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Welcome to the Jeep Dive, where we sift through

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mountains of information to uncover the most

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impactful insights for you. Today, while we're

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tackling a question that kind of echoes through

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rock history, how does a band not just hang on,

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but actually thrive for, what, over 60 years

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now? It's more than just sticking around, isn't

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it? It's about staying vital, staying relevant.

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Exactly. We're talking about a cultural force,

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a phenomenon that's just consistently defied

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time, trends, maybe even itself sometimes. Indeed.

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So today we're doing a deep dive into the phenomenal,

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the enduring legacy of the Rolling Stones. Our

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mission really is to unpack the key moments,

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some surprising facts maybe, their incredible

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musical journey, and just that sheer resilience

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that led people to call them, you know, the greatest

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rock and roll band in the world. Yeah, that title.

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We'll get into that. And to do it, we've dug

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through a whole stack of sources for you. Historical

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docs, discographies, biographies, critical takes,

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the lot. We're going to try and guide you through

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there. Amazing. And let's be honest, often a

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pretty wild journey. It's quite a ride. So expect

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everything from their bluesy London roots, those

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defining rivalries, you know, the Beatles comparisons.

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Right. And then the huge stadium tours, the personal

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dramas, the iconic logo, that sound that just

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kept changing and evolving. We should find some

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real aha. and yeah, probably a few laughs too.

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Okay, let's rewind way back to the very start,

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the genesis of these giants. We're talking late

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50s, early 60s, laying that blues foundation.

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It really starts with a chance meeting, doesn't

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it? It does. And it's funny, before they were

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Mick and Keith, they were just kids. Classmates,

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actually. Childhood friends in Dartford, Kent,

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way back in 1950. Wow, that early? Yeah. And

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even then, Jagger, with his mate Dick Taylor,

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was already seriously into American blues and

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R &B, you know, the real foundational stuff,

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Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley. For them,

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it wasn't just tunes, it was like... An education.

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A passion, yeah. So they knew each other as kids,

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but then Jagger's family moved. Right, they lost

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touch for a bit until this almost unbelievable

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moment, October 17th, 1961, Platform 2, Dartford

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Railway Station. They literally bump into each

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other. No way. Yeah. And Jagger's carrying these

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records, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, and Richard

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sees them and instantly, bam. that shared musical

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DNA clicks. That moment, just on a train platform,

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that's the spark for maybe the most legendary

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partnership in rock. It shows how these huge

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things can start from something so small, just

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a shared interest. Absolutely. And they didn't

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waste time. Richards and Taylor started hanging

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out at Gyre's place, listening to records, figuring

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things out. By late 61, they'd roped in a couple

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of others, Alan Etherington and Bob Beckwith,

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and they had this little jam group called the

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Blues Boys. The Blues Boys, okay? Their first

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kind of band. Pretty much informal, but crucial.

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Laying the groundwork, you know, getting that

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chemistry going. So the Sparks there, the Blues

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Boys are jamming. But how do we get to the Rolling

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Stones? Putting together that original lineup.

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That's a whole story in itself. It really is.

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And a key place was the Ealing Jazz Club. Around

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March, April 62, some of the blues boys read

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about it in Jazz News. It was the place for R

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&B in London then, Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated

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played there. Ah, Alexis Korner. Huge influence.

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Massive. Jagger and Richards actually sent him

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a tape. Pretty bold. And Korner was apparently

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impressed. So they go down to the club and who

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do they meet? Brian Jones, Ian Stewart, Charlie

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Watts, all playing with Korner. It was like a

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magnet for talent there. So everyone's kind of

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orbiting this same scene. Yeah. and then people

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start shifting around. Exactly. Musical chairs,

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like you said, Jagger, Richards, and Dick Taylor

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eventually leave Blues Incorporated to team up

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with Jones and Stewart. But it wasn't instantly

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smooth sailing. Early rehearsals, some of the

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more trad jazz guys, they weren't keen on the

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raw Chuck Berrybo diddly stuff that Jagger and

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Richards loved. Ah, so the blues rock direction

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was kind of fought for right from the start.

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It definitely underscored their path. And the

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name. Who actually came up with the Rolling Stones?

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Good question. According to Keith, it was totally

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on the fly. Brian Jones was on the phone with

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Jazz News trying to book a gig. They ask, what's

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the band's name? Jones looks down, sees a Muddy

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Waters LP on the floor, track title, Rolling

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Stone. And that was it? Just like that? It's

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just like that. Perfect name, really, straight

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from the source. And you have to remember, in

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those very early days, Brian Jones was really

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seen as the leader. uncontested leader, Richard

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said, he was key to getting them going. Right,

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okay, so we've got the name, the core group is

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forming, they have this breezy sound. Yeah. But

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they need gigs. And a manager, right? That seems

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crucial. Absolutely crucial. Their first official

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gig as the Rolling Stones was July 12th, 1962

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at the Marquis Club in London. Jones, Jagger,

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Richard, Stuart, Taylor. But the rhythm section

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wasn't locked yet. Still missing Wyman and Watts

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in the classic lineup. Exactly. Bill Wyman didn't

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join until December 62. He auditions, and apparently

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they were impressed not just by his playing,

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but by his gear. He had a good bass, and crucially,

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those Vox AC -30 amps. Oh. The gear factor. Always

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important. Always. And then, the final piece,

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Charlie Watts. The classic lineup with Charlie

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on drums plays its first public gig in January

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63, Ealing Jazz Club again. He becomes permanent

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a month later. That jazz swing he had, that was

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different. And then comes the manager, Andrew

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Log Oldham. Yes, May 1963. He was young, only

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19, had ties to Brian Epstein, the Beatles manager.

