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Let's crack it open. And this time, I'm going
to ask you to fasten your seatbelts. Antarctica,
the coldest, most remote continent on Earth,
a vast frozen desert buried beneath miles of
ice. For centuries, it was a mystery. a blank
patch on ancient maps, sparking legends and speculation.
Even today, as scientists probe the depths with
cutting -edge tools, Antarctica guards secrets
no one fully understands. Some believe it wasn't
always this way. That long ago, Antarctica was
a lush and green, thriving land, home to ancient
civilizations lost to time. According to this
theory, a flood wiped them out—perhaps the very
flood described in the Bible when the fountains
of the Great Deep burst forth. Then come the
wartime rumors. Secret Nazi expeditions during
World War II, searching for ancient knowledge
or hidden technology, building underground bases
beyond the ice. Supporters of this theory point
to strange old maps, like the Priest -Reese map
of 1513, which some claim to pick Antarctica's
ice -free coastline. And the legends don't stop
there. Stories of the Nephephelium, the biblical
giants and fallen angels frozen beneath the surface,
or entombed in the subterranean chambers waiting.
But Beyond Myth offers real -world wonders. There
are hidden lakes sealed beneath the ice for millions
of years, entire ecosystems thriving in total
darkness around volcanic vents, and massive mountain
ranges buried under glacial sheets untouched
by human eyes. Antarctica isn't just a frozen
wasteland. It's a collision point where science
meets history, myth brushes against reality,
and spiritual lore casts long shadows. So Jay,
with all that in mind, Do you think Antarctica
is hiding ancient truths, or are we just projecting
our deepest mysteries into the land of endless
ice? Yeah, that is a great question. Of all the
conspiracies we talk about on and off the show,
I think this one has a lot of validity and a
lot of potential to have a lot of interesting
secrets. I think one of the most appealing pieces
of evidence is the fact that there's the Antarctica
Treaty of 1959. I don't know the amount of countries
off the top of my head, but there's a ton who
have agreed not to militarize it, not to make
land claims. And you or I just can't go there.
A ton of that continent is off limits. You can't
fly over it. You can't just roll in a ship. That
would be hard most of the year. And you just
can't explore by yourself. And I think that is
super bizarre. And it makes me really curious
as to what the heck's going on down there. One
of the things we learned about in my research
was During the Nazi regime under Hitler, they
had gone down to Antarctica and they were searching
for artifacts during that time and trying to
scour the land. But one of the most important
things that they were trying to do is make a
legal claim to that land saying it's going to
be an extension of the German empire. Do you
think that treaty of 1959 was ultimately because
of that? Like they were trying to prevent people
from making a claim on Antarctica and preventing
people from owning that territory and leaving
it as a scientific discovery versus a national
pride or a national sovereign nation. So you
want to talk about weird kind of conspiracies.
The whole German, the 1938 -1939 German expedition
down there claimed they went down there to secure
a whaling dock or whaling village. Village is
not the right word, but you get what I'm saying.
That seems completely ridiculous to me. You're
about to start World War II. You're about to
start it. And you're going around to Tibet. You're
digging up all sorts of these ancient sites,
trying to find these ancient artifacts or relics.
And Hitler was big into the occult. A lot of
Nazi Civilism is just doused in occult themes.
There's the Thule Society, the Viral Society,
all these people looking for the super race.
Ubermen and it's just bizarre that he would take
the time and expense. It's not like he's Going
over to France or Britain. He's going to the
other side of the world to win You're telling
me he's doing that for whale oil. It doesn't
seem economical at that point So there was something
else going on there. So they went down there
and they called their place new swaddling and
The theory the rumor the conspiracy is that they
created an underground base called base 211 And
after World War II, they all fled down there
and first went to Argentina, then went to base
211. And then we'll get more in depth in this,
but then you've heard of the Operation High Jump,
Admiral Byrd taking 4 ,700 highly armed men,
planes, destroyers, and it's supposed to be a
six month expedition. And after six weeks, they
turn around and apparently they didn't have everybody
with them. They didn't have all the boats. They
had the planes. And the story in that is pretty
wild. Yeah. I think eventually they were chased
out by what was later identified as a UFO. That
was the kind of the last theory of why Amel Bird
and his crew of ships were chased out of Antarctica.
But one of the things I kind of want to touch
on is the Nazi regime. As you mentioned, they
were heavy into the occult and to collect powerful
items. Like one of the things that they were
looking for was the Ark of the Covenant. It was
one of the most powerful items that was found
during the biblical time. So it contained the
power of God. Men couldn't hold it. They couldn't
drop it on the ground. They couldn't touch it
or they would be turned to dust. And it's well
documented that he was looking for these things.
He was looking for the chalice or the carpenter's
cup that Jesus drank out because he thought it
would give him some type of power or perhaps
empower his country, which is ultimately though
he may have gone down there under a ruse because
many people wanted to stake a claim to Antarctica
during that time. So he made up, at least in
my opinion, he made up a fishing whale oil expedition.
I think he was likely looking for the Ark of
the Covenant. One of the interesting things is
if you scan around Antarctica, have you ever
seen the pyramid that sticks out of the surface
level as symmetrical? And it kind of points to
the North, South, East and West. And many people
think it's like one of the latest discovered
or like one of the oldest pyramids. that we have
today, like even predating the Egyptian pyramids.
Have you seen this out there? Yeah, I have seen
some videos and pictures of it. It's pretty interesting.
They claim that the pyramid is something like
2 ,000 meters high, which is insane. And I think
it's 2 ,000 meters on all the bottom base as
well. So that would dwarf anything that... There's
no existence today. I know there has been some
debug debunking done with that and whether or
not that's a siop or if it's a completely different
mountain range, but they claim that it's actually
part of a bigger mountain range, but you can't
really see it because of the ice sheet over top
of it and the heavy snow, but it looks pretty
symmetrical to me. There's some interesting stories
that kind of tie in with that one as well. But
no, I do know what you're talking about. There
are many people that say the pyramid's original
design was to house biblical items. And most
of them say it was the Ark of the Covenant. And
that's why I build that bridge to this gap is
perhaps there is a pyramid there and it's containing
one of the Arks of the Covenant and concealing
it underneath. And perhaps Hitler saw that during
his time. and he was going there to try to make
that discovery. He was trying to find that item
to empower his German empire at that time as
he was getting ready to embark into World War
II and go to war with several nations to secure
his, I don't know, his dream race or whatever
his philosophy was. I do find it really interesting
that you start to see pyramids we start to talk
about ice walls we start to talk about unknown
discoveries and all of a sudden the worst of
the worst show up Hitler himself shows up to
start looking yeah it is interesting I don't
know why he would have any vested interest in
a continent so far away it's not like he's hanging
out it's not like he lives in Australia it's
not like he's in South America it's not easy
to get to that expedition took some time it took
over a year I have a different, my, my own theory
about pyramids. It's interesting that you have
pyramids all across the world and they all don't
look the same, but they had the same general
structure. It's a structure. They, you can't
build them today. It's impossible for us. I know
this entertain me on this one. I think they're
remnants of the pre -world flood. And I honestly
think that. They were not burial chambers for
pharaohs or Amazonian kings or what have you.
