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Welcome to the Deep Dive, the place where we

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move past the headlines, sift through your source

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material, and hand you the synthesized knowledge

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you need. Today, we are focusing on a career

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so long, so diverse, and frankly, so critically

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acclaimed that it almost defies classification.

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We're talking about the incomparable Andrea Martin.

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Yeah, we really are. We're examining a performer

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born Andrea Louise Martin, January 15, 1947,

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that's in Portland, Maine. Her professional life

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kicks off around 1970, so we're looking at, what,

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over 50 years? Easily. And what makes her so

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unique, I think, is the sheer gap between her

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two main areas of... Well, mastery. Right. First,

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you've got the improvisational, almost anarchic,

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you know, character driven world of sketch comedy.

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SCTV territory. Exactly. And then completely

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differently, you have the very structured high

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states award winning environment of the Broadway

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stage. It's like two different planets. Absolutely.

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And the sources really paint this picture of

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the ultimate entertainment polymath. And we're

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not just talking about someone who, you know,

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dabbled a bit here and there. No, not at all.

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You definitely know her as Edith Prickley, right?

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The leopard print. The station manager from the

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legendary SCTV. Instantly recognizable. And then,

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maybe even more globally, you know her as the

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wonderfully chaotic beloved Ambula from My Big

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Fat Greek Wedding. Oh yeah, a role that just

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exploded. But the stat that really blows your

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mind, the one that underlines this incredible

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versatility, is her Broadway success. Okay, yeah,

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this is key. She holds the actual record for

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the most nominations. Five for the Tony Award

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for Best Featured Actress in a Musical. Five

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nominations. In that specific category, that's

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staggering. It suggests this level of precision,

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scene -stealing ability, and just consistent

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performance rigor that seems almost fundamentally

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opposed to the spontaneous creation needed for

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sketch comedy. Right. How do you do both at such

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a high level? So our mission today is really

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to unpack that journey for you, the listener.

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We want to dig into how her unique Armenian heritage,

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her early dramatic training, and that really

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pivotal move to Canada, how all that created

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a framework strong enough to support a career

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that could jump seamlessly from, you know, the

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fictional airwaves of Melonville. Right, from

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SCTV. To literally setting records on 42nd Street.

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It's an amazing trajectory. And to really get

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the woman, I think you have to start with the

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family, with the roots. Yeah, it feels vital

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to begin right there in Portland, Maine. Andrea

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Martin was the eldest of three kids, born to

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Sybil Mnuchin and John Papazian Martin. And the

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family history she carries, it isn't just, you

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know, typical American dream stuff. Deeply, deeply

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connected to the tumultuous history of the Armenian

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people. Yeah, the sources are really clear on

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this. When we talk about her background, we're

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talking about a story of profound survival. Her

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paternal grandparents, they were originally from

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Van, which is in present -day Turkey. And they

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were direct survivors of the Armenian genocide.

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I mean, they navigated just unimaginable trauma

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to build a life in the United States. And that

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whole journey of immigration, it leads to one

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of the most significant early decisions. affecting

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her identity which was the changing of the family

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name right her paternal grandfather who apparently

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was something of an amateur actor himself which

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is interesting oh really yeah he made that really

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key choice to change the surname from Papazian

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to Martin. And that decision, it just speaks

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volumes, doesn't it, about the kind of pressures

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that ethnic immigrant communities faced in the

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early 20th century, especially those who had

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fled horrific violence and were just seeking

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security, stability. Absolutely. Changing the

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name was such a clear attempt to, well, blend

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in, to facilitate assimilation into the U .S.

