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You're tuned into Zero Signal, a show about what

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they won't say and what you're probably already

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thinking. No fluff, no filters, no bullshit.

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Let's crack it open. This episode dives into

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one of the most ambitious and perhaps controversial

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experiments in modern governance, a semi -autonomous

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city called Prospera. located on the island of

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Roatan, just off the northern coast of Honduras.

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Before we begin, let me make something very clear.

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Everything discussed in this episode is based

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on publicly available sources, including company

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websites, media reports, and government statements.

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The goal here is to analyze and question, not

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to accuse or defame. All individuals and organizations

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mentioned are presumed to be acting within the

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bounds of applicable law unless proven otherwise.

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Now with that said, Let's dig in. Prospera is

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what's known as a charter city, launched in 2017

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by a US -based company called Honduras Prospera

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Incorporated, which is registered in the state

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of Delaware. The city isn't just a business zone.

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It's essentially its own legal microstate, operating

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with independent laws, tax codes, and even its

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own arbitration courts, separate from the national

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system of Honduras. The ideal behind Prospera

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is to create a deregulated hub that attracts

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foreign investment by making it easy to start

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a business, resolve disputes privately, and avoid

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the bureaucracy and inefficiencies often found

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in developing nations. It was founded by Eric

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Bremen, a Venezuelan -born finance executive.

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and Gabriel Delgado Alou, a Guatemalan entrepreneur.

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Their vision was fueled by investments from well

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-known libertarian and tech personalities, including

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Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, and Preetri Freedman,

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author entities like Promos Capital, which is

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known for backing experimental governance projects.

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Prospera's govern using a unique structure. Around

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44 % of its ruling council is appointed directly

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by the company. and another 22 % of the votes

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are given to landowners, with more land meaning

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more influence. That's not just a metaphor. That's

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actually how the model works. To put it plainly,

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if you're a large investor, you wield large political

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power. If you're a local resident without land,

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you simply don't. Critics have argued this amounts

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to a corporate monarchy, where democratic norms

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are replaced by shareholder rights. For opponents'

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claim, it's a necessary innovation. the kind

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of governance startup that could be more efficient

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and prosperous than traditional models. Either

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way, it's a dramatic departure from representative

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democracy. In 2022, the political climate in

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Honduras changed. The newly elected government

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under President Castro repealed the independent

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city law that allowed zones like Prospera to

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operate. The state's reason? national sovereignty.

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But Prospero wasn't about to pack up and leave.

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Instead, its parent's company launched a 10 .7

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billion legal claim against the Honduran government

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under international trade laws, particularly

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CAFTA, which is the Central American Dominican

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Republic free trade agreement with the U .S.

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The claim is essentially this. Honduras changed

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the world's mid game, and now the investors are

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demanding compensation for lost opportunities.

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Depending on your point of view here, this is

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either a defense of international investor rights,

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or it's a case of private entity trying to strong

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arm a sovereign nation. Now here's where things

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take an interesting turn from politics to biotech

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experimentation. One of the startups operating

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in Prospera is called MiniCircle, a Delaware

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registered company conducting Hume gene therapy

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trials within the city's jurisdiction. These

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include experimental treatments for HIV. muscular

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dystrophy, ALS, and life -extension therapies

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involving folistatin, a gene linked to muscle

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growth and anti -aging effects. Because Prospera

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isn't bound by FDA or European regulatory systems,

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these trials can proceed far faster and far cheaper

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than they could in the United States. According

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to Minicircle, a clinical trial that would cost

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millions in the U .S. can be launched in Prospera

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for just a fraction of the cost in under a year.

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There's also Amphetita, a community focused on

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radical life extension, decentralized science,

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and blockchain -based health care. Its founder,

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Nikolas Annazinger, envisions a space where people

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can take more control over their health outside

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of traditional medical hierarchies. This isn't

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science fiction. These projects are actively

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underway, but not everyone is on board. The Honduran

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Ministry of Health has declared some of these

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human trials illegal and unauthorized, warning

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they may endanger participants and bypass necessary

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and needed safety protocols. And in 2024, biohacking

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communities in Prospera reportedly began experimenting

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with implantable tech, including magnetic fingertip

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implants and other body augmentation like RFID

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chips implanted in their hands. This raises a

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question. How much freedom is too much? And at

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what point does radical innovation become dangerous

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and exploitative? Economically, Prospera isn't

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just a biotech hub. It's a crypto forward jurisdiction.

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Bitcoin is legal tender. and residents can become

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e -citizens from anywhere in the world. Administrative

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tasks from identity verification to dispute resolution

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are handled through a digital governance platform

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inspired by Estonia's e -government model. This

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is part of a larger vision to decentralize not

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just finance, but governance itself. In theory,

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you don't need a passport. You just need a wallet

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and an address. Again, some call it revolutionary.

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Others call it a way to bypass accountability.

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and remove political protections from the public.

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Despite pushback, Prospera is still expanding.

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They've partnered with Magnita Wad, a single

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needs entrepreneur, to explore a new zone called

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Prospera Africa. And they're looking at trade

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corridors with similar legal loopholes that could

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support more charter cities. They also continue

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building on Rotan Island with biotech facilities,

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startup incubators, and infrastructure projects

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aimed at attracting global talent and digital

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nomads. But the future remains unclear. Honduran

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government is fighting to reassert control. Legal

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battles are ongoing, and the ethical questions

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are stacking up. Here's what we know. Prosperity

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is a real place. It exists today. It is home

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to real businesses, real experiments, and real

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legal disputes. Depending on your worldview,

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it's either a beacon of progress or a canary

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in a coal mine for a privatized, post -democratic

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world. This story isn't over yet. And like many

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modern frontiers, The boundaries between innovation

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and overreach are still being drawn. Now I've

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got to ask you, brother, do you see this kind

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of governance as a genuine opportunity for progress

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or a troubling move away from democratic norms?

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There's a ton of regulation in the United States.

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It's a ton of regulation in the EU. So I think

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it's great that companies can go out and bypass

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that regulation. But at the same time, I think

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it's bad because the FDA and everything else

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we have set up in this country is meant to have

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stuff that is controlled. And if something terrible

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happens or there's a terrible side effect, they

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cut it immediately. So I almost think it's a

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way to circumvent some of those agencies we have

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in place and who's watching them. Making sure

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everything's done ethically, scientifically and

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who they're reporting it to. You can really find

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a whole lot about the accountability structure

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there, especially in terms of business governance,

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medical governance. It almost seems like a tax

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shelter for super rich people. They can send

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their pet projects down there, not have the government

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looking over their back. Poss spend money that

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instead of spending millions, maybe they're spending

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pennies on the dollar to do some of the research

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they want to do. And then I know another concept

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that kind of came up was corporate colonialism.

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So what's the keep mega corporations? And I even

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argue, even in our country, like we live in a

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corporatocracy where big corporations, big donor

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control or politicians, you know, they're sliding

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under the table and they're paying them off for

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the votes. It's probably much easier to go down

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there and do it and just pay off the local government

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and have them turn a blind eye. But it sounds

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like the government, they're trying to push back

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a little bit and they're out to ask questions.

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It reminds me of the oligarchs that you see in

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Russia where the kind of the minority controls

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the majority. Though at times, like in the United

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States, we still have some of them, like Elon

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Musk, Jeff Bezos, all the multi -billionaires

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that we see that have influence over culture

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and politics within the United States. But what's

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really interesting about places like Prospero

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is it's distilled down. It's this really small

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environment that's run by these very powerful

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people. If we talk about Chachi P .T. and we

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talk about the revolution of artificial intelligence,

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Sam Altman is invested. So these very powerful

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people are coming together. And not only are

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they having their wild ideals, wild theories,

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some may be beneficial. Some may help people

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see or walk again. Some might help folks, but

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inevitably there's going to be some bad things

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that come out of there. How I think about this

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is that our world is really rolled by the almighty

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dollar. We're going to do things to make that

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money. And it may not always be a beneficial,

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but now, as you said, they're cutting out the

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loopholes. They are voting themselves. Voting

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is based on land owner rights and the amount

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of property you have. So it's really almost empowering

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people like the more you own, the more influence

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you have within the society. And I think that's

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what kind of scares me. And as we start to look

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at places like Prospera in different kind of

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tech startup cities that are within these Honduran

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environments where they can make and have their

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own laws, where I think we start to trend more

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towards like the one world kind of government

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prototype. And when you look at it, the book

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of revelations really warns of global authority

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that rises in the final stage, a centralized

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power rolling over every tribe, people, language,

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and nation. Prospera, though in a very kind of

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micro scale, reflects this concept with really

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stunning precision in my mind. It bypasses national

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laws. It builds his own arbitration courts. So

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if you get in trouble, Yeah, the people in Prospera

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are the ones that's going to find you wrong.

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And they're going to give you whatever your sentence

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is or your penalty, whether it be monetary or

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prison. And I don't know if they've ever even

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crossed those bridges yet, but they have their

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own courts and it's online. It's worldwide. It's

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not just in Prospera. It's an arbitration court.

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That's all over. I use it in my current company

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to arbitrary findings. And we do that in a lot

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of contractual negotiation. They just offer citizenship

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to everybody to build this mighty civilization.

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And again, There could be some very good aspects

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of it. But if you put that power in the wrong

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people's hands, I worry about what could transpire.

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Yeah, I think they're still subject to the criminal

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law of Honduras. So I think the courts they have

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set up there are more for business contracts,

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that type of arbitration. I still, I'm like 99

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% sure that if somebody commits a crime, they're

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still subject to the... Honduran government.

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Did you find that to be the case too? That's

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what my research told me. I think there's a big

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battle going on. Obviously with the election

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of the new president there in Honduras, there's

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a struggle. They want to have more influence

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in these kind of micro independent cities. But

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if you ask a representative of somebody like

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Prospera, they're going to say that they roll

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it and govern their own society. Like they make

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their own laws, they enforce their own laws.

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I was actually even looking at one of their websites

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to see what types of jobs were available. And

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it was like, I forget the exact title of the

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job, but it was basically like lead security

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officer, which was basically like the chief of

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police that would enforce the laws and regulations

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within that environment. I have the background

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for it. So put this with my law enforcement and

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stuff. If I did not apply, no, I'm not going

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to Prospera. They feel like they really can.

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And this in Honduras here is really a test bed.

