WEBVTT 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:33.539 Are you All right, well, welcome to Hey, Are 00:00:33.539 --> 00:00:36.000 You Listening? This is a podcast exploring the 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.719 past, present, and future of Christian music. 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.659 My name is Joel. I'm here with my good friend 00:00:40.659 --> 00:00:44.320 Brandon. And we connected over mutual love of 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.840 some particular artists, but also have pretty 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.880 different tastes when it comes to things. And 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.140 so we get to experience new stuff from each other 00:00:52.140 --> 00:00:54.640 while inviting some friends along for the ride 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.759 sometimes. Brandon, how's it going today? It's 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.030 going really well. I was just finishing up a 00:01:00.030 --> 00:01:02.710 candy bar before we started recording. So it's 00:01:02.710 --> 00:01:05.209 always good. We're getting into a habit of uh, 00:01:05.209 --> 00:01:07.090 when I ask you that question, you're usually 00:01:07.090 --> 00:01:09.810 finishing up a snack and you mention it on the 00:01:09.810 --> 00:01:12.489 air. You know, I, I feel like I've really wanted 00:01:12.489 --> 00:01:14.909 to have a drink sponsor, but maybe like a snack 00:01:14.909 --> 00:01:18.549 sponsor is like better. I, to be honest, last 00:01:18.549 --> 00:01:21.650 night I was um, looking through my Instagram 00:01:21.650 --> 00:01:23.870 at a couple of different like, you know, like 00:01:23.870 --> 00:01:26.810 energy drinks and I was thinking to myself like, 00:01:26.939 --> 00:01:28.819 man i wonder what they would do if i sent some 00:01:28.819 --> 00:01:31.239 like pitch to them saying like hey do you want 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:35.120 to sponsor me i've got nascar podcast as also 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.459 christian music and i was like i wonder well 00:01:38.459 --> 00:01:40.719 who's the energy drink out there that matches 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.659 like man that's that's who we are nascar and 00:01:43.659 --> 00:01:46.700 christian music you you're the one but i don't 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:48.859 know and also i feel like that sponsorship would 00:01:48.859 --> 00:01:51.819 be pretty lost on me considering i don't consume 00:01:51.819 --> 00:01:54.959 energy you just have to pretend You just, we 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.599 would add in a fake sip. So it's like, ah, that's 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.579 pretty refreshing. I feel like this is a sponsorship 00:02:00.579 --> 00:02:04.480 that only benefits you. Um, if anything, I feel 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.159 like it should probably be Bojangles at this 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.539 point. Oh man. Yeah. So we just pivot to a restaurant 00:02:10.539 --> 00:02:13.259 so we get drink and food. Yeah. It makes sense 00:02:13.259 --> 00:02:16.240 to me. Makes sense to me for sure. All right. 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:18.520 Well, let's kind of get into where we're going. 00:02:18.620 --> 00:02:20.919 Um, today let's kick off talking about what's 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:26.560 in the news. So what's been going on in the world 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.620 of Christian music? I feel like just from our 00:02:28.620 --> 00:02:30.800 conversations, what we've noticed is there's 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.319 a lot of artists that haven't done anything in 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:36.580 a long time that all of a sudden are releasing 00:02:36.580 --> 00:02:38.719 or announcing that they're releasing new music, 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.439 which is kind of a fun thing. And so I've got 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.500 a couple that I've been paying close attention 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:49.080 to. One, I've probably mentioned before, actually, 00:02:49.139 --> 00:02:50.780 I don't know if I have on the podcast, but one 00:02:50.780 --> 00:02:54.129 of my favorite bands. back from like high school 00:02:54.129 --> 00:02:59.569 is a band called PFR, Pray for Rain. And they're 00:02:59.569 --> 00:03:05.849 one of the biggies back in the time. You had 00:03:05.849 --> 00:03:08.669 your DC Talks, you had your Jars of Clay, your 00:03:08.669 --> 00:03:13.030 audio adrenaline, Third Day. And PFR was probably 00:03:13.030 --> 00:03:19.180 like up there. um in with those bands but like 00:03:19.180 --> 00:03:21.560 for whatever reason they were never like the 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.599 level of some of those some of those bands but 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.819 for me at the time they were they were it um 00:03:28.819 --> 00:03:32.780 and so my love for pfr far exceeded my love for 00:03:32.780 --> 00:03:34.620 all those other bands and so they haven't done 00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:38.379 anything in years at this point but they just 00:03:38.379 --> 00:03:41.060 finished tracking a brand new record called the 00:03:41.060 --> 00:03:45.129 target in the arrow and uh i uh I crowdfunded 00:03:45.129 --> 00:03:49.830 this thing and I'm so excited to hear it and 00:03:49.830 --> 00:03:52.210 get it in my hands. One of my all time favorite 00:03:52.210 --> 00:03:55.789 bands and so I'm really pumped. You ever listen 00:03:55.789 --> 00:03:59.069 to any BFR? I'm going through and I don't, I 00:03:59.069 --> 00:04:04.050 don't recognize but it looks like 2001 or so 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:06.310 was kind of like when they, everything else since 00:04:06.310 --> 00:04:10.009 then has been live like recordings or best of. 00:04:10.069 --> 00:04:13.810 Yeah. I saw they were on squint. I feel like 00:04:13.810 --> 00:04:16.170 I need to go back and just do a deep dive on 00:04:16.170 --> 00:04:18.829 What was going on at squint during this time? 00:04:18.829 --> 00:04:22.689 Yeah, so weirdly enough their last record Disappear 00:04:22.689 --> 00:04:26.589 came out on squint. So they broke up And then 00:04:26.589 --> 00:04:30.850 got back together and put out disappear and Steve 00:04:30.850 --> 00:04:33.899 Taylor at squint was like I think Martin Ash, 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:38.220 their drummer, was like the A &R guy at Squint. 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:41.379 So I don't know if that's kind of like a backdoor 00:04:41.379 --> 00:04:44.300 deal or whatever, but apparently as the story 00:04:44.300 --> 00:04:49.300 goes, he told Steve Taylor, hey, PFR. We're working 00:04:49.300 --> 00:04:52.579 on this new record that we'd like to do and Steve 00:04:52.579 --> 00:04:54.860 Taylor was like well does squints gonna put it 00:04:54.860 --> 00:04:59.459 out And so that's what ended up happening. But 00:04:59.459 --> 00:05:02.980 apparently like a week after the album came out 00:05:02.980 --> 00:05:06.680 Squint folded as a label and so the record just 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.819 kind of got lost in the midst of all that stuff 00:05:09.819 --> 00:05:12.360 happening Which is kind of a bummer. So they 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.540 actually just Did a crowdfunding, a Kickstarter 00:05:15.540 --> 00:05:18.040 to re -release that record, remaster it and put 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.360 it out on vinyl for the first time. Because I 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.180 think it's been missing from streaming services 00:05:23.180 --> 00:05:25.699 and like really hard to get on CD because they 00:05:25.699 --> 00:05:30.220 only made a few of them. Um, and so it's, I mean, 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.680 it's called disappear, but it literally disappeared. 00:05:33.180 --> 00:05:35.899 Um, so yeah. And then they haven't done anything 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:38.540 since then maybe because of what happened through 00:05:38.540 --> 00:05:41.399 all that. Um, but it's fun that they've got something 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.990 new coming out. For sure, so I'm pumped about 00:05:43.990 --> 00:05:46.629 that one. I know you've got one too, right? Yeah, 00:05:46.629 --> 00:05:50.110 Family Force 5 they have on their social media 00:05:50.110 --> 00:05:53.670 There's been a lot of teases lately. So people 00:05:53.670 --> 00:05:56.709 don't really know if it's You know first people 00:05:56.709 --> 00:05:59.329 were like, oh it's new music but someone else 00:05:59.329 --> 00:06:03.129 was like maybe it's an anniversary tour of some 00:06:03.129 --> 00:06:06.290 of their stuff and But it looks really cool because 00:06:06.290 --> 00:06:10.350 it looks like it's all of the original people 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:13.220 getting back together And um, I feel like if 00:06:13.220 --> 00:06:15.500 you move force five was definitely a band that 00:06:15.500 --> 00:06:18.920 You know, um, I know that like a lot of people 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.439 really enjoyed. Um, like when crouton took over 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:24.720 Um, I feel if you don't know the band you start 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:26.779 hearing stuff like solo crouton. You're like, 00:06:26.980 --> 00:06:31.519 are you just making up names? Um But I feel like 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.180 with a lot of bands it just it's hard to capture 00:06:34.180 --> 00:06:38.120 the magic of the original lineup And so I think 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.220 that as a Family Force V fan, if that's the case, 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.220 it's really cool to see even if it's just coming 00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:47.000 back and celebrating some of the older stuff. 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.800 So yeah, it's pretty cool seeing all that stuff 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:55.379 kind of get teased. So are we unclear still as 00:06:55.379 --> 00:06:59.040 to what the thing is that's being teased or do 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.350 we have clarity about it? no it's still um it's 00:07:02.350 --> 00:07:04.750 kind of just from what i've seen it's just kind 00:07:04.750 --> 00:07:10.050 of people saying oh is it gonna be a like a reunion 00:07:10.050 --> 00:07:13.629 thing or whatever um i think for me that's what 00:07:13.629 --> 00:07:15.970 i'm kind of assuming because i think two people 00:07:15.970 --> 00:07:20.189 make this they make this um this mistake of expecting 00:07:20.189 --> 00:07:25.209 the the moon or something and um you know i remember 00:07:25.209 --> 00:07:28.649 years ago whenever um Like people wanted DC talk 00:07:28.649 --> 00:07:32.389 to return and then they released that um Was 00:07:32.389 --> 00:07:35.610 a song um, love feels like on toby mack's album 00:07:35.610 --> 00:07:38.589 and people were like, oh this is terrible And 00:07:38.589 --> 00:07:40.810 i'm like you guys don't understand if they came 00:07:40.810 --> 00:07:43.410 out today. That's what they would sound like 00:07:43.410 --> 00:07:45.790 You know, they're not gonna release like 90s, 00:07:45.790 --> 00:07:49.310 you know sounding or whatever and um So yeah 00:07:49.310 --> 00:07:51.870 for me it'd be cool just uh, just to see them 00:07:51.870 --> 00:07:54.189 like live again because I feel like they're live 00:07:54.189 --> 00:07:57.639 shows was so cool was there's a lot of production 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:00.980 with like Family Force 5 and stuff going on and 00:08:00.980 --> 00:08:03.959 so it was really cool to see them in like a you 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.600 know, like a Arena or whatever but also just 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.879 one of my favorite shows was they did acoustic 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.800 show and It was just so cool because it was all 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.300 of their antics and it was crazy and all this 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:18.079 stuff But it was still just such a good like 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.399 show and I feel like at their shows you felt 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.920 like you were part of them whether it was a thousand 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.360 people or whether it was 10 000 people you felt 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.660 like you you were in the like a part of the show 00:08:30.660 --> 00:08:34.139 and you were seen by them so yeah i'm definitely 00:08:34.139 --> 00:08:36.840 interested i've been following this on social 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.100 media and seeing a lot about it but especially 00:08:40.100 --> 00:08:43.659 i feel like with my way less knowledge about 00:08:43.659 --> 00:08:46.059 the band than you have I've just kind of been 00:08:46.059 --> 00:08:48.220 like, I'm not sure what's going on right now. 00:08:48.740 --> 00:08:50.899 I don't know what's happening. As a fan of the 00:08:50.899 --> 00:08:53.820 bait, I don't know what's going on. Good. I'm 00:08:53.820 --> 00:08:56.120 glad I'm not the only one that, uh, that feels 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.740 that way. Um, one more for me, that's been kind 00:08:58.740 --> 00:09:02.419 of cool. Um, one of my, um, probably even earlier 00:09:02.419 --> 00:09:06.740 than my love for PFR, um, um, there's a guy named 00:09:06.740 --> 00:09:12.190 Wes King, um, who, um, Hasn't put out any music 00:09:12.190 --> 00:09:14.710 for like the last 25 years and he's kind of in 00:09:14.710 --> 00:09:19.129 that like a singer -songwriter CCM like in the 00:09:19.129 --> 00:09:22.830 earlier days of CCM in your like Michael B Smith 00:09:22.830 --> 00:09:26.289 Amy Grant like Steven Curtis Chapman time frame 00:09:26.289 --> 00:09:29.049 guy who's putting putting out records and I always 00:09:29.049 --> 00:09:33.690 felt like for West King His albums were a little 00:09:33.690 --> 00:09:36.750 more like thoughtful than some of the others 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.960 Um, plus he's one of the best guitar players 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.080 that, um, that I have ever heard. And so, um, 00:09:45.179 --> 00:09:47.840 his, it's actually like a lot of his music that 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:51.419 made me want to play guitar to begin with is 00:09:51.419 --> 00:09:54.460 I really love some of his stuff and great singer 00:09:54.460 --> 00:09:58.080 and great songwriter. And so, and he's He is, 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.659 um, working on his first record in 25 years. 