WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.600 Welcome to the Rexam Coffee Matchup. I'm Dave. 00:00:02.859 --> 00:00:05.339 And I'm Courtney. Each week, we'll take a few 00:00:05.339 --> 00:00:07.759 minutes to catch up on the latest news from Rexam. 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:11.000 From matchups to transfers, on and off the pitch, 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.019 we'll share our takes on it all. So grab a coffee 00:00:14.019 --> 00:00:18.480 and join us. Dave, it has truly been a while. 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.359 It has been a while, but unlike you said last 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:25.550 time, we are back. We are back. Last time was 00:00:25.550 --> 00:00:28.269 not our last episode, so we are back. No, not 00:00:28.269 --> 00:00:30.649 at all. And a lot has happened in the last two 00:00:30.649 --> 00:00:33.689 weeks that we can kind of catch up on. And our 00:00:33.689 --> 00:00:36.990 plan will be to kind of get together periodically 00:00:36.990 --> 00:00:39.009 throughout the summer and kind of talk about 00:00:39.009 --> 00:00:42.609 the news as it happens, give our thoughts. But 00:00:42.609 --> 00:00:46.570 since we last filmed just hours after the final 00:00:46.570 --> 00:00:49.810 match of the season and hadn't had time to sort 00:00:49.810 --> 00:00:52.899 of process. The season so I thought we would 00:00:52.899 --> 00:00:54.820 come back and just kind of share a little more 00:00:54.820 --> 00:00:57.880 in depth of thoughts and I have a little bit 00:00:57.880 --> 00:00:59.960 of news updates and just a few things that we 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:02.619 can touch on this week and we'll see where it 00:01:02.619 --> 00:01:06.680 goes. Yeah Okay, let's jump in. Let's jump in. 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.900 So right after we filmed And I kind of want to 00:01:09.900 --> 00:01:12.560 get your take on some of these things So the 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:14.400 day after we filmed they had the end of the season 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.829 award which include the combination of the awards. 00:01:18.010 --> 00:01:19.890 This was just for the club, right? Just for the 00:01:19.890 --> 00:01:23.689 club. And it's the ones that are voted for by 00:01:23.689 --> 00:01:27.250 the players and by the fans, right? So remember, 00:01:27.430 --> 00:01:29.549 we put in our votes for the player of the season 00:01:29.549 --> 00:01:32.829 and I think the goal of the season. And then 00:01:32.829 --> 00:01:35.030 there's also a vote for the young player of the 00:01:35.030 --> 00:01:40.040 season. I do recall a goal of the season. Yes. 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.780 So the young player of the season and the players 00:01:45.780 --> 00:01:47.840 player of the season, which is the voted on by 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.540 the other players, ended up going to Calum Doyle, 00:01:51.659 --> 00:01:55.680 which I think was very well deserved. I had actually 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:58.040 considered him for my player of the season just 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:02.489 because he really came sort of. like under the 00:02:02.489 --> 00:02:04.489 radar at the beginning of the season, but that 00:02:04.489 --> 00:02:07.650 just became became more and more and more important 00:02:07.650 --> 00:02:10.770 as the season went on. And it's just really demonstrated 00:02:10.770 --> 00:02:14.229 that what a great investment he is and what he 00:02:14.229 --> 00:02:17.189 seems to be. And I can't believe that he's only 00:02:17.189 --> 00:02:20.849 like 20 years old or 21 years old. It's. crazy 00:02:20.849 --> 00:02:24.330 that he's that young. But OK, so like I have 00:02:24.330 --> 00:02:26.569 learned that one of the worst spirals you can 00:02:26.569 --> 00:02:29.650 go down in the world of professional sports is 00:02:29.650 --> 00:02:33.210 how old is this person? Because no matter how 00:02:33.210 --> 00:02:35.870 old they are, it will make you feel even older 00:02:35.870 --> 00:02:39.490 because even if they're old and they're 30, you 00:02:39.490 --> 00:02:43.050 think 30 is old. So when I learn about these 00:02:43.050 --> 00:02:45.060 players, it never ends well. I learned about 00:02:45.060 --> 00:02:46.860 these players, especially some of the new players 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:49.419 whose parents, their fathers were professional 00:02:49.419 --> 00:02:52.439 football players as well. And I always want to 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.460 go and look them up and kind of learn about them 00:02:54.460 --> 00:02:57.099 as well, because we weren't following over the 00:02:57.099 --> 00:03:01.349 years. Some of them, like I believe Josh Windass's 00:03:01.349 --> 00:03:04.590 father is probably the same age, if not a little 00:03:04.590 --> 00:03:07.830 younger than me. Yeah. And so like when you get 00:03:07.830 --> 00:03:10.509 into those moments, you're like, wait, you know, 00:03:10.729 --> 00:03:15.389 I will follow your avoiding of the spiral. I 00:03:15.389 --> 00:03:18.650 mean, you can't because it will happen. But yeah, 00:03:18.689 --> 00:03:22.580 right. Um, so the goal of the season, uh, which 00:03:22.580 --> 00:03:24.580 you're, you're a little pointing at your, your, 00:03:24.699 --> 00:03:28.419 I'll have my children sweatshirt. Uh, that is 00:03:28.419 --> 00:03:30.800 the goal against QPR that won the goal of the 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:35.280 season. Well deserved, well deserved. And just, 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.379 that was kind of that point when we, we were 00:03:38.379 --> 00:03:42.500 on that wave of transformation, which I kind 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:44.960 of want to come back to a little bit later. Um, 00:03:46.099 --> 00:03:51.360 where at that point winning was becoming something 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.659 that we could count on and could be used to and 00:03:53.659 --> 00:03:56.680 enjoy and not worry so much about our season. 00:03:56.900 --> 00:03:58.560 We knew we weren't going to be relegated anymore 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.740 at that point. But it just and then Ali Rathbone 00:04:02.740 --> 00:04:05.659 being back because he was out for so much of 00:04:05.659 --> 00:04:08.080 the season. I mean, he only came back onto the 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.039 team. First appearance was in mid December from 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.659 his injury in August. And so the fact that he 00:04:13.659 --> 00:04:15.340 came out with such force, which we've talked 00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:17.899 about a lot, it was well deserved. I just wish 00:04:17.899 --> 00:04:23.680 that the site that that solicited the votes didn't 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:28.120 include YouTube clips of the actual goals. Because 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.699 did or didn't did not the one I saw. And so I. 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.120 didn't remember which goal was which. And so 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.480 I didn't remember this as the have my children 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:41.459 goal, which spawned a whole cottage industry 00:04:41.459 --> 00:04:45.519 of sweatshirts and t shirts and, you know, and 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.139 Ryan Reynolds, you know, doing everything for 00:04:48.139 --> 00:04:51.839 him. So it's fun to see that that that was the 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:56.579 winner this year. Yeah. And then the top goal 00:04:56.579 --> 00:04:58.980 scorer and the player of the season both went 00:04:58.980 --> 00:05:01.860 to Joshua and Des. No surprise there. Joshua 00:05:01.860 --> 00:05:05.240 and Des with his 17 goals, unless you look on 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:08.699 certain websites that still say 16, because they're 00:05:08.699 --> 00:05:11.139 contesting one of those goals. But still heads 00:05:11.139 --> 00:05:13.899 and shoulders above the rest of the team. And 00:05:13.899 --> 00:05:15.819 just well deserved. Are they contesting the one 00:05:15.819 --> 00:05:17.740 that he said, hey, that was me and not promising? 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.879 No, no, not that. So the team has actually formally 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:24.120 petitioned for it to be assigned to Windass. 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:26.920 That particular one. That particular goal. And 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.180 so it's not in his tallies. Is that the one? 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:33.360 Is this the maybe 17? Yeah, the maybe 17 is that 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.860 goal right there. But I love the fact that because 00:05:36.860 --> 00:05:42.220 this was a fan vote that we were not alone. in 00:05:42.220 --> 00:05:44.839 our growing love of Joshua Nass throughout the 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.379 season. I think we never did not have love for 00:05:47.379 --> 00:05:50.060 him from the very first match. And actually for 00:05:50.060 --> 00:05:52.459 you watching the documentary, which we'll talk 00:05:52.459 --> 00:05:56.959 about in a minute, it reminds me how quickly 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.319 he made an impact on our team from that very 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.339 first match, which was just great to see. And 00:06:02.339 --> 00:06:05.540 so so there's a lot to look forward to as we 00:06:05.540 --> 00:06:09.730 as we go into the new season. Definitely. Yeah, 00:06:09.730 --> 00:06:13.189 so as we mentioned, so we just missed the playoffs. 