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Welcome to the Deep Dive. This is where we dig

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into stacks of source material, all the facts,

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the interviews, the history, and really try to

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pull out the insights, you know, go deeper than

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just the surface stuff. And today we are diving

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deep into the career and, well, the pretty personal

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journey of a comedian who really walks this line

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between, like, incredible talent and just profound

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vulnerability. We're talking about Todd Glass.

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Yeah. And the source material we have here, it's

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really rich. We're looking at a career that goes

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back decades. I mean, starting way back in 1982.

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And he's still going strong today. 40 years,

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basically. Exactly. And what's really interesting,

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I think, is how the sources track not just, you

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know, the career ups and downs across stand up

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TV podcasting, but how it's all tangled up with

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these two huge, very public moments in his life.

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Right. The health crisis and coming out. Yeah.

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The heart attack, which was incredibly serious.

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And then later coming out publicly. And the sources

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really suggest these weren't just side notes.

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They actually became like central fuel for his

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comedy, for that specific kind of chaotic, absurd

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voice he developed. That's the real core of it,

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isn't it? How the personal stuff feeds the professional.

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So, OK, our mission for you listening in is to

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really follow this evolution. We're going to

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track Glass from, you know, being this young

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guy starting out in Philly to where he is now,

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this veteran comic with this super unique podcast

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known for being incredibly honest. And we're

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going to stick to the facts, the dates, the names,

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everything the sources give us to really paint

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the full picture of how being transparent kind

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of transformed his comedy. Definitely. Okay,

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so let's start at the beginning. The origin story.

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Because like we said, 40 plus years doing stand

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-up. That's just, that's incredible endurance.

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It really is. Todd Stephen Glass, born December

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16th, 1964, Philadelphia suburbs. And the key

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thing here is how early he started. It wasn't

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like a post -college thing. The material shows

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he was doing stand -up professionally in Philadelphia

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back in 1982. He was still in high school. Conestoga

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High School. Wow, okay, stand -up in high school,

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that's intense. Think about it, right? Stand

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-up demands so much confidence, quick thinking.

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doing that while you're navigating you know high

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school yeah it's got to shape you differently

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you're immersed in that world so young it builds

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technique sure but also just a unique perspective

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compared to someone starting later yeah you can

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see how that might lead to a style that's hard

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to pin down the sources list his genres okay

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observational yeah lots of comics do that but

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then it jumps straight into surreal humor alternative

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comedy and uh Exactly. It's not just set a punchline.

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No. And what's interesting is how he uses that

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absurdity. He's talking about stuff we all recognize,

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American culture, pop culture, weird human behavior,

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everyday life. But it's all filtered through

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this like really nonlinear, strange lens. Lots

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of self -deprecation in there, too. High energy

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tangents. Impersonations. Oh, the impersonations.

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Yeah. It's totally bizarre. It's like it starts

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grounded, but then it just goes way off the rails.

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You know, he messes with your expectations of

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where a joke is going. That controlled chaos,

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that pure alternate comedy. And you see that

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mix early on in his career visibility. Late 80s.

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He's on A &amp;E's. an evening at the Improv. Right,

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which was huge back then. A very mainstream,

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traditional stand -up show, big exposure. Clearly,

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he can work that room, play by those rules. But

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then pretty much right after early 90s, he starts

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showing up on Comedy Central. Mm -hmm, which

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was just starting to become the place for edgier,

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less network -y comedy. So he's succeeding in

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both the old -school club system, like the Improv,

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and on this new cable frontier almost at the

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same time. That's just serious adaptability.

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He could make his unique voice work in different

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formats. Speaking of that unique voice, the sources

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mentioned two personal things that might feed

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into it, especially the surreal nonlinear stuff.

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He's Jewish and he's dyslexic. Okay, let's unpack

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that. The dyslexia connection first, maybe. Dyslexia

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often involves processing information, language,

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sequences in a different way, right? Not always

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linear. So if you apply that kind of thinking

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to stand -up comedy. It could come out as deliberately

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messing with traditional timing restructure.

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Instead of A leads to B leads to C. Maybe he

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uses repetition or flies off on a tangent or

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does these sharp character shifts that don't

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follow normal logic. So the way his brain works

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might actually be the engine for the absurdity?

