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Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we are really

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diving deep, tackling the life and work of William

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Friedkin, a filmmaker whose career, well, it

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wasn't just peaks and valleys, was it? It was

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more like a series of massive explosions and

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shockwaves. Absolutely. Friedkin, active from

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1935 right up to 2023. He's absolutely central

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to that new Hollywood wave in the 70s. Director,

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producer, screenwriter. But just calling him

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new Hollywood feels, I don't know, incomplete.

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It misses that wild, almost contradictory nature

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of his career. You called him the agnostic auteur

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of extremes. Exactly, because that's the paradox,

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isn't it? That's what we want to unpack for you

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today. How does one person deliver these world

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-changing hits? I mean, films that didn't just

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succeed, they rewrote the rules. Think The French

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Connection. Think The Exorcist. Right. Absolute

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game changers. And then almost immediately. follow

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them up with these crushing, deeply personal

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failures like Sorcerer. The story behind that

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one is just legendary in its failure. And then

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the kicker, the really unexpected turn, is how

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that whole turbulent ride leads him in the last

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part of his life to become a director of all

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things high end European opera. It's just it's

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a career built on this fierce, uncompromising

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vision. Yeah. Where massive success and like.

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Total catastrophe. We're just flip sides of the

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same coin. Exactly. And that duality, that's

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the real hook here. We're talking about a guy

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who gets the Oscar for Best Director, Best Picture

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for French Connection, gives us The Exorcist,

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which, I mean, you could argue is the greatest

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horror film ever, period. No question. It's always

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in the conversation. And yet decades on, he's

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making these really tight, critically loved films

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based on stage plays like Bug or Killer Joe.

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And his very last film, The Kane Mutiny Court

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Martial, which came out just after he passed,

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fits right into that. late stage pattern, a return

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to that theatrical structure. And his personal

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life seemed just as intense. Two sons, Cedric

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and Jack, married four times. Jean Moreau, the

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iconic actress, was one wife. And Sherry Lansing,

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the producer, was his wife when he died in August

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2023. Heart failure and pneumonia at 87. Yeah,

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he was, by all accounts, engaged and fighting

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right up to the very end, just like his films.

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Okay, so to really get where that ferocious,

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sometimes really unsettling intensity in his

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films comes from. We got to go back, back to

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his beginnings in Chicago. Born there August

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29, 1935. His whole foundation seems built on,

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well, survival and displacement. Yeah, the roots

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are crucial. His parents were Jewish immigrants.

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They came from Ukraine, which was part of the

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Russian Empire back then. And it wasn't just

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casual integration. His family, grandparents

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and parents, they had to flee. There was a really

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horrific anti -Jewish pogrom in 1903. Wow. So

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that's the backdrop. That experience of being

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forced out, of persecution. must seep in. Absolutely.

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That's the bedrock. Resilient, born from terrible

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adversity. He grew up lower middle class. His

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father, Louis, sounds like quite a character

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merchant, seaman, semi -pro softball player,

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sold men's clothes later on. And his mother,

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Rachel, was a nurse. Friedkin apparently called

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her a saint. But the relationship with his father

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sounds like it was complicated. Oh, very much

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so. Complex is the word. You see film historians

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pointing this out. Often Friedkin apparently

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saw his dad with this mix of like affection,

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but also contempt. Contempt because he felt his

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father hadn't made more of himself. OK, that's

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interesting. You can almost see that mix in his

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characters, right? That blend of contradictory

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drives. Popeye Doyle, Father Karras. These guys

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are taunt. Exactly. Like that internal conflict,

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that push -pull, became the engine for so many

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of his protagonists. Often anti -heroes, driven

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by these raw, messy feelings. Maybe it's that

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classic thing, you know, the ambitious son reacting

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to what he saw as his father's lack of drive.

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Makes sense. Though, academically, he wasn't

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exactly setting the world on fire early on. He

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was pretty open about not being a great student.