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And what we're seeing now is the expansion. So

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they want to go to other countries. where maybe

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they have more control and influence within that

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environment. And I think that's really concerning

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because if a billionaire says you're impeding

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progress because I'm going to throw you in jail

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and that's the law now, that's pretty troubling

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of what direction we're headed in. Yeah. The

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other thing I found interesting. So I was curious

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about the tax rate. So like in this ZA or this

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special economic zone that they have set up the

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flat tax. So it's a flat tax, which I think is

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brilliant. I think every government should impose

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a flat tax instead of income, state, local, all

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that crap. So it has a flat tax of five percent,

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has a business tax of one percent, and it has

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zero percent gains tax. And so they collect the

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money and then they give 12 percent of that pile

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that they collect to the government. So I'm like,

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wow, this seems like a tax shelter. They keep

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the money. In the U .S. there's like 15 percent

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capital gains tax and you know all the tax brackets

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and like it's much much more significant than

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a 5 % flat income tax. And you know, business

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taxes can be brutal here and capital gains tax

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or sometimes that can keep people from actually

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investing their money because they don't want

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to hold on to it for a year or hold on to their

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investment for a year. Did you get the opportunity

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to see how people pay their tax bill? Yeah, through

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Bitcoin. Yeah, Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. Which is

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a big thing down there. It's a huge thing. They're

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like one of the first transactional societies

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that rely solely on Bitcoin in order to pay their

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bills. within their society. That also kind of

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harkens back to that one world government of

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how you can use one item to have transactions

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across the world. Not that you couldn't use the

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almighty dollar within any region, but Bitcoin's

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the same. A dollar's worth a lot more in China

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versus Singapore. The exchange rates change as

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you pay your bills, but Bitcoin doesn't. It's

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on the blockchains. All these things are starting

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to build around to get towards that one world

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government. Think is a little bit scary. Yeah,

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but man you imagine It's a all those cryptos,

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especially Bitcoin. Yes stable stabilized over

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the past like 12 months But dude like you one

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day it might be a hundred and seventeen thousand

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dollars per Bitcoin the next Six months later

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might be sixty thousand dollars. I mean, that's

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pretty wild that you're holding on to a currency

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That's that is that volatile and you think about

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it say you're you're providing a service there

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and You know, you're paying with Bitcoin and

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you're stashing it. Heck, you might wake up one

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day and be a multi -millionaire just because

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Bitcoin took off. But no, I do agree with you.

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The blockchain is scary. I know the government

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here in the U .S. is anti TBDC, which essentially

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is just saying they don't want to spy on you

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with your crypto. They claim they don't want

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to track you, but every transaction has to be

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validated through the blockchain. So every transaction,

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every wallet, they know who owns the wallet.

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They see what wallet it's going to. They can

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make the inferences to what you bought. And the

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scary thing at the end, like in Revelations,

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at the end of time, he says you can't buy, sell,

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or trade without the mark. And the way to do

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that is to get rid of any sort of fiat currency,

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any sort of paper, even trying to get rid of

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bartering. So then if they implement it, the

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blockchain would be a perfect tool to debank

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someone, to take away all their money, to put

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a freeze on their crypto wallet. I think China

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does some of that stuff now. I was watching a

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YouTube video where They're so heavily monitored

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with cameras and everything else, and they have

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the social credit system. If you jaywalk, because

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they're tracking you on an app, they'll deduct,

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they'll just, instead of getting a ticket and

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choosing to go to court, they'll just find you

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on your phone and you'll get a text saying of

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$20 was, was charged because of this ticket.

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And that's freaking wild. And that is super scary.

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They actually do it with speeding as well. So

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they monitor your phone and knowing how long

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it gets from point A to point B. If you get there

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too fast, they just shoot you a speeding ticket

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for it. That's not right. Talk about ultimate

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control. Can you imagine? Say we're doing this

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podcast. Let's fast forward 10 years and we say

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something on this podcast. Next thing we go to

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the checkout, try to scan our cards or scan our

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Bitcoin wallet or whatever. And it's like you

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froze out. And you don't even have an explanation

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just because maybe re -criticized someone or

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something or some policy. Can you imagine that,

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bro? That would be rough. I lived in Hong Kong

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for a little while, so it wasn't under the same

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rules and regulations of mainland. I got to see

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some of it. And people are really scared of this

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kind of social score that was assigned to folks.

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They were kind of controlled by it because not

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only it wasn't just, oh, you're a bad person.

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shunned by society. It was tied to your credit

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score. So if you got arrested or you did something

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bad, your social score would drop down. And because

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of that, now you can't apply for a loan to buy

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a house. So a lot of people were in fear of it,

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that they were going to take the proper actions

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and follow along the path. But maybe that comes

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next for these types of startups. How much more

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can they tie into control? in order to achieve

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their ends means. I know that there's a lot of

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powerful billionaires out there. I know I worked

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for one at Amazon Web Services and the more he

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can squeeze out of you, the better off he was.

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That's why he's living on yachts. When I worked,

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the top salary was, if you were a CEO of a company,

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the step down from Jeff, the top salary during

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that time was 100K. That's the most you can make.

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You get RSUs, but That was the most you could

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make during that time. I think it's changed a

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little bit now that Andrew Jassy has come along,

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but that influence of these very powerful people,

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I think is what's ultimately concerning. But

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as we kind of walk it back and we talk about

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all the stuff that they're doing over there in

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Prosperity, which they could be doing in many

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parts of the world. And as we continue to talk

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about this one world government and the revelations,

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I think the next big scary thing is the implant

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technology that they're doing today. And I don't

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know if you've seen any of these, I'm going to

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call out Yes Theory because I watched their YouTube

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video, but they're doing a lot of these implant

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technologies. And as you talked about the mark

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on the hand or on the forehead, they're doing

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these types of implants. I saw magnets get implanted

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in fingertips, right? And they're supposedly

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giving them like another sense. A lot of electricians

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are doing them so they could feel the right wire

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to pull when they're working in the field. But

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it ultimately doesn't stop there. They're doing

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some good things. They're doing some stuff with

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stem cell. therapy to help folks, but this is

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just what they're telling us, right? Of what

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they're implanting. And a lot of it's for vanity

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reasons, right? Like we always think about like

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breast augmentation. That's a vanity thing that

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we do in the United States. But a lot of these

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things are for vanity. They just kind of want

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to be upgraded, almost like a cyborg human being.

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And like, where does that stop? That's what ultimately

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really scares me because I think it's, I saw

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it get implanted on the right hand in that video.

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So what do you think about that? Yeah, I mean,

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it's I think with everything, like it starts

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off small. So they want to make it cool and trendy

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and they get this implant and you can do all

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these cool things with it. Who knows what they

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can do. Obviously Elon Musk has Neuralink and

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you see that story about the dude who's a paraplegic.

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They implanted something in his head and he's

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able to play video games just with his mind.

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It's wild. I did. Yeah, it's crazy. So just think

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about the amount of information you can sort

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through in a short amount of time. I'm standing

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here looking at the screen, I have all these

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tabs up. I'm trying to look at the video stream.

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Imagine if you just sat back as you're talking,

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I can just close my eyes or even look at the

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screen and just see everything I needed to see.

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But it always starts very innocuous, very innocent.

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And like you said, vanity is a big thing or even

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for health reasons. But it is scary, but I just

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don't think you can say If you're the devil trying

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to bring the Antichrist around, I don't think

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you can just wake up one morning, everyone's

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getting a chip in their hand and in their forehead.

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You can't do that because nobody would buy it.

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So I think over the coming years, decades, 99

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% of the people are going to have some sort of

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implantable technology in their body. And the

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selling point is going to be health. It's going

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to be the ability to learn instantaneously. Imagine

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if you had a chip in your head and I can learn

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Spanish in 30 seconds because all those neural

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pathways are built instantly. The chip's able

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to communicate. You're going to have AI in your

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head, man. You're going to have a demon in your

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head telling you the worst, terrible crap eventually.

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It's also really about normalizing it, getting

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people used to it. I think we talked a little

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bit about that in Project Blue. Just getting

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people used to the ideal, regardless of what

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it is. So when the next big step happens that

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everybody's got an end plan, what's the big deal?

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reflect back on the Mark of the Beast and implantable

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technology. In Revelation 13, 16 through 17,

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the Mark of the Beast is really described as

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a condition for buying and selling. It placed

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on the right hand or the forehead. And what I

00:21:06.819 --> 00:21:09.000
started seeing is like they're doing these implants

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in their hands, probably among other places.

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And they're also doing Bitcoin at the same time.

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So how soon does that connect? Where they're

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just starting to pay with their hands and they're

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starting to buy and sell with these implants

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that they have for it as well. Like to me, I'm

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starting to see those breadcrumbs as we come

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along. I'm starting to see this connective tissue

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as we go down the way. They're, they're definitely

00:21:32.710 --> 00:21:34.849
building the infrastructure. You remember these

00:21:34.849 --> 00:21:38.349
can fit when we were growing up. Oh, how many

00:21:38.349 --> 00:21:40.630
people had these when we were kids? Very few.

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Very few. Now little kids have them. The next

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thing is something you implant. You're here and

00:21:46.930 --> 00:21:49.369
you won't need this probably in 20 years because

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I could make a phone call with the implant in

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my head my my body I could just think about calling

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Dave and it's gonna ring or whatever it does

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and we'll be having to conversate probably you

00:22:00.589 --> 00:22:03.990
probably have to speak man. He goes here But

00:22:03.990 --> 00:22:08.509
like you said this is normal now this wasn't

00:22:08.509 --> 00:22:11.430
normal 20 years ago, but like you said it's all

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about conditioning normalizing and just making

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life so difficult if you didn't have one. Life

00:22:18.950 --> 00:22:20.589
for me would be difficult if I didn't have this

00:22:20.589 --> 00:22:23.589
bad boy. A hundred percent. I think a lot about

00:22:23.589 --> 00:22:25.609
that, how much technology has come along the

00:22:25.609 --> 00:22:27.609
way because even, you know, I was driving to

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the grocery store today. You really don't think

00:22:29.089 --> 00:22:32.309
about it, but you have GPS now. So if you're

00:22:32.309 --> 00:22:34.490
going to like a special restaurant to take your

00:22:34.490 --> 00:22:38.490
wife to, you pop the GPS on and you follow Google

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Maps to like that restaurant. 15 years ago, we

00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.440
didn't have that. I remember printing out, uh,

00:22:44.539 --> 00:22:46.799
map instructions to drive back to college and

00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:48.920
hoping I don't miss a street because if I did,

00:22:49.059 --> 00:22:51.960
it ain't going to reroute me. You remember when

00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.619
we were going back five, six, seven, eight, mom

00:22:54.619 --> 00:22:57.279
and dad used to have freaking maps and they used

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to bust out the map and mom would plot the course

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and then inevitably they would miss a turn and

00:23:02.660 --> 00:23:04.440
have to get lost in the middle of nowhere. You

00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:06.180
go to the gas station, try to figure out where

00:23:06.180 --> 00:23:08.160
you're at. Cause you're so unfamiliar with the

00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.690
area. If I didn't have GPS, I don't know how

00:23:10.690 --> 00:23:12.910
I get to 9 % of the places I go to that are outside

00:23:12.910 --> 00:23:15.670
of my town. It's great. I remember it when I

00:23:15.670 --> 00:23:18.049
was going back to college that one time, I actually

00:23:18.049 --> 00:23:20.250
missed a turn and I ended up in like downtown

00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:22.890
Columbus, like the hood. And I like pulled off

00:23:22.890 --> 00:23:24.750
on the side of the road and asked some random

00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:26.549
dude, like, how do we get back to the highway?

00:23:26.710 --> 00:23:29.269
So I know how to find my way. Um, he's like,

00:23:29.269 --> 00:23:30.569
yeah, you shouldn't be in this town. I'm like,

00:23:30.569 --> 00:23:32.190
I know not trying to be in this town. I want

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to go. I want to go. I want to circle back real

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quick. You know, most of the, uh, quote -unquote

00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:42.700
residents of Prosper or e -residents. You know

00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:45.420
what that is? There's a lot. Yeah, so they're

00:23:45.420 --> 00:23:48.119
just there. They're paying a bill. It's kind

00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.259
of really, as you said, like a tax culture at

00:23:50.259 --> 00:23:51.900
that point in time. But I think there's something.

00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:54.920
I had this info somewhere. Let me pull it up

00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.099
here because I think most of the full -time residents,

00:23:58.380 --> 00:24:00.359
I think they're Hondurans for the most part.

