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ZERO SIGNAL. A show about what they won't say

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and what you're probably already thinking. No

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fluff, no filters, no bullshit. Let's crack it

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open. So tonight, I think we have a pretty interesting

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topic at hand. I know I went down some pretty

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deep rabbit holes with this one, but have you

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ever noticed how the biggest mysteries on earth

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don't really seem to happen in the open? They

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tend to happen underground or under the ocean.

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I feel like everything happens underground. Are

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you talking about secret bunkers, hidden bases,

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Area 51 kind of stuff? Yeah, pretty close, man.

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I'm talking about CERN. It's a 16 .6 mile ring

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that is a 12 foot wide tunnel buried through

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330 feet under the ground. That's roughly the

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length of a football field and it's under the

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French -Swiss border. Thousands of international

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scientists from all over the world go there to

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study and research. Pretty cool fact that I discovered

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is that the magnets that kind of power the particles

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is colder than outer space. It's roughly only

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1 .9 degrees above absolute zero, which is mind

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-boggling to think about. And if you ask the

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internet, it's just not a place that they're

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studying physics. It's a place that they're messing

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with the paranormal, the metaph - and some even

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say the occult. Yeah, I've done a lot of good

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research on CERN. There's a lot of interesting

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things going on there. And really depending on

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who you ask, CERN is either unlocking the secrets

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of the universe or perhaps unlocking something

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that we were really never supposed to see. Like

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portals, timeline shifts. Some even claim that

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we're rebuilding the tower of Babel. Also interesting

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fact, people swear that when CERN was powered

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up in 2012, something shifted like the reality

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kind of glitch. Like we went through an alternate

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dimension. I love the mandolin effect crowd.

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It's like experiencing something for the first

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time, yet you feel like you swear you've seen

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it multiple different times. So like that logo

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used to look way different, even though it was

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just introduced today. And you're like, well,

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I've seen this before, but you know, that crowd's

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pretty interesting. And then the theory is pretty

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interesting as well. Yeah, there's definitely

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some pretty interesting things that I personally

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remember that when you look back at the internet

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archives, it's not what you thought it was. But

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here's the thing, even the scientists admit that

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they're smashing particles together to recreate

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the instant after the Big Bang. So what if something

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happened in that moment, like a microscopic explosion

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that really opened doorways to a parallel dimension,

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or I think the scarier option, like a doorway

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to a place that have some not nice spirits or

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fallen angels in it. That's always a good question

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is a doorway to what? To heaven, to perhaps to

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hell, or maybe even another universe. And that's

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the question we'll explore tonight. And tonight,

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we're going to walk through it. We're going to

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go down these deep rabbit holes. And I think

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a good place to start was with the history of

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CERN. And if you want to take that away, go ahead,

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my friend. Yeah, I love to. CERN, or the European

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Organization for Nuclear Research, is the world's

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largest particle physics laboratory, which straddles

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the French -Swiss border near Geneva, Switzerland.

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Its mission is pretty simple, but audacious.

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Build the most powerful instruments human can

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make to study the tiniest particles of nature

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and the forces that kind of govern them. The

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centerpiece of this experiment is the Large Hydron

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Collider, or the LHC, which is a 27 -kilometer

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circular tunnel where two proton beams are whipped

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to near -light speed and steered into these head

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-on collisions. Those microscopic smash -ups

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briefly recreate early universe conditions, so

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researchers can read what reality is really made

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of. In July of 2022, the LHC began their run

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three, raising the collision energy to a world

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record of 13 .6 Tera electron volts, essentially

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making the collider a brighter flashlight into

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the subatomic world. Think of the LHC like a

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racetrack, underground and the detectors, Atlas,

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CMS, Atlas, LHC, like stadium -sized cameras

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that surround collision points and take millions

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of pictures per second. The machine is kept colder

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than deep space. Magnets operate at 1 .2 Ks using

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this super fluid helium and feeds on an accelerator

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chain that preps the beam. It's an industrial

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scale orchestra of cryogenics, magnets, vacuum

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systems, and timing electronics that are all

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synchronized into the billionth of a second.

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CERN is also a global computing enterprise. Every

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second of data can fill libraries. So analysis

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rides on the worldwide LHC computing grid, a

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federation of more than 170 data centers across

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42 countries, offering roughly 1 .4 million cores

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and about 1 .5 extra bytes of distributed storage.

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That global backbone lets thousands of scientists

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to log in from their home institutions to sift

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collisions for new particles rare to or subtle

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deviations from the standard model. And historically,

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CERN pioneered how we share information. In 1989,

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Tim Burns Lee proposed the World Wide Web there.

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The first website went live from CERN soon after

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that event occurred. When we look at the quick

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history milestones, so CERN was born in 1954

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out of the post -war ideal, science for peace.

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12 European states signed on to rebuild basic

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science together, pulling budgets and... their

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super brain powers into this neutral hub near

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Geneva, Switzerland. From the start, the lab

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cultural blended open collaboration with these

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engineering moonshots, really setting the tone

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for the all mega projects that followed. The

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earlier accelerator era moved fast. PS established

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CERN as a machine building powerhouse, or really

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a super proton. In the late 1970s enabled proton

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anti -proton collisions, which produced the WNZs

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and Bosons, or the Carriers of the Weak Force,

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announced in 1983 and later recognized with the

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1984 Nobel Peace Prize. Those discoveries proved

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CERN could not only build record machines, but

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also deliver physical physics. From 1989 to 2000,

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the LEP, or the Large Electron Position Clider,

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wrapped around the same 27 -kilometer tunnel

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we use today. And maybe I'll stop there, because

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I'm nerding out right about all this science

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coming from it. Amazon. So what's your take?

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Yeah, man, I'm interested in these particle colliders.

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And another one that I find interesting, we'll

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have to do a show and it's called Oak Ridge.

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So there's one out in Tennessee. Again, a lot

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of these particle colliders were developed roughly

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a decade after World War II. And the main purpose

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was just to study nuclear physics. A lot of them

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were used for post -war industrialization. Obviously,

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the arms race was a big deal. We were trying

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to outpace, particularly the Soviets. And so

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we did all this research to explore Einstein's

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theory. relativity. All in all, there's 30 ,000

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plus particle accelerators. Most of them are

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used for medical or industrial use. I'm sure

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most of us here have unknowingly been inside

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of a particle accelerator for some of our medical

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testing. And I know industry uses them, too,

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to evolve things like shrink wrap. There's some

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pretty interesting uses for these machines. But

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there's also a subcategory of roughly about 1

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,200. They're called cyclotrons. They are mainly

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used for two things, isotope production, and

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then some medical uses, mainly research. This

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is where it gets fun. So there's another 70 plus.

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large cyclotrons that are used for research and

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light sources. So these are specifically used

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for science and other type of technological applications.

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So these all kind of fall underneath the particle

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accelerator class. There's actually only seven

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operational particle colliders and CERN is one

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of them. And I wanted to know if there's more

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being built, but China is building one that's

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going to end up being a hundred kilometers and

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it's supposed to be in use sometime in the next

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two to four years. That one's almost four times

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the size. size of the one out in Switzerland.

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And the future circular collider is essentially

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an upgrade to CERN. So eventually that 27 kilometer

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loop is that they're going to expand it up to

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91 kilometers. And Japan has one in the works

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and the United States also has one in the works,

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but that one's still pretty far off. Yeah, it's

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some scary stuff. And I know CERN is actually

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increasing their scope and they got some things

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planned for the future that maybe we'll get into

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a little bit later. You also mentioned something

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about... Oak Ridge that took me back a few years.

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One of my very good friends at Amazon at the

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time, he actually came from Oak Ridge. He was

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part of the law enforcement arm of some of the

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nuclear stuff in the federal government and got

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some inside peaks there. A bit awesome person

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taking our show. Unfortunately, just a couple

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of years ago, he passed away from brain cancer.

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So I don't know if it was something related to

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being around all this stuff, but it can be super

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scary. And we're talking about smashing particles

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together and studying the outcomes. A lot of

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that time reminds me of atom bomb. Are we going

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to blow up if they do something wrong? But inevitably

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across the forums, TikTok and YouTube and Reddit

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and all these alternate reality communities,

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CERN becomes really the anchor point for these

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claim clusters. Some of the very high level stuff

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that I've heard about was dimensional portals

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and wormholes, occult symbolism and hidden rituals,

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reality glitches, like we talked about with the

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Mandela effect, time travel and reverse causation.

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black holes being created and weather anomalies

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and just all these global effects and numerology

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and like these hidden codes that are in the CERN

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logo itself. And probably we'll go down a lot

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of these rabbit holes and talk a little bit about

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them. But I just think there's so much science

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and this has been going on for so long. And it's

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under a major city in Geneva where they have

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these huge particle colliders that a lot of people,

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even though they hear a lot about it, they probably

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don't think a lot about it. What's going on underneath

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their feet. And it's very advanced stuff. It's

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coming up with some really good stuff. Though

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the worldwide web was later developed, core concept

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came out of here. It was later developed by the

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federal government and specifically like the

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cloud and data storage later evolved from it.

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But it's coming up with some really fascinating

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stuff and they're studying things, what they

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call the God part of the foundations of humanity.

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And it makes me go back what you're talking about

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at the very beginning of this episode was perhaps

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are we building another. tower of Babel. And

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the big takeaway of that is God's going to break

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it down and cause confusion. And a lot of the

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time with the misinformation that's coming out

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on the internet is confusion of the people. So

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perhaps it's also leading into this another fall

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of Babel. Yeah. You mentioned it earlier. The

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one thing that kind of, I didn't know, I was

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a little bit ignorant on CERN as to the actual

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organization and the early life of this particle

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collider. For whatever reason, I thought it was

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something relatively new in the past decade and

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a half, but like, You said they were founded

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in 19, I think you said 54. But the thing that

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kind of blew my mind is I didn't realize that

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they're the one that created the World Wide Web.

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And I thought that that was pretty interesting.

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Yeah. So inventor Sir Tim Berners -Lee, a British

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scientist working at CERN, he helped create the

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World Wide Web. And his ultimate goal was to

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help certain researchers share documents easily.

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across different computers and networks. He came

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up with the HTML, the HTTP, the URL, and the

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first web server and browser. And in 1993, he

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released the web's code to the public free of

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charge, ensuring that it would become a universal

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system rather than a commercial product. And

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I know mostly the government and the military

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kind of laid the base for the internet, but CERN

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and Sir Tim Berners -Lee actually made the rail

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cars that kind of travel on the back of the network.

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So I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, it's

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super fascinating. that they're coming up with.

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And this is the stuff we're learning about 50

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years later, that they've done these really fantastic

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research that has helped in some senses, perhaps

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hurting others. Greater society is how we consume

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information, but it also leads to misinformation.

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And a lot of times, even though a lot of people

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may be speaking the same language, but perhaps

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we're not. I could be talking about a conspiracy

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theory and somebody else calling me a looney

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tune because I've done a different research and

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it exists. And I think we'll get into it in future.

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episodes, but like the dead internet theory and

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how much is reality out there versus you talking

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to bots and is being fake and driven by the media

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and driven by people that want to influence you

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to purchase something or believe a certain way

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or to vote a certain way. It can be all really

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interesting stuff. So we talked about this science

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behind CERN, that conspiracy equal map that has

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evolved over the last dozen years or so. What

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is one of the theories that you think could actually

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be true with CERN? What's something we should

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be on? radar and be on the lookout. Yeah. So

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I think one of the, I think it's probably been

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completely disproven, but I still think it poses

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a concern. So this isn't Jay's take on what the

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collider is or isn't. This is some pretty significant

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scientists were afraid that when you smash these

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particles together, that you could create like

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a mini black hole, which could eventually consume

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the earth and completely annihilate the planet.

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Back in this activation in 2008, doomsdayers

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flooded petitions and forums warning of an earth.

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devouring black hole. The collider's proton collisions

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mimic the Big Bang conditions and could potentially

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bring singularities that eventually grow uncontrollably.

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There was actually a lawsuit brought by a Hawaiian

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resident named Walter Wagner. He sought to halt

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the operation, deciding cosmic ray risk. He was

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concerned that it would eventually destroy the

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Earth despite the best intentions. The people

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at CERN do admit that black holes are created

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when some of these particles collide, but they

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last nanoseconds. They hit, they create a black

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hole, and then it dissipates pretty immediately.

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But some scientists are concerned that there's

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like a one in a million possibility that one

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time these particles are going to collide and

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it's going to create a black hole and eventually

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lead to a chain event that's going to create

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multiple black holes, which eventually turn into

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this one spiraling disk that sucks all the matter

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back into it. Yeah, I've heard that theory before.