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No, he was more into basketball, apparently even

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thought about going pro for a bit. But he graduated

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super young at 16. 16. He chalked it up to social

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promotion, basically. They just pushed him through,

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which kind of suggests he moved fast through

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systems he didn't entirely buy into. But that

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lack of focus, it vanished the second he hit

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the working world. Right, because he landed somewhere

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immediately. Mailroom at WBKB TV, straight out

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of high school. Basic entry level stuff. But

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the climb was just meteoric. It's almost unbelievable.

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Within two years. So he's like 18 years old.

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He's not in the mailroom anymore. He's directing

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live TV. He's directing documentaries. 18 directing.

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That's insane. It really is. He clearly had this

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natural instinct for the camera for capturing

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things as they happened. It shows he found his

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calling like instantly. And he poured all that

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intensity into it. And he had a really significant

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early success that kind of foreshadowed his later

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style, didn't he? That 1962 documentary, The

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People vs. Paul Crump. Yes. That film was fascinating

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because it wasn't just, you know, good TV. It

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had real teeth. It actually made a difference.

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It won a big award at the San Francisco Film

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Festival, sure. But the bigger deal was its impact.

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It directly helped get Paul Crump's death sentence

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commuted to life imprisonment. OK, so right there,

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early on, you see the Friedkin signature taking

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brutal reality, showing it without flinching

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and achieving something high stakes, something

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real. Exactly. That success was huge. It gave

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him credibility and it landed him a job with

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a merger documentary producer, David L. Wolper.

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That was the springboard then to Hollywood. That

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was the ticket. So 1965, he heads west, documentary

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skills honed. ready to tackle feature films.

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But first, a little run -in with royalty. Hollywood

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royalty, anyway. Alfred Hitchcock, right. He

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directed an episode of the Alfred Hitchcock Hour.

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One of the last ones, yeah. Off -season in 65.

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And you picture it. Friedkin, the young, scrappy

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documentarian, maybe a bit rebellious. And Hitchcock,

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the absolute master of control, precision, formality.

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Right. And the story goes, Hitchcock basically

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chewed him out. Why? Because Friedkin wasn't

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wearing a tie on set. No tie. That's the big

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crime. For Hitchcock, maybe it was. It's this

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perfect little clash of styles, isn't it? The

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old guard formalist versus the new wave naturalist.

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You can just imagine Friedkin bristling at that,

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maybe filing it away. Yeah, filing it under things

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I will never do. So his first actual feature

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film, not exactly a triumph. No, good times in

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1967 with Sonny and Cher. He called it unwatchable

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later. It seems like one of those jobs you take

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to get your foot in the door, you know? It really

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wasn't his style. So he learned from that. Seems

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like it. He pivoted pretty quickly back towards

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stuff with more substance, often adapted from

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the stage, which is interesting given his later

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career. He did The Birthday Party in 68, based

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on that really unsettling Harold Pinter play.

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Then a musical comedy, The Night They Raided

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Minsky's. Quite a mix. But the one that really

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stands out from that early period, maybe, is

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The Boys in the Band in 1970. Yeah, that one

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was important. Adapted from Mark Crowley's play

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and it's rightly seen as a landmark in queer

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cinema. Tackling that subject matter. Gay life

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in New York. So frankly back then. It showed

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he could bring that documentary immediacy to

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really intimate internal stories too. Stories

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about communities that hadn't really been seen

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that way on screen. So it's this rapid fire start,

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right? Documentaries, TV, Hitchcock telling him

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off, a pop musical flop, Pinter, a groundbreaking

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queer film. It's kind of chaotic. Utterly chaotic.

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Yeah. But maybe... The perfect, volatile Knicks

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needed for what came next. The explosion was

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imminent. Okay, the 70s. New Hollywood. Directors

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taking over. And Friedkin doesn't just join the

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party. He practically kicks the door down in

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1971 with The French Connection. Oh, it was a

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thunderclap. Like you said, instantly massive.

