WEBVTT 00:00:00.140 --> 00:00:02.879 Alright, so check it out. You know how we talk 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.139 about all the weird stuff they sneak into our 00:00:05.139 --> 00:00:07.990 food, our air, or even our clothes? Yeah. It 00:00:07.990 --> 00:00:10.349 turns out most shirts are basically made of plastic. 00:00:10.710 --> 00:00:12.769 You're sweating in chemicals, man. That's why 00:00:12.769 --> 00:00:15.230 I switched to Hypronatural. It's wild. They make 00:00:15.230 --> 00:00:17.570 their fabric from jade stone and crab shells. 00:00:18.030 --> 00:00:20.410 Yeah, you heard me right. Jade and crab shells. 00:00:20.769 --> 00:00:23.089 The jade keeps you naturally cool, like literally 00:00:23.089 --> 00:00:25.489 drops your skin temp down a few degrees. And 00:00:25.489 --> 00:00:27.850 the crab shell fibers? They fight odor and help 00:00:27.850 --> 00:00:30.510 your skin stay fresh all day long. 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There's a moment 00:01:05.569 --> 00:01:07.650 in every story where the official narrative stops 00:01:07.650 --> 00:01:09.849 making sense. And in the Jeffrey Epstein case, 00:01:10.049 --> 00:01:12.069 that moment came the second to most connected 00:01:12.069 --> 00:01:15.129 inmate in America somehow died in one place designed 00:01:15.129 --> 00:01:17.269 to keep him alive. I'm your host, David Green, 00:01:17.329 --> 00:01:19.609 and this is Zero Signal Shorts, where we pull 00:01:19.609 --> 00:01:21.650 on the threads you're not supposed to tug. Today 00:01:21.650 --> 00:01:23.810 we're going inside Epstein's world, how a college 00:01:23.810 --> 00:01:26.189 dropout from Brooklyn ended up managing billionaires' 00:01:26.390 --> 00:01:28.810 money, flying presidents and princes on his jet, 00:01:28.930 --> 00:01:31.290 and dying in a federal cell surrounded by failed 00:01:31.290 --> 00:01:33.909 cameras and forged logs. Was it suicide or quiet 00:01:33.909 --> 00:01:36.250 green light? for a desperate man or something 00:01:36.250 --> 00:01:38.769 much darker designed to protect the names or 00:01:38.769 --> 00:01:40.329 be dating his? That's the question we're gonna 00:01:40.329 --> 00:01:42.170 walk straight into today. If you're new here, 00:01:42.269 --> 00:01:44.250 tune in every Tuesday at 6 a .m. for our deep 00:01:44.250 --> 00:01:46.670 dive episodes, long form breakdowns of crimes, 00:01:46.870 --> 00:01:48.650 cover -ups, and conspiracies. The mainstream 00:01:48.650 --> 00:01:50.730 would rather write off as nothing to see. For 00:01:50.730 --> 00:01:52.769 now, settle in, turn up the volume, and let's 00:01:52.769 --> 00:01:55.370 step into the file the feds never wanted us to 00:01:55.370 --> 00:01:57.930 open. The rise of the wealth and the death of 00:01:57.930 --> 00:02:15.360 Jeffrey Epstein. Edward Epstein and my residence 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.300 address is 6100 Red Hook Boulevard in Virgin 00:02:18.300 --> 00:02:21.280 Islands. Do you maintain any other residences 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.039 presently? I have vacation homes in New Mexico, 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:26.639 Palm Beach, New York and Paris. Have you ever 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:29.159 been convicted of a crime? Yes. What was the 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.240 crime of which you were convicted? Two counts, 00:02:32.580 --> 00:02:35.039 one soliciting prostitution and procuring a minor 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.060 for prostitution. Do you in fact commit those 00:02:37.060 --> 00:02:38.699 acts? I'm going to invoke my Fifth Amendment 00:02:38.699 --> 00:02:41.060 right. How many times have you solicited a minor 00:02:41.060 --> 00:02:43.580 for prostitution? Same answer. How many times 00:02:43.580 --> 00:02:46.060 have you solicited a minor for prostitution in 00:02:46.060 --> 00:02:48.259 the state of Florida? Same answer. Have you ever 00:02:48.259 --> 00:02:50.680 solicited a minor for prostitution in the Virgin 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.919 Islands? Same answer. That is, you are invoking 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.479 your Fifth Amendment? Yes, right. Yes, Mr. Scrooge. 00:02:56.659 --> 00:02:58.780 Have you ever solicited for prostitution in New 00:02:58.780 --> 00:03:02.000 York? Same answer. Have you ever solicited for 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.270 prostitution in New Mexico? Same answer. Have 00:03:05.270 --> 00:03:07.610 you ever solicited for prostitution in Paris? 00:03:07.849 --> 00:03:10.229 Same answer. Have you ever solicited a minor 00:03:10.229 --> 00:03:13.550 for prostitution anywhere at any time? Again, 00:03:13.669 --> 00:03:16.009 I'm gonna assert my right. We're gonna go through 00:03:16.009 --> 00:03:18.270 everything. So you are terminating the deposition 00:03:18.270 --> 00:03:20.629 at this time? Recessing the deposition. What 00:03:20.629 --> 00:03:23.150 college did you attend? Cooper Union. And did 00:03:23.150 --> 00:03:25.150 you get a degree from Cooper Union? No, sir. 00:03:25.150 --> 00:03:27.129 How many years were you in college? I believe 00:03:27.129 --> 00:03:29.889 two. Would you study? Physics. Isn't it true 00:03:29.889 --> 00:03:32.930 that you were a teacher at the Dalton School? 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.599 in New York after college? It's just unheard 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:37.580 of. It's just an unbelievable scheme to have 00:03:37.580 --> 00:03:40.099 kept going for that long of a period of time. 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.280 Do you consider yourself to be bisexual? No. 00:03:42.460 --> 00:03:45.919 In any event, you did develop a sexual relationship 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.099 with Leslie Wexner at some point in time. Is 00:03:48.099 --> 00:03:50.740 that true? No. Mr. Epstein, how long have you 00:03:50.740 --> 00:03:54.060 been sexually attracted to underage minor female? 00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:56.419 Objection, harassing, argumentative. Are you 00:03:56.419 --> 00:03:58.460 kidding? I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging 00:03:58.460 --> 00:04:00.719 any secrets here, right? Move to strike. Mr. 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.580 Epstein? Were you sexually abused as a minor? 