I think some of them probably ended up in these
pyramids because once people bloomed in population,
the richest guy on the block, the toughest guy
on the blocks, I want to be buried in there.
That's pretty cool. But I think they were used
for energy. I think they were energy generators
before the flood. Due to their size and mass,
they just weren't. washed away with everything
else. That's almost, it's very close to being
a proven theory because it's foundationally based
upon Nikolai Tesla's innovation that he was trying
to have this unlimited energy. And many people
think that the pyramids connected into a grid
to create this unlimited energy source during
that time. And as you said, like, I agree with
you. I think they were probably pre -flood when
they were built into existence just to based
on the way that they were built. and put into
place. Sometimes I wonder if the nephephelium
helped construct these things during that time
because even though they were fallen angels,
they were known to be mighty men. Like they were
known to be big and strong and being able to
carry these heavy objects. And they had the knowledge,
like they brought the knowledge, some of that
knowledge down from God who gave it to them initially.
So perhaps we're seeing this pre -flood event
come to life and it's interesting how it's starting
to connect to the most unknown place in the world
of this vast frozen desert of Antarctica. You
ever hear the nuclear test theory with the Nazi
expedition? So the theory is that the Nazis fled
Antarctica and sometime after 1945 they detonated
a nuclear weapon down there and they did that
underground. And I guess the theory and this
is so we talk about stuff that is super fantastical
and we talk about stuff that is super scientific.
I think this kind of goes on the super fantastical
side. But the theory is that they set it off
to possibly seal off access to a secret base
or to activate alien technology or to destroy
evidence. But apparently there is some seismic
evidence that There was somehow someone detonated
something down there and a little after 1945.
Well, the only reason I would punch a hole in
that theory is because I think Hitler is such
a horrible human being that if he had a nuclear
weapon, he probably would have used it as his
reign was coming to an end before he put a bullet
in his head. I think he would have used that
new. I absolutely agree. We're just trying to
tie in all the weird Nazi stuff. I don't buy
it for a second. I do think there's a possibility
that base two 11 has some validity. People debunk
it, but at the same time, the government debunks
a lot of stuff that ends up being true. I do
think they went down there. So I think the original
expedition was to set up like a whaling center
and to topographically map Antarctica. And there
was proof that they, I think they took pictures,
aerial pictures of 600 ,000 square kilometers
or miles. I can't remember the number off the
top of my head. And they did chart a lot of the
land. I think it's likely that they kept going
down and they did. build a base. And there are
theories that at the end of the war, a lot of
them went down through Argentina and down to
this base. And that kind of piggybacks, like
I said before, on the conspiracy theory about
Operation Highjump and the US and Admiral Byrd
going down there to try to root them out. But
they got sent back home with a tail between their
legs. Do you know why the Nazis either left or
fled Antarctica during that time? Like, why did
they leave? Is that documented anywhere? So I
think, so I think they left in 1939. So by the
time they got back home, I think World War II
started at the end of 39. So the popular mainstream
theory is that at that point, they just had to
use other resources for war. So they were on
war footing and going back down to Antarctica
wasn't, wasn't a top priority at that point.
I think they stopped a lot of their other type
of exploration into the other artifacts as well
once the war kicked off. That's it. So we have
Hitler that leaves, I think you said during 1939
before World War II. The next document interaction
we have with folks in Antarctica is Admiral Byrd.
Yeah. So I think in 1946, he took 4 ,700 sailors,
war fighters, and airmen down. And the mainstream,
I guess the accepted narrative is that the mission
behind that was to test airplanes and ships in
extreme cold weather. I think they ran into some
issues during World War II and some other expeditions
where planes would fail and crash, mainly because
of fuel gelling. Just the extreme cold temperatures
really affected the mechanical side of the planes
and ships and a lot of them didn't work. So they
went down there to experiment and optimize their
ships. But there are stories that, like you said,
UFOs are flying around they got into a pretty
intense battle. They lost ships They lost planes
and they came back and I wish I had the information
in front of me It's probably my note somewhere,
but that episode is hard to get through He lost
a significant amount of men and it's interesting
because if you pull up the documents Apparently
they are either quote -unquote lost or they were
heavily redacted. Why would you heavily redact
a document? about how to improve your airplanes
and ships. And why would you bring submarines
and destroyers and aircraft that were meant to
fight? I don't understand the concept of that
unless you knew you were going into the battle.
All of his other expeditions, he didn't do that.
Heck, one he went down by himself, I think, for
all intents and purposes. And the one before
this first one, he went with one or two ships,
but they weren't naval combat -ready ships. Yeah,
what's interesting about that is usually the
war fires training for the next mission, meaning
that You think you're gonna go to Vietnam. So
you start to practice in jungle warfare and What
were they anticipating war with? Russia like
the Baltic states at that point in time like
preparing for snow and ice that explanation that
they gave us It doesn't make a lot of sense or
hold water with me because why are you taking
a huge fleet to Antarctica to prepare for? potentially
the next battle Just at the World War two just
ended though. There was some cold. It was an
Antarctica called So it doesn't make a whole
heck of a lot of sense why they would invest
heavily invest all of these resources To train
and a place that very few people have ever gone.
Yeah, have you ever seen the I can only find
one Televised interview with Admiral Byrd. Have
you happen to seen it? I haven't seen that one.
No, it's interesting. It's not very long It's
10 to 14 minutes. I can send you the clip and
you can put it in the show notes, but he was
being interviewed and his opinion was like yours.
But this was in 1956, mind you, this was 10 years
after he did that expedition and he didn't make
a claim that Antarctica was resource rich. He
said there was enough coal just in one mountain
range to supply the energy used for the whole
world. Not that we use coal anymore. He said
he's pretty sure that there was uranium there,
which is what is needed for nuclear bombs and
nuclear power plants. But he did foresee sometime
in the future, there being a possibility of a
war being fought over it. And he did name the
Soviets as the main aggressor. So part of me
wonders too, like maybe he did get in a battle,
but it wasn't with fleeing Nazis, but maybe it
was with the Soviets. And at that time during
World War II, They were all propeller prop planes,
dog fighting. Near the end, the German had some
jet planes. So I'm wondering if the Soviets didn't
get that technology and actually have jets out
there. And they didn't know what the heck they
were seeing because most of those guys probably
weren't heavily involved in World War II or just
didn't see the few sightings of these quote unquote
miracle jet planes that the Nazis had. Because
you've heard of Operation Paperclip where at
the end of World War II, The U .S. tried to get
as many German scientists and engineers to come
over to the U .S. as fast as possible because
the Soviets are doing the same thing. So I think
we ended up getting 2 ,000 scientists and other
Nazi party members to come over. But that's a
topic for another show, but a lot of those guys
got into some pretty high ranking positions in
our government and in our agencies and took a
lot of their knowledge and their policies and
procedures and imported them over here. And I
think we're still seeing some of those today.
It's the great circle because I think at our
very first episode when we were talking about
Project Blue Beam, we mentioned NASA and the
Nazis coming over to foundationally build NASA
from the ground up and get the rockets to the
moon during that time. And one of the really
interesting stories that I heard that came out
of that time is they were very strict with their
employees, like under this Nazi regime. So much
so that when employees slacked off or didn't...
do the things that they were supposed to be doing.
