WEBVTT 00:00:02.010 --> 00:00:33.750 Are you listening Hey, are you listening? This 00:00:33.750 --> 00:00:36.329 is a podcast exploring the past, present, and 00:00:36.329 --> 00:00:39.429 future of Christian music. My name is Joel and 00:00:39.429 --> 00:00:42.270 I'm here with my good friend Brandon. And we 00:00:42.270 --> 00:00:45.070 connected over mutual love of some particular 00:00:45.070 --> 00:00:47.509 artists, but have pretty different tastes when 00:00:47.509 --> 00:00:50.250 it comes to things. And so we get to experience 00:00:50.250 --> 00:00:52.789 some new stuff from each other while inviting 00:00:52.789 --> 00:00:56.210 some friends along for the ride with us. And 00:00:56.210 --> 00:00:58.969 we actually have a guest with us today. And this 00:00:58.969 --> 00:01:02.600 one is pretty special for me. Today, we are honored 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:06.599 to have with us my big sister, Lisa. Lisa, we're 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:09.140 excited to have you with us today. I'm excited 00:01:09.140 --> 00:01:11.379 to be here. Yeah, we're so excited that you're 00:01:11.379 --> 00:01:15.840 here. This will be fun. Just sneak peek. So today 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.180 we're going to be talking about another Christmas. 00:01:20.510 --> 00:01:23.590 Album home for Christmas by Amy Grant and I was 00:01:23.590 --> 00:01:25.670 trying to think through who would be a good person 00:01:25.670 --> 00:01:28.250 to have on to talk about Amy Grant Christmas 00:01:28.250 --> 00:01:30.730 music and you're the first person that popped 00:01:30.730 --> 00:01:34.989 in my head so I'm excited excited to kind of 00:01:34.989 --> 00:01:39.150 dig into this today And it's Christmas season. 00:01:39.189 --> 00:01:42.790 How have you guys? Started or been celebrating 00:01:42.790 --> 00:01:44.829 Christmas. Like what are you doing to enjoy the 00:01:44.829 --> 00:01:50.829 season so far? I think Go ahead. No, you go ahead. 00:01:51.950 --> 00:01:57.409 OK, well, you know, I I work at a worship ministry 00:01:57.409 --> 00:02:02.870 at a church and so I'm actually in charge of 00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:06.109 decorating the church for Christmas. So we had 00:02:06.109 --> 00:02:13.729 that last Sunday. It's a very hands on. I have 00:02:13.729 --> 00:02:17.129 many teams who are doing different things, project. 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:21.909 We got it done in four hours, which is phenomenal. 00:02:22.389 --> 00:02:25.990 That's amazing. So I've had that and somehow 00:02:25.990 --> 00:02:28.669 in the midst of that, I actually did get my house 00:02:28.669 --> 00:02:32.370 done as well. So that's awesome. That's about 00:02:32.370 --> 00:02:36.770 all I've had time to do. I feel like decorating, 00:02:36.810 --> 00:02:38.669 if you're not careful, it can become something 00:02:38.669 --> 00:02:42.080 where you're like. Christmas Eve still putting 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:44.520 up stuff like just how lights and that kind of 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:49.039 suddenly I know for us we Me and my wife Jordan. 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.659 We really enjoy there's a book we bought years 00:02:51.659 --> 00:02:54.680 ago and it's like a yearly journal so you go 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.860 through like December 1st to the 25th and It's 00:02:57.860 --> 00:02:59.800 just every day. It'll ask like, you know, if 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.539 you can invite someone to for Christmas this 00:03:02.539 --> 00:03:05.240 year Who would it be or like what are three things 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.860 that you're thankful for this year? And so it's 00:03:07.860 --> 00:03:11.780 pretty cool that you get to Slow down and take 00:03:11.780 --> 00:03:14.280 that little bit of time to kind of like enjoy 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.639 like Christmas for that day Yeah, and also just 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.659 going back and seeing how There's things that 00:03:21.659 --> 00:03:23.979 like we were praying for and then you see oh 00:03:23.979 --> 00:03:27.360 that was answered or you just see how some some 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.199 answers change and all so I feel like it's just 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.580 a Like, it's just the little way to really enjoy 00:03:34.580 --> 00:03:37.060 and take that little bit of time to enjoy Christmas 00:03:37.060 --> 00:03:40.319 each day. That's awesome. Well, I'll admit, we 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.759 were traveling for Thanksgiving, and so we haven't 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.620 really, aside from starting to listen to Christmas 00:03:46.620 --> 00:03:51.240 music, really done much yet. I'm excited to kind 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.219 of get the ball rolling and decorate and do all 00:03:54.219 --> 00:03:57.340 the things because I love, I love Christmas. 00:03:57.340 --> 00:03:58.800 And so I love that we get to talk about what 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.879 we're talking about today. But before we get 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.139 into that, let's talk for a second about what's 00:04:05.139 --> 00:04:11.280 in the news. So I don't know if you guys have 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.340 heard this. In the news, there is a pretty controversial 00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:17.939 topic happening in the world of Christian music. 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.579 Um, there's an artist that is at the top of the 00:04:21.579 --> 00:04:25.339 charts in the CCM world, um, by the name of Solomon 00:04:25.339 --> 00:04:30.860 Ray. Um, but Solomon Ray is an AI artist. Um, 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:35.259 and so, um, this is music that's not, I don't 00:04:35.259 --> 00:04:38.939 know all the details of it, but this is music 00:04:38.939 --> 00:04:42.480 that's not being made by a real person. Um, at 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.959 least to some degree. that is AI produced. And 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.240 so we knew this was coming, right? It's definitely 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:53.600 hitting in the general market, but for it to 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.060 begin to show up in the Christian market is kind 00:04:58.060 --> 00:05:01.660 of an interesting thing. So how does that news 00:05:01.660 --> 00:05:03.680 hit you guys? Like, what are your thoughts on 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:10.360 that? I feel like I'm in an episode of Star Trek 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:14.259 The Next Generation where we're exploring is 00:05:14.259 --> 00:05:24.339 data a real entity or not? Right. I have an issue 00:05:24.339 --> 00:05:31.259 with a Christian artist being AI because AI cannot 00:05:31.259 --> 00:05:40.959 be saved. Right. So where is the heart in that 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:52.019 music coming from? Yeah, it's. Yeah, that's where 00:05:52.019 --> 00:05:56.860 I am. Yeah, it's it just doesn't really seem 00:05:56.860 --> 00:06:00.160 real to me. It's definitely a complex topic. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:05.100 And I feel like. I feel like there's part of 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:07.120 it as we begin to engage in some of these new 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:13.680 technologies where I have to consider the fact 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.899 of I'm a lot older than I used to be. And so 00:06:16.899 --> 00:06:18.800 everything hits me a little different than it 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:25.779 would if I was younger. And then when the internet 00:06:25.779 --> 00:06:27.839 appeared, people were frightened and afraid of 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:32.980 it in a lot of ways. But it does seem just interesting. 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.680 to take what's happening and being able to experience 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:41.980 it at some level in the general marketplace, 00:06:42.060 --> 00:06:47.399 but then apply that to songs that explore faith 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:53.040 and what happens in our human nature and our 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:59.899 hearts, but from not a real person, not a real 00:06:59.899 --> 00:07:03.980 heart that's been transformed. And to be honest 00:07:03.980 --> 00:07:07.100 like Brandon you and I both like messed around 00:07:07.100 --> 00:07:12.699 with with this AI music thing And so in fact 00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:16.740 our theme song for our podcast is an AI generated 00:07:16.740 --> 00:07:20.339 theme song And so we're not making any money 00:07:20.339 --> 00:07:23.139 off of it or anything like that which is a whole 00:07:23.139 --> 00:07:26.279 other like part of all of this whole thing is 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:31.540 Are we just generating this art and in? to make 00:07:31.540 --> 00:07:36.839 money or to gain whatever. And so it really brings 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.759 to mind some of these ethical questions. And 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:44.100 I want to be careful to not rush to opinions. 00:07:44.579 --> 00:07:47.420 And so I don't know if I'm ready, but I do have, 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.439 I feel like a lot of caution in my heart over 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.040 some of this stuff. And so I don't know, what 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:56.680 do you think? So we went to a conference, I think 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.180 it was two years ago. and a couple of the breakout 00:08:00.180 --> 00:08:02.540 sessions were about AI. And it was really cool 00:08:02.540 --> 00:08:04.680 because there was one place that they talked 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:08.560 about how AI is your friend. Like it can't be 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.839 the star of the show, it can't replace people. 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:16.220 So like for us, we use this AI tool each week 00:08:16.220 --> 00:08:19.360 with each sermon in our church, we feed the sermon 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.230 through And in five minutes, it gives us a full 00:08:22.230 --> 00:08:24.769 transcript. It gives us all the verses that are 00:08:24.769 --> 00:08:27.290 used. It gives us 20 clips we can use on social 00:08:27.290 --> 00:08:31.009 media and all that. So it's like, it's so helpful 00:08:31.009 --> 00:08:34.210 on that end, because it takes what would take, 00:08:34.210 --> 00:08:37.690 you know, 12 hours maybe to do and does it in 00:08:37.690 --> 00:08:40.629 a matter of minutes. But at the same time, at 00:08:40.629 --> 00:08:42.789 that same conference, there was a place that 00:08:42.789 --> 00:08:45.409 was selling like AI cards. So they were like, 00:08:45.409 --> 00:08:47.049 yeah, whenever you get a new visitor, you could 00:08:47.049 --> 00:08:50.149 have us automatically just send a card. And I 00:08:50.149 --> 00:08:53.250 remember the time like one of our pastors will 00:08:53.250 --> 00:08:56.509 being like, you know, how would you feel if you 00:08:56.509 --> 00:08:58.929 did something and you received a card but you 00:08:58.929 --> 00:09:00.730 found out that your pastor didn't take the time 00:09:00.730 --> 00:09:02.889 to write that? It was more of just they got our 00:09:02.889 --> 00:09:06.070 computer to say, here's a generic thank you for 00:09:06.070 --> 00:09:11.190 cleaning this off. And I think that there's a 00:09:11.190 --> 00:09:13.990 place for it because, I mean, there's a lot of 00:09:13.990 --> 00:09:15.830 times where now if I'm trying to bounce ideas 00:09:15.830 --> 00:09:18.950 off of something, I'll say, hey, read the script 00:09:18.950 --> 00:09:21.419 and tell me like ideas where I could change this 00:09:21.419 --> 00:09:24.000 or something, or give me like maybe ideas for 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.639 like this topic. But I think that there's a difference 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:31.539 in that versus when it's doing all the work. 