00:10:02.059 --> 00:10:04.720 Um, and he's walked through a lot, uh, a cancer 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:06.980 diagnosis that's kind of like held him back from 00:10:06.980 --> 00:10:09.740 making music for the last, who knows how long, 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.720 but, uh, it's cool to see, um, I follow him on 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:15.899 social media and it's cool to see like pieces 00:10:15.899 --> 00:10:18.919 of this kind of come back together. So it'll 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:20.960 be really interesting to see, see what happens 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.039 with that. So. Cool. Well, they got some fun 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.259 stuff coming out. So that's gonna be really fun 00:10:26.259 --> 00:10:28.480 to dig into Brandon What what have you been listening 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.299 to lately? Oh, man this I'd say this week whenever 00:10:33.299 --> 00:10:37.879 this came out recently It was a really cool day. 00:10:37.899 --> 00:10:42.360 So colony house they released their 77 part two 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.559 and It's something that I feel with their music 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.840 you have to give it a couple of lessons, too 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.059 So it's not something you listen to and you're 00:10:50.059 --> 00:10:55.379 like this is bad or good But I I enjoyed it with 00:10:55.379 --> 00:10:59.320 my first like listen listen through I enjoyed 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:02.440 it I'm really interested to see how like other 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:06.000 people like look at it because like I said their 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:12.159 first part one was pretty like Like mixed with 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.480 some people saying like oh this was not this 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.100 is a step back and other people being like man 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:19.779 This is a good album. So I'm interested to see 00:11:19.779 --> 00:11:22.620 and then Gable price and friends they came out 00:11:22.620 --> 00:11:27.580 a song too good and it is really really good 00:11:27.580 --> 00:11:34.159 It's really good though. It's kind of about um, 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:37.559 like the commercialization of the like church 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.139 and all so I feel like it is um It's a really 00:11:41.139 --> 00:11:43.600 good song and when you start like listening to 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:45.679 the lyrics, it's a very like convicting song 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:50.049 as well Yeah, and um, I just I think that Think 00:11:50.049 --> 00:11:53.610 right now like those are two bands that You didn't 00:11:53.610 --> 00:11:55.769 for anyone who says like man there. There's no 00:11:55.769 --> 00:11:58.250 good music out nowadays I feel like those are 00:11:58.250 --> 00:12:00.830 two bands that I would direct people to to say 00:12:00.830 --> 00:12:03.750 no these people are releasing stuff That is you 00:12:03.750 --> 00:12:07.049 know, really really good. So that's cool. I'm 00:12:07.049 --> 00:12:09.370 glad you got two things from two your favorite 00:12:09.370 --> 00:12:11.629 artists I've been wanting to hear your take on 00:12:11.629 --> 00:12:14.690 the colony house thing So I knew it was coming 00:12:14.690 --> 00:12:16.350 and I'm like can't wait to hear what Miranda 00:12:16.350 --> 00:12:20.769 thinks about it. So Yeah, that's cool. For me, 00:12:21.129 --> 00:12:23.850 a band that I got into just like a year and a 00:12:23.850 --> 00:12:27.070 half ago, I saw them at the last Furnace Fest 00:12:27.070 --> 00:12:28.950 that I went to and listened to them a little 00:12:28.950 --> 00:12:32.830 bit leading up to it is a band called Idle Threat 00:12:32.830 --> 00:12:36.269 and they're a tooth and nail band, like a now 00:12:36.269 --> 00:12:39.070 tooth and nail band. So they only have one record 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:42.529 out and it's on Tooth and Nail, Blurred Visions. 00:12:43.049 --> 00:12:45.990 And they have announced a new record that they've 00:12:45.990 --> 00:12:49.100 been working on for a while. and just this past 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:51.759 week released the first single from that record 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:56.820 called ever mind and I Absolutely love it. I 00:12:56.820 --> 00:12:59.379 Don't listen to like a ton of like heavy music 00:12:59.379 --> 00:13:04.039 anymore. Mm -hmm But they are a heavy band that 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.620 I love and I'm into you and I think part of it 00:13:07.620 --> 00:13:13.929 is just the the forward -facingness about their 00:13:13.929 --> 00:13:16.889 faith that they bring to it, but you just don't 00:13:16.889 --> 00:13:20.470 get a lot out of artists. But there's a lot of 00:13:20.470 --> 00:13:23.210 textures to their music and I really, really, 00:13:23.210 --> 00:13:27.149 really like it. And so this new album, I feel 00:13:27.149 --> 00:13:31.450 like is gonna be a big one, a really big one. 00:13:31.529 --> 00:13:34.289 And so I'm excited for where it's gonna take 00:13:34.289 --> 00:13:36.389 them and really excited to be able to spend some 00:13:36.389 --> 00:13:39.620 time listening to it too, but. Um ever mind by 00:13:39.620 --> 00:13:42.460 idle threat. I uh, I highly recommend you checking 00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:46.659 out so it's cool. All right, let's play a game 00:13:46.659 --> 00:14:04.779 Yeah, so joel so this week um We are sitting 00:14:04.779 --> 00:14:09.139 down with brian olson from vota And uh, they 00:14:09.139 --> 00:14:12.340 recently had an album that came out that was 00:14:12.340 --> 00:14:16.440 titled I've got to pull up because for some reason 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.360 I keep on wanting to Change it to back to the 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:21.220 beginning but it's back to the start to the start 00:14:21.220 --> 00:14:23.639 So I've got to make sure that I say the right 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.500 thing so people don't pull up like can't find 00:14:25.500 --> 00:14:28.720 this beginning album So in honor of that one, 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.340 I want to take a look back and play a game where 00:14:31.340 --> 00:14:33.840 i'm going to give you two bands and you're going 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:38.059 to tell me which one like released their album 00:14:38.059 --> 00:14:41.159 first. So we're not going back when they started 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.100 because I feel like it's kind of you know they 00:14:44.100 --> 00:14:46.419 might say well we started playing music in 1995 00:14:46.419 --> 00:14:48.539 or whatever. So what we're doing is when they 00:14:48.539 --> 00:14:53.360 released their first album and this is like whatever 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.200 so if it's independent it's independent. So I'll 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.059 let you know some of these bands did release 00:14:58.059 --> 00:15:01.779 stuff where it was Independent and then four 00:15:01.779 --> 00:15:04.240 years later they got picked up by a label or 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.980 whatever. Gotcha So I'm gonna give you two bands 00:15:06.980 --> 00:15:11.159 and you tell me which one Released their first 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.100 album first. I feel pretty good about this, but 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:16.899 we'll see how it goes I'm I will say I'm glad 00:15:16.899 --> 00:15:19.340 that I'm on this side of the computer because 00:15:19.340 --> 00:15:22.840 some of these did surprise me I don't have their 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.139 album pulled up either. So I had the year here 00:15:25.139 --> 00:15:27.240 Okay, so if you are wanting to dispute anything, 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:31.169 we'll have to dive into that Okay, first off, 00:15:31.210 --> 00:15:35.970 which one released their debut album first skillet 00:15:35.970 --> 00:15:44.490 or casting crowns? Oh Man So I remember when 00:15:44.490 --> 00:15:47.509 the first skillet record came out at least what 00:15:47.509 --> 00:15:50.070 I think is their first record on forefront. Mm 00:15:50.070 --> 00:15:52.970 -hmm Self -titled had a skillet on the cover. 00:15:52.970 --> 00:15:59.139 That was probably 95 If I had to make a guess 00:15:59.139 --> 00:16:03.919 off the top of my head, maybe we're celebrating 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.299 30 years of Skillet right now. I was about to 00:16:06.299 --> 00:16:08.320 say I can confirm the year, but I was like, that's 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:10.980 going to completely throw it off if I say, I'll 00:16:10.980 --> 00:16:12.639 give you the two years, then you decide. I'll 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.399 be honest. Casting Crowns, I don't know as much 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:21.419 about, but let's just say Skillet. You're right. 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.419 Skillets was 1996. So close. So we're really 00:16:24.419 --> 00:16:28.240 close. Casting crowns was 2001. Yeah, I feel 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.519 like if you asked me who was the older band I 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.779 wouldn't have gotten that right Maybe because 00:16:33.779 --> 00:16:36.139 skill it still sounds more youthful than casting. 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.320 I think it might be that it might also might 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.460 just be that like That's kind of crazy to think 00:16:41.460 --> 00:16:45.039 that casting crowns like Release an album and 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.539 then skyrocketed. Yeah, like usually, you know, 00:16:48.539 --> 00:16:51.820 it makes more sense with skillet where I was 00:16:51.820 --> 00:16:53.919 like, oh, that's weird to think that they were 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.279 around for, you know, they had a following, but 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:58.620 I feel like comatose was when it really took 00:16:58.620 --> 00:17:01.220 off. Cause that was the winter jams and all that 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:06.720 stuff. All right. Next up is MXPX or jars of 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:16.819 clay. This one's probably close. Definitely closer 00:17:16.819 --> 00:17:19.720 than the last one. It's a year difference. Yeah. 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:30.920 I was about to say. So I was probably, man, I 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.720 was probably early high school when I got my 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:42.160 first MXPX record. You want to go MXPX? You're 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.079 right. 