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you're probably already thinking. No fluff, no
filters, no bullshit. Let's crack it open. Alan,
Paul Roberts, thank you so much for coming on
Zero Signal. I am stoked. that you are on our
show. Big fan of your work. I've listened to
countless hours of many podcasts you've been
on. So how about before we get too far into our
conversation, you tell the audience where they
can find you, purchase your book, and maybe some
other stuff you got going on. Sure. Thank you.
Yeah. So the easiest way to find me and what
I'm up to is just to go to globalcollapsedbook
.com. Once you're there, you have some links
you can use to check out the book. If you like,
you can get a signed copy for just about the
same price as an unsigned Amazon copy. It's available
anywhere online. Books are sold, Amazon, Barnes
& Noble, just about anywhere. There's also, if
you like e -books, it comes in e -book. There's
also a narrated audio book, which I narrated
myself. So lots of ways to listen to it. Yeah,
the other thing is you can find me on X. Again,
if you go to GlobalCollapseBook .com, scroll
to the bottom, you'll get the social media links.
And later this month, December 2025, I'm going
to be launching my own podcast called The Globalist's
Plan to Collapse Everything Podcast coming out.
That's a joint venture with iHeartRadio. So if
you go to GlobalCollapseBook .com, I'll be putting
the word out there when I'm close and we're real
close. That's awesome, Alan. I will definitely
be a fan of Subscriber for sure. I love listening
to you talk and present your material. So one
thing I did notice about your book, and I'll
let you explain to the audience, is that your
book is littered with QR codes. So tell the audience
what those are, what they do, and what kind of
inspired you to throw those in there. Yeah, so
this thing of using QR codes was kind of like
an accidental thing. I didn't go into the book
thinking I was going to do that, but One day
as I was heading out of the house to go to Barnes
and Noble to just hang out there and write, which
I did a lot during this process to break it up.
And anyway, I distinctly remember walking down
the sidewalk with my backpack and just this thing
in my head, like, how am I going to get across
all these videos? Then it's the best stuff. It's
the most persuasive information. And I thought,
well, why not just use? QR codes. And so I just
went on a rant. I have like 175 QR codes in the
book. A hundred of them are videos. Most of them
are short videos. But as far as persuasion goes,
you know, the old way was, you know, you have
all these footnotes, which nobody's going to
check. I mean, I don't think I've checked three
footnotes in my entire life out of the dozens
and dozens of books I've read. And with a QR
code, you got your phone on, you just hover it
over, bang, right to a video. There's the proof.
or, or to a document, uh, you know, so you can,
there's some where you can do a deep dive, mostly
they're short videos. And I'll tell you, as far
as convincing people, it is so much more convincing
to hear some globalists say something in their
own words than me just telling you that they
said it. So that's what I did. And people love
it. I mean, I, the reaction's been like, how
did you ever think of that? I'm like, I don't
know. It just came to me. Yeah, man. That's awesome.
I, you know, I think the biggest problem and
not that this field not. that what we're talking
about is conspiracy. I just think it's, I think
it's out there, you know, everyone, you know,
it's out there in the media, the government's
tell you, these WEF tells you. So this is outside
of the realm of conspiracy in my opinion. But
a lot of these, a lot of these people that come
on podcasts don't bring the receipts. And I love
the fact that you bring the receipts and they're
in your book and you can see these things that
are said. through their own words. So it's not
hearsay, it's not reading between the lines,
it's presented right in front of you and I think
that's awesome and I think that's important.
So, and you know, the other, the other cool thing
is, is that, uh, makes it easy to share. So you
got your phone, you got the link, you can text
it to somebody, you know what I mean? It's, it's
almost, somebody told me it's almost like a handbook.
You know what I mean? It's easy to read, but
it's also like something you can go back to and
send to other people. You know, you got all these
links. It's a really rich that way. Yeah. It's
almost like an adult pop -up book. You remember
when you were kids, you know, it pops up on your
phone and you can, you can see it. I think it's,
it's really innovative. and I appreciated that.
So I know your story because I've listened to
you talk so much, but I want you to explain it.
You're probably sick of telling it, but what
was your inspiration? What triggered you to want
to write a book? I know you had a pretty significant
professional career before your authorship. What
was the motivation? Yeah, so, you know, like
you said, I had a career in the corporate world,
which I left in 2011 to start my own marketing
firm. And I've never worked as hard in my life
as when I worked for myself. I mean, you know,
you're wearing a bunch of hats, you're doing
everything. And even after, you know, it's been
since 2011, after all those years, I still feel
like I can't get it all done. So in no world
imaginable was I planning to write a book. That's
my point. But late in April 2024, one Saturday
morning around 4 a .m., I woke up, as I said
before, no nightmare, no dreams, nothing that
I could remember. Just you're waking up like
you do every night, right? And laying there for
like a half a minute or so in bed. And it was
just this experience. The only way I can explain
it is just like, wham. It was this, some people
call it a download. I just call it an instant
knowing. And the reason I call it that is it
was completely instant. I mean, there was no
time between, there was no time from here to
there. It was just like, bang. I was suddenly
aware of six pillars of American society that
were under the threat of coming down. I just,
I knew the six. I knew what they were. They were
all there simultaneously. And I just had this
knowledge that they're coming down if we don't
do something about it. They're being worked on.
to bring them down and they're in different phases.
This was a kind of bizarre startling experience.
It wasn't scary. It was just extremely matter
of fact, but the knowledge was just instantly
there and I was like, whoa. So I got up out of
bed. I keep paper and pen in the bathroom. I
wrote those six down and like kind of scratching
my head. What is going on? What's happening to
me? I tried to go back to sleep, lay there for
two, three minutes and then three more, three
different pillars the same way, just like bang,
three of them. And this experience, each time
it lasted for maybe half a minute, maybe to a
minute and a half. It's really hard to judge
that time when you're in that mode. But it wasn't
just like, here it is. It was like the light
was turned on and it just stayed there. And I
wasn't visually seeing it, but I was mentally
seeing it, mentally understanding it. And as
soon as it like turned off, I got up and I wrote
it down again. So there's three more try to get
back to bed one more time. And then the same
thing, two more. And at this point, I practically
leap out of bed because, you know, three times
is a charm. I'm like, what in the heck? So I
go write them down. So now I've got 11 and that's
what the books about these 11 pillars that are
under attack. I call them collapse points. But,
you know, I always like to explain like, how
do you make sense of that? And I felt like it
had to be a God thing because number one, the
information felt like it was coming from outside
of me. There were even some of them where I'm
almost like, wow, I never thought of that way.
I remember thinking that like, wow, I never saw
it that way before. And so that was one reason.
