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You're tuned into Zero Signal, a show about what
they won't say and what you're probably already
thinking. No fluff, no filters, no bullshit.
Let's crack it open. Tonight we're talking about
creatures with a smile like a row of tiny teeth
and eyes that somehow look innocent and mischievous
at the same time. LeBouBou. If you've seen it,
you know exactly what I mean. A small elven figure
with tall ears, sharp teeth, and a posture that
boasts cute and unsettling, like a woodland sprite.
Trying cosplay as a gremlin and accidentally
becoming a fashion icon. LeBouBou was created
by Hong Kong born artist Kasing Leung and produced
by Chinese collectible giant Pop Mart. It belongs
to the designer Toy World. of blind boxes, limited
runs, and secret chase figures. A market built
on mystery, luck, and obsession. The Boo Boo
sits at the strange and irresistible space where
cute blends with creepy, what I call... Cozy
Menace. Kids love it because it looks mischievous.
Adults love it because it feels ironic. And the
internet loves it because it's endlessly memeable.
You can photograph it on your desk and suddenly
your desk looks like a dreamscape. Half fairy
tale and half fever dream. Labooboo isn't just
a collectible. It's a global phenomenon. Pop
Mart has turned this fanged little imp into a
worldwide icon with hundreds of thousands of
units sold and entire store drops selling out
in hours. Fans queue around blocks of in Tokyo,
Hong Kong, and New York to grab the newest editions.
It becomes a fashion statement, a lifestyle mascot,
and a kind of totem of the weird, cute generation.
Celebrities have fueled the frenzy. Lisa from
Blackpink posed with one. LeBron James owns a
gold variant, and luxury brand Monat collaborated
with Popmart to create a high -end LeBouBou handbag.
At this point, LeBouBou isn't just a toy. It's
a culture, and culture always carries meaning,
whether we realize it or not. But here's where
it takes a darker turn. As LeBouBou's popularity
grew, So did the rumors. Online threads, TikToks,
and YouTube videos begin whispering the same
ideal. Lububu isn't just cute, it's demonic.
Some claimed it was modeled after Pazuzu, the
ancient Mesopotamian wind demon made famous by
the exorcist. In Babylonian mythology, Pazuzu
is depicted with a lion's face and the body of
a man, the wings of an eagle, and the scorpion's
tail. He was feared for spreading disease, yet,
paradoxically, worshiped as protection against
even the worst demons. pop culture, a Pazuzu
became the face of evil itself. When people saw
Lububu's grin, sharp teeth, and long ears, they
said the resemblance wasn't coincidence. It was
a symbol of hiding in plain sight. Lungs states
his inspiration come from his own storybook universe,
a whimsical fantasy world of monsters and dream
creatures, not Babylonian idols. But to me, that
sounds a little demonic, too. But that hasn't
stopped this theory from spreading. When something
captures mass attention, people begin to project
deeper meaning into it. What started as art becomes
a mirror for collective fears. The Pazuzu theory
is a perfect example of how myth mutates online
and how the human need to find patterns can turn
design into doctrine. From a Christian perspective,
this is where discernment matters. Scripture
teaches that demons are real. Evil works through
deception, obsession, and misplaced reverence.
The danger isn't in the plastic. It's in the
power we give it. When a toy becomes an idol,
when it inspires fear, worship and superstition
that crosses spiritual boundaries. The devil
doesn't need the object. He just needs the invitation.
And sometimes fascination is all the invitation
he needs. Lububu may or may not be demonic in
design, but the story around it has taken on
spiritual weight because people want to believe
it's more than just a toy. It's become a cultural
test for how we process innocence, evil, and
attention in a world assessed with aesthetics.
So the question tonight is what is Lububu really?
On the surface, it's a collectible. a cute monster
that conquered the art toy market. Beneath that,
it's myth in motion. Whether you see it as harmless
fun, a marketing miracle, or a spiritual symbol
depends on the eyes you bring to it. But tonight,
we will uncover the facts so you can apply your
discernment. So Jay, I have to ask you this.
You've seen all these celebrities and many people
queuing up to buy this doll that constantly sells
out at every store across the country. Do you
think the intent of Kong was to manifest a demon
in everybody's house? Did he steal that power
in order to bring a demonic force in everybody's
house and exert some kind of weird influence
or control over people? This is an interesting
and scary one. I tend to get a little bit nervous
talking about some of these subjects. I think
it'd be a good time to... maybe say a prayer
for us and our audience. I get a little nervous
about haunted dolls, haunted objects, anything
that's enchanted. So Lord Jesus, please protect
and be with us during the show. Be with our listeners,
keep us from all evil and foul spirits. In Jesus
Christ, we rebuke them, give us wisdom and discernment
and put a hedge of protection around us as we
talk about this and as our listeners listen.
Dave, so this one is tough because I think a
lot of culture in the Bible says that the end
days will be like the days of Noah. like the
ones coming up. And I think the intention with
most media, most of the stuff you see in the
stores, they're trying to normalize this demonic,
satanic type culture and they really try to target
our kids with it. When my kids were growing up,
they're older now, they got curious about this
cartoon called Monsters High. And I would always
try to watch everything with them. And it made
me a bit nervous because they were glamorizing
these monsters, demons, like vampires, werewolves,
and trying to personalize them, make them seem
normal to kids. And the big things like Harry
Potter, they're trying to make witchcraft, sorcery
very mainline. And I think this is another step
in this process to normalize these things. And
God says a lot about magic. God says a lot about
sorcery. God says a lot about omens and magic
items. And God tells you to burn them. If they're
possessed, if they're haunted, I think we can
talk about the differences in that as we move
forward in this show. But I think it's just a
way to normalize the occult. And that makes me
really scared and nervous, especially in this
day and age. It's a good point. It makes me think
of an old story where the devil was talking to
this Christian guy. And he goes, I don't understand
why you're not attacking me. I'm a Christian
come after me. And he's like, my work's already
been done, man. Like I go after the young generation
because if I can affect them in their informative
years, that means they are going to have a real
big struggle by the time they turn to adults.
So it's about capturing the hearts and minds
at a young age. And that has that exert influence
and control over the younger minds. And then
as you see that bleeding into kids cartoons,
into dolls, into different things that are being
manufactured and progressed. I think it's interesting
that celebrities are getting into the mix. as
well. LeBron James, I don't know much about him
outside of him being an elite basketball player,
but there's a conspiracy that we could go down
one day of how the demonic forces play in Hollywood
in general and what differences they are doing
there. I've heard a lot of things where actors
sign scripts where they can't mention the name
of Jesus Christ. They can talk about Muhammad.
They can talk about Buddha, but they actually
can't say Jesus. And that's like the devil's
biggest trick. He doesn't care who you worship.
Just forget about Jesus. Just take Jesus out
of it. And then guess what? You're going to hell.
