WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.319 Welcome back to Zero Signal. I'm your host, David, 00:00:02.379 --> 00:00:04.459 and tonight we're going to walk into one of the 00:00:04.459 --> 00:00:07.280 most radioactive what -ifs of the last century, 00:00:07.459 --> 00:00:09.900 a theory that refuses to die no matter how many 00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:12.359 official reports say the story is over. You've 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:14.919 seen the memes, the YouTube thumbnails, the TikToks 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:17.300 with grainy black and white photos. Adolf Hitler 00:00:17.300 --> 00:00:19.760 didn't die in a bunker. He escaped. He slipped 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:22.039 through the ruins of Berlin, rode a rat line 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:23.719 out of Europe, and ended up in the mountains 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.719 of Argentina or hiding in some sleepy South American 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.059 town. Most of us were taught one clean ending 00:00:29.059 --> 00:00:30.940 in school. What we're going to do tonight is 00:00:30.940 --> 00:00:32.479 something different, not announce a verdict, 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.320 but lay out the long, weird trail of documents, 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.240 eyewitness accounts, submarines, secret files 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.719 that keep this story alive for a lot of people. 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:42.880 We're not here to tell you how he did escape 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.000 or how he didn't. We're here to show you why 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.740 80 years later, so many of us are still asking. 00:00:47.820 --> 00:01:19.500 the same question. many secrets and I'm about 00:01:19.500 --> 00:01:21.640 to take you to see one of them between the never 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.140 ending flow of beer to the restaurants dedicated 00:01:24.140 --> 00:01:27.519 to the art of the sausage to the lush green forests 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.480 blanketing this town. You might guess that I'm 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.760 in Germany. But you're totally wrong. I'm all 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.239 the way in Argentina. This is Villa General Belgrano. 00:01:37.659 --> 00:01:40.099 It's a small town nestled in the Sierra Mountains 00:01:40.099 --> 00:01:42.219 of Cordoba, which is a province right in the 00:01:42.219 --> 00:01:44.219 center of the country. And even though this town 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:47.620 is only home to about 6 ,000 people, it's known 00:01:47.620 --> 00:01:50.659 for holding one of the biggest Oktoberfests in 00:01:50.659 --> 00:01:53.640 the world. Every year, thousands of people come 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.400 here from around the world to take part in the 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:58.120 beer making and worst traditions that dominate 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:05.500 this town. There are many locals here that continue 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:07.840 to maintain German traditions. There's a group 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.479 that has built a German community center and 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.979 they hold special German events using typical 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:16.280 traditional German clothing like Oktoberfest. 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.099 Villa General del Grano is one of the few historically 00:02:19.099 --> 00:02:21.979 German speaking villages at DOT Argentina. And 00:02:21.979 --> 00:02:24.080 while visiting here may seem like all fun and 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:27.060 games, this tiny town is home to a dark history 00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:31.819 that many know little about. It was an escape 00:02:31.819 --> 00:02:34.680 haven for the Nazis. Some even say that Hitler 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:40.479 passed through. Let's go back in history. When 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.939 World War II broke out in Europe in 1939, it 00:02:43.939 --> 00:02:46.479 changed the face of the world, even all the way 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:48.759 in the most southern point of Latin America. 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:52.400 Here in Argentina, General Juan Domingo Perón 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:56.180 was rising to power in the 1940s, bringing along 00:02:56.180 --> 00:02:59.120 with him fascist -friendly ideas. And even though 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.360 Argentina appeared to condemn Germany for the 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.000 atrocities committed during the Holocaust, when 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.740 the war ended, a secret apparatus had been set 00:03:06.740 --> 00:03:09.819 into place to help Nazi criminals escape prosecution 00:03:09.819 --> 00:03:14.219 by allowing them to hide in Argentina. From the 00:03:14.219 --> 00:03:16.479 moment they arrived in Argentina, the Nazis spread 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:18.500 across four different points. The most important 00:03:18.500 --> 00:03:21.120 were Buenos Aires, Bariloche, Barrio Rio Negro, 00:03:21.219 --> 00:03:23.379 and right here in Córdoba. What the Nazis were 00:03:23.379 --> 00:03:25.379 looking for when they arrived in Argentina was 00:03:25.379 --> 00:03:27.460 a similar kind of climate and temperatures to 00:03:27.460 --> 00:03:29.699 their homes. Topographically speaking, we're 00:03:29.699 --> 00:03:31.979 talking about mountains and lakes, places that 00:03:31.979 --> 00:03:34.060 look just like Germany and Austria. According 00:03:34.060 --> 00:03:36.719 to historical records, Hitler died in a bunker 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.319 in Berlin in 1945. But there are also theories 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.180 that the Nazi leader actually escaped to Argentina 00:03:43.180 --> 00:03:46.300 that same year in a secret submarine. Some say 00:03:46.300 --> 00:03:49.500 he lived his final years among these very mountains. 