WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.000 Welcome to the deep dive, the place where we 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:04.440 take the stacks of sources you send us and distill 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:07.459 them down to the essential, fascinating, and 00:00:07.459 --> 00:00:10.240 often surprising truth. Glad to be diving in. 00:00:10.660 --> 00:00:13.080 Today we are profiling a man whose career trajectory 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:17.420 is, well, it feels like two conflicting identities 00:00:17.420 --> 00:00:21.000 wrapped up in one very nervous, often deadpan 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:24.809 comedic package. David Foley. That duality is 00:00:24.809 --> 00:00:26.429 not just an interesting fact. It's really the 00:00:26.429 --> 00:00:29.089 engine of his entire career story. It's fascinating. 00:00:29.289 --> 00:00:31.809 How so? Well, on one hand, you have the architect 00:00:31.809 --> 00:00:36.670 of this anarchic, gender -bending, truly strange 00:00:36.670 --> 00:00:39.670 sketch comedy, a foundational member of the kids 00:00:39.670 --> 00:00:41.390 in the hall. Right, the groundbreaking stuff. 00:00:41.609 --> 00:00:43.530 Exactly. But then on the other hand, you have 00:00:43.530 --> 00:00:45.689 the deadpan, traditionally successful network 00:00:45.689 --> 00:00:48.770 station manager Dave Nelson from the iconic sitcom 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:50.710 news radio. Two completely different worlds, 00:00:50.850 --> 00:00:53.359 almost. Pretty much. So our mission today is 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.979 to track that incredible journey, examining how 00:00:55.979 --> 00:00:58.420 a high school dropout from Toby Coke, Ontario 00:00:58.420 --> 00:01:00.759 became a talent versatile enough to move from 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.159 playing, say, a sassy Sizzler sister. Which was 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.620 brilliant. To a dramatic lead in the recent season 00:01:07.620 --> 00:01:10.939 of Fargo. It's quite a leap. That span from bizarre 00:01:10.939 --> 00:01:14.319 sketch work to critically acclaimed drama is 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.030 extraordinary. Okay, let's unpack this and maybe 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:18.950 anchor ourselves in the origins first sounds 00:01:18.950 --> 00:01:22.049 good Dave Foley was born on January 4th 1963 00:01:22.049 --> 00:01:25.450 in Etobicoke and it's an interesting contrast 00:01:25.450 --> 00:01:27.950 when you look at his background Yeah, his mother 00:01:27.950 --> 00:01:31.030 Mary came from Stafford, England and his father 00:01:31.030 --> 00:01:34.939 Michael was a steam fitter OK, so a pretty standard 00:01:34.939 --> 00:01:36.799 working class background. Exactly. It's a blue 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.459 collar, solidly Ontario upbringing that gives 00:01:39.459 --> 00:01:42.980 absolutely no surface hint of the surreal, often 00:01:42.980 --> 00:01:45.540 frantic genius that would eventually define his 00:01:45.540 --> 00:01:47.340 comedic persona. You just wouldn't predict it. 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.140 No, not at all. It makes the start of his career 00:01:50.140 --> 00:01:52.799 even more interesting. So the first crucial phase 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.959 of his professional life is really all about 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.519 finding his medium, his voice. He dropped out 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.840 of high school relatively early. Which is a key 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.829 detail, right? Yeah. suggests he wasn't aiming 00:02:01.829 --> 00:02:04.030 for a conventional path. Definitely not. He actually 00:02:04.030 --> 00:02:06.290 started in stand -up comedy first. He pursued 00:02:06.290 --> 00:02:08.349 that solo path for about a year, maybe a little 00:02:08.349 --> 00:02:12.590 less. Stand -up. Hmm. But he quickly transitioned, 00:02:12.729 --> 00:02:15.150 didn't he? He did. And that transition, well, 00:02:15.349 --> 00:02:17.509 it proved to be probably the single most important 00:02:17.509 --> 00:02:19.930 decision of his life. OK. What was it? He started 00:02:19.930 --> 00:02:22.590 taking improvisational classes at the Toronto 00:02:22.590 --> 00:02:25.069 Second City Training Center. Ah, Second City. 00:02:25.330 --> 00:02:28.030 The launching pad for so many greats. Exactly. 00:02:28.569 --> 00:02:32.389 That move. placed him directly in the epicenter 00:02:32.389 --> 00:02:35.689 of this burgeoning Canadian comedy scene. It 00:02:35.689 --> 00:02:37.389 was the place to be. And that's where the magic 00:02:37.389 --> 00:02:39.270 happens, I guess, the connections. And that's 00:02:39.270 --> 00:02:41.310 where the synergy truly begins. It wasn't just 00:02:41.310 --> 00:02:43.310 the formal training, though, that helped. It 00:02:43.310 --> 00:02:46.050 was the connections. He met Kevin McDonald there. 00:02:46.129 --> 00:02:48.550 His longtime collaborator. Right. Who became 00:02:48.550 --> 00:02:51.969 his artistic partner for decades. McDonald actually 00:02:51.969 --> 00:02:54.629 gave him a job as an usher at a local art house 00:02:54.629 --> 00:02:56.889 theater. An usher, okay. Yeah. So it established 00:02:56.889 --> 00:02:59.689 that foundational bond outside of the structured 00:02:59.689 --> 00:03:02.270 classroom environment. You could almost say the 00:03:02.270 --> 00:03:04.870 infrastructure for the kids in the hall was literally 00:03:04.870 --> 00:03:08.289 built in improv classes and, well, local theater 00:03:08.289 --> 00:03:11.710 aisles. I like that. So those bonds, they solidified 00:03:11.710 --> 00:03:14.150 pretty quickly then. Very quickly, leading to 00:03:14.150 --> 00:03:16.849 the legendary formation of the troupe in 1984. 00:03:17.289 --> 00:03:19.949 So that's Foley, Kevin McDonald, Bruce McCulloch. 00:03:20.129 --> 00:03:22.729 Mark McKinney and Scott Thompson, a five -person 00:03:22.729 --> 00:03:25.509 collective that just, you know, rejected typical 00:03:25.509 --> 00:03:27.629 sketch formulas. They weren't doing mother -in 00:03:27.629 --> 00:03:30.110 -law jokes. No, definitely not. And they honed 00:03:30.110 --> 00:03:32.550 their act live for a while first. They spent 00:03:32.550 --> 00:03:35.650 four years developing their material live before 00:03:35.650 --> 00:03:40.370 their eponymous TV sketch series debuted in 1988. 