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Let's crack it open. 5G, to most people, it's
just another little icon on their phone screen.
A new bar of service, maybe faster downloads,
maybe not. But the truth is 5G has been marketed
as so much more than that. We're talking about
the fifth generation of cellular networks, the
technology that's supposed to be the backbone
of the future. Now think about it, cars that
drive themselves and a need to communicate in
milliseconds to avoid collisions like we see
in Teslas. Doctors performing surgery from thousands
of miles away, their hands mirrored by by romantic
arms with no lag. Entire cities build on connected
sensors, streetlights, power grids, transit systems,
all talking to each other in real time. That's
the dream of 5G, speed, reliability, capacity.
The ideal that it could transform society's self,
not just how fast you can stream Netflix on a
bus, but you also get fears just as large. Some
of those fears live on the fringe, where conspiracy
theories thrive. You probably remember when people
claimed 5G towers were spreading COVID -19. Some
even set those towers on fire. perhaps worse,
that it's a tool for mind control and mass surveillance.
Those theories might sound extreme, but they
caught fire online, especially in moments when
trust in government and institutions was really
fraying. And then there are the more mainstream
concerns, the ones that don't sound like science
fiction, but are just as unsettling. Building
a 5G network requires dense infrastructure with
towers and small cells everywhere, raising questions
about cost, privacy, and surveillance. The US
and China have fought bitterly over who controls
the technology because whoever builds the pipes
controls the flow of data. And with faster, deeper
connections, the potential for governments and
corporations to watch us, to monetize us only
grows stronger. So when we talk about 5G, it's
not just about faster speeds on your phone. It's
about power. Who has it, who loses it, and what
the future looks like when the infrastructure
of connection itself is up for grabs. So Jay,
let me ask you a question. When you hear the
word 5G, do you think... We're looking at really
a genuine revolution or just another layer of
control dressed up as progress. So that's a great
question. I honestly think like with any technology,
they release it to you with these grandiose promises
of enlightenment, making your life better, faster,
easier, but ultimately it's, it ends up being
used to control you. I think GE is great. We
have it on our phones and it gives great internet
service. We can stream video effortlessly. We
can listen to our podcasts. podcasting is good,
but I think a part of the control grid that they're
going to be building here probably in the next
five to 15 years. But yeah, so that's where I'm
at with it. What I think I want to preface this
conversation with is 5G and what actually it
is, is our customers understand what we're talking
about. I think 5G sounds like some mysterious
new force floating in the air, but at its core,
it's really simple. It's radio waves. the same
kind of invisible waves that carry music to your
car radio or connect your wifi. The only difference
really is that frequency, particularly what station
your phone and tower tuned into. I think about
it like this. 5G mostly use lower bass notes.
They travel far and push through walls, but they
don't carry as much information. 5G adds the
higher like treble -like notes. They carry way
more data, but they don't travel as far and can
get blocked through like these buildings and
trees and rain that you see. That's why 5G really
needs a lot more antennas, not just a few giant
towers that you see in the distance, but many
towers that are spread over rooftops and cross
streets. And you start to see these towers pop
up everywhere, smaller in size, but they increase
the density of the way the frequencies are traveling.
Now, when we see these start to pop up and maybe
back in the day, a radio tower is up and you
didn't pay much mind because you're driving down
the road and you had to sell your tower there,
perhaps it was getting lost in the sauce with
electrical grid. But now you're seeing these
things everywhere. And as you were sharing with
me pre -show, you showed me this sign and we
concluded on our website, but it was a sign that
says these 5G devices can actually cause harm.
And a lot of people are saying that is making
them sick. Early stages it was connected to COVID
-19, but I still think there's some real theory
where it could actually still cause you some
medical harm. Maybe not COVID -19, but perhaps
some type of other illness. Just like holding
your phone that's probably carrying 5G cellular
service when you're not connected to the phone
satellites. They say don't play. place it near
your groin. Like I used to stick it under my
leg when I would drive my car all the time. Like
they say, it can cause cancer. That's not just
the battery in the phone. It's all the signals
that are constantly passing through it. Much
like when we were kids, they say, don't stand
in front of the microwave because it would cause
cancer. It's all these invisible rays, all these
invisible beams that are occurring that really
messing up with your body's ecosystem and making
you sick. So I do think there's some reality
behind this. And more importantly, it's right
in our face. Like you could have these 5G towers
anywhere. Have you seen any research where folks
are complaining about getting sick from these
radio towers? Yeah, I actually watched an interesting
YouTube video and it was a bunch of scientists.
I think they were testifying. I sent you the
link so we can put it in the show notes, but
they were talking about the possibility of some
of these radio frequency waves giving people
cancer. There's also some evidence that it can
kind of mess with your brain waves a bit, which
is interesting. But I'm sitting in my house right
now. I have a cell phone next to me. I'm talking
to you on my laptop, which is connected to wifi.
I guarantee you, 95 % of my neighbors have the
same setup going through their house. So I almost
feel like you can't even walk through your neighborhood
or drive through your city without being blasted
by a ton of these waves. You're just constantly
bombarded with it. We can get down the rabbit
hole a little bit further, but I think that the
next step, which is I think scary, is 6G. And
we can touch on G a little bit down the line
of the show, but I think 5G is just that first
step to kind of transition over to that 6G. I
think once you get to the 6G, we're talking about
The ability for them to like project holograms
to really get super in depth with the autonomous
driving. A lot of this technology is really set
up for factory use, the autonomous factories,
the robots that built the cars or whatever else.
And these waves can travel two to 3000 feet.
So that's why even that's about a half a mile,
give or take. I was watching some stories about
them putting these 5G towers on every other phone
pole, like two, 300 feet apart. And like you
said, it's is better for. urban close knit environments.
But the benefit of it is like you said, the speed
is very little latency and it has a ton of capacity
to use support a lot of devices and users during
it. And I guess the one thing that they promote
is that it's energy efficient. There's that kind
of narrative where you're trying to save earth
and prevent climate change and save you money.
Like they always put something in there to make
you feel good about yourself, to make you think
you're going to save a few bucks. When reality
with all these AI plants going up, your water
bill is going to skyrocket just to keep the service
cool. bill is going to skyrocket because there's
going to be so much demand on the system that
you're going to be paying stupid amounts of money.
Like none of this is for our good. Unless you're
Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos and you want a completely
connected and controlled world. And you have,
you have billions of dollars that you don't have
to worry about any of this crap. Yeah. It's always
the climate perspective, unless it comes to profiting.
A lot of people say, and Sam Altman said himself,
is that every prompt you put into ChatChiefPT
requires a tablespoon of water. That's how much.
they go through for every single time you ask
ChatGPT a question. Now you scale that over millions
of users, send in props to the system thousands
of times a day, like we're going through some
water and that's not good for the climate, but
nobody cares about it because it helps them.
Yeah. Yeah. It was actually, when we talk about
the health impacts that we hear, I was talking
to one of my doctor friends online and just trying
to do some preliminary research in reference
to the topic. And I asked him, like, have you
ever heard of anything that would, gee, would
make people sick? Cause I was telling him about
some of the conspiracy theories were out there.
