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Tonight we're talking about 00:01:21.780 --> 00:01:24.540 creatures with a smile like a row of tiny teeth 00:01:24.540 --> 00:01:27.579 and eyes that somehow look innocent and mischievous 00:01:27.579 --> 00:01:29.819 at the same time. LeBouBou. If you've seen it, 00:01:29.819 --> 00:01:32.640 you know exactly what I mean. A small elven figure 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.659 with tall ears, sharp teeth, and a posture that 00:01:35.659 --> 00:01:37.980 boasts cute and unsettling, like a woodland sprite. 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:40.319 Trying cosplay as a gremlin and accidentally 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.500 becoming a fashion icon. LeBouBou was created 00:01:42.500 --> 00:01:45.900 by Hong Kong born artist Kasing Leung and produced 00:01:45.900 --> 00:01:48.500 by Chinese collectible giant Pop Mart. It belongs 00:01:48.500 --> 00:01:51.719 to the designer Toy World. of blind boxes, limited 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:54.379 runs, and secret chase figures. A market built 00:01:54.379 --> 00:01:56.980 on mystery, luck, and obsession. The Boo Boo 00:01:56.980 --> 00:02:00.200 sits at the strange and irresistible space where 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.319 cute blends with creepy, what I call... Cozy 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.959 Menace. Kids love it because it looks mischievous. 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.620 Adults love it because it feels ironic. And the 00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:11.340 internet loves it because it's endlessly memeable. 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:13.900 You can photograph it on your desk and suddenly 00:02:13.900 --> 00:02:17.280 your desk looks like a dreamscape. Half fairy 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.759 tale and half fever dream. Labooboo isn't just 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.759 a collectible. It's a global phenomenon. Pop 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.979 Mart has turned this fanged little imp into a 00:02:24.979 --> 00:02:27.199 worldwide icon with hundreds of thousands of 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.780 units sold and entire store drops selling out 00:02:29.780 --> 00:02:32.560 in hours. Fans queue around blocks of in Tokyo, 00:02:32.740 --> 00:02:35.319 Hong Kong, and New York to grab the newest editions. 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.080 It becomes a fashion statement, a lifestyle mascot, 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.719 and a kind of totem of the weird, cute generation. 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.099 Celebrities have fueled the frenzy. Lisa from 00:02:43.099 --> 00:02:46.000 Blackpink posed with one. LeBron James owns a 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.840 gold variant, and luxury brand Monat collaborated 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.759 with Popmart to create a high -end LeBouBou handbag. 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.379 At this point, LeBouBou isn't just a toy. It's 00:02:54.379 --> 00:02:56.659 a culture, and culture always carries meaning, 00:02:56.740 --> 00:02:58.699 whether we realize it or not. But here's where 00:02:58.699 --> 00:03:00.900 it takes a darker turn. As LeBouBou's popularity 00:03:00.900 --> 00:03:03.960 grew, So did the rumors. Online threads, TikToks, 00:03:03.979 --> 00:03:06.000 and YouTube videos begin whispering the same 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.759 ideal. Lububu isn't just cute, it's demonic. 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.860 Some claimed it was modeled after Pazuzu, the 00:03:11.860 --> 00:03:15.099 ancient Mesopotamian wind demon made famous by 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:17.979 the exorcist. In Babylonian mythology, Pazuzu 00:03:17.979 --> 00:03:20.479 is depicted with a lion's face and the body of 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:22.800 a man, the wings of an eagle, and the scorpion's 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.379 tail. He was feared for spreading disease, yet, 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.259 paradoxically, worshiped as protection against 00:03:28.259 --> 00:03:31.500 even the worst demons. pop culture, a Pazuzu 00:03:31.500 --> 00:03:33.759 became the face of evil itself. When people saw 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.560 Lububu's grin, sharp teeth, and long ears, they 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.960 said the resemblance wasn't coincidence. It was 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.599 a symbol of hiding in plain sight. Lungs states 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.379 his inspiration come from his own storybook universe, 00:03:45.539 --> 00:03:48.599 a whimsical fantasy world of monsters and dream 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:51.780 creatures, not Babylonian idols. But to me, that 00:03:51.780 --> 00:03:54.300 sounds a little demonic, too. But that hasn't 00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:56.979 stopped this theory from spreading. When something 00:03:56.979 --> 00:03:59.599 captures mass attention, people begin to project 00:03:59.530 --> 00:04:03.129 deeper meaning into it. What started as art becomes 00:04:03.129 --> 00:04:05.930 a mirror for collective fears. The Pazuzu theory 00:04:05.930 --> 00:04:09.449 is a perfect example of how myth mutates online 00:04:09.449 --> 00:04:12.289 and how the human need to find patterns can turn 00:04:12.289 --> 00:04:15.169 design into doctrine. From a Christian perspective, 00:04:15.530 --> 00:04:17.629 this is where discernment matters. Scripture 00:04:17.629 --> 00:04:20.370 teaches that demons are real. Evil works through 00:04:20.370 --> 00:04:22.730 deception, obsession, and misplaced reverence. 00:04:22.829 --> 00:04:25.189 The danger isn't in the plastic. It's in the 00:04:25.189 --> 00:04:27.230 power we give it. When a toy becomes an idol, 00:04:27.350 --> 00:04:30.110 when it inspires fear, worship and superstition 00:04:30.110 --> 00:04:32.009 that crosses spiritual boundaries. The devil 00:04:32.009 --> 00:04:34.750 doesn't need the object. He just needs the invitation. 00:04:34.970 --> 00:04:37.209 And sometimes fascination is all the invitation 00:04:37.209 --> 00:04:40.290 he needs. Lububu may or may not be demonic in 00:04:40.290 --> 00:04:42.850 design, but the story around it has taken on 00:04:42.850 --> 00:04:44.889 spiritual weight because people want to believe 00:04:44.889 --> 00:04:47.470 it's more than just a toy. It's become a cultural 00:04:47.470 --> 00:04:50.449 test for how we process innocence, evil, and 00:04:50.449 --> 00:04:52.889 attention in a world assessed with aesthetics. 00:04:53.089 --> 00:04:56.290 So the question tonight is what is Lububu really? 00:04:56.370 --> 00:04:59.019 On the surface, it's a collectible. a cute monster 00:04:59.019 --> 00:05:01.800 that conquered the art toy market. Beneath that, 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.100 it's myth in motion. Whether you see it as harmless 00:05:04.100 --> 00:05:06.720 fun, a marketing miracle, or a spiritual symbol 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.019 depends on the eyes you bring to it. But tonight, 00:05:09.259 --> 00:05:12.620 we will uncover the facts so you can apply your 00:05:12.620 --> 00:05:14.620 discernment. So Jay, I have to ask you this. 00:05:14.819 --> 00:05:17.420 You've seen all these celebrities and many people 00:05:17.420 --> 00:05:20.560 queuing up to buy this doll that constantly sells 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.160 out at every store across the country. Do you 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.660 think the intent of Kong was to manifest a demon 00:05:26.660 --> 00:05:29.060 in everybody's house? Did he steal that power 00:05:29.060 --> 00:05:31.279 in order to bring a demonic force in everybody's 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:33.959 house and exert some kind of weird influence 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.459 or control over people? This is an interesting 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:39.199 and scary one. I tend to get a little bit nervous 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.240 talking about some of these subjects. I think 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.189 it'd be a good time to... maybe say a prayer 00:05:43.189 --> 00:05:45.389 for us and our audience. I get a little nervous 00:05:45.389 --> 00:05:48.430 about haunted dolls, haunted objects, anything 00:05:48.430 --> 00:05:51.269 that's enchanted. So Lord Jesus, please protect 00:05:51.269 --> 00:05:53.569 and be with us during the show. Be with our listeners, 00:05:53.769 --> 00:05:56.689 keep us from all evil and foul spirits. In Jesus 00:05:56.689 --> 00:05:59.310 Christ, we rebuke them, give us wisdom and discernment 00:05:59.310 --> 00:06:01.810 and put a hedge of protection around us as we 00:06:01.810 --> 00:06:03.670 talk about this and as our listeners listen. 00:06:03.949 --> 00:06:06.589 Dave, so this one is tough because I think a 00:06:06.589 --> 00:06:09.829 lot of culture in the Bible says that the end 00:06:09.829 --> 00:06:11.930 days will be like the days of Noah. like the 00:06:11.930 --> 00:06:14.449 ones coming up. And I think the intention with 00:06:14.449 --> 00:06:17.050 most media, most of the stuff you see in the 00:06:17.050 --> 00:06:20.050 stores, they're trying to normalize this demonic, 00:06:20.370 --> 00:06:23.819 satanic type culture and they really try to target 00:06:23.819 --> 00:06:25.959 our kids with it. When my kids were growing up, 00:06:25.980 --> 00:06:28.379 they're older now, they got curious about this 00:06:28.379 --> 00:06:30.899 cartoon called Monsters High. And I would always 00:06:30.899 --> 00:06:32.399 try to watch everything with them. And it made 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.680 me a bit nervous because they were glamorizing 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.339 these monsters, demons, like vampires, werewolves, 00:06:38.339 --> 00:06:40.480 and trying to personalize them, make them seem 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.480 normal to kids. And the big things like Harry 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.300 Potter, they're trying to make witchcraft, sorcery 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:49.600 very mainline. And I think this is another step 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:52.500 in this process to normalize these things. And 00:06:52.500 --> 00:06:55.360 God says a lot about magic. God says a lot about 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.220 sorcery. God says a lot about omens and magic 00:06:58.220 --> 00:07:00.439 items. And God tells you to burn them. If they're 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.459 possessed, if they're haunted, I think we can 00:07:02.459 --> 00:07:04.519 talk about the differences in that as we move 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:06.920 forward in this show. But I think it's just a 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.379 way to normalize the occult. And that makes me 00:07:09.379 --> 00:07:11.779 really scared and nervous, especially in this 00:07:11.779 --> 00:07:14.019 day and age. It's a good point. It makes me think 00:07:14.019 --> 00:07:17.399 of an old story where the devil was talking to 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.000 this Christian guy. And he goes, I don't understand 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:21.720 why you're not attacking me. I'm a Christian 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:23.740 come after me. And he's like, my work's already 00:07:23.740 --> 00:07:26.620 been done, man. Like I go after the young generation 00:07:26.620 --> 00:07:28.620 because if I can affect them in their informative 00:07:28.620 --> 00:07:30.639 years, that means they are going to have a real 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.920 big struggle by the time they turn to adults. 00:07:33.060 --> 00:07:35.379 So it's about capturing the hearts and minds 00:07:35.379 --> 00:07:38.600 at a young age. And that has that exert influence 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.100 and control over the younger minds. And then 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:43.379 as you see that bleeding into kids cartoons, 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.879 into dolls, into different things that are being 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.500 manufactured and progressed. I think it's interesting 00:07:48.500 --> 00:07:50.600 that celebrities are getting into the mix. as 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.300 well. LeBron James, I don't know much about him 00:07:53.300 --> 00:07:55.540 outside of him being an elite basketball player, 00:07:55.540 --> 00:07:58.339 but there's a conspiracy that we could go down 00:07:58.339 --> 00:08:01.319 one day of how the demonic forces play in Hollywood 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.560 in general and what differences they are doing 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.720 there. I've heard a lot of things where actors 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:07.920 sign scripts where they can't mention the name 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:10.480 of Jesus Christ. They can talk about Muhammad. 00:08:10.620 --> 00:08:12.540 They can talk about Buddha, but they actually 00:08:12.540 --> 00:08:14.819 can't say Jesus. And that's like the devil's 00:08:14.819 --> 00:08:16.279 biggest trick. He doesn't care who you worship. 00:08:16.420 --> 00:08:18.540 Just forget about Jesus. Just take Jesus out 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:20.189 of it. And then guess what? You're going to hell. 00:08:20.269 --> 00:08:22.709 He's won that battle. It's really interesting 00:08:22.709 --> 00:08:25.189 of things that get empowered because when you 00:08:25.189 --> 00:08:27.250 look at this doll in the face value, it's ugly 00:08:27.250 --> 00:08:30.949 as sin, man. This little weird toy with big fangs 00:08:30.949 --> 00:08:34.350 and pointy ears. Who on earth would want this 00:08:34.350 --> 00:08:36.029 thing? It's not cute and cuddly. It's not like 00:08:36.029 --> 00:08:38.590 a puppy dog that is cute. Who would want this 00:08:38.590 --> 00:08:41.049 toy in their room? And I think there's a little 00:08:41.049 --> 00:08:44.389 bit of magical or mythology, something mixed 00:08:44.389 --> 00:08:47.470 in there that influences people's spirit to purchase 00:08:47.470 --> 00:08:49.610 it and to bring it into their home. homes and 00:08:49.610 --> 00:08:52.870 become so widely successful. Now you have Luke 00:08:52.870 --> 00:08:55.870 Kong that made this thing. Supposedly we'll get 00:08:55.870 --> 00:08:58.330 a little bit more into his background, but supposedly 00:08:58.330 --> 00:09:01.409 it's based on Norse mythology. But he comes from 00:09:01.409 --> 00:09:04.049 an area where it's very secular in Hong Kong, 00:09:04.129 --> 00:09:06.110 where obviously I'd lived in Hong Kong for a 00:09:06.110 --> 00:09:07.970 little while. And one of the interesting things 00:09:07.970 --> 00:09:10.990 was you'd walk around during the holiday season, 00:09:11.129 --> 00:09:13.429 whether it be Easter or Christmas. And as you're 00:09:13.429 --> 00:09:15.269 walking around, you see the Easter bunny and 00:09:15.269 --> 00:09:17.710 you see the Christmas trees and Santa Claus at 00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:19.600 all. malls and all the stuff where people are 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.519 taking pictures of it. And I remember asking 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.720 my friends and me being naive. Oh, you must celebrate 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.080 Christ. Because, you know, it's Easter and Easter 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.779 bunny and the resurrection and Christmas and 00:09:30.779 --> 00:09:32.559 his birth. And they're like, what are you talking 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.559 about? I was like, Christ connected to Easter, 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:37.360 Christ connected to Christmas. They're like, 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.519 we don't know what you're talking about. And 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.019 they have all these imagery that's fun. They've 00:09:42.019 --> 00:09:44.000 taken the commercialism of it and taken it over 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.960 to sell those products. But at the same time, 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.419 they never knew Christ. The big trick in my book 00:09:48.419 --> 00:09:50.200 is that you can believe in anything else you 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:51.379 want. As long as you don't believe in Christ, 00:09:51.460 --> 00:09:53.000 we're going to have your journey straight to 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.240 hell. But I just find it interesting that this 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.879 thing that is so ugly where nobody in the right 00:09:57.879 --> 00:09:59.879 mind, at least from my generation would want 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.740 to buy this thing that now is selling off to 00:10:02.740 --> 00:10:04.860 shelves and you can't even get your hands on 00:10:04.860 --> 00:10:07.200 one. And every major influencer across the market 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.000 is trying to get it so they can talk about it 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.879 and put it on their show. Yeah. Like we said, 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.480 man, it's normalizing the occult. It's edifying 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.049 these demonic type. caricatures, trying to make 00:10:17.049 --> 00:10:19.070 them cute, trying to make them into little stuffed 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:20.970 animals that kids are going to want to, mom and 00:10:20.970 --> 00:10:23.409 dad, to rush to the toy store and buy. It reminds 00:10:23.409 --> 00:10:25.470 me of the Tickle Me Elmo back when my kids were 00:10:25.470 --> 00:10:27.309 little. Like you couldn't find one to save your 00:10:27.309 --> 00:10:29.730 life, but it's a little puppet in Sesame Street. 