation or a more complex, messy start to

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the universe, you could avoid everything collapsing

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back to a single point. Hawking and Penrose proved

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that no, as long as gravity is always attractive,

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the singularity is inescapable. The past of our

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expanding universe had to have a beginning. From

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there, he zooms in on black holes themselves,

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and he starts with the laws of how they behave.

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Yes, in 1970, he comes up with the second law

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of black hole dynamics. It's an elegant idea.

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It says that the surface area of a black hole's

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event horizon, the point of no return, can never

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get smaller. It can only get bigger or stay the

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same. Right. And working with others, they expand

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this into four laws of black hole mechanics,

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which strangely mirrored the laws of thermodynamics.

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Strangely, because black holes are supposed to

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be completely cold, right? Zero temperature,

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zero entropy, which is a measure of disorder.

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Exactly. So at the time, the analogy was just

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a formal mathematical curiosity, but it laid

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the groundwork for what came next. And that groundwork

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also supported something called the no -hair

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theorem. The no -hair theorem is just, I mean,

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it's one of the wildest ideas. It says that after

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a black hole forms, almost all the information

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about what created it is lost forever. So it

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doesn't matter if it was a star or a cloud of

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dust or a giant pile of encyclopedias. Doesn't

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matter. The resulting black hole is identical.

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It can only be described by three things. Its

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mass, its electrical charge, and its rotation.

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Or spin. All the other details. The hair gets

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shaved off. And that right there raises the massive

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question that would occupy him for the rest of

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his life. If the information is gone, where did

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it go? Okay, so up to this point, everything

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is based on classical general relativity. Black

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holes are perfect prisons. They only grow. But

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then Hawking decides to mix in quantum mechanics

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and everything changes. This is where it gets

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really fascinating. And it all started because

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he was trying to prove someone else wrong. Right.

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He had been talking to some Soviet physicists

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in Moscow in 1973. Yakov Eldovich and Alexei

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Starobinsky. They suggested that rotating black

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holes should actually emit particles because

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of quantum effects. And Hawking was, by his own

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admission, annoyed by this. Because it would

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violate his own second law that the area can

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never shrink. Exactly. So he sets out to disprove

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it. And in the process of trying to prove them

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wrong. He proves them right, but in an even more

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profound way. So what did he find? He found a

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different mechanism that meant all black holes,

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not just rotating ones, must emit radiation.

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It's because of quantum fluctuations at the edge

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of the event horizon. Okay, break this down for

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us. This is a tough one to get your head around.

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So in quantum theory... Empty space isn't really

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empty. It's fizzing with what are called virtual

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particles, particle and antiparticle pairs that

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pop into existence for a fraction of a second

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and then annihilate each other. Okay, with you

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so far. Now imagine this happens right at the

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edge of a black hole's event horizon. Sometimes

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one particle will fall in and the other will

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escape. And the one that escapes is what we see.

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Yes. A distant observer sees that escaping particle

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as real radiation. We call it Hawking radiation.

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But to conserve energy, If the escaping particle

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has positive energy, the particle that fell in

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must have had negative energy. Which means the

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black hole's total mass and energy just went

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down. Precisely. Black holes are not internal.

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They leak. They lose mass. They shrink. And over

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an almost unimaginable time scale, they will

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eventually evaporate completely. Which is a direct

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contradiction of his earlier work. It is. But

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it also brilliantly solved the puzzle of the

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thermodynamics analogy. It proved that black

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holes do have a temperature and they do have

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entropy. This was a monumental breakthrough.

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The impact was immediate, and he was elected

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a fellow of the Royal Society in 1974, right

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after the announcement. And of course, we have

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to mention his first famous public wager, the

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one with Kip Thorne over Cygnus X -1. Ah, yes.

