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Welcome back to The Deep Dive. We take the research,

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you get the insight. Today, we're diving deep

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into someone truly multifaceted. The comedian,

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the writer, the actress, Fortune Feinster. Yeah,

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and our goal here isn't just, you know, running

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down a list of credits, although, wow, there

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are a lot. We really want to unpack the journey

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because there's this paradox at the heart of

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it. Right. How does someone go from like a really

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structured, almost traditional Southern upbringing,

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debutante balls, academics, then veer into entertainment

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journalism and then become this major comedy

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voice, even in animation? Exactly. It's definitely

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not the usual path. So the question is, how did

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that happen? How did that transformation from,

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say, a North Carolina debutante to someone starring

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alongside Mindy Kaling and voicing Pixar characters

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actually unfold? Because the range is just huge.

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You look at the resume and it's the Mindy Project,

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a main role, then Counselor Jerry. D in Pixar's

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Soul, which is pretty abstract, and now she's

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lined up for Zootopia 2. That's Disney blockbuster

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territory. And that kind of range, that versatility,

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it doesn't just appear out of thin air. What

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the sources really suggest is that the foundation

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for being able to switch between these different

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worlds was actually laid way back in places that

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seem, well, totally opposite to a comedy club.

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Okay, so we need to start at the beginning then.

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Lay that foundation. Definitely. Let's go back

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to her roots. She was born Emily Fortune Feinster,

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July 1st, 1980, in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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So as we're recording this in late 2025, she's

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45. And that name, Fortune, it sounds like the

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perfect stage name, but it's real, right? Totally

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real. It's a family name, her maternal great

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-grandmother's maiden name, which is pretty cool,

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actually. She's the youngest of three kids, two

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older brothers, Price and Jay. So you get that

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picture, Southern family, memorable name. Okay.

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And she grew up mostly in Belmont, North Carolina,

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went to Belmont Central Elementary, Belmont Junior

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High. This is where that contrast you mentioned

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starts setting in, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Because

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look at high school. South Point High, graduated

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in 98. And she was seriously into sports, like

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really into them. Played basketball, softball,

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and tennis. Wow, a three -sport athlete. That

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takes serious dedication. Time management, competitiveness.

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Right. She was clearly focused, driven. Not just

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playing for fun. But then the juxtaposition is

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just amazing. That same year, 1998, the year

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she graduates as this jock. She's presented at

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the Gastonia debutante ball. Can you even picture

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it? One minute she's sweating it out on the court,

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maybe playing softball. The next she's in the

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white dress, the gloves, doing the whole formal

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Southern debutante thing. It's wild. It really

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speaks to an ability to navigate completely different

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worlds, different roles, different expectations.

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It's code switching. basically, and mastering

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these very specific social structures, even if

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maybe later she'd, you know, poke fun at them

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in her comedy. It shows this adaptability, this

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social intelligence. That's maybe the key right

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there. The ability to fit into the jock world,

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the academic world, and the super traditional

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debutante scene. Those are skills, right? Schools

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you'd need to transition from a small town to,

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say, Hollywood. Absolutely. And that focus, that

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discipline, it wasn't just for sports or social

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events. She carried it straight into college.

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She went to Peace College, which it's worth noting

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wasn't all women's university back when she attended.

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And she didn't just scrape by. She excelled,

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majored in communications, kept playing sports,

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soccer, and tennis in college. And wait, there's

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more. She was elected student body president.

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Student body president, on top of the sports

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and the major. And graduated summa cum laude.

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Okay, hold on. Summa cum laude, student body

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president, college athlete. Yeah. This is not

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the profile you imagine for someone who ends

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up doing stand -up about, I don't know. Hooters.

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Right. It shows this incredibly high level of

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achievement, structure, leadership. She was operating

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in a very organized, high pressure environment.

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And that academic success led to a really key

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moment. She was picked to be the student speaker

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at her graduation in 2002. And the main speaker

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that day was actress Emily Proctor, you know,

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from CSI Miami, also North Carolina native from

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Raleigh. Ah, the connection. So they meet there.

