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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are tackling

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something huge. Ah, quite literally. Literally.

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We are doing a deep dive into Australia's largest

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and I think most misunderstood desert, the Great

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Victoria Desert. We're not just looking at it

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as a patch of hot sand. This is a landscape of,

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you know, extreme heat, very rare rain, and a...

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A really surprising hidden ecosystem. And a very

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complex human history on top of all that. Absolutely.

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That's right. The Great Victoria Desert, or the

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GVD as you'll hear it called, it's one of those

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places that's so isolated people tend to just

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gloss over it. Right. But it's officially classed

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as an ecoregion, and this is important, an interim

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Australian bioregion. What does that actually

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mean in simple terms? It means it's recognized

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on a national level for its unique biodiversity,

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its geology. It's a distinct place. spanning

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huge parts of Western Australia and South Australia.

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And the sources we've got today are just fantastic.

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They give us this complete picture from like

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the tiniest detail of how a plant survives all

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the way up to... The geopolitical scale of nuclear

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testing. Yeah. It's not just a physical journey.

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This is a dive into survival itself. So to get

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you oriented, picture the middle of Australia,

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but a bit south of the Tropic of Capricorn. Okay.

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We're talking coordinates around 29 degrees south,

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129 degrees... East. And our mission here really

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is to get past that stereotype of a barren wasteland.

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For sure. We need to walk away understanding

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its immense scale, the incredibly specialized

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life that has mastered this place and the strange

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paradox of its history. How it's both a sanctuary

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and... And a site of permanent human contamination.

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Exactly. So let's unpack this vast hidden world.

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Okay. So the first thing you have to grapple

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with when you talk about the GVD is just... The

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scale. It's staggering. Forget the Sahara for

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a second. In an Australian context, this is the

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biggest. This is number one. And it's so big

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that even the official measurements, kind of,

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they vary. I saw that. Why is that? Well, it

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depends on how you define the edges of an ecosystem,

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right? Is it this type of soil, that type of

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plant? So our sources give a range from about

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348 ,000 square kilometers. Which is already

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huge. All the way up to... Maybe 422 ,000 square

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kilometers. Wow. So to put that in perspective

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for someone listening, say, in Europe. You're

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talking about the entire size of Germany. The

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whole country. Or for American listeners, it's

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a bit bigger than the state of Montana. It's

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a landmass that just swallows countries whole.

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And that difference in the numbers, that just

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speaks to how remote it is. Right. It's hard

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to even survey it properly. For sure. But the

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number that really got me was the width. It's

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over 700 kilometers wide from west to east. That's

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just. An ocean of arid land. And that width has

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huge implications for the climate, for the ecology.

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You're crossing multiple, you know, microclimates

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and pressure systems. So to really understand

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it, you need to place it on the map next to its

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neighbors. Exactly. Its position is key. To the

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south, you've got the Nullarbor Plain. Which

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everyone knows is that super flat, treeless expanse.

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A huge limestone slab, basically. It's a very

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clear geological boundary. Then, if you go north

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of the GVD, you hit the Gibson Desert. To the

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west, you've got the Western Australian Mulga

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Shrublands, which are a little less dry. And

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then to the east. That's where it gets interesting

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with the stony deserts. Right. You butt up against

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the Tarare Sturt stony desert. And it's important

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to list these because the GVD is a transitional

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zone. It's not one single thing. So it's mostly

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sand ridges. But as you move east, it changes.

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Precisely. As you approach the Sturt stony desert,

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you start getting into what are called gibber

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plains. The boundaries aren't fences. They're

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these. slow ecological gradients. Let's dig into

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that landscape then, because the mental image

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of just endless sand dunes, that's wrong here.

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Totally wrong. It's a mosaic. Yes, there are

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sandhills, but they're not the massive shifting

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dunes you might imagine. They're smaller, more

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stable. And in between them? You have grassland

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plains and, fascinatingly, these huge salt lakes.

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Which aren't really lakes most of the time, I

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assume. No, they're ephemeral. They only hold

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water for a short time after a really big rainstorm.

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Most of the time, they're just these vast, white,

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salt -crusted pans. And then there's the feature

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I think is so cool, the desert pavement. The

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gibber planes. Yeah, the gibber planes. You have

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to understand the gibber to understand the GVD.