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This was less about a deep principle and more

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about, you know, a real object in the sky. Hawking

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bet that this X -ray source, Cygnus X -1, was

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not a black hole. Which seems weird. Why bet

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against his own field? He called it an insurance

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policy. He joked that he'd done so much work

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on black holes, if it turned out they didn't

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exist, he would have felt pretty silly. This

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way, at least he'd win the bet. And he lost,

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right. He conceded in 1990. He did. The evidence

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became overwhelming. But it was that playful

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public engagement with the science that really

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started to build his public persona. So after

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revolutionizing black holes, he turns his attention

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back to the biggest question of all, the very

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beginning. In 1981, he goes to a conference at

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the Vatican of all places. And drops a bombshell.

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He proposes that the universe might not have

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a boundary, no beginning and no ending. This

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was the seed of the Hartle -Hawking state, which

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he published with Jim Hartle in 1983. Right.

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And to get there, they used a very complex mathematical

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tool called imaginary time. Okay, what does that

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mean in simple terms? Well, it's a way of treating

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the time dimension as if it were another dimension

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of space. And when you do that, the Big Bang

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singularity, that point of infinite density where

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the laws of physics break, it just disappears.

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It smooths out. This is where he uses that great

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analogy about the North Pole. It's the perfect

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way to explain it. You can't go any further north

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than the North Pole, but the pole itself is an

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edge or a boundary on the Earth's surface. It's

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just another point. So in this model, the Big

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Bang is like the North Pole, a starting point,

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but not a boundary where something had to exist

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before it to create it. Exactly. It suggests

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a universe that is completely self -contained.

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It doesn't need an external creator or a cause.

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As Hawking himself said, it meant God would not

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have had any freedom to choose how the universe

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began. That is a profoundly philosophical statement

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coming from a physicist. It was. It was a radical

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idea, suggesting the universe's origin was governed

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purely by the laws of physics itself. And he

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kept refining this idea later in his life, right,

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with the top -down cosmology theory. He did,

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with Thomas Hertog. This was a later attempt

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to deal with some tricky problems, like why our

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universe seems so... perfectly fine -tuned for

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life. Instead of a single starting point, this

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theory suggests there were many possible starts.

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A whole superposition of possible histories.

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And the idea is that our present observation

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of the universe, the fact that we are here to

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see it, effectively selects the past history

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that is consistent with our existence. So the

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present determines the past. In a quantum mechanical

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sense, yes. It's a very complex idea. But it

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was his way of trying to create a complete and

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self -contained picture of cosmology. So the

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science is established. The genius is recognized

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within the physics community. But the 1980s is

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when the rest of the world really discovers Stephen

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Hawking. And the reason for it was surprisingly

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practical. It came down to money. He needed to

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fund his children's education and his growing

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medical expenses. Right. So in 1982, he decides

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to write a popular science book, something for

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the general public. And the result was... A Brief

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History of Time, published in 1988. And it just

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became this absolute cultural phenomenon. The

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success was unbelievable. It was on the Sunday

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Times bestseller list for 237 weeks. That's over

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four and a half years. It sold something like

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nine million copies. A book about cosmology with

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almost no equations in it. That was the key.

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Yeah. And a lot of credit for that goes to his

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editor, Peter Guzzardi. He was the one who kept

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pushing Hawking to simplify, to make it more

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accessible. The famous line was that... Every

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equation would have the readership. Exactly.

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And Hawking, though he got frustrated with the

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constant revisions, he stuck with it. And it

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worked. He became an instant celebrity. Newsweek

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called him the master of the universe. He did.

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But that level of fame brought its own problems.

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It created some friction within the academic

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world. Some of his colleagues felt that the media

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attention was more about his disability than

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his science. That the visual of the man in the

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wheelchair was what made him a star, which, you

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know, kind of overshadowed the actual work. It's

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a complex issue. But that fame meant that his

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scientific debates, which usually happened behind

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closed doors and journals, were now playing out

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in public. And nothing was more public than the

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Black Hole War. Oh, this was the big one. This

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was the intellectual fight of his career. It

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all comes back to Hawking radiation. Right. If

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a black hole evaporates, what happens to the

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information about all the stuff that fell into

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it? Hawking's initial position back in 1981 was

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that the information is completely and irretrievably

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lost. It just vanishes from the universe. And

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that's a huge problem for quantum mechanics.

