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You're tuned into Zero Signal, a show about what

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they won't say and what you're probably already

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thinking. No fluff, no filters, no bullshit.

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Let's crack it open. Welcome back. to zero signal.

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Last time we cracked open the frozen vault of

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Antarctica, Nazi bases, pyramids under the ice,

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animal birds, strange expedition that ended with

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more questions than answers. But here's the thing

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about Antarctica. The deeper you go, the stranger

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it gets. This isn't just the coldest, loneliest

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continent on earth. It's a stage where politics,

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science, conspiracy, and even biblical prophecy

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all collide. Tonight, we're digging a bit deeper

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past the myths you've heard before into the stories

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they don't want to ask you about. Because Antarctica

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isn't just a frozen wasteland. It's a locked

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vault. And people with the keys aren't telling

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us what is inside. Let's start with something

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recent. Something with names and dates we all

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recognize. 2016. Out of nowhere, Antarctic became

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the world's strangest travel destination. John

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Kerry, the U .S. Secretary of State, flies down

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on election day. Religious leaders from the Eastern

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Orthodox Church make pilgrimages. And Buzz Aldrin,

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at 86 years old, shows up at the South Pole,

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only to be evacuated for health issues. Before

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leaving, he supposedly fired off a tweet, We

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are all in danger. It is evil itself. Then it

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disappeared. Officially, it was altitude sickness.

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Unofficially, That one tweet lit a fire of speculation

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that they weren't just sightseeing. They were

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summoned there. Now, Jay, let me ask you this.

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Why do you think world leaders and even church

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figures suddenly cared about Antarctica? Do you

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buy the ideal that they were called down there

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to see something? That's a hard question to answer.

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There's a ton of theories as to why they went

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down to Antarctica. I think it's pretty bizarre

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that They decided to go down and make this trip

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during the election in 2016. So that's when Trump

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and Hillary were running against each other.

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It looked like Hillary was going to win, but

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Trump ended up winning in a pretty big landslide,

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surprising everybody with results. I think the

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official narrative is John Kerry went down there

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as an observer of climate change. I guess the

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glaciers were reportedly melting faster than

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usual. I know there was some Eastern Orthodox.

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Bishop Pope, not entirely sure what his title

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was. He went down there and the official narrative

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there was that he was going down there to bless

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the Russian scientists and one of their bases.

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And then there's some sort of backroom chatter

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that Obama made the trip. I think it was official

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that he made a trip to Argentina, but the speculation

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is that he actually ended up using Argentina

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as a waypoint to get down to Antarctica. Some

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of the conspiracy theories are that. They found

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an extraterrestrial craft or an extraterrestrial

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location, mothership possibly, and they were

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going down to have a conversation or see what

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this being had to say. Also, we touched on base

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211, the hidden Nazi bases down in Antarctica.

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And another theory is that they went down there

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to see the underground bases. Maybe they weren't

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populated. Maybe they were just remnants. Maybe

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they were ruins, but the other theory is that

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these bases were populated with descendants of

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the Nazis from 1945, 46. The third theory, which

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if I had to pick a theory that seemed most likely

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is that they somehow uncovered some ancient civilizations

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or possibly remnants of Atlantis. I don't buy

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the theory that Atlantis is down in Antarctica.

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I think when you look at and read. Plato's books

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about Atlantis. It just doesn't fit the geographical

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location. There's people like Graham Hancock

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and some other scientists who point back to a

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big event 12 ,000 years ago where the crust kind

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of shifted and relocated in Antarctica from maybe

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middle, in the middle of Atlantic all the way

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down to the South Pole. I think you stretch them

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there. If I had to make hide nor hair of this,

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I would think a bunch of these world leaders

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both officially and unofficially went down there

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was because, in my opinion, that they found some

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sort of remnants of a old civilization. I think

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there's a couple other theories too I like to

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point out. Another one, which I think is more

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likely than underground Nazi bases, because I

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think if those were to have existed, we've known

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about those since 45. So what's that going back

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almost 80 years ago? So why all of a sudden would...

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world leaders want to go down there. At that

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point, it's old news. The second most likely

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theory is there's this theory that the elites

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have built conclaves, underground bases for a

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potential upcoming world catastrophe. So maybe

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they are going down there to check those out.

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And I think the, probably the least likely one,

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very similar to the talking to an alien is that

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somehow, some way they somehow awakened an ancient

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evil or some Nephilim giants, which I think is

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unlikely, but we live in a world of conspiracy

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theory and we enjoy talking about the fantastical

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and trying to find the truth somewhere in the

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middle. I think that's a fun one to talk about

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and dig into a bit. You know what I find fascinating

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about it is that post -Naziism, like by the time

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Nazis were out of the picture, who kept showing

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up at Antarctica? What we started to see in showing

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up was the United States and Russia. There were

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the two big players that were trying to control

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ground. They were doing discovery there. They

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kept showing up. And what we're seeing back in

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2016 is John Kerry showing up as representation

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of the United States. And you're seeing the Eastern

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Orthodox Church, which their version of the Pope

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sets in Russia. It's another battle of the great

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powers that are in existence today. They're coming

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down to this area. to exert their control influence

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during that time. And I think if we made Indiana

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Jones today when Harrison Ford was fighting Nazis,

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they would probably fight the Russians or the

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Americans as they're trying to hide the secret

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chalice or secret cup. And they just start just

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showing up and they're always in the picture.

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Why would they come down? Ultimately, we always

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talk about like, why are they going to be there?

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What would get the national attention of folks?

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I think about it from a human perspective. If

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we talk about it from a human perspective, it's

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natural resources. I saw that the treaty where

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there's no drilling, no land claims, I think

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expires in 2048. People are obviously planning

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out 20, 30, 40 years into the future. They're

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starting to get into that mode where they're

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going to stake their claims. They're going to

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start to drill for natural resources and they're

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fighting for it. We see it in today where Trump's

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trying to make a claim in Ukraine as he negotiates

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the peace deal between them and Russia to get

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into that profit sharing and be able to get those

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natural resources that drive our military and

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drive all those things. But I think that's only

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half of it. As you stated the last time we met

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together, I think it's a 58 national treaty where

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it says you won't stake any claim to the ground.

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What would cause people to change that? It would

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have to be world -changing and it would really

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have to impact the greater society where ultimately

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if you have you this great discovery and you

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have control over this gate discovery. You have

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control over our world, our world environment.

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And as I'm starting to continue to see those

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stories of where people are disappearing, where

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they're finding these secret caves. The other

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day I just saw about this secret door. I don't

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know if you ever saw it on Twitter, but if they

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have this image where you zoom in and there's

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this door, almost looks like a door and a portal

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in Antarctica. And people speculate that it's

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a door into this third dimension that you could

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walk through. Sometimes when... These kind of

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myths turn into reality because I know people

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are fascinated by anarchists because people are

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prohibited from going there unless they have

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some type of special connections. But man, there

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must be something there. It's not just the weather.

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If they say you can't fly over it, the weather

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doesn't really matter if you're at 20 ,000 feet.

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Like why can't you fly over it? I just always

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think that it's really interesting that it's

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prohibited and there must be something really

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special down there. And then we've connected

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back to our Christian beliefs. Why would Christians,

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and I don't know a ton about the Eastern Orthodox

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Church, but I know they are like a branch of

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Christianity. I don't know what their beliefs

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are, but why would it matter to them? And I always

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go back to the nephephilia. What are they trying

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to stop or prevent or see or prepare for? as

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that kind of clock that we have is ticking forward

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closer to Revelations. Yeah, I think those are

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all valid points. I think they're good points.

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Have you heard of some of these whistleblower

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stories? I can recap them if you haven't. I think

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she's an Emmy Pulitzer Prize winning journalist.

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Her name's Linda Moulton Howe. She does a lot

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of work with conspiracy and paranormal stuff.

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I think the majority of her focus is more like

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UFOs and topics that kind of revolve around aliens

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and ancient civilizations. But she interviewed

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a guy and a lot of these people that she interviewed,

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she grays out their face. She doesn't rebuild

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their identities and she gives a fake name for

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it. So you don't have the luxury of being able

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to vet this person on our end as the watcher

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to see if their stories are true or not. But

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she interviewed a guy that they call Brian, probably

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not even his real first name, but he was a Navy

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flight engineer and he was a part of the Antarctica.

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development squadron from 1983 to 1987. He made

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some pretty bold claims. Again, no evidence,

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just firsthand accounts. According to him, he

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claimed that he saw a silver flying disc over

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the trans Antarctic mountains, essentially saying

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he saw UFOs. He flew over the no -fly zone near

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the South Pole and spotted a huge hole in the

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ice, large enough to land a 130 aircraft. Now,

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how deep that hole was? I couldn't really get

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good information. And I think you briefly talked

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about this last episode. So he witnessed some

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scientists leave and disappear for a week. And

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when they were recovered, they were in a state

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of shock and refused to speak. The crew was warned

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in not so uncertain terms that they were never

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to speak of the episode. I can give you some

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links to some of these, to this story if the

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viewers want to check it out in show notes, but

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that's one of, one of a few stories I found from

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quote unquote whistleblowers. And I think we

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talked about this. I think you briefly mentioned

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it last episode, but again, another person Linda

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Moulton Howe interviewed his, the name given

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was Spartan one. He was a covert op war fighter.