He's won that battle. It's really interesting
of things that get empowered because when you
look at this doll in the face value, it's ugly
as sin, man. This little weird toy with big fangs
and pointy ears. Who on earth would want this
thing? It's not cute and cuddly. It's not like
a puppy dog that is cute. Who would want this
toy in their room? And I think there's a little
bit of magical or mythology, something mixed
in there that influences people's spirit to purchase
it and to bring it into their home. homes and
become so widely successful. Now you have Luke
Kong that made this thing. Supposedly we'll get
a little bit more into his background, but supposedly
it's based on Norse mythology. But he comes from
an area where it's very secular in Hong Kong,
where obviously I'd lived in Hong Kong for a
little while. And one of the interesting things
was you'd walk around during the holiday season,
whether it be Easter or Christmas. And as you're
walking around, you see the Easter bunny and
you see the Christmas trees and Santa Claus at
all. malls and all the stuff where people are
taking pictures of it. And I remember asking
my friends and me being naive. Oh, you must celebrate
Christ. Because, you know, it's Easter and Easter
bunny and the resurrection and Christmas and
his birth. And they're like, what are you talking
about? I was like, Christ connected to Easter,
Christ connected to Christmas. They're like,
we don't know what you're talking about. And
they have all these imagery that's fun. They've
taken the commercialism of it and taken it over
to sell those products. But at the same time,
they never knew Christ. The big trick in my book
is that you can believe in anything else you
want. As long as you don't believe in Christ,
we're going to have your journey straight to
hell. But I just find it interesting that this
thing that is so ugly where nobody in the right
mind, at least from my generation would want
to buy this thing that now is selling off to
shelves and you can't even get your hands on
one. And every major influencer across the market
is trying to get it so they can talk about it
and put it on their show. Yeah. Like we said,
man, it's normalizing the occult. It's edifying
these demonic type. caricatures, trying to make
them cute, trying to make them into little stuffed
animals that kids are going to want to, mom and
dad, to rush to the toy store and buy. It reminds
me of the Tickle Me Elmo back when my kids were
little. Like you couldn't find one to save your
life, but it's a little puppet in Sesame Street.
Now it's this demonic doll that looks like a
little devil rabbit, at least from what I can
tell. It's based off of an artist's rendering
of a demon. The other thing that kind of comes
to mind is idolatry. It's like they're mass producing
these little mini idols for your little kids
to take around. of project like a tulpa. And
we can talk more about tulpas in a little bit.
That actually is a Tibetan term, but I think
it's a pretty worldwide phenomenon across cultures,
but it's mainlining the idolatry and idolatry
isn't just limited to a doll. It could be expansive
to a lot of things in our lives, but you're carrying
around a little mini demon with you, bro. Like
good things aren't going to happen. And it's
scary. Doesn't it remind you of that story? It
was Moses when he went to the mountain to get
the 10 commandments because he was gone so long.
By the time he came down, people are worshiping
this golden statue that they had built because
they're just like, wow, we just thought Moses
would never come back in time. And they build
a statue and start worshiping. Like how stupid
is that? Like, why are you guys so stupid? But
they're vacant of God. And when people are vacant
of God, they start trying to put creation into
something else, put control into something else.
But maybe we crawl down this rabbit hole a little
bit and you said it best. Like we, I'm glad we
said a prayer because even researching this stuff,
it always makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable
because I don't like to even be like in the embraces
of the occult or what they're following along
with or part of that confusion, but it's important
to open our listeners eyes up to what's really
occurring in the world. So let's talk a little
bit about Labooboo. Labooboo. didn't just crawl
out of the abyss one day. It was born from the
imagination, this story, and this kind of perfect
storm of culture and commerce. The creature comes
from the mind of Luang, a Hong Kong -born illustrator,
now based in Belgium, whose art universe is known
as The Monsters. His work looks like something
you'd find in a storybook, left too long in the
rain, whimsical, eerie, nostalgic, slightly unsettling,
or maybe very unsettling. It carries the DNA
of European fairy tales. and the visual rhythm
of East Asian pulp culture, where this kind of
melancholy and cuteness often walk hand in hand.
In his world, monsters aren't villains. They're
reflections of us, small beings full of this
kind of wonder, fear, and mischief. When Pop
Mart, the Chinese collectible's giant, partnered
with Leng to turn his characters into vinyl art
toys, Lububu jumped from his paper to your palm.
Suddenly, this storybook sprite had this weight
and shine. It could be owned, displayed, and
traded. And when Pop Mart packaged it inside
of blind boxes, sealed cartons that hid these
figures inside, the psychology changed completely.
What we saw is every purchase became this small
gamble, this micro lottery of hope and chance.
The mystery became the magnet and the scarcity
became the spell. Scarcity to me always feels
a little sacred. A line outside a store transforms
an object into a ritual because you stand in
those long lines for hours upon hours. And a
midnight drop, we used to think about it maybe
with Xbox games or something, turns into the
purchase into this shared experience of anticipation.
What happens next is really this modern consumer
culture, right? Now you have Instagram photos
on walls and stacked Labooboos and these TikTok
videos of glowing collections arranged like shrines.
I even seen one where they had a Labooboo like
hanging from a purse. These YouTube unboxings
with these - the cinematic lighting and the suspenseful
music. And each one is like a tiny act of devotion.
And that devotion, much like when we worship
God, attracts attention. The resale market soon
pushed prices into the stratosphere. What I saw
was limited editions sold out in minutes reappeared
online and then tripled and quadrupled in price.
People are willing to pay anything just to have
this weird little stuffed animal. People began
hunting this item almost like the Holy Grail.
Rare colorways and these exclusives really became
stuff of legends online and the collectible economy
blurred into this kind of religion. Patience,
luck, and sacrifice all for a figure that fits
in the palm of your hand. Then came the celebrity
effect when someone like Lisa from Blackpink
post a photo with a libubu on her shelf and LeBron
James flashing this gold variant. And now you
see this new energy entered the system, right?
Now this isn't just a soy. It's an aesthetic.
It's a status symbol. It's an emblem of cool.
even in high fashion, and 175 year old French
luxury brand like Monat was getting in on it.
Collaborated with Pop Mart to create the Lububu
leather goods. And the little imp of this doll
that once lived in this dude's sketches was now
rubbing elbows with couture. Cute became cool
and cool became cultural currency. Once an object
reaches that level of visibility when it feels
chosen by these crazies, people start searching
for meaning. They want to know why this particular
figure ca - the hearts and headlines and they
want to get in on it. But what we're seeing is
this cultural craze. You can't buy it enough.
It disappears. Now you're jealous because Jay's
standing online holding a La Boo Boo doll. I'll
never hold one brown. But it's absolute insanity
that we're seeing with this doll. And the prices
are astronomical. People are willing to give
away their life savings to get this little plush
toy that has horns and sharp teeth. To me, the
entire thing is just insane. but what it tells
you is that it's worship and not just consumerism,
in my opinion. It's interesting that the claim
is that this Labubu doll was modeled after a
Mesopotamian demon called Pazuzu. He was the
king of the wind demons. Pazuzu is identified
as the king of the wind demons in the Mesopotamian
religion, and he is known for bringing plagues
and famine. It's interesting that this doll originated
in China, and where did the latest big plague
come from? China. Again, drawing some conclusions
here, but it's a little interesting. Some anecdotal
evidence with these dolls. I know they've been
banned in certain countries, mainly Middle Eastern
countries, but there's been lots of claims that...
The eyes change color in these dolls. And the
smile seems to get bigger from one day to the
next. Some people on social media claim that
they're, it changes their children's behavior.
And that's pretty scary. That's a pretty scary
claim. And others claim they hear voices. That's
the general feeling of unease after owning the
doll. And these are all kinds of signs of something
that is attached to the doll, whether it's haunted,
whether it's possessed. I tend to think that
probably most of them are haunted. being actually
possessed and we can define, at least in my opinion,
the difference between something being haunted
and possessed. So in context, haunting is identified
as a demon being attached to or influences an
object or the immediate area surrounding it.
And if something's possessed, typically in Christian
theology, it's a demon taking direct control
of something or a living person. So whereas possession,
like the demon kind of lives in that vessel,
a haunting is like a conduit where it pops in
and out. of during certain times or just is just
a mess with people. It's not so much the vessel
that it permanently inhabits, but something that
it comes and goes from. One of the things I always
think about, and this is just David Green talking
now, but when I think about children and I think
about my son and my daughter, I think they're
much closer to God than we are because they are
young, especially at one and three, they're young.