They used to hang them from the rafters and just
run them out of town. It was like that pure Nazi
mentality that really took over NASA during its
very early days. And then we just talk about
the great divide. After World War II, everybody
was picking up the pieces and this is mine, this
is yours. I think ultimately that's where the
great struggle came between the United States
and Russia, even probably to this day as they
try to claim land, whether we try to claim Greenland
or Russia's trying to claim Ukraine and put back
the former Soviet Union as well. And sometimes
I wonder as you were talking about the battle
in Antarctica, I almost wonder was it perhaps
it was a battle between the United States and
Russia during that time and everybody that was
involved in it knew it very well. But they didn't
want to express that to the world. They're just
getting out of World War II. They don't want
to get into another major conflict. And both
sides just agreed to step away and walk away
and leave that place alone and not claim it as
their own. No, I agree. And even at the end of
World War II, General Patton, once they defeated
the Nazi regime, he wanted to go into Russia.
He was like, let me take my men and steamroll
Russia. We might as well get rid of them now
because there'll be a problem in the future.
He was right. But they wouldn't let him do it.
It's a good theory because that's not even a
year after the war ended. Who wants to keep fighting
war? He's burnout. Everybody wants to go home.
Like they live through some of the most horrible
crap any human can imagine. Let's rebuild. Let's
not keep fighting war. Let's tuck this under
the rug and hopefully we can come to a term.
And then not 13 years later, there's a, there's
a treaty saying nobody can lay claim. Nobody
can militarize. the world's biggest demilitarized
zone. And pretty much all the major powers agreed
to it. Do you know why? Do you know why that
treaty came about? So I think, so this is 30
,000 foot view. I think it had to do with the
fact that they wanted to preserve the ecosystem.
They didn't want anybody going down there and
causing potential conflict by harvesting the
resources. So everyone got together and said
that this would just be scientific type center.
So we all can come, we all can do our tests or
experiments, set up our bases. And, but that
seems an almost unbelievable reason for me. It
doesn't make a lot of sense because a lot of
people sign treaties, a lot of people, a lot
of countries turn around and do the exact opposite,
not a decade later. And this seems to be pretty,
pretty on par. Maybe I had something to do with
the fact that We had nuclear weapons. She got
it shortly after. Nobody wanted to upset the
alpha cart. It just seems something that doesn't
pass the smell test to me. Yeah. If from my perspective,
if you're of the, if you're of the worldview
where you think ISIS always existed in Antarctica
and now there's different views out there where
it has and it has not, but it's obviously existed
for a very long time. Maybe not the entire span
of the world, but it's existed for a very long
time. And one of the things that. is always really
fascinating to me as we talk about it. That's
probably the closest representation as you dig
down between miles and miles of ice and you get
to that sediment level where it's been untouched
by humankind. That's about as close as in this
world we're ever going to get to the Garden of
Eden. And you wonder what's, at least me, I wonder
what's there. You're almost starting to see God's
original design for this universe as you get
rid of the ice and you start to see what foundationally
lays there because man hasn't Trumped on top
of it and destroyed it and perhaps it's preserved
like you throw something in your freezer. It's
it's the same whether you put it in today or
a year ago. It's still good to go and there may
not be life down there, but there's probably
some grass. There's probably some type of living
things that live beneath that survived as part
of God's original design. So I see it from a
scientific discovery standpoint. Like it's kind
of like the Amazon juggle where people like,
I don't know if anybody's ever been there. Nobody's
ever discovered it. Let's not win it for everybody
else. So I can see that because I'd be really
interested if we could scrape away all the ice,
like what the heck would we find? Yeah, I just
wonder because the ice sheet is so thick and
it obviously moves. I feel if you're buried under
a mile of ice and it's moving inches or even
centimeters a year, I feel like everything underneath
it would just be ground to a pulp. You wouldn't
really be able to identify much. And then the
constant melting and refreezing. If there are
artifacts or if there are lost civilizations
underneath the ice cap, they're probably ground
down. But who knows? Maybe it's not the case.
Yeah, perhaps it could be what layer you're in,
too. Was there a foundational layer? And then
you're like in mile one. Because I saw somewhere
like if we talk about the ice wall that exists
today, some people say it's three miles deep,
right? Like through ice. And it's like, what
layer there do you exist? Because if you're right
in the middle, You're pretty well preserved at
that point in time. True. Yeah. I know we're
shifting subjects, but the ice wall, like the
flat earth people, like Antarctica is one. So
you have the earth and then Antarctica is actually
an ice wall that goes all around the earth to
keep, you know, to keep water and people from
being able to get off. But there's also, I forget
what the freaking name of the theory is, but
there's also a theory that the earth is a globe,
but we are not. The only significant, like the
landmass we see on our maps is not the only landmass.
Some claim that there's a tunnel or a path through
the ice wall that kind of goes out to another
type of rather large earth shaped landmass that
has a completely different civilization. Again,
we're just, we're talking about some of the fantastical
stuff, but it's still interesting to think about.
And sometimes you sometimes conspiracy is entertainment.
And it's funny. At some point we may do an episode
on there's people that claim that they did go
through. This breach in the ice wall and came
out to another side and they were met by of all
things human But they were much more advanced
and they were like you can't be here. You have
to go back interesting story How credible it
is probably not very but it's a great sci -fi
novel sci -fi movie stuff But it's still fun
to think about couldn't they just fly over it
though if they're like super advanced Some of
these people claim that these are the airlines
were saying or the people on the other side of
the eye and they say the ice wall like it's rather
high, but it's also 2000 miles long or longer.
So for our planes to fly through it, like you
would need to refuel. So it's almost impossible.
The people that claim to have sailed to go through
it claim to do it by boat. Gotcha. That's an
interesting theory. There are some maps. There
are some interesting maps online. So these people
don't necessarily believe that the earth is flat.
They just think the earth is a hundred times
larger, thousand times larger than it really
is. And it's a globe. Yeah. I just wonder because
it's, it could be a PsyOps, but I just wonder
because we have so many pictures of the earth
now that like, how could we not see it based
on all these satellites sending imagery back?
It makes me think of this one theory. Have you
heard the theory where many people think that
Antarctica is formally Atlantis? Yeah, I think
Hitler believed that, at least to some extent.
He thought the lost city of Atlantis or Hyperborea
was down there. Gotcha. Yeah. So there's a theory
because of where it exists towards the Ring of
Fire and the tectonic plates on our globe, it
can cause catamclismic events. And there's a
theory out there that says at one time, there's
a point, there's a theory out there that one
time people said Anarcha was a kind of a point
north. or more northerly and it has subtropical
climate where, you know, a super advanced race
of people existed. And that kind of makes me
think of pre -flood days in the nephephelium
where they had Atlantis. And then they had this
major cataclysmic event that triggered a major
shift, destroyed the civilization that lived
there. And it shifted into this super cold zone
at that time. Yeah. So another thing that was
claimed with this Hitler expedition and this
base 211 is that the theory is that Hitler thought
slash knew there was an advanced civilization
down there in Antarctica. And part of the reason
to go down there was to acquire their advanced
technology to help them win the war. Again, I
think he gleaned some of this, some of his theories
from his occult background. tool society, the
viral society. So it's just interesting that
a lot of these, a lot of these occult things
point to, if we want to talk about stuff we talked
about in previous episodes, like this project
blue beam, but that was part of the speculation
that we want it advanced, not necessarily even
the alien technology, this advanced technology
from an advanced civilization that still resided
here on earth. And you, it makes me wonder what's
still down there. So I was watching this episode
of the Y -File and the military back in 2003
had dispatched a group of army Rangers to go
down and recover this scientist that was out
in the wild. According to the report, he had
very important information and they wanted them
to go out there, recover him and bring him back.