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The landscape is covered in this tightly packed

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surface of small, dark, weathered pebbles. The

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gibbers. How do they even form? It's a process

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called deflation. Over thousands of years, the

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wind just blows all the fine sand and dust away.

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So it leaves the heavy stuff behind. It leaves

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the heavier, gravelly stuff. And it forms this

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interlocking armor on the surface of the desert.

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It's incredibly stable, but it's brutal for anything

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trying to grow or dig. That armor sounds like

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it would affect the climate, too. Yeah. What

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are the conditions that create this kind of world?

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Well, the number one thing is the low end gem.

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And totally unpredictable rainfall. Right. The

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average is only 200 to 250 millimeters a year,

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about 8 to 10 inches. But the key word there

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is average. Exactly. The irregularity is what

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kills you. Yeah. Life out there isn't about surviving

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the average. It's about surviving the longest

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possible time without any rain. And droughts

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can go for years. And yet, in the middle of all

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that dryness, you have these bursts of just...

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intense weather. This is the really interesting

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part. The GVD gets on average 15 to 20 thunderstorms

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a year. That seems like a lot for a desert. It

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is. And it feels like this violent compensation

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for the dry spells. These storms are the lifeblood

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of the whole ecosystem. So they're not gentle

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showers. Oh, no. They're often very localized,

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incredibly intense, and they can dump a huge

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chunk of the entire year's rainfall in just a

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few hours. And that's what fills the salt lakes.

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It fills the lakes, the clay pans. It triggers

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this frantic, super fast life cycle for certain

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plants, insects, and as we'll get into, some

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amazing frogs. But on a day -to -day basis, it's

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the temperature that's the real challenge. For

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sure. The extremes are just... punishing. Summer

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daytime temps are like a furnace. You're easily

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looking at 32 to 40 degrees Celsius. It's 90

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to 104 Fahrenheit. Right. And that heat is what

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drives so many animals to live underground. But

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then the winter brings this surprising relief.

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That's the crucial contrast. Winter days are

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beautiful. They drop to, you know, 18 to 23 Celsius,

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which is in the 60s and low 70s Fahrenheit. That's

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actually quite pleasant. It's a critical period

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of relief. It lets animals forage without as

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much stress, and it's when plants can recover

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if there's any moisture left in the soil. It's

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a cycle of extreme stress and relative calm.

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So it's a desert of extremes, of irregularity,

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and it's armored. It demands, well, incredible

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determination from anything that tries to live

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there. And that vast punishing place was, for

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early European explorers, this just... almost

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impossible barrier. The history really begins

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with the attempts to cross it, starting with

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the guy who actually gave the desert its name.

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That would be Ernest Giles, a British -born Australian

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explorer. In 1875, he finally did it. He crossed

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the desert. And he named it in classic 19th century

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fashion. After the reigning monarch, he called

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it the Great Victoria Desert. There's a real

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irony in that, isn't there? This incredibly remote,

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uniquely Australian place. It's named for a queen

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and a palace on the other side of the world.

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It just perfectly captures the colonial mindset

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of the era. You know, a place wasn't really real

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until it had a European name on it. And his journey

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wasn't a walk in the park. Not at all. He was

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out there with no real maps, no modern gear,

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relying on bush skills and very often on the

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knowledge of the local indigenous people he met.

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He really laid the groundwork. And after him,

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there was this continuous push to map it and,

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more importantly, to find a use for it. Right.

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In 1891, you had David Lindsay's expedition,

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which went north to south. And then as the country

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developed, the motivation changed. It wasn't

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just about exploring anymore. It was about money.

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It was about resources. That brings us to Frank

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Hahn. He was the prospector. Exactly. He spent

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five years from 1903 to 1908 just combing the

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desert, looking for gold. Did he find any? Not

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in any real commercial quantity, but these guys,

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Hahn and Giles and Lindsay, they established

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the first rough routes. They found the water

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sources. And then we jump forward a few decades

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into the mid 20th century and we get the person

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who. probably have the biggest impact on how

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people get around there today. Len Beadle. Len

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Beadle. His work in the 1960s wasn't about gold.

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It was driven by the Cold War. Right. Access.

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Access. He was a surveyor, and he's famous for

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building the first tracks right through the heart

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of the desert. Roads like the Ann Beadle Highway.