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Oldham saw the Stones and immediately got this

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vision. The anti -Beatles vision. Precisely.

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He saw the Beatles clean image and thought, right,

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we go the other way. He deliberately crafted

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that bad boy image, encouraged the mismatched

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clothes, the long hair, the unclean appearance.

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His words were like, a raunchy, gamey, unpredictable

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bunch of undesirables. Wow. He really went for

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it. Threatening, uncouth, and animalistic. Yeah.

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That was a strategy. A brilliant marketing strategy,

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really, carving out their own space. And he was

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pretty ruthless about it. Take Ian Stewart. The

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piano player. Founding member. Yeah, fantastic

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player. But Oldham took him out of the official

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lineup. Why? Well, he just doesn't look the part,

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Oldham apparently said. And six is too many for

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fans to remember the faces. Harsh, but focused

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on that image. Laser focused. Thankfully, Stewart

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stayed on. Road manager, session keys, played

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offstage for years, eventually back on stage.

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He was always part of the family, really. OK,

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image sorted, lineup solidifying, time to get

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into the studio. And their DECA deal. That was

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interesting too, wasn't it? Very interesting.

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Decca, of course, famously passed on the Beatles.

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Maybe they learned their lesson. They gave the

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Stones a really good deal for the time. High

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royalties, artistic control. They even owned

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their master tapes, which was almost unheard

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of then. That's huge leverage for a new band.

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Massive. They liked recording at Regent Sound

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Studios. Pretty basic monoplace. And Oldham,

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with zero production experience, just steps in

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as producer, creates this wall of noise sound

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that just worked for their raw energy. Their

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first single. A cover? Yeah, Chuck Berry's. Come

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on, June 63. Got to number 21 UK. Funnily enough,

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the band apparently hated playing it live. Too

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poppy. But it charted. How? Oldham's strategy

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again? Got the fan club members to go out and

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buy copies in the shops that the church compilers

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polled? Bit cheeky, but it worked. Clever. And

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the second single had a Beatles connection. It

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did. Lennon McCartney gave him, I wanna be your

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man. Got to number 13 UK. That direct link between

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the two biggest bands is pretty cool. And that

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led to TV. Yep. January 1st, 1964. First band

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ever on BBC's Top of the Pops playing I Wanna

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Be Your Man. Big moment. And Oldham kept pushing

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Jagger and Richards, write your own songs. Which

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they weren't sure about at first. Richard said

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their early stuff sounded soppy and imitative,

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but then their original started charting, and

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as he put it, that gave us extraordinary confidence

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to carry on. Their first album in 64 was mostly

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covers showing their roots, but it had one Jagger

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Richards original, plus a couple credited to

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Nankerfelge. That was their collective pseudonym

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for group compositions. Just a way to share the

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credit, I guess. Right. So 1964 ends. They've

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got a UK footing. Let's move into Act II, 65

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to 72. This is where they really explode. Right.

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The ascent to superstardom. But America was an

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instant love. Oh, definitely not. That first

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U .S. tour, June 64. Bill Wyman flat out called

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it a disaster. No hit record there yet. And they

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got mocked on national TV. Dean Martin on the

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Hollywood Palace made fun of their hair, their

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look. Ouch. Dino making fun of you. That must

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have stung. Yeah, a sign their bad boy thing

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wasn't quite clicking stateside yet. But there

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was a crucial upside to that trip. Which was?

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Chess Studios. Chicago, they spent two days recording

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there, hallowed ground, you know, and they met

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their heroes, Muddy Waters himself was there,

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apparently asked if they were gonna help him

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paint the ceiling. Huh, that's amazing. Meeting

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Muddy Waters at chess, that must have felt like

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validation. Totally, a spiritual pilgrimage almost,

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but things really turned around with, I can't

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get no satisfaction, recorded May 65 on their

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third US tour. And that riff, Keith's Fuzzbox

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riff, Iconic doesn't even cover it. It really

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is. And apparently, that fuzz tone was almost

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an accident. He used a Maestro FZ -1 fuzz tone

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pedal, intending it as a guide for a horn section

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he planned to add later. But the fuzz stayed.

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The fuzz stayed. And it became the sound. Raw,

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aggressive, totally new. That riff, born from

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a placeholder idea, defined the song and arguably

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lynched a whole new era of guitar tones. It shot

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to number one in the US, their first. Worldwide

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smash. And Keith said, the last time. The single

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before it was like the bridge, right? Giving

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them the confidence to write for the Stones.

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Exactly. Satisfaction blew the doors open, but

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the last time showed them they could write hits

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themselves. After Satisfaction, it was just hit

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after hit. get off of my cloud later in 65 and

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paint it black in 66 global number ones they

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were consolidating and with that success they

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started experimenting more musically this is

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where brian jones really shines is in adding

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all those different textures absolutely aftermath

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spring 66 huge album first one with only jagger

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richard songs a massive step creatively and jones

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was just playing everything. Sitar on Paint It

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Black. That iconic sound. Zollsummer on Lady

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Jane. Marimba's on Under My Thumb. He was bringing

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in all these exotic sounds, pushing them way

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beyond just blues rock. He was crucial to that

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expansion. They were tackling some heavier lyrical

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themes too. Mother's Little Helper. Yeah, 66.