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Some conjecture online states that in 2012, they

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actually did create a black hole that swallowed

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Earth. Then it turned everything that we're experiencing

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today into almost a simulation. So all those

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people that think life is just a simulation and

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nothing's reality and all folks believe that

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is why it occurred. I think ultimately we're

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talking about portals and parallel realities

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and really the Mandela effect. It has some association

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there. I think in the world of CERN lore, no

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story has really spread further or perhaps even

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inspired more fascination than the portal theory.

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It's this. The ideal that the Large Hydron Collider

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doesn't merely study the universe, it punctures

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it. According to this narrative, when the collider's

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proton beams smash together at near light speed,

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they create these microscopic ruptures in the

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fabric of our reality. If you would call them

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maybe temporary gateways or mirror dimensions.

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Believers say these tears might explain the strange

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collective memory phenomenon known as the Mandela

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Effect. in which large groups of people recall

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events that never officially happened. The name

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comes from countless individuals who saw Nelson

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Mandela died in prison in the 1980s, even though

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he was released, became president of South Africa,

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and lived until 2013. For those who subscribe

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to the Portal Theory, the explanation is simple.

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CERN opened the wrong door and reality slipped

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in. In the months leading up to the July 5th,

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2022, the day CERN was scheduled to restart the

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Collider for its third major run, known as Run

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3, that ideal really erupted across social media.

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The hashtag CERN, hashtag Mandela Effect, and

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hashtag parallel universe really trended on TikTok

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and YouTube as creators posted countdown videos

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warning of coming reality shifts. Some predicted

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this like mass glitches in consciousness while

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others framed their restart as this spiritual

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awakening. One self -described whistleblower

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claimed the Collider had the power to open other

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dimensions and manipulate the weather, calling

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it a weapon disguised as a scientific project.

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Thousands of viewers really echoed that sentiment

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online in the comment sections, promising to

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record the moment the beam was activated. Many

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described that day as this global threshold,

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the instance humanity would unknowingly cross

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into another version of itself. At the heart

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of the excitement was this simple date and time,

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July 5th, 2022, when the LHC would be powered

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up to 3 .6 trillion electron volts, the highest

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energy level ever achieved in human history.

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That machine stretching 17 miles beneath the

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border of France and Switzerland would smash

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particles together faster than any point before.

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For scientists, this was a triumph of engineering,

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of internal collaboration, marking the culminations

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of years of upgrades and maintenance. But those

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watching from the outside, it was something else

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entirely, a cosmic experiment perhaps with this

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metaphysical state. On forums and Discord channel,

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users speculated that the machine's energy output

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might pierce the veil between parallel universes.

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Some feared really the shift so subtle that no

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one would notice until it was absolutely too

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late. This untraceable slide into a near identical

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copy of our world. Others was romantic about

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it, calling the dawn of the fifth dimension or

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the vibrational awakening. Now, we know that

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big day has arrived because we're talking several

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years in the past. at this juncture, but some

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still conjecture that perhaps when they smashed

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these particles together back in July 5th of

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2022, they created this giant black hole and

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all this weird stuff that we experienced today

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as part of a simulation, as part of the Mandela

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effect that we slumped into this other dimension.

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Now, it seems a little far -fetched from my perspective,

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coming from a Christian worldview, but there

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is a lot of people that heavily believe that

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this occurred. Yeah, sometimes. You remember

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the 2012 Mayan apocalypse. It was the world was

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supposed to end sometime, I think, in December.

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I can't remember. Everybody was freaking out

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about it, which is so stupid. The one thing that

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they tie into CERN is that the world did end

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on December whatever, 2012, and it ended and

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CERN transported us to a different reality. in

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that transportation to a different, I don't know,

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string timeline that some of these Mandela Effect

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things we remember because we're from our timeline.

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But since we live in a different timeline, those

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of us that shifted with it remember things differently.

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And dude, I want to, so I want to play a Mandela

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Effect game with you and the audience can play

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along too. So some of these you may know, some

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of these you may not. But as a kid, do you remember

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it as the Berenstain Bears or the Berenstain

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Bears? I remember it as the Berenstain Bears.

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Correct. I do too. But apparently it is not.

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It's the Berenstain Bears. I remember it just

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like you do with an E and not an A. That one's

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weird. And we can debunk some of this stuff,

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but I too remember it as the Berenstain Bears.

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So do you remember the Fruit of Elune cornucopia?

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Like you remember the underwear stuff we used

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to get? Yeah. Do you remember like the fruit

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cornucopia is this logo? Yeah. Wasn't it like

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grapes or something? I don't remember exactly.

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I feel like it was like grapes and apples or

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something along those lines. Yeah. According

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to the internet. It never was. It never had a

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cornucopia. It looks like a horn thing that has

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like fruits and apples. And you just named off

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a bunch of them. That apparently is not the case.

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And I would have bet all my money that was the

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logo. And I don't know. Another one is called

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Shazam. I don't think we ever watched that movie,

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but do you remember who was supposed to be in

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that movie? And when you said Shazam, I was thinking

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about the music recording app that you used to

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steal music for. Yeah. But so lots of people

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remember a Sinbad. He used to be like a rapper

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back in like the 90s. being the main character

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in Shazam, but according to the internet, Shazam

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never existed, which I do vaguely remember Shaquille

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O 'Neal being in some movie as a genie, but I

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also remember Sinbad being a genie. Again, something

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in my psyche, along with these other two examples,

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that I do remember, but apparently Sinbad never

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was a genie on any movie. What it could be though,

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as I'm thinking about that, I do remember Sinbad.

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He was in the cartoon movie that was very popular.

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It was like the genie in the bottle or something

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along those lines that was... a very popular

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movie cartoon when we were a kid. And perhaps

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like Fruit of the Loom is getting confused with

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Fruit Loops or something. I wonder if there's

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just some like these mistakes that are happening.

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Yeah. So what did Darth Vader say to Luke in

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Star Wars? Isn't it, Luke, I am your father?

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Yes. That's exactly how I remember it too. But

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the actual I know I am your father. Dude, I don't

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remember that ever. Like it was always Luke,

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I am your father. Not no, I am your father. So

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again, another weird Mandela effect thing. And

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I don't know how I'm sure we probably read this

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book or looked at it when we were kids in kindergarten

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or something. But you remember Curious George?

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Yeah. Did he have a tail or not? He's a monkey.

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Yeah, he had a tail. Yeah, I remember him having

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a tail too. And again, this could be one of those

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things where you're just thinking with your logical

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brain, like the animal's a monkey, of course

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it has a tail. But in the books, he never had

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a tail. He was a tailless ape or a tailless chimpanzee.

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Yeah, dude. So these all kind of blow your mind.

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So what did the Monopoly man wear? I mean, we

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used to play Monopoly all the time. Do you remember

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if you wore something? Top hat and a monocle,

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right? Yeah. I remember it with a monocle, too.

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Again, if you look at Monopoly on the internet

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today, he does not have a monocle. This is blowing

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your mind. I went through these earlier, and

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I went through them a couple years ago when somebody

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else was presenting this, and I was like, dude,

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come on, you're making this stuff up. But no,

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the Monopoly man never had a monocle. Was it

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Looney Tunes, T -U -N -E -S, or Looney Tunes,

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T -O -O -N -S? I don't remember, but I'm going

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to go with Tunes, T -O -O -N -S. Exactly. Same

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thing I remember. Apparently it was tunes, like

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referring to music. Tunes is a plan to cartoon

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so that one doesn't make if I was using my logical

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brain even if I didn't remember I would say yeah

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tunes because it's a cartoon. But no, it was

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Looney Tunes as in the UNES referring to music.

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Yeah, but that's seven interesting kind of Mandela

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effects. And I think you and I agreed on every

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single one. The only one we don't remember is

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Shazam because I really don't remember watching

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that movie. But I do remember Sinbad as a genie

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on some boat. And I don't know, man. These are

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the kind of the big seven. There's a bunch of

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other ones like Nelson Mandela. There was a big

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thing where he died in prison. I don't remember

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him dying in prison. I remember him alive until

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he died of old age. I know. he went to prison.

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But there's a big part of the population that

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remembers him dying in prison. And that's another

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big one that they kind of source as to evidence

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of the Mandela effect. Yeah, I talked about that

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one initially. When I was researching this stuff

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a while ago, I was like, yeah, he died in prison.

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And then it took me a minute to catch up and

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be like, no, actually he lived. I watched some

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YouTuber that was traveling through South Africa

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and he visited his home and all these things.

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It's interesting. I just wonder if it's like

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this game of association. Like you ever play

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like telephone tag where I tell you something,

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then you tell your wife and your wife tells somebody

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else by the time it gets to the very end, the

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best story changes. Not completely, but there's

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facts that have changed or been exaggerated or

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replaced. I just wonder if there were so many

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of these brands back in the day that were ripping

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people off. Fruit of the Loom or Fruit Loops

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or what have you, that people just like routinely

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misassociate it with something else. I know as

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when we're younger and heck we even do it as

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adults. Like you said before, you're a cop and

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people misremember stuff pretty easily. You can

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go to a crime scene and interview seven different

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people and get seven different stories. But something

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like this for you and I remember the same thing.

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It's I think imagery has a pretty significant

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effect on the human psyche and those kind of

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motifs and those pictures and the kind of branding

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tends to really ingrain itself in like self -conscious.

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It's weird to me that something like fruit of

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a loom or even like the monopoly man. It's almost

00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:46.890
like at a certain point, do you argue was somehow

00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:49.309
a memory implanted in my brain? Because I would

00:24:49.309 --> 00:24:51.619
have bet if you want to a trivia game and you

00:24:51.619 --> 00:24:53.519
had to bet money. I would think these are stupid

00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:55.200
questions. I'm going to bet a hundred bucks because

00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.900
I know I'm going to win. That's how ingrained

00:24:56.900 --> 00:24:59.480
it. And we can do a whole episode on the debunking

00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.140
the Mandela effect, but this is some of the evidence

00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:05.460
people use to draw the conclusion that we shifted

00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:07.619
in reality. The interesting thing is like our

00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:09.440
kids, they're never going to remember anything

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:13.000
about the Monopoly man having a monocle or curious

00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.140
George not having a tail because they weren't

00:25:15.140 --> 00:25:17.039
alive during the eighties and nineties. They

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.019
wouldn't have experienced it. So they're experiencing.

00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:21.859
these kind of cultural motifs and this pop culture

00:25:21.859 --> 00:25:24.299
icons through the current day lens. If we were

00:25:24.299 --> 00:25:26.000
to talk to them, they would think we're lunatics.

00:25:26.259 --> 00:25:29.079
It would be an interesting case study of what

00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:31.720
like the millennials would remember or like different

00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.240
generations from us that what we grew up with,

00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.559
because they still make curious George books.

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.119
I don't know if they've changed the drawings

00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:40.660
since then. Kids still play Monopoly. Like it's

00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:42.759
still a famous game. I don't know if it's changed

00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:44.819
or altered over the years, if they've changed

00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:46.660
their imagery, but it'd be interesting to see

00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:49.640
what different generations. to remember or if

00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.380
you think that will tell if it's like a true

00:25:51.380 --> 00:25:53.880
association because a lot of times when I think

00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.660
of the Monopoly man, I also think of Mr. Peanut

00:25:56.660 --> 00:25:58.700
because that was like a popular character when

00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:00.660
we were kids as well. And they're both silly

00:26:00.660 --> 00:26:03.440
goofy and that you see these visuals of and for

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.519
some reason in my mind that Mr. Peanut and Monopoly

00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.119
man, even though I know one's a peanut, they

00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.039
look similar and my brain just gets confused

00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.960
around it. So it's kind of interesting. Yeah.

00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.220
And it's also, I think about it, I try to logic

00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:16.119
it out in my brain. I wonder if at one point

00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:18.529
in time, if there was like a product run, like

00:26:18.529 --> 00:26:20.789
in the eighties or nineties where maybe Fruit

00:26:20.789 --> 00:26:22.970
of Loom for three or four months had the cornucopia

00:26:22.970 --> 00:26:25.589
or the Monopoly Man had a monocle for a special

00:26:25.589 --> 00:26:28.029
edition. And for whatever reason, that's the

00:26:28.029 --> 00:26:30.849
one that the kids, kids, i .e. you and me and

00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:32.990
the people in our generation remember. It's also

00:26:32.990 --> 00:26:35.009
interesting that, cause I don't remember Nelson

00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:37.630
Mandela died in prison, but that apparently happened

00:26:37.630 --> 00:26:39.509
in like the early to mid eighties. So I wouldn't

00:26:39.509 --> 00:26:42.500
have been cognitively. developed to remember

00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:44.740
anything going on, let alone some guy dying.

00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:47.380
But people older than us seem to remember him

00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:49.119
dying in prison during the eighties. You and

00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.240
I wouldn't remember that because again, like

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.140
I said, we weren't aware we were children and

00:26:54.140 --> 00:26:56.019
our memories really hadn't formed. Yeah, it's

00:26:56.019 --> 00:26:59.440
a, it's crazy stuff, man. It really is. And memory

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.640
is so fallible and what you latch onto, there's

00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.220
groups of people sitting around studying people

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:08.240
as a culture and how can they use things to their

00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.680
competitive advantage. When I think about memory.