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Critically, commercially, it hit like a bomb.

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And the key was, it didn't feel like a Hollywood

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movie. It felt like something raw, something

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ripped right off the street. The critics all

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picked up on that, right? The documentary style

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saying it was almost too real for Hollywood.

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And that was deliberate. He talked about how

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Costa Gavris' film Z, that political thriller

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from 69, showed him the way. He saw that energy,

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that feeling of catching things on the fly. And

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he wanted that for French Connection. He aimed

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for a style where, quote, the Camry didn't know

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what was going to happen next. Like it was just

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desperately trying to keep up. Which makes the

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audience feel like they're right there in the

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middle of the chaos. Okay. Especially that car

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chase. Oh, the car chase. It's iconic for a reason.

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It felt dangerous because... Well, it often was.

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They were really doing it, speeding through actual

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New York traffic, sometimes without permits,

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just capturing the mayhem. That sense of reality

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wasn't faked. And it worked, big time. Awards

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season was huge for French Connection. Dominated

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it. Five Oscars, including Best Picture and,

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crucially, Best Director for Friedkin himself.

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He also nabbed the Golden Globe, the DGA Award.

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I mean, he was suddenly the guy. An absolute

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powerhouse. So how do you top that? Apparently

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by completely changing gears and revolutionizing

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another genre entirely. Two years later, 1973,

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The Exorcist. Yeah, from gritty street crime

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to supernatural horror based on William Peter

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Blatty's bestseller. And it's still, I mean,

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constantly cited as one of the greatest, if not

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the greatest horror film ever. What made it so

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effective, do you think? Was it applying that

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same documentary approach? I think that was a

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huge part of it. Yeah. He grounds it so much

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in the mundane first, the doctors, the tests,

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the quiet desperation in the house. It all feels

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incredibly real. So when the demonic stuff starts.

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It feels even more shocking because the foundation

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is so solid. Exactly. It feels like an intrusion

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into our world. It was labeled a religious horror

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thriller, and it famously got an X rating initially.

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An X rating for a major studio picture? That's

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wild. It shows you how intense, how visceral

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it was for audiences at the time. Unprecedented,

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really. But the establishment had to take notice.

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Ten Oscar nominations, including Best Director

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again for Friedkin. It won for screenplay and

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sound. So he proved he could bring artistic weight,

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critical acclaim, to even the most controversial

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genre material. Absolutely. He was on top of

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the world. He had all the power, all the creative

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freedom. Which, as we know, can be a dangerous

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thing for an auteur's. What's the classic mistake

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when you have that kind of blank check? You chase

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the dream project. The personal obsession. Interestingly,

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he, Coppola, and Peter Bogdanovich actually tried

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to institutionalize their power around that.

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They formed the director's company at Paramount

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in 73. Right. I remember hearing about that.

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What happened? Well, Coppola made the conversation.

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Bogdanovich did Daisy Miller. But Friedkin, he

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clashed with the others, apparently felt constrained,

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and just walked away. Abruptly. Huh. So much

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for collaboration. Yeah, kind of killed the company.

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It really underscores how much he valued his

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own singular vision above all else. Which leads

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us directly to... The crash. The fall after the

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peak. Sorcerer, 1977. This was the film for him,

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his passion project. He wanted to remake Henri

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-Georges Clouseau's 1953 masterpiece, The Wages

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of Fear. He sighed as this perfect existential

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thriller. And he went all in, no compromise,

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total realism, which meant a hellish production.

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Mostly shot in the Dominican Republic jungles.

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The stories are insane disease, terrible weather,

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trucks falling apart, bridges collapsing, just

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logistical nightmares constantly. He pushed everyone,

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including himself, to the absolute limit. And

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the budget showed it, right? Ballooned like crazy.

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Ended up around $22 million. Now, you have to

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remember, for 1977, that's a fortune. Like, Close

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Encounters cost about $20 million that year.

