WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.600
This episode is brought to you by Prep Start

00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:05.599
Now, because life doesn't come with a warning.

00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.220
When an emergency strikes, whether it's a power

00:00:08.220 --> 00:00:11.119
outage, natural disaster, or even a medical scare,

00:00:11.339 --> 00:00:13.480
the last thing you want is panic. Prep Start

00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.179
Now empowers families to be ready with the right

00:00:16.179 --> 00:00:19.059
tools, knowledge, and confidence. They're about

00:00:19.059 --> 00:00:21.679
smart planning so you can focus on protecting

00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:24.300
your family instead of scrambling for solutions.

00:00:24.780 --> 00:00:27.120
Their shop has everything from first aid kits

00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.469
and water filtration to backup power and essential

00:00:30.469 --> 00:00:33.590
gear. Plus, their Prep Academy makes it easy

00:00:33.590 --> 00:00:36.090
to learn emergency skills with simple guides

00:00:36.090 --> 00:00:38.770
and quick tips anyone can follow. I've arranged

00:00:38.770 --> 00:00:41.289
an exclusive 15 % discount for my listeners.

00:00:41.570 --> 00:00:44.950
Just go to prepstartsnow .com and use promo code

00:00:44.950 --> 00:00:47.649
zero signal at checkout or click the link in

00:00:47.649 --> 00:00:50.390
my show notes where the discount is applied automatically.

00:00:50.990 --> 00:00:54.109
Don't wait for the next crisis. Take action today.

00:00:54.490 --> 00:00:58.250
That's prepstartsnow .com promo code zero signal.

00:01:03.229 --> 00:01:06.609
You're tuned into Zero Signal, a show about what

00:01:06.609 --> 00:01:08.810
they won't say and what you're probably already

00:01:08.810 --> 00:01:12.150
thinking. No fluff, no filters, no bullshit.

00:01:12.969 --> 00:01:21.909
Let's crack it open. Welcome back to Zero Signal.

00:01:21.930 --> 00:01:24.049
Don't forget to like, subscribe, and drop a comment.

00:01:24.090 --> 00:01:26.489
It really helps the channel grow. So Jay, have

00:01:26.489 --> 00:01:29.230
you ever noticed how Mount Shasta isn't just

00:01:29.230 --> 00:01:31.530
a mountain? You look it up and three clicks later,

00:01:31.849 --> 00:01:34.849
you're knee deep in UFOs, ascended masters, and

00:01:34.849 --> 00:01:37.390
underground cities. It's like Wikipedia got possessed

00:01:37.390 --> 00:01:39.590
by a saiyan. Yeah, man. It's one of those places

00:01:39.590 --> 00:01:41.530
that looks calm on the outside, but the second

00:01:41.530 --> 00:01:43.530
you start reading about it, you realize people

00:01:43.530 --> 00:01:46.049
think it's basically the Earth's USB port to

00:01:46.049 --> 00:01:49.730
the cosmos. Yeah, that's accurate. You got spiritual

00:01:49.730 --> 00:01:52.989
retreats, cults, vanish. Orbs, lights, really

00:01:52.989 --> 00:01:54.829
the works. There's something about the mountain

00:01:54.829 --> 00:01:57.049
that makes people want to find out that meaning

00:01:57.049 --> 00:01:59.510
in the mist. Yeah. It seems to be a magnet for

00:01:59.510 --> 00:02:02.950
the new age. He got yogis, crystal healers, UFO

00:02:02.950 --> 00:02:05.430
hunters, and full on believers setting up shop

00:02:05.430 --> 00:02:07.510
right next to the regular hikers who just came

00:02:07.510 --> 00:02:09.490
to view and mount the summit. Yeah, you're absolutely

00:02:09.490 --> 00:02:11.969
right. And in between all of that, you get the

00:02:11.969 --> 00:02:14.310
stories. The guy who says he met an immortal

00:02:14.310 --> 00:02:17.169
alchemist up there. That's where one of America's

00:02:17.169 --> 00:02:19.349
biggest new age movements really started. The

00:02:19.349 --> 00:02:22.849
whole quote unquote. You also have a little bit

00:02:22.849 --> 00:02:25.990
of St. Germain, violet flames, ascension decrees.

00:02:26.090 --> 00:02:28.650
It's wild how one hiking story turned into a

00:02:28.650 --> 00:02:31.030
full -blown spiritual empire. Man, that's just

00:02:31.030 --> 00:02:33.330
the start. The mountain's seen generations of

00:02:33.330 --> 00:02:36.189
groups since then. Light families, energy healers,

00:02:36.490 --> 00:02:39.229
doomsday prophets, all claiming the same thing.

00:02:39.289 --> 00:02:41.669
The mountain? Smoke to them. Yeah, man. The craziest

00:02:41.669 --> 00:02:43.889
part is it never stops. Every decade, there's

00:02:43.889 --> 00:02:45.669
a new version that pops up. The only thing that

00:02:45.669 --> 00:02:48.189
seems to change color are the robes, the language,

00:02:48.250 --> 00:02:51.300
and the idea's the same. isn't just sacred, it's

00:02:51.300 --> 00:02:53.319
awake according to these people. And tonight

00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.860
we're gonna dig into all of that. the faith,

00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.139
the phanteks, the people who found themselves

00:02:59.139 --> 00:03:01.340
and the ones who lost everything trying. Maybe

00:03:01.340 --> 00:03:04.300
we start with a brief history and get into a

00:03:04.300 --> 00:03:07.479
bit of Lemurian myth. Let's do it. So long before

00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.599
the UFO lights, the metaphysical retreats, Shasta

00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:14.060
rose from fire and ruin. It's a stratovolcano,

00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:18.539
14 ,163 feet high, built over hundreds of thousands

00:03:18.539 --> 00:03:21.659
of years by eruptions and collapse. Beneath it

00:03:21.659 --> 00:03:24.180
lies the bones of an older mountain that crumbled

00:03:24.180 --> 00:03:27.300
in a a cataclysmic event, a landslide about a

00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:30.020
half a million years ago. Black Boot and Shastina,

00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:33.020
its twin cones, grew from the rubble 11 millennia

00:03:33.020 --> 00:03:35.639
ago. The last known eruption around 3 ,200 years

00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.300
past dusted the sky with ash and molten glass.

00:03:38.379 --> 00:03:41.300
Today, the volcano rests under a crown of glaciers,

00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.979
breathing only faint wisps of steam. Quiet, but

00:03:43.979 --> 00:03:46.520
not dead. The U .S. Geological Survey Watchers,

00:03:46.539 --> 00:03:49.020
it is like a sleeping giant, instruments buried

00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:51.240
in the rock to listen for the tremors. Mount

00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.919
Shasta arises from the Sisikyu County and far

00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.319
Northern California, about 60 miles south of

00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:59.159
the Oregon border and 230 miles north of Sacramento.

00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.479
It anchors the southern end of the Cascade Range,

00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.180
which is surrounded by forest, lakes, and the

00:04:05.180 --> 00:04:08.240
small towns of Mount Shasta, McLeod, Weed, and

00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.759
Dunsmear. The travelers on Interstate 5, it appears

00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.520
suddenly, an immense white pyramid against the

00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.620
sky, visible from more than about 100 miles away.

00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.139
For the Pitt River, the Kurek, and Shasta, and

00:04:20.139 --> 00:04:22.040
Wintu peoples, the mountain is older than the

00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.230
planet's memory. a pillar of creation, a living

00:04:24.230 --> 00:04:26.889
ancestor, a place where the sky and earth were

00:04:26.889 --> 00:04:29.610
joined. Panther Meadow remains their sacred altar.

00:04:29.750 --> 00:04:31.730
They call it a birthplace of the world itself.

00:04:31.850 --> 00:04:34.290
To them, the stories of portals and light ships

00:04:34.290 --> 00:04:36.769
are echoes of something far deeper. Shasta has

00:04:36.769 --> 00:04:39.629
always been this bridge, just not the kind tourists

00:04:39.629 --> 00:04:41.889
imagine. The mountain's modern name took shape

00:04:41.889 --> 00:04:44.290
in the 19th century when the Hudson's Bay Company

00:04:44.290 --> 00:04:47.769
trapper, Peter Ogden, mapped it in 1827. Spelling's

00:04:47.769 --> 00:04:52.110
waiver, Shasta Shasti, and multiple other variants.

00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:55.329
until about 1850, when Mount Shasta finally stuck.

00:04:55.449 --> 00:04:57.350
By then, the Gold Rush had begun, and legends

00:04:57.350 --> 00:04:59.589
had started to grow. The mountain's long double

00:04:59.589 --> 00:05:02.889
life as both geological marvel and mythic engine

00:05:02.889 --> 00:05:05.930
was already sealed. Now, the big map is of the

00:05:05.930 --> 00:05:07.470
Lumarians. Do you know anything about the Lumarians?

00:05:07.610 --> 00:05:11.290
So, the term Lumaria didn't start as like a metaphysical

00:05:11.290 --> 00:05:14.029
or a cult concept at all, though it did transition

00:05:14.029 --> 00:05:17.410
into that. The term Lumaria was coined by a fellow

00:05:17.410 --> 00:05:19.990
by the name of Philip Scatlettor. He was a British

00:05:19.990 --> 00:05:22.899
zoologist specializing in mammals and birds.

00:05:23.139 --> 00:05:26.199
In 1864, he published The Mammals of Madagascar

00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:28.519
in the Quarterly Journal of Science. This is

00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.699
an interesting fact. He noted that lemurs only

00:05:30.699 --> 00:05:33.439
existed in Madagascar in India, but not in Africa

00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.319
or the Mideast. He explained this by proposing

00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.360
a new submerged landmass connecting Madagascar

00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.759
to southern India and perhaps Western Australia.

00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.819
And he called that missing landmass Lemuria.

00:05:45.019 --> 00:05:48.220
The Lemuria began as a biogeographical hypothesis,

00:05:48.540 --> 00:05:51.259
essentially an early attempt to explain in species

00:05:51.259 --> 00:05:53.500
migrations before the plate tectonics or the

00:05:53.500 --> 00:05:56.199
continental drift were understood. So the term

00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.839
was eventually adopted by 19th century naturalists.

00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:02.339
So a fellow by the name of Ernd Hegel, he was

00:06:02.339 --> 00:06:05.199
a German evolutionary biologist and he suggested

00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.180
Lumeria as the cradle of humanity where the first

00:06:08.180 --> 00:06:10.399
men might've evolved. Also a scientist by the

00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.220
name of Alfred Wallace, co -founder of evolutionary

00:06:13.220 --> 00:06:15.839
theory, mentioned but rejected Lumeria favoring

00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.220
other land bridge explanations. And then Thomas

00:06:18.220 --> 00:06:20.560
Huxley briefly referenced the continent between

00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:24.259
India and Africa in his early geological speculation.

00:06:24.459 --> 00:06:27.160
By the 1880s, the whole continental drift theory

00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.360
came about and it made such a continent unnecessary

00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.620
and scientific community pretty much dropped

00:06:32.620 --> 00:06:35.139
the whole concept of Lumaria. A theosophist by

00:06:35.139 --> 00:06:38.060
the name of Helena Vlaski actually picked up

00:06:38.060 --> 00:06:40.939
the term Lumaria and she appropriated the name.

00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.319
So from a land bridge to an ancient spiritual

00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.259
continent, that's how the whole transition happened.

00:06:46.379 --> 00:06:48.899
She was an occultist. She founded theosophy.

00:06:48.970 --> 00:06:52.209
The term theosophy encompasses two words, theos,

00:06:52.310 --> 00:06:54.910
which is God, and Sophia, which is wisdom. So

00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:57.110
it literally means divine wisdom. It's not a

00:06:57.110 --> 00:06:59.250
single religion, but a worldview that combines

00:06:59.250 --> 00:07:02.069
elements of Eastern mysticism, Western esotericism,

00:07:02.149 --> 00:07:05.509
and the cult philosophy. So she founded this

00:07:05.509 --> 00:07:08.490
religion philosophy in the late 19th century.

00:07:08.649 --> 00:07:10.889
She was a Russian mystic and author who co -founded

00:07:10.889 --> 00:07:14.310
the Theosophical Society in 1875. So I think

00:07:14.310 --> 00:07:16.769
this is a big part of the reason that Mount Shasta

00:07:16.769 --> 00:07:20.470
is considered such a new age, kind of hippy type

00:07:20.470 --> 00:07:24.110
thing. This is where some of the theories are

00:07:24.110 --> 00:07:27.050
mixed in with occult viewpoints and maybe a little

00:07:27.050 --> 00:07:29.310
bit blown out of proportion. Because these people

00:07:29.310 --> 00:07:32.310
believe in universal brotherhood, karma and reincarnation.

00:07:32.430 --> 00:07:34.670
They believe in these hidden masters, esoteric

00:07:34.670 --> 00:07:37.670
wisdom and unity of science, religion and philosophy,

00:07:37.769 --> 00:07:40.250
which is a red flag for me because that points

00:07:40.250 --> 00:07:42.470
to revelation and the world government, one world

00:07:42.470 --> 00:07:46.350
religion. So this is almost a precursor to some

00:07:46.350 --> 00:07:48.980
of this one world type. So it always comes back

00:07:48.980 --> 00:07:50.819
to the Russians. It's always an interesting concept.

00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:52.759
We've seen them in Antartica. We've seen them

00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.139
in multiple places when we talk about these conspiracy

00:07:55.139 --> 00:07:56.860
theories. But you talked about her teachings,

00:07:57.019 --> 00:08:00.000
the secret doctrine, which was written in 1888.

00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.120
It transformed those proto -geological musings

00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.920
into this kind of sacred history. She wrote that

00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.899
the Lemurians were a mighty root race, immense

00:08:08.899 --> 00:08:11.939
in stature, psychic in perception, and far older

00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:14.439
than recorded time. They communed telepathically,

00:08:14.860 --> 00:08:17.319
mastered crystal technology, and lived in harmony

00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.939
with the planet until the Great Cataclysm. Volcanic,

00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:23.199
Tidal, and perhaps, Carmaic dragged their civilization

00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.459
beneath the Pacific. Later esoteric traditions

00:08:25.459 --> 00:08:27.800
declared that not all perished. Survivors guided

00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.120
by higher beings fled inland to preserve their

00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.799
culture. The tallest, brightest, and most spiritually

00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.620
advanced salt refuge inside the mountain of power,

00:08:35.779 --> 00:08:38.460
Mount Shasta. There they built Tellios, a hidden

00:08:38.460 --> 00:08:41.299
city carved in crystal and gold, its halls glowing

00:08:41.299 --> 00:08:43.759
with light that never fades. Over the centuries,

00:08:43.940 --> 00:08:46.679
these Lemurians became immortal sto - of our

00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.440
secret wisdom, emerging rarely to guide the surface

00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:52.080
world when it strayed too far from its balance.

00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.860
Mount Shasta's mythology really described them

00:08:54.860 --> 00:08:57.779
as tall, graceful beings robed in white and radiant

00:08:57.779 --> 00:09:00.840
calm. Hikers tell of fleeting encounters, figures

00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.080
glimpsed through the trees, footprints that started

00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.039
to vanish, and a voice in the wind that seemed

00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.860
both distant and kind. Now, these New Age movements

00:09:07.860 --> 00:09:10.919
treat them as ascendant mentors, channeling messages

00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:14.139
of planetary healing and cosmic unity. To some,

00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.210
the Lemerians are are the missing link between

00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:18.730
the ancient myth and the alien contact. And to

00:09:18.730 --> 00:09:20.850
others, they are symbols of spiritual endurance,

00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:23.610
a race that survived disaster, not by fleeing

00:09:23.610 --> 00:09:25.889
outward, but inward into the heart of the earth.