00:10:29.889 --> 00:10:32.549 Now it's this demonic doll that looks like a 00:10:32.549 --> 00:10:34.570 little devil rabbit, at least from what I can 00:10:34.570 --> 00:10:36.909 tell. It's based off of an artist's rendering 00:10:36.909 --> 00:10:38.750 of a demon. The other thing that kind of comes 00:10:38.750 --> 00:10:41.309 to mind is idolatry. It's like they're mass producing 00:10:41.309 --> 00:10:43.450 these little mini idols for your little kids 00:10:43.450 --> 00:10:47.700 to take around. of project like a tulpa. And 00:10:47.700 --> 00:10:49.799 we can talk more about tulpas in a little bit. 00:10:49.820 --> 00:10:51.720 That actually is a Tibetan term, but I think 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.480 it's a pretty worldwide phenomenon across cultures, 00:10:54.500 --> 00:10:58.059 but it's mainlining the idolatry and idolatry 00:10:58.059 --> 00:11:00.940 isn't just limited to a doll. It could be expansive 00:11:00.940 --> 00:11:03.559 to a lot of things in our lives, but you're carrying 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:05.500 around a little mini demon with you, bro. Like 00:11:05.500 --> 00:11:07.539 good things aren't going to happen. And it's 00:11:07.539 --> 00:11:09.340 scary. Doesn't it remind you of that story? It 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:11.500 was Moses when he went to the mountain to get 00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:14.139 the 10 commandments because he was gone so long. 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.139 By the time he came down, people are worshiping 00:11:16.139 --> 00:11:18.519 this golden statue that they had built because 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:19.960 they're just like, wow, we just thought Moses 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.779 would never come back in time. And they build 00:11:21.779 --> 00:11:23.620 a statue and start worshiping. Like how stupid 00:11:23.620 --> 00:11:25.600 is that? Like, why are you guys so stupid? But 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:27.740 they're vacant of God. And when people are vacant 00:11:27.740 --> 00:11:30.659 of God, they start trying to put creation into 00:11:30.659 --> 00:11:33.200 something else, put control into something else. 00:11:33.259 --> 00:11:35.379 But maybe we crawl down this rabbit hole a little 00:11:35.379 --> 00:11:37.639 bit and you said it best. Like we, I'm glad we 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.460 said a prayer because even researching this stuff, 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.139 it always makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable 00:11:41.139 --> 00:11:43.950 because I don't like to even be like in the embraces 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:46.230 of the occult or what they're following along 00:11:46.230 --> 00:11:48.629 with or part of that confusion, but it's important 00:11:48.629 --> 00:11:51.230 to open our listeners eyes up to what's really 00:11:51.230 --> 00:11:53.549 occurring in the world. So let's talk a little 00:11:53.549 --> 00:11:57.240 bit about Labooboo. Labooboo. didn't just crawl 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.460 out of the abyss one day. It was born from the 00:11:59.460 --> 00:12:02.399 imagination, this story, and this kind of perfect 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.720 storm of culture and commerce. The creature comes 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.639 from the mind of Luang, a Hong Kong -born illustrator, 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:11.080 now based in Belgium, whose art universe is known 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.539 as The Monsters. His work looks like something 00:12:14.539 --> 00:12:16.980 you'd find in a storybook, left too long in the 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:20.600 rain, whimsical, eerie, nostalgic, slightly unsettling, 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.240 or maybe very unsettling. It carries the DNA 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.539 of European fairy tales. and the visual rhythm 00:12:26.539 --> 00:12:29.419 of East Asian pulp culture, where this kind of 00:12:29.419 --> 00:12:33.019 melancholy and cuteness often walk hand in hand. 00:12:33.179 --> 00:12:36.159 In his world, monsters aren't villains. They're 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:38.879 reflections of us, small beings full of this 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.500 kind of wonder, fear, and mischief. When Pop 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:45.320 Mart, the Chinese collectible's giant, partnered 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.399 with Leng to turn his characters into vinyl art 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:51.679 toys, Lububu jumped from his paper to your palm. 00:12:51.779 --> 00:12:54.480 Suddenly, this storybook sprite had this weight 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.379 and shine. It could be owned, displayed, and 00:12:57.379 --> 00:12:59.960 traded. And when Pop Mart packaged it inside 00:12:59.960 --> 00:13:03.460 of blind boxes, sealed cartons that hid these 00:13:03.460 --> 00:13:06.379 figures inside, the psychology changed completely. 00:13:06.500 --> 00:13:09.500 What we saw is every purchase became this small 00:13:09.500 --> 00:13:12.460 gamble, this micro lottery of hope and chance. 00:13:12.620 --> 00:13:15.340 The mystery became the magnet and the scarcity 00:13:15.340 --> 00:13:18.860 became the spell. Scarcity to me always feels 00:13:18.860 --> 00:13:21.879 a little sacred. A line outside a store transforms 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.379 an object into a ritual because you stand in 00:13:24.379 --> 00:13:26.879 those long lines for hours upon hours. And a 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.899 midnight drop, we used to think about it maybe 00:13:28.899 --> 00:13:31.580 with Xbox games or something, turns into the 00:13:31.580 --> 00:13:34.919 purchase into this shared experience of anticipation. 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:38.139 What happens next is really this modern consumer 00:13:38.139 --> 00:13:40.480 culture, right? Now you have Instagram photos 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.279 on walls and stacked Labooboos and these TikTok 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.580 videos of glowing collections arranged like shrines. 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.340 I even seen one where they had a Labooboo like 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:52.080 hanging from a purse. These YouTube unboxings 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:55.129 with these - the cinematic lighting and the suspenseful 00:13:55.129 --> 00:13:58.309 music. And each one is like a tiny act of devotion. 00:13:58.509 --> 00:14:00.929 And that devotion, much like when we worship 00:14:00.929 --> 00:14:04.029 God, attracts attention. The resale market soon 00:14:04.029 --> 00:14:06.789 pushed prices into the stratosphere. What I saw 00:14:06.789 --> 00:14:10.289 was limited editions sold out in minutes reappeared 00:14:10.289 --> 00:14:13.330 online and then tripled and quadrupled in price. 00:14:13.450 --> 00:14:15.509 People are willing to pay anything just to have 00:14:15.509 --> 00:14:17.950 this weird little stuffed animal. People began 00:14:17.950 --> 00:14:20.370 hunting this item almost like the Holy Grail. 00:14:20.470 --> 00:14:24.090 Rare colorways and these exclusives really became 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:27.210 stuff of legends online and the collectible economy 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:29.669 blurred into this kind of religion. Patience, 00:14:29.750 --> 00:14:32.769 luck, and sacrifice all for a figure that fits 00:14:32.769 --> 00:14:35.350 in the palm of your hand. Then came the celebrity 00:14:35.350 --> 00:14:39.070 effect when someone like Lisa from Blackpink 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:42.230 post a photo with a libubu on her shelf and LeBron 00:14:42.230 --> 00:14:44.690 James flashing this gold variant. And now you 00:14:44.690 --> 00:14:46.509 see this new energy entered the system, right? 00:14:46.610 --> 00:14:49.029 Now this isn't just a soy. It's an aesthetic. 00:14:49.149 --> 00:14:51.570 It's a status symbol. It's an emblem of cool. 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:55.700 even in high fashion, and 175 year old French 00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:58.440 luxury brand like Monat was getting in on it. 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.659 Collaborated with Pop Mart to create the Lububu 00:15:01.659 --> 00:15:04.460 leather goods. And the little imp of this doll 00:15:04.460 --> 00:15:07.460 that once lived in this dude's sketches was now 00:15:07.460 --> 00:15:10.240 rubbing elbows with couture. Cute became cool 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.600 and cool became cultural currency. Once an object 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.279 reaches that level of visibility when it feels 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.879 chosen by these crazies, people start searching 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.080 for meaning. They want to know why this particular 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.299 figure ca - the hearts and headlines and they 00:15:22.299 --> 00:15:24.100 want to get in on it. But what we're seeing is 00:15:24.100 --> 00:15:26.600 this cultural craze. You can't buy it enough. 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.799 It disappears. Now you're jealous because Jay's 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:31.960 standing online holding a La Boo Boo doll. I'll 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.419 never hold one brown. But it's absolute insanity 00:15:37.419 --> 00:15:39.879 that we're seeing with this doll. And the prices 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.320 are astronomical. People are willing to give 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.679 away their life savings to get this little plush 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.720 toy that has horns and sharp teeth. To me, the 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:51.419 entire thing is just insane. but what it tells 00:15:51.419 --> 00:15:54.840 you is that it's worship and not just consumerism, 00:15:54.899 --> 00:15:56.799 in my opinion. It's interesting that the claim 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.360 is that this Labubu doll was modeled after a 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.659 Mesopotamian demon called Pazuzu. He was the 00:16:03.659 --> 00:16:06.279 king of the wind demons. Pazuzu is identified 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.899 as the king of the wind demons in the Mesopotamian 00:16:08.899 --> 00:16:12.940 religion, and he is known for bringing plagues 00:16:12.940 --> 00:16:15.799 and famine. It's interesting that this doll originated 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.679 in China, and where did the latest big plague 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.610 come from? China. Again, drawing some conclusions 00:16:22.610 --> 00:16:24.830 here, but it's a little interesting. Some anecdotal 00:16:24.830 --> 00:16:27.450 evidence with these dolls. I know they've been 00:16:27.450 --> 00:16:29.750 banned in certain countries, mainly Middle Eastern 00:16:29.750 --> 00:16:32.830 countries, but there's been lots of claims that... 00:16:32.669 --> 00:16:35.149 The eyes change color in these dolls. And the 00:16:35.149 --> 00:16:37.529 smile seems to get bigger from one day to the 00:16:37.529 --> 00:16:39.990 next. Some people on social media claim that 00:16:39.990 --> 00:16:42.269 they're, it changes their children's behavior. 00:16:42.309 --> 00:16:45.149 And that's pretty scary. That's a pretty scary 00:16:45.149 --> 00:16:49.049 claim. And others claim they hear voices. That's 00:16:49.049 --> 00:16:51.590 the general feeling of unease after owning the 00:16:51.590 --> 00:16:54.769 doll. And these are all kinds of signs of something 00:16:54.769 --> 00:16:57.210 that is attached to the doll, whether it's haunted, 00:16:57.289 --> 00:16:59.610 whether it's possessed. I tend to think that 00:16:59.610 --> 00:17:03.080 probably most of them are haunted. being actually 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.880 possessed and we can define, at least in my opinion, 00:17:06.019 --> 00:17:07.900 the difference between something being haunted 00:17:07.900 --> 00:17:11.819 and possessed. So in context, haunting is identified 00:17:11.819 --> 00:17:15.539 as a demon being attached to or influences an 00:17:15.539 --> 00:17:17.460 object or the immediate area surrounding it. 00:17:17.500 --> 00:17:19.660 And if something's possessed, typically in Christian 00:17:19.660 --> 00:17:22.839 theology, it's a demon taking direct control 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.099 of something or a living person. So whereas possession, 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.400 like the demon kind of lives in that vessel, 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.940 a haunting is like a conduit where it pops in 00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:33.539 and out. of during certain times or just is just 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:35.579 a mess with people. It's not so much the vessel 00:17:35.579 --> 00:17:37.779 that it permanently inhabits, but something that 00:17:37.779 --> 00:17:39.960 it comes and goes from. One of the things I always 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.640 think about, and this is just David Green talking 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.339 now, but when I think about children and I think 00:17:45.339 --> 00:17:47.900 about my son and my daughter, I think they're 00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:50.819 much closer to God than we are because they are 00:17:50.819 --> 00:17:54.140 young, especially at one and three, they're young. 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.539 They haven't been corrupted by sin yet. So they're 00:17:56.539 --> 00:17:58.900 closer to God because they're closer to purity, 00:17:58.980 --> 00:18:00.680 even though God washes all of our sins. when 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:02.559 we become saved Christians. I just still think 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.420 there's something special about that. Like they 00:18:04.420 --> 00:18:06.059 haven't gone down their sin journey yet and made 00:18:06.059 --> 00:18:08.259 a whole lot of mistakes. And I think about when 00:18:08.259 --> 00:18:11.980 I was a child, I remember when we were kids and 00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:14.480 I think it was St. Louis where we used to see 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.920 those shadow figures on the wall. I used to see 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.480 this butcher that used to go down in the shadows. 00:18:19.619 --> 00:18:21.400 And I think you used to see some things there 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.700 as well that were scary. And a lot of things 00:18:23.700 --> 00:18:25.380 we talk about, a lot of people say it's just 00:18:25.380 --> 00:18:27.079 children's imagination. They don't understand 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:29.460 what they're looking at. But I sometimes wonder 00:18:29.460 --> 00:18:32.910 if If the spirit of God is trying to influence 00:18:32.910 --> 00:18:35.690 the good and the spirit of the devil is trying 00:18:35.690 --> 00:18:38.289 to influence the bad. And there is at that young 00:18:38.289 --> 00:18:41.809 of an age, there is a kind of a war taking place 00:18:41.809 --> 00:18:44.250 of how that child is going to go down a pathway. 