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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are

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taking on a true titan of the energy world, a

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company whose influence is felt in, well, just

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about every corner of the global economy. We're

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talking about Chevron Corporation. And this isn't

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just another energy company. It's an institution,

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really, with roots stretching back nearly 150

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years. And here's the hook that I think really

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frames this entire conversation. Since 2020,

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Chevron has been the last oil and gas company

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left in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Right.

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ExxonMobil got dropped. Chevron stayed. And that

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single fact, I mean, it just speaks volumes about

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its financial power, its strategic importance,

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and its sheer scale. We're talking about a company

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worth over $200 billion. So our mission today

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is to give you a really clear, impartial masterclass

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on how this behemoth actually works. We're going

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to trace its family tree right back to the famous

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Standard Oil breakup. And then we'll map out

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its modern global structure. I mean, how does

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it actually find, move, and then sell energy

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across the entire planet? Exactly. And we're

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going to dissect its biggest strategic moves,

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like the huge Hess acquisition, and also get

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into the... Well, the very significant legal

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and environmental battles it's constantly fighting.

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And this matters to you because honestly, if

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you understand how a vertically integrated super

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major like Chevron works, you get this crucial

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insight into global energy markets. It connects

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everything from climate debates to the real nature

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of high stakes corporate power and how that power

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can shape and sometimes even dictate international

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policy. So let's start at the very beginning.

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The birth of a titan in the American West. OK,

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so Chevron's story doesn't just start with the

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Standard Oil breakup. It's actually tied to the

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very beginning of the oil industry in California

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itself. How did that happen? You have to go all

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the way back to 1876. There had been some small

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discoveries before, but the moment everyone points

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to is when a company called Star Oil struck crude

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in the Pico Canyon oil field. Just north of Los

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Angeles. Right. And it wasn't a gusher. Not at

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first. Maybe 25 barrels a day. But that discovery

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is really seen as the start of the modern commercially

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viable oil industry in California. It's that

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classic aha moment that just snowballs into a

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whole industry. So Star Oil was the seed. It

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was. And the people who turned that seed into

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a real corporation were a group that included

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Charles N. Felton and Lloyd Tevis. They formed

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the Pacific Coast Oil Company. or PCOC, in 1879.

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Okay. They absorbed Star Oil and came in with

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some serious funding, a million dollars, which

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was a fortune back then. And very quickly, PCOC

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became the biggest oil company on the West Coast.

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And when you're the biggest player in a region,

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you eventually get the attention of the biggest

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player in the world. The Andi Rockefeller Standard

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Oil. Exactly. They couldn't ignore an asset that

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dominant. So in 1900, Standard Oil just acquired

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them. And then came the big one. The 1911 Supreme

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Court decision to break up the Standard Oil Trust,

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which just completely remade American business.

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And the West Coast assets of that trust were

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reorganized. A few years earlier, in 1906, PCOC

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had already become the Standard Oil Company,

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California. People just called it SoCal, or sometimes

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Calso. And that is the direct traceable ancestor

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of the Chevron we know today. That's the one.

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You know, we often talk about that breakup, but

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what was the actual... practical impact on SoCal.

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It wasn't just about splitting into 34 companies.

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No, it forced them to think differently. After

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the breakup, SoCal was legally restricted. They

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could only use the famous standard name in a

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few places. The Pacific Coast states, Nevada,

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and Arizona. So they couldn't just rely on that

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powerful legacy brand everywhere else. Right.

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That legal problem was actually a huge catalyst.

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It forced them to expand globally and create

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new brands and new identity. And that's where

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the name Chevron comes from. It is. The name

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itself was first used for some retail products

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back in the 1930s. And for a while, outside their

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home territory, they used the name Calso, too,

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from about 1946 to 1955. But no matter what they

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called themselves, their ambition was global.

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They quickly became one of the Seven Sisters.