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.259 I believe they're more than rumors. Hitler was 00:03:53.259 --> 00:03:55.639 in the province of Cordoba, specifically in a 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.659 town called La Falda. He was there in 1947, according 00:03:58.659 --> 00:04:01.020 to lots of data that I've collected from multiple 00:04:01.020 --> 00:04:03.659 sources in the area. Pablo Weschler is a journalist 00:04:03.659 --> 00:04:06.060 that has been filming a documentary about Hitler's 00:04:06.060 --> 00:04:09.729 alleged escape to Argentina since 2005. And he 00:04:09.729 --> 00:04:13.650 says he has the information to prove it. First 00:04:13.650 --> 00:04:16.430 of all, I traveled to La Falda and I met with 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:18.529 local historians that provided this information. 00:04:18.829 --> 00:04:21.449 I interviewed Miss Catalina Camero, one of the 00:04:21.449 --> 00:04:23.810 only two people who agreed to speak about this. 00:04:24.250 --> 00:04:27.709 She said in 1947 she was a waitress and served 00:04:27.709 --> 00:04:30.810 Adolf Hitler in Hotel Eden in La Falda in the 00:04:30.810 --> 00:04:33.470 course of three days. Hotel Eden is just a couple 00:04:33.470 --> 00:04:36.269 dozen kilometers from Via General Pograno. And 00:04:36.269 --> 00:04:38.470 what is for sure is that Hitler was in the province 00:04:38.470 --> 00:04:41.569 of There are also reports that say the Eichhorn 00:04:41.569 --> 00:04:44.069 family in La Falda were making lots of preparations 00:04:44.069 --> 00:04:47.269 to help Hitler arrive to Hotel Aden. This information 00:04:47.269 --> 00:04:49.970 comes directly from the Americans. The FBI passed 00:04:49.970 --> 00:04:52.170 this information along to Edgar Hoover, who at 00:04:52.170 --> 00:04:54.589 the time was the director of the FBI. Question 00:04:54.589 --> 00:04:56.949 I still have is why didn't they go after him? 00:04:59.589 --> 00:05:03.149 We'll never truly know, but Argentina is a nation 00:05:03.149 --> 00:05:06.730 of complex contradiction. My family is from Cordoba, 00:05:06.730 --> 00:05:09.170 Argentina, and has been here for generations. 00:05:09.850 --> 00:05:12.009 We're Jewish, and luckily for me, my grandmother 00:05:12.009 --> 00:05:14.250 and her immediate family escaped to hear from 00:05:14.250 --> 00:05:18.009 Europe when World War II broke out. That's why, 00:05:18.189 --> 00:05:21.189 as a teenager living in Cordoba, I found Argentina, 00:05:21.389 --> 00:05:24.029 my family's country, a nation full of confusing 00:05:24.029 --> 00:05:27.550 contradictions. In this country, many Jews have 00:05:27.550 --> 00:05:30.850 found a safe haven. But so have many Nazis. Here 00:05:30.850 --> 00:05:33.490 in Villa General del Grano, the village has managed 00:05:33.490 --> 00:05:35.750 to maintain the more charming side of its history. 00:05:36.370 --> 00:05:39.089 In 1932, the village was established by German 00:05:39.089 --> 00:05:41.730 immigrants. And until today, the shops here have 00:05:41.730 --> 00:05:44.350 artisanal products, all sorts of pickled goods 00:05:44.350 --> 00:05:47.800 and chocolates. the vestiges of the town's central 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:52.220 European history. My grandparents came from Germany 00:05:52.220 --> 00:05:54.500 and Austria. They already knew there was a German 00:05:54.500 --> 00:05:56.560 colony here that was looking for new residents, 00:05:56.579 --> 00:05:58.899 and so that's how they came to immigrate to Via 00:05:58.899 --> 00:06:01.259 General Belgrano. We continue maintaining the 00:06:01.259 --> 00:06:03.220 German language in our house. Both my husband 00:06:03.220 --> 00:06:05.600 and I speak German, and we made sure that our 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.800 daughters would also know the language. German 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.019 is no longer the main language that's spoken 00:06:10.019 --> 00:06:12.360 here. Now it's Spanish, but there's no doubt 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.000 that this village remains dependent on its history. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.980 whether or not its true colors are always shown. 00:06:19.859 --> 00:06:21.939 People come here because they're attracted to 00:06:21.939 --> 00:06:24.759 the architecture that looks so European. I'm 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.279 Argentinian. I was born here in this town. So 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.519 I'm more Argentinian than anything else. But 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.259 we have an affinity to our German history. It's 00:06:32.259 --> 00:06:34.500 important to transmit this to our children and 00:06:34.500 --> 00:06:36.660 that they should be proud of the sacrifices that 00:06:36.660 --> 00:06:39.480 their ancestors made to come here and build this 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:41.540 beautiful town. The version you get in history 00:06:41.540 --> 00:06:44.620 books goes like this. In late April, 1945, Berlin 00:06:44.620 --> 00:06:47.199 is collapsing under Soviet artillery. The Red 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.100 Army is closing in on the government quarters. 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:51.740 Block by block, deep underground in the concrete 00:06:51.740 --> 00:06:54.420 Warren or the Fuhrer bunker, Hitler is a wrecked 00:06:54.420 --> 00:06:56.899 figure, physically shaking, paranoid, lashing 00:06:56.899 --> 00:06:59.079 out at generals who no longer command real armies. 00:06:59.220 --> 00:07:02.019 On April 29th, he marries Eva Braun in a tiny 00:07:02.019 --> 00:07:04.600 bunker ceremony, dictates his political testament. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.740 And then the next day, the story says he and 00:07:06.740 --> 00:07:09.060 Eva withdrew to his private room. Moments later, 00:07:09.220 --> 00:07:11.399 a gunshot is heard. Staff in her find Hitler 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:14.180 dead from a gunshot wound and poison. Eva is 00:07:14.180 --> 00:07:16.240 dead also from cyanide poisoning. Their bodies 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.540 are carried upstairs, doused in gasoline. in 00:07:18.540 --> 00:07:20.839 a shattered garden of the Reich Chancellery and 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:23.339 set on fire under incoming Soviet fire. Soviet 00:07:23.339 --> 00:07:25.180 troops eventually take the area, recover the 00:07:25.180 --> 00:07:27.519 charred remains, and announce that Hitler is 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.339 dead. On paper, that sounds like closure, but 00:07:29.339 --> 00:07:31.759 even in 1945, there were cracks. The remains 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.100 are in Soviet hands only. No British or American 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:36.439 team is allowed to independently verify them. 00:07:36.579 --> 00:07:39.000 Stalin himself hints to Western leaders that 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.360 maybe Hitler got away. Soviet press puts out 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.540 confusing, sometimes contradictory accounts. 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:45.800 The body is supposed to have been burned, buried, 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:47.699 dug up again, moved, then quietly destroyed. 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.319 years later by the KGB. What survives, we're 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.639 told, is a jawbone and some dental work in a 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.819 Moscow archive. And for decades, nobody outside 00:07:54.819 --> 00:07:56.839 the Soviet system is allowed to get near them. 00:07:56.899 --> 00:07:59.500 No public autopsy. No photographs of recognizable 00:07:59.500 --> 00:08:02.240 body parts. No court room with Hitler on the 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:04.639 dock. The most hated man of the 20th century, 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.019 the one person everyone would have watched a 00:08:07.019 --> 00:08:09.779 trial for, dies off camera in a locked room controlled 00:08:09.779 --> 00:08:12.420 by one of the least transparent regimes on earth. 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:14.079 You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:16.199 see how this leaves space for doubt. Fast forward 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.430 to the late 20th century. 20th and early 21st 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:20.449 centuries, and you finally get a small burst 00:08:20.449 --> 00:08:22.730 of access, a piece of skull with a bullet hole, 00:08:22.850 --> 00:08:24.910 shown off in Moscow, and said to be Hitler's. 00:08:24.949 --> 00:08:27.089 Turns out, under testing, to belong to a woman, 00:08:27.290 --> 00:08:29.209 the fragment had been presented for years as 00:08:29.209 --> 00:08:31.350 physical proof of Hitler's death. And suddenly, 00:08:31.550 --> 00:08:33.519 it isn't anymore. Russian authorities insist 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.779 that jaw and teeth are still genuine, perhaps 00:08:35.779 --> 00:08:38.360 even if the head bone isn't. And in 2018, a French 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.100 team compares them to wartime x -rays and dental 00:08:41.100 --> 00:08:43.580 charts and concludes they match Hitler's dental 00:08:43.580 --> 00:08:46.159 records, arguing he did in fact die in a bunker. 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.320 But for people who already distrust official 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.879 stories, the fact that one key Hitler skull artifact 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.940 turned out to be someone else's is enough to 00:08:52.940 --> 00:08:55.539 keep the door to escape theory open wide. When 00:08:55.539 --> 00:08:57.879 part of the physical story was wrong or misrepresented, 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.059 what else might be? It would be easy enough to 00:09:00.059 --> 00:09:02.230 fake dental records. To understand why the escape 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:04.409 theory has such staying power. You have to move 00:09:04.409 --> 00:09:06.509 out of Berlin and look what was happening thousands 00:09:06.509 --> 00:09:08.529 of miles away in South America long before the 00:09:08.529 --> 00:09:11.029 war ended. Argentina had a deep German presence 00:09:11.029 --> 00:09:13.490 and a government under Juan Peron that was at 00:09:13.490 --> 00:09:16.129 least sympathetic to parts of the Axis and openly 00:09:16.129 --> 00:09:18.409 welcomed European migrants afterward. Declassified 00:09:18.409 --> 00:09:20.750 material, modern research, so that Argentina 00:09:20.750 --> 00:09:22.850 became one of the main endpoints for rat lines. 00:09:23.250 --> 00:09:26.350 Clandestine escapes routes that move Nazi officials, 00:09:26.669 --> 00:09:29.210 SS officers, and collaborators out of Europe 00:09:29.210 --> 00:09:31.389 using the help of a sympathetic like clergy, 00:09:31.590 --> 00:09:33.730 forged red cross papers, and networks through 00:09:33.730 --> 00:09:36.009 Spain and Italy. In recent years, Argentina has 00:09:36.009 --> 00:09:39.809 been declassifying roughly 1 ,850 documents related 00:09:39.809 --> 00:09:41.750 to these routes. And even unearthed dozens of 00:09:41.750 --> 00:09:44.870 boxes of Nazi -linked material in a Supreme Court 00:09:44.870 --> 00:09:47.149 basement, reinforcing how deeply those networks 00:09:47.149 --> 00:09:49.450 run. We know for a fact that high -ranking Nazis 00:09:49.450 --> 00:09:52.490 like Eekman and Mangeli escaped justice and lived 00:09:52.490 --> 00:09:54.529 there for years in South America. So the question 00:09:54.529 --> 00:09:56.769 people ask is pretty simple. If they could do 00:09:56.769 --> 00:09:58.870 it, why not Hitler? Now add the submarines. In 00:09:58.870 --> 00:10:01.940 July and August of 19... 1945, months after Germany 00:10:01.940 --> 00:10:05.059 surrendered. Two German U -boats, a U -530 and 00:10:05.059 --> 00:10:08.379 a U -977, surfaced off Marndell Plata, Argentina 00:10:08.379 --> 00:10:10.740 and surrendered. On paper, both had plausible 00:10:10.740 --> 00:10:12.720 explanations, confusion over surrender order, 00:10:12.940 --> 00:10:15.799 fear of becoming POWs, decision by their captains 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:17.980 to head for a friendly country instead of giving 00:10:17.980 --> 00:10:20.039 up to the Allies in Europe. But the timing is 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.460 pretty strange. These subs had been at sea for 00:10:22.460 --> 00:10:25.059 a very long time. Their logs raised questions. 