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Welcome to the Deep Dive, the show where we take

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a huge pile of research articles, books, you

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name it, and boil it all down to the absolute

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essentials. And our mission is always to get

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you past the surface level facts and into the

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real expertise. Today, we're tackling a subject

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so big, it's almost, you know, intimidating.

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We are doing a deep dive into the career, the

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influence, the entire legacy of Sir James Paul

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McCartney. It's such a necessary topic because

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for so many people, the name Paul McCartney just

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means one thing. The cute beetle? Exactly. The

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mop top, the writer of love songs. And I mean,

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that narrative is just way too simple. So our

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goal here is to get past that. to really understand

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the sheer complexity of his entire creative life.

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The eclecticism is staggering. You've got rock,

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pop, avant -garde, classical, electronica, and

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then you have the business mind that built this

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huge post -Beatles empire. Okay, let's just jump

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right in. We're looking at the bassist, the keyboardist,

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the co -songwriter for the Beatles. And, of course,

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one half of what is, without a doubt, the most

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successful songwriting partnership in music history

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with John Lennon. But before we get to the beginnings

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in Liverpool... We really have to frame this

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with the sheer scale of his success. We're talking

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about one of the best -selling music artists

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of all time. Of all time. And to put some numbers

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on that for you, the record sales are estimated

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at over 100 million. 100 million. But here's

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the number that really shows the impact. He has

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written or co -written a record 32 songs that

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have hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100.

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32. That that almost doesn't sound real. It's

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an unbelievable level of consistency. And if

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you're tracking the business side of the modern

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music world, you just can't ignore the bottom

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line. His fortune is estimated at around one

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billion pounds as of 2024. So this is not just

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a pop star. This is an industry. It is. And that

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massive commercial success. Well, it often overshadows

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the raw musical genius we're about to explore.

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His versatility is everything. Right. The different

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roles he played. Think about it. An innovative

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vocalist, a hugely melodic bass player, a great

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guitarist, a keyboardist who could do rock and

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roll one minute and classical the next. And a

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pretty solid drummer, too. He's a true polymath.

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He works across the entire spectrum of creating

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music. So let's go back to where that polymath

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started. Back to the foundations. We're in Liverpool,

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of course. James Paul McCartney, born in 1942.

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And the environment he grew up in was, well,

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it was all about music and stability. The support

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he had at home was surprisingly strong, especially

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from his father, Jim. Jim had been a salesman,

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a lathe turner, but he had this whole other life

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as a jazz musician. He led Jim Mack's jazz band

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back in the 20s, and then his mother, Mary, was

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a midwife. And her income was actually what allowed

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them to move to a slightly better part of town.

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So what you have is this kid growing up with

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music just in the air, but also in a very secure,

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very loving home. That's such an important dynamic.

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He had the encouragement, but the sources also

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point out he had this defiance against doing

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things the formal way. Oh, absolutely. His dad

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saw he had talent and suggested piano lessons.

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But Paul wasn't interested. No, he preferred

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to learn everything by ear. He had perfect pitch,

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this incredible ear for melody, and he just wanted

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to follow his instinct, not a rule book. It's

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funny, he actually tried out for the Liverpool

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Cathedral Choir and got rejected. Can you imagine

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one of the greatest musical voices of the century

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turned away right at the start? But the real

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turning point, the moment he goes from a kid

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who likes music to a budding artist, that happens

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when he's 14. This is the pivotal trade. It tells

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you everything about his priorities. His dad

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gives him a nickel -plated trumpet for his birthday.

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Great gift. A great gift. But Paul realized something

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immediately. You can't sing and play the trumpet

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at the same time. And singing was what he wanted

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to do? It was everything. So he needed a chord

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instrument. So he makes the trade, the trumpet

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for a 15 -pound Franus Zenith acoustic guitar.

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And that decision basically sets the course for

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his entire life. But it came with its own problem.

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Right. He's left -handed. And the guitar is strung

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for a right -handed player. He struggled like

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mad with it. Until he sees a poster of the country

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singer, Slim Whitman. That was his aha moment.

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He sees Whitman playing left -handed and a light

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bulb just goes on. So he just reverses the strings?

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Flips them around. Turns it into a lefty guitar,

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and that's such a perfect metaphor for his career,

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isn't it? Taking something standard and just

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flipping it on its head to make it work for him.