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Seven Sisters. I mean, for those who don't know,

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this was a group of seven absolutely dominant

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petroleum companies that basically controlled

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the world's oil supply from the 40s through the

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70s. An incredible era of corporate power. And

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a huge part of that dominance was cemented by

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one single strategic move they made decades earlier.

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The Saudi Arabia connection. This is where you

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see corporate history just slam right into geopolitics.

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Yeah. In 1933, California Standard secured a

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massive concession in Saudi Arabia. That one

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deal changed everything. Not just for the company,

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but for the entire Middle East. It was pivotal.

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It led directly to the first big Saudi oil discovery

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in 1938. And then 10 years later, in 1948, they

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hit the jackpot. The Gawar Field. The Gawar Field,

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the largest conventional oil field in the world

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even today. And the subsidiary that ran all of

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this was eventually called the Arabian American

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Oil Company. Aramco. Aramco. So it was Chevron's

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ancestor, SoCal, that literally built the foundation

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for the modern Saudi oil state. And of course,

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Aramco was eventually fully nationalized by the

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Saudi government by 1980. It's just an incredible

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historical footprint for one company to have.

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It really is. But back on the domestic front,

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the company really grew by, well, you could call

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it merger mania. They just kept acquiring their

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competitors. The first really colossal one was

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in 1984. That was the deal for Pittsburgh -based

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Gulf Oil. And at the time, it was the largest

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corporate merger in history. The price was enormous,

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but it gave them huge reserves and a whole distribution

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network. And that's when they officially became

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Chevron Corporation. Exactly. That merger was

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the trigger. They finally retired the old SoCal

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name and adopted the retail brand they'd been

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building for 50 years. Which just set the stage

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for the next big wave of deals in the early 2000s.

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It did. In 2001, they bought Texaco for $45 billion.

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Now, Texaco was another old rival, and they already

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had history together. They'd formed a joint venture

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called Caltex back in the 30s. And the merger

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was so big, they actually renamed the whole company

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Chevron Texaco for a few years. From 2001 to

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2005, yeah. And I've read that... Back in the

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day, SoCal and Texaco were sometimes called the

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Terrible Twins. The Terrible Twins? For their

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aggressive business practices. So bringing them

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together, I mean, you can imagine the kind of

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corporate DNA they created. It was all about

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growth and hardball negotiations. And the shopping

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spree kept going. 2005, they bought Unocal. Right,

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for about $18 .4 billion. And this deal was really

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interesting because Unocal wasn't just about

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oil. It brought in these major assets in Southeast

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Asia. And that's not all it did. No. Critically,

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it boosted Chevron's proven reserves by about

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15 % overnight, and it made them a major global

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producer of geothermal energy. That's a theme

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we have to come back to, this tension between

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fossil fuels and their moves into alternative

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energy. For sure. But fast forward almost two

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decades, and they proved that their appetite

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for huge deals was still there. I'm talking about

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the 2023 deal for Hess Corporation. This one

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was huge. A $53 billion all stock deal. And it

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was laser focused. It wasn't just about getting

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bigger. It was about getting access to two really

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crucial things. new U .S. shale plays, and most

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importantly, Hess's big stake in the oil fields

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off the coast of Guyana. Guyana is one of the

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hottest oil exploration spots in the world right

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now. So this deal put Chevron right in the middle

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of a new boom. But it wasn't exactly a smooth

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process. Not at all. The Hess shareholders approved

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it, but then ExxonMobil, who was already a partner

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in Guyana, stepped in. What was their argument?

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They filed an arbitration claim. They argued

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they had the right of first refusal on Hess's

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shares in the Guyana project, basically saying,

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hey, we should have gotten the first shot at

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buying that. So you have two of the biggest supermajors

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on the planet fighting over this, holding up

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a $53 billion deal. It was a massive standoff.

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The arbitration dragged on, but eventually the

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regulators weighed in. In September 2024, the

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FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, they cleared

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the merger. But with a condition. A very important

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condition. They refused to allow the Hess CEO,

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John Hess, to take a seat on Chevron's board.

