WEBVTT 00:00:03.330 --> 00:00:33.420 Are you listening? Well, hey, are you listening? 00:00:33.780 --> 00:00:36.700 This is a podcast exploring the past, present 00:00:36.700 --> 00:00:39.359 and future of Christian music. My name is Joel. 00:00:39.420 --> 00:00:42.460 I'm here with my good friend Brandon. We connected 00:00:42.460 --> 00:00:46.020 over a mutual love of a few artists, but have 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:48.460 pretty different tastes when it comes to things. 00:00:48.460 --> 00:00:50.920 You might see that today. I don't know. But we 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.259 also get to experience some new artists from 00:00:53.259 --> 00:00:55.460 each other and invite some friends along for 00:00:55.460 --> 00:00:58.659 the ride. Brandon, what's going on? You were 00:00:58.659 --> 00:01:01.829 coughing a lot right before we hit record. And 00:01:01.829 --> 00:01:03.929 I was like if I got to jump into the intro be 00:01:03.929 --> 00:01:07.129 like, yeah, my name is Joel Brandon and i'm here 00:01:07.129 --> 00:01:10.150 with Brandon, uh So i'm glad that you're not 00:01:10.150 --> 00:01:12.609 choking anymore. I took a sip of my drink and 00:01:12.609 --> 00:01:15.810 uh, and it did not go down Well, and so i'm like, 00:01:15.890 --> 00:01:18.629 oh no, what's gonna happen? But thankfully thankfully 00:01:18.629 --> 00:01:20.670 everything worked out. All right, um brandon. 00:01:20.670 --> 00:01:23.269 We have a friend back with us today Um cameron 00:01:23.269 --> 00:01:26.510 from tooth and nail news is here. What's going 00:01:26.510 --> 00:01:30.420 on, man? What's up? I'm back again And excited 00:01:30.420 --> 00:01:34.439 to talk about this album. Yes, I can't wait to 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.620 get into this I'll be honest with you. This is 00:01:37.620 --> 00:01:40.299 one that I've just been waiting for the right 00:01:40.299 --> 00:01:44.079 moment for and And so it just feels like the 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.120 stars are aligning And I'm really pumped to to 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:50.579 have a conversation. So today we're talking about 00:01:50.579 --> 00:01:57.819 the album trophies by luxury and I'm just I can't 00:01:57.819 --> 00:02:00.420 wait to talk about it. I can't wait. Um, hopefully 00:02:00.420 --> 00:02:03.180 for like this episode coming out to cause more 00:02:03.180 --> 00:02:06.239 people to actually go listen to it and, um, and 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.740 give it a shot. Um, so yeah, I'm looking forward 00:02:09.740 --> 00:02:11.939 to digging into that in just a little bit. So, 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.099 but before we do that, let's check the mail. 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.740 All right, today's question comes from friend 00:02:29.740 --> 00:02:35.780 of the show Charlotte and it's this if and when 00:02:35.780 --> 00:02:40.699 We all you guys have kids And what is the thing 00:02:40.699 --> 00:02:43.099 that you want to share with them or pass down 00:02:43.099 --> 00:02:45.919 to them? Something that you love musically about 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:51.819 music, an artist, an album, a genre, a label 00:02:51.819 --> 00:02:55.219 like what do you want to pass down to your kids 00:02:55.219 --> 00:03:03.759 musically? The obvious answer for me would be 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.590 tooth and nail, but there is a specific. Album, 00:03:06.629 --> 00:03:09.150 I'm gonna pick out. Okay, and that is cities 00:03:09.150 --> 00:03:12.909 by amberlin. Awesome There's another reason I'm 00:03:12.909 --> 00:03:16.650 not going to get into here, but As seen as I 00:03:16.650 --> 00:03:19.090 am about to have my first kid. This was a great 00:03:19.090 --> 00:03:23.449 question for me and She has reacted very well 00:03:23.449 --> 00:03:25.990 to amberlin in the womb. So that's been cool. 00:03:26.330 --> 00:03:30.569 So I Proud dad moment there, you know, I love 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:34.360 so yeah, that's really awesome What what age 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.699 like is that just like uh as a newborn you're 00:03:36.699 --> 00:03:38.800 like, all right, we're gonna listen to this album 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.599 Or is it like oh, yeah all the time all the time 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.039 all the time Now let's stop us and be playing 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.099 in my house but what's cool about that for you 00:03:47.099 --> 00:03:50.620 though is um from our previous conversation with 00:03:50.620 --> 00:03:53.400 you cameron, um Your dad passed that love down 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.759 to you. And so it's like a it's like a family 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.479 thing at this point You just keep passing it 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.879 from generation to generation yep awesome i'd 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:05.479 love to see it i think that's amazing brandon 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:10.719 i think the maybe the two that that i think of 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.620 because i i feel like for for me it's gonna be 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:17.379 like here's a whole like cd booklet because it's 00:04:17.379 --> 00:04:19.800 gonna be like like when uh when i first started 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.180 going to uh youth group like um knowing their 00:04:23.180 --> 00:04:25.259 new christian music and so like my best friend 00:04:25.259 --> 00:04:28.339 keith we had him on a few weeks ago and he was 00:04:28.339 --> 00:04:30.540 like, man, I want to find, like, good Christian 00:04:30.540 --> 00:04:32.459 music, because all I know is that you either 00:04:32.459 --> 00:04:34.899 have Christian music or good music. And I remember 00:04:34.899 --> 00:04:37.000 giving him, like, 10 different CDs, because I 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:38.959 was a big believer in, like, well, you have to 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.519 find your person. But I feel like if I, like, 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.740 right now, I'm kind of thinking, like, maybe, 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.939 like, teenager, because I feel like a two -year 00:04:47.939 --> 00:04:50.120 -old's not really going to get me without you. 00:04:51.300 --> 00:04:53.480 I think that the two albums that come to mind 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.620 is, like, Brother, Sister, but Be Without You. 00:04:56.779 --> 00:04:59.860 Because I think that like I don't know what my 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:02.980 Mount Rushmore albums are, but I feel like immediately 00:05:02.980 --> 00:05:04.920 that there's no way that doesn't make it onto 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.180 there. Right. And I think it's just everything 00:05:07.180 --> 00:05:09.740 about it is just like perfect. And I feel like 00:05:09.740 --> 00:05:11.639 it'd be so cool to sit down with someone who 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.319 also appreciates that or it helps them or whatever. 00:05:15.459 --> 00:05:17.300 And then I think the other one that comes to 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:20.759 mind is Gable Price and Friends, Jungle in the 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:23.360 City. Like we, I think it was the first album 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:27.379 I ever gave a five -star uh review on here um 00:05:27.379 --> 00:05:30.100 and i think that album it still is just something 00:05:30.100 --> 00:05:33.079 that like once a week like i'll listen to and 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.959 i feel like the song still like hit me and i 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:38.000 think it's just you know i feel like for y 'all 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.160 it's the same way like when there's a a song 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:43.220 or an album that you've listened to a hundred 00:05:43.220 --> 00:05:46.139 times but you're like man this still like either 00:05:46.139 --> 00:05:48.620 gets me excited or it almost brings me to tears 00:05:48.620 --> 00:05:51.439 like when it still gets that emotion even though 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.589 you know every like you know every lyric, you 00:05:54.589 --> 00:05:57.250 know everything that's like gonna be there, you 00:05:57.250 --> 00:06:01.149 still are like uh hit by it and I feel like those 00:06:01.149 --> 00:06:04.269 are two that like Brother Sister was like kind 00:06:04.269 --> 00:06:09.069 of this um like in in college like starting college 00:06:09.069 --> 00:06:11.810 so it impacted me a lot I think in like build 00:06:11.810 --> 00:06:15.050 like doing that um and I think Gable Price and 00:06:15.050 --> 00:06:16.810 Friends is something that's just been like a 00:06:16.810 --> 00:06:19.550 new thing that's hit And I'm just not realizing 00:06:19.550 --> 00:06:20.990 I've been talking a lot, so I'm going to hand 00:06:20.990 --> 00:06:24.449 it over to Joel now. No, it's good stuff. Those 00:06:24.449 --> 00:06:28.290 are great picks. So I have two daughters, 11 00:06:28.290 --> 00:06:31.610 and 12, and I feel like I'm actively trying to 00:06:31.610 --> 00:06:35.449 figure out how to do this with them. And obviously 00:06:35.449 --> 00:06:39.310 they've been around. I feel like good music their 00:06:39.310 --> 00:06:40.930 whole lives because I've been it's kind of been 00:06:40.930 --> 00:06:43.189 the background of everything right that we that 00:06:43.189 --> 00:06:47.060 we do. There's always music playing. And so because 00:06:47.060 --> 00:06:50.160 of that they they do like instinctively love 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.779 some some things But there are also things that 00:06:53.779 --> 00:06:55.740 I'll like turn on and play and they're like dad 00:06:56.250 --> 00:07:00.009 Like, what is this? I don't want to hear Zao. 00:07:00.569 --> 00:07:03.569 And so they're just not like super into it. And 00:07:03.569 --> 00:07:06.069 so it's become this thing where I'm like, I've 00:07:06.069 --> 00:07:09.509 got to grab onto the right opportunities to get 00:07:09.509 --> 00:07:12.769 them to enjoy something that's good. And so you 00:07:12.769 --> 00:07:15.209 have to be strategic about it. So it's like we 00:07:15.209 --> 00:07:17.629 we do movie nights on Friday nights. And so. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:21.879 A couple months ago, I picked out the movie a 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:25.439 walk to remember. And so which is like a switch 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.819 foot soundtrack, basically. Yeah. And and many 00:07:28.819 --> 00:07:31.779 more even sings the song only hope off their 00:07:31.779 --> 00:07:35.560 second record on there. And and so I play this 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:38.720 and and they watch the movie and like she finishes 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.540 singing the song and they're like, oh, that song's 00:07:40.540 --> 00:07:44.189 so beautiful. And I'm like, OK. It's working. 00:07:44.750 --> 00:07:47.430 It's funny you say that. And then like two days 00:07:47.430 --> 00:07:50.810 later in the car, I'm like playing the second 00:07:50.810 --> 00:07:53.610 Switchfoot record and that song comes on and 00:07:53.610 --> 00:07:56.310 they're like, this is the song. Dad, this is 00:07:56.310 --> 00:07:58.470 the song. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, this band 00:07:58.470 --> 00:08:01.189 did the soundtrack for the movie and blah, blah, 00:08:01.230 --> 00:08:03.629 blah, blah. And so then all of a sudden they're 00:08:03.629 --> 00:08:05.550 like get in the car and they'll be like, can 00:08:05.550 --> 00:08:07.250 we play some Switchfoot? And I'm like, yeah, 00:08:07.350 --> 00:08:09.930 we can. Um, and so it's like subtle things. You 00:08:09.930 --> 00:08:11.730 have to like sneak it in because if you're just 00:08:11.730 --> 00:08:14.930 like outright about it, they'll be like, Oh dad. 00:08:16.870 --> 00:08:19.990 Um, my only, I feel like moment, other moment 00:08:19.990 --> 00:08:23.189 of success was, um, with five iron frenzy with 00:08:23.189 --> 00:08:26.750 my oldest. Um, and I took the time we were listening 00:08:26.750 --> 00:08:31.089 to the quantity is job one EP. And I took the 00:08:31.089 --> 00:08:34.529 time to explain to her what the song dandelions 00:08:34.529 --> 00:08:38.250 meant before I played it for. and then I played 00:08:38.250 --> 00:08:41.250 it and it was on a like a ride home from youth 00:08:41.250 --> 00:08:44.710 group one night and she was like this song I 00:08:44.710 --> 00:08:46.250 feel like it was like the first time where she 00:08:46.250 --> 00:08:49.830 like got like the depth of something that can 00:08:49.830 --> 00:08:54.669 like be in a song and So yeah, so that's where 00:08:54.669 --> 00:08:56.529 I am just because those are the two successes 00:08:56.529 --> 00:08:59.289 that I've had so far But there hopefully are 00:08:59.289 --> 00:09:01.950 many more of those moments in the future. So 00:09:01.950 --> 00:09:03.789 we'll see how maybe maybe I should have brought 00:09:03.789 --> 00:09:07.220 this up on the last episode, but I don't really 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:09.279 remember the moment that it happened, but you 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:10.899 know, I said I had a DC talk phase and stuff 00:09:10.899 --> 00:09:12.379 and then I remember going to my dad and being 00:09:12.379 --> 00:09:13.720 like, you know, I like a thousand foot crushing 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:17.159 POD. And he was like, it's over. The DC talk 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:18.980 phase is over. We're going to listen to good 00:09:18.980 --> 00:09:23.879 music now. That's great. I love it. I love it. 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:25.259 All right. Well, don't forget, guys, you can 00:09:25.259 --> 00:09:27.480 reach out to us with your questions or thoughts 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.820 for the podcast at heyareuelisteningpodatgmail 00:09:30.820 --> 00:09:32.820 .com. And we'd love to hear them and love to 00:09:32.820 --> 00:09:36.970 talk about them. um on the air so with that we 00:09:36.970 --> 00:09:54.370 are going to play a game all right well we are 00:09:54.370 --> 00:10:00.779 playing a game of 20 questions um Christian Music 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:02.899 20 questions with you guys. I'm pretty excited 00:10:02.899 --> 00:10:06.940 about this. I'm digging into it with you. I finally 00:10:06.940 --> 00:10:10.159 get to pick something that maybe is a little 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.720 more obscure than some of the other things because 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.360 because we've got a curator on the podcast. Um, 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.480 so I'm pretty pumped to dig into this today. 00:10:20.539 --> 00:10:23.639 But, um, basically how this works is I give you 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:27.139 guys 20 questions and you get to ask me any yes 00:10:27.139 --> 00:10:30.679 or no questions and work your way down, um, to 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.600 see if you can figure out what album is in my 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.519 head. And so I am, um, I'm just pulling up some 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.000 info here to make sure I don't mess anything 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.480 up and I've got it right. And, uh, yeah, let's 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:46.500 take it away. Ask away. Um, was it released? 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.940 before 2000. Brandon, it's the first time you 00:10:49.940 --> 00:10:53.559 haven't asked a different question as your first 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:57.259 question. Yes, this album was released before 00:10:57.259 --> 00:11:03.620 2000. Okay. I gotta think of a good question, 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.100 man. I'd say if you don't step in, I'm gonna 00:11:06.100 --> 00:11:12.659 start asking really nonsensical ones. Is this 00:11:12.659 --> 00:11:20.899 rock or rock adjacent? Yes, yes Was it released 00:11:20.899 --> 00:11:26.559 through tooth and now yes Not only nails it down 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:32.779 to a couple thousand Actually Cameron may know 00:11:32.779 --> 00:11:34.740 how many teeth the nail releases there Ben I 00:11:34.740 --> 00:11:44.919 don't know You can keep going with questions. 