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Today's 00:01:32.250 --> 00:01:34.629 story is one of the most famous military conspiracies 00:01:34.629 --> 00:01:37.150 of the 20th century. A tale of invisibility, 00:01:37.390 --> 00:01:39.629 teleportation, and sailors fused into the steel 00:01:39.629 --> 00:01:41.390 of their own ship. This is the legend of the 00:01:41.390 --> 00:01:43.430 Philadelphia Experiment. Dave, what do you make 00:01:43.430 --> 00:01:46.030 of this legend? This is a really exciting story. 00:01:46.189 --> 00:01:48.689 This strange saga of the Philadelphia Experiment 00:01:48.689 --> 00:01:51.870 began in the summer of 1943 with the USS Eldridge, 00:01:51.989 --> 00:01:54.370 which was fresh out of the shipyard. So the legend 00:01:54.370 --> 00:01:57.209 goes, the Navy had outfitted her with these massive 00:01:57.209 --> 00:02:00.090 generators, coils as thick as le - electrical 00:02:00.090 --> 00:02:02.450 cabling, an exotic equipment said to be based 00:02:02.450 --> 00:02:05.250 on Einstein's field theory. The idea was simple 00:02:05.250 --> 00:02:07.430 in concept, but staggering in scope. Merging 00:02:07.430 --> 00:02:10.229 these electromagnetic field with gravity into 00:02:10.229 --> 00:02:12.270 a single force, it was said that the Navy could 00:02:12.270 --> 00:02:15.229 create this powerful field that bent light around 00:02:15.229 --> 00:02:17.889 the ship, rending it invisible to both the naked 00:02:17.889 --> 00:02:20.430 eye and radar. The first runs of this test, at 00:02:20.430 --> 00:02:22.250 least according to the sailors accounts, were 00:02:22.250 --> 00:02:24.129 very unsettling. When the equipment fired up, 00:02:24.250 --> 00:02:26.930 the ship would shimmer wrapped in this haze of 00:02:26.930 --> 00:02:29.919 green light and rose like mist. rose from the 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.180 waterline that the ship was set in. Men stationed 00:02:32.180 --> 00:02:34.099 on the deck complained of nausea, dizziness, 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.250 pounding headaches. Some said they felt as if 00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:39.870 the air itself vibrated around them, thick with 00:02:39.870 --> 00:02:42.449 this like static and buzzing with invisible energy. 00:02:42.689 --> 00:02:45.030 These earlier tests convinced commanders that 00:02:45.030 --> 00:02:46.990 the project was on the edge of something really 00:02:46.990 --> 00:02:48.949 extraordinary. Then came the date etched into 00:02:48.949 --> 00:02:51.889 legend, October 28th, 1943. This was the day 00:02:51.889 --> 00:02:54.330 of the big test, the moment when the Navy would 00:02:54.330 --> 00:02:56.870 push the experiment button and push it to its 00:02:56.870 --> 00:02:59.289 limits. As the generators reached a full power, 00:02:59.530 --> 00:03:02.069 this huge hum built in this thunderous roar, 00:03:02.289 --> 00:03:04.449 witnesses described bolts of lightning arcing 00:03:04.449 --> 00:03:07.129 around the ship like St. Elmo. And then before 00:03:07.129 --> 00:03:09.289 their eyes, the Eldridge vanished. Not just from 00:03:09.289 --> 00:03:11.330 Philadelphia, mind you. Not just from radar, 00:03:11.490 --> 00:03:14.110 but from existence itself. At that same moment, 00:03:14.129 --> 00:03:15.870 hundreds of miles away in North Fork, Virginia, 00:03:16.150 --> 00:03:19.409 dock workers and sailors swore they saw the Eldridge 00:03:19.409 --> 00:03:21.830 suddenly appear in their harbor, surrounded by 00:03:21.830 --> 00:03:24.490 this kind of eerie glow. Some claimed it lingered 00:03:24.490 --> 00:03:26.629 for several minutes before vanishing again, leaving 00:03:26.629 --> 00:03:29.229 on the churn of displaced water. Moments later, 00:03:29.449 --> 00:03:31.550 it reappeared back in Philadelphia, as if it 00:03:31.550 --> 00:03:33.849 had blinked across the map and snapped back into 00:03:33.849 --> 00:03:36.020 place. But what more importantly, that it strikes 00:03:36.020 --> 00:03:38.539 with me Jay is it sounds like a horror film you 00:03:38.539 --> 00:03:41.340 have this ship that has these huge devices on 00:03:41.340 --> 00:03:44.159 it you have this eerie glow of fog that's surrounding 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.599 it sounds very mythical and I find it rather 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.840 strange and I would love to deep dive into the 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.319 man that's telling these stories because something 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:53.900 seems a little bit off to me yeah I just kind 00:03:53.900 --> 00:03:55.560 of want to paint a little bit of the backdrop 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.979 for what was going on at that time so it was 00:03:57.979 --> 00:04:00.800 the height of World War two and the premise behind 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.259 this experiment was in order to protect ships 00:04:03.259 --> 00:04:05.199 crossing the Atlantic They were having a heck 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.159 of a time with the U -boats sinking their ships 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.199 as they crossed. So they wanted to find a way 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:13.939 in order to either cloak their ships or hide 00:04:13.939 --> 00:04:16.879 their ships from, in particular, these sea mines, 00:04:17.060 --> 00:04:19.860 which were magnetic. So if you got close enough 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:22.379 to one of them, the mine would eventually be 00:04:22.379 --> 00:04:25.000 magnetized and find its way to your ship. The 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:26.199 next thing you know, you're blown up and you're 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.180 sinking. And there were magnetic torpedoes that 00:04:28.180 --> 00:04:31.300 the Germans used. So they're suffering catastrophic 00:04:31.300 --> 00:04:34.100 losses of their boats trying to cross over to 00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:36.800 Europe and to Great Britain. And that was the 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.939 main reason that they were trying to find ways 00:04:38.939 --> 00:04:41.540 in order to protect their ships. It came with 00:04:41.540 --> 00:04:44.279 the purpose and look at the story and we'll come 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.819 to our conclusions as we deep dive. But like 00:04:46.819 --> 00:04:49.779 you said, man, it's an interesting story and 00:04:49.779 --> 00:04:52.300 I find it fascinating. I think they made a movie 00:04:52.300 --> 00:04:55.910 of it back in 1984. And it's been in pop culture 00:04:55.910 --> 00:04:58.589 and conspiracy circles for decades and decades. 00:04:58.709 --> 00:05:01.149 So this is definitely an oldie, but goodie. Yeah, 00:05:01.149 --> 00:05:03.370 absolutely. And the kind of text of that picture 00:05:03.370 --> 00:05:06.009 during World War II really in my mind sets the 00:05:06.009 --> 00:05:09.089 stage because we see a lot of these strange inventions 00:05:09.089 --> 00:05:10.829 that occur in much like the heart attack gun, 00:05:10.850 --> 00:05:12.769 which we've talked about on other episodes. It 00:05:12.769 --> 00:05:15.110 kind of reminds me that World War II wasn't just 00:05:15.110 --> 00:05:17.430 fault with tanks and bombers. It was fought within 00:05:17.430 --> 00:05:19.870 the laboratories, chalkboards, and these locked 00:05:19.870 --> 00:05:22.810 doors across the U S and Europe. Scientists really 00:05:22.810 --> 00:05:25.689 sworn to. secrecy and told the chase ideals that 00:05:25.689 --> 00:05:27.709 sounded much like science fiction, because even 00:05:27.709 --> 00:05:30.350 if one of them worked, it might tilt the war 00:05:30.350 --> 00:05:32.589 in our favor. The public would later learn names 00:05:32.589 --> 00:05:34.569 like the Manhattan project where the desert sands 00:05:34.569 --> 00:05:37.870 of New Mexico glowed with test blasts and physics 00:05:37.870 --> 00:05:40.110 turned into fire. But that wasn't the only really 00:05:40.110 --> 00:05:41.930 experiment hidden in plain sight during this 00:05:41.930 --> 00:05:43.949 time. Radar labs hummed through the night and 00:05:43.949 --> 00:05:46.110 really inventing the art of seeing what the eye 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:48.889 couldn't see. We saw engineers tested decoys 00:05:48.889 --> 00:05:51.209 and deceptions and inflatable tanks designed 00:05:51.209 --> 00:05:54.399 to fool these recon. planes and radar ghost echoes. 00:05:54.660 --> 00:05:56.339 And they were trying to trick enemy operators. 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.300 So you had the submarine killing sonar, the radar 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:01.060 jamming, the false signatures. And then there 00:06:01.060 --> 00:06:02.920 was even these like stranger efforts that I read 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:04.879 about online. I heard that the British toyed 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:07.300 with something called the Project Habaku. Not 00:06:07.300 --> 00:06:09.300 sure if you've heard of that one. It was a plan 00:06:09.300 --> 00:06:12.100 to build an aircraft carrier out of ice mixed 00:06:12.100 --> 00:06:14.199 with wood pulp. Nicknamed, I think it was called 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:17.079 pirate. And in Germany, yeah. And in Germany, 00:06:17.259 --> 00:06:19.560 scientists worked on de Glock, which is a bell, 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:21.800 a device described in post -war accounts as a 00:06:21.740 --> 00:06:24.800 gravity or time machine, glowing and deadly hidden 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.079 in the mountain facility. Even the US had flirtations 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.519 with unusual technology, Project Pigeon, which 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.439 I read about where they train birds, which were 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:34.639 meant to guide missiles and acoustic weapons. 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.139 And they focused around sound and disorienting 00:06:37.139 --> 00:06:38.899 the enemy. Obviously not all of these things 00:06:38.899 --> 00:06:40.759 work. Many were dead ends and abandoned when 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:44.060 the war's pace outrun their promise. But the 00:06:44.060 --> 00:06:46.540 key is the atmosphere and the secrecy was everywhere 00:06:46.540 --> 00:06:48.620 during World War II. And these scientists were 00:06:48.620 --> 00:06:51.839 told to push the boundaries, imagine in the weapons 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:54.620 and think about the unthinkable. And these soldiers 00:06:54.620 --> 00:06:57.199 and dock workers and civilians lived alongside 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.500 the curtain without ever being allowed to peek 00:06:59.500 --> 00:07:02.279 behind it. It's hard to imagine dockside rumors 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.540 catching flame. A shipwired Frankenstein's monster 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:08.300 humming with this strange generators that bent 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:10.560 more light. Officers who said nothing because 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.480 silence was part of the uniform. A test that 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.600 went too far and a result far too dangerous to 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.040 really explain. That kind of sets the mood. There's 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.040 so many extraordinary things that came out of 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.569 World War II. War II just to, like I said, tilt 00:07:22.569 --> 00:07:24.470 the war in the American favor. Yeah. So let's 00:07:24.470 --> 00:07:25.949 just talk about some of the court claims. You 00:07:25.949 --> 00:07:28.029 may have touched on them a bit, but essentially 00:07:28.029 --> 00:07:30.430 it was a secret Navy experiment, often called 00:07:30.430 --> 00:07:33.230 Project Rainbow. And this occurred in 1943 in 00:07:33.230 --> 00:07:35.930 the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. The ship that 00:07:35.930 --> 00:07:38.970 was claimed to disappear was called the USS Eldridge, 00:07:39.009 --> 00:07:41.589 which you did touch on. And the intention was 00:07:41.589 --> 00:07:44.329 to make it invisible to radar and or visible 00:07:44.329 --> 00:07:47.449 light. So one of the interesting caveats of the 00:07:47.449 --> 00:07:49.850 story is that the ship teleported to Norfolk, 00:07:49.870 --> 00:07:51.990 Virginia through space and time. And when I say 00:07:51.990 --> 00:07:54.230 space and time, obviously it's going from the 00:07:54.230 --> 00:07:56.529 Philadelphia Naval Shipyard to Norfolk, Virginia. 