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you're probably already thinking. No fluff, no
filters, no bullshit. Let's crack it open. For
hundreds of years, one name dominated European
maps. A place so vast and so mysterious, stretching
across Serbia, Mongolia, and Central Asia. They
called it Tartari. To the mapmakers of the 16th,
17th, and even 18th centuries, the single word
described a land so enormous, so unknown, that
it almost seemed mythical. Travelers whispered
of fierce horsemen, of nomadic knights, and strange
cities lost to time. It was the edge of the world,
a space where history blurred into legend. And
yet, by the middle 19th century, Tartari was
gone, not conquered, not renamed, not reimagined.
simply erased. The word disappeared from atlases,
banished from encyclopedias, and relegated to
obscurity. Historians explained it away as a
vague European label, a placeholder for lands
they didn't yet understand. But for others, this
sudden vanishing was not coincidence. It was
evidence of something far more sinister. Because
in recent years, Tartari has resurfaced. Not
in academic circles. But in the realm of conspiracy
theories, Tartari was not just a geographic label.
It was a lost empire, technologically advanced,
architecturally magnificent and global in scale.
They point to the great stone buildings of the
18th and 19th centuries, cathedrals, government
halls, even world fair pavilions and ask where
these really built by the nations that claim
them or are they stolen remnants? of a forgotten
Tartari civilization. Others speak of the so
-called Mud Flood, a cataclysm in the not -so
-distant past that buried entire cities under
layers of earth, leaving only the tops of Tartari
architecture visible, a system of power drawn
directly from the atmosphere, hidden in spires
and domes and towers. If true, It would mean
the technology we depend on today pale in comparison
to what once existed. So what was Tartari, really?
A simple mapmaker's mistake? A convenient label
for lands Europeans didn't control? Or a thriving
empire whose history was deliberately erased,
its technology suppressed, and its people scattered,
its name buried under layers of dirt and denial?
Tonight we're going to trace Tartari. from its
appearance on old maps to its disappearance from
history and then into the strange new life it
found online. One of the most persistent and
captivating conspiracy theories of our time.
Now, Jay, let me ask you this. Do you think Tartari
ever truly existed? And if so, could it still
exist today hidden somewhere? Under the mud.
Yeah, this is a big one. This one has so many
rabbit holes you can go down. I almost feel like
we can do a whole podcast on something just like
the mud flood, but I love it. It's so vast. It's
so deep. Let's try to unpack some of the big
bullet points here. I think the first interesting
theme is that it's tied in a lot with little
season. Do you know anything about the little
season at all? Not too much. Let me know. The
theory or the conspiracy theory is that the little
season is Satan's reign after millennial reign.
So essentially the little season suggests that.
The book of Revelations has already unfolded.
Christ has come back. He reigned for a thousand
years. And at the end of a thousand years, he
let Satan deceive the nations. A lot of people
argue that right now we're in the little season.
I personally don't believe it. A lot of the descriptions
of Revelations specifically revolving around
mountains and islands is obviously not the case.
In Revelations, it says there's a massive earthquake.
All the islands will disappear. Mountains will
move, essentially becoming flat. We can look
around our world now in mountains and we can
see islands. We can travel to Hawaii. Puerto
Rico and everything else. So I personally do
not believe this theory, but the conspiracy behind
it is that all these megalithic buildings that
are ornate in structure and detail are remnants
of Christ's millennial reign. We can dig more
into that a little later, but it is a big component
of Tartaria in some circles. I've always heard
it called Christ's Millennial Reign. The Little
Seasons didn't strike a bell with me initially.
A predisposition is that during Christ's Millennial
Reign that he's actually here on earth. So I
feel like if he's not here, then how could it
correspond to each other? Yeah. So I think the
premise is that once Christ allows the demons
or fallen angels to come back, he just removes
himself from the scene to prepare for the final.
battle good and evil. They were saying the Christ
left. They tried to erase a lot of these buildings,
but inevitably we've dug them up or found them
over the decades and centuries. Yeah. I always
had revelations because it talks in such poetic
terms that it's hard to interpret. So we take
our best guess. Even Paul was writing about revelations
during the end of times. He talked about like
flying scorpions through the air and later people
figured out that he was talking about helicopters
and missiles falling down into the sky. So it
always confuses me a little bit. When I first
looked. at this theory of Tartari. One of the
first names that came up in my research was Anatoly
Fomukil, if I'm saying that name correctly, out
of Russia. When you start to dig into Russia
and people trying to reset history are starting
to talk about these alternative realities. He
claimed ancient history was fabricated. that
Jesus lived in the 12th century, that the Trojan
Wars were actually the Crusades, that Genghis
Khan was actually a Russian. The U .S. was once
part of the Serbian -American empire. He rejected
carbon dating. Which I actually disagree with.
I don't believe in carbon dating as science tells
it today. I think the earth though is ancient.
I think it's much younger than people make it
out to be. I don't think it's 6 billion years
or whatever they say. One of the founding fathers
of this theory between Anatoly and Nikolai Levarshash,
if I'm saying that name correctly. They talk
a lot about this, but they also talk about the
great Russian empire and how they want to unite
it and make claims over the entire world at the
same time. So that's always like my first first
false flag that kind of goes up is when they're
talking about something really unusual and unique
and you see it coming out of Russia that are
they making up this theory to make more land
claims like they make claims on Ukraine and they
make claims on Alaska and make claims on different
places or is it reality? Yeah, it's interesting
you said that because he claimed that Christ's
century points back to millennial reign that
has already happened. So I can almost read between
the lines there and it seems like he's suggesting
that we are now in fact in the little season.
interesting claim that supports the theory that
we're in the little season is that it depends
on how you break it down. The dark ages, like
the area of history 500 to a thousand years,
that's completely missing. There's not a whole
lot of historical documents. There's not a whole
lot of evidence of any sort of advancement in
civilization. The claim is that modern historians
post 1900 added this thousand year period to
confuse our understanding of time. There are
people that claim that really we're in the year
of 1315 and this 500 to a thousand years, however,
you decide to dice it up is added in the actual
year we're in is nowhere near 2025. I think it's
a good point. I've done a lot of digging in my
yard and various properties over my entire lifespan.