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And apparently Linda Moulton Howe vetted all

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this information. She's a journalist. She seems

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legit, whether or not I believe her conclusions

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or believe what some of these people are saying

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is a different story. But she confirmed that

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he was who she's, who he's claimed to be. He

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participated in the classified mission in 2003

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near the Beardmore glacier. They discovered apparently

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a massive octagonal structure beneath the ice.

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I think they, he said it was roughly around 62

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acres. So that's not small. That's a pretty big

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mass there. He said when he entered the interior,

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it was warm and it was lit by lime green light.

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And this is why this is triggering me from our

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last episodes. I remember you saying something

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about lime, lime green light. But he said the

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walls were made of like shiny black material

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and the walls were all adorned with hieroglyphs,

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I can't say the word, including symbols resembling

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the Nazi Black Sun. And if you look at the Nazi

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Black Sun, it's a pretty distinct symbol, which

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on a side note, if you look at the Azov battalion,

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the Ukrainian battalion that's fighting the Russian

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Ukraine, part of the backdrop of their badge

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is the Nazi Black Sun, which... Which is bizarre

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to say the least but he believed and it was believed

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that this mass this Building this craft whatever

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was built by extra trust and it was involved

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in genetically engineering humans again I can

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leave the lengthy sources. We probably can go

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into more detail later in the episode of If we

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have time. It's a pretty interesting interview

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and that kind of thumbs that up. And there is

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another group of whistleblowers who claim they

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were insiders, Corey Good and Pete Peterson.

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Corey Good, he also claims to be part of the

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20 and back program, which I find to be the most,

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one of the most hard to believe conspiracies.

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Do you know anything about 20 and back? I don't.

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Okay. So might chop this up a bit, but essentially

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what 20 and back is a program where they take

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children. They train them for combat and they

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spend years trained for missions throughout the

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solar system and possibly other galaxies. We

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can dive into that one in another episode because

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it is wild, but basically they recruit you as

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a child. They train you and send you to Mars

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or they send you to another planet within the

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galaxy that has life. And you essentially try

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to keep the peace between the humans that are

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settled there versus. The original inhabitants

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that story is wild. He claims he's blowing his

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arms off and And they have this these miraculous

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machines that can regenerate your limbs I don't

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know if you ever saw you remember Starship troopers

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when like Rico got his arms He got hurt and like

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he's in this machine. It's just like threading

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them back together He claims that technology

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exists. The thing that begs the question is if

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you're gone for 20 years How the heck are you

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back here in it everyone? knows you, there are

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people that have interacted with you on a daily

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basis in the past 20 years. He's, oh yeah, it's

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like time manipulation. So you go there and like,

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you're only gone for a few days in your timeline,

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but once your service is over, they send you

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back to when you were a kid. And I'm like, dude,

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come on, bro. I don't even buy we've been to

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the moons. Yeah. That's another show. But anyway,

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so this Corey Good and this Pete Peterson, I

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don't know a whole lot about Pete Peterson, but

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they claim to be whistleblowers. These guys alleged

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that in 2016, 2017, they observed a secret base

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and remains of an ancient civilization beneath

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the ice. The aliens looked like human alien hybrids.

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They had a massive mothership. And again, here's

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another claim of evidence of genetic experiments.

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So he said Antarctica serves as an extraterrestrial

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hub spreading civilization globally. Kind of

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points back to the Anunnaki theory where the

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Anunnaki came from planet X, they came down to

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earth, they wanted to harvest gold, and they

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took monkeys or gorillas and genetically engineered

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them to turn into us. So again, you have this

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thread weaving through from that book that was

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written about the Anunnaki. And now this is trying

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to give that some credence by saying there's

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a mothership in Antarctica and these aliens are

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genetically engineering humans to spread civilization,

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which takes all the focus off Christ, points

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back to that one world religion where we weren't

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divinely created by God. Aliens from a distant

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star system came here and decided that they wanted

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us as their slave labor to harvest whatever mineral

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or good that they wanted from here. It reminds

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me of So you've read revelations before on Paul's

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account of revelations of Jesus' second coming.

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When he talks about it, he talks about it figuratively.

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And what a lot of people say he saw like giants

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flying scorpions in the sky. And what a lot of

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modern day people say is that they were probably

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helicopters. But I almost wonder that people

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are observing things in Antarctica and they don't

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actually know what they're seeing. So they're

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putting their own Conotex behind it. As they

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observed these things that are transpiring, if

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we go back to the Nazi era, jet fire planes,

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they didn't actually know what they were. They

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flew super fast. So they probably just called

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them UFOs. It was an unidentified flying object.

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They didn't know exactly what it was. And then

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people ran with that for aliens. But I think

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there's a real possibility that there's another

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group of people that are living in Antarctica

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and perhaps. They are more advanced than modern

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society. We can take it back to the jungles in

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South America, the Amazonian jungles, where there's

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uncontacted tribes that live there today, where

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we haven't met with them. And we're talking about

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austere environments, obviously way different

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than Antarctica, but both are austere environments.

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And perhaps people have figured out how to survive

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and advance through time. I think what's more

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important is I think Antarctica isn't just about

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conspiracy theories. Real people have disappeared.

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appeared there. I think about Dennis Tinkbell,

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a young British meteorologist in 1959. He fell

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into a crevice in the King George Island and

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vanished. He was gone within seconds. His body

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was only found in 2025, thawed out by retreating

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ice. Or perhaps Carl Dish, an American scientist

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in 1965. He walked this short path between buildings

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at the Bird Station and he just never made it

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back. It just vanished in the wind. And then

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there was Rodney Marks, an Australian astrophysicist

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who dropped dead on the South Pole in 2000. You

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know what his cause of death was? It was methanol

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poisoning. Diances dined by methanol poisoning?

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How it happened, no one knows. But what is more

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important? These are facts. These are not myths.

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These are facts. These are men who gave their

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lives at the edge of the world. And their stories

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are why Antarctica still feels haunted today.

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But I think to put that in context, we're talking

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about a place where relatively few people live,

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even if it's for a short time, as they transverse

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back to America, whatever country they originated

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from, a very small community. Could you imagine

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like Moscow, Ohio, that has a population of 150

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people. If all of a sudden within five years,

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30, 40 people went missing and were later recovered

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dead or something awful happened to them. How

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crazy is that? Yeah. So let's go a little fantastical

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here. So I think we may have covered this before,

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but Say you are an alien and you want to come

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to earth. Like where are you going to put your

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base? You're going to put it under the ocean.

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Are you going to put it on a frozen wasteland

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where nobody can really go? So I think that's

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why some of these theories can become so enmeshed

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into our culture or the conspiracy theory culture,

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because again, like you said, you can't go there

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without permission. You can't. freely travel,

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you can't fly over it. And then you look at the

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satellite images and a lot of it's blacked out.

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I can zoom in on my house from Google Maps, but

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you're blacking out parts of. a frozen wasteland.

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I feel counterclaimed to that is that it costs

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too much money. Google makes a trillion dollars

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a year. A couple hundred thousand dollars to

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render images is like me and you spending a dollar.

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It doesn't lend a lot of credence to that argument.

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But I just go back to the thing. If I'm an alien

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and I want to park my massive mothership, parking

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it under the ocean where nobody can see me, or

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I'm parking it on a frozen wasteland where nobody

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can go. And if humans do... show up, it's gonna

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be very difficult for a lot of them to get there

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because this is going to be so cumbersome and

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dangerous to your physical body to get there.

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It reminds me, if there was a different society

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that was living there and perhaps they were 30,

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40 years more advanced than us, we're talking

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about going to Mars now. A place that's austere,

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where there's no oxygen, where you have to live

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within a bubble, where you can't grow food, where

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it's either cold and maybe hot, I'm not sure,

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but it looks like a desert when we see the photos.

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But I think that... might be a reality in 20,

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30, 40 years when my son grows up to be a man.

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And perhaps there's a society there that's just

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a little bit more advanced than us. Have you

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ever seen the movie Titan? Maybe. Just to give

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you a spoiler if you haven't seen it, but it's

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about a program that genetically engineers humans

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so they can live on other planets. settle them.

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It's a mix of sci -fi and horror because at the

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end it gets a little wild. Also if you're doing

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genetic experiments outside of the fantastical

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alien narrative I just spewed out, if you don't

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if you don't experiment some people you're going

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to want to do a far away. And again, we're touching

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on the fantastical. So say how many hundreds

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of thousands of people a year ago missing without

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a trace. What's the say? You just don't snatch

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them up, bring them down to Antarctica, genetically

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test them out of sight, out of mind. There's

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no satellite imagery. You couldn't pinpoint anything.

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There's enough quote unquote whistleblower accounts

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suggesting that there are underground bases.

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There are just research facilities down there.

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And Honestly, the more I think about the topic,

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the more I think it makes sense that there are

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bases underground. And if you're going to do

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some nefarious stuff, you want to be as far away

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from civilization as you can. Because in their

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minds, Lord forbid, if you escape, where do you

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even go? You're just going to freeze out in the

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middle of the Antarctic wasteland. It's like

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Alcatraz. Oh, like the ultimate Alcatraz. The

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only thing worse would be a platform in the middle

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of the ocean. The platform in the middle of the

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ocean would probably be better. I don't know.

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I would take my chances of drowning versus freezing

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to death and minus 70. Yeah, true. That would

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be painful until your body shut down. You know,

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what I always think about with these conspiracy

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theories is if they, if any of them were true,

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like why does the governments, and I'm not talking

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about the American government because they probably

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have their reasons, but the governments of the

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world, because these aren't just rumors that

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are originating in the United States. Like, why

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aren't they telling people? Why, like why aren't

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they? There's so many whistleblowers. There's

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so many like leaky ships within government agencies.

