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Are you listening Well hey, welcome to Hey Are

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You Listening? This is a podcast exploring the

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past, present, and future of Christian music.

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My name is Joel and I'm here with my good friend

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Brandon. We connected over a mutual love of some

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particular artists but also have pretty different

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tastes when it comes to things. So we get to

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experience new stuff from each other while inviting

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some friends along for the journey. Brandon,

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how's it going today? I'm doing bedding out my

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microphone is to my face. As I was about to answer,

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I realized that I had it about two feet away

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so the listener would have heard. Well, I'm thankful

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that we were able to correct that and excited

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to dig into what we're doing today. Today, we

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are going to be listening to the album Ad Astra

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Per Aspera. I don't know if I said that right.

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Sounds like the right by Abandoned Kansas. And

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so I'm looking forward to getting into that in

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just a little while. But today we are starting

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a brand new segment where we're going to check

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the mail. Brandon, let's check the mail. Let's

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do it. So today, first, if you have questions

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for us, you can reach out to us at heyareuelisteningpod

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at gmail .com. Today, our friend of the show,

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Andrew Blaylock, who we've had on writes us this.

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Dear Brandon and Joel. I really enjoyed hearing

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your top 10 albums of 2025. What's your most

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anticipated album of 2026? Still listening, Andrew.

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Brandon, what are you looking forward to in 2026?

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You know, I'm scrolling through here right now

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to kind of look and see if there's anything new

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that's been announced. And, you know, I think,

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you know, we mentioned that last week on the

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podcast, it's kind of just a You got like a dry

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season kind of the beginning of the year like

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it's not usually I feel like till February or

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March that you really start seeing like Stuff

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start dropping I know there's one album That

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I know is coming out, but I don't know if it

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is been announced yet. So I don't I don't want

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to be breaking news But it's an album. I'm really

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excited about I think out of the stuff that has

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been announced is... Brandon, wait, wait. So

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you have insider knowledge about something that's

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coming out this year that you're unwilling to

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share with the rest of us? I feel like I don't

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know. You ever had one of those conversations

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where you're like, how many people have you told

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this to? Because I've had that. Back in the day,

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one of the things... Well, I still do it, but

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I do a lot of NASCAR interviews. Right. And I

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had this guy that announced this movie they were

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making. And I was like, I don't think you've

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announced that. And the guy's like, no, no, no,

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we have. It's out there. It's going to be so

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amazing. And after the interview, I realized

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this has not been announced. So I reached back

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out to his PR person. I'm like, hey, I'm happy

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to announce this, but I don't think you want

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me announcing this on my podcast. And they're

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like, yes, please delete that. And it's pretty

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good because COVID happened and it never happened.

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But I have a rule that I'm like, I understand

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that, but I'm fascinated. When it gets announced,

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I'll be like, oh yeah, this thing is coming out.

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I'm fascinated to know who you're getting insider

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info from and what's going on. I know it could

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be that new DC talk, the Jamie Grace, David Crowder.

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I'm not going to say it's that or not that, but

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I think of what has been announced is Colony

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House's 77 part two so they released the 77 album

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in two parts last year so that was my second

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favorite release of 2025 and I'm pretty excited

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to see where it goes because I know part one

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kind of had mixed reviews so I'm kind of excited

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to see if part two kind of furthers what they've

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been doing in it, or if it's more, you know,

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like faith driven, or if it's kind of like what

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it falls into. So I'm pretty excited to see kind

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of what that looks like, and that'll be dropping

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the second week in February, so it'll be here

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before you know it. Yeah, not too far away. Yeah,

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I was trying to think through this a little bit

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for myself. One, a band that I've really enjoyed

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over the last year, Idle Threat, has new music

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coming out I think this year in 2026 and so I'm

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excited about that because I got to see them

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at Furnace Fest and I've really enjoyed their

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record and I'm pumped to see what an evolution

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of that looks like, like what the next thing

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looks like because they just have the one record

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out and so... and it's been a few years and so

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I'm pretty pumped about seeing that and I saw

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them like post that they were like filming a

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music video for it so and they've said it's coming

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soon so I'm assuming that before too long we're

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gonna have news on that which would be really

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fun And then the other one probably that I'm

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really excited about is also a part two It is

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as long as I am in the tent of this body. I will

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make a joyful noise by John Van Dusen part two

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And so I'm pretty sure that one's come in this

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year I know he's working on finishing it up right

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now and he's self releasing all that stuff Has

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he announced how many tracks there's gonna be

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on that one? I think it's about the same as the

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last record about 18 36 tracks all together and

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I think they're like He didn't release the first

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volume on vinyl because they're waiting to release

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them both together on vinyl. And so I'm really

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excited for that and to get my hands on that.

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So yeah, it's gonna be a lot of songs, basically

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really three could be four albums, depending

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on how you look at. what an album is. So I feel

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like we're due for a Star Flyer 59 album this

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year. I was thinking about that a little bit

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too. It's hard to know with Jason. I mean, it

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feels like the Rocky Valentine's are just putting

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out music left and right these days. But yeah,

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I would love a Star Flyer, especially after Lust

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for Gold. I would love to see something new from

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Star Flyer and just imagine what what that's

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gonna take on. Yeah. And so is it gonna be something

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to do with Americana? Like is he gonna reimagine

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like an old style again? Yeah, I don't know.

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You know, I think that I'm really excited just

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to see what like Velvet Blue music puts out this

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year. Yeah. Because I feel like they've become

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just a record label that really surprises me

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and I feel like they're just doing stuff that

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other people aren't. or I guess like there may

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be just I don't know how to describe it but I

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feel like a lot of the labels are kind of like

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you know what you're getting like with that but

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I found myself loving a lot of their stuff like

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Fepeste and all So i'm pretty excited to see

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what their roster puts out this year. Yeah, no

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i'm with you Are you picking up all the ronnie

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martin stuff that's coming out and get into that

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his hit stuff? I feel like it piles up and then

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I go and like listen to it and so But I I feel

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like I read more I read more ronnie martin books

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last year than I did listen to albums of his

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so I don't know what that I don't know if that's

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Good that I don't know you were like probably

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never a big joy electric fan. I I like their

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stuff I think it's stuff that you put on like

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every so often you go and like put on it's not

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a daily listener Yeah, so which we'll get to

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that later on our game, but okay sounds good.

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Well, I'm excited for that So Ronnie Martin game

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Um, well, Andrew, we appreciate the question

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and look forward to getting more questions so

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we can talk about, um, these things that you

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guys want, uh, want to hear us chat through.

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And so thanks for that. Um, send in more questions

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to us at, Hey, are you listening pod at gmail

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.com? And we will love to have, um, those conversations

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as we go. So, um, it's time for us to play a

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game. Brandon, what have you got for us today?

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Alright, so this week we are covering an Abandoned

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Kansas record, so I was trying to think, should

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we look up Kansas trivia? What should we do?

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That would be rough. So instead of a trivia,

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I have a... I don't know if you would call it

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a would you rather or just what. Okay. But we're

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gonna go with the first part of their name and

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that's Abandoned. So for this game, Joel, you

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are going to be on an abandoned island, okay?

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Gotcha. And you are going to have to make a choice

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about three artists, okay? And here's the three,

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like, um, I guess that questions you have to

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answer, okay? So you're stranded on this abandoned

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island. You can choose one artist whose entire

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catalog you can bring. And just to make, just

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for clarity's sake, we're going to say like if

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it's Toby Mack, it's just his solo stuff. So

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it's not DC Talk. It's just, you type in the

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name and you get all of that. So one artist,

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you can have their entire catalog to bring with

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you and to listen to while you're waiting to

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be rescued or while you're enjoying this abandoned

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island or whatever. One artist is stranded with

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you on the island. So they're alive, they're

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hanging out. and so they're they're helping you

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get off the island or like I said you guys are

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waiting to be saved or whatever and then you

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have one artist who's rescuing you all right

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okay so let's go let's go first with uh whose

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catalog are you bringing all right so the artist

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whose catalog that i'm bringing to the album

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or to the album to the island um this abandoned

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island i think I think I have, and this could

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be recency bias, but just the sheer catalog that

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already exists out there. Plus the variety that's

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there. I think I'm going to have to go with John

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Van Dusen because you've got the, you have all

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the, the four I am origami albums, some of which

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are like, Tooth and now more like alternative

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indie rock more and you've got more worship stuff.