They haven't been corrupted by sin yet. So they're
closer to God because they're closer to purity,
even though God washes all of our sins. when
we become saved Christians. I just still think
there's something special about that. Like they
haven't gone down their sin journey yet and made
a whole lot of mistakes. And I think about when
I was a child, I remember when we were kids and
I think it was St. Louis where we used to see
those shadow figures on the wall. I used to see
this butcher that used to go down in the shadows.
And I think you used to see some things there
as well that were scary. And a lot of things
we talk about, a lot of people say it's just
children's imagination. They don't understand
what they're looking at. But I sometimes wonder
if If the spirit of God is trying to influence
the good and the spirit of the devil is trying
to influence the bad. And there is at that young
of an age, there is a kind of a war taking place
of how that child is going to go down a pathway.
And I wonder why they see or say these crazy
things. You always see these videos. The kids
say the darndest things. They talk about God
or they talk about the devil or whatever the
case may be. I just kind of wonder if they're
a little bit closer to that source. Yeah, man.
I remember we put together the connection about
this butcher figure in our house in St. Louis
only a couple of years ago. And my story with
that is I used to have such a hard time sleeping
at night because I used to get freaked out. I
used to get so scared from movies like Freddy
Krueger. Freddy Krueger is the worst because
Freddy, Freddy Krueger would come to you in your
dreams. So you can't even sleep because you'll
get murdered. So it used to terrify me. So I
used to fight sleep all night. And then I used
to try to sneak into mom and dad's room. And
I remember I didn't want to wake them up or get
them mad. So I would like cuddle like up. underneath
like the footboard of their bed and lay down
and try to sleep there at night. Or I try to
sneak into your room sometimes, but then eventually
you get upset. So I went to this place where
I would just crawl through the hall real, real
quietly, get at the footboard of mom and dad's
bed and just try to sleep there. But you remember
how the stairs would come up to the second floor.
Dude, I remember it like it was yesterday because
it was so freaking scary. I saw a shadow of an
arm. against the staircase with a butcher knife
swinging up and down three or four times. It
freaked me out so bad. I woke mom and dad up.
I think dad got the gun and cleared the house.
But I want to hear your butcher story. I want
the audience to hear it because at first I think
when you're a kid, you look at your memories
like, did I make that up or was it an overactive
imagination? And yes, we had active imaginations.
We were very creative children, but that was
not that. And I remember a couple of years ago,
we were talking and you said, yeah, I used to
see this butcher thing too. And I was like, dude,
shut up. You're blowing my mind. So tell the
audience your story. Yeah. I don't remember it
a lot anymore. The older I get, the more I forget.
But I remember being a child laying in bed and
I still remember it to this day. We weren't in
that St. Louis house very long before we had
moved to Georgia. But in my room, I was in this
cat -a -corner and I looked towards this pendant
light, or what do they call them? The lights
that hang down in the stairwells. And it used
to always stay on. It would cast a shadow onto
the wall that I would look at. And in that wall,
as I laid in bed at night, I could literally
see, and I know the guests can't see my arm right
now, but I could see like the butcher arm coming
up and down, like in the shadow. And it freaked
me the hell out to a point where it made me so
scared. And you convinced me, you had these two
rocks. I don't know if you remember this. You
used to have these two rocks and one shot lasers
and one threw bombs. And I can't remember which
one he gave me. I think it was a bomb one, bro.
If you fall asleep, this bomb rock will kill
people or something. gave me some comfort there.
Yeah, those rocks gave me comfort too. But yeah,
man, the butcher thing was nuts because I thought
it was just an experience I had, but it's weird
to hear that you had that experience too. It
freaks me out. But dude, it was weird because
once we left that house, I never saw it again.
There's something about that house or what was
in the house or the area it was in somehow had
that presence tied to it. And it still freaks
me out to this day, man. I remember more about
that house, which we weren't in very long. And
I was very young. I think I was kindergarten
age maybe. When we were there, but we were very
young, but I still remember the safe spots. I
remember I was hiding under your, you had this
cool like bunk bed thing. It was just one bed,
but it was like elevated and they used to give
you pull it out and you could hide. Yeah. But
yeah, that was a crazy experience. But I think
getting back to Labubu, as you were talking about
how it looks. At first, I think it might sound
absurd that this Pazuzu and this Labubu, by the
way, names very similar, just switching out of
vowel there. But when you start comparing the
detail, the grin, the jagged teeth, the elongated
ears, the posture, you begin to see this kind
of familiar chill, this spiritual mimicry. That
is the resemblance. It isn't just visual, but
it's also. symbolic. What it reminds me of is
in the Bible. We are reminded again and again
that the spiritual realm is real. Ephesians 6
-12, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against the principalities, against the powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of the world.
When someone spreads through culture as fast
as Lububu did, when it captures hearts, when
it captures wallets and captures attention across
the world, and almost overnight, by the way,
Christians have to ask what spirit is behind
it. Because not every success is blessed and
not every image is harmless. To me, Pazuzu is
not just a fairy tale character. He's an ancient
entity recorded in Babylonian and Assyrian texts,
depicted with the body of a man, the wings of
an eagle, and the face of a beast. Archaeologists
have found countless amulets and idols carved
with his image, used by pagans to invoke him.
He was called the King of the Evil Wind Spirits.
People wore his likeness to ward off other demons,
not realizing that inviting one darkness to fight
another still keeps you in the dark. And that's
how deception works. Evil distinguishing itself
as protection, even though it's evil itself.
Now I think we look again at Lububu. Wide, grand,
feral teeth, pointed ears like horns, yet dressed
in cute colors and childlike poses. It's the
same spiritual inversion. darkness dressed up
as charm. A demonic form softened into a friendly
shape. So we welcome it into our homes. And scripture,
by the way, warns us that Satan himself masquerades
as an angel of light. The devil rarely knocks
on your door in obvious form. He slides into
the shelf, into a pack labeled and collectible.
I think when you realize that millions of people
around the world have placed these figures in
their bedrooms, in their offices, in their kids
rooms, it starts to look less like marketing
trend and more like mass desanitation. Every
lububu drop becomes a ritual. People lining up,
people worshiping it. That to me is not casual
consumption. That's liturgy. It's worship without
awareness of what's being worshiped. The creature
may be small, but it's functioning like an idol,
like Moses when he had to come down and damn
the people that they were worshiping the golden,
I think it was bowl. What idols are not vessels
for spirits that crave attention. Many don't
understand this spiritual influence doesn't always
come from conscious invitation. They're not simply
just, eh, that will come on in. It comes through
agreement. When you admire, repeat, and share,
and emotionally invest into something that embodies
rebellion, mockery, and that is grotesque, you're
giving it power in your space. Whether you call
it energy, vibe, or this collector's obsession,
to me, it's all form of a spiritual exchange.
The Lububu figure's connection to Pazuzu may
not have been intended, but it's intention doesn't
erase influence. The ancient world was full of
objects that carried unseen forces and those
forces didn't die with them. They adapted to
new forms. Bezuzu was once a demon of the wind
and plague. In today's world, where ideals move
faster than air and culture kind of spreads like
this contagion, to me, his spirit would thrive
with variability. He is known to bring sickness
and fear and then offer those false protections
from it. I will take care of you when he cannot
and he doesn't have no power to, doesn't he?
Sound familiar? We live in a time of anxiety
and emptiness. Perfect soil for demonic marketing.
A being that once rolled over invisible currents,
now rise digital one. A wind demon. Kind of reborn
through the algorithm. So looking through scripture.
So one that kind of pops up is like Detrimony
chapter seven, verses 25 and 26. It says you
must burn up the images of their gods in the
fire. Do not covet the silver or gold on them.