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One of the first pop songs to really talk about

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prescription drug abuse. Those little yellow

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pills. Pretty bold for the time. Showed they

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weren't afraid of touching on darker social stuff.

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Then came the big psychedelic detour. their satanic

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majesty's request. December 67. Yeah, their answer

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to the Spart Peppers, I suppose. Elaborate cover,

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psychedelic sounds. But the reviews were pretty

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harsh, weren't they? Generally unfavorable, yeah.

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Seen by many as them trying too hard to copy

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the Beatles. Though Bill Wyman got a song on

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there. He did, in another land. Sang lead, too.

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A rare moment for him, creatively on record.

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This whole period, though, it wasn't just music.

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It was chaos, right? Controversies, drug busts.

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The Redlands raid sounds like a turning point.

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Oh, the Redlands raid was massive. February 67,

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police raid Keith's country house, Redlands.

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Tipoff came from his chauffeur, apparently. Jagger

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Richards and their art dealer friend Robert Frazier

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all got charged with drug offenses. And Keith

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said that's when the fun stopped. Yeah, his quote

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was something like, it suddenly made us realize

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that this was a whole different ball game. The

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scrutiny, the pressure from authorities, it ramped

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up intensely. And the sentences were heavy, initially.

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Seriously heavy. Jagger got three months for

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amphetamine possession. Richards got a year for

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allowing cannabis smoking. They were briefly

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jailed, then bailed, pending appeal. The public

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reaction was huge. That famous editorial on the

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Times. Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel? Exactly.

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William Reeves' Moog's piece. Powerful stuff,

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questioning the severity, framing it as persecution.

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It really shifted public opinion. And the band

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responded with a song. We love you. Kind of a

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thank you to the fans for their support. Starts

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with that chilling sound of prison doors slamming.

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The video even referenced Oscar Wilde's trial.

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It was defiant. And ultimately, the appeal worked.

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Richard's conviction overturned. Jagger's sentence

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reduced to basically nothing. A big win. But

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while they were fighting the law, things were

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fracturing inside the band, too, especially around

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Brian Jones. Yeah, sadly, his health, his drug

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use, it was getting worse. And then during a

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trip to Morocco, his girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg,

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left him for Keith. Richard's called that the

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final nail in the coffin for their relationship,

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just adding personal tragedy to the mix. It's

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a lot to handle. But then, out of this chaos,

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comes what many call the greatest rock and roll

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band era, starting with a return to their roots.

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Beggar's Banquet, 1968. Yes, back to the blues,

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back to the grit. And their first album with

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producer Jimmy Miller, who is just perfect for

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them. And some absolute classics on there, Sympathy

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for the Devil. With those woo -woo vocals, yeah.

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And Street Fighting Man, directly tapping into

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the revolutionary vibe of 68, The Student Protests.

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Though the album itself got delayed, right? because

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of the cover. The toilet cover. Yeah, the label

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balked at the graffiti -covered bathroom wall.

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Took six months to get it released with a different

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cover initially. Always pushing boundaries. But

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this period also saw the tragic end of Brian

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Jones' time with the band. His contributions

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were dwindling. Severely. Jagger said he just

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wasn't psychologically suited to the lifestyle

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anymore. The drugs were taking a heavy toll.

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He officially left in June 1969. And then, less

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than a month later... He drowned in his swimming

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pool, just 27. Such a shock. And they had a concert

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planned just days later. Yeah, a free concert

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in Hyde Park. They decided to go ahead, make

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it a tribute to Brian. It must have been incredibly

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difficult. Jagger read Shelley's Adonis. They

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released thousands of butterflies. And this was

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Mick Taylor's debut. Jones's replacement. It

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was. Taylor, the young guitar prodigy John Mayle

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recommended. Playing his first gig with the Stones

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in front of, what, 250 ,000 people? Incredibly

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poignant, emotional day. And that's where the

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famous introduction started. Apparently so. Stage

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manager Sam Cutler grabs the mic. Let's welcome

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the greatest rock and roll band in the world.

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He kept using it on the US tour later that year.

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It just stuck. Bold claim, but they started living

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up to it. And 1969 also gave us Let It Bleed.

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Another monster album. Absolutely. Gimme Shelter

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with Mary Clayton's absolutely searing guest

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vocal. Yeah. Chills every time. Still does. Yeah.

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And you can't always get what you want with the

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London Back Choir. Epic. Such a range on that

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album. But the year ended so darkly. Altamont.

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Yeah, the Altamont Free Concert, December 69.

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It's supposed to be a West Coast Woodstock, but

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it just went wrong. Horribly wrong. Hell's Angels

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hired for security, supposedly paid in beer,

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end up beating people. And then... Tragically,

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a fan, Meredith Hunter, was stabbed to death

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right near the stage while the Stones were playing.

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And it was all captured on film. In Gimme Shelter,

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the Maisels Brothers documentary, it's chilling

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to watch, became this symbol of the 60s dream

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turning sour, a really grim end to the decade.

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So entering the 70s, they're huge, but dealing

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with the fallout of Altamont and looking to get

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more control? Yeah. Business -wise? Definitely.