00:06:13.750 --> 00:06:19.230 I like so much. Breath. Breath. Hull went on 00:06:19.230 --> 00:06:22.189 to defeat Millwall. And so they earned their 00:06:22.189 --> 00:06:25.410 spot at Wembley. And then Southampton defeated 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:29.470 Middlesbrough. And so Southampton. I cannot wait 00:06:29.470 --> 00:06:33.610 for this. OK. Also scheduled in the final. And 00:06:33.610 --> 00:06:38.399 I say scheduled in the final. for now, because 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.079 it came to light even I think it was right before 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:45.759 or right after the first of the two game playoff 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:49.000 series. I also just want to say, yeah, I know 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.000 nothing about this. I heard a little rumor of 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.459 it and then I said, actually, I'm going to let 00:06:55.459 --> 00:06:57.759 you tell me all about it. So I am coming into 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.579 this with so much anticipation because I don't 00:07:00.579 --> 00:07:05.879 know anything. So there is an EFL rule that It 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:09.379 is illegal to observe the training activities 00:07:09.379 --> 00:07:13.259 of your opponents for a 72 hour window prior 00:07:13.259 --> 00:07:18.120 to a match. Any match? Any match between you 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.160 and them. So your match with that team. So you 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.279 can't observe training. So people go to games, 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.500 they watch the plays, they do all that stuff, 00:07:25.620 --> 00:07:27.579 right? That's kind of standard practice. We know 00:07:27.579 --> 00:07:29.800 Parky goes to other matches to get an idea of 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.560 who they're playing against. They watch videos, 00:07:31.660 --> 00:07:36.600 all that stuff. before the first leg of the semifinals, 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:40.600 when Middlesbrough was training at home, their 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.980 training ground butts up against a golf course 00:07:42.980 --> 00:07:47.639 that is a hotel resort. And on the edge of the 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.740 golf course, behind the chain fence, behind a 00:07:50.740 --> 00:07:55.800 tree, there was spotted a member of the Southampton 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:00.250 staff taking video of the training session. And 00:08:00.250 --> 00:08:02.930 so I shared with you a picture. You just sent 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:06.110 this picture to me. And I would say not behind 00:08:06.110 --> 00:08:12.670 a tree. Next to a tree. Next to a tree. To me, 00:08:12.709 --> 00:08:14.550 the first thought when I saw this picture, and 00:08:14.550 --> 00:08:16.810 I'll have producer Eric put it up on the screen, 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:19.230 it kind of came through. It was an athletic article. 00:08:19.370 --> 00:08:22.970 It's been distributed everywhere. It looks like 00:08:22.970 --> 00:08:28.879 a scene from The Simpsons. Where? the school 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.519 idiot is spying and thinks he's hidden. I mean, 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.059 I think the only the only way for it to be worse 00:08:37.059 --> 00:08:39.580 would be like you're wearing, you know, the name 00:08:39.580 --> 00:08:43.139 of your team emblazoned across maybe maybe waving 00:08:43.139 --> 00:08:46.980 the flag, right? Like, right. Right. So so this 00:08:46.980 --> 00:08:49.879 is this has been labeled Spygate. It's been pretty 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.799 much the talk of everything. This came out before 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.139 the second semifinal match. OK, I have some questions. 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:02.200 Yes. Please. Who discovered that this was happening? 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.620 I believe it was people from the Middlesbrough 00:09:06.620 --> 00:09:10.139 training camp. Has this person been interviewed 00:09:10.139 --> 00:09:12.019 and what did the video look like and how many 00:09:12.019 --> 00:09:15.059 were there? I don't know. I'll try to stop with 00:09:15.059 --> 00:09:16.720 just those questions. No, it was just this guy. 00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:18.980 He was on his own. So they have tracked down. 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.000 They know his name. They know he works for the 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:26.179 team in the backroom capacity. OK. There's credit 00:09:26.179 --> 00:09:28.919 card receipts that shows that he was at the hotel 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:34.059 during this time. And there's hints or allegations 00:09:34.059 --> 00:09:37.879 that they might have done this at other teams 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:42.279 prior to this match. Now this season, this season. 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:47.419 Now remember, in December, in December, Southampton 00:09:47.419 --> 00:09:51.379 was not in the top half of the table. No, they 00:09:51.379 --> 00:09:55.610 went on a 19 match. streak where they did not 00:09:55.610 --> 00:09:58.250 lose a match for 19 matches. So they either won 00:09:58.250 --> 00:10:01.429 or draw 19 matches in a row to get them up into 00:10:01.429 --> 00:10:03.549 the playoff positions. And remember, we thought 00:10:03.549 --> 00:10:05.590 they might even have made it all the way to automatic 00:10:05.590 --> 00:10:08.350 promotion if they kept playing the way they played. 00:10:09.409 --> 00:10:13.929 And so the question is, one, was this a member 00:10:13.929 --> 00:10:16.309 of the staff acting on their own and not with 00:10:16.309 --> 00:10:20.409 the That was my next question the team or or 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:22.590 at the request of at the request of the team 00:10:22.590 --> 00:10:26.850 and had they done this to other people and So 00:10:26.850 --> 00:10:29.809 so there's a hearing that they've gathered evidence 00:10:29.809 --> 00:10:32.090 and there's a hearing tomorrow, which is the 00:10:32.090 --> 00:10:35.230 19th of May Now the final is scheduled for Saturday 00:10:35.230 --> 00:10:37.929 the 23rd it they have started selling tickets 00:10:37.929 --> 00:10:40.970 They said they're going ahead with the contingency 00:10:40.970 --> 00:10:44.190 that that might change is what they said now 00:10:44.190 --> 00:10:48.529 the what might change is Would it be the team 00:10:48.529 --> 00:10:51.690 playing? Because Middlesbrough is asking for 00:10:51.690 --> 00:10:54.789 Southampton to be excluded from the finals and 00:10:54.789 --> 00:10:58.789 to take their place. So I mean, obviously, if 00:10:58.789 --> 00:11:01.470 they were to ask for that. So they're still in 00:11:01.470 --> 00:11:05.769 training. Oh, on the contingency that they might 00:11:05.769 --> 00:11:09.070 still. OK, so I imagine that this person's phone 00:11:09.070 --> 00:11:11.610 has been confiscated, although I believe phone 00:11:11.610 --> 00:11:15.539 records, a smart, a smart person that like. actually 00:11:15.539 --> 00:11:18.299 hides behind a tree might have deleted such videos. 00:11:18.779 --> 00:11:21.480 That's actually not nice. I do not want to judge 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:26.120 someone's level of smartness based on a photo. 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.639 A savvy person, a savvy person. I'm just like 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:34.379 if it had happened before, was it the same person? 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.700 Do other videos exist? Is there any link between, 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:42.610 you know, a message of? Oh, you're going to go 00:11:42.610 --> 00:11:46.450 to the golf course, eh? I don't know why I was 00:11:46.450 --> 00:11:51.129 Canadian in that question, but. And apparently 00:11:51.129 --> 00:11:53.970 after the second semifinal match with Southampton 00:11:53.970 --> 00:11:57.230 did win, they they won pretty significantly in 00:11:57.230 --> 00:12:00.490 that match. They asked the coach, the manager 00:12:00.490 --> 00:12:04.149 about the investigation and he. They who like 00:12:04.149 --> 00:12:06.529 reporters did reporters during the post -match 00:12:06.529 --> 00:12:08.970 interview, and he promptly ended the interview 00:12:08.970 --> 00:12:14.039 and walked out. I refuse to talk about it. We'll 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.179 be having none of that. Thank you very much. 00:12:16.460 --> 00:12:18.840 None of that. So the team is saying that they've 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.759 cooperated and they look forward to the results 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.039 there. I think their argument. I mean, you can't 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.779 say anything else. I think the argument was you 00:12:27.779 --> 00:12:30.620 really can't acting on his own. They floated 00:12:30.620 --> 00:12:35.019 whether it's I mean, if they didn't get disqualified 00:12:35.019 --> 00:12:38.279 from the finals, then potentially it could be 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.120 a points fine. or a dollar fine. Interestingly, 00:12:42.620 --> 00:12:45.480 a points fine, if they won the finals and get 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.960 promoted to the Premier League, the points fine 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.419 may not take effect until they would return to 00:12:52.419 --> 00:12:54.600 the EFL because the Premier League is separate 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.360 from the EFL. Right, right. OK. Or, you know, 00:12:58.419 --> 00:13:00.440 so. Oh, my gosh. And then the question I just 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.659 want, I'm just dying to know, did they do this 00:13:02.659 --> 00:13:05.500 to other teams? Because remember that match, 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.919 think about our match with them. We were stunned 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:14.440 at how they came at us because the argument is 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.440 if you watch the training on a Thursday for a 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.120 Saturday match, they know the lineups. They know, 00:13:21.179 --> 00:13:23.539 and remember, we didn't field our normal lineup. 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.679 We kind of shifted things around for Southampton. 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:30.450 And if they knew that, maybe they came in and 00:13:30.450 --> 00:13:33.590 scored five goals off of us. Oh, my gosh. They 00:13:33.590 --> 00:13:36.009 knew exactly what to do. Now, that's big conspiracy 00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:38.409 theory. I admit we could put little trailers. 00:13:38.490 --> 00:13:40.629 There's there's quite a bit of speculation there. 00:13:40.629 --> 00:13:42.350 It's a lot of speculation. It makes you wonder. 