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Are you listening Alright, welcome to Hey Are

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You Listening? This is a podcast exploring the

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past, present, and future of Christian music.

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My name is Joel and I'm here with my good friend

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Brandon. We connected over mutual love of some

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particular artists but have some pretty different

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tastes as well. But we get to experience new

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stuff from each other while inviting some friends

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along for the ride. And today we get to do both

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of those. Brandon gets to experience something

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new for him. And we have a friend along for the

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ride with us. Back with us for the second time

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is our friend Ty Garvey from the bands John Zetta

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and Don Quixote's Horse. Ty, welcome back to

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the podcast. Oh, man. So good to be back. Thank

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you, guys. Yeah, this one's really fun because

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one of the things we like to do is. When we have

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a guest on, Ty, we say, hey, what's one of your

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favorite records that you would like to talk

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about? And I remember texting you that when we

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were talking through this and you were like,

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man, I just feel like it's got to be Five Iron

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Frenzy. It does. It always has to be Five Iron

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Frenzy. So this is going to be fun to kind of

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get into. So what album, Ty, are we going to

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be talking about today? Today? This was a really

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tough choice for me. But I feel like the quintessential

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Five Iron Frenzy record is our newest album ever.

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All right. So that's what we're going to do.

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Awesome. So this is their second record. So yeah,

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it's going to be fun to get into that before

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we get into it. I have a little bit of a game

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for us to go through. And so this one today,

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this game is called Desert Island Student Ministry.

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OK, Desert Island Student Ministry. And so here's

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what we're doing. If you were on a desert island

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with your youth group, and so think back, think

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back in time, right? Desert island with your

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youth group and you're meeting, it's Wednesday

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night or whatever night you're meeting and on

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that desert island, you were only allowed to

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play three Christian albums. What albums would

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you want those to be playing in the background

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of your student ministry back in the day? Desert

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island student ministry. So we are we going with

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the years like for me I'm going with like a yes

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your student ministry days. Yeah I mean you can

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pick something from later if you want to but

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I I feel like me now really thinks about this

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but I'm gonna be really honest if me from I think

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yeah about 2020 2011 2012 My friend Keith and

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I were in charge of our youth group. So if you're

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talking to 2011, Brandon, I'll make this really

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easy. Okay, awesome. The end is not the end,

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House of Heroes. We're going word of mouth, John

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Rubin, and I would go portable sounds, Toby Mack.

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I knew that it was gonna be House of Heroes,

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John Rubin, and Toby Mack. How did I know that?

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It's amazing. Maybe if there's a fourth one we're

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throwing in family force five uh business not

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front party in the back But I feel like that

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one is a little edgy for youth group That's funny.

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That's funny ty any thoughts Man, i'm trying

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to think like back to high school and youth group.

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I mean It definitely would have been a five -armed

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frenzy record. Um You can take your pick. Um,

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I feel like the one that sort of dominated us

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at that time was the Proof the youth are revolting

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the live record. Yeah. Um, that one, I'm a background

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vocalist on that record by the way. Nice. You

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can find my name in the liner notes. Um, uh,

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I mean, probably, probably the fundamental elements

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of South town. And, um, I don't know, man, man,

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I might go like, uh, Probably like a blind side

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record or project 86 maybe That's cool and you

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got to meet one of those guys later Yeah, so

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I was I'm older than both of you but Not as much

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older than Ty So I think in my youth group probably

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back in the day the heavy hitters would have

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been one that was We played a lot was the second

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six pence none the richer record this beautiful

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mess Which I think man still just holds up beautifully

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So I'm gonna throw that one out there I think

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I'll put in an MXPX record and so I'm gonna go

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with slowly slowly going the way of the Buffalo

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For that one, because I remember listening to

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that record on, um, like a trip to camp one time.

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I'm a little seedy player. Um, I didn't think

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about this ahead of time either. That's why I'm

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struggling. But then probably, um, the first

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five iron frenzy record upbeats and beat downs.

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So I think that's, I think those are the ones

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that I'm going to go with. So good choices, guys.

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Um, really good stuff. So if you ever find yourself

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on a desert island, and you can only listen to

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three albums. I don't know if those would be

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the ones that you would still listen to, Brandon,

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maybe for you. All right, let's talk a little

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bit about what we've been listening to lately.

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And so I'll start us off and then you guys can

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go from there. One of the things that I've been

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listening to as of late is, you guys know Andrew

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Peterson? Slick Christian music guy. So a few

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years ago, he did a concert, a live concert of

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the songs of Rich Mullins. And he covered, like

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half the show was just random Rich Mullins songs.

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And the last half of the show was a total track

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by track cover of Rich Mullins record, a liturgy,

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a legacy, and a ragamuffin band. which is one

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of my favorite albums of all time. Highly recommend

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it. And so anyways, he did a Kickstarter a while

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back to take this album and they had recorded

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it live, but basically to take the live recording

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they had and fix it up and get it to a releasable

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state. But a couple of weeks ago, they released

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it on a streaming for the first time. And so

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it's called a liturgy a legacy and the songs

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of rich Mullins and um, it's so good. Uh, it's

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not just Andrew Peterson singing the whole time.