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:58.480 I don't have a good one Is it Is is it is it 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:15.139 a solo artist No I was gonna like Yeah, the answer 00:12:15.139 --> 00:12:18.299 is no. Is this band still actively making music? 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:33.980 Good question. Yes. Okay. Are they still a part 00:12:33.980 --> 00:12:41.980 of Tooth & No? Or maybe? Technically, the answer 00:12:41.980 --> 00:12:47.909 I think is no. okay i have a hunch but i don't 00:12:47.909 --> 00:12:51.610 want to i don't know how many questions are at 00:12:51.610 --> 00:12:56.330 it uh i think you guys have asked like six questions 00:12:56.330 --> 00:13:02.570 okay is there a number in the band yes oh okay 00:13:02.570 --> 00:13:06.299 that's seven okay Like how I immediately think 00:13:06.299 --> 00:13:08.360 oh, there's only one band whereas Cameron's probably 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:20.919 like, oh, no, there's Is this podcast named after 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.500 the band Yes Okay, let's say you know, what's 00:13:26.500 --> 00:13:31.340 really sad Joel is that I'm Don't know if I know 00:13:31.340 --> 00:13:38.639 any of the names of that Is the album cover gold 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:45.440 no If you were said yes, I was gonna have a second 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:51.240 That doesn't totally narrow it down is is the 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.480 You could tell me if this is a fair question 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:59.320 or not. Is the album named after a color? No 00:14:03.619 --> 00:14:06.299 Okay, okay, I think it puts us down to like two 00:14:06.299 --> 00:14:12.679 or three Maybe now there's more releases and 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.639 I remember that dude was just pumping out music 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:20.379 in the 90s. Yeah Although I don't think I think 00:14:20.379 --> 00:14:23.840 you're right there weren't that many pre -2000 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:31.860 is is the album Primarily red on the cover. No. 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:37.740 Oh I Feel like right now I'm like playing like 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:41.019 putt -putt and I'm like Right there by the hole 00:14:41.019 --> 00:14:44.740 and I keep trying to circling Does the cover 00:14:44.740 --> 00:14:47.120 feature like the front of the cover feature the 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:52.679 tooth and nail logo? Yes, okay safely put my 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.700 guess and then I think I'm gonna hand this over 00:14:57.860 --> 00:15:00.279 Alright, just go ahead for it for this the fashion 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.379 focus by star flyer. Yes, it is. Good job That's 00:15:03.379 --> 00:15:05.779 13. I had to double check because there's like 00:15:05.779 --> 00:15:08.580 an EP I think that had the thing on it, but it 00:15:08.580 --> 00:15:13.580 does not gotcha Yeah, okay cool album cover. 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.720 Yeah but also This is this one's up there for 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.500 me in the star flyer catalog. It's one of my 00:15:20.500 --> 00:15:24.320 favorites. So Yeah, good job guys. You got there. 00:15:24.379 --> 00:15:28.059 I am impressed only 13 questions. So That's the 00:15:28.059 --> 00:15:32.299 most stressed i've been all day Good to know 00:15:32.299 --> 00:15:34.539 i'm thankful that we can uh, we can cause that 00:15:34.539 --> 00:15:37.299 to happen here on. Hey, are you listening? All 00:15:37.299 --> 00:15:40.659 right real quick fast is there Is it an ep they 00:15:40.659 --> 00:15:42.240 released wasn't there one with like a truck on 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.919 it? Or am I imagining that there is one with 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:48.840 a truck on it. That is uh Can't stop eating is 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.240 that what it's called? Can't stop eating ep. 00:15:50.419 --> 00:15:53.940 Yep That was in the early 2000s, I think. Fashion 00:15:53.940 --> 00:15:58.019 Focus is a full length, although before they 00:15:58.019 --> 00:16:00.799 released it, they did put out a Fell in Love 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.480 at 22 EP. Yep. That's the EP I was thinking of. 00:16:03.500 --> 00:16:07.899 Yeah. And that song went on to be on Fashion 00:16:07.899 --> 00:16:10.679 Focus, but it was kind of like a teaser, I think, 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.679 for the record to put out an EP first. So great 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.570 EP, great song, great record. All right. Let's 00:16:18.570 --> 00:16:20.490 talk about what we've been listening to lately. 00:16:20.570 --> 00:16:22.590 What's what's something you guys have been spending 00:16:22.590 --> 00:16:26.830 time with? I can go first. For me, there's two 00:16:26.830 --> 00:16:31.470 that stand out. It's two that you've mentioned. 00:16:31.850 --> 00:16:35.649 First is Idle Threat. So I've been like diving 00:16:35.649 --> 00:16:39.009 in them a little bit and then Strings and Heart. 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:42.529 And it was funny because you mentioned them. 00:16:43.099 --> 00:16:45.919 Then like it didn't click like till afterwards 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.120 it like oh, that's who I was listening to yeah, 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.240 and um, I think they just showed up on my kind 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.539 of like algorithm popped up and I I just love 00:16:55.539 --> 00:16:57.659 whenever you find someone who's like though. 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:01.879 This is this is different and so I Really enjoyed 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.000 getting to dive into um to them and uh, jordan's 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.079 even enjoyed like getting to listen to them So 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.079 I don't think I realized that it was three brothers, 00:17:09.099 --> 00:17:11.700 but it is yeah, which is pretty cool I saw them 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:14.480 live this past summer at a festival here in ohio 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.420 and Killer show like this stage. It was one of 00:17:17.420 --> 00:17:20.660 the side ones There had been just like a moderate 00:17:20.660 --> 00:17:22.319 amount of people there and then they came on 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:25.740 the stage was crowded while My wife and I were 00:17:25.740 --> 00:17:27.319 sitting there watching like they should be on 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:28.940 the main stage Well sure enough they got announced 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:30.259 for the festival this year and they're playing 00:17:30.259 --> 00:17:31.940 the main stage. I'm like good for them. That's 00:17:31.940 --> 00:17:34.079 awesome That's really cool. That's really cool. 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.740 It's just great to see like new Christian indie 00:17:36.740 --> 00:17:39.700 bands Because there's not much of that out there. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:45.460 So I love that I have been listening to the album 00:17:45.460 --> 00:17:47.519 how to start a fire the first seems forever. 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.240 Come on It's been on my rotation recently and 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.589 then Singularity by May Mm -hmm. I love those 00:17:53.589 --> 00:17:57.029 albums a lot two great records Follow -up question. 00:17:57.049 --> 00:17:58.930 What's your favorite for the record? And what's 00:17:58.930 --> 00:18:02.009 your favorite May record? It both of those. Okay, 00:18:02.190 --> 00:18:04.170 awesome. Yeah, how to certify I love the Jason 00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:07.230 Gleason for this stuff and then I love singularity. 00:18:07.309 --> 00:18:12.390 I think it's a cool album. I am My so my band 00:18:12.390 --> 00:18:20.750 We played We were at I think it was purple door 00:18:20.750 --> 00:18:25.349 fest I'm trying to remember where um I think 00:18:25.349 --> 00:18:27.529 it was Jason Gleason's first show with Further 00:18:27.529 --> 00:18:33.410 um and I got to see that and then um and then 00:18:33.410 --> 00:18:36.410 they they came through our hometown and we got 00:18:36.410 --> 00:18:39.150 to play with them not too long after he joined 00:18:39.150 --> 00:18:41.869 the band I don't I don't think that how to start 00:18:41.869 --> 00:18:46.630 a fire was out yet at that point but um but um 00:18:46.630 --> 00:18:48.329 they were playing some of the songs and doing 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:50.750 a lot of the moon is down too so that's cool 00:18:50.750 --> 00:18:53.519 yeah Love he got to perform with him again at 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.920 furnace fest didn't he? Oh, yeah. Yeah back. 00:18:56.059 --> 00:18:59.299 Yeah, it's really cool. I saw him both times 00:18:59.299 --> 00:19:02.200 So I'm twice like at a pre -show a year and a 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:05.299 half ago and then at a regular show That's cool 00:19:05.299 --> 00:19:07.640 back from there. So yeah. Yeah, that's really 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.980 awesome For me guys, I'm I'm struggling to like 00:19:11.980 --> 00:19:16.859 find new stuff this year so far And so there's 00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:21.450 not much that I can consider new, um, I'll, I'll 00:19:21.450 --> 00:19:25.869 give, I'll give a throw out to, um, kind of what 00:19:25.869 --> 00:19:27.950 would be like a classic answer for a lot of people. 00:19:28.109 --> 00:19:33.069 There's a new U2 EP and, and so it didn't automatically 00:19:33.069 --> 00:19:36.549 appear in my iTunes, like some of their previous 00:19:36.549 --> 00:19:40.069 stuff, but, um, days of ash EP, it seems like 00:19:40.069 --> 00:19:43.450 pretty quickly put together little EP, um, because 00:19:43.450 --> 00:19:45.910 it's very of the times and speaking to what's 00:19:45.910 --> 00:19:48.950 kind of going on in our country, but, um, But 00:19:48.950 --> 00:19:52.089 it's pretty good. And so I've enjoyed the little 00:19:52.089 --> 00:19:53.990 bit that I get to listen to. And I'm always going 00:19:53.990 --> 00:19:56.650 to count you two as Christian music. So yeah, 00:19:57.890 --> 00:20:01.730 yeah, we'll see. All right. Well, we're going 00:20:01.730 --> 00:20:04.130 to get into what we're here to talk about today. 00:20:04.130 --> 00:20:08.470 And that is the album Trophies by the band Luxury. 00:20:12.970 --> 00:20:15.970 Alright, so just a little bit of information 00:20:15.970 --> 00:20:18.829 About this record and then we can kind of talk 00:20:18.829 --> 00:20:21.009 about maybe some things in the background to 00:20:21.009 --> 00:20:23.650 you But the album trophies by the band luxury 00:20:23.650 --> 00:20:28.369 was officially released on June 14th 2019 I think 00:20:28.369 --> 00:20:32.430 several years after it was recorded Following 00:20:32.430 --> 00:20:34.849 a limited initial release and crowdfunding campaign 00:20:34.849 --> 00:20:38.250 in 2014. It was recorded at glow -in -the -dark 00:20:38.250 --> 00:20:42.319 studios in Atlanta, Georgia Produced and engineered 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:46.900 by Matt Goldman We've got ten tracks This album 00:20:46.900 --> 00:20:49.500 is characterized by angular guitar work reminiscent 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:52.920 of early post -punk balanced by lush melodic 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:58.539 arrangements featuring piano and strings Yes, 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.519 so let's let's talk a little bit about our history 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:04.920 with luxury or maybe this this record Cameron, 00:21:04.940 --> 00:21:09.160 how did this come across your ears? I honestly 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:12.359 hadn't Done much with luxury. I like obviously 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.400 I was not alive when they were in their prime. 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:20.180 I think they quit the year I was born so But 00:21:20.180 --> 00:21:22.140 as I was getting into doing tooth and nail stuff 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:24.720 even before I started the page I was started 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:26.079 listening to their stuff. I was like, yeah, this 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.220 is good. It was just something I love the energy 00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:32.740 of it all that yeah Yeah, I just think they're 00:21:32.740 --> 00:21:35.019 really cool band They do really unique stuff 00:21:35.019 --> 00:21:37.579 and I'm all about finding super unique artists, 00:21:37.579 --> 00:21:39.779 especially being kind of a super underrated band, 00:21:39.779 --> 00:21:44.099 too Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Um, yeah, I, I, 00:21:44.180 --> 00:21:48.980 um, I think the first record that I ever listened 00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:52.220 to by luxury, I probably heard some of the early 00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:54.339 stuff on like samplers and stuff from teeth and 00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:58.440 L. Um, but I don't think it grabbed my attention 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.660 until somehow I picked up their, um, their third 00:22:01.660 --> 00:22:05.079 record, their self titled record luxury on, um, 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.500 that was on bulletproof records and immediately. 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.660 Just like this is one of the best albums that 00:22:11.660 --> 00:22:17.339 I've ever heard got super drawn into it and Really 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:20.019 enjoyed it and that drove me like back to their 00:22:20.019 --> 00:22:23.859 category Back to their catalog. Sorry and getting 00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:27.140 to know all of their stuff and it's fun too because 00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:30.539 that I might have heard that record for the first 00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:34.140 time because my band Bellador that I was in. 00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:37.220 We recorded with Goldman at glow in the dark 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:40.359 in Atlanta. Goldman is awesome. Yeah. And so 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.539 I think that he probably played it for us. And 00:22:43.539 --> 00:22:46.059 that's maybe what what like really drew me into 00:22:46.059 --> 00:22:50.240 it. And then I went and picked it up. But man, 00:22:50.579 --> 00:22:53.019 yeah, I just I fell in love with that album. 