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:34.720 So I think that it's like in music in general, 00:09:34.779 --> 00:09:37.220 there's questions. And then you get deeper when 00:09:37.220 --> 00:09:39.200 you're looking at you're in like the world of 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.080 Christian music, you're producing it. But then 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.220 also like, where's that money going to? And I 00:09:45.220 --> 00:09:48.100 think that you know there's so many artists out 00:09:48.100 --> 00:09:51.659 there that you know like for someone like us 00:09:51.659 --> 00:09:55.600 we this podcast we're not making like money off 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.639 of it so we really can't go out and pay an artist 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.860 you know the the money they deserve to write 00:10:00.860 --> 00:10:04.059 a theme song yeah but if we're like a record 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:07.220 label then no we have the money to go out and 00:10:07.220 --> 00:10:12.460 pay an artist to produce music for us um so I 00:10:12.460 --> 00:10:16.000 don't know. I feel like there's a place for AI, 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.539 but I think that, to echo what y 'all have said, 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:23.519 there's this caution when all of a sudden it's 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:28.559 writing worship songs for us. As someone who 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.919 works at a church and uses AI, I'll be the first 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.940 to say ChatGBT is very confused by the idea of 00:10:33.940 --> 00:10:37.539 Jesus and God sometimes, because the stuff that 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:41.080 it generates is like... No, that doesn't really 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.860 match. And so it's like trying to explain to 00:10:43.860 --> 00:10:46.700 a computer, like I'm trying to share the gospel 00:10:46.700 --> 00:10:49.299 to a computer, which I feel like 100 years ago 00:10:49.299 --> 00:10:52.500 was never something the church probably would 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:53.980 have been burned if someone was like, why is 00:10:53.980 --> 00:10:57.519 he talking to this device? Brandon, I hate to 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.120 tell you, but that computer can't be saved. You're 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.360 wasting your time. I feel like 10, 20 years from 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.220 now, that's going to be like these sermons out 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:09.750 there where it's like... These will be the debates 00:11:09.750 --> 00:11:12.649 we're having then is have the computers reached 00:11:12.649 --> 00:11:15.090 consciousness. It'll be like, you know, whenever 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:17.710 you see now where like a celebrity gets saved, 00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:21.250 it'll be that both AI or you'll see like on Facebook 00:11:21.250 --> 00:11:23.909 where it's like chat GBT comes out, like it's 00:11:23.909 --> 00:11:30.570 a super complicated stuff. And so obviously, 00:11:30.570 --> 00:11:35.309 um, um, I think AI is becoming something that 00:11:35.309 --> 00:11:39.750 the average American is using. on a pretty regular 00:11:39.750 --> 00:11:43.590 basis. I mean, if you do a Google search, basically 00:11:43.590 --> 00:11:48.629 you're using AI now. Um, this is the world that 00:11:48.629 --> 00:11:51.809 we live in. Um, but I think with any technology, 00:11:52.029 --> 00:11:54.629 um, we have to be careful to know its limits. 00:11:54.850 --> 00:11:56.769 And so it'll be interesting to kind of figure 00:11:56.769 --> 00:12:00.269 out what those are as, as time goes on. So, um, 00:12:00.389 --> 00:12:02.429 I'm sure that this is a conversation that we'll 00:12:02.429 --> 00:12:04.629 probably keep having because this isn't the first 00:12:04.629 --> 00:12:06.509 time this is going to, or the last time this 00:12:06.509 --> 00:12:09.450 is going to happen. And so, um, yeah, it'll be 00:12:09.450 --> 00:12:11.929 interesting to figure out how all that stuff 00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:14.610 shakes out. All right, so I have a game for you 00:12:14.610 --> 00:12:16.509 guys today, and it's one that I've been looking 00:12:16.509 --> 00:12:19.129 forward to playing since before we ever even 00:12:19.129 --> 00:12:22.870 launched this podcast. And we're going to play 00:12:22.870 --> 00:12:27.210 a game of CCM 20 questions. And so the way that 00:12:27.210 --> 00:12:32.149 this works is I have an album released by an 00:12:32.149 --> 00:12:38.750 artist in my mind and you get to ask me yes or 00:12:38.750 --> 00:12:42.940 no questions. 20 of them in order to find out 00:12:42.940 --> 00:12:47.659 who this artist is and so I Would encourage you 00:12:47.659 --> 00:12:51.259 you can talk back and forth with each other As 00:12:51.259 --> 00:12:54.480 we go through this But don't make a guess until 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.639 you're pretty sure that you know who or what 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:02.460 this album is Because once you make your guess 00:13:02.460 --> 00:13:07.600 like it's over And so ask questions around it 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:11.440 To get to get to that point, but any yes or no 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.019 question that you can think of You can ask and 00:13:15.019 --> 00:13:18.299 I will give you the answer I might use my computer 00:13:18.299 --> 00:13:20.259 in case you ask me some questions that I don't 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:25.700 know the answer to along the way, so All right 00:13:25.700 --> 00:13:28.440 You guys ready? Mm -hmm. All right. Let's do 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:33.120 this ask away Do you want to take the first question 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:42.019 Lisa? Oh Is this an individual artist or is that 00:13:42.019 --> 00:13:45.919 known as an individual or is it a band? All right, 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.179 so I'll answer the first one because that's a 00:13:48.179 --> 00:13:50.559 yes or no. Is this an individual artist? Got 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:55.740 you. Yeah. No. That's a good question. Was it 00:13:55.740 --> 00:14:09.500 released in the 90s? Yes, I'm pretty sure. Do 00:14:09.500 --> 00:14:19.019 you have one now? Did they have a mainstream 00:14:19.019 --> 00:14:31.539 following? Good question, yes. Was it released 00:14:31.539 --> 00:14:40.769 on Forefront Records? Feel like in the 90s if 00:14:40.769 --> 00:14:42.750 if you could get the record label you get to 00:14:42.750 --> 00:14:45.750 narrow it down to later. It's a great way to 00:14:45.750 --> 00:14:51.570 To to work through that Yeah, I should have just 00:14:51.570 --> 00:14:54.309 had this page pulled up hang on just a second 00:14:54.309 --> 00:14:58.149 I'm really glad that like Lisa's here because 00:14:58.149 --> 00:15:00.350 if she wasn't here my questions would range from 00:15:00.350 --> 00:15:03.409 these very deep light Did they play in an arena 00:15:03.409 --> 00:15:08.190 of 20 ,000 or be is there red on the cover? No, 00:15:08.190 --> 00:15:18.970 this was not released on Forefront. Okay. All 00:15:18.970 --> 00:15:24.990 right. Can you think of one, Brandon? Because 00:15:24.990 --> 00:15:31.330 I'm kind of stumped right now. Is there a female 00:15:31.330 --> 00:15:38.820 in the band? No. I'm glad I asked that because 00:15:38.820 --> 00:15:40.539 I was really leaning towards it being like a 00:15:40.539 --> 00:15:47.919 six pence like album So to recap so far is released 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:52.840 in the 90s They did have a following We're not 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:58.799 on forefront No girls in the band And it's a 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:07.679 band or not an individual Were they known for 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.580 any activity that they did outside of music? 00:16:16.019 --> 00:16:27.679 Yes. Do they surf? Are they known for surfing? 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:35.330 They are not known for surfing. Okay. I was going 00:16:35.330 --> 00:16:37.590 down the wrong rabbit hole. At any point in their 00:16:37.590 --> 00:16:42.149 lives have they touched water? Let me calm them 00:16:42.149 --> 00:16:52.929 up really quick. Are they still making, are they 00:16:52.929 --> 00:17:14.680 actively making music now? Will say that they're 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.400 They're not as active as they used to be but 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.900 I don't know that they're like broken up if that 00:17:20.900 --> 00:17:28.359 makes sense Is there an animal on the album cover 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:45.380 If you need me more specific I can ask you the 00:17:45.380 --> 00:17:58.480 no, okay. No, I was just making sure Is the name 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:03.819 of the band one word no, that's ten questions 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.619 Have there been any scandals with this band? 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:26.299 No Okay Is it is the name of the band three words 00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:35.680 Yes Okay And I'll just say remember once you 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.579 hone in on the artist then you get a hone in 00:18:37.579 --> 00:18:41.960 on the album yeah I'm trying to think of artists 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.660 from there, but also what they released then. 00:18:48.299 --> 00:18:52.759 Have we covered this band on our podcast? Yes. 00:18:54.940 --> 00:19:10.359 Okay. I think what the album cover are we allowed 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:25.740 to like look up like the album? Is um I will 00:19:25.740 --> 00:19:31.519 say if you want to um I'll if it's helpful. I'll 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.759 allow you to ask Like ask me who the artist is 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.079 and I can confirm or uh -huh not confirm that 00:19:38.349 --> 00:19:44.329 Is the artist Jars of Clay? Yes, that's 14. Okay, 00:19:44.410 --> 00:19:53.910 yellow's on the right. Do they talk about water 00:19:53.910 --> 00:20:01.369 a lot on this album? Yes, that's 15. I don't 00:20:01.369 --> 00:20:08.470 remember the name of this album though. Is the 00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:13.970 name? Let's see. Let me think. That's the wrong 00:20:13.970 --> 00:20:17.170 question. I know that when I hear the name of 00:20:17.170 --> 00:20:18.809 it, I'm going to be like, why did I not guess 00:20:18.809 --> 00:20:28.730 that? Is the album named after the band? Yes. 00:20:30.109 --> 00:20:34.289 Okay. I feel pretty confident with this now. 00:20:34.490 --> 00:20:36.609 Do you have any more questions before we lock 00:20:36.609 --> 00:20:43.190 this in? Okay. I think we got it. Was it released 00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:48.829 in 1995? Yes, that's 16. Okay, we got it. Is 00:20:48.829 --> 00:20:51.250 the album, Jars of Clay, by Jars of Clay? You 00:20:51.250 --> 00:20:55.849 got it. 16 questions. Good. I'm glad you guys 00:20:55.849 --> 00:20:57.690 got there. I was a little nervous you were going 00:20:57.690 --> 00:21:01.049 to get there in like... five questions so i'm 00:21:01.049 --> 00:21:03.650 glad it took a little longer that's the fear 00:21:03.650 --> 00:21:05.890 i have whenever i play a game is i immediately 00:21:05.890 --> 00:21:08.849 think oh they're gonna know it's this one it'll 00:21:08.849 --> 00:21:10.789 uh it'll be more complicated as we pick like 00:21:10.789 --> 00:21:14.930 a harder one in the future so um that was fun 00:21:14.930 --> 00:21:16.710 i hope you guys enjoyed working through that 00:21:16.710 --> 00:21:19.769 um i need to look up the one that i was thinking 00:21:19.769 --> 00:21:24.329 of i think it might have been real because i 00:21:24.329 --> 00:21:27.779 was thinking if i left the zoo yeah yeah That's 00:21:27.779 --> 00:21:29.460 where I was thinking you were thinking of when 00:21:29.460 --> 00:21:34.619 you asked me about animals Okay, that was 1999 00:21:34.619 --> 00:21:38.019 I was yeah, I did come out in the 90s. Okay, 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.579 awesome All right. Well, let's talk a little 00:21:41.579 --> 00:21:45.559 bit about what we've been listening to Lately 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:47.359 Brandon what about you? What have you been listening 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:51.180 to lately? I've been going back through I've 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:53.359 mentioned them a few times, but this band the 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:59.259 last bison. Mm -hmm. They have um a pretty diverse 00:21:59.259 --> 00:22:03.460 christmas um catalog because they have when they 00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:07.279 were originally just big like family band in 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.640 this this like folky acoustic um and then they 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.920 have one where it's like i always tell people 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.460 like they plug the instruments in so it's more 00:22:15.460 --> 00:22:18.880 of this like maybe poppy alternative type thing 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.579 then last year they released this very um like 00:22:22.579 --> 00:22:26.180 just it's like a guitar and I think maybe like 00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:31.420 a cello maybe, I don't know, of Winter Wonderland. 