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The Club is in the best place to find a lover so the bar is where I go

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Me and my friends at the table doing shots, drink it fast and then we talk slow

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You come over and start up a conversation with just me and trust me I'll give it a chance

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Now I'll take my hand, stop, put the van on the men in the jukebox and then we start to dance

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And now I'm singing like girl you know I want your love, your love is handmade for somebody like me

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Come on down, follow my lead, I may be crazy, don't find me, say boy let's not talk too much

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Grab all my way snow, put that body on me, come on now follow my lead now

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Come on now follow my lead

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That's awesome guys, that's awesome, thank you so much, that was amazing, that sounded great

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Oh goodness Ed Sheeran, watch out, I like someone that doesn't know their style

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He loves it, he loves it

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Guys thank you so much for being on the show, this is amazing, you are our first guest from Greece

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Oh thanks for having us, glad to be here

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Thanks for having us

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And I love your posts, I love what's going on and first of all I love that you guys are doing what you're doing

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and we're going to get into all that, we're going to talk all about that

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But I just want to introduce everybody, so Greg is on the right side and then Crystal is on the left side right

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And I'm just going to introduce everybody when they're watching it and they know who's who, right

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And then I'm in the middle on my side, that's all it is, so you guys are in, is it pronounced Manny or Manny or how's it pronounced in Greece?

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You explain it, the little peninsula on the Peloponnesian middle, like the peninsula there is Manny

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That's what I thought, I thought there was a little bit of a Greek thing, yeah totally

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So I didn't want to butcher it by saying Manny, you know what I mean, it's not, it's Manny

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Alright so we've got the two guys, their Instagram handle is the number two guys.in.greece

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And we're going to have this chat, which I've got a number of questions to ask about you guys building or renovating a 200 year old house in Greece

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Both, both, yeah, it's a build-in of renovation too

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Yeah that's right, you guys are expanding it, so it's like, are you both from, where are you guys originally from?

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I grew up in Vancouver, but I'm a third generation Greek in Vancouver, so with heritage I have roots down in the deeper into Manny

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From Sparta and Corinth as well

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So I came out here, I served in the military and ended up being in Calamata and we would come out here for vacations all the time

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And Greg fell in love with Greece too, and we went out here, even though he's full straight up Canadian

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100% Canadian, from Vancouver as well? No actually from a little small town, Cambridge, Ontario

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Not too far from the studio, we've had some trades from Cambridge come in and record shows in the studio, so it's all good

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So there is a Canadian connection, there's a Canadian connection going all the way to Greece

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But I knew that there had to have been some sort of family connection to that area of Greece, right?

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And that's basically where it started kind of thing?

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And Calamata is the closest city to the Manny coastline

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And so I loved it here, got a little apartment and I went vacation here

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And when I met Greg I would bring him here to vacation in Greece

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And the way we ended up here is we came here in 2020 to try and hide from COVID a bit

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And we went on a little road trip down the Manny coastline and Greg saw all these stone towers and stone buildings and he's like

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Are you gonna buy me a stone house? You're gonna buy me a stone house?

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Yeah, there's actually something, I mean I've seen stone houses in Canada, like they exist but they're not the same

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There's something magical about a stone house here and it's just, especially along the coast here, it's literally the only kind of style it helps you see

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But it doesn't match what most of us think about Greece, you know, with the white houses and the concrete or the, you know, the white and blue, like rooftops and such

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From the island, so it's a very different rustic kind of look, which I fell in love with, I think it's amazing

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So basically you had the light bulb moment first, so you came up with the idea of why not tackle this that we've never done before

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Yeah, I, exactly, I don't think we intended to buy something that was this in need of love and repair

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But I mean, we're, I like to think we're young, we don't have a huge cash flow, so picking up a house on the side of a mountain for the price we did

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It was totally overgrown

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Yeah, like a jungle, like an absolute jungle, so you can imagine most tourists coming in to see this place

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We're just like, no, not touching this, and then we looked at it and we're like, we could cut these trees, that's fine

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And we fell in love, the house was like full of old artifacts, like the old like old loom and all the things like in the old the hope chests and stuff

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From back in the day and the view was just amazing, and then the style, the house the way it's built, it is very specific to the Mani Peninsula

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The way they would build, it was like a fortification, the way the towers, the tiny little windows up top was for protection because the families would actually have vendettas against each other

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To attack each other and stuff, so there's some pretty aggressive history, but Greece is very out of that part of the history as well too

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That's what I loved when I started looking at some of the videos and images, I mean because I'm a Soryan, right? So I'm from the Azores

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And that's why I'm so intrigued by what you guys are doing because it's on my list of things to do and I'm trying to figure out how to do it myself

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Because I can see the narrow roadways, I can see the difficulties, but also when you climb all those little steps and you get to certain heights, you turn around

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So I was like, it's not that bad, we can do it, you know, and we tried to do a little bit of our research, we found an engineer before buying it

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But just, you know, realtor's in Greece, that's a whole other project

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So that's what I wanted to get into this whole world, like was that, let's start from the beginning, was it a challenge to actually purchase the property?

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Was it a challenge to just get that ball?

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There is absolutely no way, just in my own world, I mean, maybe it's navigatable by other expats and other people visiting, but it is a very different experience here

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Like most, there's still a family-oriented culture here, so all properties belong to a family who has many children and many grandchildren and many great-grandchildren and as soon as one passes away, you're having to put those pieces back together and really, I mean, this happens in Canada as well

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The realtor basically was just like, give you a deposit, give you a deposit now, like you're gonna lose the place, you know, give you a deposit, and luckily we had a great lawyer and the lawyer was like, whoa, everybody hold up, like, let's do our research

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We're not giving a euro and Greg, very emotional guy, I love him to death, but very emotional, he's like, we have to give our deposit, we're gonna lose the house

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Get rid of the Canadian side of way of doing things, right?

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Yeah, so I was trying to get you to remember, I wanted this house

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Yes, I get it, I get it

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So I'm trying to be like more of the, like, let's be logical, I'm working with the lawyer and our lawyer did all his research and he actually found out that it's not one property

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It was actually two properties, and the second property was actually in multiple names with the owner and his daughter, and the second property was declared an unbuildable land, unusable land

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And there was also an illegal extension onto the 200 year old stone tower with another stone extension, and that extension was never declared, it was illegal, and it also was right on top of the middle of the two property lines

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So it was a bit messy, but I do have to, you know, we've heard horror stories in Greece of like eight, ten years for paperwork and sales and things, our lawyers were awesome

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They got everything sorted out within about two and a half months over Christmas from like end of October till early February 2021, and we got it all figured out

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And also when the way they did the paperwork and all that was that the first property was able to absorb the second property so we would be able to gain the FSR on it

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So it would be deemed buildable, which was great, because otherwise it would have been useless to us, and where we're doing the big extension now is actually technically where that second property was

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So luckily for the good planning and all that, and then when we went to go, the old contracts when we sat there, I don't know if you saw on our Instagram but Greg did a little timeline, we had like 38 pages of signing documents

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Yeah, the contract is all old school, so it's literally like this property, neighboring by this person, this person, which has a big boulder on the northwest side, and a wooden oven, and a 21 cubic meter water reservoir, so it's all descriptive

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Written word for word to describe, there's no picture of the property, it's a description, a full novel on the property

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And then fast forward to 2022, so we have that part of the contract, and then there's addendums to the contract because now it's 2022, Greece is like fully jumped into the new age, it also had 54 GPS waypoints attached to that description from the previous contract

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So it's like this whole package to make sure that this is our property now

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So in Mani there, the town hall, I mean how big is the city or how big is the village? How many people are there?

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It's not even a village actually, it's a settlement

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That's what I figured, okay

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So I mean, is it like someone's been keeping a track of all the homes there and what they've done to them and how it's been

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There's actually a village deeper into Mani which had the archive paperwork, so our lawyer had to like drive down the coastline and it's a very mountainous region

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Actually Greece is 80% mountainous, a lot of people don't realize that

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So our lawyer had to drive all the way down, retrieve the paperwork, go redeclarate the paperwork at this like office at some village, another 40 minutes down the coast to a bigger village that was housing that paperwork

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Okay, so now you guys own the property and now

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We own it on the paperwork and digital stuff too

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Okay, and now you've got this home that's been nothing for 50 years

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And obviously parts of it fallen apart, I mean I saw you guys rebuilding the one wall there, I know you guys talked a lot about the tower

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I don't know how far along you guys are with the tower or where the work is, I saw some of the renderings

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But now, I mean what did that feel for you guys when you first took ownership of the property

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And you guys walk into this house and the amount of history and now what you guys want to do it for yourselves, right? How does that feel?

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Incredible, actually it's funny to look back now because the amount, we instantly were like this is our new home, we can't live in it, it doesn't have heat or running water

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We don't even know where the toilet would flush to and yet we swept the floors

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We went to the hardware store

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We knew the place, we started, we went to the hardware store probably for the first time in our lives to buy like actual hardware

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Like sorry, actual equipment to like cut trees and you know it was a weird experience

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But we did it so that we could walk around the property and actually start to explore it a little bit more

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But mostly just to be able to be on it without a tree poking you in the face

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So we got it to a point where we could walk on this to find out that we had an arborist come in and like wipe out all the trees

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We were laughing because we were like, the amount of work it took us the weeks and weeks of shopping and cutting and scratching ourselves with

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Yeah, it was wild to have this guy just in two or three days just clear the land

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Was it difficult? Because I mean these were very mature olive trees that you guys were cutting

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Yeah, also because the settlement is actually on like a little caldera like so it's sort of like a bowl shaped

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So a lot of the trees for 40 or someone is they were fighting for light so they were like 40, 50 foot tall olive trees going on a 45 degree angle

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So the arborist was like we have to cut these back significantly they're dangerous

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They're like the weight on them, you know, you're gonna be ripping out walls because our property actually has 11 layers to it

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So like so they were like just really going down and we were so sags. It was so magical like to just Greg actually recorded a video of just standing there the day before they started of like the birds chirping

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Just hearing like, you know, the you could hear like in the far distance and like bouncing off the other mountain is like the bells from the goats the sheep herders can hear the birds chirping

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It's just it's really cool. It's really magical. It's a different kind of quiet up there. Yeah, so we cut these trees. I mean the birds came back. Don't worry like we didn't we didn't injure too much of the habitat

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They figured it out the next season but yeah, it was it was it we had to do it. It was and now we got firewood for years. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

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So you guys get that so now you own the property. It's somewhat cleaned up. Yeah, you got to get a designer. You got to get an architect now. None of that started yet.

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No, they came while we were doing our little cleanup. We thought we were all great. We brought the engineer and one of his architects from their team and they started doing like

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But their lasers instead of measuring the property because they've never had actual plans and in the on the ground floor there's like the mountain protruding into the house, you know, the walls are like 80 centimeters thick.

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So they had to do the whole like survey and everything to be even create the original plans before we could even start planning anything.

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I don't want to get ahead of ourselves but I want to I want to you guys to describe a little bit. What's the finish house going to look like.

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But I still want to stay in where it's at right now because I have I'm very respectful of what was built. Right. But I know that you guys are going to give it care.

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You're going to modernize it. You're going to give it its flavor today, but you're still going to stay true. Like I'm hoping you guys and I'm not even demanding and I'm just asking right but I'm hoping we're forced to anyways.

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Yeah, so the government starts getting involved and because there's a lot of that stuff and I guess with communication as well with the laborers and I know that there's rules in Greece about you have to let them know who's working or how many hours they're working and you have to pay them a certain amount or like there's all these funny rules right.

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Is that exactly the case too.