00:22:53.019 --> 00:22:55.240 And then it's kind of like interesting because 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.420 they kind of disappeared a little bit after that. 00:22:57.500 --> 00:23:00.740 I somehow missed their next record, Health and 00:23:00.740 --> 00:23:02.779 Sport, because I think it was just self -released 00:23:02.779 --> 00:23:06.819 and it never came across my radar. And the next 00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:10.380 thing that I saw from them was, I think in 2014, 00:23:10.819 --> 00:23:16.539 they had this crowdfunding campaign for the Parallel 00:23:16.539 --> 00:23:21.160 Love documentary and trophies, this album. And 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:25.740 I'm like, oh, luxury, yes. And so I kickstarted 00:23:25.740 --> 00:23:29.680 or whatever back then. um crowdfunded it um and 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.900 uh and so I was able to like get the album like 00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:35.579 downloadable with like way before it it was actually 00:23:35.579 --> 00:23:40.440 finally released in 2019 but um but immediately 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:45.099 just like fell in love with this record so Brandon 00:23:45.099 --> 00:23:50.660 you what's your history uh none um no whenever 00:23:50.660 --> 00:23:54.420 um whenever you'd reach out about like um Cameron 00:23:54.420 --> 00:23:57.410 um wanting to come on uh you'd given me a list 00:23:57.410 --> 00:23:59.470 of kind of like oh yeah here's what he's like 00:23:59.470 --> 00:24:02.950 interested in and um this was one of the ones 00:24:02.950 --> 00:24:07.069 that i had never heard of and um and honestly 00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:10.029 i was telling someone earlier i feel like sometimes 00:24:10.029 --> 00:24:12.309 it's more exciting to dive into something you've 00:24:12.309 --> 00:24:15.250 never heard versus talking about something that 00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:18.049 you love like i feel like almost like sometimes 00:24:18.049 --> 00:24:20.450 for me it's a challenge to sit down like if you 00:24:20.809 --> 00:24:22.509 if we were to sit down and talk about like a 00:24:22.509 --> 00:24:24.849 Toby Mack album from like my childhood that impacted 00:24:24.849 --> 00:24:27.809 me. I feel like it's almost more of a struggle, 00:24:28.089 --> 00:24:32.490 but at the same time, and I think like this it's 00:24:32.490 --> 00:24:35.309 kind of gonna show like in the review, I think 00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:38.869 that what I learned was this is a band that the 00:24:38.869 --> 00:24:41.069 more you listen to, the more you're going to 00:24:41.069 --> 00:24:46.230 enjoy it, and so I think that's pretty cool. 00:24:46.730 --> 00:24:49.250 it's good and bad is that i feel like it's cool 00:24:49.250 --> 00:24:52.809 when you have like you know like for y 'all let's 00:24:52.809 --> 00:24:56.150 man this album that we love let's dive into it 00:24:56.150 --> 00:24:58.150 and then for me it's like here's someone who's 00:24:58.150 --> 00:25:00.549 never listened to this um but i think also it 00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:02.849 doesn't do it justice because i feel like you 00:25:02.849 --> 00:25:04.589 know like before recording i was saying that 00:25:04.589 --> 00:25:07.190 if you talk to me five months from now there's 00:25:07.190 --> 00:25:09.809 a good chance i would be on the like oh man like 00:25:09.809 --> 00:25:11.910 i understand what he's saying with this and that 00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.849 and um so yeah so i think it's it's pretty interesting 00:25:15.849 --> 00:25:18.750 to kind of see how it matches up with y 'all's 00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:20.849 reviews off of someone who like knows the band 00:25:20.849 --> 00:25:23.309 and knows like hey here's what he believes versus 00:25:23.309 --> 00:25:25.450 me being like i don't know what he's trying to 00:25:25.450 --> 00:25:29.369 say or whatever well if it makes you feel better 00:25:29.369 --> 00:25:31.549 i don't always know what he's trying to say either 00:25:31.549 --> 00:25:35.589 i think that he's cryptic on purpose in a lot 00:25:35.589 --> 00:25:38.609 of ways it's funny i was watching i just re -watched 00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:42.230 This week in preparation for this the documentary 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:45.150 parallel of just to be ready to talk through 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:49.410 it and What I think's hilarious about it is is 00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:51.470 like people have all these cryptic questions 00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:53.769 about it and at some points He's like, I mean, 00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:55.569 that's not what I was trying to say. I don't 00:25:55.569 --> 00:25:57.750 know. It's just this like this is really plain 00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:02.259 thing but then sometimes it's like super complex 00:26:02.259 --> 00:26:05.720 and the lyrics are gorgeous and beautiful but 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:07.839 sometimes it is hard to kind of get to the meaning 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.740 get to the meaning behind them but i think that 00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:13.720 that's like that's what good writing does yeah 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.039 is it creates creates a puzzle that you kind 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.720 of have to put together um to get there and so 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.039 i it's one of the things that i that i love about 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.599 this band yeah He's got a document going through 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.759 like his thoughts behind each of the lyrics for 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:29.940 the album And I was like, you know, it's been 00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:31.200 a while, but I remember going through i'm like 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:32.599 i'm gonna read this i'm gonna understand these 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.539 songs more And there was a couple i'm like, okay. 00:26:34.660 --> 00:26:36.420 Yeah, I get it. There's a few i'm still like 00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:38.839 Yep, this explained nothing. I still do not understand 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.619 what the song is entirely about I need to find 00:26:41.619 --> 00:26:44.519 that I'll have to see if I can find it. Yeah. 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:48.660 Yeah, um, it's a cool read Yeah, it's cool. Um, 00:26:48.779 --> 00:26:51.720 I we haven't talked at all either about These 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.880 guys are involved in so many different music 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:58.039 projects and Lee their lead singer has done some 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:02.299 incredible solo work to you Yeah, I love he has 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:05.279 one EP that he put out called the majesty of 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.799 the flesh, which I think is like That song is 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.299 in my purview like one of the greatest songs 00:27:11.299 --> 00:27:15.519 ever written and it's it's just beautiful and 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.240 awesome and but anyways such a good such a good 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.400 band so um all right any other opening thoughts 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.160 you guys have before we kind of get into track 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:28.940 by track i'm just excited cool all right well 00:27:28.940 --> 00:27:32.200 let's dig into it and we'll start with track 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:37.119 one ginsberg reading howl you can tell already 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.140 that uh from just from the track title that there's 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:43.859 a little pretentiousness about uh about Luxury 00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:49.839 songwriting it fits the name luxury. Yes Um, 00:27:50.180 --> 00:27:53.839 I can go first, um, I really like the fade in 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:57.579 um You know, like I feel like if I was at a concert 00:27:57.579 --> 00:28:00.579 And I heard this start like playing like I would 00:28:00.579 --> 00:28:01.819 you know, we were talking about like being like 00:28:01.819 --> 00:28:03.680 at a festival I feel like if I was over here 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.519 getting like a hot dog and I started hearing 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.599 this play I'd be like, oh, let me go see what's 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.720 happening over here. And um You know like I I 00:28:11.789 --> 00:28:14.049 i feel like i say it every time but i feel like 00:28:14.049 --> 00:28:17.589 it is worth repeating that like i think that 00:28:17.589 --> 00:28:20.450 when you don't know a band there are albums i 00:28:20.450 --> 00:28:24.089 picked up before where i start playing it and 00:28:24.089 --> 00:28:26.369 it's like i'm gonna search or i was thinking 00:28:26.369 --> 00:28:28.289 about an album last night that i was like yeah 00:28:28.289 --> 00:28:30.589 i was like track seven ten and like eleven that 00:28:30.589 --> 00:28:34.490 i loved and i was like man like i never i never 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:36.150 listened to the other ones because it was always 00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:37.930 just i know the ones i like so i'm gonna skip 00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:40.890 above them and i think that it's it's always 00:28:40.890 --> 00:28:43.130 a good sign when you've never listened to something 00:28:43.130 --> 00:28:46.529 and you're not like let me let me go to like 00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:49.349 the popular song or you know Joel mentioned this 00:28:49.349 --> 00:28:50.990 one's a great song so i'm gonna skip these other 00:28:50.990 --> 00:28:54.430 ones that aren't as good um so yeah i it definitely 00:28:54.430 --> 00:28:57.440 was I want to sit down and listen to this not 00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.779 what if I got myself into yeah, I feel like that's 00:28:59.779 --> 00:29:03.500 always a good Mark of a song We'll go with that. 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:06.059 That's good. That's good camera. What do you 00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.200 think? Yeah, I mean like you're saying like this 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.880 is a hard album Like I can't I have a hard time 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.839 listening to just one or two songs. I gotta listen 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.619 to the whole album But to know gigs Ginsburg 00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:17.119 reading how it's one of my favorites off the 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.759 album I think it's it's a great opening track 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.599 and I love the lyrics of the song and I just 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.750 love I don't it's It's such a cool way to open 00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:28.269 an album because it really showcases a lot of 00:29:28.269 --> 00:29:31.750 what the band can do. Yeah, and It's good to 00:29:31.750 --> 00:29:33.269 have that fast -paced song because there's a 00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:34.650 lot of moments on this album that are really 00:29:34.650 --> 00:29:36.849 slow They're just as great, but they're really 00:29:36.849 --> 00:29:40.950 slow and cool contrast of that. Mm -hmm Yeah, 00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:44.980 I think I could say so many things about this, 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.000 but you get a picture of who the band is in so 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.960 many different ways on the song. I love that 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.740 you have this, like just, it's not even really 00:29:55.740 --> 00:29:59.240 the song, like intro that's fading into it, but 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:04.099 the song really begins with the words. and that 00:30:04.099 --> 00:30:06.480 opening line and then you like lock into the 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.859 song and I just felt like that's such a creative 00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:11.599 like people don't do that really like we have 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.839 to build these musical intros and then we start 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.000 singing down the road but I love how the album 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.799 really begins with like lyrics you know it like 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.000 kicks into it with the vocals and so I think 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.420 it's cool for sure I do think that you you do 00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:27.160 I mentioned a second ago but you get a sense 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:32.480 of like his lyric writing on this and anyone 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.619 who's like quoting I'm talking about Ginsburg 00:30:35.619 --> 00:30:38.680 reading how like you can tell there's there's 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.039 like this like I said the word pretentiousness 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.269 to it but It reminds me a little bit of like 00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:47.450 the band vampire weekend where you're just like, 00:30:47.670 --> 00:30:49.750 okay, like the lyrics are like they're they're 00:30:49.750 --> 00:30:53.569 up here In a lot of ways and they're complex 00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:56.130 and they're complicated and um, and you've got 00:30:56.130 --> 00:30:58.670 to figure out what's going on but they're so 00:30:58.670 --> 00:31:02.410 good and they're so well written and um You get 00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:06.069 a showcase of The drums and oh my goodness, the 00:31:06.069 --> 00:31:09.410 drumming on this record is just crazy, especially 00:31:09.410 --> 00:31:12.450 the song. Specifically, the drums are crazy good. 00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:16.049 It's insane. I don't know how he does what he 00:31:16.049 --> 00:31:21.309 does and stays in it. But he's been consistent 00:31:21.309 --> 00:31:24.690 on each record, too, is how good he is. Yeah. 00:31:24.970 --> 00:31:28.160 One of my favorite drummers, for sure. And, uh, 00:31:28.180 --> 00:31:30.839 and then you also, I could say so many things. 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.900 You, you get a sense of the guitars. This is 00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:37.559 a guitar record. Um, and the guitars on this 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.039 album are just unbelievable and so thoughtful 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.839 and the parts are so good. And, um, and all that. 00:31:44.980 --> 00:31:48.299 And then you get to hear Lee Bozeman sing and, 00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:51.779 and then I'm just like lost in his voice. Um, 00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:55.009 yeah. I'm gonna repeat myself with all these 00:31:55.009 --> 00:31:56.849 things as we get through this record because 00:31:56.849 --> 00:31:59.190 I just love them But yeah, I agree with you guys. 00:31:59.190 --> 00:32:01.710 This is a great a great first track. Yeah, so 00:32:01.710 --> 00:32:06.950 next up we move into parallel love What your 00:32:06.950 --> 00:32:10.309 thoughts on that one Cameron? You know, I'll 00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:12.490 be honest of all the songs. It's probably my 00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:13.910 least favorite which I know it's usually the 00:32:13.910 --> 00:32:16.309 popular pick off the album Not that it's bad. 00:32:16.329 --> 00:32:19.329 Like I love this song. Yeah, I just I don't know 00:32:19.329 --> 00:32:21.470 I don't get into as much as the other ones like 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.660 But it's a very driving track. It keeps taking 00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:28.200 you. But it does a good job of going from the 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.940 fast pace of Good Inspiration Hell. And it slows 00:32:30.940 --> 00:32:33.160 down just enough that it doesn't feel like when 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.299 you get into the next track, you're like, whoa, 00:32:36.299 --> 00:32:39.059 we just slowed way down. We're on a whole different 00:32:39.059 --> 00:32:43.119 vibe. It's a really good, intermittent track. 