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It was a clear signal from the regulators about

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concerns over too much market consolidation and

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potential undue influence. So in the end, it

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was a very hard fought win for Chevron. OK, that

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history brings us right up to the modern Chevron.

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So now we need to look under the hood. How does

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this $200 billion engine actually run? And to

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do that, you have to understand its structure

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as a vertically integrated supermajor. Let's

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break that down for everyone. When we say vertically

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integrated, what does that mean in simple terms?

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It means they own the entire chain from start

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to finish. They don't just find the oil. They

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get it out of the ground. They move it. They

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refine it into gasoline and other products, and

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then they sell it to you at the pump. And that

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chain is broken into three parts, upstream, midstream,

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and downstream. Exactly. So let's start at the

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source, upstream. This is the high -risk, high

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-reward world of exploration and production.

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And their upstream footprint is just massive.

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It's enormous. On any given day, they're producing

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nearly 3 million barrels of oil equivalent. And

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while they're all over the globe, the two biggest

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hubs are North America, with about 1 .2 billion

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barrels of oil equivalent, and Eurasia, which

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is even bigger, at 1 .4 billion. And when you

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say North America, you really have to talk about

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the Permian Basin. It's the heart of the U .S.

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energy boom. The Permian is absolutely core to

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their operations. They have something like 11

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,000 wells spread across 4 million acres of West

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Texas and New Mexico. And they're not new to

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the game there. Not at all. They're a legacy

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player. They were one of the original developers.

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In fact, they produced their five billionth barrel

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of oil from the Permian way back in 2011. Wow.

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And they're also pushing hard in deepwater exploration,

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mostly in the Gulf of Mexico, with these incredibly

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complex fields like Tahiti and Blind Faith. And

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that expansion is happening right now with projects

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like the new Anchor Field. Anchor Field is a

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perfect example of the scale we're talking about.

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It's a $5 .7 billion project in the deepwater

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Gulf. It just started producing oil in August

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2024. And what kind of output are we talking

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about? It's designed to pump 75 ,000 barrels

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of crude oil and 28 million cubic feet of natural

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gas every single day. I mean, the engineering

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challenges on these projects are just mind boggling.

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So outside of North America, some of their biggest

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bets are on natural gas, right? Especially in

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Australia. Yeah. Australia is home to their largest

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single projects in the entire world. You have

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the Gorgon Gas Project, which costs $43 billion.

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$43 billion. And then right next door, you have

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the Wheatstone LNG development, another $29 billion

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project. These aren't just supplying Australia.

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They are fundamental to the LNG supply for all

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of Asia. And Gorgon has become this. this real

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focal point in the climate debate because Chevron

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is trying to pivot toward carbon capture. That's

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right. They're spending a lot of money to try

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and capture the CO2 that's produced with the

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gas and then inject it deep underground. It's

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a huge technical challenge. And the big question

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is, you know, is it a genuine commitment to decarbonization

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or is it more of a regulatory move to justify

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continuing this massive gas production? That

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is the multi -billion dollar question. Either

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way, the scale of the technology is just... It's

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breathtaking. And they're still huge in their

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legacy regions, too. Kazakhstan, West Africa.

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Absolutely. Kazakhstan is vital. They're involved

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in the giant Tengiz and Karachikanak projects.

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In West Africa, they're big in Angola, and they

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have a major joint venture in the Niger Delta

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in Nigeria. These are the places where you see

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the real geopolitical risk involved in securing

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the world's energy supply. So once you have all

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that oil and gas, you have to move it. And that

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brings us to the midstream segment, transport.

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Right. And historically, this was actually a

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part of the chain that Chevron didn't focus on

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owning as much as its rivals did. They used a

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lot of third party pipelines. But that's changed.

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It changed in a big way in 2021 when they bought

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Noble Midstream Partners. This was a very deliberate

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move to complete their vertical integration puzzle.