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We think of Snowden and that when we told that

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people were eavesdropping on cell phones and

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he fled to Russia. What's the benefit, like the

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global benefit? Everybody's same page, same stamp

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that we're not going to tell anybody about what's

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going on down here. I just, I can't explain that.

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Yeah, regardless of how. We see the world, the

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ultimate goal is a one world government. But

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in my mind, you have certain power players jockeying

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for position in order to get that top dog seat.

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You're not sharing your science. You're not sharing

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your technology for the most part, especially

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the stuff that's decades more advanced than what

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we have now. You might share the stuff that's

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modern. You might share your AI. You might. share

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your semiconductors or your chips. But I think

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the ultimate goal too, is that with the final

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outcome being a one world government and one

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world order, I still think big countries like

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China, the US, Russia, to a certain extent, European

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Union, to a certain extent, they still want to

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wield the most power. So that's why I think so

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much stuff is still hidden from us because it's

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a race. It's a race to wield the most power.

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So you're the shot collar when the time to unify

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comes along. You think of these presidents like

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president Trump, when he first got back into

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office. He was like, I'm going to tell you about

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the JFK assassinations. Cause there's so many

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conspiracies about how JFK was murdered. I don't

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know. It's just, it seems like somebody would

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talk about it, but there's so many people that

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are talking about it. And there's what really

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boggles my mind is we go back to the, when we

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first started talking about this topic is essentially

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a Pope traveling. There's no reason why a Pope

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of the Eastern Orthodox church would go visit

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Antarctica. At least I think of one. Obviously,

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as Christians, we're called to care for the world,

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but we also have dominion over the world as well.

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God has given us that. So I can't think of a

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reason why. There's no souls to be safe down

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there. Why are we traveling there? And it doesn't

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make a lot of sense. It's not like you're, it

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makes sense if you're traveling to Australia,

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it makes sense if you're traveling to South Africa.

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It's not exactly on your side of the block, but

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see why Pope would go to something that had a

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rather big population with established churches.

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It doesn't make a lot of sense for him to go

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down to Antarctica where there's seven Russian

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scientists. It's a little bizarre. To get back

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with like back to this John Kerry thing, I found

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it interesting. So John Kerry visited Antarctica

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on election day. And the conspiracy theory is

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that it was seen as a handover of global secrets

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to his handlers. Again, fantastical, fun to think

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about. And Buzz Aldrin went down there and sent

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that cryptic text saying, you may remember Verbatim,

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but it's actually said. There's nothing about

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evil here or something in that context. And the

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theory is that he was exposed to some sort of

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alien artifacts or this pyramid structure and

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it triggered whatever symptomatic physical symptoms

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he was experiencing. And I think the Pope's name

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was Kiro. And some people interpret that trip

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as like a spiritual negotiation with other worldly

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entities trying to negotiate. The release of

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the hollow earth theories and the advanced civilizations

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claiming that it would up the apple cart of our

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religions and of our archaeological understanding

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of our planet. One of the things I think about,

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and I think this is where it takes a dark turn.

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We know the Nazis sent expeditions to Antarctica

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and the nice, but some say. They weren't after

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whale oil or maps or territory. They were really

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chasing power and they weren't alone. Groups

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like the Thule Society and the Thule Society

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were really whispering in their ears during this

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time. The Thule believed in Hyperborea, really

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a lost homeland, maybe hidden at the poles, home

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of this pure race, and the Vril Society claimed

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a hidden life force energy called Vril could

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give them superhuman powers, perhaps even like

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flight. Mediums in the group claimed to channel

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messages from advanced beings beneath the earth.

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Imagine Hitler, obsessed with their cult, hearing

00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:18.519
that Antarctica could be a gateway to the lost

00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.670
power. And that's the theory that Nazi bases

00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:24.490
were less military outpost and more occult kind

00:25:24.490 --> 00:25:26.569
of treasure hunts. Think back to the Indiana

00:25:26.569 --> 00:25:30.309
Jones. And I almost wonder, like we have these

00:25:30.309 --> 00:25:32.789
competing societies, we have the Nazi regime

00:25:32.789 --> 00:25:35.390
going down there and like setting up shop. And

00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:37.029
they obviously got there and they're setting

00:25:37.029 --> 00:25:40.369
up shop. And who remained behind? And as I start

00:25:40.369 --> 00:25:43.569
to breadcrumb those trails back together. It's

00:25:43.569 --> 00:25:45.569
almost like people were down there. And that

00:25:45.569 --> 00:25:47.750
would be a really good reason to send a pope

00:25:47.750 --> 00:25:49.910
to talk to these people that are very demonic

00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.609
at this point. Like they, they don't believe

00:25:52.609 --> 00:25:54.410
in all they want. They don't want to save everybody.

00:25:54.529 --> 00:25:57.190
They only want to save the white blonde hair,

00:25:57.369 --> 00:25:59.849
blue eyed folks at that point in time. And you

00:25:59.849 --> 00:26:02.569
could imagine the demonic manipulation that's

00:26:02.569 --> 00:26:04.730
occurring and perhaps maybe a society figure

00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:08.509
out how to live there. And this Pope wanted to

00:26:08.509 --> 00:26:10.569
travel down there and now we're talking about

00:26:10.569 --> 00:26:13.970
a soul -saving mission. So do you think the Nazis

00:26:13.970 --> 00:26:16.589
really believed in Antarctica was really this

00:26:16.589 --> 00:26:19.589
doorway to hidden power or perhaps maybe it's

00:26:19.589 --> 00:26:23.990
just like a myth? Man, what I think is so Hitler

00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:28.390
was so hungry for these artifacts. I think when

00:26:28.390 --> 00:26:31.450
you're a megalomaniac and you're smoking meth

00:26:31.450 --> 00:26:34.359
all day And you start to become unhinged. You

00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.779
can read a lot between the lines, especially

00:26:36.779 --> 00:26:40.579
if you're being talked to by mediums and these

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:44.819
kind of occult esoteric societies, like the Vril.

00:26:45.059 --> 00:26:47.579
I think you can really lose your way. If you're

00:26:47.579 --> 00:26:50.039
not rooted in Christ and your discernment is

00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.319
out the door, you're going to start drawing a

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:54.420
lot of conclusions that are just based on that

00:26:54.420 --> 00:26:58.019
information. So it would not surprise me in his

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:01.039
lust for these artifacts that someone said, oh

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.650
yeah, there's that. massive continent down there

00:27:03.650 --> 00:27:05.349
that nobody's really ever been to other than

00:27:05.349 --> 00:27:08.990
a handful of explorers. I got this message from

00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:13.430
whatever spirit or this ancient text talks about

00:27:13.430 --> 00:27:17.539
a lost land where there's a lost ancient civilization,

00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.079
you need to send someone down there to suss it

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.440
out. And I just think with the drug use and the

00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.440
high stress of bringing a country together and

00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.579
just the, just this desire for ultimate power

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:31.839
and world domination, he's grasping at anything

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.599
he can get his hands on. I do think that there's

00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.059
probably something down there that's ancient

00:27:37.059 --> 00:27:40.430
and buried or at least there's remnants of. I

00:27:40.430 --> 00:27:42.789
just, I think, and I think that due to my biblical

00:27:42.789 --> 00:27:46.049
lens, I think it was a pre -flood civilization

00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:48.910
that got destroyed and after the flood, it just

00:27:48.910 --> 00:27:51.089
froze over. So this, I think that there's a good

00:27:51.089 --> 00:27:54.230
likelihood that there is. buried ruins. And so

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:56.009
that's where I sat with this whole. That's what

00:27:56.009 --> 00:27:57.809
they talk a lot about. That's what a lot of people

00:27:57.809 --> 00:28:00.710
call Antarctica. Maybe perhaps it was the former

00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:04.170
Atlantis. There was a super society that perhaps

00:28:04.170 --> 00:28:06.869
was run by the nephephelium. They set up shop

00:28:06.869 --> 00:28:09.890
there and because it's where it's located. And

00:28:09.890 --> 00:28:12.130
if we go back to the Pangea, if you're one of

00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:14.089
those believers that believe the entire continents

00:28:14.089 --> 00:28:17.319
were united. pre -flood, a lot of people think

00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.900
that this is where it was located. But it was

00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:22.000
like when the world started breaking apart and

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.039
the Noah flood came and we killed off humanity,

00:28:24.259 --> 00:28:26.740
God caused perhaps a major earthquake that separated

00:28:26.740 --> 00:28:28.920
the continents. And like the fall of the Tower

00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.079
of Babel, where folks turned to salt, they scattered

00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.400
them all across the world. And because of its

00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:35.759
location near the ring of fire where they have

00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.160
large earthquakes and different things is they're

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.700
separating the continents and perhaps it just

00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:43.319
floated up or down and it got froze out. And

00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.000
I always, I think one of the things that's super

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.240
fascinating to me. I think if we go back to the

00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.059
dawn of time, and if you're part of that Protestant,

00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:52.619
like Christian narrative, you think the world's

00:28:52.619 --> 00:28:55.460
only, what, 4 ,000 years. And you wonder, if

00:28:55.460 --> 00:28:57.140
you think about God's original design of Garden

00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:59.099
of Eden, it was, at least when I think about

00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:00.720
it, and I'm not super knowledgeable about this,

00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:03.500
but I think of a warm, like subtropical environment

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:06.059
with like beautiful oceans and beautiful gardens

00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:09.670
and trees and stuff. If this area of towards

00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:12.569
a frozen spot in the world where it freezes,

00:29:12.769 --> 00:29:14.349
obviously things can't survive. So it's part

00:29:14.349 --> 00:29:16.730
of God's original design when the flooding what's

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.609
hidden beneath. And we talked about that a little

00:29:18.609 --> 00:29:20.529
bit. If you scrape away all the ice, like what's

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:22.910
actually going to be there. Maybe not aliens,

00:29:23.009 --> 00:29:25.769
maybe not nephophilia, maybe not all these things

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:27.730
we're talking about, but there should be some

00:29:27.730 --> 00:29:30.630
interesting, like you're getting closer to what

00:29:30.630 --> 00:29:32.970
God designed for our lives and what he designed

00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:35.730
for this world pre -sin. Yeah. I want to circle

00:29:35.730 --> 00:29:39.069
back to that. Krill, Kiro, or however you say

00:29:39.069 --> 00:29:41.109
his name. Another theory is, so you've heard

00:29:41.109 --> 00:29:43.630
of CERN. It's like the Large Hadron Collider.