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There's just a lot of variety That is in his

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stuff. And so I feel like it would give me a

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good like broad Amount of stuff to listen to

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and so I'd probably go with that Yeah, I think

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for me I'm going with Toby Mack and I think that

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a lot of artists I listen to it's this like deeper

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stuff So like if I'm stranded, I don't know if

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I want to listen to like a me without you or

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a house of heroes. So I feel like with Toby stuff,

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there's if I just need to relax, I've got that.

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If I need something to get me like going, I've

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got some more stuff that's like a little heavier

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on there. So go with some Toby Mac. OK, I think

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that makes sense. All right. So now who's going

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to be stranded on the island with you? So this

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is someone who is Like I said, you're either

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either hanging out with or you're getting them

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to help you build your raft or your boat or start

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a fire or whatever. So I think for all of the

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above, the answer that I would have to give is

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Rich Mullins. Rich is a guy who's kind of rough

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around the edges in a lot of ways. And so when

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it comes to living on the island, like I just

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feel like it's going to be natural for him. And

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so I can naturally just kind of learn from him

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what that looks like. Just because he's a guy

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that got back to like the simple stuff of life.

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Like he left the limelight of the CCM stage and

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went to live on a Native American reservation

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and just taught kids about the gospel and sang

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songs. And I'm like, yes. So. But I think we

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would have the most fascinating conversations

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as well. And I think Rich looked a lot like Jesus.

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And so I think if I had to pick an artist, like

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he would be the one that I would want to be hanging

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around with and spending time with. So, yeah,

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Rich Mullins. I think it's funny real fast is

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because I tried to look, I typed in manly Christian

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artist. You want to guess who's the number one

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Google when it popped up? Brandon Lake. Chris

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Tomlin. Yeah, that surprises me. It would be

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funny if it came out that Chris Tomlin actually

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was a huge outdoorsman. I think for me, I'm going

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the route of I'm hoping to be saved fast. So

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they're not the person that's saving you they're

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the person that you're hanging out with yeah

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Yeah, so it's like i'm not planning on being

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this island for long So I feel like I don't need

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someone who's like needs to help build a shelter.

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I got you i'm just going with someone that I'm

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thinking we start a campfire Um, and I think

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I need someone who's like on maybe the same basic

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survival Uh level as me i'm going not more No,

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then for some reason I just I don't want them

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to I don't want to spend my whole time on the

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island feeling like I'm not helping. I need someone

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who's like, I don't know how to fish. Me neither,

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man. I don't know how to build a raft out of

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a boat or out of an oak tree. I'm going to go

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with Gable Price. I feel like just from his Instagram

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and all, I feel like we would get along really

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well if he's listening to this right now. I could

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be one of the friends. Gable, if you ever want

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to get stranded on an island, I'm in. That's

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what if I ever do a meet and greet, I'll be like,

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hey, man. That's funny. And then finally, the

00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.840
artist who is rescuing you. So this person is,

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I don't know, showing up in a plane or on a boat

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or they're just like one day they come cutting

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through the forest with a machete. this one's

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the hard one for me and I guess because like

00:16:01.629 --> 00:16:04.350
here's does it actually are they rescuing me

00:16:04.350 --> 00:16:07.669
no matter what or This is these are the people

00:16:07.669 --> 00:16:10.350
that are attempting to rescue me. Yeah, they're

00:16:10.350 --> 00:16:14.950
gonna rescue no matter what okay, so like That's

00:16:14.950 --> 00:16:17.750
interesting because I'm not like thinking about

00:16:17.750 --> 00:16:21.309
their actual ability to rescue me Whatever they

00:16:21.309 --> 00:16:25.769
do it works out, right? Then I'd probably have

00:16:25.769 --> 00:16:28.169
to go I'm gonna go with a large group of people

00:16:28.169 --> 00:16:30.970
just because it's more fun And so I'll go with

00:16:30.970 --> 00:16:33.690
five iron frenzy I would want Reese Roper to

00:16:33.690 --> 00:16:36.269
be the one busting through the foliage saying

00:16:36.269 --> 00:16:42.129
we It just sounds like it'd be a good time of

00:16:42.129 --> 00:16:45.909
rescue so Yeah, five iron frenzy. You said large

00:16:45.909 --> 00:16:50.450
group. I was thinking like casting crowns No,

00:16:50.450 --> 00:16:54.690
I meant people I'm going to go with Jason Martin.

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Okay. I just imagine him showing up. He's got

00:16:57.809 --> 00:17:00.750
a leather jacket on and I don't know, he shows

00:17:00.750 --> 00:17:06.089
up like in a semi truck or whatever. Jason Martin

00:17:06.089 --> 00:17:08.730
would be an interesting one too for like with

00:17:08.730 --> 00:17:12.309
you on the island because he's so cool that like

00:17:12.309 --> 00:17:15.349
everything he does would just work. And so you

00:17:15.349 --> 00:17:18.069
wouldn't have to worry about anything. Just because

00:17:18.069 --> 00:17:20.309
you're with Jason Martin. He's like the epitome

00:17:20.309 --> 00:17:22.369
of the cool guy. He's just snapping his finger

00:17:22.369 --> 00:17:24.970
coconut falls on one hand fire starts in the

00:17:24.970 --> 00:17:29.549
other It just works. I love that. That's a great

00:17:29.549 --> 00:17:31.470
answer. There you go. It sounds like we're both

00:17:31.470 --> 00:17:33.910
we're gonna be thriving on these abandoned islands

00:17:33.910 --> 00:17:38.890
Let's hope so. Let's hope so. That's fun. That's

00:17:38.890 --> 00:17:40.990
fun. Well, thanks for walking us through that

00:17:40.990 --> 00:17:43.819
That's a fun thing to think through Um, Brandon,

00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:45.220
let's talk about what we've been listening to

00:17:45.220 --> 00:17:48.900
lately. What have you been spending time with?

00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.880
I had this just pulled up before you said that

00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:55.940
if you want to go for, I can start if that's

00:17:55.940 --> 00:17:57.940
helpful. Oh, no, I actually, I can go. Sorry.

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I just pulled it. I didn't know where I had it

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pulled up. Um, I was listening to, um, some bleach

00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:08.539
the other day. I was, um, I was listening to,

00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.440
I forget what I was listening to, but you know

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how like, um, I don't know if it does the same

00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.319
with Apple, but with Spotify, once you finish

00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:18.539
an album, a lot of times it'll just start on

00:18:18.539 --> 00:18:22.440
a playlist of stuff kind of the same way. And

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it came on and I was like, oh, that's Bleach.

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And it ended up being like four or five of their

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songs that came on. So it wasn't intentional.

00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:38.059
But it was cool. And I feel like in the coming

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week or so, I'll definitely be diving more into

00:18:40.500 --> 00:18:44.990
them. Because I think even in the past, it's

00:18:44.990 --> 00:18:48.950
kind of like a little bit of this album or that

00:18:48.950 --> 00:18:51.690
album I've listened to. But I'm pretty excited

00:18:51.690 --> 00:18:55.470
to get to dive in and learn a little bit more

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about them and their sound. That's fun. Do you

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remember any of the songs that popped up for

00:19:00.329 --> 00:19:06.410
you? I think it was primarily off of their like

00:19:06.410 --> 00:19:09.880
self titled. 1999 release with like a count on

00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.339
it. That's a good record And then I think again

00:19:12.339 --> 00:19:14.880
for the first time because I think baseline came

00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:21.319
on there. I recognize that The other ones Man,

00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.299
i'm trying to I feel like if I played them I

00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:25.779
would those are probably those are probably my

00:19:25.779 --> 00:19:29.759
two favorite bleach records. So Um, that's fun

00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:34.640
for sure Yeah for me, um, I Again, we've talked

00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:36.059
about the beginning of the year being a little

00:19:36.059 --> 00:19:39.099
bit of a dry spell for like new music So it does

00:19:39.099 --> 00:19:43.440
feel that way for me. And so I I don't have a

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CCM Christian answer for this question this go

00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:51.619
-around But I think that one thing that came

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out that I didn't know about until my nephew

00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:58.079
actually told me about it was the band cigarettes

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They re -released in 2025 uh 20th anniversary

00:20:04.769 --> 00:20:09.190
of their talk album um which is one of my favorite

00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:12.230
records by them and so that by itself was really