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They were really unhappy with their manager Alan

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Klein and their old DECA contract. They felt

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ripped off. So to fulfill their final obligation

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to DECA for one last single, they recorded Cocksucker

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Blues. Oh yeah. A liberately crude, raw, totally

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unreleasable. The idea was Depp wouldn't be able

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to put it out, thus ending the contract. It was

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a power move. And it worked. That's brilliant

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in a way. Taking control. Which led to... Rolling

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Stones records. Their own label formed in 1971.

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Total game changer. Gave them complete artistic

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and financial freedom. And the first album on

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their own label was Sticky Fingers. March 71

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with that cover. The Warhol cover. The jeans

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with the real zipper. Instantly iconic. Caused

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a bit of a stir, obviously. And Sticky Fingers

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was also the debut of the logo. The tongue and

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lips. Probably the most famous logo in music

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history. Easily. Designed by John Posh. Apparently,

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Jagger suggested looking at the Hindu goddess

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Kali's outstretched tongue for inspiration. Sean

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Egan called it the most famous logo in the history

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of popular music. Hard to argue. They were innovating

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on the recording side, too, weren't they? The

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mobile studio. Yeah, the Rolling Stones' mobile

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studio. Ian Stewart's idea back in 68 basically

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put a recording studio in a truck, meant they

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could record wherever, whenever they wanted,

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outside normal studio hours and houses wherever.

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And other bands use it too. Oh yeah. Led Zeppelin

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recorded huge chunks of Led Zeppelin III and

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IV in it. Deep Purple immortalized it in Smoke

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on the Water, the Rolling Truck Stones thing,

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you know. It really changed how albums could

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be made. Then came another big move. This one

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financial. Tax Exile. Right. 1971, on the advice

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of their financial guru, Prince Rupert Lowenstein,

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they discovered they owed a massive amount in

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unpaid UK taxes. So they relocated primarily

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to the south of France. To save money, basically.

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Essentially, yes. They set up this complex structure

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through companies in the Netherlands and the

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Caribbean, reportedly got their tax rate down

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to something tiny, like 1 .6 percent. Hugely

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controversial, but a very shrewd business decision

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for them at the time. And this move directly

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led to the recording of exile on main set. Exactly.

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Released May 72, largely recorded in the basement

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of Villa Nelcote, Keith's rented mansion in the

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south of France, using the mobile studio parked

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outside. It was apparently chaotic, legendary

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sessions. And the reviews initially weren't great.

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Some critics, like Lester Bangs initially, found

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it kind of muddy, sprawling, inconsistent. But

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opinion shifted pretty quickly. Now it's almost

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universally seen as maybe their masterpiece.

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A gritty, glorious double album born out of that

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whole chaotic exile period. Okay, let's move

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into Act III. We're talking 72 to 99, evolution,

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resilience, and World War III. This period sees

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big changes, starting with Mick Taylor leaving.

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Yeah, late 74. Taylor's exit was complicated.

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He'd been there five years, felt like a bit of

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a junior citizen, as he put it. He felt his songwriting

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contributions weren't getting enough recognition.

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And the drug scene was getting heavy. That was

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definitely a factor, creating a tough environment.

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Ultimately, Taylor said he wanted to broaden

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his scope, try other things. He felt overshadowed

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by Mick and Keith. So another guitar search begins.

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How did Ronnie Wood end up getting the gig? Well,

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the recording sessions for Black and Blue in

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76 basically turned into auditions. Big names

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tried out. Frampton, Jeff Beck, Rory Gallagher,

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some maybe not even knowing it was an audition.

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That's sneaky. But Ronnie Wood, who already knew

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Keith well from the faces and had played on a

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Stones track before. Yeah. He'd just fit. He

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actually turned Jagger down at first because

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he was still committed to the faces, but eventually

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he joined in in 75. Though, interestingly, he

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was just a salaried employee for years, until

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the early 90s. Shows that hierarchy was still

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there. Now, the mid 70s, punk rock explodes.

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Did that make the stone seem a little old? To

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some critics, yeah. They became a bit dismissive,

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record sales dipped a little, punk was raw, anti

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-establishment, and the Stones were, by then,

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rock royalty. Some definitely saw them as outdated.

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But then came some girls. 1978. Massive comeback.

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Huge. It felt like their direct answer to punk

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and disco, actually. Fast, basic, guitar -driven

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rock, but also that huge disco hit, Miss You.

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Right. Miss You is everywhere. And Beast of Burden

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shattered. Great singles. The album just clicked.

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It totally reestablished their popularity, especially

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with younger fans. Proved they could still evolve

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and deliver. And that momentum carried into the

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80s. Tattoo you. 1981, another number one. And

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get this, it was mostly made up of outtakes,

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unfinished tracks from sessions going back years.

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Seriously, tracks like Start Me Up. Yeah, Start

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Me Up was originally a reggae -ish jam from the

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mid -70s. They reworked it. Even some of McTaylor's

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old guitar parts were on tracks like Waiting

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on a Friend. And they brought in Sonny Rollins,

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the jazz saxophone legend, for a couple of tracks.

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Just brilliant curation, really. And the tours

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were getting bigger and bigger. Colossal. The

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81 American Tour was described as their biggest,

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longest, most colorful production yet. Highest

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-grossing tour of the year. This is also when

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Chuck Lavelle joined on keyboards. Ah, Chuck

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Lavelle. Still with them today, right? Yep. A

00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.579
constant presence, fantastic player adds so much

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to their live sound. But while they're breaking

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records on tour... Yeah. ...behind the scenes,

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things are getting ugly between Mick and Keith.