00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.839
when I used to train law enforcement officers

00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.079
and new recruits. We used to come into the police

00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.059
academy while they're all doing like a test or

00:27:18.059 --> 00:27:20.079
whatever, like they're focused on something else.

00:27:20.180 --> 00:27:22.519
And I would throw on a ski mask and I would come

00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.700
through the back doors of this large auditorium.

00:27:24.779 --> 00:27:27.420
I would throw a flashbang down the aisle. And

00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:29.839
it would explode and I would have a gun. I would

00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.920
shoot it twice. I would grab one of my buddies,

00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.539
right? One of the other instructors, take them

00:27:33.539 --> 00:27:35.359
hostage and roll out. And then everybody stopped

00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.400
and they've seen this flashbang go off. They've

00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.420
seen these blank rounds go off and they're like

00:27:39.420 --> 00:27:41.619
in this state of shock because they were so focused

00:27:41.619 --> 00:27:43.640
on whatever the presenter was teaching them.

00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:45.680
And then when you stop and say, what do you remember?

00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:48.220
Like that description of what I was wearing,

00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:50.660
my clothing, what I had on my face, what firearm

00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:54.000
I was carrying was consistently different across

00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.759
the group of everybody that was standing there

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.539
and witnessed the And it shows you how fragile

00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:01.180
memory is, in my opinion. Like it's a perfect

00:28:01.180 --> 00:28:02.980
case study because people are going to remember

00:28:02.980 --> 00:28:05.200
different things. Now, if I was launching a new

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.140
business that nobody knew about, but I wanted

00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:10.259
you to know about it, would I use characteristics

00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:13.519
of other successful brands to influence your

00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.740
purchasing decision? I absolutely would because

00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:17.960
nobody knows me yet. I want to latch onto something

00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.119
that's already successful and have my own little

00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.000
spin on it before I branch out and do my own

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.880
thing. But I want to pull some of their target

00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.259
audience away from them until I can. It gives

00:28:26.259 --> 00:28:29.200
me that competitive like startup time for that

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.259
brand. So I definitely think there are, and then

00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:33.359
there's a lot of smart people that all they do

00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.380
is dedicate their time and energy to studying

00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:38.440
markets and people and buying decisions. I think

00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.579
of Amazon. Obviously they make all their money.

00:28:40.660 --> 00:28:41.900
Most people don't know this, but they make all

00:28:41.900 --> 00:28:43.819
their money in Amazon Web Services. The entire

00:28:43.819 --> 00:28:46.079
time I worked there, they actually lost money

00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.980
in the marketplace when it came to the stuff

00:28:47.980 --> 00:28:50.500
that most people know for buying products. But

00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:53.619
all of their research went in for you to actually

00:28:53.619 --> 00:28:55.420
buy their product, not what they were. sell it,

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.680
but get you on target and send you a coupon if

00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.559
you don't click right away and then influence

00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.180
that buying decision. They focused on moments

00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:04.779
when you were most likely influenced late at

00:29:04.779 --> 00:29:07.019
night or when you're surfing online or when you're

00:29:07.019 --> 00:29:09.240
tired and you can't fall asleep. They would start

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.799
collecting that metadata to influence your buying

00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.420
decision. They would sell you any junk you want

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:16.400
to buy, but they found the right time place to

00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:19.099
do it. And it just shows you how easily we're

00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:21.539
persuaded. And if the right people step in your

00:29:21.539 --> 00:29:24.059
mind, like what they can make you remember what

00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:26.309
they make you can believe. You know, that story

00:29:26.309 --> 00:29:28.930
is even told in the Bible when the false prophets

00:29:28.930 --> 00:29:30.829
come along that they're going to influence people

00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:33.029
that I am God. And truly not, you're going to

00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:34.730
have to know the Bible to know that this person

00:29:34.730 --> 00:29:36.630
is anti -Christ and not God, but you're going

00:29:36.630 --> 00:29:38.309
to be led astray. And they says a lot of people

00:29:38.309 --> 00:29:40.730
will be. And I think that shows how easily we

00:29:40.730 --> 00:29:43.890
can be convinced and changed. Yeah, I don't know,

00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:46.069
man. So sometimes I think about like Nelson Mandela,

00:29:46.089 --> 00:29:48.390
something like that. And this is now we're going

00:29:48.390 --> 00:29:50.930
down crazy rabbit holes here. And I don't necessarily

00:29:50.930 --> 00:29:53.509
believe this, but I'm just going to pose a plot.

00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:55.950
explanation because he was a fairly well -known

00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:58.769
figure and he was in jail for his beliefs and

00:29:58.769 --> 00:30:00.990
what he stood for. What if he did die in the

00:30:00.990 --> 00:30:03.789
80s and the news article came out and they decided

00:30:03.789 --> 00:30:05.329
we had to replace him with somebody who looks

00:30:05.329 --> 00:30:07.049
like him so he can continue his message and was

00:30:07.049 --> 00:30:09.910
convinced people that he didn't die you're misremembering

00:30:09.910 --> 00:30:11.910
this and this other guy can play out whatever

00:30:11.910 --> 00:30:14.630
legacy or whatever his role was in order to keep

00:30:14.630 --> 00:30:16.670
people calm. The other stuff you can even look

00:30:16.670 --> 00:30:18.589
at the internet now. The internet today is so

00:30:18.589 --> 00:30:20.230
much different than the internet was even 10

00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:22.130
years ago. You can go through and scrub whatever

00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:24.059
you want off the internet, you can inject stuff

00:30:24.059 --> 00:30:25.660
in the internet. So if most people get their

00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:27.980
information now from the worldwide web. So if

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:30.079
you want to have people question themselves or

00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.539
question news articles or question history, it

00:30:32.539 --> 00:30:35.000
doesn't take a whole lot of effort, especially

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.920
with AI these days, to go back in and re -edit

00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:39.799
everything to have people see things the way

00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.079
you want them to see it. With the AI bot army,

00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.940
like I think most of our collective unconscious

00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:47.299
anymore is no longer in books. It's no longer

00:30:47.299 --> 00:30:50.380
in telling stories by the fireside or communing

00:30:50.380 --> 00:30:52.539
with our friends and family and learn. in history

00:30:52.539 --> 00:30:54.640
and knowledge. That way, it's going to your computer,

00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:57.309
your phone, typing something in. to the search

00:30:57.309 --> 00:31:00.029
engine and it spits out whatever it spits out

00:31:00.029 --> 00:31:01.970
and most people are going to believe it without

00:31:01.970 --> 00:31:04.809
referencing their memory banks or referencing

00:31:04.809 --> 00:31:07.470
living sources or referencing even books at this

00:31:07.470 --> 00:31:09.670
point. So I guess there's a couple of walk -arounds

00:31:09.670 --> 00:31:12.269
with that. I just think the scary thing is, especially

00:31:12.269 --> 00:31:14.450
with these bots, we're seeing it now and we talk

00:31:14.450 --> 00:31:17.750
about it often. These bots can create videos

00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:19.990
that are getting so good. I think within the

00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:21.490
next year or two, we're not going to be able

00:31:21.490 --> 00:31:23.329
to tell the difference if it's a human, if it's

00:31:23.329 --> 00:31:26.279
AI generated, if it's a bot. It's just. getting

00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.259
wild. You can rewrite all of history just with

00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:31.819
your advanced AI. Yeah. It reminds me of these

00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.759
Reddit forms that I spend time on. And if people

00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.440
can string sentences together, people just assume

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.180
it's AI. A lot of people always say, Oh, thanks

00:31:39.180 --> 00:31:41.400
chat GPT for writing this article for me. And

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.019
it's no, I actually wrote it. I have an advanced

00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:45.640
degree. I'm well educated. I don't write it two

00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.799
seconds on my phone. I try to put a nice piece

00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:50.339
together to educate folks. And it's people are

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:52.180
now are like, if anything's intelligent out there,

00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.859
I just assume AI wrote it because the human now

00:31:54.859 --> 00:31:57.529
can only like misspell sentences and have broken

00:31:57.529 --> 00:32:00.470
grammar. And I think about the Nelson Mandela

00:32:00.470 --> 00:32:02.730
point that you made is there's two takeaways

00:32:02.730 --> 00:32:05.150
there. Could he be replaced to carry his message

00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:07.250
and influence the government and get presidency

00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:09.430
and somebody look absolutely. But the other one

00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:13.390
is that a lot of times a martyr is more influential

00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:16.930
than somebody that dies of old age. Right. So

00:32:16.930 --> 00:32:19.509
perhaps there was a series of things that people

00:32:19.509 --> 00:32:21.390
wanted you to believe that he was martyred for

00:32:21.390 --> 00:32:23.789
the sacrifice for South Africa at that time.

00:32:23.809 --> 00:32:26.130
It's hard to kind of pinpoint. So we've talked

00:32:26.130 --> 00:32:28.890
a lot about the Mandela effect. So if we get

00:32:28.890 --> 00:32:32.630
back to our story, six years before July of 2022,

00:32:32.890 --> 00:32:36.390
before the restart, the skies over Geneva became

00:32:36.390 --> 00:32:39.609
part of CERN's mytho. In June of 2016, a violent

00:32:39.609 --> 00:32:42.490
thunderstorm rolled across western Switzerland,

00:32:42.670 --> 00:32:45.430
throwing jagged bolts of lightning over the region

00:32:45.430 --> 00:32:48.769
and setting the evening sky ablaze with flashes

00:32:48.769 --> 00:32:51.490
of electric blue and deep violet. At that time,

00:32:51.650 --> 00:32:54.119
amateur photographers and commuters caught the

00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.299
spectacle on their cell phones. The twisting

00:32:56.299 --> 00:32:59.779
clouds, the symmetrical rings, and lightning

00:32:59.779 --> 00:33:02.579
that seemed to kind of branch upward rather than

00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:05.859
down. Within hours, those photos were online,

00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.359
and by the next morning, they had gone viral

00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:11.420
with captions like, what portal did CERN just

00:33:11.420 --> 00:33:14.720
open? Conspiracy forums and YouTube channels

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.119
seized on that image almost immediately. Many

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.859
connected them to the experiment known as Awake,

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:22.240
which had recently been in the news for its use

00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.720
of Proton. than the plasma waves, language that

00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.619
sounded to the public air suspiciously like energy

00:33:28.619 --> 00:33:31.779
tunnels or particle shock waves. Videos emerged

00:33:31.779 --> 00:33:34.720
with titles such as the CERN Open Dimensional

00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.599
Gateway over Geneva and Portal Cloud Phenomenon

00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.759
Explained. Dramatic soundtracks were laid under

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.119
the images, often zooming into sections of the

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.279
cloud where faces or vortex -like shapes appear

00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.460
to emerge. And commenters actually claimed see

00:33:52.460 --> 00:33:56.119
eyes, serpents, even angel silhouettes, proof

00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.240
that argued that the collider's energy had interacted

00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.940
with the atmosphere in this kind of unnatural

00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:05.380
way. Over the following days, that imagery really

00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:08.260
spread beyond conspiracy circles into like our

00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:10.980
mainstream culture. Memes appeared on Twitter,

00:34:11.380 --> 00:34:13.960
appearing in the Storm's photos with quotes from

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.099
Stranger Things or Doctors Who, Facebook groups

00:34:17.099 --> 00:34:19.949
titled CERN Watch and Portal. Projects sprung

00:34:19.949 --> 00:34:22.210
up overnight, each with thousands of members

00:34:22.210 --> 00:34:25.090
sharing screenshots of this event. A lot of them

00:34:25.090 --> 00:34:28.210
are saying that this thin veil between the worlds

00:34:28.210 --> 00:34:31.070
was really exposed. Some users even claimed that

00:34:31.070 --> 00:34:34.530
the storm had appeared directly over the LHC's

00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:36.909
buried tunnel. And others swore the locals in

00:34:36.909 --> 00:34:39.590
Geneva reported hearing low rumbles or filling

00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:43.210
this odd electromagnetic pulse through the sky.