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And we should be clear. When we say highway,

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we're not talking about pavement and service

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stations. Oh, no. These are rough, unsealed tracks.

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They're incredible feats of engineering and sheer

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bloody -mindedness, but they're not highways.

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And they were built for a very specific and much

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darker purpose. They were. They were built to

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service the other human activity that came to

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define the GVD after World War II. Nuclear weapons

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testing. Yes. It's a jarring transition, isn't

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it? It really is. You go from naming the land

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for a queen to using it as a bombing range. The

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very isolation that had protected its ecology

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for millennia suddenly made it the perfect target.

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Let's spend some time on this because it's a

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critical part of the story. The British nuclear

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tests. The British weapons trials of the 1950s

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and early 1960s. They were conducted right on

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the eastern edge of the GVD. Where exactly? The

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two main sites were named Maralinga and Emu Field.

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They conducted a series of atmospheric tests,

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you know, the big mushroom clouds, and then a

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lot of smaller ground -level trials. And these

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left behind a terrible legacy. A permanent one.

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The areas were contaminated with radioactive

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materials. The sources are really specific about

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one isotope in particular, plutonium -239. Why

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is that one so bad? It comes down to its half

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-life. Which is? Clutonium -239 has a half -life

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of about 24 ,100 years. 24 ,000 years. So any

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contamination isn't a temporary problem you can

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just clean up. It's a management problem that

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will outlast civilizations. So what does this

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all mean, connecting it to the present? The GBD

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is defined by this paradox. It's the ultimate

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paradox. The same isolation that lets you have

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these massive, pristine conservation zones. Which

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we'll get to. Is the exact same quality that

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appealed to weapons designers. who needed a place

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where, you know, a bit of radioactive fallout

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wouldn't immediately affect a major city. There

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were cleanup attempts, right? Yeah, there were,

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but they were, let's say, inadequate at first.

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A royal commission in the 1980s was scathing

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about the whole thing. So this is still an active

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problem. A very active problem. Managing the

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long -term threat of plutonium contamination

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in a place that is also a world biosphere reserve,

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that's probably the biggest human challenge the

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desert faces. Okay, so let's move from that human

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history to the biological resilience. Yeah. Section

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3 is about this incredible unseen ecosystem,

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the life that has figured out how to get by on

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next to no water. It's a masterclass in efficiency.

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The GVD is not barren at all. It's just very,

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very selective. And it all starts with the plants.

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It has to. The vegetation is the foundation.

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We're talking about a kind of wooded step, especially

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in the low areas, the swales between the sand

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ridges. So what are the dominant trees? I see

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a couple of types of eucalyptus mentioned. Yeah,

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you see a lot of mallees and related eucalypts,

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specifically eucalyptus gongiola carpa, the desert

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gum, and eucalyptus youngiana. And how do they

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do it? How do they survive years of drought?

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Two main tricks. First, they have these incredibly

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deep and widespread root systems. They're tapping

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into water far, far below the surface. And the

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second trick has to do with fire. Absolutely.

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The Mallee eucalypts are famous for their ligmotubers.

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What's that? It's this big, woody swelling at

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the base of the trunk, mostly underground. It's

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packed with nutrients and dormant buds. So when

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a fire comes through and burns the whole tree

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to the ground... It can just re -sprout from

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the base? Instantly. It's built for drought and

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for fire. A perfect desert adaptation. But the

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real star of the show, the thing that covers

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the ground everywhere, is the spine effects.

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You cannot talk about the Australian arid zone

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without talking about spine effects. Specifically,

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a species called Triodia bastoe. And it's not

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like a normal long grass. Not at all. It grows

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in these big, dense, spiky hummocks. It's the

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engineering marvel of the desert floor. How so?

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What does it do? Well, it stabilizes the sand,

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for one. But more importantly, it creates microclimates.

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The base of a SpineFX clump is way cooler and

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holds more moisture than the sand around it.

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So it's like a little apartment building for

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desert creatures. It's exactly that. It's the

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refuge for insects, for lizards, for tiny marsupials.

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It's the cornerstone of the whole habitat. Which

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brings us to the fauna. And the big survival

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strategy here is just avoidance. Exactly. If

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you can't handle 40 degree heat, you just get

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out of it. You become a burrower, a subterranean

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specialist. This is the hidden zoo of the GVD.