00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:45.069
The other kind of weird thing is that they're

00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:46.849
building these colliders all over the place now.

00:29:46.869 --> 00:29:48.970
I think there's one out in Tennessee and a lot

00:29:48.970 --> 00:29:51.190
of people, and again, I think CERN is going to

00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.750
have to be its own episode. But essentially the

00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:56.329
mainstream narrative on CERN is that it shoots

00:29:56.329 --> 00:29:58.789
particles around this big ring. Some of them

00:29:58.789 --> 00:30:00.930
are miles long and they shoot them until they

00:30:00.930 --> 00:30:02.910
collide. And when they collide, they essentially

00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:05.049
blow up and there's smaller particles that they

00:30:05.049 --> 00:30:07.170
can detect. But they can So the conspiracy is

00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:10.210
that these colliders, these CERN, is opening

00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:12.970
portals. And one of the theories with Kuril is

00:30:12.970 --> 00:30:15.529
that when they activated CERN, that it ended

00:30:15.529 --> 00:30:18.529
up releasing entities. And there's claims that

00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:21.309
the whole purpose of CERN is to release the angels

00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.809
that are bound in the pit and to have them come

00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:26.630
back out. In Revelations, it talks about, as

00:30:26.630 --> 00:30:28.569
far as I can recollect, it talks about these

00:30:28.569 --> 00:30:30.529
angels being released. It says when the Euphrates

00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:32.809
River dries up, these angels will be released

00:30:32.809 --> 00:30:35.170
from the bottomless pit. So the theory is that

00:30:35.170 --> 00:30:38.759
Kuril down there to do a blessing to seal Lucifer

00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.440
and the giants found in the chambers so they

00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.200
couldn't get out. Again, fantastical. I don't

00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.200
know why, I don't know how a pope has the authority

00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.000
to seal the devil and giants and demons. The

00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.579
god thing, it's not a man thing, but that was

00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:55.170
a - another rather sci -fi -ish theory that they

00:30:55.170 --> 00:30:57.549
came up with. We talk about CERN and it reminds

00:30:57.549 --> 00:31:00.509
me of HARP, right, in Alaska. Some believe that

00:31:00.509 --> 00:31:03.190
HARP is like this weather control weapon capable

00:31:03.190 --> 00:31:05.849
of steering hurricanes or triggering earthquakes.

00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:08.769
I think others say it can control human minds,

00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:11.109
broadcasting frequencies across the globe, and

00:31:11.109 --> 00:31:13.890
scientists insist it's harmless. But the secrecy

00:31:13.890 --> 00:31:16.529
of whether we're talking about HARP or CERN is

00:31:16.529 --> 00:31:19.109
I think just the sheer scale of the project make

00:31:19.109 --> 00:31:21.720
people wonder, is there more to this? The reason

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:23.779
I don't think Antarctica is Atlantis, because

00:31:23.779 --> 00:31:25.640
Plato wrote about it, I think he wrote it about

00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.740
350 BC, 360 BC, and the way he describes Atlantis

00:31:29.740 --> 00:31:32.720
and how it was destroyed, it almost, it was destroyed

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.720
in the day and night. So it's a city that's surrounded

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.849
by rings of islands that... Had cities and towns

00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:41.789
on it and he claimed have gotten this story from

00:31:41.789 --> 00:31:44.490
some Egyptian guy and the Egyptians were known

00:31:44.490 --> 00:31:48.509
for keeping meticulous records So he so he wrote

00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:51.009
this story second or third hand off these alpha

00:31:51.009 --> 00:31:54.450
talking to this Egyptian priest or scholar and

00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:58.509
essentially it says that the deal that Atlantis

00:31:58.509 --> 00:32:01.900
was in the Atlantic, past the pillars of Gibraltar,

00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:04.480
which is where the Hornet of Africa and Spain

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.079
Portugal meet. I think if Atlantis did exist,

00:32:07.579 --> 00:32:10.259
it existed somewhere between North America and

00:32:10.259 --> 00:32:12.140
Europe. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for it

00:32:12.140 --> 00:32:15.220
to be down that far south in my book, but I also

00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:17.940
believe that if it did exist, it was probably

00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:21.059
a pre -flood civilization and it was just completely

00:32:21.059 --> 00:32:23.759
wiped out and that story got passed down from

00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.480
one of Noah's sons. If we want to throw around

00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.309
the theory that Antarctica was at one point outside

00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:31.509
of the Strait of Gibraltar, a fellow by the name

00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:34.009
of Charles Hapgood came up with the theory of

00:32:34.009 --> 00:32:36.529
crustal displacement theory. And it's not really

00:32:36.529 --> 00:32:39.589
supported by mainstream geology, but essentially

00:32:39.589 --> 00:32:43.009
what his theory suggested is the earth's crust

00:32:43.009 --> 00:32:46.390
moves slowly via plate tectonics. There can be

00:32:46.390 --> 00:32:48.690
sudden shifts. And I haven't looked at a plate

00:32:48.690 --> 00:32:52.130
tectonic map in middle school. I'm not even sure

00:32:52.130 --> 00:32:55.509
that would make geologic sense for the island

00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:58.259
of Atlantis to shift so like thousands. thousands

00:32:58.259 --> 00:33:01.119
of miles south. And if it did happen, it would

00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.400
have happened, it would have been so catastrophic

00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.779
for the world that you would just have coastal

00:33:05.779 --> 00:33:09.500
flooding probably wipe out 95 % of mankind. But

00:33:09.500 --> 00:33:12.579
I guess you could point that back to pre. pre

00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:14.420
-flood civilization when the flood happened,

00:33:14.619 --> 00:33:16.259
like the crust opened up. Maybe it did shift

00:33:16.259 --> 00:33:18.099
south and everyone in the world died except for

00:33:18.099 --> 00:33:20.180
Noah and his family. The interesting thing about

00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:22.740
it is that I think Albert Einstein wrote either

00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:25.740
like a prologue or an epilogue to his book, Supporting

00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:27.700
the Theory, which is pretty interesting that

00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:30.279
you have probably arguably one of the most famous

00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.859
scientists in the world. jumping on this guy's

00:33:34.859 --> 00:33:36.779
theory of crustal displacement. In the Bible,

00:33:36.779 --> 00:33:39.579
they do say that the floods burst forth if they're

00:33:39.579 --> 00:33:42.720
below and above. So it's potential. It buys into

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.400
the Noah narrative of the end of the world. And

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.660
that was a cataclysmic event. Everybody died,

00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.680
but Noah and his family. Yeah. And his theory

00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.079
is that there was this massive crust displacement

00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.339
like 10 to 12 ,000 years ago. And depending on

00:33:54.339 --> 00:33:57.240
how you view the biblical timeline, I could put

00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:58.980
that right around when the flood happened, give

00:33:58.980 --> 00:34:01.299
or take a couple thousand years. But one of his,

00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.440
one of his was the pair. Rees map back in 1513.

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.259
We talked a little bit about the Perry Rees map

00:34:06.259 --> 00:34:09.219
where the sailor charted the coast of Antarctica

00:34:09.219 --> 00:34:12.019
and he drew it with trees and vegetation. Yeah,

00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.019
I remember you talking about that. During that

00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:16.039
time, I think it's really interesting because

00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.500
you had to know that Antarctica existed, but

00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:20.599
do you think they actually saw it? Do I think

00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.900
the guy who made the Perry Rees map saw it? Yeah.

00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.739
Man, that's tough. You're going back 500 plus

00:34:25.739 --> 00:34:31.360
years. And I think well -versed sailors and explorers

00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.340
knew that there was something down there. I also

00:34:33.340 --> 00:34:35.739
think it was probably very easy to get lost.

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:39.619
Was he charting the coast of Australia, New Zealand?

