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Welcome to the Deep Dive. We're here to unpack

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your source material, pulling out all those crucial

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insights and bits of knowledge. Today we're diving

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deep into what has to be one of the greatest

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comeback stories in modern music. We're talking

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Bonnie Raitt and her 10th studio album, Nick

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of Time. Yeah, this is more than just an album

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deep dive, isn't it? It's really about a complete

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transformation. When this record came out March

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21st, 1989, it wasn't just successful. It felt

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like... Well, vindication. It was this huge commercial

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and critical breakthrough. But it came after

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years, literal years, where the industry had

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basically written her off. She was fighting some

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serious personal demons, really struggling. And

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the numbers alone just tell this incredible story

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of, well, resurrection, basically. Nick of Time

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didn't just make the top ten. It went all the

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way to number one on the Billboard 200, sold,

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what was it, five million copies. Astonishing.

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And then it just swept the 1990 Grammys. Three

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major wins, including the big one, Album of the

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Year for her and producer Dawn Woz. Right. And

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you've got to remember the context here. 1989,

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what was big? Synthesized pop, hair metal bands,

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New Wave was still around. So for a blues rock

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veteran, someone nearly 40, who'd actually been

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dropped by her previous label, to come out with

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this kind of understated, really honest record

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and conquer the Grammys like that. It says so

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much about the album itself, its quality, its

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sincerity. Absolutely. And its legacy is still

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growing, isn't it? This isn't just some nostalgia

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piece. We're talking about, you know, significant

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American art. In 2022, the Library of Congress

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picked Nick of Time for preservation. It's in

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the National Recording Registry now. Yeah, that's

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the official recognition, right? Deemed culturally...

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Historically or aesthetically significant, that's

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about as big a validation as you can get. And

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that really sets up our mission today, I think.

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We need to trace that whole dramatic story. We

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have to understand just how deep the hole was

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that she climbed out of. How did Bonnie Raitt

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go from being broke, emotionally shattered, basically

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hitting rock bottom, to this massive industry

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-defining success? We'll look at the... really

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cruel professional stuff she went through, the

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unexpected partnership she formed, and the kind

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of thematic honesty that just made this underdog

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record resonate so powerfully. Okay, let's start

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there then. Let's look into that abyss, because

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you really can't appreciate the win without understanding

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how bad things got for her professionally between,

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say, 1983 and 1988. Yeah, it's a tough part of

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the story, for sure. And the details really show

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you, well, the harsh side of the music business.

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Raitt had been respected for years, you know,

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a real musician's musician. But her albums just

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weren't selling in the huge numbers major labels

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wanted. So the axe finally fell in 1983. Warner

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Bros. Records dropped her. And the reason they

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gave was just purely business, right? The sales

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figures for The Glow in 79 and Greenlight in

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82 just weren't good enough for them. Bottom

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line decision. Exactly. Cold calculation. But

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here's where it gets almost unbelievably cruel.

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The timing. They made that decision to fire her

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one day after she'd finished recording her next

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album, an album she'd been working on, tentatively

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called... Tongue in groove. Wow. Just think about

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that for a second. You finish this huge creative

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effort. The recording's done. You're probably

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feeling relieved, maybe even proud. You've poured

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everything into it. And then, bam, the next morning,

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you get the call. You're fired. It's like a professional

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gut punch right when you're most invested, most

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vulnerable. And just when you think it couldn't

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get worse, it does. She was fired, but the contract

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wasn't entirely severed. It still had power over

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her. So two years later, this is 1986 now, Warner

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Bros. Oh, that's just... Demoralizing doesn't

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even cover it. So she's legally forced to promote

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an album she has no control over anymore, released

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by the very label that told her she wasn't worth

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investing in. She has to go out, tour, talk it

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up, and split the profits with the company that

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dumped her. Exactly. She essentially had to promote

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her own professional failure, legally bound to

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it. It kept her tied to this past she desperately

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needed to move on from. And that financial drain,

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that creative humiliation, it all happened right

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alongside a major personal breakdown. The professional

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side was bad, yeah, but the sources are clear.