And I never dug up dinosaur bones, remnants of
lost civilizations. That's a big X factor there,
but I am not of the believer that the world is
as old as they say it is. I think if you look
at the biblical anthology, a lot of people have
traced it back and said the world's only somewhere
between 3000 years old. As you stated, there
was a big period of time during the dark ages
when you're talking about King Arthur. and his
Knights of his Round Table, whether that's myth
or fact, we're not quite sure. But it was during
that period of the Dark Ages that people reigned
and people didn't write stuff down. They weren't
literate, right? Like they weren't writing books
and keeping recorded history during that time.
And there was a whole lot of unknown that transpired
during that time. What we can do is look back
at old maps. This civilization is mentioned on
these very old maps of Tartari, which kind of...
stretches up to Serbia and Mongolia and Eastern
Asia and different parts of the world. It's listed
there. It goes through modern times and past
the dark ages, and then it just randomly disappears.
Why do you think it disappeared from maps during
that time when people wrote it down and they
marked it there? Yeah, that's definitely a hard
question. I was watching a video and there were,
even as early back as like the 17th, the 1700s,
there were flags that ships sailed that were
Tartary flags. The theory is that empire fell
somewhere around 1750 and it was wiped off our
history books. Some of that has to do with the
architecture and free energy uses. They wanted
to wipe from our history books, whether or not
that's true. We can dig into that a little bit
later. Just seeing that naval vessels did. sail
a Tartarian flag, leads me to believe that it
was around in the 18th century. Do you think
it was a conglomerate of people? Like that way
back in the day, you had formalized societies,
like the United Kingdom during that time, the
Mongolian empire. Do you think that they listed
it on the maps as land of unknown and that united
people during that time? Or do you think it was
some type of empire or kingdom that rolled these
vast lands fighting against these mighty empires?
The location itself, like where Tatari would
be located if we're looking back hundreds of
years ago, you're dealing with Genghis Khan,
the kings and emperors that rose up in China
during that time. You're dealing with a very
civilized part of the world, very powerful part
of that world during that time where they could
potentially be fighting with them. I saw some
claims that they thought the Tartari actually
built the Great Wall of China to separate the
lands and keep the Tartari people out within
that area. So do you think it was a conglomerate
of people or vast tribes that united during Another
good question, the official narrative is that
the Western Europeans called because it was unknown
to them. They knew there were people there. They
didn't really know what they were. They didn't
really have a whole lot of interaction with them.
They never really explored it. So they claimed
that bataria was, that's just what they gave
the generic term. They never really traded with
them. They never really had any interactions
other than maybe people had it out that way that
came back to stories. But I do believe that empire
did in some form or fashion exist. get, I get
stuck on the naval flags. Why would there be
a recognized naval flag that was sailed in vessels
to identify themselves if it was not, in fact,
a country that was seafaring? I think there was
plenty of historical texts that actually talk
about the Tartars and what they did. I do think
it was probably an empire that was on the border
of Western civilization and also on the border
of Chinese Asian civilization. So it probably
was. somewhat intermixed. It probably was big
enough to sustain its borders while maybe not
really interacting too much with either the West
or the East. It was like a buffer zone where
people could commingle. The interesting thing
you said about the Great Wall of China, I watched
an interesting video about this, is that the
observation was made that the turrets to shoot
arrows were actually pointed toward China. You
would think if China built the Great Wall, it
would be pointed away from China. So the theory
is that the Tartarians built this wall to keep
the Mongol forges out or to keep the dynasties
of China from coming over and taking over their
lands. Yeah, it was a vast, unknown land. It's
crazy to think about. I didn't find when this
kingdom or empire originated. I don't know if
it was the 16th century or before then, but there
were so many vast and powerful empires existing
during that time. You had Genghis Khan that nearly
conquered the entire world. I remember playing
that game. I don't know if you remember this
game we used to play when we were kids called
the three kingdoms, that was like the great empires
that were unite in China during that time. And
to think that there was another third player
that was playing in that sandpit during that
time. I've stood upon the great wall of China
and it's very impressive. The great wall that
I stood upon didn't have any turrets. So it's
really hard to tell. In fact, it was probably
refurbished because it looked fairly new. I don't
know how much of the great wall of China exists
today. That was like the original part, but it's
interesting and it runs a really long way. I
wonder when they were building it, they controlled
a lot of time. So what were they keeping out?
It makes sense that they had this third. other
almost equal power, they were scared of dividing
the land and keeping the forces of what they
viewed as evil out. I don't know. It's interesting
to think about. And when you throw in that mix
of this unlimited energy that they perhaps discovered,
we come back to this a lot with many great empires.
We talk about it with Egypt and the pyramids,
how a lot of people think it was Nikolai Tesla
that the powers, somehow they figured out free
energy across the pyramids that powered their
society. I didn't find a whole lot about that.
It seems like it's connected to the Nikolai Tesla
theory, but I don't know if you found more. Yeah.
I want to circle back to the dark ages. I think
there's two likely scenarios. I don't believe
that it's added time to our history. Probably
what happened is that the Roman Empire collapsed
somewhere around 450 AD. And then when that kind
of collapsed, it turned into big tribes, like
Germanic tribes or European city -states taken
over and constant state of war. You know, this
ain't all roads lead to Rome. I think it had
a big economical impact because once these other
city -states decided. to try to monopolize the
logistical and economic system that it probably
put everything in shambles. You destroy logistics,
you destroy the flow of goods and money with
everyone's fighting over it. You just become
a bunch of fuel states. So it would, I almost
think the middle ages was a time of just the
Romans controlled so much of the Mideast Western
Europe that once that collapsed, it was probably
just constant strife. I guarantee there would
be plagues, famines. There's no real big brother
on the block to keep everybody in check. So it
was probably 500 to a thousand years of just
misery. The other theory is that the reason it's
dark is because this is my theory. I'm sure somebody
else has probably come up with it. If Tartaria
did exist and they didn't want you to know about
it, they just wiped all records off the books.