00:13:42.669 --> 00:13:45.330 And maybe that wasn't maybe we just had a really 00:13:45.330 --> 00:13:50.210 bad day. Maybe we did, but. Yeah, maybe we don't 00:13:50.210 --> 00:13:52.629 have any really big trees that are close to the 00:13:52.629 --> 00:13:55.460 training field. Yeah, and a lot of these training 00:13:55.460 --> 00:13:57.679 fields are not they're not like they're not like 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.720 NFL fields in the US. We've actually never seen 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.080 the training grounds. No, we have not. But you 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:07.100 and you and I, I don't mean like we as fans. 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.799 I think it's relatively open as well, too. It's 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.259 just I think it's just, you know, I mean, you 00:14:12.259 --> 00:14:14.419 think about the stadium and it's you know, it's 00:14:14.419 --> 00:14:18.799 closed basically. Right. But you're not. Yeah. 00:14:19.659 --> 00:14:23.929 Yeah. So so so so we will we will update next 00:14:23.929 --> 00:14:28.129 time we talk Okay, and now I'm as soon as we 00:14:28.129 --> 00:14:30.970 finish this and tomorrow I'm gonna be reading 00:14:30.970 --> 00:14:36.049 as much as I can because I am Fascinated I knew 00:14:36.049 --> 00:14:38.909 you would be and it's funny because you see on 00:14:38.909 --> 00:14:41.909 social media like the Southampton supporters 00:14:42.590 --> 00:14:44.470 Just saying, hey, he's just a college intern. 00:14:44.549 --> 00:14:47.590 He doesn't even work for the team. He's and they're 00:14:47.590 --> 00:14:49.730 like, but he was in the training ground after 00:14:49.730 --> 00:14:54.830 the. But also, honestly, like. Look, if I were 00:14:54.830 --> 00:14:58.330 a team and I wanted to spy on another team, I'm 00:14:58.330 --> 00:15:01.250 not going to get the manager or the assistant 00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:03.929 manager to go. I'm going to get somebody that 00:15:03.929 --> 00:15:06.590 maybe people don't know that they're associated. 00:15:06.990 --> 00:15:09.850 Maybe people just think I'm going to go for a 00:15:09.850 --> 00:15:13.330 game of golf, you know? Maybe they do. Clearly, 00:15:13.370 --> 00:15:17.250 that would be the person that you would ask to 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:20.529 do that. And because I mean, I don't know about 00:15:20.529 --> 00:15:22.830 internships in the UK, but certainly if it were 00:15:22.830 --> 00:15:25.289 in the US, an intern would be the most eager 00:15:25.289 --> 00:15:28.210 person to do whatever it is. Oh, absolutely. 00:15:28.570 --> 00:15:31.830 No questions asked. No questions asked. So we 00:15:31.830 --> 00:15:34.809 will have so much to say and ask about this, 00:15:34.830 --> 00:15:37.570 but I'll pause for now so that we can talk about 00:15:37.570 --> 00:15:41.250 other things. Yeah, but I am glad you're as excited 00:15:41.250 --> 00:15:44.649 by this as I am. And not excited because I'm 00:15:44.649 --> 00:15:47.809 not happy it happened, but I'm just so fascinated 00:15:47.809 --> 00:15:51.370 by this. And the fact that, I mean, we both kind 00:15:51.370 --> 00:15:54.389 of hinted at this last time we talked. We're 00:15:54.389 --> 00:15:57.309 following the team and the sport in general in 00:15:57.309 --> 00:16:00.350 such a different way. from how we used to follow, 00:16:00.590 --> 00:16:03.009 even though we've been fans for five years, we 00:16:03.009 --> 00:16:05.110 weren't following with this level of attention 00:16:05.110 --> 00:16:07.750 and detail since we started the podcast. And 00:16:07.750 --> 00:16:09.929 so I think it just makes our experience even 00:16:09.929 --> 00:16:13.350 more interesting by seeing these other pieces 00:16:13.350 --> 00:16:15.990 that come along with it. Yeah, that's true. But 00:16:15.990 --> 00:16:18.309 like this kind of drama, how can you not follow? 00:16:18.789 --> 00:16:21.870 I know. And you give it a catchy name like Spygate. 00:16:21.870 --> 00:16:24.840 I mean, you know, we're We're all over it. So 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:26.899 you have no choice there will be a documentary 00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:29.200 on YouTube in ten years about this whole thing 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:36.080 I'm sure yeah or next year So I just wanted to 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:40.279 so seasons over So I just wanted to do a little 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:44.639 stats quiz ish With ooh. All right. I'm ready 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.200 to get them all wrong And I would have gotten 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.980 a lot of these wrong as well, too. So I'll put 00:16:50.980 --> 00:16:55.419 that up front. So we played 53 matches this season, 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:00.159 which is including the non league matches, the 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:02.980 EFL Cup and the FA Cup matches. So 53 matches. 00:17:03.179 --> 00:17:06.599 So that's seven cup matches and 46 regular matches. 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:12.019 Wow. Top three who made the most appearances 00:17:12.019 --> 00:17:20.009 on the field. Oh, OK. Max. OK, you're not going 00:17:20.009 --> 00:17:22.049 to answer me as I go. I have to get all three. 00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:24.549 I have to give a list first. Give me three. Give 00:17:24.549 --> 00:17:28.990 me three names. Oh, OK. No, no, no, that's fine. 00:17:29.009 --> 00:17:33.349 That's fine. I'll get my list. OK, I think Max, 00:17:34.269 --> 00:17:41.470 I think. I would have said Arthur, but tear, 00:17:41.589 --> 00:17:46.799 maybe not. I was going to say maybe. Callum Doyle. 00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:49.839 Let me give, let me give those three and you 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.539 tell me that I only got one of them right. Okay. 00:17:53.220 --> 00:17:56.299 So tied for second most appearances across all 00:17:56.299 --> 00:18:00.940 competitions at 46. We have George Dobson and 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:04.359 Joshua Dess. I almost said George Dobson, but 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.400 then like the wrist break, but then he came right 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.500 back. Okay. Okay. And the most appears and the 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:12.400 most appearances. This isn't the most minutes, 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:18.960 the most appearance. Right. with 47, drum roll, 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:24.079 Sam Smith. I got zero correct. You got zero, 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:28.400 but I was shocked. Wow. He has the largest number 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:32.200 of appearances. And I had kind of forgotten that 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:36.039 I think he was named in the squad every single 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:39.220 one of the 53 matches, because he never had an 00:18:39.220 --> 00:18:42.799 injury this season. He started off. Remember, 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:46.140 he started off by playing a minute here. Two 00:18:46.140 --> 00:18:49.579 minutes here. Yeah, yeah. And then we got into 00:18:49.579 --> 00:18:53.019 that window in December when when Kiefer got 00:18:53.019 --> 00:18:55.579 injured and then and then we needed to have some 00:18:55.579 --> 00:18:58.880 shakeups and Sam took over and and then he ended 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:00.859 up ending the season and there were times when 00:19:00.859 --> 00:19:02.920 Kiefer didn't even come on at the end of the 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.140 season. So, I mean, it's it's just interesting 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:08.619 that someone who we might have dismissed at the 00:19:08.619 --> 00:19:10.920 beginning of the season with all these new signings. 00:19:11.740 --> 00:19:14.880 ended up being the player who was on the field 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.339 the most number of times. Yeah, yeah. We had 00:19:17.339 --> 00:19:19.400 said, like, oh, what's going to happen with Sam 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.980 Smith and Jay Rodriguez? And we've heard the 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:25.079 latest news about Jay Rodriguez that he was released 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.460 from the team. And then it's not a surprise, 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.019 which is not a surprise. Most appearances. Yeah. 00:19:30.900 --> 00:19:33.440 And so I think if anyone's questioning, like, 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:35.619 does Sam Smith have a longevity with this team 00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:38.460 after this season? I would say absolutely. Yeah, 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.759 especially how the season finished because of 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:43.400 the way it just sort of the way that his trajectory 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:47.079 went is that he just kept showing up and had 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.480 the opportunity as well. And, you know, would 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.319 we be having a different conversation if Kiefer 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.700 Moore hadn't gotten injured? Maybe maybe this 00:19:54.700 --> 00:19:57.059 would be absolutely conversation. Yeah. But I 00:19:57.059 --> 00:19:59.339 think the world of sport is a lot of what if 00:19:59.339 --> 00:20:01.680 because you have injuries, because you have, 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.019 yeah, things. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Outside 00:20:04.019 --> 00:20:07.299 of your control, so. Right. OK, so tied closely 00:20:07.299 --> 00:20:11.200 to this is so goals scored. So we already know. 00:20:11.259 --> 00:20:13.599 OK. We know number one because we talked about 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:17.500 that. So Josh Windos. Exactly. Josh Windos. So. 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.000 I would think. I think I think he for more got 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.539 double digits. Yeah, so he had 13 goals. OK, 00:20:26.019 --> 00:20:28.160 is he second? He's in second. He's in second. 