00:32:44.059 --> 00:32:48.359 Yeah. Yeah. I love Parallel Love. I think the 00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.410 first... The first time I ever heard it probably 00:32:50.410 --> 00:32:53.309 was watching the documentary. And I'm just like, 00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:55.690 what in the world is that song? Like I want this 00:32:55.690 --> 00:33:00.829 album. The guitar, like the guitars are so heavy 00:33:00.829 --> 00:33:04.890 on this. And it's something that Luxury does, 00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:08.750 which is crazy because they're not like a heavy 00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:13.109 band, but yet they do this guitar work. um like 00:33:13.109 --> 00:33:15.670 this there's just this play between these like 00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:19.710 heavy big thick guitars and then just like lee's 00:33:19.710 --> 00:33:23.289 voice which is such an interesting interplay 00:33:23.289 --> 00:33:26.410 that you just don't get from a lot of bands and 00:33:26.410 --> 00:33:28.009 that's one of the things that i love so much 00:33:28.009 --> 00:33:30.230 about them but i love that i love the guitar 00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:32.630 line on parallel love i love the steadiness of 00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:36.289 the drum beat um that the drums aren't as chaotic 00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:38.750 on this one but they're like locked into this 00:33:38.750 --> 00:33:40.869 really cool rhythm that just kind of keep you 00:33:40.869 --> 00:33:45.210 going Um, also, uh, there's a, it's a love song, 00:33:45.210 --> 00:33:48.710 um, which is really fun. Um, and yeah, I think 00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:51.269 the guitar, yeah, the guitars are majestic. They 00:33:51.269 --> 00:33:53.670 ended up doing all this stuff that it reminds 00:33:53.670 --> 00:33:56.490 me in some ways of like, um, a further streams 00:33:56.490 --> 00:33:58.869 forever record where you're like, is that a guitar 00:33:58.869 --> 00:34:02.190 or is it like a violin? Like you don't, you don't 00:34:02.190 --> 00:34:05.210 know, um, because there's a lot of layers going 00:34:05.210 --> 00:34:09.750 on. It's like symphonic kind of. Yeah. So for 00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:14.670 me, um, I mentioned this to Joel that this track 00:34:14.670 --> 00:34:19.190 it started this kind of trend where it was like 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:21.730 the vocals were almost like non -existent. So 00:34:21.730 --> 00:34:23.969 you'd have like the music was like a doo doo 00:34:23.969 --> 00:34:26.849 doo and the lyrics were kind of like this and 00:34:26.849 --> 00:34:29.050 it seemed like he was like standing five feet 00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:32.849 away from the microphone and um and it was weird 00:34:32.849 --> 00:34:34.789 because like I tried it on my headphones and 00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:36.590 it did it and then I tried it on this like bluetooth 00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:39.289 speaker I had it did it and then I tried it on 00:34:39.289 --> 00:34:42.530 my laptop and it finally was like um balanced 00:34:42.530 --> 00:34:45.510 but I was telling Joel that was just really like 00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:48.469 weird because I've never had like an album you 00:34:48.469 --> 00:34:49.829 know like I'm used to like if I just listen on 00:34:49.829 --> 00:34:52.190 my phone it's the it's a you know five years 00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:54.110 old so the speakers aren't going to be as good 00:34:54.110 --> 00:34:57.230 um but I found it just like interesting that 00:34:57.230 --> 00:35:02.750 it was doing that yeah and so yeah I never noticed 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.579 that Brandon, what you're saying about this record. 00:35:06.659 --> 00:35:10.900 But I will say that like I grew up in like a 00:35:10.900 --> 00:35:14.539 musical world where like vocals are a little 00:35:14.539 --> 00:35:17.719 more buried than mainstream. And that's just 00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.599 like a norm thing for Independent music especially 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.460 like yeah post -punk and and something like this 00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:26.159 and or emo like vocals are gonna be a lot more 00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.960 buried Than they are and like more mainstream 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.039 music. Yeah, so it never felt that way to me 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.219 I did notice as I was listening to it on my In 00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:40.059 my car actually, I'm like, I don't know if Brandon's 00:35:40.059 --> 00:35:41.980 gonna like the production on this record Like 00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:44.480 I think it might be like a little rough for him 00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:49.949 But it is exactly what they wanted to make. And 00:35:49.949 --> 00:35:54.769 it's intentional. I think that you have to understand 00:35:54.769 --> 00:35:57.090 if you go back and listen to their earlier records, 00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:58.550 if you don't like the production on this one, 00:35:58.570 --> 00:35:59.869 you're going to be like, what in the world is 00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:03.449 happening? But they're coming out of a post -punk 00:36:03.449 --> 00:36:07.909 music scene of just chaos. And it's not supposed 00:36:07.909 --> 00:36:10.949 to be polished. It's supposed to feel real and 00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:15.269 raw and live almost. And they're trying to capture 00:36:15.269 --> 00:36:19.750 a live performance in a crummy club. yeah on 00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:22.590 a record um and so it's supposed to feel that 00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:25.510 way and if it didn't like they would lose credibility 00:36:25.510 --> 00:36:28.650 in their scene because um because it's not supposed 00:36:28.650 --> 00:36:31.449 to be super polished and so a record like this 00:36:31.449 --> 00:36:33.989 actually trophies is a super polished record 00:36:33.989 --> 00:36:38.719 for a band like luxury and um and so it's I would 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.960 probably argue that their newer record is even 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.579 more polished. So I think they keep stepping 00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:48.179 into more and more production. But yeah, I was 00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:50.059 surprised, honestly, listening to this record. 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.079 I'm like, they took a big step up in production, 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.829 but I also understand how. If you don't like 00:36:54.829 --> 00:36:56.789 have history with it that it might feel a little 00:36:56.789 --> 00:36:59.570 a little wrong And I I think once like once I 00:36:59.570 --> 00:37:02.809 listened to it, um like with my laptop speakers 00:37:02.809 --> 00:37:06.030 Um, this one I wasn't I ran out of time to go 00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:07.550 back and listen to this all the other ones I 00:37:07.550 --> 00:37:10.969 was able to go back and um listen to it But it 00:37:10.969 --> 00:37:12.630 was just something like interesting because like 00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:14.989 I said when you don't know the band It's like, 00:37:15.170 --> 00:37:16.769 you know, it's you're sitting there thinking 00:37:16.769 --> 00:37:19.110 is it just my headphones are messed up? Or is 00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:21.170 it that's what the band, you know is going for 00:37:21.170 --> 00:37:26.730 yeah, and um, but it it was cool because like 00:37:26.730 --> 00:37:29.469 you got to focus more on the music so i did feel 00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:32.550 like that was cool and you know it made me think 00:37:32.550 --> 00:37:34.590 that a lot of times like i'll be the first to 00:37:34.590 --> 00:37:38.050 admit that for me if if i'm like putting the 00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:41.110 scales of a cd i'm gonna put a lot more stock 00:37:41.110 --> 00:37:44.769 into lyrics than the music yeah and um but i 00:37:44.769 --> 00:37:46.489 think sometimes it's like you don't appreciate 00:37:46.489 --> 00:37:50.320 music so like whenever my If it was my headphones 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.780 or whatever were messing up. It was cool to kind 00:37:52.780 --> 00:37:57.159 of get to You know, I think even as the album 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.380 went on I had more of an appreciation for the 00:38:00.380 --> 00:38:03.619 music because you know, it was like I can't hear 00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:05.900 the lyrics but then I was like those drums are 00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:08.239 pretty cool and that's good the guitar is cool 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.119 and so I feel like it was cool to kind of like 00:38:12.750 --> 00:38:14.570 I guess it's like what is that like bob ross 00:38:14.570 --> 00:38:16.409 thing about like the happy accidents or something 00:38:16.409 --> 00:38:19.530 So it's like it was a good accident Yeah, it 00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:22.210 kind of allowed me to to look more into the uh, 00:38:22.210 --> 00:38:25.030 the music side of it Did you were you reading 00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:27.090 through the lyrics as you were listening to it? 00:38:27.309 --> 00:38:29.650 Yeah, yeah, because I had to that helps a little 00:38:29.650 --> 00:38:33.369 bit. I it was an album that um, I think it's 00:38:33.369 --> 00:38:36.550 like the five iron frenzy album Like I felt I 00:38:36.550 --> 00:38:38.170 got to the point where I was like this is not 00:38:38.170 --> 00:38:41.190 a listen to the car and pick up on it. Yeah Um, 00:38:41.190 --> 00:38:43.750 it was a, let me sit down and read the lyrics 00:38:43.750 --> 00:38:46.969 and see what's going on with it. Um, and so, 00:38:47.449 --> 00:38:50.170 but yeah, that's, I mentioned that later on in 00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:53.690 one of the, um, the little things. Yeah. Um, 00:38:53.969 --> 00:38:56.030 I think if you go back and listen to this song 00:38:56.030 --> 00:38:58.730 on your computer, um, I do, I would consider 00:38:58.730 --> 00:39:02.369 this to be like the single off the record. It's 00:39:02.369 --> 00:39:06.119 probably the most like, um, Most friendly for 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.579 like an outsider to like listen to and so I think 00:39:08.579 --> 00:39:11.780 you probably like enjoy it for sure. Yeah Well, 00:39:11.780 --> 00:39:13.900 you mentioned the word intentional. I think that's 00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:16.500 just a very good way to describe that was like 00:39:16.500 --> 00:39:18.599 everything feels very intentional Yeah, like 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.980 even the polishedness of it is very Intentional 00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:24.280 like if you go back and listen to amazing and 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.619 thank you that sounds, you know, it's a cool 00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:28.500 album But it sounds like a band that's trying 00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:30.380 to find their footing and get their sound and 00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:33.219 put their make their place in the scene they 00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:37.039 also this that Came out a decade after they did 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.699 anything and it feels very mature and it feels 00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:43.360 like this is ten years of a band just Relaxing 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.079 in their lives and figuring themselves out and 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.119 coming back together and this is who they are. 00:39:47.539 --> 00:39:52.099 Yeah Yeah, I love them All right. Track three 00:39:52.099 --> 00:39:55.840 trophies takes takes a turn, Cameron, as you 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.219 mentioned kind of earlier for the record. What 00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:01.760 were your thoughts on this one? I love the contrast 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.820 of like there's a few songs in this album that 00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:06.400 are generally a lot slower. Yeah. And there's 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.719 that cool contrast between these super fast paced 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.599 songs and then going into the slow ones. But 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.460 there's a way that, you know, you listen to an 00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:16.679 album and there's a slow song on it. You're like. 00:40:16.889 --> 00:40:18.670 Yeah, this feels out of place, but everything 00:40:18.670 --> 00:40:21.329 feels very cohesive here and I think trophies 00:40:21.329 --> 00:40:25.170 just is a really cool slow down before we get 00:40:25.170 --> 00:40:28.570 into another more picked up pace song like I 00:40:28.570 --> 00:40:31.090 Again like lyrics. I can't not bring up lyrics 00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:32.710 on every song because I think all the lyrics 00:40:32.710 --> 00:40:34.849 are really cool But everything just plays together 00:40:34.849 --> 00:40:43.699 so well Yeah, I um, I think so too I think this 00:40:43.699 --> 00:40:46.159 is just to kind of jump off your lyrics thing 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.039 like this this has some of my favorite lyrics 00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:53.059 on the record um there's a a point in verse two 00:40:53.059 --> 00:40:54.679 where he says there's no way to undo what you 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:56.860 did there's no way to unlive what you lived there's 00:40:56.860 --> 00:40:58.920 just consequence there's always a glove that 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:03.739 fits um it's such good writing and um yeah that 00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:05.980 stands out to me in a big way on this song and 00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:09.139 I think I think this gives like um gives a place 00:41:09.139 --> 00:41:13.989 for um Lee's vocals to shine um and i love the 00:41:13.989 --> 00:41:18.429 atmosphere around it um as you get kind of when 00:41:18.429 --> 00:41:20.409 you you get to this point halfway through verse 00:41:20.409 --> 00:41:24.369 two where the music just gets a little like chaotically 00:41:24.369 --> 00:41:28.710 lush and beautiful and um i love that section 00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:31.750 of the song um and the bass playing is just unbelievable 00:41:31.750 --> 00:41:35.469 too so yeah that's what i put down and there's 00:41:35.469 --> 00:41:39.949 just like really subtle like build up and I feel 00:41:39.949 --> 00:41:42.510 like it was cool. I wrote down that it felt like 00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:47.329 I was listening to a jam session. It seemed like 00:41:47.329 --> 00:41:49.590 they're just kind of like playing stuff and it's 00:41:49.590 --> 00:41:53.570 like, hey, let me throw out the C. I really like 00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:57.989 the simplicity of that. You know, going back 00:41:57.989 --> 00:42:02.489 when you don't know a band, you're kind of like, 00:42:02.690 --> 00:42:04.469 okay, is this a band that can do everything? 