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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are taking

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a massive stack of sources focused on one of

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the most recognizable yet persistently underestimated

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figures in modern culture, Richard Starkey. Known

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to the entire world, of course, as Ringo Starr.

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Exactly. And it's such a classic case, isn't

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it? The caricature just completely eclipses the

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man. It really does. For decades, the dominant

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narrative has been that he's the lucky one, the

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funny one, maybe the slightly simple beetle,

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the guy who was just there. Right. The amiable

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fourth corner. But if that's all you see, you

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miss this profoundly compelling story of resilience,

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of compositional genius, and really of artistic

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longevity. So our mission today is to move past

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that shorthand. We want you, the listener, to

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walk away with a thorough appreciation for the

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sheer struggle Ringo endured. just to survive.

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And then the revolution he quietly orchestrated

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in rock drumming and how he built one of the

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most durable post -supergroup careers in music

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history. This is about understanding Rigo Starr

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not as a footnote, but as an essential artistic

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and cultural phenomenon. We've got an incredible

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journey ahead. We're tracking his evolution from

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a truly... Well, a Dickensian childhood in poverty

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-stricken Liverpool. A childhood just riddled

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with near -fatal illness. Right through the chaos

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of Beatlemania, into the establishment of his

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unique musical fingerprint, and finally, his

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contemporary role as Sir Ringo Starr, Night Bachelor.

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Recognized for services to music in 2018, it's

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an incredible arc. It is. That's the sweep of

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it. We're unpacking his unique style of drumming.

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those famous linguistic contributions we call

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Ringoisms, and we're going to dissect the genius

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business model behind his sustained success with

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the all -star band. And it's important to note,

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as of 2025, he remains the longest living member

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of the classic Beatles lineup. Which is a testament

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to that same resilience we're about to examine.

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Okay, let's unpack this crucial beginning. We

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really have to begin with his birthplace, 9 Madren

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Street in the Dingle area of Liverpool. And this

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location is so key, isn't it? It's everything.

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It was an inner city area just defined by post

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-war austerity and genuine hardship. Ringo's

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parents, Richard Starkey and Elsie Cleave, they

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were confectioners, but the poverty surrounding

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them was just... His biographer, Bob Spitz, he

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didn't pull any punches when describing it. No,

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not at all. He called his upbringing, and this

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is a direct quote, a Dickensian chronicle of

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misfortune. And that language, it feels exactly

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right when you look at the details. It really

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does. I mean, the houses in the Dingle were described

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as being tiny postage stamp sized was the phrase.

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Wow. Yeah. And, you know. Poorly ventilated,

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crumbling plaster walls. Just the absolute epitome

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of working class struggle in the 1940s. And the

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situation at home wasn't much better. No, the

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domestic situation mirrored the economic hardship.

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His father, also Richard Starkey, they called

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him Big Richie, he was often absent. Prone to

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drinking, right. Yeah, prone to drinking and

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dancing in pubs for days at a time. This left

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his mother, Elsie, in this incredibly precarious

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financial position. She was trying to survive

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on meager support payments. I think I read it

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was 30 shillings a week. That's right, 30 shillings,

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just an impossible amount. So she had to take

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on these relentless, menial jobs before she finally

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settled into a 12 -year stint as a barmaid just

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to keep their small household afloat. But poverty,

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as bad as it was, was really just the backdrop

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to a far greater threat. His health. his life

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-threatening health issues. This is a relentless

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series of medical crises that you can see fundamentally

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shaped his personality and his opportunities.

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The first major blow came when he was just six

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years old. He suffered a severe attack of appendicitis.

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Which was then followed almost immediately by

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peritonitis, a really serious abdominal infection.

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And this wasn't just a tough illness. I mean,

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for him, it was a near -death experience. He

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fell into a coma that lasted for days. For days.

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And his recovery demanded a grueling 12 months

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away from his family, spent in the Myrtle Street

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Children's Hospital. Just try to imagine the

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isolation and the fear of a six -year -old enduring

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that in the 1940s. It's unimaginable. And the

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impact of this extended illness was immediate

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and devastating on his education. Oh, completely.