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Her whole life was kind of imploding in the mid-'80s.

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Right. There were relationship breakdowns, too.

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The end of her affair with producer Rob Friboni

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around 85. But the money problems sound like

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they were the immediate trigger for things really

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spiraling. Yeah, it got to the point where she

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couldn't even afford to pay her backing band

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anymore. Imagine having to tell your band, the

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musicians who've been with you, your creative

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family, that you just can't pay them. The financial

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stress, the isolation. It created this vacuum.

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And the sources say that led to some pretty destructive

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coping mechanisms. Understandable, maybe, but

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destructive. Severe depression set in. And Raitt

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herself said she started dealing with it through

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excessive eating, drinking, and partying. Yeah,

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and this wasn't just, you know, typical rock

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star behavior. This sounds like a serious uncontrolled

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spiral driven by despair. She really summed up

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how bad it got. She admitted she hit absolute

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rock bottom. Her quote was, I wasn't kicking

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and screaming into dementia, but I did have a

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complete emotional, physical, and spiritual breakdown.

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That's a powerful quote. They suggest this quiet

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internal collapse, not some big public meltdown,

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just wreckage inside. So she's promoting nine

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lives, feeling completely broken, no direction.

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Which brings us to the next phase, the turning

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point. How do you possibly pull out of that kind

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of complete breakdown? Well, the first bit of

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luck is almost like something out of a movie.

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And it comes via pop royalty. She's on the road

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touring for Nine Lives, the album she hates promoting.

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And Prince attends her show at the Beverly Theater

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in L .A. Yes, that Prince. Wow. OK. Prince was

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huge at Warner Bros. then. Massive clout. He

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must have seen past all the industry nonsense

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and just heard the talent. Absolutely. The sources

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say he was a fan. And when he found out she didn't

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have a contract, that she was basically adrift,

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he apparently just immediately offered her a

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deal. He said, come join my label, Peasley Park

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Records. Raitt, obviously seeing this as this

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incredible lifeline, this huge vote of confidence

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from someone like Prince, she agreed, went off

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to Minneapolis. That must have felt like a genuine

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miracle, like a hand reaching down to pull her

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out. But even that wasn't the magic fix, was

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it? It was more like a change of scene before

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the real work had to begin. Exactly. And that's

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where fate, or maybe just bad luck with good

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consequences, stepped in again. This time, it

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was physical. Before she could really get down

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to recording for Paisley Park, she had a skiing

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accident. A bad one. They put her in the hospital

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for two months. So an injury, something that

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normally seems like a huge setback for an artist,

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actually became the catalyst for recovery. Pretty

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much. It forced her to stop. The touring stopped.

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The partying had to stop. The constant worry

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about the next gig. All of it paused. And in

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that quiet, that enforced stillness, she had

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to look inward. And those two months gave her

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the space, the clarity to realize that she needed

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to change things, not just the industry, but

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her. Right, that crucial moment of self -accountability.

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Yeah, she was really honest with herself. She

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said something like, it seemed that some changes

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needed to be made. And I looked at myself and

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just felt I wasn't being the best version of

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me as I could. I wasn't going to blame anyone

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other than myself. That shift. Deciding not to

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blame everyone else, that's the real pivot from

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being a victim of circumstance to taking control.

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And the concrete action that came out of that

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realization was sobriety, the big one. Yes. She

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credits going to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings

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with giving her a totally new perspective on

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life. She got stable emotionally, spiritually.

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But, you know, getting sober doesn't magically

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fix your bank account. The professional path

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was still incredibly bumpy. And that initial

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hope, the Paisley Park deal, it didn't work out

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in the end. No. It kind of fizzled. She ended

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up leaving Prince's label because apparently

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the album she envisioned just wasn't materializing

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the way she wanted. So she was still in a really

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tough spot financially. Couldn't afford a full

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band again. She ended up just playing acoustic

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shows, stripping everything back, just her guitar,

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the songs. But it was in that stripped down,

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vulnerable state that she found the key collaborator

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for her comeback. Exactly. Right in that raw

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performance setting, she connects with the musician

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Don Was. Now, we need to pause here because Don

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Was, people knew him from the band Was. Now,

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Was, right? With his brother. And their sound

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was, well... pretty distinctive, very eclectic,

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quite slick kind of funk, dance, new wave, pop

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fusion. Think Walk the Dinosaur or Spy in the

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House of Love. OK, yeah. So known for really

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polished production, funk pop stuff seems like

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the absolute opposite of the raw bluesy direction

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she'd eventually take. How did they connect?