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He's got other artists who are up there with

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him, but um, but uh, I highly recommend it. Even

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though my wife, I was listening to it the other

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day and she's like, can we just listen to the

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rich Mullins version? And I'm like, yeah, you're

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probably right. It's probably better, but um,

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but that's great. So I've spent a lot of time

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with that one. Um, for me, I've got two, I've

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been listening to. gable price and friends released

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another single called why do you love me and

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I I think right now they're they might be my

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favorite active band I Really interested to see

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my Spotify wrapped because there's I think it's

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neck and neck between them and colony house Because

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I both it's covered both in this year and it's

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been just on repeat And then the 21 pilots album

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Breach They released I I have this habit of 21

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pilots that usually the first time I listen through

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it I don't really care for it and then it takes

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time to get used to it. Yeah, I think it's just

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because they they change so much with stuff and

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So I've kind of been waiting till I had time

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that I could sit down and really just enjoy it

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And so finally this past weekend. I had time

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to sit down and just kind of take it all in and

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I've enjoyed it. So Good deal. That's awesome.

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What about you man? Man, my things are things

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that uh Just came out today so Young Oceans Had

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a new record that dropped today They're a worship

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band that I've been a big fan of for several

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years now just I think their songs are just beautiful

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and just the sonic landscape they create behind

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the songs is equally as beautiful. Good stuff

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to listen to. And then, not in a Christian world,

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but in a world very near and dear to my heart,

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Jimmy World put out a new song today called Failure,

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and it's really great. Like, it's excellent.

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I'm happy to hear a good Jimmy World song. Dude,

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that's awesome. I haven't heard that yet, but

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I got an email about it, and it was an email

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telling me that there is a vinyl. release of

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that and some other songs. And so without listening

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to it, I pressed by and it's coming to my house

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at some point. I'm super excited. November 14th.

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So I will definitely be listening to that on

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the way home. Can't wait. It's good. It's good.

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That's great. That makes me even the more excited,

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which is so cool. That's great. I love it. All

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right. Well, let's transition in and talk about

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this five iron frenzy record. So I'm gonna give

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us a little bit of a bio that I pulled From online

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this one's kind of interesting So our newest

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album ever is the second full -length studio

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album released by the band five iron frenzy Its

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street date was November 11th 1997 on five -minute

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walk records the cover was drawn by Douglas 10

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napple the guy who created the earthworm Jim

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comics. Despite the band's religious label, however,

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Five Iron's approach to issues was perceived

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as relevant and non -preachy. One reviewer compares

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the effect to the lyrics of Steve Taylor commenting

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that Five Iron Frenzy should be known as the

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thinking person's Scott outfit. I'd agree with

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that. Yeah, I agree too. Agree, too. All right,

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so let's talk about fire and just this first

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time that we've covered this band I've maybe

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mentioned them almost every episode so far feel

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like it's close to And so Brandon is probably

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like what in the world is yeah, so I'm super

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interested to get his thoughts But Ty, why don't

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you kick us off? Like what's your history with

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fire and frenzy? Yeah, so I got One of my best

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friends that I talked about last episode, Drew

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Mellon, who kind of introduced me to the world

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of Christian music. He showed me Five Iron for

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the first time. I think we were on a road trip

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from Nashville back to Jackson. We were driving

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his sister's car from Nashville to Jackson. And

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he put on Quantity as Job One EP. And that was

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my introduction to the band. And I mean, I almost

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immediately fell in love. uh with them and they

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i was already like really interested in ska at

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the time um you know i was already a super tones

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fan and and insiders and those bands um but then

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when i heard five iron i felt like they were

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just on a different level um and still feel that

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way um you know nothing nothing against the insiders

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with the super tones but uh Five Iron is just

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on a completely different level to me. Yeah,

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and just quickly fell in love with everything.

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You know, the sort of deepness of the lyrics,

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how upfront their faith was, but also their just

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sort of unapologetic mentality of challenging

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the church or America or you know, any of those

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things like it was just so punk rock And as a

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guy who was like very into raid against the machine

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before I was a Christian And still it still in

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very much in their age against the machine, but

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like they're they're sort of more Charged lyrics

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like really kind of got me amped up for sure

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And and just made me fall deeper in love with

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them You know, we covered And my ska band that

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I was in, our first band, and We're Not Ugly,

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we covered Where Zero Meets 15, which is from

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Beat Downs. And then we were going to cover Beautiful

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America, which is also from Up Beats and Beat

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Downs. But our trombone player at the time refused,

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because he thought it was like two against America.

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And he was like, I'm not going to be a part of

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it. So we ended up not covering it. But yeah.

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But they were a band that. I just became obsessed

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with quickly and sort of just never stopped being

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obsessed with them or like I never stopped loving

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them. Like there are a lot of bands from those

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days that I put on a record of theirs now. And

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I'm just like, I can't even really make it through

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the whole thing. Um, that five iron is, I celebrate

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their entire catalog. You know, I love everything.