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This was a gargantuan gamble. That timing. Oh,

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the timing. Could not have been worse. Sorcerer

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opens exactly one week after a little film called

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Star Wars. Ouch. Yeah. Lucas' film just changed

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everything overnight. Suddenly everyone wanted

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upbeat escapist fantasy. And here comes Friedkin

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with his gritty, dark, sweaty existential nightmare

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about desperate men driving nitroglycerin through

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hell. Audiences just weren't having it. Not at

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all. It got completely buried, ignored. It was

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a massive financial disaster. But for Friedkin,

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it was more than that. It was personal, right?

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He considered it his best. He called it his finest

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film. To pour everything into that, to believe

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it's your masterpiece and then have it just evaporate.

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Critically and commercially swallowed by this

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pop culture phenomenon. It must have been utterly

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devastating. Yeah. A soul crushing blow, you

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imagine. And it hurt his career badly. Big time.

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Damaged his reputation, his bankability. He tried

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to bounce back quickly with the Brinks job in

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78. Kind of a crime comedy. Didn't work either.

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Nope. Another commercial disappointment. The

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golden boy of the early 70s had definitely hit

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a rough patch. A very public, very painful stumble.

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So heading into the 80s, Friedkin still got that

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reputation right. Uncompromising. Tenth tense.

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And he dives right back into controversy with

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cruising in 1980. Oh, cruising. Yeah, that was

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that was something else. Based on a Gerald Walker

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crime novel, stars Al Pacino as a cop going undercover

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in New York's gay S &amp;M scene to catch a killer.

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The subject matter alone was just. Incendiary

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for the time. And the reaction was immediate,

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wasn't it? Even during filming. Huge protests,

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mostly from gay rights activists who were really

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concerned, understandably, that the film would

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just reinforce negative stereotypes, link the

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community with violence. It was incredibly contentious.

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And it still is, right? People still debate that

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film fiercely, how it portrays that world, its

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use of identity in a thriller context. Absolutely.

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It remains a really complex, debated film. Critically,

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it got hammered at the time. Commercially, it

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did. Moderate box office. But the critical reception

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was brutal. Which brings us back to that amazing

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Friedkin duality. Extremes again. Exactly. Here's

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the guy with the Oscars, the Golden Globes, and

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for Cruising, he gets Razzie nominations. Worst

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director and worst screenplay. That's incredible.

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The Razzies. How many directors can claim both?

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Best director, Oscar, and worst director, Razzy

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Nom. Not many. It's like the perfect symbol of

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his career, isn't it? Right. Willing to go there,

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to make the film he wanted to make, regardless

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of whether the reaction was acclaim or, you know,

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raspberries. Right after that whole firestorm,

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though, things got serious on a personal level.

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His health? Yeah, the intensity might have finally

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caught up. He had a major heart attack, March

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6, 1981. Turns out it was due to a genetic defect.

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It laid him up for months, required serious rehab,

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a real wake -up call physically. Must have been

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terrifying. After surviving that, did his work

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change? Well, his next film was kind of different

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tonally. Deal of the Century in 1983. It was

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a satire about arms dealing, Chevy Chase and

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Sigourney Weaver. Trying for dark comedy, maybe.

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Didn't quite land with audiences used to his

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thrillers. And then he did something really unexpected

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for an Oscar -winning director back then. music

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videos. Totally unexpected. It's wild to think

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about now. A major filmmaker like him jumping

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into MTV right when it was exploding. He was

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actually one of the first really high profile

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film directors to do it. Which ones did he do?

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Laura Branigan's Self Control in 1984. That video

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is super moody, very atmospheric, very 80s. And

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then he did Barbra Streisand's version of Somewhere

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from West Side Story in 85. It shows adaptability,

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I guess, applying his visual style to this totally

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different commercial format. Definitely. But

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he didn't stay away from his signature genre

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for long. He came roaring back with a really

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strong crime thriller in 85, To Live and Die

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in L .A. Ah, yes. William Peterson, Willem Dafoe.

