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Have you ever come across a historical figure

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who just seems like a total contradiction, like

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a walking paradox? Oh, absolutely. It happens

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more often than you'd think, especially in politics.

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Right. So picture this. A man everyone says is

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charming, really popular, a successful lawyer,

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even becomes a brigadier general, a war hero.

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It sounds impressive, got all the credentials,

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seemingly. Exactly. But then you look at the

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history books, the rankings, and he's almost

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Always listed as one of the worst or at least

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least memorable presidents the US has ever had

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Wow. Yeah, that is quite a disconnect How does

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someone with that kind of personal appeal end

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up with such a well such a negative historical

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judgment? That's the million -dollar question,

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isn't it? And it really highlights how the pressures

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of the presidency especially during a really

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volatile time can just break someone or expose

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flaws that weren't obvious before. It does. Personal

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charm doesn't always equal effective leadership,

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especially when a nation is tearing itself apart.

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Precisely. And that's exactly what we want to

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explore today. We're doing a deep dive into the

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life and incredibly turbulent presidency of Franklin

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Pierce. He was the 14th president, serving from

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1853 to 1857. Right. And that incredibly tense

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lead up to the Civil War. Exactly. So our goal

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here is to unpack the complexities of Pierce's

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story. We'll look at his personal struggles,

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which were frankly immense. We'll examine his

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political ideas and crucially, the huge national

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events he was trying to handle or maybe fail

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to handle. Events that really pushed the country

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closer and closer to war. No doubt. By the end

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of this, you should have a much more nuanced

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picture of this often overlooked president whose

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decisions, for better or worse, had massive consequences

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for where the nation was headed. And to do that,

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we've gathered quite a range of sources. We've

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got biographical accounts, historical analyses.

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We've even looked into his personal letters to

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try and get a sense of the man himself. Yeah,

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trying to get beyond just the official portrait,

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you know, understand his motivations, the pressures

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he was under. It was an incredibly challenging

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time, so... Where do we start? His early life.

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Let's do that. Let's go back to the beginning.

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Franklin Pierce was born November 23, 1804. And

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get this in a log cabin. Hillsboro, New Hampshire.

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Humble beginnings then. Very much so. He was

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the fifth of eight kids. His father, Benjamin

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Pierce, was a pretty significant figure, fought

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in the Revolutionary War, later became governor

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of New Hampshire. His mother was Anna Kendrick.

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So politics and military life were in his blood,

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essentially. Absolutely. It wasn't just background

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noise. It was the family business, in a way.

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His dad was deep into state politics. His older

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brothers fought in the War of 1812. Duty. military

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tradition that was baked in from the start. You

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can see how that might shape someone. Definitely.

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And there's this one story from when he was 12

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that he himself called the turning point in my

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life. Oh, do tell. Yeah. OK. So apparently he

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got really homesick at school. So homesick, he

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walked 12 miles back home one Sunday. 12 mile.

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Wow. OK. So he gets home expecting maybe some

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sympathy. Nope. His dad feeds him dinner, drives

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him part way back to school, and then makes him

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walk the rest of the way by himself in a thunderstorm.

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Whoa. That's... intense parenting, character

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building, I suppose, in the extreme. Right. It

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makes you wonder, you know, did that build resilience

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or did it teach him a certain kind of obedience?

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Maybe it's a stark image. It really is. It speaks

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volumes about the kind of tough, almost unforgiving

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environment he grew up in. Not a lot of coddling

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there. Seems like it. And that drive, that toughness,

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whether it was innate or instilled, it definitely

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seems to have propelled him forward. So after

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that turning point, where did he go next? College.

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Yep. Bowdoin College in Maine started in 1820.

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But interestingly, he wasn't exactly a star student

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right away. No. You'd think with that background.

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Well, he actually hit rock bottom academically.

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Dead last in his class after two years. Really?

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Last? OK, that's surprising. But he turned it

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around, buckled down, focused, and ended up graduating

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fifth in his class in 1824. Quite a comeback.