As they land in this particular spot in Antarctica,
they walk down this pathway. And eventually they
come to this structure that has a door that is
somewhere near 20 feet tall. The squad approaches
the door, they push on it, and the door is perfectly
balanced. The door opens up, they enter in, and
they enter into this massive complex. They said
it must have been somewhere around 400 ,000 square
feet. The walls were glowing green. They weren't
sure how they were emitting light at that point
in time, but they were looking for the scientist.
And eventually as they walked down this weird
corridor, what they viewed as ancient alien technology.
They finally met up with the scientists who told
them that the structure was much bigger as it
went underground. And I think even more importantly
is they weren't, they didn't know how the walls
were glowing, but it was also like 70 degrees
inside the structure. So it was also being heated
from some unknown source as well. Anyways, they
recovered the scientists and they ultimately
leave, but there is some speculation from this
mission that perhaps there is some alien technology
that's in Antarctica. Are there something unknown
or perhaps some type of technology or weapons
that we are not aware of as a society today?
Yeah. I've never heard of this story. So why
did the scientists find this place and get lost
and couldn't get back home? Or were they taken
there? What's the deal with that? Yeah. So there's
only one scientist in this particular journey.
And there's a lot of military files that had
been released, but in this particular journey,
there was only one scientist and supposedly he
was down there just to take pictures of the ice
wall. So he, and The Rangers were very confused
of why they were going down to rescue a scientist
who was only taking pictures to document what
the ice wall looked like. But somehow he relayed
information back to the United States that he
had very valuable intelligence. So they dispatched
a unit out there. And this is what the guys said
as they left. And obviously, the rest is probably
still not talked about or classified. But they
did mention this really tall door that was perfectly
balanced with the emitting lights that are coming
out of the wall, which I find just fascinating
like what could this actually be but like a remnants
of a former society weird he'd be there by himself
and that bizarre of all places in the Antarctic
oh and perhaps you worry because it makes me
think of another story and I don't remember the
exact date off the top of my head. I think it
was somewhere around 2001 or 2003. There were
15 scientists down at a research base in Antarctica.
Part of their duties was once a day they were
supposed to check in, I think with the United
States government who was running it. There was
a scientific department that was leading it,
but they were supposed to check in. Now three
days go by and nobody ever checks in. They're
like, holy crap. Like they have enough material
to live. Like they got a heated structure. They
got food for a month. They are very comfortable,
but in order for their safety, they're supposed
to check in once a day. As three days goes by,
they don't hear from these scientists. They eventually
dispatch another unit of the army rangers to
go down and check on them. They fly in, they
drop at their little airfield there. They unload,
and there's actually video footage of this. They
unload, they go into the scientific research
station. It's in perfect order. The shelves are
stocked, the computers are on, everything is
functioning as normal. The one weird thing is,
of those 15 people, nobody was there. They searched
and searched, and they searched this entire scientific
research station, and they never found anybody.
And they're like... I don't know if they've gone
out on a discovery mission and they're like out
in the wilds, but they're not going to last that
long. So they waited around. You're only going
to survive out in this cold of temperatures for
an hour or two before you have to return and
warm up or you're good as dead. They waited around
and I don't know how many hours they ultimately
waited, but eventually they gave up and went
home and says it's not uncommon for people to
go out and die and never return. But at this
point, we can safely say that wherever they are,
they're not coming back. They returned to their
ship where they were stationed. About a week
goes by and they get a panic call from the research
station. Scientists screaming on the phone, come
pick us up. So they dispatch the same unit back
up. They pick up the 15 scientists. They load
them up into a giant airplane. They said as they're
flying them, the weird thing about the scientists
during this time is they wouldn't talk. They
wouldn't move. They're catatonic. They just sat
there. As they landed into their next destination
was about three hours by flight. They still didn't
move. Like they had to bring personnel onto the
aircraft to unbuckle them and to carry them out
because a lot of people say that they're in PDP.
They had PTSD. They were in shock. I have a little
bit of PTSD myself because my former background,
I don't think it would make me cantatonic though.
I don't want to compare everybody's personal
experience, but I do find it strange. More importantly,
what were they, where were they for that week?
Where they continued not to check in, where they
flown people down there and they waited hours
and they never found them. like where were these
scientists and they never spoke out like the
next thing we said is they had flown some people
down from Washington DC had met with these scientists
and basically told them to us this never happened
don't talk about it and that's where the story
fades away and there may be some as you say fantastical
elements mixed in here but it's clear that a
lot of this is reality this did happen they're
not covering it up so it makes you wonder like
where did these people disappear for a week out
in Antarctica where you can only survive for
hours, not even weeks or days in that environment.
But really interesting story. And you don't know
a lot about it, but we know that it's not possible
under our current understandings. Do you happen
to know what year that event was claimed to take
place? It was early 2000s. I want to say it was
either 2001 or 2003. I can shoot you the article
and I can link it in the show notes so that we
have it. But yeah, it was early 2000s. You know
what that reminds me of the reason I asked what
year that was, because I don't know if you may
or may not remember this, but back in 2016, you
had like John Kerry, some Eastern Orthodox Pope,
you believe Obama all going down to Antarctica
to see stuff that. Yeah. Yeah. So this is a big
thing. So during that, I remember seeing it on
the news when it was unfolding, quote unquote,
real time. And my first thought was. kind of
heck are all these powerful politicians and world
leaders going down to Antarctica, including high
up members of the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox
Church. That is super bizarre. What is what's
going on? And I know right around that time as
well, maybe a little after Buzz Aldrin went down
there for apparently a guided expedition. He
had to get life. lighted out to New Zealand because
he had some sort of congestive heart failure.
But sometime between when he was in Antarctica,
when he got to the hospital, he sent out a tweet.
Oh man, where's the tweet? I sent it to you.
It was something like pure evil exists there.
Yeah. I just want to make sure I get this right
because it freaks me out. Yeah. He tweeted and
then later deleted the tweet. We are all in danger.
This is evil itself. Or it is evil itself. What
is he talking about? That's super, super bizarre.
So it almost sounds to me like in 2016, something
was found. I bet is two things. An ancient past
civilization site or some sort of weird ancient
technology. And everybody was going down there
to check it out and see what it was. It's also
bizarre too, that you would send religious leaders
down there. Let's point back to project Bloobie.
Again, let's get a little fantastical here. Did
you meet someone down there? Meet something down
there that made you question history, reality
as you know it, and they're sending everyone
to check it out and give their own opinion. It's
just super bizarre. It's a super bizarre treat.