But then the other reason is, you know, as I've
explained to other people, I have this daily
prayer routine. every day for at least 20 years,
and I mean almost every single day. There might
be five days a year where I don't hit this because
I'm too busy to do it, but I make a point of
starting every day with like a half hour to an
hour and a half of prayer. I don't time it. I
don't plan it. I have a daily devotional. I read
it. I think about it, and then I just start praying,
kind of like meditating and talking to God, whatever,
and just trying to cooperate with him is the
best I can explain it. And so when this happened,
it felt familiar. It felt familiar in the sense
of like, it felt like it was God, but I've never
had anything that dramatic, not even close, nothing,
anything like that. But you know, so that's why
I'm like, you know, God, what's going on here?
And I'm like, why are you showing me this? Because
with the exception of one pillar, none of it's
religious in the least bit. You know, it's just,
just like you're watching a newsreel almost.
And so I'm like puzzled by why would you be showing
this to me? I'm not a news person, I'm not the
kind of person who would do anything with this.
And I'm thinking, thinking, and then finally
I'm like, do you want me to write a book? And
if you want me to write a book, what's the title?
It was the same thing, wham, the whole title's
there like. In the tiniest fraction of a second,
you can imagine, I know it from front to back,
the globalist plan to collapse everything to
usher in a new world order. That whole title
was just instantly there. And so because it was
so fast and so clear, I felt like, I know I don't
have a choice. You showed me this. I'm not going
to ask you for some other proof. You know, I'm
not going to, I'm not going to like, you know,
be a jerk and like, okay, now show me one more.
And it's like, no, you know, this was so clear.
It's like, I got to do it. And so I'm like, okay,
I'll do it. And then a few minutes later, I'm
like, oh my God, what did I just sign up for?
How am I gonna do this? I've had butterflies,
it's not a panic attack, but it's like, oh my
gosh, how am I gonna do this? And I sensed an
answer. It was like it was waiting for the question.
It was like, write it from the heart and it'll
flow. I completely relaxed at that point. It's
like a weight was lifted off me and it's like,
All right, I'm just going to let it flow. I'm
not going to analyze it to death. I'm not going
to plan it for a year and write every bullet
and sub bullet and all that. I'm going to let
it kind of flow. And it did. I wrote the whole
thing in three and a half months, 300 pages,
175 QR codes and illustrations. I used every
spare minute I could to get it all done, but
I was on fire. I wanted to do it. It didn't feel
like a burden. Felt a little tedious at times,
you know, um, but, but I just wanted to do it.
It's all I wanted to do. And when it was over,
it's almost like a disappointment. Like, what
do I do now? And it's like, oh yeah, you got
to market it. You got to get the word out. So
that's what I've been doing ever since. So before
you had this download, did you, were you interested
in this subject? Were you aware of it? Or was
this like a new thing that was brought to your
conscience? Yeah. I mean, I was aware of some
of the things. I mean, you know, I would, um,
I would listen to podcasts that talk about some
of these things, kind of like as, I would call
it almost like a hobby. It's just something I,
it was more interesting than the nightly news.
I'm also a nightly news junkie. I've always been
a news junkie as long as I can remember. I just
want to understand things and how the world works
and all that. But, but you know, writing the
book took me further down the rabbit hole than
I've ever been and into more detail than I ever
knew. So like I said, some of these pillars,
probably three or. three maybe, maybe four, if
you would have asked me and given me a couple
hours to think about what are the main things
that are the weakest points of society that could
collapse society if they failed. Definitely the
borders because I was freaked out about the borders
and what was going on under Biden with the wide
open borders and all these military -age people.
That for sure. And I was very concerned about
the banking system. So those two I would have
thought about. But, you know, like I said, there's
11. So out of the 11, which one was the most
surprising and eye -opening for you? I mean,
you can go ahead and list the 11 before you answer
that question. But which one was that when you
looked at it, you were like, wow, I never, never
put that together. Yeah. Well, okay. So here's
the 11. National borders, security and police
protection, privacy. banking and finance, education,
energy, environment, medical system, food supply,
self -identity, and faith. So some of these feel
like they're really in danger, and so there's
two things, like which one feels like it's coming
down first, that'd be one question, but which
one surprised you the most? I would say faith
surprised me the most, because it doesn't seem
like it's in Self -identity and faith, the last
two are unlike the other nine, which are very
news -oriented. Self -identity and faith, I wouldn't
have thought of them as pillars of society. But
the more I thought about it, especially afterward,
it makes total sense because with self -identity,
they're really messing with these kids and what
am I? Am I a boy or a girl? I mean, come on.
When you went to school and I went to school,
nobody asked that question. That wasn't a thing.
But now they're getting them to ask this question
about themselves, just shaking them up in terms
of not knowing who they are. So that's one, but
then faith itself was the biggest surprise, but
it makes total sense because the tyrants always
go after the people of strong faith first, because
they're the backbone of society. They're the
people who are willing to die for what they believe,
and they will provide the most resistance to
tyranny as a person of genuine faith. who not
only wants to do the right thing, but will do
it out of love for others, for family, for community,
for country. It's the person of an undying faith,
a really rock -solid faith that is the biggest
threat to tyranny. But I never had thought about
it that way until I researched it and wrote about
it. Yeah, you know, the whole faith thing because,
you know, you read the book of Revelation and
they, you know, essentially God's telling us
that there's gonna be a one world religion. And
the faith one kind of surprised me too when you
brought it up. But, you know, it's funny, like
the deeper you get into these conspiracy holes,
the more it kind of points back to like spiritual
forces on the back end. And, you know, just through
a lot of the podcasts we've done and a lot of
the research, it seems like this whole age theosophic
religion movement is becoming pretty popular.
And I mean, I want your opinion, but I look at
it and it seems like a way for them to take all
major religions and kind of fold them into one.
But in what way do you think, particularly the
Christian faith, how do you think they're attacking
and leveraging that? Well, I mean, it's been
going on for decades. You know, it's very subtle.
But the main thing is to discredit it and make
it seem unimportant. If you think about, I go
back longer than you do, but if I go back to
TV shows in the 70s and 80s, there was this gradual
move away from traditional moral principles.
And it basically was tearing down the authority
within the family. the authority of the father
figure, you know, the authority of God in the
sense of following, let's say, the Ten Commandments,
the teachings of the New Testament. It's like
they're made to feel optional, you know, between
the TV shows, the sitcoms, the music, the movies.