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People just kind of doing the cooking, laundry,

00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.890
maintenance. I think there might only be And

00:24:05.890 --> 00:24:07.589
they have a bunch of seasonal, quote unquote,

00:24:07.809 --> 00:24:09.710
residents too, but most of them are e -residents.

00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:12.289
Did you happen to see a figure of how many e

00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:14.109
-residents or just residents in general? Cause

00:24:14.109 --> 00:24:16.230
I never actually found one. Yeah. I had it on

00:24:16.230 --> 00:24:19.369
my notes and of course they decided to delete

00:24:19.369 --> 00:24:21.869
itself. As we speak about lovely technology.

00:24:22.690 --> 00:24:25.230
Yeah. Speaking of 20 years ago, we couldn't do

00:24:25.230 --> 00:24:32.150
a podcast. All right. So some natural person

00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:36.509
residents as of August 30th, 2024. 79 full -time

00:24:36.509 --> 00:24:41.529
physical residents living on site. 443 full e

00:24:41.529 --> 00:24:43.529
-residents, essentially remote residents with

00:24:43.529 --> 00:24:47.190
full rights. And then 1 ,271 limited e -residents,

00:24:47.490 --> 00:24:49.269
partially enrolled resident. I don't even know

00:24:49.269 --> 00:24:51.769
what that means. Additionally, 230 registered

00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:55.069
businesses legal entities also hold e -residents

00:24:55.069 --> 00:24:58.109
status there. So it's not super huge. It sounds

00:24:58.109 --> 00:24:59.710
like it's growing though. I was reading some

00:24:59.710 --> 00:25:02.869
article about, I think they're building a new

00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:06.690
apartment. complex there. And as of April, they

00:25:06.690 --> 00:25:09.410
had already sold half of the units. So it sounds

00:25:09.410 --> 00:25:12.089
like something that is gaining traction and interest.

00:25:12.130 --> 00:25:14.690
And I assume it has everything to do with regulation

00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:17.690
and being a tax shelter. Yeah. It'd be interesting

00:25:17.690 --> 00:25:19.349
to see how many people live there full time.

00:25:19.490 --> 00:25:21.950
I know they like bought a resort on the right

00:25:21.950 --> 00:25:25.450
island because Rotan's actually. A lot of people

00:25:25.450 --> 00:25:27.589
go there to vacation, but they actually bought

00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:29.690
it for their citizens before they could build

00:25:29.690 --> 00:25:31.390
the infrastructure on the island. And I know

00:25:31.390 --> 00:25:32.569
the apartment building you're talking about,

00:25:32.670 --> 00:25:34.549
it's actually the tallest building in Roatan

00:25:34.549 --> 00:25:36.750
today. What would be really interesting to find

00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:38.869
out is how many people actually live there full

00:25:38.869 --> 00:25:40.990
time, like versus just like vacation there, go

00:25:40.990 --> 00:25:43.569
there for a week. Yeah. So here it says 79. So

00:25:43.569 --> 00:25:45.849
79 people live there full time. Oh, wow. Okay.

00:25:46.009 --> 00:25:49.750
So not many. Not many. It's really interesting.

00:25:50.089 --> 00:25:53.329
I just also like watching that video on YouTube.

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:57.150
It didn't seem like the, and I could probably

00:25:57.150 --> 00:25:59.690
look this up. I'm being lazy right now. It didn't

00:25:59.690 --> 00:26:02.250
seem like they actually had a lot of land. Like

00:26:02.250 --> 00:26:05.509
they had the beautiful resort and then tucked

00:26:05.509 --> 00:26:10.089
away on its side was the actual corporate entity

00:26:10.089 --> 00:26:12.869
with a big building and some smaller buildings

00:26:12.869 --> 00:26:15.190
where they, I guess have offices or whatever,

00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:19.150
but it didn't look like it was super large. Yeah,

00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:21.250
it's not too big. I didn't see the figure you

00:26:21.250 --> 00:26:23.890
told me, but I haven't seen the figure yet of

00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:25.950
how many people live there, but it's not a ton

00:26:25.950 --> 00:26:29.349
of people. It almost looks like a resort when

00:26:29.349 --> 00:26:31.230
you dig into the facts and you see the video

00:26:31.230 --> 00:26:33.049
of a lot of the YouTubers that are going out

00:26:33.049 --> 00:26:37.750
there today. I think it's more about theory versus

00:26:37.750 --> 00:26:40.769
concept when we talk about Prosper. Maybe Prosper

00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:43.309
is not doing anything wrong versus just being

00:26:43.309 --> 00:26:45.470
a place for a bunch of really wealthy people

00:26:45.470 --> 00:26:47.730
to come together and do some important stuff.

00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:51.450
I can see that kind of transcending that. And

00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:53.990
if you get somebody that's very powerful and

00:26:53.990 --> 00:26:57.789
perhaps very evil, what could they do to make

00:26:57.789 --> 00:26:59.690
these changes? If you can get around the FDA,

00:26:59.970 --> 00:27:01.769
if you can get around the European governing

00:27:01.769 --> 00:27:04.849
authority for implant technology. A lot of the

00:27:04.849 --> 00:27:07.289
times, what I think about is the nephephelium

00:27:07.289 --> 00:27:11.309
legacy. When we see in Genesis six and the angels

00:27:11.309 --> 00:27:13.130
come down to earth and they kind of procreate

00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:16.000
with women. And God finds this really bad and

00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.380
he ultimately kills them through the flood during

00:27:18.380 --> 00:27:21.299
Moses' lifetime. But we're starting to see people

00:27:21.299 --> 00:27:23.799
that are getting enhanced. And we're just at

00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:25.839
the beginning, that cell phone that you're talking

00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.980
about or the GPS that we were talking about,

00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:29.740
who knows what they're going to be implanted

00:27:29.740 --> 00:27:32.980
next? And who knows the reason why they're going

00:27:32.980 --> 00:27:35.599
to implant it next? Which I think is ultimately

00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:38.920
very concerning in my mind. It's ultimately controlled.

00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.759
I mean, I almost feel like with AI and the way

00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.289
it's expanding. and with the Neuralink, it's

00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:49.589
just a way to interact with AI, which is, I think,

00:27:49.609 --> 00:27:53.509
terrifying, because part of me thinks AI is giving

00:27:53.509 --> 00:27:57.329
voices to demons, and it gives you instantaneous

00:27:57.329 --> 00:28:00.109
knowledge. So this is interesting. I just looked

00:28:00.109 --> 00:28:04.809
this up. So the original property of Prosperity

00:28:04.809 --> 00:28:08.170
was only 58 acres. Apparently now they've expanded

00:28:08.170 --> 00:28:10.329
it to 1 ,000 acres, so it sounds like they're

00:28:10.329 --> 00:28:13.849
trying to... to add on significantly to that

00:28:13.849 --> 00:28:16.569
property or to that region. They actually envision

00:28:16.569 --> 00:28:19.569
it to be like the size of Singapore as they want

00:28:19.569 --> 00:28:22.150
to continue to expand their property and build

00:28:22.150 --> 00:28:25.690
out as well. And you wonder is with their expansion

00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:28.250
to Africa, what else controls are they looking

00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:30.329
for? Why would they leave that environment if

00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:32.450
they're continuing to expand? I know they're

00:28:32.450 --> 00:28:35.009
they're facing the Honduran government. Who doesn't

00:28:35.009 --> 00:28:36.970
agree with everything they're doing, but what

00:28:36.970 --> 00:28:39.269
are they looking for from this kind of expansion

00:28:39.269 --> 00:28:40.950
when they're not done there? Like it's almost

00:28:40.950 --> 00:28:44.390
like a test bed and they're just getting started.

00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:46.950
So like, why are they going to Africa now to

00:28:46.950 --> 00:28:49.289
do other things? It kind of reminds you of the

00:28:49.289 --> 00:28:51.549
Romans. So the Romans at one point in time had

00:28:51.549 --> 00:28:53.869
the biggest empire in the world. And it wasn't

00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:56.170
like they had Roman citizens there. They just

00:28:56.170 --> 00:28:58.599
had outposts. And it almost seems like corporate

00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.339
outposts to control local governments. And you

00:29:01.339 --> 00:29:03.819
have to start with the smaller, less powerful

00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:06.279
governments to wield that influence before you

00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.460
can branch out into the more technologically

00:29:10.460 --> 00:29:13.240
and politically advanced wealthy nations. But

00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:16.900
it seems like a first step of what seems to be

00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:19.640
many to get to that conclusion where you have

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.259
these billionaires that have these corporate

00:29:22.259 --> 00:29:25.640
outposts that control the local area financially.

00:29:27.909 --> 00:29:30.210
Again, we're talking about blockchain, Bitcoin,

00:29:30.609 --> 00:29:32.950
implants that can wield their power and kind

00:29:32.950 --> 00:29:34.970
of throw their weight around. We ask you, it's

00:29:34.970 --> 00:29:36.849
an interesting question that just popped into

00:29:36.849 --> 00:29:39.890
my mind, but we talk about the devil's playbook

00:29:39.890 --> 00:29:42.630
of how he's going to implement his plan for revelation.

00:29:43.109 --> 00:29:44.970
Like put yourself into those shoes. Like how

00:29:44.970 --> 00:29:47.109
would you implement it? How would you take over

00:29:47.109 --> 00:29:49.170
the world? You're a smart guy. Like you probably

00:29:49.170 --> 00:29:51.480
could if you really wanted to. How would you

00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.019
go about, do you think that blockchain fits into

00:29:54.019 --> 00:29:56.160
that plan? Do you think implants fit into that

00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.900
plan? How would you go about implementing it?

00:29:58.980 --> 00:30:00.259
So I think the first thing you have to do is

00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:01.900
cause division. Kind of like what we have in

00:30:01.900 --> 00:30:04.200
this country. You have two halves, left and right.

00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:06.380
Or you have America versus Russia, Europe versus

00:30:06.380 --> 00:30:09.119
Russia, China versus US. You have to sow that

00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.500
division and grow that hate. I think ultimately,

00:30:12.819 --> 00:30:15.799
and I think it's pretty evident in the Bible,

00:30:16.339 --> 00:30:20.819
there's a huge war that kills billions. And at

00:30:20.819 --> 00:30:23.480
some point in, you can imagine if nukes are dropping

00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:25.519
on the major cities around the world. At one

00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.119
point, you'd be like, time out. And we're good.

00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.299
I don't want to see my kids get vaporized. I

00:30:31.299 --> 00:30:33.160
don't want to die. I don't want to have to deal

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.160
with this fallout. That's why I think step one

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.140
is cause the vision to where everyone hates each

00:30:37.140 --> 00:30:40.259
other, where you can't agree on anything. You

00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:43.339
like the smallest difference in the other person

00:30:43.339 --> 00:30:46.160
is magnified so much that you actually hate them.

00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.920
You're so ingrained and trenched with your side.

00:30:50.170 --> 00:30:52.349
that you can't even reach across the aisle to

00:30:52.349 --> 00:30:54.450
say, Hey, I think we can come to compromise.

00:30:55.009 --> 00:30:58.490
So these people are the devil just once as entrenched

00:30:58.490 --> 00:31:01.430
like a world war one battle where if you try

00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:02.890
to cross this field, you're getting mowed down

00:31:02.890 --> 00:31:04.910
by a machine gun. So I think that's step one.