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.120 Again? Were you sexually abused as a minor? You 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:07.740 know, I'd like to, again, I'd like to respond 00:04:07.740 --> 00:04:10.280 to all your, if any questions seem to be relevant, 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.879 but I would like to respond to any relevant question 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.460 at this time. However, my attorneys have counseled 00:04:15.460 --> 00:04:18.100 me that I cannot provide answers to the questions 00:04:18.100 --> 00:04:20.560 relevant to this lawsuit today. I must accept 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.480 their advice of risk losing my Sixth Amendment 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.819 right to effective representation. Accordingly, 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:26.899 then, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth 00:04:26.899 --> 00:04:28.800 Amendment right to the United States Constitution. 00:04:29.139 --> 00:04:30.399 Would you raise your right hand, please? Yes. 00:04:30.509 --> 00:04:32.230 Do you solemnly swear to testimony about to give 00:04:32.230 --> 00:04:33.529 away the truth, the whole truth, and nothing 00:04:33.529 --> 00:04:35.110 but the truth to help you get it? Yes, I do. 00:04:35.269 --> 00:04:38.209 Is it true, sir, that you have what's been described 00:04:38.209 --> 00:04:42.829 as an egg -shaped penis? I had hired a psychologist 00:04:42.829 --> 00:04:45.730 to do a psychological profile on Jeffrey Epstein. 00:04:45.870 --> 00:04:48.750 What type of person he was and what would actually 00:04:48.750 --> 00:04:52.810 get under his skin, what made him tick, was that... 00:04:52.620 --> 00:04:56.620 He was a narcissist. He had no ability to feel 00:04:56.620 --> 00:04:59.339 empathy and saw himself as the master of puppets, 00:04:59.379 --> 00:05:02.399 so to speak. Sir, one witness described your 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:04.920 penis as oval -shaped and claimed when erect 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.060 it was thick towards the bottom but was thin 00:05:07.060 --> 00:05:09.459 and small towards the head portion and called 00:05:09.459 --> 00:05:11.779 it egg -shaped. Those are not my words, I apologize. 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.740 But as Mr. Critton has stated that this is a... 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:17.300 I'm willing to continue. I hate to call him that. 00:05:18.329 --> 00:05:22.230 He tries at all times to be the master of his 00:05:22.230 --> 00:05:25.110 domain. and in control of his world. As soon 00:05:25.110 --> 00:05:27.870 as he feels he's out of control, it's unsettling 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:30.170 to him. Plaint filed by Virginia Roberts against 00:05:30.170 --> 00:05:33.329 you. Isn't it true, sir, that a friend of yours 00:05:33.329 --> 00:05:37.350 sent you three 12 -year -old females for you 00:05:37.350 --> 00:05:40.689 to sexually abuse on one of your birthdays? Form 00:05:40.689 --> 00:05:43.149 argumentative, harassing, and irrelevant in this 00:05:43.149 --> 00:05:45.250 lawsuit. But you're saying that's part of the 00:05:45.250 --> 00:05:48.230 lawsuit? On one of defendant Epstein's birthdays, 00:05:48.389 --> 00:05:51.930 a friend of defendant Epstein sent him three 00:05:51.930 --> 00:05:55.500 12... year old girls from France who spoke no 00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:59.000 English for defendant to sexually exploit and 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.920 abuse after doing so they were sent back to France 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.480 the next day isn't that true once again I'm gonna 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.319 move to strike irrelevant argumentative harassing 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:09.740 I would like to answer that question I really 00:06:09.740 --> 00:06:12.279 would However, today, my attorneys have told 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.980 me I have to assert my Fifth Amendment, Sixth 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:16.800 Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment rights under 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.600 the U .S. Constitution. You're invoking your 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.939 Fifth Amendment rights to each of these questions 00:06:21.939 --> 00:06:25.199 because you know that your answers will incriminate 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.759 you and you feel that it will result in you being 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:29.699 prosecuted for these crimes. Isn't that right? 00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:32.860 objection, argumentative, harassing, and calls 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:35.079 for a legal conclusion. No, in fact, the Supreme 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:37.220 Court recently said that the Fifth Amendment 00:06:37.220 --> 00:06:40.319 right is there to protect the innocent. So that's 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:42.060 what I'd like to answer. Are you released from 00:06:42.060 --> 00:06:43.879 jail at some time? Do you have to report back 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.459 to jail on a daily basis? Yes, I report back 00:06:46.459 --> 00:06:49.060 to jail at 8 p .m. Every single day? Yes, sir. 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:52.300 And is it seven days a week that you're out on 00:06:52.300 --> 00:06:54.139 work release? No, sir. How many days a week are 00:06:54.139 --> 00:06:56.500 you out on work release? Six. And of those six 00:06:56.500 --> 00:06:58.920 days, how many hours per day are you out on work 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.269 release? 12. We're back in the video record at 00:07:01.269 --> 00:07:05.589 12 .02 p .m. Let's talk about Jango 102, Virginia 00:07:05.589 --> 00:07:09.430 Roberts. Do you know Virginia Roberts? So she's 00:07:09.430 --> 00:07:11.970 again who? Virginia Roberts. Can you spell it? 00:07:12.110 --> 00:07:14.649 Common spelling, Virginia. Like states, can you 00:07:14.649 --> 00:07:44.149 spell it? If you look at Jeffrey Epstein, the 00:07:44.149 --> 00:07:46.149 way a detective would to build a case, the first 00:07:46.149 --> 00:07:48.389 thing that jumps out is that his life doesn't 00:07:48.389 --> 00:07:50.029 start like a billionaire's. It starts like a 00:07:50.029 --> 00:07:52.029 kid from Brooklyn who somehow gets escorted into 00:07:52.029 --> 00:07:54.310 rooms he has no business being in. Epstein was 00:07:54.310 --> 00:07:56.870 born in 1953 in Brooklyn to a working -class 00:07:56.870 --> 00:07:59.370 Jewish family. He was right, especially in math 00:07:59.370 --> 00:08:01.389 and science, but he never finished college. He 00:08:01.389 --> 00:08:04.029 attended classes at Cooper Union and NYU, but 00:08:04.029 --> 00:08:06.350 dropped out before ever obtaining a degree. A 00:08:06.350 --> 00:08:07.990 normal background check, that's the kind