WEBVTT 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:13.119 Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Canine Connection 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:17.519 podcast. Today, Lori and I, we're not really 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:18.920 sure what we're going to talk about, but we're 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.859 going to start with talking about what we did 00:00:21.859 --> 00:00:26.339 this past weekend, which is I drove up to Lori's 00:00:26.339 --> 00:00:31.420 place in Connecticut because she was hosting 00:00:31.420 --> 00:00:36.380 a seminar on Mondio Ring, which is like, well, 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:38.219 what the heck is that? I mean, I don't think 00:00:38.219 --> 00:00:40.320 we have to get in too much detail, but it's it. 00:00:40.670 --> 00:00:43.109 It's predominantly known as one of the bite sport, 00:00:43.289 --> 00:00:49.429 you know, sports. There are several. But this 00:00:49.429 --> 00:00:52.210 one is the one you should go and look it up because 00:00:52.210 --> 00:00:55.369 if you like to do proofing, which I love to do, 00:00:55.509 --> 00:00:59.979 I would like find these little TikToks. of them 00:00:59.979 --> 00:01:03.939 doing these crazy Mondio ring proofing things. 00:01:04.099 --> 00:01:06.780 And then I would send it to my two training partners 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:08.760 and we'd be like, and they're like, oh, we got 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:12.980 to try that this weekend. They do all kinds of 00:01:12.980 --> 00:01:18.640 crazy distractions. But I also sign my dogs up 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:27.840 for bite work. People are like. Why are you going 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.620 to do Mondio ring now? Which I could, if I, you 00:01:31.620 --> 00:01:35.579 definitely could. Well, I mean, I just meant 00:01:35.579 --> 00:01:37.719 with my breed, like you don't have to have like 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.319 a shepherd or a mound. Well, that's the great 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.659 thing about Mondio ring because they are so welcoming 00:01:44.659 --> 00:01:48.400 to all breeds. Like that's kind of like what 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.260 I think. is attractive to a lot of people because 00:01:52.260 --> 00:01:55.260 the other sports like French ring and stuff, 00:01:55.340 --> 00:01:58.379 like it's predominantly, you know, mouths and 00:01:58.379 --> 00:02:02.579 shepherds and Dobermans, the typical breeds you 00:02:02.579 --> 00:02:05.500 would see pointy eared breeds, but Mondio has 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:07.560 become like, it's really nice because Mondio 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.319 has become like, you know, like just all American 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.620 rescue. Like they welcome everybody to try to 00:02:14.620 --> 00:02:17.259 participate in it. So that's. Yeah. And you can 00:02:17.259 --> 00:02:21.419 do, I think IGP. has one has a little bit of 00:02:21.419 --> 00:02:24.539 this but anyway you could do just the so they 00:02:24.539 --> 00:02:28.280 have an obedience portion a jumping portion and 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:34.719 a um the bite protection portion and you could 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.159 just do like the obedience portion yeah right 00:02:39.580 --> 00:02:43.639 If you wanted so or you could just do the jumping 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.780 and blah, blah, you know. So, I mean, mainly 00:02:46.780 --> 00:02:49.379 I just did it because I just thought it would 00:02:49.379 --> 00:02:56.139 be fun. My dogs love to tug. Zaina, like is very 00:02:56.139 --> 00:02:59.879 they're pretty confident dogs. And I thought 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:03.379 they would like the bite work. I figured if they 00:03:03.379 --> 00:03:07.020 didn't like, who cared? Like, you know, it's 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:10.060 fun to do something where there's like no pressure. 00:03:10.219 --> 00:03:12.360 I don't really have to take tons of notes. Like 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.219 I could just go and we could just do it. Right. 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:22.020 No, my dogs love bite work. Yeah. I was going 00:03:22.020 --> 00:03:24.419 to ask if your arms were sore from holding back. 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:30.740 Well, what what so so what I really liked is 00:03:30.740 --> 00:03:34.139 a couple of things. One is it was another reminder 00:03:34.139 --> 00:03:37.139 that training is training, right? Like good training 00:03:37.139 --> 00:03:41.620 is good training. So they don't just say, OK, 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:46.479 man is going to stand here in a suit and say, 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.039 OK, dog, go bite the man. Right. Like. They broke 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:54.340 it down just like we would, the way Lori and 00:03:54.340 --> 00:03:56.860 I train, like any task, we would break it into 00:03:56.860 --> 00:04:02.360 little pieces, right? And just slowly build confidence 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.479 on that. So they're like, here's a little sleevy 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.020 thing. Petra, you tug with your dog with it. 00:04:09.060 --> 00:04:12.080 So your dog's comfortable with it. And then, 00:04:12.099 --> 00:04:16.899 okay, now. You put the dog on a harness and like 00:04:16.899 --> 00:04:19.079 I hold them back and they tease the dog, get 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.600 the dog excited. And then they build up piece 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.939 by piece by piece. Right. I mean, Zesty did build 00:04:24.939 --> 00:04:28.160 up to biting the guy with the sleeve, obviously 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.600 on the arm and on the leg. But the other thing 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:35.000 that they're really into, I don't know if it's 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.339 the whole sport or if it's just these trainers, 00:04:37.420 --> 00:04:42.100 but they want it. It's not about aggression at 00:04:42.100 --> 00:04:47.620 all. It's just about fun. They want the dog happy. 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.720 They want the dog having a good time. They want 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.120 the dog comfortable. So they were really looking, 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.079 you know, to make sure the dogs were each step 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.540 happy and having a good time. Not they weren't 00:05:03.540 --> 00:05:08.360 trying to build aggression in the dog. Yeah. 00:05:09.290 --> 00:05:11.870 That that, you know, and I don't really know. 00:05:11.930 --> 00:05:13.990 I'm not that familiar with the sport either. 