00:07:56.930 --> 00:08:00.389 But witnesses claim, at least anecdotally, that 00:08:00.389 --> 00:08:03.470 the ship appeared 10 minutes before it actually 00:08:03.470 --> 00:08:05.970 disappeared in the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, 00:08:06.029 --> 00:08:08.230 which is mind blowing. And it suggests that there 00:08:08.230 --> 00:08:11.370 was some time travel aspect to it. So crew members 00:08:11.370 --> 00:08:14.250 suffered severe side effects, nausea, madness, 00:08:14.509 --> 00:08:16.750 disorientation. Some were fused into the ship's 00:08:16.750 --> 00:08:18.709 metal hall and they had to be cut out or they 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.339 just died on the spot, which sounds horrific. 00:08:21.860 --> 00:08:24.139 And like you said, it sounds like a horror slash 00:08:24.139 --> 00:08:27.079 sci -fi novel. Obviously the Navy covered it 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:29.819 up according to direct witnesses and they silenced 00:08:29.819 --> 00:08:31.500 people who knew it too much. There's also an 00:08:31.500 --> 00:08:34.990 interesting claim from a guy named Bela. that 00:08:34.990 --> 00:08:38.870 claimed he was transported into the future and 00:08:38.870 --> 00:08:42.230 he ended up becoming a part of the Montauk project, 00:08:42.470 --> 00:08:44.549 which essentially we can do a deep dive on that 00:08:44.549 --> 00:08:46.889 some other episode, but the Montauk project pretty 00:08:46.889 --> 00:08:48.990 much deals with mind control, secret tunnels 00:08:48.990 --> 00:08:51.509 underneath Long Island. That conspiracy is super 00:08:51.509 --> 00:08:54.529 nuts. So the show Stranger Thing is actually 00:08:54.529 --> 00:08:57.210 based off the Montauk project. We can go into 00:08:57.210 --> 00:08:59.970 that in another episode, but again, this is conspiracies 00:08:59.970 --> 00:09:01.809 popping back in the pop culture. Yeah, that's 00:09:01.809 --> 00:09:04.809 a good point. The Montauk project. As you said, 00:09:04.830 --> 00:09:07.350 it was based on stranger things, but there is 00:09:07.350 --> 00:09:09.409 a common thread there, teleportation. In both 00:09:09.409 --> 00:09:11.250 projects, they're speaking to teleporting from 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:13.230 one place to another. I don't know if there's 00:09:13.230 --> 00:09:15.649 like a size variant versus people versus these 00:09:15.649 --> 00:09:18.649 massive ships, but it may be a good time to talk 00:09:18.649 --> 00:09:20.690 about what this ship is. At the center of the 00:09:20.690 --> 00:09:22.970 Philadelphia experiment sits a very real haul. 00:09:23.250 --> 00:09:27.570 The USS Eldridge is called DE -173 was his haul 00:09:27.570 --> 00:09:30.649 numbers. She was a cannon class destroyer escort. 00:09:30.870 --> 00:09:33.279 One of really the workhorse ships that were built 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.799 in American yards during the World War II. These 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.840 ships were designed with one mission in mind, 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.659 to guard the lifelines of war, the merchant convoys 00:09:40.659 --> 00:09:43.100 crossing the Atlantic Ocean, prowled by the German 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:47.179 U -boats. The Eldridge measured 360 feet from 00:09:47.179 --> 00:09:51.200 bow to stern. It displaced 1 ,240 tons and carried 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.559 a crew of just over 200 sailors and officers. 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.299 She could steam at 21 knots, armed with depth 00:09:56.299 --> 00:09:59.539 charges, torpedo tubes, 3 -inch guns, and anti 00:09:59.539 --> 00:10:02.039 -aircraft barriers. Not glamorous, but absolutely 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.159 vital. These ships were built quickly in number 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.639 to plug the holes in the convoy that fed Britain, 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.360 supplied North Africa, and prepared for D -Day. 00:10:09.539 --> 00:10:14.179 Eldridge was launched on July 25, 1943 at the 00:10:14.179 --> 00:10:16.620 Federal Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company in 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:18.279 Newark, then it was later commissioned by the 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.980 U .S. Navy in August of 27. By December of that 00:10:20.980 --> 00:10:23.179 year, she was already in action, escorting a 00:10:23.179 --> 00:10:25.840 convoy to Casablanca. From there, she rotated 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.399 through the lifelines of the war to Gibraltar, 00:10:28.580 --> 00:10:30.899 to the Azores, to the Basaltine, to Oran, and 00:10:30.899 --> 00:10:33.379 to Palomar. She protected merchant ships from 00:10:33.379 --> 00:10:35.960 wolf packs of U -boats, hunted submarines in 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:37.759 the choke points of the Mediterranean, and carried 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.340 out these escort runs as part of the math - build 00:10:40.340 --> 00:10:42.559 up towards the invasion of southern France right 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.179 around 1944. By the end of the war to Eldridge 00:10:45.179 --> 00:10:48.019 had completed nine Atlantic crossings and countless 00:10:48.019 --> 00:10:50.500 escort duties in the Mediterranean. Her record 00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:53.080 was solid but during those times unremarkable. 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.480 Exactly the kind of routine duty that kept a 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:58.120 war machine running but really never made headlines. 00:10:58.299 --> 00:11:00.259 After victory Eldridge crossed not one ocean 00:11:00.259 --> 00:11:02.759 but a stack of paperwork. In 1951 as part of 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.139 the mutual defense assistance program she was 00:11:05.139 --> 00:11:06.980 transferred to the Greek Navy. There she took 00:11:06.980 --> 00:11:10.190 on a new name H .S. Leon with hold number of 00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:13.690 D -54. For Greece, she remained a reliable escort 00:11:13.690 --> 00:11:15.769 and a patrol vehicle throughout the tense years 00:11:15.769 --> 00:11:18.470 of the Cold War. She served until the 1990s, 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:20.769 long after most of the American sisters had been 00:11:20.769 --> 00:11:22.649 scrapped, and finally was ultimately retired 00:11:22.649 --> 00:11:24.730 and dismantled at the end of the decade. And 00:11:24.730 --> 00:11:26.529 I think that's the hook. Nothing in her resume 00:11:26.529 --> 00:11:29.610 screams time machine. On paper, she dates tonnage, 00:11:29.730 --> 00:11:31.929 armaments, and ports of call. But in whispers, 00:11:32.169 --> 00:11:34.090 she has something else. The Eldridge is the perfect 00:11:34.090 --> 00:11:36.509 canvas for a legend. Ordinary steel painted with 00:11:36.509 --> 00:11:39.490 extraordinary rumors. Stage -roll Reality might 00:11:39.490 --> 00:11:42.210 have torn for a moment. The snap bag is if nothing 00:11:42.210 --> 00:11:44.610 happened. And to me, steel kind of remembers 00:11:44.610 --> 00:11:47.169 only dense and rust. The stories remember in 00:11:47.169 --> 00:11:49.210 stranger ways and that like hum underfoot and 00:11:49.210 --> 00:11:51.750 that sticky kind of green fog rising from the 00:11:51.750 --> 00:11:54.190 water run. That feeling in there itself was about 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:56.590 to crack. And I wonder like a ship that's going 00:11:56.590 --> 00:12:00.070 to like, transport from Philadelphia to North 00:12:00.070 --> 00:12:01.669 Fork. And I don't know how many nautical miles 00:12:01.669 --> 00:12:04.470 that is, but it seems like a fairly great distance. 00:12:04.629 --> 00:12:07.090 When it does that, would it be damaged and like 00:12:07.090 --> 00:12:09.759 maybe perhaps beyond repair, the sellers themselves 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:12.360 are obviously dying from this experimentation. 00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:14.799 Wouldn't it also ruin the ship, like when it's 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.120 being teleported? Yeah, that's interesting. Where 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.279 my brain goes with that is it seems like it's 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.940 affecting organic matter more so than it is affecting 00:12:21.940 --> 00:12:24.019 like elemental matter. So it's an interesting 00:12:24.019 --> 00:12:26.539 concept that it could teleport. I think Norfolk's 00:12:26.539 --> 00:12:28.860 only 250 miles from the Philly shipyard. It's 00:12:28.860 --> 00:12:31.580 a far distance to teleport anything, but it's 00:12:31.580 --> 00:12:33.860 not like it's across the world. But it is interesting 00:12:33.860 --> 00:12:36.559 to see that organic humans are the ones that 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.460 seem to. been the most affected. Obviously it 00:12:39.460 --> 00:12:41.940 was still in service after this event for many 00:12:41.940 --> 00:12:44.600 years and it doesn't seem like anything was damaged 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.840 in the process. What kind of sticks out to me, 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.759 and I'd like to know what you think, what you 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.919 make of it, is the fact that the green fog always 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:55.120 sticks out. What is that? It reminds me of something 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.080 like nuclear. This was the time around the nuclear 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.740 bomb. So we know the government was working on 00:12:59.740 --> 00:13:01.600 a ton of secret projects. They did everything 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.379 they could to hide the progress they made in 00:13:04.379 --> 00:13:05.899 nuclear weapons because they didn't want the 00:13:05.899 --> 00:13:08.259 Nazis. these are Russians to get it, but it lines 00:13:08.259 --> 00:13:11.320 up with this whole Einsteinian theory of relativity, 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.059 how he was involved in the nuclear process, the 00:13:15.059 --> 00:13:17.659 whole Oppenheimer nuclear bomb making. So they're 00:13:17.659 --> 00:13:20.039 working on so much stuff. And whether or not 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:21.919 I believe this conspiracy, I don't know. I think 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:23.899 there's some truth in it somewhere. Did this 00:13:23.899 --> 00:13:25.840 event happen? I don't know. We can come to our 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:27.419 conclusions as we break down the story a bit 00:13:27.419 --> 00:13:30.460 more, but this is around the time of the, the 00:13:30.460 --> 00:13:32.799 Roswell incident as well. So all these kinds 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.500 of strange events kind of line up around the. 00:13:35.370 --> 00:13:38.679 same decade. Yeah. Almost every retelling describes 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:42.220 the USS Eldridge as being swallowed by this green 00:13:42.220 --> 00:13:46.000 kind of sickly luminous mist that kind of then 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.059 vanishes from sight. Some kind of curtain that 00:13:48.059 --> 00:13:50.179 hides it and then it disappears. But I was still, 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:51.759 like you said, I wonder where this detail come 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:55.200 from and like, why does it stick? From my research, 00:13:55.259 --> 00:13:58.179 some say the fog was a byproduct of the ship's 00:13:58.179 --> 00:14:01.480 massive generators. In this version, the electromagnetic 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.779 fields were