00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:34.680 So I enjoy listening to them because I feel like 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.980 you get a little bit of everything with their 00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:40.380 Christmas releases. Yeah, that's fun. Lisa, what 00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:46.140 about you? Well, actually, okay, my favorite 00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:50.000 Christmas album of all time is not from a Christian 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:55.769 artist. Ella Fitzgerald's, Ella wishes you a 00:22:55.769 --> 00:23:03.369 swinging Christmas. It's fabulous. I listen to 00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:08.150 it frequently. It's the one Christmas album that 00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:10.470 every single song from it is on my Christmas 00:23:10.470 --> 00:23:13.750 playlist. Yeah, I love that. That's a lot of 00:23:13.750 --> 00:23:19.059 fun. Mine's not Christmas, but The band, Brandon, 00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:20.460 have you listened to them? Some of the Rocky 00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:23.920 Valentine's? Yeah. Yeah. So they put out a single, 00:23:24.460 --> 00:23:26.640 a two song single called Happy Thanksgiving, 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.240 which has nothing to do with Thanksgiving, but, 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:35.200 but it's cool. I was listening to that on my 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.940 trip home from Thanksgiving and surprisingly 00:23:38.940 --> 00:23:43.099 like, very like upfront about their faith, which 00:23:43.099 --> 00:23:44.839 they haven't really done in any of their music 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:49.369 yet. um so it's um but yeah both those songs 00:23:49.369 --> 00:23:51.549 are really great so i've enjoyed listening to 00:23:51.549 --> 00:23:55.569 those um but all right well let's transition 00:23:55.569 --> 00:24:00.809 into talking about this record home for christmas 00:24:05.609 --> 00:24:07.430 All right, so I'll give us a little bio that 00:24:07.430 --> 00:24:09.970 I pulled from online. So, Home for Christmas 00:24:09.970 --> 00:24:13.769 is the 10th studio album by Christian music and 00:24:13.769 --> 00:24:17.349 pop music singer Amy Grant, released on October 00:24:17.349 --> 00:24:22.069 6th, 1992. It is Grant's second holiday album, 00:24:22.349 --> 00:24:27.769 the first being 1983's A Christmas Album. So 00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.369 this is like nine years after her first Christmas 00:24:30.369 --> 00:24:34.759 album. On November 17th, 1997, Home for Christmas 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.720 was certified triple platinum by the Recording 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.839 Industry Association of Americas for shipment 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.000 of three million copies in the U .S. And so that's 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.819 back in 97, three million. Home for Christmas 00:24:46.819 --> 00:24:50.160 is the 18th best selling Christmas album in the 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:55.079 U .S., which is pretty wild. So this is actually 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.519 a pretty big pretty big Christmas record out 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.470 there. So before we start talking about track 00:25:03.470 --> 00:25:07.170 by track we kind of give some of our opening 00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:12.769 thoughts and history with this one a little bit 00:25:12.769 --> 00:25:16.009 and maybe even history with Amy Grant. So Lisa, 00:25:16.009 --> 00:25:20.150 why don't you start us off there? When did you 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:23.750 start listening to Amy Grant and where did some 00:25:23.750 --> 00:25:28.410 of these songs start to come in for you? Okay, 00:25:28.490 --> 00:25:35.599 so Amy Grant's first album released in 77. And 00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:38.220 mom gave me that album for Christmas that year. 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:45.059 And that started my obsession with Amy Grant. 00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:52.519 I related to her because she didn't put on any 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:58.589 pretense. She was human. She made mistakes. She 00:25:58.589 --> 00:26:03.089 was very open about that. I appreciated that 00:26:03.089 --> 00:26:15.710 in her. She's just always been who she is. Like, 00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:20.910 this is who I am. Love me or hate me. I'm putting 00:26:20.910 --> 00:26:27.900 myself out there. She never hid any of her. issues 00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:32.279 that she's had throughout her life. But I grew 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:41.940 up with her. And her 92, or 92, 82 album, I think 00:26:41.940 --> 00:26:48.500 it was, Age to Age, was transforming for me. 00:26:50.240 --> 00:27:02.539 That hit when I was in high school. And just 00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:06.920 was transformative in my Christian walk. Yeah. 00:27:10.259 --> 00:27:13.299 Still remains my favorite Christian album ever. 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.900 Just because of what it meant to me at a time 00:27:17.900 --> 00:27:24.900 in my life where I needed it. Yeah. So I feel 00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:28.730 like Amy and I kind of grew up together. in a 00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:34.329 sense. She's six years older than I am, but you 00:27:34.329 --> 00:27:40.950 know, still. Her, and specifically to this album, 00:27:42.069 --> 00:27:45.869 her first Christmas album was the first time 00:27:45.869 --> 00:27:49.750 a Christian artist had done a Christmas album. 00:27:50.529 --> 00:27:57.720 So it was huge. Yeah. And this particular album, 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:03.019 Home for Christmas, released right after her 00:28:03.019 --> 00:28:09.819 Baby Baby album, when there was all the controversy 00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:18.339 of Amy going secular. I think it was a grounding 00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:24.970 album. Like, hey, I'm still Amy. I haven't gone 00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:35.349 to the dark side. I think there was a lot of 00:28:35.349 --> 00:28:38.049 purpose behind this album and the timing of its 00:28:38.049 --> 00:28:46.349 release. I think it brought her back to the Christian 00:28:46.349 --> 00:28:54.880 fan base that was questioning at that time. Yeah, 00:28:55.059 --> 00:29:00.180 yeah, that is interesting I Love I love what 00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:03.460 you said just about her music and obviously I 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.799 grew up a few years later than you so I wasn't 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.759 even alive when her first album came out but 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:17.319 But But I feel like over time Especially the 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.559 older that I get the more that I've resonated 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.440 with with her music Um, but I feel like her Christmas 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.980 music for me especially was like the gateway 00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:32.299 to that. Um, because, um, I think for a lot of 00:29:32.299 --> 00:29:34.640 my younger years, I would have never probably 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.200 listened to Amy Grant or said I would listen 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:42.700 to Amy Grant. Um, and, and I was stuck in my 00:29:42.700 --> 00:29:46.799 whole world of rock music, which when you, when 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:51.140 you think about the fact that Amy Grant was to 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.180 The Christian music industry what switch foot 00:29:56.180 --> 00:30:00.900 was 15 20 years later I think you have to think 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:04.799 some in those categories and realize just who 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:10.759 she was at her time was a huge deal just like 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.740 an artist like switch fit or POD or whoever it 00:30:14.740 --> 00:30:18.819 may be was later on and we have a hard time sometimes 00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:22.480 getting out of our Getting out of our experience 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.740 in our world to realize like what was happening 00:30:24.740 --> 00:30:27.400 earlier on and that it could have only been an 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.279 emigrant at that point in time that could have 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.559 accomplished what she did and so I think I've 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.619 been able to understand that more the older that 00:30:35.619 --> 00:30:38.900 I get and connect with our music more The older 00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:41.099 that I get and and her Christmas music. Like 00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:43.019 I said, it's kind of been the gateway for that 00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:48.630 for me of Jess, like she has a few Christmas 00:30:48.630 --> 00:30:52.289 songs that I just love, love, love. And two of 00:30:52.289 --> 00:30:58.450 them are on this album. And so those have been 00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:00.410 on Christmas playlist for a long time. And I 00:31:00.410 --> 00:31:03.150 feel like I've just grown to love them even more 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:05.470 over time. And so I'm excited to kind of dig 00:31:05.470 --> 00:31:08.009 into this. I don't know that I've ever listened 00:31:08.009 --> 00:31:10.910 to this album. Maybe I have from start to finish, 00:31:10.970 --> 00:31:18.210 but I feel like in her day, Amy Grant and Michael 00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:21.190 to be Smith, who I think started out on tour 00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:24.529 with her as like a keyboardist or whatever, and 00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:26.549 then kind of like wrote her coattails a little 00:31:26.549 --> 00:31:29.230 bit and then became his own thing and put out 00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:31.650 his own Christmas albums that were a huge deal. 00:31:31.849 --> 00:31:35.490 But she was kind of the trailblazer and all that. 00:31:35.789 --> 00:31:38.490 And so it's kind of fun to absolutely. I mean, 00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:43.950 before Amy. You had the Jesus music phenomenon. 00:31:44.589 --> 00:31:47.750 You know, Larry Norman and all of that, which 00:31:47.750 --> 00:31:51.430 had a lot of controversy surrounding it. Amy 00:31:51.430 --> 00:31:56.089 brought CCM to the mainstream of, you know, where 00:31:56.089 --> 00:32:04.250 everybody was listening to Amy Grant. Just the 00:32:04.250 --> 00:32:08.250 fact that mom bought me an Amy Grant album for 00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:18.119 Christmas is huge. She trusted it. Yeah. So I 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.119 love that. I love that. All right, Brandon, for 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.420 you, a little different story, maybe. Yeah, it's 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:27.920 kind of awkward to follow all of that, because 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.059 to be honest, I grew up thinking that Amy Grant 00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:33.160 was just Natalie Grant's aunt or something, but 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:40.900 also saying I think for me, though, that I I 00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:43.519 think I got really big into like Christian music 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:48.519 in probably 2006, 2007. So I think by that point 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:54.380 that was kind of out of maybe like the heyday 00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.400 of Amy Grant. Because I think at that point it's 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.279 like you would see her appear maybe like at the 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.980 Dove Awards or if there was something like special, 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.119 like a tribute album. But like I don't remember. 00:33:05.549 --> 00:33:08.450 I don't really remember hearing her a lot on 00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:10.950 the radio, or I mean like at Winter Jam, like 00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:15.549 you didn't have her. So for me, going into this, 00:33:16.470 --> 00:33:19.369 it's exciting because I couldn't tell you an 00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:22.309 Amy Grant song, but there's people out there 00:33:22.309 --> 00:33:26.990 like yourself that are like, not only was she 00:33:26.990 --> 00:33:30.650 important to me, but just the industry as a whole. 00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:34.559 And I think that you know, you guys talk about, 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.460 like, a switch foot, or you look at, like, a 00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:39.859 DC talk. And it's hard to kind of, like, explain 00:33:39.859 --> 00:33:43.900 to people that, hey, without this band, the whole 00:33:43.900 --> 00:33:45.900 landscape looks different. And that's the vibe 00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:47.839 I've always gotten from Amy Grant, is that if 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.519 you remove her from the history of Christian 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:56.140 music, like, it looks different. Oh, definitely. 