00:05:14.050 --> 00:05:18.069 You know, I know these two well enough knowing 00:05:18.069 --> 00:05:21.769 that that's how they train. So I wouldn't I wouldn't 00:05:21.769 --> 00:05:23.870 be able to say overall that's how it works. But 00:05:23.870 --> 00:05:30.410 I do know from just knowing some people in Mondio 00:05:30.410 --> 00:05:35.720 that it is like they definitely focus. highly 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.660 on making sure the dogs are having fun it's not 00:05:38.660 --> 00:05:41.959 about aggression or building them up to that 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.399 aggression point where the dog's just you know 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.980 that wanting to bite out of just I want to kill 00:05:48.980 --> 00:05:53.279 you it's just for fun they do it in a and what 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.720 was really good what was really great because 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.300 we talk about this all the time is reading the 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:03.339 dog like even you know these guys talked about 00:06:03.339 --> 00:06:06.000 that a lot they're constantly assessing when 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.399 they took dogs out like they took my puppy out 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.899 who had never done it they're assessing they're 00:06:12.899 --> 00:06:16.279 evaluating where the dog's state of mind is during 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.779 the whole process of introducing them to it um 00:06:19.779 --> 00:06:23.500 and then they would absolutely like react and 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:27.180 adjust according to just like we do right you 00:06:27.180 --> 00:06:29.060 know making sure that the dog's in the right 00:06:29.060 --> 00:06:33.740 mindset um It was just, it was impressive. I 00:06:33.740 --> 00:06:36.279 was really, it was really cool. It was really 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.439 awesome. Yeah. And I think it was real. I think 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:43.860 what the bite work did, I will say, holy Hannah, 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:49.240 like Zesty's tugging differently. Not an OMG. 00:06:51.240 --> 00:07:04.500 Yes. You need to get a sleeve. He's like. And 00:07:04.500 --> 00:07:08.220 even and then I'm like, well, you know, yes. 00:07:08.899 --> 00:07:11.939 So yesterday I was like, well, it's in the yard. 00:07:12.540 --> 00:07:17.439 And then I went to this like the you know, the 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:20.540 outside of the supermarket today. And he was 00:07:20.540 --> 00:07:27.439 like, game on. So I do think like. If you have 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.720 someone you could work with that you trust with 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.139 bite work, that's really good. I think it could 00:07:34.139 --> 00:07:37.399 serve two purposes. One, like for Zaina, it was 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:42.540 the most fun day of her life. She was like, I 00:07:42.540 --> 00:07:46.480 get to do this thing and bark and bite and like 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:51.560 tug. And so I for sure, like I have friends that 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.939 are in the area that I trust. Like I made a mental 00:07:54.939 --> 00:07:58.009 note. to touch base with her and be like, hey, 00:07:58.050 --> 00:08:00.189 can I just come over? Like, I don't know, every 00:08:00.189 --> 00:08:03.110 once in a while, like as a reward, as a like 00:08:03.110 --> 00:08:06.509 change of pace. Yeah. Just do like a bite work 00:08:06.509 --> 00:08:10.170 session with the two of them. Like just as like 00:08:10.170 --> 00:08:14.129 a release, just something fun to do. For Zesty, 00:08:14.230 --> 00:08:20.189 I do feel like it really strengthened his tugging. 00:08:20.189 --> 00:08:22.529 So if you have a dog and you're like, well, I'd 00:08:22.529 --> 00:08:26.129 like them to tug more like Zesty. Until recently 00:08:26.129 --> 00:08:29.149 would always prefer food over toy. I'm like, 00:08:29.149 --> 00:08:31.649 geez, I should have done this like two years 00:08:31.649 --> 00:08:34.889 ago because I do think it would have gotten him 00:08:34.889 --> 00:08:40.269 to choose toy over food. Right. It really brought 00:08:40.269 --> 00:08:43.549 that out, whether it's like confidence, you know, 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:50.149 or whatever the technique. So I thought both 00:08:50.149 --> 00:08:55.309 those things were interesting and. um something 00:08:55.309 --> 00:08:58.389 to think about right and like it just gives them 00:08:58.389 --> 00:09:00.830 a nice mental break like it's something they're 00:09:00.830 --> 00:09:04.950 enjoying and having fun doing and there's really 00:09:04.950 --> 00:09:10.649 absolutely no pressure no really no rules per 00:09:10.649 --> 00:09:16.710 se right um I agree it's kind of the same it's 00:09:16.710 --> 00:09:19.330 the same as us like we do the same things all 00:09:19.330 --> 00:09:23.049 the time and then sometimes like we want to go 00:09:23.049 --> 00:09:25.629 do like we need to take a break and go do something 00:09:25.629 --> 00:09:28.509 just for fun you know a recreational thing like 00:09:28.509 --> 00:09:31.789 I think so too like to step away and just go 00:09:31.789 --> 00:09:37.509 have something else to let the dogs do that's 00:09:37.509 --> 00:09:40.809 so enjoyable I feel like it like I feel like 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:45.549 was zesty it like unleashed something in him 00:09:45.549 --> 00:09:49.870 like where now I don't know like with what you're 00:09:49.870 --> 00:09:52.210 saying like with his tug and stuff I don't know 00:09:52.210 --> 00:09:54.309 like there's those little seeds that are already 00:09:54.309 --> 00:09:57.629 in there genetically and I think things can like 00:09:57.629 --> 00:10:04.870 just you know nurture those little things in 00:10:04.870 --> 00:10:08.190 them and like, it's just going to like unleash 00:10:08.190 --> 00:10:10.730 it. I don't know. I just think that can happen. 00:10:11.330 --> 00:10:16.250 Yeah. So, um, so those things were to me like, 00:10:16.309 --> 00:10:22.450 um, super interesting. And then as like, honestly, 00:10:22.570 --> 00:10:25.850 if I was retired, I would seriously like maybe 00:10:25.850 --> 00:10:29.049 just once in a while go drop in on a training. 