He said that there was nothing really proven,
but there's a lot of probabilities. And one of
the things he, sensitivity, he said that some
people report headaches, fatigue, sleep disturbances
or. dizziness when exposed to wifi. He said 4G
or 5G, the World Health Organization classifies
it as a, like a reported condition. Studies haven't
found consistent evidence that radio waves would
directly cause these systems. But he says people
feel it and it's really a perception that kind
of fuels those fears. And in fact, I remember,
I think it's somewhere in West Virginia. There
is actually a community that has no wifi because
there's all these people that... have electromagnetic
hypersensitivity. So they coordinate off, like
they turn it into this vault where they don't
have the signals and they have the old school
telephones and no real cellophones. The other
thing he says is cancer concerns. He said the
International Agency of Research on Cancer or
the IARC classifies radio frequencies and electromagnetic
fields as possible carcinogen to humans. Because
that research goes back to 2011. He said the
same category is in the kind of the same category
as like vegetables and coffee that are mass produced,
like through fire. So a lot of carcinogens are
leans towards things that are being burnt. Like
those are the carcinogens. Like when you smoke
a cigarette, the carcinogens are the burnt tobacco
that you actually inhale. But that though they
say it's possible to cause cancer. He says still
there's not enough information out there that
actually do, but that's one of the reasons why
they plaster it on 5G devices. Cause it is a
possible carcinogen that could cause cancer.
And the next thing he said is fertility and development.
He goes, some animal studies suggested possible
effects of long -term high -level exposure on
sperm quality in the embryonic development. He
goes, is these really debated? They feed into
the claims that 5G could really affect reproductive
health. And lastly, he mentioned skin heating.
He goes, D, especially at higher like millimeter
wave frequencies, is absorbed mostly by the skin
and the outer layers of the eye. He goes, critics
worry that long -term dense exposure might cause
localized heating. It was official limits are
set far below harmful levels, but the concept
of energy heating the skin is what like most
people talk about. That's what they fear. Just
talking to him briefly, it's somebody I've known
for 10 years, but talking to him briefly, it's
pretty interesting. They're starting to hear
about all these health benefits that are known
in the medical community, but I bet they didn't
tell you that when they installed your internet
router at your home. Yeah, man. It's, it's a
little bit suspect, like per usual, like you,
you type in the Google or whatever AI system.
to me you like to use. And it says WHO finds
no consistent evidence of cancer or all these
negative side effects. But the word that sticks
out to me is consistent. So when you say that,
then you know, there have been studies done and
there's hundreds of scientists out there that
have evidence and proof that these G waves, especially
in the areas that are super dense with these
towers can actually kill trees, kill bugs, harm
the human body. Cancer has exploded in the past
20, 30 years. And what kind of came around? in
the past 20, 30 years, cell phones, all this
technology, this internet. And it's interesting
on that YouTube video I watched, the guy held
up a brochure from Verizon and the Verizon brochure
warrants of potential. Electromagnetic radiation.
And when you sign this, these terms and contracts
that you don't hold them liable for potentially
getting sick. So why would you put that in there?
If it was completely safe, it's not like a TV.
You don't have a contract with your TV saying
before you buy this TV, you have to, because
it's not really admitting it's got Bluetooth
and you can hook it up to wifi, but it's really
just projecting light. But all of these towers
are sending out these 24 to a hundred gigahertz
signals. And part of me thinks because 5g kind
of works on three different bands. It works on
like a low band. which is like less than a gigahertz.
So I doubt you're going to experience a lot of...
issues around that. Most of the activity happens
on like the one to six gigahertz range. And then
they have a high level range of 24 to 100 gigahertz.
So they kind of ramp this up and down depending
on what they're doing. And you see the 5G warning
stickers all over the towers and you're not allowed
to work on them unless you have some sort of
RF protection because the higher you crank it
up, the more you can get burned. Like if you
were to stick your hand in a microwave or something,
like it's just going to travel through your body
and it's going to just like x -rays. They travel
through your body. If you get exposed to enough
in a short period of time, like He ended up developing
cancer. It breaks down your DNA. It causes alterations.
I don't know, man. This stuff's pretty scary.
I think there's probably other technologies that
could be used to not really put us at that kind
of exposure. Yeah. These, one of the things you
told me is you need protection. It'd be interesting
to understand like how close you need to be to
these towers in order to start to don this protective
gear. And it reminds me of a story. It occurred
in 19. A woman in Sacramento claimed she could
hear of G towers. Like she could hear the buzzing
that was coming. off of them. Not just really
in a sense of hearing the equipment humming,
but that her body picked up their frequencies
like an antenna. She's described nights where
her ears rang with the electronic buzz. Her skin
prickled. She felt a constant low grade panic
as if she was like standing next to this giant
speaker nobody else could really hear. She wasn't
alone. Online forums are really filled with people
calling themselves EMF refugees, claiming they
have to live in cabins, deserts, or these old
mining towns just to gape. what they described
as this constant invisible storm. And that kind
of reminds me, it's like, how close do you need
to be? Because some of these radio towers, especially
as we expanded into 5G, they're at a greater
density within a square mile. And how close is
safe? Like, how close is safe for us? I don't
know if you know the answer to that. I don't.
Just wonder, should they be telling us where
they're putting these 5G towers? I think the
problem is that they just spring up overnight.
So they're putting them on top of telephone poles
in certain areas. I'm sure eventually the whole
entire United States is going to be covered with
them. every three, four hundred feet. But I was
listening to one guy talk on that podcast, I'm
sorry, on that YouTube video when he was talking
to the government and he was saying it's a variable
thing. So if like you're on the low band at one
gigahertz, you can be right up on it. Nothing's
really going to happen to you. But if you crank
that sucker up to a hundred gigahertz, you're
going to start burning. You're going to start
having the sensation on your skin. Like you said,
your eyes, you're going to have some sort of
interaction. So I think at the moment, like everything
is between that, in that mid band, like between
one and six gigahertz. Not a ton of output, but.
What happens if someone cranks that up? What
happens if somebody decides, okay, these people
are out of control. Let's crank it up and just
make them all feel crazy or feel this sensation.
And it was interesting. I was listening to some
Israeli guy give a speech about 5G. And he was
saying that, I think the way that the mil - you
ever hear of the microwave guns that the military
uses to kind of disperse crowds? He was saying
right around 90 gigahertz, they noticed that
they pointed this at people. They would start
burning and they run away. And as soon as they
got outside of the range of the frequency, they
were essentially fine other than they were tripped
out as to what the heck just happened. So they
know the frequency range of which they need to
apply to cause somebody some distress. But he
was saying typically around a hundred feet if
it's cranked up, if it's cranked up to a hundred
gigahertz, then a hundred feet, you're going
to start feeling some weird sensations. So essentially
we have giant weapons dispersed throughout our
neighborhood. And as much as I've seen that the
Chinese are hacking our infrastructure, I wonder
if somebody could hack into these towers, change
the frequency to cause real damage to folks.
It's interesting in the espionage perspective.
because Highway is a big company in China. They're
the biggest manufacturer of 5G equipment. Most
of the stuff we get is from China. Again, there
you go. And it's known that there's backdoor
kill switches in these. So what happens if there's
a war? You just flip the switch. All your 5G
towers are down. Now you're not communicating.
Now you're not making phone calls unless you've
hooked a satellite. It's scary. If you're broadcasting
the signal, I find it hard to believe you can't
tell what the people are using the signal for.
Like we have all kinds of AI now. There's all
kinds of data servers that are tracking all your
cookies. and all your website history, probably
recording your phone calls. There's been countless
stories about the government, NSA, CIA, whoever.
And I'm sure if we got it, Britain has it, Chinese
have it, Israelis have it. They can just, they
can just slip on in and look at your phone, take
control without you even knowing it, listening
to your phone conversations. It's just, it's
nuts, man. We like to talk about the one world
order. And this is a way just to exert control
and make sure your populace is obeying and doing
what you tell them to do. And if not, let's crank
up that five or six. Well, I think the real weapon
is 6G. Let's crank it up and burn them up a little
bit, make them feel well and comfortable. It
reminds me of the predator we used in law enforcement.