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When he was finally discharged in May 1948, his

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mother was so terrified of a relapse that she

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kept him home for almost another year. So by

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age eight, he's just severely behind. He was

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functionally illiterate and had a very poor grasp

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of basic mathematics, an impossible gap to make

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up. And he needed intensive help, which he got

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from a neighbor, right? A surrogate older sister.

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Marie McGuire Crawford. She gave him dedicated

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twice -weekly tutoring just to try and get him

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caught up. But just as he was starting to find

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his footing, tragedy struck again. Five years

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later. In 1953, at age 13, he contracted tuberculosis.

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So another long period of isolation. Two full

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years in a sanatorium. This, however. This is

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where the narrative shifts from just pure misfortune

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to, well, to destiny. This is the pivotal moment.

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This is what directly links his suffering to

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his future fame. Exactly. You're talking about

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the genesis of Ringo Starr, the drummer. Because

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the staff at the sanatorium, they were actively

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trying to counteract the debilitating boredom,

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right? Stimulate motor activity in the patients.

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And they encouraged them to form a hospital band.

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And that's where he received his first percussion

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instrument. And it wasn't a sleek, professional

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Ludwig kit, you know? It was a makeshift mallet

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crafted from a humble cotton bobbin. And he used

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it to strike the cabinets next to his bed. Just

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to create a rudimentary rhythm. The experience

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wasn't about professional ambition at all. It

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was about alleviating the immense mental and

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physical drag of two years of isolation. Music

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became his necessary release. That anecdote is

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so crucial because it shows that drumming was

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never about stardom or money first. For him it

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was about therapy. It was about self -expression.

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Precisely. So when he finally returned home in

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late 1955, his motivation for any kind of traditional

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employment was understandably lacking. His initial

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attempts at work were, well, they were disastrous.

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Completely. He secured a job with British Rail,

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but mostly for the warm uniform that came with

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it. And then he was quickly laid off. After failing

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the mandatory physical exam, his past health

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history just kept coming back to haunt him. The

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system was already against him. Then he took

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that job as a waiter on a dayboat. Traveling

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between Liverpool and North Wales, and he quit

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that almost immediately. But not because he hated

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the job, which is the funny part. No, it was

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because he was terrified it might make him seem

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suitable for seafaring work, which would lead

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to conscription into the Royal Navy. He was actively

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trying to avoid the draft. It just shows the

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anxiety that young men were facing in that post

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-war era. It wasn't until mid -1956 that any

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stability emerged, and that's thanks to his stepfather,

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Harry Graves. Graves was truly instrumental,

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wasn't he? In every sense. Not only did he help

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Ringo secure a stable apprentice machinist position

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at a place called Henry Hunt and Son, but Graves

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also widened Ringo's musical horizons. He was

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a big band fan. A passionate fan of big band

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music artists like Dinah Shore and Billy Daniels,

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this exposed Ringo to these complex rhythmic

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structures. that were far beyond the scope of

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early rock and roll. And that machinist job,

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ironically, provided the final push toward his

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calling. It did. He befriended a co -worker there

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named Roy Trafford, and the two of them just

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bonded intensely over the emerging skiffle craze

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sweeping Britain. And they began their earliest

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rehearsals, drumming, picking, singing, in the

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factory cellar. during their lunch breaks. So

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the path to Rory Storm didn't start in a club.

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It started beneath Machine Shop. So we transition

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now from that machine shop seller to the nascent,

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chaotic Liverpool music scene. And Ringo's early

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efforts in the skiffle genre were incredibly

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raw, but they established his core appeal, that

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primitive, infectious, rhythmic drive. His first

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band, the Eddie Miles Band, which later became

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Eddie Clayton and the Clayton Squares, they played

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typical skiffle hits. But you have to think about

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the setup. Oh, it was nothing. Ringo was literally

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raiding a thimble across a washboard. Or banging

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on biscuit tins in chairs. Yeah, this wasn't

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sophisticated percussion. It was just primal

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noise creating what were described as primitive

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driving rhythms. It's almost impossible to imagine

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the Beatles' future being built on someone banging

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a biscuit tin. Well, that's why Christmas Day

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1957 was such a pivotal moment. His stepfather,

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Harry Graves. He gifted him a real, albeit secondhand,

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drum kit. It had a bass drum, a snare. and this

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is the best part, a makeshift symbol fashioned

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from a rubbish bin lid. A bin lid. But that crude

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kit was enough to professionalize his sound.