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World War III. That's what Keith called it. Yeah,

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a really serious riff developed. A lot of it

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stemmed from Jagger's solo ambitions. He signed

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a big solo deal with CBS. Keith felt Mick was

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losing interest in the Stones, putting himself

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first. So a real power struggle. Sick time. Led

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to a lot of animosity, creative friction. They

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were barely speaking at points. And they both

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did solo albums during this time. They did. Jagger

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had She's the Boss in 85, Primitive Cool in 87,

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commercially successful. Keith released Talk

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is Cheap in 88, his first solo album. Critically

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acclaimed, fans loved it. But these solo projects

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kind of fueled the fire, you know? Yeah, I can

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imagine. And during all this tension, they lost

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Ian Stewart. Sadly, yes. December 1985. Passed

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away suddenly. He was always the quiet glue,

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the sixth stone in spirit. They held a private

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tribute concert for him. A really tough loss,

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even amidst all the fighting. The album they

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made during this period. Dirty work. 86, you

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can kind of hear the tension. Oh, definitely.

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It was recorded when things were at an all -time

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low, as Keith put it. Jagger was apparently often

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absent. Richards really drove it. Keith explicitly

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called it World War III, said the band almost

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broke up. It was that serious. So what brought

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them back together? Seems like the Rock and Roll

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Hall of Fame induction in early 89 was a catalyst.

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Mick, Keith, Ronnie, even Mick Taylor were all

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there, sharing that moment, acknowledging their

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legacy. It seemed to help them reconcile. And

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that led to Steel Wheels. later in 89, and it

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was hailed as a real return to form. They sounded

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like a band again. It even had that track Continental

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Drift recorded in Morocco with the master musicians

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of Jujuka, showed they were still exploring.

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And the tour for Steel Wheels was massive, too.

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The Steel Wheels Urban Jungle Tour, 8990, first

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world tour in seven years, biggest production

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they'd ever done, highest grossing tour in the

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world at that time. It was a huge statement.

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The Stones are back. World War III was over,

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for now. And this was Bill Wyman's last tour.

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It was. He'd been thinking about for years, apparently.

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Officially left in 93 after three decades, went

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off to do his Rhythm King's project, another

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era ending. Who replaced him? Daryl Jones came

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in on bass for the Voodoo Lounge album in 94.

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He'd played with Miles Davis, among others. Great

00:23:04.230 --> 00:23:06.690
player. Still their touring bassist. And Voodoo

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Lounge did well. Yeah, critically. commercially,

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won a Grammy for best rock album. New producer

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Don Was got a lot of credit for helping them

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find a fresh but still classic sound. Now, here's

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something surprising. The Stones as Internet

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pioneers in 1994. It's true. November 94, they

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became the first major band to broadcast a concert

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over the Internet. It's like a 20 minute segment

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streamed using this experimental high bandwidth

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thing called the M -Bone. 10 frames per second.

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Something like that. Primitive by today's standards.

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But it was one of the very first public demos

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of streaming video showed they were willing to

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embrace new tech early on. Pretty forward thinking.

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And they finished the 90s still touring strong.

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Absolutely. Bridges to Babylon tour. No security

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tour. Still filling stadiums. Still delivering

00:23:54.369 --> 00:23:57.289
incredible live shows. Their resilience is just

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something else. OK. Act four. The 2000s to now.

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still going strong into their sixth decade and

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beyond. Let's talk about the 40th anniversary.

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2002, they marked it with 40 licks, that big

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greatest hits collection, included four new songs

00:24:10.339 --> 00:24:13.299
too, sold over seven million copies, still massive.

00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:15.880
And they did that huge concert in Toronto in

00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.440
2003 for SARS relief. Molson Canadian Rocks for

00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.559
Toronto, yeah. Almost half a million people,

00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:23.619
an incredible turnout, showed their cultural

00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:26.500
pull, using their fame for a good cause. But

00:24:26.500 --> 00:24:28.019
there was some friction around digital stuff

00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:31.920
too. DVDs. Ah, right. They did an exclusive DVD

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.059
deal for their four Flix box set with Best Buy

00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:38.319
in the U .S. Other big retailers like HMV Canada,

00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.359
Circuit City, they boycotted it in protest. It

00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.440
was an early sign of the clashes coming between

00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.839
artists, labels and retailers in the digital

00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.759
age. Still, they got inducted into the UK Music

00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.160
Hall of Fame as inaugural members in 2004. Then

00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.519
came a new studio album, A Bigger Bang, 2005.

00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:58.680
first in nearly eight years. Yeah, got good reviews

00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.980
mostly. And it had that song Sweet Neocon, Mick

00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:04.819
Jagger taking a direct shot at American neoconservatism.

