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Hi everybody, welcome to the Canine Connection

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podcast. Today, Lori and I are going to talk

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about acclimation and warmup. I find that a lot

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of my students will be training their dogs at

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home and in training buildings, and then I'm

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like, you really need to get out and about so

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your dog learns to work around distractions,

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and they go somewhere. And they take their dog

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out of the car and they start training the dog.

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And then they're like, it was a disaster. And

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I said, well, did you give your dog time to acclimate

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to the environment? They're like, what? So the

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dogs. Well, first of all, humans are very unaware.

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So when we go somewhere new, like when you pull

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into a parking lot and get out of the car, we

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do a ton of things habitually. Right. Like we.

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Look around. We listen. Right. If something like

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if I pull in the McDonald's parking lot, I smell

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the hamburgers. Right. I'm looking around and

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noting what people are there, what cars are there.

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Is it busy? Is it loud? Is it quiet? Like my

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brain takes in all that data and processes it

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and acts accordingly. Right. Well. Our dogs need

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to do the same thing. Now we get there and we

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know why we're there. I'm in the Lowe's parking

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lot. Now I've been in a Lowe's parking lot many

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times before. I understand that it's relatively

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safe as long as I keep an eye out for cars and

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I know why I'm there and I know what I want to

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do there, et cetera. My dog gets out of the car.

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That's all it knows. I'm out of the car. I'm

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in a new location. That's it. It's in a complete.

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an utter vacuum, right? It could be on a walk.

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It could be just there to hang out. It doesn't

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know what it's doing or why, right? All it knows

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is I put a leash on it. I took it out of the

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car. Now, how the heck is my dog supposed to

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know that I expect it now to pay attention to

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me and start doing whatever competition task

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I'm doing, right? And if you do more than one

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sport, How in the world does your dog even know

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what sport it's doing? Right. So we have to give

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the dog an opportunity. So we have to, first

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of all, have some sort of a routine or a cue

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that says to the dog, we're not here just to

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hang out, right? We're here to do some obedience,

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rally, nose work, whatever. And I have to establish

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a routine for that. So if I'm going to do obedience,

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I'm going to take my dog. I'm going to potty

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my dog and I'm going to do something that's going

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to let my dog know that's on the table. Right.

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And then I have to give my dog time to take in

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the environment for as long as this dog needs

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until the dog is. is like, okay, I am now comfortable.

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I understand. I've taken it all in. I've processed

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it all. I can now tune that out and tune in to

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you and what you're asking me to do, whatever

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that task is. Yeah, and I think what we need

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to just make a note of with that piece is like

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when you talked about like we get out of the

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parking lot, we know we're at Lowe's, we know

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what we're doing, we know blah, blah, blah, we've

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been there before. And even though you could

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even have brought your dog to that parking lot

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before at Lowe's, but it's not the same. Every

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time you take them somewhere, even if it's the

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same place, even in your own training building,

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it's not the same each time. There's going to

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be whatever environmental factors. have changed

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in that given time and place when you've gone

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there. Different people, different noises, different

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sounds, different smells, because the dogs don't

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really generalize that well. So depending on

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the dog's level, sometimes, you know, a month

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ago when you took your dog to Lowe's and it was

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just a really quiet, quiet Tuesday morning where

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not much was going on. And your dog got out of

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the car. Your acclimation was didn't take that

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long. Your dog was able to engage with you pretty

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quickly. But then you go two weeks later on a

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Saturday afternoon and it's crazy busy. Kids

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are piling out of cars. A balloon floats in the

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air. A car backfired like it could just be a

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totally different scenario. And your dog may

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take. triple time to acclimate because of that.

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Like that's just a worthy thing to note. Also,

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when your dogs get out of the car, like, like

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Petra said, like we get out of the car, we know

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where we're there. We know, you know, we kind

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of just look around quick, but the dogs do like

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animals get out of the animals when they go to

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any new place. Their first instinct is they kind

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of kick into that instinctive survival mode where

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their first thing really is, are they safe? Right.

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I think that's a big thing to note. Like they

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get out of the car and they are they need to

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check. They need to smell. They need to look

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to make sure that they're not going to get eaten

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and die or whatever it is. I think that's definitely

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worthy of noting. Yeah, that's super important.

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And it also depends on the dog, right? Like maybe

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the dog is just mentally tired. Maybe the dog's

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not feeling great. Maybe the dog's been training

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a lot, or maybe you've been going to a lot of

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different places and the dog's brain's like a

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little like, oh gosh, I can't quite. And then

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sometimes who the heck even knows, right? Like

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I remember my friend and my training partner

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and I. We met at a PetSmart one day. We'd gone

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to this PetSmart many times before, and our plan

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was to go into the PetSmart. And I got my first

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dog out of the car, and I was just going to do

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a couple things in the parking lot because I

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needed more space. Dog couldn't even work, couldn't

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even warm the dog up, right? I'm like, what is

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happening? All right, maybe my dog's just having

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an off day. He gets his dog out, same thing.