of detail 00:08:07.990 --> 00:08:10.329 that limits your options. You might end up teaching 00:08:10.329 --> 00:08:12.829 at a strongly public school or working an entry 00:08:12.829 --> 00:08:14.680 -level job. Instead, Epstein showed shows up 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:16.600 at the Dalton School, one of the most elite prep 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.660 schools in Manhattan. As a 20 -something math 00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:20.980 and physics teacher with no diploma, he gets 00:08:20.980 --> 00:08:23.660 the job under the headmaster Donald Barr, a former 00:08:23.660 --> 00:08:26.399 OSS intelligence officer and the father of future 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:28.379 Attorney General William Barr. For cops, that's 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:30.680 the first, huh, moment. An under -qualified, 00:08:30.899 --> 00:08:33.100 uncredentialed young man somehow getting hired 00:08:33.100 --> 00:08:35.460 into a highly selective institution by someone 00:08:35.460 --> 00:08:37.159 with an intelligence background. It doesn't prove 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.659 anything on its own, but it's not a normal trajectory. 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:42.340 He doesn't last long at Dalton. By the mid -1970s, 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:43.960 he's out, and this is where the The second jump 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.100 happens. A parent from Dalton helps him land 00:08:46.100 --> 00:08:48.320 an entry -level job at Bear Stearns, a major 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.700 Wall Street firm. Epstein starts as a low -level 00:08:50.700 --> 00:08:52.399 assistant in the trading department and then 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.700 moves into options training. Within a few years, 00:08:54.740 --> 00:08:56.759 he's a limited partner. For most people now, 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:58.779 this would be a career highlight. But for Epstein, 00:08:58.899 --> 00:09:01.539 it's just a launching pad. In 1981, he leaves 00:09:01.539 --> 00:09:03.860 Bear and Stearns under circumstances that have 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:06.000 never fully been expanded, officially to start 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.899 his own firm, though colleagues later describe 00:09:07.899 --> 00:09:10.019 rumors he was pushed out. Immediately afterward, 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:12.259 he's running a company called the Intercontinental 00:09:12.259 --> 00:09:14.820 Asset group, saying he helps with wealthy people 00:09:14.820 --> 00:09:16.940 recover lost or stolen money. That kind of business, 00:09:17.100 --> 00:09:18.919 moving money for rich clients in the shadows 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.419 of dispute, is exactly where you expect to find 00:09:21.419 --> 00:09:23.480 people who know how to operate off the books. 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.460 By 1988, Epstein incorporates J. Epstein & Company, 00:09:26.580 --> 00:09:28.320 his own money management firm. He tells Vanity 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:30.220 Fair and others that he will only take clients 00:09:30.220 --> 00:09:32.299 worth more than a billion dollars, a strangely 00:09:32.299 --> 00:09:34.860 restrictive role for a guy with no public track 00:09:34.860 --> 00:09:37.440 record, no SEC registered hedge fund, and no 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.700 visible marketing operations. The document reality 00:09:39.700 --> 00:09:41.940 uncovered by later investigations is that his 00:09:41.929 --> 00:09:44.669 Fortune seems to depend on a very small handful 00:09:44.669 --> 00:09:46.850 of ultra -rich clients rather than a broad base 00:09:46.850 --> 00:09:48.830 of investors. The most important of those is 00:09:48.830 --> 00:09:51.450 retail billionaire Leslie Wexner, founder of 00:09:51.450 --> 00:09:53.269 Limited and Victoria's Secret. Epstein meets 00:09:53.269 --> 00:09:55.850 Wexner in the mid -1980s, becomes his financial 00:09:55.850 --> 00:09:58.570 advisor, and very quickly is given sweeping power 00:09:58.570 --> 00:10:00.610 of attorney, legally allowed to sign checks, 00:10:00.850 --> 00:10:03.090 buy and sell property, hire on fire, borrow money, 00:10:03.210 --> 00:10:05.830 and act in Wexner's name. This is an extraordinary 00:10:05.830 --> 00:10:08.610 level of trust of a man with minimal formal credentials. 00:10:08.750 --> 00:10:10.590 During this period, Epstein's invisible wealth 00:10:10.590 --> 00:10:13.049 explodes. He acquires properties that once belonged 00:10:13.049 --> 00:10:15.350 to Wexner, including the now infamous townhouse 00:10:15.350 --> 00:10:18.190 at 9 East 71st Street in Manhattan, one of the 00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:20.169 largest private homes in the city. Wexner bought 00:10:20.169 --> 00:10:22.710 it in 1989. A few years later, Epstein is living 00:10:22.710 --> 00:10:25.590 there, and by the late 1990s, he takes full possession 00:10:25.590 --> 00:10:28.289 in a transaction that effectively transfers a 00:10:28.289 --> 00:10:30.309 mansion worth tens of millions of dollars into 00:10:30.309 --> 00:10:33.049 his control. He also relocates part of his operation 00:10:33.049 --> 00:10:35.370 to the U .S. Virgin Islands in St. Thomas, a 00:10:35.370 --> 00:10:37.090 tax haven, and buying his own private island, 00:10:37.210 --> 00:10:39.029 Little St. James. Later reporting shows that 00:10:39.029 --> 00:10:42.259 from 1999 to 2011, the bulk of Epstein's income 00:10:42.259 --> 00:10:45.240 came from just a few billionaire clients, especially 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.720 Wexner and later Apollo, co -founder of Leon 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:49.600 Black, who together paid him hundreds of millions 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.600 in fees. So when people ask, how did Jeffrey 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.759 make his money? The answer is pretty clear, by 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:55.840 embedding himself inside the financial lives 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:58.840 of a tiny number of extremely rich people, gaining 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.639 extraordinary control and charging outsized fees 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.580 for it. That's not illegal by itself, but it's 00:11:03.580 --> 00:11:06.139 opaque. And it leaves huge unanswered questions 00:11:06.139 --> 00:11:08.940 about what exactly he was doing for those clients 00:11:08.940 --> 00:11:11.519 that