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That one got great reviews. Huge critical favorite.

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People saw it as a major return to form. Lots

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of comparisons to The French Connection, especially

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because of another. Absolutely insane car chase

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sequence. The one on the freeway going the wrong

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way. That's the one shot against traffic on the

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L .A. freeway. Yeah. Just pure Friedkin adrenaline.

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That raw, chaotic energy was back in full force.

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So the late. 80s into the 90s, he stuck with

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thrillers and horror mostly. Pretty much. He

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did a courtroom thriller called Rampage in 87,

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which Roger Ebert actually gave a thumbs up to.

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Friedkin wrote and produced that one too. Okay.

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Then there was a supernatural horror film, The

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Guardian, in 1990, which has kind of become a

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cult thing. But maybe the most revealing film

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from this period, in terms of his mindset, was

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Jade in 1995. The erotic thriller with David

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Caruso and Linda Fiorentino, that one didn't

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do well, did it? Critically savaged. Audiences

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hated it. A definite dud. But here's the thing.

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Friedkin himself later said Jade was one of his

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favorite films that he directed. Seriously. After

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Fresh Connection and Exorcist, he picks Jade.

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It tells you everything, doesn't it? It shows

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that the... absolute disaster of Sorcerer, that

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critical and commercial rejection, it never broke

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his own internal measure of success. If he felt

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he'd achieved what he set out to do, if it was

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true to his vision, then the external reaction,

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positive or negative, just didn't matter in the

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same way. He kept following his own beat. Okay,

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so moving into the 2000s, the century turns and

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Friedkin gets a nice reminder of his own legacy,

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right? Yeah, The Exorcist gets re -released in

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2000, the version you've never seen, the director's

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cut with extra foot. Okay. And it's a hit all

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over again. It makes like $40 million just in

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the U .S., shows the staying power. And this

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period also marks a really interesting return

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for him stylistically. Back to adapting stage

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plays, kind of a full circle from Birthday Party

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and Boys in the Band. Exactly. And he found a

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perfect collaborator in the playwright, Tracy

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Letts. He directed three films based on Letts'

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work. And they were all really well received

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critically. A definite late career resurgence.

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First one was Bug in 2006 with Ashley Judd and

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Michael Shannon. Right. He saw the play in 2004

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and apparently felt this immediate connection,

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said he felt metaphorically on the same page

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as Letts. He was drawn to that claustrophobic,

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intense, dialogue -heavy story. And it paid off.

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The film won the Fipressi Prize at the Cannes

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Film Festival. Fipressi. That's the International

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Film Critics Award. Yep. A big deal, especially

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at Cannes. It signaled that the serious film

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world was recognizing this as a significant comeback

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artistically. Then came Killer Joe in 2011. Also

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Letts. That one starred Matthew McConaughey in

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a really startling role. Oh, yeah. The McConaissance

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was partly fueled by roles like that. It's a

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super dark comedy. Very shocking. Premiered at

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Venice. It got great reviews again. Critics loved

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it. Commercially. Not so much. Why not? If the

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reviews were good. It got slapped with an NC

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-17 rating. Mostly for violence and some pretty

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graphic sexual content. And, you know, an NC

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-17 is basically the kiss of death commercially.

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Limits advertising. Limits where it can play.

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So, classic Friedkin again. Uncompromising vision,

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even if it hurts the box office. Textbook. He

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clearly wasn't going to soften the material to

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get an R rating. artistic integrity over commercial

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prospects. Even with great reviews, it just couldn't

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find a wide audience. And the final film in that

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Letts trilogy and his last film overall was The

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Kane Mutiny Court Martial, finished just before

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he died, debuted posthumously at Venice in 2023.