00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.619
Was he charting the Southern tip of South America,

00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.460
the Southern tip of Africa? I would think if

00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:48.139
you're this explorer have at least a relative

00:34:48.139 --> 00:34:50.280
position where you might be in the world, probably

00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.820
off by five, six, 700 miles. So I lean toward

00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:56.219
the theory that he knew it was there. He thought

00:34:56.219 --> 00:34:58.860
he found it. He drew the map. But he was actually

00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:00.880
not where he thought he was. It reminds me of

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.360
Christopher Columbus, right? On his destination

00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.800
to discover North America and he gets lost somewhere

00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.199
down in South America on the way. Even to this

00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.619
day, Antarctica isn't owned by anyone. That wasn't

00:35:10.619 --> 00:35:13.239
always the plan. In the early 1900s, Britain,

00:35:13.420 --> 00:35:17.420
France, Chile, Argentina, Norway, Australia,

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.960
and New Zealand really all planted their flags

00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.119
on slices of that continent. Their claims overlapped,

00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.980
especially in the Antarctic peninsula, really

00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:28.780
fuel in these outrage. disputes. Then come the

00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:31.360
US and Soviet Union that never claimed land,

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:33.099
but they kept the right to do. They weren't going

00:35:33.099 --> 00:35:35.039
to say, I'm not going to claim it today, but

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.099
maybe one day we'll call it home as part of our

00:35:37.099 --> 00:35:39.179
map. I think it's really a quiet threat that

00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:43.230
they could step on at any time. Then came 1959,

00:35:43.389 --> 00:35:46.050
the Antarctica Treaty froze all claims. No new

00:35:46.050 --> 00:35:48.849
ownership, no mining, no militarization, just

00:35:48.849 --> 00:35:51.369
science. And that's the official story. But here's

00:35:51.369 --> 00:35:54.489
the question. Why would rival nations who fight

00:35:54.489 --> 00:35:57.670
over everything else suddenly agree to just share

00:35:57.670 --> 00:36:00.550
this giant continent, the last great frontier

00:36:00.550 --> 00:36:02.670
that we really haven't even discovered yet? And

00:36:02.670 --> 00:36:05.590
I think a lot of people argue it wasn't about

00:36:05.590 --> 00:36:08.650
peace that kept them quiet. It was really, it

00:36:08.650 --> 00:36:12.269
was about fear. Fear. of what was actually underneath

00:36:12.269 --> 00:36:15.409
that ice. And I wonder, why do you think so many

00:36:15.409 --> 00:36:18.150
of these powerful nations really agreed to stop

00:36:18.150 --> 00:36:20.750
fighting over this continent? Was it really about

00:36:20.750 --> 00:36:24.409
peace and science? Or perhaps was there something

00:36:24.409 --> 00:36:26.769
down there that just they didn't want us to see?

00:36:26.929 --> 00:36:30.010
Yeah, Dave, man. That question, I struggle with

00:36:30.010 --> 00:36:32.230
it, man. I think there's so many interesting

00:36:32.230 --> 00:36:35.809
circumstances, so many caveats. For me to draw

00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:38.090
a conclusion at this point, halfway through our

00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:41.030
exploration of the subject, I'm not sure I have

00:36:41.030 --> 00:36:44.190
a solid opinion yet, but I'd love to hear yours.

00:36:44.349 --> 00:36:46.469
It's a tough question, man. I didn't set you

00:36:46.469 --> 00:36:48.469
up with an easy one. You know, what I think when

00:36:48.469 --> 00:36:50.429
we go back to it, when we think about Christopher

00:36:50.429 --> 00:36:52.570
Columbus, we think about Magellan, we live in

00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:54.889
a society, even today, where we're planting a

00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:56.849
flag. We see Russia and Ukraine fighting over

00:36:56.849 --> 00:36:58.809
territory. Somebody wants to call it their home

00:36:58.809 --> 00:37:00.989
and it may not be worth anything to them, but

00:37:00.989 --> 00:37:02.909
they want to expand their boundaries. They want

00:37:02.909 --> 00:37:05.199
to expand their map. And when we think about

00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.360
Antarctica, when it was discovered, at least

00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.900
when the power players were down there, the United

00:37:09.900 --> 00:37:12.219
States, when we talk about Russia, we talk about

00:37:12.219 --> 00:37:14.260
the Nazi regime. We talk about people who had

00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:16.239
enough money to get down there and start exploring

00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.940
this. unknown continent at the bottom of the

00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:20.599
world. And when they got there, they were just

00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.380
like, this wasn't what we were expecting. We

00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.239
were hoping to find farmland. You think about

00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.659
the Vikings as they sailed across the great expanse

00:37:26.659 --> 00:37:28.860
and they discovered Greenland and perhaps even

00:37:28.860 --> 00:37:31.400
gotten up into the upper portion of North America,

00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:33.079
where they went to Minneapolis. They were looking

00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.739
for farmland. They were looking for places they

00:37:34.739 --> 00:37:36.480
could plant their flags, build their homes and

00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.460
survive in relative ease with rich soil. And

00:37:39.460 --> 00:37:42.599
you get to Antarctica and It's a land of ice

00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:44.579
and perhaps fire, because generally when you

00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:47.139
find ice, you find the opposite of ice. And I

00:37:47.139 --> 00:37:51.300
wonder if they saw this frozen wasteland and

00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:52.699
as they're obviously getting towards the show,

00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:55.360
they're dodging these large icebergs as they

00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.460
snake their way across. And they say, it's not

00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:00.559
really worth fighting over. Like it's inhospitable.

00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.380
And I wonder. They got there and I think Christianity

00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:06.019
was probably more important to people back in

00:38:06.019 --> 00:38:08.019
the day than it even is now, because they were

00:38:08.019 --> 00:38:10.579
closer to it. They were closer to the Jesus times.

00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.340
That they saw it and were like, perhaps this

00:38:13.340 --> 00:38:15.940
is closest, maybe perhaps the closest we're ever

00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:17.760
going to get to the Garden of Eden and to that

00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:20.539
pure soil that God created. And perhaps humanity

00:38:20.539 --> 00:38:22.840
is more important than nations. We can't build

00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.760
here. You won't survive. You can't build a culture.

00:38:24.780 --> 00:38:26.460
You can't build banks. You can't build grocery

00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:28.500
stores. You can't build homes. Can't build farms.

00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.900
You can't raise cattle. So perhaps it's better

00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:34.039
for a test. bed mission versus a society. But

00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.719
with all things and with time and with money

00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.360
and with globalization, those things change.

00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.940
And I think as we get closer to 2048, when the

00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:44.900
national treaty is set to expire, especially

00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:46.699
if they don't renew it, I wonder who's going

00:38:46.699 --> 00:38:48.579
to plant their flag, because we're talking about

00:38:48.579 --> 00:38:50.699
it. Even if you don't live there, you can just

00:38:50.699 --> 00:38:53.179
control it or you can mine for resources. Can

00:38:53.179 --> 00:38:54.900
you think of like a nation like Denmark that

00:38:54.900 --> 00:38:56.860
says, oh, this is all mine? You might be really

00:38:56.860 --> 00:38:59.239
powerful, at least from size. You go from being

00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.610
tiny little Denmark to about as big as Russia

00:39:01.610 --> 00:39:07.010
overnight. That's pretty cool. quick. So have

00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:09.190
you ever heard of Graham Hancock? He's one of

00:39:09.190 --> 00:39:12.030
these guys, I think he gained popularity, at

00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:14.130
least mainstream popularity from like the Joe

00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:16.409
Rogan experience. He's the guy who wrote the

00:39:16.409 --> 00:39:19.190
fingerprint of the gods back in 96 and he wrote

00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:22.849
magicians of the gods in 2015. He suggests Antarctica

00:39:22.849 --> 00:39:25.530
was home for a lost advanced civilization. So

00:39:25.530 --> 00:39:27.829
it's interesting that this topic has come up

00:39:27.829 --> 00:39:30.409
so recently in the conspiracy circles. And I

00:39:30.409 --> 00:39:32.590
think a lot of the genesis of that comes from

00:39:32.590 --> 00:39:36.639
Graham Hancock. He surmised that there was a

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.139
global cladichism called the Younger Dryas event.

00:39:39.260 --> 00:39:41.559
And that happened around 12 ,000 years ago, which

00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.760
kind of lines up with Plato's story of Atlantis.

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:48.800
So his theory of the Younger Dryas event is within

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.699
a thousand years of when Plato suggested that

00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:55.059
Atlantis vanished. Graham Hancock suggests that

00:39:55.059 --> 00:39:58.000
the Antarctica was ice free and or partially

00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.920
ice free during the last glacial maximum, which

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:03.179
was about 12 ,000 years ago. Like I said, allowing

00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:07.050
a sophisticated. to thrive. He cites myths of

00:40:07.050 --> 00:40:09.239
the ancient world which I don't think the flood

00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.760
is a myth, but a lot of cultures have this flood

00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.400
story within their sacred texts, their oral histories.

00:40:17.500 --> 00:40:21.780
And he cites that as evidence of a lost civilization

00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:24.619
that was passed on to later cultures like the

00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:27.099
Egyptians. So he builds a lot of his theories

00:40:27.099 --> 00:40:30.599
of his catastrophic events, lines it up with

00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.760
the time Plato said that Atlantis was destroyed.

00:40:35.059 --> 00:40:38.199
Critique is that Hancock's kind of He relies

00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.519
on reinterpretations of this myth and he's trying

00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.000
to force it. He likes to talk about Gulabaki

00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:49.320
Tappi and he uses that as a support of lost ancient

00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.079
civilizations. It's an interesting theory. All

00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.760
that really makes me think about the dawn of

00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.300
time. And let's go from politics and history

00:40:58.300 --> 00:41:01.079
to I think one of Antarctica's strangest natural

00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.079
wonders, Blood Falls. Discovered in 1911. It's

00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.269
a glacier that bleeds like literally. bleeds,

00:41:07.449 --> 00:41:10.769
a crimson red river oozing out of Taylor Glacier,

00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:13.929
staining the ice bright red for decades. No one

00:41:13.929 --> 00:41:16.909
really knew why. Some said algae, others whispered

00:41:16.909 --> 00:41:19.949
supernatural events. Today, scientists say it's

00:41:19.949 --> 00:41:23.369
iron rich, salty water rusting as it hits the

00:41:23.369 --> 00:41:26.090
air. But here's what really makes it mysterious.