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I get my other dog, same thing. Needless to say,

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we never made it inside the PetSmart, right?

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We were stuck in that parking lot and we basically

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like dialed down our expectations and we're like,

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all right, I just gotta get like a little bit

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of work out of my dog and that's it. So I don't

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know why that day, I have no idea. I didn't know

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then. I didn't even really make myself too crazy

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about it. I just said, all right, you know what?

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Who knows why? We're just going to deal with

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it and did the best we could. And we left, right?

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And like, I don't know what happened. Now, one

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thing I will say in hindsight and something I've

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been really seeing and working on with a lot

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of my students is that. We tend to not give our

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dogs enough time to acclimate enough for the

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dog. Right. Like we. So my routine is I take

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my dog out of the car. I potty them. Then I put

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my dog in a with me, which means my dog's basically

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allowed to walk next to me because I have to

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do something that I can do at a trial. At a trial,

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my dog's not going to be. dangling at the end

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of a six foot leash because that's not safe.

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So my dog's going to be next to me, right? It

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doesn't have to look at me. We're not healing.

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It can look around, but it can't dart off, right?

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Like zesty, bolt over there because it thinks

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it sees a piece of food on the ground. No, it's

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a leaf, but whatever. um you have to stay with

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me and then we just walk around some people um

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stand some dogs that works fine a lot of dogs

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standing is too static yeah um so i find that

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motion is better and i walk around and around

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and around and give my dog enough time to look

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the problem is in the past is i've determined

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i've said oh my dog looks ready now or i think

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that's enough time And then we'll ask our dogs

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to work. And if it's not enough time, then we're

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asking our dogs to work and the work is not going

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to be optimal. And we may spend a fair amount

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of time saying the dog, hey, pay attention or

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leave that or kind of struggling to get full

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engagement. Yeah. And part of that is just, you

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know, impatience. Part of that is because, you

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know, we. got things to do people to see and

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places to go um and part of that is just like

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it's really kind of uncomfortable and boring

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and on some weird level kind of annoying to walk

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around and around and around and around and the

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dog not check in there's this human part of us

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that's like dude yeah let's go yeah Yeah, that's

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a big, that's a big one for sure. But I, I think

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what happens is people go in with an expectation.

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And that's like, I think pretty common. that

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we put an expectation on how it's going to go

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and how it's going to look. And there's just

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times where, like you said, when you guys went

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to the PetSmart, like it just totally did not

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go as planned, like you thought. And that's when

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we, because we have these expectations and the

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picture in our head, then that's when we start

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to get that frustration and stuff. And like I

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said, like, it could be like your dog, like I

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could have a... my seasoned dog and go to wherever

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and um what for whatever freaking reason like

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it could just be that the dog is having a really

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hard time acclimating to that environment and

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being engaged. In fact, a good example would

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be last year when I went out to the NOC, we rented

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a place to go train a couple of days before.

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And when we walked in, it was a building with

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really low ceilings that we were going to go

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train in inside. It was dark. Um, it was actually

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not very clean and ever couldn't work in there.

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Like for whatever reason, she was just like having

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such a hard time with it. I tried and tried.

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I could feel myself like starting to fucking

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panic. I'm like, oh my God, like we're like,

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we're going to be in the NOC in a day or two

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and my dog won't work. Um, but I was like, no,

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no, no, it's okay. Like it is what it is. It's

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got to be something going on with this particular

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environment. And sure enough, like I got in the

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car. I just put her away because I was like,

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I'm not going to dig a hole. I packed up my stuff.

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We left. I'm driving back and I'm trying to just

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be in my head like, it's all right. It's all

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right. It's all right. And then that night I

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just went out to a parking lot and was like,

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I'm just going to test a couple of things to

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make sure that we're not fucked. And she was

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totally fine. She was totally fine. So that's

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a really good example because she couldn't work.

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She couldn't, she couldn't engage. She couldn't,

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it was really hard for her. And like, we have

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to understand too, like there are animals, right?

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Like I say this all the time. They process the

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world differently. I mean. i will go back always

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to my yard like what's sesty doing right now

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on the patio with me he's staring out my gate

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right he's watching intently he's listening his

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ears are going back forth left right center right

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and he's sniffing like he's not just sitting

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there gazing into the sky like or whatever humans

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do like i don't even know sometimes i just stare

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into like the woods or i stare at my flowers

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i'm like oh aren't they pretty i don't think

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he's doing that right um that's how they process

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the world they act they um orient to motion they

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orient to sound like they're filtering everything

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in and out right in in a way that's meaningful

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to them as animals not not what's meaningful

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to us. Like, oh, we want you to do this task.