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A fitting end to that cycle. Yeah. But it wasn't

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just movies in this late period. He also went

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back to TV, interestingly. Right. He directed

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a couple episodes of CSI. Yeah, the original

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CSI, Crime Scene Investigation. He did one called

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Cockroaches. directed their big 200th episode,

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Mascara, which is cool because it reunited him

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with William Peterson. The star of To Live and

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Die in L .A. Exactly. So you see him comfortable

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revisiting collaborators, revisiting formats

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like TV where he started, applying that intense

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focus style to episodic storytelling. And he

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even went back to documentaries, didn't he? But

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with a very freaking twist. He did. In 2017,

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he released The Devil and Father Amorth. Which

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is just wild when you think about it. How so?

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Well, it's a documentary about Father Gabriel

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Amorth, the Vatican's chief exorcist, performing

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the ninth exorcism on a particular woman in Italy.

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So he's taking the subject matter of his most

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famous movie, The Exorcist. And tackling it for

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real as a documentary. Exactly. Like he did with

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Paul Crump way back when. Applying that objective,

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observational camera to this incredibly charged,

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supernatural subject. Seeking truth in the mystery.

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It's the perfect synthesis of his career extremes.

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But the biggest surprise, the thing nobody saw

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coming, was the opera. He's becoming a major

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opera director. It's genuinely astonishing. And

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this wasn't just like a little side project.

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He directed opera professionally internationally

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from 1998 right up until near the end of his

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life. It was a serious second career. What's

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so surprising about it, though? He worked with

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actors. He understood drama. But think about

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the control. Friedkin's film signature was often

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about capturing chaos, right? That documentary

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feel, unpredictable locations, the camera struggling

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to keep up. Opera is the polar opposite. How

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do you mean? It's total structure. The music

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is set. The libretto is fixed. The timing is

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incredibly precise. There's very little room

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for improvisation in the way he worked on film.

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It's all about interpretation with an incredibly

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rigid constraints. So maybe he found that structure

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freeing. After decades of battling chaos on film

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sets. That's a great way to put it. Maybe he

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needed that discipline, that formality. Yeah.

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And the scale of his opera work shows how serious

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he was. He did Berg's Wuzik in Florence in 98,

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double bill of Bartok's Duke Bluebeard's Castle

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and Puccini's Gianni Scicchi for the L .A. Opera

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in 2002. Strauss's Salome in Munich in 2006.

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Wow. These are major works, major houses. Absolutely.

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And it continued late Verdi's Rigoletto back

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in Florence in 2015. This wasn't dabbling. It

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was a deep dive into a completely different artistic

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world, one defined by tradition and structure,

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standing in stark contrast to the raw energy

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of French connection. It just shows his constant

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need to explore. Different ways of expressing

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himself, I guess. Capturing the moment or interpreting

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the score. Constantly pushing, constantly exploring.

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And alongside all this, he managed to write his

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memoir, The Friedkin Connection, published in

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2013, getting his own story down before that

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final film, K -Mutiny, came out after he was

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gone. So to really understand the guy who could

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make The Exorcist and then direct Salome at the

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opera, we need to touch on his own beliefs, right?

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His philosophy. Yeah, it's pretty key. He was

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raised Jewish, but later in life he described

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himself as an agnostic. Agnostic, meaning unsure

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about God's existence. Essentially, yes. But

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it wasn't a simple dismissive agnosticism. He

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actually clarified it. He said he strongly believed

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in the teachings of Jesus Christ. And he felt

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that while things like God and the soul were

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ultimately unknowable mysteries, anyone who outright

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denied God was being dishonest about what he

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called the mystery of fate. The mystery of fate.

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That feels very relevant to his films. Hugely

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relevant. That sense that life can just be upended

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by random chance, by forces beyond our control.

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That's everywhere in his work. Think about the

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sheer arbitrary cruelty and French connection,

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the random horror of possession in The Exorcist,

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the absolutely doomed nature of The Mission and

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Sorcerer. His characters are always battling

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fate, battling this indifferent, mysterious universe.