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They get acquainted. Yeah. And this connection

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becomes like her initial roadmap after college.

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Because think about it. She graduates with top

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honors, leadership experience. What's next? Does

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she hit the open mic nights? Doesn't sound like

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it. Not yet. Nope. First, a bit of a breather.

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She lives in Spain for a year, maybe finding

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herself exploring. Then, 2003, she does the L

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.A. move. Her plan wasn't just wing it and hope.

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It was practical. Use that connection. Exactly.

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The initial goal was to become Emily Proctor's

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personal assistant. Secure a job, get mentored,

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while trying to figure out the comedy thing on

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the side. See, very structured thinking again.

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Yeah. The student body president making a plan.

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But then there's this detour, a big one. Huge.

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She connects with Proctor's neighbor, who happens

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to be a journalist for the Los Angeles Daily

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News. And this leads to a job, not as PA, but

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as a journalist. And not just for a little while.

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She does this for seven years. Seven years. That's

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a proper career. Entertainment, journalism, writing,

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interviewing, deadlines, the whole newsroom environment.

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Think about what that does for you. Okay, yeah.

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Let's unpack that. Seven years of journalism.

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How does that feed into comedy? Well, what does

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journalism demand? Getting to the point fast.

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Finding the essential angle. Writing concisely.

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Hitting deadlines. Observing people, situations

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critically. Right. Boiling things down, finding

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the hook, the lead, cutting out the fluff. That

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sounds a lot like writing a good joke, doesn't

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it? Exactly. It trains you to structure your

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thoughts, your observations, to find that core

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truth and deliver it effectively. It gives your

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writing and maybe even your standup a kind of

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structural backbone that pure improv might not

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always have. So while she's doing this demanding

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day job, she's also starting to build her performance

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skills. In 2005, she starts taking improv and

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sketch classes at the Groundlings, which is legendary.

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Oh, yeah. Huge names came out of there. It's

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super competitive, right? Not just a casual class.

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Definitely not. It's a whole program, takes years.

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You have to progress through levels. She studied

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there for four years, four years of intense work.

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Learning the craft. Well, holding down the journalism

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job. That's commitment. Total commitment. And

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after those four years, she gets selected for

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the Groundlings Sunday Company. Ah, the Sunday

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Company. That's the big leagues within Groundlings,

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right? The feeder system for SNL, for movies,

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for TV writing. Precisely. Getting into the Sunday

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Company is basically the industry saying, OK,

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you've got the chops. You're ready. It validates

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all that hard work. And this intense period,

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learning improv, breaking into the Sunday company,

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it's also happening alongside something major

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personally. Yeah. Around the same time, 2005,

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when she's about 25, she comes out as lesbian.

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So you've got these two huge developments happening

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simultaneously, finding her authentic personal

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voice and finding her professional comedic voice.

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It makes sense that they'd be intertwined, developing

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that confidence on stage, being more herself.

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It probably fueled the comedy, especially since

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so much of her material draws on her life, that

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contrast between her Southern background and

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her identity. Absolutely. The contradictions

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became the goldmine for her material. The debutante

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who's also gay, the Southerner in L .A. It all

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starts coming together. And even though she's

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building this career in L .A., she stays connected

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to her roots. Very much so. The sources confirm

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she keeps homes in both L .A. and back in Belmont,

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North Carolina. That's not just symbolic. It

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feels like a deliberate choice to stay grounded,

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to keep accessing that part of her life and culture.

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That's pretty rare in Hollywood, I think, holding

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on to both worlds. Okay, so the foundation is

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laid. The discipline, the journalism training,

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the groundlings chops, finding her voice. Now,

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how does this translate into getting notice?

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Well, the first flicker on the national radar

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is NBC's last comic standing in 2010. She's on

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for four episodes. It's a start. Gets her name

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out there a bit. But competition shows are tough.