00:03:40.590 --> 00:03:44.280 And that ran until 95. Yep, 109 boundary -pushing 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.199 episodes until 1995. Truly unique television. 00:03:47.659 --> 00:03:49.919 When we talk about Foley's current ability to 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.659 handle dramatic work like Fargo, I guess we have 00:03:52.659 --> 00:03:54.300 to look back at the demands of Keith, right? 00:03:54.849 --> 00:03:57.090 Absolutely. He wasn't just telling jokes. He 00:03:57.090 --> 00:04:00.750 was embodying complex, often deeply felt characters 00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:03.530 that were designed to subvert norms. His versatility 00:04:03.530 --> 00:04:05.930 was the linchpin. It really had to be. You really 00:04:05.930 --> 00:04:08.069 see the sheer range in the characters he played. 00:04:08.370 --> 00:04:11.210 Take Hecubus for example. Oh yeah, Hecubus. Demonic, 00:04:11.349 --> 00:04:14.169 heavily eyeshadowed, totally theatrical. Or think 00:04:14.169 --> 00:04:16.250 about the Sizzler Sisters. One of the Sizzler 00:04:16.250 --> 00:04:19.670 Sisters. Aggressively cheerful and slightly menacing. 00:04:19.769 --> 00:04:22.329 And that was such a brilliant exercise in gender 00:04:22.329 --> 00:04:24.129 subversion, wasn't it? Yeah. There were women 00:04:24.129 --> 00:04:27.110 who dressed and behaved exactly like men, just 00:04:27.110 --> 00:04:30.199 with much better wigs and makeup. That's the 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.540 key. Keith wasn't about quick laughs all the 00:04:32.540 --> 00:04:34.759 time. It felt more like performance art disguised 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:36.680 as comedy. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 00:04:36.779 --> 00:04:39.199 And he had a real knack for embodying authority 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.399 figures who were slightly unhinged, yet completely 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:44.540 committed to their unhinged reality. Like the 00:04:44.540 --> 00:04:47.680 E .T. and love boss. Exactly. That character 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.060 consumed by corporate anxiety or the swaggering 00:04:51.060 --> 00:04:54.259 bizarre Bruno Puntz Jones. Bruno Puntz Jones. 00:04:54.259 --> 00:04:56.500 Wow. And then you have the weirder, more subtle 00:04:56.500 --> 00:04:59.980 concepts like Mr. Heavyfoot. or heavy foot where 00:04:59.980 --> 00:05:02.899 the joke is just his feet are heavy. Yeah. A 00:05:02.899 --> 00:05:05.399 character whose main trait was having disproportionately 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:08.839 heavy feet. Or the paired slightly affected characters 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.160 of Jocelyn and Lex. Right. So within this format 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.040 fully proved he could be manic, sweet, bizarre, 00:05:15.300 --> 00:05:17.120 or the straight man. Sometimes all within like 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.060 a three minute sketch. That intense character 00:05:20.060 --> 00:05:23.899 driven work. It was essentially his version of 00:05:23.899 --> 00:05:25.879 a dramatic acting school, wasn't it? You could 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:27.839 definitely say that. It laid the groundwork. 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:30.879 But this is where it gets critical for understanding 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.740 his professional path. The pressure cooker of 00:05:33.740 --> 00:05:36.740 the Kids in the Hall eventually, well, it kind 00:05:36.740 --> 00:05:38.519 of shattered. Right, leading to the conflict 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.560 over their 1996 feature film, Kids in the Hall, 00:05:41.819 --> 00:05:45.360 Brain Candy. And this schism, this break, became 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.120 the accidental catalyst for his next career chapter. 00:05:48.740 --> 00:05:51.360 It pushed him out of the nest, so to speak. That 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.160 film, it sounds like it was a really painful 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.399 process for them. Foley was initially involved, 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:58.899 but the sources say he abruptly left the writing 00:05:58.899 --> 00:06:02.189 process. Why was that? Well, he cited intense 00:06:02.189 --> 00:06:04.589 dissatisfaction with the script quality, for 00:06:04.589 --> 00:06:07.649 one. But crucially, it was also the internal 00:06:07.649 --> 00:06:09.930 strife that had apparently consumed the troupe 00:06:09.930 --> 00:06:12.550 dynamics by that point. So real tension. Yeah, 00:06:12.709 --> 00:06:15.470 it sounds like a genuine, painful split over 00:06:15.470 --> 00:06:17.550 artistic control and creative direction. They 00:06:17.550 --> 00:06:19.370 just weren't on the same page anymore. And the 00:06:19.370 --> 00:06:23.649 drama intensified with this, like, bizarre contractual 00:06:23.649 --> 00:06:26.560 gamble he took. It really did. In an attempt 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.060 to secure some benefit for his friends, even 00:06:29.060 --> 00:06:31.519 though he was leaving the writing side, Foley 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.680 signed a deal that allowed the rest of the troupe 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.540 to be paid for the script development, but he 00:06:37.540 --> 00:06:40.519 did it operating under the deeply cynical belief 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.620 that the film would never actually get greenlit 00:06:43.620 --> 00:06:45.819 or shot. He said it was dead in the water. Pretty 00:06:45.819 --> 00:06:47.920 much. He was trying to do them a favor, maybe, 00:06:48.139 --> 00:06:50.180 while assuming the project itself was doomed. 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.459 But of course, the universe loves irony. The 00:06:52.459 --> 00:06:55.740 film was greenlit. Exactly. and Foley found himself 00:06:55.740 --> 00:06:58.839 contractually obligated to appear in it despite 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:01.480 his deep artistic resentment and the fact that 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.459 he hadn't contributed a single line to the final 00:07:04.459 --> 00:07:07.279 version. Wow. So he had to act in a movie he 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.980 fundamentally disagreed with. Yep. And this specific 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:12.500 detail is a testament to the conflict and his 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:15.920 complicated loyalty. Dave Foley is the only member 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.920 of the founding group who is uncredited as a 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.620 writer on Brain Candy. Uncredited as a writer. 