00:09:26.049 --> 00:09:28.169
Kind of like that hollow earth theory that we

00:09:28.169 --> 00:09:30.769
hear a whole lot about. Whether history, allegory,

00:09:30.789 --> 00:09:33.429
or hope, I think their legend has fused forever

00:09:33.429 --> 00:09:35.929
with Mount Shasta's now snow -bright summit.

00:09:36.029 --> 00:09:38.169
The mountain, they say, still hums with their

00:09:38.169 --> 00:09:40.009
memory. Listen long enough and you might hear

00:09:40.009 --> 00:09:42.929
it. A low vibration, deep as the ocean that they

00:09:42.929 --> 00:09:45.789
once called home. The theory is really an interesting

00:09:45.789 --> 00:09:48.230
concept. I'm not convinced I believe in it, but

00:09:48.230 --> 00:09:50.629
it comes back to what we've heard about is the

00:09:50.629 --> 00:09:52.169
continents being united. I think the original

00:09:52.169 --> 00:09:54.169
theory was called Pangea, where all the continents

00:09:54.169 --> 00:09:56.509
were united. Some say when the Great Flood happened,

00:09:56.710 --> 00:09:59.590
the seas birthed from below and separated these

00:09:59.590 --> 00:10:01.909
continents. I think this is maybe another retelling

00:10:01.909 --> 00:10:05.049
of that story of how all of society and all peoples

00:10:05.049 --> 00:10:07.409
in the world were connected at one time. I know

00:10:07.409 --> 00:10:11.230
they point to now discarded 19th century philosophy

00:10:11.230 --> 00:10:14.779
that a missing land mass had once Asia, Africa,

00:10:14.940 --> 00:10:17.639
and Australia, explaining that spread of similar

00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.879
fossils across the oceans. I know that ideal

00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.840
slipped from geology into myth when spiritualists

00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.200
and theosophists adopted it, claiming Lemuria

00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:29.179
wasn't just a continent, it was humanity's first

00:10:29.179 --> 00:10:31.279
cradle, much like we see now with the Middle

00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.379
East. So it's a really interesting... claims

00:10:34.379 --> 00:10:37.299
in groups. But what we find is that there's a

00:10:37.299 --> 00:10:39.879
whole lot of interesting things going over on

00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.519
Mount Shasta that people have claimed for a very

00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.580
long time up into including modern history. What

00:10:45.580 --> 00:10:48.649
are some interesting lore or myths or perhaps

00:10:48.649 --> 00:10:50.450
reality that you heard of. What's that one that

00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:52.049
stands out to you? Yeah, before I go into that,

00:10:52.049 --> 00:10:53.929
I just kind of want to circle back to this Helena

00:10:53.929 --> 00:10:57.309
Bavlosky lady, the Theosophist. It's interesting

00:10:57.309 --> 00:11:00.330
how she apparently got her knowledge of this.

00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:03.269
So she claimed to have gotten her hand on an

00:11:03.269 --> 00:11:07.210
ancient book written in Zanzar, a secret language

00:11:07.210 --> 00:11:09.870
known only to adepts in the Brotherhood of Tibet.

00:11:09.970 --> 00:11:12.549
It was called the Astanzas of Daisen. So she

00:11:12.549 --> 00:11:15.649
got instructions of how to translate this from

00:11:15.649 --> 00:11:19.100
the masters of wisdom from the Mahatmas who she

00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:21.440
said trained her during her years in Tibet and

00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.340
communicated telepathically afterward and through

00:11:24.340 --> 00:11:27.840
clairvoyant perception her own and that of initiates

00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.059
who could perceive passages through the Akashic

00:11:31.059 --> 00:11:33.980
records. So like back in the late 1800s early

00:11:33.980 --> 00:11:37.200
1900s you had this big spiritualist movement

00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.080
with a lot of mediums and psychic readers and

00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.919
a lot of this kind of stemmed from her. So my

00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.240
radar starts to ping when I hear somebody translating

00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.600
quote unquote ancient texts with the help of

00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.299
quote unquote masters and through automatic writing

00:11:51.299 --> 00:11:54.940
telepathy. To me, that is a bunch of satanic

00:11:54.940 --> 00:11:59.919
BS and somebody who is messing with the demonic

00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:03.220
realm. And right there in my head, throws the

00:12:03.220 --> 00:12:05.519
whole concept of Lumaria out the door. She did

00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.460
talk about Atlantis. She did talk about other

00:12:07.460 --> 00:12:09.740
civilizations. And it's not that I don't agree

00:12:09.740 --> 00:12:13.220
that Atlantis didn't exist. I do think. It probably

00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:15.759
existed in some form of fashion, just like Lumaria.

00:12:15.860 --> 00:12:18.200
I don't know if these people are talking about

00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.799
the same kind of pre -flood, one world civilization,

00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.100
and they're all just naming it different things.

00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.419
Every culture may have a different name for it.

00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:28.440
Even though I think the term Lumaria, we pretty

00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:30.600
much find where it came from. It came from a

00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.700
guy trying to explain how lemurs ended up in

00:12:32.700 --> 00:12:34.360
some parts of the world, but not others. And

00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:36.340
he explained it by this submerged continent.

00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.659
But I just wanted to point that out to the listeners

00:12:38.659 --> 00:12:41.100
that when you're getting information for somebody

00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:43.220
who claims to be a clairvoyant who has their

00:12:43.220 --> 00:12:45.779
hands on secret quote unquote documents and are

00:12:45.779 --> 00:12:48.200
learning from quote unquote masters of wisdom.

00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.440
It always throws up that red flag for me. Masters

00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.820
of the universe. I think of He -Man whenever

00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:55.039
I hear that. Some of those things are just bizarre.

00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.360
And what they're talking about and what we see

00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.299
as a reoccurring theme throughout our history

00:12:59.299 --> 00:13:01.580
is people are trying to create this kind of perfect

00:13:01.580 --> 00:13:04.539
race that has command over everything. They talk

00:13:04.539 --> 00:13:07.019
about Lemuria as this vast Pacific continent

00:13:07.019 --> 00:13:10.320
that birthed humanity's earliest race. When Lemuria

00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:12.990
sank. its most advanced being supposedly migrated

00:13:12.990 --> 00:13:15.169
inland, building these new sanctuaries in the

00:13:15.169 --> 00:13:17.769
mountains. They said later generations of mystics

00:13:17.769 --> 00:13:20.409
gave those refugees a postal address, which was

00:13:20.409 --> 00:13:24.149
Mount Shasta. Here the Lemurians became the architects

00:13:24.149 --> 00:13:27.029
of Tellios, a subterranean city of crystal halls

00:13:27.029 --> 00:13:29.789
and radiant gardens. Channelers claim to converse

00:13:29.789 --> 00:13:33.009
with their high priest, Adama, who teaches love,

00:13:33.169 --> 00:13:36.009
peace, and the eventual reunion of the surface

00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:39.070
and inner worlds. What began as this 19th century

00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:41.639
metaphysical allegory turned into the 20th century

00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.019
tourism phenomenon. Past scripture, part science

00:13:45.019 --> 00:13:47.940
fiction, and entirely Shasta. That leap from

00:13:47.940 --> 00:13:51.539
her root race myth to this kind of modern new

00:13:51.539 --> 00:13:54.519
age geography made the mountain a living chapter

00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.759
in the alternative prehistory. To believers,

00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.860
Tellios' proof that enlightenment didn't just

00:14:00.860 --> 00:14:03.500
vanish with the floods, it simply moved underground,

00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.279
waiting for humanity to evolve enough to find

00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.200
its front door. It's interesting that we're talking

00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.840
about the flood again. We see it with Atlantis.

00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.480
We see it with Noah. We see it across the world.

00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.419
And sometimes I wonder if it's just a retelling

00:14:15.419 --> 00:14:18.019
and a reversioning of what God gave us in the

00:14:18.019 --> 00:14:19.500
first place. Like you're always talking about

00:14:19.500 --> 00:14:21.379
the core themes and perhaps if you don't believe

00:14:21.379 --> 00:14:23.360
in God and you experienced the event, you're

00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.299
not quite sure what to call it in your history

00:14:25.299 --> 00:14:27.559
books as you're about to drown and write in your

00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:30.860
logs and hopefully it saves it. Yeah. I also

00:14:30.860 --> 00:14:33.399
want to point to a guy named Frederick Spencer

00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:37.080
Oliver. He wrote a book on Mount Shasta and a

00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.830
bunch of other lost civilizations. And he claimed

00:14:39.830 --> 00:14:42.269
that he did automatic writing through phylos

00:14:42.269 --> 00:14:45.149
the Tibetan. So there's no real archeological

00:14:45.149 --> 00:14:48.149
or historical verification for the specific technologies

00:14:48.149 --> 00:14:50.990
or civilizations he describes. But again, we

00:14:50.990 --> 00:14:53.509
have another theosophist, a guy who was influenced

00:14:53.509 --> 00:14:57.049
by Baflaski and who was heavy into the new cult

00:14:57.049 --> 00:15:00.909
and new age. And he came up with a lot of the

00:15:00.909 --> 00:15:03.370
myths stories he built up on him through his

00:15:03.370 --> 00:15:06.350
writings. And again, he did it claiming that

00:15:06.350 --> 00:15:09.110
he channeled a master. Which, in my book, you're

00:15:09.110 --> 00:15:11.110
channeling a demonic presence who's going to

00:15:11.110 --> 00:15:13.409
lie to you. Sometimes I think when people channel

00:15:13.409 --> 00:15:16.080
these beings or spirits, there might be some

00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.240
half -truths in there. They might throw out 10

00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:21.240
facts to you. One may be truth, maybe two, but

00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.360
the other eight or nine are lies. So it just

00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.100
blows my mind that there's so much occult, so

00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:30.240
much esoteric stuff that's associated with this

00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.879
mountain and some of the myths in it. Yeah, there's

00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:33.779
a lot of cult activity that goes on there. Have

00:15:33.779 --> 00:15:37.639
you heard of the Shasta Sedona ley line? I haven't,

00:15:37.820 --> 00:15:40.519
tell me. So if you trace the invisible map that

00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:43.259
believers call Earth's energy grid, a single

00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.860
bright current runs from Mount Shasta in Northern

00:15:45.860 --> 00:15:48.779
California, all the way to Red Rocks of Sedona,

00:15:48.779 --> 00:15:51.759
Arizona. Now they say this shimmering path is

00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.179
said to pass the Grand Canyon, Pyramid Lake,

00:15:54.259 --> 00:15:56.980
and the Dry Nevada desert, whispered to hide

00:15:56.980 --> 00:16:01.259
Area 51. To those who map by magnetism and myth,

00:16:01.500 --> 00:16:04.240
Shasta and Sedona are twin nodes, two ends of

00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.460
a spiritual wire kind of humming beneath the

00:16:06.460 --> 00:16:08.259
continent. Visitors to either place describe

00:16:08.259 --> 00:16:10.940
the same sensations when they visit, meditation

00:16:10.940 --> 00:16:14.440
that hits like altitude. that vibrates time that

00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.480
bends healers talk about alignments during solstice

00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.659
when the line between the two mountains fires

00:16:19.659 --> 00:16:22.679
connecting their vortexes in a pulse of planetary

00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.320
energy skeptics call it coincidence but pilgrims

00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.080
bring copper pendulums and compasses anyways

00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.220
watching needles twitch as the heart races whether

00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:34.419
it's geology geomancy or the imagination the

00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:37.259
Shasta Sedona line is more than a route it's

00:16:37.259 --> 00:16:39.320
a legend written across the landscape linking

00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.759
two deserts by a current you can't quite see

00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.340
but you can almost feel. I was watching one of

00:16:44.340 --> 00:16:47.159
my favorite YouTubers. They were exploring this

00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.740
area in Sedona and they were venturing out. They

00:16:49.740 --> 00:16:52.720
met a couple of locals near the Sedona ley line

00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.269
and there was a couple of hippies that approached

00:16:55.269 --> 00:16:57.690
them and they gave them all of these copper trinkets

00:16:57.690 --> 00:16:59.909
to take with them to Mount Shasta saying it was

00:16:59.909 --> 00:17:02.190
going to be some type of dedication or something

00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:04.589
that would protect them. So there are a lot of

00:17:04.589 --> 00:17:07.130
believers out there that I would classify as

00:17:07.130 --> 00:17:09.430
a cult that believe that these things are linked

00:17:09.430 --> 00:17:11.990
together, that there are two things that are

00:17:11.990 --> 00:17:15.289
transitioning as one and are connected by this

00:17:15.289 --> 00:17:18.230
mythical energy field. And I think we go back

00:17:18.230 --> 00:17:20.769
to 1888 when we talk about the Ossipist, but

00:17:20.769 --> 00:17:23.130
it's all weird and I don't know where they're

00:17:23.130 --> 00:17:24.589
always actually getting it. But you're right.

00:17:24.589 --> 00:17:26.410
If they're in communion with what they called

00:17:26.410 --> 00:17:29.849
the master or some type of dominion spirit that

00:17:29.849 --> 00:17:32.130
gave them misinformation, it sounds pretty suspect

00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:34.190
in my book. Yeah. So have you heard about JC

00:17:34.190 --> 00:17:36.809
Brown's secret tunnel and giant mummy's tail?

00:17:36.910 --> 00:17:38.450
Oh, this is a good one. Yeah, go with it. Yeah.

00:17:38.470 --> 00:17:40.549
I'll start it off. And if I miss something, pop

00:17:40.549 --> 00:17:43.930
in. So in 1904, British prospector, JC Brown

00:17:43.930 --> 00:17:46.809
allegedly discovered an 11 mile tunnel inside

00:17:46.809 --> 00:17:49.250
of Mount Shasta while working for the Lord Cowdrake

00:17:49.250 --> 00:17:52.769
Mining Company. So this guy was essentially looking

00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:55.539
for gold. And he claimed as he was prospecting

00:17:55.539 --> 00:17:58.160
around, he found a tunnel, a rather large tunnel.

00:17:58.220 --> 00:17:59.880
And he's like, whatever, I'll go in there, see

00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:02.319
what's in there. So he claimed to have traveled

00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.339
11 miles inside this tunnel. And he said the

00:18:05.339 --> 00:18:07.660
passage led to a hidden village filled with gold

00:18:07.660 --> 00:18:10.559
nuggets, copper shields, some strange hylogryphs,

00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.099
jade tablets. And he claimed that there were

00:18:13.099 --> 00:18:16.720
27 mummified giants ranging from six foot six

00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.839
to 10 feet tall. And he claimed that these giants

00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.380
of this lost civilization had advanced holes.

00:18:22.380 --> 00:18:25.119
and it appears that they had a pretty advanced

00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.299
society and that seemingly they revered them

00:18:27.299 --> 00:18:30.099
out in the sacred. Brown apparently kept this

00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:33.519
secret for 30 years. Then in 1934, he shared

00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.680
the tale with a journalist named John C. Root,

00:18:35.779 --> 00:18:37.920
who hyped it up in the Los Angeles Times. So

00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.619
he eventually got an expedition of 80 plus people,

00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.400
including scientists and apparently a museum

00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.079
curator, and they assembled in Stockton, California.