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Yeah. I feel like for me, like the, All the healthy

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cynicism that I have in my life comes from Reese

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Roper lyrics. Yeah, I think that's fair. That

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I was able to learn to think critically in a

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big way because of their music and just being

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able to listen and say there's an opportunity

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to think about things, topics and issues like

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in different ways. than everything that I've

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always thought growing up. But yeah, so for me,

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I think the first Five Iron Frenzy song I ever

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heard was Where Zero Meets Fifteen on a Take

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Time to Listen sampler from Five Minute Walk

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Records. And from the moment I heard it, I was

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just like, this is unlike anything that I've

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ever heard before. And even in a song like that,

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to hear a band tackle homelessness. I'm just

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like, they're talking about things that nobody

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else in the Christian music industry is willing

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to have a conversation about. And they continue

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to do that, which has been really fun. Just to

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follow. So yeah, this record for me, I love it.

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I think it's great. I was, Brandon and I were

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talking a little bit earlier and I'm like, if

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I had to pick, like, this is the quintessential

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five iron frenzy record. I don't honestly know

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if I could do it. Um, because I just love, like,

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I love all of it. Um, and there, there are probably

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like six songs on every five iron frenzy record.

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that I'm just like, man, this is one of the greatest

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songs ever. You know what I mean? And they're

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all good, but like, there's like six songs on

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every record that I'm like, yes, this one. And

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so I'm like, I put together like not too long

00:16:20.779 --> 00:16:22.759
ago, a playlist of just like all my favorite

00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:24.779
Five Iron Frenzy songs. And so like, that's my

00:16:24.779 --> 00:16:28.059
favorite Five Iron Frenzy record. But yeah, this

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is a great one. All right, Brandon, for you.

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This is brand new. Do you have any history with

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this band at all brandy before you say anything?

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I just want to I want to sort of say like how

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sort of scared I am for what brandon's about

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But also just because I feel like I feel like

00:16:44.850 --> 00:16:48.450
five iron is I mean They're they're they're different

00:16:48.450 --> 00:16:50.730
than any other ska band, but they're also very

00:16:50.730 --> 00:16:54.049
much a ska band And I feel like ska is just one

00:16:54.049 --> 00:16:56.570
of the it's like a very polarizing sort of genre

00:16:56.570 --> 00:16:59.649
of music Yeah, but like either you you love it

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or you just absolutely hate it And so, I don't

00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.660
know, I'm like scared that Brandon's gonna be

00:17:04.660 --> 00:17:08.500
like, yeah, this is trash. And they are a little

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bit of a different take on Scott. Yes, 100%.

00:17:11.259 --> 00:17:13.839
They don't sound like any other Scott band. The

00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.480
Supertones and the Insiders are more traditional,

00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.500
like whatever wave Scott band this was. And Five

00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:23.119
Iron's like a kind of a punk sky, like it's got

00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.339
a hybrid kind of thing. But yeah. I'll say, so

00:17:27.339 --> 00:17:31.920
going into this. from hearing from Joel and everyone

00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.680
else. I went into this thinking, oh, cool. I

00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.460
get to see a more serious version of the OTC

00:17:38.460 --> 00:17:41.839
Supertones. There's no filler. There's none of

00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.420
this silliness. I'm going to get like a me without

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you level. Like each song is like you're sitting

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down and like combing through all the little

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hidden treasures on there. So I was like going

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into this album, I had this idea of, oh man,

00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.750
this is going to be No nonsense. But it's a ska

00:18:00.750 --> 00:18:06.410
album, Brandon. I will say too, like, we'll get

00:18:06.410 --> 00:18:10.190
in more into this, but I will say that I listened

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through it once and Joel had recommended, hey,

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I think you should listen to it another time

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through. And I think that listening through it

00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:24.049
the second time through, I did enjoy it so much

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more than the first time through. knowing what

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to expect. So I think that as a listener, had

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I listened to it once, I think there would have

00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.559
been more of a, oh, I did not get what I was

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expecting, but knowing what to expect, I went

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into a lot of the songs knowing, okay, this is

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a silly song. So it's not, oh, I'm up. I would

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say I was angry. I was never angry with them,

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but it's like, okay, I can now like... I know

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what they're going for, so now I can appreciate

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it. And we talk a lot about there's so many of

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these, like the Steven Chris Chapman album we

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did. Like, it's hard for me as someone who was

00:19:06.269 --> 00:19:10.109
born in 1992 to know the full context of an album

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like that. And so that's something I appreciated

00:19:14.430 --> 00:19:17.930
was that having that second listen through, there

00:19:17.930 --> 00:19:22.099
was more of a Okay, I can I see the merits of

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this instead of being like they think this is

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good music. Okay So it's gonna be a fun journey

00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:33.920
Yeah, so kind of dig into this for sure. But

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I feel like that's a I feel like that's the nut

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Not a surprising assessment. Mm -hmm. I'm trying

00:19:39.940 --> 00:19:42.660
to put myself in the shoes of of someone in their

00:19:42.660 --> 00:19:45.359
30s Listening to fiber and frenzy for the first

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time. Yeah you know granted like I was 15 when