00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:07.079
Keith was worried about backlash. A little bit

00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.460
initially, but he backed Mick's lyrics, showed

00:25:09.460 --> 00:25:11.259
they weren't afraid to be political, even if

00:25:11.259 --> 00:25:13.400
it might annoy some people. And the tour for

00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.000
A Bigger Bang just broke all the records, didn't

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.359
it? Completely smashed them. 2005 to 2007 grossed

00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:24.900
over half a billion dollars. $558 million. Guinness

00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:27.140
World Records for the highest grossing tour ever

00:25:27.140 --> 00:25:29.500
at that point. Included the Super Bowl halftime

00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:32.480
show in 2006 too. And that Rio concert on Copacabana

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.329
Beach. over a million people. Just staggering,

00:25:35.650 --> 00:25:37.990
the logistics alone. They needed this incredibly

00:25:37.990 --> 00:25:40.690
complex sound system with relay towers stretching

00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:43.509
2 .5 kilometers down the beach just so everyone

00:25:43.509 --> 00:25:46.630
could hear the music in sync. Mind -blowing scale.

00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:48.690
But even during this massive success, there were

00:25:48.690 --> 00:25:50.869
personal struggles. Keith's fall. Yeah, fell

00:25:50.869 --> 00:25:53.309
out of a tree in Fiji. Needed cranial surgery.

00:25:53.589 --> 00:25:55.890
A real scare. And Ronnie Wood went into rehab

00:25:55.890 --> 00:25:58.130
for alcohol around the same time. Reminders that

00:25:58.130 --> 00:26:00.390
even rock gods are human, facing real battles.

00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:02.920
Martin Scorsese captured some of this era's live

00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.480
energy in his documentary Shine a Light in 2008.

00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.059
Moving towards the 50th anniversary, big changes

00:26:08.059 --> 00:26:11.400
behind the scenes again. Management? Yep. Prince

00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.880
Rupert Lowenstein, their manager for 40 years,

00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:16.720
stepped down in 2010. Apparently he suggested

00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:18.859
they wind things down, sell assets, and they

00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:21.619
weren't having it. Joy Smith, their longtime

00:26:21.619 --> 00:26:23.980
lawyer, took over. Still manages them today,

00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:26.440
won awards for it, shows they were still focused

00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:28.440
on the business side. And Exile on Mainstain,

00:26:28.539 --> 00:26:31.839
hitting number one again in 2010. 38 years later.

00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.380
Unbelievable, isn't it? Just proves the timelessness

00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:36.680
of that album, reaching a whole new generation.

00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.440
The 50th anniversary in 2012 was a big celebration.

00:26:39.660 --> 00:26:43.279
The huge new book, The Rolling Stones, 50, new

00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.859
logo variation by Shepard Fairey, the documentary

00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:49.660
Crossfire Hurricane, and a new compilation, GRRR,

00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:52.720
with two brand new tracks, Doom and Gloom, and

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.339
One More Shot. Still creating. And the 15 counting

00:26:55.339 --> 00:26:57.539
tour had loads of guest stars. Yeah, it was like

00:26:57.539 --> 00:27:00.339
a victory lap with friends. Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton,

00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.099
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift. A real mix

00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:05.640
of legends and contemporary stars showed their

00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.960
reach across generations. The return to Hyde

00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.140
Park in 2013 must have been emotional. Hugely.

00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:13.220
First time playing there since the Brian Jones

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:16.880
tribute in 69. Mick Taylor even guested. A real

00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.660
full circle moment. And Mick Jagger around 2015

00:27:19.660 --> 00:27:22.400
just flat out said, I'm not thinking about retirement.

00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.319
I'm planning the next set of tours. Just relentless.

00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.480
And they proved it with that historic Cuba concert

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.059
in 2016. The Havana Moon concert. Free show,

00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.220
estimated half a million people, a massive cultural

00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:37.700
event, first big western rock band to play there

00:27:37.700 --> 00:27:40.099
like that, huge deal. Same here, they go back

00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:42.339
to their roots with Blue and Lonesome. Yeah,

00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.599
fantastic blues covers album, raw, authentic,

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:47.960
Eric Clapton played on a couple of tracks, went

00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.000
straight to number one in the UK, showed they

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:51.819
could still top the charts just playing the music

00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:53.400
they first fell in love with. And even in the

00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:56.799
last few years, still making news. New music,

00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.519
but also a huge loss. The pandemic hit, obviously,

00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:02.099
postponed the no filter tour, but they released

00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:04.839
Living in a Ghost Town in April 2020, finished

00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.160
it in isolation. It actually went to number one

00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.160
in Germany, made them the oldest artists ever

00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.839
to top the German singles chart. That's incredible.

00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.319
And they set another record in 2020. With the

00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.019
goats head soup reissue, yeah. Made them the

00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:19.039
first artists ever to have a number one album

00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.880
in the UK across six different decades. Six decades.

00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.319
Just think about that. mind -boggling longevity.

00:28:26.180 --> 00:28:29.339
But then, 2021 brought the devastating news about

00:28:29.339 --> 00:28:32.160
Charlie Watts. Yeah, passing away at 80. Such

00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.359
a huge loss. The bedrock, the quiet engine of

00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.440
the band for nearly 60 years. Stephen Jordan,

00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.380
who'd worked with Qube before, stepped in on

00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:43.099
drums. The band paid tribute to Charlie every

00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:45.789
single night on tour. But even with that loss,

00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:47.849
they were still the highest earning live act

00:28:47.849 --> 00:28:50.509
of 2021. Which brings us almost up to date with

00:28:50.509 --> 00:28:53.150
Hackney Diamonds in 2023, their first album of

00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:55.950
new original songs in ages. And what an album.