00:41:26.289 --> 00:41:29.650
That water has been sealed under the ice for

00:41:29.650 --> 00:41:33.210
millions of years, according to scientists, untouched,

00:41:33.389 --> 00:41:36.119
and yet... Life survives down there. Microbes

00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.239
thriving in total darkness cut off from the world

00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.960
above. To scientists, it's a clue about extra

00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.840
-mophiles. To conspiracy theories, it's a leak.

00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.579
A wound in the ice. Bleeding out secrets from

00:41:49.579 --> 00:41:52.500
the deep below. Ambibically, blood and water

00:41:52.500 --> 00:41:55.480
is never random. Exodus and the Nile turned to

00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.800
blood as a sign of judgment. In Revelations,

00:41:57.900 --> 00:42:00.800
waters turn to blood in the last days. I think

00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.920
blood falls. It could just be science. Or it

00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.360
could be a reminder that creation itself still

00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.780
cries out in blood red warning. Do you think

00:42:11.780 --> 00:42:14.760
blood falls is just this weird, quirky geology,

00:42:14.980 --> 00:42:18.019
or could it be a biblical sign? Really, nature

00:42:18.019 --> 00:42:20.480
is echoing judgment at the ends of the earth.

00:42:20.579 --> 00:42:22.719
I didn't really, I know we were talking pre -show

00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.360
a little bit about it. I haven't really looked

00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.079
into it and I think. I saw something years ago

00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.380
about the blood falls. I think it's just a natural

00:42:32.380 --> 00:42:35.519
phenomenon, if I'm not mistaken. I don't, again,

00:42:35.739 --> 00:42:38.059
but I don't know a whole lot about it. It depends

00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:41.579
who you believe. Water turns red blood in oceans

00:42:41.579 --> 00:42:43.519
and different things at times in history and

00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.539
rivers and everything else. So it depends who

00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:48.139
you believe, why it's turning red. But I find

00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:50.539
it hard to believe that algae and different things

00:42:50.539 --> 00:42:53.019
are going to survive in this giant iceberg and

00:42:53.019 --> 00:42:56.019
just pour out this blood during that time. I

00:42:56.019 --> 00:42:59.239
more think it's an omen that perhaps as we tick

00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.519
closer to the end of the world, that these icebergs

00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.320
melt and perhaps Maybe that's the blood that

00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.880
stings the Nile River Red. Yeah, the only thing

00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.159
I can find on it with the quick search is that

00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.300
it looks like it's an outflow of iron deposits,

00:43:13.619 --> 00:43:15.599
which I know iron can color. You can see it in

00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.900
your water if you have bad pipes. So I think

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:19.820
it's just a natural phenomenon. But like you

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:22.030
said, it's fun. think about the fantastical,

00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:24.429
but I think it's, I just think it's a natural

00:43:24.429 --> 00:43:26.690
phenomenon. I know Antarctica has a bunch of

00:43:26.690 --> 00:43:28.989
resources and a lot of it has been untapped or

00:43:28.989 --> 00:43:31.230
most of it, if not all of it has been untapped.

00:43:31.409 --> 00:43:34.309
And I think it's just a by -product of a geologic

00:43:34.309 --> 00:43:36.849
phenomenon. But have you heard of it? So I want

00:43:36.849 --> 00:43:38.670
to get into this topic because this gets crazy

00:43:38.670 --> 00:43:41.710
too. Have you heard about the cryptids in Antarctica?

00:43:41.929 --> 00:43:44.090
I haven't. Oh my gosh, bro. You're going to love

00:43:44.090 --> 00:43:46.090
this. This is up our alley. A fellow by the name

00:43:46.090 --> 00:43:48.969
of Eric Hecker. He's a former Navy serviceman

00:43:48.969 --> 00:43:51.829
and Raytheon contractor. He worked in the, one

00:43:51.829 --> 00:43:53.929
of the bases down there in the South pole station

00:43:53.929 --> 00:43:57.949
in 2010 and 2011. He claims he had observed advanced

00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:00.250
technologies, including directed energy weapons

00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:02.409
and faster than light communication systems.

00:44:02.789 --> 00:44:05.070
I actually listened to an interesting podcast

00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:07.409
on this one. And I think this can be an episode

00:44:07.409 --> 00:44:09.369
in and of itself, but I just like to touch on

00:44:09.369 --> 00:44:11.650
it. He alleges involvement in government. programs,

00:44:11.889 --> 00:44:14.309
such as the Stargate project, MKUltra during

00:44:14.309 --> 00:44:16.869
his youth, which he believes influenced his later

00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:19.309
career and perspective. He's actually, this is

00:44:19.309 --> 00:44:21.929
the part that I think we vet some of these quote

00:44:21.929 --> 00:44:24.190
unquote whistleblowers. You try to vet their

00:44:24.190 --> 00:44:26.530
background and what they've done in their life,

00:44:26.530 --> 00:44:28.909
but he's actually testified before Congress,

00:44:28.949 --> 00:44:31.349
sharing his experience and raising concerns about

00:44:31.349 --> 00:44:33.210
the undisclosed technologies and their potential

00:44:33.210 --> 00:44:36.030
implications, which is pretty interesting. Yeah.

00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:38.250
So I want to touch on some of the cryptid legends

00:44:38.250 --> 00:44:41.010
out there. So you ever hear of the Nigen? I haven't,

00:44:41.170 --> 00:44:43.630
no. Yeah, so it means a human in Japanese. The

00:44:43.630 --> 00:44:46.429
story originates from Japanese well -researched

00:44:46.429 --> 00:44:48.969
crews and internet forums in the mid -2000s.

00:44:49.050 --> 00:44:51.630
Crews reported seeing an enormous humanoid creature

00:44:51.630 --> 00:44:55.210
in the Antarctic waters. The description is typically

00:44:55.210 --> 00:44:57.909
described as a gigantic humanoid ranging from

00:44:57.909 --> 00:45:01.289
20 to 30 meters, which is huge, 60 to almost

00:45:01.289 --> 00:45:04.190
100 feet long. It features smooth, pale, bluish,

00:45:04.329 --> 00:45:06.530
white skin, human -like arms, and sometimes with

00:45:06.530 --> 00:45:09.250
fingers or hands. Often described as having a

00:45:09.250 --> 00:45:11.739
human -like face, though distorted or featureless.

00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:14.900
Some sightings include a Taylor Finn suggesting

00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:17.599
an aquatic adaptation. It reminds me of a giant

00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.059
mermaid. It's said to swim near the surface in

00:45:20.059 --> 00:45:23.000
groups. They seem to be mostly peaceful and the,

00:45:23.019 --> 00:45:25.539
but some stories suggest that there's some predatory

00:45:25.539 --> 00:45:28.579
behavior. Sightings are often fleeting, glimpsing

00:45:28.579 --> 00:45:31.019
through fog or ice, making verification very

00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:34.159
difficult. There's no verified photos or physical.

00:45:34.349 --> 00:45:37.650
evidence that they exist. These reports are primarily

00:45:37.650 --> 00:45:40.309
coming from Japanese research teams, fishermen,

00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:43.630
or obviously the online post. Some blurry images

00:45:43.630 --> 00:45:46.650
do exist. They claim to show a creature that

00:45:46.650 --> 00:45:48.969
you can't really see and it could be any sort

00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:51.969
of marine aquatic life. Some suggest that these

00:45:51.969 --> 00:45:54.909
creatures are the believed to inhabit the icy

00:45:54.909 --> 00:45:56.969
kind of remote waterways around the continent

00:45:56.969 --> 00:46:00.030
where human presence is minimal. Yeah. But there

00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:03.590
was a story about scientists running across.

00:46:03.630 --> 00:46:05.610
And I wish I could find it because it's here

00:46:05.610 --> 00:46:09.170
somewhere about scientists and I think Marine

00:46:09.170 --> 00:46:12.409
or some sort of armed forces group running across

00:46:12.409 --> 00:46:15.170
a bunch of Iraq type creatures where they had

00:46:15.170 --> 00:46:17.150
to fight their way out of wherever they were

00:46:17.150 --> 00:46:19.570
to get back to their base. And apparently these

00:46:19.570 --> 00:46:22.449
sort of arachnid type beings, creatures, whatever

00:46:22.449 --> 00:46:24.369
you want to say, it killed some of these people.

00:46:24.510 --> 00:46:26.090
It would be an amazing story if I could find

00:46:26.090 --> 00:46:28.130
it and talk about it. The cryptid stories you

00:46:28.130 --> 00:46:31.349
were telling me really reminds me of the mermaids

00:46:31.349 --> 00:46:34.239
and every society in culture. has some type of

00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.500
version of that that it's half woman. half fish

00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:39.320
that are swimming near the surface. I remember

00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.880
visiting Denmark with my wife when she was down

00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.320
there for one of her lawyer trips. And I saw

00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.199
this little like statue of a mermaid on the rocks

00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:48.820
that was out in the ocean. It was actually very

00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:51.460
popular. It was inspired like the mermaid. What

00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:53.099
was it called? The lady and the mermaid or something

00:46:53.099 --> 00:46:55.559
in the Disney cartoon. But it was actually really

00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.420
disappointing. This statue was like four feet

00:46:57.420 --> 00:46:59.579
tall. Like it was tiny on these rocks outside.