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I first heard this and so like the way I received

00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.259
it is very different than I would have received

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it had I been your age that's so true well I

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knew like whenever whenever I explained to people

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I'll say hey you can choose the music and they're

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like no you can put whatever you want to on it

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I'll say listen one of my favorite albums is

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about a circus train that derails and all the

00:20:08.259 --> 00:20:10.839
animals is talking about like life and faith

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and like the girl they liked back in like high

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school and so like you know jumping into it i

00:20:17.019 --> 00:20:18.940
love that me without you album but if someone

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didn't know they would be like so it's a rabbit

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singing to me right now what's going on yeah

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i was about to say there's some pretty goofy

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me without you stuff out there too for sure for

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sure and If we have to think critically about

00:20:35.410 --> 00:20:37.950
this, your favorite song on that Steven Curtis

00:20:37.950 --> 00:20:40.609
Chapman record was Got To Be True. That's true.

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Which is the goofiest song on that album. So

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let's just create some space for goofiness and

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realize that it's going to be part of any Sky

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album. But really just tone in. I think for me,

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I was trying to think through. I'm like, Brandon.

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So one of my favorite 5RN records is what's called

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5RN Frenzy 2, Electric Boogaloo, which is just

00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:07.750
a super... Which is like their fifth record.

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Yeah. But it's the record where they're like,

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no, we're gonna be like a rock band. And so literally

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there's like, there's a picture in the album

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of all their horns, like in a pile on fire or

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whatever. But there are songs on there that are

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like... Super serious like yeah Songs that I

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think like you would you would totally love but

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then there's also really goofy songs You just

00:21:35.619 --> 00:21:37.920
can't escape the goofiness. What was so what

00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.660
would y 'all say? I don't know if this is better

00:21:39.660 --> 00:21:42.900
answered for Scott in general or for like five

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iron or whatever But like there's a lot of comments

00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.160
about oh you should expect some silliness with

00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.640
ska if someone releases a ska album and there's

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ten tracks on there like is it typically something

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where you should expect it to be like a half

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and half of stuff that is a little more serious

00:22:02.009 --> 00:22:05.549
and that is silly or what what kind of is that

00:22:05.549 --> 00:22:11.950
ratio i don't i mean like if i was making a skull

00:22:11.950 --> 00:22:14.170
album is there a rule that it's like brandy you

00:22:14.170 --> 00:22:17.950
got to put at least four goofy songs on here

00:22:17.950 --> 00:22:21.750
i mean i think it depends on the band uh i feel

00:22:21.750 --> 00:22:26.210
i definitely feel like five iron Probably leaned

00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:31.289
into the silliness more than a lot of bands But

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I mean, but there's their serious songs were

00:22:34.150 --> 00:22:39.150
so good. Yeah That it just it balances it out

00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.549
Nicely, I think and in five runs later records

00:22:42.549 --> 00:22:45.430
like their newest record Until it shakes apart.

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I don't think there's anything silly on there

00:22:47.369 --> 00:22:49.950
Yeah, and the record before that engine of a

00:22:49.950 --> 00:22:52.750
million plots battle dancing unicorns is kind

00:22:52.750 --> 00:22:56.359
of a silly song but But outside of that one,

00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:58.740
it's a very serious record. I got you. And a

00:22:58.740 --> 00:23:03.019
very great record as well. But yeah, I don't

00:23:03.019 --> 00:23:05.940
know. I mean, I feel like when I was really in

00:23:05.940 --> 00:23:09.819
this guy, the bands that sort of refused to do

00:23:09.819 --> 00:23:13.220
silliness were never very fun listens to me.

00:23:13.220 --> 00:23:17.160
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So I think there's

00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.460
three like just silly songs on this record. Yeah.

00:23:21.909 --> 00:23:23.849
Um, and I think there are other songs that are

00:23:23.849 --> 00:23:25.710
serious songs that have some silliness mixed

00:23:25.710 --> 00:23:28.789
in. Yes. And then I think that there are a few

00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:31.789
serious songs on this too. And I feel like that's

00:23:31.789 --> 00:23:33.410
probably a pretty good balance of what you're

00:23:33.410 --> 00:23:36.430
going to get with Byron. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think

00:23:36.430 --> 00:23:38.829
with the exception of like their last two records,

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I feel like any other record prior to their breakup

00:23:41.529 --> 00:23:44.109
in 04, like is that's probably going to be pretty

00:23:44.109 --> 00:23:46.630
close to what you get. Okay. So, and maybe not

00:23:46.630 --> 00:23:50.789
as true for like a Supertones or whatever, but.

00:23:50.970 --> 00:23:53.950
All right. Well, I say we just kind of get into

00:23:53.950 --> 00:23:56.309
this. And so we're going to be talking track

00:23:56.309 --> 00:23:59.190
by track through our newest album ever by Five

00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:03.029
Iron Frenzy. And if you're listening to this,

00:24:03.029 --> 00:24:05.450
you're welcome to pull up a different device

00:24:05.450 --> 00:24:08.390
and start playing so you can listen along as

00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:10.410
we talk through this, since we legally can't

00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:14.549
play these songs for you. So track one off of

00:24:14.549 --> 00:24:18.690
our newest album ever is Handbook for the Sellout.