00:42:05.230 --> 00:42:09.090 Because there's some heavier bands that you listen 00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:13.070 to and you're like okay the like seven heavy 00:42:13.070 --> 00:42:15.929 tracks on here are good but the three like slower 00:42:15.929 --> 00:42:19.909 ones yeah it's a skip track and um i feel like 00:42:19.909 --> 00:42:22.630 it's cool it's always like i'm curious when you 00:42:22.630 --> 00:42:25.210 get when you hear okay this is going to be slower 00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:28.769 it's like okay like and i think that's where 00:42:28.769 --> 00:42:30.750 you shine is when you're a band where it's not 00:42:30.750 --> 00:42:33.090 just how loud we can be but it's like you said 00:42:33.090 --> 00:42:35.650 like when you're intentional and you like are 00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:38.369 putting in effort to the lyrics and all i feel 00:42:38.369 --> 00:42:41.289 like that helps because it doesn't feel like 00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:44.010 a oh we have to put in something quiet right 00:42:44.010 --> 00:42:46.989 it's okay no no we need to put something in like 00:42:46.989 --> 00:42:50.369 quiet here um so i think it was a pretty cool 00:42:50.369 --> 00:42:54.250 kind of like dip um but you know still having 00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:58.389 substance there yeah so that's good um next up 00:42:58.389 --> 00:43:02.650 is um hold on a second i made the mistake of 00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:04.920 i didn't want to write out the whole uh name 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.219 of the song it is a long song so the next one 00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:11.900 let me get a deep breath uh don't feel bad if 00:43:11.900 --> 00:43:15.719 you don't feel better right away joel uh did 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.699 this song make you feel better or definitely 00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:21.719 i wrote down the name of the song is so good 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:27.519 um obviously it's just the chorus basically um 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.579 i love i love the lyric and then don't feel bad 00:43:30.579 --> 00:43:32.539 if you don't feel better right away like it's 00:43:32.539 --> 00:43:35.530 a great line Um, and so it's cool that they pulled 00:43:35.530 --> 00:43:37.349 it for the song title, even though it's long. 00:43:37.829 --> 00:43:41.449 Um, there's really cool guitars that happen after, 00:43:41.809 --> 00:43:45.130 um, the second chorus. Um, I, I wouldn't say 00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:47.250 this is like my favorite track on the record, 00:43:47.250 --> 00:43:50.369 but I do love, uh, I love a song that starts 00:43:50.369 --> 00:43:54.050 out in the chorus. Um, and so it's cool that 00:43:54.050 --> 00:43:57.190 this, that this song does that. Um, which I think 00:43:57.190 --> 00:43:59.170 it sets a good tone for like where the song's 00:43:59.170 --> 00:44:03.820 going. How about you, Cameron? Cool song. I love 00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:06.639 I love long title songs something about that 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.280 I love where that's a FM static had the one I'm 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.800 really like every song Yeah, like ten words in 00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.400 the title. Like I love that stuff. No, it's a 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.960 good song. I it's one of those ones that Like 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.239 I mentioned earlier, like you listen to it and 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:20.619 you try to read the lyrics and you try to read 00:44:20.619 --> 00:44:22.559 what he said about it. It's like, I still don't 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.880 entirely get this song. Like it's very cryptic 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.820 and it's it's a simple just don't feel bad if 00:44:27.820 --> 00:44:29.159 you don't feel better right away. And that is 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.380 like what drives the song. I mean, I guess that's 00:44:31.380 --> 00:44:34.380 the meaning. Right. But like I this is one of 00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:37.059 my favorites lyrically, that it's just very cryptic 00:44:37.059 --> 00:44:42.219 in that sense. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoy like the. 00:44:44.500 --> 00:44:46.380 Gosh, we call it like kind of like the lighter 00:44:46.380 --> 00:44:49.739 vocals that like appear in it. Yeah and then 00:44:49.739 --> 00:44:52.780 the I'm glad you guys mentioned the the song 00:44:52.780 --> 00:44:56.380 like titles because like I I think it's just 00:44:56.380 --> 00:44:59.440 like the little things like I I've said it before 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.039 like when I used to Back in the day when we used 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.840 to buy our physical CDs like I loved whenever 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.840 there was like those little like inserts and 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.460 all and even when I get vinyl Like to be honest 00:45:11.460 --> 00:45:14.139 if I order a vinyl and all I have is like the 00:45:14.139 --> 00:45:18.460 sleeve and the vinyl It's kind of a letdown because 00:45:18.460 --> 00:45:22.400 I love whenever they include like because I think 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:26.139 even You'd correct me if I'm wrong on this camera, 00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:29.159 but I think like Family Force 5 came with like 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:33.719 a lyric like sheet and like me without you's 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.469 usually will throw in stuff and I think just 00:45:37.469 --> 00:45:40.090 little stuff like even just like naming a song 00:45:40.090 --> 00:45:43.550 it's like it'd be easier just to say like feel 00:45:43.550 --> 00:45:46.730 better or something but I think it's cool when 00:45:46.730 --> 00:45:50.230 it's like someone is thinking how do I describe 00:45:50.230 --> 00:45:52.469 this and it's like you almost can picture them 00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:55.190 sitting back in the chair and thinking hmm what 00:45:55.190 --> 00:45:59.130 what is the title of this and um I think it's 00:45:59.130 --> 00:46:02.170 just like it's it's cool getting to notice those 00:46:02.170 --> 00:46:04.150 things without knowing like you know because 00:46:04.150 --> 00:46:06.170 I might say that you guys are like Oh, yeah, 00:46:06.289 --> 00:46:08.269 Brandon, of course, you know, blah, blah, blah. 00:46:08.369 --> 00:46:11.090 He does all that stuff. You know, for me, it's 00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:13.809 like, you know, either you can think who's this 00:46:13.809 --> 00:46:16.110 weirdo naming these weird songs or you can think, 00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:18.449 oh, that's cool. And I fall in the category of 00:46:18.449 --> 00:46:21.409 I think that's cool. I would agree with you. 00:46:21.510 --> 00:46:24.869 I think it's cool. Yep. So all right. Track five 00:46:24.869 --> 00:46:30.829 is the war on women. Brandon, tell us about your 00:46:30.829 --> 00:46:35.900 thoughts on the war on women. Well. so this one 00:46:35.900 --> 00:46:39.179 at first i thought it was just a long song and 00:46:39.179 --> 00:46:44.079 i did because it kind of bleeds in and um and 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.980 so like i'm driving in the car listening to it 00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:51.739 and um i'm thinking like man this is like a really 00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:54.539 long song and then i look down and i'm like oh 00:46:54.539 --> 00:46:56.559 no it's this is we're two minutes into like a 00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:59.360 new song um so i thought that was interesting 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.719 kind of like the bleed in um i really like the 00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:07.949 way that um it was tackled and I think like this 00:47:07.949 --> 00:47:10.190 was one that I kind of started like diving into 00:47:10.190 --> 00:47:13.170 the lyrics because it was like what like when 00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:14.690 I first heard it it's kind of like I don't I 00:47:14.690 --> 00:47:17.670 don't know what he's saying or whatever and once 00:47:17.670 --> 00:47:22.670 I got home and like dove into the lyrics I was 00:47:22.670 --> 00:47:25.489 like oh that's that's cool this isn't just like 00:47:25.489 --> 00:47:28.610 a like what is he saying it's like oh this is 00:47:28.610 --> 00:47:32.170 what he is saying and um think it's cool because 00:47:32.170 --> 00:47:34.809 I think just tough topics like this it can lead 00:47:34.809 --> 00:47:38.650 to like either being like really cheesy or just 00:47:38.650 --> 00:47:42.230 going like too far and kind of alienating people 00:47:42.230 --> 00:47:44.789 with like, you know, I don't know being angry 00:47:44.789 --> 00:47:48.110 or calling people out or whatever and um, so 00:47:48.110 --> 00:47:51.250 I always appreciate when someone can take something 00:47:51.250 --> 00:47:55.429 that is like a tougher topic and They can present 00:47:55.429 --> 00:47:59.400 it in a way. That's like I don't know, like clear 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.639 and kind of easy to like understand and see where 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.079 they're coming from. So I think that's cool whenever 00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.320 a band isn't afraid to tackle that, but also 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.440 they take the time to like state what they're 00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.400 trying to say. It's a really good point because 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.340 we've certainly in the Christian music industry 00:48:17.340 --> 00:48:21.440 heard like cheesy examples of dealing with topics 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:26.159 like this. DC talk, for instance, our DC talk 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.440 phase that had a song back in the day called 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.400 I don't want your sex. Um, like that's probably 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:34.679 a cheesy way to handle a topic like, like this. 00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.900 And, um, and this I feel like is such a thoughtful 00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:42.519 way to kind of dig into it that, um, yeah, I 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:44.780 mean, it's, so it's a song about pornography. 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.010 Like there was a war on women. And I love the 00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:51.090 line. I was too young to know I was in it. Um, 00:48:51.429 --> 00:48:55.309 that as young men, we, we get caught up in our 00:48:55.309 --> 00:48:57.690 feelings and our emotions and our lust, and we 00:48:57.690 --> 00:49:00.550 don't realize like the consequence, um, that 00:49:00.550 --> 00:49:03.409 comes from things like this and the way that 00:49:03.409 --> 00:49:07.150 it causes us to think about women or people in 00:49:07.150 --> 00:49:12.710 our lives. And, um, and man, I like, yeah, I 00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:15.670 think this is such a powerful song and just lyrically. 00:49:15.900 --> 00:49:18.980 Um, but also I love I love it. It's one of my 00:49:18.980 --> 00:49:21.519 favorite songs on the record. Um, the guitars 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.019 are so heavy like in the beginning um, and um 00:49:26.019 --> 00:49:28.079 Yeah, I I just think it's such a such a good 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.900 track cameron. What do you think about this one? 00:49:30.300 --> 00:49:34.139 Uh 100 agree like I love this song. This is not 00:49:34.139 --> 00:49:37.099 my favorite, but it used to be yeah Um, it's 00:49:37.099 --> 00:49:40.059 it's I think this is a good song when two if 00:49:40.059 --> 00:49:42.280 you wanted to show somebody like how lee writes 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.460 lyrics This is the song. Yeah, like it's a very 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.500 Well, meaning everything's purposeful. Everything 00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:51.480 is cryptic, but it still makes sense Mm -hmm. 00:49:51.820 --> 00:49:55.420 Like I think looking at their early lyrics, especially 00:49:55.420 --> 00:49:57.719 like the stuff on amazing and thank you are very 00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:02.239 Edgy and taboo almost yeah, it's almost like 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.380 it's edgy to be. Yeah, we're in the Christian 00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:06.079 scene So we're gonna push it a little bit, right? 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.340 It doesn't feel as like purposeful not that they 00:50:08.340 --> 00:50:10.079 weren't purposeful. They're great songs. I love 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.360 them Yeah, but it feels a little more like let's 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.380 push the envelope a bit, right? Whereas these 00:50:14.380 --> 00:50:16.280 feel like this is intentional. This is for the 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.400 song I think it shows another level of that maturity. 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.159 Yeah, it's one things one of the things we talked 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:23.699 about before we hopped on the podcast I think 00:50:23.699 --> 00:50:27.059 but if you go and watch the documentary parallel 00:50:27.059 --> 00:50:30.239 love you get kind of the story of the band and 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.219 so a big part of their story is they put out 00:50:33.219 --> 00:50:37.159 their first record and were really rising in 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.039 kind of notoriety in the scene and were pretty 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.119 popular. They had played Cornerstone the year 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:44.059 before, got signed by Tooth & Nail, put out their 00:50:44.059 --> 00:50:49.599 first record and then went back to their second 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.900 year of playing Cornerstone and had a huge crowd. 00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:55.960 There was a ton of energy. The show went great 00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.480 apparently. Wish I could have seen it. Apparently 00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:02.940 it was just like a legendary show. And but on 00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:05.219 the way back from that, they ended up in a huge 00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:09.760 car crash that that almost killed a couple of 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.800 them. Lee, especially, almost died. And that 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.159 kind of like reshaped who they were in a lot 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.739 of ways. And we were talking about beforehand 00:51:19.739 --> 00:51:24.059 how they became a band that was like. let's be 00:51:24.059 --> 00:51:25.980 cryptic and push the envelope just to kind of 00:51:25.980 --> 00:51:28.920 do it and see if it kind of gains us something 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:32.599 to a band that still stayed cryptic. But it was 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.599 a lot more purposeful and intentional. And it's 00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.320 neat to see. I mean, now like the story behind 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:43.500 the story is that, you know, three, maybe four 00:51:43.500 --> 00:51:46.460 of these guys now are Orthodox priests. Three 00:51:46.460 --> 00:51:50.599 of them. Yeah. And so they are deeply ingrained 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:58.349 in their faith in Jesus. And so it took that 00:51:58.349 --> 00:52:00.650 car crash and going through incredible suffering 00:52:00.650 --> 00:52:05.769 together to draw them in closer to purpose and 00:52:05.769 --> 00:52:08.929 what God had for them. And so it's a fascinating 00:52:08.929 --> 00:52:11.369 story. I highly encourage anybody to go and check 00:52:11.369 --> 00:52:13.630 out the documentary so you can get kind of a 00:52:13.630 --> 00:52:16.110 good background on who they are as an artist. 00:52:16.989 --> 00:52:19.929 Cameron, what are your thoughts on You Must Change 00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:24.929 Your Life? Love the just the rhythm and the drive 00:52:24.929 --> 00:52:28.809 this song has I think it's some of Lee's best 00:52:28.809 --> 00:52:31.429 I don't know I want to say some of his best vocal 00:52:31.429 --> 00:52:33.449 performance and delivery because I think every 00:52:33.449 --> 00:52:35.469 song really showcases something different for 00:52:35.469 --> 00:52:40.690 him I really like his delivery on this song It's 00:52:40.690 --> 00:52:44.010 just a very simple song lyrically and I don't 00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:45.849 want to keep going back to lyrics each time But 00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:47.769 I just I think he just kills it on this album 00:52:47.769 --> 00:52:50.599 with the lyrics and I think it's it's a really 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:55.280 cool like looking to his life leading up to getting 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.719 back into doing stuff with luxury again um and 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.880 the guitars here are really cool and i know jul 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.000 mentioned earlier the bass on i think it was 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.980 trophies but the bass on this whole album is 00:53:05.980 --> 00:53:10.980 just really really good this song specifically 00:53:10.980 --> 00:53:13.699 too it's one thing about this band that like 00:53:13.699 --> 00:53:18.039 um everybody that is in this band is so gifted 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:21.340 at their craft and somehow it all the chaos of 00:53:21.340 --> 00:53:24.599 it all works together. And it's it's beautiful. 