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.620 That says a lot. It does. He was present physically, 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.160 but professionally and artistically distant. 00:07:27.620 --> 00:07:30.180 It really solidified his need to find a career 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:32.860 path outside of the troops dynamics at that moment. 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.459 Yet despite that decade of tension, they did 00:07:36.459 --> 00:07:38.779 get back together eventually. They did. The artistic 00:07:38.779 --> 00:07:41.139 bonds proved too strong to sever permanently. 00:07:41.370 --> 00:07:44.050 He rejoined the troupe in 2000 for live work 00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:46.610 and was fully integral to subsequent projects. 00:07:46.889 --> 00:07:49.389 Like the 2010 reunion miniseries, Death Comes 00:07:49.389 --> 00:07:52.550 to Town. Right. And the highly anticipated 2022 00:07:52.550 --> 00:07:55.930 TV series continuation on Amazon Prime. So it 00:07:55.930 --> 00:07:58.610 shows that even after profound professional trauma, 00:07:59.389 --> 00:08:01.829 that original artistic identity was never truly 00:08:01.829 --> 00:08:04.959 abandoned, just. maybe put on hold or augmented? 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:08.000 Exactly. It evolved. Hashtag tag to sitcom success 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.399 and character driven roles. So the brain candy 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.240 debacle, as painful as it sounds, it kind of 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.779 provided Foley with the perfect, albeit slightly 00:08:15.779 --> 00:08:18.120 rough escape hatch. Pushing him directly toward 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.079 his second defining career chapter. Mainstream 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:23.399 network success with news radio. Right. And this 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.060 wasn't just a pivot. You could almost call it 00:08:25.060 --> 00:08:27.899 a rescue mission. Paul Sims, the creator of News 00:08:27.899 --> 00:08:30.920 Radio, was an enormous fan of Foley's k -i -th 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.360 work, especially that strange, detached, intellectual 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.039 undercurrent of his comedy. Uh, okay, he got 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.639 it. He totally got it. And he wrote the role 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.500 of station manager Dave Nelson specifically for 00:08:42.500 --> 00:08:45.850 him. Wow, tailor -made. That space volumes about 00:08:45.850 --> 00:08:47.990 the respect he commanded in the industry, even 00:08:47.990 --> 00:08:50.070 coming off the Cahithe conflict. Absolutely. 00:08:50.190 --> 00:08:52.570 That his next major role was custom -built for 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:54.990 him is pretty significant. And the beauty of 00:08:54.990 --> 00:08:57.809 Dave Nelson over the, what, 97 episodes from 00:08:57.809 --> 00:09:00.769 95 to 99? Was how much the character was fundamentally 00:09:00.769 --> 00:09:04.509 based on Foley's actual quirks. It was this fascinating 00:09:04.509 --> 00:09:08.169 merging of actor and role. So the show mined 00:09:08.169 --> 00:09:10.809 his real personality. Pretty much. His genuine, 00:09:11.169 --> 00:09:13.350 documented, intense coffee addiction. Coffee. 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.240 confessed almost obsessional love for the classic 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.620 1960s sitcom Green Acres. Green Acres? Yeah. 00:09:19.899 --> 00:09:21.860 Seriously. That's amazing. It's such a brilliant 00:09:21.860 --> 00:09:24.659 example of using the actor's DNA to flesh out 00:09:24.659 --> 00:09:27.299 the character. Totally. His relentless need for 00:09:27.299 --> 00:09:29.700 caffeine was so central to his persona that the 00:09:29.700 --> 00:09:32.679 writers devoted an entire episode to it. Right. 00:09:33.299 --> 00:09:36.210 Season two, episode three, called Smoking. where 00:09:36.210 --> 00:09:38.110 the staff tries to help him manage his addiction. 00:09:38.610 --> 00:09:40.950 He wasn't just playing a role. He was playing 00:09:40.950 --> 00:09:43.210 this carefully curated version of his straight 00:09:43.210 --> 00:09:46.250 man self. Exactly. Which, in a way, is just as 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:49.529 much of a performance. True. So after the sustained 00:09:49.529 --> 00:09:52.950 rhythmic workload of network sitcoms, Foley then 00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:56.549 made a major shift that tested his quieter side, 00:09:56.610 --> 00:09:59.139 I guess. His voice. Yeah, into voice acting and 00:09:59.139 --> 00:10:01.759 family films. This is an area where his lack 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.740 of aggressive ego maybe allowed him to shine. 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:06.580 Starting with a pretty huge one, right? Oh yeah. 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:09.179 Notably as the lead voice of Flick, the nervous 00:10:09.179 --> 00:10:13.000 inventor Ant, in Pixar's 1998 smash hit, A Bug's 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.519 Life. Flick is definitely the anchor of his voice 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.240 portfolio. And that character has shown remarkable 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:21.049 longevity. He keeps popping up. Foley reprised 00:10:21.049 --> 00:10:23.330 the voice for unexpected cameo appearances, like 00:10:23.330 --> 00:10:25.549 in the hysterical outtakes of Toy Story 2. Those 00:10:25.549 --> 00:10:27.870 were great. And the brief epilogue of cars. You 00:10:27.870 --> 00:10:30.070 even hear him in specialized media, like a segment 00:10:30.070 --> 00:10:32.690 of Robot Chicken and the game Lego, The Incredibles. 