00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:16.190
cool but then they put out um a different version

00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:19.390
of it called tape variations as well which is

00:20:19.390 --> 00:20:24.390
more like um chill almost like dreamy kind of

00:20:24.390 --> 00:20:26.710
versions of the songs that i think somebody else

00:20:26.710 --> 00:20:30.750
helped them like reimagine um and it's really

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really good and the kind of music that i can

00:20:32.829 --> 00:20:35.750
turn on and get some work done too and so it's

00:20:35.750 --> 00:20:37.750
been something that's like popped up in the background

00:20:37.750 --> 00:20:41.509
a lot for me um but i uh yeah i love cigarettes

00:20:41.509 --> 00:20:45.950
they're great all right well let's get into Abandoned

00:20:45.950 --> 00:20:50.190
Kansas and so um i'll give us a little information

00:20:50.190 --> 00:20:52.650
about this record there's not a lot out there

00:20:52.650 --> 00:20:57.130
um on this one But Ad Astra Per Aspera is the

00:20:57.130 --> 00:20:59.710
second studio album by the American Christian

00:20:59.710 --> 00:21:02.730
rock band Abandoned Kansas. It's their first

00:21:02.730 --> 00:21:05.190
full length album released by Goatee Records

00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:09.609
following up their EP on Goatee. We're all going

00:21:09.609 --> 00:21:14.430
somewhere. Jesus Freak Hideout gave this four

00:21:14.430 --> 00:21:19.369
stars and HM Magazine three stars when it came

00:21:19.369 --> 00:21:23.819
out. Brandon, talk to me. a little bit about

00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:28.200
your history with this band and this album. Yeah,

00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:34.299
I found Abandoned Kansas. So I go back to before

00:21:34.299 --> 00:21:37.519
streaming, there was this magical time where

00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.579
there was digital music that you could get for

00:21:39.579 --> 00:21:43.200
free legally from places and Goto Records was

00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.460
one of those places that gave away music for

00:21:45.460 --> 00:21:49.000
free. So each of their artists, they would have

00:21:49.869 --> 00:21:53.170
like sometimes like one sometimes three tracks

00:21:53.170 --> 00:21:56.049
on there you could download so i downloaded it

00:21:56.049 --> 00:21:58.609
from um a couple of tracks from there we're all

00:21:58.609 --> 00:22:02.970
going somewhere ep yeah um and just really liked

00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.529
um because i think they were kind of around the

00:22:05.529 --> 00:22:08.049
time that i was getting into more of this like

00:22:08.049 --> 00:22:11.730
um i guess alternative or like indie sound and

00:22:11.730 --> 00:22:14.509
i think that's where like i really found a home

00:22:14.509 --> 00:22:18.349
um with like my music listening was just bands

00:22:18.349 --> 00:22:22.970
that were their own thing. And I just felt like

00:22:22.970 --> 00:22:27.609
they were doing that. So whenever they released

00:22:27.609 --> 00:22:30.210
this one, I remember being like, oh, that's pretty

00:22:30.210 --> 00:22:33.690
cool. They're releasing this one. And what's

00:22:33.690 --> 00:22:36.390
funny is going back and listening, I don't think

00:22:36.390 --> 00:22:40.410
I ever listened to the like second side of this.

00:22:40.789 --> 00:22:45.339
Like I haven't come my way like it or not. Our

00:22:45.339 --> 00:22:48.039
songs have been on so many playlists, but there's

00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.819
a lot of this album So it was funny that I remember

00:22:52.819 --> 00:22:55.440
you asking Hey, is there one of these anniversary

00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.140
albums that you want? And I think I even said

00:22:58.140 --> 00:23:01.299
we should do this album. It's awesome I was like,

00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:04.220
I don't know why I was like, this is awesome.

00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:06.500
Even though I haven't listened to majority of

00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:10.019
it. I'm just assuming it's awesome What's funny

00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:13.819
is And I think that this album holds a distinction

00:23:13.819 --> 00:23:17.660
of it is the only album that I own an air freshener

00:23:17.660 --> 00:23:21.460
of. Because back in the day, Goatee was doing

00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:23.460
these really cool things with their releases

00:23:23.460 --> 00:23:27.460
where like with House of Heroes, they would send

00:23:27.460 --> 00:23:30.880
these dog tags with the end is not the end. And

00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.319
then they would send out like postcards with

00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:36.720
Suburba. And then with this one, they gave out

00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.710
postcards. And I think maybe a bookmark, but

00:23:39.710 --> 00:23:42.130
they also gave away an air freshener. So at my

00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:45.910
house on my bookshelf, I've got a air freshener

00:23:45.910 --> 00:23:49.009
from this album. Is it still wrapped? Yeah, it's

00:23:49.009 --> 00:23:52.769
still wrapped. I don't know what the scent of

00:23:52.769 --> 00:23:59.170
this album is. But it's heavenly. I was about

00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:01.910
to say I was a sucker, but I'm still like a sucker

00:24:01.910 --> 00:24:06.309
for, I think that's so cool whenever people put

00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:09.099
out just some kind of creative thing like that,

00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:11.099
like it just adds to the album. I think I've

00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:14.200
got the Suburba postcards from when I bought

00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.299
that album, from when the vinyl, when it came

00:24:16.299 --> 00:24:21.200
out. Yeah, that's cool. So when this album came

00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:27.359
out, I'm pretty sure. I don't remember the year.

00:24:27.539 --> 00:24:32.319
I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So band in Kansas, I was.

00:24:32.410 --> 00:24:34.690
in student ministry. I was a youth pastor at

00:24:34.690 --> 00:24:39.049
the time and I was getting that whole thing where

00:24:39.049 --> 00:24:41.910
youth pastors will pay, I don't even remember

00:24:41.910 --> 00:24:43.690
what it's called now, and get like Christian

00:24:43.690 --> 00:24:46.269
albums. You'll get like a box of them every month

00:24:46.269 --> 00:24:48.950
or every two months so that you can listen to

00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:53.470
and expose your students to all this music, which

00:24:53.470 --> 00:24:57.470
was cool. It really allowed me to get exposed

00:24:57.470 --> 00:24:59.549
to a lot of these bands that I probably wouldn't

00:24:59.549 --> 00:25:02.710
have because I tend to like stay in my own lane

00:25:02.710 --> 00:25:06.269
when it comes to music. But when I got these

00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:08.009
CDs, I'm like, of course I'm going to go and

00:25:08.009 --> 00:25:10.809
check them out and listen to them. And so one

00:25:10.809 --> 00:25:13.930
of those that I got was that EP, We're All Going

00:25:13.930 --> 00:25:18.940
Somewhere by a band in Kansas. And so I put it

00:25:18.940 --> 00:25:21.940
in and instantly was just like, man, I love this.

00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:25.500
I dig this. It's creative. It's out there. But

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:30.559
the songwriting is so good. There's like a randomness

00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:34.420
to their music. Yeah. And we'll talk about as

00:25:34.420 --> 00:25:37.220
we get into the album, but they take a lot of

00:25:37.220 --> 00:25:43.089
creative risk. Not just like. big ways but in

00:25:43.089 --> 00:25:46.269
a lot of small ways which which I think is really

00:25:46.269 --> 00:25:49.809
interesting and so for me like on that EP we're

00:25:49.809 --> 00:25:53.269
all going somewhere that just worked like all

00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:56.109
the time yeah and there's not a song on that

00:25:56.109 --> 00:25:59.289
EP that I don't love and I think it's I think

00:25:59.289 --> 00:26:01.769
it's really good and I remember when Ad Astra

00:26:01.769 --> 00:26:08.190
Prosper came out I think I somehow have the Amazon

00:26:09.380 --> 00:26:11.680
Release of this that came with a bonus track.

00:26:11.940 --> 00:26:15.799
Yeah I don't know if I just bought it on Amazon

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.039
or I probably did buy the CD on Amazon or something

00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:24.359
and somehow got the bonus track but but yeah

00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.960
I just the whole time was like, this is a band

00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.980
that's pretty creative. And so, um, however,

00:26:31.180 --> 00:26:33.500
like I'd never spent like you, I never spent

00:26:33.500 --> 00:26:36.000
as much time with this full length record as

00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.380
I did with that EP. And so it was interesting

00:26:38.380 --> 00:26:41.500
for me to kind of go back and listen to it and

00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:43.880
catch up on it. Do you know what add Astra per

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:48.420
Aspera means? I actually looked it up for this,

00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:51.680
but I was seeing different, um, translations.