00:18:46.299 --> 00:18:49.000
And to get 80 people to come, he promised a portion

00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.819
of the treasure that they would find. There are

00:18:50.819 --> 00:18:53.089
stories about people selling their houses, selling

00:18:53.089 --> 00:18:55.049
everything they own in order to get the gear

00:18:55.049 --> 00:18:58.170
to go on this expedition. So they assembled on

00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:01.549
June 19th, 1934. And the day that they were supposed

00:19:01.549 --> 00:19:04.190
to go, Brown vanished without a trace. So I'll

00:19:04.190 --> 00:19:06.029
let you pick it up from there. Yeah, the story

00:19:06.029 --> 00:19:08.670
really electrified a town. Brown promised to

00:19:08.670 --> 00:19:11.130
lead this expedition and dozens of volunteers

00:19:11.130 --> 00:19:14.170
packed tools, food, lanterns, ready to uncover

00:19:14.170 --> 00:19:16.890
the lost world of Lemoria. But on the morning

00:19:16.890 --> 00:19:19.450
they warded apart, Brown vanished. No farewell,

00:19:19.650 --> 00:19:22.109
no footprints, just an an empty hotel room, and

00:19:22.109 --> 00:19:24.529
then a legend that never stopped breathing. Some

00:19:24.529 --> 00:19:27.789
say he was silenced by the same forces that hide

00:19:27.789 --> 00:19:30.250
Tellios. Others think he found something he shouldn't

00:19:30.250 --> 00:19:33.109
have and never returned. The truth remains buried

00:19:33.109 --> 00:19:35.289
within the mountains. Every generation and other

00:19:35.289 --> 00:19:37.589
seeker claims to have found a hint of the tunnel,

00:19:37.789 --> 00:19:40.130
an air vent, a sealed shaft, a whisper of gold.

00:19:40.289 --> 00:19:42.430
None have ever brought proof, but Mount Shasta's

00:19:42.430 --> 00:19:45.230
mythology and the absence of evidence is the

00:19:45.230 --> 00:19:47.509
evidence. The door exists. It simply chooses

00:19:47.509 --> 00:19:50.230
when and for whom it will open. Now to me, That

00:19:50.230 --> 00:19:52.569
sounds awfully convenient. It sounds like, and

00:19:52.569 --> 00:19:54.450
I don't know much about this guy's background,

00:19:54.690 --> 00:19:56.730
but it sounds like Mr. Brown may have bit off

00:19:56.730 --> 00:19:58.609
a little bit more than he could chew. He enjoyed

00:19:58.609 --> 00:20:00.930
the fame. He enjoyed all the people coming together

00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:04.410
to support his mission. down 11 miles into a

00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:06.829
passage that supposedly ran almost into this

00:20:06.829 --> 00:20:08.990
hollow earth theory kind of towards the center

00:20:08.990 --> 00:20:10.910
of the earth. People were excited. As you said,

00:20:10.910 --> 00:20:12.690
they sold their homes. They collected all their

00:20:12.690 --> 00:20:15.049
belongings. They were excited to take part, discover

00:20:15.049 --> 00:20:17.309
a new society and get a bunch of gold and become

00:20:17.309 --> 00:20:19.069
millionaires as they come on the other end of

00:20:19.069 --> 00:20:20.890
it. But the day they're supposed to leave, Brown's

00:20:20.890 --> 00:20:22.529
like, you know what? Nothing's actually there.

00:20:22.549 --> 00:20:25.150
Peace. I'm out. Like don't find me. And it was

00:20:25.150 --> 00:20:27.849
a lot harder in 1934 to find people once they

00:20:27.849 --> 00:20:30.710
want it to be disappeared. So I find that story

00:20:30.710 --> 00:20:32.890
awfully convenient. that people are saying he

00:20:32.890 --> 00:20:35.349
was silenced. To me, it sounds like a man that

00:20:35.349 --> 00:20:37.309
perhaps just stretched his imagination a little

00:20:37.309 --> 00:20:39.369
bit too far. And when he got called to the carpet

00:20:39.369 --> 00:20:41.049
and he didn't bother showing up. Yeah. It's a

00:20:41.049 --> 00:20:42.990
little bit about his early life. So there's an

00:20:42.990 --> 00:20:46.650
interesting documentary by Steven Sendoni. He

00:20:46.650 --> 00:20:49.390
investigated this story for a 2009 documentary.

00:20:49.609 --> 00:20:53.309
Some sources describe JC Brown as a millionaire

00:20:53.309 --> 00:20:55.589
who refused to give his full name. And this kind

00:20:55.589 --> 00:20:57.369
of fueled speculation that he was hiding in the

00:20:57.369 --> 00:21:01.519
shady past. So Sendoni... believes JC Brown was

00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:05.240
an alias for JB. boat, Body, a retired visitor

00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.440
from out of town with no prior ties to Stockton,

00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:09.799
California. Body, or if you want to call him

00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.460
Brown, had become fascinated by the occult theories,

00:21:12.619 --> 00:21:14.920
particularly James Churchward's books on the

00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.579
lost continents of Mu and emerging Lumaria lore.

00:21:17.740 --> 00:21:19.599
The conclusion of this documentary is that he

00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.839
thinks his obsession with theosophy, lost civilization,

00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.099
inspired him to create this elaborate tale. And

00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:28.680
he set the backdrop as Mount Shasta. And this

00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:32.259
is really stoked the fire for this whole Mount

00:21:32.259 --> 00:21:35.740
Shasta. the conspiracy, the ancient ruins, the

00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:39.019
lost technology. And like you said, I leaned

00:21:39.019 --> 00:21:42.059
to the hoax theory. I think this guy was probably

00:21:42.059 --> 00:21:45.599
well off. He probably had some money and he probably

00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:47.660
thought he wasn't going to get as much traction

00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:50.539
as he was. And by the time he rounded up 80 people,

00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.660
he thought if I go into that mountain with 80

00:21:52.660 --> 00:21:55.740
people and I can't prove that I was here, that

00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:58.519
the story is true, they were going to kill me

00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:00.440
and leave me in the mountain crevices. They're

00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.220
like you said before. Some people theorize he

00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:07.180
was murdered. Some claim that Lumarian guardians

00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:09.680
killed him. Some claim government agents did

00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.519
it. And if I was going to believe any of this

00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.279
murdering theory, I would believe that rival

00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.059
treasure hunters probably killed him to keep

00:22:17.059 --> 00:22:19.420
secrets. I think this man existed. I don't think

00:22:19.420 --> 00:22:21.619
he was murdered. I think he just pieced out of

00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:24.180
the town and he was never seen from again, obviously.

00:22:24.259 --> 00:22:26.519
I think because if you're on the west coast of

00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.240
Northern California and you realize that you've

00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.549
got yourself in a whole heap of trouble. And

00:22:31.549 --> 00:22:33.450
this lie is caught up with you and you have to

00:22:33.450 --> 00:22:34.930
bounce out of town. You're going back to England.

00:22:35.089 --> 00:22:36.990
You're going back to JB body. And you're just

00:22:36.990 --> 00:22:38.569
living the rest of your days, hoping nobody comes

00:22:38.569 --> 00:22:40.890
down and tracks you down because you sold your

00:22:40.890 --> 00:22:42.750
house and all your belongings to get a piece

00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:44.589
of this treasure that didn't exist. Everybody

00:22:44.589 --> 00:22:47.410
else is packing up. They see this guy also packing

00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:48.890
his belongings, thinking they're going to go

00:22:48.890 --> 00:22:50.549
on this long journey together. He's just going

00:22:50.549 --> 00:22:52.670
in the opposite direction. Like he's piecing

00:22:52.670 --> 00:22:54.529
out. I can just imagine people putting all this

00:22:54.529 --> 00:22:56.509
stuff on their backs. And if he did show up and

00:22:56.509 --> 00:22:58.829
they start climbing this mountain and trying

00:22:58.829 --> 00:23:00.970
to find this passageway that doesn't exist. Like

00:23:00.970 --> 00:23:03.630
you said, man, I think he gets murdered up in

00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:06.869
1904. Like in 1904 in the mountains, like no

00:23:06.869 --> 00:23:08.430
one's gonna know he fell off a cliff. I don't

00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:12.549
know what happened. Yeah. Under a rock, nobody's

00:23:12.549 --> 00:23:14.450
going to come looking. It was a vast territory.

00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:16.490
Probably a lot of it was unexplored at that time

00:23:16.490 --> 00:23:18.470
even, and yeah, he would disappear real quick.

00:23:18.750 --> 00:23:20.750
But sticking in the 1800s, 1900s, one of the

00:23:20.750 --> 00:23:23.289
big stories that came out was Saint Germain.

00:23:23.410 --> 00:23:26.710
The Count of Saint Germain was already a legend

00:23:26.710 --> 00:23:29.089
long before Mount Shasta entered the story. In

00:23:29.089 --> 00:23:31.650
18th century Europe, he was known as an alchemist,

00:23:31.710 --> 00:23:34.329
a composer, a diplomat who never seemed to age.

00:23:34.490 --> 00:23:36.690
Some said he possessed the philosopher's stone.

00:23:36.829 --> 00:23:39.109
Others called him immortal. His sudden reappearance

00:23:39.109 --> 00:23:41.259
in the 20th century on a high trail in Northern

00:23:41.259 --> 00:23:44.539
California tied him to European occult history

00:23:44.539 --> 00:23:48.140
to the American landscape. In 1930, Guy Ballard

00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:50.640
claimed he met Saint Germain on the slopes of

00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.420
Shasta. They encountered Bertha I .M. activity,

00:23:53.619 --> 00:23:56.460
fusing theosophic ideals of ascended masters

00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:59.700
with this patriotic mysticism and self -empowerment.

00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.700
The violent, robbed Count, who once haunted European

00:24:02.700 --> 00:24:05.200
salons, now walked in American wilderness, teaching

00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.519
this cosmic law to a nation poised for modernity.

00:24:08.740 --> 00:24:11.099
Today, followers of of the IM activity in its

00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:13.200
offshoots still gathered near the mountain, lighting

00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.059
these violent flames and reciting decrees to

00:24:16.059 --> 00:24:18.480
invoke the master's presence. Saint Germain's

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.859
legend thus spans centuries incontinence in this

00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:24.779
immortal alchemist transplanted from castle halls

00:24:24.779 --> 00:24:27.859
to volcanic meadows, proving that myth like the

00:24:27.859 --> 00:24:30.980
man himself never truly dies. And maybe he saw

00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:33.579
the guy you were talking about. Perhaps he saw

00:24:33.579 --> 00:24:35.480
Saint Germain up there. Maybe Saint Germain knocked

00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.559
him off. Dang it, St. Germain, leave people alone,

00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.779
man. You live forever. Let people look for treasure.

00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:44.059
Now, the thing I find interesting about Ballard

00:24:44.059 --> 00:24:47.119
is that he wrote a book in 1934, which coincidentally,

00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:49.220
I'm not linking the two, but I think it's funny

00:24:49.220 --> 00:24:53.200
how he wrote a book in 1934. And J .C. Brown,

00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.599
this is when he told his story, it was in 1934

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.740
as well. So you have what, in my opinion, is

00:24:57.740 --> 00:24:59.980
two con artists coming up with these fantastic

00:24:59.980 --> 00:25:02.900
stories about Mount Shasta in the same year.

00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.259
So he wrote a book called Unveiled Mysteries.

00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.599
It was the first of the Saint Germain series,

00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.440
Ballard described Germain as ageless with a voice

00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.900
like, vibrant gold bells, kind of like mine.

00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.460
And the ability to materialize and feast from

00:25:18.460 --> 00:25:20.319
the thin air. So essentially he's saying this

00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.880
guy can just make flamingon fall out of the sky

00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.640
and eat it. And he also claims Shasta's etheric

00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:28.640
energy amplified the encounter with Germain explaining

00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:31.539
the mountain as a nexus for Lumarian survivors.

00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:33.819
But Germain claimed that they were from the lost

00:25:33.819 --> 00:25:36.539
continent of Mew. Ascended Beans. Here we go

00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:38.519
with the Ascended Beans again. And like you said,

00:25:38.579 --> 00:25:42.559
they found the whole IM movement. So again, another

00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.740
occultist influenced by theosophists in the same

00:25:45.740 --> 00:25:49.319
year that J .C. Brown's telling people this fantastic

00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:51.420
story about this 11 mile tunnel underneath the

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.819
mountains full of giants, full of gold and jade

00:25:54.819 --> 00:25:56.900
tablets. You had this guy meeting Saint Germain

00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.279
just randomly walking in the woods. It's just,

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.559
it's too coincidental not to be true, bro. You

00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:03.859
got to believe it. I think about the Ascended

00:26:03.859 --> 00:26:07.509
Master. lineage. In cosmology of the Ascendant

00:26:07.509 --> 00:26:10.309
Master teachings, Mount Shasta is really more

00:26:10.309 --> 00:26:13.009
than a terrain. It's this monastery that's sealed

00:26:13.009 --> 00:26:15.589
in the stone. Followers of the summit lighthouse

00:26:15.589 --> 00:26:18.990
and related lineages describe a hidden priesthood

00:26:18.990 --> 00:26:20.869
within the mountain known as the Brotherhood

00:26:20.869 --> 00:26:23.950
of Mount Shasta. These adepts are said to have

00:26:23.950 --> 00:26:26.990
tended to the sacred flame of Mu, the Law -specific

00:26:26.990 --> 00:26:30.049
continent, since before its fall. When the ocean

00:26:30.049 --> 00:26:32.170
reclaimed the world, they carried a spiritual

00:26:32.170 --> 00:26:34.829
fire into the volcano's and kept it burning through

00:26:34.829 --> 00:26:37.470
the centuries of darkness. They say inside Shasta's

00:26:37.470 --> 00:26:39.650
crystals hall, the brotherhood holds a vigil.

00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:42.799
a council of masters of saints and lamarin initiates

00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.980
overseeing the spiritual evolution of the West,

00:26:45.220 --> 00:26:47.079
and pilgrims describe feeling their presence

00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.119
as a sudden peace or a violent radiance that

00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.579
sweeps through the meadows. In this theology

00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:54.660
and in this teaching, the Brotherhood connects

00:26:54.660 --> 00:26:57.640
prehistory and prophecy, the unbroken chain of

00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.660
Mu and the modern seekers. The mountain's glow

00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:04.039
at sunset becomes a sign of the silent guardianship,

00:27:04.220 --> 00:27:06.420
kind of like a beacon for anyone listening beneath

00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:09.539
the noise of wind and time. So you have these

00:27:09.539 --> 00:27:12.559
send it master races. And this ultimate race

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.140
reminds me of the Nazis like master race. Let's

00:27:15.140 --> 00:27:17.819
march forward. It gets kind of wild. And there's

00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:20.660
a lot of connected wild stories to this. I do

00:27:20.660 --> 00:27:23.140
have one that I would love to talk about it.

00:27:23.140 --> 00:27:24.839
It's a little bit further. I just want, I want

00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.339
to, I just want to tell you that the I am movement

00:27:27.339 --> 00:27:30.259
is still alive and well today. They have a Shasta

00:27:30.259 --> 00:27:33.839
Springs retreat, a 400 acre property near Dunsmear.

00:27:33.930 --> 00:27:36.630
North of Shasta hosts summer conclaves, youth

00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:39.210
programs, decree sessions, where participants

00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.089
invoke Jermaine's violet flame for global healing.

00:27:42.250 --> 00:27:44.589
They also have the IM school. It's kindergarten

00:27:44.589 --> 00:27:47.250
through 12th grade in Mount Shasta city, founded

00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:49.990
under Jermaine's quote unquote radiation, integrates

00:27:49.990 --> 00:27:52.250
academics with ascendant master principles like.

00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.150
mighty I am presence. And they also have annual

00:27:55.150 --> 00:27:56.630
pageants. Maybe you shouldn't hurt your daughter

00:27:56.630 --> 00:28:00.650
in the one. They've had these since 1950. The

00:28:00.650 --> 00:28:03.549
I am calm pageant. It's a musical drama on Jesus's

00:28:03.549 --> 00:28:07.569
life plays at GW Ballard amphitheater in Nowshasta

00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:10.750
city. So this, this foundation still exists.

00:28:10.930 --> 00:28:13.809
It publishes 21 books in the St. Germain series

00:28:13.809 --> 00:28:16.410
distributed worldwide and warns against imposter

00:28:16.410 --> 00:28:19.390
groups, diluting the teachings, the Senate master

00:28:19.390 --> 00:28:21.930
teachings. And I guess it's all copyrighted.

00:28:21.769 --> 00:28:23.710
Yeah, man. I don't think I need to enter my daughter.