was that kind of money. Meanwhile, Epstein 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.879 is building something more valuable than cash, 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.100 a network. His social circle expands from presidents, 00:11:17.379 --> 00:11:19.840 princes, tech founders, hedge fund billionaires, 00:11:19.980 --> 00:11:22.259 top scientists, lawyers, and academics. Flight 00:11:22.259 --> 00:11:24.620 log show politicians, royals, and celebrities 00:11:24.620 --> 00:11:26.659 flying on his private jet. He donates to elite 00:11:26.659 --> 00:11:29.639 institutions like Harvard and MIT, funds obscure 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.360 research projects, and positions himself as a 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.419 kind of connector, someone who can introduce 00:11:34.419 --> 00:11:36.940 banks like JP Morgan to alter high net worth 00:11:36.940 --> 00:11:39.440 clients and even political leaders. In internal 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.120 emails that surfaced later, bank executives described 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.019 him as a brain maker who can bring in billionaires 00:11:45.019 --> 00:11:47.980 and banks process over a billion dollars in transactions 00:11:47.980 --> 00:11:51.039 for him even after he was flagged as a sex offender. 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:52.840 From a law enforcement viewpoint, this is where 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.360 the file stops looking like a routine rich guy 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.159 gone bad behavior and starts to resemble infrastructure. 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:00.600 Epstein isn't just wealthy, he is strategically 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.279 connected in a way that makes him useful to banks, 00:12:03.460 --> 00:12:05.360 to billionaires, and potentially anyone who wants 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.200 to have leverage over them. That's the factual 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.529 backbone. conspiracy grows on. The conspiracies 00:12:09.529 --> 00:12:11.509 don't start from nothing. They grow out of these 00:12:11.509 --> 00:12:13.889 unexplained jumps to privileged treatment and 00:12:13.889 --> 00:12:16.590 missing answers. The biggest one is the intelligence 00:12:16.590 --> 00:12:18.830 asset theory. In this version, Epstein isn't 00:12:18.830 --> 00:12:21.250 just a predator, he's a tool. People believe 00:12:21.250 --> 00:12:23.409 this theory points to his odd early placement 00:12:23.409 --> 00:12:26.509 at Dalton by Donald Barr, a man with OSS intel 00:12:26.509 --> 00:12:29.250 history, to his sudden rise in elite finance 00:12:29.250 --> 00:12:31.470 without credentials at all, and to the way he 00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:33.710 keeps getting protected when any normal offender 00:12:33.710 --> 00:12:35.769 would be crushed. They highlight reports that 00:12:35.769 --> 00:12:38.289 during the Trump transition, Former U .S. Attorney 00:12:38.289 --> 00:12:40.929 Alex Acosta allegedly told officials he's been 00:12:40.929 --> 00:12:43.730 told Epstein's belonged to intelligence and that 00:12:43.730 --> 00:12:46.389 he should leave it alone. When he cut the 2007 00:12:46.389 --> 00:12:49.169 -2008 non -prosecution deal, they noted that 00:12:49.169 --> 00:12:51.549 Epstein later provided information to the FBI 00:12:51.549 --> 00:12:53.710 as agreed upon, according to a recently surfaced 00:12:53.710 --> 00:12:56.570 2008 FBI memo closing out a sub file confirming 00:12:56.570 --> 00:12:58.750 he was at least some kind of source to them. 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:00.669 Add in the long -running rumors and reporting 00:13:00.669 --> 00:13:03.470 that tie him, V .I. Ms. Maxwell and her father 00:13:03.470 --> 00:13:06.549 Robert Maxwell to possible Mossad connection. 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.740 And you get the classic honeypot narrative. Epstein 00:13:08.740 --> 00:13:11.139 is allegedly running a blackmail operation for 00:13:11.139 --> 00:13:13.659 one or more intelligent services, collecting 00:13:13.659 --> 00:13:15.779 compromising material and powerful men to be 00:13:15.779 --> 00:13:18.179 used as leverage. The why here is simple. Blackmail 00:13:18.179 --> 00:13:20.259 is one of the oldest tools of the trade, and 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:22.360 Epstein's carefully constructed world, private 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.960 jets, remote islands, camera -filled mansions, 00:13:25.059 --> 00:13:27.159 looks like a made -to -order environment for 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.759 exactly that kind of work. The second major conspiracy 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.019 cluster revolves around the so -called client 00:13:32.019 --> 00:13:35.100 list and the ideal of global blackmail networks. 00:13:35.220 --> 00:13:37.460 In the public this usually gets reduced to memes. 00:13:37.700 --> 00:13:40.139 Release the list. But behind that is a serious 00:13:40.139 --> 00:13:42.460 intuition. If Epstein was trafficking minors 00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:44.879 for decades, somebody was buying those services. 00:13:45.220 --> 00:13:47.399 Flight logs, guest books, and victim testimonies 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.500 all point to a wide orbit of powerful people 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:52.019 around him. Officially, the DOJ now says there's 00:13:52.019 --> 00:13:54.899 no secret client list, and that C's tapes mostly 00:13:54.899 --> 00:13:57.299 show illegal child pornography rather than powerful 00:13:57.299 --> 00:13:59.659 mid and compromising situations. But conspiracy 00:13:59.659 --> 00:14:01.559 -minded observers look at the limited number 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:03.980 of prosecution, mainly Epstein himself and Miss 00:14:03.980 --> 00:14:05.820 Maxwell, and compare Compare that to the scale 00:14:05.820 --> 00:14:08.360 of his operations and the roster of names tied 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.220 to his social life. They see years of banking 00:14:10.220 --> 00:14:12.620 records, travel manifest, and digital evidence 00:14:12.620 --> 00:14:14.940 and ask this question, is it really plausible 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:17.980 that none of this implicates anyone else at any 00:14:17.980 --> 00:14:20.200 level and there's nobody worth charging? Now, 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:23.620 the theory says no, that there is or was a list, 00:14:23.860 --> 00:14:26.539 formal or informal, of compromised elites and 00:14:26.539 --> 00:14:29.240 that exposing it with destabilized institutions 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.799 in politics, finance, and the media. In that 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.710 framing, the why is about system survival. Protecting 00:14:34.710 --> 00:14:37.870 the network matters more than justice for individual 00:14:37.870 --> 00:14:40.509 crimes. Some breaking news right now. Disgraced 00:14:40.509 --> 00:14:43.450 financier Jeffrey Epstein has taken his own life 00:14:43.450 --> 00:14:46.350 while he was behind bars here in New York City. 00:14:46.490 --> 00:14:49.750 Epstein was facing sex trafficking charges. NBC 00:14:49.750 --> 00:14:52.289 News investigative correspondent Tom Winter now 00:14:52.289 --> 00:14:54.250 has the very latest time. What more do we know? 