I mean, just pop culture in general moves us
further and further away from that to where it's
weak. There's very few people that have a really
strong conviction unless they really kind of
separate. They're aware of it, they're aware
of it, and they're making sure their kids are
being raised away from too much TV, too much
pop culture. But I think it's really the pop
culture itself that's been used. And I don't
think it's an accident. I mean, I'm sure in some
cases it is, but I think overall, I do think
it has been a push. to basically break people
from their faith and to weaken it with a foreknowledge
knowing. Again, tyrants have been doing this
all through history, it's not a new thing. Soviet
Union was awful when it came to that, what they
did to people of faith. Same thing in China today,
North Korea. Pick your communist country and
also all through some parts of Africa. the Christians
are under terrible persecution. But yeah, I think
it's a plan. Yeah, no, and it's interesting because
it seems like a lot of this, and I think you
make this point as well, it seems like a lot
of it is geared toward Western culture. All these
pillars, it seems like it's hitting the Western
world a hundred times worse than it's hitting
any other part of the world. And on top of that,
it seems like... Christianity, they always try
to marginalize them. They try to make you seem
like you're kooky or crazy if you believe in
Christ or want to talk about Christ, but all
the other religions, it's fine. They kind of
touch, use kid gloves when they address it. So,
you know, I think that's interesting. I mean,
honestly, I think Christianity instills those
moral values and I think it instills... uh, independence
from the system. And I think that's a problem
for the globalist and the elitist. Uh, and you
know, going back to your, your, uh, self identity,
that seems like it's been a, it seems like it
kind of popped up out of nowhere in the past,
let's call it less than a decade. Well, it came
in under Obama really heavy that this is where
it really, really took root because he, he went
after the, uh, the states saying if you don't
open up all the bathrooms to whatever sex somebody
thinks they are, you're gonna lose federal funding.
That came down like a hammer. And I remember,
because nobody really was talking about where'd
this come from, but I do remember Donald Trump
early on saying this was never a thing. Where's
this coming from? He asked the question. I remember
it, but I haven't heard anyone else ask the question,
but until you did, it's like, yeah, where did
this come from? Like from out of nowhere, you
know, which proves it's a top -down thing, not
a grassroots thing. I didn't hear any people
clamoring for this, you know, to this day. Who's
clamoring for it? It's always the government
coming down like a hammer trying to force it.
Right. You know, and I think this kind of points
back, I mean, I guess it's the same two buckets,
faith and self -identity. And I've heard you
tell stories, especially out in the UK, you can't
pray around abortion clinics. Not only do you
not have freedom of speech, now you don't even
have freedom of self -thought or self -prayer.
Yeah, thought police. It's bizarre. And, you
know, even with this, listen, I judge no one.
If you live the life you want to live, as long
as you I don't think it should be promoted, but
I'm not here to judge you. But this whole self
identity thing, when you listen to the arguments,
they're so illogical that you can't even, I don't
even know how to make sense of them. Again, I
don't know where it came from and it doesn't
even pass the logic test in 100 % of the cases.
Yeah, and the self -identity, even though in
the book, I guess in the book I get into a couple
things. I get into am I a boy or a girl, that
part of self -identity, the sexual identity,
but I also do get into the attack on just manhood,
fatherhood, and motherhood. So it's not only
what am I, but what does it even mean? When a
Supreme Court nominee can't answer the question,
what is a woman, without sounding like, you know,
she's trying to dodge the question. You know,
well, I'm not what does she say? I'm not a biologist.
Yeah. And I heard I heard someone else say, you
know, I'm not a veterinarian, but I sure as hell
know what a dog is. You know what I mean? And
you know what I mean? It's obvious. You don't
have to you don't have to be a biologist to know
what a woman is. You don't have to be a veterinarian
to know what a dog or a cat is. It's just it's
just so outrageous. But it just shows how. on
the same page some of these people are. I mean,
she should be ashamed of herself for dodging
a question like that. Oh, absolutely. So out
of your 11 pillars, which one do you think is
the closest to collapse, complete and total collapse?
Yeah, well, if you'd asked me that question four
years ago, it would have been national borders.
But now that the southern border, at least of
the US, is sealed pretty much, without a doubt,
I would say banking and finance. And I watch
that one closely. And the more news I hear, the
worse it sounds, the more it concerns me. I mean,
if you look at just some of the fundamentals,
the US national debt has been off to the races
since the COVID crisis. Now, I could understand
back then, because there was a lockdown, they
had to do something in terms of loans and everything
to keep businesses from going under, to keep
people from, you know, financial ruin, not able
to pay their mortgages. I hated that whole lockdown
scenario, but if someone truly believed, if the
government was tricked into believing it or whatever,
but if they believe that a lockdown country is
gonna lead to financial collapse, then you gotta
put out some money to stop that from happening.
The problem is they kept at that pace. through
the whole Biden administration. And the Trump
administration isn't doing any better, as far
as I can see. The big, beautiful bill is spending
a ton of money. Nobody seems really concerned
with getting the national debt under control.
And so that is one huge alarm. But beyond that,
the banking system itself, to me, looks like
they are intentionally... playing with the interest
rates, the Fed is in a way that is intentionally
making the system unstable. And the reason I
say that is if anyone was really paying attention
to, you know, we had at least a decade, maybe
longer of near zero interest rates. And then
all of a sudden, a little over a year ago, the
Fed starts cranking those rates up to like 5%,
like really rapidly. And then in the meantime,
all these banks all over the country that had
bought all these treasury bills and treasury
notes with their, they parked their money in
treasury bills and treasury notes. It's supposed
to be the safest investment you can make, but
they were only paying 1%, maybe 3 % if they were
really old. And then the Fed cranks the rate
up to 5%, so the new treasury bills and notes
are worth double, triple, five times what the
old ones were. So when people start pulling money
out of the banks and the bank has to cash in
their treasury bills and treasury notes, they're
worth a fraction of what they were. They're selling
them for less than what they paid for them to
get the cash to pay depositors who are pulling
money. So if there's even the slightest run on
the banks, even a small one, we saw Silicon Valley
Bank go under a little over a year ago, and there
were two more that went. which were as big as
the whole 2008 banking crisis, just these three
banks alone. And that's basically what happened.
They were underwater. People started pulling
their money and it started coming down like a
house of cards. Now the FDIC stepped in, but
they say that that nearly wiped out the FDIC.
I mean, if that were to happen again or to happen
on a double or three times the scale, there would
be no money. It doesn't matter that you, they
say you're covered up to 250. You're covered
up to 250 if you're one of the ones who gets
the money before the music stops. So yeah, that
one really concerns me a lot. I think it's very
shaky, much more dangerous than people realize.
So in your opinion, do you think this is being
done intentionally to usher in a new currency?
I do. I think it's being done. I think it's being
done to weaken the system, which will result.
the way I see it unfolding, if the banks start
going, they're going to go like a house of cards
and only the two big fails will be saved. And
so you've got thousands of banks, regional banks
all over the country that are the main lenders
to this medium sized businesses. You know, the
guy that starts a factory, a person that starts
a franchise or whatever. These are your regional
banks for the most part. And so, you know, they've
got all these They've got all these mortgages,
commercial real estate, where nobody's in these
offices anymore. They're not getting the mortgage
money back. The banks aren't getting back the
full value of these mortgages. They're underwater
on most of these, and these are the banks that
are in danger of coming down. But if it comes
down, you're going to have about five or six
too big to fails that will scoop up all the banks.