Do not take it for yourselves or you will be
ensnared by it. For it is detestable to the Lord
your God. Do not bring any detestable thing into
your house or you like it will be set apart for
destruction. You must utterly detest and abhor
it and set it apart for destruction. There's
been a lot of cases of people getting these dolls.
and experiencing some of these quote -unquote
supernatural effects and burning them. And God
commanded the Israelites to burn anything that
is associated with idolatry, magic, sorcery.
And that's what we're called to do. And another
verse that kind of pops up in my research is
Acts 19 .9. So essentially what that says is
a number. So this is in regards to new Christians
who converted from paganism to give it a little
bit of context. And the verse states in the NIV,
a number who had practiced brought their scrolls
together and while some were telling the price,
burned them up in front of everyone. They calculated
the value of the scrolls and found it came out
to 50 ,000 pieces of silver. So again, God's
telling us as believers not to bring anything
that's potentially detestable into our house.
I do think a lot of these dolls, I don't think
an object just becomes possessed or haunted by
itself. I think it has to be purposely used in
an occult ritual. It needs, there has to be the
intention of somebody placing and opening that
door in the object in order for it to come to
that state. Again, don't bring it into your house,
guys. Like anything that's associated with something
demonic that calls itself a devil doll or is
a rendition, even a cute rendition of something
demonic, you're asking for trouble. And that
is the antithesis of wisdom. It's talking about
having discernment because the ritual could occur
in the front end, meaning that they're doing
the demonic spells as they produce these. toys
and push them to consumerism. And you're participating
in it and you may not be like, I'm going to buy
this doll because I want to worship it. I doubt
very few people do that, but I actually saw something
very powerful in church many years ago. They
were showing what true worship looked like. And
I don't remember whose concert it was, but they
showed this concert video and there was some
famous artists standing on stage and all the
guys and girls are jumping up and screaming and
trying to touch this person. And they were just
so happy to be in this guy's and listen to him
sing, talk on stage. They didn't think they were
worshiping him. But as you scream, cry, try to
touch his clothing, repeat his words, do all
those things that are on stage, that is a sense
of worship. And then if you're doing the same
thing with the Louboutin dolls and you're bringing
them into your house as you line up in these
long lines or you pay these astronomical values
to have them in your home, I don't know, $1 ,000,
five, whatever it takes, I'll buy it. That is
a sense of worship. And you're in that handshake,
in my opinion, at that point in time, where where
now you're falling into this demonic ritual of
having it in your home. So for my sake, I would
tell people, yeah, burn those dolls, as you said.
Let's burn those idols and get them out of our
home. Because whether you intend it to, going
through that process of this ritualistic of obtaining
the item, falling into the trap. Yeah, I want
to circle back where you said these people were
trying to touch the dude singing the song. I
don't know, man. I argue that's like worshiping
the performer. You're not really worshiping God
if you're focused on the guy. singing the song
and then giving him all the praise. That seems
like - That was the point. Oh, gotcha. I misunderstood
what you said. Pretend like it's Travis Scott.
That's the point. They were symbolizing what
worship should look like in church, like where
you're supposed to be worshiping God in this
fashion, but they were like an act of worship.
I'm sorry. I misunderstood what you said. I thought
you said they were at a worship service and instead
of worshiping God, they're like, I'm going to
touch this dude. He's awesome. I want to be like
him. I got it now. Makes sense. I don't some
of this research and we'll have to do an episode
on this because this is I feel like this is like
one of the I think forgotten things from the
past and I'm not going to go into a whole lot
of detail because I think this deserves its own
episode but There's a lot of accounts that pre
-Christ's resurrection, a lot of these like idol
statues and many cultures, Egypt, there's all
kinds of stories and I would love to go through
them. But these like statues would actually,
when they were spoken to, like these idols would
actually move, open their mouths, talk and speak.
And it was a pretty common knowledge that pre
-Jesus Christ that these statues were inanimate.
Like they weren't just, they just weren't inanimate
objects that people worship. They actually interacted.
You could hear them. They could move around.
I don't think they were moving around in the
sense that they would run across the field or
run across the temple, but they would, you could
interact with them. But interesting fact is like
when Jesus died for our sins and resurrected,
all that ceased and they attribute a lot of pagan
culture death because all of a sudden these statues
weren't animated anymore. And I think it's such
a super interesting story that's lost in the
halls of time. And I think it's often not brought
up either because again, gives more evidence
and credence to Jesus Christ being the son of
God. Was that because they like, when Christ
died and rose again for our sins, it was because
he like purged evil? Yeah. He bound the spirits.
He took all their power away so they couldn't
operate in our world the same way they did before
Christ. died and rose again, because when Christ
died, he descended to the deep as well to preach
the gospel there, you know, give judging. But
a lot of the thought processes, at least on the
theological side is that when he rose again,
he took all their power away. Like they still
manifest here and there, but they had to operate
in a different way. Not like the very visible,
you go to the temple and they could actually
say stuff to you. But once Christ rose from the
dead, that all stopped. Great topic. I would
love to get into it here, probably in November,
but Egyptians have. these stories, Greeks, Romans.
But like I said, once Christ rose from the dead,
that all that stopped, all that behavior stopped.
That's interesting. I haven't heard of that one.
I look forward to diving into it. It actually
reminded me of, and I don't know why. And I was
watching this film in reference to the moon landing,
and I was just watching it briefly as I was working
today. And it was these two astronauts that had
supposedly landed on the moon. And my feelings
is I'm not sure it actually happened. But listening
to them, and this was a kind of have a case for
Christ. And they said they landed on the moon.
And I don't remember these astronauts names,
but they were like, they talked to each other
on the moon. Obviously had communications in
their helmets as they're walking on the surface.
And they said, I could hear his thoughts before
he actually said his words. It was just like,
it freaked me out. Like the communication between
us two was totally different than anything else
I experienced on earth. And as he went down this
rabbit hole of why it could have happened, he
said, I think that was God's original design.
He goes, What they say is that devil has dominion
over earth, but we weren't on earth. We were
on the moon that was encrypted by sin at that
point in time. So that it was different. I don't
know if I believe that, but I thought it was
an interesting theory is if we ever were to build
a new civilization on the moon or on Mars, would
it have the same kind of playbook? Like, obviously.
Karstaden for our sins is the same playbook,
but would the devil be able to go to those places?
There's an interesting theory. I don't know if
I believe it or not, but there's some researcher.
I don't know if I mean, he believes in Christ.
I don't know if he's theologically sound, but
he claims that before the tower of Babel was
destroyed, we could all communicate telepathically.
And then when God destroyed the tower of Babel,
he suffered that connection that we were able
to do. So that's why he thinks, I wish I remembered
the guy's name. I wasn't prepared to have this
conversation, but he said that pre Babel. we
could speak orally, but most of the communication
was done through telepathy. And then that's why
when God destroyed the Tower of Babel, that's
why we ended up developing so many different
like root languages. That's actually the word
I was looking for, that they were speaking, even
though they were saying it, they were hearing
it like a few seconds in advance, and he thought
it was like telepathic. And it's interesting
to think about that I'm not a believer that we'll
actually have a full like civilization on any
other planet besides Earth before God comes back
and destroys this world. But it's interesting
to think if we do does the same kind of rule
book apply to where the devil can go there and
do all those things or else does it have to go
through this new fall? I don't know. Don't think
it will ever happen. Yeah. No, I think that whole
fall thing has to do with humans. So I think
where we go that fall nature is still going to
be with us until everything is renewed. Yeah.
I think what I'm talking about though is the
devil happened to have been in because God gave
him earth that he would he give him Mars or Mars
or the moon. You won't get super crazy in conspiracy
theories. I think there's a theory that you know
how there's There's like an asteroid belt between
Earth and Mars. And the theory was that was like
the devil's planet on time and God completely
annihilated it. Do I believe it? No, but it's
an interesting theory, sci -fi thing to look
into. Yeah, that's interesting. I've heard that.