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Once he unlocked that, the songs just started

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coming. His very first song, I Lost My Little

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Girl, he wrote on that guitar. And it's amazing

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to think that a song as famous as When I'm 64,

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an early version of that, was written on the

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family piano around the same time. His early

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influences were pure American rock and roll.

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His idol was Little Richard. That raw energy.

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In fact, the first song he ever performed in

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public was Long Tall Sally. At a holiday camp

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talent show. Exactly. He starts his career literally

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with this declaration of pure rock and roll intent.

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Now we have to talk about the tragedy that really

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created the bond with his future partner. The

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loss of his mother, Mary, in 1956. Paul was only

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14. She died of an embolism. And that profound,

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sudden loss became this shared ground between

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him and John Lennon, whose own mother died just

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two years later. Having that shared trauma, losing

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their mothers as teenagers, that had to be a

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huge part of the connection that allowed them

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to create what they did. It's really the genesis

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of the partnership, and the meeting itself was

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just pure chance. July 6th, 1957, he meets John

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and his skiffle group, the Quarrymen, at a local

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church event. And skiffle was huge then. A mix

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of jazz, blues, folk. Easy to play. It was the

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gateway drug for an entire generation of British

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musicians. So Paul joins as a rhythm guitarist.

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Yeah. And that creative engine with Lennon starts

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right away. George Harrison joins in 58. And

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they go through all the classic garage band names,

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Johnny and the Moondogs, the Weird Spelling,

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Beatles. Before finally settling on the Beatles

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in August of 1960. Right before they hired Pete

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Best on drums and went off to Hamburg. Which

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is where they were really hammered into professional

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bands. That's where the legend begins. So the

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early 60s. The Beatles start to define their

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sound. And within that, McCartney gets the job

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that will define his musicianship. The reluctant

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bass player. He only took it over after Stuart

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Sutcliffe left in 61. And everyone agrees, nobody

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wanted that job. Pauly himself said it was because

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bass was seen as boring, just thumping along

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in the background. And yet he takes that unwanted

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job and makes the bass the melodic heart of the

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biggest band in the world. It's the first huge

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example of him turning a limitation into a strength,

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an innovation born out of necessity. And things

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move so fast. Love Me Do in 62, and by 64, it's

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full -blown Beatlemania. And the press just sticks

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him with this label, the cute Beatle, a label

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he'd spend the next 60 years trying to move past.

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The early hits, She Loves You, I Want to Hold

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Your Hand, they just cement that tight pop sound.

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But the real deep dive, the moment they go from

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pop stars to true artists, that starts in 1965.

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And a lot of that change was driven by Paul.

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The evidence is just overwhelming. In 65, you

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get Yesterday. A song so completely different

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from everything else they were doing. Musically,

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it was radical. Their first time using classical

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instruments, a string quartet, in a pop song.

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Imagine hearing that for the first time. It must

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have been a huge shock. And technically, it was

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just Paul, the first Beatles recording with only

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one member. And the proof of its genius is in

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the numbers, right? Over 2 ,200 recorded cover

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versions. It's just a perfect melody. Musicologists

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like Ian McDonald point to this as the moment

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Paul really starts to take over. McDonald said

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he was in the ascendant, not just as a songwriter,

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but as an instrumentalist, arranger, and the

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de facto musical director of the band. He was

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the one pushing them to get beyond that early

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cute phase. Which leads to Rubber Soul in 65.

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A huge step forward creatively, but it also started

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to create a rift with Lennon. The dynamic starts

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to shift. The recording sessions for that album

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already had increasing contention. The engineer

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said Paul was becoming absolutely finicky about

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every little detail. He was already thinking

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like a producer. Exactly. And that meticulous

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approach leads directly to Revolver in 1966,

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which is just this quantum leap in studio experimentation.

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And again, Paul is right at the center of it

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with Eleanor Rigby. A neoclassical tour de force.

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Just his vocal and a string octet. I mean, this

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is not a rock band anymore. It's sophisticated

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modern art. So after their final concert at the

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end of 66, they become a purely studio band.

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And Paul immediately uses that freedom to push

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the concept for Sick Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club

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Band. He invents this fictional band to give

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them the freedom to experiment. He said they

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hated that fucking four little mop top approach.