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Lots of people appear, but few make the leap

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to something sustainable. True. But for her,

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the real launchpad comes next, the Chelsea Lately

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era. Ah, yes. Huge show at the time. Massive.

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From 2011 to 2014, she's a regular Roundtable

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co -host. Our sources say 158 episodes. 158 episodes.

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That's not just a guest spot. That's practically

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part of the furniture. What does that kind of

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regular exposure do? It's like comedy boot camp

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on national TV. You're riffing on pop culture,

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live, nightly. You have to be sharp, funny. quick

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and develop a persona that connects. It forces

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you to hone your timing, your angles. It made

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her a familiar face, comfortable in front of

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millions. And you start seeing that pay off in

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scripted roles pretty quickly after that, right?

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Yeah. 2014, she pops up in Two Broke Girls as

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Sherlock Mary, which sounds fun, and in Workaholics

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as a character named Joe. Small parts, but crucial

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steps. Proving she can act, deliver lines in

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a scene. Not just comment on the news. Showing

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she's more than just a panelist. And then comes

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the big one. The Mindy Project. This is where

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everything converges, the groundlings training,

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the Chelsea Lately confidence. In 2015, she joins

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the main cast. As Colette Kimble -Kinney. And

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she stays right through the end. Yep, seasons

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four through six until 2017. That's 39 episodes

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of the main character. That's a career anchor.

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Absolutely. And Colette was such a great character

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for her, the slightly awkward but lovable gay

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Southern nurse. It really let her use that blend

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of sweetness and sharp wit. And being a main

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player in a Mindy Kaling show, those scripts

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are fast, smart. Joke dense. Holding her own

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in that ensemble cemented her as a legitimate

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actor, not just a comedian doing a cameo. It

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gave her stability, visibility. And she uses

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that momentum. She doesn't just stick to one

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thing. She's doing other TV, too. Oh, yeah. She

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balances it expertly. She plays Dougie on Life

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in Pieces for seven episodes between 2016 and

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2019. That's a network family sitcom. And then

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in 2018, she's Ruby and Champions, another NBC

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show, for 10 episodes. While still keeping the

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stand -up going strong. Crucially, yes. She never

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abandoned her roots. She gets her own episode

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of the Netflix series The Stand -Ups in 2017.

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Think of that as the appetizer. For the main

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course. Which was her big Netflix special, Sweet

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and Salty, released in 2020. That was huge for

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her. It really showcased her storytelling, drawing

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heavily on that Southern upbringing, the coming

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out story, all those contrasts we talked about.

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Sweet and Salty, the title itself kind of sums

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up that persona, doesn't it? Perfectly. And that

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special really broadened her appeal. You see

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it in the roles she gets afterwards in the 2020s.

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She plays Pam Fox on Kenan for 14 episodes, 2021,

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2022. Network sitcom again. But then a complete

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genre jump. F you bar. Right. The Netflix action

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comedy series with Arnold Schwarzenegger. She

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plays Ruth or Rue across 16 episodes in 2023.

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Looks like extending into 2025. Going from Keenan

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to a big budget action show with Arnold. That's

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range. Studios have to trust you can handle both

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the comedy and, well, the action environment.

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It shows incredible versatility. And marketability.

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She could fade into a family sitcom and a spy

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thriller spoof. Plus, she makes these interesting

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targeted appearances, too. Like the L Word reboot.

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Yeah, the L Word. Generation Q played Heather

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for three episodes, 2019, 2020. And then, totally

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different vibe, she turns up as a judge on Is

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It Cake in 2022, leveraging that mainstream appeal.

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She's just everywhere. Which leads us nicely

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into another huge part of her career, maybe one

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that uses her voice in a totally different way.

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The film work, and especially the animation.