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It was almost random, really. Their first actual

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collaboration was on this quite unusual project

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in 1988, an album called Stay Awake, various

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interpretations of music from vintage Disney

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films. Raitt sang Baby Mine from Dumbo for that

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album, produced by Waz. It's kind of wild to

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think that this career -defining partnership

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started on a Disney covers compilation. Yeah,

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it's unexpected, but clearly something clicked

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between them. She liked working with him, trusted

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him enough to choose him as her producer for

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her own album. That says a lot about their connection,

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overlooking the genre expectations. It really

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does. So, okay, Dawn was lined up as producer,

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she's sober, focused, but she still needs a record

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deal. And this is where you see just how skeptical

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the industry still was about her. Her co -manager,

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Danny Goldberg, was shopping her around to labels.

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That must have been incredibly frustrating. Oh,

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massively. Goldberg reported that at least 14

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different record executives passed on signing

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Bonnie Raitt. 14. She wasn't seen as a hot prospect

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at all. She was widely considered, you know,

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commercially washed up, basically. A huge gamble,

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especially after the Nine Lives debacle just

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a couple of years before. 14 rejections. That's

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brutal. It shows just how completely the industry

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had written her off as someone who could sell

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records. So when Capitol Records finally bit,

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was it because they saw the artistic potential

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or was the deal just really low risk for them?

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It definitely sounds more like the latter. Tim

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Devine of Capitol Records was the one who finally

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took an interest. He saw something there, maybe

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sensed the change in her. But the deal she signed

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with Capitol in 1988, it wasn't huge. It was

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for $150 ,000, not exactly a bidding war. It

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was more like a cautious, fairly small bet on

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a veteran artist who was reliable, even if she

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hadn't had recent hits. And that detail is so

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important. It really underscores just how much

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of an underdog project Nick of Time was right

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from the very start. $150 ,000 investment that

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turned into 5 million sales and three Grammys.

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Incredible. Okay, let's shift from the struggle

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to the actual creation. What did this partnership

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produce musically? What was the sound that ended

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up captivating everyone? Well, the musical direction

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was very much a deliberate step away from the

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typical late 80s sound. The core sound of Nick

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of Time is, I'd say, smooth, but definitely not

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slick. It's understated rock with a real warmth

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and accessibility. Yeah, I think Stephen Thomas

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Erlewine, the critic from all music, he really

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nailed that sort of paradox in his description.

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He did. Erlewine wrote that rate never rocks

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too hard, but there is grit to her singing and

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playing, even when the surfaces are clean and

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inviting. That word grit is key. This isn't bland

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adult contemporary. It's mature blues -based

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rock. Yeah. Sounds inviting, yeah, but it carries

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the weight of everything she'd been through.

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It sounds like maturity, really. Bringing together

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all her influences without needing to be loud

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about it. You hear that amazing blend, Americana,

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rock, blues rock, but with the touches of R &amp;B,

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pop, even country woven, it feels very whole.

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And like we mentioned, given Don Wass' background,

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people might have expected something funkier,

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maybe more dance -oriented, but Raiden Wass together

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made this very deliberate, almost countercultural

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artistic choice. Why reject the trends? What

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was the thinking behind going against the grain

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of the late 80s sound? It was explicitly framed

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as a return to her roots. They wanted to emphasize

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that laid -back blues rock feel. Critically,

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they aimed for less production, less slickness.

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which meant actively avoiding the gated reverb

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drums, the layers of synthesizers, the programmed

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beats that were everywhere back then. They wanted

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something timeless, not trendy. And that decision

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was probably crucial for the album's longevity.