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Like the dog has to kind of get, you know, filter

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through all that. And we have to give them that

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opportunity. What I find is if we wait long enough,

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even if that's painfully long, I mean, you know,

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something that really hit home to me was in a

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podcast that Denise Fenzi had done. And she said

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something about like, standing somewhere and

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waiting like 20 minutes for her dog to acclimate.

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And I was like, wow, like that's a long time.

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And I thought about it and I'm like, no one waits

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20 minutes. Maybe that's a problem. Now, maybe

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most every dog is not going to take 20 minutes,

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but if it takes your dog that long, are you waiting

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that long? Probably not. Right. And what I'm

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finding is when my students wait long enough

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and when I wait long enough, because I wait longer

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now for Zesty, Zaina dials right in because she

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just could care less about the environment. Right.

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But that's who she is. That's uncharacteristic.

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She's the only one of my dogs that's ever been

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like that. Right. She just she's just a different

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egg. Most dogs need more time. And when we give

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them that extra time, so much conflict goes away.

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Yeah. Right. Like, like my one training partner

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yesterday, we met at Lowe's. Right. And. We're

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walking around. And again, I feel it like it's

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innate in me because I am someone that's always

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on the go, always got things to do, always like

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on to the next thing, on to the next thing. So

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he's walking around and walking around. And I

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feel that thing where I'm like, oh, come on.

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And I'm like, and now I know it. And I go, oh,

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interesting. Like, see, this is where and then

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I see it on his face. Right. When he wants, I

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can see the moment I, he wants to go like, all

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right, to his dog, like, let's go already. Right.

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And I looked at him, I go, don't do it. And he

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starts laughing because he could, he knew what

00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:16.960
I, that I knew. Right. And I'm like, just keep

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walking. Cause it is so uncomfortable. Right.

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And that, but this was what was great because

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the reason I'm making him do this is because.

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there's so much conflict of him nagging, having

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to nag the dog, leave it up here. And then the

00:16:34.940 --> 00:16:36.980
dog looks up and then leave it up here. And I

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was like, yeah. And I'm like, oh my God, dog.

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you're well this dog's well trained like come

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on right so he waited we waited and finally the

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dog starts checking in and then we're like yes

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and then we give him another chance because just

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because you checked in doesn't mean you're fully

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ready yep so then we walked around more guess

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what dog wasn't fully ready right and I could

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see him getting twitchy like I looked at him

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don't do it Just wait. Right. So now we have

00:17:07.950 --> 00:17:11.069
to wait again. Oh my God. I thought the dog was

00:17:11.069 --> 00:17:15.150
finally ready. Right. Anyway, long story short,

00:17:15.369 --> 00:17:19.230
dog's finally really ready. And guess what? We

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start working the dog. Dog doesn't look away.

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There's no conflict. Dog's giving him enormous

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effort. Dog did like unbelievable work. you know,

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literally we're doing command discrimination.

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So the dog's sitting there, he's walking away.

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This person with a cart comes by cause we're

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in an aisle, like literally like, I don't know,

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six inches pushing the cart next to the dog.

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Dog's perfectly fine. Right. Because we waited

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long enough and the dog had fully let go of the

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environment and a dog's brain had fully shifted

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into like, OK, I can now give you 100 percent

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of my attention and effort. Yeah. Yeah. Which

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is I think a big I think that's a really good

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example, because I think people. probably a lot

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of people who will be listening to this will

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want to kind of know or ask the question of like,

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well, when, how do I know when it's time? Like

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how, what, you know, what does that look like?

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Right. And I think that's, A, you need to, you

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need to know your dog. You need to be able to

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read your dog. Right. You need to, you need to

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really be able to read when your dog is able

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to give you full engagement. Right. And that

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means like what you just said, like the dog might

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check in with you and it might look like you've

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got it, but you do need to wait because you want

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to make sure that they can give you that duration

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of engagement, not just a check -in and then

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they need to go check the environment again.

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This was a big thing I had to do with Stormy

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this past weekend because she, a lot of people

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know this, that She was very, very environmentally

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sensitive, particular to men and really like

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public places with just people walking around.

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Doorways were really weird for her. People coming

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in and out of doorways for some reason, like

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whatever it was that like really freaked her

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out. I actually took her this past weekend to

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show at a place she had never, ever been. So

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I knew going in that she was definitely going

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to need lots of time for acclimation and that

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I was going to have to just eventually just be

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able to read whether or not she was actually

00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.440
going to be able to show. Like I was really ready

00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:05.380
to just scratch her entry if I knew she wouldn't

00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:09.269
be able to handle it. So I, you know, I only

00:20:09.269 --> 00:20:13.349
showed her on Sunday out of the two days. So

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I brought, you know, we were there Saturday.