00:46:59.780 --> 00:47:02.119
But I feel like every society, and I don't know

00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.019
why, has some version of the mermaid, just much

00:47:05.019 --> 00:47:07.840
like the Kraken. Everybody has some version of

00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.199
the Kraken story out there and people talk about

00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.380
this type of Kraken beast in the water. I don't

00:47:12.380 --> 00:47:15.559
know if it's just old sailor wise tales or what.

00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:18.039
And I also find it funny that a lot of sailors,

00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.320
at least back in the day were men. These versions

00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.780
of the stories were always half women, half fish.

00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.699
I'm not sure which one you'd want to be witch,

00:47:24.940 --> 00:47:27.760
but that's the story they told. Yeah. Weren't

00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.900
the sirens in some of the Greek epics, weren't

00:47:29.900 --> 00:47:32.400
they like mer women? And they would sing out

00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.000
to the sailors and they'd jump overboard and

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.239
they ended up drowning. killed by those creatures.

00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.619
It's an interesting thread through the culture

00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:41.059
and especially ancient culture. I think a better

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.400
one is called a scurvy. The sirens and the mermaids,

00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:46.559
they make me think of body of waters. And then

00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.739
there's Lake Volstack. So Antarctica is really

00:47:50.059 --> 00:47:52.840
The greatest secret, as scientists say, it's

00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.079
buried under two miles of ice, sealed away for

00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.659
15 to 20 million years. Don't believe that, but

00:47:58.659 --> 00:48:00.840
that's what they say. No sunlight, no contact

00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.900
with the surface, just a hidden ocean under the

00:48:03.900 --> 00:48:07.019
ice. In 2012, Russians, here they are back again

00:48:07.019 --> 00:48:09.159
in the narrative, finally drilled through the

00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.139
ice down to Lake Volstek. When the borehole opened,

00:48:12.659 --> 00:48:15.679
the lake water surged upward and froze, locking

00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.170
in whatever secrets were there. When the samples

00:48:18.170 --> 00:48:21.090
were tested, they found DNA, some bacterial,

00:48:21.530 --> 00:48:24.210
some microbial, some that didn't match anything

00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:27.869
known, unknown life. I think skeptics call it

00:48:27.869 --> 00:48:30.789
contamination, but others really whisper about

00:48:30.789 --> 00:48:33.989
cover -ups, researchers falling ill and Russians

00:48:33.989 --> 00:48:36.070
keeping tight control over the data. I think

00:48:36.070 --> 00:48:39.829
why it matters. If life exists in Lake Volstek,

00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:43.179
It really proves that life can exist in conditions

00:48:43.179 --> 00:48:46.380
we thought were impossible, maybe even on other

00:48:46.380 --> 00:48:49.760
worlds. And biblically, Genesis speaks of the

00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.659
fountains of the great deep bursting forth of

00:48:51.659 --> 00:48:53.980
the flood. Some Christians believe that lakes

00:48:53.980 --> 00:48:56.860
like Lake Volstek could be remnants of those

00:48:56.860 --> 00:49:00.219
waters, frozen since Noah's days, carrying remnants

00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:02.739
of the pre -flood world. And if that's true,

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.440
then drilling Lake Volstek isn't just about science.

00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.139
It's trespassing on the ruins of God's judgment.

00:49:09.500 --> 00:49:11.380
Now, hearing all this, and I don't think you

00:49:11.380 --> 00:49:13.059
had a lot of background in the Lake Volstek until

00:49:13.059 --> 00:49:15.119
we start talking about it. What do you think?

00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.420
Is Lake Volstek just a scientific curiosity or

00:49:19.420 --> 00:49:22.440
perhaps a vault? A remnant of the flood, hiding

00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.039
life and history we're not really supposed to

00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.300
uncover. Yeah. I don't know if we're not supposed

00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:30.739
to uncover it. I think any sort of geological

00:49:30.739 --> 00:49:33.980
type phenomenon when it's frozen and it's under

00:49:33.980 --> 00:49:36.780
meters or miles of ice, you're going to, you're

00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:39.199
going to have evidence of the life that existed

00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.219
way back when. I also know that they discovered

00:49:41.219 --> 00:49:44.800
a 60. million year old fossilized and it appears

00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.260
to be reptilian. I think they said it was an

00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:50.099
egg from an ancient dinosaur. Yeah, it's just

00:49:50.099 --> 00:49:52.280
like the ultimate time capsule. It's like the

00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.739
ultimate earth time capsule. It's frozen. You

00:49:54.739 --> 00:49:56.539
dig it up. You can see what was hanging around

00:49:56.539 --> 00:49:59.280
back then, but I don't think it's necessarily

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.000
forbidden. Just honestly think that there's pre

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.179
-flood civilization remnants and that's what

00:50:04.179 --> 00:50:06.719
my brain keeps pointing back to, man. I think

00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.579
there's ancient ruins from thousands and thousands

00:50:09.579 --> 00:50:12.360
of years ago that are untouched. And it's probably

00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.159
super cool to look at. And I think that's why

00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.300
a lot of these people go down there. And I think

00:50:17.300 --> 00:50:19.199
you get back to your original question. I think

00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.599
the reason it's off limits is because the world

00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.360
wants to preserve it and check it out for themselves

00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.519
without somebody coming in, drilling and hacking

00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:29.940
and destroying it. Yeah, Jay, what I think is

00:50:29.940 --> 00:50:33.800
fascinating is that the Russians on the picture,

00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.079
like the new Nazi regime, not saying they're

00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.239
bad as the Nazis, but they're showing up. They're

00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.719
the bad guys in this story. And they drill down

00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.059
into this water and the water like shoots up

00:50:43.059 --> 00:50:44.800
out of the lake. But by the time it gets to the

00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.340
surface, it freezes again. And they say the water

00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:50.340
below this eye capsule, it's not frozen because

00:50:50.340 --> 00:50:53.360
it's the geothermal activity. So it's hot enough

00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:56.460
below, but not hot enough above. So when it shot

00:50:56.460 --> 00:50:58.559
through this hole that they drilled down in the

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.940
ice, it froze and it became this kind of like

00:51:00.940 --> 00:51:02.699
ice core. And then they pulled this ice core

00:51:02.699 --> 00:51:05.019
out and they analyzed it. When they analyze this

00:51:05.019 --> 00:51:07.000
core, obviously they found the DNA activity that

00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.099
they've never seen before, the microbial activity

00:51:09.099 --> 00:51:10.960
that's never seen before. And that's the end

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.579
of the story. They're like, and the only other

00:51:13.579 --> 00:51:15.780
explanation that they proffered during that time

00:51:15.780 --> 00:51:18.500
was, yeah, we saw all these things, but we actually

00:51:18.500 --> 00:51:20.539
think it was just contamination from our equipment,

00:51:20.619 --> 00:51:22.940
from the kerosene that we use to drill the hole.

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:24.980
And they tried to cover it up and they actually

00:51:24.980 --> 00:51:27.119
never talked about it. And we're going back to

00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.280
these like things where people are seeing these

00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.659
really cool things in Antarctica. And then all

00:51:31.659 --> 00:51:33.400
of a sudden it's just, oh, that's a conspiracy

00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.500
theory. No, it's just contamination. No, there's

00:51:36.500 --> 00:51:39.059
no ice caves. It's just your mind plays tricks

00:51:39.059 --> 00:51:41.059
on you. You see a door, you see an entrance.

00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.280
to a cavern and you know, it's not really there.

00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.000
Like push that out of your mind. It's not really

00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.159
there. It's just what you assume is there because

00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:49.340
you see the pictures. And that's what I find

00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:51.059
weird. We have these really smart people down

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:53.739
there that are scientists dying of methanol poisoning.

00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.539
We know, we see these doors that look like doors

00:51:56.539 --> 00:51:58.739
that we're used to see. And we have these expert

00:51:58.739 --> 00:52:01.460
testimony that go down in these caverns and no,

00:52:01.460 --> 00:52:03.579
it's all fake. And you get to this point and

00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:05.840
it's like, why? If you want to kill conspiracy

00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.500
theories, you tell them a little bit of reality.

00:52:07.659 --> 00:52:09.880
So they're just like, yeah, there was an ice

00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.119
cave. But it wasn't actually like a building.