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It was. As Skiffle faded in early 1958 and American

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rock and roll took over, that kit allowed him

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to transition seamlessly. And this led him directly

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to joining Rory Storm and the Hurricanes in November

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1959. Which was a significant step up. I mean,

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they were one of the city's leading bands. And

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this is where Richard Starkey officially sheds

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his identity and becomes the legend. The stage

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name Ringo Starr was born from the numerous rings

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he always wore. Right. And the surname Starr

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was partly chosen because it intentionally suggested

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a country and Western influence, which was hugely

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popular at the time. Not only that, but it was

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self -aggrandizing in the best way. Their live

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shows leaned heavily on Ringo's stage persona,

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prominently billing his drum solos as Starrtime.

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So even before he was a Beatle. He was already

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a stage personality. Absolutely. By early 1960,

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the Hurricanes were a huge draw. They were successful

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enough to secure a three -month residency at

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a Butlin's holiday camp. Which was seen as a

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massive achievement back then. A huge deal. That

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success then led them to the famous Hamburg residency

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at Bruno Koschmeiter's Kaiserkeller, starting

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in October 1960. I think we sometimes forget

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the hierarchy that existed in Hamburg. The Hurricanes

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were the established band. They were top -billed

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and paid significantly more than this fledgling,

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scruffy group called the Beatles. Ringo was already

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a well -known, respected drummer in that hyper

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-competitive environment. They absolutely knew

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him. In fact, Ringo first recorded with three

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of the future Beatles, Lennon, McCartney, and

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Harrison on October 15, 1960. That's right. They

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were backing the Hurricane singer Lou Walters

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on a cover of Summertime. So this wasn't just

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some casual meeting in a club. Ringo was already

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professionally integrating with them. And it

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wasn't just the Beatles who recognized his talent.

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Tony Sheridan, another key figure in that early

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Hamburg scene, tried repeatedly to poach Ringo

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away from Rory Storm. Which just proves that

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Ringo wasn't just waiting around for an opportunity.

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He was actively sought after because of his distinct

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driving rhythm. So that existing reputation made

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him the logical, if controversial, replacement

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when manager Brian Epstein decided. to fire Pete

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Best in August 1962. If controversial is a good

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way to put it. But despite his standing among

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the musicians, the public reaction was just volatile.

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Volatile is an understatement. The public backlash

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was immediate and intense because Pete Best had

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this massive local following. We have accounts

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of literal protests outside venues. Fans were

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shouting, Pete forever, Ringo never. and George

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Harrison, who was often the most outspoken of

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the group. He was even physically assaulted.

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He received a black eye from an upset fan during

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that transition period. So Ringo's early days

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as a Beatle were incredibly fraught. And just

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when the public was questioning him, his professional

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confidence was undermined by George Martin. Right.

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Ringo's very first official session was September

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4, 1962, but just a week later for the second

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session for Love Me Do. Martin replaced him.

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He brought in a session drummer named Andy White.

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So imagine Ringo, who had just weathered that

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public storm, being told to step aside. He was

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relegated to playing tambourine on the singles

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A side. And maracas on the B side. P .S. I love

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you. It must have been a crushing, humiliating

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blow. It was. Ringo admitted he thought, that's

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the end, they're doing a Pete Best on me. He

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believed he was about to be fired just weeks

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after joining. And Martin's explanation later.

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It was a bit defensive, I think. He said he simply

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didn't know what Ringo was like technically and

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wasn't prepared to take any risks on what was

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their crucial debut single. It's a moment of

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profound psychological insecurity for Ringo,

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but that moment of doubt was very quickly drowned

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out by the noise of Beatlemania. Oh, absolutely.

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By late 1963, the fans had done a complete reversal.