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A universe -breaking problem. A core principle

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of quantum mechanics is that information is never

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truly destroyed. It can be scrambled, transformed,

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but it's always there. If Hawking was right,

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one of the fundamental pillars of physics was

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wrong. So you have general relativity clashing

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directly with quantum mechanics, and this led

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to a famous bet in 1997. Yes, Hawking and Kip

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Thorne bet against John Preskill. They bet that

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information was lost. Preskill bet that it was

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somehow preserved and that our understanding

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of black holes had to be wrong. And Hawking eventually

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conceded. He did in 2004. But his solution was,

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well, it was very subtle. He proposed that if

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you consider all the alternative histories of

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the universe, information loss in one is canceled

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out by others. It wasn't a simple answer. He

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even called his original idea his biggest blunder

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in 2014. It clearly bothered him for decades.

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I mean, it's really telling us that his very

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last research paper, published after he died,

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was still trying to solve this problem. It was

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called black hole entropy in soft hair. He was

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working on it right up to the end. He also had

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another very public bet that he lost, this one

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about the Higgs boson. Yes, he was very emphatic

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that the Higgs boson, the particle that gives

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other particles mass, would never be found. He

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had public debates with Peter Higgs himself.

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So why was he so sure? I think he felt it wasn't

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an elegant solution within the standard model.

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He hoped for something simpler, more fundamental.

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But, you know, the universe doesn't have to be

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elegant. And when CERN found the particle on

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2012, the evidence was undeniable. It was. And

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to his credit, he conceded immediately and gracefully.

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He publicly said Peter Haig should win the Nobel

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Prize for it, which he did the next year. It

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showed he loved the intellectual fight, but he

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always respected the evidence. So if we really

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want to understand his popular appeal, we have

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to look at this profound contrast. The mind that

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was expanding to fill the universe and the body

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that was collapsing. Let's talk about the reality

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of living with MND. The decline started in his

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last year at Oxford. Just some clumsiness, a

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few falls. After the diagnosis in 63, it was

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slow, but just relentless. By the late 60s, he

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was on crutches, and by the mid -70s, he was

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in a wheelchair. And he didn't just use the wheelchair,

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did he? He was famous for his driving. Oh, notorious.

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The sources say he had a wildness to his driving.

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He'd zip around Cambridge, sometimes running

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over students' toes. It was a way of showing

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he was still in control. Still independent. That

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fierce independence seems to be the core of it

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all. He didn't want to be seen as a patient or

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a victim. No. He wanted to be seen as scientist

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first and a normal human being. That mental strength

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was what allowed him to keep working. As he lost

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the ability to write, he had to invent new ways

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to think. He started to see equations as geometry.

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Exactly. He developed these incredibly powerful

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visual methods. manipulating entire complex proofs

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in his head. The physicist Werner Israel compared

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it to Mozart composing a whole symphony in his

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mind without ever writing a note. So the disability

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in a way might have actually changed how he did

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physics, making it more abstract. It's possible.

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But the biggest change for his public identity

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came in 1985 when he lost his natural voice.

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From a bout of pneumonia, right? He needed a

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tracheotomy to save his life. It saved him, but

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it meant he could no longer speak. This was a

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critical moment. He needed round -the -clock

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care and a whole new way to communicate. And

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that's where the famous computer voice comes

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in, the Equalizer program. Gifted to him in 1986

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by a computer expert named Walter Woltos. At

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first, he used a handheld clicker to select words

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or letters from a screen. And that voice synthesizer

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had that distinct American accent. It did. A

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computer engineer named David Mason integrated

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the whole system onto his wheelchair. And as

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technology got better, people offered him newer,

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more natural sounding voices. But he always refused.

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Why? He said he identified with it. He felt it

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was his voice. He even said he could communicate

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better now than before I lost my voice because

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it forced him to be so clear and deliberate.

