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No fireball, no wreckage. 00:01:11.650 --> 00:01:14.670 The object keeps moving as if physics simply 00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:17.290 stepped aside. Tonight we're going into the hearing 00:01:17.290 --> 00:01:19.849 room where lawmakers rolled the video. You will 00:01:19.849 --> 00:01:22.790 hear frustration from the members. You will hear 00:01:22.790 --> 00:01:25.329 what the clip appears to show, and you'll hear 00:01:25.329 --> 00:01:28.549 testimony hinting at recovered craft, not built. 00:01:48.349 --> 00:01:51.230 Thank you everyone. It takes such great courage 00:01:51.230 --> 00:01:53.250 to come forward and we acknowledge that. And 00:01:53.250 --> 00:01:56.290 I hope that you see that we are taking that seriously. 00:01:57.609 --> 00:01:59.969 Thankful for what you're doing today. I'm also 00:01:59.969 --> 00:02:02.349 very thankful for previous witnesses that had 00:02:02.349 --> 00:02:04.450 come forward. I see Matthew Brown in the audience. 00:02:04.870 --> 00:02:07.629 He courageously stepped forward and was as a 00:02:07.629 --> 00:02:10.330 witness. I encourage everybody to look and seek 00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:12.430 his testimony. I want to thank the people that 00:02:12.430 --> 00:02:15.370 came in our first hearing, Ryan Graves, David 00:02:15.370 --> 00:02:17.930 Gru, David Fravor. And in our second hearing, 00:02:18.189 --> 00:02:21.069 Admiral Gallaudet, Lou Elizondo, and Mr. Gold, 00:02:21.189 --> 00:02:23.860 and the many others that have come forward. We 00:02:23.860 --> 00:02:26.379 hear you and it's time that we enough is enough. 00:02:26.419 --> 00:02:28.439 It's time that we take action. Look, I'm not 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.219 jumped to the conclusion that I believe that 00:02:30.219 --> 00:02:32.259 there are aliens coming from another planet, 00:02:32.300 --> 00:02:34.639 but I'm open to that. And I think that it's my, 00:02:34.819 --> 00:02:37.159 our responsibility, especially when we're seeing 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.699 that we have a government that is blocking simply 00:02:39.699 --> 00:02:42.120 blocking operation from us. Just last night, 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.719 I tried to get an amendment onto the national 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:47.520 defense authorization act that fit in the during 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.620 this of that bill to have UAP disclosure and 00:02:50.620 --> 00:02:54.039 conveniently. It was named non -germane, mostly 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.860 deemed by staff, not even an elected official. 00:02:57.139 --> 00:02:58.979 This is the kind of stuff that we repeatedly 00:02:58.979 --> 00:03:02.960 see. Last year, we were blocked by someone in 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.580 house administration from being able to receive 00:03:05.580 --> 00:03:09.020 a full briefing from Arrow. So not an elected 00:03:09.020 --> 00:03:11.840 official, but someone in staff blocked us. And 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.629 I've had it. Enough is enough. You just heard 00:03:14.629 --> 00:03:17.650 something rare in Washington. A thank you layered 00:03:17.650 --> 00:03:21.090 over a warning. Pilots, Intel officers and investigators 00:03:21.090 --> 00:03:23.370 got name -checked. People who for years have 00:03:23.370 --> 00:03:25.729 risked careers by stepping into the light. Brian 00:03:25.729 --> 00:03:28.590 Graves talking about metallic orbs pacing Navy 00:03:28.590 --> 00:03:31.610 fighters off the East coast. David Fravor describing 00:03:31.610 --> 00:03:34.669 a tic -tac -toe that out accelerated anything 00:03:34.669 --> 00:03:37.500 we could fly. And David Grush. alleging crash 00:03:37.500 --> 00:03:40.180 retrieval and reverse engineering buried under 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:42.919 classification. The message from the chair wasn't 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:44.620 something we hear you and we're being blocked. 00:03:44.780 --> 00:03:47.379 Now, why does this matter? because it reframes 00:03:47.379 --> 00:03:49.340 the whole conversation. For decades, the government 00:03:49.340 --> 00:03:52.960 reflex with UAP wasn't curiosity, it was containment. 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:56.280 The playbook was, dismiss pilots as mistaken, 00:03:56.539 --> 00:03:58.819 bury radar tracks under sources and methods, 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.460 and promise that someone behind the scenes will 00:04:01.460 --> 00:04:03.280 look into it. But when a member of Congress says 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.000 on mic that unelected staffers quashed a briefing 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.319 and marked a disclosure amendment non -germane 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:11.780 before debate, that's not just inertia. That's 00:04:11.780 --> 00:04:14.039 active gatekeeping. Now, let's be fair. There 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.319 are reasons to protect sensitive If sensor specs, 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.439 engagement roles, or platform capabilities are 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.980 baked into a video, You can't casually drop that 00:04:22.980 --> 00:04:24.939 onto the internet. Sources and methods matter. 