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Yeah, so a little bit of like a quick synopsis is like we started making some plans. We got super excited about doing an extension because Greg and I when we cleared up a bit of the property and when the arbors cleared we're like wow this view this view is insane.

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And a little bit this settlement is actually right above Castle Cafe bar where I proposed to Greg back in 2016.

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Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm totally I forgot.

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It's happy anniversary. Like last week wasn't it.

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We.

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Yes and no technically or no.

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November 5th.

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Okay, congrats.

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Congrats. That's all.

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Thank you.

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I totally forgot.

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I was like, what am I forgetting?

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Yes, Chris, as you were saying.

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Yeah, so it's just like that view and we have so many layers for our property we're just getting more and more excited about the views to Greg and I like you know what we don't need we don't have that much money so like we want to fix up the house and we want to go up a little bit just to get a little master bedroom just something you know.

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So the first one they came up with us was actually in the front of the tower doing in more of like a kitchen and then an extra bedroom a bit higher up with a rooftop patio like great I'm just truck review.

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And then that got X because the tower existing tower is illegal for the height limits.

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It's illegal in a sense that if we were to build it today, we would not be able to.

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Yeah, right.

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So grandfathered in now.

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It's okay.

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The house is not going to be touched.

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It's just if you were to yeah, we could not reproduce that house today.

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Is it because the neighbor the neighbor would object to it.

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No, just that the actual the physical the law because you can't go more than 7.5.

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That's why okay.

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And you're right.

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The neighbor next to us there we are like next to our neighbor.

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We could probably a small then or human could go through the two properties but to house there's a 2.5 meter rule now.

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Yeah, so we can't we can't construct anything within 2.5 meters from from our neighbors.

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We're still going to go up a little bit.

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So yeah, that first that first idea got X because it was too tall couldn't touch it.

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So then we said okay, well we'll go back.

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Well we can't go back where that illegal extension was we were going to put a bedroom above that but we couldn't touch that because that extension was within 2.5 meters of the neighbors got it.

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And then the solution was let's go further back and then we're it's all free rains we can go up 7.5 meters from that natural land, which was already like four layers up, we'll get even better view.

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So that's how we ended up having the long stretch and then the tower.

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And that's why we're excavating is because behind the mountain, it was mountain like the mountain began as soon as the house ended.

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So, so in order to build this tower.

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That's where all the cord drillings happening that you guys are doing right to just break the rock there.

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Absolutely.

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But then is it traditional that you guys break the rock and then keep the rock and then use the rock.

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It is more so this is actually unheard of now.

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You know so if you if you were to go to a stone build anywhere else that's not, you know, remote like we we are on the mountain side.

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It's not too remote. It's just because we don't have a you can't drive to our house.

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You can't bring a tractor there.

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But if you were to look at any other builds, it's they're doing a concrete, you know, structure, brick around and then they're they're doing this exterior like stone wall where ours is about what three four feet of rock.

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Oh, like our walls are 80 centimeters and in the new tower there are 60 centimeter walls.

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So they're a stone, right. So no, no concrete is actually being used to build the structure at all.

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This is all just the old way the only way that they would do it in the back of the day.

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The only concrete they're using right now is is a belt around every I think it's every three meters are going to put a concrete belt around the around the the tower and and that's just to keep it to give it extra as it goes up.

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They're going to put a band.

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Oh, really? Yeah. And that's just that's from the engineer. That's just signing off from the engineer just for structural purposes.

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What was the reasoning why that one wall was bowed out? Is that just no maintenance on the wall or over the time?

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Or was it?

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So the previous owner actually had not created a new entrance.

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And when creating new entrance, they threw in some like cinder blocks and stuff like that. So it wasn't really it wasn't structured kept as well.

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And then the roof was collapsing from above as well.

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So, and then the actual the mortar and like this, the bonding binding, what they did was actually they so the stone was from the property back in the day or from the neighborhood.

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And then the binding equipment was or the actual cement that they use was actually taken from the earth. Mix with sand mixed with clay and water.

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So over the years, it just became weaker and weaker as opposed to now we're so on the old structure, they're actually like pressure washing, cleaning it out, scraping it out and then re cementing or injecting when they need to and then in the new tower,

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it's obviously going to be with their cement bonding with the stone itself and then the belt every 1.5 meters going around. But it's you won't see the belt.

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It's like within the wall.

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Right. It's the core. It's the inside of the wall. And then it's just you keep in the stone is still because you want to keep it traditional looking.

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Actually, when we I believe we, we were the ones they chose to sell the property to because they were working in other in other directions as well or at least that's what we were hearing but we asked for original photos of this house and anything they could give us to show us what the original

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state of the house look like because we have absolutely no intention to ruin the exterior. Internally, we need a modern home like we want to feel like fresh and clean but from the outside standpoint, we wanted to bring it back to its natural way.

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We have mud like I don't even know what layers existed anymore. You know, it's it's near impossible to tell just from the 40 years of growth and

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we were shoveling out like eight inches of like mud from just decomposed leaves over the years and stuff and then we're like, wow, we have a patio we have time.

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We're like excavating ourselves. Yeah, little archeologists. So how long have you guys been at it for now so if it took about two and a half months just to get the paperwork out of the way and then the first day of demo to now and then what are you guys giving yourself budget wise timeline.

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How long you figure before you guys get your completed home.

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And then we just I'd say about four months to land proper designs with the engineer and architects of the team. Because we're going back and forth no we can't do this yes no yes no, we actually have to have three meetings up with the property but it's a team of like 15 people up there because

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they're like yep it's going to be a metal structure with stone on the outside, like how Greg was saying or it's going to be cement but one a tiny stone path stone path, there's no way to bring a rig with these big metal beams to actually build a metal structure.

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And there's no way to and it was illegal to pump past a certain amount of distance with a cement pump. So the only way was, well, stone and we're going to excavate to use this part of the property anyways we're going to create the stone and use our own stone.

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So we had a company from Athens come these stone scientist things they took cores out.

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They tested our stone to make sure it was good. And then that was the drawing submitted the paperwork for what's the word in English for the permits.

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And everything got halted. We hit our first roadblock. They wanted more photos.

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So our engineers tried sending like the ugly photos of the inside and stuff, and they're like no no we want more. And they deemed the house archaeological.

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Really who's doing that? Why are they doing that?

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Just because of the age and it's protected from like it's a historical place there was a major battle against the Ottomans part of the freedom of Greece right by it. So it's a local like historic spot.

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And yes, since it was deemed archaeological, we now like we're all hands off it's what they told us what to do.

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So we had plans like some like beautiful windows with like nice balconies looking out that like nope, nope, nope, nope, you got to stick to the era.

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So budget went up almost 100,000 Canadian.

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Yeah, so it is the difference between being able to use like metal shutters. Now we're forced to use wood.

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They can't look like wood. They have to be wood.

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The interior can you can you do what you want to do on the interior still or you hands are tight.

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Yeah, interior is fine. Yeah, we can do anything as long as the exterior is the traditional way.

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And it has to be a Byzantine style clay roof with the extra scalloped underneath.

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Could you not like I mean we've done this here in Canada. Could you not have a oops moment and maybe some rocks kind of came down and now we can't we have to put a bigger window now.

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Could you not kind of do that Greek mentality.

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I'm just saying.

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That's old school Greece we tried that.

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It didn't work.

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That's old school Greek like that would work.

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I tried with our engineer and he's like nope, nope, they've gotten so strict here because of all the years of all this illegal stuff that if you do anything wrong, it must be torn down and you'll be fined annually until it is remediated.

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Okay, that's serious.

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Not worth the risk.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Everything's hardcore by the book.

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So what did you guys really lose. I guess you lost some larger windows right but aesthetically like on the outside you were already going down that path it was going to stay this way.

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Yeah, so we were never going to touch the.

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Actually, that's not entirely true. We were hardly going to touch the tower that is in place now. So that was going to stay as it was. I mean, we did lose the ability to use metal shutters and then the choice of windows.

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Where we've taken a window so that wall that you saw that was buckling and needed to be replaced.

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It actually worked in our favor because we wanted to build a way to get out under the patio.

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So we were moving the front door anyways.

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So it worked out but the size of that door that we had originally designed since we knew we were going to do this anyways.

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We had a larger we wanted like these French doors to go under a beautiful patio and now they're just, I mean they're still going to be French doors.

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It's going to one from two meters down to one point two meter door.

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They're just smaller.

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Yeah, almost half the size.

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So it's less like because when they knocked out that wall we were sending in the house and like you see the adjacent mountain and you're just like this is insane.

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Like you're just like let me stand here and look at a mountain in my face.

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Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.

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I mean I gotta ask you guys is there a little bit of resistance because technically you're Canadian but there's still some family connection there or not.

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I would just say just the sale.

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That's all it is.

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Yeah.

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The sale the owner was an old captain an old captain of sailing captain and he had two contracts in place before and he toy them up and then when they said to us when we put our offer and we were like,

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hey, we love you.

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It was uncomfortable for me.

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I could not handle it.

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Yeah.

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Gotta get rid of the Canadian.

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We went in and we're like, Hey, here's our offer.

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You know, we've fallen in love with this place.

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And if you have any photos, great, you know, and they came back and they're like, look, we said the price is not negotiable.

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We're not accepting anything below asking.

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However, since you're a young couple and you're Greek and from here and you engage in a lot of different ways,

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you know, you can look and from here and you and you love the home and you want to to like treat it like your own will gift you X amount of euros.

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And they lower the price and Greg was jumping up and down.

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He's like, Hey, great.

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And I was like, No, we're not done yet.

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Like, can I, you know, we message back or like, great, we appreciate it.

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Thank you so much.

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However, at this point in time, our financial situation is what we offered.

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That's what we can afford.

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And that was true at the time.

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And I said, we're leaving back for Canada in like three days, four days, you know, just let us know.

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And they go back to us in two days and yeah, we were able to purchase the prop or get the ball rolling on the property purchase.

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And then, yeah, so I was shocked.

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I was literally floored that this worked.

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It worked because I think the previous owner just saw something, right?

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It's no different than any other property, right?

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He probably had a feeling.

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He just said, OK, these guys will take care of this house.

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And that's what he would probably really looking forward to, right?

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So it's kind of good.

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Yeah.

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And so it's a 200 year old house.

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So has it always stayed in the same family?

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Was he the last surviving member of that family or was it, do you know of?

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Oh, he bought it back in the 1950s, 1960s.

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OK.

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So I don't know if you saw on Instagram, there's Kiri at the sea.

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Yeah, she's like our neighbor.

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She's like this 95 year old lady.

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There is a photo on her Instagram.

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Oh, you need to type this out.

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Is she the window like a window lady?

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She's always there talking to everybody through the window.

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No, but we do see her often and I don't speak a lick of, I mean, I'm learning Greek,

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but she only speaks Greek and it's, she just thinks that if she just continues to speak to me,

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it will eventually work.

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It's just so sweet.

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But one day we see her on the side, she's coming up the path and she has this two strings holding an oven.

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And we're not talking like a small, easy bake kind of like oven.

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We're talking like an oven bigger than her.

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It's on the Instagram.

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It's my favorite photo I've ever taken here.

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It's unbelievable what the lady does.

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So she doesn't live in the settlements anymore.

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She, her kids are down the mountain towards Calamata and she's scared to stay by herself,

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but she walks up and hikes up and down the mountain every day morning and night to water her garden,

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to give her plants. And the one, it was when we were first cleaning up the property in those first three weeks.

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I'm like, Greg, Greg, grab your camera.

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He said, what?

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I'm like, there's a lady with an oven on her back.

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So he missed her.

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And then like two hours later, she was coming back up the mountain.