00:18:44.470 --> 00:18:46.930 And I wonder why they see or say these crazy 00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:48.490 things. You always see these videos. The kids 00:18:48.490 --> 00:18:50.430 say the darndest things. They talk about God 00:18:50.430 --> 00:18:52.029 or they talk about the devil or whatever the 00:18:52.029 --> 00:18:54.230 case may be. I just kind of wonder if they're 00:18:54.230 --> 00:18:56.470 a little bit closer to that source. Yeah, man. 00:18:56.490 --> 00:18:58.809 I remember we put together the connection about 00:18:58.829 --> 00:19:01.089 this butcher figure in our house in St. Louis 00:19:01.089 --> 00:19:03.730 only a couple of years ago. And my story with 00:19:03.730 --> 00:19:05.710 that is I used to have such a hard time sleeping 00:19:05.710 --> 00:19:07.930 at night because I used to get freaked out. I 00:19:07.930 --> 00:19:10.049 used to get so scared from movies like Freddy 00:19:10.049 --> 00:19:12.990 Krueger. Freddy Krueger is the worst because 00:19:12.990 --> 00:19:15.730 Freddy, Freddy Krueger would come to you in your 00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:17.250 dreams. So you can't even sleep because you'll 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:19.569 get murdered. So it used to terrify me. So I 00:19:19.569 --> 00:19:21.589 used to fight sleep all night. And then I used 00:19:21.589 --> 00:19:23.809 to try to sneak into mom and dad's room. And 00:19:23.809 --> 00:19:25.589 I remember I didn't want to wake them up or get 00:19:25.589 --> 00:19:28.359 them mad. So I would like cuddle like up. underneath 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:30.519 like the footboard of their bed and lay down 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.200 and try to sleep there at night. Or I try to 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.819 sneak into your room sometimes, but then eventually 00:19:33.819 --> 00:19:37.460 you get upset. So I went to this place where 00:19:37.460 --> 00:19:39.359 I would just crawl through the hall real, real 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:41.180 quietly, get at the footboard of mom and dad's 00:19:41.180 --> 00:19:42.900 bed and just try to sleep there. But you remember 00:19:42.900 --> 00:19:44.740 how the stairs would come up to the second floor. 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:46.740 Dude, I remember it like it was yesterday because 00:19:46.740 --> 00:19:50.099 it was so freaking scary. I saw a shadow of an 00:19:50.099 --> 00:19:52.890 arm. against the staircase with a butcher knife 00:19:52.890 --> 00:19:54.950 swinging up and down three or four times. It 00:19:54.950 --> 00:19:56.690 freaked me out so bad. I woke mom and dad up. 00:19:56.769 --> 00:19:58.890 I think dad got the gun and cleared the house. 00:19:58.930 --> 00:20:00.869 But I want to hear your butcher story. I want 00:20:00.869 --> 00:20:03.089 the audience to hear it because at first I think 00:20:03.089 --> 00:20:04.970 when you're a kid, you look at your memories 00:20:04.970 --> 00:20:07.369 like, did I make that up or was it an overactive 00:20:07.369 --> 00:20:10.089 imagination? And yes, we had active imaginations. 00:20:10.329 --> 00:20:12.769 We were very creative children, but that was 00:20:12.769 --> 00:20:15.390 not that. And I remember a couple of years ago, 00:20:15.390 --> 00:20:17.349 we were talking and you said, yeah, I used to 00:20:17.349 --> 00:20:19.410 see this butcher thing too. And I was like, dude, 00:20:19.670 --> 00:20:21.690 shut up. You're blowing my mind. So tell the 00:20:21.690 --> 00:20:23.869 audience your story. Yeah. I don't remember it 00:20:23.869 --> 00:20:26.349 a lot anymore. The older I get, the more I forget. 00:20:26.670 --> 00:20:30.569 But I remember being a child laying in bed and 00:20:30.569 --> 00:20:32.390 I still remember it to this day. We weren't in 00:20:32.390 --> 00:20:34.309 that St. Louis house very long before we had 00:20:34.309 --> 00:20:36.970 moved to Georgia. But in my room, I was in this 00:20:36.970 --> 00:20:39.750 cat -a -corner and I looked towards this pendant 00:20:39.750 --> 00:20:41.430 light, or what do they call them? The lights 00:20:41.430 --> 00:20:43.849 that hang down in the stairwells. And it used 00:20:43.849 --> 00:20:46.150 to always stay on. It would cast a shadow onto 00:20:46.150 --> 00:20:49.069 the wall that I would look at. And in that wall, 00:20:49.069 --> 00:20:51.470 as I laid in bed at night, I could literally 00:20:51.470 --> 00:20:53.890 see, and I know the guests can't see my arm right 00:20:53.890 --> 00:20:56.230 now, but I could see like the butcher arm coming 00:20:56.230 --> 00:20:59.150 up and down, like in the shadow. And it freaked 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:02.470 me the hell out to a point where it made me so 00:21:02.470 --> 00:21:05.109 scared. And you convinced me, you had these two 00:21:05.109 --> 00:21:06.589 rocks. I don't know if you remember this. You 00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:09.910 used to have these two rocks and one shot lasers 00:21:09.910 --> 00:21:12.690 and one threw bombs. And I can't remember which 00:21:12.690 --> 00:21:14.250 one he gave me. I think it was a bomb one, bro. 00:21:14.269 --> 00:21:16.769 If you fall asleep, this bomb rock will kill 00:21:16.769 --> 00:21:19.599 people or something. gave me some comfort there. 00:21:20.059 --> 00:21:24.559 Yeah, those rocks gave me comfort too. But yeah, 00:21:24.660 --> 00:21:26.500 man, the butcher thing was nuts because I thought 00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:29.039 it was just an experience I had, but it's weird 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:30.759 to hear that you had that experience too. It 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:32.279 freaks me out. But dude, it was weird because 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:34.119 once we left that house, I never saw it again. 00:21:34.420 --> 00:21:35.839 There's something about that house or what was 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.200 in the house or the area it was in somehow had 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:40.559 that presence tied to it. And it still freaks 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.660 me out to this day, man. I remember more about 00:21:42.660 --> 00:21:44.440 that house, which we weren't in very long. And 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:46.599 I was very young. I think I was kindergarten 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.619 age maybe. When we were there, but we were very 00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:52.059 young, but I still remember the safe spots. I 00:21:52.059 --> 00:21:53.880 remember I was hiding under your, you had this 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.119 cool like bunk bed thing. It was just one bed, 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:57.720 but it was like elevated and they used to give 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.430 you pull it out and you could hide. Yeah. But 00:22:03.430 --> 00:22:05.730 yeah, that was a crazy experience. But I think 00:22:05.730 --> 00:22:09.569 getting back to Labubu, as you were talking about 00:22:09.569 --> 00:22:12.210 how it looks. At first, I think it might sound 00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:15.049 absurd that this Pazuzu and this Labubu, by the 00:22:15.049 --> 00:22:17.769 way, names very similar, just switching out of 00:22:17.769 --> 00:22:20.190 vowel there. But when you start comparing the 00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:23.109 detail, the grin, the jagged teeth, the elongated 00:22:23.109 --> 00:22:26.410 ears, the posture, you begin to see this kind 00:22:26.410 --> 00:22:29.670 of familiar chill, this spiritual mimicry. That 00:22:29.670 --> 00:22:31.910 is the resemblance. It isn't just visual, but 00:22:31.910 --> 00:22:34.400 it's also. symbolic. What it reminds me of is 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:36.680 in the Bible. We are reminded again and again 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:39.220 that the spiritual realm is real. Ephesians 6 00:22:39.220 --> 00:22:42.500 -12, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.000 but against the principalities, against the powers, 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.160 against the rulers of the darkness of the world. 00:22:47.299 --> 00:22:50.559 When someone spreads through culture as fast 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.339 as Lububu did, when it captures hearts, when 00:22:53.339 --> 00:22:56.460 it captures wallets and captures attention across 00:22:56.460 --> 00:22:58.720 the world, and almost overnight, by the way, 00:22:58.859 --> 00:23:01.319 Christians have to ask what spirit is behind 00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:04.279 it. Because not every success is blessed and 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.960 not every image is harmless. To me, Pazuzu is 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:10.740 not just a fairy tale character. He's an ancient 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:14.220 entity recorded in Babylonian and Assyrian texts, 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.359 depicted with the body of a man, the wings of 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:20.160 an eagle, and the face of a beast. Archaeologists 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:23.019 have found countless amulets and idols carved 00:23:23.019 --> 00:23:25.819 with his image, used by pagans to invoke him. 00:23:25.859 --> 00:23:29.380 He was called the King of the Evil Wind Spirits. 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.299 People wore his likeness to ward off other demons, 00:23:32.579 --> 00:23:35.960 not realizing that inviting one darkness to fight 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.299 another still keeps you in the dark. And that's 00:23:38.299 --> 00:23:41.539 how deception works. Evil distinguishing itself 00:23:41.539 --> 00:23:44.599 as protection, even though it's evil itself. 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:47.579 Now I think we look again at Lububu. Wide, grand, 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:51.000 feral teeth, pointed ears like horns, yet dressed 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.980 in cute colors and childlike poses. It's the 00:23:53.980 --> 00:23:57.099 same spiritual inversion. darkness dressed up 00:23:57.099 --> 00:24:00.460 as charm. A demonic form softened into a friendly 00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:04.059 shape. So we welcome it into our homes. And scripture, 00:24:04.099 --> 00:24:07.960 by the way, warns us that Satan himself masquerades 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.359 as an angel of light. The devil rarely knocks 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.799 on your door in obvious form. He slides into 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.480 the shelf, into a pack labeled and collectible. 00:24:15.660 --> 00:24:18.059 I think when you realize that millions of people 00:24:18.059 --> 00:24:20.099 around the world have placed these figures in 00:24:20.099 --> 00:24:22.539 their bedrooms, in their offices, in their kids 00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:25.869 rooms, it starts to look less like marketing 00:24:25.869 --> 00:24:29.430 trend and more like mass desanitation. Every 00:24:29.430 --> 00:24:32.549 lububu drop becomes a ritual. People lining up, 00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:35.329 people worshiping it. That to me is not casual 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:37.869 consumption. That's liturgy. It's worship without 00:24:37.869 --> 00:24:40.130 awareness of what's being worshiped. The creature 00:24:40.130 --> 00:24:42.809 may be small, but it's functioning like an idol, 00:24:43.170 --> 00:24:45.589 like Moses when he had to come down and damn 00:24:45.589 --> 00:24:47.769 the people that they were worshiping the golden, 00:24:47.769 --> 00:24:50.650 I think it was bowl. What idols are not vessels 00:24:50.650 --> 00:24:53.490 for spirits that crave attention. Many don't 00:24:53.490 --> 00:24:56.990 understand this spiritual influence doesn't always 00:24:56.990 --> 00:25:00.210 come from conscious invitation. They're not simply 00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:02.210 just, eh, that will come on in. It comes through 00:25:02.210 --> 00:25:04.670 agreement. When you admire, repeat, and share, 00:25:04.910 --> 00:25:07.529 and emotionally invest into something that embodies 00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:10.589 rebellion, mockery, and that is grotesque, you're 00:25:10.589 --> 00:25:12.829 giving it power in your space. Whether you call 00:25:12.829 --> 00:25:16.430 it energy, vibe, or this collector's obsession, 00:25:16.589 --> 00:25:19.190 to me, it's all form of a spiritual exchange. 00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:22.109 The Lububu figure's connection to Pazuzu may 00:25:22.109 --> 00:25:24.640 not have been intended, but it's intention doesn't 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.559 erase influence. The ancient world was full of 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.160 objects that carried unseen forces and those 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.619 forces didn't die with them. They adapted to 00:25:32.619 --> 00:25:36.299 new forms. Bezuzu was once a demon of the wind 00:25:36.299 --> 00:25:38.720 and plague. In today's world, where ideals move 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.299 faster than air and culture kind of spreads like 00:25:41.299 --> 00:25:44.259 this contagion, to me, his spirit would thrive 00:25:44.259 --> 00:25:46.500 with variability. He is known to bring sickness 00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.859 and fear and then offer those false protections 00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:51.160 from it. I will take care of you when he cannot 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.119 and he doesn't have no power to, doesn't he? 00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:55.180 Sound familiar? We live in a time of anxiety 00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:58.200 and emptiness. Perfect soil for demonic marketing. 00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:00.740 A being that once rolled over invisible currents, 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.009 now rise digital one. A wind demon. Kind of reborn 00:26:04.009 --> 00:26:06.009 through the algorithm. So looking through scripture. 00:26:06.430 --> 00:26:09.210 So one that kind of pops up is like Detrimony 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:11.890 chapter seven, verses 25 and 26. It says you 00:26:11.890 --> 00:26:13.650 must burn up the images of their gods in the 00:26:13.650 --> 00:26:15.750 fire. Do not covet the silver or gold on them. 00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:17.950 Do not take it for yourselves or you will be 00:26:17.950 --> 00:26:20.049 ensnared by it. For it is detestable to the Lord 00:26:20.049 --> 00:26:22.910 your God. Do not bring any detestable thing into 00:26:22.910 --> 00:26:25.529 your house or you like it will be set apart for 00:26:25.529 --> 00:26:27.690 destruction. You must utterly detest and abhor 00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:29.589 it and set it apart for destruction. There's 00:26:29.589 --> 00:26:32.349 been a lot of cases of people getting these dolls. 00:26:32.329 --> 00:26:34.990 and experiencing some of these quote -unquote 00:26:34.990 --> 00:26:38.029 supernatural effects and burning them. And God 00:26:38.029 --> 00:26:40.789 commanded the Israelites to burn anything that 00:26:40.789 --> 00:26:44.009 is associated with idolatry, magic, sorcery. 00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:46.250 And that's what we're called to do. And another 00:26:46.250 --> 00:26:48.990 verse that kind of pops up in my research is 00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:51.509 Acts 19 .9. So essentially what that says is 00:26:51.509 --> 00:26:54.390 a number. So this is in regards to new Christians 00:26:54.390 --> 00:26:56.529 who converted from paganism to give it a little 00:26:56.529 --> 00:26:59.710 bit of context. And the verse states in the NIV, 00:27:00.130 --> 00:27:02.730 a number who had practiced brought their scrolls 00:27:02.730 --> 00:27:04.970 together and while some were telling the price, 00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:07.069 burned them up in front of everyone. They calculated 00:27:07.069 --> 00:27:08.950 the value of the scrolls and found it came out 00:27:08.950 --> 00:27:12.210 to 50 ,000 pieces of silver. So again, God's 00:27:12.210 --> 00:27:15.329 telling us as believers not to bring anything 00:27:15.329 --> 00:27:17.630 that's potentially detestable into our house. 