They say people have returned, and I don't know
if this has been substantiated or not, but evidently
there's this massive facility. I think they say
it was something like four million square feet,
that is, as you went down, down a level. It just
opened up and it was large. And there's many
entrances. One, they have access to where the
scientists, I guess, found and where the Rangers
ultimately want to rescue him, where they found,
but they said they can also be reached by some
Marine. And I saw this earlier today where now
there's some entrances that as you go down the
ice sheet, you start to hit water. Some Marines
have been going down under that to reach these
entrances. interact. And though they didn't say
what it was, they say those areas of this particular
facility are not vacant. Something exists there.
Some type of, they didn't say humans, but they
said some type of live creature exists and occupy
the structure under those deep levels of it.
The other interesting thing is that you go to
Google Earth and most of Antarctica, the satellite
imagery is not available. I also think that's
super bizarre. There are some people making claims
that there are huge, I don't want to call them
don'ts, but huge craters in the ground that are
void of ice. And some people point that to this
claim that Hitler detonated nuclear weapons down
there. It's interesting. Obviously you can't
verify that exists anymore and those images are
either gone or been scrubbed. So it's interesting.
And it's also interesting that We talked, we
touched it on it at the beginning of the show
that you can't go there, man. You can't go there.
It's interesting. There's over 70 permanent research
facilities across Antarctica. The 70 permanent
research stations are operated by about 30 countries.
Most of them range from year round stations to
seasonal only. 40 plus year round permanent staff
during the winter. 30 seasonal opens only during.
the Antarctica summer, which is October through
February, which is another interesting thing
that Admiral Byrd decided to bounce out in the
Antarctic summer. I'm sure weather varies, but
still a little bit bizarre considering he was
equipped to be down there for six months. Summer
population is between four and 5 ,000 people,
mostly scientists support TAF. support staff,
military, and logistics. And in the winter, roughly
800 to 1 ,000 people, mostly essential staff
only. There's no permanent residents or citizens.
Everybody's either a temporary researcher, support
personnel, or military logistics staff. Again,
it's interesting that they keep throwing out
military and logistics staff. I know military
does a lot with fly -ins and fly -outs over there.
So that's probably the main way to transport
the government scientists. It looks like the
U .S. has three main bases in Mercado and a couple
smaller ones in the South Pole. Oddly enough,
the country that has the most bases is Argentina.
It's not odd because it's fairly close, but it's
odd because it's relatively a small country compared,
or at least in terms of GDP compared to some
of the more powerful nations. A close second
is Chile, and coming in number three is Russia.
And then everyone else seems to have... There's
a few bigger countries that have one or two main
bases there. Interesting stuff. Yeah. I almost
wonder why people invest so much money to build
these military bases in Antarctica because most
of the land is inhospitable. Like it's a frozen
desert. And even if you're going to extract resources,
it's going to take so much money that it's going
to engulf a lot of these nations GDP in the first
place. And it's almost Is there a reason? Is
that like part of their stake in the claim that
we own a part of this country? Or I don't even
know what you refer to it as, this continent?
Or is it something different? Do they know something
that we don't know? And the reason why they think
it's so valuable that they exist there. I know.
So before the 1959 treaty, there were several
countries that had made land claims in Antarctica.
I think Australia was a big one. Obviously Russia.
I'm not sure the US actually ever made a claim.
Obviously Germany did, but when they lost the
war, that kind of went out the window. But even
with all these claims, when these countries signed
the Antarctic, the Antarctica Treaty in 59, they
gave up those claims, which is interesting. Just
to touch on the treaty rules, number one, no
military use, no mineral mining, no territorial
claims to be recognized or expanded. Like I said,
some countries have made claims on Antarctica
before that treaty and there must be scientific
cooperation in environmental protection. So it's
interesting that we can barely work together
in the world, but we seem to work together pretty
good down there. We can do the same thing with
outer space. Let's go claim the moon, man. I'd
tell you, my former boss wants to build an Amazon
facility on the moon and shift production to
the moon. I don't know how he's going to make
it a reality. It seems really expensive, but
that is his dream. I think Elon Musk wants to
make a moon base as well to use as a hub to get
to Mars. That makes a little more sense versus
shipping your Amazon packages to your front door.
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Unless he's
drilling for... Minerals or whatever else might
be up there. Yeah Should be an interesting episode
to do the moon The lunar landings and to talk
about the dark side of the moon I think we could
do a full episode on that one man thinking of
Buzz Aldrin. Have you seen the videos where he's
talking to people? He's like because he was a
second man to step foot on the moon But have
you seen the videos where he says? Yeah, we never
went to the moon. It's crazy man. It blows your
mind cuz you're like This guy is famous for being
an astronaut, for being the second guy to step
on the moon. And he's saying we've never been
there. Is he losing his mind? And maybe that's
why he sent that tweet out about Antarctica.
Or is he trying to give us a little bit of a
blip on the radar as to what's going on? So I
wonder if he's in his late eighties, I think
now. So I wonder if dementia or aphasia or something
starting to kick in a little bit that's tweaking
his memories. But I also have my doubts if we
actually went to the moon. We haven't been back
in a very long time, and our technology is 1
,000 % better than our modern era. So I do have
some doubts if we've actually physically been
there as well, because we're talking now, and
we'll talk about this in a future episode, but
we're talking about a time that was very competitive
of who's the first person going to make it to
the moon, and it was very competitive between
us and Russia at that time. So it was a sense
of national pride as a sense of national engagement.
We wanted to be the first ones there. Now, did
we make it up? I don't know, but I do have some
doubts if we actually land. Yeah, I'm on the
same page as you are. I don't necessarily think
that we made it. I know it's a proven fact and
correct me if I'm wrong, but all that video,
like that famous video where he's stepping on
the moon and bouncing up and down was made on
the Hollywood set. You can't prove it. If you
ever seen the video, it's very grainy and evidently
it's a video of a video. And that's why it's
so grainy at that time. And you start to see
these like weird reflections, but what you can
see is the inconsistencies of it, right? The
way the American flag like floats in space. So
the sunshine, like having the shadow effect on
the moon and not that we understand all that
stuff. At least I'm sure some people do. I don't,
but it's highly suspect of what you'd perceive
is actually being on. I think, I think I don't
want to call it a conspiracy at this point, but
I also don't want to say it's the official narrative.
I think a pretty mainline stream of thinking
is that they taped it on a Hollywood set because
they didn't have the technology to actually send
the video back to earth or to record the video
yet. So they still claim that we've been there,
but what you're seeing is not actually from the
moon. That's awfully convenient. Dude, I'm not
like, listen, I'm not trying to derail the show.
Have you seen, so there was a big story a few
years ago of like astronomers. They find like
a cool planet or a cool star and they take like
these high res, high resolution photos and they
publish them on like NASA websites or national,
whatever big like mainstream type of media. And
one of them got caught claiming that they took
this really cool picture of a planet and they
got caught. They took a piece of like pepperoni
sliced it, took a picture of it and claimed it
was a planet. They just had to be trolling him
at that point. I don't know, man. This person
seemed like they actually had a legit career.
They were like, they had all like the neat letters
after their name and had some sort of bonafide
career in this industry. And they got caught
taking a picture of pepperoni and saying it's
this distant planet that they discovered. Maybe
it was only for clout or for the reputation or
the resume. Come on, pepperoni? Give me a break.