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mainstream, maybe shed a marker of difference

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to protect the next generation. Exactly. And

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Martin herself has talked pretty openly about

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this kind of duality within her own family. She

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mentioned how her grandparents, the generation

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that actually lived through the trauma, they

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did not know what assimilation was. Right. They

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just kept their culture, their language, their

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identity, because their whole frame of reference

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was survival, not necessarily social integration

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into America. But then her parents' generation,

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they were the ones striving to fit that American

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mold. They worked incredibly hard, it seems,

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to minimize those cultural markers. It's a pretty

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common dynamic, right, for the children of immigrants

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navigating that tension. Totally. And it probably

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explains why Martin herself found herself reconnecting

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with her ancestry much later in life, you know,

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after kind of navigating the path her parents

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had set out. Yeah. But it's a tension, sure,

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but it's also potentially a really rich source

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for performance, isn't it? The sources kind of

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suggest that this environment, this mix of deep

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ethnic history alongside the drive to observe

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and assimilate, it might have primed her for

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the kind of detailed character work she became

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famous for later. That makes sense. Whether it's

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the exaggerated accents of, say, Perini Scleroso

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on SCTV or the kind of keenly observed humor

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of Aunt Vula. That's a great point. What's also

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fascinating, though, is how her introduction

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to actual formal drama happened through what

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sounds like an almost accidental curriculum.

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Oh, the story about her mother. Yeah. When Andrea

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was just two years old, her mother, Sybil, broke

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her leg. And during this really long recovery

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period, her mom just started reading to her daughter.

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A lot. And we're not talking simple bedtime stories

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here. This was apparently pretty rigorous stuff.

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They take turns reading some demanding literary

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works. I mean, can you imagine being a toddler

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and your mom is introducing you to the rhythms

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of Shakespeare? Right. Or the meter of Edgar

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Allan Poe's The Raven. Wow. That's some intense

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early exposure. It's hard to really overestimate

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the foundational impact of having your linguistic

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and emotional toolkit built on Shakespeare and

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Poe from that age. Oh, definitely. It trains

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your ear for cadence, for timing, dramatic delivery,

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all skills that are absolutely essential, whether

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you're delivering a big monologue on Broadway

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or trying to land a punchline in a three -minute

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sketch. Yeah, it's all performance. And the signs

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of this early theatricality, they showed up pretty

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quickly. We have documented proof of her first

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public performance. She was eight years old at

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the Rotunda of the Portland Museum of Art. Okay.

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And she wasn't just playing the piano, which

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she was learning. She also recited a poem about

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a kitten. She understood, even way back then,

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the power of combining things. A presentation.

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A multi -hyphenate from age eight. Pretty much.

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And that desire for the spotlight, it clearly

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continued through her school years. She graduated

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from Deering High School in 1965. She was active

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in the dramatic club, naturally. And in what

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feels like a classic precursor to stardom, she

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also won the title of Miss Deering High in 1965.

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Okay, Miss Deering High. From there, she continued

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her training more formally at Emerson College,

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really solidifying her commitment to the performing

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arts. So you've got this combination. The profound

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cultural background, you know, survival and assimilation.

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Then this intensely dramatic reading curriculum

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from her mom. And then the formal training at

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Emerson. It really set the stage for her professional

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launch. But that launch needed, well, a change

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of scenery. Right. After Emerson, Martin landed

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a role almost straight away in a touring company

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of You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown. And that

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show became her ticket, not just to New York

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initially, but eventually north to Canada. which,

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as it turned out, would be the absolute epicenter

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of her creative development. That relocation

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was huge, a seismic shift, really. In 1970, she

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makes this crucial decision to move permanently

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from New York City to Toronto. And unlike a lot

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of American performers who maybe struggle to

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get traction outside the big U .S. markets, Martin,

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according to the sources, immediately found consistent

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work, diverse work, too, in Canada's growing

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film, theater, and TV industries. And just two

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years after that move, she gets cast in what

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you can only really call a nexus point of comedy

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history the 1972 tarantula production of the

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musical godspell oh godspell yeah This wasn't

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just a successful show. It was like a petri dish

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for future comedy and drama legends. Totally.