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So Greg has a photo on our Instagram and she's there with like, like this,

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the Mani women are very famous in Greece.

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Like you don't piss off a woman from Mani.

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There's a big, big, deep history, but she told us a lot of the history about the house.

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Who built it and everything and how, you know, so we, we found out from her that all of the settlement was built by donkey.

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She owned these donkeys and would lend them to, to those who were trying to build.

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So yeah, like donkeys made this little settlement up there. It's wild.

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So how long you guys now have been at it since you guys started? How long has it been now?

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We officially received all the permits, archeology, everything was good December last year.

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So it's been 12 months, but then we had to wait because the stone workers, it's not that popular anymore.

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So we had to wait for the team to finish other projects.

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So we started on the island.

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Say again, there's only one team on the island of stone mason's.

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Yeah, there's, well, there's only one that our engineering team like recommended.

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Wow. Yeah, there was like two or three.

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But there are so many jobs because it's not that like it's not a common art anymore.

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And so we were waiting for them.

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We started in July, beginning in July with the excavation.

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And yeah, we started about a month and a half ago now actually building like we played the foundation.

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We're a little behind on our Instagram.

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Yeah, I was curious about how far along you guys have gotten.

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And then when are you guys predicting to be completed when ideally if everything works out?

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End of next year to be getting of 2024.

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That long.

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You just based on your earlier time and trying to figure things out and get all the paperwork and get everything already.

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You figured that it will take that long.

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Is it because it's going to be difficult to get the people to do the work?

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They've been pretty good. I think it's just that big of a project and so everything has to be carried up this path.

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There's no other way to bring like every bag of cement, you know, every tool.

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Can you guys raise some donkeys?

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She don't have the heart to use a donkey.

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Like I could never. How dare we?

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But yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe if we get desperate to the donkey, we'll have to step in.

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So how's that? How's that experience of speaking with the old tradespeople there and their skill?

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I'm assuming everybody there is just Greek or they are there a few that speak English as well.

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Trades, trades wise, the workers.

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So generally speaking in in Greece, English is very easy to find.

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You're always an earshot of someone who can who can at least somewhat speak the language.

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So tradespeople on the other hand are the hardest to to to, you know, have a conversation.

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Why is Chris's laughing? I don't know why.

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Funny before I'm thinking about, well, I'm just going to say so Chris is a pilot.

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He leave me.

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Oh, so then you got to figure it out.

386
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Okay.

387
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,000
I'm here for two weeks by myself of the month and that doesn't stop construction.

388
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
So so I'm still out there doing my best.

389
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:58,000
I've learned a lot of Greek because of tradespeople and I've learned that Google translated literally your best friend, but it doesn't work all the time.

390
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
It's not the greatest.

391
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Yeah, but you've got to this.

392
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,000
You've gotten this far and and you're thinking, yeah, the story with a plumber in the center.

393
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Oh, yeah.

394
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Something simple like this.

395
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:15,000
So here in this house in this we've done a renovation here in this condo that we're in right now.

396
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:23,000
And I was working with a plumber while Chris was away and he didn't speak any any English whatsoever.

397
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Just not not even he wasn't even like able to repeat after me.

398
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000
He wouldn't do it.

399
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
He was not happy to do so.

400
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,000
I use Google translate to ask him to put the sink because the sink was smaller than the the unit.

401
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000
I was just sitting on the vanity and I needed it to be in the center.

402
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
He was giving me a choice.

403
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
It could be offside to it could be to the right like left or right.

404
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
And I was like, no, I need it in the center.

405
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000
I Google translate and he just started laughing.

406
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,000
But I said it to him so I translated and I read it to him so that I could practice my Greek.

407
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:03,000
The translation I asked him to put it in the center of the city, like not not the center of the unit of the city center.

408
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,000
You know, so it's not a not a perfect science.

409
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
But he understood he understood.

410
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:15,000
And that's the point is that although it's always a good laugh, the words like, oh, yeah, I understand why you why you said that.

411
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
That's weird.

412
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
But I'll put it in the middle.

413
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:26,000
So what's the what's been the biggest challenge so far right up until this point until you guys are officially starting construction now with the foundation?

414
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,000
What what have the I guess what would have been the biggest hurdle?

415
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:42,000
This the other than the language for for my end of thing, I think if we're just to speak about the construction, it is it is the excavation of that mountain.

416
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:49,000
What a, you know, we were we were told at the beginning, it was going to be a short time three weeks, maybe.

417
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
I think we were working on that mountain for almost three months.

418
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Wow.

419
00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:02,000
And it took a very long time. So, you know, when when you're looking at the surface of the mountain, and they started using the machines, it was great rocks were flying.

420
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,000
They were creating, you know, like amazing boulders that we could use for the for the house.

421
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
As that stone got deeper.

422
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
It became harder and harder.

423
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
And what they were creating was gravel.

424
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
And you can't use that in the house.

425
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000
So it was rubble.

426
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Yeah.

427
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,000
And they they hit a point where they're like, yeah, we can't we can't do this anymore.

428
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Our engineers basically just called it like we had planned, if you remember from the renderings on the other side, there was like a patio on the new tower on the other side, like, yep, no patio.

429
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000
It's done. Yeah.

430
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
And we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, like, let's get informed decision.

431
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Let's talk to the stone workers like what's a projected timeline to extend what's and but our engineers, they know we're like, you know, very budget tight.

432
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000
So like wall across too much black wall.

433
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Now we're here.

434
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Let's figure this out.

435
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Yeah.

436
00:37:50,000 --> 00:38:05,000
So that would be the second biggest challenge, right is the working with with trades people who are trying to make decisions in your best interest, you know, that this what they're thinking, but instead we're worth the type of people who give us all of the options and let us decide.

437
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Yes.

438
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000
You know, so for them to say, yeah, you're not getting a patio anymore. Sorry.

439
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,000
We're like, no, no, no, hold the phone. Like we want to like if this is going to be an extra 10 grand.

440
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
That's our decision.

441
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
You know, if it's worth it, we'll do it.

442
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,000
In the end, we actually said yes, we want to do it because we gained real estate from it.

443
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000
You know, it gave us an entire office in the in the tower by doing so.

444
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,000
So we continue to excavate and it held us back what three weeks.

445
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Almost a month.

446
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Almost a month.

447
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,000
So who came up with the idea of the core drilling with that expanding concrete?

448
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Was that the engineer?

449
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
The stone working stone guys.

450
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Okay.

451
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Yeah, that's pretty clever.

452
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I don't even know if they do that here.

453
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:58,000
If they actually need to do that, if we're just going to machinery it here, but I was looking at that and I was going, that's kind of clever because it actually works really well.

454
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
It was wild actually.

455
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Like the felt like a science experiment, but just I didn't get to watch them actually like do the drilling and so I was working while this happened.

456
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000
So it was kind of sad about that.

457
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,000
But just going up there, they were done an hour and a half before before I finished work.

458
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,000
I went up right after and the it was already starting to set and already starting to crack the rock.

459
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000
It was, it was wild.

460
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Yeah, I've never seen anything like it.

461
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000
I wanted to get an idea.

462
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,000
What's the square footage?

463
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Well, here, here I am in Canada and you should actually be talking square meters.

464
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:38,000
What's the square meters of the original house and what's the square meter of the new house?

465
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
How ambitious are you guys going?

466
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Yeah.

467
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:50,000
The original house was 176 square meters plus the that wine cellar, which was about another 10.

468
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
So 186 in total.

469
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,000
And then the with the extension, we're going to be just around 275 with that extra office.

470
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
So just shy of 3000 square feet.

471
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Right.

472
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000
That's a good size house.

473
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Yeah, well, especially for in Greece.

474
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
In Greece.

475
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Yeah.

476
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,000
So you're inside of a mountain right next to it or in a mountain. Yes.

477
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Wow.

478
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
So that's very ambitious.

479
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
That's very, very ambitious.

480
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Yeah.

481
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:23,000
We're, we're, it's actually funny because like, so we're living down Calamata, the closest city to where the settlement to our houses.

482
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,000
And we're out for dinner once and like this one guy at a restaurant jumped up and he's like two guys in Greece.

483
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,000
And we're like, what?

484
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
What?

485
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
It's like, I follow you.

486
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
It's like, hi.

487
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
What are the odds?

488
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
I mean, you're coming up to the final celebrities almost.

489
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
So, okay.

490
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Do you guys want to walk us through what the new house is going to look like?

491
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
And, and I mean, I'm already loving the wine cellar.

492
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,000
So what else are you guys planning on throwing in there?

493
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
You know, for a drawing.

494
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Yeah.

495
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
So how do we describe this?

496
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,000
So,

497
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,400
Where do we start? Yeah, so when you when you first walk into our basement, so there's a door at the side of this house

498
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,360
When you first walk in it, I mean it was just an open basement

499
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,780
We're turning this into like an entertainment area now Greek summers hot as hell

500
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,640
No, it's not. Oh, it's not. You go under you go underground is where people go to hang out

501
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:20,560
Now that I've climatized a little bit. It's hot

502
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,360
the

503
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,220
Yeah, so downstairs will have a little bit of an entertainment area

504
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,460
Um, just to just to relax

505
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:34,900
We're planning to turn what was a kitchen in the basement into a just a small bedroom

506
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:40,940
And that's where the wine cellar is attached to so they're gonna repair that wine cellar. It leaks right now

507
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:45,420
We're gonna repair that wine cellar and and make use of it actually so

508
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:50,380
May even try we found grapes on our property. So we may actually try

509
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,660
Creating our own wine one year. How many vines how many vines you guys have?

510
00:41:54,660 --> 00:42:01,020
Well, we were sad because there was this big vine where we're actually constructing the the tower

511
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:05,340
So it got destroyed. Maybe it'll come back. We'll find it. I don't know

512
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:07,340
It might it might still be there

513
00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:12,300
But while we were standing there one day we're like holy there's there's vines coming down over these streets

514
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:17,580
Great, so it's great somewhere up in the mountain coming down. So and we actually ate some this year

515
00:42:17,580 --> 00:42:22,740
They were they're quite good back. So yeah, we'll take a stab at creating our own wine if they survive

516
00:42:22,740 --> 00:42:28,620
If not, we'll we'll just plant some more and do it ourselves, but what I'm excited is for we got 22 olive trees and

517
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:35,380
Yeah, last winter we went to our friends property and we helped harvest the olives and then take it to the press and everything

518
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:39,500
And right that's what I'm really excited about to go back to the house the

519
00:42:40,820 --> 00:42:44,180
When you first walk in there's there's actually no way to the second floor

520
00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:49,740
So you leave the house to come up the stairs outside to get to the top floor of that house

521
00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:55,260
So we're building a staircase as soon as you walk into the home to to get you to the second level

522
00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:57,260
So we don't have to go outside anymore

523
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,620
So that'll get us to to connect the house all together

524
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:05,900
As far as the living room we're just yeah, we're trying to keep it all open

525
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,140
As much as an open concept as possible

526
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:15,820
What's getting added into the main area of the house is a we're adding a washroom just before the kitchen

527
00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:22,020
So that'll be interesting with wash we have a we have a couple things happening in the the tower right now

528
00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:26,460
We have a planned bathroom in the new tower that we're building and they're they're a little bit worried about

529
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:31,660
Making sure those pipes flow downhill, which seems very important to me

530
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,500
Gravity, you know doesn't it work that way?