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What are thoughts you guys have on this one?

00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.859
So going into this and not knowing what to expect,

00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:34.500
I really like this as an opener. It got me excited

00:24:34.500 --> 00:24:39.319
about the album and it was a track that I loved

00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:43.920
both times through. So knowing like... What what

00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.759
I was like getting into like I enjoyed it, but

00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.660
also not knowing what to expect I enjoyed it

00:24:49.660 --> 00:24:53.700
And it like it got me excited for the rest of

00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:58.279
the album. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I Yeah, this is a

00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.880
great opener You know just a wonderful song.

00:25:02.259 --> 00:25:06.140
I I felt like I was also as I was listening I

00:25:06.140 --> 00:25:11.220
listen this record probably five times But in

00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:13.900
listening to it and kind of knowing Brandon's

00:25:13.900 --> 00:25:18.519
sort of like, uh, how much he likes openers or

00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.740
how much he wants an opener to be the importance

00:25:20.740 --> 00:25:23.680
he places on openers. Yeah. Um, I felt like Brandon

00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.000
was going to like this one. Um, cause it's a,

00:25:26.059 --> 00:25:28.359
cause it is, it's a great opener. Um, it's just,

00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.259
it's a super good song. Uh, the message of the

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:36.680
song is super interesting, but something I've

00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.359
felt. People like place upon myself but also

00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.400
like something, you know that I've been guilty

00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.940
of doing as well in the past like yeah kind of

00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:49.140
gatekeeping and things like that an interesting

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:53.440
note I had for this song is that The song is

00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.740
halfway over on runtime before you get to the

00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:00.680
chorus. Mm -hmm Which is pretty crazy, you know,

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:05.099
it kind of bucks that Tom petty like yeah tality

00:26:05.099 --> 00:26:08.279
of like don't bore us get to the chorus Fiverr

00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.079
and I was like, no, we'll get there eventually,

00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.359
halfway through the song. I love this song. It's

00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.000
a great one. I think this was like the first

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:20.720
single off the record. Had a music video for

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.400
it. Yeah, they made a music video with a giant

00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.799
blew up King Kong or something. Which was fun.

00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.759
I'm pretty sure that this song was written about

00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:35.700
MXPX. If my memory serves me well, that they

00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:39.420
saw Like a lot of MXPX fans getting mad that

00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:44.099
MXPX was getting popular and thinking like, no,

00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:46.460
this is like our band in the underground. Like

00:26:46.460 --> 00:26:48.859
you can't have them when Chick Magnet was like

00:26:48.859 --> 00:26:51.839
a hit and it's played on MTV and all this kind

00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.759
of stuff. People were like upset about that.

00:26:53.980 --> 00:26:57.500
And so I think it takes a lot of guts for a band.

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:00.660
So you experienced this a little bit putting

00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:03.619
out a second record. This is five iron second

00:27:03.619 --> 00:27:07.319
record. And so this people say all kinds of things

00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.980
about a second album, but it's kind of like,

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.119
this one's the make or break. Like, can you pull

00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.880
off this like second album thing or are you going

00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.880
to have a second album slump or whatever it may

00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.339
be? Um, and so for them to kick off their second

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:24.000
record, basically like calling out their fans,

00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.859
I feel like is a pretty gutsy move. Um, as a

00:27:27.859 --> 00:27:30.240
band, just being able to say, you guys are kind

00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:35.319
of dumb. Yeah, it's insanely gutsy, but also

00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:39.779
like. The song's so good that the fans can't

00:27:39.779 --> 00:27:42.599
help but be like, they can't be like, Oh yeah,

00:27:42.619 --> 00:27:46.019
he's right. Yeah. Also listen to it thinking

00:27:46.019 --> 00:27:48.819
through like immediately when it hits after listening

00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:51.539
to upbeat to beat downs, that the production's

00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:55.359
just like miles ahead of the first record, which

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.720
is really nice. And I think it gets even better

00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.960
throughout their career. But, but it was nice

00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.539
to have a big step up on this. And there's just

00:28:03.539 --> 00:28:06.579
a, There's a line in the song that I love so

00:28:06.579 --> 00:28:09.759
much. Sunk your worth in being different just

00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:13.420
to be like your own kind. And I remember feeling

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:17.900
really called out by that. And maybe still do

00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:22.599
some. So, yeah. Our next track is Where Is Micah?

00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.200
Ty, how do you feel about Where Is Micah? Man,

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.019
this song, I love this song. I mean, I love all

00:28:30.019 --> 00:28:31.759
these songs. So I'm gonna say for all of them.