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So what did Noble give them that they needed

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so badly? It gave them control, total control

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over getting the crude from the well to the refinery.

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They got pipelines and gathering assets right

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in the heart of the Permian and DJ basins. It's

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all about efficiency. No more paying a middleman.

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Exactly. You control the flow. You control the

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cost. You buffer yourself from price swings.

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It cements that full cycle control. And for getting

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it across the oceans, they have their own fleet,

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the Chevron Shipping Company. They do, and as

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a fun little detail, the ships are often named

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after company directors. One of them was famously

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named after Condoleezza Rice, who was on their

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board for a long time. I remember that. They

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renamed it later, didn't they? They did. It's

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now the Altair Voyager. Okay, so that brings

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us to the final piece downstream. This is the

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part we all see. The refineries, the chemicals,

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the gas stations. This is the final link in the

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chain. Chevron has five active refineries in

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the U .S., including massive ones in Richmond

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and El Segundo in California. They also have

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partnerships in seven other refineries around

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the world in places like Singapore and South

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Korea. And the chemical business? That's mostly

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handled through a 50 -50 joint venture with Phillips

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66. It's called Chevron Phillips Chemical, or

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CP Chem. And it's a giant in its own right, making

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plastics, industrial chemicals, all sorts of

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things. But the most public face is obviously

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the gas stations. And the branding there is,

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well, it's a bit of a mess because of all the

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history we talked about. It's a mix of names

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for sure. The main brand in the U .S. is, of

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course, Chevron. There are almost 7 ,000 of them,

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mostly on the West Coast, in the South, and Texas.

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And they have the world's largest one, right?

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They do. At a place called Terrible's Roadhouse

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in Nevada. It's a gigantic facility. And then

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you still see the Texaco brand around. Yep. About

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1 ,300 locations still use the Texaco name, mostly

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in the South. And then internationally, the big

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brand is Caltex. That's the one you see all over

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Asia and Africa. Right. But even that has been

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complicated. They actually sold their stake in

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Caltex, Australia back in 2015. But then they

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came back. They did. They must have realized

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it was a mistake to leave that market. So they

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bought another company's assets and then relaunched

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the Caltex brand there in 2022. It just shows

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how aggressive they are about market access.

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The scale of everything we just talked about,

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it just requires an unbelievable amount of money.

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Which brings us to their financial picture and

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some of the huge strategic shifts they've made

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recently, starting with 2022. 2022 was a wild

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year for the whole energy sector. After Russia

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invaded Ukraine, oil prices just skyrocketed.

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And for Chevron, that meant record revenues of

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$246 billion. And profits. Record profits, $36

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.5 billion. I mean, they were just swimming in

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cash. And what a company does with that kind

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of windfall, that's where things got really controversial.

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It was a defining moment. Just days after announcing

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those massive profits, Chevron announced a $75

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billion... stock buyback program. $75 billion.

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And they increased their dividend. And the response,

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especially from the Biden administration, was

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immediate and very heated. The criticism was

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pretty straightforward, right? Why are you giving

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all this money back to shareholders instead of,

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say, increasing production to lower prices at

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the pump or investing it all in clean energy?

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That was exactly the argument. But Chevron's

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move gave a really clear window into their strategy.

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They were prioritizing returning cash to shareholders

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over massive new spending on exploration or refining.

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For critics, that $75 billion buyback was proof

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that the industry was focused on short -term

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rewards. And what's even more striking is that

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at the same time, they were planning to cut their

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workforce. It really underscores that relentless

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focus on efficiency. In early 2025, they announced

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plans to cut 20 percent of their workforce by

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the end of 2026. The goal was to slash payroll

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by two to three billion dollars. So record profits,

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huge shareholder payouts and deep job cuts all

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happening at once. It's the cycle of a super

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major trying to please the capital markets. And

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speaking of big strategic shifts, maybe the most

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symbolic one in their entire history was the

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decision to leave California and move their headquarters

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to Texas. I mean, this was huge. Chevron had

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been headquartered in California since 1879.