1994 versus 1995 with Jarza Kalei. Yeah. 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.690 So. You're doing pretty good so far. All right. 00:17:49.690 --> 00:17:54.170 All right. Uh next up we go mercy me Versus our 00:17:54.170 --> 00:18:01.109 guest this week voda Um Can I ask a clarifying 00:18:01.109 --> 00:18:03.930 question? Yeah, or when we talk about voda are 00:18:03.930 --> 00:18:06.750 we going back to who voda was previously known 00:18:06.750 --> 00:18:10.630 as yes I I counted them as casting pearls since 00:18:10.630 --> 00:18:20.049 it was the same band members. Okay Um, man I'm 00:18:20.049 --> 00:18:23.150 still gonna go mercy me. I think you got it. 00:18:23.210 --> 00:18:27.210 Mercy me 1995 which was another one that that 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:30.569 was kind of crazy that they were Doing this stuff 00:18:30.569 --> 00:18:34.430 and then took off and yeah Voda It was 2000 as 00:18:34.430 --> 00:18:36.349 Casting Pearls when they released their first 00:18:36.349 --> 00:18:42.630 album gotcha Next up is switch foot versus thousand 00:18:42.630 --> 00:18:52.099 foot crutch Switch foot Just a wild, throwing 00:18:52.099 --> 00:18:54.859 it out there. What do you think is the time difference 00:18:54.859 --> 00:19:04.380 between the two albums? I don't know. I don't 00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:07.579 know. So this one was the closest one on here. 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:10.900 Switchfoot released, I think it's like Legend 00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:16.799 of Chin. June 17th, 1997. Thousand Foot Crutch 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:22.119 released their debut album, July 29th 1997 so 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.099 little over a month about a six weeks or so. 00:19:25.099 --> 00:19:28.640 All right I'm still on top of this thing. Yeah 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:38.779 House of Heroes or Hawk Nelson? Oh, man So I 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:41.920 know there's a House of Heroes I think independent 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:50.829 record Mm -hmm And I know Hawk Nelson's First 00:19:50.829 --> 00:19:54.529 record letters to the president. I think was 00:19:54.529 --> 00:19:58.710 their first record I'll give you a hint. Okay, 00:19:58.869 --> 00:20:04.150 Huck Nelson was not created in 1987 I Didn't 00:20:04.150 --> 00:20:09.250 say it was a good hand Thanks for that one wasn't 00:20:09.250 --> 00:20:16.869 imagining that they were Man house of heroes 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:23.349 You are correct as figure is 2003 Hawk Nelson's 00:20:23.349 --> 00:20:31.809 2004. Okay Next up Starfire 59 versus bleach 00:20:31.809 --> 00:20:49.490 Starfire you're right again 1994 and 1996. Okay. 00:20:49.829 --> 00:20:55.150 Yeah, you got this. No pressure. How many do 00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:57.190 we have left? Two more. I don't want to blow 00:20:57.190 --> 00:21:02.630 it. Need to breathe versus building 429. Oh my 00:21:02.630 --> 00:21:05.390 goodness. See, this one's gonna kill it for me. 00:21:09.190 --> 00:21:21.789 Good grief. Really have a clue. It's a year difference 00:21:21.789 --> 00:21:29.430 if that helps you at all. I'll say Need to breathe 00:21:29.430 --> 00:21:35.549 ooh building 429 2000 and need to breathe 2001 00:21:35.549 --> 00:21:38.890 Which honestly I feel like it's impressive you 00:21:38.890 --> 00:21:41.410 made it this far because I the first one got 00:21:41.410 --> 00:21:44.450 me went like skillet I was like man, I would 00:21:44.450 --> 00:21:48.089 have guessed 2002 or something Well, I remember 00:21:48.089 --> 00:21:51.710 when it came out. So our final one, two of the 00:21:51.710 --> 00:21:54.990 younger people that are taking over radio and 00:21:54.990 --> 00:21:59.210 youth groups, Josiah Queen versus Forrest Frank. 00:22:03.089 --> 00:22:05.990 OK, so when we talk about Forrest Frank, do we 00:22:05.990 --> 00:22:09.369 mean Forrest Frank as a solo artist or Forrest 00:22:09.369 --> 00:22:14.109 Frank as in he was in a project with another 00:22:14.109 --> 00:22:17.900 guy and they released some hit songs? Let me 00:22:17.900 --> 00:22:28.400 pull up this one right here It is I'm struggling 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.240 to even remember the name of that right now, 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:39.380 but So this was an independent one It's saying 00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:42.839 with this quick is that what you're thinking 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:49.390 of well he was he was It was a duo. They were 00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:51.650 releasing records together, and I can't remember 00:22:51.650 --> 00:22:55.089 what the artist's name was when they were together. 00:22:55.349 --> 00:22:57.029 I think that might be the one you're talking 00:22:57.029 --> 00:23:00.349 about, so I'll go with that one. I went on Wikipedia, 00:23:00.589 --> 00:23:03.750 and it is under independent albums. So it is 00:23:03.750 --> 00:23:07.670 not his Child of God album that came out in 2024. 00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:13.230 Yeah, yeah. No, I know. For the fun of it, I'll 00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:17.460 just go to Psyqueen. Josiah Queen, his was 2020, 00:23:17.900 --> 00:23:23.799 Forrest Frank was 2018. But I mean, I don't know 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:25.980 if we're going with the other one, the Bisquick 00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:30.420 one, if that's a duo, that's 2018. Effortless 00:23:30.420 --> 00:23:36.420 is 2020, so. Yeah, so Forrest Frank was in a 00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:43.619 band called Surfaces and starting in 2017. Surfaces 00:23:43.619 --> 00:23:48.640 was the one that I was I was thinking about they 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.660 they had Yeah, I don't remember the big song 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:57.299 but But they had a pretty popular song Okay, 00:23:57.339 --> 00:23:59.920 this does say that front Frank launched his solo 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:03.279 career under his name and he released July 1 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.839 of that year So okay, so that would be considered 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:11.960 2018 his like first one Cool Do you also know 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:16.920 how old Forrest Frank is? 30. Yeah, I'm seeing 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:22.839 that right now. I thought he was like 19 That's 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.079 funny I don't I feel like that makes it more 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:30.519 Like more impressive that he's connected with 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.500 the youth that much. I mean 30 is young I mean, 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.029 yeah, it's young but I just I feel like I'm 33 00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:40.349 and I feel like if I walked into our youth group 00:24:40.349 --> 00:24:42.750 at our church People wouldn't just turn around 00:24:42.750 --> 00:24:46.710 and go. Hey Brandon's here Like i'm not the font 00:24:46.710 --> 00:24:50.809 walking in Maybe you are brandon. Maybe you like 00:24:50.809 --> 00:24:53.210 Maybe that's cool. I'll show up tonight and i'll 00:24:53.210 --> 00:24:55.470 ask everyone. I'll just stand at the door. Do 00:24:55.470 --> 00:25:00.950 you think i'm cool? You think that? That's funny, 00:25:01.210 --> 00:25:04.980 that's funny All right. Well, thanks for walking 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:06.559 us through that. I feel like I did pretty good. 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:08.539 Yeah, I think that was really impressive. I'm 00:25:08.539 --> 00:25:11.200 slightly proud of myself. So let's transition 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.740 and get into what we're talking about today. 00:25:20.529 --> 00:25:23.329 Well today is an exciting one for us because 00:25:23.329 --> 00:25:26.849 we have a special guest with us today You may 00:25:26.849 --> 00:25:29.410 know him as the lead singer of the band Voda 00:25:29.410 --> 00:25:34.890 or his stint on the voice Join us today in welcoming 00:25:34.890 --> 00:25:38.990 Brian Olson Brian we're pumped to have you on 00:25:38.990 --> 00:25:42.049 man So great to be here fellas. Thanks for having 00:25:42.049 --> 00:25:44.450 me. Yeah, this is this really exciting for us 00:25:44.450 --> 00:25:47.599 anytime that we're able to have a creator on 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.319 with us just to be able to talk through the history 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.380 and the process. And so I'm excited to kind of 00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:57.819 dig into where you're at and all those kinds 00:25:57.819 --> 00:25:59.960 of things. So let's jump into it. Yeah, let's 00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.369 do it. It's definitely cool to have this. Before 00:26:02.369 --> 00:26:04.750 we started recording, we were talking about bands 00:26:04.750 --> 00:26:06.769 that meant a lot to y 'all when you were growing 00:26:06.769 --> 00:26:09.609 up, and Voda was one of those. I don't say that 00:26:09.609 --> 00:26:14.650 to make Brian feel old or whatever, but... Oh, 00:26:14.650 --> 00:26:18.269 boy. Do you remember what we used to be called 00:26:18.269 --> 00:26:22.549 before Voda? Casting Pearls. Oh, you are a true 00:26:22.549 --> 00:26:25.829 fan. I'm in that... Was it the Facebook you get 00:26:25.829 --> 00:26:29.549 the badge for top fan or whatever? Congratulations. 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.740 Well done. All right. So jumping into it. So 00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:37.279 Brian, how did you first get into music? Like, 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.579 do you remember the first album or song or anything 00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:43.579 that you heard that made you want to pick up 00:26:43.579 --> 00:26:47.400 a guitar or stand behind a microphone? Oh, yeah. 00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:51.980 Well, my mom had an insane album collection and. 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.759 just even as a kid when I was playing with toys 00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.359 like matchbox cars and stuff I would like drive 00:26:57.359 --> 00:26:59.259 them to the record player like I was going to 00:26:59.259 --> 00:27:01.480 a concert and then I would just sift through 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.140 these albums and I I can still remember the album 00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:06.460 covers are amazing and somehow I stumbled upon 00:27:06.460 --> 00:27:10.480 a Queen album that had Bohemian Rhapsody on it 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:13.299 and this was like before like Wayne's World and 00:27:13.299 --> 00:27:16.440 stuff or whoever. I know certain movies made 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.539 those songs even more popular, but I heard it 00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:22.680 for the first time off this album, and I just 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.559 remember just being in awe of what I was hearing. 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:33.039 So that definitely did something in me, and I 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.359 remember going to a junior high variety show. 00:27:36.509 --> 00:27:39.109 where this guy gets up there with electric guitar 00:27:39.109 --> 00:27:40.990 and someone else is on the drums and they start 00:27:40.990 --> 00:27:43.390 playing into a Van Halen song. There's no singer. 00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:47.289 It's just full on rock and roll. And like grandparents 00:27:47.289 --> 00:27:49.529 are getting up and walking out holding their 00:27:49.529 --> 00:27:52.210 ears because the thing is so loud. And I'm like, 00:27:52.250 --> 00:27:55.009 I am going to play guitar. It's decided. And 00:27:55.009 --> 00:27:58.490 that did something in me that like I had to have 00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:01.630 one. And sure enough, I got one for like my 14th 00:28:01.630 --> 00:28:04.700 birthday was my first guitar. and I was off and 00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:06.720 off and running. I loved Eddie Van Halen. I have 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.339 a really good ear for music, but his playing 00:28:09.339 --> 00:28:13.319 was so incredible that because I couldn't copy 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.380 it perfectly, I just started, you know, wandering 00:28:16.380 --> 00:28:18.740 and writing my own stuff, even at that at that 00:28:18.740 --> 00:28:21.319 age. So the fact that I couldn't play guitar 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.460 as well as Eddie turned me into more of a songwriter. 