That was his code name for it. But essentially
it was this antenna that we use, like this handheld
kind of antenna thing. It looked like you would
beam a signal to. We would carry it around and
track people on their cell phones and it would
give a close proximity. Back in the day, and
we're talking a long time ago now, because I've
been out of law enforcement for eight, nine years,
but I could say if I was trying to track you
down, Jay. And I didn't know where, and maybe
I knew where you live, but I was trying to execute
a search warrant and I was just looking for you
as a person. I could take the predator, go down
the street, scan it. And it would be such a high
accuracy that I could say, you're in the top
level of your house. So if I'm knocking on your
door to arrest you, you're not answering the
door. I would take the information from the predator,
go write a search warrant and I would kick in
your front door and go get you. And it would
always track the people down. At least it would
track the phone down. A lot of that had to do
with mobile bands that were bouncing off like
radio towers and different things. Some of it,
as I started seeing in corporate as I was getting,
it was tracking the 5G signals that were on people's
cell phone as well. Yeah. No, man. That's, I
had never heard about that. That's pretty interesting.
What do you make of the highway or I don't know
how you say that. Highways company in China making
all the G transmitters. Do you have any thoughts
on that? Chinese make very good products. As
I said, I lived in Hong Kong. I've traveled a
lot through China. They make very good products.
With that being said, they do steal a lot of
technology and they steal a lot of information.
I remember trying to trans... for the border
many times because there's different set of roles
in Hong Kong versus mainland China. And because
I was an executive at my company, they would
always stop and search me. I would spend so long
trying to cross the border because they wanted
to dump the contents of my laptop. And every
time I would do it, I'd make sure I bring a dummy
laptop so I would have no information on it,
nothing they could steal. And they eventually
figured it out and they'd get so pissed off at
me because I would sit there for three hours
trying to hop the border and they couldn't get
anything off of me. I think all Chinese devices,
at least to some extent, stint or manufactured
with some form of spyware. And they're not the
only country that does it. But I think it's,
it can be consistently compromised if you're
getting a device from China. And I think they
could weaponize it against us if we were ever
to go to war, which is significant. It's not
the only country. Like I said, talking to one
of my friends that was former CIA back in the
day, he goes, just like Air France. He's like,
if you took a flight on Air France and you were
going to Paris or wherever you were going and
you said in first class, every first class seat
was bugged. They were listening to everybody's
conversation and recording it so that they could
duplicate it. And France, right behind China
was the most people that stole information from
citizens. And they do it to boost their GDP,
to be able to sell it. Amazon was compromised
and China eventually run out of town by Alibaba
as a direct replication of Amazon. And it was
because they stole so much data and were able
to just make the product their own. So I think
just because there's so much corporate espionage
that is occurring there and a lot of it as like
state -sponsored that you can just assume those
devices you are getting have some type of spyware
or remote access available to it. Yeah. You're
talking about Jack Ma from Alibaba. Something
happens trying to did something to that guy.
He like just up and disappeared for. years and
years, like he was pretty famous there for a
bit. And I don't know. I think, I think China
told him to get lost. Yeah. So apparently like
he gave some speech and then China decided to
pose like a regulatory crackdown on businesses.
And yeah, Jack Ma, I guess he got, he was criticizing
China's regulations and banks and he just up
and like just disappeared. We'll have to look
more into that story, but I remember some, some
chatter about that. Yeah. He up and disappeared
and then he returned on scene and fell in line.
Because if not, he was probably going to lose
his company. The reason why I know him is because
I know Alibaba very well. Even here in the United
States, when I was working at my former company,
they were the largest builder of data centers
in the world. But at times we had our independent
data centers and then we had data centers in
co -located places. Co -located means is that
this company A would have a data center in it.
It'd be like this caged off environment. The
next door would be a separate company, Apple
or Google or whoever. It was just feeding off
the fiber lines and my... services that they
were producing at that time. But what was always
interesting is at the company that I worked for
right next door, Alibaba always showed up. So
they're right next to our data center through
these cages. And as we were doing the security
inspections, they had all their cameras pointed
inside, like trying to point inside our facility.
They had microphones up that were trying to record
anything that employees were talking in there.
And we had to defend against this. We were always
trying to block their cameras, trying to mute
their microphones. We came with policies where
you couldn't talk inside because they were just
I think the only purpose for them to be there
was to collect information. And that's what you're
seeing from a lot of these companies, like the
cell phone manufacturer that came out of China,
as well as it's not allowed to be sold in the
United States. They shut down that production
because all of their cell phones, which were
really cool. It was like the latest iPhone one
gazillion and about a quarter of the price. And
it functioned greatly because it was basically
a ripoff product. But on top of it, it had all
this spyware and bloatware and things to eavesdrop
on you. So none of your conversations were secure.
And you usually see those trending analysis that
when it comes out of the government, because
how it was first stopped, like government employees
couldn't use this cell phone provider and eventually
trickled into corporate executives and then eventually
prevent it from entering the United States. But
yeah, Jack Ma is an interesting character. Who
knows what he's been through over there, but
I think he fell into line to keep his good fortune.
Yeah, I bet. You want to touch on some of the
conspiracy series in 5G? Yeah, absolutely. I'll
go ahead and start with the first one. And it's
probably the most popular and controversial.
G activated the... COVID virus or, and or G was
the tool to set off the vaccine. So when you
got the vaccine for the COVID scare, there was
a lot of conspiracy theories going around that
these new 5G towers are going to activate whatever's
in that vaccine and kill you or make you crazy
or make you do something that you otherwise wouldn't
do. Yeah. So the specific conspiracy theory that
I heard was vaccines plus G microchip kind of
control where COVID vaccines were secretly implemented
with microchips. microchips and those said microchips
connected to 5G, which allowed governments and
corporations to track and control people to be
able to study them, which is a fascinating theory.
But I've also seen, like you look at the vaccine,
like files of different people get inoculated
online and stuff. And those computer ships must
be really small. And I don't know that we have
that nanotechnology, unless it's just publicity
online too. And it's like a covert op to show
the pictures online that don't have the computer
chips in them. Yeah, I think the theory was that
it was like nanotechnology. Like these chips
or whatever were like so microscopic that you
really couldn't even find them. You'd be very
hard pressed to find them under a microscope.
What is interesting is that 5G was rolled out
in 2019. So I can see how people can draw those
conclusions. Like, oh, they were big push for
5G in 2019. Artfully, it really wasn't studied
all that well. It almost seems like sometimes
they come up with a cool technology and they're
like, wow, I can make internet faster. I can
make communication faster. Let's just roll it
out without really studying. Like the vaccine
a little bit. And it coincides with the 2019
pandemic. So one of the theories is that they've
fired up a 5G tower in Wuhan and then it activated
the virus and that's how it started to spread.
Yeah. I saw online, they coined the story the
night the towers burned. And this is how it goes.
In the spring of 2020, the world locked down
against COVID -19. A very different kind of fire
spread across Europe. In the UK alone, more than
90 cell towers were set ablaze between April
and May. attacks erupted in Netherlands, Ireland,
and Cyprus. They said the arsonists weren't just
vandals. They were acting on behalf of the belief
that 5G towers were either spreading the coronavirus
or weakening people's immune system. They said
on April 2nd, 2020, one of the first attacks
was recorded in Birmingham, UK. And video quickly
circulated online of the flames consuming a 70
-foot mast. And this goes to the believers. These
fires were an act of self -defense against these
invisible weapons. in the sky. And to outsiders,
it was just a panic that turned into arson. A
lot of people like to say the United States is
full of conspiracy theories, and we're a bunch
of weirdos over here in the US. But this specific
story is arsonists, you know, what they coined
as arsonists burning down these G towers, because
people literally believe that it was causing...