00:27:17.750 --> 00:27:20.630 I do think a lot of these dolls, I don't think 00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:23.789 an object just becomes possessed or haunted by 00:27:23.789 --> 00:27:26.809 itself. I think it has to be purposely used in 00:27:26.809 --> 00:27:29.950 an occult ritual. It needs, there has to be the 00:27:29.950 --> 00:27:33.079 intention of somebody placing and opening that 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.380 door in the object in order for it to come to 00:27:35.380 --> 00:27:38.059 that state. Again, don't bring it into your house, 00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:40.500 guys. Like anything that's associated with something 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:43.720 demonic that calls itself a devil doll or is 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.240 a rendition, even a cute rendition of something 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.819 demonic, you're asking for trouble. And that 00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:52.019 is the antithesis of wisdom. It's talking about 00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:54.539 having discernment because the ritual could occur 00:27:54.539 --> 00:27:57.019 in the front end, meaning that they're doing 00:27:57.019 --> 00:28:00.400 the demonic spells as they produce these. toys 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.859 and push them to consumerism. And you're participating 00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:05.779 in it and you may not be like, I'm going to buy 00:28:05.779 --> 00:28:08.059 this doll because I want to worship it. I doubt 00:28:08.059 --> 00:28:10.480 very few people do that, but I actually saw something 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.720 very powerful in church many years ago. They 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.700 were showing what true worship looked like. And 00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:17.680 I don't remember whose concert it was, but they 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.000 showed this concert video and there was some 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.599 famous artists standing on stage and all the 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.319 guys and girls are jumping up and screaming and 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.880 trying to touch this person. And they were just 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.779 so happy to be in this guy's and listen to him 00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:33.059 sing, talk on stage. They didn't think they were 00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:36.160 worshiping him. But as you scream, cry, try to 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.279 touch his clothing, repeat his words, do all 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.819 those things that are on stage, that is a sense 00:28:41.819 --> 00:28:44.059 of worship. And then if you're doing the same 00:28:44.059 --> 00:28:45.819 thing with the Louboutin dolls and you're bringing 00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:47.799 them into your house as you line up in these 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.839 long lines or you pay these astronomical values 00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.740 to have them in your home, I don't know, $1 ,000, 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.660 five, whatever it takes, I'll buy it. That is 00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:56.500 a sense of worship. And you're in that handshake, 00:28:56.539 --> 00:28:58.490 in my opinion, at that point in time, where where 00:28:58.490 --> 00:29:01.390 now you're falling into this demonic ritual of 00:29:01.390 --> 00:29:04.130 having it in your home. So for my sake, I would 00:29:04.130 --> 00:29:06.430 tell people, yeah, burn those dolls, as you said. 00:29:06.549 --> 00:29:08.509 Let's burn those idols and get them out of our 00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:11.250 home. Because whether you intend it to, going 00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.470 through that process of this ritualistic of obtaining 00:29:14.470 --> 00:29:16.630 the item, falling into the trap. Yeah, I want 00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:18.890 to circle back where you said these people were 00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:21.690 trying to touch the dude singing the song. I 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:23.710 don't know, man. I argue that's like worshiping 00:29:23.710 --> 00:29:25.869 the performer. You're not really worshiping God 00:29:25.869 --> 00:29:28.410 if you're focused on the guy. singing the song 00:29:28.410 --> 00:29:30.410 and then giving him all the praise. That seems 00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:32.789 like - That was the point. Oh, gotcha. I misunderstood 00:29:32.789 --> 00:29:35.329 what you said. Pretend like it's Travis Scott. 00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:37.650 That's the point. They were symbolizing what 00:29:37.650 --> 00:29:40.309 worship should look like in church, like where 00:29:40.309 --> 00:29:42.130 you're supposed to be worshiping God in this 00:29:42.130 --> 00:29:44.769 fashion, but they were like an act of worship. 00:29:44.769 --> 00:29:46.549 I'm sorry. I misunderstood what you said. I thought 00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:48.869 you said they were at a worship service and instead 00:29:48.869 --> 00:29:50.630 of worshiping God, they're like, I'm going to 00:29:50.630 --> 00:29:53.789 touch this dude. He's awesome. I want to be like 00:29:53.789 --> 00:29:58.170 him. I got it now. Makes sense. I don't some 00:29:58.170 --> 00:29:59.829 of this research and we'll have to do an episode 00:29:59.829 --> 00:30:02.349 on this because this is I feel like this is like 00:30:02.349 --> 00:30:05.170 one of the I think forgotten things from the 00:30:05.170 --> 00:30:06.890 past and I'm not going to go into a whole lot 00:30:06.890 --> 00:30:09.609 of detail because I think this deserves its own 00:30:09.609 --> 00:30:12.599 episode but There's a lot of accounts that pre 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.299 -Christ's resurrection, a lot of these like idol 00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:17.940 statues and many cultures, Egypt, there's all 00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:19.640 kinds of stories and I would love to go through 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:21.960 them. But these like statues would actually, 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.940 when they were spoken to, like these idols would 00:30:24.940 --> 00:30:27.759 actually move, open their mouths, talk and speak. 00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:30.339 And it was a pretty common knowledge that pre 00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:33.259 -Jesus Christ that these statues were inanimate. 00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:35.900 Like they weren't just, they just weren't inanimate 00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:38.039 objects that people worship. They actually interacted. 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.960 You could hear them. They could move around. 00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:41.440 I don't think they were moving around in the 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.279 sense that they would run across the field or 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.339 run across the temple, but they would, you could 00:30:45.339 --> 00:30:47.569 interact with them. But interesting fact is like 00:30:47.569 --> 00:30:49.869 when Jesus died for our sins and resurrected, 00:30:50.269 --> 00:30:53.470 all that ceased and they attribute a lot of pagan 00:30:53.470 --> 00:30:56.170 culture death because all of a sudden these statues 00:30:56.170 --> 00:30:58.390 weren't animated anymore. And I think it's such 00:30:58.390 --> 00:31:01.710 a super interesting story that's lost in the 00:31:01.710 --> 00:31:04.069 halls of time. And I think it's often not brought 00:31:04.069 --> 00:31:06.549 up either because again, gives more evidence 00:31:06.549 --> 00:31:08.990 and credence to Jesus Christ being the son of 00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:11.089 God. Was that because they like, when Christ 00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:13.309 died and rose again for our sins, it was because 00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:16.990 he like purged evil? Yeah. He bound the spirits. 00:31:17.049 --> 00:31:19.289 He took all their power away so they couldn't 00:31:19.289 --> 00:31:21.869 operate in our world the same way they did before 00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:24.329 Christ. died and rose again, because when Christ 00:31:24.329 --> 00:31:26.630 died, he descended to the deep as well to preach 00:31:26.630 --> 00:31:28.650 the gospel there, you know, give judging. But 00:31:28.650 --> 00:31:31.309 a lot of the thought processes, at least on the 00:31:31.309 --> 00:31:33.930 theological side is that when he rose again, 00:31:33.950 --> 00:31:35.829 he took all their power away. Like they still 00:31:35.829 --> 00:31:37.769 manifest here and there, but they had to operate 00:31:37.769 --> 00:31:40.250 in a different way. Not like the very visible, 00:31:40.269 --> 00:31:42.950 you go to the temple and they could actually 00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:45.690 say stuff to you. But once Christ rose from the 00:31:45.690 --> 00:31:48.130 dead, that all stopped. Great topic. I would 00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:50.170 love to get into it here, probably in November, 00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:53.829 but Egyptians have. these stories, Greeks, Romans. 00:31:54.029 --> 00:31:56.369 But like I said, once Christ rose from the dead, 00:31:56.609 --> 00:31:58.490 that all that stopped, all that behavior stopped. 00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.289 That's interesting. I haven't heard of that one. 00:32:00.349 --> 00:32:02.490 I look forward to diving into it. It actually 00:32:02.490 --> 00:32:05.210 reminded me of, and I don't know why. And I was 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:08.849 watching this film in reference to the moon landing, 00:32:08.849 --> 00:32:11.170 and I was just watching it briefly as I was working 00:32:11.170 --> 00:32:13.990 today. And it was these two astronauts that had 00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:17.630 supposedly landed on the moon. And my feelings 00:32:17.630 --> 00:32:19.869 is I'm not sure it actually happened. But listening 00:32:19.869 --> 00:32:21.839 to them, and this was a kind of have a case for 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.339 Christ. And they said they landed on the moon. 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.299 And I don't remember these astronauts names, 00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.339 but they were like, they talked to each other 00:32:28.339 --> 00:32:30.099 on the moon. Obviously had communications in 00:32:30.099 --> 00:32:32.059 their helmets as they're walking on the surface. 00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.539 And they said, I could hear his thoughts before 00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:36.599 he actually said his words. It was just like, 00:32:36.819 --> 00:32:39.039 it freaked me out. Like the communication between 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.359 us two was totally different than anything else 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.279 I experienced on earth. And as he went down this 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.920 rabbit hole of why it could have happened, he 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.799 said, I think that was God's original design. 00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:53.619 He goes, What they say is that devil has dominion 00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:56.440 over earth, but we weren't on earth. We were 00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.660 on the moon that was encrypted by sin at that 00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:00.900 point in time. So that it was different. I don't 00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:02.339 know if I believe that, but I thought it was 00:33:02.339 --> 00:33:05.460 an interesting theory is if we ever were to build 00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:08.940 a new civilization on the moon or on Mars, would 00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:12.019 it have the same kind of playbook? Like, obviously. 00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:14.359 Karstaden for our sins is the same playbook, 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.720 but would the devil be able to go to those places? 00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:18.380 There's an interesting theory. I don't know if 00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:21.140 I believe it or not, but there's some researcher. 00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.119 I don't know if I mean, he believes in Christ. 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.740 I don't know if he's theologically sound, but 00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:28.440 he claims that before the tower of Babel was 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.519 destroyed, we could all communicate telepathically. 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.460 And then when God destroyed the tower of Babel, 00:33:32.539 --> 00:33:34.119 he suffered that connection that we were able 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.880 to do. So that's why he thinks, I wish I remembered 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.819 the guy's name. I wasn't prepared to have this 00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:42.220 conversation, but he said that pre Babel. we 00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:44.900 could speak orally, but most of the communication 00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:47.460 was done through telepathy. And then that's why 00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:49.299 when God destroyed the Tower of Babel, that's 00:33:49.299 --> 00:33:51.480 why we ended up developing so many different 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.200 like root languages. That's actually the word 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.240 I was looking for, that they were speaking, even 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:56.420 though they were saying it, they were hearing 00:33:56.420 --> 00:33:58.720 it like a few seconds in advance, and he thought 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.059 it was like telepathic. And it's interesting 00:34:01.059 --> 00:34:03.259 to think about that I'm not a believer that we'll 00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:06.019 actually have a full like civilization on any 00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:08.599 other planet besides Earth before God comes back 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:10.480 and destroys this world. But it's interesting 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:12.909 to think if we do does the same kind of rule 00:34:12.909 --> 00:34:15.489 book apply to where the devil can go there and 00:34:15.489 --> 00:34:17.510 do all those things or else does it have to go 00:34:17.510 --> 00:34:20.329 through this new fall? I don't know. Don't think 00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:22.269 it will ever happen. Yeah. No, I think that whole 00:34:22.269 --> 00:34:23.969 fall thing has to do with humans. So I think 00:34:23.969 --> 00:34:26.190 where we go that fall nature is still going to 00:34:26.190 --> 00:34:28.190 be with us until everything is renewed. Yeah. 00:34:28.269 --> 00:34:30.349 I think what I'm talking about though is the 00:34:30.349 --> 00:34:32.010 devil happened to have been in because God gave 00:34:32.010 --> 00:34:34.809 him earth that he would he give him Mars or Mars 00:34:34.809 --> 00:34:37.389 or the moon. You won't get super crazy in conspiracy 00:34:37.389 --> 00:34:40.010 theories. I think there's a theory that you know 00:34:40.010 --> 00:34:41.570 how there's There's like an asteroid belt between 00:34:41.570 --> 00:34:44.329 Earth and Mars. And the theory was that was like 00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:46.510 the devil's planet on time and God completely 00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:49.130 annihilated it. Do I believe it? No, but it's 00:34:49.130 --> 00:34:50.989 an interesting theory, sci -fi thing to look 00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:52.750 into. Yeah, that's interesting. I've heard that. 00:34:52.750 --> 00:34:54.550 That's cool. All right, let's keep this on track. 