00:10:32.990 --> 00:10:35.909 Flick lives on. He does. But the sources show 00:10:35.909 --> 00:10:39.070 his voice portfolio expanded rapidly beyond just 00:10:39.070 --> 00:10:41.710 the family sphere. Oh, absolutely. Consider the 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:45.269 complete contrast. He voiced the synthetic intelligence 00:10:45.269 --> 00:10:49.070 Yes Man in the massive 2010 video game Fallout. 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.440 New Vegas. Yes, man. That's such a different 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:55.379 vibe. Totally different. This character is a 00:10:55.379 --> 00:10:58.320 detached, highly enthusiastic, yet non -human 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.179 AI that perfectly utilizes Foley's slightly nervous, 00:11:02.460 --> 00:11:05.340 eager to please, yet fundamentally kind of cold 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:08.399 delivery style. That ability to sound both earnest 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.259 and totally detached. That's kind of his trademark, 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.940 isn't it? It really is. He was also Terry, the 00:11:12.940 --> 00:11:15.320 highly anxious two -headed monster in Monsters 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.200 University in 2013. And Terry Perry. He was Terry. 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.830 Yep. And the highly disgruntled Elf Wayne in 00:11:20.830 --> 00:11:22.710 the Holiday Special series, Prep and Landing, 00:11:22.870 --> 00:11:24.590 remember those? Oh yeah, those were cute. Ran 00:11:24.590 --> 00:11:27.629 from 2009 to 2011. And he took on a key main 00:11:27.629 --> 00:11:29.970 role as the highly stressed Chris in the animated 00:11:29.970 --> 00:11:33.950 series Danvice from 2011 to 2013. Wow. The range 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:36.190 there is truly impressive. You've got high budget 00:11:36.190 --> 00:11:39.409 Pixar, cult video games, Holiday Specials, adult 00:11:39.409 --> 00:11:41.450 animation. He really covers the map and voice 00:11:41.450 --> 00:11:44.190 work. And outside of animation, he continued 00:11:44.190 --> 00:11:46.889 to leverage that trademark nervous energy in 00:11:46.889 --> 00:11:49.649 future films throughout the late 90s and 2000s. 00:11:49.909 --> 00:11:52.730 Right. One role where he actually returned to 00:11:52.730 --> 00:11:56.669 his writing roots was 1997's The Wrong Guy. Ah, 00:11:56.669 --> 00:11:59.769 yes. The Wrong Guy. He starred as Nelson Hibbard, 00:12:00.149 --> 00:12:02.490 this office worker who misinterprets a crime 00:12:02.490 --> 00:12:04.210 scene. Thinks he's going to get blamed for his 00:12:04.210 --> 00:12:06.730 boss's murder. Exactly. And runs off to live 00:12:06.730 --> 00:12:09.950 as a fugitive. But critically, Foley co -wrote 00:12:09.950 --> 00:12:12.389 the screenplay. for the wrong guy. That's important. 00:12:12.769 --> 00:12:15.149 It proves that the artistic ambition that fueled 00:12:15.149 --> 00:12:17.549 Keith was still there, just maybe applied to 00:12:17.549 --> 00:12:19.750 a more traditional narrative structure this time. 00:12:19.970 --> 00:12:22.169 He wasn't just an actor for hire. Good point. 00:12:22.570 --> 00:12:24.970 And he secured supporting roles in some pretty 00:12:24.970 --> 00:12:27.350 widely seen studio productions, too. Definitely 00:12:27.350 --> 00:12:30.309 like 1999's Blast from the Past, where he played 00:12:30.309 --> 00:12:33.480 Troy, Eve's housemate. Brendan Fraser or Alicia 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:36.700 Silverstone? Yeah, fun movie. And in 2005 superhero 00:12:36.700 --> 00:12:39.879 comedy Sky High, he was Jonathan Boy, or the 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.080 All -American Boy. All -American Boy, the sidekick. 00:12:42.340 --> 00:12:44.200 These roles placed him squarely in the realm 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.440 of the highly recognizable character actor. You 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:47.879 see him pop up, you're like, oh, it's that guy. 00:12:48.340 --> 00:12:52.600 Exactly. But we absolutely must address the elephant 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.340 in the filmography. Uh -oh. Which one is this? 00:12:54.830 --> 00:12:58.429 the deeply bizarre and, let's just say, controversial 00:12:58.429 --> 00:13:03.049 2007 film Postal. Postal, oh man, Ooby Bowl. 00:13:03.190 --> 00:13:05.730 The one and only Ooby Bowl's highly divisive 00:13:05.730 --> 00:13:08.809 adaptation of the notorious PC game and fully 00:13:08.809 --> 00:13:11.269 appeared in it as Uncle Dave. Uncle Dave, okay, 00:13:11.370 --> 00:13:13.330 and this is the one where... For listeners keeping 00:13:13.330 --> 00:13:16.350 track of his more adventurous dramatic choices, 00:13:16.529 --> 00:13:19.009 this is the film where he notably appears nude. 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.860 Right. OK. Well, it certainly showcases his willingness 00:13:21.860 --> 00:13:24.860 to take risks, maybe, and jump into projects, 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.759 regardless of how outlandish or critically reviled 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:30.500 they might be. It definitely shows a certain 00:13:30.500 --> 00:13:32.519 lack of pretension about the work itself. Or 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:34.259 maybe he just needed the paycheck sometimes, 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.720 which we'll get into. Fair point. A working actor's 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.740 got to work. Hashtag three. later career versatility 00:13:39.740 --> 00:13:42.120 and surprising appearances. Okay, so as we transition 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.100 into the 2000s and 2010s, Foley really cemented 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:47.960 his status as that go -to recurring guest star. 00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:50.440 Yeah, a reliable presence whose distinct comedic 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.700 timing could just elevate any episode he appeared 00:13:52.700 --> 00:13:55.340 in. You knew you were in good hands. Exactly. 