Bet those guys when they discover stuff they
get like a bonus Here's a check like your 30k
a good job you discover something neat or you
took a picture of something neat that were Distributing
around and you always wonder if corruption comes
into play as well. I'm sure I'm sure you get
great jobs at universities these telescopes the
astronomy labs I'm sure if if you're publicized
and you have a pretty thick cool -looking resume
people are gonna be more apt to give you that
job teaching the up -and -coming youth how to
Take pictures of pepperoni. Take pictures of
pepperoni. Was this guy also a chef? I think
it was a woman, if I remember correctly. Again,
this is stuff I know off the top of my head.
Yeah. Oh, this, the pepperoni is the perfect
solar star. Nobody will know. Man, it's just,
the world's a crazy place, man. You can't make
it up. So have you heard of the animal birds
diary conspiracy? No, I haven't. Dude, so this
one, it gets pretty wild. So I think it was his
son claimed to have found his diary after he
died in 1956. So he made his rounds around popular
and even not so popular circles, but essentially,
and I'm going to chop this up and give you the
brief view of it, but he claimed that during
operation high jump or one of his other No, I
think it was the operation high jump. He was
flying over Antarctica with a couple of his navigators,
just trying to find, just trying to chart Antarctica.
And in the process, he, as he's flying over the
ice wall, he starts to note that he sees lush
green forest and he's shocked and he's thinking
to himself, well, this doesn't make any sense.
And then somewhere in a little bit further into
the diary, he notes that he sees what looks Like
a hairy elephant. Then he's, that's a mammoth.
Like there's a mammoth right here. So as they're
flying, he noticed that there's no sun. He can't
pinpoint where the sun is because he's using
that to navigate down there where he's at. So
he starts to freak out. As they're flying, he
gets a radio transmission from someone who sounds
German saying, Hey, Admiral Byrd, you're fine.
We're going to guide you in. Just set back. We
have control of the plane. He sees two Flying
disc saucers pull up next to him. He's freaking
out who wouldn't be freaking out at this point.
So they guide him in he lands and he lands on
this In his words very robust very technologically
advanced city. He gets out of the plane. He meets
two very tall white unhaired blue -eyed Kind
of Aryan looking men. And they escort him into
this hall and he meets someone called the master.
Bizarre name for somebody, the master. So the
master proceeds to tell him like, Hey, you're
an honorable guy. I think people will listen
to you. So I have a message for you to bring
back to your leaders and to the world. And essentially
the boil down the message is that you guys are
messing around with nuclear weapons. You need
to stop. You guys are going to destroy yourself
in the earth in the process. And. You guys if
you guys can make peace if you can come together
and work things out you have access to unlimited
Technology and a great peaceful future together
and they ship them back off So this was all apparently
inside of a diary that his son found bizarre
story I know but it's also interesting to that
every like all this occult stuff all this new
age religion stuff people talking to quote -unquote
angels, which I Which I called demons or fallen
ones. The big things are their hangups are nuclear
weapons and climate change. It's all, the only
two messages these people get. And it's just
freaking bizarre, man. It's crazy. As a former
detective, I think about chain of custody. So
his son found this diary. Did they authenticate
it by like handwriting analysis? Did they do
any like deep research that actually belonged
to Admiral Byrd or are we just taking his son
or? Was it a son or grandson's word of mouth?
So apparently it was his son. I think, I think
it has been debunked, but a lot of conspiracy
theorists still hold onto it as evidenced. Let's
talk about this master fellow or whatever it
is. Why would you pick one dude to bring? You
have all this advanced technology. Why wouldn't
you just go and tell them yourself? Like, why
do you just send one guy? That right there doesn't
make any sense. Or even send a message. whether
it's through the radio waves or whatever to the
masses. The other interesting part, the part
that was highly bizarre was that the insignias
on these flying saucers that were escorting them
had Nazi insignias on. It is interesting. It
almost sounds like a piece of science fiction.
It does. So when we talk about the Nazi insignia,
it's the broken cross, which actually predates
the Nazi empire. He bastardized it. He took it
in as of itself and it in though Europeans thing
like symbol or something that's been around for
a long time and a lot of people kind of want
to I Think it's probably trying to take a hit
at Christianity and breaking that cross I could
be wrong, but it's interesting I was talking
about when those Rangers came to the unique structure
in the ice where they were They took that researcher
out by himself who made the major discovery.
As they entered that building, they saw all these
hieroglyphics on the walls. They weren't Nazi
symbols, but they said it looked like ancient
Egyptian, like hieroglyphics that just went down
the wall. They didn't understand them. They wanted
them to be researched, but somebody was writing
out there. I don't know, man. For me, when I
see these things, I think of pre -flood. I think
of the nephephelium. I think of the fallen angels
and the influence, though it's a very small section
of our Bible because the story of Enoch, I think
the story of Enoch was taken out. It was decanonized.
During that time, they talked a lot about the
nephephelium, but I always think of it because
they call them the men of renown in the Bible.
And they were known to be very powerful, very
strong, very big. And to create these amazing
things that kind of predate our modern era, I
wonder what influence they had. Because of that,
like we saw with the Tower of Babel, as the tower
starts to reach towards the heavens, God destroyed
it. And they said, you know what, instead of
worshiping yourself and building your fancy machines,
your fancy towers, turn your eyes back towards
me. And I wonder if we're starting to see those
remnants of it in Antarctica, where they have
these like really amazing buildings and amazing
technology that many years ago, the gods have
said, you know what? That's done. Focus back
towards me. Think about it. It'd be a great place.
If it does exist down there, probably be the
one area where you could find it undisturbed.
I think just over the course of civilization,
especially in Europe and Asia, even not so bad
here in North America, but a lot of civilizations
built on top of old civilization. So a lot of
that stuff gets destroyed in war. A lot of that
stuff gets buried under a new set of buildings.
So it's really hard to see because it's the sheer
amount of people. coming in and out of the planet
in that particular landmass over thousands and
thousands of years. You can see it in like France
and even like London, like there's underground
catacombs. There's archaeologists dig and they
find civilizations under civilizations because
they're just built on top of it. It's wild, but
Antarctica would be one of the few places where
if they were left intact, They would just be
under ice and they wouldn't be trampled over
by the humans that come after the fact. It's
interesting because the Bible often refers to
the ends of the earth as places of spiritual
testing, exile, or divine encounters. And I almost
wonder if there's a hidden message in there.
When we think of Antarctica, we think of the
ends of the earth. Most people don't understand
it. Outside of our total comprehension as a society
today, and I wonder if that's almost means like
we talk about preservation and these divine encounters
whether it be heavenly encounters or They'll
cult the counters. I Wonder if that's what he's
referring to if you think about it, too So say
this is I don't necessarily believe in aliens.
I think they're I think they're I think a lot
of it's either government and demonic activity,
but Let's just indulge me here If you are an
alien, and you're visiting a planet with eight
billion people, where are you going to set up
shop? You're going to set up shop under the ocean,
or you're going to set up shop in the Arctic
or Antarctic, where nobody's around, where nobody
can bother you, where nobody can see you. If
you have all this technology, it's not like you
can't fly back and forth in seconds, given how
fast some of these craft are planning to be going.
So why wouldn't you set up in Antarctica? I would.