00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.839 Yeah. So, for me, it's always exciting to not 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.920 you know to not only dive into a band that I've 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.200 never listened to but to dive into a band and 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.559 just get a little bit of a feel for like okay 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.079 like this band they said it was very revolutionary 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.780 so it's like you know what what about it's different 00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.199 and I think even like this Christmas album like 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.380 it is kind of different because some of the stuff 00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:28.619 it might sound like classic or like dated to 00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:31.159 me, but it's also remembering that like, well, 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.739 back in the day, maybe it was crazy that someone 00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:36.320 is a Christian artist and singing about like 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.239 Santa Claus, you know, or something like that. 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.639 So yeah, I was, I was excited to listen and to 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.500 tell people I finally have listened to Amy Grant. 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.860 I think I'll say too, to that, that I don't know 00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:50.869 that a Christmas album is necessarily the best 00:34:50.869 --> 00:34:53.610 like introduction to an artist. Yeah. Because 00:34:53.610 --> 00:34:56.449 you actually you don't you don't get a sense 00:34:56.449 --> 00:35:01.869 of like her music music through this because 00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:05.230 it for for whatever it is like it is a pretty 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:09.300 straightforward classic. Christmas album and 00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:13.320 it's much more influenced by Christmas than it 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.099 is influenced by Amy Grant. And so you're not 00:35:17.099 --> 00:35:21.340 getting a sense of her style or much like through 00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:25.980 this. Um, even as we talk about age to age for 00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:30.039 that. Yeah. Go, go listen to some of her like 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:33.280 really, really famous pop records and you'll 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.860 get a better sense of like who she was as an 00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:39.880 artist than you will from this. But, um, so another 00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.840 thing that that's just come up in some of our 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.099 conversation that I did just kind of want to 00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:45.940 talk about, and I'm sure this will come up as 00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:49.400 we talk through the album too, is Brandon we've 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.780 talked about before how you kind of enjoy a little 00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:58.159 bit more of the like out there different kind 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.659 of takes on Christmas music than you do traditional 00:36:00.659 --> 00:36:03.420 Christmas music. How do you think that makes 00:36:03.420 --> 00:36:06.000 you feel like going into like listening to this 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.280 album? I think it kind of makes me like afraid 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:16.369 because like so like we're reviewing another 00:36:16.369 --> 00:36:19.349 album during Christmas and it's an album that 00:36:19.349 --> 00:36:22.789 I gravitated towards because it was very different 00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:27.570 from what I grew up as. So I think that for me 00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:29.469 there's some songs that I've been able to go 00:36:29.469 --> 00:36:32.230 back and appreciate and then there's some songs 00:36:32.230 --> 00:36:36.409 that like you're just you're put into such a 00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:38.769 box with Christmas music because I feel like 00:36:38.769 --> 00:36:41.949 the stuff that I love Most people are not going 00:36:41.949 --> 00:36:44.010 to enjoy because there's people that they sit 00:36:44.010 --> 00:36:47.230 down like like my mom Like she enjoys like relying 00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:49.550 case. She enjoys Toby Max Christmas, but like 00:36:49.550 --> 00:36:52.570 little drummer boy She just wants the classic. 00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:55.929 She does not want you to add in a drum machine 00:36:55.929 --> 00:36:59.949 or like scream in it She just wants that so I 00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:04.510 think that For me, even if I don't like enjoy 00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:08.710 an album. I can appreciate it that Okay, yeah, 00:37:08.730 --> 00:37:10.989 they're not making an album for me because if 00:37:10.989 --> 00:37:13.750 they made an album number one, I'm cheap So I'm 00:37:13.750 --> 00:37:16.130 probably not you're gonna pay like $15 for it. 00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:18.389 So it's like you're better off just make an album 00:37:18.389 --> 00:37:22.829 for People who are gonna pay For the three million 00:37:22.829 --> 00:37:25.769 people that bought this album before 1997. Yeah, 00:37:25.769 --> 00:37:28.849 so I Highly doubt that whatever I say on here 00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:34.610 that Amy's going to need to address it All right, 00:37:34.829 --> 00:37:39.179 well With that, let's kind of get into our track 00:37:39.179 --> 00:37:43.239 by track discussion on this. So Home for Christmas 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:49.559 starts off with Amy's version of Have Yourself 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.099 a Merry Little Christmas. What did you guys think 00:37:53.099 --> 00:37:58.599 about this one? I can go first. I think that 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:05.130 it sets the tone. It gave it gave me this idea 00:38:05.130 --> 00:38:10.670 that I'm gonna get a lot of kind of the the same 00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:13.829 old same old but it's gonna be high quality and 00:38:13.829 --> 00:38:16.090 I think that's what you found on the album is 00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:20.369 that all of the covers like there's really nothing 00:38:20.369 --> 00:38:24.369 going on that's like that game changing but there's 00:38:24.369 --> 00:38:28.369 also not like at no point is it like oh the vocals 00:38:28.369 --> 00:38:32.889 are off or I don't feel like the backing is bad. 00:38:34.269 --> 00:38:36.769 So I feel like it did a good job of kind of just 00:38:36.769 --> 00:38:40.989 setting that tone of you're going to get more 00:38:40.989 --> 00:38:43.030 of what you're hearing now, if that makes sense? 00:38:43.650 --> 00:38:48.050 Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Well, number one, 00:38:48.070 --> 00:38:50.949 this is my favorite secular Christmas song. So 00:38:50.949 --> 00:38:55.170 I love that she started off with this song. But 00:38:55.170 --> 00:39:01.519 it lays well with her voice and the the orchestration 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:06.079 in the arrangement is not too over the top to, 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.820 you know, where you have this orchestra with 00:39:10.820 --> 00:39:15.159 Amy's down -home voice. You know, it lays well. 00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:19.239 And I think, yeah, I agree. This was, I think, 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.820 a perfect start to the album. Very traditional, 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.860 but nice. Yeah, I always enjoy when an album 00:39:27.860 --> 00:39:32.349 starts off like Not at a high point, but we'll 00:39:32.349 --> 00:39:35.630 start start kind of in a different, more chill 00:39:35.630 --> 00:39:39.570 way. And I'm with you. I really like have yourself 00:39:39.570 --> 00:39:42.409 a merry little Christmas. And I thought this 00:39:42.409 --> 00:39:47.170 was a really fun take on it because I love that 00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:51.710 it's basically just strings with some harp mixed 00:39:51.710 --> 00:39:56.389 in. And it's it's not super dramatic. It's a 00:39:56.389 --> 00:40:00.739 little melancholy. Yeah, I liked I liked this 00:40:00.739 --> 00:40:03.460 one a lot more than I thought I was gonna like 00:40:03.460 --> 00:40:07.980 this one when it hit just because it didn't over 00:40:07.980 --> 00:40:11.780 it didn't overdo it but it really like sat in 00:40:11.780 --> 00:40:14.179 a place that I felt like like you said Lisa was 00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:18.159 good for for her vocally and It just kind of 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:22.099 let itself be Where where it worked really? Well, 00:40:22.099 --> 00:40:25.619 so I thought that was good Next we move into 00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:28.909 it's the most wonderful time Lisa, how do you 00:40:28.909 --> 00:40:33.530 feel about this album or this song? I like this 00:40:33.530 --> 00:40:37.050 one, too. Again, it's there's no surprises here. 00:40:38.769 --> 00:40:45.050 It's a very traditional arrangement. In fact, 00:40:45.090 --> 00:40:48.250 if you if you placed it next to Andy Williams 00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:52.949 version of of the song, this cover, there's not 00:40:52.949 --> 00:40:56.989 a whole lot of difference. She she sings it well. 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.679 This is also kind of an introduction. It's just 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.880 taking it up a little notch because there's more 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:12.340 energy in this song. She's getting us ready for 00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:19.260 what's to come. Yeah, I thought this was good. 00:41:19.780 --> 00:41:23.760 I don't actually know. Like the the version of 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.559 this that I knew really well is the Andy Williams 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.539 version because we grew up listening to this 00:41:27.539 --> 00:41:30.780 in our house And I don't even know if that's 00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:34.500 the original Version of the song or not. I don't 00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:37.059 know. It's just the one that we grew up with 00:41:37.059 --> 00:41:41.119 but in my head that's like the standard and And 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.460 so it didn't quite hit the level of that for 00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:47.059 me Well, no, but there's probably a lot of nostalgia 00:41:47.059 --> 00:41:49.639 mixed up in that too. And so it's hard to know 00:41:50.409 --> 00:41:53.389 Um, but yeah, I like the strings are back. There's 00:41:53.389 --> 00:41:56.170 a little more orchestra, like a broader orchestra 00:41:56.170 --> 00:41:59.610 behind what's happening with this one. Um, and 00:41:59.610 --> 00:42:02.869 so it picks up the pace a little bit and, um, 00:42:02.869 --> 00:42:04.809 yeah, I don't know. Did you know this song, Brandon? 00:42:06.349 --> 00:42:10.610 Um, yeah, yeah, I've heard it before. Yeah. Yeah. 00:42:11.349 --> 00:42:14.269 Um, yeah, I liked it. I feel like her voice, 00:42:14.269 --> 00:42:17.530 um, it shined a little bit more than have yourself 00:42:17.530 --> 00:42:20.440 a Merry Christmas. so i think this one what stood 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.260 out to me was kind of getting a glimpse at like 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:26.400 oh i feel like she's a really good like singer 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.820 her voice is very like strong and all um so that's 00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:32.059 what kind of stood out to me with the track yeah 00:42:32.059 --> 00:42:36.599 yeah yeah that's good uh track three joy to the 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:41.659 world um four unto us a child is born um this 00:42:41.659 --> 00:42:49.610 this is like um this is the um This is the whole 00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:51.909 like church pageants were loving this because 00:42:51.909 --> 00:42:54.210 they took this version. If they had an orchestra 00:42:54.210 --> 00:42:56.690 and were singing this, their choir was singing 00:42:56.690 --> 00:42:59.929 like, I feel like this was, this was sung in 00:42:59.929 --> 00:43:03.630 churches probably for decades after this came 00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:10.510 out. Well, okay. So Amy is trying to sing this 00:43:10.510 --> 00:43:15.550 one with the boy choir. Yeah. Okay. It doesn't 00:43:15.550 --> 00:43:22.179 work for me. Amy Grant sings The Messiah? No. 