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But starting in 2022, they sold off their massive

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campus in San Ramon and started shifting everything

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to Houston. And they made it official in August

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2024. Yep. The full move to Houston was set for

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January 2025. And their CEO, Mike Wirth. was

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very public about why. He said that California's

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regulations were discouraging investment. So

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it wasn't just about saving money. No, it was

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a political statement. It was a symbolic rejection

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of California's climate policies and a huge bet

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on the legal and political environment in Texas

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as the future of American energy. And moving

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from domestic politics to global ones, Chevron

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is always walking this tightrope in geopolitical

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hotspots, and there's no relationship more complicated

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than the one with Venezuela. Venezuela is a complete

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roller coaster, and it's all dictated by whatever

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the policy is in Washington, D .C. Because of

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the sanctions on the Maduro regime? Exactly.

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For years, their operations were severely restricted.

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But then in 2022, the Biden administration relaxed

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some of those restrictions. And what was the

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idea behind that? The thinking was it could help

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stabilize global oil supplies and maybe use Chevron

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as a sort of go between. Right. But the rules

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were really strict. How so? Chevron could pump

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the oil, but they couldn't sell it to anyone

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connected to Russia or Iran. And most importantly,

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none of the profits could go directly to the

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Venezuelan state oil company, PDVSA. So Chevron

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was basically just acting as a debt collector.

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That's a good way to put it. They were recouping

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money they were owed. But then, of course, the

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pendulum swung back. Right. In February 2025,

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the Trump administration came in and revoked

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their license completely. All operations had

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to stop. But then it changed again. Just six

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months later, in August 2025. They got a new

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license from the Treasury and resumed exports

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to the U .S. almost immediately. It just shows

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how Chevron can be used as a tool of U .S. foreign

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policy, switched on and off. And sometimes they

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have to leave a country entirely, not because

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of policy, but because of ethics, like in Myanmar.

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Yeah, in January 2022, Chevron announced they

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were pulling out of Myanmar. They cited the rampant

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human rights abuses and the collapse of the rule

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of law after the military coup there. We've even

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seen their operations get hit by protests. Like

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in Kazakhstan. That was in January 2022. There

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were massive protests across Kazakhstan because

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of rising jewel prices. And Chevron had to temporarily

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cut production at their huge Tengiz Field. It's

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a reminder that this massive global supply chain

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can be really fragile at the local level. So

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to wrap all of this complexity up, they have

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their corporate slogan, which they launched back

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in 2007. The Human Energy Company. The Human

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Energy Company. That's very intentional, obviously.

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It's meant to project this positive spirit. But

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as we get into their investments in alternative

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energy and contrast that with their environmental

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controversies, you really have to ask what human

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energy means and what its real price is. OK,

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let's pivot now to how Chevron is trying to position

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itself for the future. I mean, they are obviously

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a fossil fuel giant, but they're also making

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some pretty significant investments in alternative

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energy. They are. And their history here is actually

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pretty complex. They've been involved in geothermal,

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solar, biofuels, hydrogen. A bit of everything.

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And it's important to remember, after they bought

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UNOCAL in 2005, Chevron was, for a time, the

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world's largest producer of geothermal energy.

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If they were the world's largest, why did they

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sell off those big geothermal assets in 2017?

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That seems to go against the idea of moving toward

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a lower carbon future. And that is the central

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paradox of their strategy. They sold them partly

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because geothermal, while it is low carbon, just

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doesn't offer the same high returns as a successful

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oil and gas project. It's a different financial

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model. So they divested from that, but they're

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still active in other renewables. They are, and

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often in ways that actually support their existing

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oil and gas operations. What's an example of

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that? Well, back in 2011, they launched this

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huge 29 megawatt solar to steam facility. But

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it wasn't to sell electricity to the grid. It

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was for what they call enhanced oil recovery.