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Okay, so give us the stars of this underground

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world. Well, number one has to be the southern

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marsupial mole, Noderictes typhlops. This thing

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is incredible. It's almost completely blind.

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Its eyes are just little vestiges under the skin.

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It doesn't dig permanent burrows. It literally

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swims through the loose sand. It swims through

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the earth. Yes. Its front claws are like massive

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shovels and it just pushes through the sand looking

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for insects collapsing the tunnel behind it as

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it goes. Wow. It's an unbelievable level of specialization.

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And then there's the water holding frog. The

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name kind of gives it away. It's maybe the ultimate

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example of adapting to irregular rain. When there's

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a huge downpour, the frog comes to the surface,

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eats like crazy, and absorbs a massive amount

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of water. It just bloats itself up. It does.

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And then as the ground dries out, it digs itself

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deep, maybe a meter down. Yeah, this is where

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it gets weird. It secretes this waterproof mucus

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cocoon all around its body. It seals itself inside

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this bag made of its own slime, and it just...

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shuts down its metabolism slows to almost nothing

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and it can stay down there for years for years

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possibly even longer just waiting for the seismic

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shock of the next heavy rain to wake it up that

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is just an amazing survival hack it's an evolutionary

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insurance policy against drought okay so let's

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talk about the reptiles because this is where

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it gets really interesting including some very

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recent discoveries reptiles are kings out here

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they can manage the heat by moving in and out

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of the sun but the big aha moment from the sources

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is about the central ranges taipan a taipan one

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of the world's most venomous snakes exactly and

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it was only formally identified as a distinct

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species in 2007 2007 that's less than 20 years

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ago It tells you everything you need to know

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about how vast and unstudied this region still

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is. We're still finding new species of large,

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highly venomous snakes out there. That's mind

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-blowing. And what about the predators at the

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top of the food chain? Well, the dingo is a key

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predator, and its presence here is really significant

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because the GVD is north of the famous dingo

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fence. So what does that mean, being north of

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the fence? It means the dingo population is largely

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unregulated by humans. of the fence, they're

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mostly eradicated to protect sheep. Here, they

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play their natural role in the ecosystem. Which

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is actually a good thing for conservation. It's

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a critical thing. Dingoes help control the populations

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of feral cats and foxes. Which are devastating

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for native wildlife. Exactly. So ironically,

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the dingo acts as a guardian for the smaller

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native marsupials and birds. And then you've

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got the giant lizards. The big monitors. You

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have the parntii, which can grow over two meters

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long. One of the biggest lizards in the world.

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Wow. And the San Goanna. They're the patrols

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of the sand ridges, eating pretty much anything

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they can find. So it's clear life isn't just

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surviving here. It's engineered these incredible

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solutions. Highly sophisticated solutions to

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the most extreme problems you can imagine. Which

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leads us straight into how humans fit into this

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picture today. We've done the geography, the

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climate, the amazing biology. Now let's focus

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on the people. Right. Because the human history

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here goes back tens of thousands of years before

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Ernest Giles showed up. And today, the human

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population is predominantly indigenous Australians.

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Yes, the people who have always been there. The

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sources mention several specific groups, the

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Kogara, the Merning, and the Pichanchichara people.

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And there's a really interesting point in the

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source material that... Unlike some other remote

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areas, the Aboriginal populations here have been

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increasing. Which points to ongoing cultural

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strength and resilience, especially in places

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where communities have been able to maintain

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their connection to the land and traditional

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practices. And there are active efforts to support

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that, like the Willy Rara Creative Programs.

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Those programs are vital. They're about young

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Indigenous adults actively maintaining and evolving

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their culture. It's not about freezing it in

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time. It's not just about preserving old songs.

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No, it's about traditional art, but also modern

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art. It's about land management techniques like

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controlled burning and making sure that deep

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knowledge of the environment is passed on to

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the next generation. Which is essential both

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for culture and for modern ecological management.

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Absolutely. But even with these thriving communities,

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the place is still incredibly isolated. Getting

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around is a major challenge. The isolation is

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profound. Access is still mostly limited to those

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rough tracks that Len Beadle built back in the

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60s. The Connie Sue Highway, the Anne Beadle

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Highway. Right. You need a serious four by four

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vehicle and you need to be completely self -sufficient.