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That shows some grit. Definitely. And Bowdoin

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was important for connections, too. He became

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really good friends with Nathaniel Hawthorne.

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Yes, that Nathaniel Hawthorne. The author. Wow.

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OK. Yep. Hawthorne later became his biographer,

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also became close with Jonathan Silly, another

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future politician. And John P. Hale was there,

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too. Started as an ally, later became a major

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political rival. So key relationships formed

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early on. For sure. And he wasn't just hit in

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the books. He showed that leadership streak again,

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organized and led this unofficial student militia,

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the Bodoing cadets. A militia in college? Yeah,

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apparently they drilled on campus, the college

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president wasn't thrilled, tried to shut them

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down, and it led to a student strike. Pierce

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was even suspected of being one of the ringleaders.

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Huh. So a bit of a rebel, too. Charismatic, maybe

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not the most studious at first, but definitely

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a leader. That seems to be the picture. Classmates

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remembered his social skills more than his grades.

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That charisma, that hint of rebellion, plus the

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interest in military stuff. You can see the seeds

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of his future career there. It sets the stage

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nicely. So after Bowdoin Law School. He studied

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law, yeah. Got admitted to the New Hampshire

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Bar in late 1827. Apparently he lost his very

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first case, which must have stung. Ouch. Not

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a great start. But he recovered quickly, became

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known for having a great memory. especially for

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names and faces, which is always useful in law

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and politics. Plus that charm and a deep voice

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that commanded attention. And he apparently did

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a fair bit of pro bono work, representing the

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poor. He did, which, you know, certainly didn't

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hurt his popularity. And he jumped into politics

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almost immediately. Shouldn't waste any time.

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Nope. Became Hillsborough's town meeting moderator

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in 1828, got reelected five times, then into

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the New Hampshire House of Representatives. And

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get this. By 1831, he's the Speaker of the House

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at age 27. 27. That's incredibly young to be

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speaker. He must have made connections fast.

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He clearly had talent for the political game.

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He used that position to push the Democratic

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agenda, opposed expanding banks, defended the

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state militia, supported Andrew Jackson nationally.

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So a rapid rise fueled by charisma and political

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skill. The militia interest keeps popping up,

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too. It does. It seems like a consistent thread.

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But even then, his letters apparently show him

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kind of lamenting being single, wishing for a

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life outside of politics. That tension was there

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early on. Hmm. That desire for a different kind

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of life becomes really important when we look

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at his marriage, doesn't it? Absolutely. Tell

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us about Jane Appleton. Right. So he marries

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Jane Means Appleton in 1834, and she was, in

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many ways, his complete opposite. described as

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pious, very reserved, deeply religious, strong

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temperance supporter. So not exactly the life

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of the political party. Not at all. And she suffered

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from chronic health problems, likely tuberculosis,

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maybe psychological issues, too. And she hated

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politics. Losed Washington, DC. Oh, boy. That

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sounds like a recipe for attention. Constant

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tension, it seems. His ambition versus her desire

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for a quiet, private life. But the real tragedy,

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the thing that just hangs over everything, is

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what happened to their children. Yeah, this is

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incredibly sad. They had three sons. Franklin

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Jr. died just days after birth. Awful. Then their

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second son, Frank Robert, died at age four from

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typhus. Oh my goodness. Two children lost. And

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then Benjamin, their last surviving son. He was

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11 years old. Just weeks before Pierce's inauguration,

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the family was on a train. The Andover train

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accident. I've read about this. It's horrifying.

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It is. The train car derailed, rolled down an

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embankment. Benjamin was killed instantly. Crushed.

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Apparently it was a horrific scene, and Pierce

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couldn't shield Jane from seeing it. I can't

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even begin to imagine. Losing one child is devastating.

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But all three. And the last one in such a traumatic

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way, right before becoming president. Exactly.