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I took her out. We did tons of acclimation and

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literally like I took her out three or four times

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in between, like throughout the day. And I never

00:20:24.549 --> 00:20:27.710
got full, full engagement from her. Like she

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still needed to like look into the environment.

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So going in Sunday morning, I still wasn't a

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hundred percent sure I was going to show her.

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But when I went in Sunday morning, I, again,

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I got there super fucking early. Like first one

00:20:42.809 --> 00:20:46.819
there, got her in the building. did my acclimation,

00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:52.299
full engagement, no problem. She was happy. She

00:20:52.299 --> 00:20:55.859
was offering. She was getting vocal, which is

00:20:55.859 --> 00:20:57.900
what she tends to do because she's getting really

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excited. Her arousal was up. She wanted to work.

00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.819
And I was like, OK, she's good. But then as more

00:21:06.819 --> 00:21:09.240
and more people started to filter into the building,

00:21:09.500 --> 00:21:11.380
you know, the day starting to get busy, people

00:21:11.380 --> 00:21:14.460
are coming in. I knew that was going to. be a

00:21:14.460 --> 00:21:16.640
shift change for her. And I wanted to make sure

00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:18.900
she could still, so I had to acclimate her again,

00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.539
right? My class started at 855. So I'm pulling

00:21:22.539 --> 00:21:25.599
her out again, knowing purposely people are coming

00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:27.720
in and out of the door, the bathroom door swinging

00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:29.799
open. I knew that was going to be hard for her,

00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:34.569
brought her out. Um, and I, you know, she definitely

00:21:34.569 --> 00:21:37.029
did some looking, it took a little bit longer

00:21:37.029 --> 00:21:40.049
to acclimate her, but then she totally dialed

00:21:40.049 --> 00:21:43.609
in again. She gave me the same thing eventually

00:21:43.609 --> 00:21:45.349
as she did first thing in the morning when the

00:21:45.349 --> 00:21:48.250
building was pretty empty. Um, and that's when

00:21:48.250 --> 00:21:50.609
I knew, you know, she was definitely engaged.

00:21:50.849 --> 00:21:53.670
She was ready to work. She was ready to handle

00:21:53.670 --> 00:21:56.349
the environment and give me a hundred percent

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engagement and focus. So that was a big thing

00:22:00.289 --> 00:22:03.980
for her. Yeah. And I think people don't. Well,

00:22:04.099 --> 00:22:06.200
so we should go. You made a really good point.

00:22:06.299 --> 00:22:08.000
Like, what does it look like? Right. Because

00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:12.400
what I see happen a lot is, you know, handlers

00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:16.140
walking the dog around or standing, whatever

00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:18.920
dog looks at them for a split second and they

00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.720
go, yes. And then they give them a cookie and

00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.859
then they're like, OK, let's go. Right. But like

00:22:24.859 --> 00:22:28.420
if first of all, I want my dog to look at me

00:22:28.420 --> 00:22:31.920
for more than a second, you know. for several

00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:36.099
seconds, like with intensity, and then I might

00:22:36.099 --> 00:22:38.960
go, good dog, or yes, maybe I'll reinforce them.

00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:43.140
Then do they check immediately back in again

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and look at me with intensity? Or do they immediately

00:22:46.859 --> 00:22:50.240
go back to looking at the environment? Guess

00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:54.079
what? If they do that, they're not ready, right?

00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:59.220
Do they walk around and do I start say, oh, I

00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:02.059
think you're ready. And I start warming my dog

00:23:02.059 --> 00:23:05.259
up and my dog keeps disengaging and looking around.

00:23:05.299 --> 00:23:08.339
Guess what? I'm aborting because my dog is not

00:23:08.339 --> 00:23:12.400
ready. Right. If I find that I'm saying to my

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.519
dog, hey, look, look over here, look over here,

00:23:15.579 --> 00:23:18.279
look over here. Guess what? I'm nagging. My dog

00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.799
is not ready. Right. My dog is not giving me.

00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:27.160
full engagement. So it may look like my dog and

00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.740
my dog might think it's ready. My dog might try

00:23:29.740 --> 00:23:32.259
and then I might go, all right, let's go. And

00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:36.359
then dog can go, ah, yeah, I can't yet. Right.

00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.180
And we have to respect that because if we don't

00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:42.579
respect that, first of all, it's infringing on

00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:45.640
the relationship. But second of all, You're not

00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:48.980
getting 100 % out of your dog. And then you're

00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:50.839
going to be frustrated and you're going to be

00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.200
nagging the dog and neither of you are going

00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.180
to be having fun. It's not worth it. Yeah. And

00:23:56.180 --> 00:23:58.339
that like that this weekend was stormy. Like

00:23:58.339 --> 00:24:00.680
that was a big thing. Like I had to put that

00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.940
in my head. I paid my entry fee. You know, I

00:24:03.940 --> 00:24:07.539
I'm there with her hoping she's entered in novice.