And in order to wipe them off the books, they
just say, oh, 580 to 1500, we really don't know
anything about it. We looking back to the Romans,
they burned down the library of Alexandria. When
war starts, you start to destroy a lot. of history,
a lot of culture in the process. I leaned toward
the official narrative that this Dark Ages was
due to the fall of the Roman Empire in a constant
state of total war, just misery and economic
devastation. And you're not able to trade or
buy because you have these warlords just taking
your goods and at a certain point you're just
so decentralized that. you just end up taking
care of yourself and forget about everyone else.
But it's an interesting theory to think that
Tartaria kind of stepped up, took over the reins
and they didn't want us to know about the free
energy and some of the fantastic architecture
associated with it. It's a really good point.
When a society is falling apart, very little
is documented. And when you go back that far,
there's not a lot of literate people. To find
somebody that could read and write was probably
few and far between, maybe one in 100 or one
in 1 ,000. So it took somebody special to actually
record and document history during that time.
Even just between the chaos of wars and battles
and fires and famine and plague, it comes very
hard to document those things. I think probably
the best documented end that we have today is
the fall of this world when Jesus Christ returns.
else in between is pure chaos disaster. When
we talk about the Roman empire and IFEL, there's
not a ton about when the Roman empire truly like
evaporate. There are some about the downfall
and the war and the strife that was occurring,
but it just ended at some point and people weren't
sure why. So it makes sense to me why things,
you know, when they go bad and they go south.
People stop writing about them, but I always
wonder if that front loaded, like why did people
not write about them coming into being as civilization,
like how the United States was founded, where
we have those establishing documents. If it's
because of free energy, why are people trying
to hide that from us? I have seen greed and corruption,
but like it takes a whole lot of people to get
on board to hide these certain facts from us.
I take issue with it, but I can see how big elitist
families who control the education system can
exclude. certain types of curriculum, documentation,
or text. Even Kings of Old would collect relics.
And Hitler, we talked about it in our Antarctica
episode. He would collect relics and scrolls
and everything else. There's a plethora of texts
and documents out there, but like you said, they're
limited. Especially if you're going back hundreds
of thousands of years, a lot of people didn't
have the skills to read or write. A lot of it
was passed down orally. If you have a lot of
money and control and you dictate... the education
system, especially in the Western world, you
can have something and just hide it. I do think
a lot of the history that we're taught is not
real. And when I say not real, what I really
am saying is the side that they want you to be.
And when you can exclude things from history,
you can. manipulate people into believing a particular
narrative. So I think in our modern world, sometimes
we search stuff on the internet. 20, 30 years
ago, you search stuff on the internet and get
the most wild, ridiculous stuff. Now it's ordered
in a particular way. It's almost the AIs in the
background being told what to put forward and
what not. Even if you type in Tartaria into the
chat GBT, it's something to give you the mainstream
narrative, touch on the conspiracies, and then
disprove them. Sometimes the explanation is as
to why it's false. don't make a whole lot of
logical sense. We always talk about praying for
wisdom and discerning. A lot of this stuff is
not really hidden all that well. It just expects
you to not have the cognitive capacity to sort
through the information and apply basic logic
to it. We could talk about this all night. I
think it's very easy, especially if you're the
one in the institutions controlling the history,
to tell people what they should believe. I think
a very good example that would connect with our
listeners is the American education system. We're
changing the narrative. We're changing the history
that kids are learning into high school, what
they're learning in college. And in 20, 30, 40
years, the modern narrative is going to look
very different than it does today. It's one of
the reasons why I fear for my kids going to public
school. There's a lot of information out there
that I don't want them to learn. There's 31 genders
and anybody become a man or a woman and Christ
doesn't exist, but they're teaching all these
things in our schools. And it's micro in comparison
to some large civilization, but we're seeing
that transformation occur in our lives today.
So it's not beyond the scope of reality. that
they could hide something like this. Did you
find anything about Tatari or the Tatarians that
showed that they were good people? I couldn't
find anything of what their society or culture
was. Were they good folks? Were they like pressing
freedom or were they dictators and evil? I couldn't
find anything about them. Could you? Yeah. So
again, I think if they existed, they'd be completely
white for the record. I did hear one interesting
segment. This guy was arguing against the millennial
hasn't happened yet. And one of his points was.
that some of these buildings have some pretty
demonic -type statues and inscriptions on them.
His argument was, which I would agree with, if
this was Christ's millennial kingdom, and these
buildings were built by angels and people that
are serving Jesus and they are a thousand years
apiece, why would they inscribe some of the stuff
that's inscribed on them? It wouldn't make any
sense. It boots that out the door immediately.
As to what kind of people they were, again, there's
not a whole lot about them. You ever hear about
the mudflat? I have. It's interesting theory.
It's an interesting theory. I think we can spend
a decent amount of time talking about that. The
argument is that like the Tartarian Empire reigned
from thousand, fifteen hundred, eighty to about
seventeen hundred, seventeen fifty. And they
claim right around like the seventeen hundreds,
eighteen hundreds, there was something called
a mudflat. That kind of wiped not only that civilization
out, but it was a pretty global event. What most
people call it recently. Upon that reset, we
re -dictated how to stream and be known. The
mud floods is a fascinating topic. I don't particularly
agree with it. They claim that there was an earthquake
and there's seismological evidence to suggest
that there's enough water in the ground and an
earthquake vibrates at a certain pace. You can
call it landslides. You can cause buildings to
sink into the earth and cover everything up.