so powerful, they ionized the surrounding 00:14:04.779 --> 00:14:07.600 air and sea water. creating this invisible glow 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:10.940 kind of plasma discharges and own zones and static 00:14:10.940 --> 00:14:13.039 could all make the air shimmer this greenish 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.559 white also sellers might have described electrical 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.460 halos like in the st. Elmo's fire phenomenon 00:14:18.460 --> 00:14:21.620 long seen by seaman during storms when the mast 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:23.779 and rigging is glowed in this kind of eerie light 00:14:23.779 --> 00:14:26.659 and others take the fog more symbolically the 00:14:26.659 --> 00:14:28.500 Philadelphia experiment isn't just about the 00:14:28.500 --> 00:14:30.519 ship it's about the crossing the boundary I think 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.139 that fog becomes like this veil between the worlds 00:14:33.139 --> 00:14:35.460 the curtain pulled back where space and time 00:14:35.460 --> 00:14:37.600 are tampered with. And then I think in folklore, 00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:40.179 this is often described in ghost stories and 00:14:40.179 --> 00:14:43.019 Celtic myths and even war legends where fog hides 00:14:43.019 --> 00:14:45.679 armies until that ultimate decisive moment. The 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.139 green fog around the Eldridge turns the Navy 00:14:48.139 --> 00:14:51.259 Yard into the stage for the impossible. In more 00:14:51.259 --> 00:14:53.500 skeptical tellings, I think the fog might have 00:14:53.500 --> 00:14:56.419 started as nothing more than atmospheric distortion 00:14:56.419 --> 00:14:59.080 or heat haze on the river and ordinary dockside 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.519 conditions that storytellers coloredly. Once 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.240 one witness or writer adds that image of the 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.299 green mist, others repeat it. It's this kind 00:15:06.299 --> 00:15:08.500 of verbal pass down, verbal lore that kind of 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:10.019 gets added on. One of the things I always think 00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:12.500 about is when I was a cop and there's 19 witnesses 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:14.679 and there's some tragic event that occurs, a 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.879 major car accident, 19 people witness it. When 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.419 I go to interview those 19 people, they all tell 00:15:19.419 --> 00:15:21.460 a different retelling of the story. But if you 00:15:21.460 --> 00:15:23.419 get them all together and they sit in a room 00:15:23.419 --> 00:15:25.500 for 10 minutes before I interview them, they 00:15:25.500 --> 00:15:27.440 all tell you the exact same story. And I wonder 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.940 if that's something that happened here. Like 00:15:28.940 --> 00:15:30.720 I saw a green mist. Oh yeah, I saw that too. 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.100 I remember that now. Because when something tragic 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:35.600 happens, say like they tried to have an experiment 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.879 on this ship and a big fire broke out and a bunch 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.200 of people died and it wasn't successful. The 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.519 survivors are going to have that group think. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:44.340 then and they're going to start to recount the 00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:46.779 facts and false memories are going to start to 00:15:46.779 --> 00:15:48.820 be implanted where they get on the same page. 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:51.299 And to me, when they recount this with the green 00:15:51.299 --> 00:15:53.759 fog and all the other stuff of the fusing with 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.860 the ship, it sounds something tragic happened. 00:15:55.899 --> 00:15:57.799 I don't know if something mythical happened where 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.139 they teleported from one place to another, but 00:16:00.139 --> 00:16:02.179 it sounds like something tragic happened. People 00:16:02.179 --> 00:16:04.320 got together to discuss what the heck did I just 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.879 see? And it came out with this Star Trek kind 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.799 of sci -fi vibe at the end. So I think this is 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.519 a good point to start to talk about where this 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.730 story. kind of came from. The thing that kind 00:16:13.730 --> 00:16:16.210 of bothers me with the story is that a lot of 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:18.850 the renditions of it didn't start to come out 00:16:18.850 --> 00:16:21.570 until the 1950s, which why was there almost a 00:16:21.570 --> 00:16:24.769 decade gap between the actual quote unquote event 00:16:24.769 --> 00:16:26.929 to the actual retelling of the stories. You're 00:16:26.929 --> 00:16:29.049 in the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. You probably 00:16:29.049 --> 00:16:32.149 have hundreds, if not thousands of sailors watching 00:16:32.149 --> 00:16:35.009 this happen. And you obviously have the 200 plus 00:16:35.009 --> 00:16:37.529 men on the ship that are manning it. Why are 00:16:37.529 --> 00:16:41.090 there not dozens, if not hundreds of eyewitness 00:16:41.090 --> 00:16:44.649 accounts. So again, we'll go back into how the 00:16:44.649 --> 00:16:47.389 story began. So the first kind of character that 00:16:47.389 --> 00:16:49.509 pops up in this is a guy named Carlos Miguel 00:16:49.509 --> 00:16:52.990 Ande. He also goes by Carl Ande. So in 1955, 00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:56.549 1956, Carlos sent letters to an author named 00:16:56.549 --> 00:16:58.750 Morris K. Jessup, claiming to be an eyewitness 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:00.529 to the experiment and have seen the eldritch 00:17:00.529 --> 00:17:02.990 vanish. One of these letters included the technical 00:17:02.990 --> 00:17:06.430 sounding commentary and alleged firsthand details. 00:17:06.630 --> 00:17:09.099 And let's go back to Morris K. Jessup, the author. 00:17:09.420 --> 00:17:11.819 He published a book called The Case for the UFO 00:17:11.819 --> 00:17:14.279 in the 1950s. It's central to the story only 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.720 because a bizarrely annotated copy of his book 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.900 somehow ended up in the Office of Naval Research 00:17:18.900 --> 00:17:21.279 with an anonymous letter writer. And so this 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.539 kind of drew the attention from the Office of 00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:27.480 Naval Research. inquiring like, why is there 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.079 an annotated copy of your book in our files? 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.559 So that kind of caused him to be questioned slash 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.619 investigated a bit. And the name of the annotated 00:17:36.619 --> 00:17:39.740 copy is called the Varo edition. And it's got 00:17:39.740 --> 00:17:42.619 bizarre notes written in the margins, supposedly 00:17:42.619 --> 00:17:45.299 from two different Navy officers. And it's circulated 00:17:45.299 --> 00:17:48.140 pretty heavily in the UFO community. So we can 00:17:48.140 --> 00:17:51.180 dig into that a bit, but a lot of these annotations 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:54.329 reference this project rainbow. So again, pointing 00:17:54.329 --> 00:17:57.650 back to I don't know how something would just 00:17:57.650 --> 00:18:00.490 automatically pop up in the records of what I 00:18:00.490 --> 00:18:02.950 would think is a pretty freaking secure facility. 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.180 Yeah, it's a good point. And to go back on Carlos 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:10.000 Alejande, it's an alias. His real name is Carl 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.880 Allen, and he just signed his letters that way 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.279 to maybe obscure his identity. And what I always 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.339 found interesting is when he wrote these letters 00:18:17.339 --> 00:18:20.220 about this event, he signed them disrespectfully 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:22.920 yours, Carlos Alejande. Which I, who writes a 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:24.440 letter like that? Like he's spitting in your 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.640 face when he writes that letter. And you touched 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.240 up on Jessup, but the other character, I think 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.819 that also plays into the story. And I think you 00:18:31.819 --> 00:18:34.230 may have mentioned him. earlier. But decades 00:18:34.230 --> 00:18:37.250 after this event occurred, Alfred Baylock, better 00:18:37.250 --> 00:18:40.390 known as Al Baylock, in 1989, he began speaking 00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:42.670 at conferences, claiming he had recovered suppressed 00:18:42.670 --> 00:18:44.769 memories of serving aboard the Eldridge during 00:18:44.769 --> 00:18:47.549 the experiment. His tales went even further than 00:18:47.549 --> 00:18:49.849 Allen's. According to Baylock, an Eldridge didn't 00:18:49.849 --> 00:18:51.990 just teleport from Philadelphia to New York, 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:54.869 it ripped a hole in time itself. He claimed he 00:18:54.869 --> 00:18:57.210 and his brother jumped off the ship and fell 00:18:57.210 --> 00:18:59.990 forward through decades, ending up in Camp Hero 00:18:59.990 --> 00:19:02.690 in Montauk, Long Island in the 1980s. There he 00:19:02.690 --> 00:19:04.849 said that he became entangled with another secret 00:19:04.849 --> 00:19:07.269 program, the Montauk Project, which allegedly 00:19:07.269 --> 00:19:09.970 experiment with time travel, mind control, and 00:19:09.970 --> 00:19:12.849 interdimensional gateways. In Baylock's version 00:19:12.849 --> 00:19:14.910 of the events tied to the Philadelphia experiment, 00:19:15.029 --> 00:19:17.630 truly this even larger web of Cold War paranoia 00:19:17.630 --> 00:19:19.789 and kind of science fiction conspiracy, ensuring 00:19:19.789 --> 00:19:22.309 the story would live on to modern age. But what 00:19:22.309 --> 00:19:24.690 we're seeing here, at least in my opinion, from 00:19:24.690 --> 00:19:27.829 a prior law enforcement perspective, is some 00:19:27.829 --> 00:19:29.670 characters you may not want to trust too much. 00:19:29.789 --> 00:19:31.740 And we'll dig into it a little bit. later why 00:19:31.740 --> 00:19:34.299 we should continue not to trust them. But Carlo 00:19:34.299 --> 00:19:37.500 Allen specifically seems suspicious. And this 00:19:37.500 --> 00:19:40.319 guy that shows up a decade later saying he recovered 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:42.440 suppressed memories seems pretty odd to me too. 00:19:42.660 --> 00:19:44.220 I kind of want to circle back real quick to the 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.240 Varo edition and what was in the margins. So 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:48.599 this is just a high level of view. Oddly enough 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.539 in the Varo edition, some of the notes criticize 00:19:51.539 --> 00:19:55.420 Jessup, the author of one of his books, and it 00:19:55.420 --> 00:19:59.680 criticized his ideas on UFOs and the people supposedly 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.079 riding them. margins said that they had superior 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.660 knowledge. So based off of what was in the margins, 00:20:04.859 --> 00:20:06.980 it looked like three different people do the 00:20:06.980 --> 00:20:09.180 handwriting. We're writing these margins that 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:11.339 kind of handing this book back and forth, whether 00:20:11.339 --> 00:20:13.359 I doubt that they were right next to each other. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.019 I almost feel like based off of how they try 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:18.119 to sell this story, somebody would read it, write 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.180 a note, hand it off a couple of days later, come 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:22.319 back, hand it off. And so the circle continues. 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.759 And this is when it gets a little bit fantastical. 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.759 And I start to wonder if somebody's trying to 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.980 pull the wool over someone's eyes. So, the writers 00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:34.980 described L -Ms, so that essentially means large 00:20:34.980 --> 00:20:38.299 men, and S -Ms, essentially meaning small men. 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.119 And these were apparently rival alien races with 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.240 different agendas. It claimed to have ancient 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.700 knowledge. The notes suggest ancient civilizations 00:20:45.700 --> 00:20:48.059 like Atlantis had advanced technology similar 00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:51.440 to UFO propulsion and the supposed unified field 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.559 physics. They had it all figured out. And it 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.880 linked it directly back to Project Rainbow and 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.539 connected it with experiments in electromagnetism. 00:20:58.730 --> 00:21:00.990 visibility into teleportation, which are all 00:21:00.990 --> 00:21:03.349 things that are claimed in the Philadelphia experiment. 00:21:03.450 --> 00:21:06.890 It also described space travel physics of all 00:21:06.890 --> 00:21:09.609 things. Wow. This guy's a super genius. They 00:21:09.609 --> 00:21:11.789 went into speculative details about how spacecraft 00:21:11.789 --> 00:21:15.009 operate using magneto hydrodynamics and field 00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:17.970 manipulation. And it also hints at human experiments. 00:21:18.170 --> 00:21:20.529 So in the margins, it applied that humans had 00:21:20.529 --> 00:21:23.470 tested dangerous field effects, AKA the Philadelphia 00:21:23.470 --> 00:21:25.930 experiment and suffered horrifying consequences. 00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:28.369 So that's really the high level view. what was 00:21:28.369 --> 00:21:30.289 written in the margins, which again, it's pointing 00:21:30.289 --> 00:21:33.750 back to aliens and somehow always pointing back 00:21:33.750 --> 00:21:36.730 to Atlantis. Atlantis always points back to this 00:21:36.730 --> 00:21:39.450 hidden secret ancient technology. And I just 00:21:39.450 --> 00:21:42.509 find it intriguing how all conspiracies point 00:21:42.509 --> 00:21:45.109 to the same direction. And this theory is no 00:21:45.109 --> 00:21:47.289 different. Just to recap, are they saying that 00:21:47.289 --> 00:21:49.329 they gained the knowledge from the aliens in 00:21:49.329 --> 00:21:51.630 order to do the Philadelphia experiment? Is that 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:53.799 basically what the book is pointing out? Yeah, 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.819 I think you can read between the lines that large 00:21:56.819 --> 00:21:58.720 men and small men, whatever those are. I know 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.920 people claim that Nordics are these tall race 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.220 of aliens that look very similar to us, but they're 00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:06.180 blonde haired, blue eyes pointing back to the 00:22:06.180 --> 00:22:09.359 whole Aryan thing. And I guess the small men 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:11.980 you could make, you could take the shot and claim 00:22:11.980 --> 00:22:14.480 that those are the grays, like the small, big 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:17.279 headed stereotypical aliens we see. But essentially 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:20.460 that yes, these aliens have somehow have this 00:22:20.460 --> 00:22:22.920 technology in working with our government. to 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.700 help us put it into action. It's interesting. 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:28.359 We see a lot of that. Like we talked about Antarctica, 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:31.359 we've seen it spaced out. It's this desire to 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.200 connect aliens to everything. Now there could 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:35.920 be some reality there. There could be some dependent 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:38.779 on, obviously not in World War II, but some nephephyllium 00:22:38.779 --> 00:22:40.579 action that occurred in the background. But I 00:22:40.579 --> 00:22:42.420 feel like there's a strong desire to uncover 00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:45.579 aliens versus a lot of reality behind it as well. 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.759 But when I think about this and alien technology 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.759 and can ships really disappear? Can people really 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:53.660 disappear? It makes me wonder if folks ever come 00:22:53.660 --> 00:22:55.559 close. So I did a little bit of research on that. 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.259 Einstein himself worked on the unified field 00:22:58.259 --> 00:23:00.680 theory for the last 30 years of his life, but 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.099 he never cracked it. After his death in 1955, 00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:05.319 other scientists picked up the torch. And while 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.619 no one has really solved it, there had been a 00:23:07.619 --> 00:23:09.859 few moments in history when it felt like they 00:23:09.859 --> 00:23:13.180 were getting close. In the 1960s and 70s, physicists 00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.180 developed what's called the standard model of 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:17.099 particle physics. This was a huge breakthrough. 00:23:17.259 --> 00:23:19.759 They successfully unified three of the four fundamental 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.700 forces, electromagnetic theory, the weak nuclear 00:23:22.700 --> 00:23:25.240 force, and the strong nuclear force. These are 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:27.359 forces that govern electricity, radiation, and 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.859 the binding of atomic nuclei. The standard model 00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:31.920 has been tested thousands of times, and it works 00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.160 really well. But there's one big missing piece. 00:23:34.299 --> 00:23:36.339 It does not include gravity. Einstein's dream 00:23:36.339 --> 00:23:38.920 of folding gravity into the same framework really 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:41.500 remains unresolved. Later in the 1980s, research 00:23:41.500 --> 00:23:43.859 proposed something called the Grand Unifying 00:23:43.859 --> 00:23:46.720 Theories, or the GUTs. These theories suggested 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.059 that extremely high energies, like the conditions 00:23:49.059 --> 00:23:52.480 just after the supposed Big Bang, all three non 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.849 - gravitational forces might actually merge into 00:23:54.849 --> 00:23:57.430 this single super force. The ideal soul's problem 00:23:57.430 --> 00:23:59.990 is, but again, gravity kind of refuses to play 00:23:59.990 --> 00:24:01.710 along. Then there's string theory, which became 00:24:01.710 --> 00:24:04.910 popular in the 90s and 2000s. String theory suggests 00:24:04.910 --> 00:24:07.670 that all particles and forces are actually tiny 00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:10.230 vibrating strings of energy existing in higher 00:24:10.230 --> 00:24:12.130 dimensions, more than four dimensions we know 00:24:12.130 --> 00:24:14.529 today. In principle, string theory can unify 00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:16.569 gravity with other forces, but I think here's 00:24:16.569 --> 00:24:18.329 the catch. String theory is almost impossible 00:24:18.329 --> 00:24:20.609 to test experimentally. Without evidence, it 00:24:20.609 --> 00:24:22.670 remains elegant math rather than proof of science. 00:24:22.809 --> 00:24:24.890 So I think to answer that question, right? Has 00:24:24.890 --> 00:24:27.069 anybody ever done it before? I think no one has 00:24:27.069 --> 00:24:28.910 ever really come close to building a working 00:24:28.910 --> 00:24:31.650 unified field theory that includes gravity. We 00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:33.990 made progress in preceding years after World 00:24:33.990 --> 00:24:37.210 War II, but Einstein's dream never came true. 00:24:37.309 --> 00:24:39.289 And yet the very gap between theory and proof 00:24:39.289 --> 00:24:41.630 is what gives stories like this their power. 00:24:41.710 --> 00:24:43.690 Because as long as science hasn't really closed 00:24:43.690 --> 00:24:45.470 the case, there's always room for imagination, 00:24:45.609 --> 00:24:47.690 always a chance, at least for legend to become 00:24:47.690 --> 00:24:49.769 reality, that someone else figured it out. And 00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:51.700 a lot of people, if they say they can't figure 00:24:51.700 --> 00:24:53.740 it out, and they aren't believers in God, then 00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:55.539 they turn to an alternative source like aliens. 00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:58.059 Yeah, I kind of like to lay out some of the pop 00:24:58.059 --> 00:25:00.880 culture, some of the historical stuff with this. 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.720 Looking at this story, the fact that the Philadelphia 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.500 experiment became popular in the 50s. So let's 00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:10.299 rewind back to 1938. On October 30th, 1938, there 00:25:10.299 --> 00:25:12.859 was, you remember The World of Worlds? So I'm 00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:14.500 just going to explain it to the audience. So 00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:17.339 there was a radio drama called The World of Worlds 00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:19.859 that Orson Welles directed and narrated on live 00:25:19.859 --> 00:25:22.500 radio. broadcast. If you were tuning into this 00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:24.589 I don't know, a few minutes after it started, 00:25:24.730 --> 00:25:27.950 people actually believed that aliens were invading 00:25:27.950 --> 00:25:30.670 the world. People committed suicide. People started 00:25:30.670 --> 00:25:33.809 to panic. People literally lost their minds because 00:25:33.809 --> 00:25:36.289 they were convinced that they were hearing something 00:25:36.289 --> 00:25:38.869 on the radio. It must be real because the radio 00:25:38.869 --> 00:25:41.309 was the main form of media back then. The families 00:25:41.309 --> 00:25:42.990 gathered around and listened to it at night. 00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:46.289 And so that caused a big panic. And then everyone 00:25:46.289 --> 00:25:48.170 felt like a bunch of idiots once they found out 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:50.710 it was just a radio drama. Then I want to fast 00:25:50.710 --> 00:25:53.390 forward to 1947. That's when the Roswell incident 00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:55.829 happened. That's in that decade period between 00:25:55.829 --> 00:26:00.750 1938 and 1947, you have these two pretty significant 00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:03.309 cultural events that happened in America that 00:26:03.309 --> 00:26:05.769 really put everybody's radar up with aliens. 