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By stripping away that 80s production artifice,

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the focus landed squarely on the performance,

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the songwriting, the arrangements, and just the

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pure emotional power of her voice and that signature

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slide guitar. Okay, let's drill down into the

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actual making of it, the production mechanics.

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Given that relatively small budget, $150K, and

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the goal of sounding less slick, how did they

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manage to get such a high -quality, professional,

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yet still kind of raw sound? Well, efficiency

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was key. And preparation made that efficiency

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possible. Even before they had the capital deal

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finalized, Raitt and Waz had been working together,

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recording early, very stripped -down demos at

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Waz's home studio. This wasn't just practicing

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the songs. It was about figuring out which songs

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worked best with just the essentials, without

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needing a big band or lots of studio layers.

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So they were already making sure the core of

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the music was strong, that it didn't rely on

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studio magic later on. Exactly. It mirrored how

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she'd been playing live during those lean years,

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just acoustic, focusing on the song itself. Because

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they'd already worked out the arrangements and

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knew the material inside out from those demos,

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the actual studio recording process was remarkably

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fast. How fast are we talking? The main recording

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sessions happened over about a week. At Ocean

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Way Recording and a couple of other LA studios,

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they were apparently knocking out about two tracks

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per day, which for a major label album with top

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-tier musicians, recording two finished tracks

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a day is incredibly quick. That's almost punk

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rock speed, not what you expect for a Grammy

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-winning record. And the engineer, Ed Cherney,

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he mentioned that the speed didn't actually hurt

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the quality. In fact, it helped create the album's

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core feeling. Yeah, Cherney pointed out that

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most of the music was recorded live in the studio.

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Which means the core band, bass, drums, piano,

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radon, guitar, and vocals, they were all playing

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together in the same room at the same time. Capturing

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that interaction, that moment, it avoids that

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kind of sterile, pieced -together feel you can

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get when every instrument is recorded separately

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and perfectly layered. Why does that live feel

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so important, especially for blues and roots

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music? Well, that kind of music really thrives

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on the interplay between musicians. The little

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improvisations, the feel. Recording live captures

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that human groove, those slight imperfections

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that make it feel authentic. It demands amazing

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musicianship. Obviously, there's nowhere to hide

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mistakes. But when it works, like it did here,

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you get this warmth, this dynamic energy, this

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realness that became the signature of the album's

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appeal. That live feel is totally connected to

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the emotional honesty everyone praised. Speaking

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of emotional honesty, let's talk themes. An album

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made right after hitting rock bottom, getting

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sober. It's bound to be reflective, right? This

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wasn't just songs. It was a statement about where

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she was in life. Oh, absolutely. It was a very

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conscious shift towards adult themes, towards

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maturity. Her biographer, Mark Bedogo, he noted

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that the songs felt... much more personal than

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her earlier stuff. She kind of moved away from

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the standard blues or rock themes, you know,

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the You Break My Heart songs or the rowdy party

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anthems, and really dug into deeper, more internal

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stuff. Adult relationships, self -reflection.

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And the timing, her age was a big part of that.

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She was nearly 40 when it came out, hitting that

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big milestone, middle age. Yeah, and the title

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track, Nick of Time, deals with that head on.

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It's explicitly about coming to terms with middle

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age, that feeling of time speeding up, realizing

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maybe some doors are closing, or that you need

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to make changes now if you want to find fulfillment.

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It almost sounds like it was deliberately aimed

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at the baby boomer generation, who were all hitting

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that same point of reflection around then. Madonna

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definitely suggested that, that Raitt was consciously

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making an album for her generation, reflecting

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their concerns, their relationships, their desire

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for something genuine in a pretty commercialized

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world. It was mature record tackling mature subjects,

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sobriety, lasting love, self -acceptance. And

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it connected so deeply because her audience was

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right there with her going through similar things.