00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:10.559
I'm hoping to this was her last leg. So, of course,

00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.039
I'm like, I want to just get her title and all

00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:16.599
that's on the plate. Right. But I in my head,

00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:20.779
I had I prepared myself mentally like. If she

00:24:20.779 --> 00:24:24.750
can't. acclimate if she can't handle the environment

00:24:24.750 --> 00:24:28.529
and work and give me what I need for her to be

00:24:28.529 --> 00:24:32.630
successful and and most importantly comfortable

00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:36.329
working in that environment I was absolutely

00:24:36.329 --> 00:24:38.750
ready to just bag it and that would have been

00:24:38.750 --> 00:24:42.210
fine right and that's the hard part because that's

00:24:42.210 --> 00:24:46.099
where that agenda comes in like And I hear that

00:24:46.099 --> 00:24:48.140
like that. I think people always say that like

00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:50.680
they're like, oh, what a waste of an entry fee.

00:24:50.819 --> 00:24:54.500
Like, but it's really like you got to be willing

00:24:54.500 --> 00:24:56.680
to whether you're going to train in a parking

00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.940
lot and a new training place or even at a trial,

00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.440
like at any given moment, like I'm reading my

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.700
dog, my dog's well -being mentally and physically

00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:13.400
come first and foremost before my own. agenda

00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.019
and goals right that's got to be really put out

00:25:16.019 --> 00:25:20.220
there because and it's the longevity too of my

00:25:20.220 --> 00:25:24.279
dog's career like I want her to have good experiences

00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:28.519
everywhere I train especially at a trial venue

00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.759
you know that's that's just really important

00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.240
to me and the reality is you're not going to

00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:40.299
get the performance you want Exactly. So if your

00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:43.799
dog is not fully acclimated, if your dog isn't

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.140
able to let go of the environment and focus 100

00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:48.779
percent on you, then guess what? You're not going

00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:51.440
to be happy with the performance anyway. Right.

00:25:51.779 --> 00:25:54.079
It's never going to be what you want. Like you

00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.279
can't force you can't push through that. You

00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:01.839
can't force that. Like it just it never works.

00:26:01.900 --> 00:26:04.660
It's you're going to get a dog that has even

00:26:04.660 --> 00:26:08.210
if your dog is well trained and obedient. Right.

00:26:08.269 --> 00:26:12.109
And you say, let go of the environment. And dogs

00:26:12.109 --> 00:26:15.089
like or you say, don't look. And the dog says,

00:26:15.230 --> 00:26:17.950
fine, I'm not looking. That does not mean they

00:26:17.950 --> 00:26:21.829
have their attention isn't split. Right. They're

00:26:21.829 --> 00:26:25.170
either going to be still distracted, like Zaina

00:26:25.170 --> 00:26:27.829
has the ability to stare right into my eyeballs

00:26:27.829 --> 00:26:31.029
and be fully thinking about something that's

00:26:31.029 --> 00:26:34.960
going on in the environment. Right. Like. She

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:39.640
did that the other day. She's so funny. Like

00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.920
right as I'm getting ready to go in the ring,

00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:45.819
chaos erupts in the rally ring. And when I say

00:26:45.819 --> 00:26:49.460
chaos, I'm talking about, look, I'm not throwing

00:26:49.460 --> 00:26:51.700
shade on anyone, but there should be a volume

00:26:51.700 --> 00:26:58.740
limit, right? Like, talk, talk. And she's like,

00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:03.140
what? She thinks that's so fascinating. She's

00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:05.269
like, what? what is happening over there? And

00:27:05.269 --> 00:27:08.490
I look at her and I go, don't do it. Cause literally

00:27:08.490 --> 00:27:11.710
they're calling my number, right? So she's staring

00:27:11.710 --> 00:27:15.589
into my eyeballs, but both ears are pinned to

00:27:15.589 --> 00:27:19.970
the back of her head. And I know that every like

00:27:19.970 --> 00:27:25.029
99 .9 % of her brain power at that moment is

00:27:25.029 --> 00:27:32.450
on the rally ring and not on me. So now. obviously

00:27:32.450 --> 00:27:34.349
I didn't have an option. I had to go in the ring,

00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:38.430
but my point is like, she can be in that moment.