00:31:05.009 --> 00:31:08.069
I think step two is a global war where everybody

00:31:08.069 --> 00:31:09.730
gets scared to death that the world is actually

00:31:09.730 --> 00:31:12.150
going to end. And then you have the infrastructure

00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:16.349
of this CBDC, the mark or the implants. That

00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:18.890
way you can control and make everyone feel safe.

00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:22.279
Everyone gave up their freedoms look just like

00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.339
the virus. We just experienced that too long

00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:26.559
ago You're afraid for your life and for your

00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.299
family. So you give them all your rights This

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.619
is gonna be a major war and say hey, this this

00:31:30.619 --> 00:31:33.160
is the game plan guys. We're gonna go with it

00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.700
We're gonna implant, you know, this guy came

00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:38.920
and made peace like he's our new god. You have

00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.680
to do this This is what's best for humanity.

00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.119
I think we're right. We're on that cusp and I

00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.660
don't think the world's been more divided in

00:31:47.780 --> 00:31:51.619
at least since I've been alive, before we were

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.700
kids, like we fought World War II. Everybody

00:31:54.700 --> 00:31:57.220
in the country, no one really hated the president.

00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:59.740
That's kind of a new deal. Like you may not agree

00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:02.200
with some of his policies, but everybody was

00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.660
on the same page. Like the stuff on the periphery

00:32:04.660 --> 00:32:06.539
was, I don't agree with that, I'm going to vote

00:32:06.539 --> 00:32:07.960
Republican. I don't agree with that, I'm going

00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.799
to vote Democrat. Or this guy just seems cooler,

00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.980
but at the end of the day, everyone kind of had

00:32:11.980 --> 00:32:14.240
the best interests of the country. Analysis left

00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.190
and right, bro. 100%. And that left and right

00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:22.230
is so far apart as we talk about gender modification,

00:32:23.450 --> 00:32:26.650
really just ideals and principles. I see modern

00:32:26.650 --> 00:32:29.349
day America is a lot like the Roman empire and

00:32:29.349 --> 00:32:31.450
you're kind of waiting for the fall almost as

00:32:31.450 --> 00:32:34.950
we have that ideology embedded within us. You

00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:37.529
know, it's interesting because you say war, like

00:32:37.529 --> 00:32:39.750
as they say in the Bible, wars and rumors of

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:42.009
wars are going to happen. And what that means

00:32:42.009 --> 00:32:45.279
is ultimately that your fear of have nuclear

00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.940
bombs. And we see that symbolism in the Bible

00:32:47.940 --> 00:32:50.579
where I think it's Paul who sees the meteorites

00:32:50.579 --> 00:32:53.079
that fall out of the sky. And a lot of people

00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.799
say those are missiles that are dropping on societies.

00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:59.680
And we're almost seeing that. We're on the cusp

00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:03.359
of World War III as we see Russia fight against

00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.720
Ukraine, as you see the United States fight against

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.940
Iran, as you see Israel fight against Iran and

00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:11.819
Hezbollah. and in multiple other countries that

00:33:11.819 --> 00:33:14.440
are fighting today. And if you're not fighting,

00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:16.859
you're kind of scared that you're going to, just

00:33:16.859 --> 00:33:19.380
like India, the India Pakistan war, which lasted

00:33:19.380 --> 00:33:21.440
only a couple of days. But everybody's like,

00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:23.119
this is going to be the next nuke drop because

00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.440
these are both nuclear powered and arsenaled

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.720
nations that are going to occur. And it's that

00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.819
fear that drives in and enough fear, as you said,

00:33:31.940 --> 00:33:33.579
with COVID where people are going to, okay, I

00:33:33.579 --> 00:33:35.759
will give up my freedoms in order to keep me

00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.500
safe. I see that a lot with the end of time because

00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:40.630
I will give you whatever you want. Just let me

00:33:40.630 --> 00:33:42.549
live in my home, go to the grocery store and

00:33:42.549 --> 00:33:46.730
live my life. And, you know, that's where it

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:50.589
gets scary because how much freedom, it's a balancing

00:33:50.589 --> 00:33:53.150
act. How much freedom is too much freedom? How

00:33:53.150 --> 00:33:55.470
much push and pull that you're willing to give

00:33:55.470 --> 00:33:59.349
and take in order to see the proper end. During

00:33:59.349 --> 00:34:02.829
World War II, many people were ready to give

00:34:02.829 --> 00:34:04.569
up their full -time jobs, join the war effort,

00:34:04.710 --> 00:34:07.150
fight against the Nazis. If they couldn't go

00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:10.019
to war because they were a female, they joined

00:34:10.019 --> 00:34:12.159
manufacturing, they start building stuff in support

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.320
of the war. And they gave up all of their opportunities

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.360
and freedoms they had in the United States in

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.019
order to kind of defend that final outcome. It's

00:34:20.019 --> 00:34:21.219
ultimately I start to think about, it's like,

00:34:21.380 --> 00:34:24.059
what does it take? COVID had some, as you said,

00:34:24.260 --> 00:34:27.820
COVID had some really big impacts on our society.

00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:30.699
And a lot of people gave up those freedoms, but

00:34:30.699 --> 00:34:33.820
I think it's that multiple of 10. And when we

00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:36.099
talk about implants, right, like how I see that

00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:39.050
come about, where it's almost routine is, hey,

00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:41.429
you got to get this implant to beat this virus

00:34:41.429 --> 00:34:44.389
or to stay safe from the Russian government or

00:34:44.389 --> 00:34:46.269
whatever the case may be, where people are just

00:34:46.269 --> 00:34:50.409
inclined to have the implant to keep them safe.

00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:53.909
I think we live in a world where knowledge is

00:34:53.909 --> 00:34:56.650
power. And as we talked about in our last episode,

00:34:56.989 --> 00:34:59.110
what you see is not always what you're going

00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:00.769
to believe. So you have to have that kind of

00:35:00.769 --> 00:35:03.630
faith baked into it and have that knowledge baked

00:35:03.630 --> 00:35:06.760
into it to make the right decisions along The

00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:10.179
way, you know, I mean, I think discernment, like

00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:12.900
reading the word, being in the word, discerning

00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:15.219
the spirits and discerning your environment.

00:35:15.539 --> 00:35:18.280
And that's huge. A lot of people black. There's

00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.679
a lot of smart people, man, with lots of education.

00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.320
They're really freaking dumb. No, they go back

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.800
to your, your war. Like it's evidence that they're

00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.260
building the control grid and the infrastructure

00:35:30.260 --> 00:35:34.429
to absorb the fallout and the plugs. We're going

00:35:34.429 --> 00:35:35.590
to take you out of this plug and we're going

00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:39.090
to put you in this plug. Oh, I think the government

00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:42.329
after this catastrophic war is obviously it's

00:35:42.329 --> 00:35:44.150
going to be a one world government and the controller

00:35:44.150 --> 00:35:46.409
grid is being built as we speak. You know, sometimes

00:35:46.409 --> 00:35:48.409
too, I look at Prospera and I'm like, we're seeing

00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:52.449
technology that was around. I remember seeing

00:35:52.449 --> 00:35:54.630
the guy get an implant in his hand like 20 years

00:35:54.630 --> 00:35:57.929
ago. So we're just seeing the rendition of stuff

00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:01.789
that is already here. It's been here. I can't

00:36:01.789 --> 00:36:03.710
imagine the stuff they're actually working on

00:36:03.710 --> 00:36:07.289
in these labs in this country, like these mega

00:36:07.289 --> 00:36:09.750
corporations. Sometimes I look at Prospera and

00:36:09.750 --> 00:36:12.409
I'm like, yeah, is it more of a distraction from

00:36:12.409 --> 00:36:15.670
what's really going on here? Or is it just the

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:18.070
kindergarten level of practice to see if this

00:36:18.070 --> 00:36:21.650
corporatism, this corporate colonialism will

00:36:21.650 --> 00:36:24.150
actually float? And if not, we'll bail from it

00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:26.849
and try something different. You see so many

00:36:26.849 --> 00:36:29.610
crazy things that... are going on in Prospero.

00:36:29.710 --> 00:36:33.670
So you see MiniCircle, Infinite City, Unlimited

00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:36.909
Bio, Symbionic Labs. Some of those folks are

00:36:36.909 --> 00:36:39.269
working on really good things like cure for HIV,

00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:41.210
which is really important. And they're getting

00:36:41.210 --> 00:36:44.449
around like the FDA and the European governance

00:36:44.449 --> 00:36:47.650
to speed up those things, to speed up those cures,

00:36:47.809 --> 00:36:50.630
to deliver them humanity. And ultimately it's

00:36:50.630 --> 00:36:53.230
governed by the almighty dollar. We see a lot

00:36:53.230 --> 00:36:54.769
in the United States. They rather sell you the

00:36:54.769 --> 00:36:56.530
treatment versus the cure, because that's how

00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:58.369
they're going to make money. But folks are getting

00:36:58.369 --> 00:37:02.670
around these controls. And what kind of strikes

00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:05.230
me is they're working on some really important

00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:07.630
things, and that's what they tell us. But what

00:37:07.630 --> 00:37:09.869
are they not telling us? But have you ever seen

00:37:09.869 --> 00:37:12.730
that guy? I can't remember his name, but he's

00:37:12.730 --> 00:37:16.889
a guy that's trying to live forever. I was going

00:37:16.889 --> 00:37:19.289
to bring him up, Brian Johnson. Yep. Brian Johnson.

00:37:19.530 --> 00:37:23.050
Yep. You know, he's done everything to, I think

00:37:23.050 --> 00:37:25.829
he like injected plasma of his kids in order

00:37:25.829 --> 00:37:29.489
to reduce his age and he does look pretty young.

00:37:29.590 --> 00:37:31.650
I think he's six. So he does look pretty young.

00:37:31.750 --> 00:37:34.070
Whatever he's doing is no, he's not 40. He's

00:37:34.070 --> 00:37:36.969
47. Oh, he's 47. Yeah. He looks like a vampire

00:37:36.969 --> 00:37:41.550
too. It looks like a vampire. He's an investor

00:37:41.550 --> 00:37:46.510
in Prospera. Yeah. He's actually an investor

00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:49.090
in Prospera. Like he's working in the mini circle.

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.480
in order to have the aging kind of experiments

00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.679
going on as well. Which I don't know, it's a

00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:58.420
little creepy for me as you start to bring all

00:37:58.420 --> 00:38:00.099
these people together. Like you're talking about

00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:01.760
Brian Johnson who looks like a vampire. We're

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.760
talking about artificial intelligence where Sam

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.159
Altman's going. What is the end? What is the

00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.960
end game here? Why do all the billionaires and

00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.579
like the weirdos have to come together at this

00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:15.420
point in time? It's really crazy to me. Yeah,

00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.530
I've actually watched there's a There's a Netflix

00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:24.230
kind of documentary on him. I think it's called,

00:38:24.329 --> 00:38:25.789
I can't remember what it's called. Well, I'll

00:38:25.789 --> 00:38:27.690
look at it later. But he actually went there

00:38:27.690 --> 00:38:30.309
and got full of statin therapy, full of statin

00:38:30.309 --> 00:38:34.250
gene therapy. Supposedly full of statin helps

00:38:34.250 --> 00:38:37.309
you like build muscle mass. It just signals your

00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:41.670
body to build muscle mass. And I think at the

00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:43.889
end, like after three or four months, like he

00:38:43.889 --> 00:38:46.130
had put on an additional 12 % of muscle mass.