531
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:39,660
Yeah, well, I think it's we're on like some super flat land right now, and I don't know

532
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,140
I don't know if that was an oversight or if

533
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:44,620
you know that

534
00:43:44,620 --> 00:43:48,380
Maybe you guys can always get an injector. I mean

535
00:43:49,020 --> 00:43:51,020
That that could that will work automatically

536
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,820
Yeah, just what they were talking about adding like an extra pump or something for the shower

537
00:43:55,820 --> 00:44:00,740
So basically like back here in at home if you were to underpin a property and your

538
00:44:01,220 --> 00:44:04,620
Waste line is lower the new waist line is lower than the city

539
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:10,500
You would put in a pump an injector and it actually shoots all of your waste upwards and then out

540
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:15,420
So I'm assuming that it's available there. Yeah

541
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:19,060
They were talking about that for the one potential shower in the new tower

542
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:22,580
See that was the only thing that wouldn't have the actual proper

543
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:25,540
Khaleesi that proper

544
00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:27,620
Angle that they require. Yeah

545
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:29,380
Yeah

546
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,380
So all this all this construction stuff's all in Greek

547
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:36,780
I know to translate it. I trust me. I would be lost too

548
00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:42,060
I mean we try to figure out if I saw the parts on the top site. I would be able to just point to it

549
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:44,980
I would just that right there that right there that goes right there. That's good

550
00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:50,580
Yeah, you think you know another second language until you're renovating like this apartment that we're living in now

551
00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:54,180
We renovated last summer and like things I had to learn was like

552
00:44:54,780 --> 00:44:57,820
Baseboard I would never think to know the word baseboard in Greek

553
00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,620
I just like random

554
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:05,580
Or like the little things that you put in between tiles the the spacers. Yes a special word for those like right

555
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:08,260
Yeah, what is the Greek word for baseboard?

556
00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:11,460
So fat oh pee

557
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:14,180
So fat oh pee it

558
00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:20,980
So fat oh pee oh so fat the pee okay. All right. That's a pretty long word for for baseboard

559
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:28,220
But now that we know it as cool. Yeah, is there's quite often actually is there shoe mold on the baseboard no shoe mold

560
00:45:29,540 --> 00:45:31,660
No

561
00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:38,220
So I wanted to get an idea so what when you guys were coming up with the design was it originally from you guys and then you

562
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:44,140
Were just off loading all the design ideas to the engineer and the architect and then they would kind of translate it for you

563
00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:48,860
And then come back and go okay based on your bucket here. This is what it's gonna really look like I

564
00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:56,460
Think what you described as the ladder is what they wanted us to be like is like they wanted us to just tell the story

565
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:58,460
They go back and ask oh yay. That was great

566
00:45:58,460 --> 00:46:03,300
Um, Christos is not capable of that. He's very involved and I

567
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:10,820
Would say although their hands made the three could 3d conceptuals and built this AutoCAD drawing that we can all now enjoy

568
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:16,460
You know it did I was Christos going like move that wall move this window

569
00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:21,620
You know, it's a yeah, it it was good though

570
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:24,420
I think I think we we had a lot of great debates

571
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:31,580
Yeah, a lot of them like sitting in the engineering off the engineers office and just you know, we would we would dream big

572
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:36,820
They would try to scale us back of course, right? Like, you know Pinterest, I guess has ruined

573
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:40,620
Lives for many many people in those positions. Yeah

574
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:43,220
You know, we're showing pictures of like

575
00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:48,340
What like 16 foot pieces of glass and like we want half of our stone exposed

576
00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:52,540
But glass to be you know to be the corner of our of our tower

577
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:55,620
so we could you know, it looked broken almost and

578
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:59,460
That's something we stole from Pinterest and then they're like absolutely not and

579
00:47:00,260 --> 00:47:02,940
We didn't get to say this but our house has to be

580
00:47:04,220 --> 00:47:07,540
They have to be able to prove it's a plus energy

581
00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:11,460
I was gonna ask you guys about that because you're conscious of that, right?

582
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:17,180
Yeah, yeah, and the energy prices here insane compared to Canada

583
00:47:17,180 --> 00:47:24,340
So that's one thing we were really sad about we were really pushing really fighting to have all the exposed stone on the inside of the house

584
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:31,860
We love that and we're not allowed. There's no way we tried to like, you know putting an air then get a than a glass wall

585
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:36,300
Something no no the only thing we got is if there's any internal walls

586
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:42,380
That have both internal rooms were allowed to have the exposed stone there. That's the only thing we got

587
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:45,900
What's the reason why you're not allowed to keep it exposed?

588
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:52,060
The European Union energy ratings on the house have to have a certain amount of heat

589
00:47:52,980 --> 00:47:57,700
Heat loss calculations. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, okay

590
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:04,700
But can we go back in time when they kind of stuck a fork in the road regarding the historical angle of things?

591
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:09,700
Could you not use that as leverage and say we're kind of trying to I don't know

592
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,940
I don't know. I'm just saying like you can't ask us to be

593
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:19,740
Historical and then tell us to be updated mechanically like we gotta have a compromise here

594
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:23,740
Give us one wall. Give us one wall exposed. Yeah, I don't know

595
00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:27,180
I'm just trying to say one a slight compromise in the basement in the basement

596
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:30,860
We got a bit of like a like a fake crack of like the

597
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:35,820
White it'll go plaster it'll be plaster and then it'll

598
00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:42,940
Extend away trying to make it look like it and that took that was like a good hour where we like our engineering team

599
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:47,900
They're like good cop bad cop, which is kind of great because you see them sort of like debate each other and like challenge each other

600
00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:51,860
Which is great and then the the

601
00:48:52,580 --> 00:48:57,620
Architect lady that was doing the plans she had like the nice finishing touches on things like we're like, yeah

602
00:48:57,620 --> 00:49:01,740
This is you know, and then she's like well wait like if you're gonna walk in this is you know, she had just the extra

603
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:09,140
So very very yeah awesome, but yeah a lot of good cop bad cop and then us trying to

604
00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:14,260
Talk to one of them separately or whatever to get them to talk and to make things work. Yeah

605
00:49:14,580 --> 00:49:17,780
So what are they? I guess how are they?

606
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:20,780
Let's let's talk a little bit of boring

607
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:24,380
Mechanically speaking what are they asking you to do now?

608
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:28,900
I mean because you still have to I guess technically heat the home and you also have to a see the home

609
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:32,260
Or you're not allowed to a see the home. So how is that coming along?

610
00:49:34,060 --> 00:49:37,500
We're still in the process. So either it's gonna be splits

611
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:44,180
In the rooms or we're going to there's the one downside to it is because we're gonna keep the vaulted open

612
00:49:44,820 --> 00:49:47,900
Ceiling in the existing home makes it difficult to do

613
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:50,740
60 30 months a

614
00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:56,900
Heat pump. Yes for the whole the whole two towers. However, it would be exposed

615
00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:04,620
Like the metal all the piping. I know which looks like I haven't decided quite on that what we're what we're going to do

616
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,780
Yeah, you could encase it in stone

617
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:10,700
But that's just more stone work

618
00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:16,740
Yeah, and wait and wait. Yeah, we're lucky that we also we're gonna have a fireplace

619
00:50:17,260 --> 00:50:24,240
In the main tower and then in our bedroom upstairs the Grandmaster bedroom. So they're letting you build a wood burning fireplace

620
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:32,000
Yeah, yeah, that's totally good here. We also have a wood a wood oven outside on the property to make like bread and things like that

621
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,320
Yeah, see I be I'd be challenging it

622
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,440
But then again, you're challenging a system that's gonna

623
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Constomp on you when you're there, right? I'd be challenging it because fireplaces are the worst thing you can do when you want to try to

624
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,960
Be energy efficient like it's it's very pretty. It smells amazing. I personally would love it

625
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,720
But it does hurt your overall heat loss. It hurts your energy efficiency. It hurts all of that

626
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,120
But if they're allowing that why can't you allow the stone?

627
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,720
I would keep on making an argument for the stone

628
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:03,960
But you guys know the government they're better than I do you don't want to piss them off that much to the point where well

629
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,960
We'll just put a stop on this

630
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Or take Greg's PR card away, which is even worse exactly, right? So then it's like one guy in Greece one guy in a boat

631
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,120
You don't want that

632
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,720
But so where is all I'm just trying to get an idea of where you guys I guess

633
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:32,880
All the finished material all your I guess you're you're hard with flooring your tiling your cabinetry

634
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Where is that all coming from is that all you guys are keeping it all in house on the island?

635
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Is it all coming from Greece or you guys looking abroad for that?

636
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,480
We're lucky that Calamata is because there's a brand new highway that connects Athens to Mani

637
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,640
So we're very close like we're within 20 minute drive into Calamata

638
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,840
And because that's a decent city that there's a lot of the chains that has all the Greek stuff

639
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,480
so we can get we can get the fancy Italian like

640
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Taps and stuff for the bathroom and the finishings and then you know the Spanish tiles in the porcelain and

641
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,120
you know the Greek solar hot water tanks and

642
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:12,280
And then there's the Greek my card where the kitchen companies for the mill work and the and the closets

643
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,880
And we had like with this apartment. We had like a little like dry run almost

644
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,160
So we have a lot of contacts already and and everything

645
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,760
Yeah, so is it also true that

646
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Even if you guys do most of the work yourself, you still have to log hours. Is that a fact with Greece construction?

647
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,080
Hmm, I haven't heard of that they

648
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:39,800
We're not physically doing any of all we have to do on our end because it's controlled through our engineers

649
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,800
They are they're they're doing

650
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:49,840
They're doing some extra stuff that we're not fully fully aware of but we have technically Chris and I are listed as their employers

651
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,040
So therefore we had to buy insurance for them

652
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,160
Every day that they work it has to be declared

653
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,920
So we're paying something happens. Oh

654
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,560
We're paying like their CPP and their Greek equivalent of like CPP and EI

655
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Contributions, so we're like declaring the amount of people that come their hours

656
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,800
Yeah, and then we have to at the end of the month pay a bill to the government for their hours and for what they do

657
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Right and then their

658
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,480
Like their workers comp as well. So

659
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,400
So there is that kind of there's a little bit of a gray area

660
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,560
I guess when it comes to physically whoever's doing the work and how it's all you got to buy by the rules, right?

661
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,960
Like there's all these little today make you aware of these rules or you guys just discovered them as you break them

662
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,040
But both

663
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,160
That's how I would do it. I would discover them as I break them. That's it. I didn't know right play that card

664
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,160
It would work for a while

665
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,680
This lap on the wrist. Yeah, I was doing like we like we knew in the whole budget and stuff

666
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,400
But like our engineers were like all of a sudden like oh, we need your tax number and you're like

667
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,520
Logins and we're like, well, yeah, I'm coming back from Canada in a week. No, no, like we got to pay the first bill in three days

668
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,480
I'm like, well, what bill like so it was included in their big budget

669
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,560
They gave us but then like explain like we're gonna have to do this every month

670
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:12,080
So that was a little bit of a learning process for us to like go in and navigate online banking for these government associations and stuff

671
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,160
and with these like verification codes and everything and

672
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,440
so

673
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,800
I don't want to get too much into your business on the financial side, but is this

674
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,800
project for you guys

675
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,840
Is it more or less expensive to do it in there than it would be in Canada?