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They were calling for Ringo to sing. His popularity

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in 1964 globally was just staggering. You could

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actually measure it by the merchandise. I love

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Ringo. Lapel pins were the single best -selling

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Beatles merchandise item. He became a global

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icon, and he had the surprising impact on commercial

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industry, too. You're talking about the Ludwig

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drum logo. Exactly. It's prominent placement

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on Ringo's bass drum in every photo, every television

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appearance. It provided such a massive burst

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of unsolicited publicity that the Ludwig company

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became the dominant drum manufacturer in North

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America for the next two decades. Just from that

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one placement, Ringo's presence was a cultural

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tidal wave. In live shows, he even maintained

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the old Rory Storm tradition of star time. And

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Lennon would intentionally place a microphone

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near his kit, and the resulting audience and

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screams would rival the reception for the other

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three. It was his unique blend of deadpan humor

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and this sort of amiable shyness that made him

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incredibly relatable. And his personality translated

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perfectly onto film. When they released A Hard

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Day's Night, Ringo garnered the most critical

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praise. For his deadpan humor and, interestingly,

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for his extended non -speaking sequences. And

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that's a great anecdote we have to linger on.

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It is. The director, Richard Lester, actually

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had to arrange those extended non -speaking sequences,

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like the famous scene where Ringo goes off alone

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to take photographs. Because Star had been out

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drinking all night. Exactly. Lester essentially

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wrote around Ringo's exhaustion and slight incapacity

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to deliver lines flawlessly, and in doing so,

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turned a practical necessity into a brilliant,

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poignant, artistic moment. The result was that

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he was the unexpected breakout star of the movie.

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He later won a Melody Maker poll over his bandmates

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for his performance as the central character

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in their second film, Help. in 1965. But we have

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to remember the chaos that was surrounding all

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this fame. The pressure was just enormous. It

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was life -threatening. By 1964, Ringo was receiving

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telephone death threats before shows in Montreal.

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And he had to position his symbols vertically

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in a desperate, last -minute attempt to shield

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himself from any potential attack. It's a visceral

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image of the madness of Beatlemania. And as the

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band moved into the more experimental, intense

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studio years, Ringo's experience shifted from

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that chaotic validation to... Well, to profound

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isolation. Hmm. During a recording of Sweet Pepper's

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Lonely Hurts Club Band, he frequently felt like

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he was just a session musician. He was literally

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spending hours playing cards with the road managers,

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Neil Aspinall and Mal Evans, while the others

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meticulously perfected tracks. Because he wasn't

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a primary composer, his input was often limited

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to adding minor percussion effects, which left

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him feeling disconnected from the central creative

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process. He describes Sheet Pepper as the peak

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for everyone else. but for him. For me, it was

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a bit like being a session musician. His words.

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That feeling of being marginalized really reached

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its critical mass in 1968, prompting a pretty

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dramatic moment. He temporarily quit the band.

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The frustration stemmed in part from Paul McCartney's

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intense and pretty harsh criticism of Ringo's

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drumming on a track. So he needed to escape.

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And he did so on a holiday, on a boat, loaned

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to him by the actor Peter Sellers in Sardinia.

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And this is where that self -healing and creativity

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just intersect beautifully. It's a great story.

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While on the boat, the chef served octopus. Ringo,

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who is allergic to shellfish and generally squeamish,

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refused to eat it. And that conversation with

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the ship's captain about sea life sparked the

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idea for his most famous composition. Octopus's

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Garden. He wrote the initial structure on a guitar

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during that trip and later finished it with George

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Harrison's assistance. It's important to remember,

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though, that his very first solo -recorded Beatles

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composition showing his nascent songwriting muscle

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was Don't Pass Me By from the White Album. Right,

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that's right. And when he returned after two

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weeks away, Harrison had covered his entire drum

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kit in flowers as the symbolic, heartfelt welcome

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back gesture. It's a small detail, but it speaks

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volumes about how essential his presence, both

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musically and personally, was to the equilibrium

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of the group. even amid all that friction. Yeah,

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but the band's official end was just around the

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corner. The final time all four Beatles gathered

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in a studio for a recording session was for the

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mixing of I Want You, She's So Heavy on August

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20th, 1969. And just a month later, Lennon announced

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his departure, though the public wouldn't hear

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about the breakup until McCartney's statement

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in April 1970. So now we arrive at the core paradox

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of Ringo Starr. He's the man who was constantly

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dismissed by critics who were obsessed with Flash.

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But who, in reality, was a revolutionary compositional

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genius. His drumming philosophy entirely emphasized

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feel and context over sheer technical virtuosity.

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He defined his own style quite humbly. He did.