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Okay, that makes a lot of sense. What about his

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film influences? Who shaped him? Sounds like

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it wasn't just Hollywood. Definitely not just

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Hollywood, especially early on. He always pointed

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to the great European directors and Kurosawa.

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Jean -Luc Godard, Fellini, Truffaut. Those are

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the names you mentioned. The giants of world

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cinema. Any specific films that were touchstones

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for him? He talked a lot about Henri -Georges

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Clouseau. Not just Wages of Fear, which obviously

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obsessed him enough to remake it as Sorcerer,

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but also Clouseau's other masterpiece, the psychological

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thriller Le Diabolique. That one clearly left

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a mark. And Hitchcock. Besides the Thai incident.

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Oh, Psycho. He said he watched Psycho over and

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over again. studied its construction, its suspense,

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and that documentary influence never faded either.

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He cited Harvest of Shame, that 1960 TV doc about

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migrant workers, as being really fundamental

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to his understanding of how powerful raw, observed

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reality could be on camera. What about Citizen

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Kane? Isn't that the film everyone says inspired

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him as a kid? That's the common story, the myth

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almost. But Friedkin himself actually corrected

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that. He said, no, he didn't see Citizen Kane

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until 1960, when he was already 25. And that's

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when it hit him. That's when he really became

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a serious student of film, a true cineast. Interesting.

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So the conversion came later than people thought.

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And just to circle back on his style, that breakthrough

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with French Connection, it really came down to

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seeing Z. That seems to be the catalyst, yeah.

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Caustic Everest's films showed him how to merge

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that documentary energy, that feeling of immediacy

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with a fictional narrative. That documentary

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-like realism wasn't just style, it was technique.

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It was a conscious choice. He wanted the camera

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to feel like it just stumbled onto the scene,

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you know, capturing things as they happened,

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injecting that feeling of unpredictability, almost

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danger, which he pulled off perfectly in French

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Connection. So when you look at his whole career,

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all the awards, it's just such a story of contrasts.

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Incredible contrast. He got huge honors later

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in life. The Golden Lion for Lifetime Achievement

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at Venice in 2013. Other big awards in Munich,

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Saturn Awards. recognition from the industry

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that he was a major figure, a lasting influence.

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But you always have to mention the other side.

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You have to, because how many filmmakers win

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the Oscar, win Golden Globes, and also get nominated

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for a Razzie for Worst Director? It's almost

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unheard of. He was just completely unwilling

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to bend his vision, whether that led to glory

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or disaster. Okay, so wrapping this all up, what's

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the takeaway on William Friedkin? I think his

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career is just uniquely defined by these incredibly

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sharp turns, these extremes, right? And this

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absolute unwavering commitment to whatever he

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saw as artistic truth. He mastered that blend

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of documentary grit and narrative punch, creating

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films that shook the industry. But that same

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intensity, that refusal to compromise. Led to

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some spectacular flameouts. especially Sorcerer,

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the film he loved most, which became this symbol

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of noble failure. He was this agnostic auteur,

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always digging for something raw, something true,

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whether it was on the streets, in a demonic possession,

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in a tightly wound stage play, or even within

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the rigid structure of grand opera, always searching.

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Which brings us back to that shadow, doesn't

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it? The shadow of Sorcerer. When you have these

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monumental early hits, French Connection, The

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Exorcist films that changed the world, how does

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a failure, that personal, that catastrophic,

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especially for a film you believe is your masterpiece,

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how does that haunt you? How does it shape every

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choice you make for the next, what, 40 years?

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Does it make you play it safer? Or does it just

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make you double down, become even more defiant,

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pushing towards the next risk, the next controversy,

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or maybe seeking refuge in the absolute control

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of something like opera? that's the question

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he leaves us with isn't it the ultimate mystery

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of fate in his own tumultuous brilliant and utterly

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uncompromising career