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And you have to ask... How could that not profoundly

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affect him? His judgment, his emotional state,

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his ability to lead? Jane was plunged into deep

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depression, reportedly believing it was God's

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punishment for Franklin pursuing the presidency.

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That's just soul -crushing. It puts his entire

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presidency in a different light, doesn't it?

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Starting under such a dark shadow. An almost

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unbearable shadow. And it certainly colored his

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time in national politics even before the presidency.

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Right. Let's talk about his time in Congress.

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He served in the House, then the Senate. through

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the 1830s and early 40s. Still a loyal Jacksonian

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Democrat. Very much so. Oppose the National Bank,

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oppose federal money for things like canals and

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roads, saw it as federal overreach, state's rights

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infringement, standard democratic positions back

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then. OK, but the big issue, the one that was

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starting to dominate everything, was slavery.

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Where did he stand then? This is where it gets

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really complicated and crucial. Personally, he

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seems to have disliked slavery. He wrote things

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like, I consider slavery a social and political

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evil, and most sincerely wished that it had no

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existence. So morally opposed them? Morally opposed,

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yes, but politically. He saw the abolitionist

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movement as the biggest threat to keeping the

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union together. He thought their agitation, as

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he called it, had to be stopped or the country

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would break apart. The classic conflict, personal

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morals versus perceived political necessity or

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union preservation. Exactly. He believed federal

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action against slavery violated states' rights.

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He even supported the gag rule in the House,

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which basically prevented any debate on anti

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-slavery petitions. So receive the petitions,

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but immediately table them, effectively silencing

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the issue in Congress. Right. It's this stance

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personally disliking slavery, but politically

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defending the South's right to it and prioritizing

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the union above all else that really defined

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him. That's why he got labeled a doe face. A

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northerner with southern sympathies. That term

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really captures the growing divide. It does.

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And that internal conflict, that prioritizing

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of union over abolition, sets the stage for everything

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that happened during his presidency. It really

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does. OK, so after Congress, he steps back from

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DC for a bit, right? But then the military dream

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calls again. Yes. the Mexican -American War.

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This is something he'd apparently wanted for

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a long time, influenced by his father and brothers.

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He gets appointed to colonel, then quickly promoted

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to brigadier general in 1847. Leads a brigade

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down to join General Scott's army. A pretty tough

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march, wasn't it? Yeah, three weeks through difficult

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terrain. And his actual combat experience was,

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well, eventful. Yeah. And not entirely positive,

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at least initially. Right, the Battle of Contreras.

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What happened there? His horse got spooked, threw

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him against the saddle, then tripped and fell.

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pinning Pierce's leg underneath caused a really

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bad knee injury. Ouch. And that led to accusations.

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Unfortunately, yes. Because he was incapacitated,

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maybe fainted from the pain. Some accused him

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of cowardice. Politics, even on the battlefield,

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huh? Seems like it. But he showed serious grit.

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He went back into action the next day despite

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the injury and actually re -injured the knee.

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OK, that takes some guts. Then, at the Battle

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of Churubusco, the pain was apparently so bad

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they had to tie him to a saddle to keep him upright.

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He eventually passed out from the pain right

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there on the battlefield. Also suffered from

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severe dysentery during the battle for Mexico

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City. Tied to a saddle? Wow. So despite the injuries

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and the initial accusation, he stuck it out.

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He did. Completed his service, participated in

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capturing Mexico City, and when he got back to

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New Hampshire, he got a hero's welcome. So the

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military service, even though brief and difficult,

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it definitely boosted his public image, gave

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him that war hero credential. Absolutely. Which,

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as we know, was often a golden ticket in 19th

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century presidential politics. But that cowardice

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accusation lingered, didn't it? It did. Our sources

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say it would long shadow him, which makes Ulysses

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S. Grant's later comments even more interesting.