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What's really interesting, though, is how much

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of this deeply personal statement was actually

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made through cover songs. The album's got 11

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tracks, runs about 42 minutes, but only two songs

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were written solely by Rae herself. The title

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track, Nick of Time, and The Road's My Middle

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Name. Right. It really highlights her skill as

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an interpreter, as a curator. Choosing covers

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wasn't just about filling the album. She found

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songs by other writers that perfectly articulated

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the emotional territory she wanted to explore.

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Writers like John Hyatt, his thing called love

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just perfectly captures that kind of mature,

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comfortable joy and commitment. And Bonnie Hayes,

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who wrote Love Letter and Have a Heart, which

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have that really introspective quality. So she

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used these outside songs, like pieces of a puzzle,

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building this cohesive, thematic picture. It

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let her channel her own new perspective, the

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sobriety, the stability, the grown -up love,

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through lyrics written by others, but delivered

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with the full weight of her own lived experience.

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That's it, exactly. Anyone can sing a cover song.

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But Raitt inhabited these songs. Her voice, which

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had been roughed up by life but was now newly

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clear and energized by sobriety, gave such authenticity

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to the material. They felt like her own stories,

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even if she didn't write the words. Okay, let's

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get into the personnel now, Section V. Despite

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that modest $150k advance and the tight recording

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schedule, the list of musicians who played on

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this album is seriously impressive. A real who's

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who. It absolutely is. And that speaks volumes

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about the respect Bonnie Raitt commanded among

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fellow musicians, even when her commercial stock

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was low. Great players, they recognized talent

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and integrity. Having these names on the credits

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basically validated the whole project before

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it even hit the stores. So beyond Raitt herself

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who handled vocals, electric piano, her amazing

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slide guitar work, and other guitars who were

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the core players. Well, obviously Dawn was producing,

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setting that sonic tone. And Ed Cherney engineering

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and mixing, capturing that clean but live sound.

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But the band playing with her, really top notch.

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Who laid down the foundation? The rhythm section.

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That crucial groove came from James Hutch, Hutchinson

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on bass, and Ricky Fattar on drums. These guys

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are seasoned pros. They play with incredible

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taste, never too busy, never too slick, just

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solid, supportive, mature playing that lets Russ'

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voice and guitar really breathe and shine. And

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then there are the guest appearances, which definitely

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add another layer of credibility, don't they?

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Oh, yeah. I mean, the biggest name on the album,

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undeniably, is Herbie Hancock. Playing acoustic

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piano on track 10, I ain't gonna let you break

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my heart again, Herbie Hancock. A true legend

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of jazz, fusion. His presence alone sends a signal

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to everyone, critics, listeners, that this is

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a serious musical undertaking, not just some

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quick comeback attempt. What did Hancock specifically

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bring to that track, musically? He brings this

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harmonic sophistication, you know. It lifts the

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song beyond just a simple blues ballad. His touch

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is just exquisite, often subtle. But the chords

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he chooses, the way he voices them. It adds this

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layer of elegance and complexity that really

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deepens the emotional impact of the song. It

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wasn't just name -dropping. It was casting the

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perfect musician for that specific mood. There

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was a strong horn section too, right? Yeah, the

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heart attack horns. They were key for adding

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that bit of soul, that R &amp;B edge on tracks like

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Have a Heart. You're talking about Bill Bergman,

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Greg Smith, John Berry Jr., Dennis Farias. A

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really tight, powerful section that adds energy,

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but again. never overpowers the main groove.

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They kept that balanced grit, but not slickness.

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And finally, the vocals. Who was supporting her

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on harmonies? The backing vocal lineup was pretty

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stacked, too. You had incredible session singers

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like Sir Harry Bowens, Arnold McCullers, Sweet

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Pea Atkinson, guys known for their power and

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soul. But the real star power, in terms of harmony,

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came from David Crosby and Graham Nash singing

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back up on Cry On My Shoulder. Crosby and Nash?

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Legends of Harmony, what kind of impact did having

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them on the record make? Well, instantly, you've

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got rock royalty lending their voices. And their

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specific harmonic blend is iconic, instantly

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recognizable. Their presence just underlined

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the fact that, despite her struggles, Raitt still

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had this deep network of respect within the music

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community. They brought those intricate, beautiful

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harmonies they're famous for, adding this richness

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and texture. It was like a signal that the folk

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rock establishment was fully behind her return.