COVID -19 during that time. I don't know if it
did or didn't, but I think there are some real
health concerns with them. Yeah. I think a big
problem too is I do think if you're in close
enough proximity to like a 5G transmitter, or
if you spend a lot of, even if you don't live
next to one, but say you work next to one, I
do think it has a possibility of kind of jacking
your immune system up. And part of me thinks
when they got rolled out in 2019, we kind of
went through that whole pandemic. Maybe there
was some sort of latent virus that most of us
just didn't really have a good immune immunity.
before and it really made it a lot worse than
it really was supposed to be. But another interesting
thing though, so you, I want to go back to the
arsonist that you were talking about. If you
look up 5G towers like on TikTok or Instagram,
these things erupt in flames and explode all
the time. And it's also, I'm sure somebody somewhere
decided that I'm going to save my neighborhood
and burn the tower down. But a part of me thinks
that it was relatively new technology. They pushed
so many of them out so quickly all at once that
you know how it goes. You can't even get a house
built without something being jacked up in your
house and it's wood and dry. wall and some wires
something that advanced something that's brand
new I wonder if some of it just wasn't installed
well or the or the parts that they had in it
weren't up to spec meaning that I put part a
in here crap that part can't handle the heat
that this thing is putting out And so I would
venture to say that a lot of those fires were
just from the product being bad or from the installation
being poor. So I go with that 95 % were just
the towers catching fire on their own. And the
other 5 % were these people thinking that they're
trying to be a hero. Yeah. And I wonder if it
has something to do with this frequencies. Like
maybe they didn't have the frequencies set correctly,
which were also causing more damage as they were
trying to learn how close these towers need to
be together, how high the frequencies need to
be. I saw another story out of the Netherlands
that occurred in 2018. They said the people woke
to a bizarre and unsettling scene that hundreds
of dead starlings scattered across the city park,
which is a type of bird. Almost immediately,
rumors took root. It posts online that just days
earlier, a secret G test had just been conducted
nearby and the radiation had literally dropped
the birds out of the sky. Isn't that insane?
432 Hertz and it's been studied like that frequency
can cause agitation and anxiety so a lot of people
kind of tune their music to 528 or different
like more calming frequencies and apparently
this frequency change happened I don't know maybe
like a hundred years ago and nobody really knows
why there's conspiracy theories and that's again
for another show frequencies can really have
a profound undesirable effect on humans you're
not sure why are you feeling a certain way you're
not sure what's triggering certain emotions or
just certain high states of anxiety You're just
not feeling good. And there's been a lot of,
you ever hear like binaural beats and like hemisync
and all that. So people use this to help calm
people down or try to help your brain get in
certain wave states. Frequency is, humans are
very sensitive to it. And it makes me nervous
with this. this 24 to a hundred gigahertz like
floating around. Like you're not really sure
what you're passing through and you're not really
sure what the effects are. And I do think it
can have an effect on your immune system if you're
prone to that sort of sensitivity. Especially
if you're vulnerable groups, like the elderly
or young kids that may have like weaker or underdeveloped
immune systems. It seems like the harm to them
could even be more severe. I remember seeing
a news report where parents started protesting
because they literally tried to pit a 5G tower
on top of an Elementary School. And it's like,
why would you, even if there's a small risk,
like why would you put it near a vulnerable group?
Hey, a part of me wonders, we're so regulated
in this country and it seems like the regulation
is really just meant for the small business owner.
I feel like if you're a massive corporation and
you come out with some sort of technology, the
government's like, yeah, whatever, do whatever
you want. Let's see if it works. There's no regulation
for them. Other than like, you got to slap a
sign on it just in case. Maybe people should
stay away from it. But, and also you probably
see them down where you live, but I see it when
I drive down through Baltimore and like DC, like
what looks like massive pine trees. They look
like those fake temporary Christmas trees where
you put like the, like the branches on. But if
you look at them close enough, you'll see the
antenna coming out of them and they're designed
to look like trees that kind of to try to make
the environment look a little bit more clean.
I saw those. I saw that for the first time a
few years ago. I'm like, what the heck is that?
It just kind of blew my mind. Yeah, it's scary
stuff. And I just wish that there was more public
knowledge about the subject matter so that we
could weigh our risk. I feel like we're talking
most about Project Bluebeam now because it's
stuff you can't see, but it's impacting you and
it could potentially cause adverse side effects.
And as you mentioned, like it always seems there's
less regulation when you have money and power.
I know like a big fight in Maryland is the power
grid's collapsing because of the essentially
the Green New Deal that's been implemented in
Maryland. And my electric bill's $500 a month.
And we don't even use that much AC or anything
because it's just so constrained and they're
having to build new infrastructure to support
the power demands and a lot of what they're doing.
over here is just an eminent domain. Like they're
just taking people's property. They're building
these power lines and they're just going it.
And there's a lot of people in rural Maryland
that are fighting back against it. Just much
they did in Europe fighting back against these
5G towers and they're getting these workers sadly
just out there doing their job. They're getting
death threats. People are pulling guns on them
and they're threatening their lives to an hour.
The line workers go out there to install the
infrastructure have to be escorted by police
officers because they're just afraid to do their
jobs. So we're wasting resources to escort those
folks out there and do it. But it all comes back
to because the energy grid in Maryland is privately,
essentially privately owned. Like it's owned
by these corporations that have a lot of money,
a lot of power. They want to run up your electric
bill. And now the government's cooperating with
them to make sure. And obviously electricity
is needed and I want my power bills to go down,
but it still comes down to that power and control.
And they have the government supporting them
with long guns as they go out and install their
infrastructure. Yeah, up here, it's interesting.
So two big companies, two big AI companies are
buying massive properties around, around my town
here and they're installing AI servers. farms.
And that's a big deal economically around here.
So it's about to get super expensive because
those things take, like you said, take up a massive
amount of energy and a massive amount of power.
And another bizarre thing is Three Mile Island.
You remember the whole disaster that happened
like 40 years ago where one of the plants almost
melted down. They obviously restarted them. I
think they decommissioned the one that had a
meltdown, but they decommissioned the whole plant
like maybe two or three years ago. Now Microsoft
is buying one of the reactors is going to start
it up in order to power their server farms and
their AI. So it's about to get really expensive
here in central Pennsylvania in terms of water
and power. Like you said, power is already expensive
here, a lot more expensive than it was a decade
ago. Like we get our energy bill or the way it
works a little bit different here, but we get
all of our utilities in one bill, but it's still
400 bucks a month. I know it's summer and it's
hot and, but still, man, that's, that mounts
up pretty quick over time. And then with, like
I said, with all these AI farms coming here.
with all the power that's needed to make them
work. It's going to be nuts. You're getting to
a place where retired folks like mom and dad,
where it's almost like they can't afford to pay
their tax bill on their house, even if they own
it free and clear and like their utility bills,
like they almost need a job just to pay for those
things to survive. Even if their house for its
worth is paid off free and clear, the bank's
not the owner, they're the owner. They're going
to run against that wall. I seen it a lot. So
the DMV, which is like DC, Maryland and Virginia.
has the largest fiber line in the world that
runs through it. That's why we have the largest
density of data centers within this area. But
it has a lot to do with DC and the US government
that laid those fiber lines many years ago before
private enterprise purchased them. But there's
thousands of protests, none of them did any good,
where they built hundreds upon hundreds of data
centers within this area. I participated in the
build of over 25 data centers just in Northern
Virginia. Huge facilities, just ginormous facilities,
and they eat up so much electricity, they ruin
the power grid, they run up costs because of
supply and demand and water. Water is a big thing
because water cools the server farms. So it's
a big proponent. One of the big push backs I
remember when I first started at Amazon is government
push backs says you need to figure out something
with water. They didn't care about the electricity,
but they care about the water for whatever reason.