00:27:38.529 --> 00:27:41.950
She's being obedient and doing what I'm, what

00:27:41.950 --> 00:27:44.930
she is quote unquote supposed to do, but I do

00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:48.950
not have her full attention. Right. Right. So

00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:55.289
that's not optimal, you know, and if you, and

00:27:55.289 --> 00:27:58.829
that's not what we want right in training or

00:27:58.829 --> 00:28:04.009
in the ring. So Ideally, that didn't happen right

00:28:04.009 --> 00:28:06.269
before we went in the ring. And I, you know,

00:28:06.269 --> 00:28:11.950
do whatever I need to do to get her off that

00:28:11.950 --> 00:28:16.289
thing in the environment and back on to the task

00:28:16.289 --> 00:28:20.190
at hand. Right. And that's what we often don't

00:28:20.190 --> 00:28:23.650
give our dogs the opportunity to do. And then

00:28:23.650 --> 00:28:27.609
it negatively impacts their work. And then we're

00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:30.880
frustrated and we're annoyed. And we're disappointed

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.420
or we're like, I don't understand. We're confused.

00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:38.140
And really, the dog just didn't have enough time.

00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:40.759
And I think, you know, like you mentioned about

00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.220
reading the dog, all this has to be established

00:28:43.220 --> 00:28:46.660
in training, right? In training is where you

00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:51.440
need to learn to read your dog because they're

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.279
all going to be different. You know, how much

00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.500
acclimation does this dog need? What does this

00:28:57.500 --> 00:29:01.220
dog look like? When it's not ready, what does

00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:04.339
this dog look like when it is ready? And you

00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:06.960
determine that by the work and maybe you'll make

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.240
a mistake. Oh, I thought they were ready, but

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.500
boy, that training session was kind of a disaster.

00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.640
Hmm, maybe I should have waited longer. All right,

00:29:14.660 --> 00:29:19.140
next time, let me wait longer, right? Was it

00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.799
better? There's a lot of experimentation that

00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.049
has to go into that and they change. A green

00:29:27.049 --> 00:29:32.410
dog, like Stormy, is typically going to require

00:29:32.410 --> 00:29:36.730
way more acclimation. What you described is pretty

00:29:36.730 --> 00:29:42.029
typical for all of my novice dogs, where I take

00:29:42.029 --> 00:29:44.829
them out, acclimate, they're not ready, put them

00:29:44.829 --> 00:29:47.849
away. Wait 15 minutes, take them out again, acclimate,

00:29:48.049 --> 00:29:50.390
not ready. Wait a half hour, take them out again,

00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:55.730
acclimate. That's very common, right? That's

00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:58.690
not at all unusual. Take a more seasoned dog.

00:29:58.769 --> 00:30:02.309
Maybe they acclimate quickly. Maybe, maybe in

00:30:02.309 --> 00:30:05.829
general, they tend to acclimate more quickly,

00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:09.529
but you can never assume because like you said,

00:30:09.730 --> 00:30:14.470
certain environment, certain day, it could be

00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:18.890
totally different. Right. And we have to understand

00:30:18.890 --> 00:30:24.440
that they are living, breathing, feeling. beings.

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:29.539
Right. And just like us, like, it just makes

00:30:29.539 --> 00:30:32.180
me crazy. Like people come in, they'll go, yeah,

00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.859
I messed that up or yeah, I'm not on my game

00:30:35.859 --> 00:30:38.819
or yeah, whatever excuse. Okay. That's great.

00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:42.259
And that's valid. We're human. We vary. Well,

00:30:42.339 --> 00:30:47.400
why is that not okay for the dogs? It's the same.

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.160
Like maybe they're tired. Maybe they're not feeling

00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.960
good. Maybe who knows what. Maybe for whatever

00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.039
reason, there's something in the environment

00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.640
that we don't see, that we don't hear, that we

00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.500
don't smell that is making them worried, nervous,

00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.599
uncomfortable, super curious, super interesting.

00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.900
Just because we don't see it, smell it, hear

00:31:11.900 --> 00:31:15.319
it, understand it does not mean that that is

00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.619
not having an impact on the animal. Yeah, 100%.

00:31:20.009 --> 00:31:23.009
A hundred percent. And another thing to know

00:31:23.009 --> 00:31:26.490
alongside that is, you know, there has to be,

00:31:26.549 --> 00:31:31.109
there has to be along the way, the training put

00:31:31.109 --> 00:31:35.470
in like the development of the engagement between

00:31:35.470 --> 00:31:39.089
you and your dog. Right. So like in all reality,

00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:43.170
you know, if, if you don't have engagement in

00:31:43.170 --> 00:31:46.579
a sterile. environment or a super comfortable

00:31:46.579 --> 00:31:49.720
environment with zero to minimal distractions

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.740
like your house you can't expect the dog to go

00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:56.119
to a new place especially like a trial environment

00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.400
and be able to work under those conditions with

00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.799
any sort of engagement like that's got to be

00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.420
said too because I think that's a big a big gap

00:32:05.420 --> 00:32:09.119
that happens is you know which is a whole engagement

00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.960
series we need to do we talked about doing but

00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.259
that's that's something to be said like If you,

00:32:15.259 --> 00:32:17.599
if you, you know, if you can't get engagement

00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:23.240
in a really low key, minimal distraction place,

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:28.099
like how can you expect your dog to engage in

00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:31.059
a, in a more distracting place, a harder venue?