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It was this incredible constellation of stars

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all forming at the same time. Martin played the

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character Robin, right? Yep. And her co -stars

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included names that would basically define comedy

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for the next generation. Gilda Radner. Wow. Martin

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Short, Eugene Levy, Victor Garber. And maybe

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crucially for the show's musical feel, Paul Schaffer

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was the musical director. Just think about the

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training environment that provided a live musical

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show, night after night, constant collaboration,

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and just the shared ambition of this group of

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performers who were all clearly on the cusp of

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something big. Yeah. It created not just professional

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ties, but deep personal relationships that would

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really form the backbone of her career later

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on. Like with Martin Short. Right. But while

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she's honing her stage presence alongside these

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future comedy giants, the sources show she was

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also exploring a totally different path in genre

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film. Yeah, this is wild. She showed this chilling

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versatility by winning the Sitges Film Festival

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Award for Best Actress for the 1973 horror film

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Cannibal Girls. Best Actress at a Film Festival.

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for cannibal girls that's the kind of detail

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that just defines her career right extreme technical

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skill applied to completely unexpected genres

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and she followed that up with a pretty key role

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in the 1974 canadian slasher classic black christmas

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she played phyllis the sort of bookish sorority

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sister it's almost hard to square the future

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broadway titan with an early canadian scream

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queen but there she is in the credits that constant

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kind of stage work and genre hopping eventually

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brought her into the orbit of the second city

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improvisational troupe oh which of course provided

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the engine for her biggest collaborative success

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sctv second city television which ran roughly

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from 1976 to 1984 sctv was just It was a revelation,

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wasn't it? Because it didn't just do sketches.

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It created this entire fictional world, the TV

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station in the town of Mellonville. Exactly.

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And Martin joined a core cast that was just the

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absolute peak of improvisational genius at the

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time. John Candy, Dave Thomas, Eugene Levy, Catherine

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O 'Hara, Harold Ramis, Joe Flaherty. Just an

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unbelievable lineup. An embarrassment of riches.

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Totally. And this is where we really need to

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connect her background to those breakthrough

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characters. Her most famous, indelible creation,

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the woman basically synonymous with SCTV's chaos,

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was Edith Brickley. Oh, Edith Brickley! The station

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manager, yeah. Famous for the leopard print outfits.

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Always the leopard print. And her constant, like,

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high -energy exasperation dealing with the station

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owner, Guy Caballero. The genius of Edith Brickley

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wasn't just the look, though. It was the character.

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Born entirely out of improv and just really sharp

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observation, this high -strung, perpetually frustrated,

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low -level executive type. It took immense comedic

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commitment to anchor the absurdity happening

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all around her. Yeah, she was the grounded one,

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ironically. Kind of, but then look at her other

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signature characters, Perini Scleroso. They heavily

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accented Eastern European immigrant character,

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often seen on Perini Scleroso's House of Cutrate

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furniture. Hilarious. And if you connect that

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back to what we were saying earlier, her ability

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to embody and observe these distinct, often European

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sounding dialects, it probably came directly

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from that rich ethnic environment in her childhood

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home back in Portland. That makes total sense.

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You see the threads connecting. And you also

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see the internal ecosystem of her career forming

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right there on sctv she created the children's

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entertainer mrs falbo right a character so well

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realized so distinct that it served as the direct

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inspiration for wanda falbo the word fairy the

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recurring role she played years later on Sesame

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Street. Amazing. Her SCTV work just kept paying

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dividends down the line. Absolutely. And furthermore,

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just the depth of her mimicry skills showed her

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technical range, her celebrity impersonations.

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She could capture not just the look, but the

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specific vocal quality, the energy of incredibly

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distinct personality. Who does she do? Oh, everyone.

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From the brassy, almost operatic Ethel Merman

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to the high glamour. Very specific physicality

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of Liza Minnelli, Barbra Streisand, Sophia Loren,

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even Mother Teresa. Mother Teresa. Okay, that's

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range. That speaks to the level of detail, right?

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That separates a good character comedian from

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a true master. It's not just doing a funny voice.

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It's the physical, the vocal, the sort of historical

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embodiment of the person. Yeah, the essence.

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And here's a really crucial detail that elevates

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her beyond just being a performer on the show.