There's a lot of interesting archeological evidence
of people digging up these old civilizations.
A lot of the ancient ruins we see are under feet,
if not dozens of feet of mud and sand. To me,
that's just normal earthquake over time, but
stuff falling down. But it's an interesting theory
to consider that was there like a big catastrophic
flood? I tend to lead to the, we'll talk about
what I think Totaria is at the end. I'll give
my conclusion. But I do find the mud flood an
interesting explanation as to why all of a sudden
this empire was and it was not. Yeah, it's apocalyptic.
And it's interesting that different societies
equate something to Noah's flood, where the great
reset occurred. Noah's the surviving family that
repopulated the earth. And people tell different
versions of it to get further from the gospel
of truth, to tell their versions of history.
When I hear about the mud floods and a lot of
people talk about towns that they found in England
and like they have these windows that are now
buried under the ground or they see these different
barren lands that just looks like settling. I
think about this time when we were kids, when
we lived in St. Louis briefly, dad gave me this
medal that he had won at some corporate event
for being good at his job. And I thought it was
really cool. And we used to have this hill that
was. that felt big to me at the time, because
we were very little. I don't remember how little
we were, but we were very little. And it felt
like this big hill and it was right next to the
sidewalk. And I took his medal out there and
I buried it in the hill. I never found it again.
I went back to look for this medal that was buried
in the hill. Never found it. And now 20, 30 plus
years have gone by and who knows how deep it
is in the ground as things moved and it settled.
the ground and maybe another 40 years, somebody
will find it and be like, wait, what the heck
is this? Who is Jerry Green? And why do I have
a medal with him buried under the ground? Maybe
we'll have another conspiracy theory. Maybe when
dad's long gone, perhaps when I'm long gone,
somebody will think that Jerry Green was this
famous person that settled St. Louis during those
times. That's what I think about the mud flood
during those times. I think there is just some
natural progression that over time with wind,
things get buried. Heavy objects sink in the
mud and things start to disappear before you
start to build a civilization. on top of those
as you knock them down. And if you think about
a house, if I didn't want my house anymore, I
would knock it down. It would be ground level.
I may throw some mud over the remnants that I
couldn't get rid of and I would build upon it
again. It's a really interesting theory. And
as I was reading about it, people were talking
about buildings in the United States, like The
building in Chicago with a raised with hydraulic
jacks and a building in Seattle regarded after
the fire of 1889 and European buildings with
the airway windows and light wells, how they
were associated. I think even in Washington DC
where I live, like they think some of the monuments
were built by the Tartar people and they're like
all these great artifacts in society. They're
associated with them. It's a great story. but
I find it interesting and I'm not sure how much
reality is wrapped behind it. One of the things
that I think about, I obviously, I view the world
from a Christian worldview and I think there's
a lot of demonic symbolism. out there. Like when
we talk about the European Union, there was some
statue across the street of some demon. And a
lot of people say it's all located on 666. I
think we have a lot of these major monuments
that aren't associated with Jesus Christ and
it's against him that are out there. And almost
makes me wonder if they start saying, oh, the
great temple in India that Tartara people built
it. Were these really bad people that we, you
know, maybe it's good that we don't learn about
them anymore, where they build demonic statues
across the world and eventually somebody got
rid of them. Yeah. you ever hear of the orphan
trains? So I'll go ahead and touch on that. So
around the late 1800s, early 1900s, there was
a claim that there were these orphan trains,
tens of thousands of orphans. The claim was that
you could go to the World Fair. The World Fair
has a lot to do with Tartari as well. The claim
was that there was a mudflag, an earthquake,
a seismic event that caused Tartari to be washed
over with mud. And all these surviving kids were
shipped out to the West, more so the United States
and I think certain parts of Western Europe.
to be adopted. And the story was that you could
go to the World Fair and just adopt a kid on
the spot. These kids didn't really have a full
lot of... They're young. There are stories about
them living in this great vast city that was
modern and advanced. This flood came through,
killed their parents, and now they're all trying
to find families to join. To get back to the
World Fair, these are all just theories. You
could go down hours and hours of rabbit holes
on these, but... the World Fairs would pop up
all around. So they would build these massive
city -size fairgrounds that were ornate, beautiful,
like buildings looked like the stuff you'd see
in Washington DC, like the Capitol, the White
House, ornate, beautiful columns. And you could
walk around and go to vendors and just see this
ornate Romanesque architecture. The claim was
that those are remnants of... an old civilization
that was here in the US. And after people got
to experience it, they tore it all down. I watched
an interesting video of a woman who went to the
St. Louis World Fair back in 1904. She was a
teenager, but the guy was asked to tell us about
the world. And she was saying, you walk around,
it's so beautiful. The energy was great. You
just felt amazing. this place and she was saying
like, everything I touched felt like marble.
The claim was that these people put the stuff
together with sticks and drywall and they're
good artisans so they can make it look really
fancy. She claimed everything was marble. It
would be impossible to build this in a year,
let alone a hundred years given modern technology.
But after the world fair would close for that
year, they'd destroy it. And there was also claims
that a lot of these fires like in Chicago and
other big cities were purposely set to destroy
the remnants of this Tartarian global empire.
Yeah, I hear a lot of those theories. Many people
even claimed destruction through a war. They
said World War I and World War II were often
framed to give people a reason to bomb these
targets and demolish them and get rid of them.
What I can understand is why would people want
to get rid of it? We're bombing it. We're setting
it on fire. We're destroying it as soon as you
see it. It's great. People talk about how wonderful
it is, and then it's just gone. Like, why are
we getting rid of it? It just doesn't make sense
to me. It doesn't pass the logic test to me.
I think our forefathers were great artisans.