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.400 Love Amy, of course, but, you know, this is not 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:35.320 her wheelhouse. And to be fair, they did try 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.360 to mask her voice a bit by bringing the boy choir 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:45.139 out more. Then I'm like, well, why even put it 00:43:45.139 --> 00:43:51.699 on the album because Amy's not shining. I didn't 00:43:51.699 --> 00:43:54.699 get this one at all. Yeah, I thought her vocals 00:43:54.699 --> 00:43:56.599 were a little buried and obviously there's a 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.239 really long, the really long Joy to the World 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.800 instrumental before For Unto Us, a Child is Born 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.639 actually comes in. So that was an interesting 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.400 mix. Again, you've got the strings in the orchestra 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.099 and then you have the breakout into the Messiah. 00:44:13.670 --> 00:44:18.150 You almost feel like because they hired a London 00:44:18.150 --> 00:44:22.789 orchestra to do the orchestra music on this album 00:44:22.789 --> 00:44:25.650 that they wanted to showcase that. Right. And 00:44:25.650 --> 00:44:30.170 not Amy. Yeah. Well, and there's a decent amount 00:44:30.170 --> 00:44:33.469 of that on this album in a couple of places for 00:44:33.469 --> 00:44:36.610 sure. Yeah. But I think that was kind of the 00:44:36.610 --> 00:44:40.349 way back then is, yeah, I don't know. in the 00:44:40.349 --> 00:44:45.230 90s, lush orchestrations were the thing for Christmas 00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:51.489 music. It was just so for the time, maybe, but 00:44:51.489 --> 00:44:57.010 just doesn't really work for me. Yeah. I think 00:44:57.010 --> 00:45:01.489 for me, I really love whenever there's like mashups 00:45:01.489 --> 00:45:05.730 and I think it just goes back to like, I enjoy 00:45:05.730 --> 00:45:08.489 when someone does something a little bit different. 00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.079 So for me, I think I just enjoyed the fact there 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.880 was this I felt like it was and it's kind of 00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.219 a pattern on this is that I think that original 00:45:20.219 --> 00:45:24.639 and Her doing her own thing. I think that I found 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.739 myself enjoying those tracks more. Yeah, so I 00:45:27.739 --> 00:45:32.599 think that for me like I guess that maybe like 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.400 hit a little bit of like the problems with like 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.539 oh, this is this is work or not and I just got 00:45:38.539 --> 00:45:40.659 excited that, oh, I've never heard these two 00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:44.360 songs, like, mashed up together. So I think that's 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.619 what kind of, like, was a highlight for me, is 00:45:46.619 --> 00:45:49.119 just seeing this, okay, here's something, finally, 00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.300 that's a little bit, like, we're taking a chance 00:45:52.300 --> 00:45:57.840 on there. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't dislike it, but 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:03.519 it wasn't a highlight for me on it. We move now 00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:09.159 on to Breath of Heaven. Is that the next one? 00:46:09.539 --> 00:46:15.179 Yep. Yeah. That's the best. This is the best 00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:21.260 track on the album for me. Amy Grant helped to 00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:26.619 write this song. So it's her song and she does 00:46:26.619 --> 00:46:31.179 it well. I don't think it, I mean, it's perfect 00:46:31.179 --> 00:46:33.940 for her and it's just a really intimate portrait 00:46:33.940 --> 00:46:38.989 of Mary. I absolutely love this track. Yeah, 00:46:38.989 --> 00:46:41.590 I can't think of a negative thing to say about 00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:51.849 this one. It's a five for me. I love the piano 00:46:51.849 --> 00:46:55.190 in the beginning, in the sense there's like a, 00:46:55.190 --> 00:47:03.630 you feel the tension of Mary responding in the 00:47:03.630 --> 00:47:07.809 moment and seeing her own inadequacy and needing 00:47:09.390 --> 00:47:12.730 needing the strength that only God can give her. 00:47:13.389 --> 00:47:18.849 The synthesizers are like so good. I don't know, 00:47:18.869 --> 00:47:21.510 I was listening on headphones and just, they're 00:47:21.510 --> 00:47:24.190 not doing anything crazy, but these just really 00:47:24.190 --> 00:47:26.929 deep synthesizers that are serving as like the 00:47:26.929 --> 00:47:31.469 foundation of the song are so good. And that 00:47:31.469 --> 00:47:33.889 with the slight piano, just give a really... 00:47:34.030 --> 00:47:37.889 great space for her vocals to shine and to stand 00:47:37.889 --> 00:47:45.269 out. And so, man, yeah, the vocals are amazing. 00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:48.590 The melody is amazing. I love the vibe and the 00:47:48.590 --> 00:47:55.110 feel that the song gives off. And I love the 00:47:55.110 --> 00:48:00.969 lyrics where she says, help me be strong. Yes, 00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:06.889 yes, yes. Help me It's it's just so the lyrics 00:48:06.889 --> 00:48:09.710 there are incredible just the dropping of a word 00:48:09.710 --> 00:48:13.409 on every repeat Help me be strong. Help me be 00:48:13.409 --> 00:48:18.969 help me It's such a good such such good writing 00:48:18.969 --> 00:48:23.650 Yeah, yes, I just love love love this song Yeah, 00:48:23.650 --> 00:48:25.909 I I always appreciate when I can be on the same 00:48:25.909 --> 00:48:28.730 page because in my in my experience usually what 00:48:28.730 --> 00:48:31.239 happens is I'll have two people be like, this 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.239 is life -changing. And I'm like, if there was 00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.639 a skip, track off. But no, like I was saying 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.360 a while ago, I think that if I could just have 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.980 a whole album of just the originals, I think 00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:49.920 this is one that I might have heard but never 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.280 knew it was her. But yeah, I love the tension. 00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:58.039 I hate whenever people will take like a story 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.659 like that and it turns it into a song where it's 00:49:00.659 --> 00:49:03.739 like oh we're sad in the first verse but then 00:49:03.739 --> 00:49:05.639 by the chorus everything's like fixed like it's 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.420 almost like this wink of like everything's gonna 00:49:07.420 --> 00:49:11.019 be good but it you just have that constant tension 00:49:11.019 --> 00:49:14.800 where it is this like i'm like i don't know what's 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.960 gonna happen this is sad and i think you know 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.170 even at like christmas or easter Like I said, 00:49:21.269 --> 00:49:23.510 those stories get so condensed that there's no 00:49:23.510 --> 00:49:27.650 time to feel this despair like we forget Like 00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:29.789 even when we've read history, sometimes I think 00:49:29.789 --> 00:49:32.369 like World War two It's like in school you you 00:49:32.369 --> 00:49:34.590 spend five days and you've covered everything 00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:38.050 whereas back in the day it was No, people went 00:49:38.050 --> 00:49:40.389 months thinking oh when's when's there gonna 00:49:40.389 --> 00:49:43.150 be a bomb that hits, you know here or whatever? 00:49:43.769 --> 00:49:46.989 So I really appreciate that this song there is 00:49:46.989 --> 00:49:50.809 that like hope but it gives the listener this, 00:49:50.809 --> 00:49:54.190 this, this like, Oh, what, what is going to happen? 00:49:54.190 --> 00:49:56.329 You know, like this is what I'm feeling and all. 00:49:56.449 --> 00:50:00.269 So I really, um, really love this track. Yeah. 00:50:00.269 --> 00:50:02.989 Yeah. It's such a good one. It's such an Amy 00:50:02.989 --> 00:50:07.230 track. It's an Amy song. And this is why I love 00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:14.630 Amy Grant because there is this, Oh Lord, I am 00:50:14.630 --> 00:50:20.840 so imperfect. And You know, but I'm yours and 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.960 do what you will. I mean, that's that's Amy Grant. 00:50:24.500 --> 00:50:27.619 That's all of her music. I mean, that's the heart 00:50:27.619 --> 00:50:32.260 of her music. And so it's just this is an Amy 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:36.440 song. It's just it's why I love it so much. Yeah. 00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:39.539 Yeah. It's my definitely my favorite track from 00:50:39.539 --> 00:50:42.159 this from this record as well. So I love it. 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.860 All right, track five, Oh Come All Ye Faithful. 00:50:45.980 --> 00:50:47.440 What'd you guys think about this one? Little 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:53.239 change up here. I love this one. I love it. Amy 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.139 with a guitar. And this is Phil Keagy guitar. 00:50:57.539 --> 00:51:02.000 So it's amazing. I mean, he's just incredible. 00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:10.079 But yeah, again, this is Amy in her wheelhouse. 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:16.300 It suits her. It's. I love it. It's gorgeous 00:51:16.300 --> 00:51:22.820 and it's a creative arrangement. Just love it. 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.420 Yeah, I so have a little bit of a different take. 00:51:25.579 --> 00:51:30.099 I think it's such a different like. It's just 00:51:30.099 --> 00:51:33.099 a different feel from everything that we've experienced 00:51:33.099 --> 00:51:36.280 so far that it felt like a little jarring for 00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:41.519 me. And I like the guitar work. And I could tell, 00:51:41.860 --> 00:51:43.440 I didn't know it was Phil Keagy, but I could 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:47.260 tell it's definitely a very good guitarist that's 00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:52.400 playing this right now. But yeah, I noted that 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:58.420 she does these vocal pauses that aren't traditional. 00:51:58.619 --> 00:52:00.539 And I kind of just wanted to sing along to the 00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:03.679 song, but it was hard to sing to because of the 00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:07.820 rhythm changes. don't know um it wasn't my favorite 00:52:07.820 --> 00:52:12.239 one on the album but um but yeah i think it's 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.639 good i think um for me i enjoyed the um like 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.900 the change of pace with it going a little more 00:52:18.900 --> 00:52:25.159 like acoustic if you will um but i think it thing 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:29.199 just goes back to i find myself i found myself 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:34.239 feeling like okay this what what about this version 00:52:34.619 --> 00:52:39.039 I guess like kind of like changes it. And I mean, 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.219 I think the problem too is that this is a song 00:52:41.219 --> 00:52:44.760 that I've heard. I think it's like a band in 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:48.639 Kansas has done one, like Toby Mack. So I think 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.179 that that's the problem sometimes is when you 00:52:52.179 --> 00:52:55.059 are covering one is that you have these other 00:52:55.059 --> 00:52:57.780 people that have covered it. So it's like, you're 00:52:57.780 --> 00:53:00.960 trying to compete now with, like if it's an original, 00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:04.800 no one's ever heard this one. So, you have that. 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.800 But when you're trying to compete, like, that 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.980 can be good and bad, because there's been songs 00:53:09.980 --> 00:53:13.239 that an artist comes along and it wasn't until 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.639 that person sang it that I started paying attention 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.380 and thinking, oh, I really love what this song 00:53:18.380 --> 00:53:20.119 is saying, right? I never thought this was a 00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.099 Christian song, but then a Christian artist sings 00:53:22.099 --> 00:53:24.739 it and it takes a whole new meaning or whatever. 