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.580 There are gaps, odd routes choices, and in the 00:10:27.580 --> 00:10:30.419 aftermath, rumors, were they carrying gold, secret 00:10:30.419 --> 00:10:32.840 documents from people. Allied interrogators pressed 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.799 the crews hard about whether they had dropped 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.620 someone off, especially Nazi leaders along the 00:10:37.620 --> 00:10:40.720 Argentina coastline or in Patagonia, before turning 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.659 themselves in. Officially, nothing was proven. 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:44.899 Unofficially, the image of German submarines 00:10:44.899 --> 00:10:47.480 gliding up to a remote shore months after the 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:49.980 war ended and quietly discharging passengers 00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:52.379 at night has become one of the more core visual 00:10:52.379 --> 00:10:55.000 beats of the escape story. Those images aren't 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.100 just imagination. Some of them come from actual 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:59.639 eyewitness claims recorded and post -war documents. 00:10:59.779 --> 00:11:01.940 Thank you so much for your time. We have some 00:11:01.940 --> 00:11:05.440 questions for you. If we go back for a moment, 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:10.799 how old were you in 1945? What were you engaged 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:14.360 in? Okay, great. What I'd like to ask you just 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.080 in general terms, what you saw, if anything, 00:11:18.419 --> 00:11:37.370 related to Germans or Nazis in Spain? And these 00:11:37.370 --> 00:11:42.669 Germans were Nazis? Yes. And one of these guys 00:11:42.669 --> 00:11:46.710 was out of here. He was right there. He wasn't 00:11:46.710 --> 00:11:52.049 wearing a mask. So just for clarification, which 00:11:52.049 --> 00:12:21.269 mob? Tell me about the airplane. How many people 00:12:21.269 --> 00:12:23.629 came in that plane? He said it was five people, 00:12:23.710 --> 00:12:26.950 and they were German. Did anybody that you know 00:12:26.950 --> 00:12:30.309 saw Hitler and get off that plane and told you 00:12:30.309 --> 00:12:42.549 this? So if Hitler was on that plane, is that 00:12:42.549 --> 00:12:51.639 what you're saying? was the location of this 00:12:51.639 --> 00:13:00.039 plank. A set of FBI -linked accounts, highlighted 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:02.120 in later books and articles, describe coastal 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:04.379 witnesses in Argentina who say the two German 00:13:04.379 --> 00:13:06.379 submarines surfaced near their shorelines one 00:13:06.379 --> 00:13:09.639 night in 1945, that a group of perhaps 50 people 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:11.899 disembarked in the dark and made their way into 00:13:11.899 --> 00:13:14.320 waiting buses, and that those buses drove them 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.559 inland without any lights or markings. These 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.919 stories are second -hand. and from an historian's 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.100 standpoint, uncooperated. But they existed in 00:13:21.100 --> 00:13:23.100 the official files. Someone sat in front of an 00:13:23.100 --> 00:13:25.100 American or Argentinian official and said, I 00:13:25.100 --> 00:13:27.320 saw this. And that story was serious enough that 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.600 it was typed up, circulated, and in some cases, 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.960 sent across borders. For believers, the blend 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.720 of U -boat reality and a nighttime bus convoy 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.220 feels less like fantasy and more like a partially 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:39.399 uncovered operation. If you follow those buses 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:41.759 in your mind, the trail tends to lead to one 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.200 place, Patagonia, in the mountains around San 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.230 Carlos. German communities and Nazi sympathizers 00:13:47.230 --> 00:13:49.970 really did put down roots. Barloci became known 00:13:49.970 --> 00:13:53.169 as a haven for ex -Nazis. Journalists and historians 00:13:53.169 --> 00:13:56.429 have documented local rumors of former SSF officers 00:13:56.429 --> 00:13:58.629 living there under their own names, and others 00:13:58.629 --> 00:14:00.830 under new identities. There are persistent stories 00:14:00.830 --> 00:14:03.490 of Grand Lakeside estates, sometimes identified 00:14:03.490 --> 00:14:05.929 as specific house, said to have hosted a mysterious 00:14:05.929 --> 00:14:09.490 German VIP with heavy security in the late 1940s 00:14:09.490 --> 00:14:12.250 and early 1950s. Locals talk about supply trucks, 00:14:12.690 --> 00:14:15.149 restricted access, and German speaking guards. 00:14:15.330 --> 00:14:17.450 Some of those stories whispered in bars and passed 00:14:17.450 --> 00:14:19.769 down to families that hidden guest has simply 00:14:19.769 --> 00:14:22.169 been El Jefe, the boss. When later writers went 00:14:22.169 --> 00:14:24.789 back and put a face and a name to the boss, the 00:14:24.789 --> 00:14:27.450 myth of Hitler hiding in Barloche. practically 00:14:27.450 --> 00:14:29.769 wrote itself. Alongside the place -based rumors, 00:14:29.929 --> 00:14:31.990 he had personal I -saw -him accounts. Over the 00:14:31.990 --> 00:14:34.190 years, Argentinas in various towns have told 00:14:34.190 --> 00:14:35.929 reporters or relatives they have encountered 00:14:35.929 --> 00:14:38.470 an older German man with a distinctive mustache 00:14:38.470 --> 00:14:40.809 and presence, guarded by men who look like ex 00:14:40.809 --> 00:14:42.769 -soldiers. None of these accounts rise to the 00:14:42.769 --> 00:14:44.970 level of photographic proof. They are memories, 00:14:45.070 --> 00:14:47.110 often reported decades after the fact, colored 00:14:47.110 --> 00:14:49.669 by local lore and the knowledge that Nazis really 00:14:49.669 --> 00:14:52.049 had lived nearby. But if you're building a conspiracy 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:54.370 