00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:56.059
Like one was like, it was like, Hope and faith

00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:59.480
and another one was like doubt and fear and then

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:02.960
another thing said like To the stars. Yeah, I

00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:07.039
think it's the to the stars So what I saw was

00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.940
he was lying to me to the stars through hardship

00:27:09.940 --> 00:27:15.819
or suffering or something like that And so I

00:27:15.819 --> 00:27:17.619
thought that was really interesting. You know,

00:27:17.619 --> 00:27:20.039
what's really fascinating about this though Brandon

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:25.079
add Astra per aspera is the motto of the state

00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:31.480
of Kansas. And so I couldn't help but think through

00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:37.059
that a little bit, because they're abandoning

00:27:37.059 --> 00:27:41.240
Kansas. And so does that also mean that they're

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:44.960
abandoning the idea of To The Stars through hardship?

00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.900
I don't know. Maybe they're just a band that

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.299
Abandoned Kansas. Yeah Yeah, you have to wonder

00:27:56.299 --> 00:27:59.240
I actually think there is something to that that

00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.920
they were joking about being an Abandoned Kansas

00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.640
and I think that's where it came from. Yes. Yeah,

00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.380
we're just abandoned Kansas Yeah, and then they're

00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:12.900
like, oh abandoned Kansas. Yeah Well those names

00:28:12.900 --> 00:28:14.920
that you're like it sounds so cool, but you're

00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:19.380
like doesn't make sense Anyways, that's kind

00:28:19.380 --> 00:28:23.730
of a cool title um just knowing everything that's

00:28:23.730 --> 00:28:26.029
there um about that so i thought that was kind

00:28:26.029 --> 00:28:30.069
of an interesting tidbit about this um any any

00:28:30.069 --> 00:28:32.690
big thoughts before we kind of break into track

00:28:32.690 --> 00:28:35.349
for track that you have you want to talk about

00:28:35.349 --> 00:28:39.130
no i i think it's just um it's interesting because

00:28:39.130 --> 00:28:42.650
i think that like um you know i made a comment

00:28:42.650 --> 00:28:45.849
earlier that i think abandoned kansas came at

00:28:45.849 --> 00:28:49.809
a time where there was just a lot um going on

00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.299
and I think bands like this sometimes get overlooked.

00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.420
Because, you know, I think that like a House

00:28:57.420 --> 00:29:00.000
of Heroes, they're not like a household name,

00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.180
but I feel like there's a good bit of people

00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:05.900
that if you mention like a House of Heroes or

00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:09.519
a Showbread or even like a Family Force V, they're

00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.599
like, yeah, I know them. But I feel like a band

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:16.000
in Kansas, they fall more into not like a neon

00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.480
horse level, but I think that they're a band

00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.200
that you have less people or people might it

00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.079
takes them listening to a song to um and i don't

00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.119
know i think bands like that is always kind of

00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.240
sad when you listen something like this because

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.920
i if i remember correctly i don't think that

00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:40.039
this was a huge commercial success yeah and um

00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.079
and listening to it like it kind of i don't know

00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.569
like i i love knowing the Backgrounds to albums

00:29:46.569 --> 00:29:49.230
and sometimes that helps and sometimes that just

00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:55.069
kind of it gets a little kind of Depressing when

00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:57.230
you're like, oh this song this album doesn't

00:29:57.230 --> 00:30:01.250
have the best like yeah history whatever yeah,

00:30:01.250 --> 00:30:06.690
I think um So I don't want to get too far ahead

00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:09.190
and talking about it, but I think there's a lot

00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:11.369
on this album that works really well. Mm -hmm

00:30:11.579 --> 00:30:14.839
Um, but I don't think that it's as cohesive and

00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.380
it works as well as that EP. We're all going

00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:23.039
somewhere. I don't think that there are songs

00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.319
here that are the height of the songs on that

00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.819
album. Um, and I do think that they probably

00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:33.859
take, it's just interesting because to me, that

00:30:33.859 --> 00:30:37.079
record is a little more raw and a little more

00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.900
edgy, a little heavier. And they don't ever really

00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:42.440
get there on this album. So it's a little bit

00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:46.619
of a like softer take on their sound in some

00:30:46.619 --> 00:30:49.559
ways, but Yeah, I don't know. We'll get into

00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.259
it. Let's start. Yeah, we'll start track by track.

00:30:51.740 --> 00:30:56.240
So First track on the record is heaven come my

00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.839
way. What were your thoughts on that one? I think

00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:03.079
it sets up the rest of the album really well

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.700
There's this like struggle and this search going

00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:12.039
on This is a song that, like, I've always loved.

00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.759
I think it's, if I had a Mount Rushmore of abandoned

00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.319
Kansas songs, like, this one's probably making

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:23.180
it onto there. I think it's just, it's good,

00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:28.220
and I just love that, like, Jeremy, the lead

00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:30.539
singer, like, he just paints this picture of

00:31:30.539 --> 00:31:34.799
this, like, this dysfunction or this despair

00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.759
or this struggle, whatever you want to call it.

00:31:37.049 --> 00:31:40.369
like just really well and it comes across as

00:31:40.369 --> 00:31:43.710
just that this is a guy that someone's not handing

00:31:43.710 --> 00:31:46.490
him like here's someone else's story can you

00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:48.930
please like tell that like it feels like this

00:31:48.930 --> 00:31:51.930
is a band that's telling how they're feeling

00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:55.769
um and i think that that works really well um

00:31:55.769 --> 00:31:59.670
for them yeah i can totally agree with you this

00:31:59.670 --> 00:32:01.789
this is one of my favorite songs on the album

00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.319
um and i think that um one of the things that

00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.460
i do love about this record that i think from

00:32:07.460 --> 00:32:10.240
start to finish is just really strong are the

00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.119
lyrics um i think he's a great songwriter and

00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:18.960
really thoughtful and so um the lyrics all are

00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.880
um creative in all those ways and i think that

00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.839
they work really well and i think i mean this

00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.130
song is an example of that but The things that

00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:31.670
stand out to me here like they they are weird

00:32:31.670 --> 00:32:35.250
guitar players Like they do things with a guitar

00:32:35.250 --> 00:32:39.009
that other bands don't do they're riskier. They're

00:32:39.009 --> 00:32:44.029
like The tempos that they play on are weird with

00:32:44.029 --> 00:32:47.410
guitars the rhythms that they use There's like

00:32:47.410 --> 00:32:51.109
weird chorded rhythm guitars with these also

00:32:51.109 --> 00:32:54.569
interesting and kind of weird lead lines but

00:32:54.569 --> 00:32:57.670
it works really well on a song like heaven come

00:32:57.670 --> 00:33:00.930
my way and his vocals are great i don't think

00:33:00.930 --> 00:33:03.369
they're the vocals are as like present as they

00:33:03.369 --> 00:33:07.470
are on um on we're all going somewhere on that

00:33:07.470 --> 00:33:10.750
ep um but but they're really good i think it's

00:33:10.750 --> 00:33:14.670
a great opener it's got a lot of energy it's

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:17.190
i would say probably the poppiest song on the

00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:21.759
record the catchiest song on the record um And

00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:26.359
I love the end like the tie -in to the album

00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.640
title the to the stars section and ending like

00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:33.019
is a clear call to like This is what this album

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:37.579
is. Um And so yeah, I think this is a great song

00:33:37.579 --> 00:33:41.440
and it just it works. I love it Uh next we move

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.799
to liar. How do you feel about that track? Yeah,

00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.990
um, I was again the guitar work is Interesting

00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:53.369
and kind of fascinating to me the rhythm guitars

00:33:53.369 --> 00:33:57.190
reminded me of some of like the killers Guitar

00:33:57.190 --> 00:34:00.190
work these like just really interesting ways

00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:03.069
of playing a rhythm to a song. That's in like

00:34:03.069 --> 00:34:09.610
a pretty normal time signature And so I thought

00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:12.449
that was fascinating the drums are great on this

00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:17.070
I like this song but like all of the like catchy

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:20.420
and pop Melody of the first song I feel like

00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:25.679
is missing uh -huh on this song It just it doesn't