00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.800 So, I think for me, it's almost just a problem 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.989 of when you're Just thinking of every version 00:53:32.989 --> 00:53:35.389 you've heard of this song right like it sometimes 00:53:35.389 --> 00:53:38.630 can't suffer um, you know, I think it's the other 00:53:38.630 --> 00:53:41.190 way I think if someone tried to cover like breath 00:53:41.190 --> 00:53:44.210 of heaven, you're gonna have a really hard time 00:53:44.210 --> 00:53:47.690 Like topping or like equaling what she does on 00:53:47.690 --> 00:53:51.570 there So yeah, no, I get that for sure Yeah, 00:53:51.570 --> 00:53:55.010 I think it's I think it's good I just I think 00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:58.130 my thing with it is it it doesn't feel like the 00:53:58.130 --> 00:54:02.260 rest of the album And so I struggle a little 00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:05.380 bit to have it fit in. It just feels like maybe 00:54:05.380 --> 00:54:13.900 it doesn't fit. I get that. I think for me, because 00:54:13.900 --> 00:54:18.119 this is so much Amy's normal wheelhouse, it worked 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:24.659 for me. Especially if you listen to what she's 00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:31.079 putting out now. you know it's um it's pretty 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:34.280 much mostly acoustic guitars it's very it's very 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:40.579 amy yeah yeah so uh but uh i could listen to 00:54:40.579 --> 00:54:44.159 this to feel keggy play this all day long it's 00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:48.619 beautiful so yeah um next we move to grown up 00:54:48.619 --> 00:54:51.460 christmas list um what are your thoughts on this 00:54:51.460 --> 00:54:56.380 song lisa Okay, this is another favorite. This 00:54:56.380 --> 00:55:02.079 is a cover too. But Amy actually wrote some original 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:09.179 lyrics for this piece. And I saw an interview 00:55:09.179 --> 00:55:11.780 she did a couple of years ago, where she said, 00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:14.760 you know, she had asked the original songwriter, 00:55:14.820 --> 00:55:18.239 what's his name, David Foster, if she could. 00:55:18.900 --> 00:55:22.000 And he liked what she did so much that he offered 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.670 to give her songwriting credit, which she turned 00:55:25.670 --> 00:55:32.389 down. But she added a verse, let's see, I wrote 00:55:32.389 --> 00:55:36.449 down what she, oh, as children we believe the 00:55:36.449 --> 00:55:38.889 grandest sight to see was something lovely wrapped 00:55:38.889 --> 00:55:41.849 beneath the tree, but heaven only knows that 00:55:41.849 --> 00:55:44.650 packages and bows can never heal a hurting human 00:55:44.650 --> 00:55:52.380 soul. It was what she added to it. This song's 00:55:52.380 --> 00:55:56.800 been covered by so many, I mean, big artists. 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:03.599 But Amy's, this one is the first time I'd ever 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:11.780 heard the song. So it remains my favorite. Probably 00:56:11.780 --> 00:56:16.300 just because of that. Yeah, I don't, so. I don't 00:56:16.300 --> 00:56:19.659 know if I've ever heard another version of it 00:56:19.659 --> 00:56:22.599 thinking about it. And I think I always thought 00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:27.440 this was an original until I was listening through 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:29.480 for this and noticed that her name wasn't in 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:33.719 the in the credits. And so this has been covered 00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:40.179 by Aretha Franklin, Barbara Streisand, Pentatonix. 00:56:40.820 --> 00:56:44.519 There's tons of. Covers of this song. Yeah, i'm 00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:47.019 sure. Yeah, i'm sure there are now do you was 00:56:47.019 --> 00:56:50.159 hers like the one that kind of broke it out? 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:55.039 First was the first cover Okay Did it ever been 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:58.719 done of it? Uh, it was originally done. I think 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.559 for a tv show in canada Gotcha where the songwriter 00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:09.920 did a duet with nathalie cole. Okay. Um but amy's 00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.460 was the first cover gotcha of many many many 00:57:14.460 --> 00:57:19.920 yeah i so i love this song too um and i think 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.039 that there was a time in my life when i probably 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:28.179 thought this song was cheesy um earlier in in 00:57:28.179 --> 00:57:31.960 my life um but i think that the older that i 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:38.099 get um and the crazier that our world gets um 00:57:38.099 --> 00:57:40.440 the more that the lyrics just resonate with the 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:45.210 way that i feel um that no, that's what I do 00:57:45.210 --> 00:57:50.630 want is just for our world to be different. And 00:57:50.630 --> 00:57:54.550 so I just feel like it works so well. And I know 00:57:54.550 --> 00:57:56.510 musically, like in the beginning, you've got 00:57:56.510 --> 00:58:02.650 the like the 80s, 90s, like electric piano kind 00:58:02.650 --> 00:58:08.260 of feel that You don't really see on other places 00:58:08.260 --> 00:58:10.719 on this record And so maybe musically it stands 00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:12.659 out a little bit to you, but I love that about 00:58:12.659 --> 00:58:15.500 it, too Like it it takes it back in time a little 00:58:15.500 --> 00:58:19.260 bit in a way that that feels warm for me I also 00:58:19.260 --> 00:58:23.079 just think this song works so well for her vocals 00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:28.599 Yes, that it really lets her singing shine and 00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:34.199 her voice is just perfect for it like when she 00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.539 goes up on some of those parts towards the end 00:58:36.539 --> 00:58:39.619 with kind of the big end of it, like just the 00:58:39.619 --> 00:58:43.539 tone of her voice fits this song so well. And 00:58:43.539 --> 00:58:47.360 so yeah, yeah, I love this one. Yeah, so I was 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.059 surprised too because I thought it was an original 00:58:50.059 --> 00:58:54.280 too, but I think that's also like it goes back 00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.719 to when you're covering something that like not 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.980 a lot of people like at that time had done, you 00:58:59.980 --> 00:59:03.960 kind of get to make it your own. um yeah i'm 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.659 i'm with you i think it's right on that line 00:59:06.659 --> 00:59:11.659 of being like you you could be like this is way 00:59:11.659 --> 00:59:14.300 too cheesy and i think even a couple years ago 00:59:14.300 --> 00:59:17.360 like i would have been like oh okay we're like 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.840 this is too silly um but i remember when the 00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:22.780 the line came on where it's like everyone would 00:59:22.780 --> 00:59:26.480 have a friend it is just like the more the more 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.639 i look at like the world like it just it blows 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:32.679 my mind um just people that walk in the doors 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:36.079 of our church, or the senior center I work at, 00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.960 like, the people that don't have a friend. And 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:43.059 it's hard for me to sometimes comprehend that, 00:59:43.139 --> 00:59:45.599 because I think to myself that, like, man, if 00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:49.059 I needed a place to stay, I'm like, there's 20 00:59:49.059 --> 00:59:50.780 people I could call right now, and there's no 00:59:50.780 --> 00:59:53.280 questions asked. They would find a spot. And 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.280 I mean, there's another couple of dozen that 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.139 might say, what's your situation? Or let me check, 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.019 you know, or whatever to see if we have space. 01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:04.900 So, like, even just hearing that line, I'm like, 01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:07.519 yeah, I feel like it can come across as cheesy, 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.539 but then you start thinking to yourself, like, 01:00:10.619 --> 01:00:13.059 yeah, but if you haven't had a friend, you would 01:00:13.059 --> 01:00:17.820 think. So, I think it's right on that line, but 01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:20.199 I think that the verses do a good job of kind 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:24.320 of adding that depth that keeps it from... sounding 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:27.639 like this cheesy or just like, I want, you know, 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:29.639 because I mean, I don't know, like it's people 01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.159 go around. I remember thinking like, pray for 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.159 peace or whatever. It was a very like silly thing 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:37.519 to get older and you're like, well, yeah, we 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.500 shouldn't be rooting for like war. Like that 01:00:40.500 --> 01:00:43.760 doesn't mean that you, you know, like you need 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:47.539 to be against peace or whatever. So yeah, I feel 01:00:47.539 --> 01:00:50.889 like it's, it's on that line, but it does a really 01:00:50.889 --> 01:00:54.769 good job of not going into, like, cheesy, eye 01:00:54.769 --> 01:00:57.489 -rolling category. Well, and I feel like she 01:00:57.489 --> 01:01:02.530 sings it with, like, her voice has an innocent 01:01:02.530 --> 01:01:07.389 quality to it. That, like, when she sings it, 01:01:07.489 --> 01:01:12.250 there's so much earnestness to it that there's 01:01:12.250 --> 01:01:14.650 no tongue -in -cheek to it at all. Like, it just 01:01:14.650 --> 01:01:19.579 feels really... Um, really true for her and I 01:01:19.579 --> 01:01:22.739 think that helps a lot. So Well, I mean this 01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:27.000 is the message of christmas. I mean For god's 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:34.380 kingdom to come honestly, yeah and I think yeah, 01:01:34.380 --> 01:01:39.800 this is like I think She's been building up to 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:44.619 this You know, uh, it's almost a prayer. Yeah, 01:01:44.619 --> 01:01:48.039 it is And just as Christians, like you said, 01:01:48.139 --> 01:01:52.480 a realization that we'll never have this, this 01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:56.280 side of eternity of heaven. And so it really 01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.579 is like a yearning and a longing for like what's 01:01:59.579 --> 01:02:05.239 to come. And I do love that. And I don't think 01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:09.360 that there's anything cheesy about longing and 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:15.099 wanting that. Track seven is rocking around the 01:02:15.099 --> 01:02:18.260 Christmas tree. What were y 'all's thoughts on 01:02:18.260 --> 01:02:22.699 this one? That's bringing us back down to earth. 