WEBVTT 00:00:00.810 --> 00:00:32.740 Hey, are you listening Hey, are you listening? 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.960 This is a podcast exploring the past present 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.259 and future of Christian music My name is Joel 00:00:39.259 --> 00:00:42.640 and I'm here with my good friend Brandon We connected 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:46.280 over a love of some mutual particular artists 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.399 But we have kind of different tastes as well. 00:00:49.420 --> 00:00:51.380 And so we get to experience some new stuff from 00:00:51.380 --> 00:00:54.109 each other while sharing and love for things 00:00:54.109 --> 00:00:57.109 that we have in common. And sometimes we invite 00:00:57.109 --> 00:01:00.049 some people along for the ride. So it's exciting 00:01:00.049 --> 00:01:01.950 to be here. Brandon, how are you doing today? 00:01:02.270 --> 00:01:06.909 I'm doing great. Awesome. I'm glad you're doing 00:01:06.909 --> 00:01:10.790 well. It is it's it's a Monday. We record these 00:01:10.790 --> 00:01:12.569 episodes on Monday. I don't know if we've talked 00:01:12.569 --> 00:01:17.969 about that before. Do you feel like for you recording 00:01:17.969 --> 00:01:21.450 these episodes on Monday afternoon? like changes 00:01:21.450 --> 00:01:26.250 your monday in any like significant way i i think 00:01:26.250 --> 00:01:28.590 it does there's a lot of music on the weekend 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:32.930 like binging it so i feel like that's nice um 00:01:32.930 --> 00:01:35.269 because it it depends on the artist but i am 00:01:35.269 --> 00:01:39.000 someone that i've always enjoyed getting to Will 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.620 sit down and look through the lyrics. So I feel 00:01:41.620 --> 00:01:43.680 like if I do that during the weekend I get time 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:46.060 but if it's during the week, there's a lot of 00:01:46.060 --> 00:01:48.840 listening like primarily if it's like in the 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.579 car, but you also have Podcast you're trying 00:01:51.579 --> 00:01:53.579 to catch up on so I feel like it gives a nice 00:01:53.579 --> 00:01:56.140 The weekends are for the music and the weeks 00:01:56.140 --> 00:02:00.459 for the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I get that um mondays 00:02:00.459 --> 00:02:02.540 I know for a lot of people mondays are like, 00:02:02.540 --> 00:02:08.030 uh, it's monday but um, I actually really like 00:02:08.030 --> 00:02:11.969 Mondays. Mondays around here, we have like our 00:02:11.969 --> 00:02:14.310 staff meetings at our church and they're super 00:02:14.310 --> 00:02:16.310 fun days just to get to hang out with everybody 00:02:16.310 --> 00:02:18.830 and everything. So for me, it's just a good cap 00:02:18.830 --> 00:02:21.449 at the end of the day. And I'm with you that 00:02:21.449 --> 00:02:24.530 the weekend gives me space to like prepare, which 00:02:24.530 --> 00:02:27.610 is, which is helpful. So that's good. So today 00:02:27.610 --> 00:02:29.770 we're going to do something a little different. 00:02:30.330 --> 00:02:32.650 But before we get kind of into that, let's talk 00:02:32.650 --> 00:02:40.520 a little bit about what's in the news. So I don't 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.659 know if you really caught this Brandon I saw 00:02:43.659 --> 00:02:47.060 this on social media this past week, but do you 00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:51.099 know the actor Oscar Isaac? I've heard the name. 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:56.120 Yes, so he's in Like the Disney Star Wars trilogy. 00:02:56.300 --> 00:03:01.240 Okay, he's Poe and He's also like Moon Knight 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.759 in the Marvel world and like some other stuff. 00:03:03.900 --> 00:03:06.080 He's been in a lot of a lot of different things 00:03:06.490 --> 00:03:12.030 So in 2000, in the early 2000s, Oscar Isaac fronted 00:03:12.030 --> 00:03:16.050 a Christian ska band and they're called the blinking 00:03:16.050 --> 00:03:19.310 underdogs. And they're actually pretty good. 00:03:20.189 --> 00:03:23.490 Um, I have so many questions about this. I found 00:03:23.490 --> 00:03:26.590 a clip, um, that people were sharing online and 00:03:26.590 --> 00:03:28.669 I'm just like, this is one of the coolest things. 00:03:28.870 --> 00:03:32.409 I mean, it's like him up there singing. um songs 00:03:32.409 --> 00:03:35.629 about Jesus and I'm like this just opens up the 00:03:35.629 --> 00:03:38.569 world for me like I we need to have Oscar Isaac 00:03:38.569 --> 00:03:42.930 on the podcast I'm sure he's listening I've got 00:03:42.930 --> 00:03:49.349 questions so maybe I don't even know how um we 00:03:49.349 --> 00:03:51.889 we need like a a series of people that can help 00:03:51.889 --> 00:03:54.349 connect us to Oscar so that uh we can we can 00:03:54.349 --> 00:03:56.669 get him on the pod I feel like it's always interesting 00:03:56.669 --> 00:04:02.060 when you see like random actors who like you 00:04:02.060 --> 00:04:04.080 know, you'll have a story where it's like, oh, 00:04:04.099 --> 00:04:05.879 the faith is really big part of their life or 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.280 whatever. But it's even more so when it's like, 00:04:09.460 --> 00:04:12.139 it goes a step further. So it's not just a, oh, 00:04:12.139 --> 00:04:14.580 they go to church or they, you know, or whatever. 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.060 But it's like, they're in a ska band, or they 00:04:17.060 --> 00:04:19.579 used to do like Christian like sketch show or 00:04:19.579 --> 00:04:22.040 something. And you're like, oh, that's, that's 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.100 deeper than just being a Christian, you're like 00:04:24.100 --> 00:04:26.860 producing like art or whatever like that. So 00:04:26.860 --> 00:04:28.519 I always feel like it's cool when you get to 00:04:29.189 --> 00:04:31.790 Just have that like step further with it. Mmm. 00:04:31.990 --> 00:04:34.250 Yeah, it's fascinating. And so that one just 00:04:34.250 --> 00:04:36.970 kind of blew my mind I'm gonna have to do more 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:39.509 of a deep dive because apparently they put out 00:04:39.509 --> 00:04:42.389 a full -length and an EP and so I need to get 00:04:42.389 --> 00:04:44.990 these I don't know if they're on streaming or 00:04:44.990 --> 00:04:47.009 not But I'm gonna have to figure this one out 00:04:47.009 --> 00:04:49.550 and see if I can track it down somewhere out 00:04:49.550 --> 00:04:52.649 there It's probably like independent. Yeah, so 00:04:52.649 --> 00:04:55.589 we may have to dig it out. I don't know if if 00:04:55.589 --> 00:04:59.870 Oscar himself has put it out on streaming, but 00:04:59.870 --> 00:05:01.769 we'll have to see what we can find. So I just, 00:05:01.949 --> 00:05:04.730 I thought that was an interesting thing. So I 00:05:04.730 --> 00:05:06.970 thought today we could play a game and this is 00:05:06.970 --> 00:05:10.410 kind of a back and forth one. Just a little bit 00:05:10.410 --> 00:05:14.930 of us. I don't really have a name for it, but 00:05:14.930 --> 00:05:18.910 it's kind of just the idea of what's the first 00:05:18.910 --> 00:05:23.790 artist that comes to your mind when we say a 00:05:23.790 --> 00:05:26.870 specific word or an adjective. So for instance, 00:05:28.209 --> 00:05:38.110 if I told you the word hyper, what would be the 00:05:38.110 --> 00:05:40.389 first Christian artist that pops in your mind 00:05:40.389 --> 00:05:43.089 around the word hyper? Family force five. Family 00:05:43.089 --> 00:05:45.769 force five. So there you go. So maybe we can 00:05:45.769 --> 00:05:48.269 just kind of do a back and forth. Like you give 00:05:48.269 --> 00:05:50.750 me an adjective, I'll give you an artist and 00:05:50.750 --> 00:05:55.149 I'll give you an adjective. Just let's do it 00:05:55.149 --> 00:05:58.029 All right cuz I already did one All right. Here's 00:05:58.029 --> 00:06:00.410 the next one. I don't think this is an adjective. 00:06:00.470 --> 00:06:01.949 So there's gonna be a couple of nouns thrown 00:06:01.949 --> 00:06:08.310 in okay sounds good vinyl vinyl Sufjan Stevens, 00:06:08.949 --> 00:06:11.050 okay. He's a little bit on my brain right now. 00:06:11.050 --> 00:06:15.089 Mm -hmm, but Yeah, probably because I have everything 00:06:15.089 --> 00:06:26.120 that he's ever put out on vinyl Okay contemplative 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:35.579 uh can you use that in a sentence um they were 00:06:35.579 --> 00:06:40.959 contemplative oh that clears it up uh you know 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.959 i really don't i don't know what this word means 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.800 thoughtful um thoughtful okay i'm gonna go with 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.209 uh me without you Interesting. I was like that 00:06:50.209 --> 00:06:52.750 word sounds mysterious. Me without you is mysterious. 00:06:52.930 --> 00:06:56.649 They're thought. They think a lot. Yeah. Okay. 00:06:57.029 --> 00:07:01.970 Radio. Radio. I don't know why this popped in 00:07:01.970 --> 00:07:07.829 my head. Building 429. Why did that pop in? I 00:07:07.829 --> 00:07:11.230 can see that. That's the first thing that came 00:07:11.230 --> 00:07:23.870 to my mind. A spark. Uh, thousand foot crutch. 00:07:24.370 --> 00:07:27.870 Okay. Um, was that, was that separate or is that 00:07:27.870 --> 00:07:30.910 one word? I don't know. I'm just making this 00:07:30.910 --> 00:07:40.089 up as I go along. Um, authentic. Rich Mullins. 00:07:40.410 --> 00:07:59.060 Okay. Um, flavorful. Let's see Oh, I'm trying 00:07:59.060 --> 00:08:06.180 to think of what what that pans name is I'll 00:08:06.180 --> 00:08:09.459 go Lauren Daigle Lauren Daigle. Okay, interesting 00:08:09.459 --> 00:08:23.180 Acoustic jars of clay. Yeah quiet Jars of clay. 