narrative, they become puzzle pieces. The submarine 00:14:54.370 --> 00:14:57.460 landings, the nighttime buses, the isolated estates, 00:14:57.620 --> 00:15:00.039 the charismatic foreigner everyone is afraid 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:02.500 to name out loud. If you put them together, you 00:15:02.500 --> 00:15:04.820 get a picture that, while blurry, is emotionally 00:15:04.820 --> 00:15:06.840 convincing to a lot of people. It wasn't just 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.059 locals and bar conversations keeping this rumor 00:15:09.059 --> 00:15:11.440 alive. Western intelligence agencies kept the 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.399 question open for far longer than many people 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.580 realize. The FBI's publicly available Hitler 00:15:15.580 --> 00:15:17.759 file, hundreds of pages you can read today, shows 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:19.539 that in years right after the war, the Bureau 00:15:19.539 --> 00:15:22.019 collected and reviewed a steady stream of reports 00:15:22.019 --> 00:15:23.980 claiming Hitler was alive. Some said he was in 00:15:23.980 --> 00:15:26.320 Argentina, others in Brazil. or elsewhere in 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.360 South America. The FBI treated most of these 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.059 as low probability, but not automatically impossible. 00:15:31.299 --> 00:15:33.799 Memos survived where senior officials acknowledged 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:35.779 that there was no hard evidence of Hitler's death 00:15:35.779 --> 00:15:39.379 available to them in 1945 and 1946, and that 00:15:39.379 --> 00:15:41.340 until they had more, they couldn't absolutely 00:15:41.340 --> 00:15:43.519 rule out that he might have escaped. That's very 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.220 different from saying that they believe he did, 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:47.299 but it shows that for a while, even inside the 00:15:47.299 --> 00:15:49.200 system, he might be out there. Was it considered 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.419 completely crazy? Inside those FBI files are 00:15:51.419 --> 00:15:53.860 specific detailed tips that read like scenes 00:15:53.860 --> 00:15:56.230 from a thriller. one cluster of documents later 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:58.549 publicized in books and articles, an informant 00:15:58.549 --> 00:16:00.870 describes a network that allegedly moved Hitler. 00:16:00.970 --> 00:16:03.549 from a collapsing bunker into an aircraft, then 00:16:03.549 --> 00:16:05.850 into a sub, and finally into Argentinian soil, 00:16:06.029 --> 00:16:08.070 where an estate had been prepared for him. The 00:16:08.070 --> 00:16:10.870 format names people, describes the estate's location 00:16:10.870 --> 00:16:12.970 in terms of rivers and landmarks, and insists 00:16:12.970 --> 00:16:15.490 that local authorities were complicit. The FBI 00:16:15.490 --> 00:16:17.669 doesn't validate this story. Notes attached to 00:16:17.669 --> 00:16:20.009 some memos make it clear the Bureau doubted the 00:16:20.009 --> 00:16:22.110 source's reliability. But the very existence 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:24.370 of these narratives and official channels is 00:16:24.370 --> 00:16:26.549 enough for many listeners to feel that it's kind 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:28.470 of like Perf. Perf that at least some people 00:16:28.470 --> 00:16:31.629 close to the events thought in his plan was technically 00:16:31.629 --> 00:16:33.889 possible, and maybe even in motion. Then there 00:16:33.889 --> 00:16:36.090 are the CIA's documents, which pushed the story 00:16:36.090 --> 00:16:38.529 beyond Argentina and to Colombia. In one now 00:16:38.529 --> 00:16:41.409 famous 1955 memo, declassified and available 00:16:41.409 --> 00:16:44.269 on CIA's reading room site, the CIA station reports 00:16:44.269 --> 00:16:47.450 an informant codenamed Semelody. has passed along 00:16:47.450 --> 00:16:50.409 the claim from a former SS man, Philippe Cotron, 00:16:50.470 --> 00:16:53.009 and Cotron insisted he met Hitler regularly in 00:16:53.009 --> 00:16:55.769 a town called Tijuana, Colombia, where the dictator 00:16:55.769 --> 00:16:59.129 was supposedly living under the alias Adolf Schittlmayer 00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:01.730 in a community of ex -Nazis. The statue in the 00:17:01.730 --> 00:17:04.250 memo is a now widely shared photograph. Two men 00:17:04.250 --> 00:17:06.390 on a bench. One identified as Cotron and the 00:17:06.390 --> 00:17:08.809 other said to be Hitler. Older, heavier, but 00:17:08.809 --> 00:17:11.589 recognizable to those who want to see the resemblance. 00:17:11.690 --> 00:17:13.329 In the back of the photo, the writing supposedly 00:17:13.329 --> 00:17:18.380 reads Adolf Schittlmayer. The CIA doesn't take 00:17:18.380 --> 00:17:20.920 this for gossipable. The memo itself notes that 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:22.779 the source's reliability is unknown and that 00:17:22.779 --> 00:17:24.980 the whole story could be fantastic. Later coverage 00:17:24.980 --> 00:17:27.420 of the document often points out that the CIA 00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:29.480 headquarters essentially filed it away rather 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:31.380 than launching a massive global manhunt. But 00:17:31.380 --> 00:17:33.180 again, if you're paying attention to the pattern, 00:17:33.339 --> 00:17:35.400 you notice certain things. Forma puts his name 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:38.220 on the line. A former SS officer is willing to 00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:41.079 claim in the 1950s that he not only saw Hitler, 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.400 but spoke with him on a monthly basis in South 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:45.599 America. Someone risks stealing a photograph 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:47.839 of this supposed meeting and getting to American 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.859 intelligence. Then years later, that photo ends 00:17:49.859 --> 00:17:52.839 up in a CIA file that the public can read. Regardless 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.220 of whether the man in the picture really is Hitler, 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:57.460 that's an extraordinary chain of belief, action, 00:17:57.599 --> 00:17:59.759 and documentation. The CIA has other material 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.079 in this orb, too. One declassified document simply 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.559 reads, Hitler's hideout in Argentina. It relays 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:06.599 information from a source about a possible Hitler 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.079 refuge in the country, including geographic clues 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.319 and a description of a compound. The memo explicitly 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.460 says the reliability of the source is unknown. 