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She was a primary creative architect. Martin

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won two Primetime Emmy Awards for outstanding

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writing for a variety of music program consecutively

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in 1982 and 1983. For writing SCTV. Two writing

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Emmys. Okay, that confirms it. She was integral

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to actually structuring the sketches, defining

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the comedic tone of SCTV. She wasn't just delivering

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the lines somebody else wrote. She was generating

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the scenarios, shaping the dialogue for that

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incredible ensemble. That technical background

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in writing comedy, that must have been critical

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for the next stage of her career when she had

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to adapt to other people's screenplays. Yeah,

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absolutely. After that golden age of SCTV wrapped

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up, Martin showed the kind of resilience you

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need for real artistic longevity. She transitioned

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seemingly flawlessly into this really prolific

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screen career, and that resulted in the role

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that probably made her a global household name,

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Aunt Vula. aunt vula the phenomenon starting

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with the huge huge success of my big fat greek

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wedding back in 2002 it's arguably the most widely

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recognized credit in her entire filmography it

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really is yeah and that role earned the entire

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cast a screen actors guild award nomination in

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2003 for outstanding performance by a cast which

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is a big deal. Aunt Vula is just a masterclass

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in committed character performance, isn't she?

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She's so high energy, completely boundary -free,

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loving, but also slightly aggressive in her hospitality,

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you know? She became the absolute comedic anchor

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of that movie. I really did. And it's interesting,

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thinking back to Section 1 again, how she seemed

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to take those observational skills, maybe honed

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from doing Prini Scleroso, and adapted them to

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capture the specific energy of that Greek -American

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family dynamic. Totally. And she never let go

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of that character, which also speaks to a certain

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commercial savvy, maybe? Oh, yeah. She reprised

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Vula in the TV spinoff My Big Fat Greek Life.

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Right, the short -lived series. And then across

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two decades in the sequels, My Big Fat Greek

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Wedding 2 in 2016 and My Big Fat Greek Wedding

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3 just recently in 2023. Few performers manage

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to sustain a character like that over that many

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versions and different media formats. It's pretty

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rare. But while Vula is iconic, if you look at

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her broader filmography, it reveals a really

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strategic choice, it seems, to avoid being typecast.

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Definitely. She popped up in serious political

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satire like Wag the Dog in 97. Great film. The

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cult musical Hedwig and the Angry Inch in 2001.

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She even went back into the Mel Brooks comedy

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world for the film version of The Producers in

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2005. And don't forget her early genre loyalty.

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We mentioned her role in the original 1974. Black

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Christmas. Right Phyllis. Well remarkably she

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came back to that franchise to play Mrs. Mack

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in the 2006 remake. Which is a nice little bit

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of metacontinuity in her career. That's fantastic.

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I didn't realize that. Beyond live action, she's

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also shown this profound mastery in voice acting,

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which requires a completely different set of

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technical skills, right? Yeah. Conveying emotion,

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physicality, timing, just using your voice. Oh,

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yeah. It's a real art form. And her credits are

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like a who's who of animation history. Yeah.

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She was Flegman Koff and the old woman in the

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big animated feature Anastasia in 97. Okay. She

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was Aunt Miriam Pickle. in the Rugrats movie.

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And maybe most memorably for a certain generation,

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she originated the voice of Miss Fowl in Jimmy

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Neutron, boy genius back in 2001. Mrs. Fowl.

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Yeah, that's a great deep dive credit because

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she took what was essentially a supporting role

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in the movie and turned it into a cornerstone

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of the TV series. She reprised it as a main character

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for... What, 37 episodes of The Adventures of

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Jimmy Neutron? Boy genius. Yeah, exactly. Her

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voice is just everywhere if you start listening

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for it. Queen slug for a butt in the Earthworm

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Jim cartoon. No way. Yep. And even Mrs. Nahasa

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Pima Petalon, Apu's mother in The Simpsons. Wow.

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Okay. Her television footprint, the live action

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stuff, is equally varied for the sci -fi fans

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listening. She played Ishka Quark's mother, Mugi,

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in Star Trek. Oh, Deep Space Nine. Which is a

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highly technical environment, right? Delivering

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complex Ferengi dialogue under layers and layers

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of makeup and prosthetics. Oh, yeah. Heavy stuff.