00:28:33.930 --> 00:28:36.890
I guess my notes on this song is that like the

00:28:36.890 --> 00:28:38.549
first thing I wrote down was like this is classic

00:28:38.549 --> 00:28:41.950
five -run frenzy silliness. Kind of on full display

00:28:41.950 --> 00:28:47.329
here. You know for some reason that like that

00:28:47.329 --> 00:28:49.890
when he starts on the bridge that like we've

00:28:49.890 --> 00:28:51.569
got a roll of duct tape for the next time he

00:28:51.569 --> 00:28:53.589
tries to run away like when you start singing

00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:58.410
that line I love that melody so much like just

00:28:58.410 --> 00:29:01.190
that vocal melody does something to me like emotionally

00:29:01.190 --> 00:29:05.119
for some reason. And then like, and then of course,

00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:07.339
like it just, the line itself just makes me laugh.

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:10.079
Like the visual of them, like trying to tie Micah

00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.259
with the duct tape and stuff. Um, it's just so

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:16.440
funny to me. Um, and, uh, yeah, and I just want

00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:20.299
to say the horn part at the beginning, um, once

00:29:20.299 --> 00:29:22.640
everybody kind of comes in, it's a very difficult

00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.519
horn part to pull off, you know, it's tough.

00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.880
I think they kind of crushed it on this track.

00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:30.839
Yeah. I think it's a great one. Obviously this

00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.509
is one of the goofy songs. on the record but

00:29:35.509 --> 00:29:37.730
they'll do this occasionally where they like

00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:40.210
write a song about a member in the band like

00:29:40.210 --> 00:29:43.009
i think on its quantity on the next one where

00:29:43.009 --> 00:29:46.069
they have the the untimely death of brad yeah

00:29:46.069 --> 00:29:48.930
um which man is such a great song oh man this

00:29:48.930 --> 00:29:52.819
song is so good But Where's Micah is kind of

00:29:52.819 --> 00:29:56.039
the like the birth of the birth of that. Yeah,

00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.440
I feel like it builds into the Untimely Death

00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.859
of Brad. But but yeah, I think it's it's a super

00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:04.900
fun song. And I'm like, there's some things that

00:30:04.900 --> 00:30:07.660
they say about duct tape. And Micah, it's time

00:30:07.660 --> 00:30:09.920
for your beating. I'm just kind of like, OK,

00:30:09.940 --> 00:30:15.319
that's interesting. Brandon, this you love this

00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.980
song. I think this was the first time listening

00:30:18.980 --> 00:30:24.160
through. This is when I I realized, wait, I don't

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.180
think that this band is what I think they are.

00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:36.019
And the second time through, it was better in

00:30:36.019 --> 00:30:39.079
understanding, like, okay, because I told Joel

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.660
that when I was listening in the car, I first

00:30:40.660 --> 00:30:43.700
thought it was saying like, where did my God

00:30:43.700 --> 00:30:47.480
go? So I'm listening to lyrics thinking, oh,

00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.180
this must be some deep deep song about like concerts

00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:53.940
or like we need god like at our show or something

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:56.980
and then i'm like wait who's the mica guy he's

00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:01.980
what um so it it made when i listened to this

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:05.619
i thought i think i would appreciate it more

00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:10.059
maybe if it was um like an interlude between

00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:13.740
ones but i think it's like not knowing the humor

00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:18.789
of the band like it felt It felt like a joke

00:31:18.789 --> 00:31:22.009
that like a gag that just went on a little too

00:31:22.009 --> 00:31:26.809
long I guess like That's that's my take not knowing

00:31:26.809 --> 00:31:31.650
the band and I guess not knowing ska is Is like

00:31:31.650 --> 00:31:35.210
I thought but like it it sounds like though if

00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:39.609
you appreciate ska then it is because like like

00:31:39.609 --> 00:31:41.730
some of my favorite comedians are the ones that

00:31:41.730 --> 00:31:45.509
like You know, they'll they'll tell a joke and

00:31:45.509 --> 00:31:48.529
it never resolves and I think that's the funniest

00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:51.950
thing when it's like oh this is so funny because

00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:56.930
it's not funny um so it made me it I think it

00:31:56.930 --> 00:31:59.230
goes back to the more you listen and the more

00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:01.589
you're in the band because like I was a band

00:32:01.589 --> 00:32:05.009
back in the day that when a CD came out like

00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:07.450
I never bought it digitally because I wanted

00:32:07.450 --> 00:32:09.769
to get the lyric booklet and I wanted to look

00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:11.809
through and like I felt like I got to know the

00:32:11.809 --> 00:32:13.980
band more Cause like Hawk Nelson, they would

00:32:13.980 --> 00:32:16.359
have like a board game with their, you know,

00:32:16.579 --> 00:32:20.240
booklet or you read the little stuff. And so

00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.779
it feels like a band that like, if I've been

00:32:23.779 --> 00:32:27.279
listening to this band for 10 years, I am appreciating

00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.599
like, like a lot more of the little insider stuff.

00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.539
But I think not having that background, that's

00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:37.480
where some of the stuff, it kind of like, um,

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.119
just suffered like a little bit on there. All

00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.759
right. Let's look at track three. Um, superpowers.