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.639 Yeah. Brandon, what do you think? Yeah, I really 00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.940 like the the vocals on this one. I feel like 00:53:30.940 --> 00:53:34.940 it. It's shown through pretty well. I feel like 00:53:34.940 --> 00:53:37.260 this probably at this point, I think this is 00:53:37.260 --> 00:53:40.159 the first track that kind of was like it. What 00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.159 did like there was nothing that like stood out 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.380 as like, oh, this is like really good. So I think 00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:47.360 it kind of like Like plateaus a little bit with 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.440 this song like for me. Um That's why I was really 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.079 excited that cameron got to go first that way 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.800 I didn't jump in with being like, oh man like 00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.119 this song plateaus and it's like This is the 00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.159 greatest song he ever produced and it's like, 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.659 oh Let me take that back I feel like I feel like 00:54:03.659 --> 00:54:06.719 this song is a story a little bit of lee's life 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.820 because he talks about 1987 and then jumping 00:54:10.820 --> 00:54:14.860 forward to 1997. And so you basically have pre 00:54:14.860 --> 00:54:19.079 car crash Lee to post car crash Lee and obviously 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.579 kid to like adults who's walked through and been 00:54:22.579 --> 00:54:26.039 through some tough things. And so I think that 00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.019 a lot of this like has to do with the kind of 00:54:29.019 --> 00:54:31.199 the turning point. of his life. Maybe I'm becoming 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.780 a priest. Maybe he's talking about the car crash. 00:54:33.860 --> 00:54:37.380 But I love the lyric. It takes some time to figure 00:54:37.380 --> 00:54:39.659 out what you think when you always believe in 00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:44.559 everything. Again, just the lyrics on this record 00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:48.000 are so good. And this is another great example 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:52.860 of the drums on the song. They're just crazy. 00:54:53.179 --> 00:54:57.309 And I love every minute of it. And watching Glenn 00:54:57.309 --> 00:54:59.250 play when I got to see them live, watching him 00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:01.829 play the play live was just so entertaining. 00:55:02.989 --> 00:55:05.869 He's such an incredible drummer. Yeah, it's a 00:55:05.869 --> 00:55:09.809 great one. All right. Track number seven is Museums 00:55:09.809 --> 00:55:12.329 in Decline. Cameron, what are your thoughts on 00:55:12.329 --> 00:55:16.150 this one? Cool song. This is not I didn't have 00:55:16.150 --> 00:55:17.829 it listed as one of my favorites, but I do really 00:55:17.829 --> 00:55:19.949 like this one. I love the imagery with the lyrics 00:55:19.949 --> 00:55:22.409 on this one, because like it's one of these ones 00:55:22.409 --> 00:55:26.239 you can listen to. And you can just picture exactly 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:30.880 what he's saying. Like, I always love when lyricists 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.840 can just get you right into that spot where you 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.099 can imagine everything he's saying. It's very 00:55:36.099 --> 00:55:41.239 cool. But this is one I liked reading his kind 00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.460 of thoughts on the song, what got into the lyrics. 00:55:43.539 --> 00:55:45.079 He's just got some cool thoughts on that, which 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.639 I won't dig into that because he writes a lot 00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.639 about each of these songs. um but it's it's a 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.219 really cool song i i again i hate to just keep 00:55:53.219 --> 00:55:55.320 going back to lyrics but i just i love the lyrics 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.780 on this album how he portrays everything really 00:55:57.780 --> 00:56:03.579 well yeah i think um for me this was like one 00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:07.219 that i i don't know i don't know if i have like 00:56:07.219 --> 00:56:09.780 a favorite song because i feel like this stands 00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:12.699 out i'm trying to think if if another one stands 00:56:12.699 --> 00:56:16.230 out but I just really enjoy getting to like dive 00:56:16.230 --> 00:56:18.590 in to like oh what does he mean by this and that 00:56:18.590 --> 00:56:22.349 and I feel like if I made a list of like my favorite 00:56:22.349 --> 00:56:25.889 artists I feel like eight of the top 10 would 00:56:25.889 --> 00:56:29.190 be bands that like you have to sit down and be 00:56:29.190 --> 00:56:31.949 like what do they mean by that and you have to 00:56:31.949 --> 00:56:33.570 dig into where it's like oh he's referencing 00:56:33.570 --> 00:56:37.329 this book from like 1935 or like oh he's referencing 00:56:37.329 --> 00:56:41.289 like he released a song you know 20 years ago 00:56:41.289 --> 00:56:45.130 that he's you know like I I love that stuff and 00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:47.809 um so with this one I love getting to like dive 00:56:47.809 --> 00:56:51.530 in and be like yeah like what's the I mean sometimes 00:56:51.530 --> 00:56:54.429 you find out that he's just like he's just naming 00:56:54.429 --> 00:56:56.610 a random street but then other times you find 00:56:56.610 --> 00:56:59.889 out like oh this is a street that this this thing 00:56:59.889 --> 00:57:03.889 happened you know like um so I I really love 00:57:03.889 --> 00:57:07.480 just diving into it and um it made me think that 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.679 I, a couple weeks ago, I told my mom, she's like, 00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.880 I don't know a lot of the music I'll listen to 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:15.860 on there. And I'm like, I'm the same way. I'm 00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:17.780 like, but you should start listening to it. And 00:57:17.780 --> 00:57:20.719 she was like, okay, but she is not the person. 00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:23.659 Like back in the day, I would be like, she's 00:57:23.659 --> 00:57:25.300 like, I don't want to have to do like research 00:57:25.300 --> 00:57:27.179 on a song. She's like, I just want to put it 00:57:27.179 --> 00:57:29.340 in and get like, okay, he's singing about his 00:57:29.340 --> 00:57:31.780 kid, not like, oh, he's singing about a child 00:57:31.780 --> 00:57:35.670 from the 1700s, you know, or whatever. so i did 00:57:35.670 --> 00:57:37.710 start listening to this and i was like i feel 00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:39.230 like i need to apologize and be like hey you 00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:41.030 might i don't know if you want to skip this week 00:57:41.030 --> 00:57:43.110 or not because there's like homework with this 00:57:43.110 --> 00:57:46.610 album yeah i love stuff like that too i love 00:57:46.610 --> 00:57:48.489 being able to just dig into an album it's going 00:57:48.489 --> 00:57:50.610 back to like pull getting a physical release 00:57:50.610 --> 00:57:52.909 and pulling it out and reading all the lyrics 00:57:52.909 --> 00:57:54.690 and whatever like One of my favorite bands used 00:57:54.690 --> 00:57:56.929 to be silent planet and they would always have 00:57:56.929 --> 00:57:59.090 footnotes in the lyrics that are references to 00:57:59.090 --> 00:58:01.329 bible verses or books He's reading or events 00:58:01.329 --> 00:58:03.670 going and it's always cool. I love I want to 00:58:03.670 --> 00:58:06.489 do research I want to dig into what this artist 00:58:06.489 --> 00:58:11.150 is really passionate about Yeah, I um, I think 00:58:11.150 --> 00:58:14.570 I love that this one starts off with an acoustic 00:58:14.570 --> 00:58:16.550 guitar strumming because it's such a different 00:58:16.550 --> 00:58:20.500 texture for the record um and um and then it 00:58:20.500 --> 00:58:22.519 kind of kicks in but it's got a different sense 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.440 of rhythm than a lot of the rest of the album 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:27.559 and i could see where you could make an argument 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:32.039 that some of this feels a little samey um but 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.860 i actually think that the songs are all pretty 00:58:34.860 --> 00:58:37.579 unique they just fall into a similar like sonic 00:58:37.579 --> 00:58:41.420 category but um but i love how different this 00:58:41.420 --> 00:58:44.380 one feels i love the guitar when he sings the 00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:46.699 line there's really nothing there at all just 00:58:46.699 --> 00:58:49.119 like the drop kind of thing that that they do 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:53.780 there um and the question of um it's just kind 00:58:53.780 --> 00:58:56.599 of like is there more to life um yeah i really 00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:01.320 like musings and decline i think it's cool that's 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.719 good that line the funk collapsed every time 00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:05.199 but it's all right i hear there's more to life 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:09.079 is Reference to latest and greatest. Yeah, it's 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:13.800 more than being sexy That's cool Joel, what do 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.300 you think about words of mouth? Yeah words of 00:59:17.300 --> 00:59:23.679 mouth man This song is gorgeous There's something 00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:25.519 about this one when I turn I know it's one of 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:29.639 those slow songs on the record But I love the 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:32.139 music. I love the melody. I love the lyrics. 00:59:32.139 --> 00:59:37.510 I love the just that I the change your life idea. 00:59:37.730 --> 00:59:43.369 Um, because it feels when Lee sings these words, 00:59:43.389 --> 00:59:47.050 like they feel so real and grounded. Like there, 00:59:47.170 --> 00:59:48.909 I just felt like there's so much authenticity, 00:59:48.909 --> 00:59:53.489 um, from him as a singer, as a songwriter. And 00:59:53.489 --> 00:59:55.989 I feel like that shines like really strongly 00:59:55.989 --> 00:59:59.650 on this song. Um, and so it's simultaneously 00:59:59.650 --> 01:00:02.519 like real and grounded, but then just with his 01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.699 vocals like it's like heavenly at the same time 01:00:05.699 --> 01:00:10.380 um he i haven't said it yet but um lee's i think 01:00:10.380 --> 01:00:13.300 one of my favorite singers um that's out there 01:00:13.300 --> 01:00:17.920 in a band yep and um his his voice is so different 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.239 from like anything else that i hear and in all 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:26.239 the good ways and um i just yeah i love it and 01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:28.480 i love this i love this song i think it's gorgeous 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:32.400 yeah yes Beautiful song very very beautiful. 01:00:32.420 --> 01:00:35.440 I guess this It's just probably at least in my 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.739 top five songs on the album. Like I love this 01:00:37.739 --> 01:00:40.219 song I couldn't imagine this album without this 01:00:40.219 --> 01:00:43.019 song. It's a very short song. It's very kind 01:00:43.019 --> 01:00:47.019 of outlier, especially like it doesn't Because 01:00:47.019 --> 01:00:50.800 like trophies kind of fits in well And like if 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:52.300 you're listening to the songs it makes sense 01:00:52.300 --> 01:00:54.320 that they're slowing down to slower song picking 01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:58.280 back up Museums and decline is a very fast -paced 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.639 song and then it goes slow with this. Yeah, but 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.360 it does it still feels cohesive And like you 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.380 brought up like the change your life line It 01:01:07.380 --> 01:01:09.239 does I think overall like that is one of the 01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:10.800 biggest themes on the album is changing our life 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.760 And I think that continues to show like over 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.639 those ten years that they weren't making music 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.280 Yeah, that changing your life and becoming somebody 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:21.639 new and what made trophies trophies. Mm -hmm. 01:01:22.460 --> 01:01:26.820 Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed the like the slower I also 01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:29.579 enjoyed it being like shorter because what I 01:01:29.579 --> 01:01:31.260 noticed was like some of the songs were like 01:01:31.260 --> 01:01:34.659 clocking in you know at like uh four minutes 01:01:34.659 --> 01:01:37.360 or like you know near five minutes or whatever 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:41.119 and I feel like that's um it's it's kind of nice 01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:44.159 it's like I've um I've mentioned recently I kind 01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:45.940 of missed the days where there was these like 01:01:45.940 --> 01:01:49.059 little um like interludes and all where you'd 01:01:49.059 --> 01:01:51.860 have like a little like minute long like little 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.860 The thing like we uh on huck nelson. I think 01:01:54.860 --> 01:01:57.019 it was recess where it was just like a minute 01:01:57.019 --> 01:01:59.579 of like It feels like you're at recess because 01:01:59.579 --> 01:02:01.559 it's just a guitar doing, you know, whatever 01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:05.079 and um I feel like it's nice to kind of throw 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:08.340 in these like Shorter ones that way you're not 01:02:08.340 --> 01:02:11.760 getting just constant like You know like four 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.679 minutes four minutes five minutes four minutes. 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.320 Yeah Um, I feel like it's cool. And like I said, 01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:20.159 I enjoyed the slow down on it. That's cool All 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:24.039 right track nine courage courage cameron what 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.039 do you think about this one this is my favorite 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:31.199 song on the album oh i was waiting for it i there 01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:33.800 is something about okay let me just preface i 01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:37.550 am a Sucker for a good emotional song. Yeah, 01:02:37.550 --> 01:02:40.150 and I think Lee's delivery on this song is so 01:02:40.150 --> 01:02:44.849 emotional That set of lines in the third verse 01:02:44.849 --> 01:02:47.449 where he says only only raise up your mind I'll 01:02:47.449 --> 01:02:49.309 show you the meaning says I know you did and 01:02:49.309 --> 01:02:51.989 I remember it and his delivery. There's just 01:02:51.989 --> 01:02:55.130 so good I love the musicality of it. I love how 01:02:55.130 --> 01:02:58.809 everything builds together Lyrics again are great. 