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:27.099 But I love this one. This one's fun. I think 01:02:27.099 --> 01:02:31.679 she does a good job on it and it's it. Yeah, 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.920 it's a good basic arrangement of it. Again, you're 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.659 not going to find any surprises here, but it's 01:02:38.659 --> 01:02:43.860 a good track. I like it. Yeah, I think it um 01:02:43.860 --> 01:02:47.360 Like as much as you like love the more serious 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.219 songs like you also can't have every track be 01:02:50.219 --> 01:02:53.679 breath of heaven and then jumping to like growing 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:58.679 up Christmas list so I my thought on this and 01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:01.840 without context it sounds like it's like attacking 01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:07.079 the song but My note was that I appreciated that 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:11.889 it was short So without explanation it sounds, 01:03:12.429 --> 01:03:16.829 but what I mean by that is is that I think I've 01:03:16.829 --> 01:03:21.750 heard versions of this that like to me I've heard 01:03:21.750 --> 01:03:24.789 there's a band it's like James Reunion that I 01:03:24.789 --> 01:03:27.550 think they have my they have what's my favorite 01:03:27.550 --> 01:03:30.969 version of this song I think they released it 01:03:30.969 --> 01:03:34.309 on one of the Happy Christmas albums but I think 01:03:34.309 --> 01:03:37.070 a lot of times bands kind of like they just drag 01:03:37.070 --> 01:03:40.500 it out and I appreciated that like it I think 01:03:40.500 --> 01:03:42.800 it clocked in like right over two minutes so 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:46.059 it felt like it wasn't a we have to keep this 01:03:46.059 --> 01:03:47.880 going just to be going so it felt like it was 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:51.579 a fun break um but I appreciate that it wasn't 01:03:51.579 --> 01:03:54.519 like let's turn this into four minutes and add 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.079 another verse or add some solos or something 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:01.079 yeah um so I appreciated that it was this little 01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:04.440 break and it felt it almost felt more like in 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:08.239 like interlude or something than an actual like 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.940 track Which like I've come to realize that I 01:04:11.940 --> 01:04:13.960 really appreciate albums that have those little 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:18.719 like 40 second like skits or like intros or like 01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:21.219 outros or whatever and I've noticed I missed 01:04:21.219 --> 01:04:24.099 that a lot about today's music so I appreciate 01:04:24.099 --> 01:04:26.679 it whenever there's like a little shorter track 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:30.679 that kind of like helps Get get out of the the 01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.860 track we were just in Yeah, yeah, I think that's 01:04:33.860 --> 01:04:37.360 something this this album does pretty well is 01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.860 That the songs on here don't overstay their welcome 01:04:40.860 --> 01:04:44.880 Just in general that they're a couple of tracks 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.860 that clock in right around two minutes Yeah, 01:04:47.860 --> 01:04:50.420 and that's all that that they need and I think 01:04:50.420 --> 01:04:53.059 that there's a lot of wisdom and like Like you 01:04:53.059 --> 01:04:57.280 said not overplaying something Yeah, I'll just 01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.900 be honest this is probably my least favorite 01:04:59.900 --> 01:05:03.449 song on the album um again i feel like it just 01:05:03.449 --> 01:05:08.130 maybe doesn't fit um um it's not one of my favorite 01:05:08.130 --> 01:05:10.650 christmas songs to begin with so i think that 01:05:10.650 --> 01:05:15.590 probably doesn't help it either um but um i do 01:05:15.590 --> 01:05:19.610 i like the like the kind of doo -wop stuff that's 01:05:19.610 --> 01:05:22.630 going on and there's a key change that happens 01:05:22.630 --> 01:05:27.130 um but yeah it's just not it's not my favorite 01:05:27.130 --> 01:05:32.719 um so i don't know We'll move into Winter Wonderland 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:38.059 next. Lisa, what were your thoughts? I think 01:05:38.059 --> 01:05:41.820 this is a fairly good arrangement. I like that 01:05:41.820 --> 01:05:47.460 it's got a little bit of jazz added to it from 01:05:47.460 --> 01:05:53.219 the traditional, but not enough to change the 01:05:53.219 --> 01:06:04.949 feel of the song. Yeah. I like this one. I agree 01:06:04.949 --> 01:06:09.309 with that. I like the feel of this. Again, we're 01:06:09.309 --> 01:06:12.949 kind of back to the jazzy, orchestral kind of 01:06:12.949 --> 01:06:14.869 sound. And I think it just feels better for this 01:06:14.869 --> 01:06:20.130 album than the kind of trying to rock a little 01:06:20.130 --> 01:06:25.090 bit. And so this one's nothing flashy to it, 01:06:25.090 --> 01:06:27.130 but I think it works. I think it works really 01:06:27.130 --> 01:06:33.400 well and fits on the... fits on the album. Brandon, 01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:38.239 what would you think? I think for me, it's, um, 01:06:38.260 --> 01:06:40.639 it just goes back to it. It doesn't really stray 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.679 from the original. So I felt like it's, you know, 01:06:43.699 --> 01:06:48.059 there's nothing wrong with it, but I just kind 01:06:48.059 --> 01:06:50.539 of find myself being like, okay, it's like, it's 01:06:50.539 --> 01:06:55.360 here. Um, so yeah, it's just a very, I think 01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.579 I find myself with a, just a lot of the Covers 01:06:58.579 --> 01:07:00.719 just being like it's like it's good. Like there's 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.340 nothing Bad or like I'm not upset with it. It's 01:07:04.340 --> 01:07:08.760 just maybe like not Giving that chance to shine 01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:12.340 because I think it's as someone who? Had never 01:07:12.340 --> 01:07:15.119 listened to Amy Grant that was one of my takeaways 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.519 was that oh when she's given the opportunity 01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.320 I feel like I'm really enjoying kind of seeing 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:25.340 her like Yeah, kind of like hard or her talent 01:07:25.340 --> 01:07:30.230 shine through But I mean it just goes back to 01:07:30.230 --> 01:07:34.929 like Like for me, I remember reliant k was a 01:07:34.929 --> 01:07:37.969 big band that they did their own thing And before 01:07:37.969 --> 01:07:39.929 that I knew that stuff was out there But I feel 01:07:39.929 --> 01:07:43.170 like it wasn't as popular as it is now to do 01:07:43.170 --> 01:07:46.550 your own thing like now people will take Silent 01:07:46.550 --> 01:07:49.010 night and turn it into like a rap song or something. 01:07:49.010 --> 01:07:51.070 Whereas I feel like if you did that in the 90s 01:07:51.070 --> 01:07:55.110 You were not gonna get any traction like so I 01:07:55.110 --> 01:07:59.219 think that you know, sometimes um even even tracks 01:07:59.219 --> 01:08:01.619 like this it's like what i might look at and 01:08:01.619 --> 01:08:03.039 think oh that's just what they were singing in 01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.300 the 90s it's also trying to realize like well 01:08:06.300 --> 01:08:10.039 some of the stuff that i think is silly you know 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.519 like like i said earlier i could see it being 01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:14.760 a big deal the first time a christian artist 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:17.619 saying like here comes santa claus and it being 01:08:17.619 --> 01:08:21.420 like oh this person is like whoa hold on a second 01:08:21.420 --> 01:08:23.800 like that they can't sing that you know or something 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:29.680 So, yeah. Yeah, I feel that. All right, track 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:33.359 nine, I'll be home for Christmas. I feel like 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.600 this one sits still in kind of the jazzy world, 01:08:37.659 --> 01:08:43.819 but it feels right. It's a little more melancholy. 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.500 You got the strings and the piano and so I liked 01:08:48.500 --> 01:08:51.220 I like the vibe of this one I did think feel 01:08:51.220 --> 01:08:53.560 like this was an interesting choice just for 01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:58.739 a song for her to sing on on this Because I feel 01:08:58.739 --> 01:09:01.899 like this is you Traditionally, isn't this like 01:09:01.899 --> 01:09:05.979 the whole like I've gone off to war kind of thing, 01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:08.140 but i'll be home for christmas Yeah, and so it 01:09:08.140 --> 01:09:10.140 just kind of felt like weird for an avid grandson. 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:13.609 Well, I mean I like I liked it It's the name 01:09:13.609 --> 01:09:16.069 of the album, so... Yeah, I guess you have to 01:09:16.069 --> 01:09:23.069 do that. This is not my favorite. Out of all 01:09:23.069 --> 01:09:26.010 of the traditional Christmas song covers, this 01:09:26.010 --> 01:09:29.829 is probably my least favorite. I don't think 01:09:29.829 --> 01:09:36.510 it suited her as well as the others did. But, 01:09:36.670 --> 01:09:40.149 I mean, it's okay. I think the orchestration 01:09:40.149 --> 01:09:43.449 gets a little too lush at times, but that's the 01:09:43.449 --> 01:09:50.310 90s too, you know? Yeah, I think that at this 01:09:50.310 --> 01:09:53.130 point, it's just every time I hear an original, 01:09:53.130 --> 01:09:55.630 I think, hey, can we go back or a cover? I'm 01:09:55.630 --> 01:09:59.090 like, can we go back to the other stuff? Yeah. 01:09:59.729 --> 01:10:02.149 I mean, I think it made me think of something 01:10:02.149 --> 01:10:04.880 like if you were in like a hotel. like you know 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.439 when you're sometimes in a hotel and there's 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:08.359 someone over there like playing like piano or 01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.520 whatever or maybe a restaurant because now i'm 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:12.699 thinking about it i don't know how many times 01:10:12.699 --> 01:10:15.239 i've been to a hotel and people are playing like 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.939 music at damped and ends or whatever but like 01:10:17.939 --> 01:10:20.720 it just made me kind of feel like okay it's it's 01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:23.760 what you expect it just it goes back to there's 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.619 nothing that's making me like angry on the album 01:10:26.619 --> 01:10:30.000 um it's just kind of like okay yeah there's nothing 01:10:30.470 --> 01:10:36.850 there's nothing I love or hate about it. I guess 01:10:36.850 --> 01:10:39.109 so moving on to the next one, we have Night Before 01:10:39.109 --> 01:10:43.909 Christmas. I guess before we jump into it, is 01:10:43.909 --> 01:10:47.510 this an original or is this like a cover? This 01:10:47.510 --> 01:10:50.409 is a cover. Okay. Carly Simon wrote this song. 01:10:50.609 --> 01:10:58.390 Okay. And I'll just say right here, Carly Simon's 01:10:58.390 --> 01:11:06.020 version is So much better So much better. Oh 01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:14.359 Yeah, I'm I remain uninspired by this cover I 01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:22.979 don't Yeah, it's not my favorite Yeah, if you 01:11:22.979 --> 01:11:24.800 want to listen to a good version of this song 01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.939 listen to Carly's Mm -hmm. Yeah, I think there's 01:11:27.939 --> 01:11:31.270 a Maybe a reason they kind of stuck it towards 01:11:31.270 --> 01:11:35.510 the end of the album I don't maybe this was just 01:11:35.510 --> 01:11:39.770 me but as the song started like all all of the 01:11:39.770 --> 01:11:42.550 like instrumental parts before the vocals Started 01:11:42.550 --> 01:11:45.250 I was getting a real Eagles like take it to the 01:11:45.250 --> 01:11:49.109 limit vibe Like it almost musically sounded exactly 01:11:49.109 --> 01:11:51.550 like that song and I'm like a recovery an eagle 01:11:51.550 --> 01:11:56.510 song here like what's going on? But so I like 01:11:56.510 --> 01:12:00.569 the intro but the yeah the rest of it just it 01:12:00.569 --> 01:12:04.449 doesn't really stand out to me so i mean it's 01:12:04.449 --> 01:12:07.890 it's a song that i'm not used to hearing that 01:12:07.890 --> 01:12:10.649 often and so in that sense it it it does kind 01:12:10.649 --> 01:12:13.310 of stand out but um but i feel like it doesn't 01:12:13.310 --> 01:12:15.710 work as well as some of the other ones like that 01:12:15.710 --> 01:12:21.710 i i think it fit for me um i think maybe it's 01:12:21.710 --> 01:12:27.340 just like it i to me separating the album into 01:12:27.340 --> 01:12:30.359 the ones that are like I guess maybe very well 01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:32.739 known and then the ones that are either original 01:12:32.739 --> 01:12:37.939 slash not as popular um I think it fits more 01:12:37.939 --> 01:12:41.920 in that one that it's kind of this little like 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:45.279 fun thing that's going on on the side yeah um 01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:49.680 so I think for me um seeing it like that I I 01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:52.420 found myself enjoying it or at least I was enjoying 01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:57.180 it more than the two songs that came before it. 01:12:57.220 --> 01:13:02.079 Yeah, sure. So... I get that. I put in my notes, 01:13:02.100 --> 01:13:04.640 I like the verses with the da -da -da, but I 01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:06.859 forget what I mean by that now. So I know that 01:13:06.859 --> 01:13:10.399 at the time it made like a da -da -da, but now 01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.300 it's just da -da -da. So there's something about 01:13:13.300 --> 01:13:16.279 the verse that I enjoy that there's something 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:20.800 with a da -da -da. I love that. So track 11, 01:13:21.340 --> 01:13:26.210 Emmanuel, God With Us. Um, so I think this is 01:13:26.210 --> 01:13:31.449 an original to this album. Yes. Yes. She co -wrote 01:13:31.449 --> 01:13:33.210 this song. Yeah. What'd you think about this 01:13:33.210 --> 01:13:37.529 one, Lisa? Um, this is my least favorite song 01:13:37.529 --> 01:13:42.310 on the whole thing. Uh, I love the message. It's 01:13:42.310 --> 01:13:48.250 a great message. Other than that, I just don't 01:13:48.250 --> 01:13:58.239 like it. Uh, yeah. I think she's trying too hard. 01:14:03.420 --> 01:14:10.880 Her vocal is not great on this and I don't get 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:14.560 it. I just don't get it. It sounds like it would 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.359 be a song that I would like, but I do think it's 01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:24.479 the weakest original on the album. by a pretty 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:28.619 good measure. And so I'm thankful that it's not 01:14:28.619 --> 01:14:32.520 another cover song. And so I know you got to 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.819 just take a shot and see. But yeah, it doesn't 01:14:35.819 --> 01:14:41.739 work as well for me as the others. I wrote down 01:14:41.739 --> 01:14:44.979 that it felt like I was listening to like Pocahontas. 