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.990 That's cool. So how do you get from there? Um, 00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:32.309 from being at the point where you're into music, 00:28:32.329 --> 00:28:34.329 you start trying to figure out how to do it to 00:28:34.329 --> 00:28:38.250 actually like, I'm putting a band together and 00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:40.809 trying to like make this thing successful. Like, 00:28:40.890 --> 00:28:44.289 what was that bridge like? Oh, well, let me tell 00:28:44.289 --> 00:28:46.309 you the bridge I had to cross before that. So 00:28:46.309 --> 00:28:49.769 I'm from Connecticut originally, Northeast, and 00:28:49.769 --> 00:28:53.130 I did not grow up in a Christian home. I started, 00:28:53.150 --> 00:28:56.549 I got invited to youth group, um, as a teenager. 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.359 and this small Baptist church basically rock 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.519 and roll was sin. So I turned in all my tapes 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:10.700 and CDs at the time and figured that that's what 00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:13.140 God wanted only like classical music and nothing 00:29:13.140 --> 00:29:15.500 with a drum beat. So there was this period of 00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:17.640 time I went to Bible college in the middle of 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.819 nowhere in Wisconsin where you had to turn in 00:29:19.819 --> 00:29:21.859 your music there too like they had a committee 00:29:21.859 --> 00:29:24.259 that that would either hold your music if it 00:29:24.259 --> 00:29:27.339 didn't get approved or they would uh you know 00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:29.900 they would give you back what did approve and 00:29:29.900 --> 00:29:33.079 and back then even groups like acapella they 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.359 would would not get approved because they considered 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:40.019 the voices too self -glorifying so um so it was 00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:42.880 a really weird time as a young person just going 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.599 through like what is what do i feel god really 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.500 feels about this with music like it was always 00:29:47.500 --> 00:29:50.000 in me i would have my electric guitar with me 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.170 at at Bible College, but I had headphones on, 00:29:53.210 --> 00:29:55.029 so no one could hear the distortion and stuff, 00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:58.910 my buddy and I, as we were writing songs. So 00:29:58.910 --> 00:30:02.049 that turned into moving to Nebraska, because 00:30:02.049 --> 00:30:05.309 he worked out here in Lincoln, and he invited 00:30:05.309 --> 00:30:07.309 me for a summer, and I came out just to kind 00:30:07.309 --> 00:30:10.809 of work on music with him. And we never played 00:30:10.809 --> 00:30:13.130 live, we just worked on stuff forever, but my 00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:17.140 first ever live band experience was this. Other 00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:19.759 band was called helpless speech was the name 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:22.640 of the band and they actually all lived in Scotts 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.440 Bluff Nebraska Which is like light years away 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:28.359 from Lincoln. I mean, it's seriously like a seven 00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.500 hour drive and I joined this band and I I drove 00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:35.920 out seven hours to Scotts Bluff to be like to 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.259 practice and be a part of our first gig and that's 00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:39.740 kind of where things started and I started to 00:30:39.740 --> 00:30:42.970 sing and song right then the lead singer at the 00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:44.930 time got a real job and everybody was mad at 00:30:44.930 --> 00:30:48.230 him for getting a real job and so helpless speech 00:30:48.230 --> 00:30:50.410 turned into casting pearls at that point I started 00:30:50.410 --> 00:30:53.349 writing more music and all those guys moved to 00:30:53.349 --> 00:30:55.950 Lincoln Nebraska and we just did stuff on the 00:30:55.950 --> 00:30:59.750 weekends just really tried to you know make it 00:30:59.750 --> 00:31:02.910 happen as much as we can and I think for me my 00:31:02.910 --> 00:31:08.509 first big break I guess was I remember the first 00:31:08.509 --> 00:31:10.970 time like someone from forefront Records heard 00:31:10.970 --> 00:31:13.349 our demo and he called and left a voicemail and 00:31:13.349 --> 00:31:15.930 I kept that voicemail for like a year just to 00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:18.650 yeah Just just to give me inspiration and stuff, 00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:21.230 you know And then newsboys at the time owned 00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:23.289 a record label and they were interested in us 00:31:23.289 --> 00:31:25.690 And so I started talking actually with Peter 00:31:25.690 --> 00:31:28.349 furler the lead singer at the time which turned 00:31:28.349 --> 00:31:31.130 into me getting an offer to actually play guitar 00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:34.490 for Newsboys, which was insane. That was like 00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:37.569 the first stamp of like, okay, maybe it was worth 00:31:37.569 --> 00:31:39.970 it investing so much time and energy into music. 00:31:41.089 --> 00:31:44.329 Some things were starting to pay off. Did that 00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:46.329 answer your question? I know I kind of had a 00:31:46.329 --> 00:31:49.390 few bunny trails there. I had to throw the Christian 00:31:49.390 --> 00:31:52.049 part in where rock music was a sin. I don't know 00:31:52.049 --> 00:31:54.569 how many times I threw away my Van Halen CD. 00:31:55.990 --> 00:31:58.150 Rebought it and then felt guilty and threw it 00:31:58.150 --> 00:32:01.809 away and then bought it again It's ice at Bible 00:32:01.809 --> 00:32:05.609 College. I snuck out to go to a Petra show and 00:32:05.609 --> 00:32:10.069 I Snuck out to go to see Petra and PFR was the 00:32:10.069 --> 00:32:12.289 opener and I fell in love with that band pray 00:32:12.289 --> 00:32:14.970 for rain So that was my first time where I heard 00:32:14.970 --> 00:32:17.529 Christian music where I was like, oh this this 00:32:17.529 --> 00:32:20.390 is really really great Like I and I dove in, 00:32:20.589 --> 00:32:23.170 you know Secretly sinning and listening to rock 00:32:23.170 --> 00:32:25.980 and roll on my headphones Listening to PFR. Yeah, 00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:28.819 it's it's so funny. You mentioned that because 00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:31.220 I feel like there's a whole conversation about 00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:35.079 Baptist Church and secular music. I remember 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:39.220 as a teenager, my student ministry doing a night 00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:42.220 where we all brought our secular CDs and the 00:32:42.220 --> 00:32:44.180 whole night was just how do we destroy them in 00:32:44.180 --> 00:32:47.779 the most fun way? So we were like burning them 00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:49.960 and breaking them with baseball bats and golf 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.220 clubs. But I just remember seeing my Jen Blossom 00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:59.859 CD get destroyed and then having heartbreak and 00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:02.480 then even feeling way worse next week when I 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.420 went and bought it again. Dude, I thought I was 00:33:07.420 --> 00:33:12.660 the only one. You're not the only one. We made 00:33:12.660 --> 00:33:18.210 those artists rich. I had a conversation with 00:33:18.210 --> 00:33:20.730 the guy that was my student pastor back then 00:33:20.730 --> 00:33:22.730 the other day and he's like, why did we do that? 00:33:22.789 --> 00:33:26.829 And I'm like, you were in charge, bro. I don't 00:33:26.829 --> 00:33:31.430 know. Hopefully, you know, maybe every several 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:33.630 years, every five years, we look back at who 00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:36.029 we were five years ago and hopefully we see growth. 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:38.789 You know, we see like, why was I doing things 00:33:38.789 --> 00:33:40.710 that way? Why did I believe, you know, I don't 00:33:40.710 --> 00:33:43.789 know. It's and the older I get, it seems like 00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:47.900 the more questions I have, the less I know, the 00:33:47.900 --> 00:33:50.660 less I'm sure of. I think that's a really good 00:33:50.660 --> 00:33:54.400 and valid point too, because I think obviously 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.660 growth is being more introspective and more thoughtful 00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:02.220 about things. And so it really is a cool thing. 00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:05.480 There are a lot of things that I'm probably more 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.900 sure about than ever from when I was younger 00:34:08.900 --> 00:34:13.369 today, but probably more things that that i'm 00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:15.989 like i think there's probably a lot more like 00:34:15.989 --> 00:34:19.389 room for grace um in the midst of all of this 00:34:19.389 --> 00:34:23.250 than i thought there used to be so yeah um so 00:34:23.250 --> 00:34:26.449 yeah so jumping ahead you you get on uh ino records 00:34:26.449 --> 00:34:29.829 release your self -titled album and um and you 00:34:29.829 --> 00:34:32.750 and you create what to this day is one of my 00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:35.590 favorite music videos and it's the video for 00:34:35.590 --> 00:34:38.210 hard to believe um can you tell us a little bit 00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:40.809 about the i guess maybe the creative process 00:34:40.809 --> 00:34:45.090 of like yeah coming up with the idea and like 00:34:45.090 --> 00:34:49.389 creating that video yeah sure um first off i 00:34:49.389 --> 00:34:52.690 want to say the album cover was not photoshopped 00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:54.869 there's a helicopter hovering above the three 00:34:54.869 --> 00:34:58.469 of us and the the blade of the helicopter is 00:34:58.469 --> 00:35:01.349 like captured perfectly in parallel to the building 00:35:01.349 --> 00:35:03.769 and i remember the label at the time because 00:35:03.769 --> 00:35:05.929 they didn't have you know a lot of money for 00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:08.369 marketing and i had this idea for a helicopter 00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:10.050 to come in they're like you know what maybe after 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:12.340 Maybe your next album, when you sell a few records, 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.760 we could do that. And I just was like, no, I'm 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.280 going to check it out. And I called this guy. 