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Grant. What did he say? He served with Pierce

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in Mexico, right? He did. And later in his memoirs,

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Grant, who remember wasn't a political ally of

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Pierce, wrote, whatever General Pierce's qualifications

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may have been for the presidency, he was a gentleman

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and a man of courage. Huh. That's a pretty strong

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defense from someone who saw it firsthand and

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had no political reason to praise him. Exactly.

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It's a valuable counterpoint to the caricature.

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It reminds us that battlefield narratives can

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be messy and personal courage doesn't automatically

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equate to political success or vice versa. A

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really important distinction. OK, so he's got

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the war hero status, the political background.

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How does he end up getting the presidential nomination

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in 1852? He wasn't exactly a front runner, was

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he? Not at all. He was a classic dark horse.

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The Democratic Party was tearing itself apart

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over slavery. Everyone expected the 1852 convention

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to deadlock between the big names like Cass,

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Buchanan, Douglass. A recipe for a compromised

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candidate. Precisely. Pierce's allies saw an

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opening. especially after another potential compromise

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figure, Levi Woodbury, died. They started quietly

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pushing Pierce. And Pierce himself, was he actively

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campaigning? Publicly? No way. He followed the

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custom of pretending not to want it, saying a

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nomination would be utterly repugnant to my tastes

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and wishes. Ah, the standard political dance.

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Right. But privately. He let his supporters work

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the convention floor. And crucially, he wrote

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letters confirming his support for the Compromise

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of 1850, including the Fugitive Slave Act. Ah,

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reassuring the South. A calculated move. Very

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calculated. Yeah. And it worked. After ballot,

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after ballot 48 of them. With no winner, the

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exhausted convention finally turned to Pierce

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on the 49th ballot. William R. King from Alabama

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became his running mate. 49 ballots. Wow. So

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he really was chosen because nobody hated him

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too much. A unifier, in theory. That was the

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idea. Someone acceptable to both Northern and

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Southern Democrats. But you have to ask, did

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being a compromise chosen out of desperation

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just set him up to fail when things got really

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tough? That's a very good question. And the reaction

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to his nomination at home was dramatic. Understatement.

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His wife, Jane, reportedly fainted when she heard

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the news. Fainted, oh dear. And their son, Benjamin,

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the one who... later died in the train crash,

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wrote to his mom saying he hoped his father wouldn't

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win because he knew how much he hated Washington.

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Good grief. That really speaks volumes about

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the personal cost and maybe his own reluctance

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deep down. It really does. And that reluctance,

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that family unhappiness just tragically foreshadowed

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the absolute horror that came next. The train

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accident. just weeks after the election. January

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6, 1853. Pierce, Jane, and 11 -year -old Benjamin

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are on that train here and over Massachusetts.

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It derails. And Benjamin is killed right in front

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of them. Horrifically. Crushed. Nearly decapitated.

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An image neither parent could ever forget. It

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plunged them both into just overwhelming grief.

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And Jane felt it was punishment. Apparently so.

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punishment for his ambition for seeking the presidency.

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She wrote this heartbreaking letter of apology

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to Benny for her failings as a mother. She barely

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participated in White House social life for the

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first two years. How could anyone function under

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that? It's often cited as crippling his presidency

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before it even began. It has to be considered.

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He was emotionally shattered, heading into arguably

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the toughest job in the world during one of the

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country's most dangerous periods, it's critical

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context. Absolutely critical. So he goes to the

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inauguration alone. Jane didn't accompany him.

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No, she stayed behind, still consumed by grief.

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And at the inauguration, Pierce did a couple

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of notable things. First, he affirmed the oath

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of office on a law book, not a Bible. Only the

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second president to do that after John Quincy

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Adams. Interesting choice. Yeah, maybe suggesting

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a more secular view. And second, he delivered

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his entire inaugural address from memory. First

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president ever to do that. Wow. That takes some

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confidence or maybe just a good memory. What

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was the tone of the address? He talked about

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peace and prosperity at home, but also pushed

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hard for American expansion abroad. He embraced

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that young America idea. Acquiring new territories

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was eminently important. So Manifest Destiny

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was alive and well in his administration. Very

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much so. He actually said, the policy of my administration

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will not be deterred by any timid forebodings

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of evil from expansion. Strong words. Did he

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mention slavery? He avoided the word itself,

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but he talked about putting the important subject

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of sexual conflict to rest, emphasizing unity,

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and he made that poignant comment clearly alluding

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to his personal loss. You have summoned me in

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my weakness. You must sustain me by your strength.