00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:56.349 I do have a couple of interesting stories about 00:34:56.349 --> 00:34:59.409 the Lububu dolls that I researched online. So 00:34:59.409 --> 00:35:01.489 here's the first one. It's called The Collector 00:35:01.489 --> 00:35:06.030 Who Woke at 314 AM. She said she brought a Lubu 00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:07.929 on a whim. She got lucky because they're very 00:35:07.929 --> 00:35:11.559 hard to find. of those late night online purchases 00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.139 that feels innocent until it arrives at your 00:35:14.139 --> 00:35:16.719 doorstep. When the box came, she absolutely loved 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.480 it. The little fingering, the strange comfort 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.559 in its stair. She placed it on the shelf across 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.739 from her bed. Seems like an odd location. The 00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:26.960 first night she woke up suddenly. Clock said 00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.619 3 .14 a .m. She really thought nothing of it 00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:31.719 until it happened again the next night. And then 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.900 again, and every night, the same exact time she 00:35:34.900 --> 00:35:37.280 woke up at 3 .14 a .m. After several nights, 00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:40.039 she noticed the doll wasn't sitting quite the 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.019 same. Its head had turned slightly toward her. 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.079 She convinced herself. She bumped the shelf. 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.420 She put it back, faced forward, and went back 00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:49.340 to bed. At 314 A .M., the next night, the sound 00:35:49.340 --> 00:35:51.619 of something sliding against the wood pulled 00:35:51.619 --> 00:35:53.559 her out of her sleep. She flicked on the lamp, 00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:56.260 and the Labubu was facing her again. The grin 00:35:56.260 --> 00:35:58.699 seemed wider in the yellow light. Her cat hissed 00:35:58.699 --> 00:36:01.400 from the doorway. Fur bristled. She swore the 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.420 air smelled faintly of burnt sugar, sweet and 00:36:04.420 --> 00:36:06.960 rotten. She moved the doll to another room, but 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.699 the waking up didn't stop. She told Reddit later, 00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:11.880 I don't think the doll is haunted. I think the 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.699 time is. And that to me sounds exactly like the 00:36:14.699 --> 00:36:17.960 kind of confusions demons love when fear becomes 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.340 fascination. She was still not convinced this 00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:22.539 doll, even though it was turning his head, was 00:36:22.539 --> 00:36:24.900 possessed. It was just something about this time 00:36:24.900 --> 00:36:28.699 at 3 14 a .m. The next one called the trip home. 00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:31.840 Another story came from a woman in northern Italy. 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.239 She bought this doll during a trip to Tokyo, 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.880 a souvenir, she called it. She said because it 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.530 looked like mischief with a smile. But once she 00:36:39.530 --> 00:36:43.050 got home, her dog refused to come near the suitcase 00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:45.429 it was in. That night she unpacked it. The power 00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:47.949 flickered. By morning, her husband found the 00:36:47.949 --> 00:36:51.289 TV unplugged and the patio door wide open, even 00:36:51.289 --> 00:36:53.889 though the alarm was set and it did not go off. 00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:56.469 Over the next week, the animals on their property 00:36:56.469 --> 00:36:59.750 grew agitated. Birds flew right into their windows. 00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:02.230 The family horse kicked through the stall doors. 00:37:02.409 --> 00:37:04.980 Her neighbor joked, that she brought home a curse. 00:37:05.099 --> 00:37:07.539 She laughed until the night she dreamed of something 00:37:07.539 --> 00:37:10.420 small, crawling across her chest and whispering 00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:13.099 the name of her child. See, at that point, she 00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:15.639 mailed the doll to a cousin two towns away. Within 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.360 two days, her cousin called her and said, I think 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.280 this thing is moving. They decided to burn it. 00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:22.480 Smoke smelled like plastic and cinnamon. The 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.440 cousin said, when it melted, I heard something 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.019 hiss, not the fire, something else. That's true 00:37:27.019 --> 00:37:29.500 or not, no one knows, but the family never spoke 00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:31.260 about the little boo boo again. I want to go 00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:33.599 back to your first story. interesting because 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.119 the hour between three and four AM is known as 00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.679 the witching hour, the devil's hour. Yeah. And 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.000 apparently a lot of people have, I get up every 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:42.679 night at three, three AM because I have to take 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:50.039 a massive pee. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, it's 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.139 interesting because it's three AM to four AM 00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:54.219 is typically the inversion of Christ because 00:37:54.219 --> 00:37:56.219 most people think that Christ died at three PM. 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.739 So just the devil. doing what he does is inverting 00:37:59.739 --> 00:38:02.920 everything. But yeah, I find it interesting that 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:05.159 this woman's waking up at three, 14, and it's 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:06.820 right during the witching hour of the devil's 00:38:06.820 --> 00:38:10.039 hour. 100%. And the next story is called the 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.039 video that watched back. One of the most viral 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.539 clips came from TikTok. Guy set his little boo 00:38:15.539 --> 00:38:18.119 -boo on a shelf and left the camera running overnight. 00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:21.300 The caption on it said, testing the myth. At 00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:25.360 2 .59 AM, the footage shows nothing, just a still 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.630 room. Then for a single frame, the doll - Paul's 00:38:27.630 --> 00:38:30.769 head is turned by 301. It's back. Now people 00:38:30.769 --> 00:38:33.050 argued it was editing, but the next video was 00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:35.750 worse. The man posted that his ring light turned 00:38:35.750 --> 00:38:41.550 on by itself at 314 AM. Oh gosh. He showed the 00:38:41.550 --> 00:38:43.969 timestamp. Comments flooded in. Mine does that 00:38:43.969 --> 00:38:48.449 too. I've seen this before. It's always 314 AM. 00:38:49.210 --> 00:38:52.019 Then he went silent. Account. was deleted. Another 00:38:52.019 --> 00:38:54.980 user claimed to be his roommate and said the 00:38:54.980 --> 00:38:57.719 guy moved out suddenly after hearing a child 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.099 giggle through the air vents. The video still 00:39:00.099 --> 00:39:02.800 circulates in low res reposts, glitching every 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.340 few seconds like it doesn't want to be watched. 00:39:05.500 --> 00:39:07.039 Next we're going to go to the next one, the nursery 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.460 gift. A young mother received a little boo -boo 00:39:09.460 --> 00:39:12.760 as a gift from her sister, a pastel colored version, 00:39:12.860 --> 00:39:15.460 cute enough for a nursery shelf. She placed it 00:39:15.460 --> 00:39:18.280 next to her baby monitor. For the first few nights, 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:20.170 everything was perfectly fine. Then she She began 00:39:20.170 --> 00:39:22.750 hearing faint static from the monitor, followed 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:25.610 by what sounded like humming. Not the baby's, 00:39:25.610 --> 00:39:28.889 not hers, just a low sing -song tune. One night, 00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:31.190 she looked at the monitor screen and saw movement. 00:39:31.389 --> 00:39:34.650 Baby was still asleep. But something small and 00:39:34.650 --> 00:39:37.070 shadow -colored shifting beside the crib rail. 00:39:37.190 --> 00:39:39.369 She ran it. Nothing there. But when she looked 00:39:39.369 --> 00:39:41.969 back at the monitor, the Labubu wasn't on the 00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:44.170 shelf anymore. She found it on the floor beside 00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:46.809 the crib, sitting upright facing the baby. The 00:39:46.809 --> 00:39:50.050 sister who had given it swore she bought it from 00:39:50.050 --> 00:39:53.030 the official pop mark drop. No rituals, no curses, 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:55.559 just commerce. But that mother took no chances. 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.320 She buried it under a maple tree in the backyard 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.480 and prayed over the soil. She told her pastor 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.099 later, it's probably silly. He said, no, it's 00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:04.840 discernment. You got to burn it. You got to burn 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.679 it, man. And the last story here is called the 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:09.900 triangle expert. This one started as a joke on 00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:11.960 Reddit. The user posted, if you line up three 00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.719 Labooboos in a triangle and say the words from 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.280 the creepy nursery rhyme, something happens. 00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:19.980 People laughed until a few tried it. One commenter 00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:23.280 said his lights flickered and his Alexa device 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.820 began talking. even though it was unplugged. 00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:28.699 Another claimed his phone camera crashed. Reopening 00:40:28.699 --> 00:40:31.739 it, it showed a blurred image of a grinning face 00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:34.019 that wasn't the doll's. A few weeks later, a 00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:36.760 small Discord group dedicated to testing haunted 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.039 little booboos went silent. One of the moderators 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.400 posted the last message. Don't do the triangle, 00:40:41.539 --> 00:40:44.539 it's not a meme. Their subreddit thread was deleted 00:40:44.539 --> 00:40:46.980 two days later. Was it performance art, viral 00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:49.820 marketing, or just another digital seance carried 00:40:49.820 --> 00:40:51.960 out for likes? Maybe, but that's the problem 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.570 with modern world. Even - the jokes sound like 00:40:54.570 --> 00:40:56.789 rituals. But I think what we see here, there's 00:40:56.789 --> 00:40:59.630 many stories out there as if these dolls hauntings 00:40:59.630 --> 00:41:02.110 and this crazy stuff happening, but points back 00:41:02.110 --> 00:41:05.010 to demonic possession. Yeah. I just urge everyone 00:41:05.010 --> 00:41:07.210 listening to be careful with this. Not even be 00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:09.449 careful. Just don't touch it. I think sometimes 00:41:09.449 --> 00:41:11.909 even if these things aren't quote unquote haunted 00:41:11.909 --> 00:41:14.510 or possessed, if you go with the intention of 00:41:14.510 --> 00:41:16.710 an expectation, something's going to manifest 00:41:16.710 --> 00:41:18.809 in it. And it's something that you yourself cannot 00:41:18.809 --> 00:41:20.869 defend against. The only way you can defend against 00:41:20.869 --> 00:41:22.969 it is with the power of Jesus Christ. This is 00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:24.949 why I'm hesitant to do some of these episodes 00:41:24.949 --> 00:41:26.750 and tell some of these stories because inevitably 00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:30.010 somebody out there gets curious and ends up bringing 00:41:30.010 --> 00:41:33.170 something into their living space or onto their 00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:36.130 person thinking it's cool or it's a joke. And 00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:38.309 I don't know, man. I guess this topic's a hard 00:41:38.309 --> 00:41:41.230 one for me. It's just tough, man. To put it plainly, 00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:44.170 life and death, more importantly, the afterlife, 00:41:44.389 --> 00:41:46.710 is more important than testing any stupid prank. 00:41:46.949 --> 00:41:50.070 So stay close to God, have discernment, stay 00:41:50.070 --> 00:41:52.269 away from this shit because it's... Not worth 00:41:52.269 --> 00:41:54.449 it. It's not just simply ghost and goblins as 00:41:54.449 --> 00:41:57.429 you read about in books. It's the devil prowling 00:41:57.429 --> 00:42:00.630 the earth like a lion, as it clearly states in 00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:02.349 the Bible. Yeah. It's one thing to be wise and 00:42:02.349 --> 00:42:04.670 shrewd. I think it's good to know that there 00:42:04.670 --> 00:42:07.030 is stuff out there. So we know to stay away from 00:42:07.030 --> 00:42:08.949 it, or we know how to protect ourselves from 00:42:08.949 --> 00:42:10.969 it. It's the only thing that goes searching for 00:42:10.969 --> 00:42:13.030 it. God doesn't want you, he doesn't want you 00:42:13.030 --> 00:42:14.989 to talk to mediums. He doesn't want you to talk 00:42:14.989 --> 00:42:16.949 to psychics. He doesn't want you doing Ouija 00:42:16.949 --> 00:42:19.889 boards, tarot cards, these stupid crystals people 00:42:19.889 --> 00:42:21.699 bring into their houses. they all have something 00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:23.539 attached to it. And even if they don't, when 00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:25.179 you bring them in, if you have the intention 00:42:25.179 --> 00:42:27.320 of manifesting something into it, you can do 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.900 it. It's not you doing it. It's you inviting 00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:33.099 something into it. So I just urge anybody who 00:42:33.099 --> 00:42:34.980 has this stuff in their house to pray over it 00:42:34.980 --> 00:42:38.039 in Jesus' name, bless their house, cast out any 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.119 evil and clean spirits out of their environment, 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.260 off their person. And if it gets bad enough, 00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:45.340 even Jesus said that the apostles went out and 00:42:45.340 --> 00:42:47.099 they were able to cast some demons out and they 00:42:47.099 --> 00:42:48.679 came back to Christ and said, there were some 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:50.800 people that were possessed and I couldn't cast 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.099 them out. Like why? And Jesus said, those can 00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:55.179 only be cast out through prayer and fasting. 