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It seems plausible, yeah. It could turn what

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some might see as a challenge into like a unique

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artistic strength. Yeah. It's a different wiring

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that fits perfectly with surreal comedy. That's

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fascinating. The thinking is the style. Sort

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of, yeah. Yeah. And then you layer the Jewish

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cultural background on top. There are strong

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traditions in Jewish humor around storytelling,

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wordplay, fast timing, deep observation. often

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with self -deprecation and commentary on fitting

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in or not fitting in. So that adds another layer

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of influence. Definitely. It gives him another

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whole tradition to draw from. So you've got maybe

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dyslexia influencing the form, the chaos, the

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structure, and his heritage influencing the content,

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the pacing, the specific kind of self -deprecation

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he uses when talking about, say, pop culture.

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It makes his absurdism feel very specific to

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him. It's not just random noise. It's structured,

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personal chaos. OK, so he's honing this style,

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this kind of structured chaos. And then segment

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two, this is where he really breaks into wider

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consciousness through TV, mapping out that mainstream

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footprint. And ironically, the biggest splash

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maybe comes from reality TV. Yeah, it's a funny

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contrast, right? Yeah. His broadest exposure

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probably came from being a contestant on NBC's

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Last Comic Standing. He was on two seasons, actually

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seasons two and three. Right, alongside some

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big names came out of those seasons. Absolutely.

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People like Amy Schumer, Gabriel Iglesias were

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on those seasons too. Being on a highly rated

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network show like that. put his, let's say, unconventional

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style in front of millions who maybe weren't

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hanging out in old comedy clubs. But he wasn't

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just a reality contestant. He was also a fixture

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on Late Night, a reliable guest. You see him

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frequently on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Late night with

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Conan O 'Brien. Yeah. Being a regular, trusted

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face on those big network shows. Yeah. That's

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a sign of a real working pro. Someone who can

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deliver consistently. It separates the club comics

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from the established veterans. And it's important

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what kind of shows he was doing, too. It wasn't

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just light chat. Exactly. While he's doing Kimmel

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and Conan, he's also deep in the more... critical

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and political comedy shows. He was a regular

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on Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn. Which was a

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very specific format, that roundtable debate

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style. Very specific. And he popped up on The

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Dennis Miller Show, Politically Incorrect. These

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shows needed sharp, fast, often political points.

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It shows he could switch from like physical absurdity

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to quick -witted commentary. Wait, hold on. Being

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a regular on Politically Incorrect and also being

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a key part of the all -comedy scene. How does

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that work? Those feel like different worlds.

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How did his surreal stuff fit into like a political

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debate? I think it points to the intelligence

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behind the chaos. Yeah. On those panels, maybe

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the delivery was more contained, but the content

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still had that absurd edge, like taking a political

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idea and pushing it to some ridiculous extreme.

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OK. And crucially, even while getting that mainstream

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and political exposure, he stayed connected to

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the real alternative scene. He did spots on shows

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that were defining that whole movement. We're

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talking Louis, Tosh Pointazzo, and the absolute

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cornerstone, Mr. Show with Bob and David. Okay,

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Mr. Show. Yeah. We need to pause on that. For

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anyone listening who doesn't know. Why is appearing

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on Mr. Show such a big deal for alt -comedy cred?

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Mr. Show was. Yeah. It was basically the ground

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zero for that late 90s, early 2000s wave of smart,

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postmodern, anti -establishment sketch comedy.

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It threw out traditional structures, bunch lines.

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It was all link sketches, super surreal, really

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fast -paced. So for a comedian like Glass, whose

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own stand -up is built on absurdity and surrealism,

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Being on that show means you were accepted, respected

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by the guys, Bob Odenkirk and David Cross, who

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were basically defining that whole sensibility.

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Being able to navigate between politically incorrect

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panels, Conan's couch, and a show like Mr. Show,

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that's incredibly rare. It shows his range and

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credibility across the whole spectrum. And solidifying

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that early career, he gets his own Comedy Central

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present special pretty early on back in 2001.

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That's the network saying, OK, we get this guy,

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this unique voice. Yeah. And that same year,

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2001, he drops his first standup album, Vintage

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Todd Glass and Other Craps. Love that title.