00:10:29.110 --> 00:10:31.950 Cause So the way they're, especially the obedient, 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:35.870 well, all their trials have like themes and it's 00:10:35.870 --> 00:10:39.309 all about distraction, right? Like really, if 00:10:39.309 --> 00:10:43.230 you break it down, like everything is each trial, 00:10:43.429 --> 00:10:46.289 they never know what they're going to get. They 00:10:46.289 --> 00:10:48.429 never know what kind of distractions they're 00:10:48.429 --> 00:10:52.710 going to get. And they do crazy distractions. 00:10:52.929 --> 00:10:56.129 Like I felt like, holy Hannah, like I need to. 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:02.860 step up my game. I was like, dude, like I'm like, 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.539 wait till Thursday. Like we're going to, it's 00:11:06.539 --> 00:11:09.220 going to be a whole new thing, but you know. 00:11:09.789 --> 00:11:12.690 It's just like anything, if it's done right, 00:11:13.129 --> 00:11:16.070 that like the dogs just think it's fun. And I 00:11:16.070 --> 00:11:18.970 knew Zaina would like it because Zaina, I think 00:11:18.970 --> 00:11:21.730 she just finds obedience boring. Like I wish 00:11:21.730 --> 00:11:23.990 they would just do distractions and obedience 00:11:23.990 --> 00:11:28.769 like in the ring because she loves it. And I 00:11:28.769 --> 00:11:33.750 mean, they did the food refusal. I was afraid 00:11:33.750 --> 00:11:36.350 to do it with Zesty. I'm going to have to work 00:11:36.350 --> 00:11:40.899 on it separately. They literally like if you 00:11:40.899 --> 00:11:42.860 go on my Facebook page and look at the video, 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:46.940 they like they like pretend they're eating and 00:11:46.940 --> 00:11:50.580 then they like throw the food. They drop it like 00:11:50.580 --> 00:11:53.820 on their paws right in front of their mouth. 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.919 They do all kinds of crazy shenanigans. And I 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.279 was like, I don't know if Dana can do this. Of 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.600 course, you know, if I did it at home, she'd 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.600 probably eat everything. But like she's like. 00:12:06.299 --> 00:12:09.840 I have an audience. Yeah. No. That's right. I'm 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.960 going to show these stupid humans like what I 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.440 can do. And then like positions. Sometimes the 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.179 handler has to like lay on the floor and then 00:12:21.179 --> 00:12:23.840 sit on a chair and then wear a funny hat and 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.899 then do this thing and do that crazy thing. In 00:12:26.899 --> 00:12:30.559 addition to distractions. Yeah. Being around. 00:12:30.779 --> 00:12:34.580 And so I'm like. OK, like I know she can do it 00:12:34.580 --> 00:12:37.460 with all kinds of shenanigans, but I'm like, 00:12:37.500 --> 00:12:40.299 I've never done it like laying on the floor or 00:12:40.299 --> 00:12:46.700 sitting up. She did it. Little bitch. She did 00:12:46.700 --> 00:12:49.080 it. Well, that's her training coming out, too. 00:12:49.179 --> 00:12:52.340 You know, she's like totally fully trained. She's 00:12:52.340 --> 00:12:55.360 and you've proved her enough and she loves it. 00:12:55.460 --> 00:12:58.840 That that dog rises to the challenge, man. yeah 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.659 so the harder you're gonna make it the more she's 00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:05.820 gonna bring it that dog she's so funny so um 00:13:05.820 --> 00:13:09.779 so yeah they do like tons and tons of proofing 00:13:09.779 --> 00:13:12.860 thing but the the key there is and this is like 00:13:12.860 --> 00:13:16.320 um what I think people can benefit from because 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.960 humans are creatures of habit right and I feel 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.240 like I've mentioned this before but like you 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:29.059 know if you're training with somebody and they're 00:13:29.059 --> 00:13:32.419 distracting you, pay attention because they'll 00:13:32.419 --> 00:13:37.259 have a tendency to kind of distract a similar 00:13:37.259 --> 00:13:42.419 way all the time. And the dog picks up on that 00:13:42.419 --> 00:13:46.220 pattern. So with my two Thursday training partners, 00:13:46.419 --> 00:13:51.419 we strive to do different things all the time, 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:55.000 whether it's different things. items we bring 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:59.740 to training or just different things we do as 00:13:59.740 --> 00:14:04.899 a person, right? Like we try to do it different 00:14:04.899 --> 00:14:07.440 all the time. And so in Mondial Ring, the distraction 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.559 at a trial is never going to be the same and 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.980 they strive to be. completely different so that 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:20.620 the dog's never seen it before which means for 00:14:20.620 --> 00:14:23.440 training you have to be super creative and show 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:29.440 your dog as many different things as humanly 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:35.700 possible right yeah the so their trials are always 00:14:35.700 --> 00:14:41.879 um themed so every trial is themed and then like 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:47.419 it's literally like They create like, it's like 00:14:47.419 --> 00:14:51.000 a theater stage. It's crazy. People are dressed 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:58.139 up. They've got props. They've got like, I mean, 00:14:58.179 --> 00:15:00.460 one of the scenarios she was describing, just 00:15:00.460 --> 00:15:02.480 to give everybody an example, was when she went 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.740 to Spain. It was like a shipwreck theme, she 00:15:06.740 --> 00:15:11.240 said, and they had to do their sit -stay. The 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.169 dogs had to be on this. angulated plank which 00:15:15.169 --> 00:15:18.330 was two different materials the dog had to sit 00:15:18.330 --> 00:15:25.169 there then the plank started to vibrate and then 00:15:25.169 --> 00:15:27.769 under the handler out of sight with the handler 00:15:27.769 --> 00:15:30.169 out of sight the dog has to sit on the plank 00:15:30.169 --> 00:15:33.309 up in the air on an angle the plank starts to 00:15:33.309 --> 00:15:37.450 vibrate and then she said whale noises they played 00:15:37.450 --> 00:15:41.190 whale noises coming from underneath the plank 00:15:41.889 --> 00:15:48.769 And then a fog machine turned on. Crazy. That's 00:15:48.769 --> 00:15:50.649 what I was like, oh boy, we got a really hard 00:15:50.649 --> 00:15:54.610 game. But they never know. The thing is, they 