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.000 A secrecy is supposed to protect the nation, 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.720 not protect the narrative. When lawmakers themselves 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.000 are saying, we're not being allowed to see this 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.560 video. You've crossed from necessary protection 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.759 into accountability failure. Now think about 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:38.819 the posture the public has been asked to hold 00:04:38.819 --> 00:04:40.939 for years. On one hand, there's nothing here. 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:42.939 And on the other hand, we can't show you what's 00:04:42.939 --> 00:04:45.720 here. That contradiction burns trust. The pilots 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.019 aren't anonymous now. The radar techs aren't 00:04:48.019 --> 00:04:50.379 anonymous. The incidents from the Nimitz off 00:04:50.379 --> 00:04:53.540 San Diego to the East Coast Gimbal video. aren't 00:04:53.540 --> 00:04:56.180 whispers, they're logged, timestamps, censored, 00:04:56.420 --> 00:04:58.339 recorded, and that creates new obligations. If 00:04:58.339 --> 00:05:00.259 the government wants public confidence, it has 00:05:00.259 --> 00:05:02.399 to treat the public like adults, admit what it 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:04.579 knows, admit what it doesn't, and stop pretending 00:05:04.579 --> 00:05:06.959 curiosity is the enemy. So when the congressman 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.279 says enough is enough, he's not just venting, 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.800 he's setting the stage for what comes next. However 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.660 limited, rolled in public form, where everyone 00:05:14.660 --> 00:05:17.040 has their own reaction. That clip isn't a read 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.139 it leak. It isn't a rumor. It's Congress saying, 00:05:19.220 --> 00:05:21.139 watch this with us. And that's where we go next. 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.660 The date is specific. October 30th, 2024. The 00:05:24.660 --> 00:05:28.120 platform is specific, MQ -9 Reapers. The munitions 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:31.759 is specific, a Hellfire. You don't need to be 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:33.759 a munitions expert to know the headline. When 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.839 a Hellfire hits you, you don't shrug it off, 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.620 which is why this footage, if it shows what it 00:05:38.620 --> 00:05:40.860 appears to show, is a problem. I want to cue 00:05:40.860 --> 00:05:44.120 up a video that I've been given. And before it 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:45.959 starts, I'm going to describe this was taken 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.769 October 30th. of 2024. This video is of an MQ 00:05:49.769 --> 00:05:53.430 -9 drone tracking an orb or this object off the 00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:56.389 coast of Yemen. You'll see that another MQ -9 00:05:56.389 --> 00:05:59.470 launched a Hellfire missile. You cannot see that 00:05:59.470 --> 00:06:01.430 drone and I'm not going to explain it to you. 00:06:01.490 --> 00:06:03.689 You'll see exactly what it does. Let's pin down 00:06:03.689 --> 00:06:06.740 what we just heard. An MQ -9 Reaper. long endurance, 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:09.019 high altitude, stacked with sensors, tracks a 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:10.899 spherical target over water. A second Reaper 00:06:10.899 --> 00:06:13.439 off -frame launches a Hellfire. If you have never 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.819 dug into the hardware, here's a quick tour. Fire 00:06:15.819 --> 00:06:18.699 refers to the AGM -114 family, laser -guided 00:06:18.699 --> 00:06:22.139 on radar -guided missiles with range suited for 00:06:22.139 --> 00:06:24.399 close air support and counter -insurgency, carrying 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.300 warheads that defeat armor, vehicles, and fortified 00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:29.600 points. Over decades, variants rolled out, shaped 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.800 charges, blast frag, even the R9X, the kinetic 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.160 version designed to minimize collateral damage, 00:06:36.259 --> 00:06:38.800 but you know the common thread is brutal efficiency. 