00:26:05.890 --> 00:26:07.549 That's when people started asking questions. 00:26:07.609 --> 00:26:09.630 That's when people, and this is where I think 00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:12.029 the Huxers start to get into play, realizing 00:26:12.029 --> 00:26:14.809 that they can tell these fantastical stories 00:26:14.809 --> 00:26:17.410 and make some money off of it. So it's a little 00:26:17.410 --> 00:26:19.569 suspicious that the Philadelphia experiment kind 00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:21.839 of falls years before Roswell. and roughly a 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.299 decade after the world's broadcast. And I don't 00:26:24.299 --> 00:26:26.779 think it's any coincidence that these books and 00:26:26.779 --> 00:26:29.119 these stories started coming out in the 50s, 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.400 a few years after the whole Roswell thing happened. 00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:34.460 Yeah, it falls in line with that government cover 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:36.819 -up troop that we usually hear about. And why 00:26:36.819 --> 00:26:39.380 they say silence feels like the proof that they're 00:26:39.380 --> 00:26:41.579 trying to find. Because here's the thing about 00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:43.599 official denials. They're short. No record of 00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.619 that. No such program. Period. Meanwhile, the 00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:49.140 myth really has this texture. It has people, 00:26:49.259 --> 00:26:51.740 places, bar fights, green fog. When one side 00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:55.079 offers a sentence and the other offers a movie, 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:57.980 I think most minds want to buy a ticket. Wartime 00:26:57.980 --> 00:27:00.619 secrecy really wasn't optional. It was oxygen. 00:27:00.970 --> 00:27:03.690 projects were compartmentalized, paper trails 00:27:03.690 --> 00:27:06.950 were sparse by design. So when you ask for proof 00:27:06.950 --> 00:27:09.069 and you get a closed folder, I think your brain 00:27:09.069 --> 00:27:11.349 naturally is wired to complete the patterns, 00:27:11.509 --> 00:27:13.230 fill the gaps with the most compelling story 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.950 at hand. Every no comment becomes a brick labeled 00:27:15.950 --> 00:27:18.430 as cover up. And once that wall is tall enough 00:27:18.430 --> 00:27:21.170 and any shaft of light that sneaks through, an 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:24.549 odd memo, a reprinted book, a missing page, comments 00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:26.730 in line that shouldn't be there showing up at 00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:29.150 a government facility really feels like this 00:27:29.150 --> 00:27:32.089 window into the And that's not evidence, strictly 00:27:32.089 --> 00:27:34.289 speaking. I think it's mostly psychology because 00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:36.630 in my mind, psychology is where those legends 00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:38.849 live and people want to explain something. People 00:27:38.849 --> 00:27:41.069 don't like to say, but I don't know. I want to 00:27:41.069 --> 00:27:42.829 know. And if you can't prove it to me, why does 00:27:42.829 --> 00:27:44.809 it exist? And it must exist. And you must be 00:27:44.809 --> 00:27:47.609 hiding it from me for some reason and UFOs and 00:27:47.609 --> 00:27:49.650 Roswell that you were talking about. It's still 00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:51.650 a huge thing. People are still trying to ask 00:27:51.650 --> 00:27:53.829 Trump to release all the Roswell secrets. And 00:27:53.829 --> 00:27:55.890 it's been hidden behind this shroud of secrecy. 00:27:56.009 --> 00:27:57.970 I've seen people on YouTube videos that go out 00:27:57.970 --> 00:27:59.779 there and there's signs as if you cross the We're 00:27:59.779 --> 00:28:01.299 going to shoot you." Now it makes a lot of sense 00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:03.059 from a government facility standpoint. They don't 00:28:03.059 --> 00:28:04.420 know if there's a terrorist going to jump the 00:28:04.420 --> 00:28:06.980 fence and nuke the place or whatever, but to 00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:09.339 people, they don't think about that. They think, 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.960 oh, I should be allowed to go there. And if you're 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:13.700 keeping me out, it's not because it's protecting 00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:17.359 government stuff or facilities or people's lives. 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.319 You're keeping me out because we have a giant 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:21.460 big green alien that we don't want you to see. 00:28:21.609 --> 00:28:23.710 I want to circle back to the Project Rainbow. 00:28:23.890 --> 00:28:27.109 It's actually a declassified World War II program. 00:28:27.369 --> 00:28:30.529 So the Project Rainbow did in fact exist and 00:28:30.529 --> 00:28:33.769 it was essentially related to radar countermeasures 00:28:33.769 --> 00:28:36.630 and stealth against detection. The U .S. military 00:28:36.630 --> 00:28:39.089 used color code names extensively back in that 00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:41.690 time, like Project Rainbow, Project Bluebird, 00:28:41.890 --> 00:28:43.910 Project Paperclip. Rainbow seems to have been 00:28:43.910 --> 00:28:46.569 about reducing radar visibility, not literally 00:28:46.569 --> 00:28:49.150 invisibility. So the touch on what the project 00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:51.470 was is that they used something called e -gousing 00:28:51.470 --> 00:28:54.130 coils, and they were installed on ships to counter 00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:56.990 magnetic mines. So essentially what this was 00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.269 is running heavy electric cables around the hull 00:28:59.269 --> 00:29:01.130 of the ship, sending a current through them. 00:29:01.230 --> 00:29:03.750 And from the outside, this could produce a glowing 00:29:03.750 --> 00:29:06.670 or shimmering corona discharge, exactly the kind 00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:09.029 of thing that to the layman would look something 00:29:09.029 --> 00:29:10.930 strange is happening. So essentially what these 00:29:10.930 --> 00:29:13.329 things did was they hid the ship's electromagnetic 00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:16.390 field so that these torpedoes or these sea mines 00:29:16.390 --> 00:29:18.880 wouldn't pick up on the fact that there's a 2 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.759 ,000 ton boat made of steel coming by. So it 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.220 was in fact an actual experiment. And that's 00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:27.680 at least according to the government. And I know 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.839 the government hides plenty of stuff and they 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.500 redact plenty of documents, but that was the 00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:34.779 official narrative on what project Rainbow was. 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.619 So invisibility in a different sense. It was 00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:40.940 shrouding the ship in secrecy, but not necessarily 00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:42.559 at least what the U S government is admitting 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.980 during this teleporting the ship to a different 00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:47.039 location. But it always makes me wonder when 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.569 we start to see these. government documents, 00:29:48.690 --> 00:29:50.890 we see the speculation. What if the Navy really 00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:52.970 had cracked it? What if those generators on the 00:29:52.970 --> 00:29:55.309 Eldridge had done exactly what the legend claimed? 00:29:55.430 --> 00:29:57.690 I think I picture convoys slipping across the 00:29:57.690 --> 00:30:00.430 Atlantic during World War II, cloaked from periscope 00:30:00.430 --> 00:30:03.109 eyes. I think I imagine these U -boats would 00:30:03.109 --> 00:30:05.410 stare through periscopes at empty seas, fire 00:30:05.410 --> 00:30:07.809 torpedoes at ghosts, and watch their prey vanish 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:11.009 into nothing. And supply ships would cross unchallenged, 00:30:11.210 --> 00:30:13.509 carrying food, fuel, troops to Britain, without 00:30:13.509 --> 00:30:15.789 losing thousands of lives to these submarine 00:30:15.789 --> 00:30:18.980 wolf packs. see that. And what we see of the 00:30:18.980 --> 00:30:21.660 weapons during World War II that we did develop 00:30:21.660 --> 00:30:24.420 or technology that we did develop, we implemented 00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:27.140 it because we needed every edge possible. And 00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:28.900 we needed to stop the war. We needed to save 00:30:28.900 --> 00:30:31.200 American, British and others' lives. And we need 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.119 to put an end to it. And we needed the edge because 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.079 there could have been an alternative history 00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:37.720 that was just a few things changed and we would 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.359 all be speaking German now. So I wonder, because 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.700 they did this big thing, but then it just went 00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:44.519 into the nulls of history. Yeah, I don't know. 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.440 I think about technology back in World War II. 00:30:46.220 --> 00:30:48.140 Like it was still, I don't want to say primitive 00:30:48.140 --> 00:30:50.240 because it wasn't. We're still using prop planes. 00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:52.660 We were using dumb bombs, bombs that just, you 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:54.119 look through your little scope on your bomber 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:56.119 and pick up the target and you push a button 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.559 and the bombs just fall. So a lot of the times 00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:00.240 you might do a bombing run. That's why they needed 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.900 50 B2 bombers to bomb an area because they were 00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.160 just carpet bombing everything. Nothing was precise. 00:31:05.339 --> 00:31:08.079 For me, the biggest secrets in World War II were 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.559 the nuclear experiments and them trying to code 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.259 break the other person's transmissions. In terms 00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:16.359 of secrecy, I think it's about as advances we 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.920 got late in the war, the Germans did develop 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.319 jet fighters, which we didn't, we were completely 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.420 surprised by near the end of the war. It just 00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:26.019 was too late in the sequence events for them 00:31:26.019 --> 00:31:28.539 to have any sort of positive outcome for the 00:31:28.539 --> 00:31:30.849 Nazis. Teleportation would be the most amazing 00:31:30.849 --> 00:31:34.869 thing. I want to go to Italy. Can we just transport 00:31:34.869 --> 00:31:37.349 these 10 ,000 troops behind Nazi lines real quick? 