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Heartbreaking. And then adding to the rough start,

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his vice president died almost immediately. Yeah,

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William R. King was already ill with tuberculosis,

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went to Cuba, hoping the climate would help,

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was sworn in there, but died just over a month

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into the term. Leaving the VP office vacant for

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almost the entire presidency. Exactly. There

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was no mechanism back then to replace a VP. So

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the Senate president pro tempore was next in

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line. Just another layer of instability. What

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a start. grief, no VP, expansionist talk, and

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the slavery issue simmering. Did he manage to

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get anything done on the administrative side?

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Surprisingly, yes. Despite the political turmoil

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in his personal state, his administration did

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achieve some significant, often overlooked, administrative

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reforms. Like what? Well, he tried to unify the

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Democratic Party by appointing people from different

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factions to his cabinet. That mostly backfired.

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Everyone accused him of favoring the other side.

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Remarkably, that entire original cabinet stayed

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with him for all four years. The only time in

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U .S. history that's happened. Wow. Yep. And

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they did some solid work. They started early

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forms of civil service exams trying to base appointments

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on merit, not just who you knew. A precursor

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to later reforms. His Interior Secretary, Robert

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McClelland, really cleaned house in that department,

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rooting out fraud. Piers gave the attorney general

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more power over pointing federal judges and attorneys

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a step towards the modern Justice Department.

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OK, so some real efforts at efficiency and accountability.

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Definitely. Treasury Secretary James Duthrie

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went after corruption, tried to get federal money

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out of private banks, and Jefferson Davis, his

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secretary of war. Later president of the Confederacy.

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Yeah, right. He oversaw surveys for the transcontinental

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railroad routes, seeing it as vital for national

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security. Also managed construction projects

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in D .C. So there was this side of Pierce committed

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to decent governance. It's that paradox again.

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Capable administrator, but overshadowed by the

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huge political failures. Exactly. And those political

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failures were deeply tied to his foreign policy

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too. The young America expansionism, how did

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that play out? Well, Secretary of State William

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Marcy tried to project this distinctively American

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image diplomats wearing plain clothes instead

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of fancy European court dress, that sort of thing.

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The symbolic gesture. Any tangible gains? Yes,

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the Gadsden Purchase. They bought a chunk of

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land from Mexico, southern Arizona, part of New

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Mexico. Congress haggled the price down, but

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it finalized the southern border of the contiguous

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U .S., more or less. OK, that's significant.

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They also signed a trade reciprocity treaty with

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Britain regarding Canada. Pierce hoped it might

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lead to annexing Canada eventually. And the trade

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treaty with Japan, opened by Commodore Perry,

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was finalized under Pierce. Though... initiated

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earlier. So some diplomatic successes. But there

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was a major controversy, too, right? Cuba? Yeah.

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The Austin Manifesto. This was a huge blunder.

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Three U .S. diplomats in Europe secretly proposed

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buying Cuba from Spain for a hefty sum. OK, buying

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it. But then they added that if Spain refused,

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the U .S. should consider resting it away by

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force. Wow. Just take it. That sounds aggressive.

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Extremely. And when this secret proposal leaked,

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the North went ballistic. They saw it as a blatant

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attempt to grab more slave territory for the

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South. So it backfired badly, made the administration

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look like it was driven by pro -slavery expansionism.

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Completely. It damaged the whole idea of Manifest

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Destiny in many northern eyes and fueled suspicions

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about southern intentions. It shows how domestic

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slavery politics poisoned even foreign policy

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goals. And that brings us squarely to the biggest

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domestic disaster, the Kansas -Nebraska Act.