00:28:23.849 --> 00:28:26.589
I can. Dude, you are that beard, man. That thing's

00:28:26.589 --> 00:28:31.150
killer. No, cool. I think it brings up a good

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:32.769
point though. Do you want to talk a little bit

00:28:32.769 --> 00:28:35.789
about what I am is like? What are their teachings?

00:28:35.950 --> 00:28:38.230
What makes them like a cult? Yeah. So, you know,

00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:41.059
they have. Seven fundamental truths. The first

00:28:41.059 --> 00:28:43.839
one is there's only one presence, God, the I

00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.160
Am, which I agree, there's only one real God,

00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.339
the Son is Jesus Christ. Two, your I Am presence

00:28:49.339 --> 00:28:52.500
is God individualized in you, not a distant deity,

00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.740
but you in perfection. We know we're not perfect

00:28:54.740 --> 00:28:57.619
and we can't gain perfection through our own

00:28:57.619 --> 00:28:59.759
deeds or works. We have to accept Jesus Christ

00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.000
as our Lord and savior. Number three, what you

00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.019
think, feel and say after I Am comes into form.

00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:08.740
So here again, something that unfortunately Finally,

00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.619
in my opinion, has crept into some of the modern

00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:14.859
day church, particularly the prosperity church.

00:29:15.019 --> 00:29:17.380
So this is just another word, in my opinion,

00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.140
and I think my opinion is spot on. So this is

00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:23.400
the whole manifestation thing. You can't manifest

00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.319
anything. You can control the way you think,

00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.559
you can believe in God, you can pray, and God's

00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.119
not gonna give you everything you want. God will

00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.319
bless you beyond measure, but what's a blessing

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.819
for me or you or any of our listeners is completely

00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:37.480
different. So they're proposing this whole manifestation.

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.690
A cult view. Number four, the violent. Flame

00:29:40.690 --> 00:29:44.170
transmutes all human miscreation. So essentially,

00:29:44.289 --> 00:29:46.470
it's Saint Germain's gift to dissolve karma and

00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:48.210
error. Again, we go with this whole karma thing.

00:29:48.289 --> 00:29:50.150
I don't know why Saint Germain seems to be their

00:29:50.150 --> 00:29:52.369
prophet, their messiah, but again, going down

00:29:52.369 --> 00:29:54.829
the wrong road, focus is not on Christ, focus

00:29:54.829 --> 00:29:56.509
is not on loving your neighbor, forgiveness.

00:29:56.650 --> 00:29:59.670
Even in the Bible, God, the prophets, the apostles

00:29:59.670 --> 00:30:02.109
said, you will suffer. And we all suffer in our

00:30:02.109 --> 00:30:05.069
own ways on a very regular basis. But God is

00:30:05.069 --> 00:30:07.130
there to help us get through and strengthen our

00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:09.269
faith. Number five, you're responsible for all.

00:30:10.349 --> 00:30:12.990
Every motion, thaw, or ward is recorded in your

00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:17.549
aura. Again, more BS. This is just so occulty

00:30:17.549 --> 00:30:19.990
and new age. It blows my mind. Number six, the

00:30:19.990 --> 00:30:22.150
Ascendant Masters are real. Beings like Jesus,

00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:25.069
Saint Germain, El Mora, all once walked the earth

00:30:25.069 --> 00:30:28.269
and now assist in the higher planes. So again,

00:30:28.369 --> 00:30:30.690
now we're taking the deity of Jesus Christ and

00:30:30.690 --> 00:30:33.329
either reducing it and putting it on terms of

00:30:33.329 --> 00:30:35.569
other Ascendant Masters or taking these other

00:30:35.569 --> 00:30:38.349
people that at one point in time walked the earth,

00:30:38.349 --> 00:30:41.269
but once they die, they're not helping us anymore.

00:30:41.349 --> 00:30:43.390
They're somewhere else. They're heaven, hell,

00:30:43.589 --> 00:30:45.869
but they're taking these people who have passed

00:30:45.869 --> 00:30:48.670
on and putting them up to Christ's level. And

00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:50.910
last but not least, obedience to the great divine

00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.390
plan is the path of freedom. Harmony and universal

00:30:53.390 --> 00:30:55.950
law leads to ascension. Again, we go back to

00:30:55.950 --> 00:30:59.950
the theosophist beliefs of karma, manifestation,

00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:03.329
taking principles from Eastern religions, Western

00:31:03.329 --> 00:31:06.430
religions, esotericism, and jumbling them all

00:31:06.430 --> 00:31:09.309
up to give this one theological viewpoint where

00:31:09.309 --> 00:31:11.049
everybody can look at it and say, yeah, that's

00:31:11.049 --> 00:31:13.369
cool. It makes sense. Buddha, Christ, whomever,

00:31:13.430 --> 00:31:15.269
they're all just different. manifestations of

00:31:15.269 --> 00:31:17.369
God. And there couldn't be anything further from

00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:19.750
the truth, especially if you read the Bible and

00:31:19.750 --> 00:31:22.670
see what God says. God says, I am a jealous God.

00:31:22.789 --> 00:31:24.289
And there's only one way to heaven is through

00:31:24.289 --> 00:31:27.490
Christ. So, man, there's just a list of key ascended

00:31:27.490 --> 00:31:30.529
masters I might even go over. They also have

00:31:30.529 --> 00:31:33.869
core cosmology, the famous chart your life, chart

00:31:33.869 --> 00:31:35.569
your divine self. I'm not even going to look

00:31:35.569 --> 00:31:38.759
at it because I don't need to. plague my mind

00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.539
with such silliness. And then there's the whole

00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:43.039
concept of the violet consuming flame, the heart

00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.779
of the practice, quote unquote, the purpose transmutates,

00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.220
quote unquote, burns away negative karma, discord,

00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:50.839
and human misqualification from past and present

00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.039
lives. So let's learn something new. So they

00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.579
believe in past lives, which again, not biblical.

00:31:55.940 --> 00:31:58.859
And they visualize a blazing violet fire with

00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:01.440
electric blue core surrounding the body. And

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.960
there's some decrees, chants, I'm not going to

00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.579
read them. And they believe in the spoken word

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:09.230
of creative power. So, I don't even want to bore

00:32:09.230 --> 00:32:11.650
our audience with the other ten principles they

00:32:11.650 --> 00:32:13.609
have, but you can see pretty quick that this

00:32:13.609 --> 00:32:16.289
is very occult, very new age. Yeah, what I liked,

00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:18.650
and when I say like, I mean it ironically, was

00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:21.630
Ballard's revelation. That divine spark within

00:32:21.630 --> 00:32:23.930
every human could be awakened through decrees

00:32:23.930 --> 00:32:26.849
and violent flame rituals. And it spread fast.

00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:29.529
What we saw was in the late 1930s, thousands

00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:32.089
were chanting invocations to the masters in hotel

00:32:32.089 --> 00:32:34.849
ballrooms and on mountain meadows. And the Ballard's

00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:37.740
organization, the St. Germain family, still existed.

00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.500
Its temples dotted small towns across America.

00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:43.039
And each August, a pageant filled the Forest

00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.279
Amphitheater at Shasta Springs with music, banners,

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.500
and violent light. Visitors described the spectacle

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:52.359
as half revival, half opera. One former attendee

00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.319
remembers standing in a circle at dawn as hundreds

00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.759
of voices chanted, I am the light of the world.

00:32:57.859 --> 00:33:00.059
And the sound rolled down the slope and seemed

00:33:00.059 --> 00:33:02.839
to bounce back from the peak and speak to them.

00:33:02.859 --> 00:33:04.940
And for a moment, she said, it felt like the

00:33:04.940 --> 00:33:06.579
mountain was answering her. Others found the

00:33:06.579 --> 00:33:08.680
experience unsettling. Strict schedules, rules

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.480
against doubt, talk of total devotion to their

00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.579
supreme masters. The Ballard's 1940s mail fraud

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:16.940
trial only heightened the movement's secrecy.

00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:19.240
Outsiders called it a cult, much like I do, and

00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.920
insiders called it proof of persecution. In the

00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.599
decades that followed, Shasta became a magna

00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.500
for new iterations of that same hunger. Groups

00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:30.299
with names like the Summit Lighthouse and Church

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.640
Universal and Triumphant set up conclés near

00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.240
Lake Sissacue, blending the IM's fiery patriotism

00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.900
with a gentler new age mysticism. Every few years,

00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.339
new light families arrived. Temporary communes

00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:47.380
promising ascension through diet, chanting, or

00:33:47.380 --> 00:33:49.720
crystal therapy. One former participant recalled

00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.079
being told to surrender her phone for a three

00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.099
-day activation. We sang until we forget the

00:33:55.099 --> 00:33:57.599
time, she said. At first it felt like a release

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.799
and then it felt like control. Locals see the

00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.900
pattern clearly. Each new wave arrives beneath

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:06.609
the same clouds. like leaders, strict controls,

00:34:06.769 --> 00:34:09.530
barred by Wintu terminology, and a story that

00:34:09.530 --> 00:34:11.510
always begins with a revelation on the mountain.

00:34:11.710 --> 00:34:14.250
Residents really have grown wary, but rarely

00:34:14.250 --> 00:34:17.230
hostile. As one shopkeeper put it, they come

00:34:17.230 --> 00:34:19.730
looking for God, but they keep finding each other.

00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:22.690
Modern testimonies online still capture the mountain's

00:34:22.690 --> 00:34:25.150
pull. I cried so much, I felt I was releasing

00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:27.929
a lifetime of trauma. One tourist wrote in her

00:34:27.929 --> 00:34:30.769
like vortex tour. Then I was filled with so much

00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:32.949
love, I didn't think my body could hold it all

00:34:32.949 --> 00:34:35.389
in. The other described her post -retreat glow.

00:34:35.630 --> 00:34:37.150
After the retreat, I was filled with so much

00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:39.309
joy and gratitude, I finally brought back my

00:34:39.309 --> 00:34:41.929
home to my true soul essence here in Mount Shasta.

00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:44.750
And this language repeats across websites and

00:34:44.750 --> 00:34:47.309
flyers and this kind of soft rhythm of awakening

00:34:47.309 --> 00:34:49.869
and purification and homecoming. Yet I think

00:34:49.869 --> 00:34:52.530
beneath the serenity lies the same structure

00:34:52.530 --> 00:34:54.789
that once made the I am activity a lightning

00:34:54.789 --> 00:34:57.170
rod. Charismatic leaders, isolation from the

00:34:57.170 --> 00:35:00.190
outside world and the mountain as unquestionable

00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:02.650
authority. A few locals that I saw whispered

00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.079
about a modern off -grid communities renting

00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.860
cabins for 1111 activations. The same night's

00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:11.599
UFO hunters stake out the ridge line. One neighbor

00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:15.420
recalls seeing a procession of white robed figures

00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.719
walking towards Panther Meadow with torches.

00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:20.639
He said they look like ghost out of old pageants,

00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.420
just quieter. From the indigenous Wintu elders,

00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.579
all of this attention cuts both ways. Panther

00:35:26.579 --> 00:35:29.340
Meadow, portal meadow to the mystics remains

00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:32.739
their most sacred site at birth pace of People

00:35:32.739 --> 00:35:35.739
come to heal, they said, but they don't ask who

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:37.940
the mountain already belongs to. To her, the

00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:40.239
real ceremony is the one that's been held there

00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.820
for a millennia, not the one advertised on glossy

00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:46.239
posters and promising ascension to a higher authority.

00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:48.159
Now, I think what we see is today Mount Shatsa

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:50.820
is both a shrine and a stage, a quiet volcano

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:54.219
with a very busy imagination, a natural wonder

00:35:54.219 --> 00:35:57.320
layered with human longing. Its slopes host yoga

00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.139
mats and these violent flames. Its caves echo

00:36:00.139 --> 00:36:03.219
with chance. and its skies fill with drones filming

00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:06.599
these clouds mistaken for ships. But from Ballard's

00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.820
first I am decree to that modern star seat activation,

00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.280
every group that gathers here believes the same

00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.019
thing, that the mountain is awake and that it

00:36:14.019 --> 00:36:16.280
is listening. Now, it seems like pageantry to

00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:17.980
me. People want to believe in something and that

00:36:17.980 --> 00:36:20.260
faith is misplaced. I always think it takes a

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:22.360
lot more faith to be an atheist or to believe

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.920
in the Big Bang because you're just believing

00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.679
in one miracle. It's a lot easier to believe

00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.360
that we had a Christ that died for our sins and

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.019
conquered the grave. To me, it's just easier.

00:36:30.250 --> 00:36:32.809
all the benefits and I have none of the bad outcomes

00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:34.369
that are already on your plate. But when you

00:36:34.369 --> 00:36:37.530
refuse to believe in the truth, you body your

00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:40.150
soul. Crave somewhere to put that. And I think

00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:42.210
sometimes people misrepresent that. They're putting

00:36:42.210 --> 00:36:44.110
their hope into something that is false and it's

00:36:44.110 --> 00:36:45.809
going to destroy them. And it's not going to

00:36:45.809 --> 00:36:48.230
give them the ability to conquer the grave through

00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:50.769
a perfect savior. So I think it's misplaced hope,

00:36:50.789 --> 00:36:52.789
what it ultimately boils down to, but a weird

00:36:52.789 --> 00:36:54.409
thing to believe it, man. I find it a little

00:36:54.409 --> 00:36:56.030
bit shady, but there are some interesting stories

00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:57.769
coming out of there. So, you know, you said that

00:36:57.769 --> 00:37:02.409
term 1111, and that's a very new age, occult

00:37:02.409 --> 00:37:06.389
time. And so essentially what it means, so many

00:37:06.389 --> 00:37:09.659
modern day occult. this interpret scene 11 11

00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:12.380
repeatedly is synchronicity. It's a message from

00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:15.219
the universe, guardian spirits, or one's higher

00:37:15.219 --> 00:37:18.639
self to wake up. And it's also related to manifestation

00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:20.960
portals. So again, we go back to this, I know

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.760
we're talking about on the cult organization,

00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.699
so it shouldn't be a surprise that they use these

00:37:24.699 --> 00:37:27.920
numbers and it's also an angelic number. So an

00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.599
angelic numerology popularized by Doreen virtue

00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.000
and later mystics 11 11 said to mean your thoughts

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.519
are manifesting rapidly. So these people are

00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.519
heavily involved into the occult manifestation.

00:37:40.780 --> 00:37:43.019
And I know we talked earlier about this kind

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:45.440
of infiltrating the church and we can do a different

00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.719
episode on that, but I guess you would call them

00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.619
more modern ogens and authors use that kind of

00:37:52.619 --> 00:37:55.679
new agey occult. manifestation and they tried

00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:57.900
to branch into Christianity. Like I said before,

00:37:58.039 --> 00:37:59.940
it's like the prosperity church, the power of

00:37:59.940 --> 00:38:03.300
positive thinking. So this has weaseled its way

00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:05.940
into modern day Christianity in some form or

00:38:05.940 --> 00:38:07.880
fashion. And it's, unfortunately for the people

00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.559
who believe it, it's not a biblical tea. That

00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:10.920
kind of reminds me of the prosperity gospel.

00:38:11.059 --> 00:38:12.780
God's only here to do amazing things for you

00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:13.980
and make you super wealthy and have a private

00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:15.920
house. Yeah, like forget heaven. You can get

00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.480
it all here. Like, you want some money? Just

00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.579
donate to my church, listen to my message, buy

00:38:20.579 --> 00:38:22.639
my books, and you're all set. And then people,

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.260
when the people do it, and it doesn't work for

00:38:24.260 --> 00:38:26.659
99 .9 % of the people, they lose faith in God.

00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.900
And it's because they're coming at it with the

00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:31.599
wrong intention, the wrong heart space. And it's

00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.599
just sad, man, because of the wolves in sheep's

00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.340
clothing, man. They walk these people down the

00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:37.639
wrong path, and they lose faith, and judgment's

00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.510
gonna be harsh for them. Yeah, a hundred percent.