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.219
catch me as much like melodically if that makes

00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:32.900
sense. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I think this is a track

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:38.139
that um, I Feel like back when I listened to

00:34:38.139 --> 00:34:42.139
it. It was kind of like a skip track Just because

00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:44.780
I feel like it wasn't on the same level, but

00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:50.650
I think that now I really appreciate um The chorus

00:34:50.650 --> 00:34:53.710
I feel like it's got a really strong chorus And

00:34:53.710 --> 00:34:56.610
I think too it's just like whenever you introduce

00:34:56.610 --> 00:34:59.750
tim skipper into the equation It just lifts a

00:34:59.750 --> 00:35:03.449
song up. So I think I appreciated it you know,

00:35:03.449 --> 00:35:07.630
like all all of the um Like the the fan of house

00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:10.230
of heroes aside and all I feel like even if I

00:35:10.230 --> 00:35:14.309
didn't um like no Tim I would still be like okay

00:35:14.309 --> 00:35:18.269
this this other guest vocalist is like adding

00:35:18.269 --> 00:35:21.769
a little bit of like heart or whatever like to

00:35:21.769 --> 00:35:25.369
the the calling out or like the accusing of like

00:35:25.369 --> 00:35:29.550
you're a liar yeah so um yeah I feel like it

00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:34.550
it um it's an it's not like as good as like heaven

00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:36.530
come my way but I feel like it was still like

00:35:36.530 --> 00:35:41.809
a solid track that's cool Track number three,

00:35:42.610 --> 00:35:46.409
like it or not. What'd you think about this one?

00:35:46.769 --> 00:35:48.449
It's got a little bit of a different feel. Yeah,

00:35:48.489 --> 00:35:52.269
I'm really excited to get your thoughts on this

00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:59.230
one. I love this track. I love it. It's got a

00:35:59.230 --> 00:36:04.199
really fun music video. I feel like that stuff,

00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:06.559
it's hard to disconnect sometimes. I feel like

00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.340
there's tracks where I'm like, I love the track,

00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.739
but that music video was really bad. But I love

00:36:12.739 --> 00:36:16.679
it. And I think it's a nice change of pace to

00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.860
keep this whole record from being a like, oh,

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.480
I'm stuck in sorrow or I'm depressed or whatever.

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.579
I feel like it was a nice kind of change. And

00:36:27.579 --> 00:36:30.460
I think it is a lot different, but I think it

00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.099
it works well um because you still have this

00:36:34.099 --> 00:36:37.420
like cleverness throughout it and just this like

00:36:37.420 --> 00:36:41.820
um like fun funness to it yeah i love the fact

00:36:41.820 --> 00:36:44.699
that it's different um i love that it opens up

00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:48.940
with like piano and hand claps yeah um that's

00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:50.900
the kind of stuff i'm here for like let's change

00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:52.980
the pace up from just starting with a guitar

00:36:52.980 --> 00:36:55.300
riff to doing something that's a little different

00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:59.079
and so i thought that was great um this song

00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.719
works really well for me throughout most of it

00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.179
but they do this thing on the verses like on

00:37:05.179 --> 00:37:07.059
the first verse you have the piano hand clap

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:11.239
thing going on and on the last verse you have

00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:15.079
this like these guitar hits that are really on

00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.099
verse three these guitar hits that are really

00:37:17.099 --> 00:37:21.860
cool That work really well verse three is awesome.

00:37:21.980 --> 00:37:24.940
I love the feel of it Yeah, but they do this

00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:27.639
thing on verse two where they they're transitioning

00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.420
throughout the song to that and they do the guitar

00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:33.840
hits with the piano thing And it doesn't work

00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.500
for me like together in verse two Um, and that

00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:39.559
for whatever reason like I love the rest of the

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.280
song but verse two i'm just like what this feels

00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.460
super disjointed Like the two things I just didn't

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:47.539
feel like worked well together. Even though I

00:37:47.539 --> 00:37:50.800
love them both individually. And so that's one

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.940
of those moments where I'm like, they tried something

00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:55.500
that was creative and I just don't know like

00:37:55.500 --> 00:37:58.059
that it landed super well, but I love the fact

00:37:58.059 --> 00:38:00.780
that they were trying it. But the song is great.

00:38:00.820 --> 00:38:03.480
I love the gang vocals that are on it. I love

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:08.619
the drums on the bridge are so cool. And yeah,

00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.679
I think the chorus, the melody is better. than

00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.539
a lyre and so this was definitely like a step

00:38:14.539 --> 00:38:17.099
up for me and i'm like yeah i love this this

00:38:17.099 --> 00:38:22.280
is cool yeah um yeah we move into uh golden state

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.480
next what are your thoughts yeah golden state

00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.860
um i like the guitars that are at the start um

00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:35.679
it's not my favorite song um and this is one

00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.360
that i definitely remembered because that line

00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.920
just stands out to me That like the idea of California

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.539
burning like a cigarette or whatever Like um,

00:38:45.539 --> 00:38:50.280
it stood out to me years ago. Um, and so I mean,

00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.739
I think it's I think it's it's fine. Um, but

00:38:54.739 --> 00:38:58.420
And it's weird because I really love his vocals.

00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:03.320
Um, I love his voice and I love his vocals but

00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:08.460
I feel like again They try and do these things

00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:11.900
creatively that are a little like dissonant That

00:39:11.900 --> 00:39:17.500
aren't like standard pop whatever And so I just

00:39:17.500 --> 00:39:22.579
feel like this is a place where the chorus Takes

00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:25.920
a hit because of that And there are places where

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.760
I feel like he could be going up and like lifting

00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.079
the chorus up a little bit But instead makes

00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.820
the choice to like go down It just like loses.

00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:36.880
I think a little bit of what it could do because

00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:44.900
of that So I yeah, I don't know I think this

00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:47.739
is it's this is one of my favorite tracks on

00:39:47.739 --> 00:39:51.480
the album I get it. I get it. Yeah, and it's

00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:55.099
it's hard to describe. I think the the The part

00:39:55.099 --> 00:39:58.260
that just sets this and every time I listen to

00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:02.980
it, like I think it just um like think it just

00:40:02.980 --> 00:40:06.780
makes the whole song is that there's just this

00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:11.039
like Power behind whenever he goes like then

00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.659
I came around and the whole place caught on fire.

00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:19.219
Mm -hmm. Like it's this I don't know how to describe

00:40:19.219 --> 00:40:21.199
it because I feel like it's not like they're

00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.480
doing this grand thing but it like starts with

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:28.860
just kind of this like, you know, like then that

00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:32.250
hits and it feels like there's just like Like

00:40:32.250 --> 00:40:34.670
I said, I don't know how but it's like the the

00:40:34.670 --> 00:40:38.190
energy volume or power just gets like shot up

00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:42.309
like with it and I just like I just think it's

00:40:42.309 --> 00:40:46.210
really cool Like it almost gives you like it

00:40:46.210 --> 00:40:48.250
for me. It almost gives me like chills when I

00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:53.949
hear it. Yeah and I just I I appreciate like

00:40:53.949 --> 00:40:57.590
that part like of the song Yeah, I know this

00:40:57.590 --> 00:41:01.070
is one of the more popular songs off this record

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.960
And and I get why and I mean it's one of the

00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.019
songs that stuck with me that I remembered Pretty

00:41:09.019 --> 00:41:11.840
significantly from when I was listening to this

00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:15.840
record and so I get that I just wish that some

00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.059
of the choices were like a little a little different

00:41:18.059 --> 00:41:21.900
on it. So Alright track five is a conversation

00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:25.039
with the sky. What were your thoughts on this

00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:32.420
one? I Liked it I liked the the thing they were

00:41:32.420 --> 00:41:34.679
doing where his microphone it sounded like he

00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.679
was like Talking through like a walkie -talkie.