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He said they were men now, artists, not just

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performers. That's the core of his artistic drive,

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isn't it? Tearing down what's successful to build

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something new. And you hear that on tracks like

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A Day in the Life, the big climax of the album.

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It took a 40 -piece orchestra, which Paul and

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George Martin instructed to just create chaos.

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He wasn't just writing melodies. He was directing

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organized chaos. But then real chaos hit when

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their manager, Brian Epstein, died in August

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of 67. And the discipline was gone. Paul tried

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to step up and fill that leadership role. But

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his first big project, the Magical Mystery Tour

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film, was a total disaster. Critics hated it.

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Paul the artist was trying to be Paul the executive,

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and it just didn't work. So the endgame starts.

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The sessions for the White Album and Let It Be

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are just full of tension. If you've seen the

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documentaries, you see Paul trying so hard to

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hold it all together, almost lecturing the others.

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He was trying to bring back the discipline that

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Epstein had provided. In the middle of all this,

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he finds some personal stability, marrying Lindy

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Eastman in March of 69. And they managed to pull

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together one last time for Abbey Road. Which

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was really a compromise. The big medley on side

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two was Paul's idea to wrap things up symphonically.

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But the end was just drawn out and painful. Lennon

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quits privately in 69. And then Paul makes the

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public announcement on April 10, 1970, citing

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all the business disagreements over their new

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manager, Alan Klein. And the legal mess took

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years to untangle. Lawsuits went on until 1989.

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What an end to an era. A spectacular end. The

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breakup of the Beatles could have just destroyed

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a lesser artist. But McCartney just launches

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straight into chapter two. And he does it with

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a lot of humility. That humility is so important

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for understanding the Wings era. He starts with

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his first solo album in 1970, just called McCartney.

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And it's basically him alone. It's a one -man

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album. He played everything. It was raw. It was

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intimate. And it went to number one in the U

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.S. It proved he could do it on his own. He follows

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that with Ram in 71. but he quickly realized

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he missed being in a band. He was really clear

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about that. When he formed Wings in 71 with Linda

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and Denny Lane, his whole mission was, let's

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go back to square one. No super group. Exactly.

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He knew he couldn't compete with the ghosts of

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the Beatles, so he had to build something completely

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new. And the way he did it was just brilliant.

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The famous Van Tour of 1972. It was the total

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opposite of Beatlemania. They just drove around

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the UK in a van, unannounced, playing surprise

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gigs at universities. And getting paid in coins

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from the students. The whole point was to strip

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away the baggage. They played almost no Beatles

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songs. It was about proving the new band on its

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own merits. And that gritty back -to -basics

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approach really worked. The momentum starts building

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in 1973 with the James Bond theme, Live and Let

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Die. Which was huge. Nominated for an Oscar.

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It showed he was still comfortable mixing that

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rock bombast with big orchestral arrangements.

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But the real defining album for Wings was Band

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on the Run. And it was recorded under pretty

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difficult circumstances. Two of the band members

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quit right before they were supposed to fly to

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Lagos, Nigeria to record. So it was just Paul,

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Linda, and Denny Lane. That adversity just forced

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them to rely on Paul's musicianship. And it pay

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off. Band on the Run was a massive hit. The UK's

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first ever platinum album. So by 1975, he's feeling

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confident enough to start embracing his past

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again. The Wings Over the World tour was this

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huge moment. It was the first time he started

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playing Beatles songs live again with Wings.

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He was reclaiming his own legacy. On his own

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terms. And their biggest hit single came in 1977.

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Olive Kintyre. Which was just an unprecedented

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smash in the UK. It sold two and a half million

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copies, which was double the previous record

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holder. The previous record holder was... She

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Loves You. He broke his own record. But just

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like the Beatles, Wings eventually fell apart.

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The last album, Back to the Egg, had one amazing

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high point. The Rockestra session. A supergroup

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with members of The Who, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin.

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I mean, it was legendary. But the album itself

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was a disappointment. And that, plus disagreements

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over money, and then Paul's cannabis bust in

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Tokyo in 1980, which canceled a huge tour. It

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all just led to the end of Wings in April. 1981.

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So in the 80s, he pivots again. He moves away

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from the band idea and becomes this ultimate

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collaborator. Bridging genres and generations.

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The early 80s are defined by these massive duets.

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Ebony and Ivory with Stevie Wonder in 82. Which

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became his 28th number one single on the Billboard

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charts. And then two huge hits with Michael Jackson,

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The Girl Is Mine and Say Say Say. That pairing

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with Jackson just connected two eras of pop royalty.