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.420 So there is a hierarchy with some of this stuff 00:42:57.420 --> 00:43:00.139 where you have to take that extra step fast, 00:43:00.380 --> 00:43:03.280 no food, no drink, some out of days, hours, whatever, 00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:05.840 and with intense prayer. So you don't want to 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.460 get to that point where you've invited something 00:43:08.460 --> 00:43:10.440 in that's so strong that the next thing you know, 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.699 you're in continual prayer, you're fasting, you're 00:43:12.699 --> 00:43:16.039 abstaining food, water. The best and wisest decision 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.099 is not to even mess with it. Know what's out 00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:20.519 there so you know what to avoid. And just come 00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.699 in with the full armor of God, knowing that he 00:43:22.699 --> 00:43:24.840 can and will protect you. We've said this hundreds 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.260 of times on this show. Ask for prayer, for wisdom 00:43:27.260 --> 00:43:29.300 and discernment. Prayer is your most powerful 00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:31.500 weapon against all this stuff. And the knowledge, 00:43:31.659 --> 00:43:33.500 the shrewdness to know what it is and what to 00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:35.199 avoid. Listen to your spirit. Your spirit is 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.900 going to guide you and tell you if something 00:43:36.900 --> 00:43:39.119 is evil, if it's for you, if it's not. A lot 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.719 of this stuff is very tempting. It's very, it 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.980 can even be seen as sexy and cool and, but it's 00:43:44.980 --> 00:43:47.059 all bad, man. We're all appointed to die once. 00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:49.289 Not all of us are appointed to die. twice and 00:43:49.289 --> 00:43:51.110 trust me, you don't want to be part of that second 00:43:51.110 --> 00:43:52.469 death. Cause that, that one you're not coming 00:43:52.469 --> 00:43:54.630 back from. Yeah. It's that's the point of doing 00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:56.489 this show though, because you could have some 00:43:56.489 --> 00:43:59.090 emo that believes in God and just thinks this 00:43:59.090 --> 00:44:00.769 doll is really cute and wants to take it home 00:44:00.769 --> 00:44:03.250 with them. And maybe the heroes and say, I do 00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:05.090 believe in God and I don't want this satanic 00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:07.650 thing. I just want the fangs or coal or whatever. 00:44:07.949 --> 00:44:11.409 So maybe we could head something off there. But 00:44:11.409 --> 00:44:13.289 I think a lot of people ask, why are you just 00:44:13.289 --> 00:44:15.150 talking about la boo boo? Cause there's a lot 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.530 of things that have occurred. This is not the 00:44:17.530 --> 00:44:19.789 first. time it's happened. It's just what's popular 00:44:19.789 --> 00:44:23.150 in culture now. Have you heard about the Annabelle 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:26.610 case, the raggedy doll behind the glass? Yeah, 00:44:26.610 --> 00:44:29.389 they made big movies about it. I forget what 00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:31.090 they're called, like the Conjuring. Maybe it's 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:33.570 not the Conjuring, but yeah, like they're associated 00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:37.610 with Ed and Lorraine Warren, I think. Yeah. So 00:44:37.610 --> 00:44:40.769 picture this. A quiet museum room, lights dimmed, 00:44:40.889 --> 00:44:43.150 air thick with the weight of silence. And behind 00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:46.210 the glass, a simple doll sets up a fabric body, 00:44:46.449 --> 00:44:49.579 red yarn. button eyes that just seem a little 00:44:49.579 --> 00:44:51.960 too knowing. Next to her, a plight little sign 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.480 that says, only one word, warning, the doll's 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.179 name is Annabelle. The story begins back in the 00:44:57.179 --> 00:45:00.179 1970s. A nursing student received a Raggedy Ann 00:45:00.179 --> 00:45:03.380 doll as a gift from her mother. Sweet, sentimental, 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.519 innocent. But innocence can't be the perfect 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.659 disguise. At first, it's just small things. Tiny 00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:11.940 movements, the feeling that the doll isn't quite 00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:14.940 where it was before. Then come the notes written 00:45:14.940 --> 00:45:17.239 on parchment the students... own with messages 00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.800 like help us. A medium is called, claiming the 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:21.900 spirit of a young girl named Annabel Higgins 00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:25.000 has attached itself to the doll. The girls, moved 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.019 by sympathy, allow the child to stay. That was 00:45:28.019 --> 00:45:30.559 their mistake. A strange occurrence grows darker. 00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:33.139 Scratches appear on the walls. Shadows move across 00:45:33.139 --> 00:45:35.679 the floor. One man nearly crashes his car after 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.820 mocking the doll. Fear becomes a presence in 00:45:37.820 --> 00:45:40.260 the apartment. Doors slam. Objects levitate. 00:45:40.500 --> 00:45:43.400 And what began as curiosity turns into oppression. 00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:45.940 Finally, the paranormal investigators Ed and 00:45:45.940 --> 00:45:47.940 Lorraine Warren, as you said, devout Catholics 00:45:47.940 --> 00:45:50.139 are brought in. They determined that no innocent 00:45:50.139 --> 00:45:53.559 child spirit was ever there. What they had is 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:55.639 deceived those young woman was something far 00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:58.400 older, far curler, demonic entity, using the 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.179 image of innocence to gain permission into their 00:46:01.179 --> 00:46:03.360 home. The Warrens took the doll, sealed it, and 00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.400 placed it inside the occult museum. And the warning 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.059 was simple, do not touch, do not open. To this 00:46:08.059 --> 00:46:10.760 day, Annabelle sits behind the glass case. Rosaries 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.380 draped across the enclosure, prayers written 00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:16.730 around it like... caged words, and visitors report 00:46:16.730 --> 00:46:20.599 nausea, dizziness, sudden cold. Now, some mock 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.519 her and pay her for it. Accidents, illness, eerie 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.860 coincidence that seemed too precise, too random. 00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:28.679 Now, skeptics call it folklore and superstition 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.780 turned into spectacle, but believers and the 00:46:31.780 --> 00:46:34.400 Warrens were clear about this. Call it a conduit, 00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:37.079 an object that deliberately used by a demonic 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.019 spirit to maintain influence through fear and 00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:42.300 fascination. Because that is how the demonic 00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:45.500 presence works. It feeds on that intention, much 00:46:45.500 --> 00:46:49.070 like Labubu, and it thrives on the story. Do 00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:51.030 you ever, maybe you know the answer to this because 00:46:51.030 --> 00:46:53.809 I don't, I don't understand. They collect this 00:46:53.809 --> 00:46:55.769 occult stuff like this possessed stuff. Why do 00:46:55.769 --> 00:46:58.909 you think they collect it and lock it behind 00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:01.769 a door or a window and not destroy it? Does that 00:47:01.769 --> 00:47:04.050 make any sense to you? I don't grasp that whole 00:47:04.050 --> 00:47:06.849 concept. To me, it's fear and fascination. Like 00:47:06.849 --> 00:47:10.119 it's a way to study it. to observe it, but they 00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.000 think because they lock it behind glass that 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.960 they can be safe from it. It's in this isolated 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.659 location. It's locked behind this vault and key 00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:20.000 and it won't bother anybody, but we can play 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.420 with it. We can experience it when we want to. 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.139 And they don't quite want to destroy it because 00:47:25.139 --> 00:47:28.059 they, it comes down to this academic perspective 00:47:28.059 --> 00:47:30.679 of it. So I think that's why folks collect the 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.460 occult, but they try to make it safe in those 00:47:33.460 --> 00:47:35.280 regards. But the thing is, in my opinion, and 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:36.780 this is just my, you can never make it safe. 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.360 Like now. You're tempting someone. I don't know 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.820 if I think these people were both dead, but one 00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:43.360 day someone's going to take it out and bring 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.519 it somewhere. I just don't understand the concept 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.980 of it's like playing with fire to a certain extent. 00:47:48.099 --> 00:47:49.440 Like you have a match and you're playing with 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.159 gasoline and you're hoping you don't strike it 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:52.719 and it flies out of your hand. And next thing 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.300 you're starting to raging forest fire. I've always, 00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:57.679 I'm not, this isn't me being judgmental or being 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.199 critical. I've always struggled with those two 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.360 because they, and again, I'm not, I don't know 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:04.219 their hearts and I don't really know their stories 00:48:04.219 --> 00:48:06.219 other than what you see that's put in some sort 00:48:06.219 --> 00:48:09.719 of fantastic. type narrative on TV to sell tickets. 00:48:09.820 --> 00:48:12.199 I just never understood why they did some of 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.960 the stuff that they did, like keeping the stuff. 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.340 God says to destroy it. Like he commands you 00:48:17.340 --> 00:48:19.360 destroy it. It was so bad that even these idols 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.320 that they burnt down, God did not want you to 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.019 keep the gold and silver, which was worth money. 00:48:23.059 --> 00:48:25.260 Like he just wanted you to get rid of it forever. 00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:27.519 And like they're collecting it. Is it to sell 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.900 money? If you're a Christian and if these people 00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:33.159 claim that they were like, wouldn't you know 00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:34.699 what it is? You don't need to study it. Are you 00:48:34.699 --> 00:48:36.969 trying to prove it to unbelievers? I mean at 00:48:36.969 --> 00:48:39.280 this point you just get rid of it. Forever. Unless 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.159 the only other thing I can figure is that they 00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:43.019 think that this demon's trapped in there and 00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:44.760 they don't want to release it. If they destroy 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.320 it, they think maybe it would, like with Jesus 00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.780 with the pigs where he cast them out of, or he 00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:51.199 cast them out of the man and he put them in pigs. 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:52.860 The only thing I can figure is that maybe they 00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:55.119 come to the conclusion that if they destroy this 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.440 object that this demon possesses, that it will 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.239 go somewhere else. Maybe. I just think it's the 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:03.980 human experience. Like it's this fascination 00:49:03.980 --> 00:49:06.039 where they don't quite want to destroy it, but 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.440 they don't want to harm anybody. isolate it, 00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.239 and perhaps they made a lot of money off this 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:11.920 stuff as well. I think they did a lot of good 00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:14.460 things, but they also made money off of it. Yeah, 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.300 if someone knows, if a listener knows why they 00:49:17.300 --> 00:49:19.260 keep it instead of destroy it, I would love to 00:49:19.260 --> 00:49:21.039 know. This email is, I think it's in the show 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.099 notes. Yeah, let us know. I think the Bible's 00:49:23.099 --> 00:49:24.599 pretty clear that you should just destroy it. 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:26.679 Right. I don't think a demon is just going to 00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.719 hang out in a doll. They're supernatural. They 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.059 can go wherever. Like why would they just hang 00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:32.619 out in the doll if they're like, I'm just going 00:49:32.619 --> 00:49:34.340 to hang out behind this glass cage for the next 00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:37.730 50 years. The next case I researched. was called 00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:39.929 Robert the Dull. Have you heard of Robert the 00:49:39.929 --> 00:49:42.860 Dull? I ran across it in my research, but you 00:49:42.860 --> 00:49:44.840 go ahead and tell the story. So this one's pretty 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.699 interesting. Down in Key West, behind glass of 00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:51.159 a museum case, there's such a doll named Robert. 00:49:51.219 --> 00:49:53.539 He's about the size of a small child dressed 00:49:53.539 --> 00:49:55.760 in a sailor suit, holding little stuffed animal 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.260 of his own, almost a child kind of imitating 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:00.780 his parent. His face is worn smooth, his butt 00:50:00.780 --> 00:50:03.400 and eyes clouded and uneven, but there's something 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.300 about his stillness that doesn't feel at all 00:50:06.300 --> 00:50:09.079 still. The story goes that Robert once belonged 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.440 to a boy named named Robert Eugene Odo back in 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:14.920 the early 1900s. The boy adored him, spoke to 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.280 him, took him everywhere. But soon, strange things 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.539 started happening. The boy's parents would hear 00:50:19.539 --> 00:50:22.440 him whispering to the doll, only to hear a deeper 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.139 voice answer right back. Years later, when the 00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:28.000 boy grew up and moved away. Yeah, sure, Robert. 00:50:28.739 --> 00:50:31.360 It's like my son saying, Emma did it. You can't 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.400 even do it. Years later, when the boy grew up 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.900 and moved away, he left the doll behind in his 00:50:37.900 --> 00:50:40.039 family home, propped up in a... window overlooking 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.480 the street. A passerby claimed they still saw 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.559 it blink, tilt its head, or press its hand against 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.619 the glass if it was watching them. Eventually, 00:50:47.739 --> 00:50:51.320 the doll was donated to the East Martello Museum, 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.300 where it still sits today, encased, but not entirely 00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:57.039 silent. Now the story has evolved into something 00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.599 interactive, the curse that invites participation. 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.059 The rule is simple. If you take Robert's photo 00:51:02.059 --> 00:51:04.659 without asking his permission, bad luck follows. 