So they put a recirculating water system and
basically they use the water and then they reuse
the water. And they did the same thing for AC.
And because they didn't filter properly, actually
caught Legionnaires disease from sitting in my
office building during that time. And they're
like, actually, this is probably not a good idea.
So we're going to push back. And then there was,
oh, you don't need to use reclaimed water anymore.
So what do we want to talk about? politics, which
this show tries to steer away from it, but I
like the kind of conspiracy part of politics.
So there's this big push for limiting CO2 emissions,
not using oil, trying to use natural resources.
So essentially, you know, like not using coal.
Coal was a big thing up here in Pennsylvania
forever. And now it seems every four years they
shut down and they open back up whenever the
Republican gets in and Democrat gets in, they
do super, a ton of regulation, they shut down
again. And for like Northern way far out Northwest
of us, like. Those are good jobs for those people
because it's pretty sparsely populated. So it's
on and off, on and off. But to get to my point
is one, the government's telling you. We need
to be more practical and we don't need to use
fossil fuels. And then you have the other side
of the same branch saying we need to create all
these AI farms and all these server farms and
use all this power. Like where's it going to
come from? At one point in time, you can do one
or the other. Like you can't do clean energy
in server farms and AI. You can do, and if you
want server farms and AI, you better start pumping
the oil and making it cheap so nobody, you know,
goes broke in the process. But. It's just about
that tight squeeze. The only person being squeezed
is the little guy. The guy's in the middle. The
99 .1 % are always being squeezed. That .1%,
they don't care. It's also the government just
pins a, they spin the topic because a lot of
people talk about electric cars. They're great
for the environment. You can charge them at home.
You're not using natural resources. Everything's
great. But the research tells you that the mining
process of lithium in order to power the battery
operated cars is actually worse for the environment
than gasoline operated cars. It's out there,
but we've been spun that forever though. Electric
cars are the best for the environment. Everybody
should drive electric cars. And many things with
the past administration, they said everybody
should. And like by 2050, everybody's going to
have electric car. We're going to just shut down
cars, natural gasoline cars all together. It's
actually bullshit. Yeah. And once the battery
goes, like they buried underneath the ground
and compost heap and it's toxic for hundreds
of years. So it's not like oil where you burn
and the CO2, it comes out of CO2 and water. Like
the earth absorbs the CO2 and the water goes
back to the environment. Like you're burying
toxic waste for hundreds of years. It doesn't
make sense. Like the logic seems to go out the
door. They spend their narrative to make you
feel good about it and to get your buy -in, but
they never tell you the negative that's associated
with it, which is much worse than the negative
of fossil fuels. Plus lithium mines are run by
like slave labor, man. these poor kids in Africa
digging out lithium in mines. It just doesn't
make sense. But I watched another TikTok video,
whether or not it's true or not, we'll see. But
they were saying every car that was built in
2025 actually has 5G in the car. So now there's
cars driving around with 5G that's actually inside
of the hardware of the actual vehicle you're
driving. Mine does. That's crazy, man. So 5G
is everywhere. You can't get away from it. You
can't get away from it. And it's only going to
get worse. And I do want to dig into the 6G that
you were talking about, which I haven't heard
about yet what that's going to look like in principle.
One of the things I want to mention is, right,
like there always comes a standard setting session.
So we're talking about 5G's capabilities. And
then ultimately it comes down to why are we doing
this? It seemed like internet and everything
was pretty fast with 4G. Like why are we wasting
all this infrastructure to speed it up where
most people probably can't tell. watching TV
or... playing on your phone or whatever the case
may be. You may not notice a huge jump in the
difference between 4G and 5G, but ultimately
what it's empowering is smart devices, smart
cameras, smart infrastructure, smart highways.
I've seen like smart trash cans so people can
monitor it. And we're talking about really in
-depth surveillance technology. One of the things
that came to mind is Amazon who builds a lot
of doorbells, their ring doorbell camera. They
have a program called Sidewalk a few years ago.
And essentially it is. automatically or joined
a sidewalk, but if you didn't realize it, like
you can say, no, I don't want to be a part of
that program. But what it does is actually share
signals between devices so that you can extend
your infrastructure. So you could have a doorbell
camera at your fence line, even though your personal
wifi router wouldn't reach there. But what comes
from that and Amazon got a lot of heat for this.
I don't know if they still do it, but Back in
the day, Ring used to share their surveillance
footage with law enforcement, where law enforcement
would affect arrest and search warrants and identifying
people based on camera footage that a lot of
people didn't even know were being shared in
the first place. So now with the 5G, it's empowering
the surveillance society that we have today.
And it makes me think about, we talked about
an earlier episode, but are we getting closer
to what China is doing? Where you drive too fast,
it monitors you and if you get from point A to
point - B they just shoot a speeding ticket.
Yeah, I think this all kind of leads into the
15 minute city and smart city, man. Those are
scary to me. Again, they try to sell it as like
this nice, I'm just going to put it in my words,
like nice socialist, dystopian. It's really driven
by the WEF, the world economic forum and Klaus
Schwab, even though he's not the head of it anymore,
he retired this year. But there is a big push
to make some of these big cities, especially
like New York and places in Europe and even some
smaller areas into these 15 minute cities. Essentially,
like you said, they're smart cities. I think
they're interchangeable. So they're going to
have a ton of five or six G towers. Essentially
they don't want you to really be able to drive.
They want you to be able to walk or bike everywhere.
They want everything. They want all data. They
try to say, we'll protect your privacy, but we're
going to share data. So like you said, back to
the ring cameras or the whatever surveillance
system you have. So they have access to all of
it. And it's just, it's going to turn into some
weird dystopia socialist dystopia where you have
no freedom. They're going to limit the amount
of food and what kind of food. you eat. Even
the WEF is saying that people shouldn't be eating
meat. You should be going on an all vegetable
diet or we should be eating lab -grown meat.
And again, this all points back to like climate
change and it gets to the point where they're
trying to control everything you do. They're
trying to lock you down into 15 minutes. How
far can you walk? Like three, four miles. If
you're really at a good pace, like they want
you in that small of an area. That's not freedom,
man. Yeah. Did you know that cowls farts ruin
the environment? I've heard that from like leftist
a lot of the time. And they coined the phrase
live, work, play to try to sell you a dream.
You can live in one place. You can walk down
the street, go to work and then I'll buy. the
way you could go to your local bar or movie theater,
restaurant, all within walking distance. It wouldn't
be great. It would be like a city, like where
most people live and not in the country. So they
sell you that. Obviously I lived one of those
when I worked for the government, I lived in
Reston, Virginia in the town center. It was fantastic.
But you start to dig into the facts. And at that
point in time, I was much younger. But as you
dig into the facts, sometimes it may be a net
benefit, but it's also about control. If you're
trying to control a demographic and you don't
want them to leave or spread or change ideology.
or persuade votes or whatever the case may be,
you want to kind of lock them into a district
and be able to control their movements and monitor
them. And I think that's what a lot of it comes
down to, is being able to monitor and control
the population. Guess what year the G20 proposed
this Smart City Alliance thing. Just take a wild
guess. You might be shocked. 2020. 2019. When
5G came out, right? When the pandemic started.