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Really, the whole personnel list reads like a

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statement of trust from the best in the business.

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That musical support was clearly there. But now,

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as we move into the commercial success story,

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we have to go back to the business side. Even

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with the album finished, getting it marketed

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by Capitol Records was still a battle. Yeah,

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the resistance inside the label was pretty significant.

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You have to remember, Raitt was known, yes, but

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she was known for not selling huge numbers recently.

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So Capitol's marketing department was really

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reluctant to throw much money behind promoting

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her. They saw it as a big risk. So it took Tim

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Devine, the executive who signed her, to really

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push for it. Absolutely. Devine apparently had

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to go directly to the president of Capitol just

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to get approval for basic things like putting

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full page ads in music magazines. This wasn't

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launched with a massive coordinated media campaign.

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It was a record that had to fight for attention

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both inside the building and out in the world.

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And the way it sold really shows that. It wasn't

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an instant smash hit. It was the absolute definition

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of a slow burn. Totally. It debuted pretty low

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on the Billboard 200 chart, like number 105.

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It sold steadily, though, right from the start.

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Became her best -selling album to date fairly

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quickly, which was already a win. But its journey

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to the very top, that took an incredibly long

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time. How long are we talking? It took over a

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year. Consistent sales, growing critical acclaim,

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lots of positive word of mouth, building and

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building from its release in March 89 all the

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way until April 6, 1990. That's when Nick of

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Time finally hit number one. I mean, think about

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today's music world. Albums debut high based

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on pre -orders and first week streams, then often

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drop quickly. A 13 -month climb to number one.

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It's basically unheard of now. And that slow

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climb wasn't just impressive, it actually set

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a record. Yeah, a really fascinating chart record

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that says so much about her persistence. The

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time between Bonnie Raitt's first album ever

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charting on the Billboard 200 that was Give It

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Up way back in 1972 and Nick of Time hitting

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number one in 1990 was 17 and a half years. That

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broke the record for the longest time it ever

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took an artist to reach number one after their

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first chart appearance. It wasn't just a comeback

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hit. It was like proof that quality and sticking

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with it could eventually move the system. So

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what kept that momentum going for so long? It

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couldn't have just been touring, right? They

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needed radio play, maybe some visuals. Definitely.

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The singles were important. Nick of Time itself,

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Love Letter, they did okay. But Thing Called

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Love and especially Have a Heart were the ones

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that got significant radio play. Have a Heart

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actually cracked the top 50 on the Billboard

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Hot 100, hitting number 49. That gave it the

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crossover push it needed, getting played on pop

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stations, not just rock or blues formats. And

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Mark Bago, the biographer, he highlights the

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music video for Thing Called Love as being pretty

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important too, especially for reaching a new

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audience. Yeah, that's a great point for that

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era. The late 80s, early 90s. MTV and VH1 were

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huge. That video is a smart way to reintroduce

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Bonnie Raitt to a younger generation who might

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have only known her vaguely. if at all. And the

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video itself was affected because it was simple,

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charismatic, just rate playing in a bar, looking

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great, energetic, flirting with Dennis Quaid,

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who played a patron. It sold her personality

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or magnetism, showed she was still relevant and

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cool. OK, so we've got the quality music, the

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emotional depth, the slow, steady marketing push,

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the video. But if you had to boil it down, why

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did this record at this moment connect so deeply

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that it sold five million copies and became this

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defining comeback? Her publicist at the time,

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Joan Myers, probably had the simplest and maybe

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the best explanation. She put it down entirely

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to Raitt's authenticity. Myers said, Bonnie's

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personality and sincerity just won people's hearts.