676
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Oh, it's a good question. I

677
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:37,000
would say now let's factor in the view and the environment and the mental health and

678
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,400
longevity and the happiness I guess

679
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:49,400
And the happiness like factor all that shit in there. All right. Yeah, let's let's just say all all in all in like purchase

680
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,560
Renault is everything

681
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,360
The cost not the value after but the cost everything will be less than a

682
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:01,720
Apartment downtown Vancouver. Wow

683
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,000
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, but

684
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Yeah, the the view alone the property the house when it's done like we're gonna put a pool in it's gonna sleep 12

685
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
It's gonna be like a Greek villa

686
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,160
You know with our olives and our grapes and our lemon trees and everything. It's wait a minute

687
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,160
They're putting it putting a pool into

688
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Yeah, they're they allowed that I don't understand how they allowed that

689
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,680
Lupo

690
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,520
Yeah, we did the Greek thing

691
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:40,080
It's a compact pool like a prefabricated pool. Yeah, and if it's a prefabricated pool

692
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,440
It does not have to be included onto the permits. It only has to be included on to the final

693
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560
occupancy permit

694
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,160
So then we're good with that

695
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,800
So we don't get this beautiful infinity pool that we wanted it's gonna be a prefabricated one

696
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,440
But then we're gonna encase it in like stone after to make it look more part of the property

697
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:05,720
You could be creative and with certain stonework and the way the pool is positioned even though it's a prefab

698
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,880
It could look like infinity if you're kind of creative a little bit. Just take a little bit of effort

699
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,560
That's all yeah, I got a look a bit more into it and

700
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,640
We've been on our Instagram game trying to find some like cool pools on properties and stuff to

701
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:25,760
Make a plan. I love that you guys are using and I know that a lot of the traits that I did see on the feed

702
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,080
They were mostly of the older generation because they're that's who's doing the work

703
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:36,720
But I love that you got guys pulling up plumbabs and they're using old-school tools and and I love that they're building a

704
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,480
They're restoring an old house with that same old technology

705
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,480
That's been tried and tested how many decades centuries and it just works, right?

706
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,760
I mean is that are you guys in awe when you see them show up on site and they're

707
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:55,680
They're pulling out these things that you're like, what is that? And I don't understand how that works. They're a laser. Yeah, no laser

708
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,480
Even like just picking up a stone like we're seeing a big pile of rocks

709
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,960
I'm like, okay, cool and the one like one of the workers like picks up a stone and

710
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:09,320
He grinks takes a hammer to goes one two three four and he puts it and it perfectly fits the spot

711
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,420
That he was gonna place it on this new wall and I'm just like

712
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:20,620
My well even the things that they are thinking about that we probably wouldn't be like the the original house that original tower

713
00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:25,220
Where they've rebuilt that side of the wall we've had to you know break down

714
00:57:25,740 --> 00:57:32,980
The stone that they're they're putting around that area is all old stone from an old house somewhere in Manny

715
00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:35,380
He went and he found it

716
00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:38,500
Without even asking us he just did it because he knew that's what he had to do

717
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:43,980
Whereas all the cornerstones for the new house, they're they're actually carving them out of marble

718
00:57:44,420 --> 00:57:46,660
to try and make them look like not a

719
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:51,140
Freshly cut stone from a perfectly like a line saw, you know, so it's

720
00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:57,740
It's fascinating like the the things they they do and the things they think about to keep the look

721
00:57:57,740 --> 00:58:02,820
It just I wouldn't have considered it. I wouldn't have thought about it. You know, it would just it's true

722
00:58:02,820 --> 00:58:08,180
And across my mind. Yeah, I mean, it's nice that I see I see some of the younger generation there paying attention

723
00:58:08,180 --> 00:58:14,220
But it's I love the consistency because all of them were not wearing any kind of safety goggles or any kind of safety protection

724
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:20,740
Listen, listen, I've always been there. Trust me even as a kid and even me as a side. No, I'm not I'm not criticizing

725
00:58:20,740 --> 00:58:26,100
I'm just saying I have these are old you all should wear your safety goggles. I know but they were chipping away

726
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,220
I was fascinated by the stone. I was like look at this guy

727
00:58:29,740 --> 00:58:35,260
Carve out this stone and then put it in a spot as if that's the spot this stone belonged to

728
00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:38,700
Right. Yeah, mind you you're gonna be wearing an eye patch next week

729
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,780
I don't I get it but that stone looks beautiful right where it's at, right?

730
00:58:41,780 --> 00:58:45,740
And they were all doing that so that's where the consistency is it but you're kind of out if I was there

731
00:58:45,740 --> 00:58:50,580
I'd be cringing I'd be like oh put some goggles on put some goggles on please. No, I know

732
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:55,900
Those working working with the stone inside but also during the excavation process

733
00:58:56,020 --> 00:59:03,700
He's out there with an excavator at a mountain and there is a stone of all sorts of shapes and sharpness

734
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:05,700
flying everywhere

735
00:59:06,340 --> 00:59:08,340
Yeah, little beach umbrella

736
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:11,900
Smart he's a little iced coffee. Yeah

737
00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:17,940
And he's getting the job done. He's totally getting the job done and he's enjoying life. He's enjoying life

738
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:20,460
That's why I love about it. I wanted to ask you guys

739
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:26,020
What was some of the funniest things that you guys found on the property when you guys started opening up certain wall?

740
00:59:26,020 --> 00:59:28,020
I know that there was a whack of

741
00:59:28,060 --> 00:59:30,660
Scorpions I'm not a fan of scorpions to begin with myself

742
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:34,940
You know even though they're tiny as hell, but they move quick and they've got two big claws

743
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:41,220
But I mean were there interesting things that you guys found where they're like little I don't know containers or something. I don't know

744
00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:48,940
We we did find and I hope he's never gonna hear this show, but the previous owner we did find his

745
00:59:49,620 --> 00:59:51,620
man cave stash of magazines

746
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,500
That was

747
00:59:54,500 --> 01:00:00,860
What you got the centerfolds really wow 1970s Greek playboy

748
01:00:00,860 --> 01:00:05,100
It was quite tasteful to be honest. Did you guys ask the average to come back to trim that?

749
01:00:07,780 --> 01:00:09,780
You're onto it

750
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:16,700
I can only imagine man. I can only imagine. I'm sorry. I mean they're dating. That's funny. You guys found that stash

751
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:23,860
Yeah, we found some like it was uncomfortable not not funny or weird, but like bullets

752
01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:27,920
World War two bullets. Wow. They found

753
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:33,940
We also found a cool little what the butter the other like piggy bank that was buried. Oh, yeah

754
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:39,460
There's really cool little metal. We don't know if you shake it. There's something in it

755
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:43,980
But we're we don't know how to open the damn thing. So no, no, no break. Don't we also had

756
01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:48,140
Books we're like so it's really big contrast with the playboys

757
01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:53,900
We had like this muddy like stuff, but we also had like Bibles and church books from 1899 and 1920

758
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:57,020
Well, you got to commit the sin and then you got asked for forgiveness, right? So

759
01:00:58,300 --> 01:00:59,500
Yeah, right

760
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:05,500
One of the coolest things I'd say the previous owner called us about a month in well through when we were cleaning up the property

761
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:08,940
About three weeks in and he's like, you know what I really like you guys

762
01:01:08,940 --> 01:01:10,940
I know we haven't physically met but

763
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:14,780
You know, I like you guys and I really like how so excited he's like I'm gonna tell you a secret about

764
01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:19,260
The history of this home and we're like what and he's like okay

765
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:24,460
So and he was trying to explain to me like walk over here walk over here. He's like I found I

766
01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:28,660
Found a present from the from the elders from the old Greeks

767
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:30,940
And I was like, well, what what do you mean?

768
01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:35,180
And so I'm and I'm walking around on my phone and so I hang up the phone tell Greg

769
01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:39,380
I'm like we need to go back to the hardware store and get it like a chisel and a hammer or something

770
01:01:39,380 --> 01:01:42,820
so he told us that he was fixing the property he found a cave and

771
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:49,980
During the Turkish occupation and then the World War two with the Germans and stuff a lot of Greeks took their gold coins and would hide them in

772
01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:52,540
Different places in the walls and caves and things

773
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,940
So he actually had found a stash, but he obviously took it

774
01:01:56,940 --> 01:02:01,060
But he goes, you know, just to you since you guys are interested. He told me sort of where it is

775
01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:04,660
He's like if you see I just cemented over the little access point to this cave

776
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:09,820
I left a gift in there for someone to open it one day. So I'm like Greg right now. Don't tell anyone

777
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:14,740
We got to go like get a chisel get a hammer. We drove to the hardware store came back

778
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:18,580
We're sitting there like on our knees like trying to like tick tick tick away at this

779
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:23,780
We created a hole maybe like six inches by foot foot my hand in with my iPhone

780
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:29,460
We were so excited Greg at first like this guy's rassing you know, I was like no, he's not he's not gonna

781
01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:34,340
Just say that like just send us on a goose hunt. So we end up going down. There's a cool little video

782
01:02:34,340 --> 01:02:39,180
We haven't posted it yet, but like we're trying to take our little like solar panel like light to shove it down there on a

783
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:42,660
String Greg puts his phone in and we find this cave. It's probably like a

784
01:02:43,340 --> 01:02:45,340
Cubic meter like it's huge big

785
01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:52,540
And he left the gift he left in there was a teacup and a saucer

786
01:02:53,380 --> 01:02:55,380
At the bottom of this cave

787
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:59,500
So but it was cool because no one he found like he found

788
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:04,980
He didn't say exactly what what everybody said, you know, there was a gift I found from the from the elder Greeks and

789
01:03:05,860 --> 01:03:12,620
So obviously, you know, you hear stories people finding gold coins and all this and yeah, that was the gift he

790
01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:16,220
He left. Are you guys are you guys still digging?

791
01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:19,860
We had a couple caves

792
01:03:20,540 --> 01:03:28,460
Actually, that's that's interesting. So we we found these caves while they were excavating and now we've changed our design in the tower to

793
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:30,460
Even though it's underground

794
01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:35,780
We have built a window we're building a window so that that cave can always be seen

795
01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:40,740
So we're not because otherwise our house would be up against this cave. You wouldn't see it

796
01:03:40,780 --> 01:03:45,340
So now we're we have we've put we put a window there so that we can light it

797
01:03:45,340 --> 01:03:49,180
You can see the stalactites and the stalactites. Yeah, it's pretty cool

798
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:56,540
Now does that make you guys feel obligated to leave something there when you guys are building and cover it up

799
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:58,540
And then let the next owners

800
01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:01,260
I don't know

801
01:04:02,980 --> 01:04:05,860
Or maybe leave the same tea cup and saucer, I don't know

802
01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:11,260
You know, I I've thought of all these weird things to do to the house. So like I was even like

803
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:15,660
I'm morbid. I'm maybe more morbid. You're you're nice

804
01:04:16,780 --> 01:04:21,580
I actually was like we need to go and buy like all the Barbies from this like

805
01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:27,660
This store over here and put the heads into the you know, so when they tear down all the plaster walls all these heads

806
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:30,860
They're stuck in the stone might as well melt them while you're at it, too

807
01:04:30,860 --> 01:04:36,540
So they could be partially melted and then put it in there. Yes. What we did put into the walls is

808
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:40,420
Right when we started they so they laid the foundation tradition here in Greece

809
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:49,380
Is actually you it's an old Greek pagan tradition before Christianity is you would actually slaughter rooster and spill the blood on the property

810
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:55,060
That was for good luck for building. So our engineers are telling us, you know, a little Canadian Greg here is like

811
01:04:55,060 --> 01:04:58,020
Oh, hell no, I'll bring chicken suvlaki to the job site

812
01:04:59,260 --> 01:05:01,260
We can pour the juice from the box

813
01:05:06,220 --> 01:05:08,380
So we fast-forward and went with the new

814
01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:14,580
2000 year old the Christian way and we had the priest come up and do a holy water to bless the whole nice, too

815
01:05:14,580 --> 01:05:21,500
Yeah, so we did that little service and then the he takes some basil and dips in the holy water

816
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:24,900
and then like uses it to sprinkle the holy water everywhere and

817
01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:27,820
So what Craig and I did since they were just starting to build the walls

818
01:05:27,820 --> 01:05:32,700
We ripped up the basil and shoved it into the walls. We're like, oh well, I guess it's a blessing. Good luck

819
01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:36,220
Yeah, or it'll grow we'll see

820
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:42,260
Hopefully it's not a problem. Oh, I wanted to ask you a bunch of other stuff too as well

821
01:05:42,260 --> 01:05:45,580
I still got what haven't you guys told us about? Oh

822
01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:52,940
I'm just gonna try I mean outside of I mean first of all the food there has got to be amazing

823
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:58,540
The food is incredible. Like I'm just I'm just I can almost smell it here

824
01:05:58,540 --> 01:05:59,980
Like I mean, it's got to be amazing

825
01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:04,940
No, like it's all and I know that I saw some of the festivals that you guys were walking around and that's what I miss

826
01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:07,260
About my own small town in the Azores as well

827
01:06:07,260 --> 01:06:12,700
It's just you see the same faces you have similar conversations. You just kind of carry that

828
01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:17,020
Conversation over and over and you add a little bit to that story and you keep on going and then you enjoy food

829
01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:23,220
You enjoy wine you enjoy everything and that's why the value of the house there versus the value back here, right?