I'm outside out of mind. I can do whatever I
want. No one's going to bother me or I do it
underneath the ocean. They're inhospitable locations.
So as long as you can survive there, it's the
perfect place. And I imagine that fallen angels
probably can survive anywhere here in the world.
It's a perfect place to hide out. I personally
don't believe in UFOs. I think if, I think God
would talk about them, that it's why it goes
back to my worldview. What we know in the Bible
what he teaches us is ultimately like the ultimate
discovery And I think he probably would have
warned us about it as well So we wouldn't get
sidetracked like we wouldn't fall and worship
other gods just because an alien showed up So
that's why I always talk about like the nephephelium
and stuff is because that's my worldview It's
a biblical narrative of how can you explain these
really unusual facts and circumstances? And I
think it's centered around the fallen angels
and centered around God and Christ and all these
things that God delivered to us in a message.
I mean, it's definitely a battle against powers
and principalities. Christ even says that. And
I think they have a lot of influence on our society,
even to a certain extent, our personal lives,
just manipulation and all that crazy stuff. Oh,
you know the story of Superman. We used to love
that movie when we were kids. It's interesting
that the Fortress of Solitude was somewhere in
Place that looked like the Arctic or the Antarctic.
So sometimes I think you get this reflection
from media To maybe some hidden truth. It's just
interesting like you you have a Superman which
would be considered a little G God back in the
day Nephilim with these superpowers that can
fly all around and where does he go to hide?
Where does he go to get his mind back together?
Where does he go to recover? He goes to the middle
of a freaking ice desert So I got to ask you
a question. So, Wynn, are you of the school of
thought that Antarctica has always been covered
by ice and snow? I am not, because I think pre
-flood, I'm not sure that there was actually
any... I'm not under the belief. I think pre
-flood, the Earth was very lush. I think it was
much warmer. I think the atmosphere was much
denser. And I think the oxygen content was much
greater. I think the ice, this is just my personal
opinion, I think these ice caps and these vast
swaths of cold regions in our north and south
are a product of post -flood weather. I think
it's a good thought for sure. One of the things
I think about when we think about Antarctica
is the hollow earth theory. Have you heard of
the hollow earth theory? I have. One of the,
and we could talk about a little bit, but one
of the things I think about is during Noah's
time, they talk about not only like the rain
falling down, but the waters coming from below.
And if I think about how this magnificent ice
wall was built and developed, like three miles
deep, I saw a study where like one point it was
three miles deep of just solid ice. I almost
wonder, did God punch the hole there to flood
the earth from below in this crater that evidently
exists there? And as the water shot up and started
freezing in the world, perhaps it started also
like changing the temperature of the world and
it started to build the ice wall from the frigid
temperatures. So I wonder, most wonder if the
waters from below came from there. In my opinion,
it would make sense is like how you fill up a
bathtub, right? It's at one end of the world.
And as it starts to fill up with rain and from
the waters from below. So maybe you can talk
a little bit about the hollow earth theory for
our viewers, but I wonder if there is some connective
tissue there. Yeah, I kind of struggle with the
hollow earth theory. The reason I struggle with
it is because you've heard of the concept of
Pangea where like all continents were like, you
can even look at the map. They all fit them together
perfectly. I personally think, and just as my,
this is just my opinion for now, and I could
be open to change. I think when the floods started,
I think what happened was like. I think if the
earth is hollow, that's where a bunch of water
was before. And then obviously you had the ferment
and I think the ferment collapsed. So it started
pouring down rain and I think the earth expanded
and when it expanded, the crust broke apart and
water started flooding up too. So do I think
the earth is hollow? No. Do I think that there's
pockets that could, if you were advanced enough,
like that you could make work for like something
like a city? Yeah, of course. There's massive
caves underground. But I don't believe that there's
the outer earth and then there's an inner earth
with a smaller globe, with its own sun, where
there's another population. Though there are
lots of stories of people going down there and
saying that's the case. I don't believe any of
them personally. I don't believe me either. And
I wonder if it's like figurative because I think
at the center of the earth, at least is what
the scientists tell you, is there is like a core
of molten lava that's like at the center. It's,
and then it's protected by, it reminds me of
that. I think the hole is in Russia, where they
dug the deepest hole in the world and they dug
down as far as they could go. And a lot of people
call it the pit of hell today. As they opened
up this hole, they hear people screaming and
crying and gnashing of teeth as they got far
down. Have you heard about that? Yeah. If you
want to get like, so the Bible touches that like
hell is actually in the center of the earth.
Yeah. But not like it's a different dimension
within Within the earth, I don't know. I think
heaven's a different dimension. I don't think
you fly out of space and meet God I also think
earth was made for man to inhabit So what's to
say that his souls aren't trapped here just in
a different dimension aka hell No, but I do think
there's vast caverns in there like caverns. You
probably fit 10 million people whether or not
anyone's there and I'm probably not whether or
not there's cities down there probably not You've
heard of the deep underground bases. We make
them all the time in this country. And some of
them, they're stories, legit stories of guys
driving trucks underneath a mountain. And they're
just going down and down trucks delivering massive
amounts of goods. And they say these places are
freaking like cities. So I think if that is my
opinion, what Hollow Earth is, people digging
underground, structuring it, making like a doomsday
type bunker for. government continuity, if there's
a war. And part of me thinks, again, another
episode, part of me thinks that sometimes I wonder
if these people are planning for like an asteroid
hit, or maybe they know if something's coming,
because there's a lot of money. We're $30 trillion
in debt in the United States. That money's going
somewhere. It's not going to food stamps and
whatever else you may have. It doesn't make a
whole lot of sense. Again, different episode,
different topic. I would love to do that one
soon, because I think that one's super interesting
and there's a lot of hard evidence. A lot of
it's just not conspiracy. A lot of it is backed
up by, by hard evidence. We know that they make
bunkers. I went to Fork Union Military Academy.
The kind of the short, very short history of
that is even though it was just a high school
and grade school for kids that went there during
World War II, it was actually a target. And even
during the Cold War, it was a target. because
people thought it was actually a military base
and not just like a school for kids during that
time. And I remember when I went to school there,
me and my buddies would sneak out at night and
there was like hidden underground bunkers underneath
the school there. And I don't know how deep they
were. They didn't feel super deep. It was like
probably two stories deep that would go down.
And there was all this old furniture and old
barrels and old food that would just be stockpiled
underneath. And that's what they did for like
a high school Kids, could you imagine what they
do for the president and for Congress and the
Senate? They're drilling into mountains. They're
drilling way underneath because they're supposedly
going to survive that doomsday event. Now, I
don't believe that. I think when God destroys
the world, he's going to, he's going to judge
everybody. So no matter where you hide, you're
not going to be protected, but it's pretty interesting
to think about those circumstances. Yeah. I mean,
so I think one of the big underground quote unquote
underground cities or civilizations is called
Agartha. And it's claims that it's underground.
And again, same old dog and pony show, like advanced
technology, great peaceful civilization. Everyone's
super enlightened and philosophical. Yeah, you
can go down the line. It'd be interesting to
do a deep dive on that one, for sure. It's funny
because we talk about these theories, these conspiracies,
and they all like have a similar thread going
through. Pulling a thread and you get somewhere
else. You pull on a thread and it's just like
that rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper
every time. And it's interesting. That's why
I love the topic. I just think that a lot has
been interjected into it. Again, we talk about
this nine truths and one lie. Good luck trying
to find the lie. You know, to me, it always comes
down to one thing because we always have a similar
conversation where we talk about Project Bluebeam.