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It's really a testament to her adaptability that

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she was one of only two actresses ever asked

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to play that specific recurring role. They trusted

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her with it. That's quite an endorsement. What

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really stands out in her more recent career choices,

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though, is this willingness to pivot quite dramatically,

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proving she's definitely not just resting on

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her, you know, comedy laurels. Right. For three

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seasons, from 2021 to 2024, she co -starred as

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Sister Andrea in the supernatural drama series

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Evil. And that pivot feels absolutely deliberate.

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She took on this serious, dramatic role, completely

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stripped of the familiar comedic stuff of Vulo

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or Prickly. Totally different. And just excelled.

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That performance earned her a Critics' Choice

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Television Award nomination for Best Supporting

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Actress. Which is a massive achievement, especially

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later in a career. It just shows her commitment

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to remaining a relevant, respected, dramatic

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actress. Exactly. And now she's enjoying this

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great recurring role as Joy in the huge hit series,

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Only Murders in the Building. Another great part.

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This adaptability, the ability to jump from sci

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-fi aliens to supernatural nuns to a hit Hulu

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comedy, it just shows that producers and directors

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trust her completely. Whatever the medium, whatever

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the tone, they know she can deliver. Okay, so

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everything we've talked about so far, the sketch

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comedy genius, the global character stardom with

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Ann Vula, it's all incredibly impressive. But

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to truly grasp... the, I guess, singularity of

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Andrea Martin's career, we absolutely have to

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spend some serious time on her work on the stage

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because that's where her consistent brilliance

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has really cemented her place in theatrical history.

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Yeah, this is the big one. She holds the record.

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And we really need to stress the importance of

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the statistic. Yeah. Five nominations for the

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Tony Award for Best Featured Actress in a Musical.

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Five. That just doesn't happen by accident. It

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speaks to five distinct performances in five

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different shows across decades where she consistently

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stole the show and earned critical recognition

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as the best supporting performer on Broadway

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that year. Exactly. And that category, best featured

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actress, it's often seen as the domain of the

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true craftsman. The performer whose excellence

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just elevates the entire production, even if

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they aren't. the big name carrying the show at

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the box office, to get that level of recognition

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five times, it's simply unprecedented. So when

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did it start? Her Broadway debut was in 1992

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in the musical My Favorite Year. Right. And it

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was an instant, undeniable smash hit for her

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personally. She didn't just get nominated. She

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swept the major awards for that season. She won

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the Tony Award, the Drama Desk Award, and the

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Theater World Award for Best Featured Actress

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in a Musical. All three for her debut. Yeah.

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That's just a staggering start to a Broadway

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career, especially for someone primarily famous

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for sketch comedy like SCTV. It basically signaled

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to the entire industry, didn't it? That the wonderful

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chaos of Melonville contained a performer who

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could absolutely handle the highly regimented,

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technically demanding world of a Broadway book

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musical. Yeah, that first Tony win was like confirmation

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of the talent. But the second one that cemented

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her legendary status and it came 20 years later.

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Right. The second win was in 2013 for the revival

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of Pippin. She played Bertha, who is Pippin's

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grandmother. It's a physically demanding role

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anyway, but in this production especially. And

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she had to sing that classic showstopper, No

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Time at All. And here we should dive into the

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specific craft involved. The birth role in that

00:20:14.690 --> 00:20:18.029
particular Diane Paulus revival required extraordinary

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physical commitment. Oh, absolutely. It wasn't

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just singing the song. It involved really high

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-level physical comedy, including... quite complex

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acrobatic maneuvers. I mean, in some performances,

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she was literally singing while swinging on a

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trapeze. Singing on a trapeze. At that point

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in her career, that is the ultimate contrast

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to SCTV, isn't it? Totally. In sketch comedy,

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you invent the physical language on the fly.

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On Broadway, you have to execute this highly

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specific, repetitive, sometimes physically dangerous

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choreography eight times a week perfectly while

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maintaining your vocal stamina. Yeah. And that

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single performance is Berthin. It secured her

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second Tony Award, plus another Drama Desk Award,

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an Outer Critics Circle Award, and an Elliot

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Norton Award. Just another sweep. Incredible.