01:02:58.869 --> 01:03:01.530 This is just my favorite song, but it sounds 01:03:01.530 --> 01:03:05.250 like it is not yours No, this is my favorite 01:03:05.250 --> 01:03:08.130 song on the record. OK, I was a little worried 01:03:08.130 --> 01:03:11.730 there. I love this song. And what's funny is 01:03:11.730 --> 01:03:14.690 until I was intentionally listening to the album 01:03:14.690 --> 01:03:17.070 this way, like track by track, I don't think 01:03:17.070 --> 01:03:18.829 I ever would have said this was my favorite song 01:03:18.829 --> 01:03:23.710 on the record. But, man, I think this is a perfect 01:03:23.710 --> 01:03:28.130 song. Yep. I don't think. anything wrong happens 01:03:28.130 --> 01:03:30.650 on this. The bass playing is so good. The guitar 01:03:30.650 --> 01:03:34.670 work is so good. I love the build. I love the 01:03:34.670 --> 01:03:38.349 like almost creepiness of it that builds to the 01:03:38.349 --> 01:03:40.809 emotions. And I'm an emo guy from way back. And 01:03:40.809 --> 01:03:44.409 so it just fits perfectly with my feelings about 01:03:44.409 --> 01:03:47.510 that. I also like I again, I haven't read Lee's 01:03:47.510 --> 01:03:49.630 thoughts on all these tracks and what's kind 01:03:49.630 --> 01:03:53.170 of behind them. But I think I feel like this 01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:55.969 maybe has to speak to like his ordination as 01:03:55.969 --> 01:04:01.150 a priest or something. Um, but, uh, I wrote down 01:04:01.150 --> 01:04:03.969 as I was listening to it, best question mark. 01:04:05.730 --> 01:04:08.469 I think this is the best song in the album. Um, 01:04:08.650 --> 01:04:12.030 yeah, I think it's so good. I think the, oh, 01:04:12.150 --> 01:04:14.949 go ahead. I was going to say, I feel like with 01:04:14.949 --> 01:04:17.309 every album, there is one rotten song that comes 01:04:17.309 --> 01:04:23.219 along. um and it's not this one but i um i thought 01:04:23.219 --> 01:04:25.300 it was interesting because like you have this 01:04:25.300 --> 01:04:29.059 like slower song and then it like leads into 01:04:29.059 --> 01:04:33.860 like a slower song and um i think a lot of times 01:04:33.860 --> 01:04:37.760 it you almost like slow down too much if you 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:41.219 follow back i think it's kind of like the um 01:04:41.219 --> 01:04:43.079 i think it was like family force five that you 01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.280 were kind of like There's no break. Like why 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.699 is it just like chaos chaos chaos? There is no 01:04:47.699 --> 01:04:50.800 kind of like break and I think that on the opposite 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:54.039 side it's like You can kind of make it screech 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:56.820 to a halt. So like at first I was kind of like, 01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:01.039 okay, like i'll I feel like there was enough 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:06.119 Like like an investment built up like I had at 01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.219 this point I had enough trust to be like, okay, 01:05:08.219 --> 01:05:10.739 like i'll see where it's going And um, I think 01:05:10.739 --> 01:05:13.989 it's cool that You do have this like build up 01:05:13.989 --> 01:05:16.050 like y 'all were saying is that and I think that 01:05:16.050 --> 01:05:19.789 it actually works really well to have this like 01:05:19.789 --> 01:05:22.289 Slow, so it's like you do slow down the album, 01:05:22.289 --> 01:05:25.769 but then it's like it It's like such a payoff 01:05:25.769 --> 01:05:28.650 like at the end because you have like slow down 01:05:28.650 --> 01:05:30.949 to like you're kind of like drawn into like, 01:05:31.030 --> 01:05:32.949 okay What what's he saying? Where's it going? 01:05:32.949 --> 01:05:36.530 And then like it lifts up and um, so I just thought 01:05:36.530 --> 01:05:39.130 that was I thought that was really cool because 01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:41.969 like I said I think that a lot of times that's 01:05:41.969 --> 01:05:46.329 almost like a misstep um in doing that so yeah 01:05:46.329 --> 01:05:48.789 i i just think it gets it right at every point 01:05:48.789 --> 01:05:51.909 i love the moments where he holds out a word 01:05:51.909 --> 01:05:55.650 and the music fades it's like there's a thing 01:05:55.650 --> 01:05:58.030 that happens where they're in the same sort of 01:05:58.030 --> 01:06:00.170 position together and the music fades away but 01:06:00.170 --> 01:06:02.750 his voice fades into the forefront as he sings 01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.219 uh a word and it's just great and then as the 01:06:06.219 --> 01:06:09.539 song kicks in um it's perfect the way that it 01:06:09.539 --> 01:06:12.960 builds and gets to where it's going so i love 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.179 love love love that song yeah this song like 01:06:16.179 --> 01:06:19.860 bean sandwich between two slow songs is the perfect 01:06:19.860 --> 01:06:22.980 spot for it because like you mentioned it it's 01:06:22.980 --> 01:06:25.070 you know words of mouth is very slow in it This 01:06:25.070 --> 01:06:28.650 bleeds right into courage courage And then the 01:06:28.650 --> 01:06:31.989 song ends on this huge almost chaotic in this 01:06:31.989 --> 01:06:34.489 repeating that I need courage and the drums are 01:06:34.489 --> 01:06:36.449 going crazy and there's all this guitar noise 01:06:36.449 --> 01:06:39.809 going on and it just Cuts out and you hear that 01:06:39.809 --> 01:06:42.150 guitar kind of just fading off and it's like 01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:44.750 this almost weird screech and then it goes back 01:06:44.750 --> 01:06:48.369 into a slow song and it's I Wouldn't want the 01:06:48.369 --> 01:06:50.110 song anywhere else on the album is a perfect 01:06:50.110 --> 01:06:53.139 track down for him That's it's interesting. You 01:06:53.139 --> 01:06:55.019 brought this up, Brandon, like songs bleeding 01:06:55.019 --> 01:06:59.760 into songs. I love an album that feels like a 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.420 song that it doesn't feel like there's a lot 01:07:02.420 --> 01:07:05.260 of like distinct breaks. But but I'm listening 01:07:05.260 --> 01:07:08.880 to a whole movement of music. And it's something 01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:12.579 that classical music used to do a lot. And I 01:07:12.579 --> 01:07:15.719 think it's so cool to see it show up on an album 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.659 because it makes it like you know today we're 01:07:18.659 --> 01:07:22.380 in a culture of singles and disjointed songs 01:07:22.380 --> 01:07:25.400 and it drives me crazy honestly because i love 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:26.960 sitting and listening to an album and something 01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:31.460 that feels cohesive and um this is probably getting 01:07:31.460 --> 01:07:33.079 into like final thoughts on the record but i 01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.460 feel like this record is so cohesive together 01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:40.039 um just moving well together so um we move to 01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.519 our final track uh the gates of paradise give 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.980 praise where praises do Joel, so tell us a little 01:07:46.980 --> 01:07:52.340 bit more about the cohesiveness. Yeah, so I love 01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:56.460 this track. I think when I first started listening 01:07:56.460 --> 01:07:58.699 to this album, this was my favorite song on the 01:07:58.699 --> 01:08:02.219 record. It does feel different than everything 01:08:02.219 --> 01:08:05.920 else on the album a little bit, but I love the 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:08.860 drums. I love the creativity of it. It's super 01:08:08.860 --> 01:08:13.099 simple. but everything is played really, really 01:08:13.099 --> 01:08:17.739 well and works really well together. I love the 01:08:17.739 --> 01:08:20.479 steadiness that are happening to the drums. It's 01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:24.359 a great contrast to the erratic drums that show 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:27.319 up throughout the album and I think are proof 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.579 just of Glenn's drumming that he can do any of 01:08:31.579 --> 01:08:36.739 it and pull it off really, really well. The lyrics 01:08:36.739 --> 01:08:40.579 I think are great. that like the half -life is 01:08:40.579 --> 01:08:46.579 strange, there's constant decay. It reminds me, 01:08:46.579 --> 01:08:49.119 we mentioned this earlier, we've been at our 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.100 church going through 2nd Timothy, Paul kind of 01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:54.420 looking back at his life and then looking forward 01:08:54.420 --> 01:08:56.399 to eternity, and I feel like that's what this 01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.579 song is, in a lot of ways that like what I've 01:09:00.579 --> 01:09:02.819 been living is like this half -life that's strange 01:09:02.819 --> 01:09:06.800 and there's constant decay to it, but there's 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.210 something coming and there's something ahead 01:09:09.210 --> 01:09:13.569 the gates of paradise and there's beauty beauty 01:09:13.569 --> 01:09:18.130 coming and so but also the idea that's there 01:09:18.130 --> 01:09:22.310 we talks about how there are others that that 01:09:22.310 --> 01:09:26.689 won't like won't believe at least he thinks so 01:09:26.689 --> 01:09:29.649 i think there's a lot going on lyrically that 01:09:29.649 --> 01:09:32.710 that i really love love about this song and i 01:09:32.710 --> 01:09:37.319 love how it kind of ends the record ends With 01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:39.699 the hope of that but also just kind of the song 01:09:39.699 --> 01:09:42.920 ends a little bit like unsettled And uh, and 01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.100 I think that that's such a beautiful ending to 01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:49.140 an album like this. So Yeah, you stole like all 01:09:49.140 --> 01:09:52.079 my thoughts Like I was really gonna say this 01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:54.100 ends the album on a very hopeful note, but it 01:09:54.100 --> 01:09:57.520 it does it's a very just It's cool going from 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.579 the chaos of courage courage. Yeah into this 01:10:00.579 --> 01:10:03.600 song. That's very hopeful and major key and uplifting 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:08.699 and Love this is a long song. It's eight minutes 01:10:08.699 --> 01:10:11.439 long. It is yeah, and you think like you're looking 01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:12.920 at the track list You're like man. This is a 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.699 long song. It's the last song on the album. It's 01:10:15.699 --> 01:10:18.600 gonna be long It's it doesn't feel like it's 01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.000 eight minutes It does a really good job of even 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.079 though it's the same drumbeat almost the entire 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:26.000 song It's this same like piano kind of thing 01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:29.239 going and it's it feels very it goes back to 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.619 it feels intentional. Yeah If the album needed 01:10:32.619 --> 01:10:35.899 to end on that really long song that the same 01:10:35.899 --> 01:10:40.279 beat going the whole time. I really love where 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:42.439 he does. He says the piano will play, then the 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.300 harmonium will play and you hear the piano and 01:10:44.300 --> 01:10:46.720 the harmonium. I love that. I love little details 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:50.319 like that. I think that's really cool. But this 01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.100 song also has. Probably my favorite line on the 01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:55.699 album says because unbelievers are strange. I 01:10:55.699 --> 01:10:58.180 loved a few I remember their names and you still 01:10:58.180 --> 01:11:00.439 think if they just had a taste but they won't 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.579 I think There's just something about his delivery 01:11:03.579 --> 01:11:07.340 and how the line comes out. It's so good. Mm 01:11:07.340 --> 01:11:12.159 -hmm. Yeah Yeah, I I think it's it's bold to 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.260 have like an eight minute song and um, and I 01:11:15.260 --> 01:11:20.420 think like It's I thought a lot about you know 01:11:20.390 --> 01:11:25.750 Where would I have moved it like is it You have 01:11:25.750 --> 01:11:28.930 this like bam bam bam at the beginning and at 01:11:28.930 --> 01:11:33.829 the end you have this like slow slow fast and 01:11:33.829 --> 01:11:38.149 like slow and it's like, you know what I've changed 01:11:38.149 --> 01:11:42.590 like it like where would I moved it to and kind 01:11:42.590 --> 01:11:44.449 of like stealing something like or building off 01:11:44.449 --> 01:11:47.510 of what you said was like the album is so cohesive 01:11:47.510 --> 01:11:50.789 that I'm like I wouldn't have moved this. Like 01:11:50.789 --> 01:11:54.550 there is no, you know, and I knew like, we've 01:11:54.550 --> 01:11:56.329 joked around the past that usually if an album 01:11:56.329 --> 01:11:58.770 ends on like a lower note, you're like, I know 01:11:58.770 --> 01:12:01.649 Brandon's not gonna be a fan of this. But like, 01:12:02.130 --> 01:12:04.789 I think the album works. And I think even like 01:12:04.789 --> 01:12:08.550 at a show, like I wouldn't find myself thinking, 01:12:09.010 --> 01:12:10.890 I wish he would have, you know, I wonder why 01:12:10.890 --> 01:12:14.300 he didn't end on this one. because I mean I think 01:12:14.300 --> 01:12:15.979 too like it would have been weird to have an 01:12:15.979 --> 01:12:18.380 eight minute song then jump into courage courage 01:12:18.380 --> 01:12:20.560 because I feel like it doesn't you know work 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:24.979 as much um but yeah I I think that it was and 01:12:24.979 --> 01:12:28.060 it was just like it felt so simple and kind of 01:12:28.060 --> 01:12:32.840 going back to um I think it was a trophies is 01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:36.340 that like I put down like it feels like a jam 01:12:36.340 --> 01:12:40.079 session and it's so simple and I think that You 01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:42.039 know when you say stuff or like, you know, I 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:45.680 mentioned the pest day a lot and that album I 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.539 tell people I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a 01:12:48.539 --> 01:12:50.920 guy just one day was like hey, let's record an 01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:52.560 album and he just went to his living room and 01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:56.159 recorded and I think that it can come across 01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:58.199 as Oh, so you don't think there's effort put 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.899 into this but I think like Sometimes that's the 01:13:01.899 --> 01:13:04.119 best thing is when it's simple. It's like don't 01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.239 you don't have to overdo it. You don't have to 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.739 have like a orchestra behind it you can have 01:13:09.739 --> 01:13:11.939 a powerful song with just an acoustic guitar 01:13:11.939 --> 01:13:15.840 or just someone singing you know and um so i 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.359 feel like it's it was a really cool way of ending 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:23.260 and you know it's not it goes back to i don't 01:13:23.260 --> 01:13:25.359 find myself wanting to skip it like i don't get 01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:27.659 to minute three and think okay i know what you're 01:13:27.659 --> 01:13:30.119 doing here i'm you know i'm just gonna say that 01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:33.039 this song was good and head out Cause it's like, 01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.859 I want to see where it goes because I, I don't 01:13:35.859 --> 01:13:37.699 know what's going to come at minutes seven, you 01:13:37.699 --> 01:13:40.779 know, on this track. And, um, so I feel like 01:13:40.779 --> 01:13:42.699 it was a, it was a really cool way to, uh, kind 01:13:42.699 --> 01:13:46.539 of wrap up and end the album. That's cool. All 01:13:46.539 --> 01:13:49.800 right. Well, we did it track by track. Um, we 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:51.739 can talk a little bit about kind of our final 01:13:51.739 --> 01:13:54.460 thoughts and give our rating. Um, and I can, 01:13:54.460 --> 01:13:57.560 I can lead off on that. I, I, I said this a second 01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:04.220 ago. Um, I think this album is, um, really cohesive 01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:09.579 as a record that I wouldn't change any track 01:14:09.579 --> 01:14:13.859 order. Honestly, I don't think I would really 01:14:13.859 --> 01:14:17.239 change anything about it, which is really rare 01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:21.079 for me with an album, but I feel like it's one 01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:26.060 that does everything right. This is like luxury. 