We talk about Prospera or we talk about Antarctica
today and perhaps next week. To me, it always
comes down to three things. God, money, and power.
Because that's humanity. Either you seek God
or you seek money and power. And people are hoping
to influence that. And people are going to tell
a thousand lies in order to get their way, whether
it be the government of the United States trying
to cover stuff up, or people trying to spin their
own narrative, or people trying to tell the truth
of what they found out there. But it always comes
down to those central themes. As I mentioned,
we're going to pick this episode up next week
to talk about more about Antarctica and all the
findings that were down there reminds me of Indiana
Jones. I love that movie growing up. There's
a whole lot of discoveries to be made. You talk
about Indiana Jones. As I was researching this
episode, especially with the Hitler stuff, you
remember all the movies. He's always fighting
Nazis, trying to get all the artifacts. It is
funny how again, popular culture kind of. reflects
reality and conspiracy. It's fun. It's a fun
interaction. And for me, and I think we've talked
about this before, conspiracy is a lot about
trying to find the truth in the entertainment,
trying to find the truth in the fantasy. In my
opinion, I do think, I think there's enough circumstantial
evidence to suggest that there is something down
there. Do I think it's aliens? No. Do I think
it's remnants of a lost civilization? Absolutely.
Absolutely. A good possibility. Do I think there's
old angelic pre -flood technology that they discovered?
I think that's a great possibility. And if there
are talking to beings down there, they're talking
to demons, man, or the fallen ones. But I don't
think it's a little green man from Pluto coming
down to... Drop a little knowledge seed on all
of us Pluto's not even a planet anymore. So it's
just like a rocket space or so Yeah, as I think
about this stuff, that's a whole lot of fun They
reminds me like I said of my favorite movie growing
up Indiana Jones swinging the whip fighting the
Nazis off and making new discoveries I think
ultimately is with everything that we do. There's
a mixture between reality and perception And
trying to find that truth is one of the most
important things we could do, whether biblically
or through these narratives that we experienced
throughout our life. There's a lot of people
that are going to tell you stuff is not true
or whether it's not true about God. They're wrong.
Whether it's not true about these civilizations
or these government projects that are going on
or the threats of wars or whatever it may be.
There's a lot of people that are going on to
manipulate you and change your mind because it
goes after their narrative. I think it's always.
good to have discernment and to think critically.
And sometimes it's just fun, but as we progress
as a society or as we progress as people, as
we march towards the end times, discernment is
going to be really valuable because it opens
your eyes to things that you should not be looking
at, meaning that you can't be persuaded by the
false prophet. So the more you know, and as that
age old adage comes, knowledge is power. So it's
important to do these independent discoveries
yourself, to collect the information. And ultimately,
it just teaches you how to do it, right? As you
focus your eyes on the Lord, which I think is
the most important thing that we do. For me,
I too, I don't believe in aliens. I think God
would have talked about them if they existed
because he would have warned us and prepared
our hearts and minds. Ancient civilizations,
I agree. I think that there's something to that.
I always go back to the fallen angels. I wonder
how much influence they had on our society. They
must have had a lot of influence because God
destroyed them. It was bad. God found them, thought
it was bad. And it wasn't just bad because they
rejected God, much like Satan did. It was bad
because of the influence. It was turning people
against God. It was changing their hearts. I
think there's something there. I think there's
a lot of discoveries that still need to be made.
I wish we would invest more time and resources
into making discoveries here in our world versus
maybe shooting rockets off an outer space where
it matters less because it's more important here.
But yeah, I think the truth is ultimately out
there. And I think it's important that we discover
it. Yeah. Like I said, just the circumstantial
evidence, the tree, the fact that you and I,
again, I get you and I would not survive in Antarctica.
Let's be real. But the fact that People who are
well equipped just can't go and explore. Tips,
tips me off a little bit that something's there
that they don't want you to see. And then the
satellite imagery that's not on Google Earth
or any sort of satellite type software you can
use. Another weird one. So those three, three
things alone points in, it is a conspiracy. That's
the definition of a conspiracy. You're putting
the pieces together. You're trying to control
the information and control the narrative. To
let people know what you think and not what the
truth is And it's what's funny is it starts to
day one because if you ever look at a modern
-day map Antarctica like stretches all across
the bottle Shape. Yeah, but if you look at it's
actually not reality It's about the size of maybe
North America like a little bit smaller than
Canada and America combined so they started spinning
those lies from day one as they created the maps
and If you ask a lot of people the shape of it,
they probably couldn't tell you Yeah, the other,
the last thing I want to talk about before I,
before we close out the Perry Reese map, I think
you brought up at the beginning of the intro.
So when he mapped that he didn't map it with
ice and that was back in 15 something. He very
well could have been, he very well could have
thought he was in Antarctica, but been in maybe
Australia or South America and just got confused.
But they said the coastline lines up pretty close
to what it is today, at least where he claimed
he was. I find that we're really interesting.
I know just our climate goes through hot phases
and cold phases. So maybe he was there in a time
when it was warmer than normal and he got to
see maybe there were maybe the ice caps were
200 miles inland. He never saw it. He actually
saw land and apparently he drew it with trees
suggesting that there was vegetation down there.
Not only did he draw it with trees, he drew it
with mountains where they're exactly placed.
It's wild. It was fairly accurate. It was just
devoid of ice at that point in time. And though
I'm not a strong believer in climate change,
I think the world just goes through fluctuations.
It's the thaw, it's the hardening as the world
just spins around the globe. Yeah, I think it's
a very real possibility that at one point it
was a subtropical climate with trees and oceans
and... I remember seeing that map. Have you ever
seen the map of Antarctica if they remove all
the ice? It almost looks like an island chain
like that you would find. Yeah, which is it's
cool to see and pretty rare because if you look
towards the North Pole, that's landmass. Yeah,
essentially. So Antarctica is 5 .5 million square
miles without the ice cap. It's 4 .8. So there's
almost... No. 55, oh my gosh, I got the numbers
wrong. 55 million square, 55 .5 million square
miles as it stands with the ice. 48 .5 without
the ice caps. There's a lot of freaking ice down
there. Apparently, it's this fun nerd fact. So
it accounts for 70 % of the world's fresh water.
And if everything melted, the seas, according
to scientists, the seas would dry. If that whole
entire ice cap melted, the seas would rise 200
feet, which is a wild thing about. That's a ton
of water. Especially where I live, because mine
would be gone. Yeah, you need a submarine, but
you better get that bunker of the submarine in
it Yeah, I've seen that if and if all of Antarctica
melted like the how far the sea level would rise
and it's like up to Pennsylvania So I'm swimming
for a long time to get home Yeah, I'm like do
I look I don't even think I live above 200 feet
above sea level up here Yeah, yeah get into like
the Appalachian before you get to that point.
I live at sea level so I'm done You're like three
inches above sea level. All right, man. I think
we touched on a lot of subjects there, man. We'll
have to drill down a little further and some
other cool stories next week. Yeah, like I said,
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