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:58.440 Peter, what we know now is that at 639 this morning, 00:14:58.700 --> 00:15:00.899 the fire department and EMS here in New York 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:04.600 City got a phone call from MCC, which is a federal 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.320 detention facility here in Manhattan in New York 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.840 City, where Jeffrey Epstein was being held awaiting 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:12.500 trial. They took him to New York's downtown hospital. 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:14.700 He was in cardiac arrest, and he was pronounced 00:15:14.700 --> 00:15:17.360 there. What we know from officials that have 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.460 been briefed on what happened, it appeared that 00:15:19.460 --> 00:15:22.600 he had hung himself in his cell or wherever he 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.620 was being held within MCC. and he was found by 00:15:25.620 --> 00:15:27.259 prison officials this morning and that's when 00:15:27.259 --> 00:15:30.080 they reached out and they called EMS in unsuccessful 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.500 attempts to revive him. So that happened early 00:15:32.500 --> 00:15:34.440 this morning and right now what we're trying 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.379 to do is figure out if he was still on suicide 00:15:37.379 --> 00:15:39.360 watch because there was an incident that occurred 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.799 several weeks ago where he injured himself. It 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:43.519 wasn't quite clear if that was an attempt on 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.460 his life. and attempt to perhaps stage an attack. 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.600 The third major conspiracy is the one everybody 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:50.799 has heard in the meme form. Epstein didn't kill 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:52.980 himself. Underneath the joke is a serious cluster 00:15:52.980 --> 00:15:56.000 of questions about his death in August of 2019, 00:15:56.179 --> 00:15:58.360 the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York. 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.299 Officially in New York City, medical examiner 00:16:00.299 --> 00:16:02.299 rolled into suicide by hanging, and subsequent 00:16:02.299 --> 00:16:05.360 DOJ and FBI reviews have reaffirmed that conclusion. 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.259 But the list of procedural failures that night 00:16:07.259 --> 00:16:09.360 is long. Epstein had been taken off suicide watch, 00:16:09.460 --> 00:16:11.539 was left without a cellmate. Guards misrequired 00:16:11.539 --> 00:16:13.789 checks and then falsified logs to suggest they 00:16:13.789 --> 00:16:15.610 had done them, and cameras near his cell had 00:16:15.610 --> 00:16:17.950 technical issues. The DOJ inspector general later 00:16:17.950 --> 00:16:21.049 documented numerous and serious failures in staffing, 00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:23.789 supervision, and equipment that created the opportunity 00:16:23.789 --> 00:16:26.309 for Epstein's death. On top of that, the autopsy 00:16:26.309 --> 00:16:28.409 found multiple neck fractures, including a broken 00:16:28.409 --> 00:16:30.509 bone in the neck. Injuries that one prominent 00:16:30.509 --> 00:16:32.769 forensics pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, said 00:16:32.769 --> 00:16:35.549 were extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and 00:16:35.549 --> 00:16:37.909 more consistent with homicidal strangulation. 00:16:38.029 --> 00:16:39.909 Other experts dispute the interpretation and 00:16:39.909 --> 00:16:42.389 say such fractures can occur in older individuals 00:16:42.389 --> 00:16:44.539 who hang themselves, but the disagreement itself 00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:46.700 feeds down. Then when the DOJ finally released 00:16:46.700 --> 00:16:49.100 the jail video years later, metadata analysis 00:16:49.100 --> 00:16:51.440 showed the raw footage had been processed and 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.279 stitched together with at least one minute gap. 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.700 Again, something official said was benign, but 00:16:55.700 --> 00:16:58.059 which only deepened suspicion. For people inclined 00:16:58.059 --> 00:17:00.179 towards conspiracy, the why here is straightforward. 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.740 If Epstein could name names, then leaving him 00:17:02.740 --> 00:17:04.819 alive was too dangerous for too many people. 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.579 A messy suicide in a broken jail is easier to 00:17:07.579 --> 00:17:09.740 manage than a live defendant in open court. A 00:17:09.740 --> 00:17:11.559 fourth, broader conspiracy treats Epstein as 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.180 just one node in a larger pattern of elite, criminal, 00:17:14.339 --> 00:17:16.359 and community. A fourth, broader conspiracy treats 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:19.000 Epstein as just one node in a larger pattern. 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.099 In this telling, he isn't a one -off monster. 00:17:21.299 --> 00:17:23.200 He's Exhibit A. Supporters of this view point 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.220 to the 2008 non -prosecution agreement, Acosta's 00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:28.339 office cut, which allowed Epstein to plead to 00:17:28.339 --> 00:17:30.400 minimal state charges, serve about 13 months 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.019 in a linear work release set up, and avoid federal 00:17:33.019 --> 00:17:35.119 indictment altogether, all while victims were 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.299 kept in the dark. They know how JPMorgan and 00:17:37.299 --> 00:17:39.920 other institutions kept him as a client and processed 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.740 more than a billion dollars in trans - actions 00:17:41.740 --> 00:17:43.779 even after he was a registered sex offender. 