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.220 You put warhead on a target, target has a very 00:06:41.220 --> 00:06:43.459 bad day. Now in engagement like the one described, 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:45.699 several things happen at once. Targeting sensors 00:06:45.699 --> 00:06:48.160 track position and velocity, the missile rides 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:51.680 guidance, laser energy or radar cues to the aim 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:54.699 point. Fusing determines detonation, impact fuse 00:06:54.699 --> 00:06:57.720 when you physically hit, or proximity fuse if 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.240 you're engineered to air burst near the target. 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.439 If it's an R9X, you're expecting kinetic energy 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.949 and slicing blades. not an explosion plume still 00:07:06.949 --> 00:07:09.569 devastating and contact then there are mundane 00:07:09.569 --> 00:07:12.990 failure modes a seeker can lose lock the warhead 00:07:12.990 --> 00:07:15.389 can fail to detonate the missile can miss by 00:07:15.389 --> 00:07:18.610 a meter which at speeds is still close on video 00:07:18.610 --> 00:07:21.509 and optical illusions are real camera parallax 00:07:21.509 --> 00:07:24.009 can make two objects in the same frame appear 00:07:24.009 --> 00:07:26.410 to intersect when they're separated in depth 00:07:26.410 --> 00:07:29.509 prussian artifacts can smear edges so you infer 00:07:29.509 --> 00:07:32.500 a hit But all those mundane explanations get 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:35.100 weaker if the operators and analysts who touch 00:07:35.100 --> 00:07:37.879 this footage with access to raw sensor feeds 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:41.720 and telemetry are saying, no, this was hit. Remember, 00:07:42.060 --> 00:07:44.300 Reaper engagement is not a single shaky camera. 00:07:44.379 --> 00:07:46.560 You can have multiple sensors in play, electro 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.759 -optical, infrared, laser designators, metadata 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.779 timestamps. If the full package shows a Hellfire 00:07:52.779 --> 00:07:55.259 reaching an aim point and registering a contact, 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.480 and that object then maintains course, you're 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.120 in territory that abands new explanations. Maybe 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.220 the object isn't a spear at all, so much as an 00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:04.899 emission of bright sensor bloom, a hot signature 00:08:04.899 --> 00:08:07.100 that looks like a ball. Maybe the missile impacted 00:08:07.100 --> 00:08:10.040 something adjacent, a decoy, a wake effect, so 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.569 the target you see is in a target the missile 00:08:12.569 --> 00:08:15.870 actually hit. These are real possibilities and 00:08:15.870 --> 00:08:18.310 definitely should be tested first. But if you 00:08:18.310 --> 00:08:21.490 burned through those, the data still say contact 00:08:21.490 --> 00:08:23.430 without consequence. Then you're in the realm 00:08:23.430 --> 00:08:26.209 of material science or field effects we don't 00:08:26.209 --> 00:08:28.639 publicly own. Think about the plasm sheets. that 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.959 could disperse blast energy or metamaterials 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.399 engineered to channel shockwaves around a form 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.700 or active countermeasures that detonate a fuse 00:08:36.700 --> 00:08:39.879 prematurely out of phase. You know, those ideals, 00:08:40.340 --> 00:08:42.860 sci -fi, until you remember how much classified 00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:46.149 R &D never sees daylight. The question is really 00:08:46.149 --> 00:08:48.009 simple at that point. Who has it? Because if 00:08:48.009 --> 00:08:50.590 a nation state has it, we just watched a deterrence 00:08:50.590 --> 00:08:53.610 problem in 1080p. And if no nation state has 00:08:53.610 --> 00:08:56.070 it, we're not in a normal arms race story. That's 00:08:56.070 --> 00:08:58.330 why this footage matters. It's not a lights in 00:08:58.330 --> 00:09:01.269 the sky anecdote. It's kinetics. A weapon met 00:09:01.269 --> 00:09:04.490 an object and that weapon lost. Mr. Knapp, do 00:09:04.490 --> 00:09:06.549 you have any, have you heard about... events 00:09:06.549 --> 00:09:08.649 like this occurring, and what information might 00:09:08.649 --> 00:09:11.129 you have? I have heard about this event. Jeremy 00:09:11.129 --> 00:09:13.370 Corbell and I talked about it in one of our episodes 00:09:13.370 --> 00:09:15.370 a while back. We did not have the video, though. 