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.360 He goes, yeah, I can just come there and hover 00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.980 for 20 minutes and, you know, give me 400 bucks 00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:23.780 and we'll call it good. So so he literally did 00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:25.860 that. The photographer grabbed a whole bunch 00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.500 of shots and that ended up being the album cover, 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.539 which is was pretty awesome. And that was Jeremy 00:35:31.539 --> 00:35:35.199 Cowart, who was like. since became, and he's 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.679 an incredible photographer. But that music video, 00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:40.780 oh gosh, the guy's name is escaping me at the 00:35:40.780 --> 00:35:42.760 moment, but it was pretty groundbreaking at the 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.440 time. It was kind of like that Apple sort of 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.940 feel where, you know, you had this element moving 00:35:47.940 --> 00:35:50.739 through. Each one of us filmed in front of like 00:35:50.739 --> 00:35:54.440 a green screen that we put together and we filmed 00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:56.880 it in Franklin, Tennessee and it was a lot of 00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.559 fun. I mean, just as a band to finally get to 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.309 work on. I think that was our first music video 00:36:02.309 --> 00:36:05.130 at all, so that was pretty fun. That's all I 00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:08.309 can tell you about that. I remember, I think 00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:11.289 we were mentioning this a few weeks ago, that 00:36:11.289 --> 00:36:14.349 they had this channel, the Gospel Music Channel, 00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:17.050 and it was just Christian Music 24 -7, and they 00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:19.710 would have the rock block and the hip hop or 00:36:19.710 --> 00:36:23.250 whatever, and I remember seeing it. i don't know 00:36:23.250 --> 00:36:24.989 if it was like one morning before i think it 00:36:24.989 --> 00:36:26.250 might have been before school like i'm waiting 00:36:26.250 --> 00:36:28.469 from like my brother and my mom to to get ready 00:36:28.469 --> 00:36:31.389 to leave and so i turn it on and i see that video 00:36:31.389 --> 00:36:34.010 and i was just like man i'm used to you know 00:36:34.010 --> 00:36:36.610 like people singing in front and maybe there's 00:36:36.610 --> 00:36:39.170 a story with like this you know this guy and 00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:41.230 this girl or whatever but i was just like this 00:36:41.230 --> 00:36:44.449 is so cool and um so that's it's always stuck 00:36:44.449 --> 00:36:46.230 with me i remember when we started our grade 00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:48.750 school ministry here i showed that video to some 00:36:48.750 --> 00:36:51.429 of the kids here and they're like What why this 00:36:51.429 --> 00:36:53.210 laser is like what's the laser doing? What's 00:36:53.210 --> 00:36:54.610 gonna happen? I was like the laser's not gonna 00:36:54.610 --> 00:37:00.190 hurt anyone. That's not the point So so fun about 00:37:00.190 --> 00:37:02.610 music videos is like especially during that time 00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:05.730 the more it didn't make sense the the cooler 00:37:05.730 --> 00:37:08.349 it was it's like, you know rando people in it 00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:11.750 and stuff, but um, I remember we were just like 00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:15.179 putting um, oh gosh Craigslist ads out to try 00:37:15.179 --> 00:37:18.000 to find cheerleaders and dancers that wanted 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.860 to volunteer. So like all those people that came 00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:23.380 in were just like, who knows somebody random 00:37:23.380 --> 00:37:24.679 stuff that we just threw out there and people 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.079 just showed up. So it was definitely a grassroots 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.800 effort. That's cool. Brandon, was that your first 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:34.059 introduction to VOTA? Yeah, that was I. I saw 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:36.880 that video. I mean, back in that day, it's like 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.079 if you don't. I remember like I think I didn't 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.860 catch the. They would sometimes have the name 00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:45.400 and you know song and all at the beginning and 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.559 end but sometimes they wouldn't have in the end 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.780 so sometimes you just have to wait because I 00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:53.139 mean you can't Google like red laser and hard 00:37:53.139 --> 00:37:59.019 -to -believe cheerleaders But I remember like 00:37:59.019 --> 00:38:03.579 discovering them and like next trip we took to 00:38:03.579 --> 00:38:05.320 like Lifeway or Family Christian or whatever 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.380 I went and I was like oh I've got to pick up 00:38:07.380 --> 00:38:10.340 this album and um so I picked it up and I was 00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:14.599 like man this is this is really cool um and I 00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.420 just I feel like I connected pretty quickly with 00:38:16.420 --> 00:38:19.070 the band that's really awesome That's awesome. 00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:20.630 It would have been better if you were part of 00:38:20.630 --> 00:38:22.269 a baptist church and you threw it away and you 00:38:22.269 --> 00:38:25.730 bought it again I wish I had that story of oh, 00:38:25.789 --> 00:38:28.170 yeah, they had to throw with the bota thankfully 00:38:28.170 --> 00:38:31.389 We would have made tens of more dollars because 00:38:31.389 --> 00:38:34.210 of just your sacrifice. I think my school they 00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:37.349 only knew the like top artist And so I remember 00:38:37.349 --> 00:38:38.969 one day someone being like you shouldn't listen 00:38:38.969 --> 00:38:42.389 to tommy mac. That's like satanic And I remember 00:38:42.389 --> 00:38:44.530 telling my friend, I was like, Oh, no, you must 00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:47.269 have misheard me. His name's Toby Mac. You must 00:38:47.269 --> 00:38:51.510 be thinking of someone else. That's so funny. 00:38:51.650 --> 00:38:54.250 I mean, granted, in my student ministry, it was 00:38:54.250 --> 00:38:56.530 we got to keep our Christian rock CDs. It was 00:38:56.530 --> 00:39:01.550 just the secular stuff that we destroyed. That's 00:39:01.550 --> 00:39:04.130 funny. Brian, tell us a little bit. You guys 00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:08.599 have kind of been known over time for just Bringing 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.159 awareness to different causes that are out there 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:15.139 things like Human trafficking like how did you 00:39:15.139 --> 00:39:17.340 guys decide? Hey, we want to use this platform 00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:20.420 that we've been given To kind of invest in some 00:39:20.420 --> 00:39:22.000 of these different areas. What kind of led you 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.639 guys towards that? We've always had this mission 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.579 that To use music to connect people that need 00:39:31.579 --> 00:39:34.639 help with people that can help And we've tried 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.500 various ways to do that and usually link it to 00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:41.179 albums And I don't I think part of that honestly 00:39:41.179 --> 00:39:44.659 happened with me when I joined the newsboys as 00:39:44.659 --> 00:39:47.920 their guitarist They they did a missions trip 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.440 like in Mexico and that was the first time I 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.119 really saw Extreme poverty and I was blown away. 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.539 I was like, oh my goodness. I mean we were in 00:39:56.539 --> 00:40:01.559 a trash dump and people were making You know 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.599 makeshift housing out of the scraps there and 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.960 I I was just I Couldn't believe what I was seeing 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.400 was unlike anything I've seen before but but 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.480 also I was looking at like, you know What this 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:16.019 band is making a difference just by doing a couple 00:40:16.019 --> 00:40:18.559 concerts here whatever it's raising awareness 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:22.619 and and that awareness and and eventually the 00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:26.800 giving went a long way and I just I kind of fell 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:31.800 in love with that and adapted that and I love 00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.420 creative marketing ideas and stuff too. And so 00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:37.280 a big part of it for me was to try to come up 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.199 with unique, interesting campaigns that would 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.219 engage our fans. And the one we did with Love 00:40:43.219 --> 00:40:45.599 Justice, they fight human trafficking globally. 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.760 At the time, I went on a trip to Nepal and there's 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.159 like 14 border points between Nepal and India. 00:40:54.219 --> 00:40:57.699 And what was happening is traffickers were coming 00:40:57.699 --> 00:41:00.960 into the... into Nepal posing as like employment 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.300 agents to give jobs for their kids and stuff 00:41:03.300 --> 00:41:05.000 like that and then what would happen is these 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.579 kids would get sold to brothels and never seen 00:41:07.579 --> 00:41:11.760 again and and our our Mission was to like at 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.559 the time when people were still buying albums. 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:20.500 We recorded two albums and we said hey For let's 00:41:20.500 --> 00:41:23.230 see, what did I say? Oh the album's free but 00:41:23.230 --> 00:41:25.230 before you get it you have to watch this video 00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:27.489 from this girl named Nina who escaped one of 00:41:27.489 --> 00:41:30.070 these brothels she told her story and it's just 00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:33.150 it's heart -wrenching and it's so inspiring and 00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:35.349 we said you know for a gift of any amount we 00:41:35.349 --> 00:41:37.530 have another secret album that recorded that's 00:41:37.530 --> 00:41:40.090 only gonna go to the givers on whatever they 00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:42.690 choose to give and we at the time we've never 00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:44.789 been a massive band you know we've never been 00:41:44.789 --> 00:41:47.110 Casting Crowns or Mercy Me or whatever Toby Mac 00:41:47.110 --> 00:41:50.929 and and I was working at a church doing worship 00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:53.869 full -time and so we weren't touring a ton but 00:41:53.869 --> 00:41:57.090 through that campaign alone our goal was to raise 00:41:57.090 --> 00:41:59.230 a hundred and fifty thousand dollars to support 00:41:59.230 --> 00:42:01.570 and staff five border stations for five years 00:42:01.570 --> 00:42:04.110 and we ended up raising like close to a hundred 00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:06.469 and eighty thousand it was amazing to see what 00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:09.110 what God did through that and then we got reports 00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:11.730 over the years like I think it's been close to 00:42:11.730 --> 00:42:15.739 seven or eight hundred girls have been intercepted 00:42:15.739 --> 00:42:17.699 just through the border stations that we helped 00:42:17.699 --> 00:42:20.079 put together. So sometimes it's just hard to 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.940 even fathom what that means, but the fact that 00:42:22.940 --> 00:42:25.679 we got to be a part of something that spared 00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:31.840 hundreds of young children from a life of just 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.219 utter destruction, like, you know, it's good 00:42:35.219 --> 00:42:36.619 for you to remind me of that. It's like, yeah, 00:42:36.619 --> 00:42:38.980 we got to be a part of that. And so when you 00:42:38.980 --> 00:42:41.110 get to do that once, We've done it again. We 00:42:41.110 --> 00:42:42.730 partnered with another organization. We took 00:42:42.730 --> 00:42:46.289 on an entire community in Nicaragua It had 300 00:42:46.289 --> 00:42:48.710 some kids sponsored in this community and it 00:42:48.710 --> 00:42:51.530 just was so cool We from start to finish we just 00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:54.329 saw The hardest thing sometimes to do is to is 00:42:54.329 --> 00:42:56.750 to break the poverty mindset in these communities 00:42:56.750 --> 00:43:00.309 and to see that happen in real time Was just 00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:03.170 it's just so wonderful. So