00:17:43.859 --> 00:17:46.299 They look at the fact that after his 2019 arrest 00:17:46.299 --> 00:17:48.799 and death, only one close associate, Maxwell, 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:50.559 has been brought to trial. While the many powerful 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.980 people in his orbit have mostly carried on, but 00:17:52.980 --> 00:17:55.000 all that together in the conspiracy isn't just 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.160 about espionage or murder. It's about a system 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:59.460 that quietly decides which criminals are too 00:17:59.460 --> 00:18:01.759 connected to fail. The what here is about continuity 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.680 of power. If you start tugging too hard on the 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.420 Epstein thread, you might unravel confidence 00:18:05.420 --> 00:18:08.000 in the entire institutions so the system's ops 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.400 for a controlled burn instead of a full fire. 00:18:10.410 --> 00:18:13.509 We received substantial evidence that he was 00:18:13.509 --> 00:18:18.089 involved in trafficking young women and children 00:18:18.089 --> 00:18:21.349 to the Virgin Islands for a very long period 00:18:21.349 --> 00:18:23.910 of time. Through our airport, through his private 00:18:23.910 --> 00:18:26.509 jet, he would then transport them over to Little 00:18:26.509 --> 00:18:29.529 St. James, where he has his complex, which is 00:18:29.529 --> 00:18:32.309 his official residence. These young girls and 00:18:32.309 --> 00:18:35.349 women were subject to sexual assault, sexual 00:18:35.349 --> 00:18:38.849 exploitation, through coercion, false imprisonment, 00:18:39.089 --> 00:18:41.690 where the past at some points were taken away, 00:18:41.950 --> 00:18:44.970 the actions were reprehensible and it was quite 00:18:44.970 --> 00:18:48.569 a number of women and we found through our investigation 00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:53.089 that at least up to 2018 that continued. So what 00:18:53.089 --> 00:18:55.950 your investigation is showing is the broad scope 00:18:55.950 --> 00:18:58.930 of Jeffrey Epstein's nefarious activities, that 00:18:58.930 --> 00:19:01.029 it just kept going. Based on the evidence that 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:03.650 we found thus far, let me make something very 00:19:03.650 --> 00:19:07.390 clear. Jeffrey Epstein was very good at protecting 00:19:07.390 --> 00:19:10.619 himself and being secret. The secrecy was he 00:19:10.619 --> 00:19:13.480 was very good at that and because of his wealth 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:17.000 his power He was able to do that and secure that 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:21.500 he owns a private island That's over a mile away 00:19:21.500 --> 00:19:24.359 from st. Thomas the main island and it's out 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.220 there and isolated He purchases that then he 00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:32.119 owns the that flew in to the airport It's under 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.299 a name of one of the front companies that actually 00:19:35.299 --> 00:19:37.900 has been named in our complaint, but it's him 00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:41.940 he He's the member of that LLC. And he owns the 00:19:41.940 --> 00:19:46.579 helicopter and boats that transported him and 00:19:46.579 --> 00:19:49.940 the women and children to the aisle. It's him 00:19:49.940 --> 00:19:52.880 orchestrating all of that. Yes, there may have 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:54.680 been baggage handlers. There may have been other 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:57.740 persons who looked and saw him and other females 00:19:57.740 --> 00:20:00.599 with young girls. It's important that we focus 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:06.019 on how Jeffrey Epstein was able to create such 00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:10.680 an elaborate scheme doing it in such secrecy. 00:20:10.740 --> 00:20:13.019 And he had the money and power to create the 00:20:13.019 --> 00:20:16.240 secrecy so that not just local authorities, but 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.200 we have federal authorities here too. In looking 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:23.019 at that, you have to really get a good understanding 00:20:23.019 --> 00:20:26.200 of how he was able to protect and isolate himself. 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:29.460 Once you get on that island, how do you get off? 00:20:29.619 --> 00:20:33.440 It's not like a person who's on the island can 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.000 just say, okay, I'm going to swim to St. Thomas. 00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:39.450 They can't do that. It's not like a person who's 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:42.430 there and needs help that they can sneak away 00:20:42.430 --> 00:20:45.750 and run outside and flag down a vehicle or flag 00:20:45.750 --> 00:20:48.009 down a police car or run to the nearest police 00:20:48.009 --> 00:20:51.349 station like they might be able to do on St Thomas. 00:20:51.609 --> 00:20:54.750 The island is isolated. So that kind of isolation 00:20:54.750 --> 00:20:57.890 is really how you have to look at when you start 00:20:57.890 --> 00:21:00.990 to think how could this have happened for so 00:21:00.990 --> 00:21:03.390 long. I think the picture you paint is a terrifying 00:21:03.390 --> 00:21:06.190 one, a terrifying one of isolation. but also 00:21:06.190 --> 00:21:08.990 abuse of power, and I just wonder why the people 00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:11.789 who worked for Jeffrey Epstein weren't terrified 00:21:11.789 --> 00:21:14.470 for the girls going over there. They knew how 00:21:14.470 --> 00:21:16.789 isolated that island was. They knew the ages 00:21:16.789 --> 00:21:19.970 of those girls. They saw powerful men there. 