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It's perfect, right? So self -deprecating, totally

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leans into his humor, admits maybe not every

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bit's a diamond. But there's another key thing

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from around that time, too, placing him right

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in the heart of the L .A. alt scene. You mean

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the Comedy Death Ray compilation? Exactly. The

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sources mentioned he was featured on the Comedy

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Death Ray 2 CD set. And this wasn't just some

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random mixtape. This is a curated album featuring

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comics performing in the Comedy Death Ray showcase.

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At the UCB Theater. At the Upright Citizens Brigade

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Theater in L .A. Which, as you know, wasn't just

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a venue. It was the absolute incubator for modern

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alternative comedy on the West Coast. Yeah, UCB

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was ground zero. Totally. That specific night,

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Comedy Death Ray, run by Scott Aukerman and B

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.J. Porter, it basically shaped the aesthetic

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and launched the careers of a whole generation

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of comics who broke away from the mainstream.

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Think comedy, bang, bang, and all that followed.

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Being on that compilation, CD puts Glass right

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in the middle of that hugely influential UCB

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scene in the mid -2000s. He was a bridge figure.

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Comfortable in traditional clubs, but also right

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there at the start of this new chaotic long form

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thing. He was there. And then a bit later, 2009,

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he releases another album, Thin Pig, July 7th,

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2009, on Comedy Central Records. So you see this

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progression, the specials, the albums in 01,

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09, the TV work. He's building steadily, clearly

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wanting more creative room, more time. Which

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leads perfectly into the next phase, segment

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three, the format that could finally contain

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him. Yeah, the move into audio. This is where

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he really carves out his own unique space, right?

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Absolutely. The podcast format just seems tailor

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-made for a comic mind that works in tangents,

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that thrives on collaboration and, well, chaos.

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It lets him be nonlinear in a way a tight five

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on TV never could. But he didn't jump straight

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into his own show. There was an earlier podcast

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first. Right. He dipped his toe in the water

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with comedy. Yeah. And everything else. He co

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-hosted that one with Jimmy Dore and Stefani

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Zamorano. You can see that as like his lab, a

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place to figure out how sustained conversation,

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how tangents work in audio without the pressure

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of TV time limits or a live club audience expecting

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punchlines every few seconds. But he didn't stick

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with it for too long. No, he left that show in

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September 2009. They officially announced his

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departure on the November 20th episode that year.

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But importantly, the sources note he came back

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later as a guest multiple times. Oh, OK. So it

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wasn't like a bad breakup. Doesn't sound like

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it. More like he realized he needed his own vehicle,

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full creative control to do what he really wanted

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to do. Which brings us to The Todd Glass Show.

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Debuts August 2011 on the Nerdist Network. And

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this show. This is where things get really different,

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really specific to him. Yeah, this is his definitive

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statement in the format. Because it wasn't just

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him chatting with a guest. It embraced the chaos,

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the surrealism of his stand -up, but used the

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technology, the format itself, to make it even

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more pronounced. And the key is the structure,

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right? It's not just Todd. It's this ensemble,

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a regular crew, guests who are in on the joke,

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technical people who are part of the comedy itself.

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We have to break down this crew and structure

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because it's what makes the show unique. It's

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not like any other comedy podcast, really. It's

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like structured, produced absurdity. And the

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production team are essentially co -performers.

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So who are the key players in this? Okay, so

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you have the regular comedian collaborators who

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would often be there, people like Rory Scovel,

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Rory's wife Jordan, Blake Wexler. They're jumping

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in on the bits, the tangents, the characters.

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But the real genius, the structural innovation,

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is bringing the technical crew into the comedy

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in real time. Making the engineers and musicians

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part of the act. Exactly. So you've got the audio

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engineers Katie Levine and Aristotle Acevedo,

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who everyone calls Jetski. Their job isn't just

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to make it sound good. It's to react comedically.

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They're dropping in sound effects, music cues,

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weird noises, often totally unexpectedly, to

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heighten a moment or just derail things completely.