01:14:26.350 --> 01:14:30.850 you know I don't know 3 .0 or whatever and stylistically 01:14:30.850 --> 01:14:34.489 like at least and they just nail it. It's wild 01:14:34.489 --> 01:14:40.210 to me that a band can be really active and do 01:14:40.210 --> 01:14:44.210 well and then take a break for 10 years and come 01:14:44.210 --> 01:14:48.090 together and make their best album after that. 01:14:48.090 --> 01:14:50.289 It's just not something that you see happening 01:14:50.289 --> 01:14:56.199 and so I'm blown away by it. I love everything 01:14:56.199 --> 01:15:00.779 about it. And I highly encourage people to go 01:15:00.779 --> 01:15:03.039 listen to it if you've never listened to it before. 01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:06.760 And so I have a hard time. I honestly, I wrote 01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:08.560 down all my notes. Brandon, you know how I do 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:12.989 this. I usually rate every song. and then come 01:15:12.989 --> 01:15:15.489 back and average out a rating. And I'm like, 01:15:15.630 --> 01:15:17.289 I don't even know how to rate any of these songs 01:15:17.289 --> 01:15:19.529 because I love them all so much. I'm like, are 01:15:19.529 --> 01:15:23.430 they all five? Are they all five to me? And I 01:15:23.430 --> 01:15:25.529 ended up giving one of them a four point five, 01:15:27.189 --> 01:15:29.149 which averaged out to a four point nine. But 01:15:29.149 --> 01:15:31.310 honestly, you know what? I'm just going to go 01:15:31.310 --> 01:15:33.770 ahead and give it five stars because I love it. 01:15:33.869 --> 01:15:37.720 And I feel like in the last 10 years. This is 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:39.880 the new Christian album that's come out in the 01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:41.920 last 10 years that I've listened to more than 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:46.359 any other record. And every time I listen to 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:50.319 it, I just love it. And so this is my first five 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:53.140 stars on the podcast. I would have been annoyed 01:15:53.140 --> 01:15:57.199 if you would have given a 4 .9. Just give it 01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:03.600 a five. I love it. I think that's that's really 01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:07.180 cool. I know that like When I you know, we mentioned 01:16:07.180 --> 01:16:09.819 the gable price when I gave it a five I feel 01:16:09.819 --> 01:16:11.920 like I wrestled a lot because it is like this 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:15.479 weird like I don't know a five is I feel like 01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.279 it's this rare atmosphere of like I wouldn't 01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:21.020 change anything or this changed my life or whatever 01:16:21.020 --> 01:16:24.000 And so I feel like that's that's cool. Um cameron, 01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:28.000 how about you? Uh, it's just such a good album. 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:32.079 Joel's told about all my thoughts on it. So um 01:16:32.380 --> 01:16:35.239 You know, I mentioned before we started recording 01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:39.260 was that I love a really good comeback album. 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:41.460 A lot of my favorite albums are comeback albums. 01:16:41.579 --> 01:16:44.640 And to me, this is like the ideal comeback album. 01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:47.319 Like I mentioned before, it's very mature. It 01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:51.439 shows an artist that took some time off and came 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.159 back and they applied their life and what they've 01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:56.939 done and how they've changed and apply it to 01:16:56.939 --> 01:16:58.979 their music and their art. And it comes across 01:16:58.979 --> 01:17:02.449 so well. I like to I think I mentioned before 01:17:02.449 --> 01:17:05.109 I like to you know Listen to other podcasts and 01:17:05.109 --> 01:17:07.250 read other reviews when going into something 01:17:07.250 --> 01:17:08.770 like this. I like to hear what other people have 01:17:08.770 --> 01:17:12.810 to say too and It's a guy named Alan Parrish. 01:17:12.810 --> 01:17:15.069 He has a page called turn off the radio. It's 01:17:15.069 --> 01:17:17.310 a really cool guy He reviewed this album when 01:17:17.310 --> 01:17:20.289 it came out and he said Something in the sorts 01:17:20.289 --> 01:17:22.369 of you know, you see a lot of bands that are 01:17:22.369 --> 01:17:24.710 from the 1990s had a short -lived career They 01:17:24.710 --> 01:17:27.029 come back and they put out a new album after 01:17:27.029 --> 01:17:30.550 you know, 10 20 years and it's fine Yeah, but 01:17:30.550 --> 01:17:32.630 you still want to listen to their old stuff more 01:17:32.630 --> 01:17:35.750 This album is not like that. Like luxury is absolutely 01:17:35.750 --> 01:17:37.970 exception. I will go to trophies before I will 01:17:37.970 --> 01:17:40.729 any other stuff any day Not that it's bad. It's 01:17:40.729 --> 01:17:43.869 great. But trophies does such a good job of like 01:17:43.869 --> 01:17:47.649 capturing The maturing of a band I think all 01:17:47.649 --> 01:17:50.069 their releases do that from their first album 01:17:50.069 --> 01:17:53.279 to latest and greatest like There's a maturing 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:56.500 there lyrically, especially then from there to 01:17:56.500 --> 01:17:58.840 self -titled. There's more maturing but trophies 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:02.600 really just showcases What I meant to grow up 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:07.520 and be more mature with your music. Yeah So, 01:18:07.659 --> 01:18:09.840 what would you what would you give it as a rating? 01:18:10.500 --> 01:18:13.979 I have to give it five stars. It's my second 01:18:13.979 --> 01:18:15.920 favorite album all the time. I can't not give 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:20.380 it five stars I love it. This is the first ever 01:18:20.489 --> 01:18:23.789 Two five -star ratings. It is on the podcast. 01:18:24.390 --> 01:18:28.130 So Brandon, we're ready to be a bracket. Yeah 01:18:28.130 --> 01:18:33.630 No, I um I I feel like whenever like i'm giving 01:18:33.630 --> 01:18:35.909 something like lower than people I have to be 01:18:35.909 --> 01:18:40.869 like no, it is still good and all No, I um As 01:18:40.869 --> 01:18:46.970 I go into it, but um, I think that um this album 01:18:46.970 --> 01:18:50.090 it definitely like I won't say like exceeded 01:18:50.090 --> 01:18:52.149 because it's not like I question like Joel's 01:18:52.149 --> 01:18:55.569 like music taste, but I think whenever like Joel 01:18:55.569 --> 01:18:58.430 is telling me about like man, this is like incredible 01:18:58.430 --> 01:19:02.970 like I think I definitely I saw where it was 01:19:02.970 --> 01:19:06.210 coming from and I think that it's definitely 01:19:06.210 --> 01:19:09.250 a album that the more you listen to the more 01:19:09.250 --> 01:19:12.529 like it grows and I think that like it almost 01:19:12.529 --> 01:19:14.470 looks like sad because I almost want to give 01:19:14.470 --> 01:19:18.369 it a like a preemptive like, well, here's where 01:19:18.369 --> 01:19:20.789 I am now, but here's, you know, where I'm going 01:19:20.789 --> 01:19:23.949 to be or whatever. And I mean, I think it checks 01:19:23.949 --> 01:19:26.390 the boxes of I'll definitely like, you know, 01:19:26.489 --> 01:19:28.770 after after listening to this, I'll definitely 01:19:28.770 --> 01:19:30.930 be interested in like, hey, where should I dive 01:19:30.930 --> 01:19:32.590 in? You know, should I keep going with newer 01:19:32.590 --> 01:19:35.989 stuff? Should I start from the beginning? And 01:19:35.989 --> 01:19:39.050 I think that like, that's it's something to be 01:19:39.050 --> 01:19:41.090 said that the thing that an album suffers for 01:19:41.090 --> 01:19:44.550 is like when you're not like you don't know the 01:19:44.550 --> 01:19:47.430 band. I think that's always like, it's almost 01:19:47.430 --> 01:19:50.850 like a, it's a good sign of like, you know, it's 01:19:50.850 --> 01:19:52.970 not that the lyrics were missing or whatever. 01:19:53.710 --> 01:19:55.810 So I feel like for me, like it lands, it may 01:19:55.810 --> 01:19:59.250 be like a 3 .5, which I mean, I know that like 01:19:59.250 --> 01:20:02.189 compared to like two, two, five stars, it seems 01:20:02.189 --> 01:20:06.949 like super low. But I think that like, it's definitely 01:20:06.949 --> 01:20:10.770 a, you know, the more you dive into it and you 01:20:10.770 --> 01:20:13.720 get to know, cause I think stuff like the the 01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:16.539 years, like, you know, for me it was, oh, I wonder 01:20:16.539 --> 01:20:18.279 why he's mentioning the years. And then for you, 01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:20.800 you're like, oh no, this is what, you know, made 01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:24.520 that jump. And, you know, I think it's a lot 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.840 like Five Iron Frenzy. Like, I'm honestly, I'm 01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.180 super excited for the next Five Iron Frenzy album 01:20:30.180 --> 01:20:33.279 we do, because now, like, I go into it with, 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:36.260 here's what I need to look for, not like, I'm 01:20:36.260 --> 01:20:41.880 frustrated with this song. But yeah, I... I think 01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:43.859 it was really cool and I loved getting to like 01:20:43.859 --> 01:20:46.939 dive into like a band that's like Made such an 01:20:46.939 --> 01:20:49.479 impact and I think too, you know at the beginning 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:53.399 like whenever Cameron was like Yeah, like, you 01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:55.380 know, I grew up in high school with this or whatever 01:20:55.380 --> 01:20:57.279 like I was kind of thinking about how like when 01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:59.340 we've sat down before and I make a comment about 01:20:59.340 --> 01:21:01.460 I was in high school and you're like, okay Brandon 01:21:01.460 --> 01:21:03.859 like that makes me feel old that that was your 01:21:03.859 --> 01:21:07.079 high school and um you know, I think it's so 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:10.680 cool that you have a band in an album that like 01:21:11.230 --> 01:21:14.270 Can make that impact like it's not just well 01:21:14.270 --> 01:21:16.590 once you have kids in turn, you know, whatever 01:21:16.590 --> 01:21:19.210 you'll appreciate it or if you're younger you 01:21:19.210 --> 01:21:21.210 appreciate it I think it's cool that you can 01:21:21.210 --> 01:21:25.930 have like this span of like no like you can sit 01:21:25.930 --> 01:21:28.270 down and appreciate this like no matter like 01:21:28.270 --> 01:21:30.670 how old you are or like your life experience 01:21:30.670 --> 01:21:34.550 or whatever and So I mean, yeah, I feel like 01:21:34.550 --> 01:21:36.829 I'm kind of jealous that you guys I wish I would 01:21:36.829 --> 01:21:38.310 because like Joel when he mentioned there was 01:21:38.310 --> 01:21:40.729 a documentary about the band I had told Joel, 01:21:40.770 --> 01:21:43.229 I was like, Joel, this might be unfair, but I 01:21:43.229 --> 01:21:45.329 think that's automatically you get an extra point. 01:21:45.329 --> 01:21:47.149 And so I feel like if I would have watched the 01:21:47.149 --> 01:21:48.689 documentary, you're probably looking at like 01:21:48.689 --> 01:21:53.130 a 4 .5 album. Oh, I agree. So even like after 01:21:53.130 --> 01:21:55.590 this, like I'm excited to find some time, you 01:21:55.590 --> 01:21:59.449 know, this week to sit down and get to, you know, 01:21:59.529 --> 01:22:01.569 I joked earlier too, that like, I'll probably 01:22:01.569 --> 01:22:03.529 end up watching the documentary, then just rerecord 01:22:03.529 --> 01:22:05.850 all of my stuff. So if you're listening this, 01:22:06.050 --> 01:22:10.539 like. That's awesome. Brandon, I'm just excited 01:22:10.539 --> 01:22:13.699 to expose you to this band, because they are 01:22:13.699 --> 01:22:16.340 just one that that I love in this album, too. 01:22:16.500 --> 01:22:18.739 And so it's fun to get to do that. And I'm really 01:22:18.739 --> 01:22:22.369 thankful, Cameron, for you because I was I have 01:22:22.369 --> 01:22:23.890 this thing where I'm like, man, I don't want 01:22:23.890 --> 01:22:26.569 to cover all of my like jump right into all my 01:22:26.569 --> 01:22:30.069 favorite albums, you know. And so it's like finding 01:22:30.069 --> 01:22:32.829 the right person to come on and like celebrate 01:22:32.829 --> 01:22:36.270 it with and and give it give it its due. And 01:22:36.270 --> 01:22:39.529 when I saw it show up on your list of like three 01:22:39.529 --> 01:22:41.289 records that you would want to talk about, I'm 01:22:41.289 --> 01:22:44.329 like. I love that this guy, like this is like 01:22:44.329 --> 01:22:46.130 one of the top three records that he would want 01:22:46.130 --> 01:22:48.890 to talk about. And so it's been so fun to talk 01:22:48.890 --> 01:22:50.890 about it with you two and just get to celebrate 01:22:50.890 --> 01:22:54.029 all the goodness of it. Yeah. And so and I'll 01:22:54.029 --> 01:22:57.010 point out to go check it out, go listen to it. 01:22:57.250 --> 01:22:59.470 You can still buy this record on vinyl and you 01:22:59.470 --> 01:23:02.189 should buy it on vinyl. It's available from luxury. 01:23:02.369 --> 01:23:04.609 Actually, all their albums are available on vinyl. 01:23:05.170 --> 01:23:07.149 And and so don't miss out on that. And they've 01:23:07.149 --> 01:23:10.579 done a really good job with. the vinyl releases 01:23:10.579 --> 01:23:13.319 for their records yeah they like to it seems 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:14.880 like they like to really keep up with their old 01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.220 releases they have a lot of even their demo stuff 01:23:17.220 --> 01:23:19.619 on bandcamp and stuff which is really yeah yeah 01:23:19.619 --> 01:23:23.479 it's really really really great so um man this 01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.220 has been really cool so let's uh let's kind of 01:23:26.220 --> 01:23:28.720 wrap up and talk about our lyric of the week 01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:41.899 Alright, well the lyric of the week comes from 01:23:41.899 --> 01:23:45.340 the song trophies Take your time when you're 01:23:45.340 --> 01:23:48.600 working it out in your head on the bed where 01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:52.340 you hardly move in the afternoon There's no way 01:23:52.340 --> 01:23:54.619 to undo what you did. There's no way to unlive 01:23:54.619 --> 01:23:57.640 what you lived. There's just consequence There's 01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.060 always a glove that fits. I know I mentioned 01:24:00.060 --> 01:24:03.539 that earlier, but I just love I love the writing 01:24:03.539 --> 01:24:06.100 Please such a good writer. It's unbelievable. 01:24:06.340 --> 01:24:11.539 And so It was fun to get to dig into all that. 01:24:11.859 --> 01:24:13.720 All right, Cameron, anything that you would want 01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.520 to say to people about Tooth and Nail News or 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.560 how they can connect with you? Yeah, check me 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:22.539 out on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. Cool stuff 01:24:22.539 --> 01:24:27.520 coming, hopefully. Yeah. Just excited to keep 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:29.340 seeing the page grow and see where it goes. Yeah, 01:24:29.340 --> 01:24:31.640 we are too, man It's been fun to get to watch 01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:34.619 it and uh, i'm thankful that I have a place that 01:24:34.619 --> 01:24:36.779 lets me know what john van deessen commented 01:24:36.779 --> 01:24:40.960 When I missed it and so it's Thanks for catching 01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:44.020 it for me and uh allowing me to know that he 01:24:44.020 --> 01:24:46.079 actually is probably going to put that record 01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:48.600 out on vinyl It's great. It's great. Yeah, he's 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:52.819 he's thinking about us For sure. 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