00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:23.089 Why weren't they terrified? Why didn't they become 00:21:23.089 --> 00:21:26.769 whistleblowers? One thing I do know is that there 00:21:26.769 --> 00:21:30.789 are the nondisclosure agreements that... Jeffrey 00:21:30.789 --> 00:21:33.970 Epstein had all of the employees, if not most 00:21:33.970 --> 00:21:37.450 of them, had to agree not to disclose any information 00:21:37.450 --> 00:21:41.190 to law enforcement or anyone else regarding what 00:21:41.190 --> 00:21:44.589 goes on that island. Even after Jeffrey Epstein's 00:21:44.589 --> 00:21:47.349 death, those nondisclosure agreements are still 00:21:47.349 --> 00:21:51.250 in place and still enforced by the... estate. 00:21:51.569 --> 00:21:54.309 So this was just one of the ways that you can 00:21:54.309 --> 00:21:57.450 pretty much intimidate or silence people. But 00:21:57.450 --> 00:22:00.690 in addition to that, when you see someone connected 00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:03.890 with powerful people who may visit the island 00:22:03.890 --> 00:22:06.609 or he may be involved with, whether it doesn't 00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:09.069 have to be here, it could be anywhere in the 00:22:09.069 --> 00:22:12.069 world. And it's known that these powerful people 00:22:12.069 --> 00:22:15.799 are his friend and associates. That alone is 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.940 intimidating to the ordinary citizen who's sitting 00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:21.079 there and watching this and say, ooh, that does 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:23.940 not look good. But could you imagine the reluctance 00:22:23.940 --> 00:22:25.960 of that person to say, I'm going to come forward, 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.039 I'm going to tell on that person who's friends 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:30.740 with all these powerful people? So that alone, 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.119 the way that he surrounded himself with these 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.359 powerful people, that was an example of the kind 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:39.059 of intimidation that would cause people to be 00:22:39.059 --> 00:22:41.849 silent about what they may see or suspect. As 00:22:41.849 --> 00:22:44.369 far as the Virgin Islands is concerned, I need 00:22:44.369 --> 00:22:47.059 to make sure that... the Virgin Islands is not 00:22:47.059 --> 00:22:50.099 and is not perceived as a haven for this kind 00:22:50.099 --> 00:22:53.359 of sexual exploitation, human trafficking, and 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:55.960 sexual and child abuse. We have to make that 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.880 clear. It is very important that we enforce our 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.579 laws against human trafficking, against child 00:23:01.579 --> 00:23:04.660 abuse, against sexual exploitation of women. 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.240 It is important that we do that because if I 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.339 don't do it as the attorney general, the top 00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:13.480 law enforcement person, if we do not do it in 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.220 the Virgin Islands, then those types of crimes 00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:18.759 will continue to flourish. If I'm being completely 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:20.660 honest, when I look at the Epstein story, the 00:23:20.660 --> 00:23:22.660 way a cop looks at a case file, I don't see a 00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:24.839 random suicide or a Hollywood style assassination. 00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:27.200 I see a man who was allowed to die in a cage 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.599 that was perfectly engineered through neglect 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:31.619 or a tent to make sure no one stopped him. You've 00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:33.759 got a high value inmate who knows the worst secrets 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:35.700 of the world's most powerful people, a guy who 00:23:35.700 --> 00:23:37.940 once walked away with a sweetheart deal that 00:23:37.940 --> 00:23:40.279 no ordinary offender could ever dream of. And 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.000 when he finally lands back in federal custody 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.859 and suddenly the Bureau of Prisons forgets how 00:23:43.859 --> 00:23:46.799 to do the one thing it exists to do, keep a prisoner 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.299 safe long enough to face a trial. That's not 00:23:49.299 --> 00:23:51.579 just bad luck. That's a system that at minimum 00:23:51.579 --> 00:23:54.240 stop caring about whether he lived or died at 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:56.420 the exact moment. His testimony would have been 00:23:56.420 --> 00:23:58.799 most dangerous. Do I think he was capable of 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:01.019 killing himself? Absolutely. He was cornered 00:24:01.019 --> 00:24:02.839 aging and smart enough to read the writing on 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:04.920 the wall. This wasn't 2008. There were no plea 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.220 deals, no work releases, no going back to the 00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:09.539 island. So yeah, suicide is plausible here, but 00:24:09.539 --> 00:24:11.259 look at the environment around that decision. 00:24:11.299 --> 00:24:13.180 He's taken off suicide watch. He's left with 00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:14.930 a cellmate. The guards don't do their rounds. 00:24:15.049 --> 00:24:17.069 The logs are faked. The cameras don't give you 00:24:17.069 --> 00:24:19.470 the clean view. And when the autopsy hits, the 00:24:19.470 --> 00:24:21.529 injuries are controversial enough that experts 00:24:21.529 --> 00:24:23.930 are still arguing about them years later. Maybe 00:24:23.930 --> 00:24:25.829 no one walked into the cell and strangled him. 00:24:25.849 --> 00:24:27.589 But it sure looks like the system opened every 00:24:27.589 --> 00:24:29.890 door you'd need to have open if you wanted a 00:24:29.890 --> 00:24:32.109 desperate man to take the one exit that protects 00:24:32.109 --> 00:24:34.150 everybody but the victims. Then there's a list. 00:24:34.269 --> 00:24:36.190 And this is where the story stops being about 00:24:36.190 --> 00:24:38.630 one dead man and starts being about the ecosystem 00:24:38.630 --> 00:24:41.009 around him. There isn't one neat laminated client 00:24:41.009 --> 00:24:42.910 list the government admits to. What there is 00:24:42.910 --> 00:24:44.950 is an overlapping circle of association. You 00:24:44.950 --> 00:24:47.470 got flight logs, people who flew on his planes, 00:24:47.670 --> 00:24:49.410 stayed at his properties, moved through his orbit. 