00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.460
Yeah, or there's just like I don't know like

00:41:39.460 --> 00:41:41.960
there's like paper in between his voice or whatever

00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:46.840
I felt like it it added like I feel like with

00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.940
his um with his voice like It's it's definitely

00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:55.000
a voice that people either love or they get like

00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.670
tired of after a while. Yeah So I feel like it's

00:41:58.670 --> 00:42:01.429
cool when you're doing these little things, like

00:42:01.429 --> 00:42:04.750
even when it is just this little tweak of this

00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:08.489
effect on a microphone, I think it helps with

00:42:08.489 --> 00:42:12.110
that. How about you? Yeah, I like this one a

00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:14.730
lot. I think the groove of it is cool. I think

00:42:14.730 --> 00:42:17.590
the song builds in all the right ways as it goes

00:42:17.590 --> 00:42:20.889
on. I love the guitar work. I think it's really

00:42:20.889 --> 00:42:25.730
good. The pre -choruses are cool. The ending

00:42:25.730 --> 00:42:28.070
of the song is cool. There's like Some pretty

00:42:28.070 --> 00:42:32.289
strong scents that are going on there And so

00:42:32.289 --> 00:42:35.849
yeah, I like I like this one. I think it's it's

00:42:35.849 --> 00:42:38.670
for me one of the stronger songs on the record

00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:42.409
Where else can we go but talking about track

00:42:42.409 --> 00:42:48.150
six where else can we go? Yeah So track six where

00:42:48.150 --> 00:42:50.809
else can we go? I can't wait to hear your thoughts

00:42:50.809 --> 00:42:54.530
on it. I this is one of my favorite maybe Top

00:42:54.530 --> 00:42:57.449
two favorite songs on the record. Um, I think

00:42:57.449 --> 00:43:00.329
it's a good pace change, which maybe you're not

00:43:00.329 --> 00:43:02.989
here for, I don't know, but It worked well for

00:43:02.989 --> 00:43:06.090
me. There were like qualities of like a hymn

00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:08.909
almost in it that I felt and maybe that's part

00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:12.469
of why I loved it because I love I love hymns,

00:43:12.489 --> 00:43:15.630
but There's like a lot of changes that happen

00:43:15.630 --> 00:43:18.190
throughout this song and it's one of those like

00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:22.230
risky Creative things that abandoned Kansas does

00:43:22.230 --> 00:43:24.750
it doesn't always work for me, but it works for

00:43:24.750 --> 00:43:29.710
me on this one I think I think I think it works.

00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:32.130
Well, I really really like this one Yeah, no,

00:43:32.250 --> 00:43:33.849
that's uh, that's actually what I wrote down

00:43:33.849 --> 00:43:36.349
too was that I just really enjoyed these like

00:43:36.349 --> 00:43:38.730
changes of pace and how it transitions from this

00:43:38.730 --> 00:43:42.530
like Slow soft to like this gradual like more

00:43:42.530 --> 00:43:47.230
energy. Yeah For me it like worked i think it's

00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:51.530
just it's really fascinating too that um i think

00:43:51.530 --> 00:43:54.030
for me a lot of times like there's stuff where

00:43:54.030 --> 00:43:57.690
it's like um like lyrics or something that i'll

00:43:57.690 --> 00:44:01.030
think about like the choices people are making

00:44:01.030 --> 00:44:03.550
with this or that but i think it's fascinating

00:44:03.550 --> 00:44:07.090
um kind of hearing you point out the little things

00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:10.730
with like guitar or like the little sounds um

00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:13.650
and it's just like i don't know to me it's just

00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:16.690
interesting kind of like Hearing you build like

00:44:16.690 --> 00:44:19.269
your your case for your review off of this, right?

00:44:19.269 --> 00:44:21.750
Because it reminds me of albums that I'm like,

00:44:21.750 --> 00:44:24.909
yeah This could go either way because it's like

00:44:24.909 --> 00:44:28.429
it's like if you make these ten changes, it's

00:44:28.429 --> 00:44:31.869
a 4 .5, you know album or whatever But if you

00:44:31.869 --> 00:44:34.869
make the other ones, it's not so much like that

00:44:34.869 --> 00:44:37.829
So I I think it's just interesting kind of like

00:44:37.829 --> 00:44:41.550
going with this and seeing just kind of like

00:44:41.550 --> 00:44:45.909
almost keeping a tally of how many Like choices

00:44:45.909 --> 00:44:47.969
are being made where it's like let's take this

00:44:47.969 --> 00:44:52.630
risk. Yeah, so Yeah, I definitely on this one.

00:44:52.809 --> 00:44:56.050
I was taking notes on all the creative risks

00:44:56.050 --> 00:44:59.610
That's the thing that is interesting to like

00:44:59.610 --> 00:45:05.829
judge a band by but But yeah, I don't know Track

00:45:05.829 --> 00:45:08.849
seven is take my lead. What do you think about

00:45:08.849 --> 00:45:12.619
that one? I like the the change of sound with

00:45:12.619 --> 00:45:15.920
this one. I like that they're taking that risk

00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.320
and just giving a little bit of a different spin.

00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:24.320
I think the lyrics on this record have stood

00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.980
out, but for this one, I especially love the,

00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:32.460
why do the best of us feel all the shame while

00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:35.199
the worst of us don't feel a thing? Sometimes

00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:40.309
I don't feel anything. Like I... I think this

00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:42.289
just came at a point in my life where so much

00:45:42.289 --> 00:45:46.170
of Christian music was like, it's almost like

00:45:46.170 --> 00:45:48.969
a wink -wink, like, oh man, I only prayed for

00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:51.610
five minutes today, I'll do better like next

00:45:51.610 --> 00:45:56.610
time. And stuff like this was just like, oh,

00:45:56.670 --> 00:45:59.090
there's a middle ground where you can be at a

00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:01.469
healthy place where you're not just saying like,

00:46:01.530 --> 00:46:04.329
I'm horrible, I can't fix anything, but also

00:46:04.329 --> 00:46:09.619
there's this place of, yeah, like I... I'm not

00:46:09.619 --> 00:46:11.659
doing anything. I'm yelling at these people for

00:46:11.659 --> 00:46:14.199
not helping the poor, but what am I doing to

00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.880
help the poor or whatever? Yeah, that's good.

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.840
I agree with you. I like the theme here, the

00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.900
lyrics. I think we're super strong. Just the

00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:31.000
idea of being a wanderer through this life. It's

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.440
also really synthy, which I love. I love synthesizers

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.420
and I think that there's a great use of that

00:46:37.420 --> 00:46:41.699
here It does really interesting things like later

00:46:41.699 --> 00:46:44.699
on in the song There's like instrumental section

00:46:44.699 --> 00:46:46.780
and these horns come in which I thought was kind

00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:51.840
of fascinating I think they're just like some

00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.239
creative elements that didn't work as well for

00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:59.639
me things like the horns and stuff that but but

00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:04.360
overall like I I liked What the song was doing

00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.179
and where it was going and with you, I think

00:47:06.179 --> 00:47:08.420
especially the the lyrics I thought were really

00:47:08.420 --> 00:47:13.559
strong here. So Next we have wings fear of heights

00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.619
were your thoughts So this song kind of comes

00:47:16.619 --> 00:47:19.800
out of the gates like blazing like full -on just

00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:26.780
like yeah but And then again this there's this

00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:29.380
really unique like lead guitar thing that sounds

00:47:29.380 --> 00:47:33.199
like only a lead guitar part that a band in Kansas

00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.179
would play on the song. And you have to respect

00:47:36.179 --> 00:47:39.860
that a lot. The fact that somebody's creating

00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:43.500
something that's unique because, man, how many

00:47:43.500 --> 00:47:46.579
bands are playing these lead guitar lines? And

00:47:46.579 --> 00:47:48.619
I never listened to a band and I'm like, oh,

00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.619
that guitar work is really unique. It's just

00:47:51.619 --> 00:47:54.539
not something that hits my ears ever. But it

00:47:54.539 --> 00:47:59.260
does with them. And so I I have to give a lot

00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:03.340
of respect to that For sure, and I like the piano

00:48:03.340 --> 00:48:06.360
that's going I just feel like this song hits

00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.219
like full -on blazing and then it never like

00:48:09.219 --> 00:48:13.199
goes Yeah Anywhere from there like it it just

00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.300
kind of I don't know. I wanted to do something

00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:19.179
Mm -hmm different, especially with who they are

00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:22.519
as a band and their yeah creativity and I just

00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.099
felt like it always Which just kind of it started

00:48:25.099 --> 00:48:27.340
and ended in the same place. Does that make sense?