And then once you have five or six banks controlling
the whole American U .S. economy, then that'll
be the perfect time to introduce a central bank
digital currency or a digital currency that is
run by these handful of banks. But that's an
easy precursor to then a central bank, a Federal
Reserve digital currency. And then... those central
banks having their digital currencies would then
be the precursor to the one world digital currency.
So I think that's the long -term plan is to get
to a one world digital currency tied to an ID
so that they can basically do what they're already
doing in China. You got your digital ID, you
got your currency, and you've got your social
credit score, that triad together. controls your
rights, what you can do, where you can travel,
what kind of job you can get, what kind of job
your kids can get. And I think that that's what
the globalists are hoping for. Hopefully, we
can get enough awareness and pushback going in
the US that we can stop that. And if the US is
a successful model, that makes it easier to have
successful pushback in other countries. Just
like when DeSantis put the lie to the to the
whole thing that you had to wear masks, you had
the lockdown, and you said, the hell with that,
everybody's out in the sun, and even though you
have an aging population, they're faring no worse
than the average state that's locked down. He
put the lie to it, and as soon as people realized
that, then there was pressure on other states
to do the same. I think that same principle can
happen if the US can be successful in not going
along with this whole thing, if we can hold it
off other nations. who are on that path, like
Canada and in the UK, maybe they can, you know,
come back from it too. Yeah. So there's been
a lot of talk over the past decade or so about
cryptocurrency. How do you, what role do you
think cryptocurrency plays in this new one world
currency or, or the aftermath of a possible banking
collapse? I think, I think crypto just like gold
and silver, precious metals is, is an alternative
potentially. And I think any alternative is a
good thing. Any system that's outside of the
central bank control to me is a good thing. So
I like crypto. I personally don't own it. But
if I did, I would probably get a privacy crypto
like Monero that is totally anonymous because
I think being anonymous is really important in
a way that it didn't used to be. So, you know,
cash is somewhat anonymous. pretty much anonymous
except for, I heard recently that someone paid
for something at Walmart with cash, did no internet
searches before they bought the thing at Walmart,
just knew what they wanted, went in, bought it,
all of a sudden started getting ads for that
thing. And they said, oh my gosh, it's facial
recognition. There's facial recognition in Walmart
that's linking to you even though you paid cash.
That was their conclusion. And I think that's
probably true. It wouldn't surprise me. A big
chain like Walmart, I think they would be up
for that kind of tech. Absolutely. And at the
self -checkouts, they have the cameras there.
They can see you. I'm sure they have access to
everything that's in your pocket. I often wonder
about cryptocurrency. I've been reading some
articles about assets being tokenized on the
blockchain and even talks about identity, a way
to protect your identity being tokenized on the
blockchain. And, you know, in my mind, and I'd
like, I'd love to have your opinion, it almost
seems like they're trying to digitize everything
on the chain as a way, maybe as a precursor to
make it, to make you unable to buy, sell or trade
in the future. It's just, you know, they, in
my opinion, they sell it like it's private and
I'm sure, you know, some blockchains are more
secure than others, but I ultimately think whoever's
at the top can look through the transactions.
They know you're buying crypto on Coinbase and,
you know, they can see your wallet ID, they can
see who it's tied to and see who you're transferring
it to. I ultimately just think it's the almost
the final step in control of the currency in
the long run. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I, um, I don't
buy the, you know, we want to make things secure
for you argument. I think the real, the real
goal is we want to know everything you're doing
so we can control you and keep tabs on you, which
is consistent with everything we're seeing. I
mean, you know, it's, uh, you know, we came out
of COVID and all of a sudden there were cameras
on every corner. And, you know, there was 5G
towers everywhere too. I mean, we went into the
lockdown, they, they pretty much weren't there.
We came out of the lockdown, they're everywhere.
And I think that's just kind of like a symbolic,
if you want to call it an indicator of their
desire to track and trace and to get that system
in place. But that is what concerns me. And,
you know, in the book, we talk about the next
step after the central bank digital currency
is that system that you're talking about, the
unified ledger. So the unified ledger, yeah,
is this desire to put, to digitize absolutely
every asset in the world, right down to the chickens
you have in your backyard, for gosh sakes. But
they really don't want to put an ID on everything
and a value. And the idea would be that because
it's all digital, there's no paper anymore that's
used to verify anything. So if you have the copy
of the paper deed to your house, That doesn't
mean anything because the real proof is the digital
version. But the problem is anything digital
can be stolen, can be turned off, can be manipulated.
And to me, that's the really concerning thing
about it. I don't want my local government relying
on the digital version of the deed to my house.
I want the paper deed to be the proof, you know?
So, yeah, that's really concerning. Yeah, and
I think we saw some of that during COVID, where
people were debanked or demonetized, especially
people on social media, just because the government
didn't like the narrative. And once everything's
digitized, they lock you out. I mean, how are
you going to eat? And I think that's terrifying.
What do you make of BRICS? I know BRICS is forming
their own, I guess, international type. Goldback
currency and in my opinion all wars or bankers
wars currency wars or resource wars. I think
Terrorism and anything else that you hear about
is it's just a way to sell it Do you see a potential
for that that bricks block in? The United States
and other Western countries possibly getting
into a war just to prevent another alternative
currency So the American dollar doesn't lose
its position as the global marker Yeah, I mean,
I think the potential is there for war. I don't
think it's going to come to that. What I see
is more a move to what they call a multi -polar
world. At least if the Trump admin with the things
they've been signaling, including Marco Rubio,
talked about now we're in a multi -polar world
instead of a unipolar world where the U .S. manage
everything. And just recently, the Trump administration
came out with a new document kind of explaining
those principles that we're gonna focus on our
hemisphere. We're not gonna be the policemen
of the world anymore. So to me, that makes it
seem as if we're less threatened by war than
we would have been otherwise up until this point.
But I do think the US losing its reserve currency
status because BRICS is coming on board and because
Saudi Arabia no longer uniquely sells oil in
dollars. So we don't have that petrodollar advantage
that we had up until a year or two ago. We no
longer have that. They're selling it in every
currency now. And because BRICS is coming on
board, it was coming on board even before Biden
pulled the rug out from under Russia. and said
your $300 billion of money in the bank is now
frozen. The US, NATO, basically the West locked
Russia's money out once they invaded Ukraine.
That certainly accelerated the motivation to
get BRICS online. We've done this to ourselves.