00:15:54.610 --> 00:15:58.549 don't know what's coming. And, you know, yes, 00:15:58.710 --> 00:16:01.149 like you're never going to be able to fully replicate 00:16:01.149 --> 00:16:03.870 all of that. Like you're not, you're just not 00:16:03.870 --> 00:16:06.409 going to think of everything. But the fun of 00:16:06.409 --> 00:16:11.399 it to me is, is like. getting in like tapping 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:16.820 into that creativity of what can we like I sat 00:16:16.820 --> 00:16:20.399 there and I'm like you know we proof but you're 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.220 right like we kind of get stuck in the same pattern 00:16:23.220 --> 00:16:26.240 like somebody throws a dumbbell somebody waving 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.480 their arm somebody's calling commands like pretending 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.299 they're in the other ring but we really like 00:16:32.299 --> 00:16:39.950 I'm like I I am lame this is lame I was like 00:16:39.950 --> 00:16:43.990 we are lame -os I we gotta up the game man and 00:16:43.990 --> 00:16:47.110 really because it is like the and you could see 00:16:47.110 --> 00:16:51.610 like her dog the dog her dog was like I mean 00:16:51.610 --> 00:16:54.830 it was just I don't know the dog like was obviously 00:16:54.830 --> 00:16:58.710 is very highly trained and and it has been doing 00:16:58.710 --> 00:17:02.350 this for a while now but you could see the joy 00:17:02.350 --> 00:17:05.759 in it they have they do the um What was the one 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:09.059 that she had to do? The object guard. Like, that 00:17:09.059 --> 00:17:11.559 was one. Oh, yeah. That was really cool. So fun. 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.180 Like, I'm just like, how do you teach that? Like, 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.900 it's so cool. Where the dog, they put an object 00:17:17.900 --> 00:17:20.880 down. It could be anything. So, again, they don't 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.500 know what it's going to be. They're handed it. 00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:25.160 I think they handed it, right? And they have 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.839 to walk it out to the field. The dog has to put 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:32.710 it on it. It's some big thing. They used, well, 00:17:32.769 --> 00:17:35.329 it was your thing, right? This giant stuffed 00:17:35.329 --> 00:17:38.089 thing that you have. Yeah, I have this huge giant 00:17:38.089 --> 00:17:44.089 stuffed duck. So they demoed on that. And yeah, 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:46.690 so the dog has to guard it pretty much, right? 00:17:46.829 --> 00:17:52.690 So the dog can't be pulled off the item. So the 00:17:52.690 --> 00:17:57.410 decoy's job is to try to kind of trick the dog. 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.599 into luring the dog off the item so like they 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:03.319 could potentially steal it from the dog like 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.680 that's kind of the game that's what i would call 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.079 it like it's a total game it's so fun to watch 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.579 that really cool yeah it's really cool and i 00:18:11.579 --> 00:18:16.920 think the thing is with our sport i think people 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:20.160 um with a lot of sports people underestimate 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.720 The challenges, right? Like people always look 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:26.940 at everything like from a human perspective, 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.940 right? Like, oh, it looks the same. But like 00:18:30.940 --> 00:18:33.980 everything you do, whether it's obedience, rally, 00:18:34.180 --> 00:18:37.720 hunt, everything, it's different every time from 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:40.079 a dog's perspective. It smells different. It 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:43.640 sounds different. There are different. visual 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:49.380 pictures right and dogs innately are not not 00:18:49.380 --> 00:18:54.019 good people at generalizing so no you can't prepare 00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:56.259 your dog for everything but if you're changing 00:18:56.259 --> 00:19:01.059 what you do all the time then your dog learns 00:19:01.059 --> 00:19:04.480 the concept that no matter what happens no matter 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:08.859 what I hear no matter what I see no matter what 00:19:08.859 --> 00:19:14.769 I smell I need to stay on task Right. Then when 00:19:14.769 --> 00:19:17.750 something unique does happen and it will happen 00:19:17.750 --> 00:19:20.150 forever. I've been doing this for decades. I 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:23.170 go to trials and routinely something happens 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:30.190 that's never happened before. Right. And. Like 00:19:30.190 --> 00:19:33.650 my dogs, I expect them to just be like, yeah, 00:19:33.730 --> 00:19:39.849 whatever about it, because my goal is to expose 00:19:39.849 --> 00:19:45.549 them to so many. different things that when something 00:19:45.549 --> 00:19:47.569 different happens, they're just like, oh, yeah, 00:19:47.589 --> 00:19:50.250 it's another one of those crazy, weird things, 00:19:50.329 --> 00:19:53.650 you know, these crazy humans do to try to mess 00:19:53.650 --> 00:19:56.789 me up. And the other part of it is and well, 00:19:56.910 --> 00:19:58.630 we should probably have a whole episode just 00:19:58.630 --> 00:20:01.569 on proofing like you want to make it a game, 00:20:01.650 --> 00:20:04.450 right? That's that's what it's all about. That's 00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:07.130 why Zaina thinks it's so fun. And Zesty now is 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:10.250 starting to think it's fun, too, because. It's 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:13.609 a game. Like if you present, if you teach it 00:20:13.609 --> 00:20:17.349 as a game, not as a way to make the dog wrong, 00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:21.910 not as a trap to catch the dog and then, you 00:20:21.910 --> 00:20:25.269 know, mess the dog up. It's a way for the dog 00:20:25.269 --> 00:20:29.049 to win the challenge. Then the dogs rise to the 00:20:29.049 --> 00:20:32.730 occasion and they love it. And they think it's 00:20:32.730 --> 00:20:35.369 super fun and it makes them really confident 00:20:35.369 --> 00:20:39.450 and empowers them. Yeah. It totally does. It 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:41.930 absolutely does. And that's the