The Renaissance came around. People really enjoyed
beauty. They loved architecture. Some of our
most famous painters are from that era. And I
think they actually love beauty. Like right now
we live in stick huts that have some paint on
it. Why wouldn't you want to live in a nice marble
building that was ornate and just beautiful?
I think it's just part of the human condition.
A big portion of us just love to destroy, love
to conquer, love to tear down. It's tough. And
then when you tear down, inevitably you end up
building back with something that's not quite
as cool, especially depending on what state you're
in, in terms of your society and your technology.
You could build a house and Amish around here
can build a barn in a day. But then the economics
get into play, money gets into play, people get
greedy. You know, a society kind of degrades
the technical work goes to crap and you end up
getting a subpar product and you're paying a
lot of money for a subpar product. Why would
you purposely destroy that? I don't know, man.
Parts of Europe are beautiful. And it just doesn't
make a lot of sense to purposely destroy it unless
there's a reason behind AKA war. Yeah. Do you
think some of it perhaps is like a protectionism
theory? Meaning that when we split the atom and
came up with the atom bomb and it was this devastating
weapon that would kill millions of people. Like
if you had some time travelers that could prevent
people from splitting the Abenom, prevent us
from dropping it on Japan and creating this nuclear
race where everybody's trying to get nuclear
arms to protect themselves and threaten others
and worst case scenario, they dropped the bomb
and killed millions of people. Perhaps did they
have some type of energy weapon or star forts?
Perhaps were they so dangerous that they had
to disappear? I think if anything, it probably
had to do with free energy. I think that's probably
a good transition to move on to that. The interesting
thing about these Star Force is that they're
built up on ley lines. A lot of people claim
that if you build up on certain ley lines on
the Earth, you're able to harmonize with it.
If you have the right technology, pull the energy
from the air or from the ground, which I think
there's been plenty of experience to suggest
that's possible. I think a lot of people who
were able to find this type of free energy end
up dead or silenced. I think Nikola Tesla was
one of them who he claimed. And I think there's
enough evidence to suggest he could just pull
energy from the air. He said everything in this
universe is vibration frequency. And if you know
that vibration frequency and you know how to
tap into it, energy is free. And I know a lot
of the claims about Tartaria. was that it was
free energy. The powers that be after, especially
started around the 1800s and after, they discovered
that we can pull petroleum from the ground, which
they claim is scarce. I don't particularly believe
oil is scarce. And if it is, there's so much
that we can pull it from the ground for centuries
to come. I think it's a naturally occurring process
within the earth that produces petroleum. As
long as you can find the pockets of it, you can
pull it out. Well, the claim is that the powers
that be wanted to monopolize oil, set up a market
around it and build. our current type of power
grid or energy system for it because they could
always perpetually make rich and stay rich. That
reminds me of Julian Brown. Have you heard about
Julian Brown? I haven't. Yeah. So he's a 21 year
old Chicago inventor known for plasticine invention
that converts plastic into fuel. He has sparked
concern online due to his recent disappearance
from social media. There's videos on social media
where he's actually powering his vehicle with
it. After his invention, he disappeared and he's
been missing for a long time. And now I think
what that tracks to is that free energies is
a very hot topic. Meaning that I've heard like
rumors back in the day that cars, they didn't
need gas to run. Like they would run forever
and they would file their patents and the big
boys like Ford and Chevy and whoever else would
come in and buy up those patents and send these
people off. It's much like medicine. We make
a whole lot of money selling you prevention and
selling you medication versus selling you the
cure and rather just cure any of your cancer
and sending you on your way. It's better to pitch
you through all of these different treatments.
And I wonder if free energy is like that where
the big power players are coming in because they
know they can make money off of it. So they're
going to make this item disappear, go away so
that they can capitalize on that opportunity.
And in our society, yeah, we have free energy
with solar panels, wind energy. It's not really
efficient. It doesn't power things very quickly.
It's very hard to power your entire house with
it. And though some people do it, it can be very
expensive to stick all these solar pounders on.
So I almost wonder if they came up with something
great and the very powerful people were like,
actually you go away because we could make a
whole lot of money off of this. Two things come
to mind. You said this kid made energy from plastic.
Plastic is a by -product of petroleum. I feel
like if you're advanced enough in your chemistry,
I feel like that's a decent probability. find
a way to get energy out of a petroleum based
product. The other thing that comes to my eye
over the past 12 months, all the medicine we
take is actually petroleum based. That blows
my mind. Every pill, every pharmaceutical you
take is petroleum based and it's just put into
different chemical structures. Mind blowing to
me. It's in our food. I don't know if that's
a by -product of the processing or if that's
put in there. purposely, sometimes just the way
manufacturing is and the way we preserve the
package stuff. It's just a natural by -product,
especially if plastics get heated up, they can
leach into your food. Some other interesting
things about Tatarian architecture is that obviously
we talked about the free energy. A lot of people's
claim that these domes and obits can tap into
the atmosphere. There's been some, I don't, again,
we live in the age of AI, so you don't know what
your scene is really about. But I've seen some
pretty convincing videos that in certain atmospheric
conditions, some of these start to glow like
a Tesla coil would and it's pulling energy from
the atmosphere. It was also a claim that some
of these buildings are so harmonically attuned
that they were used for healing chambers. You
could walk in, play a certain frequency, and
that would help restructure your DNA, help you
heal from whatever sort of ailment you may have.
And there's actually been claims that if you
have certain wounds, you would be able to regenerate
certain body parts. Which I thought was pretty
interesting. I know there's a lot of studies
now about frequency and how it can affect you
mentally and physically. A lot of our music was
at one point in time, it was between like 432
to 528 Hertz. But for some reason in the past
hundred years, they changed the frequency of
the music we listen to now. It can make you agitated.