The United States sent a signal to the entire
world that if we don't like what you're doing,
we will freeze your assets and therefore we're
no longer a trusted reserve currency. We will
come down and use our leverage to harm you if
we want to. And so I think that that just threw
the gasoline on the fire for the effort to develop
an alternative system to the banking system that
we have that's been in place for so many years
that basically the Western world has relied on.
Well, Russia, China, India, you know, Brazil,
and they say 50, 60, 70 nations or more are signing
up for BRICS. They want to be on that system
because they feel like it's safer than being
on the dollar, being, you know, dollar denominated.
I can't blame them, but, you know, I don't know
why we had to do that. You know, I think what
Biden did in that move was really short -sighted.
Yeah, I totally agree. So what other pillar?
You mentioned, obviously, we just spent some
time talking about the banking system. So you
want to move on to the borders? Sure. Sure. Yeah.
The borders are the one that, you know, we are
paying the price for that. Now, if you think
about how many people are in this country that
shouldn't have been let in without being vetted,
I mean, they came in unvetted. Nobody can deny
this. And, you know, they say, oh, we've heard
people say, yeah, they were vetted. They weren't
vetted. You know, their name was taken maybe.
and they were given a ticket to go fly somewhere.
They might've got their fingerprints, but they
didn't vet them in the sense of, should you be
here or shouldn't you be here? To me, vetting
includes, do you have a job? Are you just gonna
be a burden on society? Do you have someone who's
supporting you? Or are you just coming in and
we're paying for everything? Which that was the
Biden administration. Come on in, free hotel,
free food. We'll put you up in a five -star hotel
in New York. We'll give you a cell phone. And
I'll give you everything. And they're doing the
same thing in UK. They're doing the same exact
thing in Australia. They're doing the same thing
in many Western European countries. Ireland,
I mean, everybody's complaining about this. But
of course, the heads of the governments, they
don't care. They want it this way because it's
a plan. But yeah, I mean, they say now the real
threat in the US is the Northern border, the
Canadian border. that that's where people are
coming through. But I think the thing is, yeah,
they're starting with trying to get out the worst
of the worst, which obviously they have to do.
But let's face it, I mean, we got millions and
millions of people on welfare who shouldn't be
draining the system, shouldn't be clogging up
the hospital system, shouldn't be messing up
the school system. And that's what's going on.
Thank God we shut off the flow, at least on the
Southern border, but, um, we, we still have a
heck of a problem that we're dealing with, but
you know, in, in Western Europe, they're dealing
with a lot more same again in Australia. So what
are you hearing about the Northern border? Like
what, what group is coming over? Is it, I mean,
I doubt it's Hispanics unless somehow they fly
to Canada and they enter from the North or what
do you? Yeah, it's, it's nothing like the flow
we had coming in from the Southern border, but,
but I've heard several. Several people say, uh,
that, that it is coming down from the Northern
border. I heard, and this, I want to verify this.
I haven't verified it yet, but I have heard it
more than one time, but I hadn't heard the number.
I've heard that there's as many as 500 ,000 Chinese
troops in Canada. Yeah, that is, that is crazy.
I mean, that's, I don't know how big the whole
U S army is, but it can't be much bigger than
500 ,000. I wouldn't think. So they got 500 ,000.
potentially. But I think, yeah, I think people
from China are probably coming down through there,
possibly other, you know, other countries as
well. I got to get the details on that, but I've
heard it several times, including from people
in Canada, so. Yeah, I heard some story maybe
a year ago, it was back when Trudeau was in office,
that they were allowing Chinese military bases
to set up and operate there. And I don't know
if this is in America or Canada, but they were
allowing Chinese police stations, not necessarily
to police Canadians or Americans, but to police
the local Chinese, which is just mind blowing
to me. It's almost, you think of Rome and them
setting up their, their conclaves in certain
Germanic areas. It almost kind of harkens back
to that a bit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So in your
opinion, why, I mean, just mass immigration doesn't
make any sort of economic or social sense to
me. And I think anyone who can be honest about
it would come to the same conclusion. I mean,
it leads to inflation, it leads to housing and
rental shortages. I mean, it just leads to so
many problems that you mentioned the medical
system. Why do you think that they're allowing
it and wanting it to happen? Well, I think it's
part of the planned take down of the country
and of the Western world. I mean, if you can
basically make your borders meaningless and have
people from every country and nationality just
streaming across it unchecked, then pretty soon
you start to lose your national identity. You
lose your sense of security, the sense of identity
of who you are. Like what does it mean to be
an American? I mean, it used to mean we kind
of share a set of core values. Yeah, we're from
all these different countries. But in the past,
we had assimilated. You came through Ellis Island,
you went through the process, you learned what
America's about, for example. And so there was
a common set of beliefs, a pretty standard set
of beliefs. Yeah, there are always the outliers,
always the people who don't care about the country.
There's always some who are trying to cause trouble.
But the ratio of it is unlike anything we've
seen in the past. And, you know, so if you can
erase the sense of a border, if in reality you
really don't have a border because anybody can
come over that, that's a, that's a line on the
map. That's not a border, right? So, but if you,
to the extent you can have that, then you lose
your national identity. That, that takes you
one big step closer to accepting a world identity.
I'm a citizen of the world. I'm no longer a citizen
of the country. And so you can get closer to
that one world. order that one world government,
that one world control that you don't have when
you have truly independent nations. No, I agree.
It's really scary when the majority of the people
coming here are military aged men. That's the
scary part. It's not women, it's not children,
it's not families. I mean, I'm all for immigration,
legal immigration, like you said, that are vetted,
that have some sort of job or sponsorship lined
up. You know, I'm sure we've all heard the arguments
about importing a voting block. I'm not even
sure if you boil it all down to its base. And
I agree with you. I don't think that, I mean,
I think it helps. I think it's point of leverage,
but I don't think it's ultimately the reason
they do it. And I agree with you that it's to
just homogenize culture into something that's
indescribable to anyone who lives in America.
But, you know, the other system, you know, I'm
sitting here looking at your 11 points and I,
the one I think that's completely destroyed and
I think it's already fallen is education. What
are your opinions on that? Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't,
I couldn't agree more. I mean, my gosh, when
you, I think we all nearly had a heart attack
when we saw what our kids were learning, you
know, during COVID when we, when they were having
to go to school remotely. And seeing the, there
were two things, like they weren't learning,
reading, writing, math and science, but what
they were getting is a bunch of brainwashing
and like squishy stuff like that are about feelings
and about, you know, injustices and all this,
you know, it's, that was an eye -opener. And
I think, you know, I've read that. There was
such a dramatic spike in homeschooling after
that. I mean, a lot of parents got motivation
they never had before once they saw what was
going on. But I mean, it's been going on for
decades. In the book, there's a QR code that
takes you to an interview with Diane Reams where
she interviews Thomas Sowell, a really highly
educated black man who grew up in Harlem. I talked
about this on other podcasts, but yeah, in his
day in Harlem, he claims that he got a better
education than his daughter who's going to a
private school, an expensive private school was
getting. And he meant far better too. And, you
know, so this interview was in the 80s. He, you
know, he was probably at this point in his 50s.