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:34.600 It's almost like we just did that. Okay. Well 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:41.159 read. I'm staring at a bunch of books in my office. 00:08:42.620 --> 00:08:48.299 I think I'm going to go with. Steve Taylor. Okay, 00:08:48.460 --> 00:08:51.980 that's a good one. I'm trying not to use the 00:08:51.980 --> 00:08:54.259 same band twice. I would have been like, oh, 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:55.940 Aaron Wise seems like he's just reading books 00:08:55.940 --> 00:09:01.480 like in his sleep or whatever. Timeless. Amy 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:12.340 Grant. Okay. Maybe this will transition a little 00:09:12.340 --> 00:09:16.320 bit into where we're going. Great live. Ooh, 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:24.919 great live. Tommy Mack. Okay. Awesome. All right. 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:27.039 How many more you want to do? That's good. Okay. 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.220 Maybe that's a good transition point for us to 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:32.139 talk about the fact that today we're going to 00:09:32.139 --> 00:09:34.179 be talking about some of our favorite concert 00:09:34.179 --> 00:09:37.120 experiences, some of the best shows that we've 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.519 been to. But real quick, before we dig into that, 00:09:41.779 --> 00:09:44.710 like We've got to talk about what we've been 00:09:44.710 --> 00:09:47.210 listening to lately. So for you, what's what's 00:09:47.210 --> 00:09:48.409 been something that you've been spending time 00:09:48.409 --> 00:09:53.769 with? I really like going on I was about to say 00:09:53.769 --> 00:09:58.629 there's an unnamed streaming app that I use But 00:09:58.629 --> 00:10:03.250 no on on Spotify, I would imagine there's something 00:10:03.250 --> 00:10:07.750 similar with Apple and with Amazon music or whatever, 00:10:07.830 --> 00:10:11.789 but they have like your like a on repeat playlist 00:10:11.950 --> 00:10:15.230 they also have a thing called repeat rewind where 00:10:15.230 --> 00:10:17.730 it's like songs that you were like were listening 00:10:17.730 --> 00:10:21.090 on repeat to maybe like a month or six months 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:24.409 ago or whatever that's cool um so i love going 00:10:24.409 --> 00:10:27.549 back and like sometimes if i just don't have 00:10:27.549 --> 00:10:29.169 time to do a playlist or i don't know why i don't 00:10:29.169 --> 00:10:31.470 listen to i'll listen to on repeat but then other 00:10:31.470 --> 00:10:33.450 times i'll go back and i'll listen to like the 00:10:33.450 --> 00:10:37.350 repeat rewind so it's like 20 songs or whatever 00:10:37.350 --> 00:10:41.379 that at one point i was listening to a ton and 00:10:41.379 --> 00:10:44.019 um so i feel like it's cool just going back and 00:10:44.019 --> 00:10:47.759 kind of getting to rediscover music that um i 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.100 either just really loved or that maybe was like 00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:52.139 helping me through a certain point in my life 00:10:52.139 --> 00:10:55.320 or whatever um so i just i just love getting 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.519 to put that on and i think that it's what's cool 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:02.860 is like um i love when it can kind of like learn 00:11:02.860 --> 00:11:05.740 what you're listening to so it's like i get my 00:11:05.740 --> 00:11:07.659 playlist without having to put the effort into 00:11:07.659 --> 00:11:10.600 it so it's just It's like if someone just delivered 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:12.659 a pizza to be nice. It's like I don't have to 00:11:12.659 --> 00:11:15.580 order a pay for the pizza I just walk in my house 00:11:15.580 --> 00:11:18.519 and there's a pizza on the counter That's cool. 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.940 Yeah apple music has playlists like that that 00:11:21.940 --> 00:11:24.419 kind of capture um stuff you've been listening 00:11:24.419 --> 00:11:29.580 to you and um, they also have like I check this 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:32.840 out every friday. There's a new playlist of like 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:34.820 things that they think i'm gonna like that's 00:11:34.820 --> 00:11:36.899 new. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, which is kind of cool 00:11:36.899 --> 00:11:40.149 So i'll check that out They also just made an 00:11:40.149 --> 00:11:45.850 update to the way playlists work, where in a 00:11:45.850 --> 00:11:48.330 playlist they'll connect songs together that 00:11:48.330 --> 00:11:53.039 fit well together. and like what they're in like 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.919 the same key or are there something similar about 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.840 the rhythm and they'll transition from song to 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:02.799 song, but in like a really nice way. And so the 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.000 playlist feel kind of cohesive. That's nothing 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.759 to do with what we're talking about, but I just, 00:12:06.899 --> 00:12:08.980 it's a feature that I appreciate Apple Music 00:12:08.980 --> 00:12:13.039 doing. So for me, I've been kind of going back. 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:18.220 I mentioned him earlier. But Sufjan Stevens is 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:22.259 a guy that I've listened to a lot in my life. 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:25.639 And I've been just jumping back and spending 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:28.360 some time with him lately. And one of my favorite 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.759 records by him is a record called Illinois, where 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:37.360 he was doing like, doing basically for two states, 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.019 he did albums based on the states, one for Michigan 00:12:41.019 --> 00:12:44.309 and one for Illinois. But Illinois is an amazing 00:12:44.309 --> 00:12:47.250 record. It's technically called Come On, Feel 00:12:47.250 --> 00:12:50.889 the Illinoiss. But most people just refer to 00:12:50.889 --> 00:12:57.950 it as Illinois. But it's just a fantastic record 00:12:57.950 --> 00:13:01.429 and one of my favorites of all time. So that 00:13:01.429 --> 00:13:04.149 one's been fun to just kind of dig back into. 00:13:04.730 --> 00:13:08.169 So, well, let's transition and talk a little 00:13:08.169 --> 00:13:16.750 bit about some of our favorite concerts. All 00:13:16.750 --> 00:13:23.029 right, so Brandon, you kind of have this idea 00:13:23.029 --> 00:13:28.230 of like looking back at some of our experiences. 00:13:28.710 --> 00:13:32.110 Talk to me about that and why you kind of wanted 00:13:32.110 --> 00:13:34.730 us to have this conversation. Yeah, I think for 00:13:34.730 --> 00:13:38.429 me, so we grew up in a place where there wasn't 00:13:38.429 --> 00:13:42.580 a ton of artists that came through. so we probably 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:45.879 had to drive 45 minutes an hour to like the nearest 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.940 where you have a band come but even for us that 00:13:49.940 --> 00:13:52.679 would have been Columbia, South Carolina but 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.320 even a lot of bands even nowadays they'll probably 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:59.120 hit up Greenville and then maybe Charleston so 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.519 really they're hitting everywhere around except 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.419 for Columbia so for me growing up I just remember 00:14:05.419 --> 00:14:08.899 it was so cool the like these songs that meant 00:14:08.899 --> 00:14:13.610 so much to me um you know just in life or uh 00:14:13.610 --> 00:14:15.669 just like my faith too i feel like it was just 00:14:15.669 --> 00:14:18.830 this gateway to not just what i was growing up 00:14:18.830 --> 00:14:21.710 in but like what the entire world was and how 00:14:21.710 --> 00:14:24.570 there's different like thoughts out there yeah 00:14:24.570 --> 00:14:27.169 um so for me it was so cool that when you would 00:14:27.169 --> 00:14:29.909 get to take these these songs that meant so much 00:14:29.909 --> 00:14:32.090 and then you got to go to a concert and you got 00:14:32.090 --> 00:14:35.879 to see that person perform them and um and as 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.159 someone who just like I loved opening a cd and 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:40.299 looking at the booklet and looking at what design 00:14:40.299 --> 00:14:43.879 was on the um disc itself I feel like it's a 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.139 whole other step when you go to a show and you 00:14:46.139 --> 00:14:48.620 get to see where oh they changed that lyric about 00:14:48.620 --> 00:14:51.720 this or they're telling the story behind it um 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:55.419 so for me it's just such a such an experience 00:14:55.419 --> 00:14:57.299 and I love getting to see people who go to their 00:14:57.299 --> 00:15:01.149 first concert and they just get to go man I felt 00:15:01.149 --> 00:15:04.190 like I knew music but now seeing it live is so 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:07.250 and you know as as someone too like it's it went 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:09.389 from these like giant places where it's thousands 00:15:09.389 --> 00:15:11.590 of people to now going to concerts where it's 00:15:11.590 --> 00:15:14.990 like maybe 100 people um to me it's just cool 00:15:14.990 --> 00:15:17.330 like getting to experience that and I think for 00:15:17.330 --> 00:15:20.230 both of us we've not only gotten to experience 00:15:20.230 --> 00:15:23.230 that but I think too just we got to experience 00:15:23.230 --> 00:15:26.960 like different like eras of that. Yeah for sure. 