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He said, I'm your basic offbeat drummer with

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funny fills. because I'm really left -handed

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playing a right -handed kit. And that left -handed

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orientation, forced onto a traditional right

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-handed setup, is the absolute key to his unique

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compositional sound. Let's break that down, because

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the mechanics of it are fascinating. Because

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he was left -handed but played a right -handed

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kit, he was forced to play the hi -hat with his

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dominant left hand, crossing over to strike the

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snare with his right. So this cross -body playing

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creates a slightly awkward but incredibly original

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shift in timing. Exactly. His fills often start

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and end in unexpected places because he's leading

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with his dominant hand, creating that slightly

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delayed or off -kilter feel that makes the song

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swing so hard. And George Martin, after his initial

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doubts, eventually came to appreciate this immensely.

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He gave the definitive insight. He said Ringo

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hit good and hard and used the tom -tom well,

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offering that rock -solid backbeat. And this

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solidity was invaluable. The feel he brought

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wasn't just decorative, it was foundational.

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It provided a groove that allowed the others

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the freedom to experiment. He wasn't just supporting

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the song, he was defining it. The drummer Steve

00:18:36.529 --> 00:18:39.309
Smith noted that before Ringo, drumming was judged

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primarily by soloing and flash. Ringo, however,

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brought forth a new paradigm, showing the public

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that the drummer could be an equal participant

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in the compositional aspect. And that's so true.

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You can isolate his drum parts on tracks like

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Ticket to Ride or Come Together, and you instantly

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identify the song. It's not just rhythm. It's

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a melodic anchor. And beyond his technique, he

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influenced the actual sound of modern drumming

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itself. He was instrumental in popularizing the

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matched grip. Which is holding the sticks in

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a mirrored fashion over the traditional grip.

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Right. He also tuned his drums lower than was

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common, giving them a rounder, fatter tone. And

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he was early to use muffling devices on tonal

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rings to control cymbal and drum sustain. So

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his fat tom sounds and delicate cymbal work,

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as it's been described, were imitated by thousands.

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And when Ringo himself was asked to single out

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his finest recorded performance, he always pointed

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to the same song. The Beatles' B -side Rain.

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And that choice is fascinating because Rain is

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a masterclass in subtlety and dynamic complexity.

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His drumming is almost moving in counterpoint

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to the primary melody in the verses. It's incredibly

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precise control over timing and texture. It shows

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what he could do when he was fully engaged and

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trusted by the writers. I think it's helpful

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to contrast his philosophy with the technical

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giants of the era. Ringo admitted that watching

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a virtuoso like Buddy Rich... Doesn't turn me

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on. Right. He just didn't connect with drumming

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as acrobatics. And yet, he earned the respect

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from the next generation of technical masters.

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Phil Collins, a highly accomplished drummer himself,

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called Ringo vastly underrated. And he cited

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the complexity and placement of his fills on

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A Day in the Life. as definitive proof of his

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genius. Collins was so influenced that he openly

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stated his drumming on the 1983 Genesis track,

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That's All, was an intentional attempt at a classic

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Ringo Starr drum part. Now we absolutely must

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formally and finally debunk the infamous elephant

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in the room. The quote about him not being Even

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the best drummer in the Beatles. Yeah, we need

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to put this myth to bed for good. That line was

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not spoken by John Lennon, as is so often misattributed.

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It originated in a 1981 episode of the BBC Radio

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4 comedy show Radioactive. It then gained viral

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traction, so to speak, when the comedian Jasper

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Carrott popularized it in 1983. A full three

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years after Lennon's death. And the historical

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record just proves the contrary. John Lennon,

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in a 1980 interview, called Ringo a damn good

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drummer. He asserted that Ringo's talent was

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so undeniable it would have emerged even if he

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hadn't joined the Beatles. And furthermore, the

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recording historian Mark Lewis's detailed analysis

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confirms that over the entire eight -year recording

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career of the Beatles, there were fewer than

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a dozen instances where a session had to break

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down because of a mistake by Ringo. The vast

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majority of recording errors were attributable

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to the other three. This myth truly reflects

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public gossip and critical misunderstanding more

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than actual musical reality. So beyond his percussive

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genius, we have to celebrate his linguistic gifts.

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Yeah. The infamous Ringoisms. Oh, absolutely.