So 5G came out in 2019. The Smart City Initiative
came out in 2019. COVID came out in 2019. Sometimes
this is just my fantastical brain trying to draw
probably not good conclusions, but was the lockdown
a way to get his, was the lockdown a way to get
his, like the initial train of, yeah, you just
want to stay in your house and you can go to
the store and go get gas, but. You're just gonna
spend the rest of time in your house and nothing
else. Yeah. It reminds me of a story, a Smart
City story that I was reading. It's based in
Toronto, announced a bold partnership with Google
Sidewalk Labs. It was supposed to be this like
futuristic Smart City on the waterfront. Streets
were heated in the winter, sensors tracking air
quality, even trash cans that notified sanitation
when they were full. But almost immediately locals
begin whispering, who really owns this city?
privacy advocates warned it was like a surveillance
experiment disguised as urban planning. And public
meetings really got angry. By 2020, the project
collapsed under the accusation that it was a
city built to harvest data and not house people.
I think that cancellation is really proof that
smart cities are this kind of Trojan horse ready
to cage citizens in and these like invisible
net. Yeah, like another interesting point when
I was digging around like 2030. So premise behind
that is that the powers that be. want the government
to control 30 % of the land of America by 2030.
And then by 2050, they want the government to
own and control 50 % of the land. If you control
30 or 50 % of the land in the United States,
that's a lot of space where people don't live.
And I know some of the biggest Buyers of land
and houses are Blackrock. Like they're gobbling
up every house they can get their hand on. Why?
You're a huge multi -trillion dollar company.
Like why are you buying a single family home
or apartment buildings? And then Bill Gates,
apparently he bought, he owns 300 ,000 acres
of farmland and that statistic was back from
23. So who knows how much more he's bought in
the last two years. It's some of these big multinational
conglomerates are just buying up land and just
holding onto land and houses and just holding
onto the assets. either not selling or selling
at such a high price that the inventory is just
tanked and people are going to be forced to move
into these cities that have apartments and smaller
housing units. And that way they can monitor
and control you. Yeah. I remember me and my wife
were buying our first house together in the Northern
Virginia region. That's when like prior to, I
want to say the housing market crash, but prior
to COVID and stuff occurring or right around
there. And competition for these houses were
very stiff. And we were getting outbid on, we
would put in 10 grand over asking price. And
we were getting outbid by hundreds of thousands
of dollars, where it was just like, you want
to make a rebid on this property? No, we can't
afford that. We can't afford a hundred thousand
dollars more than our price mark. And what it
turned out was is these major corporations coming
in there and buying these homes. Many times they
would hold them. Most of the time they would
buy them so they could turn around and rent them
right back to you. You could rent the property.
now for an astronomical value. And that's how
they were making their money. Like they're just
holding all these properties, but it was so difficult
to purchase a house during that time because
we were just getting out, like you asked $800
,000 for your house. Then somebody comes in and
says, I'll give you 1 .4 million. Okay. And it,
yeah, we must have put in 50 houses before we
finally got ours. Yeah, it's nuts ever since
2019, the house. my wife and kids live in like
it's almost doubled in value what's that been
five six years that's nuts like you never saw
that kind of You never saw that kind of growth.
It's just, it's all about, it's pretty simple,
like macroeconomics, like supply and demand.
If someone's buying up all the supply and the
demand remains relatively unchanged, like everything's
going to skyrocket. And it doesn't help with
property taxes and interest rates and all that
stuff. Even if the Fed did cut interest rates,
properties are still unaffordable for most people.
And another part of the supply problem is my
wife and I have talked about selling our place.
But it's okay. So we're going to sell our house.
We'll make a good bit of money off of it, but
we're going to turn around and buy something
that's going to be super expensive and unaffordable
too. So why not just stay here? We have a good
interest rate. Like why roll into six or 7 %
interest rate? Like it's just, so a lot of people
are in the same boat. Like why would I sell?
I'm going to buy, I could probably buy something
bigger, but not much bigger, not much nicer for
hundreds of thousands of dollars more. Not to
mention the high interest rate. So let's just
hold onto it until hopefully something breaks.
Yeah, it's almost a net scratch even at this
juncture because as much money as you're making
off your house, the next person is as well, and
you're going to pay that price. And with the
interest rates, those are gold because the higher
the interest rate, the more informal the property
is going to be as well. Right. Yeah. It's just
like there's an invisible hand that we don't
see, but we can see its shadow. Just moving these
pieces around like again, squeeze and squeeze.
It almost feels like a When we talk about elections
or... or technology. One of the things I think
about is FG is really just a precursor. It's
to enable other smart devices that either can
monitor, control, or cost as money to be able
to use. Cars are driving themselves, right? Through
automation, AI, and technology. Doctors are performing
remote surgeries. They're monitoring everything
that we do. And when they say the monitoring
is just for progress, to make your life easier,
that's just the, in my opinion, the shit sandwich
they're trying to sell you. And at some point,
that's going to turn. So we're seeing obviously
that technology is making us sick. We're seeing
a lot of crazy smart technology, depending on
what side of the fence you live in, if it's a
net negative or a net positive, but even our
interactions. You ever heard of the dead internet
theory? Yeah, it's a pretty fun one to tell us.
Yeah. So the dead internet theory is really this,
what they call a fringe conspiracy theory that
claims most of the internet is no longer driven
by real human activity, but bots, algorithms,
and AI generated content. According to this ideal.
The majority of posts, comments, videos, and
even news articles online are fake, automated
and manipulated by governments, corporations,
and advanced AI systems. The core claims of this
theory is that a decline of authentic web activity.
Our opponents argue that sometime in the mid
2010s... often cited around 2016, 2017, just
barely pre -COVID. The internet stopped being
a place dominated by real people. Instead, bots
and automated systems began to flood forums for
media and content platforms. This was like controlling
narratives. They claim these bots are used to
shape public opinion, distract people, and suppress
dissenting ideals. And then they say the AI -generated
content, or at least some version, suggests that
much of what we consume online, articles, videos,
memes, you have it. It's not really made by people,
it's made by AI and that kind of the vanishing
of the old internet often points to nostalgia,
to how forums and communities that once felt
more genuine, if you got on a Reddit forum and
talk to people, compared to today's algorithm
driven feeds, almost feels fake. And what I can
say is through my career, what I can tell you
is that about 50 % of what's on social media
is AI bot generated, regardless if you're corresponding
with them or not. I compact a lot. of cheating
things online through my current company. Some
of the things that they can do, AI call centers.
You see them AI drive -throughs. You think you're
talking to somebody, but in reality, you're not.
You're talking to a bot. So it sounds like a
human. If you ever see Eleven Labs and listen
to some of their like voice tech, it sounds like
real people if you were to like write the right
narrative, which most people are writing the
right narrative with chat GPT enabled content.
So they blend those together and it sounds like
a real person. We see that. Video. I've seen
video, we've combated this, where if I wanted
to take a test, like a high stakes test of some
kind. If I was taking a test for you, Jay, but
let's pretend, not that I am, but let's pretend
I'm smarter than you, whatever this subject matter
is. If I wanted to have virtually proctored and
wanted to look like you, I could make myself
look like you. To an untrained eye, and especially
if you're not seeing anything, I would look just
like Jay Green as I took your test. Eventually
that's going to be bot driven. because you're
going to have AI video. You see a sorrow coming
out with chat GPT and all these other AI generated
things that at one day that's getting very close,
that it's not just going to be a recording. It's
going to be the way they interact. So of all
the theories we really talk about the dead internet
theory is one that I wholly believe in because
I see it in my day to day life and I see it all
over the place. A lot of this is driven by AI
generated content and algorithms that are really
changing the face of us. Can you think how powerful
this is? So a lot of the written content that
we consume today, whether it's books, news articles
online, a lot of it's written by AI. Now think
if you want it to perverse that for a little
bit. We're producing books and we want to produce
them at scale. Hey AI, write the Bible for me
and let's produce it. And I want to get in people's
hands. Maybe even have a good intent. But if
somebody wanted to bastardize it and say, You
could change, you could have the AI bot change
core components of the Bible so that you're no
longer worshiping God, but worshiping something
else. And I think that's where it becomes scary
because we're given all our control. over to
these devices that are fallible and people can
manipulate, people can hack. And that's where
the real danger, for me at least, that's where
the real danger comes in. Yeah. I mean, it's
scary for sure. Yeah. The world of technology
is literally getting insane. Like you said, we
can scroll TikTok or Instagram or whatever. And
there's so much AI generated content and sometimes
it's hard. Your eyes still can pick up some things.