00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.180
Well, and if you do have good engagement at home,

00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.640
like I may have great engagement at home when

00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.119
I take my dog to a new place, especially a green

00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.220
dog. Like I do not expect them to work there

00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:49.900
like they do at home. My expectation is if I

00:32:49.900 --> 00:32:53.440
can get a tiny little bit of engagement for like

00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.779
a minute, I'm good and I'm out. Because that

00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:02.119
has to be built up. Like what we're asking our

00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:08.859
dogs to do is focus intently on a task for a

00:33:08.859 --> 00:33:13.460
sustained amount of time. in a very distracting

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:16.900
environment and tune that all out. That is hard

00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:20.180
for humans. It is incredibly hard for animals,

00:33:20.299 --> 00:33:26.380
right? And it's a skill that they have to learn

00:33:26.380 --> 00:33:31.119
and build and grow and develop over time. And

00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.259
people go there and they expect the dog to work

00:33:34.259 --> 00:33:37.380
just like at home. And that's completely unrealistic.

00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.279
Like that's not. at all I can't tell you how

00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.079
many times I go to places with green dogs and

00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.980
I it takes it might take me 20 minutes half an

00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.660
hour one way and the amount of work I might get

00:33:53.660 --> 00:33:56.380
might literally be a few minutes and I'm good

00:33:56.380 --> 00:34:00.640
with that right like and if it's too hard you

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.079
need to move somewhere a little easier like we

00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:08.360
have to be realistic and fair and understand

00:34:09.670 --> 00:34:14.150
what we're asking them to do and respect that

00:34:14.150 --> 00:34:17.030
okay if you can't do it then that means it's

00:34:17.030 --> 00:34:20.030
too hard it doesn't matter what I think it matters

00:34:20.030 --> 00:34:22.769
what the dog thinks it matters what the dog's

00:34:22.769 --> 00:34:27.409
experiencing not what we think or what we're

00:34:27.409 --> 00:34:32.969
experiencing right right um and yeah it's something

00:34:32.969 --> 00:34:37.219
that you need to work on and practice all the

00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:41.179
time for months and years I do I'm working on

00:34:41.179 --> 00:34:43.780
it for years before I even think about doing

00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:46.340
it at you know expecting my dog to do it at a

00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:50.079
trial right and there is also benefit to going

00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.800
to trials like if you have another dog entered

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.159
you should be working your on acclimation with

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.639
your green dog there if not you should be going

00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.019
to trials if you're not entered and just work

00:35:02.019 --> 00:35:05.099
you know work on acclimating your dog there because

00:35:06.010 --> 00:35:10.329
It's a unique environment with lots of dogs,

00:35:10.429 --> 00:35:15.769
lots of people, sounds, stress in the air. Right.

00:35:15.869 --> 00:35:19.989
And your dog has to learn to be, it has to become

00:35:19.989 --> 00:35:25.510
comfortable with that. Right. Yeah. That's, that's

00:35:25.510 --> 00:35:28.050
important. And we do like we, that's when we

00:35:28.050 --> 00:35:30.369
get puppies, the puppies go everywhere with us

00:35:30.369 --> 00:35:33.449
because we just, we start. we start acclimating

00:35:33.449 --> 00:35:36.449
them to those kinds of environments really early

00:35:36.449 --> 00:35:39.309
and working on that and you know along with their

00:35:39.309 --> 00:35:42.929
engagement and um yeah they go everywhere with

00:35:42.929 --> 00:35:47.949
us for sure yeah so i think the key is a we need

00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:52.150
to we need to establish a routine we need to

00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:56.070
do that when you go to an all the time like because