That's cool. All right, let's keep this on track.
I do have a couple of interesting stories about
the Lububu dolls that I researched online. So
here's the first one. It's called The Collector
Who Woke at 314 AM. She said she brought a Lubu
on a whim. She got lucky because they're very
hard to find. of those late night online purchases
that feels innocent until it arrives at your
doorstep. When the box came, she absolutely loved
it. The little fingering, the strange comfort
in its stair. She placed it on the shelf across
from her bed. Seems like an odd location. The
first night she woke up suddenly. Clock said
3 .14 a .m. She really thought nothing of it
until it happened again the next night. And then
again, and every night, the same exact time she
woke up at 3 .14 a .m. After several nights,
she noticed the doll wasn't sitting quite the
same. Its head had turned slightly toward her.
She convinced herself. She bumped the shelf.
She put it back, faced forward, and went back
to bed. At 314 A .M., the next night, the sound
of something sliding against the wood pulled
her out of her sleep. She flicked on the lamp,
and the Labubu was facing her again. The grin
seemed wider in the yellow light. Her cat hissed
from the doorway. Fur bristled. She swore the
air smelled faintly of burnt sugar, sweet and
rotten. She moved the doll to another room, but
the waking up didn't stop. She told Reddit later,
I don't think the doll is haunted. I think the
time is. And that to me sounds exactly like the
kind of confusions demons love when fear becomes
fascination. She was still not convinced this
doll, even though it was turning his head, was
possessed. It was just something about this time
at 3 14 a .m. The next one called the trip home.
Another story came from a woman in northern Italy.
She bought this doll during a trip to Tokyo,
a souvenir, she called it. She said because it
looked like mischief with a smile. But once she
got home, her dog refused to come near the suitcase
it was in. That night she unpacked it. The power
flickered. By morning, her husband found the
TV unplugged and the patio door wide open, even
though the alarm was set and it did not go off.
Over the next week, the animals on their property
grew agitated. Birds flew right into their windows.
The family horse kicked through the stall doors.
Her neighbor joked, that she brought home a curse.
She laughed until the night she dreamed of something
small, crawling across her chest and whispering
the name of her child. See, at that point, she
mailed the doll to a cousin two towns away. Within
two days, her cousin called her and said, I think
this thing is moving. They decided to burn it.
Smoke smelled like plastic and cinnamon. The
cousin said, when it melted, I heard something
hiss, not the fire, something else. That's true
or not, no one knows, but the family never spoke
about the little boo boo again. I want to go
back to your first story. interesting because
the hour between three and four AM is known as
the witching hour, the devil's hour. Yeah. And
apparently a lot of people have, I get up every
night at three, three AM because I have to take
a massive pee. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, it's
interesting because it's three AM to four AM
is typically the inversion of Christ because
most people think that Christ died at three PM.
So just the devil. doing what he does is inverting
everything. But yeah, I find it interesting that
this woman's waking up at three, 14, and it's
right during the witching hour of the devil's
hour. 100%. And the next story is called the
video that watched back. One of the most viral
clips came from TikTok. Guy set his little boo
-boo on a shelf and left the camera running overnight.
The caption on it said, testing the myth. At
2 .59 AM, the footage shows nothing, just a still
room. Then for a single frame, the doll - Paul's
head is turned by 301. It's back. Now people
argued it was editing, but the next video was
worse. The man posted that his ring light turned
on by itself at 314 AM. Oh gosh. He showed the
timestamp. Comments flooded in. Mine does that
too. I've seen this before. It's always 314 AM.
Then he went silent. Account. was deleted. Another
user claimed to be his roommate and said the
guy moved out suddenly after hearing a child
giggle through the air vents. The video still
circulates in low res reposts, glitching every
few seconds like it doesn't want to be watched.
Next we're going to go to the next one, the nursery
gift. A young mother received a little boo -boo
as a gift from her sister, a pastel colored version,
cute enough for a nursery shelf. She placed it
next to her baby monitor. For the first few nights,
everything was perfectly fine. Then she She began
hearing faint static from the monitor, followed
by what sounded like humming. Not the baby's,
not hers, just a low sing -song tune. One night,
she looked at the monitor screen and saw movement.
Baby was still asleep. But something small and
shadow -colored shifting beside the crib rail.
She ran it. Nothing there. But when she looked
back at the monitor, the Labubu wasn't on the
shelf anymore. She found it on the floor beside
the crib, sitting upright facing the baby. The
sister who had given it swore she bought it from
the official pop mark drop. No rituals, no curses,
just commerce. But that mother took no chances.
She buried it under a maple tree in the backyard
and prayed over the soil. She told her pastor
later, it's probably silly. He said, no, it's
discernment. You got to burn it. You got to burn
it, man. And the last story here is called the
triangle expert. This one started as a joke on
Reddit. The user posted, if you line up three
Labooboos in a triangle and say the words from
the creepy nursery rhyme, something happens.
People laughed until a few tried it. One commenter
said his lights flickered and his Alexa device
began talking. even though it was unplugged.
Another claimed his phone camera crashed. Reopening
it, it showed a blurred image of a grinning face
that wasn't the doll's. A few weeks later, a
small Discord group dedicated to testing haunted
little booboos went silent. One of the moderators
posted the last message. Don't do the triangle,
it's not a meme. Their subreddit thread was deleted
two days later. Was it performance art, viral
marketing, or just another digital seance carried
out for likes? Maybe, but that's the problem
with modern world. Even - the jokes sound like
rituals. But I think what we see here, there's
many stories out there as if these dolls hauntings
and this crazy stuff happening, but points back
to demonic possession. Yeah. I just urge everyone
listening to be careful with this. Not even be
careful. Just don't touch it. I think sometimes
even if these things aren't quote unquote haunted
or possessed, if you go with the intention of
an expectation, something's going to manifest
in it. And it's something that you yourself cannot
defend against. The only way you can defend against
it is with the power of Jesus Christ. This is
why I'm hesitant to do some of these episodes
and tell some of these stories because inevitably
somebody out there gets curious and ends up bringing
something into their living space or onto their
person thinking it's cool or it's a joke. And
I don't know, man. I guess this topic's a hard
one for me. It's just tough, man. To put it plainly,
life and death, more importantly, the afterlife,
is more important than testing any stupid prank.
So stay close to God, have discernment, stay
away from this shit because it's... Not worth
it. It's not just simply ghost and goblins as
you read about in books. It's the devil prowling
the earth like a lion, as it clearly states in
the Bible. Yeah. It's one thing to be wise and
shrewd. I think it's good to know that there
is stuff out there. So we know to stay away from
it, or we know how to protect ourselves from
it. It's the only thing that goes searching for
it. God doesn't want you, he doesn't want you
to talk to mediums. He doesn't want you to talk
to psychics. He doesn't want you doing Ouija
boards, tarot cards, these stupid crystals people
bring into their houses. they all have something
attached to it. And even if they don't, when
you bring them in, if you have the intention
of manifesting something into it, you can do
it. It's not you doing it. It's you inviting
something into it. So I just urge anybody who
has this stuff in their house to pray over it
in Jesus' name, bless their house, cast out any
evil and clean spirits out of their environment,
off their person. And if it gets bad enough,
even Jesus said that the apostles went out and
they were able to cast some demons out and they
came back to Christ and said, there were some
people that were possessed and I couldn't cast
them out. Like why? And Jesus said, those can
only be cast out through prayer and fasting.