00:34:43.309 --> 00:34:45.670
For many believers that storm really became like

00:34:45.670 --> 00:34:48.090
this perfect symbol. Nature itself were acting

00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:51.659
to human interference with this kind of fundamental

00:34:51.659 --> 00:34:56.079
forces of the universe. To this day, that portal

00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.619
cloud remains one of the most enduring pieces

00:34:58.619 --> 00:35:01.460
of visual evidence of that certain conspiracy

00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:04.360
culture. And a lot of connecting back to like

00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.960
they were seeing this portal being created or

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.440
this black hole developing almost because they

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.300
never seen anything like this. They were seeing

00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:14.960
sky lightning. I even saw sky lightning on a

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.820
New York post article that my wife shared. with

00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:21.159
me today and it is an absolutely spectacular,

00:35:21.619 --> 00:35:24.239
beautiful thing. That's really hard to pinpoint

00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.119
that it's a natural phenomenon perhaps, but it

00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.039
looks supernatural when you witness it. And a

00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.119
lot of people connect that back to the black

00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.440
hole, which ultimately caused the Mandela effect

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.800
as well. So I thought that was interesting that

00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.739
we do see some conspiratorial evidence in reference

00:35:41.739 --> 00:35:43.980
to what we're talking about today and where people

00:35:43.980 --> 00:35:46.380
are talking about the veil being lifted or the

00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:48.260
world being. altered because of something they're

00:35:48.260 --> 00:35:50.659
doing over there. I remember seeing, I think

00:35:50.659 --> 00:35:52.239
this is what you're talking about. They look

00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.760
like odd spirals in the sky. Is that what you're

00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:56.440
referring to or is it something different? Yeah,

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.300
there's a lot of photographs of that and just

00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:01.539
like this crazy lightning and people even like

00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:04.219
saying that these weird cloud shapes were angel

00:36:04.219 --> 00:36:06.599
and demon shaped and eyes and all this weird

00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.420
stuff that was just in rapid succession. Yeah.

00:36:09.420 --> 00:36:11.619
I know every time one of those weird kind of

00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:14.119
spiral type things in the sky, people are always

00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.230
pointing to CERN or some of these other particle

00:36:17.230 --> 00:36:19.250
colliders. Like I said, there's seven around

00:36:19.250 --> 00:36:23.789
the world. So it's interesting. Again, I didn't

00:36:23.789 --> 00:36:26.230
do a ton of research into that. I think there

00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:29.639
are some... possible explanations for that. A

00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.099
lot of people actually blame Elon Musk and his

00:36:32.099 --> 00:36:34.239
rockets for that type of stuff. I know there

00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.300
was one launch of a rocket that when it cleared

00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:40.059
the atmosphere, it did leave some sort of crazy

00:36:40.059 --> 00:36:42.860
looking, oddly symmetrical spiral in the sky,

00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.139
which to me doesn't make a lot of sense that

00:36:45.139 --> 00:36:47.440
it would have some sort of symmetry to it. It

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:48.699
almost kind of looked like an imprint in the

00:36:48.699 --> 00:36:50.980
sky that took hours to dissipate. Like nature,

00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.579
I know nature can form stuff in symmetrical patterns,

00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.760
but you really don't see symmetry in the atmosphere

00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.530
because of the winds and the shit. So, I think

00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:01.210
that explanation as to what that could be is

00:37:01.210 --> 00:37:04.150
not something man -made in terms of rocketry

00:37:04.150 --> 00:37:06.750
leaving that imprint. I definitely think it could

00:37:06.750 --> 00:37:09.329
be man -made in terms of some sort of energy

00:37:09.329 --> 00:37:12.329
being shot into the sky. But another interesting

00:37:12.329 --> 00:37:14.969
theory I ran across, and I don't think this one

00:37:14.969 --> 00:37:17.519
gets too crazy. But you ever hear of the time

00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:19.920
traveler sabotage theory? It's an interesting,

00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:22.159
like philosophical kind of speculative idea.

00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:25.639
It's not as scientifically accepted, but scientists

00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.039
did reference it in the paper. And the long story

00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.219
short, I don't want to bore you with a scientific

00:37:31.219 --> 00:37:33.619
paper and read it. So I'll just summarize it.

00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:36.000
So the Large Hadron Collider experienced a ton

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.659
of delays, a ton of hiccups, ton of glitches

00:37:38.659 --> 00:37:40.940
during its early commissioning. And for example,

00:37:40.940 --> 00:37:43.400
in 2008, the Collider had a significant malfunction

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.079
in a certain sector due to failure and these

00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.380
two scientists named Nielsen and I'm gonna butcher

00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:52.920
his name but Neil Mia wrote a theoretical paper

00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.139
suggesting that if people in the future didn't

00:37:56.139 --> 00:37:59.500
want a Higgs producing event to happen then the

00:37:59.500 --> 00:38:02.900
probability of it actually working would be seriously

00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:05.460
decreased. So essentially what they're paper

00:38:05.460 --> 00:38:07.739
proposed. And again, and this is a scientific

00:38:07.739 --> 00:38:11.400
paper, it works on the theory of relativity and

00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.000
time travel. So again, what it's suggesting is

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.920
that someone in the future sees that a certain

00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.420
experiment will have catastrophic consequences,

00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.099
that something or someone from the future might

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:24.599
do something to sabotage it in the past. So it's

00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.320
called the time traveler sabotage. So essentially

00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.199
boiling it down, it's saying that if someone

00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.360
has a time travel machine in the future, whenever

00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:37.300
we act it now or a large collider and they pick

00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:40.639
up some of these energy disturbances, they can

00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:43.559
go back and purposely sabotage the experiment.

00:38:43.789 --> 00:38:45.989
if it's not time for us to have it. I don't buy

00:38:45.989 --> 00:38:47.829
into that theory. I think it's theoretically

00:38:47.829 --> 00:38:51.070
fun to think about. But again, now the collider

00:38:51.070 --> 00:38:52.949
works. So I don't know what happened between

00:38:52.949 --> 00:38:56.329
2008 and 2025, because apparently people from

00:38:56.329 --> 00:39:00.909
the future stop coming back. Actually, time travel

00:39:00.909 --> 00:39:03.590
is really connected to a lot of the theories

00:39:03.590 --> 00:39:05.889
that are floating around it. Have you heard the

00:39:05.889 --> 00:39:09.429
connection between 3I Atlas and time travel and

00:39:09.429 --> 00:39:12.329
obviously the HCL? I heard some crazy remote

00:39:12.329 --> 00:39:14.829
views. spew some story about Three Eye Atlas

00:39:14.829 --> 00:39:17.949
and how he communicated with the people on board,

00:39:18.329 --> 00:39:20.829
essentially telling him that, yeah, we're nice

00:39:20.829 --> 00:39:22.750
and we're coming there for peaceful reasons.

00:39:23.349 --> 00:39:25.590
I think remote viewing is a bunch of hogwash.

00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:27.800
too, but go ahead and tell me your story. Yeah,

00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.579
I agree with you. So just to backtrack a little

00:39:30.579 --> 00:39:34.159
bit for our listeners, when the astronomers spotted

00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.300
this object racing across the southern sky in

00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:40.619
July of 25, they named it 3I Atlas, the third

00:39:40.619 --> 00:39:43.420
confirmed interstellar visitor en route to our

00:39:43.420 --> 00:39:46.280
solar system. To this scientific community, it

00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.519
was obviously a comet and another messenger from

00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.920
the deep unknown, kind of offering a chance to

00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.139
study the material forged around another star.

00:39:53.380 --> 00:39:56.059
But beyond those observations, the The name really

00:39:56.059 --> 00:39:58.760
set off this tremor in collective imaginations.

00:39:58.980 --> 00:40:02.619
The word atlas instantly connected this cosmic

00:40:02.619 --> 00:40:05.659
wanderer to another place that already carried

00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:08.500
that mythic weight. The tunnels beneath Geneva,

00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.800
where CERN's atlas detector hums in the darkness,

00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.360
really studying collisions so violent they mimic

00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.780
the birth of the universe. Two instruments worlds

00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:19.480
apart suddenly shared a name. And in the language

00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.059
of modern myth, that was enough to really spark

00:40:22.059 --> 00:40:27.050
the fire online. The coincidence became a revelation.

00:40:27.289 --> 00:40:30.789
The ATLAS telescope that discovered the object

00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.409
looks upward, scanning for dangers from heavens.

00:40:33.510 --> 00:40:37.210
The ATLAS detector at CERN looks downwards into

00:40:37.210 --> 00:40:41.010
the invisible architecture of matter. One surveys

00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:43.869
the infinite and the other recreates it. And

00:40:43.869 --> 00:40:46.750
then there was the number 3i, the third interstellar

00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:50.289
object. The number 3, already heavy with symbolic

00:40:50.289 --> 00:40:53.879
gravity in CERN folklore, runs through the trans...

00:40:53.550 --> 00:40:56.190
the three circles of the collider, that really

00:40:56.190 --> 00:40:58.909
echoed from space. For those inclined towards

00:40:58.909 --> 00:41:02.010
pattern and parallels were irresistible. A third

00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:04.670
visitor from the stars discovered by Atlas in

00:41:04.670 --> 00:41:07.929
the same year Stern's Atlas experiment prepared

00:41:07.929 --> 00:41:11.469
for new upgrades. As above, so below the caption

00:41:11.469 --> 00:41:14.230
read. And the cosmic and the subterranean were

00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:18.010
really this dialogue again. Now in the Reddit

00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:20.690
communities and on Twitter, what people were

00:41:20.690 --> 00:41:22.829
saying is they were obviously observing these.

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.139
consistencies with everything with the name of

00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:28.219
Atlas in it. And a lot of conjecture online stated

00:41:28.219 --> 00:41:30.980
that we're going to have this kind of impossible

00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:34.780
event that's going to occur late in 2025. And

00:41:34.780 --> 00:41:38.280
they connected it back to the Hydron Collider

00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.139
creating this portal for time travel. And what

00:41:41.139 --> 00:41:43.500
they're thinking is that because of this portal,

00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.139
people were transported into the future. And

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:48.119
now they know this horrible event's going to

00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.860
occur and they're traveling back to our universe

00:41:50.860 --> 00:41:54.719
from this. an asteroid -shaped spaceship to warn

00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.840
us about what's going to happen. And they start

00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.440
looking into this numerology and all this weird

00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.360
stuff, but I do find it ironic that it's Atlas

00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.059
in the sky, Atlas below, like rare phenomenon.

00:42:06.300 --> 00:42:08.820
It all seems pretty weird. I don't know that

00:42:08.820 --> 00:42:10.760
I buy it, that we're creating these parallel

00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:13.099
universes, though I think there's potential that

00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:15.579
when we get into Revelations that we could open

00:42:15.579 --> 00:42:17.960
this portal to hell. And I think we'll get into

00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.320
some of those more Revelation heavy ideologies.

00:42:21.190 --> 00:42:23.210
using a little bit, but I thought it was pretty

00:42:23.210 --> 00:42:25.030
interesting because you were talking about time

00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:27.010
travel that they're connecting it to us that

00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:28.889
we're all seeing today. And then people are trying

00:42:28.889 --> 00:42:31.960
to study. Yeah, I think this is kind of a. good

00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.820
transition into some of the occult aspects of

00:42:34.820 --> 00:42:38.019
CERN. So I don't know if you saw the human sacrifice

00:42:38.019 --> 00:42:40.639
video that they did. They claim it was a prank,

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.599
but the backstory is, it very well could be a

00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.139
prank. I'm not trying to make a mountain out

00:42:45.139 --> 00:42:47.500
of a molehill here. But of course, if somebody

00:42:47.500 --> 00:42:50.760
posts a video of some sort of human sacrifice

00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.019
ritual, what are you going to say? You're going

00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:54.679
to admit to it? But I'll have to try to find

00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.699
it so we can put it in the show notes. But it's

00:42:56.699 --> 00:42:59.500
an interesting watch. And prank or not, It's

00:42:59.500 --> 00:43:03.079
still a little bizarre that somebody would, of

00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.599
all places, choose a large international organization

00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.219
to do a prank video. And let's just say it is

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:11.019
a prank. What are they trying to communicate

00:43:11.019 --> 00:43:14.780
with that? Are they trying to go viral and are

00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:17.320
they trying to send a message real or not real?

00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.079
It seems like a weird way to communicate regardless

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.800
of the validity of the video. Have you had a

00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:24.920
chance to check that one? I did. I remember Seren

00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.860
screaming unauthorized prank that occurred on

00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:30.219
our grounds. What I find interesting is when

00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:33.219
this occurred, it occurred in 2016. And if we

00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:35.019
backtrack a little bit, that was that storm I

00:43:35.019 --> 00:43:36.980
was talking about. It occurred the same year

00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:38.699
where everybody was taking pictures of it. I

00:43:38.699 --> 00:43:41.699
wonder if those two events are linked up. I think

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:43.260
they even admit it, and correct me if I'm wrong,

00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:44.880
but I think they even admit it, the prank did

00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.260
occur on certain grounds where they were filming

00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:51.670
this video. which I find really odd because of

00:43:51.670 --> 00:43:54.389
the amount of security clearances that you have

00:43:54.389 --> 00:43:57.309
to have to be filming stuff and posting it online.