um, yeah, we've we've 00:43:03.170 --> 00:43:05.610 always um, we know that we can have a voice even 00:43:05.610 --> 00:43:07.730 if it's a smaller one compared to a lot of bands, 00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:11.239 but um love trying to make a difference with 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.079 some of that. So that Love Found Me album that 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.619 someone mentioned was an album that we did for 00:43:18.619 --> 00:43:21.280 Love Justice. But they also helped us too. So 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.440 we were able to own our copyrights, like record 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.880 the album ourselves. So it's almost like we use 00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.199 some of these organizations as a label to help 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.139 us, but then we were so free from the publishing 00:43:32.139 --> 00:43:34.199 and restrictions that we could do these creative 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.219 things to help them. So it was a very win -win. 00:43:36.780 --> 00:43:39.699 that's so fun and probably like a little bit 00:43:39.699 --> 00:43:42.760 ahead of its time i mean obviously the music 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.559 industry is a very different animal today than 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.699 it was 15 years ago but i would imagine that 00:43:49.699 --> 00:43:53.360 um some of what you guys were doing then like 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.659 we're gonna do this thing kind of on our own 00:43:55.659 --> 00:43:59.150 not on this label but You know, um doing it to 00:43:59.150 --> 00:44:01.150 support this cause that we really believe in 00:44:01.150 --> 00:44:03.449 probably like mirrors a lot of what's happening 00:44:03.449 --> 00:44:05.530 in music today And I feel like you guys are probably 00:44:05.530 --> 00:44:07.389 on the front edge of a lot of that, which is 00:44:07.389 --> 00:44:13.110 cool I'll take that sure We were just trying 00:44:13.110 --> 00:44:15.289 to survive, you know, we're also trying to survive 00:44:15.289 --> 00:44:18.369 and do what we do full -time we we are our strategy 00:44:18.369 --> 00:44:21.289 is We ended up owning a tour bus and sound and 00:44:21.289 --> 00:44:23.650 lighting and we would hire ourselves out to bigger 00:44:23.650 --> 00:44:25.949 bands and run their tours So we worked really 00:44:25.949 --> 00:44:28.510 really hard to do and we would open for their 00:44:28.510 --> 00:44:30.369 audience, you know, so we would do like a 20 00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:32.929 minute set, but we would be the the crew loading 00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:35.829 all the gear in tearing it down, driving the 00:44:35.829 --> 00:44:40.130 bus. And it was it was pretty insane. Yeah. What 00:44:40.130 --> 00:44:42.610 were some of your this is an off topic question, 00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:44.590 but going along with that, what were some of 00:44:44.590 --> 00:44:48.730 your favorite like some of your favorite tours 00:44:48.730 --> 00:44:50.289 or artists that you were able to hang out with 00:44:50.289 --> 00:44:52.789 on the road that like just kind of impacted you? 00:44:55.289 --> 00:44:58.730 Well. Alright, I'm gonna answer this in a few 00:44:58.730 --> 00:45:02.449 different parts. One of my favorite tours was 00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:06.630 My entrance into the newsboys was pretty crazy. 00:45:06.730 --> 00:45:09.449 So I had been talking with Peter furler for some 00:45:09.449 --> 00:45:12.369 time Because he was the head of the record label 00:45:12.369 --> 00:45:14.789 that was looking to sign us Yeah, and so, you 00:45:14.789 --> 00:45:17.230 know, we call it the label dating game like you 00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.690 want things to move fast and they never do they 00:45:19.690 --> 00:45:22.949 take like Months to a year and you're let's hear 00:45:22.949 --> 00:45:24.630 more songs. This is great. What else you got 00:45:24.630 --> 00:45:27.969 and like And one day I get this call from Peter, 00:45:28.170 --> 00:45:30.889 and he's like, pretty much he said something 00:45:30.889 --> 00:45:33.329 like, I was a worship pastor at the time, and 00:45:33.329 --> 00:45:35.909 he's like, he calls me on a Thursday. He goes, 00:45:36.590 --> 00:45:38.909 there's about 100 people I could call here in 00:45:38.909 --> 00:45:41.570 Nashville, but I'm wondering if you're interested 00:45:41.570 --> 00:45:45.329 in playing guitar for the Newsboys. And I remember 00:45:45.329 --> 00:45:48.469 taking the phone and just like. Kind of doing 00:45:48.469 --> 00:45:52.610 a silent scream because I'm like The answer was 00:45:52.610 --> 00:45:54.650 already yes, but I was freaking out that the 00:45:54.650 --> 00:45:57.269 offer was there Yeah, and and he's like, can 00:45:57.269 --> 00:45:59.929 you fly out tomorrow to see at the time? Jody 00:45:59.929 --> 00:46:03.489 needed to step down for his daughter just needed 00:46:03.489 --> 00:46:05.670 like 24 -hour care and he just couldn't tour 00:46:05.670 --> 00:46:08.090 so there was no guarantee for me like how long 00:46:08.090 --> 00:46:11.610 this would be and He's like, can you fly out 00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:13.429 tomorrow? And I'm like, I've got a show tomorrow 00:46:13.429 --> 00:46:16.369 with casting Casting Pearls at the time. And 00:46:16.369 --> 00:46:18.449 then I had the lead church on Sunday. He goes, 00:46:18.630 --> 00:46:21.789 well, the tour starts next Friday. So I'm like, 00:46:21.869 --> 00:46:25.750 bro, I've got a week. I've got a week here to 00:46:25.750 --> 00:46:29.469 make all this decision. And of course I did. 00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:32.289 And my very first show with the newsboys in this 00:46:32.289 --> 00:46:34.730 tour bus in front of, you know, five, six thousand 00:46:34.730 --> 00:46:37.639 people. by the next Friday. I mean, I had to 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.599 buy some CDs once I got the set list to like 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.019 work out my singing parts and what I was doing. 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.820 So that was pretty insane because I went from 00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:52.360 slugging it out in a van to getting thrust right 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:56.260 into a major band that at the time was chartering 00:46:56.260 --> 00:46:59.699 private jets and tour buses and massive shows. 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.639 And it was like the best experience ever and 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:06.880 also like a way to, let's see how a big band 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:08.960 does it, you know, to kind of see the behind 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:14.840 the scenes. So I guess that's probably one of, 00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:19.739 for my own band, we started this thing called 00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:22.719 the 180 Tour. And what it did is we went into 00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.300 public high schools and we did like character 00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:28.260 based assemblies. So. One of our main speakers 00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:30.719 was this girl named Crystal Miller and she was 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.699 a survivor of Columbine. She was actually in 00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:36.039 the library where most of the violence took place 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:37.780 where most people were killed and injured. She 00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:40.900 was hiding under the only table where someone 00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:43.239 wasn't killed or injured because they were right 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.860 above her loading their guns. So it's an amazing 00:47:46.860 --> 00:47:49.219 story. And we would go into these high schools 00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:56.510 and just do a character related type presentation 00:47:56.510 --> 00:47:58.789 the band would play we'd do like a dance competition 00:47:58.789 --> 00:48:01.230 with a student and a couple students and a teacher 00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:03.110 just connect with the kids and then we invite 00:48:03.110 --> 00:48:05.329 them out that night for an evening concert where 00:48:05.329 --> 00:48:07.250 we could be more free and share the gospel with 00:48:07.250 --> 00:48:10.449 them and we did like over 400 of these all across 00:48:10.449 --> 00:48:12.929 the US and I'm pretty proud of that because it 00:48:12.929 --> 00:48:15.510 was a lot of work sometimes we were doing two 00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:17.510 assemblies a day so two different setups and 00:48:17.510 --> 00:48:19.090 two different schools and then setting up for 00:48:19.090 --> 00:48:20.610 an evening show we're doing like three concerts 00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:24.179 a day and God really opened up a lot of doors. 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.260 It was pretty exciting sometimes to come into 00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:29.059 a room with like 800 kids in there, and they 00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:31.980 were just from the high school that day. So to 00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:35.059 introduce God in that setting was exhilarating 00:48:35.059 --> 00:48:37.519 for me, because like, oh, we aren't playing to 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.320 the church choir here. This is really cool. That's 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:45.619 awesome. I love that. Sorry if I'm giving you 00:48:45.619 --> 00:48:47.619 too long of answers for your questions. Just 00:48:47.619 --> 00:48:49.099 shut me down. Oh no, that's perfect. That's so 00:48:49.099 --> 00:48:53.510 good, man. It's great stuff. So I know we mentioned 00:48:53.510 --> 00:48:58.670 at the top that a lot of people maybe have come 00:48:58.670 --> 00:49:02.170 across your music because of your time on The 00:49:02.170 --> 00:49:05.349 Voice. What led to that? How did all that come 00:49:05.349 --> 00:49:11.190 to be? Oh, bro. Okay. First off, I went through 00:49:11.190 --> 00:49:13.949 the hardest season in my life when my marriage 00:49:13.949 --> 00:49:19.250 ended. And it was just really devastating and 00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:21.570 difficult for me. And I don't know what sparked 00:49:22.150 --> 00:49:24.389 As I was coming out of that, my drummer sent 00:49:24.389 --> 00:49:27.329 me this audition thing for the voice one day. 00:49:28.269 --> 00:49:31.889 And I remember telling him, I'm like, dude, I'm 00:49:31.889 --> 00:49:35.150 not going to some arena to sit outside in line 00:49:35.150 --> 00:49:37.809 with a bunch of teenage girls for 14 hours waiting 00:49:37.809 --> 00:49:42.989 for a chance to audition on a singing show. It 00:49:42.989 --> 00:49:47.630 just wasn't on my radar. One, I wasn't just starting 00:49:47.630 --> 00:49:51.400 out. I've been doing this a long time. He said 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.480 no, you don't have to do that. You can you can 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.940 schedule like a zoom call with them And so without 00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:59.880 telling him I scheduled this zoom thing for like 00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.880 a Thursday at 1 p .m And their instructions were 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:06.360 you need to have 90 seconds of a song that you're 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.820 gonna sing and that's it I got to cut you off 00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:11.219 at 90 seconds. You don't see them I almost couldn't 00:50:11.219 --> 00:50:13.420 get the laptop to work almost like what am I 00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:16.380 doing? I almost just didn't do it And I sent 00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:18.920 the song, I was in my bathroom playing guitar, 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.139 where it was nice and echoey, sang the song, 00:50:21.300 --> 00:50:23.260 and like two hours later I got a response back, 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.420 this is great, now we want you to send us three 00:50:25.420 --> 00:50:27.739 more songs this way, and then they wanted to 00:50:27.739 --> 00:50:31.659 do an hour -long interview and a psych exam and 00:50:31.659 --> 00:50:35.280 all this. It kept escalating to the point where 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.780 like, oh, they... they're sending me out to LA. 00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:41.460 Here we go. And so it wasn't something I was 00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:44.599 looking for at all, but it turned out to be one 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.059 of the most amazing experiences of my life. It 00:50:47.059 --> 00:50:50.300 was incredible. That's really cool. And what 00:50:50.300 --> 00:50:53.139 was the song that you used for that first audition? 