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And that very difficulty of access, it acts as

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a natural filter. It limits the pressure from

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the outside world. And that leads us perfectly

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into the conservation story of the GVD. It seems

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like all the things that make it so hard to live

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in have also helped to protect it. That's the

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great irony. The harshness has been its salvation.

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Because it's never been suitable for large -scale

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agriculture or ranching, many of the habitats

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are basically pristine. And the numbers on this

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are amazing. The key statistic is that 31 % of

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the desert is officially protected. 31%. And

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when you remember, we're talking about an area

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the size of Germany that is a monumental conservation

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achievement. A huge area of land. It's a vast

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network of protected areas, including some that

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are recognized globally. The prime example is

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the Mamungari Conservation Park in South Australia.

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Which used to be called the Unnamed Conservation

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Park. Which just tells you how remote it is.

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Yeah. And Mamungari is not just a park. It's

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one of Australia's 14 World Biosphere Reserves,

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which is a designation from... It recognizes

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its global importance. And the management of

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these areas is really modern with a big emphasis

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on indigenous co -management. The governance

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is key. A huge part of this protected network

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is made up of what are called indigenous protected

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areas or IPAs. What's an IPA? It's where the

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aboriginal traditional owners voluntarily agree

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with the government to manage their land for

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biodiversity conservation. It's a fusion of ancient

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traditional knowledge and modern conservation

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science. So the people with the deepest connection

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to the land are the ones leading its protection.

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In many cases, yes, especially in South Australia,

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where the Anangu Pitjantjatjara or APY lands

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make up a massive local government area that's

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under indigenous ownership and management. And

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this is a whole network of parks and reserves,

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not just one big one. It's a mosaic. You have

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the IPAs, you have state -run nature reserves

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like the Great Victoria Desert Nature Reserve

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in WA, and then national parks like Lake Gairdner.

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It's this multi -layered system designed to protect

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all the different habitat types across the desert.

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It's just a stunning success story. Especially

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when you remember that geographically, it's right

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next door to the areas contaminated by those

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nuclear tests. That is the defining contrast

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of the GVD. It's one of the most ecologically

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intact arid zones left on Earth, largely thanks

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to its isolation and the dedication of its traditional

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owners and conservationists. Okay, so let's try

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to wrap this up. Let's consolidate our deep dive

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into the Great Victoria Desert for you. We've

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really hit on three big contrasting themes. First,

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just the immense scale. It's Australia's largest

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desert, and it's not just sand. It's this mix

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of sand hills and those tough pebble -armored

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gibber plains. All of it shaped by that rhythm

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of long droughts broken by these intense, dramatic

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thunderstorms. Second, its history is this total

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paradox. You have the classic European exploration

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story with Ernest Giles. And then this dark 20th

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century shadow of nuclear testing. at Maralinga.

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Right, which left behind this permanent legacy

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of contamination, especially that plutonium -239,

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which needs to be managed for, what, tens of

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thousands of years? A geological timescale, basically.

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And third, the ecology. It's a master class in

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adaptation. We talked about being a subterranean

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survivor. The sand -swimming mall, the frog in

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its mucus cocoon. All the way up to the dingo,

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acting as this vital conservationist north of

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the dingo fence. And all of that has led to this

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huge conservation success, 31 % of the desert

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protected. Much of it through indigenous -led

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initiatives like the IPAs and the Mamungari World

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Biosphere Reserve. So if we connect this to the

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bigger picture. What's so amazing is the resilience.

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The desert has absorbed some of the most powerful

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technology humans have ever created, atomic bombs.

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And yet its unique ecology and its ancient cultures,

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they just, they persist. They thrive. So that

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leaves a really important question for you to

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think about. The nuclear contamination zones

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and the World Biosphere Reserve are... Geographically,

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very close neighbors. Right next to each other

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in some cases. So given the 24 ,000 -year half

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-life of plutonium, how do you practically balance

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the need to manage those contaminated sites for

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millennia with the goal of keeping the areas

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right next door truly pristine? And how do those

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historic threats actually inform modern conservation?

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Does having a permanent, off -limits, hazardous

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zone nearby ironically help protect the surrounding

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land by keeping people out? It's something to

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think about. We encourage you to look at a map,

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see how these zones of destruction and preservation

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actually overlap in this vast, hidden, and truly

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incredible world.