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.019 He even briefly stepped into the hosting chair, 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.240 remember? Leading Bravo's celebrity poker showdown 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.519 back in 2004. Oh, I vaguely remember that. Was 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.159 he any good at poker? I don't know about his 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.500 poker skills, but he hosted it. His real strength, 00:14:09.500 --> 00:14:11.500 though, remained in character work. For sure. 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.919 And he became immediately recognizable to mainstream 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.259 audiences through these great recurring roles, 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.820 like Stuart Lamerac on Will and Grace. Yes. Jack 00:14:20.820 --> 00:14:23.139 McFarland's dry -witted boyfriend. He was great 00:14:23.139 --> 00:14:26.120 in that for five episodes between 2003 and 2004. 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:29.500 That's classic Foley taking a potentially broad 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.860 sitcom -y role and infusing it with that detached, 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.679 slightly world -weary delivery. Perfectly put. 00:14:35.820 --> 00:14:37.799 But one of the most delightful roles in this 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.159 period, I think, has to be Dr. Fulton. On the 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:43.159 middle. Brick's school therapist. Yes. Where 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.100 he appeared periodically from 2012 to 2018. Such 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:48.279 a great character pairing with Brick. And this 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.139 role provided one of the best, like, inside jokes 00:14:51.139 --> 00:14:53.240 or Easter eggs in modern television. Oh, you 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:57.600 mean the... Yes. Dr. Fulton. this quiet, contained 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.519 figure giving advice to the equally unusual Brick 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:04.220 Heck. And in the episode Life Skills, Dr. Fulton 00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:06.320 is advising Brick about his socially awkward 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.460 classmates. Right. And after this perfect awkward 00:15:09.460 --> 00:15:12.419 pause and a knowing glance, the character specifically 00:15:12.419 --> 00:15:15.320 refers to the unusual group of students as the 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.470 kids in the hall. Huh. It's brilliant. A direct, 00:15:18.830 --> 00:15:21.789 explicit, and perfectly timed nod to Foley's 00:15:21.789 --> 00:15:24.450 own comedic legacy embedded right there within 00:15:24.450 --> 00:15:26.750 a Family Network sitcom. It's just Chef's Kiss 00:15:26.750 --> 00:15:29.379 perfect. That moment really encapsulates his 00:15:29.379 --> 00:15:31.360 career beautifully, doesn't it? The constant 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.059 tension between the anarchic past and the comforting 00:15:34.059 --> 00:15:36.580 mainstream present. Totally. He was also a fixture 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:38.899 on Hot in Cleveland. Right. He actually made 00:15:38.899 --> 00:15:41.340 an early, unrelated guest appearance as a charity 00:15:41.340 --> 00:15:43.720 doctor in season one. Oh, I didn't realize that. 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.740 Yeah. But then he came back later as Detective 00:15:45.740 --> 00:15:48.360 Bob Moore, a role he played across the last three 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.139 seasons between 2013 and 2015. So he clearly 00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:53.600 made an impression. Seems like it. And his commitment 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.019 to network stability continued with a main cast 00:15:56.019 --> 00:15:58.750 role as Pat Heine on the ABC sitcom, Dr. Ken 00:15:58.750 --> 00:16:02.460 from 2015 to 2017. With Ken Jeong. Right. He 00:16:02.460 --> 00:16:05.100 remained prolific right up to the present day, 00:16:05.340 --> 00:16:07.539 appearing as Gary O 'Brien for three episodes 00:16:07.539 --> 00:16:10.820 of Young Sheldon between 2021 and 2023. Just 00:16:10.820 --> 00:16:13.820 constantly working. Always working. But the sources 00:16:13.820 --> 00:16:16.120 highlight what might be the most significant 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.799 recent shift in his career. Which is? His main 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.159 role as Danish Graves in the fifth season of 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.659 Fargo in 2023. Fargo. OK, yeah, that's huge. 00:16:23.779 --> 00:16:25.440 And that's more than just a guest spot, right? 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.759 It's a central, major, dramatic character. Exactly. 00:16:28.899 --> 00:16:32.980 Danish Graves. the name alone. Fargo is the ultimate 00:16:32.980 --> 00:16:35.039 signal of a dramatic pivot, isn't it? Oh, yeah. 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.639 And maybe a validation of the core acting skills 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.399 he honed way back playing those highly specific, 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.019 intense, Kaith characters. I think so. Danish 00:16:43.019 --> 00:16:45.919 Graves is this severe, calculating corporate 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.559 lawyer, almost menacing. Wow. To seamlessly move 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.120 from the goofiness of, say, the middle or even 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.480 news radio to anchoring high stakes, critically 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.919 acclaimed, dramatic narratives, that's the definition 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.000 of versatility. It really is. It proves that 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.269 the foundation he built back in 1984 prepared 00:17:01.269 --> 00:17:04.269 him for literally everything, even roles entirely 00:17:04.269 --> 00:17:07.150 devoid of overt comedy. Amazing trajectory. And 00:17:07.150 --> 00:17:09.769 moving beyond traditional formats for a second, 00:17:10.390 --> 00:17:12.670 Foley was also an early adopter of digital media. 00:17:12.750 --> 00:17:15.930 Oh yeah, like what? He starred in the 2009 web 00:17:15.930 --> 00:17:18.650 series The Sensible Traveler with Bobby Fargo. 