It can make you more anxious. You can listen
to tones and songs and it can calm you down pretty
instantly. Sometimes I use them to sleep. You
can help induce like delta waves and help you
dream and help you relax. The music you listen
to today is in a frequency that's like a kind
of a lower vibration, make you not feel too good
emotionally or mentally. And I think some of
that can affect your spirit too. I found that
interesting about the healing domes and a lot
of this energy they claim they're pulling is
from the eat. So we can have a discussion about
that in a later episode. But I find this whole
ether -based healing in frequency medicine has
some validity to it. There's also claims that
some of these structures, they have magnetic
powered engines. Some people discovered if you
went underneath them, there were like aqua -toxin
that at one time water flowed through them. So
as the water flowed, it would somehow, again,
and this is physics at this point, probably a
little bit of chemistry, help power these. magnetic
coils, which in turn would power lights or some
of these chambers that would send out these frequencies.
And they also said that some of these were used
for underground transit systems, which taking
a leap into the fantastical at this point. And
again, it seems to be no real evidence other
than a few videos on YouTube or TikTok where
you see these things lighten up. I think there's
some reality mixed with the fantastical. So when
we talk about vibration therapy, I'm not well
read on that topic, but I remember an educator
that I had at Fourth Union Military Academy,
a teacher, it was in Mensa. And he strongly believed
that if he played classical music while you studied
or took tests, you would do better. He always
played classical music in his classroom when
we were taking exams and stuff. I always found
that I actually did better because of that. So
there is some validity there. I've seen it in
action. There's just a lot of things that we
haven't discovered yet. I was reading not too
long ago that there is now a way to make people
grow a third set of teeth, some type of form
or faction that as you're an adult and you lose
a set of teeth, there's actually nubs or roots
or whatever in there that actually you can produce
a third set of teeth in your middle years. So
there's a lot we don't know. And perhaps people
are hiding from us. You talk about the water
in the aqueducts. Obviously water is conductive
of electricity. So, you know, there's some theories
in there. the literature that's coming out now
about the pyramids and how they move the stones.
A lot of people said they use aqueducts and these
great aquifers to kind of lift the stones and
get them into place to build these pyramids.
And pyramids are very similar to what they were
building during the Tartarian empire as well.
We have some ability to harness energy, perhaps
electricity or whatever they aren't harnessing
from the atmosphere. Obviously our houses harness
electricity today from the power grid, but we
got a bunch of wires running through that's actually
power and everything. Did they ever talk about
how they conducted or how they use that energy
that they harnessed? That is a good question.
I think a lot of it had to do with elements like
copper and nickel. And I could be a hundred percent
wrong. So if you're listening, just call me an
idiot. So the claim is that they use different
types of technology to light. I don't think they
had iridescent light bulbs, but I think they
had other sorts of elements and ways to project
this light that may have. been. Probably think
about it would be more advanced than what we
do now. I'm not really sure what's in the filament.
It heats up and it's obviously some sort of metal.
It wouldn't be far -fetched to say that they
understood the properties of certain metals and
if you heat it up enough with the right type
of current you could heat this metal and it would
shine light. Another thing I found interesting,
we were talking about star forts earlier. The
claim is that there was some sacred geometry
on these ley lines between these domed star force
novelists that would connect these electromagnetic
fields and this power of these cities. Which
would be a beautiful thing, thankfully, existing.
I think about a star fort and if you're living
back 1700 or before, I feel like a star fort
is a pretty good defensive structure. You're
going to funnel people that are trying to attack
you into these narrow ways. We're going to shoot
them, shoot arrows, drop rocks. And it's going
to be really hard to scale any wall when there's
another wall opposite of you. You're getting
attacked by two sides being put into this fatal
funnel to try to get into the fort. Aside with
that, Star Force was just a tactical thing for
people to better defend against attacks. The
claim is that they were put on ley lines and
they were a part of this worldwide electromagnetic
grid to give free energy to. The only converse
opinion is, if you're building the star fort,
because it's, what is it, five sides, you don't
actually know where your enemy's coming from.
If you knew where your enemy was coming from,
and you had control of this vast territory, it
would be like half that. You would cut the star
in half because you're not defending your backside
at that juncture, because that's where it's secure
at. But it is a good defensive structure. As
you said, if they're going to scale it, they're
going to be attacked from either one or two sides.
They're always going to be at a disadvantage.
It's an interesting theory. Yeah. If you look
at some of these buildings that are claimed to
be Tartarian, they are freaking beautiful. They
look... elegant, they're ornate. And you look
at some of the stuff we built today, it's built
a nice rectangle or square box. Cool. Could you
build me some from 1650? I want that house. Yeah.
Have you seen the pictures back? There are pictures
again, it's probably AI, but there's pictures
of people discovering some of these old buildings
in the late 18th early 90s where they were. I
think you mentioned Seattle. But they walk into
these people are migrating out West. And as they're
migrating, they're finding these structures out
there and they choose to claim the structure.
And then they build the city around. Which I
don't know if it's super far fetched. I could
buy it. And if you're trying to hide it from
history, I could definitely see it happen. But
I want to go back to your other statement too.
And we talked about this in one of our other
episodes. I think what happens is so. A lot of
foundations are built in stone or concrete or
something very robust. When cities burn down
or people demolish stuff, of course they're going
to build back up on a solid foundation, especially
if they're able to rebuild it. So one of the
supposed points or evidence that these buildings
have multi -level floors underneath, I think
it's just people building on top of them once
a structure gets too old or catches fire. People
say, why is half a window? Coming up here, like
that's evidence of the mud flood. Maybe they
wanted some light in their basement. I don't
know. I had cellars. A lot of old buildings.
I was just watching this documentary that was
out your way in PA. That was this abandoned city.
Then they built all these, it was a couple hundred
years ago and they had these, they built this
entire neighborhood of concrete buildings. There
are multiple levels and it ended up being a coal
fire underneath. So everybody abandoned them.