830
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:25,700
Very envious very envious, right?

831
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:30,540
Well, and and we live in Kalamata like the major city here is Kalamata

832
01:06:30,540 --> 01:06:35,020
So any olive you've ever picked up is likely to be a Kalamata olive

833
01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:40,100
Yeah, so we're we're very well known for the olives and for the oil and

834
01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:43,340
I mean, I've used olive oil in Canada

835
01:06:43,340 --> 01:06:47,700
But you you very quickly here learned that Canada actually

836
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:55,980
Probably receives the bottom of the barrel oil from from Greece from Italy from wherever it either goes to a loop or it comes to your dinner table

837
01:06:57,340 --> 01:06:59,340
the like

838
01:06:59,340 --> 01:07:01,140
Chris says caught me

839
01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:07,460
Like over the sink pouring oil into a piece of bread like bread bread is now just a vessel for oil

840
01:07:07,460 --> 01:07:12,580
I just really if it was acceptable in the social society we live in to just eat the oil

841
01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:17,700
I would I cannot believe how much I discovered olive oil to be a

842
01:07:18,260 --> 01:07:22,980
Taste of that. I like I adore it. I I want it all the time. It's weird

843
01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:27,340
So when are we gonna see two guys in Greece olive oil bottle show up on the shores of Canada?

844
01:07:27,340 --> 01:07:34,860
Yeah, let's let's get our trees healthy. I'm just saying I mean, it's not a bad idea, right to get it there

845
01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:38,300
You've got the supply. It's right there. Yeah, it's true

846
01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:44,140
Yeah, we've harvested one one year one season. So we've learned to learn to the trade. Yeah, we did

847
01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:50,380
Are you guys itching to do some of the work yourself or you guys are just like hands off and just let them do it

848
01:07:50,380 --> 01:07:51,980
Let them take care of it

849
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:54,780
We are actually pretty hands-on. I mean we

850
01:07:54,780 --> 01:08:02,540
Um, we're not touching the stone. I mean structurally I need that house to withstand all of the things including earthquakes

851
01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:08,620
So we we opt out of touching anything that's structural and electrical and probably plumbing

852
01:08:09,260 --> 01:08:17,020
Um, after that, I'm happy to get my hands dirty. Um, because it's most likely not going to make something break

853
01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:20,540
Or injure somebody. Um, you know, so

854
01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:24,540
So, yeah, those those are the areas we'll probably stick out of but uh

855
01:08:25,420 --> 01:08:29,100
Yeah, when it comes to two other things, yeah, we're not

856
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:32,140
we're not like

857
01:08:33,020 --> 01:08:37,020
Not painting not, you know, sanding things down. That's fine

858
01:08:37,820 --> 01:08:42,300
And in fact, we've never really had the opportunity to do it, right? So it's uh, it's

859
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:47,580
It's exciting. It's exciting to go to a hardware store and like actually need something

860
01:08:47,580 --> 01:08:54,540
I'm not there to just walk around like I need something like we we bought a chainsaw. I bought a chainsaw like I was like dad

861
01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:57,020
We have a chainsaw like

862
01:08:58,220 --> 01:09:00,220
Do you know how to use a chainsaw?

863
01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:03,900
Never used one in my life still haven't and it is out of the box

864
01:09:03,980 --> 01:09:08,540
It's just now hanging on the trunk of our car because we started construction. There's nowhere to store

865
01:09:08,620 --> 01:09:12,140
And I was driving on the chainsaw in their truck. Yeah, we look we look great

866
01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:17,740
It's one of the two guys in Greece and a chainsaw. Yeah, it's wild

867
01:09:18,460 --> 01:09:25,580
Uh, what else? I have a bunch of questions. I want to I'm I'm assuming are you guys the first in your circle of friends that have done this

868
01:09:26,140 --> 01:09:29,580
Or have other people in your circle of friends that have done this or considering this

869
01:09:31,660 --> 01:09:37,020
Our really good friend chrissa here, um did something similar

870
01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:40,140
where she's restored an entire um

871
01:09:40,140 --> 01:09:46,220
Historical home in the center of Kalamata. So I mean she's originally from Vancouver as well came here married

872
01:09:46,700 --> 01:09:49,660
A Greek man and and now has a beautiful

873
01:09:50,860 --> 01:09:52,860
four-year-old four-year-old daughter and

874
01:09:53,820 --> 01:09:55,820
She's she's like everything ducks

875
01:09:56,540 --> 01:10:02,300
So she's done it. She's uh, she's been through the exact same thing. So actually a lot of the trades people we've met

876
01:10:03,020 --> 01:10:05,020
a lot of her

877
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:11,660
Learning um has she's passed it on to us. So she's she's really been um helpful in this process

878
01:10:11,820 --> 01:10:13,820
And she got held up with the like

879
01:10:14,380 --> 01:10:19,820
Our house was deemed archaeological hers was deemed historical which was even worse because there was more committees to go through

880
01:10:20,460 --> 01:10:24,460
So hers was three years for permits and ours was only six months

881
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:27,180
We also have to thank co vid the one positive thing

882
01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:33,660
Yeah, which forced Greece from the paperwork to the digital age where permits became digitalized during co vid

883
01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:37,340
Um, so I think that also expedited our our process

884
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:39,820
I was actually looking online and and the Greek

885
01:10:40,460 --> 01:10:43,340
Process of permitting and everything is very similar to the canadian way

886
01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:45,740
There's a lot of very similar stages

887
01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:51,740
Everything's pretty much on the same kind of level and on stages and how you do things how you prepare things how you build things

888
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:54,860
It's just you're in a a different part of the world. That's all it is

889
01:10:55,340 --> 01:10:57,340
Um, I was gonna ask you guys

890
01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:03,340
Do you can you be a tourist and do what you guys are going through or do you need to become a permanent resident?

891
01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:07,820
You can um anyone can purchase property in Greece

892
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:14,940
There are some parts of Greece where you cannot purchase that like bordering like the trickish border where it's a bit protected

893
01:11:15,580 --> 01:11:17,660
Um area where foreigners can't purchase

894
01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:19,180
um

895
01:11:19,180 --> 01:11:24,140
But yeah, anyone can purchase as long as you get a tax number and uh, you're declaring the money coming in

896
01:11:24,140 --> 01:11:30,300
Um, there is the golden visa program. We've actually at the bank bumped into some other canadiens from Calgary down in Mani

897
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:35,100
They bought a pot of lamb built a house during the golden visa program. They have no connection to Greece

898
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:41,580
No, nothing. They're straight up canadian as well. And they're just loving life our next door neighbors are from ireland

899
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:46,060
Um, our little settlement is a lot of uh foreigners actually a lot of expats

900
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:51,180
You know 315 days a sun a year fresh food vegetables. I was swimming at the beach a couple days ago

901
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:53,180
You know in december

902
01:11:53,180 --> 01:11:56,620
Sorry mani. No, I'm just saying why not might as well

903
01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:03,660
Yeah, right. Are you guys I'm curious are you guys uh, I mean you you're just getting started. I would say the hard part

904
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:06,060
Uh, you got the next 12 months

905
01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:10,780
I'd love to have you guys back on the show when you guys have it finished and and show us and give us a tour

906
01:12:10,780 --> 01:12:12,460
That would be amazing to see it

907
01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:15,180
But are you guys still over the mind like let's do this again?

908
01:12:15,580 --> 01:12:19,340
Like are you at that point or by the time you get to the end? We're never gonna do this again

909
01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:22,540
It's an itch. It's an itch. You're like

910
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:25,900
There's you know, we so we renovated this condo

911
01:12:26,460 --> 01:12:31,740
Knowing what we would go through in the house. I mean, we haven't finished the house and nor have we even started thinking about

912
01:12:32,060 --> 01:12:38,060
fixtures flooring colors all that I mean we we have these 3d mock-ups which we're we're gonna try to stay true to but

913
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:40,860
um

914
01:12:40,860 --> 01:12:43,260
We I'm already looking at property

915
01:12:44,540 --> 01:12:45,660
Those can't

916
01:12:45,660 --> 01:12:47,660
Can't stay off the real estate website

917
01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:51,340
I'm good that we recorded that crystals because I want to see in about a year's time

918
01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:54,940
If that's going to still be the same thought process, right?

919
01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:57,660
All depends on how much money we spend on this place

920
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:04,220
But that'll all go out the window the moment you're finishing you're sitting there and it won't matter what that amount is at all

921
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:09,820
Right, it's going to be more about what you guys feel emotionally to that house and what you guys have done for that island

922
01:13:09,820 --> 01:13:17,020
And that property and everybody else that's had that property, right? So I could still see you guys looking at another property and starting all over again

923
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:23,100
Yeah, it's uh, actually even even the surrounding area around the house that we're in

924
01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:31,020
It's it's beautiful, right and like people there's places for sale in this whole area like, uh, you know, so

925
01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:36,620
Also in the the side of the mountain where we are it is the first village of mani

926
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:40,700
So it's sort of like borderline mani borderline calamata and it's called verga

927
01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:46,380
Is the area and the area of verga they've actually stopped giving building permits

928
01:13:47,020 --> 01:13:48,300
So

929
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:53,580
If there's any pieces of plots of land that have already have a building permit those are going up in value

930
01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:59,180
Yeah, because you can't just buy a plot of land and then submit for building you have to have some existing building permit

931
01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:02,780
Um right now. So it's always the reason why they stopped them

932
01:14:02,780 --> 01:14:06,940
Um, just too much. There's lots a lot of villas going up

933
01:14:06,940 --> 01:14:11,660
It used to be all just like all nature and stuff and forest land and you know agricultural land

934
01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:17,740
And it's now like there's some gorgeous villas and homes being built and hotels like our there's only a

935
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:23,500
Three kilometer drive up the mountain. But now we passed by two five star hotels

936
01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:29,420
We have that beautiful castle bar nightclub where I proposed to greg. Um, you know, we have like

937
01:14:30,060 --> 01:14:32,380
um a couple

938
01:14:32,380 --> 01:14:36,940
Bars up there restaurants in the little settlements where we are if you take the stone path up

939
01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:41,340
There's actually a little tavern over there where they have the wine from the mountain the olive of the mountain, you know

940
01:14:41,340 --> 01:14:43,340
like the full traditional

941
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:45,340
village da verna, um

942
01:14:45,980 --> 01:14:47,420
It's uh

943
01:14:47,420 --> 01:14:49,420
It's sort of booming. Yeah

944
01:14:49,820 --> 01:14:52,300
Come in and it's a weird village way like yeah

945
01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:58,460
But I don't know it's I love the village life. I totally love the village life, right?