thing. Like, 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:45.990 it's just like, no, you know, you're just, I 00:20:45.990 --> 00:20:48.190 don't know, you're just generalizing, like no 00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:51.250 matter where we go and what happens, unless you 00:20:51.250 --> 00:20:53.430 feel like your life's in danger, obviously, you 00:20:53.430 --> 00:20:56.230 know, you just keep doing the thing. We do it 00:20:56.230 --> 00:20:58.369 everywhere and this could happen and that could 00:20:58.369 --> 00:21:00.769 happen and we just keep going. And then the dogs 00:21:00.769 --> 00:21:04.329 totally learn that. The approach we take in doing 00:21:04.329 --> 00:21:06.609 that is we set, you know, yeah, we definitely 00:21:06.609 --> 00:21:09.990 should do a proofing episode for sure. It's just 00:21:09.990 --> 00:21:16.839 done so mindfully. It's just we want the like 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.619 just like we talked about in the beginning, like 00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:21.660 we want the dogs to be happy and confident and 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:24.400 we're reading them and assessing them. And obviously, 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:27.960 if it gets way too hard, you know, we just back 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:32.519 off of it, you know, and layer it back on as 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:34.500 the dog becomes more confident because that's 00:21:34.500 --> 00:21:36.819 really what we want to do. And that's what they 00:21:36.819 --> 00:21:40.680 do. Like, that's what. they did this weekend 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.779 they talked about a lot of that and how they 00:21:42.779 --> 00:21:45.220 like which was really impressive like they spent 00:21:45.220 --> 00:21:49.000 time talking to us on how they you know where 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:51.819 they want the dogs to be comfortable this is 00:21:51.819 --> 00:21:56.759 how we start things um and I don't know I just 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.720 it was really good it was good it's so funny 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:04.619 like I was at this trial and I'm sending I have 00:22:04.619 --> 00:22:08.589 Zane I'm sending my articles right And I'm like, 00:22:08.630 --> 00:22:11.589 I'm getting annoyed because I'm like, what the 00:22:11.589 --> 00:22:16.269 fuck is going on? There's like, but I'm not going 00:22:16.269 --> 00:22:18.470 to look, right? Because I'm looking at her. She 00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:20.670 looks at me. I don't look away. But something 00:22:20.670 --> 00:22:23.569 sounds like it's like moving all over the place 00:22:23.569 --> 00:22:26.549 and whatever. And I look at her and she's not 00:22:26.549 --> 00:22:29.289 even registering it, right? So I'm like, whatever. 00:22:29.369 --> 00:22:30.849 I'm not even going to worry about it. So I stopped 00:22:30.849 --> 00:22:33.569 thinking about it. So I sent the article. She 00:22:33.569 --> 00:22:35.950 gets the first article, sending the second article. 00:22:36.009 --> 00:22:38.410 And all of a sudden the judge is like, oh, my 00:22:38.410 --> 00:22:43.710 God, I can't take it. She's like, that's making 00:22:43.710 --> 00:22:48.549 me crazy. I go, yeah, what is it? So there is 00:22:48.549 --> 00:22:52.009 like a little dog in like a very kennel type 00:22:52.009 --> 00:22:54.930 crate. And it's like flipping out and the crates 00:22:54.930 --> 00:22:59.890 rolling around. It's like mass chaos the whole 00:22:59.890 --> 00:23:05.650 time. I'm sending the article and it was so bad 00:23:05.650 --> 00:23:07.650 that this judge, I know this judge, like she 00:23:07.650 --> 00:23:09.589 doesn't usually care about stuff was getting 00:23:09.589 --> 00:23:13.829 like so annoyed and like frustrated. Right. And 00:23:13.829 --> 00:23:17.910 distracted basically. And Zaina is just like, 00:23:18.009 --> 00:23:21.269 nothing's going on in her mind. Like she's not 00:23:21.269 --> 00:23:23.650 even doing that, which sometimes what she does, 00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:25.769 if it's something she's interested in, she, her 00:23:25.769 --> 00:23:27.650 eyes get really big and she looks at me and she's 00:23:27.650 --> 00:23:29.910 like, did you hear that? Did you hear that? And 00:23:29.910 --> 00:23:32.500 I look at her like, don't. don't do it right 00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:36.759 no she it was not even on her radar she was like 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:40.099 I have no time for that that those shenanigans 00:23:40.099 --> 00:23:42.400 over there I'm just like as you're talking I'm 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.359 thinking about you sending articles and then 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:47.559 the fog machine goes off oh my god we have to 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.680 buy a fog machine that's what we're I'm gonna 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.359 go on Amazon and look up a fog machine yeah but 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:58.279 it's like that's the type of stuff You want, 00:23:58.380 --> 00:24:01.779 and you know what? It's fun, right? Like, because 00:24:01.779 --> 00:24:06.099 it's all in your mindset. Like at home, I drop 00:24:06.099 --> 00:24:12.119 things and they fall down the stairs, right? 00:24:12.220 --> 00:24:15.480 Well, Zayden, bless his heart, he would pick 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.539 up anything under the sun. He would pick up a 00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:19.460 spoon. He would pick up a dime. Like he would 00:24:19.460 --> 00:24:22.740 pick up anything, right? Well, when he died, 00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:25.940 well. Now I drop something, go, none of my dogs 00:24:25.940 --> 00:24:29.500 will pick anything else up. Right. So they look 00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:32.539 at me like there's no dumbbell. Screw you. Right. 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.740 So I'm at, so we're at this thing and I guess 00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:38.920 in the Mondial, they have to do a retrieve, but 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:40.839 they never know what the out just going to be. 