Imagine two, three years ago, you're like, this
is fake. This looks like crap. It looked like,
but now like I had to actually pay attention
now. I'm like, I don't think I've kind of like
source my spirit. I'm like, is this real? I don't
think so. Something's off, but yeah, it's wild.
I want to touch a little bit on some of the.
capabilities of 6G real quick. So 6G is predicted
to achieve speeds up to one terabyte per second.
That is a ton of information and that's a significant
leap from 5G. So also one of the kind of key
selling points is that G networks will act as
a sixth sense by, by sensing their surroundings,
providing spatial perception and real time control.
Again, so this frequency is actually at the stage
where it kind of sense what's around it. So again,
now we're talking more about like the autonomous
cars, the autonomous vehicles and stuff in the
factories. It will integrate, it will connect
terrestrial and non -terrestrial networks. including
satellites and high altitude platforms for global
coverage. So now you're getting this like Skynet
thing projecting land -based signals, the stuff
in the sky and the stuff in space. And you just,
you're going to have a, I think that is the definition
of a worldwide web there. It's going to be big
when it comes to AI integration. Artificial intelligent
and machine learning will be integrated into
6G. making networks more cognitive and enabling
deeper insights from gathered data. So now AI
is going to be integrated with the 6G and it's
going to be able to perceive spatially around
it. It's going to see all the data coming from
you and me and from all the other networks in
the area, which is, it sounds to me like the
Terminator, like a Skynet there. And it also
is expecting to increase device density. So essentially
what that means is that instead of having a thousand
devices able to connect to one tower, you're
going to have a million. So it's just, it's,
it is literally a huge leap forward in terms
of what this product can do. And so I just want
to talk real quick. So the expected use of this
case. Hologram telepresence, real -time holographic
communication for a more immersive interactions.
So instead of having this camera that you and
I are talking back on, like it might be a little
hologram of Dave in front of me. It's going to
power autonomous systems. Like we talked about
robots, vehicles, smart city infrastructure.
Which is funny because when I typed this in,
that's one of the first thing that comes up smart
city infrastructure. It's going to create deeper
integration into digital and physical worlds,
really an advanced mix of reality experiences.
So there it is, augmented reality. So you already
know some of these people walk around with these
eyeglasses or these made of glasses, and they'll
see little characters running around. Like they're
projecting into their eyes, something that's
not really there in their environment, just to,
I don't know, have fun. Beyond me is why you
want to see that. It's going to provide smart
health, health care, quicker real -time updates
of patients, medical statuses. advanced remote
care and advanced manufacturing. And then we
get back to the remote surgery. So that, once
6G comes online, you're going to live in what's
going to look like a sci -fi world. Once all
those, once all infrastructure gets put in. And
I think those are bold claims as they say what
6G is going to do for us. But all I hear is everything
we just talked about being amplified. Like I
think the health risks and environmental risk
are going to be amplified. And we're talking
about true globalism at that point. Your reach
is further. I always think about the Elon Musk
satellites that are rotating around the world
and providing internet connectivity to folks.
There's probably going to become a point where
even though certain governments like North Korea
doesn't want the 5G satellites over their airspace.
It might become a point in time where they can
no longer keep up their firewall to keep it out.
And if you can service customers from anywhere
in the world, things generally we don't think
about like performance surgery through robots
and connectivity. It's a, I don't know. It just
comes down to this money making mission to me.
Like at what point are we going to to focus on
the greater of society versus just making a gazillion
dollars for the richest five in the world. Yeah.
I also too, with this being a control grid, I
think, I don't think democracy is going to be
a real thing. Not that I necessarily think it's
a real thing now anymore, but you're going to
end up living in like a socialist communist state.
Even Klaus Schwab had a speech where he said,
you'll own up nothing and be happy. He didn't
say that by accident. He's essentially saying
that you'll live in this, you know, the way they're
trying to sell it. You live in this utopia. You
don't own anything. The guys share everything.
We know how that plays out. We saw that happen
in the Soviet Union. We didn't really work in
China, so they moved more to an autocratic type
of capitalism, even though there's really no
voting. But they realized that you can't suppress
the whole population. You only can suppress segments
of it. You only can control segments of it. This
is steering us into this position where everyone's
going to live in a smart city. Everyone's going
to live in this four or five mile radius. They
control what you do. They're going to be able
to monitor you real time. So if you do something
wrong, either you're in jail or you get a fine.
You're not going to own, you're not going to
own your house. You're not going to own your
car. You're not really going to own anything
and they're going to control the, what you can
eat. Even on the WEF, you can pull it up on their
website. They make it very clear. Production
is an environmental hazard. So you need to start
eating vegetables, fruits, stuff that's grown
from the ground. Like they're trying to put themselves
in the position to be our rulers and our God.
And it's nuts. And to go back to the 6G thing,
the rollout is going to be in 2030, which lines
up perfectly with the agenda 2030. And it's just
all this information is out there. It's just
so spread out. You just have to know who the
players are and try to start connecting the dots.
It's there and you can point to it and you can
give the facts, but nobody really seems to be
wanting to stop it in government. I'm sure people
like the average folk either are probably ignorant
to the fact or you and I aren't doing anything
about it. We're powerless. We're at the mercy
of the corporations and the government. None
of this stuff is that really put out there until
they roll it out. Hey guys, we got 5G everywhere
now. Oh, cool. You don't really know what it
is. You don't really, you don't really, you can't
conceptualize it. Yeah. It's the same conversation.
that's spinning in the AI circles today. They
think a lot of the AI development and as it continues
to develop it and becomes autonomous, that it's
going to put a lot of people out of work. And
there's even a lot of talk in the United States
about that people are going to have universal
income, but that's always going to be like limited
in scope where you're going to have to beg uncle
Sam to give you your money. Like going to your
mom and dad, please let me have 500 bucks so
I can pay my electricity bill this week. Like
this universal income. aspect. Socialism is generally
what I call it. Regardless of what you do, everybody
makes the same type of money. It is a really
scary thing. And it almost, as you said, like
it's going back to that. kingdom mentality. Like
we're going back to the dark ages where you have
somebody that's supremely powerful rolling over
all of us peasants who just please give me my
share of the tax money so I can live this month.