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.880
Um, so I, I love, I love superpowers. Um, I think

00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.119
it's probably one of my favorite songs on the

00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.460
record. Um, I was listening to this, um, so side

00:32:57.460 --> 00:33:01.319
take on five iron frenzy, um, my 12 year old

00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.759
daughter, um, struggles to listen to a lot of

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.700
music that I, I like, but for whatever reason,

00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.720
I feel like Five Iron Frenzy is just perfect

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.059
for a 12 year old. And so she loves Five Iron.

00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.680
In fact, she really wants to guest on the podcast

00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.220
when we cover a different Five Iron record. Her

00:33:23.220 --> 00:33:29.319
favorite one is Quantity's Job One. But anyways,

00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.700
we were listening to Superpowers in the car the

00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:34.960
other day and she just kept laughing over some

00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.490
of the lyrics. that Reese is throwing out. But

00:33:38.490 --> 00:33:42.809
yeah, this I feel like this is such a good song.

00:33:43.910 --> 00:33:47.390
Just like making fun of like the whole like band

00:33:47.390 --> 00:33:50.529
thing and like that's we're cooler than everybody

00:33:50.529 --> 00:33:53.690
else. And we've got this mystique and we're awesome.

00:33:54.210 --> 00:33:56.470
Just being able to say, no, we're pretty gross.

00:33:56.630 --> 00:33:59.490
And like we all need to take showers. And why

00:33:59.490 --> 00:34:02.730
do you think we're awesome? Like And he talks

00:34:02.730 --> 00:34:05.930
about an autograph in here and like Reese would

00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:10.130
not sign autographs for people. Um, just because

00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:12.889
he's like, there's nothing special about me.

00:34:12.889 --> 00:34:17.650
Um, I'm just a person. Um, and so I, I just love

00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:21.690
their heart and, um, five iron was the best band

00:34:21.690 --> 00:34:25.190
that I had ever experienced. um in the the fact

00:34:25.190 --> 00:34:27.210
that after their concerts they would hang out

00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:30.090
as long as anybody else wanted to stick around

00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:32.849
and hang out and every single one of them was

00:34:32.849 --> 00:34:34.909
having conversations with people praying with

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:38.989
people like they always were just putting themselves

00:34:38.989 --> 00:34:41.449
on the level of everybody that was at their show

00:34:41.449 --> 00:34:45.070
and um and so i think this song just captures

00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:47.570
that that like feeling about them really well

00:34:47.570 --> 00:34:54.119
yeah i agree i think um First off, I think this

00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.599
song is the perfect description of the tour.

00:34:58.539 --> 00:35:00.320
Everything he says in the silliness of it, I

00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.880
was like, no, that's exactly what tour is like.

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.619
When I was a band that was touring a lot, people

00:35:07.619 --> 00:35:09.840
would be like, oh, you're living the dream. And

00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.980
I'm like, I don't know, man. I'm living the dream

00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:15.380
for about 35 minutes a night when we're on stage.

00:35:15.980 --> 00:35:17.920
It's like another 23 and a half hours a day.

00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:23.199
It was pretty gross. And yeah, I think that's

00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.480
a perfect description of that. And yeah, and

00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:31.760
just sort of their sort of way of like self -deprecating

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.400
to just try and get you to not elevate them is

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.639
a cool thing. I just feel like the lyrics to

00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:42.820
the song, like apart from the silliness, like,

00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:46.059
you know, Reese kind of shows how well -read

00:35:46.059 --> 00:35:50.519
he is, you know, with just like references to

00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.769
Holden Caulfield and Jack Kerouac and stuff like

00:35:52.769 --> 00:35:57.610
that. You know, it's a great song. Yeah, I love

00:35:57.610 --> 00:36:01.190
that the melodies on the song are good. It's

00:36:01.190 --> 00:36:04.429
super catchy. But I love that there's it's like

00:36:04.429 --> 00:36:07.269
this happy, goofy almost kind of thing. But then

00:36:07.269 --> 00:36:09.769
they hit the bridge and there's this like really

00:36:09.769 --> 00:36:13.570
distinct shift in tone that happens and still

00:36:13.570 --> 00:36:18.070
talking about the same kinds of things. But it

00:36:18.070 --> 00:36:21.239
but it's like it's like Reese is like pulling

00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.079
me in and saying, no, seriously, like I wanted

00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.820
to be famous, but now I want to take it back.

00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.780
Yeah. Like, and there's just something about

00:36:30.780 --> 00:36:32.699
that shift that happens. I just felt like he's

00:36:32.699 --> 00:36:35.320
like drawing me in. It's a great, great song.

00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:41.039
Yeah. I think with, um, with this one, how I

00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.920
felt like the other one worked better as an interlude.