So there is a hierarchy with some of this stuff
where you have to take that extra step fast,
no food, no drink, some out of days, hours, whatever,
and with intense prayer. So you don't want to
get to that point where you've invited something
in that's so strong that the next thing you know,
you're in continual prayer, you're fasting, you're
abstaining food, water. The best and wisest decision
is not to even mess with it. Know what's out
there so you know what to avoid. And just come
in with the full armor of God, knowing that he
can and will protect you. We've said this hundreds
of times on this show. Ask for prayer, for wisdom
and discernment. Prayer is your most powerful
weapon against all this stuff. And the knowledge,
the shrewdness to know what it is and what to
avoid. Listen to your spirit. Your spirit is
going to guide you and tell you if something
is evil, if it's for you, if it's not. A lot
of this stuff is very tempting. It's very, it
can even be seen as sexy and cool and, but it's
all bad, man. We're all appointed to die once.
Not all of us are appointed to die. twice and
trust me, you don't want to be part of that second
death. Cause that, that one you're not coming
back from. Yeah. It's that's the point of doing
this show though, because you could have some
emo that believes in God and just thinks this
doll is really cute and wants to take it home
with them. And maybe the heroes and say, I do
believe in God and I don't want this satanic
thing. I just want the fangs or coal or whatever.
So maybe we could head something off there. But
I think a lot of people ask, why are you just
talking about la boo boo? Cause there's a lot
of things that have occurred. This is not the
first. time it's happened. It's just what's popular
in culture now. Have you heard about the Annabelle
case, the raggedy doll behind the glass? Yeah,
they made big movies about it. I forget what
they're called, like the Conjuring. Maybe it's
not the Conjuring, but yeah, like they're associated
with Ed and Lorraine Warren, I think. Yeah. So
picture this. A quiet museum room, lights dimmed,
air thick with the weight of silence. And behind
the glass, a simple doll sets up a fabric body,
red yarn. button eyes that just seem a little
too knowing. Next to her, a plight little sign
that says, only one word, warning, the doll's
name is Annabelle. The story begins back in the
1970s. A nursing student received a Raggedy Ann
doll as a gift from her mother. Sweet, sentimental,
innocent. But innocence can't be the perfect
disguise. At first, it's just small things. Tiny
movements, the feeling that the doll isn't quite
where it was before. Then come the notes written
on parchment the students... own with messages
like help us. A medium is called, claiming the
spirit of a young girl named Annabel Higgins
has attached itself to the doll. The girls, moved
by sympathy, allow the child to stay. That was
their mistake. A strange occurrence grows darker.
Scratches appear on the walls. Shadows move across
the floor. One man nearly crashes his car after
mocking the doll. Fear becomes a presence in
the apartment. Doors slam. Objects levitate.
And what began as curiosity turns into oppression.
Finally, the paranormal investigators Ed and
Lorraine Warren, as you said, devout Catholics
are brought in. They determined that no innocent
child spirit was ever there. What they had is
deceived those young woman was something far
older, far curler, demonic entity, using the
image of innocence to gain permission into their
home. The Warrens took the doll, sealed it, and
placed it inside the occult museum. And the warning
was simple, do not touch, do not open. To this
day, Annabelle sits behind the glass case. Rosaries
draped across the enclosure, prayers written
around it like... caged words, and visitors report
nausea, dizziness, sudden cold. Now, some mock
her and pay her for it. Accidents, illness, eerie
coincidence that seemed too precise, too random.
Now, skeptics call it folklore and superstition
turned into spectacle, but believers and the
Warrens were clear about this. Call it a conduit,
an object that deliberately used by a demonic
spirit to maintain influence through fear and
fascination. Because that is how the demonic
presence works. It feeds on that intention, much
like Labubu, and it thrives on the story. Do
you ever, maybe you know the answer to this because
I don't, I don't understand. They collect this
occult stuff like this possessed stuff. Why do
you think they collect it and lock it behind
a door or a window and not destroy it? Does that
make any sense to you? I don't grasp that whole
concept. To me, it's fear and fascination. Like
it's a way to study it. to observe it, but they
think because they lock it behind glass that
they can be safe from it. It's in this isolated
location. It's locked behind this vault and key
and it won't bother anybody, but we can play
with it. We can experience it when we want to.
And they don't quite want to destroy it because
they, it comes down to this academic perspective
of it. So I think that's why folks collect the
occult, but they try to make it safe in those
regards. But the thing is, in my opinion, and
this is just my, you can never make it safe.
Like now. You're tempting someone. I don't know
if I think these people were both dead, but one
day someone's going to take it out and bring
it somewhere. I just don't understand the concept
of it's like playing with fire to a certain extent.
Like you have a match and you're playing with
gasoline and you're hoping you don't strike it
and it flies out of your hand. And next thing
you're starting to raging forest fire. I've always,
I'm not, this isn't me being judgmental or being
critical. I've always struggled with those two
because they, and again, I'm not, I don't know
their hearts and I don't really know their stories
other than what you see that's put in some sort
of fantastic. type narrative on TV to sell tickets.
I just never understood why they did some of
the stuff that they did, like keeping the stuff.
God says to destroy it. Like he commands you
destroy it. It was so bad that even these idols
that they burnt down, God did not want you to
keep the gold and silver, which was worth money.
Like he just wanted you to get rid of it forever.
And like they're collecting it. Is it to sell
money? If you're a Christian and if these people
claim that they were like, wouldn't you know
what it is? You don't need to study it. Are you
trying to prove it to unbelievers? I mean at
this point you just get rid of it. Forever. Unless
the only other thing I can figure is that they
think that this demon's trapped in there and
they don't want to release it. If they destroy
it, they think maybe it would, like with Jesus
with the pigs where he cast them out of, or he
cast them out of the man and he put them in pigs.
The only thing I can figure is that maybe they
come to the conclusion that if they destroy this
object that this demon possesses, that it will
go somewhere else. Maybe. I just think it's the
human experience. Like it's this fascination
where they don't quite want to destroy it, but
they don't want to harm anybody. isolate it,
and perhaps they made a lot of money off this
stuff as well. I think they did a lot of good
things, but they also made money off of it. Yeah,
if someone knows, if a listener knows why they
keep it instead of destroy it, I would love to
know. This email is, I think it's in the show
notes. Yeah, let us know. I think the Bible's
pretty clear that you should just destroy it.
Right. I don't think a demon is just going to
hang out in a doll. They're supernatural. They
can go wherever. Like why would they just hang
out in the doll if they're like, I'm just going
to hang out behind this glass cage for the next
50 years. The next case I researched. was called
Robert the Dull. Have you heard of Robert the
Dull? I ran across it in my research, but you
go ahead and tell the story. So this one's pretty
interesting. Down in Key West, behind glass of
a museum case, there's such a doll named Robert.
He's about the size of a small child dressed
in a sailor suit, holding little stuffed animal
of his own, almost a child kind of imitating
his parent. His face is worn smooth, his butt
and eyes clouded and uneven, but there's something
about his stillness that doesn't feel at all
still. The story goes that Robert once belonged
to a boy named named Robert Eugene Odo back in
the early 1900s. The boy adored him, spoke to
him, took him everywhere. But soon, strange things
started happening. The boy's parents would hear
him whispering to the doll, only to hear a deeper
voice answer right back. Years later, when the
boy grew up and moved away. Yeah, sure, Robert.
It's like my son saying, Emma did it. You can't
even do it. Years later, when the boy grew up
and moved away, he left the doll behind in his
family home, propped up in a... window overlooking
the street. A passerby claimed they still saw
it blink, tilt its head, or press its hand against
the glass if it was watching them. Eventually,
the doll was donated to the East Martello Museum,
where it still sits today, encased, but not entirely
silent. Now the story has evolved into something
interactive, the curse that invites participation.
The rule is simple. If you take Robert's photo
without asking his permission, bad luck follows.
Car troubles, illness, sudden arguments, or unexpected
bills. The only way to undo it, they say, is
to write him a letter of apology. The museum
has received thousands of letters over the years,
neatly folded in envelopes, handwritten, and
trembling. Dear Robert, I'm sorry I laughed.