So I guess we could calculate his age, but there
was a time when inner city Harlem had quality
education. And it's just kind of mind blowing
when you think about that. And I know my experience,
I went to a Catholic school, right? And my parents
spent a lot of money for that. And that honestly,
when I look back at it, that education really
wasn't very good. I was not working hard. I was
coasting, my friends were coasting. I was getting
A's and B's and occasional C's. I wasn't pushing
myself at all. And that's even in that kind of
school, let alone. the typical public school
system. Yeah, no. My kids were in middle school
when the whole COVID thing went down. Even something
like math, the way they teach basic math is a
lot different than I remember. I don't know if
you have kids or how it is irrelevant, but the
way that they did simple math was mind blowing
to me. This is the easy way to do it. Why are
we... doing some sort of weird algebraic equation.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to wonder. And I've
heard that, um, you know, that's really had an
impact on society. Somebody was, was talking
about a news reporter who was throwing out numbers
and, and the numbers were off by like orders
of magnitude. Like it'd be like millions versus
billions. You know, when, when you, when, when
you say billions, but you mean millions, I mean,
that's a thousand times, right? The difference.
But people don't know math, so they can't recognize
when something doesn't make sense mathematically.
I mean, what did Joe Biden say we had? He quoted
the U .S. population and the billions. But I
think by that point, nobody expected him to know
what was going on anyway, though. But, you know,
it's just, yeah, I mean, we don't have the math
sense that we used to. They're not teaching it
like they used to at all. Yeah, I mean, speaking
of Joe Biden, you know, I'm a believer in, you
can agree or disagree, but I'm a believer that,
you know, I hate the fact that we're given a
binary choice every four years. I almost think
both parties ultimately serve the same master.
I mean, I think Trump might be an exception to
the role. I think that's probably one reason
he's so hated. I mean, I could argue the other
side of that too. You know, when I see these
troops being deployed and the National Guard
being deployed in certain cities to round up
immigrants, I'm for that. But the thing that
really scares me is inevitably we're going to
have another leftist administration, maybe in
the next four years, maybe in the next eight,
but ultimately it's going to come back around.
It scares me because I think one party sets the
precedence and then in turn, When the other party
gets into office, they keep that presence, but
they flip it to the other side. And that's the
part that really scares me. When do you see,
in your opinion, that all these pillars eventually
collapse? I've heard you mentioned 2030. Is that
still kind of what you're thinking? You think
this agenda is going to be complete by 2030?
I know a lot of things can happen in four years,
but what does your research tell you? I mean,
I think they're going for 2030. I don't know
that they're going to achieve it. I mean, believe
it or not, I'll call it semi -optimistic that
we can actually stop this. I mean, just the fact
of how this instant knowledge came to me gives
me some hope that there's a reason for it. You
know what I mean? And I know that's like, okay,
you could say that's a religious belief, but
to me, it's also a common sense thing because
my My sense is that you're not given something
just to, just so that you know how bad it's going
to turn out. I think you're given knowledge to
do something with it. And, and I believe we're
meant to push back. I mean, my goal, my hope
is that whether it's through book sales or podcasts
or just however the word gets out there, the
people's eyes start to get opened. on these 11
pillars, these 11 things that are being really
focused on to bring this country down and other
Western countries, that that knowledge alone
will help push it back and stop it from happening.
My hope is that it doesn't happen. I'm not like,
okay, it's going to happen by a certain date,
but I'm recognizing that the globalists have
given dates and they're serious about those dates.
I actually think that We've tripped them up in
this country in the United States I think the
first Trump administration put the brakes on
I think this one's putting the brakes on even
harder And that's why he's so hated. I mean,
that's why it's it's not his style and people
need to get beyond that I mean, I don't like
his style. It's irritating, right? But I'd like
a lot of the policies it comes down to policy,
right? So Yeah, you can say some policies sound
horrible. The things on AI scare the crap out
of me. You know, like this AI race, I would be
okay with it if we could just withdraw all the
surveillance stuff. Like somebody go in there
and make laws that you can't use it to surveil.
And I would probably be okay with it. You know,
I know that they've come out with some things
will never have a central bank digital currency,
but then they've got other things that sound
like they're pretty similar to it. So I have
no comfort level with anything related to AI.
it's tied to surveillance right so i don't like
that so it's not every policy but a lot of the
policies like the immigration policy is huge
closing that border is enormous that's a kick
in the teeth to the new world order i mean the
stuff they were doing with them. all these PCR
tests on the chickens and the chapter in the
book on millions and millions of chickens that
were basically taken offline, if I could use
a technical term, they're slaughtering all these
chickens, the egg production's way down, the
price of eggs is up to eight or nine dollars
a dozen in some cases. The Trump admin came in
and said, no, it's over, no more of that. And
the supply comes back, the prices go down. So
that's an anti... new world order thing you know
they want to crush the food supply they want
to make everybody desperate so they can manipulate
them i mean they're taking farms offline in europe
like crazy and they've taken a lot a lot of them
offline here too with uh bill gates and his 70
million acres of farmland that he's bought up
so yeah i mean there's stuff happening but but
what i see is is policies that are designed to
push back against a lot of this stuff i mean
you look at the fentanyl overdoses that we've
had and the effort. I mean, it's been more than
a Vietnam war every single year. I mean, Vietnam
was 50 to 60 ,000. We lose over that every single
year in this country to fentanyl. And finally,
somebody's doing a war on drugs. I mean, a real
war on drugs. So that's good. So I'm like, you
know, I know a lot of people are blackpilled
on everything. They think there's no hope for
anything and they have suspicions about every
single thing. It's like, you know what, I can't
get in somebody's head, but I will celebrate
every positive mood because we need to celebrate
every positive move because we need to celebrate
it. We need to celebrate the victories. We need
to acknowledge them. We need to, you know, speak
up about them to encourage more and so that we
don't lose heart. and think that there's no way
to stop this train. We got to stop this train.
But, you know, have courage, celebrate your victories.
Be vocal about when things are going the wrong
way. What can we do to stop it? Not just bitch
and moan about it, but what can we do to stop
it, right? So I have hope. I don't I don't think
there's a date certain. I do think I do think
the New World Order folks are pushing for 2030.
We'll see, we'll see how far they get, but we
got to push back and wake people up. Yeah. You
know, I'm hopeful. I mean, I, inevitably the
book of revelation is going to happen. I think
God is very kind and very forgiving. And I often
think of the book of Jonah, right? Jonah goes
on Nevaeh and preaches repentance. He gets ticked
off because they repent and destruction is delayed.