00:38:46.289 --> 00:38:48.550
Well, not that's diet exercise. Who knows? But

00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:50.369
sometimes I'm like, are these people trying to

00:38:50.369 --> 00:38:53.210
sell crap? Are they trying to give you hope for

00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:56.929
gene therapy when maybe it's complete crap? My

00:38:56.929 --> 00:39:00.210
fear with gene therapy is you're altering a gene

00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:02.469
or you're injecting a gene through a virus vector.

00:39:02.829 --> 00:39:04.369
What is it doing that you don't know? Like our

00:39:04.369 --> 00:39:07.050
genome is so complicated, so long. Like, yeah,

00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:09.889
you might get big and jacked, but is your anus

00:39:09.889 --> 00:39:12.230
going to fall off in three years? You don't know

00:39:12.230 --> 00:39:13.969
what you're doing. I'll take a pass on that one.

00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:17.630
Yeah, I'd rather keep my butt hole. Just saying.

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.079
There has to be some priority there. Wild stuff.

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:24.460
Yeah. That's it's like, I don't, I think Prospera

00:39:24.460 --> 00:39:27.719
is a mixed bag of people that are going there

00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.079
to pay a little bit less tax burden. I'm doing

00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.739
some good research, doing some odd research.

00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.460
That's just for vanity sake, but I was, I'm the

00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:38.719
kind of guy that's worried about the next step

00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.519
and what's going to be become of this. You know,

00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.199
if I think I could go start my own country tomorrow

00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.429
and move to Africa. Doesn't sound like a half

00:39:46.429 --> 00:39:50.230
back, bad idea. Like a family guy episode. I

00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:54.110
declare this Jay Stania or something. I don't

00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:57.170
follow your laws or rules. I don't pay taxes.

00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:02.730
Eric Bremen actually went to Hargrave military

00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:05.449
academy for high school and I went to fork union

00:40:05.449 --> 00:40:08.070
military academy. So that was our arrival growing

00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:11.309
up and he actually graduated. the same year that

00:40:11.309 --> 00:40:13.949
I did. So perhaps we had some passing. Obviously

00:40:13.949 --> 00:40:15.630
he's doing way better than I am because I'm doing

00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:20.170
a podcast and he's running a country. So as we

00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.010
talk about really like predictive programming

00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:26.369
and kind of like that normalized dystopia where

00:40:26.369 --> 00:40:29.230
conspiracy theorists often point to predictive

00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:31.489
programming, the ideal that dystopian ideals

00:40:31.489 --> 00:40:34.809
are seeded really into media to acclimate the

00:40:34.809 --> 00:40:38.170
public. Films like Ready Player One or Black

00:40:38.170 --> 00:40:41.349
Mirror. Westworld, betray elite tech zones and

00:40:41.349 --> 00:40:45.429
planable IDs and privatized cities. To me, Prospera

00:40:45.429 --> 00:40:48.090
looks like the real world beta test, right? Critics

00:40:48.090 --> 00:40:51.170
argue it's not really coincidence, it's programming.

00:40:51.369 --> 00:40:54.489
If people can condition to accept corporate role

00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:58.510
and kind of this biometric control in fiction,

00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:02.369
I don't think they will really, they won't resist

00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:04.889
it in reality. Like they see it on TV, like they're

00:41:04.889 --> 00:41:07.519
just become accustomed to it. I saw Westworld

00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.760
on HBO. It was really cool. Wait, now it's here

00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.099
in our modern day society. That's fine. I'll

00:41:12.099 --> 00:41:14.280
deal with it. What do you think of it? Like as

00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.579
people start to condition folks to kind of get

00:41:16.579 --> 00:41:18.619
used to this. I think that's a lot what we see

00:41:18.619 --> 00:41:21.019
in Prospera is the folks are going to start to

00:41:21.019 --> 00:41:22.659
launch their own independent cities and people

00:41:22.659 --> 00:41:24.679
that just want money. Because we see it in different

00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.699
parts of this world. It breeds towards that predictive

00:41:27.699 --> 00:41:29.679
programming. Do you see that coming to fruition?

00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.480
Yeah, I think we touched on it a little bit where,

00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.159
or at least in my opinion, like Prospera is like

00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.239
the baby that you've just introduced to the world

00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.059
and you're trying to normalize it. I don't believe

00:41:43.059 --> 00:41:45.760
for a second that some of the stuff they're doing

00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.059
is the advanced technology, the advanced research.

00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.199
I think it's a way to put something out there

00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.760
that seems kind of innocuous, where people are

00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:56.019
going to look at it and be like, oh, that's pretty

00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:59.159
cool. Like I like the idea of having low taxes.

00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:02.500
I like the idea of no regulation because we drown

00:42:02.500 --> 00:42:05.880
in regulation in the Western world. So It's a

00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.539
cool idea and it seems attractive on the outside

00:42:08.539 --> 00:42:12.920
for sure. So I think Prospera is the first step

00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.780
to kind of normalize like high level technology,

00:42:16.019 --> 00:42:19.280
a lot of kind of libertarian policies in terms

00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.599
of no borders, low taxes, a government that is

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.239
truly ruled by the people. When in reality, I

00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.760
think it's just a minor reflection of the big

00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:37.250
the big thing that's gonna come here in the next

00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:41.469
decade, 100 years, but it's just like a little

00:42:41.469 --> 00:42:43.510
microcosm. Yeah, it's one of the things that

00:42:43.510 --> 00:42:46.389
is, so it's rolled by the people. And we're starting

00:42:46.389 --> 00:42:49.449
to see this now today where Elon Musk is starting

00:42:49.449 --> 00:42:52.269
the American party, kind of oppose the Republicans,

00:42:52.590 --> 00:42:55.190
then oppose the Democrats, then have a third

00:42:55.190 --> 00:42:59.809
level democratic party in the United States.

00:43:00.289 --> 00:43:03.380
And we look at Prospera, it's like, Would we

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:07.019
rather have Trump in power or Elon Musk? I started

00:43:07.019 --> 00:43:09.340
to see that deviation of somebody that's looking

00:43:09.340 --> 00:43:12.500
to make money or somebody that's looking to make

00:43:12.500 --> 00:43:14.719
money and also improve the country. Dude, the

00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.920
other thing too, is that in the past, I don't

00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.500
know, maybe past 12 years, like everything's

00:43:20.500 --> 00:43:23.420
come from like the cult of person out. Like Trump's

00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:25.980
funny. He's entertaining. Even with Joe Biden,

00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.880
you may not agree with him, but it was ridiculous

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.079
some of the stuff he said and did. It was, it

00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.900
turned into entertainment. It's not necessarily

00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:37.880
always the best and brightest, it seems like

00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:41.599
anymore it's the one who is the most outspoken,

00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.420
can make the funniest jokes, can have quippy

00:43:45.420 --> 00:43:48.480
remarks. So I think, and with all the social

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.659
media and all the media we consume on a daily

00:43:51.659 --> 00:43:54.199
basis, with our phones, with our laptops, with

00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.460
our TV screens, everybody is, Elon Musk said,

00:43:57.820 --> 00:44:00.139
the most likely outcome is the most entertaining

00:44:00.139 --> 00:44:04.019
one. And I've... have to agree with them because

00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:07.559
we want to be entertained and it's a lot like

00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.360
Rome and spreading circus and we're falling for

00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.039
it as a country and as a world. Yeah. One of

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.239
the things I thought was really interesting about

00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.559
living on the like cups of communism and China

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.099
and living in Hong Kong is my life didn't feel

00:44:21.099 --> 00:44:22.760
a whole hell of a lot different, right? Like

00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.739
when I lived in Hong Kong versus the United States.

00:44:25.739 --> 00:44:28.159
And in fact, I felt like I had equal freedoms.

00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:32.139
I could do whatever I wanted during that time

00:44:32.139 --> 00:44:34.880
of my life. And I wonder if people though, they

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.159
just listen to politicians and it's what can

00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.860
grab their attention for that moment. So you

00:44:39.860 --> 00:44:43.119
almost have to be funny or be engaging in order

00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.780
for people to follow along with you during that

00:44:45.780 --> 00:44:49.039
time. I'm of the big belief and most people disagree

00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.679
with me, but the person that's like role in the

00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.860
United States really doesn't have a big burden

00:44:53.860 --> 00:44:56.239
on my life. My life is really not much different

00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.880
under Trump versus under Biden. Maybe the education

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:02.780
system's getting fixed. We're getting rid of

00:45:02.780 --> 00:45:05.159
some of these poor policies, but living under

00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.980
these different rules and these different places

00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:10.380
throughout my life, it's been much of the same.

00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:14.460
And if we're willing to empower the wrong people

00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:17.659
to make decisions for us on a larger, a bigger

00:45:17.659 --> 00:45:20.780
scale than just our lonely lives in the corners

00:45:20.780 --> 00:45:24.159
of Pennsylvania or Maryland, and let them worry

00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.980
about the world, I worry about what's going to

00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:30.420
transpire in the future. people like Prospera

00:45:30.420 --> 00:45:33.360
gain bigger political power as they continue

00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.059
to grow. They have an advantage over the United

00:45:36.059 --> 00:45:38.760
States and not many countries do, but the advantage

00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.579
is, is that it's like modern day and colonialists,

00:45:41.619 --> 00:45:43.860
right? Like they can just expand their borders.

00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.500
They can buy more land. They can go to other

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:49.119
continents. They can settle new cities. I mean,

00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.039
they can continue to increase that scope. And

00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.800
now it's a decentralized nation. Like it might

00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.130
be I don't know if Prospera Honduras versus Prospera

00:45:59.130 --> 00:46:01.469
Africa are going to live under the same rules

00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:04.010
and regulations. Is Eric Bremen going to run

00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.289
them all? I don't know what that case may be,

00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:08.769
but it's like you think about the United States

00:46:08.769 --> 00:46:10.809
military. They have bases all over the world

00:46:10.809 --> 00:46:12.510
because of span of influence, right? Like you

00:46:12.510 --> 00:46:15.690
start to kind of have bases and you start to

00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:20.010
have control everywhere. And I just wonder how

00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:22.929
big could it ultimately be? Dude, I also know

00:46:22.929 --> 00:46:25.639
researching Prospera. You know what came, this

00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.539
is comparing apples to oranges here, so anyone

00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:31.139
listening suggest, don't think I'm suggesting.

00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.519
But you remember Jim Jones, he went down to South

00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.639
America and that cult, he's set up in the middle

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.219
of the jungle and had all these people and was

00:46:40.219 --> 00:46:45.239
a very apparently pervasive or persuasive guy

00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.440
and got them all to drink Kool -Aid. Like that's

00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.380
what I think of sometimes when I think of these

00:46:49.380 --> 00:46:55.099
little cults in South America. Is this like a

00:46:55.099 --> 00:46:58.519
techno cult? Maybe they're not drinking literal

00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.059
poison juice, but they might be poisoning the

00:47:02.059 --> 00:47:05.360
genome for all of mankind or setting up the beast

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:10.360
system, but it's culty, man. I think any place

00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:14.119
that is that small that is self -governed can

00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:19.739
take on cult -like qualities. It's what the world

00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:22.170
revolves around, the almighty dollar. Okay, can

00:47:22.170 --> 00:47:24.989
I ingest more income? Can I keep it for myself?

00:47:25.090 --> 00:47:29.570
Can I build a bigger empire through that? And

00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.610
I think Jim Jones also just, it was about influence.