00:38:39.670 --> 00:38:42.829
When we're talking about these more modern stories

00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:45.150
connected in Manchester, I got to tell my favorite

00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:47.949
one. So have you heard of the robot grandma and

00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:49.789
the flashing cage? Yeah, I know a little bit

00:38:49.789 --> 00:38:51.489
about it, but please tell me. I want to hear

00:38:51.489 --> 00:38:54.449
your edition. So it began as a missing child

00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:57.329
alert in the summer of 2011. Another brief panic

00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.789
in the forest around McLeod Falls. A three -year

00:38:59.789 --> 00:39:01.889
-old boy wandered away from his family's cap

00:39:01.889 --> 00:39:04.369
site, vanishing into the woods for several hours.

00:39:04.469 --> 00:39:06.369
I'm thinking about my son. He's right around

00:39:06.369 --> 00:39:08.860
that age and vanishing. my heart would break.

00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:10.559
I would be in a panic. I'd probably die of a

00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:11.719
heart attack wherever I found them, because I'd

00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.320
be so scared. But anyways, when searchers finally

00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.539
found him near dusk, unharmed but dazed, his

00:39:17.539 --> 00:39:20.619
story was something no ranger could have scripted.

00:39:20.659 --> 00:39:23.039
He said his grandmother had found him, only it

00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.480
wasn't really her. She looked the same, but moved

00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.239
strangely, stiffly, like a puppet learning to

00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.980
walk. She led him by the hand through the trees

00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:33.679
into a cave where the air blinked with lights

00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.099
that came out of the walls. Inside she asked

00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:39.340
him to lie on a made of stone and began checking

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:41.739
him, touching his head, his legs, and asking

00:39:41.739 --> 00:39:44.739
him really odd questions in a flat voice. He

00:39:44.739 --> 00:39:47.500
then fell asleep on this stone and woke up outside

00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:49.940
by the creek. Sunlight in his eyes and the cave

00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:52.400
completely gone. When his family heard the story,

00:39:52.619 --> 00:39:55.219
confusion really gave way to this uneasy feeling.

00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.420
The grandmother, he described, had never left

00:39:57.420 --> 00:39:59.239
camp. She stayed there. The incident spread through

00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.780
online forums, folded into the missing 411 lore

00:40:01.780 --> 00:40:04.340
and late night podcasts. Some said the boy was

00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:07.730
taken into Tellios for testing. that he had wandered

00:40:07.730 --> 00:40:10.710
into a shapeshifters den. The robot grandma became

00:40:10.710 --> 00:40:13.510
shorthand for a darker side of Shasta's portals.

00:40:13.530 --> 00:40:16.150
An intelligence that mimics what we love most

00:40:16.150 --> 00:40:19.130
to draw us deeper underground and into this story.

00:40:19.230 --> 00:40:21.289
To me, it sounds kind of like a demon. It seems

00:40:21.289 --> 00:40:23.489
weird that she's touching this kid. Perhaps she

00:40:23.489 --> 00:40:25.610
thought he was injured or perhaps it was a kid

00:40:25.610 --> 00:40:28.349
that fell asleep with, had a crazy nightmare

00:40:28.349 --> 00:40:30.170
that he thought was real. Sometimes my kid has

00:40:30.170 --> 00:40:31.650
dreams and he wakes up in a panic and he thinks

00:40:31.650 --> 00:40:33.869
they're real. So I could see that occurring as

00:40:33.869 --> 00:40:36.750
well. But to me, that's just a Super interesting

00:40:36.750 --> 00:40:39.429
story to frame it around 2011. Yeah, that is

00:40:39.429 --> 00:40:42.269
an interesting story Sometimes I wonder he was

00:40:42.269 --> 00:40:45.230
three so I don't know of many three -year -olds

00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:47.969
who can communicate all that well or tell grandiose

00:40:47.969 --> 00:40:50.610
stories. So I'm wondering if whoever he told

00:40:50.610 --> 00:40:52.869
this story to blew it up a portion. Maybe he

00:40:52.869 --> 00:40:54.989
doesn't even know what a robot is. A three, I

00:40:54.989 --> 00:40:57.130
don't know. It just seems unlikely you would

00:40:57.130 --> 00:41:00.269
get this somewhat detailed story from a three

00:41:00.269 --> 00:41:02.269
-year -old kid who was, how long was he missing

00:41:02.269 --> 00:41:04.369
for again? Did you say? Basically like a night.

00:41:04.550 --> 00:41:07.889
He wandered away from camp and he was discovered

00:41:07.889 --> 00:41:10.230
around dusk. Yeah. And you know how kids are.

00:41:10.230 --> 00:41:11.730
You know how we were when we were kids. You have

00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:14.010
these fantastic imaginations. At three, you probably

00:41:14.010 --> 00:41:15.869
don't know if he did anything wrong by wandering

00:41:15.869 --> 00:41:17.530
away. You just know mom and dad are freaked out

00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:20.010
when they find you. And it almost sounds like

00:41:20.010 --> 00:41:22.449
the kid got lost. They found him. They were freaked

00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:24.269
out. He didn't really know what to tell them.

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:26.250
So he made up probably a story based off the

00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:29.050
last cartoon he watched. I just throw that out

00:41:29.050 --> 00:41:31.530
pretty quick. I can't tell you, my son loves

00:41:31.530 --> 00:41:33.829
robots and he's three. He actually dressed up

00:41:33.829 --> 00:41:36.349
as a robot for Halloween just this past weekend.

00:41:36.530 --> 00:41:38.869
But could he tell a story like this? I imagine

00:41:38.869 --> 00:41:41.050
he could. All right, maybe perhaps he's worried

00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:42.909
he's going to get in trouble so he missed. Brexit

00:41:42.909 --> 00:41:45.210
and tells a tall tale and maybe gets him out

00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:47.489
of trouble. So I could see it, but it also could

00:41:47.489 --> 00:41:49.949
be something deeper and far more scary that there

00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:52.130
is a demon or there's something else that's percolating

00:41:52.130 --> 00:41:53.989
in the background. Cause I can tell you, my kid

00:41:53.989 --> 00:41:56.190
communicates pretty well at three. He's able

00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:58.150
to tell stories. He's able to tell me what he

00:41:58.150 --> 00:42:00.050
saw, what he did for the day, all those kinds

00:42:00.050 --> 00:42:03.010
of things. So there is a probably less likely,

00:42:03.110 --> 00:42:06.110
but also. a darker possibility that's associated

00:42:06.110 --> 00:42:07.769
with it. Yeah, but I'm trying to think in the

00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:10.090
past, I don't know of any stories, correct me

00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:12.150
if I'm wrong audience, please, but I don't know

00:42:12.150 --> 00:42:15.269
of any stories where children are, I kind of

00:42:15.269 --> 00:42:18.940
want to say kidnapped. but presented to by demons.

00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.719
I think the only ones that have happened are

00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.199
kids that are being sacrificed to idols thousands

00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.760
of years ago. But that's because someone, i .e.

00:42:28.780 --> 00:42:30.340
their parents, are taking them to the altar to

00:42:30.340 --> 00:42:32.679
be sacrificed. I just don't know if demons particularly

00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:34.420
mess with kids. I'm not saying kids can't see

00:42:34.420 --> 00:42:37.079
stuff. I just don't know if they're messed with.

00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:39.820
I don't necessarily believe that they're allowed

00:42:39.820 --> 00:42:42.559
to be messed with at that age. Possible. I don't

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.300
know. I feel like kids are closer to God because

00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:47.369
God has a a special place in his heart for them.

00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:49.710
And if he does, then I think the devil's kind

00:42:49.710 --> 00:42:51.369
of working on the counterpoint, trying to lead

00:42:51.369 --> 00:42:53.570
them astray before they establish that relationship.

00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:55.630
Yeah, but I just, I don't know. I'll have to

00:42:55.630 --> 00:42:57.050
do some research on that. I just, I don't know

00:42:57.050 --> 00:42:59.440
of any stories about. anyone under the age of

00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.139
12 really being possessed or maybe they act weird

00:43:02.139 --> 00:43:04.239
or maybe they have some sort of mental illness

00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.500
or something. But I just don't know of any like

00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.340
verified stories about being kidnapped by spirits

00:43:09.340 --> 00:43:12.300
or being manifested to by spirits or being possessed

00:43:12.300 --> 00:43:15.179
by demons. Yeah, it's a super interesting place

00:43:15.179 --> 00:43:17.079
because as we're obviously talking a lot about

00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.119
the I am movement and the conspiracies connected

00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.900
to that. But I think beneath the mysticism runs

00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:27.380
a colder rumor that Mount Shasta hides not only

00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:30.480
the Lemurians, but laboratories. Conspiracy theorists

00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.699
map the area as home to what they say is D -U

00:43:33.699 --> 00:43:36.099
-M -B, or dumb. The deep underground military

00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:38.340
base barreled into the mountain's core. They

00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:40.659
speak of an elevator shaft disguised as vents

00:43:40.659 --> 00:43:44.000
of camouflage, hangars hidden in glacier crevices

00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.579
of humming heard through the rock on quiet nights.

00:43:46.699 --> 00:43:49.659
In this version, the mountain's orbs and strange

00:43:49.659 --> 00:43:52.059
lights aren't spiritual at all. They're actually

00:43:52.059 --> 00:43:54.519
experimental aircraft, reverse engineered from

00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.239
recovered technology. Local accounts describe

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.219
convoys of unmarked trucks entering four service

00:44:00.219 --> 00:44:03.219
roads at odd hours or the distant thump of machinery,

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.960
which, you know, should only be silence. The

00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.639
legend folds neatly into the broader myth of

00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.260
Shasta's underground. Telios, for the mystics,

00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.059
dumb for the paranoids, two language for the

00:44:14.059 --> 00:44:16.400
same unease, and that something enormous and

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.519
secret moves beneath our feet. Perhaps the boy

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.539
was talking about a creature, perhaps he made

00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:25.519
up a story, or perhaps he ran into one of these

00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.929
underground tunnels and maybe met a government

00:44:27.929 --> 00:44:29.769
guy that was just trying to make sure he was

00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:32.190
okay and make his way home. And the story got

00:44:32.190 --> 00:44:34.670
twisted. I guess it's a possibility. I know you've

00:44:34.670 --> 00:44:37.710
referenced David Polides, his missing 411. And

00:44:37.710 --> 00:44:41.469
I think one of the theories, and it's not proven,

00:44:41.789 --> 00:44:45.269
it's just speculation, is that these areas that

00:44:45.269 --> 00:44:47.550
have a cluster of missing people, usually it

00:44:47.550 --> 00:44:49.469
happens out in nature, someplace like Mount Shasta

00:44:49.469 --> 00:44:53.130
or somewhere in some forest. And one of the theories

00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:56.460
is that It coincides with like the deep underground

00:44:56.460 --> 00:44:59.139
military bases that people wander into these

00:44:59.139 --> 00:45:02.159
areas and they're just taking a release. I assume

00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.340
the conclusion is that they're just killed and

00:45:04.340 --> 00:45:06.559
that way they can't share the knowledge of this.

00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.559
So if we believe that route then, or if anyone

00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:10.900
believes that route, I guess that could be a

00:45:10.900 --> 00:45:12.360
pretty good explanation. Maybe they didn't have

00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.320
it in their heart to do anything bad to a three

00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.179
-year -old kid and knowing that he's three years

00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:18.000
old, if they just put him back out, like no one's

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.380
going to believe what he says anyways. Yeah.

00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.760
But so Mount Shasta is a volcano. And so there

00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.900
are like, there are tunnels that are like old

00:45:26.900 --> 00:45:28.860
lava flow tunnels. For someone to say they walked

00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:31.579
into a tunnel that was miles deep, it's not out

00:45:31.579 --> 00:45:33.780
of the question. It's frankly, probably a good

00:45:33.780 --> 00:45:35.400
possibility that if somebody found one of these

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:36.719
tunnels, they probably could walk through it

00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.420
for miles and miles. Mount Shasta is big and

00:45:39.420 --> 00:45:41.860
as nature does its thing, it's carving out these

00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:44.119
tunnels just naturally. Yeah. In my research,

00:45:44.179 --> 00:45:46.480
what I found was some people said the mountain

00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.440
hums because something's down there is running.

00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.400
The rumor of a dumb or a deep underground military.

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.320
buried inside the volcano itself, and the labyrinth

00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.360
of tunnels, freight elevators, and cold laboratories

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.219
hidden beneath the snow. What I saw was truckers

00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:03.920
talk about unmarked convoys slipping into the

00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.619
forest roads at night, hikers telling of metallic

00:46:06.619 --> 00:46:09.500
vibrations underfoot and lights flickering behind

00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:12.539
the tree lines where no roads exist. Some even

00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:14.820
claim to have seen disguised vents releasing

00:46:14.820 --> 00:46:18.280
mist that isn't steam or the faint pulse of radar

00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.260
where no towers stand. My research says the U

00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:23.889
.S. government or some older, quieter power has

00:46:23.889 --> 00:46:25.949
been conducting experiments under Shasta for

00:46:25.949 --> 00:46:28.170
decades, weather control, dimensional travel,

00:46:28.309 --> 00:46:30.550
or genetic engineering. Now, we've seen a lot

00:46:30.550 --> 00:46:33.230
of television documentaries and late night radio

00:46:33.230 --> 00:46:35.670
specials revisit this story every few years,

00:46:35.849 --> 00:46:37.690
looping the same drone footage over whispers

00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:40.269
of secrecy, and scientists ultimately dismiss

00:46:40.269 --> 00:46:42.809
it. Of course, just geothermal labs, nothing

00:46:42.809 --> 00:46:44.969
more. But in the towns that circle the mountain,

00:46:45.010 --> 00:46:47.389
people still swear they can feel the machinery

00:46:47.389 --> 00:46:49.929
humming far below like the breath of a giant

00:46:49.929 --> 00:46:52.449
that never quite went to sleep. So there are

00:46:52.449 --> 00:46:54.909
a lot of people talking about government facilities

00:46:54.909 --> 00:46:57.530
down there. And one of the biggest things that

00:46:57.530 --> 00:46:59.869
they talk about with Mount Shasta is sightings

00:46:59.869 --> 00:47:02.010
of UFOs. Do you know any good stories about the

00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:04.769
UFOs and Mount Shasta? I do, but I want to talk

00:47:04.769 --> 00:47:06.769
about this deep underground military base thing.

00:47:06.889 --> 00:47:09.710
So this is pretty interesting. So a leaked 1980s

00:47:09.710 --> 00:47:13.710
map of 129 dumps listed Shasta as number three.

00:47:13.789 --> 00:47:16.289
And the claim was that it's connected via high

00:47:16.289 --> 00:47:19.230
speed maglev tunnels to bases like China Lake

00:47:19.230 --> 00:47:22.519
and 29. Homs, which is a marine base. These tunnels

00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.579
allegedly span 1 .5 to 3 miles deep, powered

00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:29.400
by geothermal vents or Shasta Lakes Dam. This

00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.059
leaked 1980s map claims that the Shasta base

00:47:33.059 --> 00:47:36.719
is 42 levels deep, housing 20 ,000 plus personnel.