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Absolutely. the defining and arguably most destructive

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act of his presidency. It all started with Senator

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Stephen Douglas wanting to organize the Western

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Territories, right, for a railroad. Exactly.

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Yeah. Douglas from Illinois wanted a transcontinental

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railroad that would benefit his state. To do

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that, he needed to organize the huge Nebraska

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territory. But to get Southern votes for his

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plan, he needed to offer them something. And

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that something was slavery. Precisely. He proposed

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popular sovereignty. Let the settlers in the

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new territories decide for themselves whether

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to allow slavery. Which sounds democratic on

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the surface. But it directly attacked the Missouri

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Compromise of 1820. That compromise had banned

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slavery north of a specific line, 36 -degree,

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30 -yard latitude, for over 30 years, keeping

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a fragile peace. So Douglas's plan would just

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erase that line? Effectively, yes. His bill split

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the territory into two. Nebraska in the north,

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expected to be free, and Kansas in the south,

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expected or hoped by the south, to become slave.

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Did Pierce support this immediately? It seems

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like throwing gasoline on a fire. He was initially

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hesitant. He knew it would cause a massive uproar

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in the north. But Douglas, along with Jefferson

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Davis, Pierce's own secretary of war, pressured

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him hard. They eventually convinced him to back

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the bill. A fatal decision in hindsight. Absolutely

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catastrophic. It shattered the uneasy truce over

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slavery, reignited the conflict with incredible

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fury, and directly contradicted Pierce's own

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promise to keep the issue settled. It unleashed

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chaos. And that chaos became known as Bleeding

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Kansas. Yep. As soon as the act passed, pro -slavery

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and anti -slavery settlers flooded into Kansas.

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Both sides determined to win the territory. It

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got violent fast. And there were problems with

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the voting, right? The border ruffians? Huge

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problems. Thousands of pro -slavery men from

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Missouri crossed the border just to vote illegally

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in Kansas' territorial elections. They completely

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skewed the results, electing a pro -slavery legislature.

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So a fraudulent election, basically. How did

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Pierce react? This is key. Despite knowing about

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the fraud, Pierce backed the pro -slavery legislature.

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He called the rival anti -slavery government

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set up by the Free Staters with their Topeka

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Constitution an act of rebellion. So he sided

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with the outcome achieved through fraud. He did.

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He recognized the pro -slavery government and

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even sent federal troops to break up meetings

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of the anti -slavery group. He was committed

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to the principle of popular sovereignty, even

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if the process was corrupt. Wow. That must have

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enraged the North, made him look totally biased

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towards the South. It absolutely did. It cemented

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the view of him as a dirt face and made a mockery

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of his claims to be a unifier. It just deepened

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the wounds. And at the same time, all this is

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happening in Kansas, he's also cracking down

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on fugitive slaves back east. Yes, the Anthony

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Burns case in Boston. It happened right around

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the same time as the Kansas -Nebraska debate.

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Burns, an escaped slave, was captured in Boston.

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Boston being a hotbed of abolitionism, that must

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have caused an uproar. Massive protests, fury

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in the streets. But Pierce was adamant about

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enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act. He saw it as

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his constitutional duty. Regardless of the moral

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implications or public opinion in the North?

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Exactly. He sent federal troops, marshals, even

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ships. spending a huge amount of money just to

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ensure Burns was forcibly returned to his owner

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in Virginia. What a powerful symbol. Federal

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power used explicitly to uphold slavery against

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the wishes of a northern city. For abolitionists

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and many northerners, it was just another slap

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in the face. It proved the federal government

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under Pierce was actively propping up the slave

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system. It further alienated huge segments of

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the population. So leading Kansas, Anthony Burns?

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The political consequences must have been enormous.

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Transformative. The whole party system basically

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exploded. The Whig party just disintegrated over

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the slavery issue. Couldn't hold the northern

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and southern wings together anymore. And what

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rose from the ashes? Two main groups initially.