00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:08.079 Car troubles, illness, sudden arguments, or unexpected 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.289 bills. The only way to undo it, they say, is 00:51:10.289 --> 00:51:12.730 to write him a letter of apology. The museum 00:51:12.730 --> 00:51:15.769 has received thousands of letters over the years, 00:51:15.949 --> 00:51:18.590 neatly folded in envelopes, handwritten, and 00:51:18.590 --> 00:51:20.590 trembling. Dear Robert, I'm sorry I laughed. 00:51:20.690 --> 00:51:22.829 My car died. My phone cracked. My boss yelled 00:51:22.829 --> 00:51:25.409 at me. If you please forgive me, I'll never mock 00:51:25.409 --> 00:51:29.090 you again. And people mean it. And people mean 00:51:29.090 --> 00:51:32.510 it. They repent to this doll. And that part that 00:51:32.510 --> 00:51:35.809 chills me the most. Because when repentance is 00:51:35.809 --> 00:51:38.789 misplaced, as you stated, it becomes worship. 00:51:38.989 --> 00:51:41.809 When fear drives you to seek forgiveness from 00:51:41.809 --> 00:51:44.309 a spirit, you're not escaping the curse. You're 00:51:44.309 --> 00:51:46.889 absolutely feeding it. And I think from a Christian 00:51:46.889 --> 00:51:49.650 perspective, this is a textbook deception. It's 00:51:49.650 --> 00:51:53.449 what happens when reverence replaces reason and 00:51:53.449 --> 00:51:55.849 fear replaces faith. The first commandment tells 00:51:55.849 --> 00:51:58.409 us plainly, you shall have no other gods before 00:51:58.409 --> 00:52:01.250 me. Yeah, here we are watching people mail letters 00:52:01.250 --> 00:52:04.070 to a stuffed figure believe in their misfortune 00:52:04.070 --> 00:52:06.570 depends on its approval. The demonic doesn't 00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:09.440 always Sometimes it sits quietly in a museum, 00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.039 dressed like a seller, waiting for someone to 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.400 believe in it again. Man, that's crazy, man. 00:52:14.460 --> 00:52:17.380 That's no different than 1000 BC, someone going 00:52:17.380 --> 00:52:20.760 up to a golden idol and praying to it and asking 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.400 for forgiveness. When the only person you'd ask 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.340 for forgiveness is Jesus Christ, man. He's quick 00:52:25.340 --> 00:52:27.679 to forgive, really quick to forgive. And all 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.260 the power lies in Christ. None of the power lies 00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:32.880 with the demonic force. Christ says, how many 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.639 times in the Bible do not fear? The only thing 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:36.639 you should fear is God. That's it. That's the 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.300 only thing you need to fear is God and he loves 00:52:38.300 --> 00:52:40.360 you. There's a big difference. Like he loves 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.639 you and he forgives you and he wants you and 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.880 he wants a relationship and he's quick to forgive 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.320 and slow to anchor. It's insanity to me. And 00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.079 even think about the Old Testament, we're fortunate. 00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:52.139 We live in this like New Testament era where 00:52:52.139 --> 00:52:54.920 we have Christ who is doubtful of our sins and 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.519 rose again and proven the afterlife. But even 00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.659 if you look at the New Testament, God was very 00:52:59.659 --> 00:53:02.300 prevalent in people's lives. Everybody, if you 00:53:02.300 --> 00:53:04.139 were a Christian and you're not a really Christian, 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.360 I guess if you were a Jew. following the Old 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.000 Testament ways and following the biblical heroes. 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:11.539 You saw some miraculous things. It's just like 00:53:11.539 --> 00:53:13.400 going up on the mountain of Moses when he's going 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.360 to get the 10 commandments. And by the time he 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.139 comes down, because he was gone for a little 00:53:17.139 --> 00:53:19.360 while talking to God, they start worshiping a 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.639 golden idol. It's like, you saw the power and 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.099 glory of God. Like you saw the ark. You saw all 00:53:24.099 --> 00:53:26.840 these things. Like you're living in the time 00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.360 of the Old Testament that was new to you at that 00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.139 time. It's bizarre to me that people could fall 00:53:32.139 --> 00:53:34.449 for these tricks. Have you heard of Okuku? If 00:53:34.449 --> 00:53:36.150 I'm saying that name correctly, the doll who 00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:38.590 grows hair. I have your own point today, brother. 00:53:38.670 --> 00:53:42.010 You go ahead and tell the story. All right. So 00:53:42.010 --> 00:53:46.070 in a small temple. in Hakido, Japan. There sets 00:53:46.070 --> 00:53:49.530 a doll named Okuku. She's about 16 inches tall, 00:53:49.650 --> 00:53:52.929 dressed in a faded kimono, her face pale and 00:53:52.929 --> 00:53:55.010 delicate, her black hair hanging neatly around 00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:57.489 her porcelain cheeks. The priests there say the 00:53:57.489 --> 00:53:59.710 doll once belonged to a little girl who died 00:53:59.710 --> 00:54:02.730 suddenly in the early 1900s, heartbroken. Her 00:54:02.730 --> 00:54:05.510 family placed the doll in an altar in remembrance, 00:54:05.829 --> 00:54:08.329 a memorial to a child they could not bear to 00:54:08.329 --> 00:54:10.489 let go. Then something strange began to happen. 00:54:10.489 --> 00:54:13.269 The doll's hair, once cut short in child style, 00:54:13.489 --> 00:54:16.590 started to grow slowly, subtly, just a few millimeters 00:54:16.590 --> 00:54:19.349 each year. The family noticed first, then the 00:54:19.349 --> 00:54:22.090 priest, and soon the story spread beyond the 00:54:22.090 --> 00:54:24.630 shrine walls. Even now, the temple caretakers 00:54:24.630 --> 00:54:27.909 trim Okuku's hair regularly, offering the clippings 00:54:27.909 --> 00:54:30.889 to the spirit of the child they believe remains 00:54:30.889 --> 00:54:35.010 within. Scientists who examined the strands confirmed 00:54:35.010 --> 00:54:38.309 they were real human hair. Others claimed humidity 00:54:38.309 --> 00:54:41.349 or static electricity could make the fibers lengthen 00:54:41.349 --> 00:54:44.710 over time. But explanations don't satisfy the 00:54:44.710 --> 00:54:47.150 silence in the room because everyone who visits 00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:50.329 says the same thing. The doll feels alive. It's 00:54:50.329 --> 00:54:53.510 easy to be romantic about this, a haunting like 00:54:53.510 --> 00:54:56.190 this one. There's tenderness to it. Beauty and 00:54:56.190 --> 00:54:59.570 grief made visible. Okuku is often described 00:54:59.570 --> 00:55:03.590 as a love story. A family refusing to forget, 00:55:03.829 --> 00:55:06.469 a community agreeing to remember, maybe that's 00:55:06.469 --> 00:55:08.949 where it began. But from a Christian perspective, 00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:12.010 even the softest hauntings can have a spiritual 00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:14.489 danger because love isn't supposed to anchor 00:55:14.489 --> 00:55:17.030 souls to earth. When the spirit lingers, it's 00:55:17.030 --> 00:55:20.849 not peace, it's bondage. Hebrews 9 .27 says this, 00:55:20.969 --> 00:55:24.130 it is appointed for man to die once and after 00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:26.590 that come judgment. Our loved ones do not wander 00:55:26.590 --> 00:55:29.469 between worlds. They rest where they are lost. 00:55:29.610 --> 00:55:31.369 The ideal of spirit still exists. staying behind 00:55:31.369 --> 00:55:33.550 in a doll might comfort grieving hearts, but 00:55:33.550 --> 00:55:36.090 it contradicts the truth of eternity. And when 00:55:36.090 --> 00:55:38.889 we create a shrine for the spirit, lighting candles, 00:55:39.230 --> 00:55:41.449 trimming hair, or whispering these prayers to 00:55:41.449 --> 00:55:44.449 it, we risk turning remembrance into reverence. 00:55:44.570 --> 00:55:47.389 What begins as mourning becomes ritual, and ritual 00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:50.150 invites presence. Not the child's, but something 00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:53.849 else. Yeah, man. All scary stories, man. Nah. 00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.019 I think what it comes down to is I just think 00:55:57.019 --> 00:55:59.179 there's a lot of, I think the main ways that 00:55:59.179 --> 00:56:02.380 these objects, these inanimate objects get disaster 00:56:02.380 --> 00:56:04.980 through a call practices, which essentially is 00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:07.320 like voodoo, seances, summonings, witchcraft. 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:11.320 I think objects can become cursed through intentional 00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.679 invocation or unrepentant sins. Like that story 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:17.400 you just told, you think this object's holding 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.739 something near and dear to your heart and you're 00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:22.599 deceived. I think you can unintentionally invite 00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:26.349 something into. that object that is your object 00:56:26.349 --> 00:56:28.610 of adoration representing something else. And 00:56:28.610 --> 00:56:30.670 you know, that's a sin. That's idolatry to a 00:56:30.670 --> 00:56:32.230 certain extent. You might be able to pick up 00:56:32.230 --> 00:56:34.610 one of these silly dolls and it could be completely 00:56:34.610 --> 00:56:37.380 harmless, but. If your intention, you can set 00:56:37.380 --> 00:56:40.639 up an invitation to something evil and vile to 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:42.760 come into this object because it's your intention 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.599 to, like you're opening that door. I think people 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.599 hear the word magic and I think of Harry Potter 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.099 and they try to make it seem cool and fun. And 00:56:50.099 --> 00:56:51.619 there's white magic and there's black magic. 00:56:51.659 --> 00:56:53.940 It's all magic, man. It's all forbidden. It's 00:56:53.940 --> 00:56:56.539 all cursed. It's all demonic. It's just a tough 00:56:56.539 --> 00:56:59.239 subject for me, dude, because there's so many, 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.300 there's so many dark holes people go down. And 00:57:01.300 --> 00:57:04.440 like I said before, culture and media try to 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.739 make magic. sound appealing and it can be good. 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:11.679 Dude, it's not good. The only power you need 00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.320 is from Christ. That's why God forbid all this 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.920 stuff, because you're using the power from something 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.780 else that's outside of Jesus. It's outside of 00:57:19.780 --> 00:57:21.900 God. It's outside of the Holy Spirit. And all 00:57:21.900 --> 00:57:24.519 that is going to drag you down to the deepest 00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:26.460 pits of hell. It's going to destroy your mental 00:57:26.460 --> 00:57:28.260 and spiritual health, your emotional health. 00:57:28.460 --> 00:57:30.539 And people think it's cool now. Man, it's not. 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.440 It's something you don't want to mess with. God 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.360 didn't ban it because he's trying to hold out 00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.800 on you. Banned it because it's bad for you. There's 00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.519 a reason. God doesn't withhold something from 00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:40.679 you. I got one more story for you. I know you 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:42.780 don't like him, but I got one more story for 00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:45.719 you. We're praying we're doing this episode again. 00:57:46.500 --> 00:57:48.940 Yeah, let's do it, man. Let's do it. All right, 00:57:49.019 --> 00:57:52.409 so. Here's my fourth case file that I researched. 00:57:52.590 --> 00:57:55.690 It was a doll called Peggy and it was titled 00:57:55.690 --> 00:57:58.809 the YouTube Headache. So her name is Peggy and 00:57:58.809 --> 00:58:01.989 she's proof that the age of haunted objects didn't 00:58:01.989 --> 00:58:05.010 end with dusty museums. It just moved online 00:58:05.010 --> 00:58:08.190 and towards the algorithm. Peggy is a plain -faced 00:58:08.190 --> 00:58:11.110 doll with glass eyes and a permanent scowl kept 00:58:11.110 --> 00:58:14.269 a day in a paranormal museum under lock, key, 00:58:14.610 --> 00:58:17.150 and constant surveillance. The legend says that 00:58:17.150 --> 00:58:19.780 anyone who stares at her for too long especially 00:58:19.780 --> 00:58:23.119 through a computer screen, pays a price. Headaches, 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.400 nausea, panic, electronic malfunctions. Viewers 00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.039 have claimed that lights flickered, computers 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.099 froze, or shapes appeared in their reflections 00:58:32.099 --> 00:58:34.440 while watching her video. Some swore they heard 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:37.239 a whisper in their speakers just after the clip 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:40.659 ended. Before the museum would display her, visitors 00:58:40.659 --> 00:58:44.460 had to sign waivers acknowledging potential psychological 00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:47.239 effects. They watch Peggy through glass, and 00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:49.969 guides remind... them. The curse isn't broken 00:58:49.969 --> 00:58:53.250 by distance. The lens carries it. That single 00:58:53.250 --> 00:58:56.389 line is chilling because it feels made for our 00:58:56.389 --> 00:58:58.909 time. The old hauntings needed houses, needed 00:58:58.909 --> 00:59:01.590 dolls, needed possessions. This one's just needed 00:59:01.590 --> 00:59:04.210 Wi -Fi. The spirits no longer lingered in basements 00:59:04.210 --> 00:59:07.489 or in graveyards. They ride a bandwidth straight 00:59:07.489 --> 00:59:09.889 into your living room or into your bedroom or 00:59:09.889 --> 00:59:11.869 to your nursery or wherever you're streaming 00:59:11.869 --> 00:59:14.010 it. Think about that. We don't gather around 00:59:14.010 --> 00:59:16.610 campfires anymore. We gather around screens. 00:59:16.769 --> 00:59:19.130 A glow of of a monitor has replaced the flame. 00:59:19.250 --> 00:59:22.610 Dinner has become the new seance table. And every 00:59:22.610 --> 00:59:26.250 viral cursed clip is a modern ghost lit. One 00:59:26.250 --> 00:59:29.079 freeze frame of Peggy's head, tilt it. Just so, 00:59:29.219 --> 00:59:31.460 one eye catching the glare, and suddenly your 00:59:31.460 --> 00:59:33.960 heart skips a beat. Your body reacts. Something 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.079 behind your eyes tightens like a change in weather 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.340 you can't explain. You feel seen, and that's 00:59:39.340 --> 00:59:41.639 how it starts. As I always end these stories, 00:59:41.780 --> 00:59:44.219 from a Christian point of view, Peggy's story 00:59:44.219 --> 00:59:47.360 exposes some deeper than superstitions. It shows 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.000 how the spirit of fear has learned to digitize 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.119 itself. Second Timothy 1 .7 says this, for God 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.000 has not given us a spirit of fear, but a power 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.079 of love and sound mind. Fear itself can be a 00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.719 spirit, and when millions stare into the same 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.619 fearful image, they open the same shared window. 