00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.059
It even has livestock, apparently, in the tech

00:47:39.059 --> 00:47:41.320
labs. The entrances are hidden near lava tubes,

00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:44.559
like we talked about, near Flume Creek or Panther

00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.320
Meadows. So Shasta's deep underground bases are

00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.760
often portrayed as multifunctional. They blend

00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.780
military operations with occult horror. And here's

00:47:52.780 --> 00:47:55.320
a breakdown. So one of the theories is it's a

00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.079
mind control hub from the monarch program. So

00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.760
a brief description, the base broadcast holographic

00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.940
alien communications. Here we go back to Bluebeam

00:48:03.940 --> 00:48:07.360
to induce mass delusions, reprogramming CIA MK

00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.880
ultra monarch slaves. So essentially. The claim

00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.420
is that these slaves or trafficked victims turned

00:48:13.420 --> 00:48:16.519
to assassins. Captives arrived via black helicopter

00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:18.980
or flying saucers. This gets really fantastical

00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:20.639
just to warn everybody, but it's fun to think

00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.320
about. And the facilities include torture chambers

00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.639
with high tech VR gear. This kind of came from

00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.460
Kathy O 'Brien's Transformation of America back

00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:31.239
in 1995. And that describes the largest mind

00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.860
control center in the country. There's also a

00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:37.079
claim of ET collaboration and trafficking. And

00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.199
we'll have to do a deep dive on Phil Schneider.

00:48:39.690 --> 00:48:41.409
want to ask you if you heard about him, but he's

00:48:41.409 --> 00:48:43.510
got some pretty fantastic claims, but he's dead

00:48:43.510 --> 00:48:46.050
now under very mysterious circumstances. But

00:48:46.050 --> 00:48:48.650
the claim from Phil was that these underground

00:48:48.650 --> 00:48:51.929
labs host gray reptilians for hybrid experiments

00:48:51.929 --> 00:48:54.510
and they traffic children and are harvesting

00:48:54.510 --> 00:48:58.250
adrenochrome for slave labor. So again, the fantastical.

00:49:00.750 --> 00:49:03.550
Even to a certain extent, like almost unbelievable.

00:49:03.849 --> 00:49:06.030
It's also claimed that it's a doomsday tech bunker

00:49:06.030 --> 00:49:08.789
for elite survival. It's an elite survival wall

00:49:08.789 --> 00:49:11.909
with aerospace, R &D, specifically anti -gravity

00:49:11.909 --> 00:49:15.690
craft and bio weapons labs, which I would believe

00:49:15.690 --> 00:49:18.409
that out of all these theories so far. And then

00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:22.050
it's, this is probably if not the most fantastical,

00:49:22.090 --> 00:49:25.250
very close. It's a antianlumerian prison. This

00:49:25.250 --> 00:49:29.210
kind of theory merged with Shasta's myths. Atlanteans,

00:49:29.369 --> 00:49:32.829
sealed Lumerians, and pleasure palaces, and the

00:49:32.829 --> 00:49:35.190
dumb overlords exploit this for psychic tech.

00:49:35.469 --> 00:49:37.789
And I am not being tongue in cheek when I say

00:49:37.789 --> 00:49:42.960
dumb, because it's pretty dumb. I don't know,

00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:44.820
I'm getting locked up in a pleasure palace. It

00:49:44.820 --> 00:49:46.719
doesn't even make sense. Are you going to put

00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.900
someone in an awesome prison? Like, I don't get

00:49:48.900 --> 00:49:50.440
it. Yeah. One of the things you mentioned was

00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.440
the reptilian bases at the base of the volcano.

00:49:53.739 --> 00:49:55.639
Obviously a lot of us hear about, there is a

00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:57.539
conspiracy theory going on out there that I think

00:49:57.539 --> 00:50:00.579
is quite wild where, you know, a lot of the government

00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:03.679
figures are actually reptilian and they do really

00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:05.940
bad things to children and stuff. But I think

00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:08.360
as we trace it back, right, deep beneath the

00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.320
glacier fields of Mount Shasta, supposedly, other

00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.099
race stirs, the reptilians. In this chapter of

00:50:15.099 --> 00:50:17.880
the lore, Shasta isn't just home to the Lemurians

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.500
or the Atlanteans, but to an entirely separate

00:50:20.500 --> 00:50:24.239
species of scaled subterranean beings. Some versions

00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.340
call them the ancient earthlings, descendant

00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.239
of dinosaurs who evolved into intelligence and

00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.460
retreated underground after the planet's last

00:50:31.460 --> 00:50:34.219
great extinction. Others say they've off -world

00:50:34.219 --> 00:50:36.920
colonies who arrived eons ago, tunneling beneath

00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.739
volcanoes to harvest geothermal energy. They're

00:50:39.739 --> 00:50:43.039
described as tall. cold -eyed, and telepathic,

00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:46.360
moving through heat -proof tunnels lit by bioluminescent

00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.340
fungi. Conspiracy theories map their layers alongside

00:50:49.340 --> 00:50:52.519
military bases, suggesting covert alliances between

00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.639
governments and the reptilian overlords. In this

00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.400
web, Shasta becomes this junction of Lemurian

00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.679
light above, reptilian shadow below. The two

00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.300
civilizations coexist uneasily. Ancient rivals

00:51:05.300 --> 00:51:07.380
sharing the same mountain, each guarding its

00:51:07.380 --> 00:51:10.380
secrets. And every few years, hikers report a

00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:13.699
metallic smell or a flash of greenish light deep

00:51:13.699 --> 00:51:16.340
in the crevices. Now to scientists, it's sulfur

00:51:16.340 --> 00:51:18.980
gas. And to believers, it's something far older.

00:51:19.179 --> 00:51:21.300
Proof that the mountain's cold heart is still

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:23.699
beating with those of its first inhabitants.

00:51:24.179 --> 00:51:26.139
And some people tie some of the disappearances,

00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:28.559
which we'll have to talk about to these Bigfoot

00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.659
stories. Yeah, that's interesting. So we have

00:51:30.659 --> 00:51:33.320
Bigfoot, which we've seen countless places across.

00:51:33.610 --> 00:51:36.269
We have giants, we have Lemurians, and even before

00:51:36.269 --> 00:51:39.690
the UFOs and before the talk of the lost continents,

00:51:39.969 --> 00:51:42.469
the tribes of Northern California already told

00:51:42.469 --> 00:51:46.360
stories about the wagas, the little people. the

00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.900
star folk, the watchers who live between worlds.

00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.239
Among the Wintu, the Kirkku, and the Shasta tribes,

00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.099
these beings were neither ghosts nor gods, but

00:51:55.099 --> 00:51:57.519
something in between. Small, luminous figures

00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.579
who emerged at night from stones or mist, bringing

00:52:00.579 --> 00:52:02.639
knowledge from the stars. Some tales describe

00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.699
them as ancestors, others as travelers who came

00:52:05.699 --> 00:52:08.659
down on beams of light to teach songs or survival

00:52:08.659 --> 00:52:10.980
skills and then returned to the heavens. Modern

00:52:10.980 --> 00:52:13.460
mystics have folded these stories into Shasta's

00:52:13.460 --> 00:52:16.260
cosmic mythology, the Walgas. are now cast as

00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:19.360
pre -Lamarian beings, guardians who keep the

00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.900
gates of the mountain before Telios was even

00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:24.320
imagined. In this retelling, they are the caretakers

00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.820
of the portals, an invisible but ever -present,

00:52:26.980 --> 00:52:29.219
protecting the delicate balance between our world

00:52:29.219 --> 00:52:31.360
and whatever lies beneath. Campers sometimes

00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.699
report feeling watched on the slopes, glimpses,

00:52:33.780 --> 00:52:36.219
flashes of pale figures darting between the rocks,

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.360
and some call them spirits, and others call them

00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.840
the first witnesses to everything that came after.

00:52:41.019 --> 00:52:43.820
So we have sightings of very tall people and

00:52:43.820 --> 00:52:46.769
very short people. and giants and discovery of

00:52:46.769 --> 00:52:48.969
skeletons. And I think we even talked about the

00:52:48.969 --> 00:52:50.929
Starfolk in the Grand Canyon episode when we

00:52:50.929 --> 00:52:52.989
were going down that trial. And they say through

00:52:52.989 --> 00:52:55.409
the ley line that the Grand Canyon to Mount Shasta

00:52:55.409 --> 00:52:57.969
is connected. So perhaps we have some connective

00:52:57.969 --> 00:53:00.130
tissue there. Yeah, man. So I think this is a

00:53:00.130 --> 00:53:02.750
good transition into the missing people stories.

00:53:02.849 --> 00:53:04.929
So we can talk about Carl Landers a bit. If you

00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:06.610
want to take that or I can take that. It's up

00:53:06.610 --> 00:53:09.909
to you. Not good. Yeah. So Carl Landers was born

00:53:09.909 --> 00:53:12.889
in December 29th, 1929. He was a fit adventurous

00:53:12.889 --> 00:53:15.909
retiree. a former school board member. He was

00:53:15.909 --> 00:53:18.050
an avid outdoorsman. He was a marathon runner,

00:53:18.210 --> 00:53:20.690
a technical climber, and a peak bagger aiming

00:53:20.690 --> 00:53:22.889
to summit the highest point in every California

00:53:22.889 --> 00:53:26.730
County. So this guy was fairly experienced with

00:53:26.730 --> 00:53:29.050
climbing mountains and he was obviously very

00:53:29.050 --> 00:53:31.849
fit. He was a bit older when he disappeared.

00:53:31.969 --> 00:53:35.010
I think he was 69 when he disappeared. So on

00:53:35.010 --> 00:53:38.030
May 21st, 1999, he arrived in the area with two

00:53:38.030 --> 00:53:40.409
lifelong climbing buddies, Barry Gilmore and

00:53:40.409 --> 00:53:43.719
Milton Gaines, both from Oren. They stayed at

00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.860
a motel in Mount Shasta City and they drove to

00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:50.239
the trailhead at Bunny Flat, which is an elevation

00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.840
of 8 ,100 feet. So you can do the math there.

00:53:53.059 --> 00:53:55.159
There's about another 6 ,000 plus feet they had

00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.440
to get to the summit. So outline the timeline

00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:59.599
of his disappearance. So the events unfolded

00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.679
pretty rapidly on a clear calm morning, which

00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.239
kind of made the Vanishing a little bit more

00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.000
inexplicable. So on May 21st through May 24th,

00:54:07.059 --> 00:54:09.340
the group acclimates at the motel. No issues

00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:12.159
reported. They hike to camp one near Helen Lake

00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.159
and an elevation of 10 ,400 feet instead of base.

00:54:15.380 --> 00:54:18.320
So on May 25th at camp, Carl complains of feeling

00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.760
poorly. It probably was altitude sickness, which

00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.699
is not uncommon at that elevation. So he decides

00:54:24.699 --> 00:54:28.400
to push ahead alone. to a flat bare spot on Helen

00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.659
Lake about 900 to a thousand feet uphill from

00:54:31.659 --> 00:54:34.320
camp to rest in. catch his breath. So he's last

00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.780
seen a full view wearing a rust colored jacket,

00:54:36.980 --> 00:54:39.780
ski pants, hiking boots, and crampons, gloves,

00:54:39.980 --> 00:54:42.159
and a backpack with food, water, and gear. And

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.719
he didn't really show any signs of distress.

00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.079
And that was around 9 a .m. So between 930 and

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.360
10, Barry and Mitt finished packing and follow

00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.019
the same trail. Visibility is good. The path

00:54:52.019 --> 00:54:54.579
is well marked, open snow field with no cliffs,

00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.300
no dense woods, and no hiding spots. So at 10

00:54:58.300 --> 00:55:00.940
a .m. his partners reach Helen Lake. Carl is

00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:02.889
gone. They can't find any foot prints, gears,

00:55:03.030 --> 00:55:05.929
or tracks in the fresh snow. So they start searching

00:55:05.929 --> 00:55:08.849
and they can't really find anything. The partners

00:55:08.849 --> 00:55:11.130
hike the entire route that day, summoning and

00:55:11.130 --> 00:55:13.730
descending, calling for Carl en route. They reported

00:55:13.730 --> 00:55:15.829
him missing upon returning to the trailhead around

00:55:15.829 --> 00:55:18.750
6 PM. So this time the Shasta County Sheriff's

00:55:18.750 --> 00:55:21.210
Office gets involved and they launch a massive

00:55:21.210 --> 00:55:24.190
operation on May 26th, coordinated by the U .S.

00:55:24.289 --> 00:55:26.750
Forest Service and the county search and rescue.

00:55:26.889 --> 00:55:28.909
So this is a pretty big effort. Over a hundred

00:55:28.909 --> 00:55:30.969
personnel, including helicopters with thermal

00:55:30.969 --> 00:55:33.550
imaging, ground teams, cadaver dogs, and climbers

00:55:33.550 --> 00:55:36.170
covered 12 plus square miles, including the crevices,

00:55:36.329 --> 00:55:38.690
gullies, and off trail areas. Veteran rescuer,

00:55:38.730 --> 00:55:41.650
Gri Adams, who had 20 plus years on Shasta led

00:55:41.650 --> 00:55:43.710
all the efforts probing the lakes and caves.

00:55:44.269 --> 00:55:47.369
So this search lasted 10 days. with intermittent

00:55:47.369 --> 00:55:50.210
sweeps through the summer of 1999 and spot checks

00:55:50.210 --> 00:55:53.610
into the 2000s. So there was a pretty big recovery

00:55:53.610 --> 00:55:55.909
effort to try to find this fella and they didn't

00:55:55.909 --> 00:55:58.789
find anything. No clothes, no backpack, no body,

00:55:59.150 --> 00:56:01.590
obviously. And Carl's car remained at the trailhead.

00:56:01.769 --> 00:56:04.710
So he didn't go back. He didn't. pop into his

00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:07.289
car and didn't roll out. The case went cold and

00:56:07.289 --> 00:56:09.849
reclassified as a missing person by the Department

00:56:09.849 --> 00:56:13.010
of Justice later that year. As of 2025, he's

00:56:13.010 --> 00:56:16.349
listed as a missing person with no updates. So

00:56:16.349 --> 00:56:17.690
what do you think? What do you make of that,

00:56:17.849 --> 00:56:19.769
brother? Have you ever heard of the 60 -foot

00:56:19.769 --> 00:56:22.070
hole that won't go away? Tell me. I don't think

00:56:22.070 --> 00:56:24.949
I have. And so years ago, climbers discovered

00:56:24.949 --> 00:56:28.110
a mysterious hand dug shaft on Mount Shasta's

00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:30.849
flank, which was this neat circular bore about

00:56:30.849 --> 00:56:34.170
15 feet wide and 60 feet deep. descending straight

00:56:34.170 --> 00:56:36.610
into the rock. Authorities later filled it in

00:56:36.610 --> 00:56:39.210
for what they called safety. That story kind

00:56:39.210 --> 00:56:41.849
of refuses to be buried. What was it? A treasure

00:56:41.849 --> 00:56:44.750
tunnel, a secret entrance to Tellios, an unfinished

00:56:44.750 --> 00:56:47.130
experiment. Nobody really agrees. And I think

00:56:47.130 --> 00:56:49.190
that's the beauty of it. The Shasta hole has

00:56:49.190 --> 00:56:51.650
become a mirror for the imagination. The Warshars

00:56:51.650 --> 00:56:55.090
test of ice and stone. And perhaps maybe he fell

00:56:55.090 --> 00:56:57.670
down the 60 foot hole. Where was the hole though?

00:56:57.809 --> 00:56:59.849
This guy was pretty high up in the elevation.