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It kept him right at the top of the charts. But

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not every project in the 80s was a hit. We have

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to mention the 1984 film, Give My Regards to

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Broad Street. Ah, the film. Critics just destroyed

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it, called it characterless and pointless. But,

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and this is the key thing about McCartney. The

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soundtrack was gold. It went to number one in

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the UK. So Paul, the filmmaker, might have failed,

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but Paul, the musician, was still untouchable.

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He also played a huge part in Live Aid in 1985.

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He performed Let It Be, but his microphone was

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dead for the first two minutes. Can you imagine?

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Paul McCartney and nobody can hear him. They

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got it fixed, though. They did. And the decade

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ended on a real high note for him, critically.

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Flowers in the Dirt in 1989 with Elvis Costello.

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Yeah. A big success. It showed he could still

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work with the sharpest contemporary artists and

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make vital new music. And as a live act, he was

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just a giant. The world tour from 89 to 90 was

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massive. He played for 184 ,000 people in Rio

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de Janeiro, the largest paying stadium crowd

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in history. Setting new records, decades into

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his career. It's incredible. Okay, let's get

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into the centerpiece of this deep dive, the craft.

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We keep calling him a self -taught genius. What

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does that actually mean when you listen to the

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music? It means he worked on instinct. He had

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a perfect pitch and these incredible ears. He

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wasn't thinking about music theory. He was feeling

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his way through it. He compared himself to primitive

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cave artists who drew without training. It's

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a great analogy. Creation comes first. The rules

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come later. And that intuitive approach is exactly

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what let him revolutionize the bass guitar. The

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instrument he got stuck with. Right. And he turned

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it from a background instrument into a lead melodic

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voice. He was listening to a lot of Motown, especially

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James Jamerson. His hero. His hero. Because Jamerson's

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bass lines were like a second melody weaving

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all around the vocal. Paul took that idea and

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put it into a rock context. And it's why he's

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always ranked as one of the greatest bassists.

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Even Lennon said that half the bass lines you

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hear today are just ripped off from Paul's Beatles

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work. That's the ultimate praise, really. So

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where can you hear that evolution happening?

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It starts to shift with She's a Woman, but the

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huge technical leap is on Rubber Soul. On a track

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like The Word, you can hear him just flying all

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over the neck of the bass. But the absolute peak,

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the moment that redefined the instrument, is

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the B -side Rain. Rain is just astonishing. His

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playing on that is what you'd call lead bass.

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The rest of the band is holding down the rhythm,

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and his bass is off on its own melodic adventure.

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It's almost a counter melody to the song itself.

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It really is. Some people say it's so inventive

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it almost overwhelms the track. And he himself

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said his most creative bass playing was on Sweet

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Pepper, especially on Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

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And for the gearheads, it was mostly the violin

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-shaped Huffner bass live. but a Rickenbacker

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in the studio. The Rickenbacker had a much sharper,

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more cutting sound that was perfect for recording

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those intricate lines. But moving on from bass,

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the sheer number of instruments he mastered is

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just incredible. His acoustic guitar playing

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is fantastic. On a song like Blackbird, he's

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using this finger -picking style where he's pulling

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two strings at once to sound like a more complex

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folk player. And what often gets overlooked is

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that he was a really great lead electric guitarist,

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too. A very distinctive one. He played that sharp

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slide solo. Solo on Drive My Car, the crazy screaming

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guitar on Helter Skelter. And even the solo on

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Georgia's song Paxman. Which is pretty bold.

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He loved his Epiphone Casino guitar because it

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was semi -hollow, so he could get all this amazing

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feedback and sustain out of it at high volumes.

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It gave his solos that wilder, less polished

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sound. And then you have his keyboard playing.

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He could do the Fats Domino rock and roll bounce

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on Lady Madonna or the beautiful gospel feel

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of Let It Be. He was also right there at the

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start with electronic instruments. An early adopter.

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He was playing the Moog synthesizer on Abbey

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Road on Maxwell's Silver Hammer, this huge, complicated

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machine creating sounds no one had ever heard

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in a pop song. And the Mellotron on Strawberry

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Fields Forever. That iconic wobbly flute sound.