00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.760
Yeah. Yeah, I I think for me it almost is like

00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.579
It started at this higher place, but then turned

00:48:34.579 --> 00:48:37.619
into just kind of like a regular band in kansas

00:48:37.619 --> 00:48:42.440
song so like I I appreciated that um There was

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.840
like a a change to like keep it fresh. Um, but

00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.159
there wasn't like a giant like like it almost

00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.380
feels like with this one there's those like chance

00:48:54.380 --> 00:48:56.619
there's all these like little chances but there's

00:48:56.619 --> 00:49:00.519
not this like like breaking out right um type

00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.360
thing and um i feel like this one almost like

00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.219
i mean it's been a while since i've listened

00:49:07.219 --> 00:49:10.199
to but i feel like it almost stands on its own

00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.340
as its own thing because like i either they're

00:49:14.340 --> 00:49:16.019
indie stuff before goatee i've only listened

00:49:16.019 --> 00:49:19.099
to like a little bit maybe one time through but

00:49:19.099 --> 00:49:21.590
um we're all going somewhere it's just kind of

00:49:21.590 --> 00:49:25.550
like I think you described it was like gritty

00:49:25.550 --> 00:49:29.989
or like this more indie thing then you have this

00:49:29.989 --> 00:49:33.630
then they move on to like their last goatee thing

00:49:33.630 --> 00:49:36.929
which was very much a poppy how do we get radio

00:49:36.929 --> 00:49:40.630
hits like type of feel so I feel like this one

00:49:40.630 --> 00:49:44.530
was this like almost mixture and it's been a

00:49:44.530 --> 00:49:48.599
while since I've listened to like um Jeremy spring

00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:50.900
like interview about this so like I'm trying

00:49:50.900 --> 00:49:54.960
to remember like if this was like all of their

00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.559
baby or if there was like Goatee stepping in

00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.179
and saying we need this or that from it because

00:50:02.179 --> 00:50:05.099
I want to say this was what they made what they

00:50:05.099 --> 00:50:08.360
wanted to make on this one, but Yeah, like I

00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.340
could be wrong on that Yeah, we'll just pause

00:50:11.340 --> 00:50:15.360
this and I'll go listen to it for two hours I

00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.590
do think this is This song is like. For all the

00:50:20.590 --> 00:50:22.630
creativity on the record, this one feels most

00:50:22.630 --> 00:50:25.530
like just like a standard song. And so for that

00:50:25.530 --> 00:50:28.570
reason, it doesn't like really stand out to me

00:50:28.570 --> 00:50:34.710
as much, but yeah. Track number nine is learn.

00:50:35.690 --> 00:50:39.369
Tell me about learn. Yeah, I like the bass and

00:50:39.369 --> 00:50:40.949
this was the track I was telling you earlier

00:50:40.949 --> 00:50:44.119
about that. I couldn't figure out who the. Like

00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.559
other vocalist was I don't know if it's a member

00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:54.639
of the band or Who it was but Yeah, I like the

00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.460
track though, sorry as I said that I was like

00:50:56.460 --> 00:50:59.199
I'm gonna look it up so I'm Let me pass it to

00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.179
you before I start typing and yeah. Yeah. I like

00:51:02.179 --> 00:51:05.880
once it gets going I'm in it's one of those instances

00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.900
where like the opening guitar is kind of like

00:51:08.900 --> 00:51:14.739
weird And it felt It's one of those songs where

00:51:14.739 --> 00:51:17.619
it feels like they're like They felt the pressure

00:51:17.619 --> 00:51:21.679
to try and do the creative weird thing and like

00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.480
that guitar line like it's It's like pretty standard

00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.579
and then at the end it like takes this weird

00:51:27.579 --> 00:51:29.739
turn and every time I heard it It just kind of

00:51:29.739 --> 00:51:35.579
like unsettled me a little bit and so I don't

00:51:35.579 --> 00:51:40.940
know But I liked together kind of where it was

00:51:40.940 --> 00:51:44.139
going And I was trying to figure out this like

00:51:44.139 --> 00:51:47.000
is this a song about like discipleship? like

00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.940
which I just thought was kind of an interesting

00:51:48.940 --> 00:51:51.519
thing for them to be talking about but like As

00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.260
I read through the lyrics and was thinking about

00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:56.280
them like that's the idea that that came to my

00:51:56.280 --> 00:52:00.280
head at least Maybe not what the thing that they

00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.780
were they were thinking but But but yeah, once

00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:08.739
it kind of got into its groove I I was into it

00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.800
Yeah, I'm so I'm looking this up now and it goes

00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.880
back to what we were talking about earlier is

00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:18.699
that chat GPT does not understand Christian music

00:52:18.699 --> 00:52:22.699
because I typed in the like credits for the album

00:52:22.699 --> 00:52:26.739
and it came up as artist abandoned Kansas label

00:52:26.739 --> 00:52:30.460
tooth and nail records release year 2002 in the

00:52:30.460 --> 00:52:32.980
band members Mike Nelson lead vocals. I don't

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:37.840
know any of these people That's funny. Yeah,

00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:41.139
I And I think part of that is is what we said

00:52:41.139 --> 00:52:43.079
earlier. There's just not a lot of information

00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.860
about this record out there The same was produced

00:52:45.860 --> 00:52:48.420
by Mark Lee Townsend. It was I didn't didn't

00:52:48.420 --> 00:52:51.519
realize that was like as any good goatee album

00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.679
is It's gonna be produced by Mark Lee Townsend

00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.760
so Um, yeah, do you have anything else to add

00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:02.019
on that one? Uh, no, I think I think i'm good

00:53:02.019 --> 00:53:04.230
on that one All right. Well, let's talk about

00:53:04.230 --> 00:53:07.530
track 10 last track on the record give and take

00:53:07.530 --> 00:53:12.329
tell me about it I think that it was such a nice

00:53:12.329 --> 00:53:17.150
surprise to see stephanie smith or skipper appear

00:53:17.150 --> 00:53:22.590
on there I feel like that was like a Really big

00:53:22.590 --> 00:53:26.550
highlight to be like, oh, she's here I like ending

00:53:26.550 --> 00:53:29.429
on this type of song too. I feel like it wraps

00:53:29.429 --> 00:53:34.619
up the album in a really nice way and I feel

00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:37.239
like when you're dealing with a band like this

00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.920
or album like this like that's really important

00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.619
to end with something that like you don't want

00:53:44.619 --> 00:53:46.940
to leave them being like that's that's it or

00:53:46.940 --> 00:53:50.340
what's going to go on so I feel like it was kind

00:53:50.340 --> 00:53:53.239
of just nice like I think it wrapped it up in

00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.719
a nice little bow at the end yeah This doesn't

00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.659
really have anything to do with the song but

00:53:58.659 --> 00:54:00.860
I wrote down in my notes at the beginning of

00:54:00.860 --> 00:54:02.599
this I said there should have been an acoustic

00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.280
song on this record But I think it's just what

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.500
I was thinking like it feels like a missed opportunity

00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:12.440
because I feel like they could do some like really

00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:16.320
interesting creative things With some acoustic

00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.400
work as like a change of pace. Yeah, and I just

00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.900
kind of felt myself like wanting that on this

00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.820
Anyways, no, I thought the song was really cool.

00:54:27.699 --> 00:54:29.420
Um, it's, you know, it starts out as like the

00:54:29.420 --> 00:54:31.920
chillest song on the record. Um, but I thought

00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.380
the strings were pretty fascinating and kind

00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:38.599
of cool. The lyrics I just love like, and please.

00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:41.920
Like if you're going to end an album, end an

00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.559
album with like a lyric that you repeat over

00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.920
and over again, that's like really well written.

00:54:47.219 --> 00:54:50.000
And so the idea of, am I more than the sum of

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.590
the things that I have or haven't done? Is I

00:54:54.590 --> 00:54:58.550
think such a great like almost? Anthematic like

00:54:58.550 --> 00:55:01.250
theme at the end and then the idea of can you

00:55:01.250 --> 00:55:06.489
restore what's been taken? At the end I I thought

00:55:06.489 --> 00:55:09.530
the lyrics were really good on this and I like

00:55:09.530 --> 00:55:12.400
you like I thought it was a really good rap um

00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.260
to the whole record and so this one this one

00:55:15.260 --> 00:55:17.960
was like a really positive like surprise to me

00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.460
kind of at the end because I don't know how often

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:26.900
I'd listened to him before yeah so well any kind

00:55:26.900 --> 00:55:29.480
of closing thoughts that you have on the album

00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:33.280
and I can't wait to hear where your rating sits

00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:37.719
for this one yeah I I think um like I said you

00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.539
know when I first sent this to you I was like

00:55:39.539 --> 00:55:42.940
man I love this album and then listening to it

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:45.340
i was like i actually i feel like i'm going into

00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:51.340
it with a i know 20 of the songs on here um if

00:55:51.340 --> 00:55:57.059
that and um and so yeah i um i was really happy

00:55:57.059 --> 00:55:59.880
because i think that one of the reviews i had

00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:02.840
read was that they were like this is an album

00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.360
that can quickly become a okay we've already

00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:10.500
been here um So I didn't find myself wanting

00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:14.719
the album to end or whatever. And I feel like

00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.780
it was cool to have Tim and Stephanie appear.