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The American party or Know Nothings. They were

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anti -immigrant, anti -Catholic, tapping into

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nativist fears. They had a brief surge. But the

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bigger one was the Republicans, right? Absolutely.

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The Republican Party was founded specifically

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in response to Kansas -Nebraska, dedicated to

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stopping the expansion of slavery. It drew anti

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-slavery wigs, Democrats, free soilers, a powerful

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new coalition based entirely in the North. So

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Pierce's actions directly led to the creation

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of the party that would eventually elect Lincoln.

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You could definitely argue that. The midterm

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elections in 1854 -55 were a disaster for the

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Democrats outside the South. The political map

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was being completely redrawn along sectional

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lines, largely because of the fallout from Pierce's

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policies. It really accelerated the path to war.

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OK, so after all that, did he seriously expect

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to be re -nominated in 1856? Amazingly, yes.

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He fully expected the Democratic nomination.

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But the party leaders knew better. They saw how

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unpopular he was in the North, how toxic, bleeding

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Kansas had become. He was an electoral liability.

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So the convention in Cincinnati, it wasn't smooth

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sailing for him? Not at all. On the first ballot,

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James Buchanan actually had more votes than Pierce.

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Pierce's support was mostly from the South. It

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deadlocked. How many ballots this time? 14 deadlocked

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ballots. Pierce's support was fading. He finally

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saw the writing on the wall and withdrew. Did

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he throw his support to anyone? Yeah, he tried

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to get his delegates to back Stephen Douglas,

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hoping to stop Buchanan. But Douglas, probably

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figuring 1860 would be his year, also withdrew.

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That sealed it for Buchanan. So Pierce became

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the first elected president actively seeking

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renomination to be denied by his own party. That's

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right. A pretty stunning rejection. It just shows

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how badly his presidency had damaged the party

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and the country in their eyes. They needed someone

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who wasn't so directly tied to the Kansas fiasco.

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A brutal end to his time in office. Did he just

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fade away after that? Not entirely. He remained

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outspoken. especially as the country spiraled

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towards war. He kept blaming Northern abolitionists,

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urging them to back off to avoid secession. He

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even called New England ministers preaching abolition

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guilty of heresy and treason. Strong words. How

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did he react when the war actually started? He

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was highly critical of Lincoln. He strongly opposed

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Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus, the right

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to not be detained without charge. He sided with

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the peace Democrats, who prioritize civil liberties

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even in wartime. Which probably didn't win him

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many friends in the North during the war. Definitely

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not. It reinforces image as a Southern sympathizer.

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There was even this bizarre incident where a

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hoax letter surfaced, accusing him of being part

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of some plot against Lincoln. A plot? Seriously?

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Yeah, it led to a public spat with Secretary

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of State Seward. Pierce had to have his personal

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letters read in Congress to clear his name. But

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he kept criticizing Lincoln, accusing him of

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abusing presidential power. He called the war

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cruel, heartless, aimless, unnecessary. Wow.

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So he remained defiant and deeply unpopular in

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the North right through the war. Pretty much.

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His criticism of Lincoln cemented that negative

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legacy for many. He was seen by some as almost

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treasonous. And his personal life after the presidency.

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More tragedy. Sadly, yes. His wife Jane died

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in 1863 from her long battle with tuberculosis.

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Then his close friend, Nathaniel Hawthorne, died

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in 1864 while they were actually traveling together.

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That's rough. Hawthorne had controversially dedicated

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his last book to Pierce, hadn't he? He had. Our

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old home caused quite a stir because Pierce was

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so unpopular by then. Pierce's own health declined

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too, largely due to heavy drinking. Alcoholism?