00:31:37.589 --> 00:31:39.869 It would be great. Ultimately, the reason based 00:31:39.869 --> 00:31:43.009 upon my research and what I found, why I don't 00:31:43.009 --> 00:31:46.190 have a lot of faith in this. So let's go back 00:31:46.190 --> 00:31:49.289 and talk about Carlos a little bit. Throughout 00:31:49.289 --> 00:31:52.289 his lifetime, post this event, many years later, 00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:55.269 he wavered between calling it a hoax and insisting 00:31:55.269 --> 00:31:57.769 it was true, which really left historians debating 00:31:57.769 --> 00:32:00.400 whether he was. deliberately deceptive, perhaps 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.259 mentally unstable, or both. His first confession 00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:06.420 came in the late 1960s after the story began 00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:08.980 gaining distraction. Carlos wrote letters to 00:32:08.980 --> 00:32:11.420 researchers admitting that he had made the whole 00:32:11.420 --> 00:32:13.700 damn thing up. He explained that his letters 00:32:13.700 --> 00:32:16.259 to Morris Jessup were a prank meant to spook 00:32:16.259 --> 00:32:19.299 him. He specifically said he invented the annotations 00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:22.759 in the case of the UFO and that there were no 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.359 three different authors of the notes, only him. 00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:29.009 The confession came after Jessup's tragic suicide 00:32:29.009 --> 00:32:33.049 in 1959, which some had connections to the Philadelphia 00:32:33.049 --> 00:32:36.170 experiment publicity. Carlos seemed to show guilt 00:32:36.170 --> 00:32:38.569 during that time for that man's death, suggesting 00:32:38.569 --> 00:32:41.829 his hoax had unintended consequences. But not 00:32:41.829 --> 00:32:44.089 long after confessing, Carlos changed the story 00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:46.430 again, saying his confession was false and the 00:32:46.430 --> 00:32:48.890 experiment really happened. This flip -flop became 00:32:48.890 --> 00:32:51.029 a hallmark of his behavior, alternating between 00:32:51.029 --> 00:32:53.569 a hoax to claims of truth. Some accounts say 00:32:53.569 --> 00:32:56.289 he later insisted government agents assured him 00:32:56.289 --> 00:32:59.069 into retracting the truth, which only adds fuel 00:32:59.069 --> 00:33:02.569 to the conspiracy lore. And then in the 1970s 00:33:02.569 --> 00:33:05.829 and 80s, in interviews and correspondence, Carlos 00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:08.109 repeated versions of both claims. Sometimes he 00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:10.210 said it was just a story. Other times he described 00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:12.450 in detail how sailors were fused into the metal 00:33:12.450 --> 00:33:14.609 of the ship or how the Eldridge teleporter from 00:33:14.609 --> 00:33:17.690 Philadelphia to Norfolk. His contradiction testimony, 00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:20.410 I think undermines his reliability, but helped 00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:23.750 the myth grow. Before his death in 1994, Carlos 00:33:23.750 --> 00:33:25.890 was still writing letters and speaking about 00:33:25.890 --> 00:33:28.579 this. with researchers, his tone shifted more 00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:31.039 towards the mythic version of events, time travel 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.859 and visibility and the Tesla based experiments. 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.880 And ultimately before he died, he never really 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.799 settled on one final truth. Sometimes he wanted 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.039 to expose himself as a trickster and sometimes 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.480 he wanted to be remembered as the man who revealed 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.339 the government secret. And what that if all those 00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:48.759 train of events are true that I've looked up 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.579 online, it speaks to a man that is kind of mentally 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.619 perturbed. Like he doesn't know what version 00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.960 of events that he wants to discuss. He doesn't 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.480 know what he wants his claim to fame to be. I 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.079 could see somebody confessing to something and 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.579 then recanting it once because somebody forced 00:34:03.579 --> 00:34:05.759 him to, or he felt unsafe, or he felt at risk 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.240 for his life because the government wanted to 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.639 cover it up. But bouncing back and forth through 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.079 this entire time, ultimately until he was fairly 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.699 old when he passed away, makes me question this 00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:16.800 guy even further. And he's starting to call it 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.820 all these pieces. I think eventually they did 00:34:18.820 --> 00:34:21.300 handwriting analysis on the, I think it was called 00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:24.199 the Vero book. And they found out that it was 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.309 all tied back. to him, like it matched his handwriting 00:34:26.309 --> 00:34:28.590 sample and all the information written in the 00:34:28.590 --> 00:34:30.750 sidebar. How he got there, how he delivered it, 00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:32.809 how he got into the facility, I don't know. I 00:34:32.809 --> 00:34:34.949 know Carlos obviously served in the military. 00:34:34.969 --> 00:34:36.949 He was a merchant Marine. Perhaps he had access 00:34:36.949 --> 00:34:38.909 to these facilities during that time. But it 00:34:38.909 --> 00:34:41.630 just makes me question his reliability for this 00:34:41.630 --> 00:34:44.090 particular one. Yeah, I'm not trying to defend 00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:47.170 the guy one way or the other, but it is, I don't 00:34:47.170 --> 00:34:50.110 think it's uncommon for somebody who spills the 00:34:50.110 --> 00:34:52.050 state secret to have the government come up to 00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:54.969 him and be like, yo, you need to stop this or 00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:57.010 you're not going to be around anymore. So I do 00:34:57.010 --> 00:35:00.369 think fear could be a good motivator to retract 00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:02.469 your story because you don't want to. get murdered 00:35:02.469 --> 00:35:04.429 or have your family get murdered or whatever 00:35:04.429 --> 00:35:07.130 horrible crap that may happen to you. The mystery 00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:09.469 and all this that I want solved is how did that 00:35:09.469 --> 00:35:11.969 book end up in the office of naval intelligence? 00:35:12.130 --> 00:35:14.449 That's what I want to know. I'm sure it's probably 00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:17.030 not that big of a mystery. He probably somehow 00:35:17.030 --> 00:35:18.969 snuck in there or gave it to somebody who worked 00:35:18.969 --> 00:35:20.369 there and asked them to put it in one of the 00:35:20.369 --> 00:35:23.409 file rooms. But it was shocking enough for them 00:35:23.409 --> 00:35:25.389 to actually go out and try to investigate it. 00:35:25.409 --> 00:35:27.250 And I'm sure it's not fun being just up to have 00:35:27.250 --> 00:35:29.170 the office of naval intelligence come to you 00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:30.690 like, why is your book in here? And why are all 00:35:30.690 --> 00:35:32.909 these crazy notes in the margins. It also makes 00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:36.769 me wonder because this project was declassified 00:35:36.769 --> 00:35:39.510 decades after the fact and the project I'm talking 00:35:39.510 --> 00:35:42.090 about is project rainbow. And again, like we 00:35:42.090 --> 00:35:45.289 said, it was an actual top secret project. So 00:35:45.289 --> 00:35:48.210 a part of me thinks that somehow Carlos knew 00:35:48.210 --> 00:35:50.789 something about this project. Somehow he got 00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:53.449 some sort of information. He created this fantastical 00:35:53.449 --> 00:35:55.849 story, somehow got that book in there. And then 00:35:55.849 --> 00:35:58.639 the Navy's thinking. Why is there a book written 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.840 by some random dude that has notes in the margins 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.159 about Project Rainbow? He shouldn't know about 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.559 this. Let's go figure out who spilled the beans 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.780 and get down to the bottom of this. That right 00:36:08.780 --> 00:36:11.420 there is I think the biggest conspiracy of this 00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:13.840 whole show. It's a good point. You always heard 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.840 the phrase loose lips sink ships. I think as 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.960 you build these massive coils and you put them 00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.139 on the ships, people got to be talking about 00:36:22.139 --> 00:36:24.199 it. Like it's hard to hide. I don't know where 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.179 they were actually out retrofitting this ship 00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:28.090 with the coils and all the things that they were 00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:31.010 doing for project rainbow. I suspect in Philadelphia 00:36:31.010 --> 00:36:33.530 naval yard somewhere, but I almost suspect like, 00:36:33.730 --> 00:36:36.789 how can you conceal that? And though folks are 00:36:36.789 --> 00:36:38.989 obligated to their security clearances, we see 00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:40.869 people all the time break those and they tell 00:36:40.869 --> 00:36:42.489 their friends, it's okay if I tell my mom and 00:36:42.489 --> 00:36:44.110 dad and brother, but I won't tell anybody else. 00:36:44.250 --> 00:36:45.690 And then brother finds out about it. It's okay 00:36:45.690 --> 00:36:47.949 if I tell this person they won't find out about 00:36:47.949 --> 00:36:50.670 it. And it just starts to spread and he served. 00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:53.130 I don't know as much about Jessup's background, 00:36:53.349 --> 00:36:55.530 but Carlos served as a merchant Marine. So he 00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:57.610 had. ties within those inner circles. He served 00:36:57.610 --> 00:37:00.030 during World War II. He probably saw some combat 00:37:00.030 --> 00:37:02.050 and he served during that time. So it wouldn't 00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:03.510 be out of the realm of possibility that he would 00:37:03.510 --> 00:37:05.889 learn about it along the way, at least in my 00:37:05.889 --> 00:37:07.670 mind. Yeah, the other thing that kind of bothers 00:37:07.670 --> 00:37:10.130 me about this story is that ships have detailed 00:37:10.130 --> 00:37:12.650 logs of where their locations are. And it doesn't 00:37:12.650 --> 00:37:15.309 mean that these logs can't be fabricated, altered, 00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:18.349 or just even erased altogether. But according 00:37:18.349 --> 00:37:21.469 to the ship's logs, in 1943, it was in the Mediterranean. 