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These idiosyncratic turns of phrase provided

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several indelible song titles for the band. Our

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hard day's night and tomorrow never knows. are

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the two most famous examples they were these

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beautiful accidental malapropisms that paul mccartney

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noted were always wonderful very lyrical possessing

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a certain magic that fit the band's psychedelic

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and often surreal aesthetic perfectly and he

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contributed actual lyrics too the poignant specific

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line darning his socks in the night when there's

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nobody there in eleanor rigby that came directly

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from ringo it gave that song a touch of specific

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lived in humanity and finally His distinctive

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baritone voice. It was limited in range, which

00:22:22.539 --> 00:22:25.160
is why he rarely performed backing vocals. But

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Lennon or McCartney wisely tailored one song

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per album specifically to his vocal capabilities.

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And that gave us timeless hits designed for his

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persona, like Yellow Submarine and With a Little

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Help from My Friends. That unique compositional

00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:42.720
approach, the feel over the flash was key. But

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how did that translate once the safety net of

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the Beatles was gone? Right. Let's trace his

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journey through this. 70s. His solo career actually

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began amidst immediate tension with Paul McCartney.

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McCartney refused to clear his own solo album

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release date to accommodate Ringo's debut, Sentimental

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Journey. And it was a bizarre choice for a debut

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album, wasn't it? Totally. Sentimental Journey

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in 1970 was an album composed entirely of pre

00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.180
-rock standards with arrangements by legendary

00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:12.339
figures like George Martin and Quincy Jones.

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He wasn't trying to beat Lennon or McCartney

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at rock. He was carving out a nostalgic niche.

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And he followed that up the same year with the

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commercially unsuccessful country -inspired album

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Boku of Blues. Recorded with Nashville session

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players like Pete Drake. But while those early

00:23:28.410 --> 00:23:31.289
efforts showed him experimenting, his third album,

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Ringo from 1973, became his definitive commercial

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and critical peak. And this album established

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the template for his entire future career, relying

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on... powerful, high -profile collaborations.

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All three former Beatles contributed, and it

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resulted in massive hits. The chart -topping

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U .S. number one single, Year 16. And the beloved

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photograph. This album proved that the Ringo

00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.740
charm was bankable, but only when he surrounded

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himself with guaranteed high -quality talent

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and songwriting. He also scored massive singles

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outside of his albums during this period. It

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:07.599
Don't Come Easy, which he co -wrote with George

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Harrison. A US -UK top 10 hit. And Back Off Boogaloo,

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which became his most successful UK single, peaking

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at number two. But the mid -1970s brought a sharp

00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:20.079
downturn. And this coincided with Ringo's deepening

00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.710
struggle with addiction. The excess of that era

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led to some very dark places. He was part of

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the notorious Hollywood Vampires Drinking Club.

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A group that also included Keith Moon and Harry

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Nilsson, which became synonymous with the hedonistic,

00:24:33.369 --> 00:24:36.369
destructive rock and roll lifestyle. He later

00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:38.589
gave a chilling assessment of that period, didn't

00:24:38.589 --> 00:24:41.369
he? He did. He commented that the roles had reversed.

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We weren't musicians dabbling in drugs and alcohol.

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Now we were junkies dabbling in music. This was

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an era defined by indulgence rather than output.

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And in the midst of that excess, Ringo also branched

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out into incredibly surprising non -musical ventures.

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Like his furniture and interior design company,

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R .R. Ringo, or Robin. He co -ran it with Robin

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Crickshank from the late 60s into the 80s. And

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this wasn't some vanity project. They were serious.

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They designed apartments for people like Harry

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Nelson and Paul. Raymond, and they even secured

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contracts designing interiors for palaces in

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Abu Dhabi and Oman. It shows a surprising acumen

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for design and business outside of music. He

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also made his directorial debut with the T -Rex

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documentary Born to Boogie in 1972. But this

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period of indulgence took a severe toll on his

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health. In 1979, he became seriously ill with

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intestinal problems directly related to his childhood

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peritonitis. Requiring the surgical removal of

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several feet of his intestine, he came close

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to death yet again. Which brings us to the ultimate

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turning point, the crucial moment of redemption.

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In October... In November of 1988, following

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years of what he described as living in a blackout.