00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.159
Yeah. I think the thing that comes to mind and

00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:15.780
the thing that kind of freaks me out. So you

00:52:15.780 --> 00:52:19.119
drill down into an ancient lake. The thing that

00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.860
concerns me is so everything down there is cryogenically

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:25.460
frozen. What if you pull up like an ancient bacteria

00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:28.400
or virus that the human immune system has no

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.380
defenses against? Maybe that's why they shut

00:52:30.380 --> 00:52:32.159
up. You're drilling, you're just, you're bringing

00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.679
something back to life that we have no natural

00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.199
immune function to defend against. And that's

00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:38.920
the scary part. If it could be part of the reason

00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.909
they shut up. Crap, we found an ancient virus

00:52:41.909 --> 00:52:43.769
that's going to kill everybody. Or an ancient

00:52:43.769 --> 00:52:46.250
bacteria that's going to kill everybody. A lot

00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:48.269
of people weaponize that, though, to control

00:52:48.269 --> 00:52:50.889
the world as well. If you could engineer a virus

00:52:50.889 --> 00:52:53.550
that can selectively kill your enemy, might be

00:52:53.550 --> 00:52:55.469
a good thing for some countries. Yeah, but if

00:52:55.469 --> 00:52:57.809
you drove a virus or a bacteria that could kill

00:52:57.809 --> 00:52:59.610
it and you don't know anything about it and you

00:52:59.610 --> 00:53:01.610
don't know what the ramifications are and you

00:53:01.610 --> 00:53:04.260
don't know what the genetic sequence is. You're

00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:06.199
just going to kill yourself and everybody else

00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.400
in the process. I don't even know how to defend

00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.179
against it. Unless you have a vault inside of

00:53:11.179 --> 00:53:13.260
a mountain and you never plan on coming out until

00:53:13.260 --> 00:53:15.480
the world's better. Dude, I know we're, I know

00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.340
we're wrapping this up here. There is, there's

00:53:17.340 --> 00:53:19.380
like a seed vault, I think in like Norway or

00:53:19.380 --> 00:53:21.239
something. Yeah. Another theory is that there's

00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.619
a bunch of seed vaults down in Antarctica in

00:53:23.619 --> 00:53:25.559
a bunch of, I think we touched on earlier, like

00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.639
the underground bases to set up the elite to

00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.190
write out a global. Cataclysm, be it financial

00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:35.230
or any other sort of natural or solar phenomenon.

00:53:35.469 --> 00:53:37.449
Think about it though. If you were going to preserve

00:53:37.449 --> 00:53:40.030
like the national kind of progression of society

00:53:40.030 --> 00:53:42.610
here, what better place to do it? Like people

00:53:42.610 --> 00:53:44.570
tried to preserve their lives. So I don't know

00:53:44.570 --> 00:53:46.190
if you remember back in the day, people were

00:53:46.190 --> 00:53:48.570
like freezing themselves in hopes that somebody

00:53:48.570 --> 00:53:50.630
would be able to wake them up one day and be

00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:53.030
able to cure their cancer or whatever. You want

00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:55.469
to talk about fringe, crazy conspiracy theories.

00:53:55.610 --> 00:53:57.510
Have you ever heard of the conspiracy theory

00:53:57.510 --> 00:54:00.409
about that movie Frozen, that cartoon? character?

00:54:00.429 --> 00:54:02.590
No, I haven't. Have you seen it? If you haven't

00:54:02.590 --> 00:54:04.230
seen it now, you'll see it obviously when your

00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:06.030
daughter gets a little older. Yeah, I got a little

00:54:06.030 --> 00:54:08.510
girl, so I'll be seeing it soon. Yeah, it's cute.

00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:11.050
It's cute. But the conspiracy theory, and this

00:54:11.050 --> 00:54:13.369
is just outrageous, but it's fun. It's one of

00:54:13.369 --> 00:54:15.329
those fun conspiracy theories because even if

00:54:15.329 --> 00:54:18.789
it's true, it's mundane. So Walt Disney apparently

00:54:18.789 --> 00:54:21.530
is cryogenically frozen. He froze himself because

00:54:21.530 --> 00:54:23.670
he wants to be reanimated at some point in time

00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:25.789
in the future where he can reverse his age and

00:54:25.789 --> 00:54:27.590
he can come back to life. The reason they named

00:54:27.590 --> 00:54:30.449
the movie Frozen is because when you Google search

00:54:30.449 --> 00:54:32.690
Walt Disney frozen, obviously this movie comes

00:54:32.690 --> 00:54:34.510
up to the top of their search results. So it

00:54:34.510 --> 00:54:37.349
buries everything about him being in cryo freeze,

00:54:37.610 --> 00:54:40.110
virtually non -existent. Yeah. Again, if you're

00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:41.949
going to preserve something, you're going to

00:54:41.949 --> 00:54:44.510
freeze it. It's the converse of burning it up

00:54:44.510 --> 00:54:46.409
when some people believe in burning your body

00:54:46.409 --> 00:54:48.809
when you die. What's the opposite of that? And

00:54:48.809 --> 00:54:50.909
yeah, better way to do it. Yeah, man. Antarctica

00:54:50.909 --> 00:54:54.789
is such a vast and large topic. I feel borderline

00:54:54.789 --> 00:54:57.530
exhausted going through the hours and hours of

00:54:57.530 --> 00:55:00.260
research and I'm sure We missed plenty. I would

00:55:00.260 --> 00:55:03.840
love for our viewers and subscribers to let us

00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:06.559
know what we missed, what we got wrong. And listen,

00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:08.659
Dave and I love conspiracies. We have a list

00:55:08.659 --> 00:55:10.739
of stuff we want to go through, but if you have

00:55:10.739 --> 00:55:13.059
something or you have a story we want to know.

00:55:13.219 --> 00:55:14.940
And we're going to get to the point where we're

00:55:14.940 --> 00:55:17.539
going to start taking guests. And if you're legit

00:55:17.539 --> 00:55:19.880
and you have some evidence to back it up, we'd

00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:21.820
love to talk to you. Yeah. We'll put it on our

00:55:21.820 --> 00:55:24.809
show. We'll do segments. And we'll talk to you.

00:55:24.949 --> 00:55:27.130
We'll discuss the series. It's always important.

00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:30.269
And I think as we, we talk about clothes in tonight,

00:55:30.429 --> 00:55:32.210
right, Jay? I think ultimately what the viewers

00:55:32.210 --> 00:55:34.829
want to know is what do you think about Antarctica?

00:55:35.030 --> 00:55:37.389
What is it? Why are people covered and up? Where

00:55:37.389 --> 00:55:39.969
are people hiding it? What is it? What is Antarctica

00:55:39.969 --> 00:55:42.269
to you? So I think I've mentioned it a few times

00:55:42.269 --> 00:55:44.750
and I'll just wrap it up and put a bow nice and

00:55:44.750 --> 00:55:48.090
tight on top. I think the reason everyone is

00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:50.449
in agreement with that claiming it is that I

00:55:50.449 --> 00:55:52.949
think they found something of an ancient priest.

00:55:52.809 --> 00:55:56.789
flood civilization. And if that exists, you're

00:55:56.789 --> 00:55:58.869
going to see the Nephilim, you're going to see

00:55:58.869 --> 00:56:01.369
the giants, you're going to see probably pretty

00:56:01.369 --> 00:56:05.110
strange technology that you have no clue that

00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:07.630
existed. And I think there's a race to possibly

00:56:07.630 --> 00:56:11.030
get your hands on it when the weather is cooperating.

00:56:11.070 --> 00:56:13.409
And I think a lot of it has to do with archeological

00:56:13.409 --> 00:56:15.630
digging and trying to figure out what's down

00:56:15.630 --> 00:56:19.510
there. It's a good point. A continent of ice,

00:56:19.590 --> 00:56:22.980
but also. a continent of secrets. Politicians

00:56:22.980 --> 00:56:26.579
flying out, scientists disappear, glaciers bleed

00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:30.500
red, and hidden lakes whisper of pre -flood worlds.

00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.960
Maybe it's just geology and science, or maybe,

00:56:34.139 --> 00:56:36.960
just maybe, Antarctica is the closest thing we

00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.159
have to our forbidden zone, a place God left

00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.679
untouched as a reminder that not everything is

00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:45.960
meant to be uncovered, keeping our eyes on Christ

00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.099
and living our best lives that we can. It's always

00:56:49.099 --> 00:56:52.539
fun to play the Indiana Jones narrative, as I

00:56:52.539 --> 00:56:55.519
like to call it, and discover new findings. But

00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:57.099
keep your eyes on your family, keep your eyes

00:56:57.099 --> 00:56:59.519
on your loved ones, keep your eyes on God, because

00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.420
that's what matters most in this life. And somehow,

00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.019
in some way that is unknown to me, we'll eventually

00:57:06.019 --> 00:57:10.000
connect the dots, whether it's their self -revelation

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.000
or if they're God's revelation. And brother,

00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.099
what do you want to leave with our guest tonight?

00:57:14.380 --> 00:57:16.619
Yeah, man. I think the same thing I say every

00:57:16.619 --> 00:57:19.000
week, man. Jesus loves you. We love you. We would

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.380
love for you to like, subscribe and comment.

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:23.539
We want to enter. We want to, we want to build

00:57:23.539 --> 00:57:25.800
a community around this. And I think the best

00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.500
way to build a community is by interacting. We'd

00:57:28.500 --> 00:57:30.780
love to hear your ideas and love to hear your

00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:32.860
criticism. We're always open to that. And if

00:57:32.860 --> 00:57:34.519
we got, like I said before, if we got something

00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.159
wrong, let us know, man. We're learning too.

00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.480
Conspiracy is such. a robust subject and there

00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.659
are so many minutes in macro ideas that, you

00:57:45.659 --> 00:57:47.400
know, man, we're all here to explore, man. We're

00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.059
here to uncover the truth and find the truth

00:57:50.059 --> 00:57:52.099
through the noise. This important thing. We're

00:57:52.099 --> 00:57:54.719
all learning. We're all learning every single

00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.000
day, man. Tell us why we're wrong. Tell us why

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.199
we're right. Subscribe and talk to us. But ultimately,

00:58:01.500 --> 00:58:04.579
thanks for listening to Zero Signal. More importantly,

00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.519
question everything. Test it against the truth.

00:58:07.710 --> 00:58:10.349
And never forget, the ends of the earth are closer

00:58:10.349 --> 00:58:11.010
than we think.