00:35:56.070 --> 00:35:59.349
the routine is also it's information right it

00:35:59.349 --> 00:36:02.909
tells the dog this is what we're doing like when

00:36:02.909 --> 00:36:06.230
I um like the other day I went to the Home Depot

00:36:06.230 --> 00:36:09.690
parking lot which my dogs are used to going to

00:36:09.690 --> 00:36:11.849
places like that to do obedience well guess what

00:36:11.849 --> 00:36:17.150
I was doing nose work so how does my dog know

00:36:17.150 --> 00:36:21.570
right or if I go to a park to do nose work and

00:36:21.570 --> 00:36:25.809
my dogs run there off leash how the hell does

00:36:25.809 --> 00:36:28.570
my dog how do i how can i expect my dog to do

00:36:28.570 --> 00:36:32.269
nose work and not think it's like here to run

00:36:32.269 --> 00:36:35.769
around like a lunatic right so i have to have

00:36:35.769 --> 00:36:41.030
a very clear routine because that routine is

00:36:41.030 --> 00:36:44.769
information that routine says to my dog this

00:36:44.769 --> 00:36:48.650
is what we're doing so my dog can then go oh

00:36:48.650 --> 00:36:54.800
okay Got it. I understand. Right. It could be

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.960
the leash you put on. It could be, you know,

00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.039
kind of like what you do coming out of the car,

00:37:01.219 --> 00:37:05.820
the sequence of events that you have to be super

00:37:05.820 --> 00:37:09.659
mindful of that because it's information. And

00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:13.159
our dogs rely heavily on that because absent

00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.119
that information, you're making a whole hell

00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.880
of a lot of assumptions. And the poor animal

00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:23.199
is like in the dark. It does not know, you know,

00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.400
and that's on us. That's very, very, very important.

00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:32.139
I remember the Tyler, I used to do field work

00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:35.639
with him. And I remember the first time because,

00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:37.500
you know, look, I didn't know what the hell I

00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:40.239
was doing. So I go to this outdoor obedience

00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.420
trial. I take him out of the car and he goes,

00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:52.940
field work. And I go, oh, shit, because I didn't

00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:57.239
know I didn't have a plan. I didn't didn't think

00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.079
I didn't know. So I was like panic mode. Oh,

00:38:01.179 --> 00:38:05.300
God. Now what do I do? Right. So took me a long

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:09.059
time, you know, got his head on straight, whatever.

00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:13.599
But boy, was that a lesson? I was like, OK. Next

00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.679
time you enter an outdoor show, maybe you better

00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.719
have a plan and maybe better put some things

00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.420
in place. So your dog knows which thing we're

00:38:23.420 --> 00:38:30.619
actually doing. Right. Lesson learned. Poor dogs.

00:38:30.699 --> 00:38:34.539
These poor dogs. Poor dogs. But we we have to

00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:38.380
look at it from their viewpoint. Right. They

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:42.869
are in a vacuum. Yeah. The only thing they have

00:38:42.869 --> 00:38:46.170
to go on is context and cues. And if the context

00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:49.989
says one thing and we don't give them any information

00:38:49.989 --> 00:38:52.570
saying, no, no, no, it's not that it's this other

00:38:52.570 --> 00:38:56.809
thing. Well, we can't really get, you know, upset

00:38:56.809 --> 00:39:00.170
with the dog when the dog's like, I don't know

00:39:00.170 --> 00:39:02.510
what we're doing. Right. Or I think we're doing

00:39:02.510 --> 00:39:04.730
this. And you're like, no, no, no, no. We're

00:39:04.730 --> 00:39:12.010
doing that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So we didn't even

00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:14.590
get to warm up, which is perfectly fine because

00:39:14.590 --> 00:39:18.250
we can just do that completely separately. But

00:39:18.250 --> 00:39:20.730
I think the acclimation piece in and of itself

00:39:20.730 --> 00:39:25.650
is huge. And like I said, lately, especially

00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:32.630
and really having my students spend more time

00:39:32.630 --> 00:39:36.590
on it. And saying, no, no, no, no. Like, don't

00:39:36.590 --> 00:39:39.150
ask your dog to start working. Wait for your

00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:43.670
dog to tell you they're ready to start. That

00:39:43.670 --> 00:39:48.409
shift has had everyone waiting way longer than

00:39:48.409 --> 00:39:53.369
they usually do. But the results are pretty spectacular.

00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:57.010
And they're all seeing that. And then that makes

00:39:57.010 --> 00:40:02.570
them willing to wait. Yeah, that length of time,

00:40:02.650 --> 00:40:07.190
because they're like, oh, I get it. It's totally

00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:10.489
worth it. Like, yeah, no one enjoys standing

00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:17.789
around or walking in circles. Like the time.

00:40:19.170 --> 00:40:26.309
But it's worth it. And and yeah. How we get them

00:40:26.309 --> 00:40:28.929
to start that, that we'll talk about that at

00:40:28.929 --> 00:40:31.710
some point in like an engagement series, but

00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:37.289
definitely. Yeah. Give your dog enough time to

00:40:37.289 --> 00:40:41.690
get acclimated and give them a routine. So they

00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:44.030
know what the heck is happening. That's right.

00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:49.969
That's right. Okay. Good. That was good. All

00:40:49.969 --> 00:40:53.269
right. Thanks everybody. Happy training. Bye.

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:53.809
Bye.