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.259 So I feel like it's cool just going back and 00:15:29.259 --> 00:15:32.620 seeing like the people that were my like my favorite 00:15:32.620 --> 00:15:36.019 bands versus yours and seeing if there's like 00:15:36.019 --> 00:15:39.019 overlap to that or if you know whatever it looks 00:15:39.019 --> 00:15:42.340 like. Yeah yeah that's fun. I agree with you 00:15:42.340 --> 00:15:46.100 like live music probably shaped a lot of my love 00:15:46.100 --> 00:15:48.840 for music in general. Just some of the first 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.899 times that I was able to to experience artists. 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:55.919 I feel like for you, it's just something that 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.059 I've gleaned from hearing you talk about music 00:15:58.059 --> 00:16:01.279 is that concerts actually really do play a really 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:03.679 important part in your discovery of artists. 00:16:05.379 --> 00:16:08.580 And a lot of bands that you really love, you 00:16:08.580 --> 00:16:10.299 love because you went to a show and they were 00:16:10.299 --> 00:16:13.279 an opening act or whatever it may be. And I think 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.019 that's true. That's really true for me too, that 00:16:16.019 --> 00:16:17.860 there's just a lot of artists that I've been 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:24.720 exposed to. This is not a a Christian music situation, 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:26.779 but I went to see one of my favorite bands, Wilco, 00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:29.740 live one time. And the opening act was this guy 00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:32.259 sitting on the stage with an acoustic guitar 00:16:32.259 --> 00:16:36.120 called Bon Iver. And today Bon Iver is probably 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:40.919 bigger than Wilco pretty significantly. But getting 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.500 able to see him in that setting before he was 00:16:43.500 --> 00:16:46.559 who he is was just kind of a cool thing. And 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:51.100 so it is neat being able to to capture moments 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:54.820 like that live and be able to experience something 00:16:54.820 --> 00:16:57.759 that's pretty special. Yeah. So I'm with you 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.659 and I'm excited for the conversation. Yeah, so 00:17:01.659 --> 00:17:05.259 I guess we can go ahead and jump into maybe what 00:17:05.259 --> 00:17:08.160 the first concert was or maybe the first one 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.900 you remember playing a huge role. So is there 00:17:11.900 --> 00:17:15.710 one you remember that was just like a wow this 00:17:15.710 --> 00:17:20.549 is something else yeah i probably like i probably 00:17:20.549 --> 00:17:28.150 went to concerts as a kid um that um were more 00:17:28.150 --> 00:17:33.029 like pop oriented or i don't honestly don't really 00:17:33.029 --> 00:17:38.130 know um i went in middle school to a camp um 00:17:38.130 --> 00:17:41.450 in texas um a summer camp with my youth group 00:17:41.450 --> 00:17:44.779 called friends forever And this was like a youth 00:17:44.779 --> 00:17:51.680 camp at Baylor University. And the interesting 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.519 thing about it was, you know, you go to most 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:56.119 youth camps, you do games during the day, you 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:57.799 have this morning thing, do games during the 00:17:57.799 --> 00:17:59.960 day, and then you have like teaching and worship 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:02.019 at night, and then you like break off and go 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:05.359 talk to your youth group or whatever. Friends 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:10.019 Forever was like, you would, it was a similar 00:18:10.019 --> 00:18:16.190 camp model in that you had and you had worship, 00:18:17.009 --> 00:18:18.410 some kind of worship thing in the morning. You 00:18:18.410 --> 00:18:21.170 do some fun stuff during the day. At night you 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:25.450 would go and they had worship and teaching. And 00:18:25.450 --> 00:18:29.009 I remember it was like, this is, I'm dating myself 00:18:29.009 --> 00:18:31.269 pretty significantly. This is the 90s. So this 00:18:31.269 --> 00:18:34.130 is like the beginning of like the worship movement. 00:18:34.730 --> 00:18:40.049 um in the early 90s probably 90 91 um and uh 00:18:40.049 --> 00:18:43.109 and so all that was out there and worship was 00:18:43.109 --> 00:18:46.630 like the really old stuff like um word I lift 00:18:46.630 --> 00:18:49.730 your name on high and stuff like this back then 00:18:49.730 --> 00:18:53.069 and so worship was kind of um this was before 00:18:53.069 --> 00:18:55.589 like passion and stuff and I remember that because 00:18:55.589 --> 00:19:00.269 I think Maranatha singers were like the worship 00:19:00.269 --> 00:19:02.970 leaders and I'm pretty sure Louis Giglio was 00:19:02.970 --> 00:19:05.190 like the teacher of the camp, but he also was 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:07.769 part of that group, like singing and leading 00:19:07.769 --> 00:19:10.109 and worship, which is kind of interesting. But 00:19:10.109 --> 00:19:12.950 anyway, so you do worship and teaching, but then 00:19:12.950 --> 00:19:16.029 every night ended with a concert, like every 00:19:16.029 --> 00:19:18.529 night of camp. So you're there for like five, 00:19:18.769 --> 00:19:21.130 four or five nights and every night you get an 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:24.609 artist. And so I remember at Friends Forever 00:19:24.609 --> 00:19:28.250 that year, it was like for him one night, it 00:19:28.250 --> 00:19:32.109 was Steve Camp one night. But the one that really 00:19:32.109 --> 00:19:37.470 stuck out in my mind was Petra So Petra played 00:19:37.470 --> 00:19:40.789 at Friends Forever and that concert was the first 00:19:40.789 --> 00:19:44.809 rock concert I ever went to Was ever a part of 00:19:44.809 --> 00:19:47.509 and I remember being down front somehow we got 00:19:47.509 --> 00:19:51.630 good seats that night and And just seeing Petra 00:19:51.630 --> 00:19:54.950 they were on their unseen power tour So this 00:19:54.950 --> 00:19:58.009 was the album like after Beyond Belief probably 00:19:58.009 --> 00:20:02.910 like the height of their popularity and they 00:20:02.910 --> 00:20:08.170 killed it like it was so good and it it opened 00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:14.170 up this part of me that I didn't know like existed 00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:17.150 because I'd never really been exposed to anything 00:20:17.150 --> 00:20:20.750 like that before and man I bought the cassette 00:20:20.750 --> 00:20:26.549 took that thing home and I wore it out And it 00:20:26.549 --> 00:20:28.630 was all I listened to. And then I'm like buying 00:20:28.630 --> 00:20:31.710 more Petra records, trying to get into it. And 00:20:31.710 --> 00:20:34.869 I didn't stay in the Petra world for like too 00:20:34.869 --> 00:20:38.990 long after that. But it really opened a door 00:20:38.990 --> 00:20:44.410 for me that that to just a world that I hadn't 00:20:44.410 --> 00:20:46.950 experienced. And so I'll always be super like 00:20:46.950 --> 00:20:49.819 thankful for that. What about you? Like, what 00:20:49.819 --> 00:20:52.119 was the first concert that was really meaningful? 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.880 The first one I remember going to and just being 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.839 like, this is going to be so amazing, was Winter 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:06.140 Jam 2007. Our dates are so far away from each 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:10.059 other. So I remember being a young young man. 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:14.839 How old were you then? I would have been so they 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:18.099 usually came February. So I guess I would have 00:21:18.099 --> 00:21:21.460 been 14 at the time so a little older than I 00:21:21.460 --> 00:21:25.200 was yeah and um before going into like why it 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.859 was amazing I just want to highlight a little 00:21:27.859 --> 00:21:30.640 bit of the lineup for this so you have Jeremy 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.299 Camp and at the time everyone like Jeremy Camp 00:21:33.299 --> 00:21:35.759 was known as like oh he's a good singer but all 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:37.220 of the like girls thought he was just really 00:21:37.220 --> 00:21:40.920 cute and then Steven Chris Chapman you just have 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:42.769 like kind of like who I thought was going to 00:21:42.769 --> 00:21:46.930 be this random person there. You have Sync Disreal 00:21:46.930 --> 00:21:49.650 and that's when they'd like just released Face 00:21:49.650 --> 00:21:51.809 of Love. So that's probably right when they're 00:21:51.809 --> 00:21:55.049 starting to pick up a lot of steam. But what 00:21:55.049 --> 00:21:58.630 stands out to me is that they had a guy there 00:21:58.630 --> 00:22:06.549 who was a impersonator of George W. Bush and 00:22:06.549 --> 00:22:11.039 I just thought like What a time 2007 was. Can 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:16.160 you imagine in just the past 10 years, our political 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.279 climate, imagine how divisive it would be if 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.660 you had someone that got up as a Trump impersonator 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:26.039 or a Biden. I feel like it's so weird thinking 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.400 back then, there was no one who's upset about 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:32.299 it. I mean, sure, some people were, but no one 00:22:32.299 --> 00:22:35.380 was like... Oh, this is outrage. It's more of 00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:38.380 like either. Oh, he is kind of funny or yeah, 00:22:38.380 --> 00:22:41.339 he that's silly what he said He hadn't ruined 00:22:41.339 --> 00:22:44.579 a ship. Yeah, and um, And so I just thought it 00:22:44.579 --> 00:22:47.240 was interesting. But yeah, I remember that concert. 