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.920 but it's there in black and white in an official 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.779 CIA file. When people say even the CIA thought 00:18:18.779 --> 00:18:20.940 Hitler escaped, they're usually pointing at pages 00:18:20.940 --> 00:18:23.720 like this. Not a conclusion, not a stamp of certainty, 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:26.019 but evidence that questions could he still be 00:18:26.019 --> 00:18:28.440 alive was investigated at an official level years 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.759 after the war in multiple countries based on 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.380 eyewitnesses or informant claims. Beyond governments, 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.900 there are a lot of private testimonies and local 00:18:35.900 --> 00:18:38.200 legends that swirl around this topic. In those 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.220 German Argentina communities, older residents 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:42.220 sometimes tell stories of a man they weren't 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:44.119 supposed to talk. about. A guest who arrived 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.480 quietly, was surrounded by security, and seemed 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.579 to command difference without any formal title. 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.480 In remote ranches and small hotels, people also 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.460 claimed to have seen sketches or photographs 00:18:53.460 --> 00:18:55.799 long since destroyed. An older man with a familiar 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.019 voice, a barber who was told to shave a mustache 00:18:58.019 --> 00:19:00.160 but not too short. A doctor who swears he was 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.299 asked to treat a patient under a false name with 00:19:02.299 --> 00:19:04.539 the same ailments Hitler was reported to have 00:19:04.539 --> 00:19:06.940 in Berlin. None of these stories stand up as 00:19:06.940 --> 00:19:08.900 evidence on its own, but taken together, they 00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:11.380 form sort of a oral conspiracy archive that can 00:19:11.380 --> 00:19:13.710 be incredibly persuasive if you live inside it. 00:19:13.750 --> 00:19:16.210 Overlay in the human layer is the structural 00:19:16.210 --> 00:19:18.869 one. We know that Argentina and other South American 00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:21.029 countries weren't just randomly attracted to 00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:23.230 fleeing Nazis. They were actively prepared as 00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:25.450 destinations. Recently declassified Argentina 00:19:25.450 --> 00:19:27.890 documents show how officials facilitated the 00:19:27.890 --> 00:19:30.210 arrival and protection of Nazi figures and the 00:19:30.210 --> 00:19:32.750 discovery of more than 80 boxes of Nazi -related 00:19:32.750 --> 00:19:35.450 material propaganda and correspondence in a court 00:19:35.450 --> 00:19:37.670 basement reinforces how extensive those ties 00:19:37.670 --> 00:19:39.569 were. When people argue that Hitler could have 00:19:39.569 --> 00:19:41.470 escaped, they point to this infrastructure. You 00:19:41.470 --> 00:19:43.849 had shipping routes, sympathetic embassies, corrupt 00:19:43.849 --> 00:19:46.230 officials, false identities, money pipelines, 00:19:46.470 --> 00:19:49.309 even pre -war ideology beachheads laid by Nazi 00:19:49.309 --> 00:19:51.650 propaganda in places like Baroloche. It's not 00:19:51.650 --> 00:19:53.589 hard to picture how certain people might have 00:19:53.589 --> 00:19:55.410 been moved along those channels in the order 00:19:55.410 --> 00:19:57.430 that had been given. So what do we do with all 00:19:57.430 --> 00:19:59.910 of this? On one side, you have mainstream historians 00:19:59.910 --> 00:20:02.549 and a body of forensic work saying he died in 00:20:02.549 --> 00:20:05.009 Berlin. We have matching dental records, multiple 00:20:05.009 --> 00:20:07.390 eyewitnesses from inside the bunker. And every 00:20:07.390 --> 00:20:09.930 serious official inquiry has landed on that conclusion. 00:20:10.029 --> 00:20:12.180 On the other, You have unanswered questions about 00:20:12.180 --> 00:20:14.640 Soviet handling of the remains, a misidentified 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.920 skull fragment, German submarines arriving in 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:18.940 South America after the surrender, documented 00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:22.240 Nazi rat lines in Argentina, FBI and CIA files 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.720 full of tips and informant stories, photographs 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.059 from Colombia, and decades of local eyewitness 00:20:27.059 --> 00:20:29.240 claims in two continents. If you want a neat, 00:20:29.380 --> 00:20:31.339 clean answer, this is not the story for you. 