00:37:21.650 --> 00:37:23.650 So it can't be, I guess it could be two places 00:37:23.650 --> 00:37:25.130 at once, according to this story, because it 00:37:25.130 --> 00:37:27.690 can transport all over the world. But barring 00:37:27.690 --> 00:37:30.610 the teleportation part of this, it was thousands 00:37:30.610 --> 00:37:33.349 and thousands of miles away from the Philadelphia 00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:36.050 Naval Shipyard. Yeah, it's detailed. then it 00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:38.110 went back into service after we sold it off. 00:37:38.369 --> 00:37:41.250 We know the long history of the ship, and I don't 00:37:41.250 --> 00:37:43.170 know, man. Of the conspiracy theories we talk 00:37:43.170 --> 00:37:44.889 about, I always think there's breadcrumbs of 00:37:44.889 --> 00:37:47.030 truth. I have a hard time particularly buying 00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:49.409 this one. What I didn't find, and perhaps you 00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:52.550 did, is so we have the characters in play in 00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:54.570 Philadelphia when this experiment occurs. We 00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:56.530 at least have one witness that speaks about it. 00:37:56.570 --> 00:37:59.230 They say people see it in North Folk. Like they 00:37:59.230 --> 00:38:01.550 see it appear in North Folk briefly before I 00:38:01.550 --> 00:38:03.489 guess it disappears again. But no one really 00:38:03.489 --> 00:38:05.150 witnesses have come forward and said, I saw a 00:38:05.150 --> 00:38:06.730 giant ghost ship that kind of passed through 00:38:06.730 --> 00:38:08.769 this harbor. Nobody's on record. It just, some 00:38:08.769 --> 00:38:11.250 people said it, which I find interesting is that 00:38:11.250 --> 00:38:12.989 you supposedly had a witness account, but nobody's 00:38:12.989 --> 00:38:15.739 actually a witness. Yeah, this is where stuff 00:38:15.739 --> 00:38:18.059 starts to fall apart for me with conspiracies. 00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:20.300 Just like with Project Blue Beam, when somebody 00:38:20.300 --> 00:38:23.619 claims to get some sort of hard, tangible evidence, 00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:26.119 they never for some reason produce it. And then 00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.519 the other evidence is, I heard a guy tell me 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.000 XYZ. XYZ is really not that reliable of a piece 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.219 of evidence to me. Is this person mentally ill? 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.460 Is this person looking for attention? Is this 00:38:36.460 --> 00:38:39.500 person just full blown in the full blown psychosis? 00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.639 It just, it gets a little bit weird. There were 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.159 also some one - off stories about witnesses seeing 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.659 some of these sailors that were apparently on 00:38:48.659 --> 00:38:51.019 the Philadelphia experiment on the Elk Ridge. 00:38:51.380 --> 00:38:53.539 According to the story, when the ship came back, 00:38:53.659 --> 00:38:56.219 teleported back, became visible again. Not only 00:38:56.219 --> 00:38:58.239 were people fused in the ship, but some people 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.900 were just missing. They weren't there at all. 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.159 And there are some first -hand or second -hand 00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.659 accounts of people seeing somebody who should 00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:07.860 have been on this ship in a bar. And when they 00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:09.760 go up to them, they disappear. So they vanish 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.860 right in front of their eyes. Again, this sounds 00:39:11.860 --> 00:39:14.510 like stuff out of a horror slash sci -fi movie 00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:16.550 to me. Before we wrap the show up, I do want 00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:18.530 to talk about a fellow named Al Beely. Cause 00:39:18.530 --> 00:39:21.909 if you think Carlos out of wild, this guy's tail 00:39:21.909 --> 00:39:24.789 gets crazy out of control. He was born Edward 00:39:24.789 --> 00:39:27.610 Cameron. And according to his claims, he goes 00:39:27.610 --> 00:39:29.969 by the name of Al Beely. So in the late 1980s, 00:39:30.010 --> 00:39:33.090 1990s, he came forward at a UFO and conspiracy 00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:35.190 conference saying he recovered suppressed memories 00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:36.949 of being directly involved in the Philadelphia 00:39:36.949 --> 00:39:39.550 experiment. He tied himself to the legend of 00:39:39.550 --> 00:39:42.550 the USS Eldridge and he tied the this in with 00:39:42.550 --> 00:39:44.969 time travel, mind control, and even the Montauk 00:39:44.969 --> 00:39:47.210 project, like we stated before. His core claims 00:39:47.210 --> 00:39:49.530 were that he was there. Bealick claimed that 00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:51.510 he served aboard the USS Eldridge during the 00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:54.110 Philadelphia experiment in 1943, and he did so 00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:56.510 under the name of Ed Cameron. He said that his 00:39:56.510 --> 00:39:59.469 brother Duncan Cameron were Navy sailors assigned 00:39:59.469 --> 00:40:01.769 to operate the ship's massive electromagnetic 00:40:01.769 --> 00:40:05.150 equipment. So he claims when the experiment began, 00:40:05.349 --> 00:40:07.369 the ship was engulfed in the greenish haze, like 00:40:07.369 --> 00:40:09.429 we talked about, and vanished. Bealick and Duncan 00:40:09.429 --> 00:40:11.630 jumped overboard, but instead of hitting the 00:40:11.630 --> 00:40:13.730 water they fell through a tunnel of light and 00:40:13.730 --> 00:40:17.110 ended up in the year 2137 so already this story 00:40:17.110 --> 00:40:19.510 is getting wild so he claimed he spent weeks 00:40:19.510 --> 00:40:22.889 in 2137 recovering in a futuristic hospital bed 00:40:22.889 --> 00:40:25.289 where doctors use advanced light -based healing 00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:28.119 he said he saw visions of post -apocalyptic America 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.219 with huge earth changes, reduced population in 00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:34.340 a very authoritarian world. So he did another 00:40:34.340 --> 00:40:37.679 leap to the year 2749. So after he spent weeks 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.760 in 20, 2137, he said he was transported even 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.019 further to 2749. He said there, he natively lived 00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:46.699 in floating cities run by artificial intelligence, 00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:49.280 money no longer existed, and society was governed 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.880 by a synthetic intelligence. Which if I was to 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.079 believe anything, I think this is where society's 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.039 going. But anyway. He claimed to have spent two 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.280 years there before being sent back. When he got 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.880 returned to the quote unquote past, he and Duncan 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.699 eventually were put back in the 1943 onto the 00:41:04.699 --> 00:41:06.780 deck of the Eldridge. The experiment was obviously 00:41:06.780 --> 00:41:09.960 considered a disaster. Many crew were dead, insane, 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.400 or just fused to the ship. Bielak later tied 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.480 the story to the Montauk project, claiming the 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.679 government continued invisibility and time triathlon 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.840 research into the seventies and eighties. And 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.639 he said he worked at the Montauk under his second 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.949 quote unquote life identity as Al Bielak. And 00:41:24.949 --> 00:41:26.610 that his memories were suppressed through the 00:41:26.610 --> 00:41:29.190 control up until the eighties when he saw the 00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:31.550 movie, the Philadelphia experiment, which was 00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:35.349 made and released in 1984. And he had this complete 00:41:35.349 --> 00:41:38.190 remembrance. His amnesia was gone and he remembered 00:41:38.190 --> 00:41:41.050 all this experience. He did give some quote unquote 00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:44.090 evidence. He claimed that his body showed signs 00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:46.869 of aging inconsistencies, which supported his 00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:49.070 claim of time travel. I don't know, man. Like 00:41:49.070 --> 00:41:51.869 how do you show signs of aging inconsistencies? 00:41:51.909 --> 00:41:53.809 Some people age fast, some people age slow. I 00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:56.329 don't even know what that means. And he did speak 00:41:56.329 --> 00:41:59.650 in technical terms like zero point energy, electromagnetic 00:41:59.650 --> 00:42:02.570 fields, the unified field theory, mixing real 00:42:02.570 --> 00:42:04.969 science with jargon and pseudoscience. So he 00:42:04.969 --> 00:42:07.590 also made some prophecies. He made predictions 00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:11.349 about Earth changes between 2000 and 2025, including 00:42:11.349 --> 00:42:13.829 shifting coastline and mass depopulation. According 00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:15.570 to my watch, I think we have three months until 00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:17.570 all these prophecies have to happen. I don't 00:42:17.570 --> 00:42:19.670 know, man. There's no digging in deeper. There's 00:42:19.670 --> 00:42:22.409 no record, no Navy records of Edward Cameron 00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:24.719 serving. known to Eldridge. His timeline shifted 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.019 over the years and his details, again, contradicted 00:42:28.019 --> 00:42:30.599 documented history. These recovered memories 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.519 were probably just inspired by science fiction 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.659 movie books and the conspiracy lore that's spread 00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:39.039 in the eighties. And he borrowed heavily from 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.119 Preston Nichols and Peter Moon, who wrote the 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.460 Montauk project series. I don't know, man. I 00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:44.659 don't even know what to say about this right 00:42:44.659 --> 00:42:48.139 now, but you go from Carlos, who's writing notes 00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:50.659 in the book and sending letters to this guy said 00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:53.050 he lived 700 years in the future. You know what 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:56.170 movie I watched yesterday? Indiana Jones. I realized 00:42:56.170 --> 00:43:00.670 that I'm Dr. Jones. It's 2742. I'll be like out 00:43:00.670 --> 00:43:03.730 in 2749. I know the story's real. Yeah. A very 00:43:03.730 --> 00:43:05.289 popular movie comes out and all of a sudden he 00:43:05.289 --> 00:43:07.150 realizes he has suppressed memories. That just 00:43:07.150 --> 00:43:09.829 sounds called insanity to me. You want to live 00:43:09.829 --> 00:43:12.010 something, so you impersonate it. That's crazy 00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:13.710 bizarre, isn't it? We touched on it a little 00:43:13.710 --> 00:43:15.630 bit earlier in the episode. I was talking about 00:43:15.630 --> 00:43:17.750 his past and you talked about the present that 00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:20.289 he experienced, but I'm not buying it. I know, 00:43:20.510 --> 00:43:22.909 I don't either. So I want the wrap of the show 00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:24.989 with what you think actually happened and what 00:43:24.989 --> 00:43:27.530 you think this actually is. It's a good question. 