00:43:57.449 --> 00:44:00.050
That's going to the extreme. And not that I've

00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:02.110
seen the full video, I've only seen clips of

00:44:02.110 --> 00:44:04.650
it, but I wonder if some people could potentially

00:44:04.650 --> 00:44:06.690
go to jail for it, right? Because they're posting

00:44:06.690 --> 00:44:09.269
classified information for the public to see.

00:44:09.530 --> 00:44:12.650
So with that in count, I wonder what's really

00:44:12.650 --> 00:44:14.989
going on there. And I think the bigger thing

00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:17.650
is, have you heard that they have the Shiva statue?

00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.559
there? Yeah, and that whole ceremony is freaky,

00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.280
bro. Have you seen that video? It's mind blowing.

00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:26.780
Even before really that viral sacrifice video

00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:31.119
that presence of the bronze Shiva statue on CERN's

00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.300
main campus had really already become this lightning

00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:38.300
rod of speculation. The statue stands just outside

00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:40.840
one of the main research buildings and it's nearly

00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.340
seven feet. tall, encircled by a ring of flame,

00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.880
depicting Shiva mid -dance in the eternal cycle

00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.219
of creation and destruction. To visitors, it's

00:44:51.219 --> 00:44:53.340
a striking piece of art, and to the global online

00:44:53.340 --> 00:44:55.619
audience that already viewed CERN with suspicion,

00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.780
it really became something else entirely. The

00:44:58.780 --> 00:45:01.960
statue's timing and location made it ripe for

00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.699
misinterpretation. After all, here we are, the

00:45:04.699 --> 00:45:07.119
world's most powerful machine for probing the

00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.820
origins of the universe and standing before it,

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.090
the god who dances. symbolizes the end and rebirth

00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:17.369
of all existence. Officially, the statue was

00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:21.030
presented to CERN in 24 as a gift from India,

00:45:21.150 --> 00:45:24.369
recognizing the decades of scientific collaboration.

00:45:24.769 --> 00:45:28.130
And a plaque nearby describes Shiva's dance as

00:45:28.130 --> 00:45:31.969
a metaphor of rhythmic interplay of matter and

00:45:31.969 --> 00:45:35.550
energy, the same forces physicists study inside

00:45:35.550 --> 00:45:38.269
the collider. But the conspiracy communities

00:45:38.269 --> 00:45:41.210
and that poetic comparison reads as a confession.

00:45:41.269 --> 00:45:44.869
They argue that CERN's research invokes Shiva's

00:45:44.869 --> 00:45:47.989
dance, not as a metaphor, but as this ritual

00:45:47.989 --> 00:45:51.170
performing acts of creation and destruction through

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:55.210
these high energy collisions. And in their retelling,

00:45:55.449 --> 00:45:58.730
Shiva is not simply a cultural symbol. He's the

00:45:58.730 --> 00:46:02.150
patron deity of this secret order of physicists

00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:06.570
attempting really to rewrite the universe's blueprint.

00:46:06.730 --> 00:46:09.110
But the symbolism doesn't really end with the

00:46:09.110 --> 00:46:12.219
statue. You seen the CERN logo itself? Yeah,

00:46:12.219 --> 00:46:15.500
it looks like a 666. Exactly. It has becoming

00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:18.199
this reoccurring fixation in these narratives.

00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:22.199
It composes of these overlapping circular lines,

00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.820
which represent accelerator rings and beam paths.

00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.800
And the design was meant to be this simple technical

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.739
motif, yet online many claim to see something

00:46:31.739 --> 00:46:34.360
darker within its curves. And I do too, right?

00:46:34.380 --> 00:46:37.800
These six shaped swirls that when viewed in a

00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.539
certain way resemble 666 and the biblical number

00:46:41.539 --> 00:46:44.179
of the beast. And these YouTube breakdowns that

00:46:44.179 --> 00:46:47.260
I watched overly red circles and the arrows in

00:46:47.260 --> 00:46:50.360
the logo insisting that it designs and codes

00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.239
really this allegiance to the occult or the demonic

00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.539
forces. The ideal that an organization devoted

00:46:56.539 --> 00:46:59.059
to unlocking the secrets of the universe would

00:46:59.059 --> 00:47:02.539
embed in this apocalyptic numerology an emblem

00:47:02.539 --> 00:47:05.880
feels to many believers like deliberate symbolism

00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.460
hiding in plain sight. I think even the name

00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.760
The names of some experiments are really woven

00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.619
in that mythic tapestry as well. So first point,

00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.659
I think it's bizarre that in a Christianized

00:47:16.659 --> 00:47:19.480
nation of Switzerland and France, the collider

00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.659
goes through both countries, that you choose

00:47:21.659 --> 00:47:25.420
to use a paganistic occult deity of the Hindus,

00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.820
which have, I've lost count. I think they have

00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:30.800
millions of gods. So they choose the god of creation

00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.619
and destruction as their, I mean, I don't want

00:47:33.619 --> 00:47:35.900
to call it their mascot, but it may as well be

00:47:35.900 --> 00:47:38.289
if it's sitting in the front of your of your

00:47:38.289 --> 00:47:44.289
building. And if you watch the, I guess the revealing

00:47:44.289 --> 00:47:46.409
of the statue, it looks like there's a ritual

00:47:46.409 --> 00:47:48.929
going on around the statue as a revealing it.

00:47:49.050 --> 00:47:51.590
These people are in like hoods, like robes, like

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:54.389
very occult looking type. garb and they're doing

00:47:54.389 --> 00:47:57.210
this very ritualistic dance around it. Like when

00:47:57.210 --> 00:47:59.710
I watched that video, my spirit was hanging on

00:47:59.710 --> 00:48:02.949
the radar. What the heck is this? It's an odd

00:48:02.949 --> 00:48:05.369
watch, but out of all the things you can put

00:48:05.369 --> 00:48:07.070
in front of your building and a lot of these

00:48:07.070 --> 00:48:10.690
scientists claim to be agnostic or to be atheist.

00:48:10.869 --> 00:48:12.750
If you're not going to put something religious

00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:15.489
there, that's not Christianized because of your

00:48:15.489 --> 00:48:17.940
region. Wouldn't it make more sense to put something

00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:19.980
that's maybe, I don't know, secular, something

00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:22.079
that has nothing to do with any sort of deity?

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.139
It's just, it's just, it's just really odd to

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:26.280
me. And this kind of goes back in the past. A

00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.199
lot of scientists in the 1900s, a lot of them

00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.380
were occultists, like Jack Parsons, the head

00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:34.280
of the jet propulsion labs. Big occultist, follower

00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.579
of Aleister Crowley. Pretty, I think he actually

00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:39.380
co -wrote a book with the guy that founded Scientology,

00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.179
L. Ron Hubbard. And a ton of scientists back

00:48:42.179 --> 00:48:45.119
in that era were big believers of Gnosticism

00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.519
and the occult. Like they believed, they don't

00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:49.099
want you to believe it. They want you to not

00:48:49.099 --> 00:48:50.659
to believe in anything. They don't want you to

00:48:50.659 --> 00:48:52.159
believe in Jesus. They don't want you to believe

00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.900
in God. But in the back, a lot of their theories

00:48:54.900 --> 00:48:57.480
and a lot of their practices were shrouded in

00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.599
mystery and they were obsessed with the occult.

00:48:59.820 --> 00:49:02.659
Like Jack Parsons was obsessed with summoning

00:49:02.659 --> 00:49:05.699
an entity. And this is the guy leading a rocketry

00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:07.719
program. And I don't think that's really changed

00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.320
any different today. I think a lot of these schools

00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.340
that you go to, I think once you get up to the

00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:14.300
higher level, you get to like your masters and

00:49:14.300 --> 00:49:16.840
your doctorate. you go through that second tier,

00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.559
third tier education system, I think they reveal

00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.159
a lot of the more spiritual mysteries and they

00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.099
guide you down a different path. I think Carl

00:49:24.099 --> 00:49:27.019
Jung, one of the big psychotherapists of the

00:49:27.019 --> 00:49:30.280
18th and 19th century, he claimed that 80 % of

00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.860
your thoughts aren't from you, they're from outside

00:49:32.860 --> 00:49:35.380
entities. And I just think it's just, it hearkens

00:49:35.380 --> 00:49:37.860
back to this whole spiritual warfare thing. We're

00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:40.219
always under the influence of something. Our

00:49:40.219 --> 00:49:43.420
visual spectrum, I think only picks up like point.

00:49:43.659 --> 00:49:45.699
three, five percent. I could get that number

00:49:45.699 --> 00:49:48.440
wrong of the actual electromagnetic spectrum.

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.280
That's 99. whatever percent of stuff we can't

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.559
even see because we as humans are just, we just,

00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:56.400
we live on such a narrow band of not only sight,

00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:59.800
but sound and even what we can experience outside

00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.800
of us. But these guys were a lot of these scientists

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.670
are big into the occult and they deep dive in

00:50:05.670 --> 00:50:07.469
these mysteries because I think part of it is

00:50:07.469 --> 00:50:09.349
they want power and part of it, they really want

00:50:09.349 --> 00:50:11.730
the knowledge. And I think the deeper you get

00:50:11.730 --> 00:50:14.050
into physics, the more it proves God's existence,

00:50:14.309 --> 00:50:17.030
it proves how the universe was formed. And now

00:50:17.030 --> 00:50:19.150
there was a time, especially when we were growing

00:50:19.150 --> 00:50:21.869
up, if scientists believed in God, it was a one

00:50:21.869 --> 00:50:25.269
-off kind of outlier. Now 99 .9 % of them believe

00:50:25.269 --> 00:50:27.730
in God. They debate who it is and what it is.

00:50:27.909 --> 00:50:31.289
But the consensus is that this creation that

00:50:31.289 --> 00:50:33.110
we live in could not have happened by accident.

00:50:34.420 --> 00:50:37.639
statue of Jezebel standing in front of the UN

00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.260
where a lot of people call it the New World Order,

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.960
where I believe they have 57 member states or

00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.840
57 countries that said before, don't sit right

00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.280
with you. It feels a little odd. Well, look at

00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.539
the Statue of Liberty. They try to tell you it's

00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:53.059
a woman. It looks like a very androgynous face.

00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:55.119
You can't really tell the body structure because

00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.260
it's draped in a robe. It's a replication of

00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:00.340
Lucifer the Lightbearer, a torch in the air.

00:51:00.659 --> 00:51:02.960
Around one of his feet, there's a broken chain,

00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:05.039
broken shack. It doesn't look like a woman to

00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:06.699
me. When I was little, I just accepted that's

00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:08.400
a strange looking woman. But the more you look

00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.480
at it, the more it looks like a dude. And I think

00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.820
it's just, it's a statue made in homage to the

00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:16.079
evil one. Yeah. It's always interesting to me

00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.480
because I've had a lot of conversations and at

00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.820
the end of the day, we all believe in miracles.

00:51:21.019 --> 00:51:23.460
No matter who you are, you believe in some type

00:51:23.460 --> 00:51:27.500
of miracle. The agnostics and those with no faith,

00:51:27.619 --> 00:51:29.900
they still believe in one miracle, the big bang.

00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:31.679
That a big bang occurred and all of a sudden,

00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:34.599
somehow we got all this stuff on earth with organic

00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.679
life and humans and animals and trees and water

00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.500
and air. And it's rare because obviously we haven't

00:51:40.500 --> 00:51:42.800
discovered it ever again. And I just almost wonder

00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.739
like, it must take more faith to believe in that

00:51:45.739 --> 00:51:48.340
garbage than it does just Jesus. Because now

00:51:48.340 --> 00:51:50.519
we're talking about somebody that sacrificed

00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.539
their life for you, that built a kingdom, that

00:51:52.539 --> 00:51:54.960
this is by design. And I think from a rational

00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:57.880
perspective, it's easier to believe than just

00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.639
one miracle occurring randomly. And I remember

00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.329
talking to some friends that weren't Christians

00:52:03.329 --> 00:52:05.849
and had no faith. And they go, but what if you're

00:52:05.849 --> 00:52:08.739
wrong? That I'm in the same damn boat you already

00:52:08.739 --> 00:52:10.860
are, right? That I'm not going to know that I'm

00:52:10.860 --> 00:52:12.960
dead and that'll be it. I won't know I'm wrong,

00:52:13.099 --> 00:52:15.179
but until then I will live a good life because

00:52:15.179 --> 00:52:17.340
I'm trying my best to follow the teachings of

00:52:17.340 --> 00:52:20.179
Jesus. And if I'm right, which I believe I am,

00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:22.360
then I'm in a whole lot better place, right?