My car died. My phone cracked. My boss yelled
at me. If you please forgive me, I'll never mock
you again. And people mean it. And people mean
it. They repent to this doll. And that part that
chills me the most. Because when repentance is
misplaced, as you stated, it becomes worship.
When fear drives you to seek forgiveness from
a spirit, you're not escaping the curse. You're
absolutely feeding it. And I think from a Christian
perspective, this is a textbook deception. It's
what happens when reverence replaces reason and
fear replaces faith. The first commandment tells
us plainly, you shall have no other gods before
me. Yeah, here we are watching people mail letters
to a stuffed figure believe in their misfortune
depends on its approval. The demonic doesn't
always Sometimes it sits quietly in a museum,
dressed like a seller, waiting for someone to
believe in it again. Man, that's crazy, man.
That's no different than 1000 BC, someone going
up to a golden idol and praying to it and asking
for forgiveness. When the only person you'd ask
for forgiveness is Jesus Christ, man. He's quick
to forgive, really quick to forgive. And all
the power lies in Christ. None of the power lies
with the demonic force. Christ says, how many
times in the Bible do not fear? The only thing
you should fear is God. That's it. That's the
only thing you need to fear is God and he loves
you. There's a big difference. Like he loves
you and he forgives you and he wants you and
he wants a relationship and he's quick to forgive
and slow to anchor. It's insanity to me. And
even think about the Old Testament, we're fortunate.
We live in this like New Testament era where
we have Christ who is doubtful of our sins and
rose again and proven the afterlife. But even
if you look at the New Testament, God was very
prevalent in people's lives. Everybody, if you
were a Christian and you're not a really Christian,
I guess if you were a Jew. following the Old
Testament ways and following the biblical heroes.
You saw some miraculous things. It's just like
going up on the mountain of Moses when he's going
to get the 10 commandments. And by the time he
comes down, because he was gone for a little
while talking to God, they start worshiping a
golden idol. It's like, you saw the power and
glory of God. Like you saw the ark. You saw all
these things. Like you're living in the time
of the Old Testament that was new to you at that
time. It's bizarre to me that people could fall
for these tricks. Have you heard of Okuku? If
I'm saying that name correctly, the doll who
grows hair. I have your own point today, brother.
You go ahead and tell the story. All right. So
in a small temple. in Hakido, Japan. There sets
a doll named Okuku. She's about 16 inches tall,
dressed in a faded kimono, her face pale and
delicate, her black hair hanging neatly around
her porcelain cheeks. The priests there say the
doll once belonged to a little girl who died
suddenly in the early 1900s, heartbroken. Her
family placed the doll in an altar in remembrance,
a memorial to a child they could not bear to
let go. Then something strange began to happen.
The doll's hair, once cut short in child style,
started to grow slowly, subtly, just a few millimeters
each year. The family noticed first, then the
priest, and soon the story spread beyond the
shrine walls. Even now, the temple caretakers
trim Okuku's hair regularly, offering the clippings
to the spirit of the child they believe remains
within. Scientists who examined the strands confirmed
they were real human hair. Others claimed humidity
or static electricity could make the fibers lengthen
over time. But explanations don't satisfy the
silence in the room because everyone who visits
says the same thing. The doll feels alive. It's
easy to be romantic about this, a haunting like
this one. There's tenderness to it. Beauty and
grief made visible. Okuku is often described
as a love story. A family refusing to forget,
a community agreeing to remember, maybe that's
where it began. But from a Christian perspective,
even the softest hauntings can have a spiritual
danger because love isn't supposed to anchor
souls to earth. When the spirit lingers, it's
not peace, it's bondage. Hebrews 9 .27 says this,
it is appointed for man to die once and after
that come judgment. Our loved ones do not wander
between worlds. They rest where they are lost.
The ideal of spirit still exists. staying behind
in a doll might comfort grieving hearts, but
it contradicts the truth of eternity. And when
we create a shrine for the spirit, lighting candles,
trimming hair, or whispering these prayers to
it, we risk turning remembrance into reverence.
What begins as mourning becomes ritual, and ritual
invites presence. Not the child's, but something
else. Yeah, man. All scary stories, man. Nah.
I think what it comes down to is I just think
there's a lot of, I think the main ways that
these objects, these inanimate objects get disaster
through a call practices, which essentially is
like voodoo, seances, summonings, witchcraft.
I think objects can become cursed through intentional
invocation or unrepentant sins. Like that story
you just told, you think this object's holding
something near and dear to your heart and you're
deceived. I think you can unintentionally invite
something into. that object that is your object
of adoration representing something else. And
you know, that's a sin. That's idolatry to a
certain extent. You might be able to pick up
one of these silly dolls and it could be completely
harmless, but. If your intention, you can set
up an invitation to something evil and vile to
come into this object because it's your intention
to, like you're opening that door. I think people
hear the word magic and I think of Harry Potter
and they try to make it seem cool and fun. And
there's white magic and there's black magic.
It's all magic, man. It's all forbidden. It's
all cursed. It's all demonic. It's just a tough
subject for me, dude, because there's so many,
there's so many dark holes people go down. And
like I said before, culture and media try to
make magic. sound appealing and it can be good.
Dude, it's not good. The only power you need
is from Christ. That's why God forbid all this
stuff, because you're using the power from something
else that's outside of Jesus. It's outside of
God. It's outside of the Holy Spirit. And all
that is going to drag you down to the deepest
pits of hell. It's going to destroy your mental
and spiritual health, your emotional health.
And people think it's cool now. Man, it's not.
It's something you don't want to mess with. God
didn't ban it because he's trying to hold out
on you. Banned it because it's bad for you. There's
a reason. God doesn't withhold something from
you. I got one more story for you. I know you
don't like him, but I got one more story for
you. We're praying we're doing this episode again.
Yeah, let's do it, man. Let's do it. All right,
so. Here's my fourth case file that I researched.
It was a doll called Peggy and it was titled
the YouTube Headache. So her name is Peggy and
she's proof that the age of haunted objects didn't
end with dusty museums. It just moved online
and towards the algorithm. Peggy is a plain -faced
doll with glass eyes and a permanent scowl kept
a day in a paranormal museum under lock, key,
and constant surveillance. The legend says that
anyone who stares at her for too long especially
through a computer screen, pays a price. Headaches,
nausea, panic, electronic malfunctions. Viewers
have claimed that lights flickered, computers
froze, or shapes appeared in their reflections
while watching her video. Some swore they heard
a whisper in their speakers just after the clip
ended. Before the museum would display her, visitors
had to sign waivers acknowledging potential psychological
effects. They watch Peggy through glass, and
guides remind... them. The curse isn't broken
by distance. The lens carries it. That single
line is chilling because it feels made for our
time. The old hauntings needed houses, needed
dolls, needed possessions. This one's just needed
Wi -Fi. The spirits no longer lingered in basements
or in graveyards. They ride a bandwidth straight
into your living room or into your bedroom or
to your nursery or wherever you're streaming
it. Think about that. We don't gather around
campfires anymore. We gather around screens.
A glow of of a monitor has replaced the flame.
Dinner has become the new seance table. And every
viral cursed clip is a modern ghost lit. One
freeze frame of Peggy's head, tilt it. Just so,
one eye catching the glare, and suddenly your
heart skips a beat. Your body reacts. Something
behind your eyes tightens like a change in weather
you can't explain. You feel seen, and that's
how it starts. As I always end these stories,
from a Christian point of view, Peggy's story
exposes some deeper than superstitions. It shows
how the spirit of fear has learned to digitize
itself. Second Timothy 1 .7 says this, for God
has not given us a spirit of fear, but a power
of love and sound mind. Fear itself can be a
spirit, and when millions stare into the same
fearful image, they open the same shared window.