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He and his second wife, Barbara Bach, who he

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married in 1981 after meeting on the set of the

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film Caveman. They attended a detox clinic in

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Tucson, Arizona and embraced sobriety. And he

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reflected on the scale of the cost of that addiction,

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stating, years I've lost, absolute years, I lived

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in a blackout. Sobriety was a required foundation

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for the launch of his most successful, enduring,

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and I would say ingenious concept. Ringo Starr

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and his all -star band. We have to analyze this

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formula because it's a stroke of genius in music

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industry logistics. It is. The model is elegantly

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simple and massively reliable. The band features

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Ringo and a rotating lineup of highly successful

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musicians who perform his songs interspersed

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with their own well -known massive hit material.

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It's a business model built on guaranteed nostalgia

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and shared risk. The first show was July 23,

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1989 in Dallas, Texas. And it immediately clicked.

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It solves several problems for Ringo. He doesn't

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have to carry the entire set list of hits himself.

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He guarantees the audience a massive playlist

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of hits from people like Joe Walsh or Todd Rundgren.

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And most importantly, he gets to be the central

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drummer playing the parts he loves. Exactly.

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But let me offer a critical counterpoint here.

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While it's brilliant logistically and financially,

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I mean, it's a guaranteed success. Isn't the

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all -star band essentially an exercise in highly

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curated nostalgia? Does this format allow him

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to release challenging new music, or is he primarily

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just leveraging the past and curating a hit parade?

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That's a fair challenge. And it is absolutely

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rooted in nostalgia, but its genius lies in the

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adaptation. How so? Ringo recognized that his

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greatest asset post -Beatles wasn't necessarily

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his own individual creative output, but his position

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as the central connector in the rock and roll

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fraternity. So the all -star band allows him

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to monetize that network. Precisely. He maintains

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artistic relevance through collaboration while

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guaranteeing a high -quality product for the

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:49.519
fans, its longevity by association. That makes

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a lot of sense. It's an adaptable, self -sustaining

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ecosystem that has kept him touring successfully

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for over three decades. And his post -recovery

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career also includes continued high -profile

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collaborations with Paul McCartney, like on Ringo's

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.140
2010 album Why Not? And their joint performance

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of Queenie I. at the 2014 Grammys. He was also

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vital to the Beatles anthology project in the

00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:14.480
mid -90s, recording drums on the new tracks Free

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as a Bird and Real Love. And outside of his music

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and design career, he has this substantial film

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and television presence that often gets overlooked.

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After the Beatles films and roles and bizarre

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features like The Magic Christian Blind Man and

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The Ridiculous Caveman. He even portrayed the

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Pope. in ken russell's over -the -top film listomania

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but for an entire generation of children he is

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most recognizable as a children's television

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figure often through his voice Exactly. He was

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the gentle, soothing narrator for the first two

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series of the original UK children's show, Thomas

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the Tank Engine and Friends, from 1984 to 1986.

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And he then successfully transitioned to the

00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.539
American spinoff Shining Time Station, where

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he starred as the beloved, magical Mr. Conductor

00:28:59.660 --> 00:29:01.720
in the first season. It's an interesting pivot,

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maintaining that benevolent, friendly public

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persona. And finally, his recent output shows

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he's not slowing down at all. In the 2020s, Ringo

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demonstrated an incredible adaptability. In 2021,

00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.960
he announced that he preferred to release EPs

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like Zoom In, Change the World, and Rewind Forward

00:29:19.339 --> 00:29:21.980
rather than labor over full albums. And this

00:29:21.980 --> 00:29:24.380
approach fits the modern music economy perfectly,

00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:26.819
releasing consistent, smaller bursts of material.