00:09:15.470 --> 00:09:18.429 There are servers where there's a whole bank 00:09:18.429 --> 00:09:20.710 of these kind of videos that Congress has not 00:09:20.710 --> 00:09:22.409 been allowed to see, that the public hasn't been 00:09:22.409 --> 00:09:24.190 allowed to see. Occasionally some of that stuff 00:09:24.190 --> 00:09:26.610 gets out in the wild and it comes our way. It 00:09:26.610 --> 00:09:28.169 should be going to you. The public should be 00:09:28.169 --> 00:09:29.690 seeing this stuff. And why you're not allowed 00:09:29.690 --> 00:09:31.750 to, I don't know. But that's a Hellfire missile 00:09:31.750 --> 00:09:34.169 smacking into that UFO and just bounced right 00:09:34.169 --> 00:09:36.419 off. And it kept going. It kept going and it 00:09:36.419 --> 00:09:38.820 looks like the debris was taken with it. It kept 00:09:38.820 --> 00:09:41.179 going. If you've ever done battle damage assessment, 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:43.940 you know how alien that sentence sounds. And 00:09:43.940 --> 00:09:47.299 if a strike, analysts look for signatures, fragmentation, 00:09:47.779 --> 00:09:50.360 heat, shock, plume, secondary explosions, and 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.210 velocity vector. If a target is still there after 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:56.149 impact, it's unusually not unchanged. Its path 00:09:56.149 --> 00:09:58.929 jitters. Its shapes distort. Its thermal profile 00:09:58.929 --> 00:10:01.549 spikes. The description we just heard says the 00:10:01.549 --> 00:10:04.309 opposite. The orb maintained course in what looked 00:10:04.309 --> 00:10:06.710 like debris struck with it. Let's be rigorous 00:10:06.710 --> 00:10:09.169 and list the counter reads. First, near miss. 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:12.090 The missile passed close, detonated, and the 00:10:12.090 --> 00:10:14.649 camera angle fooled the eye. Second, fuse failure. 00:10:14.850 --> 00:10:18.259 A dud. Third, wrong model. If it were a R9X, 00:10:18.340 --> 00:10:20.919 kinetic with slicing effect, you would expect 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.360 a big blast, though you'd still expect some kinetic 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.440 consequence on contact. And fourth, post -production 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.580 artifacts. But in a congressional setting, that 00:10:28.580 --> 00:10:31.259 would be a scandal by itself. Now stack the pattern 00:10:31.259 --> 00:10:33.919 claims. People saying there are servers full 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:36.919 of similar videos. Cases trapped behind classification. 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:39.340 Lawmakers themselves barred from seeing the raw 00:10:39.340 --> 00:10:42.179 feeds. If that's hyperbole, fix it with transparency. 00:10:42.460 --> 00:10:45.080 Declassify one full sensor to strike assessment 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.279 package, even with sensitive bits blurred and 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.360 let independent experts review it. If it's not 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.899 hyperbole, then the context shifts. One anomalous 00:10:52.899 --> 00:10:56.840 video is curiosity. Dozens or banks of them is 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.480 a capability. Here's a frame I use to stay sane. 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:01.779 Treat this like a lab result. You can't replicate 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:03.860 it yet. You don't declare new physics on day 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:06.320 one. You document, you isolate variables, you 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.740 invite replication, and you try to break your 00:11:08.740 --> 00:11:10.940 own conclusions. But you also don't shove the 00:11:10.940 --> 00:11:13.320 microscope in a closet because the slide made 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:15.620 you a little bit uncomfortable. If this is a 00:11:15.620 --> 00:11:17.779 strike event with no effect outcome, that's not 00:11:17.779 --> 00:11:20.379 a UFO campfire story. That's a military problem 00:11:20.379 --> 00:11:23.720 statement. One more angle. If an object is contested, 00:11:23.820 --> 00:11:26.100 airspace can nullify our strike. What was it 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:28.440 doing there? Cognizance? Signaling? Testing our 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.320 response? If it's human tech, it's a dominant 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.200 display. If it's not human tech, then the display 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:36.480 is the point. You can't hurt me. Either way, 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.700 it resets assumptions about imposing the rules 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:42.120 of the air. All roads ultimately