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Exactly. They were using the steam generated

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by solar power to make it easier to extract heavy

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oil from the ground. So you're using solar power

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to produce more oil more efficiently. That makes

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perfect sense. You're lowering the carbon intensity

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of your production, but you're not actually replacing

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the oil itself. Right. But they are also making

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some very long -term frontier tech bets, like

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fusion power. Fusion. Yeah. In the last few years,

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they've taken investment stakes in two different

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fusion power companies, Zap Energy and Terrier

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Technologies. And they're also clearly serious

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about hydrogen. In 2023, they bought a majority

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stake in a hydrogen storage facility in Utah

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that's set to be the world's largest. And very

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recently, they've moved into the battery supply

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chain with their first lithium project. That

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was announced in 2025. They acquired a huge amount

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of land in Texas and Arkansas to go after lithium

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that's found in brine deep underground in a geological

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layer called the Smackover Formation. So they're

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trying to become a full spectrum energy company,

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not just oil and gas. That seems to be the long

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term goal. But no matter how much they invest

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to these new technologies, you just can't ignore

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the immense climate impact of their core business

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over the decades. And the numbers are just staggering.

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They're stark. Over its entire history, Chevron

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has produced something like 58 ,598 million tons

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of carbon dioxide. Which puts them under intense

00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:08.670
regulatory pressure. And leads to major fines.

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Like the one their joint venture, CPHM, got hit

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with in 2022 for violating the Clean Air Act.

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How much was that? It was a $118 million penalty.

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It was because they weren't properly flaring

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excess gases at three of their plants in Texas,

00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.119
which led to a lot of extra air pollution. And

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the irony is that all of their infrastructure,

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their refineries, their offshore platforms, they're

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all vulnerable to the extreme weather that's

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linked to climate change. It's a negative feedback

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loop. They even acknowledge it in their own risk

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reports. Hurricanes. Flooding. It all threatens

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their assets and drives up their costs. Which

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brings us to probably the most complex and controversial

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part of Chevron's entire legacy, the environmental

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disaster in Lago Agrio, Ecuador, which they inherited

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when they bought Texaco. This case is often called

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the Amazon Chernobyl. And it's just a defining

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story in corporate accountability. From the 60s

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to the 90s, Texaco was operating in the Ecuadorian

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Amazon, and critics accused them of systematically

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dumping billions of gallons of toxic waste and

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crude oil directly into the rainforest. And the

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impact on the local and indigenous communities

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there was just devastating. It destroyed the

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environment and caused widespread severe health

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problems for people who were drinking and bathing

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in poison water. And after decades of legal battles,

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an Ecuadorian court found Chevron liable in 2011.

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And ordered them to pay how much? $9 .5 billion

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in damages. A $9 .5 billion judgment. How does

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a company like Chevron respond to that? They

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refused to pay a single cent. They moved all

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of their assets out of Ecuador and launched one

00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.339
of the most aggressive corporate legal counterattacks

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you will ever see. They famously vowed to fight

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it until hell freezes over. And the main target

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of that counterattack was the American lawyer

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who represented the Ecuadorians, Stephen Donziger.

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The legal war against Donziger is what really

00:24:04.539 --> 00:24:07.859
stands out. Chevron filed a racketeering lawsuit

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against him in the U .S., claiming the entire

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.420
Ecuadorian judgment was based on fraud. And in

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2018, an international tribunal in The Hague

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actually ruled in Chevron's favor. But there's

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a huge asterisk on that ruling, isn't there?

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A massive one. A key witness that Chevron used

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against Donziger, a man named Alberto Guerra,

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later admitted under oath that Chevron had paid

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him over a million dollars and coached him for

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50 days to give false testimony. So the star

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witness admitted he lied after being paid. Essentially,

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yes. But the U .S. legal system's response to

00:24:38.980 --> 00:24:42.519
Donziger himself was, well, critics call it unprecedented.