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Right. Before the animation really took off,

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she had some live -action film roles. Office

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Christmas Party in 2016, The Happy Time Murders

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in 2018. Fun parts, but the animation work is

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where you see this next level of reach becoming

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part of these massive global franchises. And

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the benchmark has to be Pixar. Soul. 2020. Voice

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and Counselor Jerry D. Getting cast in a Pixar

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film is like the gold seal of approval for voice

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acting, isn't it? Especially a role like Counselor

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Jerry Dee representing this abstract concept.

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It means your voice has warmth, authority, recognition,

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but also flexibility. Yeah, Counselor Jerry Dee

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needed that perfect blend of calming and slightly

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bureaucratic. It's amazing how much character

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she conveyed just with her voice, playing basically

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a line drawing. It's a different skill set entirely.

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Totally different. Requires pure vocal performance

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imagination. And once you're in that Disney Pixar

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world... Other doors open. Like more big animated

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movies. Exactly. We've got upcoming projects

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showing her strength in family entertainment.

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She's voicing Kitty Fridge in Gabby's Dollhouse,

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the movie. That's out in 2025. And then there's

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a role, we don't know which character yet, in

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Paw Patrol, the dino movie for 2026. Okay, Gabby's

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Dollhouse, Paw Patrol. She's definitely cornering

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the market on beloved kids franchises. But the

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really huge one? Is Zootopia 2. Confirmed. She's

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voicing a character named Nibbles Maplestick.

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That film is in production, slated for 2025.

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Wow. Being part of the Zootopia sequel, that's

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massive. That guarantees visibility for years

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across generations. The same person telling jokes

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on Netflix specials is now a key voice in one

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of Disney's biggest modern hits. It speaks volumes

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about the trust studios have in her, her broad

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appeal. And don't forget the live action comedy

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she sprinkled in during the 2020s, too. Often

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stealing scenes. Oh, yeah. Like the fairy gay

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mother in Friendsgiving. Hilarious. And Pinky

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and Barb and Star. Good. Vista Del Mar in 2021.

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Barb and Star. She was perfect in that. That

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kind of quirky, specific comedy. Absolutely nailed

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it. Playing that slightly awkward friend. Brilliant

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physical comedy and deadpan delivery. Then there

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was Jean the Paramedic in Yes Day, also 2021.

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And Coach Kim in Family Switch, just last year,

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2023. It's just relentless. And on top of the

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movies, she's doing a ton of recurring voice

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work on animated TV shows too, both kid stuff

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and adult animation. The workload is incredible

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when you list it out. For younger audiences,

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she was Ava on Summer Camp Island for 25 episodes,

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right up to 2023. And Laura Mercer on Craig of

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the Creek for seven episodes. over several years.

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Warm, character -driven stuff. But then you flip

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the switch. And she's doing adult animation.

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Brenda in Bless the Hearts for 26 episodes. And

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more recently, Olive in the Velma series for

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15 episodes. Okay, Summer Camp Island to Velma.

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That's a serious tonal shift. Gentle fantasy

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versus edgy adult meta humor. It requires totally

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different vocal performance, different timing,

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shows the depth of that groundlings training,

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maybe that ability to embody completely different

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characters through voice alone. Versatility isn't

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just genre, it's performance style. Speaking

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of voice, we have to talk about the purely audio

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side of her career, too. Podcasting, radio. She's

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built a whole other platform there. It actually

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started with radio, interestingly. Back in July

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2019, she launched What a Joke with Papa and

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Fortune with Tom Papa. Oh, I remember that on

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SiriusXM. Yeah, and it was a big deal because

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it was the first live show on the Netflix is

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a Joke channel. It's a major partnership, positioning

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her right at the center of the established comedy

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scene via Netflix and SiriusXM. And then she

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branches into podcasting more directly. She does.

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She has her own podcast, Sincerely Fortune, which

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is much more personal, conversational, lets her

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connect directly with fans. And she's part of

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that other podcast too, Handsome. Yes. Co -hosting

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Handsome with Teague Notaro and Mary Martin.