01:14:45.579 --> 01:14:49.050 That's what it reminded me of. Like, I could 01:14:49.050 --> 01:14:50.590 picture this being like, I don't know, like a 01:14:50.590 --> 01:14:52.550 Pocahontas Christmas or something, where they're 01:14:52.550 --> 01:14:55.729 in the... I think it's like the tree or something 01:14:55.729 --> 01:15:00.270 sings to Pocahontas or gives her wisdom. So, 01:15:00.689 --> 01:15:05.989 I enjoyed it. I think it goes back to anything 01:15:05.989 --> 01:15:09.210 that's original. Like, I'm gonna gravitate more 01:15:09.210 --> 01:15:13.649 towards. So, for me, like, it was really different, 01:15:13.649 --> 01:15:19.449 but I think that I... I appreciate like a swing 01:15:19.449 --> 01:15:22.949 and a miss more than a all right here we can 01:15:22.949 --> 01:15:25.550 put this one out and yeah we'll have just me 01:15:25.550 --> 01:15:29.729 and a piano or something so I think I appreciated 01:15:29.729 --> 01:15:33.250 that about it yeah I understand that for sure 01:15:33.250 --> 01:15:36.689 and so I agree with you in that sense I'm thankful 01:15:36.689 --> 01:15:41.069 that it's here yeah even if it doesn't land as 01:15:41.069 --> 01:15:49.600 well So we move it into our final track now. 01:15:49.939 --> 01:15:57.739 J. Sue's Joy of Man's Desires. Yes, Sue. Yes, 01:15:57.739 --> 01:16:05.399 Sue. Yes, Sue. Yeah, this is Bach, which is kind 01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:09.960 of out of place on this album. I think it was 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.779 it was a very 90s thing to end a Christmas album 01:16:12.779 --> 01:16:16.970 with an instrumental. And so I get that, but 01:16:16.970 --> 01:16:22.090 I don't. And it was nice. It's a nice arrangement, 01:16:22.090 --> 01:16:28.909 but maybe not suited to the album itself. Yeah, 01:16:29.010 --> 01:16:31.369 I felt like it got a little I like the simplicity 01:16:31.369 --> 01:16:34.689 of it in the start. Maybe it gets a little much 01:16:34.689 --> 01:16:39.869 for me towards the end. And so, but I do have 01:16:39.869 --> 01:16:43.810 to say, so my wife, Emily, walked down the aisle. 01:16:43.979 --> 01:16:47.680 to this song yes she did i remember that and 01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.079 so it uh it will always hold a special place 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:53.600 in my heart and so i can't i can't say too many 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.840 negative things about it i mean it wasn't her 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.060 arrangement of the song again i mean i i love 01:16:59.060 --> 01:17:02.960 the i love the song right i i just didn't think 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.520 it really fit the album yeah i agree i agree 01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:11.779 with that yeah yeah i feel like it's um like 01:17:11.779 --> 01:17:13.899 with the rest of the album it being like okay 01:17:13.899 --> 01:17:17.220 here's these covers here's these originals it 01:17:17.220 --> 01:17:21.119 was it was weird to add like to end it with a 01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:24.939 just a really long instrumental yeah and it you 01:17:24.939 --> 01:17:27.880 know i talk about how albums i see them as concerts 01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.560 this almost felt like i was watching a movie 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.520 like this is something i'm seeing the ending 01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:37.680 credits um and it's like i think it's kind of 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:40.920 like with the covers there i didn't like hate 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:44.260 it but i also just found myself wondering is 01:17:44.260 --> 01:17:47.020 this the best way to like wrap up like am i happy 01:17:47.020 --> 01:17:50.560 with this or i don't know like almost like if 01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:53.140 you would have shortened it and then have an 01:17:53.140 --> 01:17:57.640 intro to some song or maybe add some lyrics or 01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:03.380 something to it yeah um yeah um yeah i don't 01:18:03.380 --> 01:18:06.140 know I think we're kind of all on the same page. 01:18:06.340 --> 01:18:08.699 It's just, I know this was a popular thing to 01:18:08.699 --> 01:18:12.180 do, but it doesn't really hit the way that we 01:18:12.180 --> 01:18:15.359 probably would have hoped or wanted it to. So, 01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.979 all right. So let's kind of talk then about our 01:18:18.979 --> 01:18:21.779 kind of ending final thoughts of the album and 01:18:21.779 --> 01:18:26.039 then what we would give it as a ranking out of 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:28.960 five. And you guys have any kind of closing thoughts? 01:18:30.719 --> 01:18:36.279 I mean I go first I felt like it was I enjoyed 01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:40.359 it more than I like expected to Because going 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:44.220 into it I'm thinking it's that mix of early 90s. 01:18:44.220 --> 01:18:46.939 It's Christmas. I guess the perfect storm for 01:18:46.939 --> 01:18:52.439 an album I Wouldn't wouldn't care for But it's 01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:56.340 always it's always a nice treat. I think sometimes 01:18:56.340 --> 01:18:59.659 maybe when expectations are low, that you walk 01:18:59.659 --> 01:19:03.060 away from it being happier versus being like 01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:05.439 something you love and then you go back and you 01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:09.899 don't care for it. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I think 01:19:09.899 --> 01:19:13.680 for me, like it's listening to the whole thing. 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:17.520 I probably have, honestly, a little bit of a 01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:20.680 difficult time listening to just a Christmas 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:24.460 album from start to finish. Because I feel like 01:19:24.569 --> 01:19:27.350 I feel like what we've done, and maybe this is 01:19:27.350 --> 01:19:28.970 not everybody, but I feel like what I've done 01:19:28.970 --> 01:19:31.630 throughout history and our family's done, we 01:19:31.630 --> 01:19:34.670 grew up listening to mixtapes of Christmas songs, 01:19:34.930 --> 01:19:37.350 and now we listen to playlists of Christmas songs. 01:19:37.350 --> 01:19:39.710 We have a ton of variety and we're just used 01:19:39.710 --> 01:19:43.310 to that. So listening to one person's Christmas 01:19:43.310 --> 01:19:47.850 album from start to finish is a little more difficult. 01:19:48.470 --> 01:19:51.689 But I think for the most part, there's a cohesiveness 01:19:51.689 --> 01:19:55.960 to the record outside of a few parts that felt 01:19:55.960 --> 01:20:00.479 like outliers to me that That make make the album 01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:04.420 work pretty well together and it has two of my 01:20:04.420 --> 01:20:10.100 favorite original original esque Christmas songs 01:20:10.100 --> 01:20:14.460 By Amy on it and so for that alone, it's it has 01:20:14.460 --> 01:20:18.199 a warm place in my heart Yeah, Lisa, what about 01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:23.640 you? Oh, yeah, I mean there are I mean the three 01:20:23.819 --> 01:20:27.640 songs. There's several songs from this album 01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:36.039 that are on my Christmas playlist. But the, you 01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.300 know, Breath of Heaven and the three songs in 01:20:40.300 --> 01:20:42.779 the middle that to me are the highlight of the 01:20:42.779 --> 01:20:51.579 album is those three are permanent favorites. 01:20:52.010 --> 01:21:01.369 Yeah, and you know I Think timeless. Mm -hmm. 01:21:01.409 --> 01:21:06.390 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love that. So I ended up giving 01:21:06.390 --> 01:21:13.310 home for Christmas 3 .5 out of 5 What about you 01:21:13.310 --> 01:21:18.670 guys? Would you give it Lisa? Yeah, I would say 01:21:19.500 --> 01:21:22.979 I'm about there too. Yeah, the highs were really 01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:29.520 great, but the lows were a little cringe. So 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:34.439 yeah, I'd say I'd say the same 3 .5. I think 01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:36.060 it's the first time in history I'm getting a 01:21:36.060 --> 01:21:44.739 3 .5 too. That's amazing. Yeah, first time ever 01:21:44.739 --> 01:21:47.600 on Hey, are you listening? So that's pretty fun. 01:21:47.939 --> 01:21:50.729 That's pretty fun. Well, this has been fun to 01:21:50.729 --> 01:21:54.670 dig into this record. Real quick, let's talk 01:21:54.670 --> 01:22:11.630 about our lyric of the week. I've already mentioned 01:22:11.630 --> 01:22:15.470 the lyric of the week on this one, but for me 01:22:15.470 --> 01:22:20.479 it has to come from Breath of Heaven. the line, 01:22:20.539 --> 01:22:26.020 help me be strong, help me be, help me. I just, 01:22:26.180 --> 01:22:28.899 I love that. I think it's so simple, but it's 01:22:28.899 --> 01:22:33.760 so well done. So really stands out. So, well, 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:37.779 Lisa, we are so thankful that you joined us to 01:22:37.779 --> 01:22:42.239 talk about this today. It's fun to have a perspective 01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:47.479 from you who was there in the moment. I was probably 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:51.359 in... fifth grade, maybe when this came out. 01:22:52.100 --> 01:22:55.840 But you were there, I'm sure, listening to it 01:22:55.840 --> 01:23:00.000 right then. For reference, I'm 12 years older 01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:07.220 than Joel. This was definitely... Now, actually, 01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:11.079 by the time this album came out, I was married. 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.619 You know, I grew up with Amy when I was growing 01:23:18.619 --> 01:23:24.619 up CCM was Amy Grant and Rich Mullins and You 01:23:24.619 --> 01:23:29.840 too, I mean honestly That was what we had and 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:34.439 Michael W Smith came in there too, but You know, 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:39.079 I kind of Was listening in from the ground. Yeah, 01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:47.079 I love that and I'm glad It feels weird to be 01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:50.199 as old as I am now, but I'm really glad that 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:56.199 I was able to listen at the beginning when things 01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:59.699 were just getting started. It's a great time. 01:24:01.579 --> 01:24:04.649 Yeah, that's really exciting. Well, thank you 01:24:04.649 --> 01:24:07.189 so much for hanging out with us today and talking 01:24:07.189 --> 01:24:10.390 through this. It's been a lot of fun to get to 01:24:10.390 --> 01:24:13.329 do that together and to have you on. And we're 01:24:13.329 --> 01:24:16.829 thankful for you, for everybody for listening 01:24:16.829 --> 01:24:20.130 and taking some time out this Christmas season. 01:24:20.390 --> 01:24:24.029 We just hope and pray that you are having the 01:24:24.029 --> 01:24:27.510 best season with your family, celebrating and 01:24:27.510 --> 01:24:30.810 remembering. all that Christmas is all about, 01:24:31.149 --> 01:24:34.069 and just the great gift that we have in Jesus. 01:24:34.850 --> 01:24:38.710 So we will look forward to seeing you again next 01:24:38.710 --> 01:24:39.189 week.