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But despite that focus on EPs, he delighted fans

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by announcing the release of a full country and

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.240
roots album, Look Up, produced by T -Bone Burnett,

00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.660
slated for January 2025. This is a man who started

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with Biscuit Tins and TB, and he is still producing

00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.019
relevant music in his 80s. Just incredible. Before

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we close, let's bring it back to the personal

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life and the monumental, well -deserved honors

00:29:48.660 --> 00:29:51.119
he has accumulated. He was first married to Maureen

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Cox from 1965 to 1975, and they had three children,

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Zach, Jason, and Lee. And notably, his son, Zach

00:29:59.390 --> 00:30:01.849
Starkey, followed in his footsteps. He became

00:30:01.849 --> 00:30:04.069
a highly respected professional drummer who has

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played with bands like The Who and Oasis. His

00:30:07.009 --> 00:30:08.950
current marriage to the actress Barbara Bach,

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whom he married in 1981, has endured for over

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four decades now. They split their time between

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London and Los Angeles. He also holds the distinction

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of being the first Beatle to become a grandfather

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in 1985. And later, the first Beatle to become

00:30:23.029 --> 00:30:25.549
a great -grandfather in 2016. His professional

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accolades are genuinely staggering, reflecting

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his lifelong contributions. He is a double inductee

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into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. First as

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a Beatle in 1988 and later as a solo artist in

00:30:36.779 --> 00:30:39.700
2015. And that second induction is so critical

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as it was specifically in the musical excellence

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category. Which differentiates his entry from

00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:47.180
the others who were inducted as performers. This

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recognition finally formalized the long overdue

00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:52.099
appreciation for his technical and compositional

00:30:52.099 --> 00:30:54.339
contributions to the form. And then there are

00:30:54.339 --> 00:30:56.740
the Royal Honors. He and the other Beatles were

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all appointed members of the Order of the British

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Empire, MBE, in 1965. But in 2018, Ringo Starr

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was appointed a Knight Bachelor in the New Year

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Honors for services to music. Officially becoming

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.880
Sir Ringo Starr. He holds numerous other unique

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honors, including an Academy Award for Best Original

00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.579
Song Score for the film Let It Be in 1970, and

00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:20.920
an Honorary Doctor of Music degree from Berklee

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.970
College of Music in 2022. There is even a minor

00:31:23.970 --> 00:31:27.829
planet, 4150 star, named in his honor. The cosmos

00:31:27.829 --> 00:31:31.170
recognizes his influence. On a personal note,

00:31:31.309 --> 00:31:33.809
he maintains a distinctive lifestyle focused

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on health and peace. He's a strict vegetarian.

00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:39.069
Avoids garlic and onions due to allergies, and

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:41.450
he practices daily meditation. And if you ever

00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:44.069
see him or hear him speak, his personal philosophy

00:31:44.069 --> 00:31:46.809
and catchphrase is consistently simple and sincere.

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Peace and love. That phrase, which he champions

00:31:49.650 --> 00:31:52.190
relentlessly, speaks to his role not just as

00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:54.470
an artist, but as a key personal and artistic

00:31:54.470 --> 00:31:56.910
connector. He was the one member who managed

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to stay friendly and collaborative with John,

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Paul, and George, even during their most bitter,

00:32:01.789 --> 00:32:04.950
fractured solo periods. He's often seen as the

00:32:04.950 --> 00:32:07.589
emotional anchor, the most resilient, approachable

00:32:07.589 --> 00:32:10.210
member of that quartet. Which brings us to our

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final provocative thought for you to chew on.

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Ringo Starr was dismissed for decades by critics

00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:19.799
who prioritized technical brilliance. But his

00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.720
entire career, from surviving Dickensian poverty

00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.579
and illness, to inventing rhythms on a rubbish

00:32:25.579 --> 00:32:28.559
bin lid, to designing the immensely durable all

00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.240
-star touring model, proves that he possesses

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.359
an intangible compositional feel that cannot

00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.970
be taught. So why is it that this fundamental

00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:39.869
emotional quality in music, the ability to give

00:32:39.869 --> 00:32:42.509
a song an irreplaceable heartbeat, is so much

00:32:42.509 --> 00:32:44.569
harder for critics and the public to recognize

00:32:44.569 --> 00:32:47.390
and reward than mere virtuosity? Yet it is so

00:32:47.390 --> 00:32:50.089
often the key ingredient for genuine, multi -decade

00:32:50.089 --> 00:32:52.509
artistic resilience. It's the ultimate paradox

00:32:52.509 --> 00:32:55.250
of the foundational artist. He made genius sound

00:32:55.250 --> 00:32:57.609
effortless. We leave you to consider that foundational

00:32:57.609 --> 00:32:59.950
rhythm in your own deep dive. Until next time,

00:32:59.990 --> 00:33:00.670
keep digging.