00:47:32.769 --> 00:47:35.409
That's what he cared about. Was it Costa Rica

00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:37.130
that where he brought people? I think it was

00:47:37.130 --> 00:47:39.010
Costa Rica, but maybe it was some other South

00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:41.769
American country, but can I influence these people?

00:47:41.889 --> 00:47:43.349
And a lot of these people worship the ground

00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:47.429
that he walked on. It's really interesting. It's

00:47:47.429 --> 00:47:50.110
like that great reset. Like it's a great reset.

00:47:50.329 --> 00:47:53.550
in order to have influence, power, money during

00:47:53.550 --> 00:47:56.329
those times. It was Jonestown, Guyana. That's

00:47:56.329 --> 00:47:58.769
where he went. Gotcha. Okay. But what do you

00:47:58.769 --> 00:48:02.710
make of this $11 billion lawsuit? I mean, I can't

00:48:02.710 --> 00:48:06.150
imagine the GDP of Honduras is much more than

00:48:06.150 --> 00:48:09.539
$11 billion. You just want to take all their

00:48:09.539 --> 00:48:11.719
money? What do you make of it? So I think what

00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.500
they're talking about when Prosperous are suing

00:48:14.500 --> 00:48:17.159
the Honduran government is about how much investment

00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.380
that they have into that society. And if they

00:48:19.380 --> 00:48:21.099
were crushed by the Honduran government and they

00:48:21.099 --> 00:48:23.440
had to go away, go back to their country of origin,

00:48:23.659 --> 00:48:26.280
that's the investment that they would lose. So

00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.440
perhaps that's what they're worth is $11 billion.

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.300
And they want to get that paycheck if they're

00:48:31.300 --> 00:48:33.719
forced to leave. And when they made the former

00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:36.219
agreement under the former president of Honduras,

00:48:36.489 --> 00:48:40.369
during that time. I know there's a lot of division

00:48:40.369 --> 00:48:42.550
during that. If you watch some of these videos,

00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:45.690
some of the Hondurian citizens support them and

00:48:45.690 --> 00:48:48.389
some absolutely hate them. They think they're

00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:51.170
like the Jim Jones cult where they want to stand

00:48:51.170 --> 00:48:53.809
very, very far away. But I think that bill is

00:48:53.809 --> 00:48:55.909
about how much is invested and how much they

00:48:55.909 --> 00:48:58.469
can ultimately make as they have all these startup

00:48:58.469 --> 00:49:00.989
technology companies coming out there. But that's

00:49:00.989 --> 00:49:06.469
a perspective. GDP for Honduras in 2024 was $36

00:49:06.469 --> 00:49:10.469
billion. So they're asking for a third of a country's

00:49:10.469 --> 00:49:15.389
GDP. You've seen the videos of it. You spent

00:49:15.389 --> 00:49:18.070
$10 billion there. Come on. Unless there's an

00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:19.769
underground city we don't know about, you did

00:49:19.769 --> 00:49:23.530
not spend 10 billion. You didn't. Maybe they're

00:49:23.530 --> 00:49:26.230
referring to like future, the unrealized returns

00:49:26.230 --> 00:49:28.989
in the future, but 10 billion, they probably

00:49:28.989 --> 00:49:30.809
got all that property for less than 100 billion,

00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:33.139
if I had to guess. Oh, a hundred percent. They

00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:34.760
did. I think you hit the nail on the head where

00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.400
it's unrealized return. So I think all these

00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.260
people like Sam Altman and these different tech

00:49:40.260 --> 00:49:42.559
billionaires are saying, I give you a hundred

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.000
billion dollars to carve me out a spot or give

00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:50.139
me citizenship during that time. I think you

00:49:50.139 --> 00:49:52.000
hit the nail on the head with that one. It's

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.219
unrealized returns, but also They're whether

00:49:55.219 --> 00:49:57.679
they sue in the Honduran government in the Honduran

00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.280
court and they're probably not gonna pay out

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:00.840
No, they're definitely not the only thing I can

00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.159
think of is I think some of these Special economic

00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.019
zones are governed under like under a UN treaty

00:50:06.019 --> 00:50:08.340
So I almost think that the case would have to

00:50:08.340 --> 00:50:10.960
go to the UN I'm like is the Honduras even part

00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.760
of the UN I know they are but I know there's

00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.760
I know with other special economic zones It's

00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.519
governed under some sort of treaty and I assume

00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.980
that this falls into place. And I know the argument

00:50:22.980 --> 00:50:27.219
is, even though that president repealed the ZA

00:50:27.219 --> 00:50:29.340
thing, there was some articles I was reading

00:50:29.340 --> 00:50:32.340
that it's still protected under international

00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:34.800
treaties for up to 50 years, even though I think

00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.380
Honduras declared it unconstitutional. So that

00:50:38.380 --> 00:50:40.539
fight, I don't know. I doubt they're going to

00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:42.579
win just because of all the pressure coming from

00:50:42.579 --> 00:50:45.559
the Western world and all these billionaires

00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.840
dumping money. It's got to give a guy a check

00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.670
for 100 million. Hey, let's chill. Let's forget

00:50:50.670 --> 00:50:53.269
about it. Just let us do our thing. And, you

00:50:53.269 --> 00:50:56.250
know, that government's prone to corruption as

00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:58.210
it is. I think the president that passed all

00:50:58.210 --> 00:51:00.630
this is actually sitting in federal prison in

00:51:00.630 --> 00:51:02.309
the United States right now for drug trafficking.

00:51:02.650 --> 00:51:04.190
Oh, wow. That brings up an interesting point.

00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:07.590
Do you think the citizen should have some say

00:51:07.590 --> 00:51:10.250
in what they are doing there in Prospero? Like

00:51:10.250 --> 00:51:11.869
the people that surround it. Could you imagine

00:51:11.869 --> 00:51:14.219
if somebody came out in Pennsylvania? set up

00:51:14.219 --> 00:51:16.579
an independent city right next door to you, and

00:51:16.579 --> 00:51:18.079
were living their lives. Not that they impacted

00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.800
you, but they were just next to you. Do you think

00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.960
the local residents should have some say in what's

00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:25.940
going on there? Absolutely. If you live in a

00:51:25.940 --> 00:51:27.900
democracy, you should have a say. The thing I

00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:30.860
would be worried about if I was them, being that

00:51:30.860 --> 00:51:33.760
poor, knowing that they're expanding, I'd be

00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.179
worried about them pulling the whole eminent

00:51:36.179 --> 00:51:38.599
domain role on you, taking your land for pennies

00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.260
on the dollar. If they're smart, They would go

00:51:41.260 --> 00:51:42.920
to the people that own it and say, hey, I'll

00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:44.760
sell it to you for a million bucks and get the

00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.599
hell out of there. Cause eventually they're going

00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.159
to, they're going to expand their borders if

00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.199
the government doesn't do anything. But I do

00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.059
think, and it won't happen, but I do think the

00:51:56.059 --> 00:51:59.480
government should set up some protections and

00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:03.880
some price minimums if that way the price minimums

00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.940
on the land. So the billionaires can't say, I'll

00:52:06.940 --> 00:52:08.280
give you, I'll give you a thousand dollars for

00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:11.150
that 40 acres and screw them. Yeah. I hate the

00:52:11.150 --> 00:52:14.230
eminent domain law. Right. I'm a very strong

00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:17.130
advocate for property owners' rights and people

00:52:17.130 --> 00:52:19.929
shouldn't encroach upon your ability to do whatever

00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:21.710
you want with your land, whether it's the government

00:52:21.710 --> 00:52:24.730
or people or whoever. This is a very fine line

00:52:24.730 --> 00:52:27.710
because they can purchase the land in the same

00:52:27.710 --> 00:52:30.429
token where they've bought it and they tilt the

00:52:30.429 --> 00:52:32.710
soil and they've built the buildings. They design

00:52:32.710 --> 00:52:35.329
their regulations, but I always find myself at

00:52:35.329 --> 00:52:37.429
a crossroads there because I don't want people

00:52:37.429 --> 00:52:39.449
to come to my house and tell me what to do at

00:52:39.449 --> 00:52:42.289
all. Yeah. It's such a it's such a weird thing

00:52:42.289 --> 00:52:45.250
to think about it makes me wonder it is like

00:52:45.250 --> 00:52:48.469
his Corporate governance the future or is it

00:52:48.469 --> 00:52:51.789
truly like the end of democracy? What comes so

00:52:51.789 --> 00:52:54.650
you know the story about China buying like millions

00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:57.269
of acres of farmland in the United States It

00:52:57.269 --> 00:53:01.210
seems similar. So let's say we were enemies like

00:53:01.210 --> 00:53:03.369
we're not we're friendly, but not right We're

00:53:03.369 --> 00:53:05.809
always trying to one -up or trying to spy or

00:53:05.809 --> 00:53:09.690
trying to take some form of power from one another

00:53:10.179 --> 00:53:12.500
Can you imagine if there's a war in like China's

00:53:12.500 --> 00:53:15.099
we're just not gonna let you grow. That's corporatism

00:53:15.099 --> 00:53:17.800
That is I own the land obviously in a war that

00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.380
we just reclaim it But even in this kind of Cold

00:53:20.380 --> 00:53:22.760
War, we're doing with China. Oh, it's my land.

00:53:23.139 --> 00:53:24.760
Don't don't you can't force me to farm I mean,

00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:27.659
that's huge So I think we experienced some of

00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:29.559
it here in this country with other countries

00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.219
big corporations buying up huge swaths of land

00:53:32.219 --> 00:53:34.739
that could be used for food cattle buying up

00:53:34.739 --> 00:53:38.840
wildlife portions of wildlife reserves and it

00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.239
is scary because you know, land mass is finite.

00:53:43.820 --> 00:53:45.920
And in order to have a society that flourishes,

00:53:46.019 --> 00:53:49.059
you have to optimize the use. And if you have

00:53:49.059 --> 00:53:51.460
10 % of your land bought up by corporations or

00:53:51.460 --> 00:53:54.000
other governments, given our laws, you can't

00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.739
tell them what they can and can't do with it.

00:53:55.820 --> 00:53:58.159
It reflects this, like, prosperity is kind of

00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.219
a microcosm of that, or potentially could be

00:54:00.219 --> 00:54:04.260
a microcosm of that, especially in a little island

00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:07.840
of Roatan. Yeah. It's also, it makes me think.

00:54:07.929 --> 00:54:10.730
because it's about the expand of control. When

00:54:10.730 --> 00:54:14.409
I worked at Amazon Web Services, one of the largest

00:54:14.409 --> 00:54:17.110
fiber line in the entire world runs through Northern

00:54:17.110 --> 00:54:20.789
Virginia to Washington DC. It was many years

00:54:20.789 --> 00:54:23.710
ago, it was put in the ground by the US Army

00:54:23.710 --> 00:54:25.750
and then it was sold off to private enterprise.

00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:29.070
And that's why the largest data center bank in

00:54:29.070 --> 00:54:32.219
the world is in Northern Virginia. Now, as they

00:54:32.219 --> 00:54:35.380
continue to buy land to build data centers for

00:54:35.380 --> 00:54:38.119
it, what it's ultimately doing is it's raising

00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:40.820
the electric price. So more people are paying

00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:43.159
much more money for their power bills. And a

00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:44.920
lot of people actually can't afford their mortgage

00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.139
anymore because they're paying five, 600 bucks

00:54:47.139 --> 00:54:49.139
just to keep their lights on during the day.