00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:58.029
Really strong reviews. It features the last two

00:28:58.029 --> 00:28:59.690
tracks Charlie ever recorded with them, which

00:28:59.690 --> 00:29:02.450
is incredibly poignant. And Bill Wyman came back

00:29:02.450 --> 00:29:05.130
to play bass on one track after 30 years away.

00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.279
And look at the guests, Paul McCartney, Elton

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.460
John, Lady Gaga, Stevie Wonder. Just incredible.

00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.900
The single Angry with Sydney Sweeney in the video

00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:16.759
got huge buzz. They can still command attention

00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.400
like nobody else. And they're already talking

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.240
about more. Seems like it. Jagger hinted a follow

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.140
up might be mostly done. Ronnie Wood confirmed

00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:27.660
plans for more music, more touring in 2025. They

00:29:27.660 --> 00:29:30.059
just don't stop. OK, act five. Let's try and

00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:33.009
unpack why. Why do they matter so much? What's

00:29:33.009 --> 00:29:35.690
the fabric of their sound, their impact, that

00:29:35.690 --> 00:29:37.730
ancient art of weaving thing Keith talks about?

00:29:37.869 --> 00:29:40.549
Right. Musically, their genius is partly that

00:29:40.549 --> 00:29:44.109
ability to just soak up everything blues, R &B,

00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:47.390
country, psychedelia, reggae, dance, world music,

00:29:47.390 --> 00:29:50.170
and make it sound like the Stones. Brian Jones

00:29:50.170 --> 00:29:53.210
was key early on with the sitar, dulcimer, bringing

00:29:53.210 --> 00:29:55.869
in those textures. They basically defined hard

00:29:55.869 --> 00:29:58.490
rock, didn't they? That gritty blues -based sound.

00:29:58.690 --> 00:30:00.960
Yeah, but always with that swing. That Wyman

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.720
-Watts rhythm section was crucial, strong, but

00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:05.880
subtle with that kind of loose feel. Driven by

00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.400
their influences Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, and

00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.539
Charlie Watts' jazz background. Exactly. Watts

00:30:10.539 --> 00:30:12.740
wasn't a typical rock drummer. That jazz sensibility

00:30:12.740 --> 00:30:14.420
gave them a unique groove. And then you have

00:30:14.420 --> 00:30:17.259
the guitars, Richard's ancient art of weaving.

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.660
Explain that a bit more. It's not just lead and

00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:23.339
rhythm. No, it's more like two guitars talking

00:30:23.339 --> 00:30:26.559
to each other, intertwining. Richards often sets

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.779
the rhythm and the other guitar weaves around

00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:30.700
it. sometimes it's hard to tell who's playing

00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:35.460
what, creates this dense rhythmic tapestry, very

00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:39.059
distinctive, and often the band follows Keith's

00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:42.500
guitar rhythm more than the drums, which is unusual.

00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.660
And Keith's use of open tunings is key to that

00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:48.259
sound. Absolutely fundamental. Open E, open D,

00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.559
but especially that five string open G tuning,

00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.559
taking off the bottom string, tuning the rest

00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.539
G, D, G, B, D. It gives you that thick, resonant,

00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.039
slightly dirty chord sound you hear on Honky

00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.259
Tonk Women, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, countless

00:31:00.259 --> 00:31:02.509
others. It's his sound. And the studio was pretty

00:31:02.509 --> 00:31:04.390
fluid, too, people swapping instruments. Yeah,

00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:06.630
they weren't rigid about roles. Best musicians

00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:08.470
popping in, band members maybe playing different

00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:10.769
things, kept it fresh, layered. And through it

00:31:10.769 --> 00:31:13.309
all, you have Jagger, the template for the rock

00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:16.170
frontman, charismatic, provocative. He just changed

00:31:16.170 --> 00:31:19.009
the game. And that Jagger Richards dynamic, controlled

00:31:19.009 --> 00:31:21.849
madness. That's Keith's phrase for it. Mick is

00:31:21.849 --> 00:31:25.069
the controller, and I'm the madness. that tension,

00:31:25.190 --> 00:31:27.369
that push and pull between them. Maybe that's

00:31:27.369 --> 00:31:29.950
the secret sauce right there. It fuels the creativity

00:31:29.950 --> 00:31:32.609
even when it gets rough. Beyond the studio, their

00:31:32.609 --> 00:31:35.230
live shows became legendary spectacles. How did

00:31:35.230 --> 00:31:37.529
that evolve? Well, they went from tiny clubs

00:31:37.529 --> 00:31:40.329
where Jagger could barely move to halls, then

00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:43.730
arenas, then just massive stadiums. That 1969

00:31:43.730 --> 00:31:47.109
US tour was pivotal. Jagger called it a watershed

00:31:47.109 --> 00:31:49.490
because that's when they figured out how to properly

00:31:49.490 --> 00:31:52.750
amplify and light shows for huge venues. They

00:31:52.750 --> 00:31:55.450
basically invented Arena Rock logistics. Making

00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:58.269
sure everyone could see and hear. Exactly. And

00:31:58.269 --> 00:32:00.750
the stages got more and more elaborate, giant

00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:03.410
mirrors in 72, the Lotus stage that opened up

00:32:03.410 --> 00:32:07.029
in 75, inflatable props, circus tricks even.

00:32:07.230 --> 00:32:10.049
Huh. Inflatable penises. They weren't subtle.

00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:13.069
Not always. Then the huge stadium designs in

00:32:13.069 --> 00:32:16.089
the 80s with runways, moving sections, big screens,

00:32:16.450 --> 00:32:18.589
all designed to connect with those massive crowds.