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That was him. And on top of all that, he's a

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great drummer. He played drums on all his solo

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McCartney albums and on Band on the Run. a true

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one -man band. He even played drums on a Foo

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Fighters song in 2017. Which brings us to the

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most experimental side of him, the avant -garde

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stuff that completely shatters the cute Beatle

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image. This is him in mid -60s London, getting

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deep into the art scene, influenced by composers

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like John Cage. He started making what he called

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electronic symphonies with tape loops. So what

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does that mean in practice in 1966? It means

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physically recording sounds onto magnetic tape

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and then literally cutting it up with a razor

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blade. splicing the pieces together into loops,

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playing them backwards, speeding them up, slowing

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them down. It's manual physical electronic music.

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Total analog control over sound. And these weren't

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just home experiments. Those tape loops ended

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up on Tomorrow Never Knows and The Fool on the

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Hill. They became part of the sound of the Beatles'

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most psychedelic period. And that experimental

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drive never left him. In the 90s, he started

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a pure electronica project under a pseudonym.

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The Fireman. With the producer Youth. They made

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three albums of ambient electronic soundscapes.

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This wasn't Paul the songwriter. This was Paul

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the sonic scientist, just exploring texture and

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mood completely anonymously. So McCartney isn't

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just a musician. He's a very smart, very rich

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businessman who learned some hard lessons early

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on about ownership. After the Beatles fell apart,

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he built his own fortress, MPL Communications.

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a publishing company which is now a giant it

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owns over 25 000 copyrights and not just his

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own stuff no things like the rights to classic

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musicals guys and dolls grease annie but the

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big shadow over his entire business career is

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the Northern Song Saga. It's the great irony.

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Northern Songs published the Lennon -McCartney

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catalog, and they lost control of it. It was

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famously bought by his friend Michael Jackson

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in 1985. Which created a huge rift between them.

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It did. So the most successful songwriters in

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history didn't own their own songs. But he did

00:20:01.470 --> 00:20:03.349
manage to get a couple of them back. Just to

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Love Me Do and P .S. I Love You, which is what

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led to the big legal fight later on. In 2017,

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he sued Sony ATV. Based on a part of U .S. copyright

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law that says creators can reclaim their works

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after 56 years. And he won. Right. Or at least

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they settled. They reached a confidential settlement.

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So he finally regained at least some measure

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of control over his own legacy. And beyond the

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boardroom, his creative energy spilled over into

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visual arts. He started painting seriously in

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the 80s, inspired by watching the artist Willem

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de Kooning work. And he got pretty good. He had

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his first exhibition in Germany in 1999, showing

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portraits of Lenin, David Bowie, Andy Warhol.

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Even his official coat of arms is a piss of art.

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It has a liver bird holding a guitar and four

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little emblems that look like beetle backs. He's

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also a successful author, poetry. Children's

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books. Yay, Grand Dude was a big hit. And he

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and Linda became these really influential activists,

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especially for animal rights. Their vegetarian

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story is so famous. It's a great one. They were

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eating lamb for dinner while watching little

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lambs playing in a field outside their window.

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And the connection just clicked. They stopped

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eating meat right then and there in 1975 and

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became lifelong advocates. He's also campaigned

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against landmines, seal hunting. He even called

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for ecocide to be made a crime at the International

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Criminal Court. Which brings us right up to the

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present day and his most recent activism, the

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protest against generative AI. This is where

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the tech pioneer of the 60s meets the tech protester

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of the 2020s. It's a fascinating turn. In November

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of 2025, he released his first new recording

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in five years. And it was. A nearly silent track.

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Just some quiet hiss and a few little noises.

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It was on a protest album, and his track was

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meant to symbolize the silencing of human artists

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if their rights aren't protected from AI theft.

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So his fear is that AI will just destroy the

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ability for young songwriters to have a career.

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Exactly. It's a direct call for government protection

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for artists. That tension with technology really

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makes you think about his relationships with

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the other Beatles after the breakup. The one

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with John Lennon was obviously the most complex.

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They had their ups and downs. Their last time

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together was just watching TV. Watching Saturday

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Night Live in 1976 when the host, Lorne Michaels,

00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:23.359
offered them $3 ,000 to reunite on the show right

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then and there. And they actually thought about

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doing it. For a minute, they almost just went

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down to the studio. It's a beautiful last memory.