00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:51.360
And they ultimately sell their land because they

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:53.300
just have to get rid of it. because they can't

00:54:53.300 --> 00:54:55.639
afford to keep the electric on. And you wonder

00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.780
places like Prospera that if I can't buy, if

00:54:58.780 --> 00:55:01.000
I can't go to Jay Green's house and buy his land,

00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:03.599
how can I force him out? I could improve my property.

00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.820
I could raise your property, right? Because my

00:55:05.820 --> 00:55:07.460
property is worth more. The fact that you're

00:55:07.460 --> 00:55:09.679
located next to me, your property is worth more.

00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:11.579
And now you can't afford to pay the government

00:55:11.579 --> 00:55:14.179
for your property bill. Then maybe the government

00:55:14.179 --> 00:55:15.900
will run you out of town and they will sell it

00:55:15.900 --> 00:55:17.940
to me. Or maybe you can't afford to keep your

00:55:17.940 --> 00:55:20.599
lights on because now electric Electricity is

00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.960
scarce or perhaps water because a lot of data

00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.760
centers require a lot of water to keep it cool.

00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:26.980
Now water prices go up because water becomes

00:55:26.980 --> 00:55:31.039
more scarce as a tool. So that's why I believe

00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.460
in citizen right in order to kind of block these

00:55:33.460 --> 00:55:35.119
things, even though I'm a very strong property

00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.599
rights owner, because it can actually influence

00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.239
you a little bit. You may come to Jay and say,

00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.239
I want your house. And you say, F you give me

00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.579
$10 billion. I can probably find a better way

00:55:44.579 --> 00:55:46.320
to do it. I can raise your power bill. I can

00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.699
raise your tax bill. I can eventually run you

00:55:48.699 --> 00:55:50.960
out of town without ever argued with you. I could

00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.940
just make it more difficult and more, more expensive

00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:57.679
for it. So that's why I think that people should

00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.800
have some say in who their corporate neighbors

00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.300
are. And I always wonder, like when I worked

00:56:03.300 --> 00:56:06.559
at Amazon, I ran a large team for them and every

00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.699
year I had to terminate somebody. It didn't matter

00:56:08.699 --> 00:56:10.920
if everybody on my team was great. That didn't

00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:12.760
matter. I had to terminate somebody because it

00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:15.460
kind of Set the bar. Like you're the worst performer.

00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:16.920
Even if you were a good performer, you're the

00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.619
worst performer and I'm getting rid of you. And

00:56:18.619 --> 00:56:21.119
if I think about those kinds of tech billionaires,

00:56:21.219 --> 00:56:23.579
if they're running society, what are they going

00:56:23.579 --> 00:56:25.780
to do to improve? Like if they're ultimately

00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:28.239
in control of everything, the laws, the governance,

00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.860
the tax bill, all the things, that's what scares

00:56:31.860 --> 00:56:34.440
me. Like I much rather live under Trump or even

00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.460
Biden than Jeff Bezos, because I know what Jeff

00:56:37.460 --> 00:56:40.179
is in game is. Like his in game is to make money.

00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:43.340
So they're in They're worshiping that almighty

00:56:43.340 --> 00:56:45.579
dollar there. And that's what makes me concerned.

00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:48.639
And what we're seeing now is a society that's

00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.199
propped up where if you have more money, you're

00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.199
empowered. You have more voting rights. You have

00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.239
more determination of what that society is going

00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.559
to look like. And we see it in Russia, the oligarchs.

00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:00.920
They're passing out, hey, you want to own the

00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.079
oil company? Here you go. Just vote for me. And

00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:04.480
they influence it. And we see the same thing

00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.539
in China. We see the same thing in many countries.

00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:13.539
feudalism rebranding. It's corporate feudalism.

00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.519
You're the lord of the manor and all these people

00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:17.880
work for you and you own all the land and you

00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.340
give them the right to work, to live, to eat.

00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:24.360
It's scary. It's not, instead of having knights

00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.280
on horseback and spearmen, you have billions

00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.340
of dollars and advanced technology and you can

00:57:30.340 --> 00:57:32.340
sit up in your castle tower and look down and

00:57:32.340 --> 00:57:34.480
be like, all right, this all belongs to me. I

00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.300
just have to find a way to make them think that

00:57:36.300 --> 00:57:39.920
it doesn't belong to me. So. That it comes down

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.900
to that dollar theory, right? Because most people

00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:45.280
in this world will do anything for money, whether

00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.780
it's doing something crazy on Facebook or launching

00:57:49.780 --> 00:57:52.860
a YouTube series or whatever. If you're going

00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:55.480
to pay me 10 bucks, I'll go out and do it. There's

00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.559
already a podcast. Yeah. But they will do it.

00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.280
And I worry about a culture that's obsessed with

00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:04.519
that. That's their end game is just to make money.

00:58:05.059 --> 00:58:07.179
I worry what that end game is going to look like.

00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:10.420
You know, to start back to where we started this

00:58:10.420 --> 00:58:13.599
conversation, um, about revelations. And I think

00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.940
it's very clear in the Bible, like the reason

00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:18.239
why they call out transaction. You have to get

00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.320
the market, the beast, or you can't buy anything.

00:58:20.860 --> 00:58:23.099
We're living in a transactional society that

00:58:23.099 --> 00:58:25.739
washes up the dollar now. And man, I don't know.

00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.219
It's, you know, obviously we can't live without

00:58:28.219 --> 00:58:31.880
money, but at the same time we can't revolve

00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:33.880
our lives around money. We have to make wise

00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.550
choices for our families and loved ones. The

00:58:37.550 --> 00:58:40.150
one big problem about a zero -sum game like you

00:58:40.150 --> 00:58:42.130
you pay a dollar to count a four and it moves

00:58:42.130 --> 00:58:46.530
on and I think the way our society set up is

00:58:46.530 --> 00:58:50.130
I want the most dollars and once you have I always

00:58:50.130 --> 00:58:52.429
argue like once you have so much money it's really

00:58:52.429 --> 00:58:55.030
not a real thing to you anymore if I had a hundred

00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:57.949
billion dollars like money is not really I don't

00:58:57.949 --> 00:59:01.690
all my problems with money go away so as a man

00:59:01.690 --> 00:59:04.250
and as a person who gets bored. I'm going to

00:59:04.250 --> 00:59:06.989
think of cool ways to spend this money that really

00:59:06.989 --> 00:59:09.409
has no value to me, because I have so much of

00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:11.989
it. My great, great, great grandkids could live

00:59:11.989 --> 00:59:14.530
like kings. So then you start thinking of these

00:59:14.530 --> 00:59:17.230
weird ways to manipulate society and government

00:59:17.230 --> 00:59:19.889
and hey, this is a cool island in Honduras. Let's

00:59:19.889 --> 00:59:22.889
go buy it. Let's just play around and see what

00:59:22.889 --> 00:59:27.349
happens. It's true though. It's crazy to think

00:59:27.349 --> 00:59:31.940
about, but it is true. I don't know. I would

00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:34.460
love to have $100 billion because I would retire

00:59:34.460 --> 00:59:38.139
and nobody ever see me again. But I guess a lot

00:59:38.139 --> 00:59:41.760
of people would use it to influence folks and

00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.179
influence the elections and influence all these

00:59:44.179 --> 00:59:49.920
things. What do you think the one positive and

00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.699
the one negative it is for us to take away today

00:59:52.699 --> 00:59:55.809
from this conversation? The one negative. Uh,

00:59:55.869 --> 00:59:58.050
man, I think I've said it a hundred times, which

00:59:58.050 --> 00:59:59.849
is probably irritating for whoever's listening,

01:00:00.050 --> 01:00:02.949
but I think the negative is that we have these

01:00:02.949 --> 01:00:06.750
corporations who obviously influence our political

01:00:06.750 --> 01:00:08.929
arena, not only in the U .S., but all over the

01:00:08.929 --> 01:00:11.250
world. They manipulate governments, and now they're

01:00:11.250 --> 01:00:13.170
trying to create their own little cities and

01:00:13.170 --> 01:00:15.409
outposts to do what they want to do without the

01:00:15.409 --> 01:00:18.510
regulation, without the high tax burden. and

01:00:18.510 --> 01:00:20.329
its way to stuff more money in their pockets,

01:00:20.469 --> 01:00:23.349
either through lack of taxation, not giving back

01:00:23.349 --> 01:00:27.190
to society, or to certain regulation that could

01:00:27.190 --> 01:00:31.170
have a profound effect on those that live locally

01:00:31.170 --> 01:00:33.409
and around. Think about Wuhan. What if they're

01:00:33.409 --> 01:00:36.789
doing viral research? If it's not regulated,

01:00:37.170 --> 01:00:39.469
if there's no system set in place, what's it

01:00:39.469 --> 01:00:41.409
say? They don't release something terrible. And

01:00:41.409 --> 01:00:43.630
I think that's scary. Create the disease so you

01:00:43.630 --> 01:00:47.480
can release the cure. And what do you think is

01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:49.539
the one positive to take away? I think the one

01:00:49.539 --> 01:00:53.159
positive, and it is kind of reflective of the

01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.619
negative, is that if you want to look at the

01:00:55.619 --> 01:00:57.679
good side of it, is that you can create your

01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:00.639
own community, put up your own laws, not have

01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:03.400
a heavy tax burden, and not be heavily regulated.

01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:06.460
So I think it's good in there. It really depends

01:01:06.460 --> 01:01:10.920
on people and their intentions on how they use

01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:13.500
it. It could be a paradise. It could be a utopia.

01:01:13.539 --> 01:01:17.940
It could be a dystopia. unfortunately I think

01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:20.320
swing either way you think that's ultimately

01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.659
the American dream I think the American dream

01:01:22.659 --> 01:01:26.059
man is you at least for me the American dream

01:01:26.059 --> 01:01:29.420
is to have beautiful loving family a bunch of

01:01:29.420 --> 01:01:32.500
land everyone leaves you alone if your neighbor

01:01:32.500 --> 01:01:34.679
needs help you help them you don't have to rely

01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.940
on the government you can work the land you can

01:01:37.940 --> 01:01:41.000
buy sell and trade with fiat you can invest and

01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.579
you can help others. I think that's the American

01:01:42.579 --> 01:01:44.500
dream. It's not buying a house and having a car

01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:46.980
and working 65 hours a week just so you can see

01:01:46.980 --> 01:01:48.840
your wife for an hour on the weekend, go to one

01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:50.500
of your kids' baseball games and not really know

01:01:50.500 --> 01:01:52.199
who in the hell they are. More what you sound

01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:56.199
like is... Yeah, so more though, more so I think

01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:57.739
what you're talking about is the biblical dream,

01:01:57.860 --> 01:02:00.599
like Jesus' vision for our life. I think from

01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.800
a positive aspect, and I'll start on the flip

01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:07.340
side of the coin, is what we're seeing is a society

01:02:07.340 --> 01:02:10.699
being built from the ground up. Kind of paving

01:02:10.699 --> 01:02:13.039
their way forward. And for me, that is the American

01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:14.900
dream. You can take something, you can create

01:02:14.900 --> 01:02:17.519
it, you can build it, you can mature it. And

01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:20.380
hopefully that it pays off. And hopefully it

01:02:20.380 --> 01:02:22.880
way it pays off is it improves the lives of those

01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:24.739
around you. You take care of your neighbor, you

01:02:24.739 --> 01:02:27.139
take care of your friend, take care of your brother.