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.220 OK. And then I have third, which is a tie in 00:20:32.220 --> 00:20:35.470 fourth. So I have three more names. I've got 00:20:35.470 --> 00:20:37.089 to come up with well You don't have to come up 00:20:37.089 --> 00:20:39.309 with all three. I just just why won't come up 00:20:39.309 --> 00:20:43.069 with any so oh You know, you know one of them 00:20:43.069 --> 00:20:45.609 one of them is easy. I mean we were just talking 00:20:45.609 --> 00:20:47.990 about him I mean, I was gonna say maybe I mean 00:20:47.990 --> 00:20:50.690 did Sam Smith score. How many did he score? He 00:20:50.690 --> 00:20:53.950 scored nine. He scored nine. Oh, okay Okay, and 00:20:53.950 --> 00:20:56.269 see the tide or is he fourth? So he's tied for 00:20:56.269 --> 00:20:58.670 third with Nathan broadhead who also scored nine 00:20:58.670 --> 00:21:02.369 now it's interesting because like I felt and 00:21:02.369 --> 00:21:05.230 I wouldn't have I don't think we would have put 00:21:05.230 --> 00:21:09.410 him up there because we didn't see him as much 00:21:09.410 --> 00:21:12.690 as we expected to see him on the field. And remember, 00:21:12.849 --> 00:21:15.109 there was this whole period. He did. I don't 00:21:15.109 --> 00:21:17.390 have my chart in front of me. He started quite 00:21:17.390 --> 00:21:19.789 a number of times, actually. And remember, we 00:21:19.789 --> 00:21:22.670 were constantly having, we were kind of having 00:21:22.670 --> 00:21:25.210 the conversation of why aren't you starting both 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:27.869 Broadhead and Windass at the same time supporting. 00:21:28.809 --> 00:21:31.910 But he, I think he just was kind of the quietly 00:21:31.910 --> 00:21:37.440 there. Or broadhead and more. Yeah. And so it's 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.160 interesting to see that he got that many. And 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:41.740 I'd have to go back to see sort of how it fell 00:21:41.740 --> 00:21:46.220 out. But yeah, I think we expected him to be 00:21:46.220 --> 00:21:48.200 much more primary at the beginning of the season 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.319 when they signed that big contract to get him 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.680 in. But he also was away for the international 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.839 call ups a couple of times. And so it's interesting 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:59.039 to see. But I'm curious to see sort of how we 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.009 shift next season. because I think we got to 00:22:02.009 --> 00:22:04.410 a point at the end of the season where they're 00:22:04.410 --> 00:22:08.450 realizing that a Windass and Broadhead and like 00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:11.190 either Ollie or Lewis O 'Brien combination is 00:22:11.190 --> 00:22:14.589 a really important one for our team. So I'm curious 00:22:14.589 --> 00:22:20.109 to see that. You've got to have people that are 00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:22.849 great at scoring goals to score goals and win 00:22:22.849 --> 00:22:29.400 matches. Hold on. That's not your only way to 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.019 win matches, but yeah. In those positions. Well, 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:35.259 I mean, to win, you do need to have goals. We 00:22:35.259 --> 00:22:36.799 do need to score goals. We need to score goals. 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.039 They don't need to be by those positions. We've 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:43.240 had plenty of goals scored by defenders and midfielders 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.880 this season. But yeah. So I do want to give a 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.880 shout out. I say that in jest. I do want to give 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.220 a shout out to our fourth place, though. So Ollie 00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:55.089 Rathbone. So if you remember, he was tied for 00:22:55.089 --> 00:22:58.950 the most goals last season in League One. Elliott 00:22:58.950 --> 00:23:01.150 Lee ended up getting the award because Elliott 00:23:01.150 --> 00:23:04.470 Lee's goals were all in the league versus, I 00:23:04.470 --> 00:23:09.410 think, Olly Rathbone had one non -league goal 00:23:09.410 --> 00:23:11.450 that, you know, so he felt like he was robbed 00:23:11.450 --> 00:23:14.069 from that, apparently, according to Elliott Lee 00:23:14.069 --> 00:23:18.630 in the This is Rexxon podcast. But the interesting 00:23:18.630 --> 00:23:20.430 thing about Olly Rathbone got eight goals again 00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:24.009 this season. But that's notable more for the 00:23:24.009 --> 00:23:27.490 fact that he did not play before December 13th. 00:23:27.529 --> 00:23:31.289 He had half. And so he played half a season, 00:23:31.289 --> 00:23:36.190 but he appeared on the field in every match from 00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:40.910 the day he was first on the pitch. And he's probably 00:23:40.910 --> 00:23:43.980 the only one. I have to go back and check who 00:23:43.980 --> 00:23:47.400 actually played every one of those matches. So 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.500 and his impact and we've talked about this just 00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:53.319 came so quickly and his energy came back and 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:55.960 like it sort of reminded us what we loved about 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.160 him and still love about him. And so to see it 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.180 sort of shifting and then we can have the endless 00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:03.079 debate as to whether he comes on at the beginning 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.619 or the end. And I'm sure that it's not endless. 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.980 It's not endless. I think that everyone is on 00:24:12.980 --> 00:24:19.740 my side. We should put a poll. So we talked a 00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:21.680 little bit about, so they did put out the release 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.220 player list this week, which had no surprises 00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:28.019 on it. What surprised me was more just the things 00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:30.279 that aren't on the list that we will kind of 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.579 look for in the coming week. weeks as the transfer 00:24:32.579 --> 00:24:34.720 window starts to open. But we, I mean, fully 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.859 expected that Jayrod would not get a new contract 00:24:36.859 --> 00:24:39.880 beyond this year. I was actually surprised. I 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:41.900 mean, he had an injury. He injured his ankle 00:24:41.900 --> 00:24:44.660 last summer and had a surgery, I believe, or 00:24:44.660 --> 00:24:47.720 he was definitely injured. I was surprised when 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.680 he was put back into the squad in January, given 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.259 all the changes we had made. And I think he made 00:24:53.259 --> 00:24:56.380 six or seven appearances just a few minutes here 00:24:56.380 --> 00:24:59.220 and there. And really, you know, I think he fought 00:24:59.220 --> 00:25:02.039 his way back and he showed that, you know, I 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.259 mean, he had an incredible career before he came 00:25:04.259 --> 00:25:07.799 to Wrexham. I think that his time at Wrexham 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:12.460 will just be more of a footnote. But he seems 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:16.579 like a good guy who's very positive. And I think 00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:18.660 he's pretty much at the end of his career, anyways. 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.740 I think he's like 35 or 36 years old, as we talk 00:25:21.740 --> 00:25:26.559 about age. Oh, old man. Old man. And then Issa 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:29.839 Kabori, so his loan has ended. Now, this being 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.960 in this announcement is actually not a surprise. 00:25:32.339 --> 00:25:35.259 And it doesn't actually mean anything. So at 00:25:35.259 --> 00:25:36.960 the end of the one -year loans, you go back to 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.119 your home club. Now, that doesn't mean that the 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.539 club cannot then have conversations about either 00:25:43.539 --> 00:25:47.819 another loan or a contract. And so I think the 00:25:47.819 --> 00:25:51.200 question for him is more, is he what we need 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.400 in that position? And I think that's a huge question, 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:58.720 Mark. translates as well to has he done enough? 00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:01.200 Has he done enough? It's a similar question. 00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:04.259 And has he done enough consistently? Because 00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:07.640 I think the consistently is the word for him, 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:09.839 where remember at the beginning of the season, 00:26:09.980 --> 00:26:14.200 he came on on fire. You wrote a song about him, 00:26:14.619 --> 00:26:17.400 you know, and then he was injured and then and 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.819 then he came back and he was kind of hit or miss. 00:26:20.109 --> 00:26:22.710 in the middle of the season. And then this last 00:26:22.710 --> 00:26:25.410 couple of matches, he's been back on fire again. 00:26:25.910 --> 00:26:28.829 And so is it enough or do we need to look for 00:26:28.829 --> 00:26:32.009 someone more consistently? I mean, we barely 00:26:32.009 --> 00:26:35.670 ever saw him and Kakachi on the field at the 00:26:35.670 --> 00:26:38.910 same time doing the two wingback. We also didn't 00:26:38.910 --> 00:26:42.349 often see Kakachi on the field in general. Yeah. 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.380 And so so it's like, we don't know how that would 00:26:45.380 --> 00:26:47.119 have worked. You know, instead, we had George 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.160 Thompson playing on the wingback who did a wonderful 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.440 job, even though that's fantastic, fantastic 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.579 season when that's not his position. He is a 00:26:55.579 --> 00:27:00.460 center fielder. And we had, you know, we had. 