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Seems so. He died of cirrhosis of the liver in

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1869 at age 64. He did become more spiritual

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towards the end, getting baptized into the Episcopal

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Church, his wife's faith. A difficult end to

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a difficult life. Was there any public reaction

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to his death? There was. Interestingly, President

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Grant, the same Grant who defended his courage,

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declared a national day of mourning. So, despite

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the controversy, he hadn't entirely vanished

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from public memory. There was one last flashpoint,

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too, after Lincoln's assassination. Oh, what

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happened? A lob gathered outside his house in

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Concord, demanding to know why he wasn't flying

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a flag for Lincoln. Pierce came out apparently

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quite angry, but also patriotic, basically saying

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his record of service spoke for itself. It seemed

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to satisfy the crowd. Huh. Still a complex figure.

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Right to the end. So how do historians ultimately

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rate him? You mentioned the rankings earlier.

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Yeah, the consensus is pretty bleak. Consistently

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ranked near the very bottom worst, least memorable.

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C -span polls put him third to last. Historian

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Eric Foner called his administration one of the

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most disastrous in American history. Ouch. Pretty

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damning. Biographer Roy Nichols basically called

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him an accident. An inexperienced man trying

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his best but lacking the temperamental fitness

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for the job. The general view is that he was

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reactive, indecisive, and ultimately made the

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sectional crisis much worse. So the overwhelming

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view is negative. But you mentioned diverse interpretations

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earlier. Not everyone blames him entirely. Right.

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Some historians, like Peter Wallner, push back

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against laying it all at Pierce's feet. Wallner

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argues Pierce was fundamentally a nationalist,

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trying to find some middle ground, however flawed,

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to keep the union together. He thinks it's unfair

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to blame him solely for failing to prevent the

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inevitable. So maybe a tragic figure caught in

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impossible circumstances. That's one perspective.

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But then you have others, like Larry Garrah,

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who say, OK, he worked hard, wasn't corrupt,

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but his policies on Cuba and Kansas were disastrous.

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They argue he just didn't understand the depth

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of anti -slavery feeling in the North, lacked

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the superhuman skills needed, and clung to an

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outdated view of the Constitution. So the debate

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is really about agency versus historical forces.

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Was he a victim of his time or did his own flaws

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and decisions make things significantly worse?

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Exactly. Was he trying to navigate an impossible

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storm or did he steer the ship directly onto

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the rocks? It's a complex question with no easy

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answer. And yet, despite this terrible historical

00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:10.059
reputation, he's still memorialized, right? Especially

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in New Hampshire. He is. There's Franklin Pierce

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University, the Franklin Pierce Center for Intellectual

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Property at UNH Law School. His family homestead

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is a historic site. There's even a statue of

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him at the state capitol. It's kind of jarring,

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isn't it, given how poorly he's ranked as president?

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What does that tell us? That's a great question.

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Is it just local pride? acknowledging a native

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son who reached the highest office, regardless

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of his performance, or maybe it just shows that

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history is complicated and even figures seen

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as failures remain part of the story, part of

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the landscape. Yeah, history isn't always neat

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and tidy. We remember the good, the bad, and

00:30:44.819 --> 00:30:48.039
the complicated. Absolutely. So we've traced

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Franklin Pierce's journey from that charming

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young man marked by terrible personal loss to

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a president whose attempts to find compromise,

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particularly on slavery, arguably just fueled

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the fire. A man of integrity in some ways, capable

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of administrative reform, yet whose political

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choices around Kansas, Nebraska and the Fugitive

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Sleeve Act had devastating consequences. It really

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forces you to think, doesn't it? In times of

00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.980
deep national division, especially over fundamental

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moral issues, can a leader truly find a middle

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ground? If that ground requires compromising

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on justice. Or does trying to appease everyone

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end up pleasing no one and making the underlying

00:31:27.630 --> 00:31:30.009
problem worse? Right. How do you balance unity

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with conscience? It's a question that Pierce

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faced in the 1850s, and it's a question that

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in many ways we're still wrestling with today.

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It certainly resonates. Well, thank you for joining

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us on this deep dive into a complex and controversial

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presidency.