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:20.750
Charlie Watts had that great quote about needing

00:32:20.750 --> 00:32:22.950
gimmicks so they didn't just look like ants on

00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:26.809
stage. Perfectly put. Fireworks, lights, theater.

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:30.160
It became part of the experience bridging that

00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.579
physical distance and huge stadium. And the Rio

00:32:32.579 --> 00:32:34.579
show pushed that to the absolute limit. Yeah,

00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.140
needing relay speakers down a 2 .5 kilometer

00:32:37.140 --> 00:32:39.940
beach just to keep the sound in sync for a million

00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:43.119
people. That's just incredible technical ambition

00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.720
driven by their massive appeal. So pulling it

00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.339
all together, their enduring legacy, why do they

00:32:49.339 --> 00:32:51.829
still resonate? Well, the longevity itself is

00:32:51.829 --> 00:32:54.529
astounding. Nobody survives like the world's

00:32:54.529 --> 00:32:57.029
greatest rock and roll band, as one critic said.

00:32:57.390 --> 00:33:00.750
The sales figures are insane. Over 250 million

00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:03.269
albums, most top 10 albums ever in the U .S.

00:33:03.390 --> 00:33:05.869
for any artist. Fourth bestselling group ever

00:33:05.869 --> 00:33:08.210
in the U .K. Just huge numbers, sustained over

00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:09.869
decades. But it's more than sales, right? They

00:33:09.869 --> 00:33:11.869
change culture. Definitely. They were in the

00:33:11.869 --> 00:33:14.230
vanguard, bringing black American music blues

00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:17.269
R &B to a massive global white audience in a

00:33:17.269 --> 00:33:19.789
new way. Muddy Waters himself said his record

00:33:19.789 --> 00:33:22.029
sales went up after the Stones hit. They helped

00:33:22.029 --> 00:33:24.569
America rediscover its own roots in a way. And

00:33:24.569 --> 00:33:26.789
they stood up for things early on. Civil rights?

00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:30.039
Yeah, refusing to play segregated venues back

00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.779
in the 60s, writing it into contracts. That rebellious

00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:36.559
image often had a progressive edge. Rolling Stone

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.500
magazine called them the great rock and roll

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:41.619
rhythm section of our time. High praise and deserved.

00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.240
And Stephen Van Zand had that great point about

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.119
Jagger's vocals, that adult sex, conversational

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.640
quality, opening doors for singers who weren't

00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.160
traditional crooners, made different kinds of

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.359
voices acceptable on pop radio. They were business

00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.579
innovators too. Absolutely, changed the whole

00:33:56.579 --> 00:34:00.279
model. Owning masters, their own label, pioneering

00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.710
stadium tours, merchandising. They turned rock

00:34:03.710 --> 00:34:06.630
and roll into a multi -billion dollar global

00:34:06.630 --> 00:34:09.250
business. They wrote the playbook, really. And

00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:11.130
that constant reinvention. Rich Cohen called

00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:13.909
it five stylistic iterations. They just kept

00:34:13.909 --> 00:34:16.090
changing. So many times that they might as well

00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:19.090
be immortal, he wrote. From blues purists to

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:22.570
psychedelic hard rock disco. They absorbed it

00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:24.889
all but always sounded like themselves. Dangerous

00:34:24.889 --> 00:34:28.210
and vital even now. The awards, the accolades,

00:34:28.510 --> 00:34:31.010
Hall of Fame, Grammys, even Fossils and a rock

00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:33.039
on Mars named after them. Yeah, Rolling Stones

00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.480
rock on Mars. The recognition is immense from

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.219
official honors like UK stamps and coins for

00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:41.820
their 60th to quirky stuff like that. It shows

00:34:41.820 --> 00:34:44.500
how deeply embedded they are in culture. And

00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:46.880
that stat about topping the UK charts in six

00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.400
different decades just speaks for itself. It

00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.780
really does. Unprecedented. So from those kids

00:34:51.780 --> 00:34:53.920
at Dartford station sharing a love for the blues

00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.440
to just... global icons. They've navigated everything,

00:34:57.739 --> 00:35:00.260
lineup changes, legal battles, internal wars,

00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:02.480
changing tastes, and always come back to that

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.400
raw energy. It's an incredible story. Passion,

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:07.880
resilience, a fierce commitment to rock and roll,

00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.480
and somehow it still connects generation after

00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.039
generation. That authenticity maybe mixed with

00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.039
that controlled madness just keeps defying the

00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.260
odds. So as they're still making music, still

00:35:18.260 --> 00:35:21.460
planning tours, what is it really? What allows

00:35:21.460 --> 00:35:24.300
artists like the Stones to just defy age, defy

00:35:24.300 --> 00:35:27.079
genres, stay so vital for 60 plus years. What

00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.219
can we learn from their journey about collaboration,

00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:31.139
about resilience, even when things get incredibly

00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:33.539
tough, like World War III? It makes you think,

00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.059
doesn't it? We definitely encourage you to dive

00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:38.460
back into their music, go back to the start,

00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.139
listen to the blues guys who inspired them, or

00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:43.239
watch one of those amazing concert films, Shine

00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.000
a Light, Gimme Shelter. With the Stones, there's

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.960
always more to discover, more layers to peel

00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:48.300
back.