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.240 And we had Ryan Longman still filling in for 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.539 when Kaibori wasn't playing and he's done very 00:27:05.539 --> 00:27:08.140 well as well, too. I think that's just the question 00:27:08.140 --> 00:27:11.390 of like. That's I think that's viewed as one 00:27:11.390 --> 00:27:14.150 of the weaker positions That we need to strengthen 00:27:14.150 --> 00:27:16.910 next season to kind of make that push to get 00:27:16.910 --> 00:27:19.210 not just to the playoffs because I think Playoffs 00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:21.650 is easily in reach. It's just but if we want 00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:25.890 to aim for even the automatics Dave You're not 00:27:25.890 --> 00:27:29.430 supposed to say those things out loud Well, we're 00:27:29.430 --> 00:27:31.230 just going for it. I'm just gonna be a sense, 00:27:31.250 --> 00:27:33.509 you know, yeah, and there's eight teams It goes 00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:36.380 down to eighth position next year. So It's not 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:38.079 a cinch. Nothing's a cinch, especially since 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.940 he's already gotten to seventh. Come on. We're 00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:41.980 still waiting to hear who's coming down from 00:27:41.980 --> 00:27:44.420 the premiere. Exactly. So, I mean, it's it's 00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:47.240 potential that even it could be Nottingham Forest. 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:49.740 No, I think they're safe now. I think they're 00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:54.339 safe. Are they? Yeah. But I looked at the point 00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:58.319 that other teams did as well. OK. Rat Tottenham 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:00.799 and West Ham are sort of neck and neck for that 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.849 third position. And either one of those would 00:28:03.849 --> 00:28:07.769 be just a huge thing to have come into the championship. 00:28:07.769 --> 00:28:11.089 Yeah. The big old 60 ,000 seat stadiums in London. 00:28:11.390 --> 00:28:15.349 I mean, that would be. Crazy and fun to go to. 00:28:15.349 --> 00:28:19.410 Totally fine. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But as part 00:28:19.410 --> 00:28:22.670 of this whole. And pack the away section. Yes, 00:28:22.789 --> 00:28:25.410 pack it. Pack it. We'll all fly in from the US 00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:27.589 and Switzerland and everywhere else around the 00:28:27.589 --> 00:28:31.380 world to watch that one. Yeah. Done. Yes. But 00:28:31.380 --> 00:28:33.519 in terms of the returning from loan, so we saw 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.319 for at least four players that we had loaned 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.500 out that are now back with the team, back with 00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:42.539 the team, none of whom I think we can expect 00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:46.539 to see again. So Paul Mullen back from his, he 00:28:46.539 --> 00:28:49.160 had two loan spells, neither one of which did 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.640 particularly great. I think he's still just, 00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:55.279 his injury, his back surgery really threw him 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.380 off and didn't really come back from that. So 00:28:58.380 --> 00:29:01.359 hopefully he'll get it out. Either they'll release 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.660 him or there'll be another loan spell out. Elliot 00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:08.980 Lee, who I think, had he not had his knee surgery, 00:29:10.740 --> 00:29:12.779 the conversation about Elliot Lee could have 00:29:12.779 --> 00:29:15.380 potentially been very different. I mean, he played 00:29:15.380 --> 00:29:17.779 at the beginning of the season and he could have 00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:21.460 made his way, I think, into the squad. Because 00:29:21.460 --> 00:29:23.480 remember, at the beginning of the season, they 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.279 were questioning George Dobson because he had 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.500 never played at the championship level. and he 00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:30.480 has been one of the most consistent players that 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.099 we have had all season long. So had Elliot not 00:29:34.099 --> 00:29:36.819 been injured, had not had his surgery, not been 00:29:36.819 --> 00:29:39.759 away during all the changes, who knows what would 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.539 have happened. I think it was made clear from 00:29:42.539 --> 00:29:48.279 him that he knew he had to go, and he did well 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.319 at Doncaster. So it may be a chance for him there 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.480 next season. Or somewhere else. Or somewhere 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.009 else, yeah. And then Connor Cody and Ryan Hardy, 00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:02.829 who are two of our early signings, which interesting. 00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:05.109 It's interesting watching the documentary as 00:30:05.109 --> 00:30:07.730 you get into it, because we're reliving learning 00:30:07.730 --> 00:30:10.369 about these people again. And at that point, 00:30:10.450 --> 00:30:13.549 they don't know like we don't know. They don't 00:30:13.549 --> 00:30:15.829 know people watching that like these two big 00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:19.009 signs early on wouldn't be here come January. 00:30:19.470 --> 00:30:23.349 Yeah. But Connor Cody has done amazingly well 00:30:23.349 --> 00:30:26.039 at Charlton. It's become very popular. He actually 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.299 made it up to like even got the captain's armband 00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:30.940 in the final match of the season. So he did really 00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:33.000 well. And I saw an interview with he also play 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.539 like with a concussion or something. Oh, he was 00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:38.619 like head injury. And then, yeah, so he got kicked 00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:41.019 in the head at one game where they wrapped his 00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:43.980 head to stop. That's the picture I saw. And he 00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:46.559 continued and he kept playing. Yeah. Yeah. Then 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.000 there was a match later where he actually was 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.519 kicked in the head again and was He was carted 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.799 off the field to the hospital and had a concussion. 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.279 And so he was out for two matches because of 00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:02.119 that. And then he still came back. But he also 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.819 they put him in a different position than what 00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:06.759 was his normal position. So he was not playing 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.859 as a defender. He was more of a midfielder for 00:31:08.859 --> 00:31:12.500 Charlton and really gelled with the squad. And 00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:15.220 he's indicated that he's open and hoping to have 00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:17.920 a conversation about staying with them. And so 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.960 if that works out, I think that would be great. 00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:22.670 And another another. guy we really like that 00:31:22.670 --> 00:31:26.089 we can watch play. I think that's great. And 00:31:26.089 --> 00:31:30.569 then Reinhardt, we just saw that it just didn't 00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:34.690 fit as our team group. And we talked about that. 00:31:35.549 --> 00:31:38.890 So I'd be curious to know who else, if there's 00:31:38.890 --> 00:31:41.390 any other releases that happen, if there's other 00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:44.670 contract deals, other loans that happen. We can 00:31:44.670 --> 00:31:47.160 kind of follow that throughout the summer. See 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.980 how it goes. There will be news. Yeah. So I just 00:31:50.980 --> 00:31:54.920 wanted to ask you, so we've talked a lot about 00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:59.019 things. Like if you had to look back at the season 00:31:59.019 --> 00:32:02.140 as a whole, now that you had a little space and 00:32:02.140 --> 00:32:05.240 a little time, what would you say is sort of 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.420 your reflections and your thoughts of where we 00:32:08.420 --> 00:32:15.440 went and where we ended up? I think when I think 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.599 we started the season with a lot of apprehension, 00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:20.420 right? We had basically half of a new squad. 