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In addition to her music, there was nothing ever

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pretentious about her. Okay, let's unpack that

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word sincerity in the context of 1989. The late

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80s, as we said, lots of big hair, big production,

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maybe some manufactured images out there. Why

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did her specific brand of authenticity cut through

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so strongly then? I think it cut through because

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it felt like an antidote. An alternative to all

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the gloss and excess of the time. People were

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maybe getting tired of the artifice and were

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hungry for something real. And the narrative

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surrounding the album, the artist who battled

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addiction, got sober, found maturity, and made

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this honest record about real life that created

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a powerful emotional connection. It wasn't about

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fantasy. It was about resilience, about growth.

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Especially for that boomer audience who were

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doing their own soul -searching, this album felt

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like a genuine companion. an honest voice talking

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about things they were actually experiencing.

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And it wasn't just a U .S. phenomenon. The album

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did well internationally, too, suggesting that

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message resonated more broadly. Yeah, while North

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America was definitely the main driver, it hit

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number four up in Canada, it charted respectably

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across Europe, too. Made number 51 in the U .K.,

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popped up on the charts in Australia, Germany,

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the Netherlands. That core message of reflection,

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sincerity, it clearly translated. Which brings

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us nicely to the ultimate validation. The critical

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acclaim, specifically that massive Grammy night.

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The commercial success was huge, but the industry

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recognition cemented its place in music history.

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Oh, the 1990 Grammys were just total vindication.

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It's worth repeating the wins because they were

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so significant. Nick of Time wins the biggest

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award album of the year. And then the title track,

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the song Nick of Time, it does this amazing double

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winning best female rock vocal performance and

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best female pop vocal performance. Winning across

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different genre categories like that, plus taking

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the top prize. That's a huge statement from the

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same industry that had basically given up on

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her just a few years earlier. It's the ultimate

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turnaround narrative, isn't it? To go from being

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fired, forced to promote an album your old label

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dumped on the market, to standing on that Grammy

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stage accepting album of the year. especially

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after signing for just $150 ,000. It's the definitive

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story of triumph over adversity. It wasn't just

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a win for her. It felt like the industry acknowledging,

00:26:34.650 --> 00:26:37.289
wow, we really missed the boat on this one. And

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that recognition, as we mentioned earlier, it

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wasn't just a one -night thing. The album was

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immediately recognized as important, getting

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included in those key... best of lists, like

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the Book 1001 albums you must hear before you

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die. Yeah, it instantly became part of the canon,

00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:54.259
required listening. Although it's interesting

00:26:54.259 --> 00:26:56.599
to look at how its critical standing, particularly

00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.180
in big publications like Rolling Stone, has maybe

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shifted a bit over the decades. Right. If you

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track its position on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest

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Albums of All Time list. Exactly. In the first

00:27:07.059 --> 00:27:09.779
version, 2003, Nick of Time was ranked pretty

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high, number 229. Then in the 2012 update, it

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held... steady basically at 230. But in the most

00:27:16.579 --> 00:27:19.220
recent version, the 2020 list, it dropped quite

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a bit down to number 492. Wow. Yeah, that's a

00:27:22.220 --> 00:27:24.819
significant drop from the top half down to almost

00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:27.079
the very end. What do you think that means for

00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.339
its legacy? Well, it doesn't necessarily mean

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critics think less of the album itself. It often

00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:35.440
reflects how critical tastes change, how subsequent

00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.559
generations reassess eras. Maybe there's been

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a renewed focus on other sounds from the late

00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.779
80s or early 90s grunge alternative hip -hop

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that were perhaps seen as more groundbreaking

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or culturally disruptive. Those shifts might

00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.039
push more polished, adult -oriented rock albums

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down the list. But, I mean, the crucial thing

00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:56.119
is it's still on the list. That confirms its

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enduring quality and impact, even if its relative

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position fluctuates with critical trends. And

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regardless of where it sits on a magazine list,

00:28:02.339 --> 00:28:04.519
that final stamp of historical importance came

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much more recently. Right. The Library of Congress

00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.759
selecting it in 2022 for the National Recording

00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.579
Registry. That preservation honor deeming it...

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culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant.