00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.900
At the end of times, because I'm going to go

00:52:23.900 --> 00:52:25.940
to the kingdom of heaven and not fall down to

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.860
the kingdom of hell. Yeah. These statues and

00:52:28.860 --> 00:52:31.699
idols that we set up before ourselves are always

00:52:31.699 --> 00:52:34.579
weird. It's like the bowl of Baal, right? That

00:52:34.579 --> 00:52:36.699
people worshiped and I don't know. it sets a

00:52:36.699 --> 00:52:38.659
little bit uneasy with me. And I've wondered

00:52:38.659 --> 00:52:42.059
that for perhaps 20 or 30 years of about the

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:44.260
UN, a lot of people called it the new world order

00:52:44.260 --> 00:52:45.960
or they thought it was going to be the new world

00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.920
order at that time. And a lot of people were

00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.139
scared of it. Yeah. So I know there's been some

00:52:50.139 --> 00:52:53.179
pretty, pretty, I use this term loosely, outlandish

00:52:53.179 --> 00:52:56.320
conspiracy theories about One of the main reasons

00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.500
that CERN was created was to open the door to

00:52:59.500 --> 00:53:02.820
the abyss. So essentially what people claim is

00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.360
that through smashing these particles together,

00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.880
they can open a door to unleash the 200 fallen

00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.639
angels out of the abyss that got locked down

00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.460
after the flood. They got to get out somehow

00:53:11.460 --> 00:53:13.559
because according to the Bible, once the Euphrates

00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.260
river dries up, and I don't think CERN's going

00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:17.239
to let them in, I really think there's prophecy

00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:19.340
that has to happen before they are unleashed.

00:53:19.739 --> 00:53:21.780
The Euphrates is getting pretty low, which is

00:53:21.780 --> 00:53:25.500
scary, but there are physical natural signs that

00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:27.320
have to happen before that's allowed. But it

00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:28.920
doesn't mean that they can't, again, we're getting

00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:30.960
fantastical and conspiratorial here, but you

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.119
can draw the conclusion that just because they

00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:34.760
can't let them out doesn't mean they can't communicate

00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:36.780
with them. Yeah, no, it's a good point. And I

00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:39.440
think a lot of it comes down to anti -matter,

00:53:39.659 --> 00:53:43.099
that kind of strange mirror version of the ordinary

00:53:43.099 --> 00:53:46.219
manner that annihilates upon contact with its

00:53:46.219 --> 00:53:48.820
opposite. And what I found in my research is

00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:52.780
in physics, anti -matter isn't perhaps evil or

00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:55.739
spiritual. it's simply a matter when reversed

00:53:55.739 --> 00:53:58.000
charged. When the online imagination has become

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.659
really the symbol of the ultimate forbidden energy

00:54:00.659 --> 00:54:03.380
or the literal power of destruction harnessed

00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:06.840
by scientists who may or perhaps may not fully

00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.820
understand that what they're playing with. For

00:54:09.820 --> 00:54:13.079
many believers that anti -matter is the dark

00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.099
fuel of syrup. Proof that the organization is

00:54:16.099 --> 00:54:19.719
really experimenting with forces capable of rewriting

00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:23.210
the laws of creation itself. The real war basis

00:54:23.210 --> 00:54:27.110
for this legend traces back to the anti -proton

00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:30.130
deaccelerator at CERN, a facility that creates

00:54:30.130 --> 00:54:34.050
these and studies these small quantities of antimatter.

00:54:34.190 --> 00:54:38.070
In 2010, researchers from the Alpha collaboration

00:54:38.070 --> 00:54:41.909
achieved a milestone by trapping this anti -hydrogen

00:54:41.909 --> 00:54:44.230
atoms for the first time and really holding them

00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:47.289
in these magnetic cages long enough to study

00:54:47.289 --> 00:54:50.730
their properties. And for physicists, this was

00:54:50.730 --> 00:54:52.989
really a groundbreaking achievement, opening

00:54:52.989 --> 00:54:55.590
the door to deeper understanding to why the universe

00:54:55.590 --> 00:54:58.989
contains more matter than anti -matter. But for

00:54:58.989 --> 00:55:01.949
people like, perhaps Oz, that announcement sounded

00:55:01.949 --> 00:55:05.530
like the unveiling of a weapon or a ritual tool.

00:55:05.750 --> 00:55:08.650
They're storing anti -matter underground. One

00:55:08.650 --> 00:55:11.809
popular blog that I found was stated like, why

00:55:11.809 --> 00:55:14.750
would anyone need to store annihilation unless

00:55:14.750 --> 00:55:17.190
they intended to use it? And you started seeing

00:55:17.190 --> 00:55:20.349
a lot of this anti -matter stuff pop up in the

00:55:20.349 --> 00:55:24.900
broader circle. myths. Some claimed it was stockpiled

00:55:24.900 --> 00:55:27.900
as this form of energy source for dimensional

00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:31.599
travel or this interdimensional beings. Others

00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.739
said it was connected to biblical prophecy, an

00:55:34.739 --> 00:55:37.360
inversion of creation energy that could bring

00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:41.320
about the apocalypse. Theologians with kind of

00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.420
the conspirator bent began drawing parallels

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:47.860
between CERN's anti -matter experiments and referencing

00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:50.079
the bottomless pit in the book of Revelation.

00:55:50.059 --> 00:55:53.260
And on YouTube videos that I found with titles

00:55:53.260 --> 00:55:55.960
like Sauron playing God with the power of angels

00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.860
and demons, and it racked up millions of views

00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:02.039
arguing that anti -matter was the spiritual energy,

00:56:02.179 --> 00:56:05.159
the essence of angels that have fallen from grace

00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.139
and now being resurrected through this technology.

00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.119
The myth really deepened when quotes attributed

00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:15.119
to scientists paired with dramatic imagery, vials

00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.900
of glowing plasma, stormy skies, the Shiva statue

00:56:18.900 --> 00:56:21.760
that we talked about all spending under these

00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.019
kind of like strobe lights. And some creators

00:56:24.019 --> 00:56:27.500
suggested that antimatter could affect consciousness,

00:56:27.739 --> 00:56:30.500
erasing the boundary between the physical and

00:56:30.500 --> 00:56:33.139
the spiritual realms. Others tied it to the ideal

00:56:33.139 --> 00:56:36.139
of the soul harvesting, claiming Cern's collisions

00:56:36.139 --> 00:56:39.300
really released this burst of energy capable

00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:42.460
of distorting the human psyche. Even mainstream

00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:45.559
science outlets, when describing antimatter's

00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:48.179
potential, couldn't really help but sound poetic.

00:56:48.489 --> 00:56:51.070
Antimatter, after all, is the opposite of everything

00:56:51.070 --> 00:56:54.510
that we know today. Pure energy trapped in perfect

00:56:54.510 --> 00:56:57.329
symmetry, waiting to meet its mirror and vanish

00:56:57.329 --> 00:57:01.369
in light. By 2015, that myth had really merged

00:57:01.369 --> 00:57:04.409
with these older apocalyptic narratives. A now

00:57:04.409 --> 00:57:07.610
famous viral post claimed that CERN has created

00:57:07.610 --> 00:57:10.789
a drop of antimatter so powerful, it could destroy

00:57:10.789 --> 00:57:13.909
the planet if it excreted. In reality, the amount

00:57:13.909 --> 00:57:16.880
produced in CERN is really small, but that didn't

00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.440
really matter when we start talking about stories

00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.420
and the fantastical. I think what makes this

00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.139
strand of CERN legend so compelling is that it

00:57:26.139 --> 00:57:29.340
blurs the boundaries between fact and symbolism.

00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:32.340
And antimatter is real. It does annihilate matter

00:57:32.340 --> 00:57:35.340
on contact. It is stored, studied, and manipulated

00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:38.820
at CERN. That kind of leap from laboratory truth

00:57:38.820 --> 00:57:41.760
to this fear is a very short one in my mind.

00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.880
And the language of annihilation writes its own

00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.150
myth. And in CERN there, of antimatter becomes

00:57:47.150 --> 00:57:49.650
the ultimate kind of metaphor between these two

00:57:49.650 --> 00:57:52.730
worlds and what we're seeing in these portals.

00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:55.309
So scary stuff. Yeah, I think it would be a bit

00:57:55.309 --> 00:57:57.750
remiss if we didn't talk about similar whistleblowers.

00:57:57.949 --> 00:58:00.650
So the most prominent whistleblower is cited

00:58:00.650 --> 00:58:05.329
as Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger. So this person was

00:58:05.329 --> 00:58:09.090
a UNWHO consultant with over 30 years of international

00:58:09.090 --> 00:58:11.869
health policy experience. They conducted interviews

00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:16.250
between 2022 and 2025. She claims to have dined

00:58:16.250 --> 00:58:19.670
privately with two unnamed CERN physicists, Portugal,

00:58:19.829 --> 00:58:23.230
who confided in her about a secret radial nuclear

00:58:23.230 --> 00:58:25.969
program beneath CERN. According to her, they

00:58:25.969 --> 00:58:29.050
described a physical portal or door at CERN's

00:58:29.050 --> 00:58:33.070
base. It was only accessible via subatomic experiences

00:58:33.070 --> 00:58:35.360
through which beams from other dimensions entered

00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.260
our world and exited our world. She alleges there

00:58:38.260 --> 00:58:40.840
are 17 different dimensions of reality accessed

00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.840
via the LHC's Boson experiments. And these entities

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:48.079
have manifested twice. Once an entity emerged

00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.480
and sat at the table during a meeting, the second

00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.920
time it came out and took a scar from a participant

00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.900
before vanishing. So apparently this thing was

00:58:54.900 --> 00:58:57.239
cold and hell, I don't know. But Suckleberg kind

00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.099
of frames this as part of a covert nuclear weapons

00:59:00.099 --> 00:59:02.360
program, warning of risks like hell on earth

00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.170
from any matter. or strangulate production entices

00:59:06.170 --> 00:59:09.550
to. global control agendas. So interesting story.

00:59:09.929 --> 00:59:12.869
This isn't your run of a mill person on X or

00:59:12.869 --> 00:59:15.650
Instagram making these outlandish claims. This

00:59:15.650 --> 00:59:18.469
obviously she's a doctor and with 30 years of

00:59:18.469 --> 00:59:21.269
experience with the UN and WHO gives us some

00:59:21.269 --> 00:59:23.829
credibility in my mind. Again, interesting story.

00:59:23.869 --> 00:59:26.449
I don't know why you'd risk your reputation to

00:59:26.449 --> 00:59:28.389
bring that out there if you didn't think it was

00:59:28.389 --> 00:59:29.829
true yourself. Whether or not the people you're

00:59:29.829 --> 00:59:31.809
interviewing are messing with you or not, their

00:59:31.809 --> 00:59:34.289
names weren't given. There's also another interesting

00:59:34.289 --> 00:59:38.639
fella named Anthony He's a self -described researcher

00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.539
and author on biblical prophecy and quantum physics.

00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:43.940
Patch claims CERN now admits to communicating

00:59:43.940 --> 00:59:46.260
with entities from the other side via portals.

00:59:46.420 --> 00:59:49.840
Obviously this is denied by CERN, but he links

00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:53.219
this kind of transhumanism and time prophecies

00:59:53.219 --> 00:59:56.840
alleging that the Collider summons Lovecraftian

00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.400
Great Old Ones rather than demons. What that

00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.500
means, I don't know. And he, again, in 2025 of

01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:06.880
this year, he connects this. to 3i Atlas suggesting

01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.420
the portals facilitate contact with the occupants.

01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.480
Some other interesting claims from Anthony is

01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.900
that he claims to have analyzed several leaked

01:00:14.900 --> 01:00:17.239
CERN documents and spoke with several unnamed

01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:20.800
physicists within CERN, alleging that they purposely

01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.699
create these stable portals for these inter -dimensional

01:00:23.699 --> 01:00:26.300
entities to contact and have conversations with.

01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:29.400
He claims the portal weakens the dimensional

01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.059
barrier allowing these entities to influence

01:00:32.059 --> 01:00:34.760
human affairs via electromagnetic anomalies.

01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.380
Again, he linked CERN with 3I Atlas, claiming

01:00:37.380 --> 01:00:41.119
experiments contacted the occupants. applying

01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.619
that not only are they talking to someone in

01:00:43.619 --> 01:00:45.739
a different dimension, these great old ones,

01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.619
quote unquote, but they can also use CERN as

01:00:47.619 --> 01:00:50.639
a kind of a conduit for non -terrestrial intelligence,

01:00:50.820 --> 01:00:53.599
AKA aliens. And he also cited the Shiva statue

01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.059
as ritual symbolism and hidden data and public

01:00:56.059 --> 01:00:58.260
logs showing anomalous oscillations matching

01:00:58.260 --> 01:01:00.780
ancient text. Again, like I said, that ritual

01:01:00.780 --> 01:01:02.980
with the unveiling of the statue was bizarre

01:01:02.980 --> 01:01:05.659
and I got a bad feeling from it, but that's anecdotal.

01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:08.079
And there are several anonymous CERN employees

01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.880
who, again, this points back of Project Bluebeam.