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I mean, talk about a comedy power trio. Being

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in that company just shows her standing among

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her peers. Definitely. And looking at her guest

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appearances. She's everywhere. People clearly

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want to talk to her. The list is insane. It cuts

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across all sorts of genres. The Joe Rogan Experience,

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episode 1440, reaching that huge audience. Anna

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Faris is unqualified. Political comedy like Love

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It or Leave It. Multiple times on BirdCast. Comedy,

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bang, bang. She's clearly a great guest. Reliable,

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funny, engaging. And brings depth, too. Look

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at some of the episode titles where she's guested.

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On the Sporkful the Food podcast, the title was,

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You Can't Hate Yourself Constantly, says comic

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Fortune Feimster. That tells you she's bringing

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more than just jokes. And the Glennon Doyle one.

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Oh, yeah, on We Can Do Hard Things, the title

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was just perfect. Fortune Feimster. A queer debutante

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walks into a Hooters. That's basically her entire

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story in one title, isn't it? It is. It captures

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the collision of worlds, the identity, the humor.

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Her life is her material, and podcasting is the

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perfect medium for her to share that authentic

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story. Okay, before we wrap this all up, we should

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touch on the personal side during this period

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of massive career growth. Her relationship was

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often part of her public story, part of her comedy.

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Right. She started dating Jacqueline Smith, who's

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a teacher, back in 2016. This is right when Mindy

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Project is really taking off for her. They got

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engaged in 2018, married in 2020. Yep, married

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October 23, 2020, in a small ceremony. So that

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relationship really spanned her biggest breakout

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years, becoming a major TV and voice actor. But

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there's been a recent update on that front, hasn't

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there? Sadly, yes. Our sources confirmed they

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released a joint statement just recently, June

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2nd, 2025, announcing they've made the difficult

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decision to divorce. Ah, that's tough. It's a

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reminder, isn't it, that even with huge career

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success, life happens. And that relationship

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was a big part of her narrative for fans for

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nearly a decade. It really was. So it marks an

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end of one chapter, personally, just as these

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huge new professional chapters like Zootopia

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2 are opening up. Okay, so let's try and pull

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this all together. We've gone from Belmont. And

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now voicing characters for Pixar, Disney, Netflix,

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hosting podcasts, starring in action comedies.

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It's a lot. I think it's clear her success isn't

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just about being funny. It's built on this really

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unusual foundation of, like... Extreme discipline.

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The sports, the academics, summa cum laude, president

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that's serious rigor. Fused with the structure

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of journalism, the writing skills, the observation.

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And then pouring all that into the creative chaos

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and performance demands of the groundlings. The

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result is someone who's just incredibly versatile.

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She can handle tightly written network sitcoms,

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big budget action, nuanced voice work, and personal

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stand -up storytelling. She's like a quadruple

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threat. Writer, actor, stand -up voice artist.

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And studios trust her across all these different

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arenas, family, adult, streaming, network. That

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speaks to professionalism, reliability. Traits

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may be honed way back in college. the newsroom.

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I think so. Which brings us to a final thought

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for you, the listener, to kind of chew on. We've

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seen this blend of comedic edge and mainstream

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appeal, this underlying discipline. So think

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about managing a career like hers today. It's

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multi -platform, right? Podcasts, tours, film

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shoots, TV series. It's complex. Now, consider

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her background. Not just the comedy training,

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but being student body president, graduating

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summa cum laude. Does that early experience in

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leadership in navigating structured institutions

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actually inform how she makes creative and business

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decisions today. Does that summa cum laude graduate

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and student leader manage her production company

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or negotiate deals differently than someone who

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only came up through comedy clubs? It's an interesting

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idea, isn't it? How that early structure might

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enable her sustained success and adaptability

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in the very unstructured world of entertainment.

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Yeah, maybe the most rigid parts of her past

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are exactly what gave her the foundation for

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the incredible creative freedom she has now.

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Something to ponder next time you hear her voice

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pop up, whether it's Counselor Jerry D or Nibble's

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Maple Stick. Absolutely. That's all we have time

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for on The Steep Dive. Thanks for joining us.