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.400 The record here is pretty messy, fragmented, 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.339 and emotionally charged. Notice how often the 00:20:35.339 --> 00:20:38.099 words unsubstantiated, questionable reliability, 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.079 and rumor pop up in docu - But also notice that 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.200 the documents existed at all. The FBI didn't 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.480 toss every Hitler and Argentina letter in the 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:47.920 trash. They logged and evaluated them. The CIA 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.079 didn't just laugh at C. Melody and his SS friend, 00:20:51.299 --> 00:20:53.299 Citrone. They wrote up the report, attached the 00:20:53.299 --> 00:20:55.460 photo, and circulated it. Argentina governments 00:20:55.460 --> 00:20:57.359 didn't eagerly open their archives. They held 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.940 onto thousands of pages of Nazi -related files 00:20:59.940 --> 00:21:02.400 for decades. And now we're only starting to release 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:04.640 them. None of that proves Hitler escaped. But 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.799 if your baseline assumption is that powerful 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.980 institutions hide things, it kind of feels like 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:10.720 smoke and where people see smoke you're gonna 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.569 be looking for that fire as well. At the same 00:21:12.569 --> 00:21:14.990 time, there are hard practical questions that 00:21:14.990 --> 00:21:17.470 any he escapes scenario has to answer. How do 00:21:17.470 --> 00:21:19.529 you move from one of the most recognizable faces 00:21:19.529 --> 00:21:21.809 on earth through a collapsing capital, cross 00:21:21.809 --> 00:21:24.509 front lines into an aircraft or out of a city 00:21:24.509 --> 00:21:26.650 totally surrounded by enemy troops? How do you 00:21:26.650 --> 00:21:28.750 get him into a submarine without someone talking? 00:21:28.849 --> 00:21:31.009 How do you hide him for years among people who 00:21:31.009 --> 00:21:33.130 know exactly who he is, in towns where everyone 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:35.309 gossips? In a world where allied intelligence 00:21:35.309 --> 00:21:37.490 is explicitly hunting for Nazi fugitives, what 00:21:37.490 --> 00:21:39.950 kind of plastic surgery, disguise or controlled 00:21:39.950 --> 00:21:42.029 environment would it take? Some escape narratives 00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:44.369 try to solve this by shrinking the circle. Only 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:46.829 a tiny core of ultra loyalists know the truth. 00:21:46.950 --> 00:21:48.769 Everyone else thinks he died in Berlin. That's 00:21:48.769 --> 00:21:50.609 possible in theory, but every new eyewitness 00:21:50.609 --> 00:21:53.430 story, you add every barber, every doctor, every 00:21:53.430 --> 00:21:55.690 driver, increase the number of people would have 00:21:55.690 --> 00:21:58.430 to keep it a secret perfectly for many decades. 00:21:58.549 --> 00:22:00.930 And yet if history has taught us anything, it's 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:03.230 that impossible sounding things do sometimes 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.589 happen. Eekman really did vanish into a normal 00:22:05.589 --> 00:22:07.869 looking light in Buenos Aires until the massage 00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:10.250 team grabbed him off the streets. And jelly really 00:22:10.250 --> 00:22:12.299 did. They moved between countries, farming and 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:14.640 practicing medicine under false papers, and died 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.839 on a Brazilian beach, never having stood trial. 00:22:17.019 --> 00:22:19.539 There is documented Nazi presence in Barra Luce 00:22:19.539 --> 00:22:22.160 and other parts of Argentina. that went deep 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.660 into local politics and business. There are genuine 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.200 mysteries about certain German U -boats and their 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.220 cargo, their intelligence files that hint at 00:22:29.220 --> 00:22:31.079 things we still don't fully understand. So when 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.619 someone says maybe the biggest Nazi of all slipped 00:22:33.619 --> 00:22:35.619 through our fingers, they're plugging that ideal 00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:38.279 into a landscape that already has real stories 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:40.740 of escape. Tonight we've walked through the landscape 00:22:40.740 --> 00:22:43.019 piece by piece. The burned bodies in a bunker 00:22:43.019 --> 00:22:45.480 under Soviet control. The misidentified skull 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.259 fragment. The jawbone in Moscow that some scientists 00:22:48.259 --> 00:22:50.579 say matches Hitler's teeth. The German summer 00:22:50.539 --> 00:22:52.799 marines surfacing in Argentina months after the 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.660 war. Eyewitnesses claim of nighttime landings 00:22:55.660 --> 00:22:58.359 and secret bus convoys, the Nazi enclaves of 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:00.900 Patagonia. The FBI memo is taking Hitler and 00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:03.160 Argentina tips seriously enough to file them. 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:05.920 This CIA's Hitler hideout memo. the photograph 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.599 from Columbia labeled Adolf Schottemeyer, the 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.259 informer who swore he talked to Hitler monthly 00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:13.900 in a South American town, the Argentine archive 00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:16.259 full of rat line documents only now coming into 00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:18.480 light. We put as much as possible on the table 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.700 as we could in one setting, not to close the 00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:23.200 case, but to show you why the case never really 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.339 closes for a lot of people. So where does this 00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:27.500 leave us tonight? With two overlapping stories 00:23:27.500 --> 00:23:29.640 running at the same time, and one Hitler dies 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.519 in Berlin in April of 1945, a dictator choosing 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.019 suicide and fire over surrender. remains half 00:23:35.019 --> 00:23:37.039 destroyed, his fate confirmed mostly through 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.519 the testimony of those around him, the Tief left 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.400 and Moscow vault and other, he gets out. by plane, 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:44.720 by U -boat, by rat light, threaded through sympathetic 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.460 priests and friendly ports, and ends up on a 00:23:47.460 --> 00:23:49.819 ranch in Argentina or a beach in Columbia, living 00:23:49.819 --> 00:23:52.480 in the shadows among the very networks that he 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.180 created. The first story is the one in the textbooks. 