01:01:11.139 --> 01:01:12.460
And again, there are several of them claiming

01:01:12.460 --> 01:01:16.079
to be former CERN technicians, and they're warning

01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.840
of something they call a post portal Project

01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.480
Bluebeam operation. This whistleblower, no one

01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.099
named, alleges CERN's LHC has already opened

01:01:24.099 --> 01:01:26.559
temporary portals allowing ghost -like entities,

01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:29.219
four to six foot tall, mostly shadowy forms,

01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.340
to briefly manifest during high energy runs.

01:01:31.500 --> 01:01:33.480
And these were apparently, according to them,

01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.099
cashiered on internal cameras, but suppressed.

01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.619
These entities allegedly taught scientists hologram

01:01:38.619 --> 01:01:40.750
tech. the stage of global alien invasion using

01:01:40.750 --> 01:01:42.750
drones, the sky projections, and the ultimate

01:01:42.750 --> 01:01:44.869
goal, like with Project Blue Beam, is global

01:01:44.869 --> 01:01:47.210
control, one -war government, and depopulation.

01:01:47.610 --> 01:01:50.030
Interesting that Project Blue Beam falls back

01:01:50.030 --> 01:01:55.190
into this circle of conspiracy love. When I hear

01:01:55.190 --> 01:01:59.269
the great old ones, I think the verse was in

01:01:59.269 --> 01:02:01.070
Genesis, but somebody would have to fact check

01:02:01.070 --> 01:02:03.449
me on it, but it was the heroes of renown. I

01:02:03.449 --> 01:02:04.989
remember hearing that in the Bible, and what

01:02:04.989 --> 01:02:07.210
are the heroes of renown? They briefly touched

01:02:07.210 --> 01:02:09.429
on it, and they eventually... destroyed in the

01:02:09.429 --> 01:02:11.369
flood, but what they were talking about was the

01:02:11.369 --> 01:02:14.869
Nephilim. And it reminds me of perhaps what the

01:02:14.869 --> 01:02:17.710
great old ones are as these kind of historic

01:02:17.710 --> 01:02:20.110
demons that the world encountered. Yeah, but

01:02:20.110 --> 01:02:23.750
I think the definition of a demon is an actual

01:02:23.750 --> 01:02:26.710
dead Nephilim. So I'm not real sure. I guess

01:02:26.710 --> 01:02:29.289
if you're a dead Nephilim, you're not going to

01:02:29.289 --> 01:02:30.989
be like, yo, I'm a demon. You're going to be

01:02:30.989 --> 01:02:33.329
like, yeah, I'm a great mighty warrior from pre

01:02:33.329 --> 01:02:35.750
-flot. But going back to this anonymous CERN

01:02:35.750 --> 01:02:39.670
employee. So the portals are stabilized in 2022

01:02:39.670 --> 01:02:43.309
with entities emerging as plasma orbs that interacted

01:02:43.309 --> 01:02:46.309
with equipment. And there's a claim by this anonymous

01:02:46.309 --> 01:02:48.869
source that these people take data cables or

01:02:48.869 --> 01:02:50.989
these entities take data cables. What you need

01:02:50.989 --> 01:02:53.730
with a data cable is an orb. I don't know. Again,

01:02:54.090 --> 01:02:56.940
strange stuff. And I think there's one more that's,

01:02:56.940 --> 01:02:58.360
there's a couple more that are pretty interesting.

01:02:58.500 --> 01:03:00.840
I'll just touch on them quick. In early 2025,

01:03:01.099 --> 01:03:04.289
so this year, the anonymous CERN physicist. claimed

01:03:04.289 --> 01:03:07.809
that the super proton secretron captured a mysterious

01:03:07.809 --> 01:03:11.610
4D entity during a March 2024 experiment. Described

01:03:11.610 --> 01:03:14.610
as a ghost particle disturbance and invisible

01:03:14.610 --> 01:03:17.210
four dimensional structure influencing proton

01:03:17.210 --> 01:03:20.050
paths. The story kind of evolved into a whistleblower

01:03:20.050 --> 01:03:22.610
tale of an actual interdimensional being briefly

01:03:22.610 --> 01:03:24.809
trapped in the collider. Reports allege these

01:03:24.809 --> 01:03:27.230
entities caused equipment malfunctions before

01:03:27.230 --> 01:03:30.510
dissipating with footage showing like this anomalous

01:03:30.510 --> 01:03:33.030
shadow figures on the monitors. The claim...

01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.059
was that this entity was a higher dimensional

01:03:35.059 --> 01:03:38.219
being from one of the 17 subatomic realms, not

01:03:38.219 --> 01:03:41.019
a particle entering via the LHC link portals

01:03:41.019 --> 01:03:43.239
and mimicking human forms. This kind of ties

01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:47.380
back to Stucklebird's dimensional list, 17 subatomic

01:03:47.380 --> 01:03:49.679
realms. I don't know if this person's like trying

01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.460
to piggyback on her alleged end of reviews as

01:03:52.460 --> 01:03:55.340
secondhand proof, but one viral kind of video

01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:58.340
I found. quotes a leaked memo and non -local

01:03:58.340 --> 01:04:00.539
consciousness interference. These kind of leaks

01:04:00.539 --> 01:04:03.780
are coming out in the past few years. And the

01:04:03.780 --> 01:04:05.900
last one I want to talk about as a fellow named

01:04:05.900 --> 01:04:10.630
Sergio Bertolucci. Sergio was CERN's former director

01:04:10.630 --> 01:04:15.530
of research from 2009 to 2016, he made a statement

01:04:15.530 --> 01:04:18.369
saying something may come through a dimensional

01:04:18.369 --> 01:04:22.449
gateway or doorway opened by the LHC. Conspiracy

01:04:22.449 --> 01:04:25.489
amplifiers claimed that he was a reluctant whistleblower

01:04:25.489 --> 01:04:28.409
revealing entity risk, alleging post -retirement

01:04:28.409 --> 01:04:30.909
leaks about portals summoning demons or other

01:04:30.909 --> 01:04:34.090
ET forms during the 2012 run. He claims that

01:04:34.090 --> 01:04:37.130
the LHC creates microscopic black holes as portals

01:04:37.130 --> 01:04:40.110
to extra dimensions for any Plasma intelligence

01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:42.210
could emerge instead at the table, which that

01:04:42.210 --> 01:04:46.050
goes back to echoing what Stuckelberg said. Bertolucci

01:04:46.050 --> 01:04:48.289
allegedly warned of uncontrolled visitors and

01:04:48.289 --> 01:04:51.530
private memos suppressed until 2024 declassification.

01:04:51.610 --> 01:04:53.829
I didn't pull the document, but if this is true,

01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:56.789
if there is declassified documentations warning

01:04:56.789 --> 01:04:59.690
of uncontrolled visitors, that's pretty significant

01:04:59.690 --> 01:05:02.409
proof considering that this guy was the director

01:05:02.409 --> 01:05:05.630
of research from 2009 to 2016. So whatever is

01:05:05.630 --> 01:05:07.469
happening in there, whether or not they're doing

01:05:07.469 --> 01:05:10.050
it purposely or not, there seems to be some sort

01:05:10.050 --> 01:05:12.530
of unrealized effect that they're having on the

01:05:12.530 --> 01:05:15.769
world around us. So I'm curious. I didn't catch

01:05:15.769 --> 01:05:18.730
the name, but I think it was a female scientist

01:05:18.730 --> 01:05:22.530
that worked there for 30 years. No, she worked

01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.849
for the UN and the WHO, but she'd interviewed

01:05:25.849 --> 01:05:29.010
some of the former CERN employees. Gotcha. It's

01:05:29.010 --> 01:05:32.269
something about the demon set at the stable or

01:05:32.269 --> 01:05:34.909
stole a scarf or what have you. Did she mention

01:05:34.909 --> 01:05:38.690
what it looked like? Again, I didn't read her

01:05:38.690 --> 01:05:41.090
document per se. I read the recap. At least I

01:05:41.090 --> 01:05:44.780
found the recap in my research. that they are

01:05:44.780 --> 01:05:48.639
described as like shadowy figures, like almost,

01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:50.880
I want to say dark translucent, like you can,

01:05:50.940 --> 01:05:52.659
they look like a shadow person. That's the best

01:05:52.659 --> 01:05:54.739
way I can think of to explain it. Gotcha. That's

01:05:54.739 --> 01:05:57.940
interesting. Now, tonight we talked a lot about

01:05:57.940 --> 01:06:00.739
scary things, time travel, the Mandala effect,

01:06:00.980 --> 01:06:05.199
portals, perhaps connections to revelations.

01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:08.320
And we heard some really interesting stories

01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.840
about what people experienced there as well.

01:06:11.860 --> 01:06:14.880
But I also think it's important to look ahead.

01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.079
And when we look ahead, what we see is bigger

01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:20.820
rings and obviously bigger stories. Even as the

01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:23.989
Large Hadron Collider continues its long run

01:06:23.989 --> 01:06:27.789
of discovery, CERN's ambitions are already pushing

01:06:27.789 --> 01:06:30.750
beyond its current limits. The next great dream,

01:06:31.210 --> 01:06:35.269
the Future Circular Collider, or the FCC, looms

01:06:35.269 --> 01:06:39.690
on the horizon, a proposed 100 -km ring that

01:06:39.690 --> 01:06:44.510
would dwarf the existing 27 -km LHC today. If

01:06:44.510 --> 01:06:46.969
approved, and it sounds like it will be, it would

01:06:46.969 --> 01:06:49.829
become the largest scientific instrument ever

01:06:49.829 --> 01:06:52.789
built by humanity, designed first to study the

01:06:52.789 --> 01:06:55.789
Higgs balls on with unprecedented precision and

01:06:55.789 --> 01:06:59.150
later to smash protons together energies up to

01:06:59.150 --> 01:07:02.130
100 TeV, which I've never seen this abbreviation

01:07:02.130 --> 01:07:04.230
before in my research, but it is abbreviated.

01:07:05.750 --> 01:07:08.769
Yeah. What is it? So it's called tera electron

01:07:08.769 --> 01:07:11.409
volts. So essentially it's just a unit of energy

01:07:11.409 --> 01:07:13.730
in particle physics. So they break that down

01:07:13.730 --> 01:07:16.130
in layman's turn. So it's a unit of energy equal

01:07:16.130 --> 01:07:19.530
to one trillionth of electron volt. So particle

01:07:19.530 --> 01:07:22.760
accelerators like the LHC use TeV. took measure.

01:07:23.019 --> 01:07:25.179
the energy of colliding particles. So to you

01:07:25.179 --> 01:07:26.900
and me, it doesn't really mean much, but it's

01:07:26.900 --> 01:07:29.679
the higher the number, the more energy that they're

01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.619
sending these particles around. Gotcha. Yeah.

01:07:31.619 --> 01:07:33.820
Thanks for that explanation. And they're saying

01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:37.599
energy is up to 100 of these, which is nearly

01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.880
seven times what the LHC can achieve today. To

01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:44.900
the scientific community, this represents the

01:07:44.900 --> 01:07:47.719
next logical step in the quest to understand

01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:51.119
dark matter, the origins of mass and the unification

01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.280
of forces. world of people like us, it may be

01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:59.239
the next chapter in this unfolding cosmic drama

01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.579
that we're seeing before our eyes today. Plans

01:08:02.579 --> 01:08:06.519
for the FCC are still in development, but the

01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.260
numbers alone inspire awe. It's an estimated

01:08:09.260 --> 01:08:12.860
cost in the tens of billions of dollars, a construction

01:08:12.860 --> 01:08:15.980
timeline stretching toward the late 2030s, and

01:08:15.980 --> 01:08:19.319
a buried ring so vast it would encircle the entire

01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:22.020
city of Geneva. For supporters, It's a vision

01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:25.000
of progress, a successor to the collider that

01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:27.800
proved humanity could recreate conditions similar

01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.739
to those a fraction of a second after the Big

01:08:30.739 --> 01:08:32.920
Bang. For critics, it's a machine that feels

01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.939
almost mythic in its audacity. Every time CERN

01:08:35.939 --> 01:08:38.819
announces another upgrade or future concept,

01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:41.939
people start talking of larger portals, global

01:08:41.939 --> 01:08:45.319
rituals, and new dimensional thresholds. And

01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:48.359
in those online narratives, the bigger the ring,

01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.420
the bigger the risk. What's striking is how science

01:08:53.420 --> 01:08:56.500
and myth really move in parallel with this topic.

01:08:56.640 --> 01:09:00.239
When CERN publishes feasibility studies and engineering

01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.060
designs, content creators release their own interpretations

01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:07.180
of what it may impact. Digital prophecies and

01:09:07.180 --> 01:09:09.979
countdown predictions start to kind of flood

01:09:09.979 --> 01:09:13.960
online forums. And the official slides talk about

01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.260
superconducting magnets and energy efficiency.