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.960 We were in this new division that we knew was 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.980 gonna be difficult. We didn't start glitteringly 00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:37.119 well. And, you know, I think... I think we kind 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.500 of not that we were questioning but it was just 00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:42.119 man we're really feeling the intensity we're 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.680 really feeling the difficulty of this of this 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:49.259 new league and then things kind of started to 00:32:49.259 --> 00:32:52.180 to change pace at the end of the year right kind 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:55.059 of end of december and i feel like when you and 00:32:55.059 --> 00:32:57.579 i there when you and i were there in february 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.339 This five three victory over Ipswich town. I 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:04.759 feel like that was really our crowning glory 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:09.279 of the season I think that and QPR for me were 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:14.319 the two best matches that we played I think that 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.059 gave us so much momentum. I think that was when 00:33:17.059 --> 00:33:21.480 these kind of talks of playoff hopes and dreams 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.900 Like it was on the upswing and I think Chelsea 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.720 Is like, I think something happened there and 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.680 we played so phenomenally well for such a long 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:42.720 and brutal time. And it was just like something 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.259 after that, we weren't we just weren't able to 00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:49.220 get that spark back, you know, for whatever, 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.559 whatever it was, we still, you know, we were 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.799 still hanging on. We were still trying to like 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.170 cling in there. But yeah, that's I feel like 00:33:59.170 --> 00:34:03.170 didn't start great, had this like wave that we 00:34:03.170 --> 00:34:05.650 rode high through Ipswich town and then Chelsea 00:34:05.650 --> 00:34:10.909 kind of. Yeah, and I would agree with you. It's 00:34:10.909 --> 00:34:14.269 interesting in that between the QPR and the Ipswich 00:34:14.269 --> 00:34:18.210 is, I believe, when the Nottingham Forest match 00:34:18.210 --> 00:34:21.210 was. I think so, too. I think it was right in 00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:24.610 that window, because I think when I look at it. 00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:27.409 and kind of rewatching the documentaries, kind 00:34:27.409 --> 00:34:29.750 of helping me relive and reframe the timeline 00:34:29.750 --> 00:34:31.650 for everything, because I'm going back and looking 00:34:31.650 --> 00:34:35.829 at things from a different perspective. We spent 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:37.849 the first half of the season up through December, 00:34:38.289 --> 00:34:41.250 just kind of, and I'd say Swansea was sort of 00:34:41.250 --> 00:34:45.530 the end of the December frame that I'm looking 00:34:45.530 --> 00:34:49.349 at, where we were just, we were doing okay. We 00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.590 were doing okay. We were competing. We were making 00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:54.769 it. We were getting ties. We were we weren't 00:34:54.769 --> 00:34:57.210 losing badly. We were we were kind of coming 00:34:57.210 --> 00:34:58.829 together as a team. We're seeing where it could 00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:02.429 go. The Swansea match kind of knocked our confidence 00:35:02.429 --> 00:35:06.889 a bit. Right. But then we came back at Christmas 00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:09.909 and from Christmas all the way to Chelsea. It 00:35:09.909 --> 00:35:13.530 was like on fire. Not that we wanted unstoppable. 00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:15.789 We felt unstoppable. And that's what we went. 00:35:16.030 --> 00:35:19.980 We went from middle, lower middle of the table, 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.199 safe from relegation. We weren't in the top 12 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.079 in December or January. And then we kind of found 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.440 ourselves up until we got into that comfortable 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.039 sixth place and we stayed there for a week after 00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:36.940 week after week. And I think we just assumed 00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.599 we, I don't know, assumed, but we just felt so 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.780 comfortable with how well we were playing that 00:35:41.780 --> 00:35:44.139 we just kept going. And we were like, okay, we're 00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:45.619 going to end up here. We're going to end up at 00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:49.059 least here. And, and so to not make the playoffs, 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:50.639 but I think, I think you're right. It's like 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.239 the Chelsea match, the deflation that came after 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.320 that and the way we played for a couple of matches 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.440 after the Chelsea match, it's like the confidence 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.559 was not sort of the wind had gone from the sails 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.420 and it took a while to get it back. And I do 00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:13.199 feel like we got it back to some extent at moments. 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.940 Yeah. You know, I think even when we talked about 00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:19.300 our last match of the season, we played well. 00:36:19.860 --> 00:36:22.179 We played very well in that last match. We just 00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:26.000 didn't do enough. And or the other teams that 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.659 weren't even playing us did more. Right. And 00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:30.739 so just a little bit more when it came down to 00:36:30.739 --> 00:36:33.659 stats, not down to how well we played. But I 00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:35.800 think it does set us up really well for next 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.440 season. And, you know, we've got a really good 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.239 core. of players that, when we look at the lineups, 00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:46.099 we think, I'm comfortable with these people starting, 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.920 I'm comfortable with these people being on the 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.599 bench. There's still some question marks, right? 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.860 Like, will we finally get to see Libby Cacacce 00:36:53.860 --> 00:36:56.559 play to his potential, like he did in Italy? 00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:01.800 Hopefully. Play. He'll play. What about these 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:03.760 new signings that we brought in in January? So 00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.059 I mean, Zach Viner did have some significant 00:37:06.059 --> 00:37:08.420 time, but then he injured himself and he wasn't 00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:10.860 playing in his normal defensive position. And 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:14.300 we've talked about this a lot. I mean, defense. 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.199 Really, I think the last couple of weeks, it 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.380 came down to our lack of defense is what prevented 00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:23.420 us from going to the playoffs. It's not, it wasn't 00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:26.300 our lack of attack. It wasn't our lack of strength 00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:28.239 in the midfield. It was really the defense that 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.230 kind of let us down. And so. getting him back 00:37:31.230 --> 00:37:33.190 in there. Will that help shifting things around? 00:37:33.469 --> 00:37:35.750 I'm not sure, you know, because we have very 00:37:35.750 --> 00:37:38.030 good individual players. It's just a matter of 00:37:38.030 --> 00:37:41.289 how it all works together. And then the goalie 00:37:41.289 --> 00:37:44.210 issue, which who knows what's going to happen 00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:46.670 there. We I don't know. We are. We already talked 00:37:46.670 --> 00:37:48.210 about that one last week, so we don't need to 00:37:48.210 --> 00:37:50.829 go into that again. But I think we are set up 00:37:50.829 --> 00:37:53.630 well for next season. And I'd say the biggest 00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:55.550 thing that's working to our advantage for next 00:37:55.550 --> 00:37:57.690 season is at least we don't have to spend every 00:37:57.690 --> 00:38:02.900 week talking about VAR. Exactly. We can save 00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:08.860 that for another another year. Right. Yes. Absolutely. 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.059 I'm looking forward to not having that as as 00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:17.619 we have this year. We're also we have the benefit 00:38:17.619 --> 00:38:21.380 for the first time in a couple of seasons of 00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:24.280 having played the majority of the teams that 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.179 we will face next season. Right. We've been going 00:38:28.179 --> 00:38:32.150 up. Yeah. Yeah, so fast. And you don't have like 00:38:32.150 --> 00:38:35.289 you've not played them again because they didn't 00:38:35.289 --> 00:38:37.469 also advance. Right. I mean, we've gone up, up, 00:38:37.489 --> 00:38:41.429 up. And so I think now, you know, we're in this 00:38:41.429 --> 00:38:45.510 league that is still a very, very, very good 00:38:45.510 --> 00:38:50.349 league. We don't have to deal with VAR and we 00:38:50.349 --> 00:38:52.250 have the benefit that we've played almost all 00:38:52.250 --> 00:38:55.750 of these teams before. And so we have that experience. 00:38:55.750 --> 00:38:59.800 We know what we need. Right. And now we have 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.739 the summertime to figure out how can we get there 00:39:02.739 --> 00:39:05.519 either with the players that we have or bringing 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.280 in a couple of new ones. And I think it is a 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:12.059 couple. I don't think it's a large change. No, 00:39:12.059 --> 00:39:14.579 I don't think it's 13 at all. I've heard numbers 00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:19.199 and sort of the four to five range. And I don't 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.420 I'm just hoping that this core that we have come 00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:26.679 to really love watch play and. I hope that we 00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.599 get to keep that and that no one gets poached 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.300 away from us. That's another thing, you know. 