00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:58.079 The second one is in the classified files, late 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.579 night conversations, and grainy, declassified 00:24:00.579 --> 00:24:02.900 photographs, which story you lean towards says 00:24:02.900 --> 00:24:06.259 as much about you and how you see power, secrecy, 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:09.640 and institution as it does about 1945. Maybe 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.420 it doesn't really matter in the end. whether 00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:13.579 he died in that bunker or slipped away in the 00:24:13.579 --> 00:24:15.740 dark. The man himself has gone either way, but 00:24:15.740 --> 00:24:17.859 lingers is the way the question clings to us. 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:19.980 We keep circling the story, not because we secretly 00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:22.420 want Hitler to have lived, but because we've 00:24:22.420 --> 00:24:25.200 unsettled by the ideal that something so huge, 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.900 so monstrous, can vanish into a badly written 00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:30.180 report in a locked drawer in somebody else's 00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:32.059 archive. We want evil to end in a courtroom, 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:34.619 under bright lights, with a verdict and a final 00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:36.759 image we can all agree on. Instead, we get a 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.160 fire, rubble, contradictions, missing bones, 00:24:39.339 --> 00:24:42.410 and decades of classic And in that space, our 00:24:42.410 --> 00:24:44.730 imaginations do exactly what they're wired to 00:24:44.730 --> 00:24:46.769 do. They start looking for doors where there 00:24:46.769 --> 00:24:49.329 might only be cracks. Maybe that's the real conspiracy 00:24:49.329 --> 00:24:51.829 here. Not a single secret submarine run. Not 00:24:51.829 --> 00:24:54.430 a hidden ranch in the Andes. The simple fact 00:24:54.430 --> 00:24:56.710 that power almost never gives us clean stories. 00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:59.269 It leaves us with redactions and partial answers 00:24:59.269 --> 00:25:01.569 and demands that we trust what we can't see. 00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:03.529 Some people can live with that. Others fill the 00:25:03.529 --> 00:25:05.509 silence with theories. Whether Hitler escaped 00:25:05.509 --> 00:25:07.730 or not, the system that allowed his officers 00:25:07.730 --> 00:25:10.170 and architects to build quiet lives on the far 00:25:10.170 --> 00:25:12.609 side of the world is very real. The paper trails 00:25:12.609 --> 00:25:15.069 are real. The governments that buried those trails 00:25:15.069 --> 00:25:18.250 for half a century are real. of the story we 00:25:18.250 --> 00:25:20.609 know and it's ugly enough on his home. So maybe 00:25:20.609 --> 00:25:23.029 the question isn't did he get away so much as 00:25:23.029 --> 00:25:25.269 why are we still chasing him? Maybe we keep following 00:25:25.269 --> 00:25:27.390 his shadow into the mountains and across the 00:25:27.390 --> 00:25:29.849 ocean because it's easier to hunt one ghost than 00:25:29.849 --> 00:25:33.309 to face the boring grinding truth that evil rarely 00:25:33.309 --> 00:25:36.230 ties itself off neatly. It bleeds into new passports, 00:25:36.390 --> 00:25:38.890 new uniforms, new institutions. It survives in 00:25:38.890 --> 00:25:40.529 the people who weren't in the bunker at all. 00:25:40.549 --> 00:25:42.410 You can walk away tonight convinced he died in 00:25:42.410 --> 00:25:44.890 Berlin or half convinced he didn't or suspended 00:25:44.890 --> 00:25:47.309 somewhere between the middle. doesn't care. The 00:25:47.309 --> 00:25:49.309 archives don't care. What matters is what those 00:25:49.309 --> 00:25:51.430 loose ends do to your senses of how the world 00:25:51.430 --> 00:25:53.589 works. They make you certain that everything 00:25:53.589 --> 00:25:56.609 is a lie, or do they remind you to move through 00:25:56.609 --> 00:25:58.549 the world with a little bit more doubt, a little 00:25:58.549 --> 00:26:00.890 bit more patience, a little bit more insistence 00:26:00.890 --> 00:26:02.730 on seeing the evidence for yourself. That's where 00:26:02.730 --> 00:26:04.230 I'm going to leave you tonight, in that narrow 00:26:04.230 --> 00:26:07.160 space between certainty and paranoia. where the 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.700 real work of thinking lives. Not every gap in 00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.160 the record is a coverup. Not every official story 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.759 is the truth. Most of the time, history is just 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.200 a bad signal picked up on a damaged receiver. 00:26:17.420 --> 00:26:19.160 We're all trying to decide what is noise and 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:21.160 what is real. I'm David. This is Zero Signal. 00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:24.299 Please stay curious, stay skeptical, and keep 00:26:24.299 --> 00:26:26.400 listening to the quiet parts where the story 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.200 doesn't quite line up. That's where the important 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.559 questions usually are. Until next time, we are 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:31.920 Zero Signal, and we're out.