01:09:17.420 --> 01:09:20.470
And the mythic versions speak of gateways. and

01:09:20.470 --> 01:09:24.090
the world brink for transformation. But ultimately

01:09:24.090 --> 01:09:25.909
I think we don't know what we don't know. The

01:09:25.909 --> 01:09:28.670
scientists have their theory, but there is some

01:09:28.670 --> 01:09:32.170
world possible impact that we could see from

01:09:32.170 --> 01:09:34.989
these significant changes that will likely occur

01:09:34.989 --> 01:09:37.449
when these experiments kick off. And what I'm

01:09:37.449 --> 01:09:40.010
seeing with it, it's going to be so big and the

01:09:40.010 --> 01:09:43.189
discoveries may be so vast. It may be like discovering

01:09:43.189 --> 01:09:45.569
the atom bomb all over again, because when you

01:09:45.569 --> 01:09:47.689
start smashing things together at accelerated

01:09:47.689 --> 01:09:50.550
energy forces, we also don't know how big of

01:09:50.550 --> 01:09:52.750
a bang there's going to be and what destruction

01:09:52.750 --> 01:09:55.369
is going to follow. There's potential for our

01:09:55.369 --> 01:09:57.789
sun to go dark, for our seas to boil, who knows.

01:09:58.069 --> 01:10:01.970
But I do think it can be some pretty scary stuff.

01:10:02.109 --> 01:10:05.909
And it connects a lot to what people fear today

01:10:05.909 --> 01:10:08.850
when it comes to the government can control earthquakes,

01:10:09.029 --> 01:10:11.390
that they can manipulate the weather, that they

01:10:11.390 --> 01:10:14.270
can do all of these things and perhaps be really

01:10:14.270 --> 01:10:16.810
tragic weapons as well. Yeah, it's scary stuff.

01:10:16.989 --> 01:10:20.069
Is that what you think the CERN is? Is that your

01:10:20.069 --> 01:10:23.750
conclusion? It's for me, this is a really tricky

01:10:23.750 --> 01:10:27.710
topic. And I think for once I almost feel out

01:10:27.710 --> 01:10:30.289
of my depth. Obviously I've done a lot of research.

01:10:30.550 --> 01:10:33.350
I am a science guy in a way. I know how to program

01:10:33.350 --> 01:10:35.590
things. I understand people. Like there's a lot

01:10:35.590 --> 01:10:38.170
of things I do understand and there's a lot with

01:10:38.170 --> 01:10:40.449
CERN that I just don't. I think there's a lot

01:10:40.449 --> 01:10:43.149
of risk when you look at the world from a biblical

01:10:43.149 --> 01:10:46.890
worldview, there are some concerns. My concerns

01:10:46.890 --> 01:10:51.729
start with the statues of Shiva of these unauthorized

01:10:51.729 --> 01:10:54.710
pranks that occur at CERN that are showing human

01:10:54.710 --> 01:10:58.609
sacrifices to all of this weirdness that surrounds

01:10:58.609 --> 01:11:02.189
it. I think CERN, I don't know, man, I think

01:11:02.189 --> 01:11:04.229
it could be for good and I think it could be

01:11:04.229 --> 01:11:07.810
for bad. And it lies with the people whose hands

01:11:07.810 --> 01:11:10.229
God has turned it over to ultimately to make

01:11:10.229 --> 01:11:13.710
these discoveries. But I do think it can also

01:11:13.710 --> 01:11:16.880
be a weapon. And especially as we watch our world

01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.300
get closer and closer to World War III as we

01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:22.800
start to see countries that are going to war

01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.079
with each other, as we hear rumors of wars and

01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.140
wars, as is quoted in Revelations. I think it

01:11:29.140 --> 01:11:32.659
may be prioritized of how we can, A, protect

01:11:32.659 --> 01:11:36.140
ourselves or go on the offensive. So I do think

01:11:36.140 --> 01:11:40.260
it has strategic weapon capabilities along with

01:11:40.260 --> 01:11:43.289
studying. And I do think it could. possibly learn

01:11:43.289 --> 01:11:46.029
how to harness earthquakes and shifting tectonic

01:11:46.029 --> 01:11:49.590
plates and create natural man -made disasters

01:11:49.590 --> 01:11:52.170
in another realm of possibility. So I think we

01:11:52.170 --> 01:11:55.210
have to be careful. One of the things that you

01:11:55.210 --> 01:11:57.210
read about is a lot of the numerology. I don't

01:11:57.210 --> 01:11:59.909
put a lot of faith in numerology. God talks about

01:11:59.909 --> 01:12:02.090
it kind of some in the Bible, like seven says

01:12:02.090 --> 01:12:06.369
kind of number and the devil is 666. But numerology

01:12:06.369 --> 01:12:08.689
and a lot of these conspirator forms go a little

01:12:08.689 --> 01:12:11.449
bit deeper. They connected to the worldwide web.

01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:14.130
going down a tangent of why they connected to

01:12:14.130 --> 01:12:16.750
the worldwide web. What we do know about it is

01:12:16.750 --> 01:12:19.590
that it's, in my opinion, a weapon of evil more

01:12:19.590 --> 01:12:21.949
than it is something for good. Yeah, obviously

01:12:21.949 --> 01:12:24.510
we use the internet every day. We were able to

01:12:24.510 --> 01:12:26.489
communicate. Me and you, we're in different states.

01:12:26.529 --> 01:12:29.149
We're able to have a podcast, but the amount

01:12:29.149 --> 01:12:31.869
of damage it is called is pretty irreversible.

01:12:31.989 --> 01:12:34.609
When you talk about addictions and pornography

01:12:34.609 --> 01:12:37.569
to, you can find anything you want on the worldwide

01:12:37.569 --> 01:12:40.090
web. And we know about that discovery very well.

01:12:40.090 --> 01:12:42.350
And I see that. as a really bad thing. So I'm

01:12:42.350 --> 01:12:44.289
not seeing good things come out of CERN. I don't

01:12:44.289 --> 01:12:46.670
really need to know about matter and anti -matter,

01:12:46.789 --> 01:12:50.590
but it sounds scary and it sounds like building

01:12:50.590 --> 01:12:53.569
blocks of creation and destruction, which I'm

01:12:53.569 --> 01:12:55.630
not sure we should be dabbling in anyways. And

01:12:55.630 --> 01:12:58.130
when you start connecting the wrong people to

01:12:58.130 --> 01:13:01.590
CERN and you starting to see this 666 and they're

01:13:01.590 --> 01:13:04.430
prioritizing all the bad things, I think only

01:13:04.430 --> 01:13:06.770
bad things can come from it. So I don't know

01:13:06.770 --> 01:13:09.989
if I would want my taxes to go pay for CERN to

01:13:09.989 --> 01:13:12.739
dig into. all this evil, perhaps maybe we should

01:13:12.739 --> 01:13:15.479
just give a little more money to the needy and

01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:17.960
take care of our own societies. Yeah. So what

01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.619
comes to mind to me is that it was said in the

01:13:20.619 --> 01:13:23.819
Bible at the end times that. the end of the world,

01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:25.779
the end of creation will be like the days of

01:13:25.779 --> 01:13:28.020
Noah. So I think, okay, let's think about the

01:13:28.020 --> 01:13:30.680
days of Noah. So we know the fallen angels came

01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:32.739
to earth, made it with women, and these angels

01:13:32.739 --> 01:13:35.659
taught man a lot of stuff that we have. So just

01:13:35.659 --> 01:13:37.960
drawing, looping this back around the CERN, I

01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:40.380
don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility

01:13:40.380 --> 01:13:44.000
that they are trying to contact something, maybe

01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.180
they know what it is, maybe they don't, but trying

01:13:46.180 --> 01:13:49.479
to get information on how to build new tech.

01:13:49.739 --> 01:13:52.399
new advanced tech. I think there's enough evidence

01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:54.699
with some of these other scientists back in the

01:13:54.699 --> 01:13:57.159
1900s, their obsession with the occult, their

01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.680
obsession with trying to summon entities, all

01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:01.760
for the sole purpose of getting knowledge. Like

01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.460
with knowledge comes power. And for me, the Shiva

01:14:04.460 --> 01:14:07.489
statue with that, what I call a ritual. during

01:14:07.489 --> 01:14:10.289
its unveiling, there's a lot of a cult out there

01:14:10.289 --> 01:14:14.189
around this place. And with these stories, though,

01:14:14.409 --> 01:14:17.270
unverified with people that have credibility,

01:14:17.449 --> 01:14:19.930
with people who have worked there, passing the

01:14:19.930 --> 01:14:23.310
concerns and giving these testimonies of entities

01:14:23.310 --> 01:14:25.329
coming through these portals. And we talked about

01:14:25.329 --> 01:14:28.090
a couple of setting down and just the concerns

01:14:28.090 --> 01:14:31.109
of logistic scientists worrying about triggering

01:14:31.109 --> 01:14:33.369
a black hole event. We're playing with technology.

01:14:33.449 --> 01:14:36.380
I don't think we really. truly understand. And

01:14:36.380 --> 01:14:38.659
again, with anything else in life, I think there's

01:14:38.659 --> 01:14:40.300
plenty of scientists there that go, I just want

01:14:40.300 --> 01:14:42.739
to study physics and that's all I do. Cool. But

01:14:42.739 --> 01:14:45.460
you get to a certain upper echelon who may know

01:14:45.460 --> 01:14:48.640
what it's really for and who may use the naive

01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.680
scientists, use their data to propel their agenda.

01:14:51.899 --> 01:14:53.460
Do I think there's stuff coming through the portals?

01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:55.680
And this is a no, we'll get into Oak Ridge. There's

01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.520
another podcast or named Tony Merkel for the

01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.979
confessionals. And he said guest on, or he knows,

01:15:01.140 --> 01:15:02.739
I don't know if he's had a guest on yet. I'll

01:15:02.739 --> 01:15:04.439
have to check that out. But there was some chatter

01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:06.619
of him having a guest on. He worked at Oak Ridge

01:15:06.619 --> 01:15:08.479
and he said, every time they turn the particle

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accelerator, like entities would come out, like

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physical entities. And they would have to either

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kill them and, or try to get them to go back

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in, which I think 99 times out of a hundred,

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they would have to kill them. So I think they

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are summoning something. They're thinning the

01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:22.500
veil. And I think they want to, because they

01:15:22.500 --> 01:15:24.180
want to get knowledge, whether they think they're

01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:27.289
talking to demons. fallen angels, benevolent

01:15:27.289 --> 01:15:30.329
entities, aliens, I don't know. But I think...

01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.859
that they know how to thin that veil and are

01:15:32.859 --> 01:15:34.720
trying to get information. Yeah, it's a circle

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.640
back to where we started tonight. It's the Christian

01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.819
reading of modern science mythic narrative. In

01:15:40.819 --> 01:15:44.920
my mind, really, CERN stands as the 21st century

01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:49.020
tower of Babel, a monument to mankind's relentless

01:15:49.020 --> 01:15:52.119
climb towards the divine. And that ancient story

01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:55.619
told in Genesis 11 that speaks of people united

01:15:55.619 --> 01:15:59.239
by one language and one ambition to build a tower

01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:02.199
that reaches heaven and God so displeased by

01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.199
their arrogance, scatters them and confuses their

01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.520
tongues. And thousands of years later, that story

01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:12.939
really feels reborn and steel. A dream of climbing

01:16:12.939 --> 01:16:16.800
heaven now recast as descent into creating the

01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.119
atom and anti -matter and all these things we

01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.260
were talking about tonight. I think, as you said,

01:16:21.260 --> 01:16:24.020
as we're getting closer to the divine and thinning

01:16:24.020 --> 01:16:25.840
that veil, it kind of reminds me of the story

01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.060
of Babel. And then you wonder, maybe they build

01:16:28.060 --> 01:16:30.239
it big enough. and God says no more and a big

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.380
boom happens and it's all said and done. Yeah,

01:16:32.460 --> 01:16:34.779
dude. We'll have to do a deep dive on the Nimrod

01:16:34.779 --> 01:16:37.000
and the tarot babble. Yeah, that's a good story.

01:16:37.220 --> 01:16:39.859
All right. So what do you want to leave our audience

01:16:39.859 --> 01:16:42.220
with tonight as we close it out? Yeah, man. Same

01:16:42.220 --> 01:16:43.960
thing every week. It's been a long episode, so

01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:45.560
I'll keep it short and sweet. Jesus love you.

01:16:45.770 --> 01:16:47.770
We love you. I love you, brother. That's it.

01:16:48.170 --> 01:16:50.770
Nice. Yeah. Remember discernment. Remember to

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question things. And that's what we're doing

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here. We're testing the realities. We're trying

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to uncover the facts. We're not just buying the

01:16:58.670 --> 01:17:01.569
mainstream narrative where people want you to

01:17:01.569 --> 01:17:04.350
believe or think or act a certain way. Remember

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