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.140 And it could be a toy. It could be something 00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:47.299 super weird. It could be. literally literally 00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:50.299 anything under the sun right so they're like 00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:52.400 oh let's see if i'm like she's not gonna pick 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:54.619 anything up well of course she made a liar out 00:24:54.619 --> 00:24:58.099 of me right and i'm like and i'm thinking about 00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:01.640 it and i'm like if she's picking up all this 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:07.119 random stuff and i'm so delighted i'm like she 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.720 did it and everyone's like wow and then she she 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.299 goes to get this squeaky toy i'm like 300 she's 00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:15.779 gonna squeak she doesn't squeak i'm like wow 00:25:15.779 --> 00:25:19.599 and everyone's like so happy and i'm like that's 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.819 the attitude people need to have like that's 00:25:22.819 --> 00:25:25.839 how we are when we proof our dogs right like 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:30.359 all of us like if any of our dogs does like masters 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:35.980 the challenge immediately all of us go Wow. And 00:25:35.980 --> 00:25:41.220 the dog's like, hey, not just my mom, but everybody 00:25:41.220 --> 00:25:46.119 thinks I'm amazing right now. And they absolutely 00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:50.440 pick up on that, like 300%. And Zaina was just 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.380 like, ha ha ha ha. Like, pick up the spoon, pick 00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:57.619 this up, pick that. And her little face when 00:25:57.619 --> 00:25:59.839 she came in to me, she's looking at me like, 00:25:59.940 --> 00:26:06.420 I did it. Yeah. So proud of herself. And I know 00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:09.660 a big part of it is because everybody at the 00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:12.759 seminar was like, wow. Like everybody was like, 00:26:12.819 --> 00:26:16.380 she did it. Oh, she didn't squeak. Oh. And they, 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:21.880 they love that. The dogs really like that. Well, 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.240 just to people just get too freaking serious 00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.079 when they're training their dogs. Yeah, they 00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:29.720 absolutely do. For sure. It's supposed to be 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.279 fun. Like if you're not having fun, then why 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.380 the heck are you doing it? And why are you spending 00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:37.019 so much fucking money on it? That's what I always 00:26:37.019 --> 00:26:39.740 say. I know we say that all the time. Yeah, it's 00:26:39.740 --> 00:26:44.200 just supposed to be fun. Right. And so. Yeah. 00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:48.339 So they had a blast and we had a blast. I, it 00:26:48.339 --> 00:26:51.319 was, and I, it was the same for me. Like I was 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.460 so excited for weeks and weeks. I'm like, I can't 00:26:54.460 --> 00:26:57.119 wait to go because it was something that was 00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.940 with the dogs, but there was absolute, it was 00:26:59.940 --> 00:27:03.119 something different and something where it was 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.599 just for fun. Right. There was like no training, 00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:13.730 no pressure, no nothing at all. Like. just you 00:27:13.730 --> 00:27:16.430 know if they did it they did it if they didn't 00:27:16.430 --> 00:27:18.950 do it they didn't do it like whatever if they 00:27:18.950 --> 00:27:20.789 did the food thing and she would have eaten the 00:27:20.789 --> 00:27:22.609 food she would have eaten the food like whatever 00:27:22.609 --> 00:27:26.490 you know or if she didn't pick up the object 00:27:26.490 --> 00:27:28.930 she wouldn't have picked up the object whatever 00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:35.250 you know um so i think that's important for handlers 00:27:35.250 --> 00:27:40.839 as well as the dogs right to um to have that 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.359 break. Like just do something like, yeah, fun. 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.819 Try something or whatever. Um, just something 00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:51.400 different and just learn about that sport. And 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.960 I'm not going to lie. I'm like super tempted, 00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.240 but Jesus, there's like only so many hours in 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.400 the day because of course they sucked me in. 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.519 Why? Cause they're like, Oh, Zaina could get 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.059 her obedience. Mondial one, like right now she 00:28:06.059 --> 00:28:09.220 could do all the exercises. I'm like, And then 00:28:09.220 --> 00:28:10.980 and then one of them's like, oh, you know, there's 00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:13.900 one in Warwick, New York at the end of the May. 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.920 And I'm like, oh, I didn't even know they were 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.279 telling you that. Oh, yes. They're like, she 00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.119 could do it right now. I'm like, because apparently 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:26.259 like the food thing they did was really hard. 00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:28.640 The position they did was hard. Her healing, 00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:30.920 you know, she's not going to look around. Then 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.000 the go out, their go out is different. Oh, yeah. 00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:37.279 So she's so I just demoed it. And then she goes. 00:28:37.609 --> 00:28:39.509 they don't sit them they just call them back 00:28:39.509 --> 00:28:42.970 so i tried it she did it yeah um she's like she 00:28:42.970 --> 00:28:44.750 could do it right now i'm like no there's like 00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:46.829 yeah she could and then one of the others you 00:28:46.829 --> 00:28:48.829 know there's one in warwick new york at the end 00:28:48.829 --> 00:28:52.890 of the month and then i'm like really why not 00:28:54.910 --> 00:28:58.529 You should totally do it. Yeah, I have to see. 00:28:58.650 --> 00:29:01.009 Well, because you know what? Because I have to 00:29:01.009 --> 00:29:03.190 register her, which is not a big deal. But then 00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:06.210 I guess she needs like a CGC or something like 00:29:06.210 --> 00:29:08.509 that, which I don't have. OK, well, that would 00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:11.950 take 2 .2 seconds. I know. I just have to find 00:29:11.950 --> 00:29:14.630 a place to do whatever. So we'll see. Maybe we'll 00:29:14.630 --> 00:29:18.450 do it when you come here in May. Maybe I'll do 00:29:18.450 --> 00:29:21.470 it. Oh, because you do the. Oh, because you can 00:29:21.470 --> 00:29:24.960 do it. Yeah. I'll have to look it up, but anyway, 00:29:25.099 --> 00:29:28.579 it's just, it was just really funny. Um, and 00:29:28.579 --> 00:29:32.400 it was fun. And so like a lot of just good little, 00:29:32.460 --> 00:29:39.180 um, takeaways and, you know, um, Again, with 00:29:39.180 --> 00:29:41.740 Mondio, with doing it with different dog snacks, 00:29:42.299 --> 00:29:44.900 what breed is Snacks again? I love that dog. 