lead to the 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.559 same place. You can't leave this as a one -off 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:47.659 viral clip. Either show it as a mirage with data 00:11:47.659 --> 00:11:50.649 or treat it as if it's real. and adapt doctrine 00:11:50.649 --> 00:11:53.110 accordingly. What the hearing did by rolling 00:11:53.110 --> 00:11:56.330 the video was force that choice into public view. 00:11:56.429 --> 00:11:58.710 And then the conversation took a sharp turn from 00:11:58.710 --> 00:12:01.590 objects at a distance to objects up close. Hatsky 00:12:01.590 --> 00:12:04.639 came to you. With government possession of NHI 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:06.860 craft and how they ultimately gained entry. Can 00:12:06.860 --> 00:12:09.639 you testify to the veracity of that claim? Dr. 00:12:09.779 --> 00:12:12.100 Lukatsky is an honorable man who served most 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:15.059 of his career with the DIA, a very trusted high 00:12:15.059 --> 00:12:17.720 level rocket scientist and intelligence analyst 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.860 who inspired the OSAP program. As I said earlier, 00:12:21.179 --> 00:12:23.379 in full disclosure, I've co -written two books 00:12:23.379 --> 00:12:26.539 with him. He drops on myself and our other co 00:12:26.539 --> 00:12:28.960 -author out of the blue and it took 14 months 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.259 for us to get dops or approval for him to release 00:12:32.259 --> 00:12:35.000 two sentences on that. He said this craft we 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.840 had managed to get inside of it. It had no wings, 00:12:37.980 --> 00:12:41.019 no rotor, no tail. It had no fuel tanks. They 00:12:41.019 --> 00:12:43.250 didn't know how it flew. or how it was operated. 00:12:43.590 --> 00:12:46.169 It clearly looked like it was aerodynamic. He 00:12:46.169 --> 00:12:49.070 would not go further. He's a by -the -book guy. 00:12:49.210 --> 00:12:51.149 And until he gets clearance to say more about 00:12:51.149 --> 00:12:52.870 that, I don't think we're going to hear much 00:12:52.870 --> 00:12:55.789 more. But it's not ours. It wasn't ours. We didn't 00:12:55.789 --> 00:12:57.830 make it. We didn't know who made it and how it 00:12:57.830 --> 00:12:59.970 was built and how it operated. We've got at least 00:12:59.970 --> 00:13:01.889 one. And I don't know. I think that's enough 00:13:01.889 --> 00:13:05.440 confirmation that we do have. And Leslie, Mr. 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:08.200 Borland, in the classified realm, have you been 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.879 exposed to undeniable confirmation of NHI technology? 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.620 And then my second question is base systems involved 00:13:14.620 --> 00:13:17.480 in any way with reverse engineering exploitation 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.080 of non -human intelligence craft? Yeah, we're 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.559 going to have to have a conversation to skip 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.779 for that, whether I'm legally even allowed to 00:13:24.779 --> 00:13:26.879 answer that and whether you're even allowed to 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.000 hear it, sir. The testimony moves that discussion 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.929 from what do we see? to what do we touch? The 00:13:31.929 --> 00:13:35.960 name you heard Dr. James Liktaski. is associated 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.480 with a defense intelligence program that, according 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.480 to open reporting, examine unconventional airspace 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.019 signatures and related phenomena. In accounts 00:13:44.019 --> 00:13:47.039 cleared for publications, he's cautious, measured 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.460 wording, minimal data, and yet the two sentences 00:13:49.460 --> 00:13:51.799 attributed to him land like a hammer. We get 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.820 inside a craft. No conventional controls, no 00:13:54.820 --> 00:13:57.220 fuel tanks. It flew and it wasn't ours. Let's 00:13:57.220 --> 00:13:59.340 parse that for a second. No wings, no rotors, 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:01.820 no tails. Rolls out the alphabet soup of drones 00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:04.580 and airframes in common inventories. No fuel 00:14:04.580 --> 00:14:06.639 tanks implies either a power source we don't 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.340 recognize or a structure where fuel isn't stored 00:14:09.340 --> 00:14:12.440 in a way we would call a tank. If it flies and 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:14.840 it isn't ours, we're left with two options. Someone 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.460 else on earth has silently sprinted past us or 00:14:17.460 --> 00:14:20.200 the origin is non -human. Both are extraordinary. 