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But the disease kept progressing. Eventually,

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he couldn't even use his hands for the clicker.

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No. By 2005, he was down to controlling the entire

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system with just a single cheek muscle, detected

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by an infrared sensor on his glasses. His communication

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rate slowed to maybe one word per minute. That's

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terrifying, the prospect of being locked in.

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It was a real fear. So he started collaborating

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with Intel and a startup called SwiftKey on new

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software. An adaptive system. Right. They fed

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all of his books, lectures, and emails into the

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system so it could predict his next word with

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incredible accuracy. This custom -built software

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was absolutely essential for him to continue

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working and writing in his final years. Through

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all of this, his personal life was obviously

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incredibly complicated. His engagement to Jane

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Wilde right after the diagnosis, he said it gave

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him something to live for. They married in 1965,

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had three children. And Jane's role in those

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early decades was just immense. The sources really

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stress the strain it put on their marriage, the

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constant nursing care, the demands of his health,

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on top of raising a family. And there was a fundamental

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difference in their worldview. A huge one. Jane

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had a very strong Christian faith. And Stephen,

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as his work progressed, became a more and more

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convinced atheist. That created a lot of tension.

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And the marriage eventually ended. He left Jane

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in 1990 and later married one of his nurses,

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Elaine Mason, in 1995. That second marriage lasted

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until 2006. But it was, well, it was troubled.

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There were reports in the early 2000s from family

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and staff about alleged physical abuse. And there

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were police investigations. Yes, but they were

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always closed because Hawking himself refused

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to make any complaint or cooperate. After he

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divorced Elaine in 2006, he seemed to grow closer

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again to Jane and his children. There was a reconciliation,

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yes. And that provided him with a lot of support.

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in his final years. It's that part of his life,

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that relationship with Jane, that was famously

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turned into the film The Theory of Everything.

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He also embraced his role as a public advocate,

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didn't he? Even if he was reluctant at first?

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He was. But he eventually accepted he was a role

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model, especially for disability rights. He campaigned

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for better accessibility in Cambridge, which

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with its ancient buildings was a real challenge.

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And he had this one huge, unfulfilled dream to

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go to space. He really wanted to. Richard Branson

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offered him a flight on Virgin Galactic. And

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to prepare, in 2007, he took a zero -gravity

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flight, the Vomit Comet. And the pictures of

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him on that flight, floating free from his chair?

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They're iconic. They became this incredible symbol

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of him, for a moment, transcending his physical

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limitations. He passed all the tests, but sadly,

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commercial flights didn't begin in his lifetime.

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He also wasn't afraid to be political. He used

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his platform. He was a lifelong supporter of

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the UK's Labour Party. He was very outspoken.

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He called the Iraq war a war crime. He campaigned

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against nuclear weapons. And he was a massive

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champion for universal health care. He credited

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the NHS, the UK's health service, with his survival.

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He said flatly that without them, he would have

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died decades earlier. And he issued these very

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stark warnings later in life about Brexit, about

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Donald Trump's climate policies. He feared we

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were on a path to turning Earth into a Venus

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-like planet. hot and uninhabitable. In those

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later years, he really did turn his mind to these

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biggest of big questions, philosophy, God, humanity's

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future. And he wasn't shy about his opinions.

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In 2011, he famously declared that philosophy

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is dead. That's a bold statement. What was his

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reasoning? He basically argued that philosophers

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hadn't kept up with modern science. He felt that

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the big questions that used to belong to philosophy,

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what is the nature of existence, where did the

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universe come from, were now being answered by

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physicists. He saw scientists as the bearers

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of the torch of discovery now. And his own views

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on a creator, on God, they evolved quite a bit.

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They really did. In a brief history of time,

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he uses that famous metaphor about wanting to

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know the mind of God. A lot of people interpreted

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that in a religious sense. But later on, he left

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no room for doubt. None at all. In his last decade,

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he was explicitly and proudly an atheist. He

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said, I'm an atheist. His view was that the universe

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is governed by the laws of physics, period. The

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Hartle -Hawking model supported that. A universe

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with no boundary needs no creator. He even described

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the brain as a computer. Right. A computer that

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will stop working when its parts fail. Yeah.