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.300 The devil no longer needs a doorway. He uses 01:00:08.300 --> 01:00:11.219 a click through. A cursed image isn't just pixels. 01:00:11.500 --> 01:00:14.679 It's attention baptized in anxiety, and attention 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.340 when mixed with fear is a form of worship. I 01:00:17.340 --> 01:00:20.780 think what makes Peggy dangerous isn't just that 01:00:20.780 --> 01:00:23.719 she blinks her moves, is that people expect her 01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:26.440 to. They feed into her curiosity, into her dread, 01:00:26.579 --> 01:00:29.000 into her fascination. Every view, every comment, 01:00:29.099 --> 01:00:32.639 every late night rewatch turns into rumor and 01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:35.219 ritual. Demonic power thrives on fascination. 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.440 It's fueled by the imagination's consent. The 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.780 more you fear, the deeper you look. Just like 01:00:39.780 --> 01:00:42.099 Eve, the glance at the forbidden fruit. The danger 01:00:42.099 --> 01:00:45.679 begins not with action, but with interest. And 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.980 what we're seeing with this doll is that Now 01:00:47.980 --> 01:00:49.599 I don't have to be in its presence. I don't have 01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:51.460 to apologize to it. I don't have to worship it 01:00:51.460 --> 01:00:53.519 in there, and it's in the algorithm. It's in 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.659 the TV shows you're watching. All of those things, 01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:59.300 you have to drive discernment into them of what 01:00:59.300 --> 01:01:01.840 you're bringing in your homes, because this doll 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:03.960 proves it, that you have to be careful what you 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:08.000 consume. Yep. Detrimony, chapter 18, verse 10 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.940 through 12. There should not be found among you 01:01:09.940 --> 01:01:11.860 anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through 01:01:11.860 --> 01:01:14.880 the fire, or one who practices with witchcraft, 01:01:14.940 --> 01:01:18.719 or a soothsayer, or one who... or a sorcerer, 01:01:18.860 --> 01:01:21.179 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a 01:01:21.179 --> 01:01:23.000 spiritist, or the one who calls up the dead. 01:01:23.139 --> 01:01:24.940 For all who do these things are in abomination 01:01:24.940 --> 01:01:27.840 to the Lord. Don't do it, man. Don't do it, girl. 01:01:28.380 --> 01:01:31.659 But yeah, man, it's a tough episode for me because 01:01:31.659 --> 01:01:34.079 this stuff makes me really uncomfortable. Do 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.460 you want to pray us out? We will be appraised. 01:01:36.699 --> 01:01:38.619 How do you want to do this? I want to talk about 01:01:38.619 --> 01:01:40.159 a couple more things. I know we're running out 01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:41.539 of time, but I want to talk about a couple more 01:01:41.539 --> 01:01:43.639 things. Okay. I'm going to make it just a little 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.260 bit more uncomfortable. I know it's late. You're 01:01:45.260 --> 01:01:48.159 about to go to bed. Leave a light on for God. 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:53.940 God is the light, bro. No, what I want to close 01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:56.739 with, right, is, so I've told you guys some stories 01:01:56.739 --> 01:01:59.260 and we talk a lot about the dolls. We started 01:01:59.260 --> 01:02:01.940 with Labooboo. That's the new fascination. It's 01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:05.119 replaced Annabelle. It's replaced this Japanese 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.300 doll, replaced all these things. It's what people 01:02:07.300 --> 01:02:10.360 are seeking out. There's millions of things that 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.920 have always been there. When people talk about, 01:02:13.179 --> 01:02:15.340 as much as you've talked about Jay, the medians 01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:17.920 or the wizards, people go and read their palm 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.440 and read the crystal ball and have the crystals 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:23.800 or the Ouija boards. people play with that are 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.239 sold right next to the Monopoly board so people 01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.800 think they are games. These are not games. These 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:33.480 are demonic tools. And when you do these things, 01:02:33.659 --> 01:02:36.340 you're inviting demons into your home. We could 01:02:36.340 --> 01:02:38.760 talk all day about horrible stories that come 01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.860 out of these Ouija board things or these, what 01:02:41.860 --> 01:02:44.179 do they call them? The people you go, the mediums. 01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:46.579 I can always call them mediums. Psychics. Psychics. 01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:48.400 That's the word I'm looking for. Psychics where 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:50.679 people go and they tell me the future. They've 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:53.239 been around for a whole long time, but that's 01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:56.239 all witchcraft. It's all forbidden and we should 01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:59.420 not be. taking in it because there's no goodness 01:02:59.420 --> 01:03:01.880 that's going to come from that. And I think that's 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.460 like the real power and society. I remember being 01:03:04.460 --> 01:03:08.380 a cop and there was this gang called MS 13 that 01:03:08.380 --> 01:03:10.739 really hated my guts because I locked up a lot 01:03:10.739 --> 01:03:13.039 of MS 13 members. And I remember going to this 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.800 crime scene and they did this thing called, I 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.840 think it was called Santa Maria, where they make 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:19.780 a doll of you and they put a picture of your 01:03:19.780 --> 01:03:22.119 face on the doll and they buried underground 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.480 and they do all these weird ritual things and 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.320 they think it's going to have power over you. 01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.460 because they wanted me gone because I was locking 01:03:28.460 --> 01:03:31.000 up all these gang members at the time. And the 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.280 truth is because I was protected by Jesus Christ, 01:03:34.579 --> 01:03:36.840 their demonic rituals had no power over me. They 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:39.119 could not come into my life. So I guess what 01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.320 I'm trying to say is we have control. We have 01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:43.860 dominion over our spirit and all you have to 01:03:43.860 --> 01:03:45.900 do is not invite it in. It doesn't matter what 01:03:45.900 --> 01:03:47.980 your enemies are doing against you. We can fight 01:03:47.980 --> 01:03:49.880 against it because we have the power and glory 01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:52.940 of Jesus and God in our favor and they are stronger 01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:55.119 than any of this. But you have the discernment 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.110 and not this stuff in and it's been around didn't 01:03:58.110 --> 01:03:59.349 start with a little boo -boo and it's not going 01:03:59.349 --> 01:04:00.989 to end with a little boo -boo. There's going 01:04:00.989 --> 01:04:02.989 to be some new rage that's going to come and 01:04:02.989 --> 01:04:06.130 try to steal your attention away, but stay away 01:04:06.130 --> 01:04:08.170 from it. Yeah. Stay away from it. Yeah, man. 01:04:08.289 --> 01:04:11.909 You probably tell them super uncomfortable. I'll 01:04:11.909 --> 01:04:15.849 just say it again. Yeah. Don't mess with it. 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.880 Don't mess with it. Don't think it's cool. Don't 01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:20.900 think it's trendy. If you're a teenager and you're 01:04:20.900 --> 01:04:23.019 debating it or you want to be cool with your 01:04:23.019 --> 01:04:25.039 friends, don't do it, man. You're called to be 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:26.679 separate. You're called to be different by Christ. 01:04:26.780 --> 01:04:29.500 Not to participate in these worldly demonic things. 01:04:29.659 --> 01:04:33.460 Just remember who you are. You are made to have 01:04:33.460 --> 01:04:36.239 a relationship with God. Jesus will forgive you. 01:04:36.420 --> 01:04:38.699 And the crazy thing about it, man, is the closer 01:04:38.699 --> 01:04:41.500 you get to God, he will answer your prayers. 01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.679 He will give you wisdom. He will give you discernment. 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.760 These are free gifts. These are gifts. of the 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.300 spirit and they're so much better than any of 01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:50.260 this other stuff that the world is offering. 01:04:50.739 --> 01:04:52.760 Yeah, I mean, I just think. We have to pray it 01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:55.559 out, brother. We'll close in prayer, but what 01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:57.800 do you want to leave our guest with tonight? 01:04:58.019 --> 01:04:59.880 Ah man, same thing I always do. Jesus loves you. 01:04:59.940 --> 01:05:02.199 We love you. I love you, brother. Just ask for 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.119 wisdom and discernment through Jesus Christ. 01:05:04.219 --> 01:05:06.059 He will give you the Holy Spirit. He will guide 01:05:06.059 --> 01:05:09.920 your paths. You don't need to go get a doll or 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:12.579 look into these weird occult things because though 01:05:12.579 --> 01:05:15.920 they are tempting, they are deception. And though 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.179 they may tell you some sort of truth, they do 01:05:18.179 --> 01:05:20.179 not tell you the whole truth. They do not tell 01:05:20.179 --> 01:05:22.530 you where that path leads. They try to make it 01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.349 line with flowers and beautiful trees, but the 01:05:25.349 --> 01:05:27.570 further you get down, the darker it gets, the 01:05:27.570 --> 01:05:30.389 more dead everything around you is. And the end 01:05:30.389 --> 01:05:32.949 result is the gates of hell. And when you start 01:05:32.949 --> 01:05:35.070 off on it, it doesn't look like it and you can't 01:05:35.070 --> 01:05:37.010 see far enough down it. But the beautiful thing 01:05:37.010 --> 01:05:39.010 is if you are on that path and Christ can save 01:05:39.010 --> 01:05:41.369 you from it and take you off of it. Amen, brother. 01:05:41.750 --> 01:05:45.550 I think when you look at everything we've talked 01:05:45.550 --> 01:05:48.750 about tonight, the haunted stories, the rumors, 01:05:49.170 --> 01:05:52.710 the symbols. theology, it comes down to this. 01:05:52.989 --> 01:05:56.090 Evil rarely shows up as what you'd expect evil 01:05:56.090 --> 01:05:59.070 to look like. It shows up as fascination, as 01:05:59.070 --> 01:06:01.510 beauty, as something that feels harmless, even 01:06:01.510 --> 01:06:05.909 cute. Labubu, Annabelle, Robert, Okuku, Ouija 01:06:05.909 --> 01:06:09.090 board, so many other things. They're all different 01:06:09.090 --> 01:06:12.570 masks worn by the same ancient pattern. The enemy 01:06:12.570 --> 01:06:15.789 takes the familiar and dresses it up as charm, 01:06:16.030 --> 01:06:19.469 then waits for our curiosity to turn into attention. 01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.860 and our attention to turn into invitation. The 01:06:22.860 --> 01:06:25.320 world calls us to this aesthetic, and scripture 01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.460 calls it temptation. I think every culture tells 01:06:28.460 --> 01:06:31.420 ghost stories, but the Bible tells us why they 01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:34.360 stick. Because human beings are spiritual creatures 01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.280 living in a physical world. We can feel... what 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.860 we can't see. We know something's out there, 01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:42.800 and we spend our lives trying to name it, to 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.659 explain it, or buy a version we can control. 01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.980 But when we play with darkness, even just for 01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:51.820 fun, we're still giving it a seat at the table. 01:06:52.019 --> 01:06:55.179 For me, and from a Christian perspective, these 01:06:55.179 --> 01:06:58.889 things, the haunted dolls, the curse toys, the 01:06:58.889 --> 01:07:02.050 occult games are not just myths. The reflections 01:07:02.050 --> 01:07:05.349 of how spiritual reality bleeds into material 01:07:05.349 --> 01:07:09.070 life. The devil doesn't need possession when 01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:12.130 distraction works just as well. He doesn't need 01:07:12.130 --> 01:07:15.550 to terrorize if he can trivialize. The moment 01:07:15.550 --> 01:07:19.150 we stop taking holiness seriously, we start calling 01:07:19.150 --> 01:07:21.510 the unholy entertainment. But here's the other 01:07:21.510 --> 01:07:23.309 side of the truth. Believers don't have to live 01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:26.730 in fear. The demonic world is real, but it's 01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:30.489 Defeated. Christ authority isn't shaken by fork 01:07:30.489 --> 01:07:33.769 lower or fear. A toy can't overpower a temple 01:07:33.769 --> 01:07:36.469 filled with the spirit of God. Fear gives darkness 01:07:36.469 --> 01:07:40.010 permission. Faith revokes it. So the real lesson 01:07:40.010 --> 01:07:43.210 of Lububu's phenomenon isn't really burn every 01:07:43.210 --> 01:07:46.389 doll or fear every rumor. It's this. Guard your 01:07:46.389 --> 01:07:49.510 gaze. Test your spirit. Don't trade discernment 01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:51.929 for aesthetics. The devil works through what 01:07:51.929 --> 01:07:54.690 we normalize, not just what we worship. We live 01:07:54.690 --> 01:07:57.920 in an age that blurs good and evil into content. 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.000 That's why the greatest spiritual act you can 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.860 perform today might be as simple as this. Turning 01:08:03.860 --> 01:08:06.940 your attention back to what is holy, to God, 01:08:07.139 --> 01:08:09.840 to Jesus, to the Trinity, to the kingdom of heaven. 01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.519 Because in the end, the battle isn't over toys 01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.340 or symbols or stories, it's over your very heart. 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.939 And I think that's what I close with, man. And 01:08:17.939 --> 01:08:20.529 close us in prayer. Let's wrap this up. Dude, 01:08:20.750 --> 01:08:23.210 I'll just say there's nothing new under the Sun. 01:08:23.350 --> 01:08:26.930 It's just repackaged, man. Just repackaged. Oh, 01:08:27.069 --> 01:08:29.250 thank you Lord Jesus for bringing us together 01:08:29.250 --> 01:08:33.130 tonight. Please rebuke and disperse all evil 01:08:33.130 --> 01:08:35.710 spirits that may have come into our presence 01:08:35.710 --> 01:08:38.850 and our listeners presence. Please give us wisdom 01:08:38.850 --> 01:08:41.109 and discernment. Give our listeners wisdom and 01:08:41.109 --> 01:08:43.010 discernment. If there's anyone out there listening 01:08:43.010 --> 01:08:45.920 that is tempted by this. cast that thought from 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:47.579 their head, put a hedge of protection around 01:08:47.579 --> 01:08:49.760 them and us. And Jesus, we just love you and 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.560 we pray in your name. In Jesus' name we pray. 01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:55.640 Amen. Thank you, brother. We are Zero Signals. 01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.180 Subscribe, follow, drop us a comment, visit us 01:08:59.180 --> 01:09:02.239 on our social media, shoot us an email. 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