946
01:14:58,460 --> 01:15:02,300
It just I me personally I've gotten so sick and tired of Toronto in the last few years

947
01:15:02,380 --> 01:15:04,860
It's just I think Toronto's just chipped away at me too much

948
01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:08,540
And I'm tired of being chipped away that I'd rather go to the village life, right?

949
01:15:09,260 --> 01:15:11,260
It's so different, isn't it like the

950
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:18,940
Your what matters to you changes, you know, like your the material world slips away all of a sudden

951
01:15:18,940 --> 01:15:26,140
It's uh, it's not so much about buying things and and owning things. It's more about community and and

952
01:15:26,140 --> 01:15:30,860
You know being outside and connecting with people and fresh food and

953
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:37,340
Uh, you start to care about things you don't find yourself caring about in this other life that we knew very well from Vancouver

954
01:15:37,340 --> 01:15:39,340
Yeah, um

955
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:45,980
You're not scheduling, you know coffee dates with friends two weeks from now. Like yeah, like it's this is not the way it works

956
01:15:46,060 --> 01:15:52,140
You know the people here in Greece and you can probably say the same for your people and in the Azores is like they

957
01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:59,740
They will have five euros to their name left after they've worked, you know all the month

958
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:02,300
And they still want to buy you a coffee

959
01:16:02,460 --> 01:16:08,940
They will not let you pay and that's their last five euros and they're like it's like from like they need to go home knowing

960
01:16:08,940 --> 01:16:14,380
They've done something and they'll even give you the espresso cup and the saucer so you could take it as a gift if you want

961
01:16:14,860 --> 01:16:16,620
I know, I know

962
01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:19,500
I love that and then and then like Vancouver, you know, Toronto

963
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:25,100
It's unlikely people even know their neighbours, you know, they're you're in an elevator and you put your head down

964
01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:29,500
And you don't say hi to the person next to us. It's something I've I've I've learned that

965
01:16:30,220 --> 01:16:35,820
There's there's this thing we've forgotten about in Canada and in North America even, you know that

966
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:42,380
Yeah, it's it's sad to see our next door neighbor here at the apartment. We're living in now like we weren't even moving in

967
01:16:42,460 --> 01:16:46,060
Yeah, we're still renovating and she lives in Athens and this is like a summer home for her

968
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:51,420
She's like, oh, come here. I was like what she's like here are the keys for my apartment check on it. I was like, no, no, no

969
01:16:51,420 --> 01:16:55,740
No, like I know she's like no you guys are good boys. I know like there's the keys to my apartment

970
01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:00,860
You know, once in a while just check on things when I'm not around. I'm like, no, no, I don't feel comfortable like we don't

971
01:17:00,940 --> 01:17:07,660
She's like, no, it's okay. I'm just like, uh, okay. We're like we have your keys now. That's weird, but uh,

972
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:14,780
But it's not it's not weird. It's not. Yeah. Yeah, it isn't I want to I want to ask one last question before I get into the

973
01:17:14,780 --> 01:17:19,980
12 questions of construction, which will be pretty entertaining. I think um, I want to ask you guys

974
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:27,020
Uh, can you guys describe the kitchen that you guys are going to build as detailed as orientated because I want to get a sense

975
01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:29,020
If you guys are

976
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:34,540
And I'll just say it making the mistake of bringing a Canadian kitchen over there and I hope you're certainly not doing that

977
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:37,740
This is interesting. Uh, yeah

978
01:17:38,380 --> 01:17:42,060
Well, well, can you describe as much detail as possible?

979
01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:48,540
Just please tell me that you're not doing any shaker cabinetry or doors or white kitchen or like anything

980
01:17:49,180 --> 01:17:51,180
I'm looking at a picture right now. It is

981
01:17:53,340 --> 01:17:55,340
But it's not shaker is it can't be shaker

982
01:17:56,780 --> 01:18:01,180
What is shaker shaker is a framed and a square edge on inside

983
01:18:05,900 --> 01:18:09,500
Okay, so you guys did bring Canada over to Greece there. All right, okay

984
01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:13,180
Full disclosure. We didn't get a choice of the cabinets. Why?

985
01:18:13,580 --> 01:18:16,300
Why didn't you guys get a choice? Why wasn't that allowed?

986
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:22,700
It was just to bring the kitchen to life so we could see it. Um, you know, it was it was it was a first

987
01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:27,900
I just loved that Chris was in the beginning was talking about tile from Spain and then you know like uh

988
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:33,020
Wood from so and so and all these different places and now uh, cabinetry from Canada

989
01:18:33,020 --> 01:18:35,020
Uh

990
01:18:38,060 --> 01:18:42,860
Yes, yes the in in the kitchen what I was pushing for was to have that stone wall

991
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:49,420
Stonewall island and that we haven't and then my other thing I was pushing for was our hot water tanks

992
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:55,420
Because here in Greece we get 315 days a sunny year in Kalamata. Um, so we want our solar hot water tanks

993
01:18:55,580 --> 01:19:01,260
So we don't have to pay for hot water. Um, and our architect she did the mock-up

994
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:04,700
Uh, we're looking on the second screen right now. She did the the mock-up for it

995
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:11,020
Um, but in all reality, we're gonna be bringing the company Stoza. They're in Kalamata. They're an amazing team

996
01:19:11,020 --> 01:19:15,340
We worked with them on this on this uh apartment and we're gonna get their

997
01:19:15,980 --> 01:19:22,220
Their feedback and their expertise. We already saw some of their cool things like I know I was amazed by they have this super cool like

998
01:19:22,940 --> 01:19:24,940
at uh french, um

999
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:30,860
Where you have where you cook the pots and pans I can't think it's an induction or you don't induction cooked up

1000
01:19:30,860 --> 01:19:36,380
Okay, but the center but the center of it is the exhaust fan and it's like this down. It's a down draft

1001
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:41,020
Yes, yes, it's a down draft the eyes gravity and it blows my mind

1002
01:19:41,180 --> 01:19:45,420
And then you purposely want to create smoke so you can see that smoke go down instead of go

1003
01:19:45,420 --> 01:19:49,820
Yes, 100 like I just want to boil the water for the sake of just be careful

1004
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:56,140
Just be careful about the routing of that exhaust fan because it's a lot trickier than doing a traditional way

1005
01:19:56,140 --> 01:20:01,100
That's all just be careful when you're doing the cabinetry and everything like that because there

1006
01:20:01,740 --> 01:20:04,300
It takes up a lot of space on the back end of the stove, right?

1007
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:09,260
So just factor that in remember that right because I've done it a few times and it's uh

1008
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:11,900
It's like parking a coffin behind the stove

1009
01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:16,780
You know what I mean? It's such a big component and it's just annoying and you got to try to hide it, right?

1010
01:20:16,860 --> 01:20:21,580
So but it's a very cool. I like it because I I hate staring at something right at eye level

1011
01:20:21,580 --> 01:20:25,580
Uh, when you're cooking or like you got the hood there. So that's why I like the down draft

1012
01:20:25,580 --> 01:20:30,780
But you got to get you got to do it properly. Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. No fair. What's the countertop gonna be?

1013
01:20:31,580 --> 01:20:34,220
I would show you the picture of the kitchen. No, don't show everyone

1014
01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:36,620
No, I want to see one of you guys get closer to finishing it

1015
01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:40,380
But I just wanted to get an idea and I wasn't trying to insult you guys about the shaker shit

1016
01:20:40,460 --> 01:20:45,340
It's just like I hate that if you've heard the show before everyone knows I hate that I can't stand that

1017
01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:51,980
It's just everybody does it shaker and you're like the square we're looking over like oh my god I hate this shaker shit

1018
01:20:52,220 --> 01:20:59,020
I just met you guys and I'm and I'm insulting your house that you're building in Greece man. I apologize. I totally apologize

1019
01:20:59,740 --> 01:21:03,340
What what what what color what color countertop are you guys doing?

1020
01:21:03,980 --> 01:21:06,940
Well, I'm gonna let you guess actually since you've done so well

1021
01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:09,900
Is it white marble

1022
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:12,140
No, what is it? What is it?

1023
01:21:12,140 --> 01:21:16,300
What is it's like a gray like slate granite and it's actually a two-tiered

1024
01:21:16,620 --> 01:21:20,780
With a the second tier is a white like Korean white marble. So that's nice

1025
01:21:21,580 --> 01:21:26,780
Yeah, so there's the the island of the the middle of the kitchen is two tiers

1026
01:21:26,780 --> 01:21:28,780
So it's almost like it creates a bar

1027
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:33,580
On it, but there's a lower half where your sink and your your stove would go like

1028
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:35,900
I'm not sure if the sink's going there actually but

1029
01:21:36,620 --> 01:21:41,180
We can't actually see it in this photo, but I think it's it's either the oh, yeah, it is it is there

1030
01:21:41,180 --> 01:21:42,540
It is there

1031
01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:48,620
Yeah, so so she's got this like nice designed island, which we didn't even ask for we never gave her any inspiration for this

1032
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:50,220
this just threw

1033
01:21:50,220 --> 01:21:54,460
Uh itself into the mix and we were like, yes, this looks this looks Canadian. We're in

1034
01:21:56,380 --> 01:22:01,020
We were like big windows stone wall. That was that was our requirements on the kitchen

1035
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:07,260
We did say that like we we love to cook. We love to entertain. Um, so the kitchen's the most important place

1036
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:10,460
Although she drew this for us. I

1037
01:22:10,460 --> 01:22:13,820
It wouldn't we would never end up here. It's you know, it

1038
01:22:14,380 --> 01:22:18,700
I would need to learn more about what this is. You got time you got you got time to change it

1039
01:22:18,700 --> 01:22:21,020
You got lots of time to modify it and then

1040
01:22:21,820 --> 01:22:24,300
Make some other suggestions or things like that, right? So

1041
01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:29,260
All right guys, thank you so much. I want to do the 12 questions of construction. You guys ready for this

1042
01:22:30,060 --> 01:22:36,860
Yeah, go for it. Everybody that's been listening to the show. Please check them out two guys the number two two guys dot in dot grease

1043
01:22:36,860 --> 01:22:42,060
Uh for 12 questions here you go. What is your favorite construction word?

1044
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:49,260
Oh, it's I've already forgotten it. Isn't that bad? Um

1045
01:22:50,940 --> 01:22:54,540
Is it is it what's that bob thing? Oh the plum bob the plum bob

1046
01:22:55,980 --> 01:22:59,260
Hands down plum bob. Who who named this thing?

1047
01:22:59,260 --> 01:23:05,340
Um, I'm guessing bob or robert could have been a robert. I'm not sure

1048
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,900
Chris, so

1049
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:17,260
I have to say kufo mata. Oh kufo mata and that kufo mata. It's like the doors and windows and uh

1050
01:23:18,460 --> 01:23:20,940
Yeah, I don't know what the work exact holes of the house

1051
01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:25,980
Like no like the the the doors the windows of the home the openings although like okay

1052
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:29,420
The openings with the metal surroundings for the for the glass

1053
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:32,540
I don't know. I don't know how to talk. They're the trims the track

1054
01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:41,180
I would say trim or the casing the true casing casing. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Uh, what is your least favorite construction word?

1055
01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:45,820
Uh

1056
01:23:45,820 --> 01:23:47,820
No delay

1057
01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:54,140
So basically you guys said no delays. All right. What what turns you on in construction?