There was this ever burning fire that I guess
was burning for like a hundred years. It's still
burning today. out in PA. But even those buildings
from a couple hundred years ago had cellars underneath.
That's where, if you read the history books,
people stored their food because it was colder.
The earth is the great equalizer. You dig down
and you can stay cooler in the summer and warmer
in the winter. Like you ever go to Mammoth Cave,
it's like you're around 70 degrees because it's
always under the ground. So there's always been
a component of a society that's going to build
something underneath to protect it. What I find
interesting about the Tatari buildings, the different
things that they've built, or at least people
claim that they have built throughout the time.
It ranges anywhere from the Great Pyramids to
the White House. There's so many vast and different
buildings. It's not a single like style or architecture
that they built throughout history. It's everything
in between. Yeah. I think people tend to conflate,
especially if you believe in this theory. Egypt,
Greece, Rome, all the Tartaria. Like I know that's
not the case. Because like you said, we view
this from a biblical lens. Do I think people
can do some pretty epic things? Especially if
you're a king and you just dictate, hey, I want
this built. It might take 30, 40, 50 years, but
if everyone's forced to do it and you're not
bidding the job to be the cheapest bidder, you're
going to build some cool stuff. So he keeps lavishing
his gifts on me. I have some of my beliefs as
to what some of these buildings are. And I don't
think it's farfetched to believe that when settlers
came, over here from Western Europe, they did
find some pretty cool structures. And then they
said, this is where we're going to build our
city. And as they dug, they found more buildings
and more structures and more artifacts as they
were digging deep. And then they decided this
is where it is. This is where we're staying.
I don't necessarily think a bunch of guys on
the Oregon trail went out to Seattle or Denver
or wherever. And this all of a sudden was able
to find the means of concrete and all these other
resources just to throw up a city in 20 years.
That's that robust and ornate. Yeah. I always
find it interesting because history is what somebody
teaches you. And a lot of it is orally passed
down and it changes over time. The only consistent
historical book that we have today is the Bible.
Everything else has been touched and manipulated
through the course of human history. People want
to say the Europeans came here, settled everything,
built great structures, built great sounds, brought
all the society. But before they came here, the
Native Americans were here to pretend that they
all lived in teepees and danced around a fire.
I think it's a little silly in my mind that you
had a whole lot of people here that could never
actually build a structure at all. Regardless
of your religious affiliation, regardless of
your background, you're always going to try to
advance society. And it may not be in every pocket
that was spread across the continental United
States, but there surely had to be folks that
were getting together and trying to build something
for the greater good. We saw it in Mexico with
the Aztecs, the Mayans building pyramid -like
structures during that time. To say that it just
didn't happen here is a bit silly. Yeah, I don't
know. So there's a story, you ever hear of the
Moors? There's some stories about the Moors from
over here and have pretty advanced type cities.
And eventually the claim is that the Moors were
either enslaved. I think the general consensus
is that Moors were African -Americans and the
general consensus is that a lot of the Moors
were made slaves when the Europeans came. I also
think there's evidence of the Vikings being here
up North, not that they made great ornate cities.
Like thousands of years of very little to no
history of North America would lead me to believe
that there were some of these civilizations here
at one point. Drow famine could be a good explanation
as to why. Native Americans from 1500 to 1800
were nomads because they were never able to come
back together, start the reconstruction of whatever
that may have or may not have been here. I always
struggle with the history of how old the world
actually is, because we look from it from a biblical
lens and try to understand how dinosaurs fit
into the equation because obviously we've recovered
dinosaur bones. So I always struggle with that
a little bit. But what I always fall back on,
regardless of how old this world truly is that
God created, is kind of like that great reset
theory. Meaning that when we look at biblical
times and we see the Tower of Babel, like they
got so advanced and stopped focusing on God that
God destroyed it and started everything anew.
And I almost wonder if the world is really old
that at some point God's like, all right, let's
reset. Let's have a new society and start from
the beginning to refresh everything. I just wonder.
Yeah. Another interesting theory. When he talked
about the Tower of Babel, there was one theory
that at one point in time, because he said, God
destroyed the tower, confused the languages.
There is a theory humans at one point were able
to communicate via telepathy. I don't believe
it, but one of the theories is that when he destroyed
the tower, he destroyed the abilities for humans
to have this telepathy skill. And that's why
language was shattered and people, as they moved
away, they came up with their dialect. Again,
I don't believe it, but one of the claims on
Tartaria was that some of these structures, when
activated, would allow people to communicate
via telepathy. Again, not a believer in it. I
just, I found it to be interesting and fantastical,
and I thought I would throw it out there. Didn't
you send me an article where they have some device
where they think people are going to be able
to speak through telepy? Yeah. So I'll have to
look at it again, but just referencing my memory
brain bank had to do with the brain chip being
planted in. The stage one is to be able to talk,
to communicate to AI non -verbally. So you can
put this brain chip into your head and you have
conversations with AI. I also read some interesting
articles that they've diagnosed a new psychological
condition called AI psychosis, where people get
into lengthy chats with AI and they start to
develop psychotic. There's also this brain plant
in your head. And now there's a new psychological
condition called AI psychosis. So you spend all
your time talking to AI. There was an article
I read that people use it for therapy. They type
into the chat, whatever AI you like, and you
end up having this long discussion. And eventually
AI starts to pull you down deep waters and then
you start to develop psychosis. There's been
documented cases where kids end up taking their
own lives because AI is telling them how to do
it and they're not worth it. AI is a scary thing.
I don't think it is what we think. I think it
has its uses, but there's a dark side to it as
well. You said something about dinosaurs and
not really, you struggle with figuring out how
old the earth is. Another interesting theory,
and I tend to believe it, was that pre -flood
days. Because angels came down here, made it
with women, made giants. There's a pretty convincing
theory that not only did they mate with women,
that they were doing genetic experimentation
on animals and the dinosaurs were genetic experiments,
which would account for dinosaur bones and animals
that large. It's just a pure corruption of what
God's creation was meant to be. And they were
doing everything in their power to keep man from.
having their birthright from God. That's interesting.