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.960 Yeah. Yeah. Because it'd be like it's nice. I 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:35.360 mean, because we got so used to it. I hadn't 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.679 really thought about that. We got so used to 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.579 the consistency of some of our key players season 00:39:40.579 --> 00:39:42.880 after season as we made our way up through the 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:44.559 leagues. Yes, we brought in new players this 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.639 season, but we weren't losing players along the 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.000 way to that extent like we are this like we did 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:54.059 this year. And so so, yeah, just I want I could 00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:56.139 mention the name that I've heard. That's the 00:39:56.139 --> 00:40:00.420 threat that I can. I don't know if I. Callum 00:40:00.420 --> 00:40:05.039 Doyle is so young and so talented. That there 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.940 is worry now, there's not real. It's not real 00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:09.900 news, but there's worry that a Premier League 00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:12.599 team would come after him. Yeah, yeah, which 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.280 is I could see him playing in the Premier League 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.559 easily. I just hope he doesn't this year because 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.460 I still want to do it with the Wrexham in a couple 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:25.829 of years, man. Yes, he can. Just like just like 00:40:25.829 --> 00:40:29.130 Max can, right? You know, Max can get to the 00:40:29.130 --> 00:40:30.929 Premier League just by sticking with us, you 00:40:30.929 --> 00:40:35.230 know. Oh, man. OK, I think that'll be a conversation 00:40:35.230 --> 00:40:38.949 for another day. Yes. My head spinning too much. 00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.550 Your head is spinning too much. So just before 00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:46.670 we go on to. So the World Cup is coming up. Mm 00:40:46.670 --> 00:40:50.059 hmm. And I know there's. Controversial thing, 00:40:50.059 --> 00:40:52.019 but for the players themselves to get called 00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:55.039 up to the World Cup is a huge honor. And so, 00:40:55.059 --> 00:40:58.179 so far, Ludi Kakache has been called up for New 00:40:58.179 --> 00:41:01.559 Zealand. And so he will be playing in the squad 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:04.639 in New Zealand. So they are actually making their 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.659 debut in the World Cup against Iran in Los Angeles 00:41:08.659 --> 00:41:13.309 here in Los Angeles on June 15th. The choice 00:41:13.309 --> 00:41:15.449 of matches probably it's not going to be the 00:41:15.449 --> 00:41:17.989 greatest of environments given the political 00:41:17.989 --> 00:41:20.909 situation going on in the world And some of the 00:41:20.909 --> 00:41:23.369 players from Iran did not get issued visas so 00:41:23.369 --> 00:41:25.849 they're not able to come so it'll be an interesting 00:41:25.849 --> 00:41:30.289 thing but Good for Libby To get to play and then 00:41:30.289 --> 00:41:32.010 there are other matches. I believe are up. I 00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:34.769 hope he actually plays hope he actually plays 00:41:34.769 --> 00:41:39.030 I mean like he only he he did appear for us 12 00:41:39.030 --> 00:41:42.429 times according to my notes Uh, I just don't 00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:44.190 remember. That must have been much more earlier 00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:46.329 in the season and he got injured over and over 00:41:46.329 --> 00:41:49.130 and over again. And so I'd love to see what he 00:41:49.130 --> 00:41:51.489 can do and to be able to cheer him on. And then 00:41:51.489 --> 00:41:53.730 we're waiting to hear Scotland hasn't announced 00:41:53.730 --> 00:41:56.409 their call ups yet. They're doing that. They're 00:41:56.409 --> 00:41:59.570 doing that tomorrow, the 19th of May. Um, so 00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:01.869 it's fully expected that Dom Hyam will also get 00:42:01.869 --> 00:42:04.269 called up. So we will have two players potentially. 00:42:04.619 --> 00:42:08.079 uh making appearances in the world cup us canada 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:12.280 mexico um and i did not know this that the home 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:18.579 team gets paid for every day that their players 00:42:18.579 --> 00:42:21.300 who are called up are on the world cup squad 00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:26.460 and so when you say home team you mean like their 00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:29.800 club that has their club okay yes so rexam will 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:33.059 get paid for every appearance that they make 00:42:33.059 --> 00:42:36.900 in the World Cup match. And the potential, depending 00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:41.019 on how far they get, up to $250 ,000 per player. 00:42:42.099 --> 00:42:47.079 Wow. Yes. And so you can see the financial benefit 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.539 to a club to have a player called up. And imagine 00:42:50.539 --> 00:42:52.199 some of these clubs that get four or five players 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.289 called up. I mean, that's... Incredible. Yeah. 00:42:55.489 --> 00:42:57.829 So so all those outrageous tickets. Sorry, I'm 00:42:57.829 --> 00:43:02.289 just I'm just thinking of all of these like all 00:43:02.289 --> 00:43:06.489 of these situations where these things that would 00:43:06.489 --> 00:43:10.769 like benefit people go to the like the richest 00:43:10.769 --> 00:43:12.530 anyways. Right. So like the people that are going 00:43:12.530 --> 00:43:16.989 to have the most players on, you know, an international 00:43:16.989 --> 00:43:19.150 team, those are going to be the top level. Those 00:43:19.150 --> 00:43:21.090 are going to be your Premier League teams. Right. 00:43:21.530 --> 00:43:24.019 And they need. They need money like they need 00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:26.059 a hole in the head, right? Like they get money 00:43:26.059 --> 00:43:28.320 from being in if you go to Champions League, 00:43:28.380 --> 00:43:30.699 right? Like all of these things where you finish 00:43:30.699 --> 00:43:33.639 and better TV deals and everything else. But 00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.159 sorry, that's a that's a very different conversation. 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:39.960 One we're happy to have people are interested. 00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:42.659 If people are interested, we can study that. 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.539 Yeah, so so we have we have the World Cup to 00:43:46.539 --> 00:43:48.440 look forward to. And it's interesting. You mentioned 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.460 the thing you mentioned about so many of the 00:43:50.460 --> 00:43:52.360 players that are called up to the World Cup are 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.079 Premier League players. It's interesting because 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.800 our US tour is right after the completion of 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.840 the World Cup. It's I think it starts within 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:06.880 a week. Days, right? Yeah. Yeah. And there's 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.519 a question because it's uncertain at this point. 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:14.280 How many of the top top players? from Sunderland 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.239 Leeds or Liverpool will actually miss the matches 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.000 that we have. Because when we play two seasons 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.699 ago, we played Bournemouth and Chelsea in the 00:44:24.699 --> 00:44:28.539 preseason. Both Bournemouth and Chelsea played 00:44:28.539 --> 00:44:31.139 a large number of their starters against us, 00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:32.900 which we weren't expecting. We actually thought 00:44:32.900 --> 00:44:35.079 it would be more like a B squad or an under 19. 00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:37.780 And so they actually did field good teams and 00:44:37.780 --> 00:44:40.440 we drew against both of them. So I think this 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.380 will be depending on the level of sort of how 00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:45.619 our squad does over the summer and who misses 00:44:45.619 --> 00:44:47.619 those matches for them. It'll be interesting 00:44:47.619 --> 00:44:50.579 to see how we do in those matches because we 00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:53.400 know Parky takes them seriously. And this is 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.920 a good way to gauge our preparation for the season. 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.739 And since we showed what we can do against Nottingham 00:44:59.739 --> 00:45:02.199 Forest and Chelsea, this is just a chance to 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.099 further show sort of what this squad can do. 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.199 And we've got three teams from the Premier League 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.440 that we're going to face next season. Yes. In 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.800 addition to the ones that had just fallen down 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:17.300 this season. So yeah. The year before. Yes. And 00:45:17.300 --> 00:45:21.579 then just our last topic. I know we've gone extensive 00:45:21.579 --> 00:45:23.980 this week. The documentary started last week. 00:45:24.190 --> 00:45:27.969 Welcome to Rexxon is back. Oh, yeah. And so so 00:45:27.969 --> 00:45:30.730 we'll only talk about the first episode. OK, 00:45:30.809 --> 00:45:33.889 for the moment. Do you need a moment? You tissues? 