00:56:19.059 --> 00:56:24.760
I feel like that's cool whenever you have the

00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.360
people on the same record label appearing in

00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.019
each other's stuff. And I feel like for me, that

00:56:30.019 --> 00:56:33.420
was kind of this nostalgia of, man, what a time

00:56:33.420 --> 00:56:38.679
in music. I think for me, You know, like I said

00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.000
like 2010 to I don't know 2013 or whatever that's

00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.760
when I was just finding all of these New artists

00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.739
and being like this is out here or this is help

00:56:49.739 --> 00:56:52.440
shaping like who I'm gonna become now, you know

00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:57.480
or whatever So yeah, I I really enjoyed this

00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:02.820
I think for me I landed at a four for this album

00:57:02.820 --> 00:57:07.900
or yeah for this album I felt like it wasn't

00:57:07.900 --> 00:57:11.559
my favorite abandoned Kansas release. I feel

00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.980
like it's saying something when it's like, I

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:16.239
feel like it's like a Switchfoot thing. For you,

00:57:16.300 --> 00:57:19.099
if you were to say this is my four star Switchfoot

00:57:19.099 --> 00:57:24.360
album, but it's not really their best one. I

00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.039
felt like they put out something that was special

00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:32.460
and I think that I applaud the chances that were

00:57:32.460 --> 00:57:35.369
being taken on here. Yeah, I feel like a four

00:57:35.369 --> 00:57:38.809
is a pretty strong rating for not your favorite

00:57:38.809 --> 00:57:42.769
Abandoned Kansas album But maybe you love Abandoned

00:57:42.769 --> 00:57:44.829
Kansas more than I thought I think it's just

00:57:44.829 --> 00:57:47.429
you mix and you like I said you add in a little

00:57:47.429 --> 00:57:50.969
bit of Tim Skipper Some Stephanie you have I

00:57:50.969 --> 00:57:53.590
I don't know what the secret recipe is for that

00:57:53.590 --> 00:57:57.230
first verse of Golden State But I feel like that

00:57:57.230 --> 00:58:00.630
just that track was so good at the beginning

00:58:00.630 --> 00:58:04.269
that there's at least like a like point four

00:58:04.269 --> 00:58:07.769
like that was added to the uh thing just for

00:58:07.769 --> 00:58:10.610
those like that two lines from that or whatever

00:58:10.610 --> 00:58:14.809
um yeah i i think that depending on the day i

00:58:14.809 --> 00:58:17.570
i could see it being a 3 .5 but i think that

00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:22.170
i think a four um is pretty pretty good for it

00:58:22.170 --> 00:58:26.510
yeah yeah i yeah so i think for me again just

00:58:26.510 --> 00:58:29.150
some highlights for me are definitely the lyrics

00:58:29.150 --> 00:58:33.329
um I think the writing on this is really good

00:58:33.329 --> 00:58:38.289
and I have so much respect for just the creativity

00:58:38.289 --> 00:58:41.309
that they put into making an album like this

00:58:41.309 --> 00:58:44.889
because most bands are just gonna do a straightforward

00:58:44.889 --> 00:58:49.969
record with songs like this but they always take

00:58:49.969 --> 00:58:53.090
the opportunity to do something weird with it

00:58:53.090 --> 00:58:57.809
and And so I think that's both like a strong

00:58:57.809 --> 00:59:00.869
point but also a weak point for me on this one

00:59:00.869 --> 00:59:04.610
because Where it works, I absolutely love it.

00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:07.130
Yeah, but where it doesn't work for me as much

00:59:07.130 --> 00:59:10.449
like I feel like hurts hurt some of the songs

00:59:10.449 --> 00:59:15.829
and so So I'm gonna go with a 3 .2, which is

00:59:15.829 --> 00:59:18.050
my kind of like averaged out right? Yeah, and

00:59:18.050 --> 00:59:19.929
there were some songs on here like heaven come

00:59:19.929 --> 00:59:23.570
my way and where else can we go? that were like

00:59:23.570 --> 00:59:27.349
4 .5 songs for me like just great great great

00:59:27.349 --> 00:59:29.730
songs but there were some weak some weak spots

00:59:29.730 --> 00:59:31.710
for me too that were just kind of a struggle

00:59:31.710 --> 00:59:35.789
but um overall i think i think it's a really

00:59:35.789 --> 00:59:40.570
good record and um i'm looking forward to one

00:59:40.570 --> 00:59:43.550
day covering we're all going somewhere talking

00:59:43.550 --> 00:59:46.400
about that Um, because that's one that one that

00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.539
I really love from them So I think one of my

00:59:48.539 --> 00:59:51.000
takeaways from this is just the what if this

00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.760
would have had an acoustic And what's funny is

00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.000
when you said that I think that's when I started

00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.760
thinking Man, maybe this is a 3 .5 because that's

00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:03.119
true. There's not an acoustic. Um Do you remember

01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.219
because like so for me, I listened to it on spotify

01:00:06.219 --> 01:00:08.619
Do you remember what that bonus track sounded

01:00:08.619 --> 01:00:12.079
like on amazon? I don't I probably have it in

01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:16.019
my Like, I just listened to it off Apple Music,

01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:20.099
but I probably have it in like my iTunes library.

01:00:20.980 --> 01:00:29.760
If I looked in my library instead of like going

01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:33.860
straight to the Apple Music version of it. Yeah,

01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.039
that just makes me like, I wonder if that track

01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.940
like... improves or takes away. I do have it.

01:00:42.019 --> 01:00:43.880
It's called Don't Forget Where You Came From.

01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.400
And so we'll have to give it a listen after we

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.440
get finished recording and see what we think.

01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.880
Maybe it's the acoustic song that we were waiting

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:56.579
for. What a game changer. I might have to revise

01:00:56.579 --> 01:00:59.539
my rating on the next episode of Hey Are You

01:00:59.539 --> 01:01:03.400
Listening for this one. Well, that's cool. Well,

01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.420
Brandon, let's talk about the lyric of the week.

01:01:19.469 --> 01:01:24.789
All right, our lyric of the week comes from their

01:01:24.789 --> 01:01:30.289
track, Give and Take, and it is, Can you restore

01:01:30.289 --> 01:01:32.309
what's been taken? Can you restore what's been

01:01:32.309 --> 01:01:35.130
given away? I'd like a little of your blood,

01:01:35.210 --> 01:01:37.869
but that's all. Just enough forgiveness to keep

01:01:37.869 --> 01:01:44.250
on being careless. That's heavy. Yeah, a lot

01:01:44.250 --> 01:01:48.199
to think about there. Really interesting. That's

01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.659
cool. Well, this has been fun to work through

01:01:50.659 --> 01:01:53.260
and talk through it's cool for me to revisit

01:01:53.260 --> 01:01:56.940
an album That's not like a 30 year old record

01:01:56.940 --> 01:02:01.019
But one that was more recent even though it's

01:02:01.019 --> 01:02:04.380
it's got some age on it at this point And kind

01:02:04.380 --> 01:02:07.179
of dig into it. So I appreciate being able to

01:02:07.179 --> 01:02:10.340
hear from you I think that it's the 15th so it

01:02:10.340 --> 01:02:13.079
can legally drive with a parent or guardian now.

01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:16.840
There you go. Congratulations to the stars a

01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:19.420
lot of the albums we're reviewing can buy a house

01:02:19.420 --> 01:02:21.940
or right we're not quite there yet but we'll

01:02:21.940 --> 01:02:25.880
get there that's cool well hey thanks you the

01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.460
listener as well for joining us we're so grateful

01:02:28.460 --> 01:02:33.599
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