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A judge ordered Donziger to turn over his computer

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and his phone. He refused. citing attorney -client

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privilege. The judge then hit him with criminal

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contempt charges. Okay. But here's where it gets

00:24:55.589 --> 00:24:57.829
really chilling. The U .S. Attorney's Office

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declined to prosecute the case. So the judge

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appointed a private law firm to prosecute Donziger

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in the court's name. And that private law firm?

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Had previously represented Chevron. Wait, let

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me just... I want to be clear on this. A private

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law firm that had worked for Chevron was appointed

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by a judge to criminally prosecute the lawyer

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who had just won a multi -billion dollar case

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against Chevron? That is correct. The outcome

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was that Donziger was put under house arrest

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for 993 days and was eventually convicted. Critics

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argue his sentence was longer than the legal

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maximum for that kind of offense. He was disbarred.

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His assets were frozen. It sounds like they were

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trying to make an example out of him. The argument

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from critics is that Chevron used its bottomless

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financial and legal power to crush him and to

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send a message to anyone else who might think

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about challenging them in court. That is just

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a staggering story. And that kind of disparity

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exists even here in the U .S., right? in Los

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Angeles with their urban drilling operation.

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It's real contrast. Critics point out that in

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lower income areas of L .A., you have active

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oil wells right next to homes and schools. But

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in wealthy areas like Beverly Hills, the drilling

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operations are hidden inside these big windowless

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buildings, like the one at Beverly Hills High

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School they call the Tower of Hope. Out of sight,

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out of mind. And beyond just hiding them, critics

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accuse them of improperly abandoning old wells,

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leaving behind toxic sites that pose ongoing

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health risks to nearby residents. It's cited

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as evidence of a pattern. Maximize profit, minimize

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cleanup costs, and use your legal power to fight

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anyone who complains. Hashtag tag tag outro.

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Wow, this has been a truly monumental deep dive.

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We've traded Chevron all the way back to Star

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Oil in SoCal, watched it become a seven -sister

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that laid the groundwork for Saudi Aramco, and

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tracked its growth through these landscape -changing

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acquisitions. Golf, Texaco, Unocal, and of course

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the huge, hard -fought $53 billion deal for Hess.

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And we've dissected this breathtakingly massive

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vertical engine that dominates everything from

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the Permian Basin to Australian LNG. A scale

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that was really captured by those record $36

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.5 billion in profits in 2022 and that immediately

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controversial $75 billion stock buyback. A move

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that was then underscored by the symbolic decision

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to move their entire headquarters to Houston.

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And we really tried to connect the dots on this

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deep, contradictory relationship they have with

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the climate and with communities. On one side,

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you have these forward -looking investments in

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solar, hydrogen, fusion power, even lithium in

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the smack -over formation. And on the other,

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you have major fines for Clean Air Act violations

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and this decades -long devastating legacy of

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the Lago Agrio contamination, a $9 .5 billion

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judgment they fought with a legal campaign that

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included the... Well, the unprecedented prosecution

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of the plaintiff's lawyer, Steven Donziger. It

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really forces you to synthesize these two opposing

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ideas. It does. Their slogan is the human energy

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company. And it's meant to sound positive, like

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they're helping the world change. But when you

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contrast their investments in fusion, which is

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all about the future of human ingenuity, with

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the legal wars they've waged over toxic dumping,

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which is all about avoiding a legacy of the past,

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it raises a really powerful question for you

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to think about. So what's the final takeaway

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here? I think the key insight is this. Chevron

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is betting that its sheer corporate scale and

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its technological know -how will keep it dominant

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for decades to come. But what truly defines the

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cost of that human energy in the 21st century?

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What is the real human and environmental price

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of maintaining that dominant, vertically integrated

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position, when that position is secured by both

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cutting -edge technology and by decades of aggressive,

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high -stakes litigation against the very people

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who claim to have been harmed by your past methods?

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That is the real measure of the energy they harness.