00:24:49.470 --> 00:24:51.869 You got the social web, the dinners, the fundraisers, 00:24:51.910 --> 00:24:54.390 the donations to universities and to labs, the 00:24:54.390 --> 00:24:56.809 meetings with tech founders, CEOs, Royals, former 00:24:56.809 --> 00:24:58.970 presidents. You got the financial ties, billionaires 00:24:58.970 --> 00:25:00.609 who let him run their money, banks that kept 00:25:00.609 --> 00:25:02.910 him as a client even after he was a convicted 00:25:02.910 --> 00:25:05.029 sex offender, institutions that kept cashing 00:25:05.029 --> 00:25:07.009 his checks because he opened doors they wanted 00:25:07.009 --> 00:25:08.730 open. And then there's the smallest, darkest 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:11.210 circle, the alleged co -conspirators and enablers. 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.440 the fixers, the schedulers, the people who helped 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.900 make the abuse machine run while pretending they 00:25:16.900 --> 00:25:18.640 were just part of the furniture. So when people 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:20.980 say the list, what they're really talking about 00:25:20.980 --> 00:25:23.839 is that whole spectrum from clueless elites who 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:25.900 thought he was just a rich connector all the 00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:28.119 way up to predators and power brokers who may 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.259 have had every reason to be terrified of him 00:25:30.259 --> 00:25:32.420 talking under oath. My best guess, the real list 00:25:32.420 --> 00:25:34.480 that matters isn't just who flew on the plane, 00:25:34.619 --> 00:25:36.880 it's who was actually compromised. And with that, 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:39.059 it's probably a mix of people who were stupid, 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.000 people who were selfish and people who are just 00:25:40.779 --> 00:25:43.279 downright evil. And the reason we've never seen 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.680 that list in full is because releasing it would 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.359 set off political, financial, and cultural explosions 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.799 nobody in power is willing to risk. So here's 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.619 where I'd land. Epstein was a predator, but he 00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:55.000 was also just a node, a junction point where 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.380 money, sex, leverage, and power all met. His 00:25:57.380 --> 00:25:59.319 fortune wasn't some genius hedgefunch story. 00:25:59.380 --> 00:26:01.480 It was built on a tiny circle of ultra wealthy 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.039 clients and institutions that found him useful 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.220 and didn't ask too many questions. His contact 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.380 book, his flight logs, his archives, whatever 00:26:08.380 --> 00:26:10.619 they actually contain are dangerous. Not because 00:26:10.619 --> 00:26:12.740 they prove one cartoon villain controls the world, 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.160 but because they show how many supposedly separate 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.799 worlds quietly overlap. Politics, finance, royalty, 00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:20.359 science, media. And when the man finally became 00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:22.779 a liability instead of an asset, the system didn't 00:26:22.779 --> 00:26:24.900 rush to protect his life. It's sleepwalk just 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:26.819 long enough for a problem to disappear. Whether 00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:28.880 you're believed he was murdered, allowed to die, 00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:30.960 or vanished and replaced, the message is the 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.599 same. The people who needed him silenced got 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.400 what they needed. The victims didn't. The public 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.539 didn't. Justice didn't. And that's why his story 00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:39.160 won't die, because at some level everyone can 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.390 feel But the official narrative can't say out 00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:43.549 loud Epstein's death wasn't just the end of a 00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:45.890 man It was a signal that there are several levels 00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:48.029 of power in this world that would rather break 00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:49.970 their own roles Then let the truth walk into 00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:51.950 a courtroom and start talking if tonight's episode 00:26:51.950 --> 00:26:53.730 hit something in your gut. Don't leave it here 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.259 Share this with someone who thinks that this 00:26:56.259 --> 00:26:58.960 was just another suicide in a bad jail. Leave 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.539 a review, hit follow, and help push the Zero 00:27:01.539 --> 00:27:03.779 Signal further into the feeds if they don't want 00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:05.579 you scrolling. And if you've seen this kind of 00:27:05.579 --> 00:27:07.460 machinery up close, if you weren't a badger, 00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:09.579 worked the case, pushed intel, or just brushed 00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:11.579 up against something you weren't supposed to 00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:13.380 see, I want to hear from you. You can reach out 00:27:13.380 --> 00:27:15.440 safely through our booking form in the show notes. 00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:17.839 Until next time, stay sharp, stay skeptical, 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.980 and remember, the story they tell you is never 00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:23.519 the whole report. This is Zero Signal. Logging 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:23.900 off.