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.920 Um, I remember sink you left out new song new 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:56.839 song was there too. Um No, I I like the show 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.619 um, I remember the two that stood out was saint 00:23:00.619 --> 00:23:04.750 is real and I was just like, man, this is so 00:23:04.750 --> 00:23:08.430 cool. And I remember Steve and Chris Chapman 00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:10.910 just being surprised because I guess it's like 00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:13.009 you listen to stuff on the radio and you just 00:23:13.009 --> 00:23:15.490 assume, okay, he's gonna be this like guy that's 00:23:15.490 --> 00:23:18.250 just out here singing like, I don't know, kind 00:23:18.250 --> 00:23:21.029 of like boring. Yeah. But like, I love seeing 00:23:21.029 --> 00:23:25.109 him live. It was a really good show. And I just 00:23:25.109 --> 00:23:27.190 remember being so excited going up to like the 00:23:27.190 --> 00:23:30.339 merch booths and buying like my CDs. getting 00:23:30.339 --> 00:23:32.400 in the car and immediately putting them in the 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:35.480 CD player just to be like, oh man, I gotta listen 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:37.960 to that song again or like what was that song 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.579 about, you know, and discovering other ones and 00:23:40.579 --> 00:23:45.259 um so yeah it was that was the first show and 00:23:45.259 --> 00:23:48.740 two it was like before Winter Jam just became 00:23:48.740 --> 00:23:53.420 like too overboard because like you would still 00:23:53.420 --> 00:23:57.460 kind of like fill up the the place and they also 00:23:57.460 --> 00:24:00.539 would give like booklets So like each each person 00:24:00.539 --> 00:24:02.519 got a booklet that was like here's the artist 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.480 here. Here's some information And I still have 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.859 mine from I think the 2008 one And so now I just 00:24:08.859 --> 00:24:11.279 go and i'm like you have too many people showing 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.920 up to winter jam You have no booklets. And so 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.559 I feel like winter jam just really I I um, they 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:21.599 turned their back on our fans like me that oh, 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.220 man That's such a bummer I'm sure they're really 00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:28.279 upset that I'm not showing up and being like 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:31.299 so you're saying we print off 10 ,000 booklets 00:24:31.299 --> 00:24:33.920 you're gonna show back up. I'm like, yes a booklet 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.339 I would like I'm pretty sure they have that available 00:24:37.339 --> 00:24:42.480 available digitally for you now Brandon So a 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.819 QR code I can scan as you walk in through the 00:24:45.819 --> 00:24:51.799 through the gates That's cool what what I know 00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.490 for me like there's probably like stages to this 00:24:55.490 --> 00:24:58.869 of like walking through my life and hitting moments 00:24:58.869 --> 00:25:03.329 where I'm like, oh, my eyes were opened in a 00:25:03.329 --> 00:25:05.769 new way through seeing a different a different 00:25:05.769 --> 00:25:09.690 artist. You know, one that's probably like a 00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:13.990 next one for me. That was a big deal. So in Jackson, 00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:18.509 Mississippi, where I grew up, we had the Coliseum. 00:25:18.569 --> 00:25:20.309 I mean, a lot of big cities have a Coliseum, 00:25:20.349 --> 00:25:24.519 right? Um, and so we had the coliseum and I got 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:29.420 to go see This was probably high school or late 00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:35.700 middle school Wait, it was It was 93. So yeah, 00:25:35.779 --> 00:25:37.799 it could have been either one like it's probably 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.279 either my eighth or ninth grade year. Um, I got 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.500 to see um The michael w smith change your world 00:25:44.500 --> 00:25:48.839 tour. Um, and so michael w smith I always loved 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.299 and I love I love that record a lot and it was 00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:56.740 like one of these like You talk about like a 00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:02.000 big show um, like super produce like yeah, they 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.240 like put in like the walkway that comes like 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:06.500 through the crowd and like I remember michael 00:26:06.500 --> 00:26:10.099 lv smith coming down the walkway and um, I remember 00:26:10.099 --> 00:26:14.440 it just being like this really big deal and um 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.599 And he had some super that that record was kind 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.380 of his like if he had a record that was like 00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:22.700 his breakout record it was that one like he had 00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:25.940 a song that was pretty big yeah unlike the secular 00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:31.160 charts um and um it was a great a great album 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.059 and pretty innovative and so it's cool seeing 00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:37.359 him but um probably went more for the openers 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.039 than even to go see him. And that's because the 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.700 band that was opening for him was DC Talk. And 00:26:44.700 --> 00:26:48.319 they were touring their Free At Last record, 00:26:49.259 --> 00:26:53.720 which is their third record. And it's up there 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.920 for me, for sure. It's a pretty great album. 00:26:58.779 --> 00:27:03.079 And one that just really stood out to me, one 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:05.920 that... impacted me, I think in a lot of ways, 00:27:06.019 --> 00:27:08.759 like kind of a rap rock kind of thing. And so 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:14.900 it was so cool. I remember as great as Michael 00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:17.480 B. Smith was, and I still have a lot of respect 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.480 for that guy. I remember walking away and the 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.779 only thing I could think of was DC Talk. And 00:27:22.779 --> 00:27:25.940 I had already been a huge fan. So I already had 00:27:25.940 --> 00:27:29.740 the music. Nothing was a surprise to me, but 00:27:29.740 --> 00:27:34.069 experiencing it live. just like amplified it 00:27:34.069 --> 00:27:38.890 to another level. Being able to see Toby do his 00:27:38.890 --> 00:27:44.109 thing, being able to hear Kevin sing like, and 00:27:44.109 --> 00:27:46.910 you're like, oh, he actually is like that good 00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:50.509 of a singer. Just being able to experience all 00:27:50.509 --> 00:27:53.630 that stuff live was just such a cool experience. 