00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:57.679 So they give you a list of approved songs. Like 00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.139 I can't remember, it might have been a thousand 00:50:59.139 --> 00:51:01.059 or two thousand songs. And you're supposed to 00:51:01.059 --> 00:51:03.980 pick I think 15 of them and put them in order 00:51:03.980 --> 00:51:07.599 of preference. And so they chose one of the songs 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.719 I had on my list was One Republic's Love Runs 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.780 Out. And so they choose it and they give you 00:51:14.780 --> 00:51:18.099 a 90 second clip of how they kind of think you 00:51:18.099 --> 00:51:21.980 should do it. and I had a different idea for 00:51:21.980 --> 00:51:24.219 that and I went into the studio and kind of recorded 00:51:24.219 --> 00:51:26.079 what I wanted to do is that I really I think 00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:28.019 it would be cool if we start this off a cappella 00:51:28.019 --> 00:51:30.179 and then the band comes in and once they heard 00:51:30.179 --> 00:51:32.940 the recording they were like okay we'll let you 00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:37.059 do that and um and uh so it that worked out really 00:51:37.059 --> 00:51:40.300 well for me but um that's how that worked that's 00:51:40.300 --> 00:51:43.019 awesome and then beyond that the way the show 00:51:43.019 --> 00:51:45.480 goes you don't really I had to sing a lot of 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:48.800 songs I'd never Song before never would have 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.159 sung even in karaoke like I I wish I could have 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.539 picked all the songs that I Really wanted to 00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:57.320 do ones that I knew well, but it gets pretty 00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.679 intense There's a lot of decision -making and 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.000 how they pick songs and what gets approved and 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.960 stuff like that So but it was a just a super 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.079 fun wild ride And then my daughter gets on the 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.860 show. I don't know if you guys know that So that 00:52:10.860 --> 00:52:12.980 was like that's never even happened in the history 00:52:12.980 --> 00:52:15.760 of the show to have like a a parent -child, you 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.070 know where they're both contestants and both 00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:22.409 become finalists. It was, I was like, God surprised 00:52:22.409 --> 00:52:25.730 me in ways that I just never saw coming. It was 00:52:25.730 --> 00:52:28.530 really, really special time for me and affirming 00:52:28.530 --> 00:52:31.090 to me too in a time that I needed it, that spending 00:52:31.090 --> 00:52:34.289 my life pursuing music was kind of the right 00:52:34.289 --> 00:52:37.050 choice. And I need to continue to do that until 00:52:37.050 --> 00:52:40.409 I no longer can. It's kind of what I felt during 00:52:40.409 --> 00:52:42.960 that whole season. Is it more nerve wracking 00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.500 when you are on stage or when you are off stage 00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:49.039 watching like your daughter perform? Oh, they're 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.480 both incredibly nerve wracking. And obviously 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.139 there's hidden cameras catching my responses 00:52:54.139 --> 00:52:57.699 all the time. But which I'm sure my daughters 00:52:57.699 --> 00:52:59.860 kept rolling her eyes like, oh, there's dad crying 00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:05.139 again. But I have to tell you, like, my daughter 00:53:05.139 --> 00:53:09.480 really didn't believe she had a gift her. She 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.480 sings in an 80s cover band. And she told me it's 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.400 like, you know, I just couldn't find a singer 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.340 that was like me. So I didn't know if I was really 00:53:18.340 --> 00:53:20.360 good is kind of what she said. So to see her 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.760 kind of blossom during that show, I mean, I was 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.139 just and come out of her shell and just I was 00:53:27.139 --> 00:53:30.519 just overjoyed. I was so cool. It was so awesome 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.639 that I got to be at every one of her performances. 00:53:33.820 --> 00:53:36.860 And so that's a memory, you know, that I'll cherish 00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:41.460 forever. So recently, y 'all released a new album, 00:53:41.539 --> 00:53:44.579 Back to the Start. What can listeners expect 00:53:44.579 --> 00:53:50.280 from that? Well, I'll set it up as to why it's 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.320 called Back to the Start. There's a lot of things. 00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:57.860 One, my kids would say, Dad, we really love your 00:53:57.860 --> 00:54:01.119 very first album, the one with the car on it, 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.059 the white one that was casting pearls and named 00:54:03.059 --> 00:54:07.969 Boda. And they're like, more music like that 00:54:07.969 --> 00:54:10.789 would be great. And as I pondered why I think 00:54:10.789 --> 00:54:14.630 that album resonated with them, is it was done 00:54:14.630 --> 00:54:18.329 before record labels and radio and trying to 00:54:18.329 --> 00:54:21.670 do it for a living. It was like, just make the 00:54:21.670 --> 00:54:23.590 music that you really want to make. And not like 00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:27.329 we didn't do that after that, but this album 00:54:27.329 --> 00:54:31.630 was really just my bandmate and I were like, 00:54:31.630 --> 00:54:33.110 you know what, let's make something we're proud 00:54:33.110 --> 00:54:36.469 of. If anybody else comes along for the ride, 00:54:36.510 --> 00:54:39.130 great, but we just have to, we have to go back 00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:42.309 to the start and do it for that reason, not thinking 00:54:42.309 --> 00:54:46.690 about as a radio station or whoever gonna care 00:54:46.690 --> 00:54:50.090 or pick this song up. And so, and I think that's 00:54:50.090 --> 00:54:52.409 how we should always approach art, you know? 00:54:52.449 --> 00:54:55.130 And maybe I lost my way a little bit, but I also 00:54:55.130 --> 00:54:58.690 felt like I also worked for certain entities 00:54:58.690 --> 00:55:01.809 that I had to be careful. I didn't realize it, 00:55:01.809 --> 00:55:03.789 but you know, you work at a church and you're 00:55:03.789 --> 00:55:06.510 a worship pastor, I have to, if this song is 00:55:06.510 --> 00:55:09.829 gonna go out, can I have a line in the song that 00:55:09.829 --> 00:55:13.170 says, where I'm talking to God and I feel like 00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:15.409 your silence is violent, can I say a line like 00:55:15.409 --> 00:55:17.250 that, even though that's what I feel in the moment. 00:55:17.389 --> 00:55:21.190 And so I'm in more of a position now that I want 00:55:21.190 --> 00:55:23.429 to be more authentic, you know, going through, 00:55:23.510 --> 00:55:27.530 especially my divorce, I've really felt my life 00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:29.809 was over and I lost everything that I worked 00:55:29.809 --> 00:55:33.000 toward my entire life that that's the actual 00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.719 just spirit and feeling I felt and and and to 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.780 see I knew but at the same time I knew God was 00:55:40.780 --> 00:55:43.659 real even though I was I was upset at him during 00:55:43.659 --> 00:55:47.199 that season he was patient and walked with me 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:51.900 through it and um so I feel like my faith is 00:55:51.900 --> 00:55:55.559 more real and grounded than ever and I'm also 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.619 trying to figure out who am I really you know 00:55:57.619 --> 00:56:01.320 what um And so all that's coming out in the album. 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.699 There's songs about letting go, trying to move 00:56:04.699 --> 00:56:08.239 on from that relationship. There's love songs 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.039 about finding love again. There's everything 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.440 in between. And so that's why I'm most proud 00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:16.199 of it, is it just feels like we did it the right 00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:18.619 way, meaning make the best thing we can that 00:56:18.619 --> 00:56:24.019 we just love first. I think that's so fun. And 00:56:24.019 --> 00:56:28.579 it is a cool thing. I was... I was in a band 00:56:28.579 --> 00:56:33.119 years ago of little consequence, but it was it. 00:56:33.420 --> 00:56:35.699 It is so cool to think back on like kind of the 00:56:35.699 --> 00:56:39.360 stages that a band or an artist goes through 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:43.659 and how they do kind of like mirror our lives 00:56:43.659 --> 00:56:46.960 in a lot of unique ways, because your art is 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.420 is going to be a picture of of what you're walking 00:56:49.420 --> 00:56:53.139 through at whatever period of time. And so it's 00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:55.559 kind of a it's an it's a cool take to be able 00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.159 to kind of look back and Obviously be stepping 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.219 into a new stage as you are But also find like 00:57:04.219 --> 00:57:07.340 a lot of similarity With things that have kind 00:57:07.340 --> 00:57:09.619 of stuck with you for a long time. So I think 00:57:09.619 --> 00:57:11.639 that's neat I think too that's just you know, 00:57:11.739 --> 00:57:14.559 we we've discussed on here before that I think 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:16.679 for me is my favorite albums are the ones that 00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:18.880 you have to kind of work through like, okay What 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.099 are they saying here or like I'm a big believer 00:57:21.099 --> 00:57:24.000 in like I you know back in the day whenever I'd 00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.480 go buy that physical CD it was I want the lyrics 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.920 to it and I want to sit down and I want to like 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.780 look at the lyrics and like I love those albums 00:57:32.780 --> 00:57:34.559 where it's like people are working through stuff 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:36.760 it's not just uh you listen through it one time 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.059 and you've got it it's stuff that you can listen 00:57:39.059 --> 00:57:41.599 to you know there's albums that I feel like I've 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:44.760 listened to probably for 15 20 years and i'll 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.940 go through and i'll be like i've never stopped 00:57:46.940 --> 00:57:49.360 to listen to this song but now it's like really 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:51.900 impacting me for what i'm walking through right 00:57:51.900 --> 00:57:55.599 now and all so to me that's i always love whenever 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:57.739 a band's like yeah we're getting back to where 00:57:57.739 --> 00:58:00.059 it was or we're you know like looking through 00:58:00.059 --> 00:58:02.199 this or whatever i was like oh there we go he's 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:10.510 got to go let's go It's Googling lyrics, so And 00:58:10.510 --> 00:58:13.969 it's less It's nice when there's mystery behind 00:58:13.969 --> 00:58:18.110 it, you know when you're when the intended meaning 00:58:18.110 --> 00:58:20.929 or what I meant Maybe I'm guarding for a reason 00:58:20.929 --> 00:58:23.789 and someone else is going to pull their own meaning 00:58:23.789 --> 00:58:27.630 out of it, you know and the not every song like 00:58:27.630 --> 00:58:31.869 has a happy ending, you know, like and So I'm 00:58:31.869 --> 00:58:35.980 definitely all for that That's awesome. You've 00:58:35.980 --> 00:58:40.239 been able to have such cool experiences throughout 00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.599 the course of your career from like your time 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.039 and experience with the newsboys, which I'm sure 00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:50.119 gave you like interface with all different kinds 00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.480 of artists, especially in the Christian world. 