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.420 He's so cute. He's just a little, well, she says 00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:49.640 he's a little mix, but he's like a little working 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.539 line cocker. That's what he looks like a little 00:29:52.539 --> 00:29:56.640 bit. And he's doing that. Is that her primary 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:03.359 sport right now? No, she dabbles in AKC, Mondio, 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.500 and agility. So she just kind of pings around. 00:30:07.369 --> 00:30:11.130 But she's doing stuff with that little dog. Yeah. 00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:16.809 And and so that's super, super fun. And so, yeah, 00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:19.410 like and they're definitely like, you know what 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:24.450 else I liked about them? Like what can you what 00:30:24.450 --> 00:30:26.549 are their names and can you like spell it? Because 00:30:26.549 --> 00:30:29.630 we keep saying them, them. Yeah, it's Annalise 00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:35.690 Johnson. It's A -N -N -E -L -I -E -S -E Johnson. 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:40.099 And her husband, Kellen, is the D -Y. Yep. K 00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:43.380 -E -L -L -E -N. Yep. Kellen. Like, they were 00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:47.160 not, they were totally into the other breeds. 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.519 Totally. They were fantastic. Like, they're totally 00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.720 fine with snacks. You can see they really enjoy 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.819 working with him. Yep. I mean, who couldn't with 00:30:57.819 --> 00:31:02.460 a dog named Snacks, but. I know. And he's a little 00:31:02.460 --> 00:31:06.279 pistol. Oh, my God. I love him. You know, so 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.160 they're totally fine with working with other 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.539 breeds. I felt like they were getting a complete 00:31:12.539 --> 00:31:17.980 kick out of watching because Mary's lab, Watson, 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.259 he got into the bite work. She's like, I want 00:31:21.259 --> 00:31:23.599 to build his confidence, build his confidence. 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:35.859 He was like, game on. He was like, finally. um 00:31:35.859 --> 00:31:39.380 and they you could tell they were getting they 00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:42.859 got a kick out of it oh totally they weren't 00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:49.859 like oh god you know we you know we were used 00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:56.819 to um mouths and shepherds and whatever and no 00:31:56.819 --> 00:32:01.670 they were like Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, 00:32:01.769 --> 00:32:05.470 like, there's, you know, they're, not only, like, 00:32:05.529 --> 00:32:09.609 they do, they welcome all breeds, all temperaments, 00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:12.690 all everything. But, yeah, and you'll see, like, 00:32:12.769 --> 00:32:16.710 there are, like, I know, I know Kate has sold 00:32:16.710 --> 00:32:19.630 a couple of her dogs to people who are doing 00:32:19.630 --> 00:32:22.910 Mondio. Like, they got dogs from her just for 00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:26.200 that because they love their labs and that. Those 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:30.059 field dogs, some of those, those breedings, they 00:32:30.059 --> 00:32:32.640 bring it. The genetics are there to build it 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.980 for sure. Like, look at your dogs, you know? 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.420 Yeah. I'm just too afraid to do bite, like real 00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:42.779 bite work, bite work because of just, you know, 00:32:42.779 --> 00:32:45.700 from doing rehab for so many years, I rehabbed 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:53.720 so many dogs that competed. holy hand and and 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.819 you know and even dogs that where I had clients 00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:00.900 that religiously conditioned their dogs and brought 00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:03.339 them in for maintenance and the dogs would still 00:33:03.339 --> 00:33:07.180 get hurt yeah you know um Because when they're 00:33:07.180 --> 00:33:10.720 doing full on bite work, like running and then 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.339 hitting the sleeve, it's so hard on their body. 00:33:14.420 --> 00:33:19.119 And you rely, you're really, your dog's entire 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.980 wellbeing is placed in the hands of the decoy. 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.079 That's what the person's called that wears the 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.119 suit, right? Because there's such an art to it. 