00:27:53.650 --> 00:27:55.690 And it was, they weren't like, it wasn't a tape, 00:27:55.690 --> 00:28:00.289 they had a band and it was just a killer show. 00:28:01.289 --> 00:28:03.930 they definitely knew how to put on an amazing 00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:07.789 show. And so I, that's one that just really stands 00:28:07.789 --> 00:28:10.549 out to me kind of as like a next one that that 00:28:10.549 --> 00:28:13.609 was pretty impactful. When you think about your 00:28:13.609 --> 00:28:15.289 thing, can you think of like another one a little 00:28:15.289 --> 00:28:17.650 further down the road that was pretty impactful 00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:21.750 for you? Yeah, so we started going to Winter 00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:24.190 Jam pretty much every year, like me and my mom 00:28:24.190 --> 00:28:32.069 and we went in 2010 they had audio um it's called 00:28:32.069 --> 00:28:35.670 audio unplugged so it was mark and will from 00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:39.450 audio adrenaline and then it was a couple of 00:28:39.450 --> 00:28:41.529 other members and they would go on to form i 00:28:41.529 --> 00:28:43.470 don't know if you ever listened to no hope connect 00:28:43.470 --> 00:28:46.990 uh collective so it was kind of just like worship 00:28:46.990 --> 00:28:48.849 christian collective or whatever they did they 00:28:48.849 --> 00:28:50.710 just released one album but it was kind of i 00:28:50.710 --> 00:28:54.140 guess in between audio adrenaline going on hiatus 00:28:54.140 --> 00:28:56.180 and then them coming back with like kevin max 00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:00.220 but it was this the like the whole day the whole 00:29:00.220 --> 00:29:02.519 evening was just them singing audio adrenaline 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.819 songs then a couple of the new songs they had 00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:08.700 sung and it was just so cool because with winter 00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:11.500 jam it was always a the artists are up there 00:29:11.500 --> 00:29:14.799 on stage so you're far away from them if you 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:16.759 want to meet them you either got to get like 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.440 some kind of pass or you got to stand in line 00:29:20.379 --> 00:29:22.880 And at this audio unplugged show, it was just 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.119 at a church, like maybe the size of our church, 00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:30.900 maybe a little smaller. So it was just so cool 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.779 getting to hear, like, the stories behind all 00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:35.980 these songs. And I'm sitting there thinking, 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.640 like, man, we can do that. Like, we can trade 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.480 pyro and all for more, like, storytelling. Yeah. 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.609 Yes, please. That's awesome. so after the show 00:29:44.609 --> 00:29:47.710 I got to go up and I got a photo with Mark and 00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:50.369 Will and I remember just thinking like this is 00:29:50.369 --> 00:29:54.029 so cool that I got to like meet these people 00:29:54.029 --> 00:29:57.549 so it was kind of that next step and not just 00:29:57.549 --> 00:30:00.829 like getting to hear them sing but feeling like 00:30:00.829 --> 00:30:04.210 I got to meet these people and be like hey this 00:30:04.210 --> 00:30:08.670 is so cool um and I think too at that point it 00:30:08.670 --> 00:30:10.970 was audiojournalist had kind of already like 00:30:10.970 --> 00:30:15.240 started making like an impact in my life and 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.500 so then that worship project they did it was 00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:20.839 cool too because it kind of I think started like 00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:24.319 maybe softening my heart for like worship music 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:29.299 doesn't have to be like fake or artificial whatever 00:30:29.299 --> 00:30:31.980 and so yeah I think that was my next step in 00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:35.660 being like oh man like this is it's cooler just 00:30:35.660 --> 00:30:37.859 to have a couple of hundred people here than 00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:41.039 to have like 10 ,000 people here. Yeah, I love 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.960 that. I think that's really cool. Moments like 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:49.900 that. I feel like, yeah, for me, like when I 00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:51.579 think through a moment that kind of like brought 00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:55.440 things down to a smaller level, but I was impacted 00:30:55.440 --> 00:31:00.460 pretty significantly. I in high school started 00:31:00.460 --> 00:31:04.279 a band and we were terrible and then got to be 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.599 okay. But there was a point in time in college 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.920 where we got added on to a show for a band that 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.519 we really loved and were excited. And it was 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.380 a couple of hours away from where we lived. And 00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:21.400 so I like a Christian college in Hattiesburg, 00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:24.740 Mississippi. And so we hopped and went down and 00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:28.200 we were playing with a band, 238, which was a 00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:33.680 Tuthenell artist. And I had never seen them live 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:39.150 up until that point, but being there, And seeing 00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:45.609 them play with probably 100, 150 people in the 00:31:45.609 --> 00:31:50.069 room, just in like a big room at this college 00:31:50.069 --> 00:31:55.170 campus, was one of the coolest experiences that 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.890 I had ever had. And seeing their... chemistry 00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:02.210 and how tight they were and how full and big 00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:05.150 the sound was in a small space. You just felt 00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:07.529 like you were part of the music as it was happening. 00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.890 Yeah. And I think it's one of the first times 00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:12.490 that I really like felt like even though I'd 00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:15.170 been in a band myself, like I really felt like 00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:19.250 caught up in what was happening at a concert 00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:23.670 in a deeper kind of way and like drawn in like 00:32:23.670 --> 00:32:26.950 this isn't just a group of like people on the 00:32:26.950 --> 00:32:28.690 stage that we're all watching but we're like 00:32:28.690 --> 00:32:33.609 all part of this experience together and that 00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:36.650 concert just stands out to me and we played with 00:32:36.650 --> 00:32:39.269 them a bunch in the future so I got to see them 00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:42.970 live a ton. They're still to this day one of 00:32:42.970 --> 00:32:48.559 my favorite live bands that I ever saw but but 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.240 there was just something special when when they 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.299 played and that night was a really special night 00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:56.400 and the cool thing was like we were just a bunch 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.279 of college kids trying to figure out how to be 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.440 in a band but they spent a ton of time with us 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.500 afterwards talking about amps and eqs and amps 00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:07.240 and all kinds of stuff because we opened up for 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.539 them and they were just like super helpful and 00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:15.220 the most genuine dudes and um and so that that 00:33:15.220 --> 00:33:18.019 one Like just hit me in a big way, but it kind 00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:19.960 of felt like like you were saying that more kind 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.599 of like intimate moment But one that still felt 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:28.579 so powerful I think for me Like when you talk 00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:31.359 about like you're a part of the show. I remember 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.599 the first time so I went out to California to 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.380 visit one of my friends Jess and she had invited 00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:44.279 me out to a concert and it was funny because 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.420 looking back on it, it was for like the Kony, 00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:49.539 things like Kony 2010 or whatever. And it was 00:33:49.539 --> 00:33:51.700 a benefit concert for them. And so this lineup 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:58.720 was Aaron Gillespie, the guy from I think it's 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:04.599 Nickel Creek, the lead guy, John Foreman. Was 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.199 it Fiction Family? So they came out and did that, 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.039 but they also did their separate stuff. So I 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.320 guess essentially they... It's cool. Did their 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.960 thing then they became a third band. I love fiction 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.980 family and so They did a couple of their stuff 00:34:17.980 --> 00:34:21.340 and the opener I believe his opener for a whole 00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:25.400 night was a guy named erin wise and um It and 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.460 it was crazy because they get on stage and there's 00:34:27.460 --> 00:34:31.039 like I don't know 15 maybe 20 people on stage 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.159 and Come to find out later on It was just he 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.840 had put on social media like hey if you guys 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.619 want to show up and you know our songs bring 00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:41.860 