I haven't heard of that theory before. Yeah,
man. We'll have to do an episode on it. It's
pretty convincing. And it all has to do with
the fact that the angels came down. They wanted
to pollute man's gene pool. in order for Christ
not to be able to come. Yeah, we could talk about
that one all night. So we'll have to say that
for a different show. It's a good one to dig
in. We go back to the crux of our conversation.
What do you think Tatari was? What do you think
the Tatarian people were? To me, they probably
looked like the Mongolian empire. perhaps mixed
with some Chinese, perhaps influenced by Genghis
Khan. But there's a lot of confliction out there.
So what are the Tatarians to you? I think they're
a homogenized group of Mongols, Western Asians,
Eastern Europeans that came together and had
a civilization. And I don't think it was particularly
powerful, but I think it was powerful enough
that people would recognize them. There was no
real fear. We talked about Rome falling apart
and the Mongols had a pretty vast empire. I think
it was just what was left of the Mongol empire
and it finally came apart the late 1700s. So
it was given like a cursory note in history.
They weren't major influences. Everybody knew
that they were there back then. But after the
Mongolian empire fell, there wasn't a whole lot
to talk about anymore. That was just the last
bastion of that empire before it was absorbed
by Russia, China, whoever else. Do you think
that they made it to America? and had influence
and built the White House and were involved in
Egypt and the pyramids. Do you think it was some
vast and global empire or perhaps just relegated
to that corner of the world? No, I think this
is again where people conflate issues. I think
some of these structures, whether or not these
structures were here in the U .S., I tend to
believe that, again, when Noah's flood happened,
the civilization that was here pre -flood was
more advanced than we are now. Not advanced in
the same way, but I think they were more inclined
to use stone, something that would last forever.
We live in stick houses that... If you don't
take care of them in 50 years, they're falling
over. So I think these ornate, beautiful buildings,
and I do think there's ancient technology that
we're just now starting to understand or maybe
haven't even had a chance to understand yet.
As we start to repopulate the world, we started
taking down. I think the mud flood was just a
flood. And I think as we discovered these buildings,
we cleaned them up. We slapped. I established,
I founded this building in 1821. I want to take
credit for it because I want to be known in history.
And I think there's a lot of buildings that are
from pre -slot. That's fair. Ultimately, history
is told by the victors. For a long time, people
didn't understand what Tartari was. It was relegated
to a corner of their world. People marked it
on a map. They never actually visited them. They
didn't go out there and see what these people
were. As time went on, people's mind grew curious
and they started interacting with these folks.
I don't see a lot of evidence to say that they
created the pyramids, had influence on American
culture, built the White House or had these famed
inventions. I can appreciate the fantastical.
We all want to talk about free energy and the
great government conspiracy to cover it up so
the bad guy can take advantage of us. I think
that's plausible, but perhaps I don't know that
this society was the one. What I do think is
that we live in a world that ultimately gets
reset. I think Every generation is not greater
than before. There are some advancements and
some advanced societies that lived back in the
day that were better than us, that were smarter
than us. We can see a lot of that with Aristotle
and all these great minds that were back in the
day. Albert Einstein that led to the invention
that ultimately built upon. I think a lot of
that ultimately gets erased with time. As much
as one day that I go to my grave, a lot of the
stuff I say, unless it's recorded, my podcast
is still kicking. People are going to forget
about it. They're going to forget about all the
things I did in law enforcement or business or
what have you. Ultimately, I think the history
is written by the victors. The people that are
going to remember you are the people that love
you. That's all that matters. We want to think
about aliens and spaceships and all these really
cool stuff. That's fun to keep our minds busy,
but it's not what's important. I don't side with
Anatoly Fomoko. And I don't side with Nikolai
Leshov. I think they have ulterior motive. I
think they want to say, Hey, we control the world.
Just want to tell you, give me some credibility
as I invade you. I just don't see it. There is
some evidence out there. I think the great mud
flood was everybody has this kind of world ending
world resetting theory. And I think there's only
one that. actually exist and evidence exists
for it, which is Noah's flood as caused by God
of resetting this world because of the nephephelium
and the fallen angels disrupting everything.
I would love to believe in some of this stuff.
I just don't, but I think there's always grains
of truth mixed in there. Were they people? Probably.
Did they make some important discoveries? Likely.
Did they do some good things? Most likely. But
the fact that they don't exist and nobody knows
a whole heck of a lot about them, I think that's
fate. and perhaps for the best. You said something
about one generation isn't necessarily superior
to the other. I actually argue that we're devolving
those humans. As long as we're sicker, we rely
on AI to do our homework now. We have to ask
a computer if, you know, what's 25 times 125.
There were people 100 years ago that could do
all this stuff in their head. People that made
great works of literature. Now people write a
book in AI and try to sell it. We don't know
right from left, up from down. This was a great
empire that was worldwide. Regardless of whether
or not you control history, yes, victories dictate.
I think there's enough historical evidence to
suggest that Europe, Asia had pretty vast histories
and other than being in the margins, Tartari
is other than. Being in the margins, there's
nothing to suggest that they were anything other
than just another country. I said, remnants of
the Mongol Empire, an empire that was eventually
absorbed. I think so much of what we see, so
much of what we dig up points back to flood,
fallen angels, Nephilim, genetic experimentation.
And I do think free energy exists. If I'm a billionaire
and I made my money from selling petroleum, why
would I not buy it? I'll give you 20 million.
Go live a life. I'll take your water car for
me. Like you're happy, who cares? That's a great
point. A lot to think about tonight. You want
to bring us home? Yeah. Thank you so much for
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