01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.659
You're able to invest in that culture and the

01:02:29.659 --> 01:02:32.239
lives of folks. So are they doing that? I don't

01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.840
know, but I think they have the opportunity to

01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:38.719
do a lot of good. To exit out of a society that's

01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.320
broken. and come together to build something

01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:44.579
ultimately that's amazing. The other positive

01:02:44.579 --> 01:02:46.800
really is that if they're working on medical

01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.820
research that's being blocked by FDA to cure

01:02:49.820 --> 01:02:53.360
HIV, to work on cures versus treatments, I think

01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.420
that's ultimately better. I like in order to

01:02:55.420 --> 01:02:58.849
cure cancer. Instead of selling you chemo and

01:02:58.849 --> 01:03:00.989
selling you pills to take, I think they have

01:03:00.989 --> 01:03:04.010
the opportunity. And what that's really exciting

01:03:04.010 --> 01:03:06.769
about a new culture is the amount of opportunity

01:03:06.769 --> 01:03:09.809
that is giving. Now it's ultimately up to Eric

01:03:09.809 --> 01:03:12.269
and it's up to Prospera of what they're going

01:03:12.269 --> 01:03:14.030
to do with that opportunity. Are they going to

01:03:14.030 --> 01:03:15.650
fall back on the dollar or are they going to

01:03:15.650 --> 01:03:18.550
fall back on hope of what God and Christ has

01:03:18.550 --> 01:03:22.230
given us a force to side? Negative? Man, my negative

01:03:22.230 --> 01:03:25.329
spirals down a deep dark hole of the mark of

01:03:25.329 --> 01:03:28.659
the beast. and fall in societies and the end

01:03:28.659 --> 01:03:31.320
of the world. It's very, two very hopeful extreme.

01:03:31.500 --> 01:03:33.420
They like one we're marching towards Christ and

01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:36.360
one we're firmly marching away. And you know,

01:03:36.500 --> 01:03:39.900
that is it's ultimately it's a flip of a coin.

01:03:40.099 --> 01:03:42.619
Ultimately what they choose to do with it, whether

01:03:42.619 --> 01:03:45.380
make or break it. So I think the one thing that

01:03:45.380 --> 01:03:48.500
might be the elephant in the room. And so it's

01:03:48.500 --> 01:03:51.699
thousand acre property attached to a big country,

01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.820
a militarized country. If Honduras has ever.

01:03:54.989 --> 01:03:56.650
Just get sick of it. What's the keeping them

01:03:56.650 --> 01:03:59.349
from going? It's taken it. Obviously money and

01:03:59.349 --> 01:04:01.710
power and influence from Western nations, but

01:04:01.710 --> 01:04:03.449
they get to say, they could go in there and kick

01:04:03.449 --> 01:04:04.789
them out and there was nothing they could do

01:04:04.789 --> 01:04:07.170
about it. And that's kind of the elephant in

01:04:07.170 --> 01:04:10.190
the room. So that leads me to believe that some

01:04:10.190 --> 01:04:13.610
of this drama about them declaring it unconstitutional.

01:04:13.809 --> 01:04:15.630
Yeah, it's still there. It just leads me to believe

01:04:15.630 --> 01:04:18.210
that they're being paid. Here's money. Let's

01:04:18.210 --> 01:04:23.019
let it be. It's interesting. I actually dropped

01:04:23.019 --> 01:04:26.440
the link into our podcast here, but as I saw

01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:28.099
in yesterday, they're actually shutting down

01:04:28.099 --> 01:04:29.639
some of their buildings. They like some of the

01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.559
buildings that they've launched to do medical

01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:33.559
research. They've actually barred the doors.

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:38.360
They drop military personnel in there to stop

01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.460
people from going to work every day. We're talking

01:04:41.460 --> 01:04:44.139
about a society that is ultimately viewed as

01:04:44.139 --> 01:04:47.539
very corrupt and they probably are getting payouts.

01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:50.519
At the same time, maybe the former president

01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.960
got a whole lot more payouts and that's why he

01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.219
allowed them Prospera to establish their Versus

01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:58.659
the new president is maybe getting payouts from

01:04:58.659 --> 01:05:00.639
somewhere else and that's why they're trying

01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:06.420
to prevent it. Yeah point But it's you know,

01:05:06.420 --> 01:05:08.519
I think we're living on the flip of a coin man

01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:10.619
I could either go bad or could go really good

01:05:10.619 --> 01:05:12.119
that you mentioned something earlier You said

01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.420
that there do you know where in Africa they're

01:05:14.420 --> 01:05:16.340
trying to expand? I don't it's good question.

01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.440
Let me look it up real quick I'll cut out the

01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.260
blanks. It was interesting. I actually listened

01:05:21.260 --> 01:05:24.480
to, I typed in podcast. You probably add this

01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:26.260
to the podcast if you want where you're researching.

01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:29.699
I was, it was interesting. I got on my Apple,

01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.800
I have the Apple podcast thing on my phone and

01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.760
I typed in Prospera and I listened to this podcast

01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:37.820
with this, I can't remember the woman's name

01:05:37.820 --> 01:05:40.559
and she seemed lovely, but she was in her, she's

01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:43.960
an African and she was interviewing a resident

01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.820
and worker at Prospera. And it was an interesting

01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:48.460
conversation to have. If you want me to find

01:05:48.460 --> 01:05:50.139
the link to her podcast, I can give that to you

01:05:50.139 --> 01:05:52.719
as well. But the person she was interviewing

01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:55.219
had nothing but great things to say about Prosper.

01:05:55.420 --> 01:05:58.079
She said it gave her a job, gave her family a

01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:01.820
job, helped bring in tourism, just glowing rave

01:06:01.820 --> 01:06:04.659
reviews about how positive it was for her and

01:06:04.659 --> 01:06:07.820
her family. And she was spinning the narrative

01:06:07.820 --> 01:06:10.079
counter to what some of the other locals are

01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.780
saying that it's bad and it's a drain, but I

01:06:13.780 --> 01:06:16.489
can send that link. Awesome. Yeah, that's really

01:06:16.489 --> 01:06:19.170
interesting. So where they're actually planning

01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:22.590
on being established is in Senegal, which Mali

01:06:22.590 --> 01:06:25.670
is to the east and Guyana is to the southeast

01:06:25.670 --> 01:06:28.409
of it. And it's kind of towards the Gambium or

01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:31.570
the narrow country that's almost entirely surrounded

01:06:31.570 --> 01:06:33.929
by Senegal, right? So it's kind of in the heart

01:06:33.929 --> 01:06:36.030
of Africa. What's interesting about it is the

01:06:36.030 --> 01:06:38.730
country actually has a strategic Atlantic coastline.

01:06:38.809 --> 01:06:41.769
with the capital of Dakar sitting on the westernmost

01:06:41.769 --> 01:06:44.610
point of the African mainland, which as an upstart

01:06:44.610 --> 01:06:47.130
society, you would want control trade routes,

01:06:47.210 --> 01:06:49.869
like you'd want the ports of entry and have the

01:06:49.869 --> 01:06:52.030
boats to be able to dock within your society.

01:06:52.590 --> 01:06:55.369
So Senegal is actually a very strategic place

01:06:55.369 --> 01:06:57.469
to have it. And as we look at history, Senegal

01:06:57.469 --> 01:07:00.900
was actually a major hub of transatlantic. Slave

01:07:00.900 --> 01:07:03.539
trade during that time. So it's been a historic

01:07:03.539 --> 01:07:06.179
kind of slave port during those times in that

01:07:06.179 --> 01:07:08.840
port and the shipping lane still exists today

01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:10.940
Which is if I was talking about a place I want

01:07:10.940 --> 01:07:14.139
big airports or big waterways where I could ship

01:07:14.139 --> 01:07:16.679
goods and somewhere else It's also interesting

01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:18.980
that they choose these countries that are so

01:07:18.980 --> 01:07:22.780
poor and poor not only poor economically, but

01:07:22.780 --> 01:07:25.559
probably very poor in terms of government probably

01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:30.670
a lot of Not only poor governance terrible laws,

01:07:31.030 --> 01:07:33.230
but I don't know anything about Senegal. I'm

01:07:33.230 --> 01:07:36.469
just taking a leap of faith here. I'm assuming

01:07:36.469 --> 01:07:38.849
it's somewhat corrupt as well. It's just interesting

01:07:38.849 --> 01:07:41.329
to target. I think it ultimately comes down to

01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:43.110
the dollar, right? So it's what countries can

01:07:43.110 --> 01:07:45.409
you pay enough to let you do what you want? All

01:07:45.409 --> 01:07:47.590
right, brother. So here is the question and I'll

01:07:47.590 --> 01:07:50.489
leave you with today. You think our cities like

01:07:50.489 --> 01:07:54.130
Prospera, the solution to broken systems, or

01:07:54.130 --> 01:07:56.849
are they the beginning of something far more

01:07:56.849 --> 01:07:59.260
dangerous? Oh man, that's a tough one. I mean,

01:07:59.260 --> 01:08:02.579
I think the solution to our broken systems is

01:08:02.579 --> 01:08:05.880
Jesus Christ, His ultimate kingdom. As men and

01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.639
women, we're going to screw everything up we

01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:10.599
do. Especially when you get millions or billions

01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:11.960
of people together, like no one's ever going

01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:13.980
to agree on the system. I think it's just another

01:08:13.980 --> 01:08:17.079
rendition. There's a saying from the Bible, there's

01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:19.060
nothing new under the sun. It's just another

01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:22.979
way to manipulate, to colonize, to take advantage

01:08:22.979 --> 01:08:25.640
of poor people that have bad governments. It's

01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.239
not the solution. The ultimate solution is...

01:08:28.010 --> 01:08:30.949
I say Amen to that. The ultimate solution is

01:08:30.949 --> 01:08:33.510
to have discernment, keep your eyes focused on

01:08:33.510 --> 01:08:36.189
Christ, and live a good life. And we can't control

01:08:36.189 --> 01:08:38.569
everything that's out there, but what we can

01:08:38.569 --> 01:08:41.529
control is what's inside our hearts and what

01:08:41.529 --> 01:08:44.270
we do for our families, friends, and for the

01:08:44.270 --> 01:08:46.770
society that surrounds us. So whether Prosper

01:08:46.770 --> 01:08:48.829
is the answers or not, you have to decide for

01:08:48.829 --> 01:08:51.130
yourself. But for this guy, I'm not visiting

01:08:51.130 --> 01:08:53.850
anytime soon. Do you have to give you a free

01:08:53.850 --> 01:08:56.710
week? vacation at their sweet resort. Come on.

01:08:56.789 --> 01:09:03.630
We'll go down. Hey, we want a free weekend travel

01:09:03.630 --> 01:09:05.810
for at least 10 and we'll come down and check

01:09:05.810 --> 01:09:07.909
it out and give you a good review. There you

01:09:07.909 --> 01:09:11.729
go. All right, brother. I'll be up on a beach

01:09:11.729 --> 01:09:20.449
side cabana. Thanks for listening. Jesus loves

01:09:20.449 --> 01:09:22.659
you. I love you. I love you, brother. It was

01:09:22.659 --> 01:09:25.779
fun. Love you. Love Jesus. Love you guys. We'll

01:09:25.779 --> 01:09:26.439
see you next time.