your instrument And I was just like that that's 00:34:41.860 --> 00:34:47.320 so cool and so uh fast forward um they were like 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:49.380 on hiatus so me without you they're releasing 00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:52.280 10 stories so they're gonna start touring again 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.800 and they're coming to columbia so me and my friends 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.599 go and we go in this like this little um it's 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.280 like this little bar in um in columbia i'm forgetting 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:08.269 the name of it but um they came and all these 00:35:08.269 --> 00:35:10.250 people are in the bar and i'm sitting there like 00:35:10.250 --> 00:35:13.389 new brooklyn tavern that's what it is yeah um 00:35:13.389 --> 00:35:16.510 and so they they're about to get on stage and 00:35:16.510 --> 00:35:18.570 i look at my friends and i'm like these people 00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:21.190 are about to be so confused as to who this band 00:35:21.190 --> 00:35:24.309 is turns out like we were the ones that weren't 00:35:24.309 --> 00:35:26.170 huge like me without you fans because there was 00:35:26.170 --> 00:35:29.550 like half the songs i hadn't heard before but 00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:32.869 everyone in that room is just like singing along 00:35:32.869 --> 00:35:35.690 and just paying it and it's like we're We're 00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:38.510 all there because we love this band. There's 00:35:38.510 --> 00:35:41.170 no one there that's just, I got dragged here 00:35:41.170 --> 00:35:43.849 or whatever. It's like everyone there is just 00:35:43.849 --> 00:35:49.010 so into it. And what was cool is with Me Without 00:35:49.010 --> 00:35:52.690 You, they had like, their set list was just changing 00:35:52.690 --> 00:35:54.670 night to night. So it was like, if you go to 00:35:54.670 --> 00:35:57.670 a lot of bands nowadays, you might have one. 00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:00.590 maybe two songs change, you know, like if Need 00:36:00.590 --> 00:36:02.789 to Breathe comes to Charleston, maybe they sing 00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:04.929 a song that's about, you know, that or whatever, 00:36:05.349 --> 00:36:10.070 but most bands have the same stuff. With Me Without 00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:13.090 You, if they're playing 20 songs, there might 00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:15.730 be 10 of them that are the same, and then there's 00:36:15.730 --> 00:36:18.349 just 10 that are different, so you could go to 00:36:18.349 --> 00:36:21.329 a concert three nights in a row and you're not 00:36:21.329 --> 00:36:24.409 getting the same show, and I just always thought 00:36:24.409 --> 00:36:28.590 that was so special that like It just felt like 00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:32.789 what what we have in this night tonight No one 00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:35.929 else is going to like share this like this is 00:36:35.929 --> 00:36:39.949 our like special time and It just felt like that 00:36:39.949 --> 00:36:43.130 with like every me without you show that um, 00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:46.269 they would do like because I got to see them 00:36:46.269 --> 00:36:51.650 Um see Maybe like three or four more times. Yeah, 00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:53.869 and it was just like every time it was just cool 00:36:53.869 --> 00:36:58.489 thinking like um Like it wasn't just we're just 00:36:58.489 --> 00:37:00.150 punching the clock and we're getting at that 00:37:00.150 --> 00:37:02.750 in and out of here It's we want to put on something 00:37:02.750 --> 00:37:09.210 special for everyone In a college My band there 00:37:09.210 --> 00:37:12.090 is this club this like Christian concert venue 00:37:12.090 --> 00:37:15.110 in the same town as our college that the guy 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:19.909 who like works Recorded our first record. He 00:37:19.909 --> 00:37:24.110 and his wife ran. It was called the CLB And so 00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:27.059 there were concerts at the CLB every weekend 00:37:27.059 --> 00:37:30.679 um and we played at a bunch of them and bands 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.340 like jonesetta and stuff were playing there um 00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:36.260 but it was hoping you were going to build earlier 00:37:36.260 --> 00:37:38.559 when you're talking about like being in mississippi 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.920 i actually never played a show with jonesetta 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:48.780 sadly um but um but anyways so this room's pretty 00:37:48.780 --> 00:37:51.400 small probably like it's smaller even than our 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:57.000 church lobby um pretty small room but um We played 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.480 with a band there one time called the operation 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:06.519 and they're like an indie rock Emo kind of band 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:10.699 and they had a record out that was awesome called 00:38:10.699 --> 00:38:14.579 there's hope for a tree cut down I want to say 00:38:14.579 --> 00:38:16.679 it was on like the militia group or something, 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.699 but I can't exactly remember But the drummer 00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:25.420 for that band was a guy named Aaron Weiss And 00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:28.940 I think that a couple of guys from the operation 00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:31.880 started me without you as a side project Because 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.199 Aaron wanted to try out being a front man. Uh 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.480 -huh. And so it's kind of an interesting thing 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.920 But I remember we played with the operation and 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.599 then we were at cornerstone In 2003 it's probably 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.380 the same year honestly and there was at Cornerstone 00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:52.599 back in the day, there'd be like generator stages 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.500 where bands would just kind of like set up and 00:38:55.500 --> 00:38:58.940 play, bring a generator. And we were walking 00:38:58.940 --> 00:39:03.480 by and saw my first Me Without You show on a 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.619 generator stage. And we're like, some of the 00:39:06.619 --> 00:39:09.800 guys from the operation, which is kind of fun. 00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:13.900 I've got one more that I can mention. Yeah, I 00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:15.119 don't know if you have any more. Yeah, I got 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.019 one more too. Okay. Um, so I think just like 00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:20.179 a next one for me that was pretty impactful. 00:39:21.219 --> 00:39:23.219 Um, started listening to a guy that I've already 00:39:23.219 --> 00:39:25.900 talked about on this podcast, Sufjan Stevens. 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:33.820 Um, and, um, and so Sufjan like blew up at a 00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:37.900 point in the early two thousands. Um, after Illinois, 00:39:37.980 --> 00:39:40.340 Illinois was kind of this big breakout record 00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:44.159 for him. But then he put out another album after 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:48.699 that called Age of Odds. And that was my first 00:39:48.699 --> 00:39:50.579 opportunity to get to see him live. He played 00:39:50.579 --> 00:39:54.599 in Asheville. And so I remember Emily and I went, 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.500 we met some friends up there and went to go see 00:39:56.500 --> 00:40:02.659 him play. And just the scope of that show, you 00:40:02.659 --> 00:40:04.460 talked about having a lot of band members on 00:40:04.460 --> 00:40:07.559 stage, but there were probably about 15 musicians 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.840 on stage. I remember there are two drum kits. 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:15.880 Like two drummers two drum kits up there And 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.099 playing that that concert and if you listen to 00:40:19.099 --> 00:40:22.699 that album age of odds, it's bonkers Like it 00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:27.320 is a bonkers record and all the good ways But 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:32.539 like Perfectly pulled that album off And was 00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:34.920 just one of the coolest music experiences that 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.780 I've ever seen. There's like a 20 minute song 00:40:38.780 --> 00:40:43.539 That ends that record um and uh it's amazing 00:40:43.539 --> 00:40:47.199 it's called impossible soul um and uh and they 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.800 did the whole thing live and at the end of it 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:55.059 it's just like this explosive like all out one 00:40:55.059 --> 00:40:57.179 of the poppiest things that you've like ever 00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:00.780 heard um but just such a cool like celebration 00:41:00.780 --> 00:41:05.820 and uh and there's balloons and confetti and 00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:09.769 it's just like it was just this magical moment 00:41:09.769 --> 00:41:13.309 just being able to catch it live and so that 00:41:13.309 --> 00:41:16.050 one I feel like is one that I'll never never 00:41:16.050 --> 00:41:18.650 forget it was just kind of a next level one for 00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.969 me of kind of opening up my eyes that even as 00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:27.429 an adult I can still be like wowed at a concert 00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:32.110 yeah that's really cool um I think for me the 00:41:32.110 --> 00:41:36.719 next step was um so I grew up like a huge House 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.679 of Furos fan and just never got to see them live. 