The devil no longer needs a doorway. He uses
a click through. A cursed image isn't just pixels.
It's attention baptized in anxiety, and attention
when mixed with fear is a form of worship. I
think what makes Peggy dangerous isn't just that
she blinks her moves, is that people expect her
to. They feed into her curiosity, into her dread,
into her fascination. Every view, every comment,
every late night rewatch turns into rumor and
ritual. Demonic power thrives on fascination.
It's fueled by the imagination's consent. The
more you fear, the deeper you look. Just like
Eve, the glance at the forbidden fruit. The danger
begins not with action, but with interest. And
what we're seeing with this doll is that Now
I don't have to be in its presence. I don't have
to apologize to it. I don't have to worship it
in there, and it's in the algorithm. It's in
the TV shows you're watching. All of those things,
you have to drive discernment into them of what
you're bringing in your homes, because this doll
proves it, that you have to be careful what you
consume. Yep. Detrimony, chapter 18, verse 10
through 12. There should not be found among you
anyone who makes his son or daughter pass through
the fire, or one who practices with witchcraft,
or a soothsayer, or one who... or a sorcerer,
or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a
spiritist, or the one who calls up the dead.
For all who do these things are in abomination
to the Lord. Don't do it, man. Don't do it, girl.
But yeah, man, it's a tough episode for me because
this stuff makes me really uncomfortable. Do
you want to pray us out? We will be appraised.
How do you want to do this? I want to talk about
a couple more things. I know we're running out
of time, but I want to talk about a couple more
things. Okay. I'm going to make it just a little
bit more uncomfortable. I know it's late. You're
about to go to bed. Leave a light on for God.
God is the light, bro. No, what I want to close
with, right, is, so I've told you guys some stories
and we talk a lot about the dolls. We started
with Labooboo. That's the new fascination. It's
replaced Annabelle. It's replaced this Japanese
doll, replaced all these things. It's what people
are seeking out. There's millions of things that
have always been there. When people talk about,
as much as you've talked about Jay, the medians
or the wizards, people go and read their palm
and read the crystal ball and have the crystals
or the Ouija boards. people play with that are
sold right next to the Monopoly board so people
think they are games. These are not games. These
are demonic tools. And when you do these things,
you're inviting demons into your home. We could
talk all day about horrible stories that come
out of these Ouija board things or these, what
do they call them? The people you go, the mediums.
I can always call them mediums. Psychics. Psychics.
That's the word I'm looking for. Psychics where
people go and they tell me the future. They've
been around for a whole long time, but that's
all witchcraft. It's all forbidden and we should
not be. taking in it because there's no goodness
that's going to come from that. And I think that's
like the real power and society. I remember being
a cop and there was this gang called MS 13 that
really hated my guts because I locked up a lot
of MS 13 members. And I remember going to this
crime scene and they did this thing called, I
think it was called Santa Maria, where they make
a doll of you and they put a picture of your
face on the doll and they buried underground
and they do all these weird ritual things and
they think it's going to have power over you.
because they wanted me gone because I was locking
up all these gang members at the time. And the
truth is because I was protected by Jesus Christ,
their demonic rituals had no power over me. They
could not come into my life. So I guess what
I'm trying to say is we have control. We have
dominion over our spirit and all you have to
do is not invite it in. It doesn't matter what
your enemies are doing against you. We can fight
against it because we have the power and glory
of Jesus and God in our favor and they are stronger
than any of this. But you have the discernment
and not this stuff in and it's been around didn't
start with a little boo -boo and it's not going
to end with a little boo -boo. There's going
to be some new rage that's going to come and
try to steal your attention away, but stay away
from it. Yeah. Stay away from it. Yeah, man.
You probably tell them super uncomfortable. I'll
just say it again. Yeah. Don't mess with it.
Don't mess with it. Don't think it's cool. Don't
think it's trendy. If you're a teenager and you're
debating it or you want to be cool with your
friends, don't do it, man. You're called to be
separate. You're called to be different by Christ.
Not to participate in these worldly demonic things.
Just remember who you are. You are made to have
a relationship with God. Jesus will forgive you.
And the crazy thing about it, man, is the closer
you get to God, he will answer your prayers.
He will give you wisdom. He will give you discernment.
These are free gifts. These are gifts. of the
spirit and they're so much better than any of
this other stuff that the world is offering.
Yeah, I mean, I just think. We have to pray it
out, brother. We'll close in prayer, but what
do you want to leave our guest with tonight?
Ah man, same thing I always do. Jesus loves you.
We love you. I love you, brother. Just ask for
wisdom and discernment through Jesus Christ.
He will give you the Holy Spirit. He will guide
your paths. You don't need to go get a doll or
look into these weird occult things because though
they are tempting, they are deception. And though
they may tell you some sort of truth, they do
not tell you the whole truth. They do not tell
you where that path leads. They try to make it
line with flowers and beautiful trees, but the
further you get down, the darker it gets, the
more dead everything around you is. And the end
result is the gates of hell. And when you start
off on it, it doesn't look like it and you can't
see far enough down it. But the beautiful thing
is if you are on that path and Christ can save
you from it and take you off of it. Amen, brother.
I think when you look at everything we've talked
about tonight, the haunted stories, the rumors,
the symbols. theology, it comes down to this.
Evil rarely shows up as what you'd expect evil
to look like. It shows up as fascination, as
beauty, as something that feels harmless, even
cute. Labubu, Annabelle, Robert, Okuku, Ouija
board, so many other things. They're all different
masks worn by the same ancient pattern. The enemy
takes the familiar and dresses it up as charm,
then waits for our curiosity to turn into attention.
and our attention to turn into invitation. The
world calls us to this aesthetic, and scripture
calls it temptation. I think every culture tells
ghost stories, but the Bible tells us why they
stick. Because human beings are spiritual creatures
living in a physical world. We can feel... what
we can't see. We know something's out there,
and we spend our lives trying to name it, to
explain it, or buy a version we can control.
But when we play with darkness, even just for
fun, we're still giving it a seat at the table.
For me, and from a Christian perspective, these
things, the haunted dolls, the curse toys, the
occult games are not just myths. The reflections
of how spiritual reality bleeds into material
life. The devil doesn't need possession when
distraction works just as well. He doesn't need
to terrorize if he can trivialize. The moment
we stop taking holiness seriously, we start calling
the unholy entertainment. But here's the other
side of the truth. Believers don't have to live
in fear. The demonic world is real, but it's
Defeated. Christ authority isn't shaken by fork
lower or fear. A toy can't overpower a temple
filled with the spirit of God. Fear gives darkness
permission. Faith revokes it. So the real lesson
of Lububu's phenomenon isn't really burn every
doll or fear every rumor. It's this. Guard your
gaze. Test your spirit. Don't trade discernment
for aesthetics. The devil works through what
we normalize, not just what we worship. We live
in an age that blurs good and evil into content.
That's why the greatest spiritual act you can
perform today might be as simple as this. Turning
your attention back to what is holy, to God,
to Jesus, to the Trinity, to the kingdom of heaven.
Because in the end, the battle isn't over toys
or symbols or stories, it's over your very heart.
And I think that's what I close with, man. And
close us in prayer. Let's wrap this up. Dude,
I'll just say there's nothing new under the Sun.
It's just repackaged, man. Just repackaged. Oh,
thank you Lord Jesus for bringing us together
tonight. Please rebuke and disperse all evil
spirits that may have come into our presence
and our listeners presence. Please give us wisdom
and discernment. Give our listeners wisdom and
discernment. If there's anyone out there listening
that is tempted by this. cast that thought from
their head, put a hedge of protection around
them and us. And Jesus, we just love you and
we pray in your name. In Jesus' name we pray.
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