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It's integral to the show's feel. And the musicians,

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too, Lynn Shore and Joe McKenzie, the sources

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specifically say they write and perform the show's

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jingles and audio cues. Why is that detail so

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defining? Because it makes the podcast feel live,

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almost like interactive theater. Someone mentions

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a funny concept or Todd has an outburst and boom,

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the musicians might create and perform a little

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song or jingle about it right there on the spot.

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Sometimes satirical, sometimes just perfectly

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capturing the weirdness of the moment. Instant

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musical commentary. Yeah. That kind of immediate

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required musical integration. You just don't

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hear that on other comedy podcasts. It's the

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audio version of his chaotic standup style blown

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up into this long form, constantly shifting self

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-referential soundscape. It's using production

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itself as a comedic tool, takes real commitment,

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real spontaneity, but also high technical skill

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to pull off. So this show, starting in 2011,

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becomes this anchor for him. He's still touring,

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still recording, but he has this continuous outlet

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that perfectly fits his voice built around this

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specific community. Exactly. And having that

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platform, that community, that connection with

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the audience. Yeah. It gives him the space for

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what comes next. Yeah. Segment four, moving from

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just being a funny guy to being this incredibly

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public truth teller. Things he could never really

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explore in a five minute spot on. Kimmel found

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a home here. Okay. Segment four. This is where

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we shift focus to these two huge life -changing

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things that Todd Glass shared very publicly.

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And these moments really changed the perception,

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right? From just a comedian to someone showing

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incredible bravery, connecting his stage life

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to his real vulnerable self, often for a reason

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beyond himself. And the first one, the health

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scare. It happened right in the middle of things

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while he was working, which is just terrifying.

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April 16th, 2010, he collapses backstage at Largo.

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The club in L .A. Yeah, the famous Largo in L

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.A. Right after performing, apparently. Suffered

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a heart attack. Not at home. Not quietly. Literally

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at his workplace. Moments after being on stage.

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And the sources are clear. It was serious. 100

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% blockage in his arteries. Had to have an angioplasty

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right away. Yeah. And what's just astounding

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is how quickly and how openly he talked about

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it. Just nine days later, he's on the Bonnie

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Hunt show talking about this brush with death.

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Nine days. That's incredibly fast and incredibly

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candid. It really is, especially given how severe

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it was. 100 % blockage is no joke. And he didn't

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just share the event. He shared the why. He was

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very upfront, attributing it to, quote, bad genetics.

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Right. He talked about his family history. Yeah.

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So his dad had his first heart attack at only

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30 and died from another one at 46. Yeah. So

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by giving that context, he framed his own crisis

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not as like a personal failing, but almost as

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this genetic destiny he had to confront. And

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it wasn't just a one off mention. He kept talking

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about it, updating people on his recovery, showing

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the ongoing effort involved. Like when he was

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on the Adam Carolla show, it was a December 2012,

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a couple of years after the attack. He gave specifics.

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Yeah. This is where we get the real details of

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the lifestyle change. Yeah. He said he'd lost

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30 pounds by then. which takes sustained effort.

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He talked about quitting smoking, clarifying

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he'd been a pack -a -month smoker before, which

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adds a bit of color, right? Yeah. And because

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of the genetics, he started taking Liptivore

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to manage the risk. Giving those details, it

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paints a picture of responsible, long -term management,

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not just the initial drama. It's about the daily

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work of staying healthy after something like

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that. So this theme of public vulnerability,

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starting with this really serious physical crisis

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linked to genetics, it kind of sets the stage

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for the second big disclosure, one that was maybe

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less about fate and more about personal choice

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and social conscience coming out publicly. Right.

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And the timing and the platform for that are

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really key. He chose WTF with Marc Maron, episode

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245, January 16th, 2012. Which by then, WTF was

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the place for comedians to get really honest,

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right? Absolutely. It was known for these deep,

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often raw conversations about careers, struggles,

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trauma. It offered this sort of safe space, but

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with a massive engaged audience, perfect for

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something this significant. And the sources say,

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look, his friends, his family, they knew he was

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gay. But telling the world publicly was a big

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step professionally and personally. But it's

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the reason he gave that's so powerful. Yeah,

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it wasn't just about him. He explicitly said

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he'd been worried about coming out publicly.

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But the recent wave of suicides among LGBT youth.

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Yeah. That's what pushed him to do it. That was

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his motivation. Wow. That detail is just crucial.