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:45.460 What's crazy was that like it wasn't until like 00:41:45.460 --> 00:41:47.579 college that now I was like, okay, cool. I can 00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:49.960 drive far away. And then everyone I love stopped 00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.400 touring. So there were so many shows that I'm 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.679 like, you guys would have stuck it out for one 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.059 more year. I could have made that drive to Greenville. 00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:01.019 So they announced they were gonna do a reunion 00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:05.039 show in Nashville. And I was like, Okay, we'll 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.579 do this and it's like an eight -hour drive, but 00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:09.960 I was like it beats having to drop to Ohio for 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.739 a show. Yeah, and um So we drove out and it was 00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:16.920 in Nashville and they were playing the end is 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.800 not the end in its entirety and so jealous it 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:25.239 it was so cool because I think that if you can 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.820 relate or anyone listening can relate that you'll 00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:31.309 go to a concert and You know, they can only play 00:42:31.309 --> 00:42:34.269 so many songs. So there's bound to let off like 00:42:34.269 --> 00:42:37.389 a song on the album But like there's some of 00:42:37.389 --> 00:42:39.329 those songs that like never get played live. 00:42:39.409 --> 00:42:41.489 Yeah, I think even at that show there was a few 00:42:41.489 --> 00:42:45.429 that either had never been played or Might have 00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:47.650 been played like once like at the very beginning, 00:42:47.730 --> 00:42:50.329 but it's just as time goes on you pull maybe 00:42:50.329 --> 00:42:53.630 if you're lucky three songs from that and um 00:42:53.900 --> 00:42:57.900 So it was so cool just getting to have an album 00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:01.719 that was so special get played But also just 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.940 a show like that. It's kind of the same way with 00:43:03.940 --> 00:43:06.579 the the me without you that just everyone there 00:43:06.579 --> 00:43:10.340 is There to see the house of heroes people So 00:43:10.340 --> 00:43:12.559 everyone there is there because like they love 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.780 it. So just everyone is just really loving it 00:43:15.780 --> 00:43:18.079 I don't know why if like I need to say that fuck 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.079 I said like everyone's loving it just in four 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.599 different ways They're opener, tedious and brief. 00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:28.139 It was an awesome band and it was cool just afterwards 00:43:28.139 --> 00:43:30.940 getting to see them because I had met Tim and 00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:32.619 Stephanie years ago. They came to our church 00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:36.460 and played and we got to open for them. So technically 00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:39.000 I got to open for Copperlily but not House of 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.840 Heroes. but it was just so cool getting to talk 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.900 to them and also them remembering us so like 00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:48.360 that's a big key is that it's not just like you 00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:53.480 mean so much to me and going I who are you and 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.539 um so it was cool getting to walk up and be like 00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:58.619 hey Tim I'm like I remember you and it's like 00:43:58.619 --> 00:44:01.159 that's all right my this trip is worth it yeah 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.420 and um so yeah it was uh it was cool just getting 00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:09.250 to experience that um live and also just At that 00:44:09.250 --> 00:44:12.550 point, you're a band that you're not doing that 00:44:12.550 --> 00:44:14.809 show just because you have an obligation with 00:44:14.809 --> 00:44:17.230 your label. You're doing that because everyone 00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:19.429 wants to get together and play it. And so it's 00:44:19.429 --> 00:44:22.969 just cool. To me, you can tell whenever bands 00:44:22.969 --> 00:44:24.909 are putting out music, putting out shows, and 00:44:24.909 --> 00:44:27.429 they're just there just to say, all right, we 00:44:27.429 --> 00:44:29.969 did this, we're out. Versus the ones that are 00:44:29.969 --> 00:44:32.449 like, no, we're here because we love this or 00:44:32.449 --> 00:44:37.519 we love our fans. I did have, before we wrapped 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.460 up, I did have... Can I ask you one question 00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:43.079 really quick about that? Yeah. So you probably 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.860 know how Sphere is playing another show in December 00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:53.099 in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah. Are you going to that? 00:44:53.099 --> 00:44:55.159 Did they just release the opener or something? 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.079 I don't know who the opener is, but I was just 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.050 wondering if you were going to go. I don't know. 00:45:02.110 --> 00:45:03.849 I'm on the fence about it. There's a low ticket 00:45:03.849 --> 00:45:08.769 warning. I'll just call Tim up and say, yo, Tim, 00:45:08.809 --> 00:45:11.510 get me a ticket. Probably be like, who is this? 00:45:13.030 --> 00:45:18.090 I don't know. My friend Miranda, she like loves 00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:21.670 House of Heroes, like with a passion. And I know 00:45:21.670 --> 00:45:24.690 she's going to be there. So it's funny because 00:45:24.690 --> 00:45:27.030 the Nashville one is the one show she missed. 00:45:27.190 --> 00:45:31.659 I know she'll be there. Yeah, Nashville would 00:45:31.659 --> 00:45:33.579 probably be a little more doable. I don't know 00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:36.940 how far Columbus is. You have to drive through 00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:39.340 mountains and snow and I don't know what else 00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:47.059 is in Ohio. That's funny. I had a quick question 00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:51.039 though before we wrap this up. I feel like you 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.280 named a lot of bands you loved. Is there one 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.809 or two bands that you you missed either back 00:45:56.809 --> 00:45:59.510 then or now so you could either like i don't 00:45:59.510 --> 00:46:01.429 know if you want to go with time machine so if 00:46:01.429 --> 00:46:03.730 you want to go back to the 90s and see peak or 00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:06.670 just just in general like is there is there one 00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:08.909 or two bands that you're like man i wish i could 00:46:08.909 --> 00:46:14.269 have seen or right now i want to see yeah actually 00:46:14.269 --> 00:46:17.889 think house of heroes probably would have been 00:46:17.889 --> 00:46:23.639 one of those bands um for me um Because I just 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:25.900 never got I mean I got into them when they were 00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:29.219 active, but I feel like they never came super 00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:33.440 close by I started listening to them after the 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.320 end is not the end came out So yeah, they'd probably 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:47.500 be up there for me I feel like it's tough to 00:46:47.500 --> 00:46:49.320 think because right now I'm hoping that you take 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.420 time so I can look up because I don't have an 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:54.960 answer. While you think of yours, we can throw 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:59.840 it back and forth. I think Star Flyer 59. That's 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.960 a band that it's cool and we talk about these 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.719 bands that you meet and it's