00:45:34.170 --> 00:45:37.449 No, it's OK. I used quite a few during that. 00:45:37.929 --> 00:45:41.070 I was not. So it's funny, because, you know, 00:45:41.070 --> 00:45:43.710 you think about like, oh, it's back for the fifth 00:45:43.710 --> 00:45:46.110 season. What else can they tell us? What else? 00:45:46.389 --> 00:45:48.889 I was just going to say, you think like I know 00:45:48.889 --> 00:45:52.429 all the stories. You know all the stories. It's 00:45:52.429 --> 00:45:54.909 just going to be about the matches, but it's 00:45:54.909 --> 00:45:59.269 not. I would say that that first episode was 00:45:59.269 --> 00:46:03.789 just a beautiful piece of television, irregardless 00:46:03.789 --> 00:46:06.949 of the topic. Right. It was just one of the most 00:46:06.949 --> 00:46:09.829 well made, thoughtfully put together stories 00:46:09.829 --> 00:46:12.989 and human connection of human connection, which 00:46:12.989 --> 00:46:16.349 just happens to center around Rexam. And that's 00:46:16.349 --> 00:46:18.789 what I love about the show is that it just keeps 00:46:18.789 --> 00:46:21.329 showing these different layers. And, you know, 00:46:21.329 --> 00:46:22.869 we've seen some clients, it's like, OK, they 00:46:22.869 --> 00:46:24.909 could broaden their scope a little bit. But also 00:46:24.909 --> 00:46:27.650 the ones that they're choosing to tell, they're 00:46:27.650 --> 00:46:30.809 telling him such care. And the story, the Bailey 00:46:30.809 --> 00:46:35.559 story was just it probably was the most touching 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.880 one that I personally felt touched by. And I've 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.000 cried many times at this show. But just I think. 00:46:42.980 --> 00:46:45.440 Go ahead. No, go ahead. No, I just think the 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.840 way they did it and the extra level that they 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.280 gave to the story. Yeah, they went further because 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.960 if you think about it, I mean, he passed away 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.239 in 2023. Right. They could have told this story 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.170 sooner. But it wouldn't have been the full story, 00:46:59.570 --> 00:47:01.949 which is I think the part I appreciate is that 00:47:01.949 --> 00:47:04.869 they have the time now with three more seasons 00:47:04.869 --> 00:47:09.090 after this one even to sort of follow. See what 00:47:09.090 --> 00:47:11.389 stories emerge. Yeah. See what emerged. See how 00:47:11.389 --> 00:47:13.550 they go. When is the right time to tell them? 00:47:13.650 --> 00:47:16.730 Yeah. So you're going to. Yeah, I know. I was 00:47:16.730 --> 00:47:20.070 just going to say, I think that that is the heart 00:47:20.070 --> 00:47:24.250 of what brought us to the club and what has kept 00:47:24.250 --> 00:47:28.329 us. engaged and kept us as fans. Yeah, sure. 00:47:28.469 --> 00:47:31.570 It's the team and it's following the wins and 00:47:31.570 --> 00:47:36.150 losses and, you know, it's all of that. But at 00:47:36.150 --> 00:47:39.269 a more basic level, it is about human connection. 00:47:39.429 --> 00:47:41.909 It's about these human stories. It's about the 00:47:41.909 --> 00:47:44.650 stories that we saw through our screens of the 00:47:44.650 --> 00:47:47.250 people in the town, of the players on the squad, 00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:50.630 of how it has impacted people's lives. It's the 00:47:50.630 --> 00:47:53.239 people that we have met. That when we've gone 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.340 there that have now touched our lives that bring 00:47:56.340 --> 00:48:00.380 us joy um You know, it's it's all of this and 00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:02.579 and that's it's that human element. It's that 00:48:02.579 --> 00:48:07.820 human connection that has the most Powerful that 00:48:07.820 --> 00:48:10.380 has been the most powerful part for at least 00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.420 me becoming a rexam fan And I think I would say 00:48:13.420 --> 00:48:15.940 that for you as well. Oh, absolutely And what 00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:18.639 struck me is that like I mentioned at the beginning 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:23.289 so watching this season having done 37 episodes 00:48:23.289 --> 00:48:26.630 of the podcast leading up to it, and then re 00:48:26.630 --> 00:48:31.590 -watching and remembering these key moments from 00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:35.610 the early matches. So, like, did I remember that 00:48:35.610 --> 00:48:38.610 we first saw Louis O 'Brien's dance at the Southampton 00:48:38.610 --> 00:48:43.150 match? You know, his little... I did it. I loved 00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:48.179 seeing it. Did we always think that... Josh Windass 00:48:48.179 --> 00:48:51.019 just as cool and clinical as he makes these goals. 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.420 Yeah, probably. But it's nice to be remembered 00:48:53.420 --> 00:48:56.119 about that, you know. And and so like balancing 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.159 these stories with just getting to know these 00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.340 people again that we've already come to get to 00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:04.400 know. I'm really enjoying it. And I look forward 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.340 to sort of how we're going to develop over the 00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:09.900 next few weeks, because I mean, the season was 00:49:09.900 --> 00:49:14.519 scripted in a way that you couldn't write. Yeah. 00:49:14.900 --> 00:49:20.079 And but but also The documentary has a duty, 00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:22.659 not really, but I can imagine that a part of 00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:25.159 it is also going to be you have these 13 new 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:31.860 players. Well, 14, 15, 16, 16 new players that 00:49:31.860 --> 00:49:34.639 need to be introduced. Right. And while saying 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.670 goodbye to other people, which. Each and bringing 00:49:38.670 --> 00:49:41.250 in these other stories that are actually not 00:49:41.250 --> 00:49:43.489 related to those people. Right. Right. They have 00:49:43.489 --> 00:49:47.929 a lot that they that they need to do just to 00:49:47.929 --> 00:49:52.309 tell this to tell this story. So. Yeah. So as 00:49:52.309 --> 00:49:55.130 you as you get in, I won't spoil anything. But 00:49:55.130 --> 00:49:58.329 as you get to the second episode, I will just 00:49:58.329 --> 00:50:00.510 say that I might have met my favorite person 00:50:00.510 --> 00:50:03.869 in all of Rexam. And that is Trina, the cleaning 00:50:03.869 --> 00:50:08.519 lady. Who has me? OK, I've already I've already 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.840 seen part of a conversation around this. And 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.420 so I can't wait. She has maybe she has maybe 00:50:15.420 --> 00:50:18.380 two minutes of airtime out of a 42 minute episode. 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:24.099 And yet I want her back. I just want to leave 00:50:24.099 --> 00:50:26.659 it there and anyone else can go and watch episode 00:50:26.659 --> 00:50:29.619 two of Welcome Brexit. Now streaming and let 00:50:29.619 --> 00:50:33.199 us know what you think. Yes, because apparently 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:39.389 my. My joy of watching her was not alone. Sure. 00:50:39.809 --> 00:50:43.150 Our friends from Wrexham who watched also loved 00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:46.389 her as well. Okay, well, I can't wait to meet 00:50:46.389 --> 00:50:49.510 her. Yes, you will meet her. You will meet her. 00:50:49.869 --> 00:50:54.849 So I am very excited for what's next. Because 00:50:54.849 --> 00:50:58.150 like you mentioned, we have a lot coming. We 00:50:58.150 --> 00:51:02.510 have transfer window. But more importantly, in 00:51:02.510 --> 00:51:07.010 one week, I will be in Switzerland to see you. 00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:12.369 You will be with producer Eric and I'm going 00:51:12.369 --> 00:51:16.829 to try to bribe him somehow to get him to join 00:51:16.829 --> 00:51:23.250 us on the next episode. Okay. All right. I think 00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:25.289 I think it might be you. I think it might be 00:51:25.289 --> 00:51:26.929 you who needs to bribe him. Actually, you probably 00:51:26.929 --> 00:51:29.690 have more sway than I do. But OK, that's fine. 00:51:30.010 --> 00:51:33.190 I'll come up with something even if it's even 00:51:33.190 --> 00:51:37.389 if it's really like 30 seconds. Yeah, we will 00:51:37.389 --> 00:51:40.750 figure out a way. We will figure out a way. We 00:51:40.750 --> 00:51:44.769 do montage of your time here. That becomes the 00:51:44.769 --> 00:51:49.670 intro to the next episode. Yes. Anyways. And 00:51:49.670 --> 00:51:53.230 until then, forward to. Yes, and I did I did 00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:56.449 book I'm going to watch the championship final. 00:51:56.449 --> 00:52:00.550 Should it happen on Saturday the 23rd at the 00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:03.949 Cosmodome? So so I will I will let you know how 00:52:03.949 --> 00:52:08.150 that is. I cannot wait to see what is the result. 00:52:08.309 --> 00:52:11.050 You said the hearing Tuesday like the result 00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:13.570 will be on Tuesday or the hearing is on Tuesday. 00:52:13.730 --> 00:52:16.730 They they expect to announce the results like 00:52:16.730 --> 00:52:19.730 almost immediate because there's Saturday is. 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.739 coming i know people need to it's just right 00:52:23.739 --> 00:52:26.739 there they need to get to london you know yeah 00:52:26.739 --> 00:52:29.300 okay okay all right well we will definitely be 00:52:29.300 --> 00:52:31.619 on the lookout for that okay we'll see you soon 00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:34.420 see you soon okay well that's all we have time 00:52:34.420 --> 00:52:37.139 for thanks for joining us this week please like 00:52:37.139 --> 00:52:40.679 comment and subscribe You can also email us at 00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:44.360 wxmcoffeematchup at gmail .com. 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