00:57:00.170 --> 00:57:02.150
Yeah, they say this is pretty high up. So they

00:57:02.150 --> 00:57:04.949
didn't point. to exactly where it was, but I

00:57:04.949 --> 00:57:06.769
don't know. A lot of this Mount Shasta stuff

00:57:06.769 --> 00:57:09.010
connects to the hollow earth theory that people

00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:11.170
love to talk about that I don't necessarily believe

00:57:11.170 --> 00:57:13.809
in. It started somewhere, I guess, mid mountain

00:57:13.809 --> 00:57:16.550
and folks could fall down in it. So the government

00:57:16.550 --> 00:57:18.929
covered it up. I could not find the exact location

00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:22.030
on a map or in a document, but somewhere up there

00:57:22.030 --> 00:57:24.469
in this mythical mountain. Yeah. I feel like,

00:57:24.530 --> 00:57:27.369
so Grizz Adams, I feel like with 20 plus years

00:57:27.369 --> 00:57:29.530
on Mount Shasta, especially near the peak, he

00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:31.590
would have known where that hole was and would

00:57:31.590 --> 00:57:34.119
have. probably searched that pretty quickly if

00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:35.940
it was up that high. For some reason, I don't

00:57:35.940 --> 00:57:37.960
know if that hole, I know what the hole you're

00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.820
talking about is. It almost sounds like something

00:57:40.820 --> 00:57:42.980
like a prospector would dig, even though it wouldn't

00:57:42.980 --> 00:57:45.539
make a lot of sense for a prospector to dig it

00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:47.960
up mid -mountain because I watched enough gold

00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.780
rush to know that all the gold tends to lie in

00:57:50.780 --> 00:57:54.699
river beds, creek beds, or beds of the sort that

00:57:54.699 --> 00:57:57.940
dry up over time. So to dig a hole that high

00:57:57.940 --> 00:58:00.389
up. that far away from a creek bed wouldn't make

00:58:00.389 --> 00:58:02.530
a whole lot of sense, but who knows? Maybe you

00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:06.150
had an experienced miner or somebody who thought

00:58:06.150 --> 00:58:09.250
they found something, but to dig 60 feet is a

00:58:09.250 --> 00:58:14.570
pretty big commitment. Yeah. I admit it as more

00:58:14.570 --> 00:58:16.110
in tongue in cheek because I think some of this

00:58:16.110 --> 00:58:19.690
stuff about Manchester is pretty fantastical.

00:58:19.889 --> 00:58:22.750
Have you heard about the interdimensional Sasquatch?

00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.260
I think we talked a little bit about Sasquatch,

00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:27.960
and a lot of people do believe, even modern theorists

00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.679
now, a lot of these conspiracy shows and podcasts

00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.500
actually think Sasquatch is an interdimensional

00:58:33.500 --> 00:58:35.820
being, and they're serious about it. Yeah, you

00:58:35.820 --> 00:58:37.480
take a shirt off and run out in the woods, people

00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.139
might think they see Sasquatch. In Manscaped

00:58:39.139 --> 00:58:41.079
right now, brother. I look like a human, but

00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:47.860
give it six months, why not? This one is fantastical,

00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.840
though. So Bigfoot is a creature of footprints

00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.360
and obviously folklore. But on Mount Shasta,

00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.380
he's a glitch in reality. Witnesses tell of hawking

00:58:57.380 --> 00:59:00.460
silhouettes crossing pumice flats. Their steps

00:59:00.460 --> 00:59:02.900
heavy, but their tracks fading halfway across

00:59:02.900 --> 00:59:05.199
the open ground. Others describe orbs of light

00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.800
pacing the treeline before revolving into a giant

00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.079
fur covered forms that shimmer and vanish. It's

00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.420
as if the creature steps between the layers of

00:59:14.420 --> 00:59:17.389
the world half an hour. and half and another.

00:59:17.590 --> 00:59:21.409
Old tribal stories speak of wild men or shadow

00:59:21.409 --> 00:59:24.530
guardians who could move unseen protecting sacred

00:59:24.530 --> 00:59:28.070
places and modern witnesses reframe them as interdimensional

00:59:28.070 --> 00:59:31.190
travelers, beings who slip through the same portals

00:59:31.190 --> 00:59:34.230
that Lemurians use to reach Tellios. Some cryptid

00:59:34.230 --> 00:59:36.710
hunters have recorded sudden temperature drops,

00:59:37.130 --> 00:59:40.010
flashes of static and magnetic interference whenever

00:59:40.010 --> 00:59:43.050
sightings occur, and few claim to have heard

00:59:43.050 --> 00:59:45.900
low frequency vibrations in the air and a hum

00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:48.519
that feels more mechanical than animal. I think

00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.780
in Shasta's myth, Bigfoot isn't really a missing

00:59:51.780 --> 00:59:54.480
link. It's a messenger, a gatekeeper of the broader

00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.360
between natural and like the supernatural. Every

00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.260
broken branch or this kind of echoing howl becomes

01:00:00.260 --> 01:00:03.139
a reminder that some myths just don't walk among

01:00:03.139 --> 01:00:06.260
us. They phase right through us. Yeah, old Bigfoot.

01:00:06.340 --> 01:00:07.920
I'd love to have somebody on the show that's

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.480
like a Bigfoot expert. That'd be so cool to interview

01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.460
someone like that. I'm on the fence with Bigfoot,

01:00:12.619 --> 01:00:15.099
man. I'm not real sure what I think it is. There

01:00:15.099 --> 01:00:17.619
have been people who claim to have recovered

01:00:17.619 --> 01:00:20.739
like fur and they got DNA out of it and it came

01:00:20.739 --> 01:00:23.019
back as something unknown. I tend to believe

01:00:23.019 --> 01:00:26.800
it's something natural. It's just a species that's...

01:00:26.989 --> 01:00:29.429
Like the North American ape or something that

01:00:29.429 --> 01:00:32.489
is just you know so rare that it's hard to find

01:00:32.489 --> 01:00:35.369
and they're probably a little smarter than the

01:00:35.369 --> 01:00:37.909
average animal, but I don't know it's a super

01:00:37.909 --> 01:00:41.349
super interesting topic and I would like to do

01:00:41.349 --> 01:00:44.349
a deep dive on it, but with my hand being held

01:00:44.349 --> 01:00:46.429
with somebody who's a quote unquote expert or

01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:49.949
has at least sufficient knowledge on it. So Mount

01:00:49.949 --> 01:00:52.510
Shasta is like wildly regarded as one of the

01:00:52.510 --> 01:00:54.989
most active interdimensional portal zones on

01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:58.610
earth, a place where the veil is thin between

01:00:58.610 --> 01:01:01.050
physical reality and higher dimensions. And it's

01:01:01.050 --> 01:01:04.150
also says that it's a portal to parallel timelines

01:01:04.150 --> 01:01:07.349
and it's supposedly exceptionally thin. These

01:01:07.349 --> 01:01:10.349
portals are not physical doors, but energy vortexes

01:01:10.349 --> 01:01:14.489
or energy vortices. anomalies. The claim is that

01:01:14.489 --> 01:01:17.260
they're consciousness gateways as well. that

01:01:17.260 --> 01:01:21.760
they allegedly allow beings, AKA Lumerians, ETs,

01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:24.199
Ascendant Masters, I hate that word, and cryptids,

01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:26.199
to enter and exit and occasionally humans to

01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:29.260
slip through. The concept kind of blends indigenous

01:01:29.260 --> 01:01:32.900
shamanism, obviously theosophy, ufology, and

01:01:32.900 --> 01:01:35.920
quantum physics. So it gets a little crazy. Hey,

01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.179
you've talked about the ley lines earlier. The

01:01:38.179 --> 01:01:40.780
claim is that the ley lines amplify this high

01:01:40.780 --> 01:01:43.579
frequency energy, essentially created from the

01:01:43.579 --> 01:01:47.010
volcanic rock amplifies scalar waves. And it

01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:50.429
can act as a portal to somewhere else. Here are

01:01:50.429 --> 01:01:53.469
apparently seven major portals. So Panther Meadows

01:01:53.469 --> 01:01:56.530
is an elevation of 7 ,600 feet. It's the primary

01:01:56.530 --> 01:01:59.630
earth portal and the known activity is the Lumarian

01:01:59.630 --> 01:02:02.550
Entry -Exit. UFO landings and time slips. You

01:02:02.550 --> 01:02:04.929
have one at Heart Lake, which is at 9 ,200 feet.

01:02:04.989 --> 01:02:08.010
This is apparently the contact portal. You have

01:02:08.010 --> 01:02:10.429
Helen Lake, which oddly enough is where Carl

01:02:10.429 --> 01:02:13.889
was at 10 ,400 feet. And they call this the disappearance

01:02:13.889 --> 01:02:16.190
portal. I think you need more than one person

01:02:16.190 --> 01:02:18.090
to disappear up there to call it a disappearance

01:02:18.090 --> 01:02:20.690
portal. Poor Carl Landers, but just because one

01:02:20.690 --> 01:02:23.570
guy had the unfortunate circumstance disappearing

01:02:23.570 --> 01:02:25.849
doesn't mean that there was a portal. You have

01:02:25.849 --> 01:02:28.969
the gateway near Thumb Rock and it's called the

01:02:28.969 --> 01:02:30.929
Ascension Portal. And this is where they claim

01:02:30.929 --> 01:02:33.809
St. Germain and the violet flame activations

01:02:33.809 --> 01:02:36.550
happened. Then you have Pluto's cave. It's at

01:02:36.550 --> 01:02:39.170
4 ,200 feet. So a little bit lower on the mountain.

01:02:39.429 --> 01:02:42.369
It's apparently an underground portal to Fractalian,

01:02:42.469 --> 01:02:45.809
Lumerians and deep underground military base

01:02:45.809 --> 01:02:48.449
access. You have Castle Lake at 5 ,500 feet and

01:02:48.449 --> 01:02:51.360
it's apparently... the water portal where people

01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.500
have claimed to have seen underwater lights and

01:02:53.500 --> 01:02:55.619
things of the sort. And then last but not least,

01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.000
you have McLeod River Falls at 3 ,500 feet and

01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.679
it's apparently the elemental portal. And that's

01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:04.519
where people have heard sound anomalies and have

01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.639
seen fairies. So a lot of this to me just screams

01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.559
esoteric kind of nonsense, but I think to cover

01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:13.940
this topic, we had to bring it up. So there are,

01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:16.099
there are a couple of famous portal incidents.

01:03:16.340 --> 01:03:20.090
There's one at panther medals. In 1987, a group

01:03:20.090 --> 01:03:23.210
of 12 meditators saw a seven -foot robe, step

01:03:23.210 --> 01:03:25.550
out of thin air, walk 20 feet and vanish into

01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:27.630
the meadows. I'm curious as to if they were doing

01:03:27.630 --> 01:03:31.349
mushrooms or not. 2016, Ricardo Gonzalez led

01:03:31.349 --> 01:03:33.570
an expedition and used telepathic coordinates

01:03:33.570 --> 01:03:36.750
to open a portal and claimed a triangular craft

01:03:36.750 --> 01:03:39.989
appeared on cue filmed by 40 witnesses. I didn't

01:03:39.989 --> 01:03:42.489
check to see if that was confirmed, but I'm guessing

01:03:42.489 --> 01:03:45.579
some sort of drugs or... Some sort of psychotic

01:03:45.579 --> 01:03:48.980
break was involved. And in 2023, a hiker reported

01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:51.260
time dilation. He claimed to have left at 2 PM,

01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:53.980
returned at six, but his watch only showed 30

01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:56.460
minutes had passed. So that's a little interesting

01:03:56.460 --> 01:03:59.199
to me. That kind of piques my curiosity, whether

01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:00.920
or not that's true or not. I guess he would only

01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.880
know. So the portal Heart Lake is a CE5 hotspot.

01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:09.199
So in 2021 to 2025, monthly human initiated contact

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.679
events using Dr. Stephen Greer's protocols. Again,

01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:14.019
I don't even want to get in the steam. Greer,

01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.679
but they claim to have summoned orbs and light

01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.900
shifts. One video from 2024 shows a golden Merkaba

01:04:20.900 --> 01:04:23.559
spinning over the lake. So I'm not even get into

01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:26.860
the mechanisms of Stephen Greer's protocols because

01:04:26.860 --> 01:04:29.119
I think it's a cult. And I think when you start

01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.539
deviling the cult, you can summon stuff. So I

01:04:31.539 --> 01:04:33.559
didn't want to get into that. And then there's

01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:35.820
obviously like we talked about Carl, you have

01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:37.880
the Helen Lake, the vanishing zone. Sometimes

01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.960
I think these people get disoriented or. There's

01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.699
some other underlying cause that make them get

01:04:43.699 --> 01:04:47.820
a bit disoriented, which is curious, but at the

01:04:47.820 --> 01:04:50.739
same time. I just feel like these one -off cases

01:04:50.739 --> 01:04:53.599
are by no means evidence. Yeah, what's interesting

01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.940
about Panther Meadow, known among the mystics

01:04:56.940 --> 01:05:01.059
as the Portal Meadow, it sets high on Mount Shasta's

01:05:01.059 --> 01:05:03.820
southern slope, and it's a stretch of soft grass

01:05:03.820 --> 01:05:07.320
and wildflowers fed by a spring so pure, the

01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:09.340
Wintu people have worshipped it for centuries.

01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:12.860
To the Wintu, this is the birthplace of humanity.

01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.400
The Axe is where the creator shaped the world.

01:05:15.539 --> 01:05:18.039
And to the New Age seekers, it's a stargate.

01:05:18.030 --> 01:05:20.849
a vortex, a place where time and light seem to

01:05:20.849 --> 01:05:23.590
thin. Now that Meadow has been placed under new

01:05:23.590 --> 01:05:26.929
protective orders beginning August 14th of 2024

01:05:26.929 --> 01:05:30.889
and lasting until August 14th of 2026, the US

01:05:30.889 --> 01:05:33.429
Forest Service has enacted restrictions, limited

01:05:33.429 --> 01:05:36.449
group sizes, prohibitions on stepping into the

01:05:36.449 --> 01:05:39.090
springs, and leash laws for animals. The update

01:05:39.230 --> 01:05:42.389
issued in March 25 is meant to protect fragile

01:05:42.389 --> 01:05:44.769
habitats, but to believers, it reads like something

01:05:44.769 --> 01:05:47.030
else. They call it guarding the doorway, this

01:05:47.030 --> 01:05:50.070
bureaucratic echo of the ancient ideal that the

01:05:50.070 --> 01:05:52.429
gate must be watched. The rules may be simple,

01:05:52.429 --> 01:05:55.650
but the mythic language of Shasta, even in ordinance,

01:05:55.769 --> 01:05:58.349
can feel like a sign. And when government red

01:05:58.349 --> 01:06:00.849
tape comes in, it makes people start to guess

01:06:00.849 --> 01:06:02.849
of what's really happening there. Now, there

01:06:02.849 --> 01:06:05.489
is obviously a lot of rumors, a lot of tales,

01:06:05.570 --> 01:06:07.690
and a lot of stories. How much is confirmed,

01:06:07.690 --> 01:06:09.719
I don't know. But it seems like there could be

01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.159
seeds of truth if so many people are collectively

01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.579
talking about it. Now, I know there's also a

01:06:14.579 --> 01:06:16.780
culture in some of these hippie communes and

01:06:16.780 --> 01:06:19.019
hippie villages that you go up there that they

01:06:19.019 --> 01:06:21.380
do a lot of mushrooms and they do get very high

01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:23.300
as they worship the mountains. It could be a

01:06:23.300 --> 01:06:25.460
mix of things of people thinking they see something

01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:27.780
that's not really there and maybe something going

01:06:27.780 --> 01:06:29.340
on. So anything else you want to explore on this

01:06:29.340 --> 01:06:31.420
topic? Because I'm just getting a lot of occult

01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:34.010
stuff. and a pretty big occult vibe. Yeah, so

01:06:34.010 --> 01:06:36.070
I think one of the interesting things that I

01:06:36.070 --> 01:06:38.550
found in my research was the new monument on

01:06:38.550 --> 01:06:41.789
Shasta's doorstep. Just northeast of Mount Shasta,

01:06:42.510 --> 01:06:45.210
the Medicine Lake Highlands have taken on a new

01:06:45.210 --> 01:06:47.510
name and a new life. And I can't pronounce this

01:06:47.510 --> 01:06:49.449
name, but I think it's something along the lines

01:06:49.449 --> 01:06:52.690
of Satatia Highlands National Monument, which

01:06:52.690 --> 01:06:55.929
was established in 25. Spanning more than 224

01:06:55.929 --> 01:06:59.190
,000 acres of volcanic terrain, lava beds, obsidian

01:06:59.190 --> 01:07:02.610
domes, and this kind of vast labyrinth. The monument

01:07:02.610 --> 01:07:05.809
preserves land that both scientists and storytellers

01:07:05.809 --> 01:07:08.969
have long claimed as sacred. For indigenous communities,

01:07:09.050 --> 01:07:11.070
it's a cradle of origin and ceremony. And for

01:07:11.070 --> 01:07:13.750
mystics, it's an extension of Shasta's unseen

01:07:13.750 --> 01:07:17.090
architecture. Another piece of planetary power

01:07:17.090 --> 01:07:19.690
grid. The highlands honeycomb of the lava tubes

01:07:19.690 --> 01:07:23.150
has been mapped and named in local folklore as

01:07:23.150 --> 01:07:25.369
the underground labyrinth, a rumored corridor

01:07:25.369 --> 01:07:28.630
linking Shasta to distant hollow Earth cities.