00:17:19.089 --> 00:17:22.029 It produced six episodes. Bobby Fargo, any relation 00:17:22.029 --> 00:17:25.549 to this? Nah. Probably not. But the series was 00:17:25.549 --> 00:17:27.589 noted for its success right out of the gate. 00:17:27.789 --> 00:17:31.210 It reportedly racked up over 20 ,000 hits by 00:17:31.210 --> 00:17:33.789 early 2010, which was pretty good for a web series 00:17:33.789 --> 00:17:36.829 back then. It showed his enduring appeal even 00:17:36.829 --> 00:17:39.890 in emerging platforms. Interesting. And his music 00:17:39.890 --> 00:17:42.579 video work. That's where the anarchic spirit 00:17:42.579 --> 00:17:44.900 of Kids in the Hall seems to continue to live 00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:47.779 outside of scripted TV. Totally. He appeared 00:17:47.779 --> 00:17:50.579 in numerous videos, often playing these exaggerated 00:17:50.579 --> 00:17:52.980 or strange characters that required that heightened 00:17:52.980 --> 00:17:55.119 performance style. Like the one for Odds. Yeah, 00:17:55.220 --> 00:17:58.180 the 1993 video for Odds, Eterosexual Man. He 00:17:58.180 --> 00:18:00.680 appeared along siloed Kaleith members Mark McKinney 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.089 and Kevin McDonald. Okay. And initially they're 00:18:03.089 --> 00:18:06.450 playing these intensely stereotypical macho jocks, 00:18:06.470 --> 00:18:08.250 a type of character they often mocked on the 00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:12.269 show, the comedic punchline. Foley then inexplicably 00:18:12.269 --> 00:18:15.559 turns into a woman. perfectly capturing the troupe's 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.259 fluid, absurdist approach to gender and identity. 00:18:18.380 --> 00:18:20.240 Classic Keith. He maintained that edge later 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.119 too, right? He did. Appearing in the alternate 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.119 video for Colorado's American Arama in 2008. 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:28.619 What did he do in that one? He gave this really 00:18:28.619 --> 00:18:31.359 pointed parody of the controversial American 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:35.519 Apparel CEO Dov Charney. Ooh, biting. Yeah. And 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:38.019 in 2012, he took a starring role in the punk 00:18:38.019 --> 00:18:41.200 band O .F .F.'s video for Borrow and Bomb. O 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.140 .F .F., okay, cool. Where he played a professional 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.259 educator named Dale Antwerp hosting this very 00:18:46.259 --> 00:18:49.059 awkward public access talk show called Teen Talk. 00:18:49.259 --> 00:18:52.740 Huh. Perfect casting. This commitment to collaborating 00:18:52.740 --> 00:18:54.759 with alternative media figures and musicians 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:57.279 is key, isn't it? It ensures his work remains 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.559 fresh and unexpected. And it proves he hasn't 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:01.799 forgotten his counterculture roots. Even while 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.680 doing network sitcoms or, you know, Fargo, he 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.920 keeps afoot in both worlds. Hashtag tag IV, personal 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.099 life, financial strain, and resilience. Okay, 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:14.130 so To truly appreciate Foley's incredible professional 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.470 longevity and resilience, especially that recent 00:19:17.470 --> 00:19:21.329 successful dramatic pivot into Fargo, we really 00:19:21.329 --> 00:19:22.769 have to look behind the curtain. Yeah, there 00:19:22.769 --> 00:19:25.329 was a period defined by intense personal struggle, 00:19:25.730 --> 00:19:28.089 particularly acute financial strain based on 00:19:28.089 --> 00:19:30.569 the sources. Right. Let's maybe establish the 00:19:30.569 --> 00:19:32.769 marital timeline first, which is marked by both 00:19:32.769 --> 00:19:36.470 separation. and, interestingly, subsequent reconciliation. 00:19:37.309 --> 00:19:40.190 His first marriage was to Canadian writer Tabitha 00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:44.049 Southee from 1991 to 1997. They had two children 00:19:44.049 --> 00:19:46.690 together. His second marriage was to actress 00:19:46.690 --> 00:19:49.890 Chrissy Guerrero from 2002 to 2008, resulting 00:19:49.890 --> 00:19:52.750 in one daughter, Alina Khiara Foley. Who later 00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:54.769 became a child actor herself, right? That's right. 00:19:55.029 --> 00:19:56.849 Now, the interesting pattern of reconciliation 00:19:56.849 --> 00:19:59.150 occurs with his second wife, Chrissy Guerrero. 00:19:59.190 --> 00:20:01.670 They separated, but then? They separated, but 00:20:01.670 --> 00:20:04.190 subsequently reconciled and actually remarried 00:20:04.190 --> 00:20:08.369 on New Year's Eve December 31st 2016. Wow that 00:20:08.369 --> 00:20:11.609 suggests a powerful enduring bond despite whatever 00:20:11.609 --> 00:20:13.730 challenges led to the separation. Good for them. 00:20:14.250 --> 00:20:16.900 Yeah now okay. Turning to the child support crisis, 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:21.400 this had a profound decade -long impact on his 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.660 career choices and even his physical location. 00:20:23.779 --> 00:20:26.880 This is related to his first marriage. Yes. This 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:29.660 crisis began with an interim child support agreement 00:20:29.660 --> 00:20:32.740 issued back in 2001 obligating him to pay his 00:20:32.740 --> 00:20:35.640 first wife, Tabitha Sawathy, a really substantial 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:41.789 sum, $10 ,700 a month. $10 ,700 all. A month? 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:44.349 Yeah. How was that figure determined? Well, that 00:20:44.349 --> 00:20:46.529 figure was based entirely on his high earnings 00:20:46.529 --> 00:20:48.990 during the absolute peak of the news radio years, 00:20:49.410 --> 00:20:51.309 primetime network show money. Okay, but when 00:20:51.309 --> 00:20:54.309 a network show ends... Income fluctuates wildly 00:20:54.309 --> 00:20:56.029 for actors, right? Well, correct. Especially 00:20:56.029 --> 00:20:58.329 back then. Wildly, yet that obligation remains 00:20:58.329 --> 00:21:01.769 static and, well, brutally high. By 2011, he 00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:03.789 publicly claimed his earnings had declined to 00:21:03.789 --> 00:21:07.109 such a degree that the $10 ,700 sum constituted 00:21:07.109 --> 00:21:10.529 literally 400 % of his income. 