like they open up 00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.920 this new chapter or this new room of music. And 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.619 I think that's a band that, you know, when you 00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:19.239 talk about just authentic, that's a guy that 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.940 like is releasing music because that's what is 00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:27.099 on his mind. So I feel like that's one of those 00:47:27.099 --> 00:47:30.639 shows that I wouldn't want to go see Star Flyer 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.119 59 in a coliseum of people. I'd want to go that 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.480 even if it was just 50 people in a room, I feel 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:40.000 like that'd be the most amazing show. Just getting 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.739 like the story or just hearing him talk. What's 00:47:42.739 --> 00:47:44.300 upsetting though is that he probably wouldn't 00:47:44.300 --> 00:47:46.699 bring merch and that would upset me because i'd 00:47:46.699 --> 00:47:48.840 be like I want to buy stickers and he'd be like, 00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:53.280 uh, I don't I don't care That's funny I think 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.440 I saw them at cornerstone that year that I was 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:05.239 there in 2003. I'm pretty sure they played um 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:11.539 One for me is probably rich mullins, okay I can 00:48:11.539 --> 00:48:13.719 talk about an artist that's impacted me more 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:20.699 than maybe any other. In the Christian music 00:48:20.699 --> 00:48:25.639 world, I never got to see Rich perform live and 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:31.980 I would have loved that. So I think that definitely 00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:42.099 would have been one that stands out to me. All 00:48:42.099 --> 00:48:44.099 this talk makes me think about another band that 00:48:44.099 --> 00:48:47.179 I got to see that I deeply love that I did mention 00:48:47.179 --> 00:48:50.840 and that's PFR who I can't wait to talk about 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.820 PFR at some point, but They were my favorite 00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:57.159 band for years Throughout the course of all this 00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.579 and I I did get and get a chance to see them 00:48:59.579 --> 00:49:01.380 a couple of times and those were always really 00:49:01.380 --> 00:49:06.059 cool experiences so I Think for me the other 00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:08.360 artist that comes up is like of course like John 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.369 Rubin Because when you asked about the concert, 00:49:11.550 --> 00:49:13.590 I was like, I was telling you earlier, I'm like, 00:49:13.590 --> 00:49:15.929 man, if they announce he's the opener, like that 00:49:15.929 --> 00:49:20.590 might seal the deal of driving up. I do think 00:49:20.590 --> 00:49:23.610 it's funny that there's some bands that you like 00:49:23.610 --> 00:49:26.349 you love and you just have to wait forever for 00:49:26.349 --> 00:49:28.750 them to come. But then I think of other bands 00:49:28.750 --> 00:49:32.030 like this year, Gable Price and Friends, like 00:49:32.030 --> 00:49:34.750 if I had like an artist of the year, like for 00:49:34.750 --> 00:49:36.969 me, that would probably be them or Colony House 00:49:36.969 --> 00:49:40.320 and literally Gable Price, like Got to see them 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.940 like within like a week or two of finding their 00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:45.300 music I think colony house started listening 00:49:45.300 --> 00:49:47.980 to them in like July and we went and saw them 00:49:47.980 --> 00:49:50.380 in October So I feel like it's funny that there's 00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:52.579 up There's some bands you wait like years to 00:49:52.579 --> 00:49:54.039 try to check them off your list and the other 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.320 ones you're like, oh that was easy I got to go 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.239 see them live. They played my favorite song. 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.380 I got to buy some merch. Yeah, it's like there 00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:04.440 you go. I'm They're off the list Yeah, that's 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:09.469 cool it's so cool and I feel like just There 00:50:09.469 --> 00:50:14.489 are bands that I never got to see that some of 00:50:14.489 --> 00:50:16.989 the nostalgia fests that have happened, like 00:50:16.989 --> 00:50:19.110 a Furnace Fest or whatever, opened the door for 00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:21.170 me to see bands that I never had the chance to 00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:27.210 see. The first Furnace Fest that I went to was 00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:29.289 able to see Mineral. It was one of my all -time 00:50:29.289 --> 00:50:33.880 favorite bands. Stretch Armstrong. I had never 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.739 seen this last one that I went to being able 00:50:37.739 --> 00:50:42.760 to see Slick Shoes. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm thankful 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.840 that so many of these bands are like still active 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.079 or will do occasional concerts. Yeah. Just kind 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.920 of giving an opportunity to to connect and and 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.820 catch up on things that we missed back in the 00:50:54.820 --> 00:50:57.219 day, which is really fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's 00:50:57.219 --> 00:51:01.519 awesome. All right. Well, let's kind of finish 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:17.420 up. talking about our lyric of the week the lyric 00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:20.340 of the week i almost forgot that it was my turn 00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:22.000 to choose because i was about to just wait for 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.179 you to be like all right uh when is it getting 00:51:24.179 --> 00:51:28.659 here um Actually, give me a second. I pulled 00:51:28.659 --> 00:51:31.800 the wrong one. It's all good I will say that 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.780 when we don't have a specific artist that we're 00:51:33.780 --> 00:51:36.559 talking about we typically like to pull from 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.840 a Starfire 59 lyric as we've talked about on 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.199 this podcast because they We got the name of 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.559 this podcast from a Starfire 59 song and they're 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.340 one of the artists that we originally Connected 00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:53.559 over so all right here we go Yeah, this is from 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.280 the I am a CEO the title track of I am a ceo, 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.940 uh, you can sail across the sea You can climb 00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:03.639 the highest peak you can build it on your own, 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.800 but you're still not in control Yeah That's a 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.599 great a great song and a great record. Um I remember 00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.780 when that one came out. Um, it actually Was the 00:52:16.780 --> 00:52:20.039 album that like drew me back into star flyer 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.840 59 really? Yeah, which is pretty cool Um, because 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.090 I had i'd been out for a few records and that 00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:28.610 one's the one that kind of pulled me back in 00:52:28.610 --> 00:52:32.449 and said no you you you love this band like spend 00:52:32.449 --> 00:52:36.150 time with them again so um that's great that's 00:52:36.150 --> 00:52:37.710 great well this has been fun getting to talk 00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:41.110 about some of our favorite experiences so i appreciate 00:52:41.110 --> 00:52:43.849 the idea brandon and it's fun getting to kind 00:52:43.849 --> 00:52:46.739 of look back and remember some of the stuff We 00:52:46.739 --> 00:52:48.840 hope that you guys will continue to join us on 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:53.219 this journey. And we actually, we have a form 00:52:53.219 --> 00:52:55.960 that if you go to our social media and you'd 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:57.659 like to come on and be a guest and talk about 00:52:57.659 --> 00:52:59.980 one of your favorite records, you can fill out 00:52:59.980 --> 00:53:02.780 that form and we'd love to have you on at some 00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:05.539 point. But we're just thankful that you're with 00:53:05.539 --> 00:53:08.199 us for the journey and excited to continue to 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:11.300 talk about some fun stuff that's coming up. And 00:53:11.300 --> 00:53:14.340 so we look forward to catching you again next 00:53:14.340 --> 00:53:20.230 week. Hey, are you listening? This ain't no quiet 00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:25.230 thing We're screaming out our lungs