I do agree with you. I think if we repent, do
the right things that God will delay the inevitable,
but. It concerns me because there are so many
people blackpilled and this country is so divided.
I mean, I grew up in the nineties and I don't
remember politics even being 10 % as bad. No,
no, no. And you know why? It's because I believe
that Trump's policies are diametrically opposed,
many of them to the new world order goals. That
is why you've never seen anything like this,
because they have had every almost everybody
in their pocket until now. You had George Bush,
supposedly a Republican, supposedly a conservative,
and then we have all the stuff around 9 -11 and
the surveillance state that got introduced, and
everybody fell for it because it was tied to
9 -11, and yeah, we gotta do something about
these terrorists. We have to... scoop up the
phone calls that are coming in from out of the
country. And it was really just a big setup to
scoop up everything on everybody, you know, it
was a step toward that. So they've had people
in their pocket the whole time. I mean, I think
if people will step back from the black pill
thing and take an honest look and say who in
the history of your lifetime has ever had the
kind of incoming that Trump has taken. all the
court cases, 81 felonies supposedly, or 91, I
don't remember anymore. Coming in from Georgia,
coming in from all over the country, people trying
to get him in one way or another, trying to take
him off the ballot, going after his family, trying
to imprison him, shooting at him twice. Some
people just think, oh, that's all fake. No. Because
they don't do that to their own. There is not
one other person. There is not one person on
the left side. That comes one -tenth of the way.
And it's not Hillary Clinton just because Comey
did one thing that she's complaining costs her
the election. That is nothing compared to what
the fire that Trump's been under. And look at
the people and Trump admit who have gone to jail
for him. Steve Bannon, Navarro. And, and, and
other people in his orbit that have gone to jail,
uh, because they wouldn't, they wouldn't cave
and frame Trump, which is what they were after.
I mean, look at the, look at the, um, all the
court stuff, the, uh, the fake, um, impeachments,
two of them. And, and, and the way that they,
uh, the way that they surveilled his team, um,
you know, for years, surveilled his team. They
haven't done that to anyone on the left. So.
I look at the amount of fire, the amount of heat,
the amount of pain he's gone under and I say
it's because he is against many of their policies.
Now he's got people on their team, he's got people
on his team that I think are working against
him and trying to get some of these leftist policies
in. So it's not like it's perfect, but it's infinitely
better than if we would have had Kamala Harris
in there extending you know, Joe Biden's four
years, which are an extension of Obama's eight,
in my opinion. I mean, we'd have been heading
for the cliff and over it. We'd be on our way
down right now, I think. Yeah. And I think this
is a good transition into the medical system.
You know, I think the one silver lining of the
COVID pandemic was the fact that I think it woke
a lot of people up. They saw a lot of inconsistencies
and, you know, I have dual opinions on the Internet.
I try not to be black -pilled. But I think the
Internet is a great way. I mean, you've seen
podcasts blow up. I don't really listen to the...
I don't watch the mainstream news anymore because
I feel like it's just state -run. I get all my
news from guys like you and other podcasts. And
I think that's the beautiful thing about having
the Internet. I think it's a matter of time until
they lock it down. But I still think we're probably
a decade or hopefully two away from that. But...
Let's talk about the medical establishment and
how that's degraded over the, I mean, again,
I think most of this has happened over the past
decade and it's happened fairly quickly. Yeah,
it really, obviously it really ramped up with
the whole COVID thing that opened everybody's
eyes to basically the lie of Western medicine.
And can we rely on these people who are, you
know, who we held in such high esteem to be watching
out for us and doing things in our best interest.
I mean, I was horrified when I learned that the
degree to which these hospitals were incentivized
to classify the flu and anything like it as COVID,
and the money they were getting to classify things
as COVID, and the additional backing they got
when they put people on ventilators and things
like this, and how consistent that was all across
the Western world. I read an article that converted
it into local currencies like in Australia, Canada,
Western Europe, and the incentives were very
uniform across the Western world to classify
things as COVID. I mean, magically the flu went
away that year and COVID came in and it was almost
the same numbers initially until the shots got
ramped up. And then when the shots ramped up,
There's an article, a big, huge study that was
done for Australia in the Southern Hemisphere
that shows a direct correlation, I mean, like
running in parallel the booster shots and the
change in all -cause mortality. I mean, they
just track very closely, very tightly, and that
was a very thorough thing. So I think our faith,
in the medical system since then has been just
like totally shaken. But I think it really goes
back to John D. Rockefeller and what I call in
the book, The Birth of the Western Medical Industry,
which is all pharma based. Because at that point,
the other forms of medicine, were basically halted
when he successfully brought in the pharma system,
which conveniently was tied to his oil industry.
He was the biggest oil tycoon in history. Almost
every pharma product is petroleum -based. I didn't
know that until I did the research. It's like,
are you kidding me? Yeah, it's all petroleum
-based. It goes back to that. Basically, the
system they implemented was a pill for an ill.
So instead of like, you know, alternative medicine,
which is like, let's understand what's going
on in the body and let's strengthen the body
so it can use its natural defenses to bring it
into the sickness. Instead of that, you know,
we put a Band -Aid on the symptom with a pill
and we're not really making the body healthy.
So yeah, it goes way back to the early 1900s.
And correct me if I'm wrong. He had a heavy hand
in the educational system in the United States
as well, didn't he? He did, yeah, so it's the
medical schools. He had an impact on the medical
schools in a huge way. Basically, he worked with
somebody who was able to introduce a bill in
Congress that went through that pretty much,
in effect, really outlawed the other forms of
medicine in a practical sense. I mean, not 100%,
but it was so thorough that there were virtually
no medical schools anymore that were the old
type medicine, the traditional medicine up to
that point. It all became the new method. The
only way to get certified was through the American
Medical Association instead of the other half
dozen that existed separately from that prior.
I can't remember ever going to the doctor and
the doctor saying, you know what? You ought to
take this or that vitamin. You ought to take
this or that mineral. No, it's like, you know,
here's the pharma thing. And by the way, you
can buy it on the way out the door. Don't forget
to stop by the front desk and get your prescription
filled. I mean, it's just, it's this prescription
pharma industry based medicine. So clear. Right.
And they rarely talk about your diet. I mean,
I think a lot of the food, I mean, the food quality,
again, I keep tossing out this term the past
decade, but the food quality seems to have plummeted.
It's, you know, everything is. It's got so many
chemicals you can't produce or you can't pronounce.
Uh, it's, it's just, uh, you know, you can go
to Europe and there's stuff that we have in our
food system that they don't have there. I've
heard so many, I mean, they're anecdotal, but
people say they go to Europe, they eat food,
they're not bloated. They feel better. They come
back to America. Next thing you know, like they're
feeling bloated, ill and gross. And I just think
junk. Yeah, it's all junk. And not only that
it's expensive. I don't. know about you and ever
since COVID, it seems like the price of food
to, I mean, you can't go out and eat a meal for
you and your wife and God forbid you take your
kids for under a hundred bucks in some cases.