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.320 And then you've got this whole the voice thing, 00:58:55.380 --> 00:58:58.260 which puts you in a whole other sphere of music 00:58:58.260 --> 00:59:01.000 with like all those all those different things. 00:59:01.019 --> 00:59:04.889 What if you could think of like One artist that 00:59:04.889 --> 00:59:09.289 you would be able to collaborate with or do something 00:59:09.289 --> 00:59:13.590 with Who do you who would you say man if I could 00:59:13.590 --> 00:59:17.030 just create something with with this artist like 00:59:17.030 --> 00:59:23.590 that would be a dream of mine Well since you're 00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:27.210 saying artist There's certain songwriters that 00:59:27.210 --> 00:59:29.949 I would love to get with but one that fits both 00:59:29.949 --> 00:59:32.570 I guess would be Ryan Tedder from OneRepublic 00:59:32.570 --> 00:59:36.489 because just an absolute amazing songwriter. 00:59:36.769 --> 00:59:43.510 He's behind some massive hits. And I think our 00:59:43.510 --> 00:59:45.789 vocal styles are similar. So it would just be 00:59:45.789 --> 00:59:48.690 fun to kind of like write stuff, you know, with 00:59:48.690 --> 00:59:51.829 him. So that's an easy one to say. That's fun. 00:59:52.469 --> 00:59:55.510 Awesome. And to close up, you know, we've talked 00:59:55.510 --> 01:00:00.539 a lot about the impact that Voda has had. When 01:00:00.539 --> 01:00:04.219 you step back, you know, 10, 20, I don't know, 01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:07.739 like 30 years now or whatever, what legacy do 01:00:07.739 --> 01:00:17.099 you want Voda to leave behind? That we were authentic, 01:00:17.260 --> 01:00:22.579 you know, that people would remember us as good 01:00:22.579 --> 01:00:25.139 people doing the right thing, making great music. 01:00:26.019 --> 01:00:30.340 Like, I feel like... in our art, we want to reach 01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:32.960 as many people as possible, right? We would love 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.420 the world to be following our art and supporting 01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:39.420 us in that way. And maybe that's still an opportunity 01:00:39.420 --> 01:00:42.860 for us, but you have to enjoy, as they say, enjoy 01:00:42.860 --> 01:00:45.619 the ride, enjoy the journey. And over the years, 01:00:45.619 --> 01:00:48.619 we've had so many situations where people that 01:00:48.619 --> 01:00:51.619 a song has meant something so special in their 01:00:51.619 --> 01:00:55.360 life or even, I remember we did a show that took 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.300 us forever to get to and... I was so tired and 01:00:58.300 --> 01:01:00.739 because we hung out with this girl at the merch 01:01:00.739 --> 01:01:04.460 table after the show She was contemplating suicide 01:01:04.460 --> 01:01:06.559 that night. She wrote us a five -page letter 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:10.460 of how that of how just those moments kind of 01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:13.199 gave her the strength to To carry on in that 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.500 day. So like and I know there's some stories 01:01:15.500 --> 01:01:21.360 like that. We don't even know so You know There's 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.679 an old old movie that robin williams was in a 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:25.699 dead poet society or whatever and it was some 01:01:25.699 --> 01:01:28.940 he was reading a poem about Like this the life 01:01:28.940 --> 01:01:31.019 is this poem and we get to contribute a verse 01:01:31.019 --> 01:01:32.880 to it or something like that I don't i'm just 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.860 paraphrasing it, but that's what I feel in some 01:01:34.860 --> 01:01:37.960 small way The art and what we've done as a band 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:41.219 and voted whether it's helping Fight human trafficking 01:01:41.219 --> 01:01:43.619 to someone just being encouraged and happy in 01:01:43.619 --> 01:01:48.119 a day with a song to um Anything in between doing 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:52.679 these high school? assemblies all of that has 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.019 had some sort of impact and matter to somebody 01:01:55.019 --> 01:02:00.420 so I You sum that up in five words, I can't do 01:02:00.420 --> 01:02:03.340 that but that's Just just to kind of keep doing 01:02:03.340 --> 01:02:07.460 that and know that you but that we we We impacted 01:02:07.460 --> 01:02:12.280 culture for for the better. Yeah that that that 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.179 would be a great way to end it That's awesome, 01:02:16.219 --> 01:02:19.829 it's such a beautiful And I think, I mean, obviously, 01:02:20.650 --> 01:02:25.010 I think the same just through my life, right? 01:02:25.190 --> 01:02:29.869 That we always hope and pray that we end our 01:02:29.869 --> 01:02:33.070 lives with the people around us a little better 01:02:33.070 --> 01:02:36.269 off because we're able to be in their lives, 01:02:36.789 --> 01:02:39.650 to have that kind of positive impact rather than 01:02:39.650 --> 01:02:42.119 a negative one. And when you think about that 01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:46.320 from a musical standpoint, the reach goes so 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.079 far and creates such an incredible opportunity 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.880 just to have beautiful impact in the lives of 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:54.780 people, as I know that you guys have already. 01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.119 And I'm sure that there's going to be even more 01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.139 great opportunities to be able to see that happen 01:03:01.139 --> 01:03:03.840 in the future. So that's cool. Sometimes, you 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.940 know, you're a pastor. It's the small things 01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:08.300 like I don't know how many times I've sung. at 01:03:08.300 --> 01:03:11.119 my church for a funeral. And those are exciting 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.780 gigs, let's just be honest. But they're impactful 01:03:13.780 --> 01:03:15.300 and they're meaningful to that family in that 01:03:15.300 --> 01:03:18.780 moment. And they asked me to be a part of it 01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:21.780 for whatever reason. The person that passed on 01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:25.780 was a fan of my voice or whatever. And those 01:03:25.780 --> 01:03:28.940 things, that's how we serve. That's how we wash 01:03:28.940 --> 01:03:31.480 feet in the kingdom is to just use this gift 01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:36.980 that God gave us to help impact. just even the 01:03:36.980 --> 01:03:39.300 individuals in those moments, you know, not always 01:03:39.300 --> 01:03:44.000 the bigger dreams that we have, so. Yeah, that's 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.099 great. Man, this has been such a good conversation. 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:52.920 It's so fun. It's like you hear music from a 01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:58.820 band and you get one like image or picture. Um, 01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.980 and it's so fun for us. Um, one of my favorite 01:04:01.980 --> 01:04:03.980 things about being able to do this podcast is 01:04:03.980 --> 01:04:06.639 just to be able to sit down with artists and 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.820 really get the heart that's going on behind what's 01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:14.400 being created. And, uh, I just think you've like 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.000 put your heart on display so much in our conversation 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.340 today and I'm grateful for it and to be able 01:04:20.340 --> 01:04:22.920 to see it. And, uh, I just appreciate you being 01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:25.579 real and vulnerable, um, in a lot of different 01:04:25.579 --> 01:04:29.239 ways. And I think that, um, I'm hoping that even 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.880 that is just an encouragement to people maybe 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:34.719 that listen to this that are walking through 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.860 hard situations or difficult things in their 01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:41.000 life to know that there is hope on the other 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:45.019 side and that God is faithful and He's going 01:04:45.019 --> 01:04:49.420 to continue to be there even when we're not sure 01:04:49.420 --> 01:04:51.099 and we don't have it all figured out and we're 01:04:51.099 --> 01:04:55.179 wondering how or why the things in our life happen. 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.239 I know for me, man, I've been encouraged by your 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.519 words today. And so really, I appreciate you 01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:05.420 taking some time to hang out with us. Oh, absolutely. 01:05:05.539 --> 01:05:07.380 Those are good words, friend. I appreciate you 01:05:07.380 --> 01:05:11.780 having me on. Yeah. Well, we are super thankful 01:05:11.780 --> 01:05:15.619 again to be able to have you on. And man, looking 01:05:15.619 --> 01:05:18.119 forward to be able to maybe have some future 01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:19.980 conversations as well. So thanks for hanging 01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:22.659 out with us today. You got it, gents. Have a 01:05:22.659 --> 01:05:31.710 good one. Thank you. All right. Well, that was 01:05:31.710 --> 01:05:33.889 a fun conversation that we were able to have 01:05:33.889 --> 01:05:37.429 with Brian Olson. Let's get into what is our 01:05:37.429 --> 01:05:50.650 lyric of the week. All right, so the lyric of 01:05:50.650 --> 01:05:53.409 the week this week since we're not covering an 01:05:53.409 --> 01:05:57.710 album comes from a star flyer 59 song who is 01:05:57.710 --> 01:06:00.849 a namesake for our podcast Hey, are you listening? 01:06:00.889 --> 01:06:03.409 We get that from a star flyer 59 song called. 01:06:04.030 --> 01:06:08.909 Hey, are you listening and this song? The lyric 01:06:08.909 --> 01:06:12.070 for this song comes from one of my favorite star 01:06:12.070 --> 01:06:16.829 flyer songs fell in love at 22 and This came 01:06:16.829 --> 01:06:21.099 out as an EP Before the album, I think, Fashion 01:06:21.099 --> 01:06:24.440 Focus came out. I heard the song on the Fell 01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:29.179 in Love at 22 EP. And simple lyrics, but this. 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:32.360 Fell in love at 22, with a girl that's close 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.320 to you. Find a job and find a life. No more long 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:39.739 days, longer nights. With your girl and family 01:06:39.739 --> 01:06:43.159 too, playing card games in the room. This is 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:48.230 our life, our old times. There's a lot of songs 01:06:48.230 --> 01:06:52.929 out there about 22. This is one. Some random 01:06:52.929 --> 01:06:57.590 artist named Taylor Swift has one. There's a 01:06:57.590 --> 01:07:02.949 Switch Fit 22 song. And so yeah, I don't know 01:07:02.949 --> 01:07:06.210 what it is, but I feel like my 22 was like a 01:07:06.210 --> 01:07:09.929 big year for me. A lot happened. I actually met 01:07:09.929 --> 01:07:14.110 my wife. That year of my life and so this song 01:07:14.110 --> 01:07:16.670 just connects with me. Mm -hmm in a lot of different 01:07:16.670 --> 01:07:21.849 ways. Mm -hmm. Yeah cool We're really grateful 01:07:21.849 --> 01:07:25.989 for you guys for joining us today for this conversation 01:07:25.989 --> 01:07:32.070 As always encourage you go find us on the internet 01:07:32.070 --> 01:07:36.739 Facebook Harry listening You can email us. We'd 01:07:36.739 --> 01:07:39.500 love your questions or comments, discussion topics. 01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.179 Email us at heyareyoulisteningpod at gmail .com 01:07:43.179 --> 01:07:45.900 and we'll look forward to seeing you back next 01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:46.320 week.