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Those two wins are the absolute highlights, but

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the other three nominations just underscore her

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consistency, right? Exactly. Her other nominated

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roles included the really demanding, almost operatic

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vocal work of Candide in 1997. Okay. The classic

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American musical Oklahoma in 2002, playing Aunt

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Eller. Right. And returning to the Mel Brooks

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world again. with Young Frankenstein in 2007

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playing Frau Blucher. Nice. Exactly. Yeah. The

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sheer breadth of musical style she mastered across

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those nominated roles is remarkable. And she

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wasn't limited to musical theater either. She

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showed equal skill in straight plays. She earned

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another Tony nomination, this time for Best Featured

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Actress in a Play, for playing Dottie Otley in

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the 2016 revival of the classic Farce Noises

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Off. Which is one of the most demanding comedic

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roles in theater, period. Totally. And she also

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won an Outer Critics Circle Award for her performance

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in the play Act One, she just kept delivering.

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And her willingness to challenge herself even

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extended to the really personal and demanding

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world of solo performance. Back in 1996, her

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critically acclaimed one -woman show Nude, Nude,

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Totally Nude. It's a great title. Isn't it? It

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earned her a Drama Desk nomination for Outstanding

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One -Person Show. That requires you to carry

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an entire evening, just you, relying only on

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your own charisma and material. That takes guts.

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But the physical demands of this level of theater,

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they are unforgiving. And the sources do document

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a moment where that commitment came at a pretty

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serious cost. Ah, yeah, the injury. In 2019,

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she was all set to perform opposite Nathan Lane

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in the world premiere of Taylor Mac's play Gary,

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a sequel to Titus Andronicus. Okay. But she had

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to withdraw from the production shortly before

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it opened because she suffered a significant

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injury. During rehearsal, she actually broke

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four ribs. Four ribs. Wow. That's a stark reminder

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that even in a play, and especially with the

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kind of high energy physicality Martin brings,

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the work is incredibly rigorous and physically

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taxing. It requires dedication way beyond just

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learning your lines. Absolutely. But injuries,

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thankfully, haven't defined her longevity. Her

00:23:05.819 --> 00:23:08.200
commitment to the stage is clearly ongoing. The

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sources confirm her recent appearance just this

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year, 2024, back on Broadway in the Lincoln Center

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production of Ayad Akhtar's new play, McNeil.

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Oh, wow. And she was co -starring alongside Malbert

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Downey Jr. Get out. Okay, so she remains a fixture

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on the most respected stages in the world, constantly

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seeking out new, challenging material. Incredible.

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So let's maybe bring some of the elements of

00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.220
her identity together here. Despite her status

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as this American -born, Tony -winning Broadway

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legend, Martin has always maintained this really

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profound connection to Canada, the country that

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really launched her career. Right. She still

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divides her time, doesn't she, between Los Angeles

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and Toronto? Exactly. And that connection was

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actually formalized relatively recently, after

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living and working in Canada for 47 years, basically,

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since that pivotal move back in 1970. She officially

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became a Canadian citizen in December 2017. Wow.

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47 years later. That's quite a formal acknowledgement.

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of her commitment to and her incredible success

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within the Canadian cultural landscape yeah it

00:24:09.069 --> 00:24:11.650
really is turning to her personal life for a

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moment she was previously married to the writer

00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:18.450
Bob Dolman okay and they have two sons Joe and

00:24:18.450 --> 00:24:21.150
Jack Dolman and here's a really lovely connection

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that kind of circles back to those Godspell origins

00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:27.349
oh yeah through her marriage to Bob Dolman she

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became the sister -in -law of her former Godspell

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and SCTV cast mate Martin Short. No way. Martin

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Short married Bob Dillman's sister, Nancy. So

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that original constellation of stars we talked

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about, they literally became family. That's amazing.