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Paul said their last phone call just before John

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was killed was very friendly, which was a huge

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comfort to him. He always regretted his first

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public comment after the murder, though. Telling

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a reporter, it's a drag. He meant it in the sense

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of a profound wheat, a deep sadness, but it just

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came across as flippant, a misunderstanding he

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spent years explaining. His relationship with

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George Harrison was a bit more strained. George

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often talked about how bossy Paul was in the

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studio. George said Paul would make them work

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on 10 of his songs before they could even look

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at one of George's. He called him selfish. Which

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speaks to that directorial architect personality

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of Paul's. He had a vision. and he drove everyone

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towards it. But after George died, the affection

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was undeniable. Paul called him his baby brother

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and played this beautiful ukulele version of

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something at the concert for George. And then

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there's Ringo, the most consistent collaborator

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post -Beatles. Even though they had huge fights,

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Ringo quit the band for a bit during the White

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Album because he was so fed up with Paul criticizing

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his drumming on back in the USSR. But they always

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made up. And they've played on each other's records

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for decades. The most recent reunion in December

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2024 was really special. That was when he got

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his old bass back. His original Huffner violin

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bass, the one that was stolen in 1972. He got

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it back after 52 years and played it on stage

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with Ringo. an incredible full circle moment.

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In his later career, Paul has just refused to

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become a legacy act. He keeps pushing. which

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is most obvious when he tried to take on classical

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music. The Liverpool Oratorio in 1991. It was

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a huge, serious project. And it sold well. It

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topped the classical charts. But the critics

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were not kind. Some of the reviews were pretty

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brutal. One described the music as afraid of

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anything approaching a fast tempo. But Paul,

00:24:19.059 --> 00:24:20.779
you know, he just wrote a letter to the newspaper

00:24:20.779 --> 00:24:23.079
defending it. He quoted the exact tempos. He

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did. And he said, basically, History shows that

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critics are often wrong, so I'll let the people

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decide. He just has this unshakable self -belief.

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And he's still a major force on the album charts.

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Egypt Station in 2018 was his first number one

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album in the U .S. in 36 years. But the truly

00:24:39.900 --> 00:24:42.660
insane stack came with McCartney III in 2020.

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The one he recorded alone during lockdown. That

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album made him the first artist ever to have

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a new album in the top two chart spots in each

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of the last six decades. Six decades. That's

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just unprecedented. And his book, The Lyrics,

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was a massive bestseller. He's become a literary

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figure, too. As a live performer, he's still

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one of the biggest draws in the world. He's still

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headlining festivals, playing at huge global

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events like the Olympics. And memorably, he fronted

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the surviving members of Nirvana for a concert.

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The list of awards is just endless. Two Rock

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and Roll Hall of Fame inductions, 19 Grammys,

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an Oscar, an Emmy, knighthood. He's reached the

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pinnacle of achievement in pretty much every

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medium. And he stayed culturally relevant, collaborating

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with Kanye West and Rihanna in the 2010s. Introducing

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himself to a whole new generation. And he even

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had a cameo as a pirate in a Pirates of the Caribbean

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movie. Because why not? At this point, why not?

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So when you look at the whole picture, when you

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get past the cute beetle. What really defines

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Paul McCartney is this constant refusal to be

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put in a box. He co -wrote the world's biggest

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pop songs, and then he made weird electronic

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music as the fireman. He revolutionized the bass,

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built a business empire, and just set the standard

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for what it means to have an enduring, versatile

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career. And the motivation behind all of it,

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he summed it up himself. He said, I think there's

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an urge in us to stop the terrible fleetingness

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of time. Music. Try and capture one bloody moment,

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please. His whole career has just been an attempt

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to capture as many of those moments as possible.

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So as you reflect on all this, think about the

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central tension that runs through his entire

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life. In the 60s, he was the ultimate technological

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pioneer, using tape loops and synthesizers to

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push music into the future. But late in his career,

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he becomes a technological protester, releasing

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a silent track to warn against AI. So the question

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for you is this. Does his life show that true

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creative freedom only exists when technology

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is a tool for the artist, a new instrument, and

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not when it becomes something that consumes and

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replicates their work? And maybe more importantly,

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do new artists today even have the luxury that

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he had? The freedom to experiment and to fail

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without the fear of being creatively silenced

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before they've even begun. Something to think

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about. That's all for this deep dive. We'll see

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you next time.