400%. That's impossible. 00:21:10.950 --> 00:21:13.109 Completely unsustainable. Utterly unsustainable. 00:21:13.109 --> 00:21:15.490 And he was caught in this incredibly rigid legal 00:21:15.490 --> 00:21:18.670 bind. The child support was governed by Ontario's 00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:22.609 Family Responsibility Office, or FRO. And they're 00:21:22.609 --> 00:21:25.170 known for their stringent enforcement mechanisms. 00:21:25.650 --> 00:21:28.569 OK. He was unable to get the obligation retroactively 00:21:28.569 --> 00:21:30.950 reduced in court, meaning the debt just kept 00:21:30.950 --> 00:21:33.849 compounding. Interest, penalties, the works. 00:21:34.029 --> 00:21:37.029 Oh, man. The consequences must have been dire. 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:40.009 They were. He ultimately owed over half a million 00:21:40.009 --> 00:21:43.059 dollars in back payments. Half a million dollars. 00:21:43.259 --> 00:21:45.819 And this debt created a literal professional 00:21:45.819 --> 00:21:49.339 and personal exile for him. Exile? How? He stated 00:21:49.339 --> 00:21:51.920 publicly that he believed returning to Canada, 00:21:52.099 --> 00:21:54.539 his home country, would result in his immediate 00:21:54.539 --> 00:21:57.779 arrest upon entry as ordered by the FRO. He couldn't 00:21:57.779 --> 00:21:59.940 go home because of child support debt. That's 00:21:59.940 --> 00:22:01.900 what he believed, yeah. It was essentially a 00:22:01.900 --> 00:22:04.019 decade of working primarily in the United States 00:22:04.019 --> 00:22:06.559 while effectively banned from his homeland due 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.400 to bureaucratic financial enforcement. Imagine 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.819 that psychological weight. I can't even that's 00:22:11.819 --> 00:22:14.440 unbelievable this financial and legal cloud persisted 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.980 for how long 12 years Okay, until 2013 when the 00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:20.039 lawsuit with Salvi was finally settled. Okay, 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.839 so resolution eventually came It did, allowing 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.980 him to resume work in Canada. But the sheer cost 00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:28.359 of this ordeal is best summarized by his own 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.160 words. What did he say? Regarding his acceptance 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.359 of the lead role in the CTV sitcom, Spun Out, 00:22:34.460 --> 00:22:37.839 which filmed in Canada, he needed the work specifically 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.599 to clear the debt. Right. His, quote, perfectly 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:43.559 encapsulates the situation. I made enough money 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.000 to pay the price of admission to Canada. Wow. 00:22:46.410 --> 00:22:48.529 the price of admission to Canada. That speaks 00:22:48.529 --> 00:22:50.829 volumes about the resilience required to carry 00:22:50.829 --> 00:22:53.329 that kind of debt and professional pressure while 00:22:53.329 --> 00:22:57.769 maintaining a prolific and, you know, outwardly 00:22:57.769 --> 00:23:00.779 cheerful career in comedy. It's staggering, really. 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.259 And beyond the financial strain, Foley has also 00:23:03.259 --> 00:23:05.480 been extremely candid about his longstanding 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.660 severe battle with clinical depression. Right, 00:23:07.740 --> 00:23:09.420 I've read out that. And this is where we encounter 00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:11.920 maybe the most profound and unexpected twist 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.640 in his personal narrative, a dramatic health 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:16.940 scare that actually led to a positive shift in 00:23:16.940 --> 00:23:19.500 his mental health. OK, what happened? He openly 00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:21.519 discussed that he used to drink quite a bit, 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.160 his words, and that he finally stopped drinking 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:27.339 permanently on December 22, 2014 after a really 00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:29.690 severe incident. What was the incident? While 00:23:29.690 --> 00:23:32.190 intoxicated, he fell backward and hit his head. 00:23:32.589 --> 00:23:35.309 Caused a major head injury. Oh no. How bad was 00:23:35.309 --> 00:23:38.650 it? The injury was extremely serious. It was 00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:41.750 diagnosed as a subdural hematoma. Which is bleeding 00:23:41.750 --> 00:23:43.670 around the brain, right? Yeah. Very dangerous. 00:23:43.890 --> 00:23:46.630 Exactly. It's a serious bleed between the tough 00:23:46.630 --> 00:23:48.910 outer layer of the brain and the surface of the 00:23:48.910 --> 00:23:51.829 brain itself, typically caused by trauma. He 00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:53.930 required immediate medical attention and spent 00:23:53.930 --> 00:23:56.930 four days in the intensive care unit. Four days 00:23:56.930 --> 00:23:59.930 in the ICU. That's terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. 00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:03.250 But while traumatic, the long -term mental outcome 00:24:03.250 --> 00:24:06.450 was astonishing and highly unexpected. Really? 00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:09.650 How so? In 2019, so about four years after the 00:24:09.650 --> 00:24:11.990 incident, he reported that he had not had a drink 00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:14.430 since the fall. OK, so sobriety stuck. That's 00:24:14.430 --> 00:24:17.349 great. Yes. But even more profoundly, he reported 00:24:17.349 --> 00:24:19.710 he had experienced almost no depression following 00:24:19.710 --> 00:24:21.789 the injury. Wait, the depression he'd battled 00:24:21.789 --> 00:24:25.410 for years. It just lessened after the head injury. 