1058
01:23:54,140 --> 01:23:56,860
Oh stone. Yeah stone

1059
01:23:57,820 --> 01:23:59,580
the actually

1060
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:04,140
I never thought cutting stone could be so sexy the like

1061
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:09,740
Watch I could sit there all day. I could be late for work because I'm watching this excavator like

1062
01:24:10,540 --> 01:24:14,140
Sounds now terrible drill into the into the rock

1063
01:24:14,780 --> 01:24:20,460
Now you're getting a slow motion. Let's cue the music. No, there's lots. There's lots of double entendres in construction

1064
01:24:20,460 --> 01:24:23,580
That's why we're in construction. We love it. All right. We totally love it

1065
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:27,100
Yeah, but are they cutting it? Are they dry cutting or wet cutting it?

1066
01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:33,500
It was dry. Um, it was a jack. You like that's right. That's right. Remember. Yeah, I didn't see any hoses hooked up

1067
01:24:33,980 --> 01:24:36,860
I guess maybe like a hose from the ocean and then they kind of

1068
01:24:37,340 --> 01:24:42,620
Siphon it out or something they're using that but nothing like that. What turns you off in construction?

1069
01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:47,180
Scorpions, no

1070
01:24:47,180 --> 01:24:52,300
I absolutely hate dust. So on the same note of cutting rock, which is super awesome

1071
01:24:52,300 --> 01:24:54,300
I'm the fucking mess

1072
01:24:55,580 --> 01:25:03,820
It sucks like um, especially stone. I have ruined all my shoes. I have you know, I'm I'm the idea that comes to a construction site in a new pair of

1073
01:25:03,820 --> 01:25:09,180
Nikes, um, you know the uh, yeah, it's I hate mess. I'm not very good with it

1074
01:25:09,820 --> 01:25:11,820
Order some grisports. They're from Italy

1075
01:25:12,620 --> 01:25:17,020
They're right. They're super comfortable and then you won't ruin them. They'll last forever. Yeah

1076
01:25:17,660 --> 01:25:20,300
Uh, what is your favorite curse word gentlemen?

1077
01:25:20,300 --> 01:25:22,300
Oh

1078
01:25:22,780 --> 01:25:24,780
Could be in Greece too drake. Sorry

1079
01:25:28,460 --> 01:25:34,860
Go ahead. I have to think for a sec. I I actually swear a lot in gree- in greek. Sorry. I swear a lot in greek. Um

1080
01:25:35,660 --> 01:25:40,060
In when we say damn it, it's a calm ramoto ramoto. Like uh,

1081
01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:42,700
Ramoto. Yeah

1082
01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:51,100
It's like damn it. Like uh, fuck. Yeah. So maybe fuck is my I would have to say, uh, malakis menno

1083
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:53,660
Malakamis thenno

1084
01:25:53,660 --> 01:25:57,260
Malakis menno so malaka directly translates to like I've heard that way

1085
01:25:58,220 --> 01:26:00,220
Oh, yeah

1086
01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:05,660
um, and it's like uh, uh, you're like getting mad at that thing like you're

1087
01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:08,540
like fucking wanker thing

1088
01:26:08,540 --> 01:26:15,580
What is your favorite vehicle in the entire world while you guys are living there you're not really dealing with vehicles but

1089
01:26:16,460 --> 01:26:18,300
Oh

1090
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:21,020
Can we just say that christos and I have only owned

1091
01:26:21,660 --> 01:26:24,060
Volkswagen like g guys and gulfs

1092
01:26:24,780 --> 01:26:26,780
For some reason it's not where we met

1093
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:31,420
Yeah, before we met we arrived together in each other's lives with he had a gti at a golf

1094
01:26:31,420 --> 01:26:35,260
They're literally the same car and I already owned a golf here in Greece when I was in the military

1095
01:26:35,260 --> 01:26:38,620
Yeah, so we're with a golf again. It's just I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it out there

1096
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:43,980
In unintentionally, we love the the gti golf thing happening with Volkswagen

1097
01:26:44,140 --> 01:26:48,940
And it's another story teaching Greg to drive standard on that mountain. I learned standard here in Greece. Yeah

1098
01:26:49,340 --> 01:26:51,340
You never drove stick before ever

1099
01:26:51,580 --> 01:26:56,780
Never no flash on a mountain christos. That'd be a little that'd be a little scary. Yeah, like it's rolling

1100
01:26:56,780 --> 01:27:00,380
Like I haven't heard it's rolling rolling back. It's still rolling back

1101
01:27:01,020 --> 01:27:03,180
The whip lash now we're still doing there

1102
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:05,180
Yeah

1103
01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:07,180
They met a screaming like a little girl. I like

1104
01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:10,380
Yeah, third third gear was scary at one point

1105
01:27:11,340 --> 01:27:13,420
What is your least favorite vehicle in the world?

1106
01:27:16,460 --> 01:27:18,460
Oh the tourist minivans

1107
01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:20,780
Oh, okay. Yeah

1108
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:24,300
Yeah, especially like parking up because we don't have much parking by the house, right?

1109
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:24,860
Yeah

1110
01:27:24,860 --> 01:27:31,420
So all of a sudden you get these like german tourists show up and they're like big minivan things and they're like taking up like four stalls

1111
01:27:31,420 --> 01:27:35,180
On this side of the mountain can't even get a donkey past them. Eh?

1112
01:27:35,980 --> 01:27:37,980
Yeah on a hairpin turn too

1113
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:41,020
What's yours, great

1114
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:43,500
uh probably

1115
01:27:43,820 --> 01:27:45,820
So we have a lot of um

1116
01:27:45,820 --> 01:27:51,180
The the incorrect not politically correct way to refer to them as gypsies. So don't put this in your recording

1117
01:27:51,260 --> 01:27:53,260
but uh roma roma, um

1118
01:27:53,900 --> 01:27:56,060
They they tend to drive these beat up

1119
01:27:57,820 --> 01:27:59,820
Rusty falling apart trucks

1120
01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:07,260
And I I am not a fan. I am not a fan and they don't wear seatbelts and there's too many people in these cars. This is yeah

1121
01:28:07,740 --> 01:28:11,580
Uh, what's your favorite or sorry? What construction sound or noise do you guys love?

1122
01:28:12,860 --> 01:28:14,620
Oh

1123
01:28:14,620 --> 01:28:16,620
This is a good question

1124
01:28:17,740 --> 01:28:20,300
A sound uh noise either or

1125
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:26,300
We haven't heard it at the house yet

1126
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:30,780
But I do love a nail gun. I remember when we were building our house when I was a kid

1127
01:28:32,060 --> 01:28:39,260
I have to say it's the so we recently put up um or we they uh our stone team

1128
01:28:39,900 --> 01:28:43,500
Put up a slide so that they could bring concrete down. Um

1129
01:28:44,540 --> 01:28:47,260
Uh the sound of the concrete

1130
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:52,860
Like splashing into the wheelbarrow is such a what a fascinating noise

1131
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:57,020
It's interesting that you say that because a lot of people hear compared to the porta potty

1132
01:28:58,460 --> 01:29:05,340
Oh my god. Yeah, well now you just ruined that for me. That's literally your next question is my least favorite sound. It's also this

1133
01:29:06,060 --> 01:29:08,860
What's your least what's what's sound or noise you guys hate?

1134
01:29:12,540 --> 01:29:16,780
So I hate I hate the sound of uh tile being cut

1135
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:18,460
Yeah

1136
01:29:18,460 --> 01:29:24,220
This is this is bad like the the grinding of tile. They're it's awful

1137
01:29:27,660 --> 01:29:29,660
What do I hate

1138
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:33,020
I'm gonna have to say um

1139
01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:38,540
When they were using the jackhammers to go through our walls to rewire the walls in this apartment

1140
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:43,980
Um, that was super annoying super lot. It was almost more no

1141
01:29:44,060 --> 01:29:47,180
I expected the excavation of the mountain to be this horrendous noise

1142
01:29:47,180 --> 01:29:49,180
But it was actually surprisingly a very

1143
01:29:50,060 --> 01:29:54,380
Interesting just like dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick. It was not that bad

1144
01:29:54,700 --> 01:29:58,860
But I just had the jackhammer on the in the walls of the apartment going through like the uh bricks

1145
01:29:59,260 --> 01:30:06,460
It's the the reverb in the concrete. It's the box. Oh, yeah, right? You've got the mountain. You've got the air. It just it dissipates, right?

1146
01:30:06,860 --> 01:30:13,740
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so hard. Uh, what profession other than your own would you guys like to attempt one day?

1147
01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:15,740
Oh

1148
01:30:16,380 --> 01:30:18,380
That's good

1149
01:30:19,420 --> 01:30:23,660
If I were to quit being a pilot and money wasn't an issue it'd be a bartender

1150
01:30:25,340 --> 01:30:29,580
I have this weird dream of owning a pie shop. I've never made a pie in my life

1151
01:30:30,220 --> 01:30:36,940
But I just feel like people selling pies are just they look sweet and savory pies or just sweet pies

1152
01:30:36,940 --> 01:30:43,340
Any pie any pie. I mean like let him make a pie first before we get what?

1153
01:30:44,860 --> 01:30:46,860
Profession would you not like to do?

1154
01:30:48,860 --> 01:30:50,140
Oh

1155
01:30:50,140 --> 01:30:52,140
Working at a Greek bank

1156
01:30:52,140 --> 01:30:55,820
100% they're very pleasant there. They're very happy go getters

1157
01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:58,140
No, right?

1158
01:30:58,140 --> 01:31:03,180
That's that's like that's like stepping back 300 years in time going to a bank in Greece

1159
01:31:03,180 --> 01:31:08,380
Wow, yeah, they laid the original stones of the house, huh? I know right?

1160
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:16,140
Is that both no, Greg what's yours? Yeah? Yeah, I don't I don't know what would I not want to do?

1161
01:31:18,060 --> 01:31:23,420
I probably you know what I couldn't do I could not I could not be a fisherman or do anything on a boat

1162
01:31:23,900 --> 01:31:28,940
Um, love being on a boat. I would just be sick like I need to see the shore

1163
01:31:28,940 --> 01:31:33,580
So couldn't work on a cruise couldn't work as a fisherman in the middle of the sea not gonna happen

1164
01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:38,860
Last question if heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at those pearly gates?

1165
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:41,900
Oh, fuck. Yeah

1166
01:31:43,980 --> 01:31:49,740
I think that's what I'm gonna say I'm pretty sure and it's gonna be because of all the incredible things we did here on this earth

1167
01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:55,020
Like it's gonna be a high five moment. Mine's a bit more PG like welcome. You made it

1168
01:31:55,020 --> 01:31:57,660
Pretty much means the same thing

1169
01:31:58,860 --> 01:32:04,860
Gentlemen, thank you so much. Honestly a blast talking to you guys. I know it's late there and it's it's afternoon is here for us

1170
01:32:05,180 --> 01:32:10,060
But thank you so much for being on the show and sharing and uh, and I definitely please keep posting

1171
01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:13,740
I love seeing the updates. I love seeing what's going on there and uh, you never know

1172
01:32:13,820 --> 01:32:18,460
Maybe I'll catch a flight and pass by in surprise and check it out for good because I'd love to take a look at it

1173
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:22,540
I love that kind of stuff. Love it. That'd be awesome. Please do you're welcome anytime

1174
01:32:22,540 --> 01:32:27,100
And yeah, thanks for having us letting us tell our story and even reminisce a little bit about

1175
01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:32,940
What it's like to do what we're doing. We don't give it enough thought. So that was that was nice. Great. All right. Thank you

1176
01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:52,940
Thank you, Angelina. We are out of here

1177
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:04,940
You