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He's linking his personal truth directly to a

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social cause to potentially helping kids who

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are struggling. He saw his platform not just

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for jokes, but for visibility, for responsibility,

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maybe even saving lives. So you have these two

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huge moments of vulnerability presented very

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differently. First, the heart attack in 2010,

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physical, life threatening, attributed to bad

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genetics, kind of out of his control. Then two

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years later, coming out emotional, social, a

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deliberate choice made on a major platform. driven

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by a desire to address suffering. It's a really

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powerful contrast. Discussing a near -death experience,

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sharing his identity, both show this incredible

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commitment to transparency. It shifted his public

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image, I think. He wasn't just a funny, chaotic

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guy anymore. He was using his platform to be

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radically human, connecting his own life to bigger

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social issues. And that vulnerability, weirdly,

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probably made his comedy stronger, deeper. It

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grounded the absurdity in something very real.

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Yeah, it adds this whole other... The chaos on

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stage feels different when you know the chaos

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and the truth he's navigated off stage. It shows

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how comedy that starts absurd can end up being

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profoundly truthful, even a form of public service.

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Okay, so wrapping things up in segment five,

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let's just quickly look at his output beyond

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the live stage and the podcast, confirming he's

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still writing, still recording, keeping that

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momentum going alongside all this transparency.

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Yeah, looking at his albums, he didn't stop just

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because the podcast took off. After that 2009

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Thin Pig album, he released Todd Glass Talks

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About Stuff in 2013. And then Todd Glass... Act

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Happy came out in 2018. So the podcast complements

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the stand -up, it doesn't replace it. Exactly.

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He keeps the stage work going, that pure stand

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-up form, while the podcast is this whole other

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beast for the collaborative chaos. But the big

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written piece is the book, right? Which seems

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to pull all these threads together, the absurdity,

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the career history, the personal honesty. Right,

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the book, the Ty Glass situation, a bunch of

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lies about my personal life. and a bunch of true

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stories about my 30 -year career in stand -up

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comedy. Even the title is classic glass, right?

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Yeah, totally meta. It acknowledges that whole

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blurry line in comedy between what's real and

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what's the act. The structure lies about personal

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life, true stories about career. It flips expectations,

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maybe suggesting that career was the place he

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felt safest, being honest in a weird way. That

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came out in 2014 from Simon &amp; Schuster. For anyone

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wanting to grab it, the ISBN is 978 -14767 -14417.

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And that publication date, 2014, is interesting.

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Two years after he came out publicly, it seems

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like a time where he was really consolidating

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that candor across different forms. So pulling

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it all together, the final picture. You've got

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this absolute veteran, performing since 82, still

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touring constantly, still putting out albums

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decades into his career. But he didn't just,

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like... survive this shift to new media, he built

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this incredibly unique, successful podcast community

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around his specific style, the chaos, the absurdity.

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And it's all underpinned now by this foundation

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of hard work and more recently, this really remarkable

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personal honesty that took him from just being

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a great comic to being a really influential,

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important voice. Yeah, it's not many comics who

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can talk about needing an angioplasty because

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of genetics and then also talk about why they

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came out publicly for social reasons and then

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maybe pivot to discussing a ridiculous jingle

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on their podcast, all with the same energy. The

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sources really give us the timeline, the details

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to see that whole arc, the longevity, the adaptability

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and just the sheer guts involved. He used his

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platform not just for laughs, but for radical

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honesty. Which brings us to a final thought,

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something for you, the listener, to chew on.

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Glass pins his heart attack, that 100 % blockage,

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on bad genetics, something unavoidable, biological

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fate almost. But then he chose to share both

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that vulnerability and his identity as a gay

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man, the latter specifically for a social reason

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to help struggling kids. Right. Fate versus choice.

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Exactly. So it makes you wonder, right? For any

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artist, anyone in the public eye, when does their

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biggest contribution stop being just the art

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itself, the laughs from the absurd jokes in his

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case, and become the specific unvarnished truth

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they decide to share about themselves? And maybe

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even more interestingly, how does sharing that

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truth actually feed back into and strengthen

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the very absurd or surreal or chaotic art they

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were making all along? Does the honesty make

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the chaos ring truer?