01:07:28.929 --> 01:07:31.550
Even NASA once trained astronauts here, testing

01:07:31.550 --> 01:07:34.269
equipment in the alien landscapes of basalt and

01:07:34.269 --> 01:07:36.730
glass, which only fueled the legend further.

01:07:36.849 --> 01:07:39.110
Now, with federal protections assuring that the

01:07:39.110 --> 01:07:41.929
terrain remains untouched, both history and mystery

01:07:41.929 --> 01:07:45.210
kind of coexist. And tourists come for the geology's

01:07:45.260 --> 01:07:47.679
come obviously for the energy. I think either

01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:51.139
way this new monument expands Shasta's mythic

01:07:51.139 --> 01:07:53.579
frontier and another gate on the map of the mountain

01:07:53.579 --> 01:07:56.119
that really never runs out of entrances. Yeah

01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:58.739
I think to do the topic justice we kind of have

01:07:58.739 --> 01:08:03.099
to touch on UFOs a bit so I didn't know this

01:08:03.099 --> 01:08:08.019
but Mount Shasta is the number 13 UFO hotspot

01:08:08.019 --> 01:08:10.719
in the US. So apparently there's 600 plus documented

01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.900
sightings between 1947 and 2025. The most recent

01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:19.659
one was from the IM group claimed to see a violet

01:08:19.659 --> 01:08:23.340
beam from summit that lasted I think seven minutes

01:08:23.340 --> 01:08:25.779
and it had 1200 plus witnesses. And apparently

01:08:25.779 --> 01:08:28.659
it's on 4k video and thermal cam. So this is

01:08:28.659 --> 01:08:32.000
where my belief in Christ and the Bible comes

01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.899
into play. I think people can summon demons and

01:08:35.899 --> 01:08:39.180
can summon things, especially with intention

01:08:39.180 --> 01:08:42.079
that are not what you think they are. So again,

01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.739
here we are with people conflating one thing

01:08:44.739 --> 01:08:47.960
for something else. So it's not shocking that

01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:50.880
these 1200 plus people saw something and recorded

01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:53.640
it. I just don't think it's something good. Also

01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:56.720
in October 19th, 2025, this, obviously that's

01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:58.939
this year, there was a phone video of a Tic Tac

01:08:58.939 --> 01:09:01.859
over McLeod falls. It was recorded by three hikers

01:09:01.859 --> 01:09:04.739
again. So I can just keep reading these off just

01:09:04.739 --> 01:09:08.020
in the past year or two. So There is something

01:09:08.020 --> 01:09:10.899
crazy going on up there. And the one weird thing

01:09:10.899 --> 01:09:14.039
that I ran across was there was a quote by a

01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:16.939
anonymous Shasta Ranger. And he was quoted as

01:09:16.939 --> 01:09:18.619
saying, I've seen things up there that don't

01:09:18.619 --> 01:09:21.159
fit any manual lights that follow you footprints

01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:23.340
that stop people who walk into the mist and don't

01:09:23.340 --> 01:09:25.779
come out. The mountain isn't haunted. It's awake.

01:09:25.899 --> 01:09:28.220
I don't know. It seems like something metaphysical

01:09:28.220 --> 01:09:30.680
or supernatural may be happening up there. But

01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.460
I think like with anything in this world, man,

01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:34.840
like you start seeing some of these phenomena

01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:36.960
and I don't think they are. what you think there.

01:09:37.140 --> 01:09:39.100
I don't think it's aliens. I don't think it's

01:09:39.100 --> 01:09:41.399
cryptids. I don't think it's you're seeing people

01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:43.979
ascending masters, phasing in and out of reality.

01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:46.420
I think it's demons playing their games. And

01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:48.560
in this case, probably being summoned by these

01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.159
people who want to see them. Yeah. It's a good

01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.399
point. As far as I'm concerned, I think Mount

01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:54.720
Chasta is like the leading place in the United

01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.960
States where people see foes and it's very common.

01:09:58.140 --> 01:09:59.739
You could Google search it and you can probably

01:09:59.739 --> 01:10:01.680
come up with some video that's showing. I don't

01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.319
know if there's anything concrete that says,

01:10:03.460 --> 01:10:05.939
Hey, these are aliens visiting our world. ironic

01:10:05.939 --> 01:10:09.560
how it's close to Area 51, as close to the Grand

01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:11.420
Canyon. It's close to these areas that we see

01:10:11.420 --> 01:10:13.779
a whole lot of activity. I might as well cover

01:10:13.779 --> 01:10:16.239
it because it's on our podcast, but it's like

01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.579
what people call the clouds that park like ships.

01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.079
So on still afternoons, when lights lean gold

01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:24.979
over the cascades, Mount Shasta summit often

01:10:24.979 --> 01:10:28.039
wears a strange crown, a stack of clouds, silver

01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:30.460
disc layered like saucers. Meteorologists call

01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:33.100
them standing wave clouds formed when moist air

01:10:33.100 --> 01:10:35.159
rides up the mountain, hits the cold. layers

01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:38.359
and folds back on itself. Scientifically explainable.

01:10:38.659 --> 01:10:41.699
But legends don't stop there. The local and spiritual

01:10:41.699 --> 01:10:44.460
tourists alike say those aren't clouds so much

01:10:44.460 --> 01:10:47.010
as a mothership. hidden in plain sight, resting

01:10:47.010 --> 01:10:49.170
above the summit and waiting. Lights have been

01:10:49.170 --> 01:10:51.229
claimed beneath them, descending the ridges,

01:10:51.430 --> 01:10:54.369
slipping into twilight, and photographers snap

01:10:54.369 --> 01:10:57.729
images of perfect disc shapes, flawless symmetry,

01:10:57.970 --> 01:11:00.449
and they call them UFO clouds. The lore of Tellios

01:11:00.449 --> 01:11:02.989
of the Subtranian cities and hidden doorways

01:11:02.989 --> 01:11:06.229
such as clouds are highways or parking bays for

01:11:06.229 --> 01:11:08.569
crafts that kind of travel between dimensions.

01:11:08.770 --> 01:11:11.149
The mountain becomes not only a sacred site,

01:11:11.189 --> 01:11:13.810
but also an airfield to the unseen. Hikers who

01:11:13.810 --> 01:11:16.630
pause at dusk silhouette after silhouette sometime

01:11:16.630 --> 01:11:18.750
hear the hum of something unclassified. They

01:11:18.750 --> 01:11:21.010
set up tripods and cameras and they whisper about

01:11:21.010 --> 01:11:23.789
ships parked in the sky. The myth and the meteorology

01:11:23.789 --> 01:11:25.989
merge. These discs become more than weather.

01:11:26.189 --> 01:11:28.390
They become symbols that coexist together of

01:11:28.390 --> 01:11:31.229
our outer world and our inner world of the mundane

01:11:31.229 --> 01:11:34.289
and the miraculous at Shasta skies open up just

01:11:34.289 --> 01:11:36.630
enough to let the myth breathe. I've seen pictures

01:11:36.630 --> 01:11:38.409
of these. They're pretty interesting though.

01:11:38.409 --> 01:11:40.729
I don't know that I would ever confuse them for

01:11:40.729 --> 01:11:42.810
UFOs, but there are a whole lot of sightings

01:11:42.810 --> 01:11:44.960
out there. Yeah. So what do you think Mount Shasta

01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.420
is, man? What's your conclusion? I spent hours

01:11:47.420 --> 01:11:50.779
upon hours pouring in research into Mount Shasta.

01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:53.520
My conclusion is I don't know. And I'm okay saying

01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.460
that I don't know. I think there's a lot of interesting

01:11:56.460 --> 01:11:59.439
things that are going on out there. Some may

01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:03.260
be things we can't quantify. Perhaps it's Bigfoot

01:12:03.260 --> 01:12:05.479
and people call it Bigfoot, but perhaps it's

01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:07.579
like a bear standing on their back legs. I don't

01:12:07.579 --> 01:12:09.710
really know. But there's a lot of interesting

01:12:09.710 --> 01:12:11.850
stuff going on out there. And I don't know if

01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:13.770
we'll ever know. I think the mystics want to

01:12:13.770 --> 01:12:16.149
believe it's something that it's not. I do believe

01:12:16.149 --> 01:12:18.390
that the cults think this mountain is something,

01:12:18.390 --> 01:12:20.949
and I just don't see any research that supports

01:12:20.949 --> 01:12:25.390
their conclusions about Lemuria or Atlantis or

01:12:25.390 --> 01:12:28.109
aliens or any of this stuff that's circulating.

01:12:28.529 --> 01:12:31.029
But I do think there's a lot of weirdness going

01:12:31.029 --> 01:12:33.350
on out there. It's not a place I would want to

01:12:33.350 --> 01:12:36.210
walk alone at night, whether it be because the

01:12:36.210 --> 01:12:37.819
cults are going to grab you or something. something's

01:12:37.819 --> 01:12:39.420
going to grab you or you're going to fall into

01:12:39.420 --> 01:12:41.960
a lava tube or whatever the case may be. But

01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:44.020
it's a whole lot of strangeness that it's hard

01:12:44.020 --> 01:12:47.140
for me to classify, but I just say approach these

01:12:47.140 --> 01:12:49.520
subjects easily. You can believe in some things.

01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:51.380
You don't have to believe in all things and keep

01:12:51.380 --> 01:12:53.300
your heart centered on God. What about you? Yeah,

01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:55.659
I struggle with it too. There seems to be a lot

01:12:55.659 --> 01:12:59.310
of occult. aka demonic activity out there. So

01:12:59.310 --> 01:13:01.970
I know historically, both biblically and through

01:13:01.970 --> 01:13:05.449
other religious texts, both oral and the ones

01:13:05.449 --> 01:13:08.170
that are written down, angels tend, when they

01:13:08.170 --> 01:13:10.529
leave their original habitat coming down to earth,

01:13:10.630 --> 01:13:12.670
they tend to land on mountains. Which is an interesting

01:13:12.670 --> 01:13:15.789
fact. The 200 Watchers, when they descended from

01:13:15.789 --> 01:13:18.310
heaven, they landed on top of Mount Hermon. I'm

01:13:18.310 --> 01:13:22.430
wondering if it's not some sort of area where

01:13:22.779 --> 01:13:26.699
demons, fallen angels are at, like their presences

01:13:26.699 --> 01:13:30.439
and with all these occultists and theosophists

01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:34.920
and the offshoots of them are in their own way

01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.939
worshiping them and asking to see them. And so

01:13:37.939 --> 01:13:40.899
they're manifesting some pretty gnarly things.

01:13:41.180 --> 01:13:43.319
I also too think it is volcanic mountain. So

01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.439
I wonder how much of it can be explained by physics

01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:50.020
in geomagnetic phenomena. It's a place that I

01:13:50.020 --> 01:13:53.420
think as of 200 years ago, it erupted. So I think

01:13:53.420 --> 01:13:56.380
that kind of takes away the possibility that

01:13:56.380 --> 01:13:58.720
there's an underground city there. I think if

01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.659
it's erupted, anything underneath it would have

01:14:00.659 --> 01:14:03.779
been long destroyed. And there have been several

01:14:03.779 --> 01:14:06.800
eruptions in the past thousand years. So it's

01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.439
not like it's been a dormant mountain for a thousand

01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:12.369
years. So there's been enough. destruction and

01:14:12.369 --> 01:14:14.630
eruptions to have destroyed whatever was underneath

01:14:14.630 --> 01:14:17.050
there. Do I believe it? No, but it's fun to think

01:14:17.050 --> 01:14:19.729
about maybe some deep underground military bases

01:14:19.729 --> 01:14:21.810
there. I think the possibility is slim. I do

01:14:21.810 --> 01:14:24.670
think they exist around the country, but do they

01:14:24.670 --> 01:14:26.970
exist there? I just don't think there's enough

01:14:26.970 --> 01:14:30.949
evidence to suggest that. But lean toward the

01:14:30.949 --> 01:14:34.970
spiritual demonic type presence that people are

01:14:34.970 --> 01:14:37.890
summoning with their intentions. We talked about

01:14:37.890 --> 01:14:41.859
people's intentions with our demonic doll. episode.

01:14:41.859 --> 01:14:44.659
And I think this is falls in that category. I've

01:14:44.659 --> 01:14:46.819
actually, I've seen the mountain before, not

01:14:46.819 --> 01:14:49.819
up close and personal, but driving or flying

01:14:49.819 --> 01:14:53.000
near it. I've seen the mountain and sometimes

01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:56.319
things that are absolutely beautiful, that are

01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:59.460
absolutely majestic. You give it enough time.

01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:02.760
It breeds really interesting stories that people

01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:05.500
want to tell and connect to it and feel like

01:15:05.500 --> 01:15:08.180
they belong by telling these tales around a fire.

01:15:08.659 --> 01:15:11.470
So I think everything that is beautiful or majestic

01:15:11.470 --> 01:15:13.529
that God has created. Eventually people start

01:15:13.529 --> 01:15:16.250
telling tales about it. And it is, it's a beautiful

01:15:16.250 --> 01:15:18.329
thing to see when you're out on the West coast.

01:15:18.670 --> 01:15:20.850
But I don't know, man. I think there's probably

01:15:20.850 --> 01:15:23.289
some demonic things that are going on out there

01:15:23.289 --> 01:15:25.529
as they always are when they're tied to cults.

01:15:25.609 --> 01:15:27.989
I think the possibility of a military base is

01:15:27.989 --> 01:15:30.689
probably the most plausible explanation for things

01:15:30.689 --> 01:15:32.729
that are going on out there. A lot of the things

01:15:32.729 --> 01:15:36.890
that went on with Area 51 are experimental aircrafts

01:15:36.890 --> 01:15:38.850
that you're seeing. So perhaps people are seeing

01:15:38.850 --> 01:15:40.979
experimental aircrafts. We know the military

01:15:40.979 --> 01:15:43.479
did training out there. We know NASA did training

01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.819
out there as well. So I think it's the most plausible

01:15:46.819 --> 01:15:48.800
explanation for some of these sightings that

01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.100
people are seeing. And then it's just, I think,

01:15:51.180 --> 01:15:53.140
the science that people don't understand if we're

01:15:53.140 --> 01:15:55.520
talking about meteorology with the cloud formations

01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:57.840
above the mountain and what caused it. If you've

01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:59.520
already gone down a rabbit hole, you're not going

01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.420
to listen to the lab and science. You're going

01:16:02.420 --> 01:16:04.760
to want to breathe the myth that goes along with

01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.060
it. So we hope you have a peaceful night. Keep

01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:09.079
the feed strong, like, subscribe. Subscribe,

01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.399
follow, comment on our videos. You people out

01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:13.619
in Miami, tell us why, how you heard about us,

01:16:13.659 --> 01:16:15.359
how you're following along with us. We would

01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:17.500
love to know. Sign up, man. We'll have some good

01:16:17.500 --> 01:16:18.699
conversations in the future.