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That ensures the album and its story, this pivotal

00:28:18.269 --> 00:28:20.730
moment for Raitt, bringing mature themes to the

00:28:20.730 --> 00:28:22.869
mainstream, is saved and recognized permanently

00:28:22.869 --> 00:28:25.670
for its cultural value. The whole journey, from

00:28:25.670 --> 00:28:27.789
hitting rock bottom to this massive breakthrough,

00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:30.789
it's just such a powerful lesson in resilience,

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in artistic truth. Let's try and pull together

00:28:33.390 --> 00:28:35.250
the most potent parts of this story one last

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time for everyone listening. Yeah, I think it

00:28:37.309 --> 00:28:40.369
really boils down to two things. Just how bad

00:28:40.369 --> 00:28:43.190
things got for her initially. and how pure and

00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:45.720
honest her artistic response was. We started

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.200
with Bonnie Raitt getting dropped by Warner Bros.,

00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.180
being legally tied to promoting Nine Lives, this

00:28:51.180 --> 00:28:53.799
record she hated, and hitting that personal low

00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.140
point, that complete emotional, physical, and

00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:58.319
spiritual breakdown she talked about. Then came

00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.859
that unexpected forced pause, the skiing accident,

00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:03.700
which led her to the absolutely critical, life

00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:06.599
-changing decision to get sober. And that clarity,

00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.839
that new perspective allowed her to connect with

00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.920
Dawn was maybe an unlikely choice on paper, but

00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.220
the perfect producer for her. And then after

00:29:14.220 --> 00:29:16.329
being turned... down 14 times, she gets that

00:29:16.329 --> 00:29:19.450
relatively small $150 ,000 deal from Capitol.

00:29:19.630 --> 00:29:22.230
And from that modest beginning, she creates this

00:29:22.230 --> 00:29:25.789
absolute masterpiece. A blues rock album recorded

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:28.890
quickly, mostly live, focused entirely on personal

00:29:28.890 --> 00:29:31.869
honesty, growing older, finding stability. It

00:29:31.869 --> 00:29:34.940
felt real. It had grit. And it connected universally

00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:37.160
because it came from such a genuine place, not

00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.440
from trying to chase trends. And that authenticity,

00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:41.839
backed up by relentless touring and incredible

00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.880
word of mouth, that's what fueled the slow, steady

00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.519
climb up the charts for over a year, leading

00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.079
to that historic 17 .5 -year record and the Grammy

00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.700
for Album of the Year. She redefined her entire

00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:56.440
career completely on her own terms. And that

00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.200
mechanism, that slow burn success, is really

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.119
fascinating to think about now. The steady touring,

00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.890
the critical buzz building over time. That's

00:30:03.890 --> 00:30:05.910
what pushed the album forward. The music resonated.

00:30:05.950 --> 00:30:08.170
The themes of reflection and sobriety felt true

00:30:08.170 --> 00:30:10.130
because they were so clearly rooted in her real

00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:12.430
-life struggles and recovery. People trusted

00:30:12.430 --> 00:30:14.569
the story because the music felt absolutely authentic.

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Which brings us to a final thought, something

00:30:16.910 --> 00:30:18.930
for you, the listener, to consider as we wrap

00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:21.730
up this deep dive. We've talked about this incredible

00:30:21.730 --> 00:30:25.670
17 .5 -year gap for Raitt to hit number one and

00:30:25.670 --> 00:30:28.250
how her success was built layer by layer touring,

00:30:28.549 --> 00:30:32.240
word of mouth. quality enduring over time, not

00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.440
initial hype. So the question is, in today's

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.980
music world, with its intense focus on instant

00:30:37.980 --> 00:30:41.160
hits, viral moments, first week streams, how

00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.480
likely is it that a similar kind of slow burn

00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.259
masterpiece, an album built on deep personal

00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:48.380
experience that needs time to find its audience,

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.819
could ever achieve that same kind of ultimate

00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:53.779
deserved success? Are we maybe losing the space

00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:55.819
for albums that take a year to truly connect

00:30:55.819 --> 00:30:57.759
and climb? That's definitely something to think

00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.519
about considering how quickly things move today.

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Thanks for joining us for The Deep Dive. Until

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next time.