00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:30.070 I think at the end of all this ships vanishing 00:43:30.070 --> 00:43:32.610 in the fog, sailors caught between worlds and 00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:34.750 stories that really refuse to die. I think we're 00:43:34.750 --> 00:43:37.210 left with a question about what's real and what's 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:39.929 legend. As Christians, we know the human knowledge 00:43:39.929 --> 00:43:42.769 has limits. For every equation written on a chalkboard, 00:43:42.789 --> 00:43:45.389 for every experiment whispered, there's a truth 00:43:45.389 --> 00:43:47.750 greater than anything we can ultimately invent. 00:43:47.849 --> 00:43:50.110 For me, scripture reminds us of a Colossians 00:43:50.110 --> 00:43:53.170 1 .17. He is before all things and in him, all 00:43:53.170 --> 00:43:54.909 things hold together. To me, the Philadelphia 00:43:54.909 --> 00:43:57.369 experiment asked, what if a man could bend the 00:43:57.369 --> 00:43:59.789 fabric of reality? To me, faith answers. Only 00:43:59.789 --> 00:44:01.869 God holds reality itself in his hands. We may 00:44:01.869 --> 00:44:04.369 chase mysteries, we may imagine what could have 00:44:04.369 --> 00:44:06.170 been, but we trust that the creator is the one 00:44:06.170 --> 00:44:08.530 who speaks space, time and light into being. 00:44:08.630 --> 00:44:11.250 So when I look at stories like this, As a former 00:44:11.250 --> 00:44:13.369 detective, what do these people have to gain? 00:44:13.429 --> 00:44:15.710 It seems like they have a lot to gain. They gain 00:44:15.710 --> 00:44:19.570 fame, perhaps fortune, through this entire process. 00:44:19.730 --> 00:44:22.670 And I don't trust it. He eventually comes out 00:44:22.670 --> 00:44:25.909 and says that he lied and he recants. And this 00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:28.150 story is just hidden with a lot of fantastical 00:44:28.150 --> 00:44:30.730 elements that ultimately can't be proven. Now, 00:44:30.730 --> 00:44:32.550 I'm not one that says I trust the government 00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:34.570 and everything they say. They know a whole lot 00:44:34.570 --> 00:44:37.010 more than they're willing to tell us. That's 00:44:37.010 --> 00:44:40.019 100 % for certain. Some is for... protectionism 00:44:40.019 --> 00:44:41.719 made they don't want the enemy to get their hands 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.340 on the technology that we have. I think what's 00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:47.599 most probable is that in Philadelphia and during 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.099 1945 when project rainbow was occurring, they 00:44:51.099 --> 00:44:53.980 were trying to, as you spoke about, escape the 00:44:53.980 --> 00:44:57.099 magnetic mines and trying to escape the wolf 00:44:57.099 --> 00:45:00.099 packs and they were trying out some new tools 00:45:00.099 --> 00:45:02.260 in their arsenal. They were large coils on the 00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:04.679 ships. They were doing all these other things 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.300 to try to circumnavigate it. And perhaps what 00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.739 happened is a tragedy. a fire started, people 00:45:09.739 --> 00:45:12.119 died. And when that happened, the government 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.719 covered it up as much as they like to do because 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.780 they don't want to talk about the technology 00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:19.440 that they were trying to deploy to circumnavigate 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.400 around what the Nazis were doing. So that makes 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.079 a lot of sense to me. We do have a government 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:24.920 conspiracy theory, but I think the government 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.159 conspiracy is not about a teleporting ship. It's 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.860 about Project Rainbow and perhaps a tragedy that 00:45:30.860 --> 00:45:33.039 occurred where sellers lost their life. But for 00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.159 this one, check me out, man. I'm not buying what 00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.349 Carlos and his friends are selling. Yeah, man, 00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:41.409 I could buy that one. Me personally, I just don't 00:45:41.409 --> 00:45:44.070 see, again, I don't see evidence. So you have 00:45:44.070 --> 00:45:46.369 Carlos, who's writing letters and he's always 00:45:46.369 --> 00:45:48.389 recanting and then restating. And then you have 00:45:48.389 --> 00:45:51.050 Al Beelik, who comes up with the most fantastical 00:45:51.050 --> 00:45:54.349 story of debatably the 20th century. Time travel, 00:45:54.489 --> 00:45:58.010 again, we go back to climate change and nasty 00:45:58.010 --> 00:46:00.750 population and catastrophes. And I don't know, 00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:02.869 it just doesn't seem believable to me. And the 00:46:02.869 --> 00:46:04.829 fact that the Eldritch wasn't even there, it 00:46:04.829 --> 00:46:06.590 doesn't mean that there wasn't another ship there 00:46:06.590 --> 00:46:08.980 and something happened. But in my mind, if you're 00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:11.599 doing a secret experiment to make a ship invisible, 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:13.699 why would you do it in the Philadelphia Naval 00:46:13.699 --> 00:46:15.599 Shipyard? Why wouldn't you do it off the coast 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.260 of Nova Scotia, where nobody's at? That way nobody 00:46:18.260 --> 00:46:20.239 can see it. That way there's no witnesses and 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.019 the only people that are a part of it are the 00:46:22.019 --> 00:46:23.659 sailors on the ship. And if it goes invisible, 00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:25.900 most of those guys are inside the hull. They're 00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:27.380 not going to know what happened. So you have 00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:30.079 an observer ship and then you have the ship you're 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.059 doing the experiment on and only the people on 00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:33.940 the deck, the only people on the deck are people 00:46:33.940 --> 00:46:35.440 that are actually involved in this experiment. 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.489 We know how compa - minimalized the government 00:46:37.489 --> 00:46:39.550 is. They don't show off in front of thousands 00:46:39.550 --> 00:46:41.949 of people. Heck, a lot of the soldiers that are 00:46:41.949 --> 00:46:43.369 being experimented on don't even know what's 00:46:43.369 --> 00:46:45.610 going on. So none of it really lines up with 00:46:45.610 --> 00:46:48.269 how the policies and process that the government 00:46:48.269 --> 00:46:50.630 uses to keep stuff secret. None of it lines up. 00:46:50.769 --> 00:46:52.670 And the other thing that kills me too is that 00:46:52.670 --> 00:46:54.190 if you had thousands of people that witnessed 00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:56.230 this, you would think you'd have thousands of 00:46:56.230 --> 00:46:58.409 stories, if not tens of thousands of stories, 00:46:58.710 --> 00:47:00.750 second hand, third hand, my dad saw this, my 00:47:00.750 --> 00:47:03.429 uncle saw that, my grandpa said this. And why 00:47:03.429 --> 00:47:05.309 wouldn't you have hundreds of stories of the 00:47:05.309 --> 00:47:06.789 people on the ship saying, you won't believe 00:47:06.789 --> 00:47:08.889 what happened. Like this dude was fused into 00:47:08.889 --> 00:47:11.309 the hall and he's screaming in agony. And this 00:47:11.309 --> 00:47:12.989 other guy went crazy. And this other guy just 00:47:12.989 --> 00:47:15.989 wasn't there. It's just too many people not to 00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:18.869 have again, thousands of stories in it. You know, 00:47:18.869 --> 00:47:20.869 if they were scared, why were they're not deathbed 00:47:20.869 --> 00:47:22.710 confessions, trying to get this stuff off their 00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:25.190 chest, trying to expose it. So none of it, dude, 00:47:25.210 --> 00:47:27.550 I want to believe it because it sounds so cool. 00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:30.289 And it sounds just super sci -fi, which I love 00:47:30.289 --> 00:47:32.969 that. I love the sci -fi genre, but I just don't 00:47:32.969 --> 00:47:34.809 think there's enough evidence to support anything. 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.219 happened at all. And again, the government can 00:47:37.219 --> 00:47:39.320 cover up and alter records of where ships were. 00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:41.380 And unless I see the evidence, I'm not going 00:47:41.380 --> 00:47:43.059 to believe it, man. And there's just not enough, 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.519 there's maybe less than five stories about this 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.599 from three or four different people. And it's 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.179 all, they claim to be two firsthand witnesses. 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.480 It just doesn't pass the smell test for me, brother. 00:47:52.699 --> 00:47:54.760 I agree. And you made a really good point. When 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.039 we think about the Manhattan Project, where did 00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.420 that occur? It wasn't occurring. I get they were 00:47:59.420 --> 00:48:01.280 blowing big things up, but it occurred out in 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.860 the middle of nowhere, not in some harbor that's 00:48:03.860 --> 00:48:05.940 very populated. Obviously, Philadelphia is a 00:48:05.940 --> 00:48:07.880 very populated area where you're going to have 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.880 hundreds and thousands of witnesses that could 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.820 potentially see something and expose the government 00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:14.960 project that's ongoing. Very good point. What 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.139 do you want to leave the audience with tonight? 00:48:17.539 --> 00:48:19.739 Don't believe everything you hear or see. Jesus 00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:22.170 loves you. We love you. pray for discernment 00:48:22.170 --> 00:48:24.829 and wisdom because you can't believe every story 00:48:24.829 --> 00:48:27.130 a huckster or false prophet tells you, man. You 00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:28.889 got to ask God for that wisdom and discernment. 00:48:28.909 --> 00:48:30.769 He'll let you know. He'll tell you. He'll guide 00:48:30.769 --> 00:48:33.599 you. Yeah, 100%. As we always say, discernment. 00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:35.800 I think reality is always somewhere in the middle. 00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:37.760 It's not saying I don't believe in any conspiracy 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:39.559 theories because there are things that I believe 00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.659 in, but there's some that, like you said, don't 00:48:41.659 --> 00:48:43.539 pass the smell test. As a law enforcement officer, 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.139 I would never believe them. If you want to tell 00:48:45.139 --> 00:48:46.820 me to go charge somebody because of this, that 00:48:46.820 --> 00:48:48.280 wouldn't happen. There's not enough evidence. 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.159 What it also comes down to is cops are just logical. 00:48:51.260 --> 00:48:53.800 Is it logical? No, it's not. Like you said, have 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.500 discernment, believe in Christ, question everything, 00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:02.380 and until next time. or zero signal. 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