00:24:25.769 --> 00:24:28.329 Largely resolved, according to him. It suggests 00:24:28.329 --> 00:24:31.920 that this physical trauma somehow reset or altered 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.240 a long -standing chemical or neurological imbalance. 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:38.599 It's a really bizarre, almost unbelievable outcome. 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.539 That's incredible and incredibly strange. Neurologically 00:24:41.539 --> 00:24:43.660 fascinating, I guess. Definitely raises questions. 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.180 Regarding his current life, he maintained residences 00:24:46.180 --> 00:24:48.819 in downtown Los Angeles for years, but the sources 00:24:48.819 --> 00:24:50.920 say he subsequently moved to New York City in 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:55.079 2022. East Coast now. Seems so. And one character 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.140 trait remains immutable from his news radio days. 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:01.329 Let me guess. Coffee. Coffee. His dedication 00:25:01.329 --> 00:25:03.650 to coffee. He still claims to drink up to 50 00:25:03.650 --> 00:25:06.769 cups a day when I am on set. 50? Okay, that might 00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:09.869 be hyperbole, but still. That habit somehow fuels 00:25:09.869 --> 00:25:12.730 his versatility, I guess. Or maybe it just keeps 00:25:12.730 --> 00:25:15.490 him awake. Could be both. Hashtag outro. Wow. 00:25:15.710 --> 00:25:18.410 Okay, so Dave Foley's journey. It really is defined 00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:20.650 by these high contrast demands, isn't it? Yeah. 00:25:20.710 --> 00:25:23.210 He helped co -found one of the most anti -establishment 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.460 and archaic sketch comedy troops in history. 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.900 Truly groundbreaking stuff with calf. Only to 00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:30.380 transition seamlessly into the quiet, deadpan 00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:33.039 competence of a mainstream sitcom lead on news 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.579 radio. A complete pivot, really. And now he maneuvers 00:25:36.579 --> 00:25:40.880 effortlessly between children's voice work, reliable 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:44.319 recurring comedy roles, and these critically 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.579 acclaimed dramatic turns like the severe Danish 00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:50.210 graves in Fargo. His defining professional characteristic 00:25:50.210 --> 00:25:52.650 is that ability to be entirely different things 00:25:52.650 --> 00:25:55.829 at once. It's like the chaotic, manic energy 00:25:55.829 --> 00:25:59.049 of a character actor is hidden just beneath the 00:25:59.049 --> 00:26:01.670 highly capable, unassuming suit of the straight 00:26:01.670 --> 00:26:04.109 man. That's a great way to put it. And understanding 00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:07.250 his intense personal struggles, that decade -long 00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:10.269 financial crisis that literally enforced a professional 00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:12.569 exile from his home country. And his sobriety 00:26:12.569 --> 00:26:15.069 journey tied into that serious head injury. Right. 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.579 That's essential context. He maintained his professional 00:26:17.579 --> 00:26:19.839 output because he literally had to keep working, 00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:22.559 didn't he? To pay the price, as he put it, of 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.559 his own freedom and admission back home. The 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.299 resilience is just incredible when you know the 00:26:26.299 --> 00:26:29.119 backstory. But the final most profound thought 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.039 we are left with, it has to be that unexpected 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.640 neurological connection forged in crisis. Yeah, 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.960 the head injury story is wild. He suffered a 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.740 severe physical trauma, the subdural hematoma. 00:26:39.869 --> 00:26:42.869 afterward reported that the persistent chronic 00:26:42.869 --> 00:26:45.009 depression that plagued him for years has largely 00:26:45.009 --> 00:26:48.410 resolved. What does that truly suggest? Not just 00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:50.609 about Dave Foley's unique recovery but about 00:26:50.609 --> 00:26:54.390 this still unknown interplay between acute physical 00:26:54.390 --> 00:26:57.069 injury and lifelong mental health challenges. 00:26:57.450 --> 00:27:00.690 It's baffling. It suggests maybe a lifetime of 00:27:00.690 --> 00:27:03.049 underlying neurological pressure or imbalance 00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:06.640 that was completely counter -intuitively released 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.140 or corrected through a traumatic physical event. 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.559 It absolutely reframes how we perceive the high 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:16.059 -energy, often frantic comic persona he has embodied 00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:18.220 for decades. Yeah, you wonder what was going 00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:20.380 on underneath all along. The laughter often hides 00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:22.400 the cost, doesn't it? It really does. That knowledge, 00:27:22.619 --> 00:27:25.559 that self -discovery sometimes comes at an unimaginable 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.920 physical cost. Well, that's certainly something 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.160 for you to maul until the next deep dive. Thanks 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.240 for joining us. Thanks for having me. Fascinating 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:32.539 subject.