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.680 And we did talk about that too. Cause when he 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:33.460 demoed it with her dog, like you see how athletic 00:33:33.460 --> 00:33:35.730 they, they have to be unbelievable. incredibly 00:33:35.730 --> 00:33:38.369 athletic yeah they have to be quick and it's 00:33:38.369 --> 00:33:42.069 all in how they present their body yeah to make 00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:45.769 the bite safe and how they it's called catch 00:33:45.769 --> 00:33:48.049 the dog so as soon as the dog hits the sleeve 00:33:48.049 --> 00:33:50.950 you don't want to be a brick wall right you need 00:33:50.950 --> 00:33:55.450 to like move in a certain way to absorb and lessen 00:33:55.450 --> 00:33:59.490 the impact on the dog's body and it's like it's 00:33:59.490 --> 00:34:04.410 on it's an art form really like and If they do 00:34:04.410 --> 00:34:08.170 it incorrectly, your dog could literally have 00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:11.630 pretty catastrophic injuries. Yeah, for sure. 00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:16.570 And so you're really relying on, especially at 00:34:16.570 --> 00:34:19.389 a trial, like if you train, you could say, okay, 00:34:19.429 --> 00:34:21.250 I'm only going to train with certain people because 00:34:21.250 --> 00:34:25.809 I trust them. But at a trial, you know, you have 00:34:25.809 --> 00:34:29.570 to kind of put your... dog in that person's hands 00:34:29.570 --> 00:34:33.449 and for me just for me personally that's too 00:34:33.449 --> 00:34:36.510 scary it's like if I had I think if I had not 00:34:36.510 --> 00:34:40.630 done rehab I probably would be doing it right 00:34:40.630 --> 00:34:47.349 yeah yeah but um I'm too scared yeah Well, and 00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:49.349 that's what makes it nice with Mondio because 00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.150 you can do the obedience track and not have to 00:34:52.150 --> 00:34:53.969 do the great work track. And then you just need 00:34:53.969 --> 00:34:56.250 to find somebody with a sleeve and you can just 00:34:56.250 --> 00:34:58.550 let them bite them a little bit. And just let 00:34:58.550 --> 00:35:01.849 them bite the sleeve a little bit. Because they 00:35:01.849 --> 00:35:04.789 liked it. They liked the bitey stuff. They really 00:35:04.789 --> 00:35:07.969 liked it. Yeah. And again, it's not aggression. 00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:12.380 Right. You know, it's just fun. She was looking, 00:35:12.500 --> 00:35:16.179 she was watching and saying like, see, she actually, 00:35:16.179 --> 00:35:19.559 they were super happy. I think it was his last 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.599 leg bite. He actually didn't growl and he was 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.019 really calm. He was biting, but he was very like 00:35:29.019 --> 00:35:31.099 calm about it. And she's like, see, that's what 00:35:31.099 --> 00:35:35.239 we like. So they're really looking for, you know, 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:39.659 they're not looking to get the dog. aggressive. 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.780 And it's like you said, they're watching their 00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:46.340 emotional state. And yeah, so it's kind of cool 00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:49.699 to see that in a different, you know, looking 00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.559 at things that you and I look at in detail all 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.280 the time and see people doing that in a completely 00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.599 different sport and in a sport that from the 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.940 outside could be very misunderstood. Right. And 00:36:02.940 --> 00:36:05.659 interpreted as just something that involves. 00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:14.340 aggression and biting yep absolutely yeah yeah 00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:19.219 so it was super fun super fun weekend yeah um 00:36:19.219 --> 00:36:22.280 i told laurie that after the noc we should have 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.800 them again just so our dogs could have another 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.659 like fun day we definitely should so fun well 00:36:30.659 --> 00:36:33.960 what would be nice is to do it try to coordinate 00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.360 something like on a field where they can really 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.679 bring some of the stuff. Yeah. Some of those 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:43.739 distractions. You have to like heal the dogs 00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:48.239 over like enormous logs and stuff. Like there's 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.280 like really cool stuff. Like we didn't even touch 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.159 on any of that. Like they brought a couple of 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.559 things, props, but some of the stuff, like the 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.619 healing stuff, the component of healing where 00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:00.320 they have to heal, how they have to heal, what 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.010 they have to heal through is so cool. So we could 00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:06.110 do that. I'll touch base with her. Cause see 00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:08.289 if we can set something up. Yeah. Because that 00:37:08.289 --> 00:37:11.769 would be fun just to be like, throw those challenges 00:37:11.769 --> 00:37:14.750 at us. And then we can do their sendaways are 00:37:14.750 --> 00:37:17.570 so cool. Like, yeah, we should totally do that. 00:37:17.590 --> 00:37:19.530 Cause there are four and like, yeah, that will 00:37:19.530 --> 00:37:22.769 be just a fun thing for our dogs to do. And it's 00:37:22.769 --> 00:37:24.849 fun for us. Like you said, and when we're having 00:37:24.849 --> 00:37:28.590 fun, the dogs are feel that and they have fun. 00:37:28.590 --> 00:37:32.780 Right. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. So that 00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:36.159 will be a fun thing to do. So, hey, if you have 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.219 a chance to go do something like that, go do 00:37:40.219 --> 00:37:43.039 it. You know, have an open mind. Just have fun. 00:37:43.139 --> 00:37:47.320 Do something different and up your proofing game, 00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:50.679 people and all your sports. It's fun. Like, it's 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.619 just fun, you know. So, yeah. And then we'll 00:37:55.619 --> 00:37:57.940 have to have a proofing episode because, God, 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.789 I love proofing. I'm like obsessed with it. And 00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:04.750 now I'm having people do it with their puppies, 00:38:04.829 --> 00:38:08.429 like, from day one. And the puppies are doing 00:38:08.429 --> 00:38:14.510 amazing. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks for indulging 00:38:14.510 --> 00:38:19.929 our talking about our recreational sidekick things. 00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:25.909 All right. Thanks for listening, everybody. Bye. 00:38:26.190 --> 00:38:26.829 Bye.