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And he called the afterlife a fairy story for

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people afraid of the dark. His final view was

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that no one created the universe and no one directs

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our fate. And that worldview, based on physics

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and probability, led him to some pretty stark

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conclusions about our survival. He thought a

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global catastrophe in the next thousand years

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was almost inevitable. A nuclear war, a genetically

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engineered virus, an asteroid. Something. Which

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is why he was such a proponent of space colonization.

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It was an imperative for him. Don't keep all

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of humanity's eggs in one basket. We have to

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become a multi -planet species to guarantee our

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long -term survival. And if we do meet anyone

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else out there, he had a strong warning. A very

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strong warning. Avoid contact. He feared that

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an advanced alien civilization would likely be

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nomadic, looking for resources. He compared it

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to Columbus arriving in America. Which, as he

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said, didn't turn out well for the Native Americans.

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Exactly. He thought the risk was far too great.

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And finally, his warnings on artificial intelligence.

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He saw it as possibly the biggest event in our

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history, but also maybe the last. And his fear

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wasn't about AI becoming evil like in the movies.

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His fear was about AI becoming competent. Competent,

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but with goals that aren't aligned with ours.

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Precisely. If a super intelligent AI is programmed

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to, say, maximize paperclip production. It might

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turn the whole planet into a paperclip factory,

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not out of malice, but just because that's its

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goal. And humans would just be in the way. He

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also saw the immediate economic threat. Oh, absolutely.

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He argued that if machines are creating all the

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wealth, that wealth has to be redistributed.

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Otherwise, you'd have catastrophic inequality

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that would tear society apart long before the

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AI took over. Even in his final days, his mind

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was still working, still publishing. It was.

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His last book, Brief Answers to the... Big questions

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came out after his death, summarizing all these

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final thoughts. And his final research papers

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were still tackling the biggest mysteries in

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cosmology. He died at 76 on March 14, 2018. And

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the recognition he received in death was just

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immense. He was interred in Westminster Abbey.

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His ashes were placed right between the graves

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of Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin. It's a statement.

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It puts him in that tiny pantheon of figures

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who fundamentally changed how we see the universe

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and our place in it. And his memorial stone has

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an equation on it. That's his epitaph. The Bekenstein

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-Hawking entropy equation. He specifically requested

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it 15 years before he died. It looks incredibly

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complex. Why that one equation? What does it

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represent? It represents his entire life's work,

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his ultimate synthesis. The equation links the

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entropy or information content of a black hole

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to the area of its event horizon. But the key

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is in the constants, right? The letters in the

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equation. The key is in the constants. To make

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it work, you need the Adler. the gravitational

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constant from Einstein's general relativity.

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You need the piezo, the speed of light, also

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from relativity. And you need D -Otter. Planck's

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constant, which is the fundamental constant of

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quantum mechanics. So it's the one place in the

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universe where all the great theories have to

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come together. It's the one equation that proves

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that gravity, relativity, and quantum mechanics

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are all deeply and fundamentally connected. It's

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the perfect capstone for a man who spent his

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life trying to build that bridge between the

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immense cosmic world and the tiny quantum one.

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A staggering final statement. So as we wrap up

00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:31.430
this deep dive, what's the final thought for

00:29:31.430 --> 00:29:34.829
you, the listener? Hawking's life was this incredible

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synthesis of the immense and the intimate. He

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was uniting cosmology and quantum mechanics while

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his own body was collapsing. So if his Hartle

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Hawking state is right, if the universe has no

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boundary in time, no true beginning, then how

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should we value this one finite life we've been

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given? And what grand synthesis should you be

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striving for in your own deep dives to unite

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the different parts of your own knowledge and

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your own life? A challenge worthy of the man

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himself. Thank you for joining us for the deep

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dive. We'll see you next time.