Oh, I know. I know. I work, you know, it didn't
used to be that you really thought about, should
I just get water to drink, you know, because
I'll save three or four bucks on a, on a soda,
let alone, you know, a beer is like, I mean,
when did beer all of a sudden become $8 a glass?
I mean, it's like nuts. It is nuts. Man, I got
one more question for you. How are you doing
on time? You good? I'm okay. Sure. Okay. I'll
ask you one more question and then we'll wrap
it up. So in your opinion, who do you think's
at the top of this pyramid? Do you think it's
a spiritual thing? Do you think it's just a series
of coincidences? Do you think it's one man up
top spreading this down? I know you can watch
news broadcasts and it doesn't matter the story.
It's almost, and I'm sure you've seen them, where
each news broadcast from each state is reading
the same exact script. So it's coming from somewhere.
Where do you think it's coming from? Or what
do you think the source is? Yeah, well, there's
a chapter in the book about that. It's called
Who Owns the World? And it's... I say in the
book, if you're only gonna read one video or
watch one video, watch this one. I think it's
almost an hour long, but it goes through a series
of YouTube searches and they keep rolling up
to who owns this company, who owns that company.
By the time you're done, you realize there's
a handful of companies that have controlling
interest in just about every country. At the
end, it comes down to Vanguard, BlackRock, State
Street. And in the end, you see that Vanguard
actually has controlling interest over everything.
I mean, it really all rolls up to Vanguard. And
then Vanguard's organized in such a way that
you're not allowed to know who owns Vanguard.
It's the way their policies are written, we won't
divulge. So the question is who owns Vanguard?
Because whoever owns Vanguard owns the world.
And I know Vanguard has individual stockholders,
but who has the controlling interest over Vanguard?
These are probably trillionaire families, the
banking families, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers.
The names we've all heard, I suspect, are the
ones that really have the control. Elon Musk
isn't the richest man in the world. There's people
way richer than him, in my opinion, and these
are the ones that really control it. So I don't
pretend to know exactly who these people are,
but their control is vast. And to me, it comes
down to the highest level systems. These are
number one, the banking system, the people and
the banking families. Money is power. Money is
the power to manipulate, to reward, to crush
competition, to do all kinds of things, good
or evil, right? But it's money is control. Beyond
that, it's the large corporations. Those are
aligned with the World Economic Forum. That's
a major power in the world. The World Economic
Forum influences the United Nations. That's another
major building block. And then you add to that
the governments and who's in power in the governments.
We see how unified... these governments are and
doing the same thing and being a part of the
world economic forum, being a part of the UN,
they're all building blocks within the same network.
And they're unified, they're influenced, you
know, like Klaus Schwab claiming they had...
penetrated the cabinets of, I think, over 50
% of the countries in the world. As he said,
penetrated the cabinets. So he's bragging about
the amount of control they have just through
the World Economic Forum. And then you get the
spy agencies, the CIA, MI6, the different Israel
spy agency. These are the centers of control.
But I believe they're, for the most part, historically,
they've worked in tandem. And, you know, ultimately,
if we want to get to a spiritual sense, I do
believe in that there is the power of evil and
that evil is manipulative and evil is deceptive.
And these people themselves are deceived, even
though they don't realize that they think they've,
you know, got, let's say, a deal with the devil.
Some of them maybe think that they are directly
cooperating with who they think. is their god,
their Satan is some of them. But I think ultimately
in the end, they're going to realize one day
that they've been deceived by the greatest deceiver
that there is in this universe, and that's Satan
himself. So they're deceived. And the problem
is they have a lot of money, a lot of power,
a lot of control to execute their plan. But in
the end, good wins. We know that from the Bible,
from the book of Revelation. But I think we also
know it in our hearts. And we're all called upon,
I believe, to be people of courage, to not lose
heart. And I'll say it again, we're not allowed
to be black -pilled. So if anybody's feeling
black -pilled, I don't know if you ever saw the
movie Moonstruck, where Cher slaps this guy and
says, snap out of it. So if you're black -pilled,
snap out of it. get behind people who are trying
to move the ball forward to do some good, try
to do some good yourself and focus on that rather
than, um, uh, you know, getting all tied up and,
uh, this sense that it's all coming down. Cause,
uh, I think we can push back. That's my hope.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, man, brother. Thank
you so much for coming on. I love talking to
you. I can't wait to listen to your podcast.
Uh, one more time, just tell the audience where
they can find you, find your book and you know,
if, if, if they're inclined get in contact with
you. Sure. Yeah, I go to globalcollapsedbook
.com. Again, you can order a signed copy there
if you're in the U .S. You can also get links
to Amazon and everywhere. There's a contact us
page. I read everything that comes through there.
I promise you want to get in touch with me. Just
fill out that contact form. I'll get back to
you. You know, speaking of that, I just talked,
I've been going back and forth with a guy in
Norway who heard me on a podcast and Wanted to
get a signed copy and you know, I said I don't
ship out of the country and I I really don't
unless somebody wants it really bad because the
price is so high but he said, you know, I told
him the cost the shipping costs, you know is
like Thirty -six dollars to ship it to Norway
and on top of the cost of the book is that I
don't care I want one so I've you know, I shipped
it to him But yeah, I mean, you know, we're just
trying to get this word out. So whatever it takes
that's what I'm about. So I would encourage people
Go to the website globalcollapsedbook .com. You
can read a chapter for free. Click the read link.
You can read a chapter for free. You can also
click on another link there on the read link.
It'll take you to a button where you can hear
the intro. I've narrated that. You can get the
whole book as an audio book too if you want.
So one way or another, get the word out, get
the book if you can. Help me spread the word.
That's what it's all about. Well, I will definitely
be getting an autographed copy from you, so expect
to see my name pop across. But again, thank you
so much. One more thing, when's your podcast,
when's it debut? Yeah, it's going to be later
in December 2025. I think we're... We can't be
more than two weeks away from it. I haven't put
the date out because I'm working with iHeartRadio,
and we're putting together the final version
of the initial two podcasts, and then I'm going
to have guests on each of the 11 chapters, 11
pillars, I should say. They're going to be individual
podcasts. We're lining up guests, but just keep
going to the globalcollapsedbook .com. I'll have
an announcement once I finally have a date, but
it'll be coming out soon, so I hope people check
it out. Now, the name is the same as your book
or is it a different name? Yeah, it's going to
be the globalist plan to collapse everything
podcast. Perfect. Well, thank you again so much,
brother. I wish you the best of luck and God
bless. All right. Thanks so much. Great being
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