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.840 Both require extraordinary evidence. And that's 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:25.460 where classification walls rise. We're told there's 00:14:25.460 --> 00:14:27.759 more to say, but not here. There are legitimate 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.399 reasons for closed sessions, protecting identities, 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.100 sources, sensor specs. There's a difference between 00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:35.269 protecting how we know something and whether 00:14:35.269 --> 00:14:37.690 we know it. If a craft exists in government custody, 00:14:37.929 --> 00:14:40.090 the public doesn't need the blueprints to be 00:14:40.090 --> 00:14:41.809 told the fact of the possession. Conversely, 00:14:41.889 --> 00:14:44.440 if no such craft exists, say so plainly. and 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.139 provide mechanisms for independent verification 00:14:47.139 --> 00:14:49.500 that doesn't boil down to trust us. What would 00:14:49.500 --> 00:14:51.759 proof even look like in a domain soaked with 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.179 disinformation? Chain of customary documentation 00:14:54.179 --> 00:14:57.980 spanning decades, materials analyzing show isotopic 00:14:57.980 --> 00:15:01.220 ratios or lattice structures not achievable within 00:15:01.220 --> 00:15:03.500 our known industrial complex, high -resolution 00:15:03.500 --> 00:15:06.159 imagery tied to timestamp telemetry, multiple 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.620 cleared witnesses willing to testify under penalty 00:15:08.620 --> 00:15:11.360 of perjury. If a program is truly operating as 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.269 a wave sap so classified that even normal oversight 00:15:14.269 --> 00:15:16.090 can't see it, that's a constitutional problem, 00:15:16.149 --> 00:15:19.269 not just curiosity. Lawmakers will have to decide 00:15:19.269 --> 00:15:22.049 whether they accept we can brief you as an answer 00:15:22.049 --> 00:15:24.409 to a question of this magnitude. Now let's bring 00:15:24.409 --> 00:15:26.710 it back to the orb and the hellfire. If you can 00:15:26.710 --> 00:15:28.590 walk inside an object that flies without fuel 00:15:28.590 --> 00:15:30.970 tanks, and then you watch a strike that doesn't 00:15:30.970 --> 00:15:33.309 produce expected damage, those aren't separate 00:15:33.309 --> 00:15:36.190 stories, they rhyme. And the rhyme is your assumptions 00:15:36.190 --> 00:15:39.350 about flight, energy, and control are incomplete. 00:15:39.490 --> 00:15:41.710 So where does that leave us? with a responsibility 00:15:41.710 --> 00:15:44.649 to talk like grownups, to omit uncertainty without 00:15:44.649 --> 00:15:47.850 hiding behind it, to list alternative explanations 00:15:47.850 --> 00:15:50.649 without using them as a shield, and to demand 00:15:50.649 --> 00:15:53.710 that the people who have the unblurred data step 00:15:53.710 --> 00:15:56.350 forward long enough to show the nation what it 00:15:56.350 --> 00:15:58.789 actually owns or what it's actually facing. A 00:15:58.789 --> 00:16:01.600 Hellfire missile. meets a glowing orb, and does 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:03.899 nothing we can measure. In the same room, witnesses 00:16:03.899 --> 00:16:07.500 hint at craft with no wings, no tanks, no familiar 00:16:07.500 --> 00:16:10.080 physics, and not ours. Maybe the video fools 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.639 the eye. Maybe a rival has climbed a ladder we 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.279 don't talk about. Or maybe this is exactly what 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.860 it looks like. The public's first sanctioned 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:20.159 glimpses of a reality we've been trained not 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.679 to see. If it's a miss or failure, publish the 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.799 analysis. If it's adversary tech, brief the nation 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.700 honestly. If it's something else, in the limbo 00:16:28.700 --> 00:16:31.279 and treat treat citizens like partners in truth, 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.759 not spectators in a managed reveal. This is Zero 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.679 Signal, conspiracy shorts. New shorts drop often. 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.379 Our deep dive long form episodes land Tuesday 00:16:40.379 --> 00:16:43.740 at 6 a .m. I'm David Green. Subscribe, share 00:16:43.740 --> 00:16:46.940 this with someone who still thinks UFO just means 00:16:46.940 --> 00:16:49.559 lights in the sky. Until next time, question 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:49.940 everything.