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That integration of professional and personal

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life, you see that often in those tight -knit

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comedy circles, don't you? You really do. It

00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.579
seems fitting, too, that someone who has observed

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and chronicled so much of the entertainment industry

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would eventually document her own past. In 2014,

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she published her memoir. Ah, right. The book,

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which has the wonderfully titled, Andrea Martin's

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lady parts. Right. It really captures the specific

00:25:06.140 --> 00:25:09.039
tone of her career, kind of self -deprecating,

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but insightful and very funny. It gives you a

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unique look into that transition from the improv

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rooms in Toronto to the glamorous, but also really

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demanding world of Broadway and Hollywood. Sounds

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like a must read. And she's received significant

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official acknowledgement in Canada, too, right?

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Oh, yeah. In 2018, she was inducted into Canada's

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Walk of Fame. She joined a pretty legendary list

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of figures that year, including Seth Rogen and

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Leonard Cohen. Wow, that's a steamed company.

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Definitely. And even after, what, half a century

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in the business, she shows absolutely no signs

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of slowing down. She continues to tour with her

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one -woman show, Andrea Martin. Final days, everything

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must go. Still touring. Yep. with musical director

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Seth Rudetsky. It just demonstrates that she

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maintains that essential direct connection with

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her audience, constantly refreshing her material

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and honing her performance skills. It's just

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a career built on this foundation of profound

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adaptability and really a refusal to be defined

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by any single medium or character. Hashtag, hashtag,

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outro. So if we try to synthesize everything

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we've kind of pulled from the source material

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here, the story of Andrea Martin. really feels

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like a definitive blueprint for artistic success.

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And it's success built squarely on versatility

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and just relentless technical execution. Yeah,

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she is a master of the pivot. It's incredible.

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Moving from the highly collaborative, sometimes

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chaotic energy of ensemble sketch comedy, where

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she had to invent and write her own characters

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on SCTV. Right, creating from scratch. To the

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high pressure, globally exposed world of blockbuster

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cinema, where she delivered this universally

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recognizable character in Aunt Vula, clearly

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tapping into her earliest observational skills

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and cultural influences. And then. maybe most

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astonishingly, pivoting again into the hyper

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-precise, award -winning realm of dramatic and

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musical stage work. Setting a record on Broadway,

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a seemingly unbeatable record for Tony nominations

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in the Featured Actress in a Musical category.

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It's just... Very few performers could even claim

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success, let alone high level award winning success

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across such distinct artistic mediums. It proves

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she's fundamentally a master technician of performance.

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Yeah. Her career really feels like a testament

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that true longevity in this business comes not

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necessarily from just chasing the spotlight,

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but from consistently delivering exquisite craftsmanship.

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Yeah. Whether you're improvising a scene about

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cut rate furniture. Right. Or performing acrobatics

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while singing perfectly on a Broadway stage eight

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times a week. That dedication to the craft. Yeah.

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And that leads us nicely to our final provocative

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thought for you, the listener. Andrea Martin

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holds the record for nominations specifically

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in the featured actress category, the supporting

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role. I'll have to. Support. So that invites

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us to really consider what specific quality,

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maybe beyond just raw talent, allows a performer

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to consistently excel in that supporting capacity

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to maintain that. level of critical relevance

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and acclaim for five decades. Yeah, it's a great

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question. She consistently proved she was the

00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.339
secret weapon, right? Yeah. The person you could

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drop into almost any environment from a low budget

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Canadian slasher film to a Star Trek episode

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to a huge Tony winning musical. And she would

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instantly elevate the entire production. So we

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invite you to maybe reflect on the difference

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between being, say, a temporary star, maybe defined

00:28:26.339 --> 00:28:29.500
by one or two big lead roles and being a dedicated,

00:28:29.619 --> 00:28:31.869
indispensable master craftsman, which. Andre

00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:35.130
Martin fundamentally undoubtedly is. A true artist's

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artist. Absolutely. Truly inspiring figure and

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just a phenomenal deep dive into the craft of

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performance itself. That has been the deep dive.

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We hope you enjoyed this look into the remarkable

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career of Andre Martin.