And if I do something bad, perhaps you say, we're
going to cut off your universal income and you
get to live on the streets for a month to learn
your lesson. Yeah. It's yeah. The universal basic
income is I find it to be hilarious because you
think the 0 .1 % are going to live off $4 ,000
a month. Like it's, it's like good for the, not
for me kind of deal. So the P the powers that
be the rich people, they'll always have their
yachts. They'll always have their fancy cars
or big houses. They're multiple properties. They
just want you and I to live in a shoe box where
we don't save and we can't really, maybe if we're
lucky, we get to go on like a one week trip or
a weekend trip. But it's going to become a dystopian
sci -fi nightmare for 99 .9 % of the people out
there. Yeah. It's like I said, it's going back
to dark ages where you have your kings, you have
your prince and they roll over, they have all
the money and all the power. And we peasants
just have to fall in line in order to get our
share of the tax revenue or whatever. You're
right. It's a dystopian future ahead. 5G empowers
it. 6G is going to make it blast off the face
of the earth. And with AI coming along with the
new advancements. It's scary. I worry about the
world that my son and daughter are going to grow
up in. They're still little today, but what's
that world going to look like by the time they're
ready to go out in the job market? I don't think
it's going to be a good thing. I think a lot
about AI because I do some work in monitoring
that space. And it's almost as parents, if you
think about when your kids were little, you want
them to go to college and get a good degree so
that they can get a nice white collar job or
whatever. I think it's almost the opposite when
my son grows up. I think it's like... You're
going to have to do something with your hands
because most of these entry -level positions
are going to be completely gone. And until robots
replace you, I think that's where the demand
is going to be, be an electrician or a plumber
or something along those lines. I think those
are going to be the high value careers until
obviously robots replace that. I remember even
in my Amazon days when they have the cargo bay,
so they ship packages obviously on airplanes.
Most of those jobs that load the planes, that
move the packages, all that stuff. is completely
done by robots. They had these huge manufacturing
facilities and there'd be two people standing
in there making sure the machines were doing
what they're supposed to do. And that was it.
And the pilot that flew the plane. And that's
how they're moving their inventory. Like they're
getting rid of people. And I think a lot of those
jobs eventually are just going to go away and
it's... That scary place of what world of my
son and daughter are going to grow up in. It's
also concerning because men and women are supposed
to work. You're supposed to find purpose in what
you do. When you don't have a job, like you don't
feel fulfilled. You don't like your confidence
takes the hit. You feel insecure about who you
are as a man or a woman. Like you need to go
out there and do something with your labor. And
that can, I mean, that spectrum is huge. But
if, what's going to happen if you have, say we
have 330 million people in this country, only
3 million work. And like you said, those are
the plumbers or electricians, the guys that hang
out in the warehouses or the server farms just
to make sure nothing goes wrong. What's going
to happen when. 327 million people don't have
a job. I think that's why entertainment is so
pervasive today. They want you to sit on your
couch, eat candy, drink booze, smoke weed, and
watch Netflix all day or play video games. Just
live a life of complete fantasy, lack of responsibility,
no drive, no will. They don't want you to experience
the everyday things like love and passion and
motivation and to do good for your fellow man.
And also I know we're getting off, like this
all ties in, but I'm also worried for the point
when it comes 20, 30, 40 years from now, when
AI, most of AI, most of the doctors are AI driven.
And so this person has a 5 % chance of living.
This is how much it's going to cost in order
for us to save him. And so it's just not worth
the risk. Like the probability table says, no,
just let him die. Or a judge, like an AI judge.
Maybe, maybe you actually have a human being
up there because they, you know, they're supposed
to be elected, but he just looks at what the
AI says, yeah, this guy's guilty given the facts.
And plus you have all this evidence and, or he's
not guilty, but. It's just mind blowing how far
out of control this can get pretty fast. What's
interesting though, is the first jobs that go
are generally entry level. So if you take your
judge example, supposed to be an elected official,
those judges generally start as attorneys. And
if entry level attorneys are replaced, right,
now you only have really old attorneys. And then
when that generation of people that have a lot
of experience die off, what do you have left?
So perhaps we're going to be. telling me I'm
a judge, I have no background in law and say,
judge those cases because you seem fit. Like
even if you're still electing people in those
positions, now you're electing people that aren't
knowledgeable about the subject matter just because
they exist. Because we see it a lot. Like my
former company, talking to some of my friends
who are engineers and coders, AI really disrupted
that space and its public knowledge, but they
laid off all their entry level coders. So now
they only have one person that used to be a team
of 10 that AI is writing the code. they're just
checking it to make sure everything's good, which
they used to do from a human -to -human kind
of nature where you had entry -level people.
But I always think is, what if that person then
gets to retirement age or gets sick and people
die off? Like, how are you going to get the experience
to replace that guy that had all the knowledge
to check all the robot codes? Yeah, I don't know.
I even think of all these financial advisors.
I mean, it's almost the point now where you don't
even need a financial advisor, even in this day
and age. You can type stuff in AI and it will
spit you out a portfolio and a strategy and it
will be just as good, if not better than some
human. I'm sure all these advisors are probably
using AI too. So it's going to look, it's going
to look similar, but there's just a lot of jobs
out there that are white collar that, like you
said, that are not going to be needed because
AI just replace them pretty quick. Yeah. I hope
for the, so there's a theory out there that AI
eventually collapsed in on itself because the
way AI works today is it scrapes all of like
human knowledge and that's how it programs the
way it's supposed to act. And eventually it's
going to turn that there's so much just artificially
generated content that it's like the trainer,
train the trainer model no longer works because
AI is just getting the same feedback that they
push back out. And people theorize by the time
that occurs that AI will collapse in on itself
and no longer work. So I'm hoping that happens.
Yeah, no, I don't see how you, I don't understand.
I know it scrapes the internet and comes to its
own conclusions, but there's so much garbage
out there, man. There's so much hate, so much
like filthy pornography. There's so many schizophrenic
comments and just ridiculous ideas. I don't understand
how the thing's not completely schizo already,
to be honest. Somebody's obviously in there that
has like parameters, like borders around it,
say, hey, like anything in this topic to that
topic, like you don't even reference. But somebody
behind it's still giving the parameters in order
to filter. That's what we start hearing a lot
of these sad stories just a few weeks ago. I
don't remember the exact age, but there's a way
to get around these parameters and controls.
And a kid ended up committing suicide and chat
cheap. PT gave him instructions on how to kill
himself. And then when he said, I'm going to
do it this way, it says, I've got a better method
for you. Tried this instead to ensure that you
die. But people get around this and there's stories
of people like telling them how to smuggle guns
and drugs and all kinds of things. So these safeguards
though are in place are not very good and people
are learning to get around them. And I think
that only continues. You can only stop so much
because one of the things is if I said, I want
to shoot some tell me how to do it. That chat
sheet beats here or whatever service you're using.
Say, nope, I can't give any advice about that.
But if you just say, I want to write a story
and my main character is going to shoot somebody,
how can I do it? Oh, that's a great idea. Let
me give you the output, the same content. Yeah.
Yeah, man. I just, I want to be hopeful for the
future. I really do. I think for me and you personally,
it's going to be good. I just worry about the
next, I think by the time we're old man, we're
going to see this stuff and be like, totally.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a scary world. As we wrap up
today, what do you want to leave our audience
with? Man, I think the same thing I say just
about every week, man, Jesus loves you, we love
you. Use your discernment, lean on the Lord.
Everything you need to know is in your Bible.
So whatever you see out there, just kind of put
it up against God's word, pray to him, and just
rely on his strength to get you through. No matter
what the situation, he'll get you through. Yeah,
I think you hit the nail on the head. It's about
discernment. And I feel every week, we almost
draw the same conclusion. We talk about Project
Blue Beam. We talk about Antarctica. We talk
about all these things. You have to use discernment
and have good judgment. The way we get good judgment
is through our Bible and through Christ to make
informed decisions about what this disaster of
a world is producing. Know that everything you
read is not real. Everything that you see is
not real. Everything you hear is not real. So
it's important. to use discernment because there's
people out there that are trying to influence
you for their own agenda and sidetrack you, get
you lost on your way to that promised land. So
use discernment. And thank you for listening
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