00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:47.860
This one, I this is another one of the songs

00:36:47.860 --> 00:36:50.579
i appreciate so much more on the like second

00:36:50.579 --> 00:36:54.539
listen through and um kind of echoing what y

00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:57.380
'all said i always appreciated and gravitated

00:36:57.380 --> 00:37:01.260
towards the bands that were just really honest

00:37:01.260 --> 00:37:05.659
and could poke fun at them or their fame because

00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:08.420
for me growing up i just feel like a lot of the

00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:10.460
bands there was this like fakeness whenever a

00:37:10.460 --> 00:37:13.920
band kind of led into oh i am i am a big deal

00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:18.300
or whatever so like for me I really appreciated

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:22.739
just the like look and like the sarcasm of it

00:37:22.739 --> 00:37:27.000
and I think too it it worked better because maybe

00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.820
like comparing it to the Micah maybe another

00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:34.340
way to describe it is I felt like everyone else

00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:36.719
is laughing and I'm not getting like the joke

00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.880
whereas in this one I felt like I'm I can I'm

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.920
looking and then thinking I get it too I, I'm

00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.239
with you guys. I get what he's saying. And so,

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.920
um, I really enjoy this track. Yeah. Reese's

00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.719
ability to like take what is a pretty serious

00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.500
topic, but make it humorous, but yet still get

00:37:57.500 --> 00:38:00.840
the like weight of his point across. It is just

00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.320
such a gift in songwriting and yeah, I think

00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.360
he's, he's one of my favorite songwriters. Agreed.

00:38:09.539 --> 00:38:12.929
Agreed. How did you feel about the next track

00:38:12.929 --> 00:38:18.369
fistful of sand Fistful of sand I think is the

00:38:18.369 --> 00:38:20.969
first track that I heard off of this album because

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:25.349
I think they put a live version of it on a sampler

00:38:25.349 --> 00:38:28.949
Before this record came out and I don't know

00:38:28.949 --> 00:38:31.170
why they would do things like this the live version

00:38:31.170 --> 00:38:33.769
of this like There were only like half of the

00:38:33.769 --> 00:38:36.389
lyrics were written and so I feel like he's just

00:38:36.389 --> 00:38:39.420
like making noises a lot of the way through it

00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:42.599
and but i still like i'm like okay i'm here for

00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:46.380
it like it's five iron um but it was underwritten

00:38:46.380 --> 00:38:48.380
and so it's weird that like five minute walk

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:52.340
would release that but um but yeah this was such

00:38:52.340 --> 00:38:55.920
a different song than anything on the first album

00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.340
um so when i heard this i was like this is this

00:38:59.340 --> 00:39:03.900
is really interesting um i think A few different

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:06.000
things shine on this song for me though that

00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:11.219
began to stand out. Like one, it showcases like

00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:14.000
the bass playing on the album, which I think

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.199
is so good the whole way through, but you just

00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.579
really get to like hone in on it here, which

00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:26.019
I think is cool. I also like, nobody plays like

00:39:26.019 --> 00:39:31.119
the ska upstroke. as well as five iron does no

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.780
i don't know how unique to them i don't know

00:39:33.780 --> 00:39:37.300
how you make it sound like they make it sound

00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:40.019
yeah i have no clue there's there's i've never

00:39:40.019 --> 00:39:42.099
heard a sky band that does it the way they do

00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:45.920
it everybody else is just like and they're like

00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.119
it's like this yeah there's like there's a there's

00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.440
like a gallop to it yeah it's uh it's very unique

00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.420
for them It is. It probably sounds like such

00:39:55.420 --> 00:39:56.920
a weird note for somebody that doesn't listen

00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.119
to Scott Beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm

00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.099
just nodding. Oh, yeah, I definitely. But it

00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:05.820
stands out as well on this and but it's it's

00:40:05.820 --> 00:40:08.260
in all their songs whenever they they have like

00:40:08.260 --> 00:40:11.340
a Scott beat. But yeah. And then you've got this

00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:14.800
like crazy like breakdown, which is like way

00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.760
heavier than anything they had done like at this

00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.230
point. And you're just like, huh? That's pretty

00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.730
interesting. But I feel like there's a couple

00:40:22.730 --> 00:40:26.010
of songs on this book, on this record that remind

00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:29.210
me of the book of Ecclesiastes. And I feel like

00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:31.610
this is one of, this is one of them. Like the

00:40:31.610 --> 00:40:33.789
message of the song like comes like straight

00:40:33.789 --> 00:40:36.269
out of Ecclesiastes. So it's getting interesting.

00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:41.929
Yeah, for me it's, you know, I just, I feel like

00:40:41.929 --> 00:40:43.909
this song kind of really showcases this sort

00:40:43.909 --> 00:40:48.099
of versatility of this band and like kind of

00:40:48.099 --> 00:40:51.480
what they're able to accomplish musically but

00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:56.599
still like remain in their genre um kind of uh

00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.360
yeah this song's great i love it and i love how

00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.099
heavy it gets um i love just sort of like the

00:41:04.099 --> 00:41:08.380
atmosphere it builds um it's great yeah i um

00:41:08.380 --> 00:41:11.079
the first time through this was like the first

00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.340
time i was like okay this is what i'm expecting

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:17.380
um and you know what's funny is the second time

00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:20.400
through I enjoyed it because I really like how

00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.460
it showcases like the bass in it but I think

00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:29.500
too it made me appreciate the kind of sillier

00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:33.659
songs because then I thought I thought if if

00:41:33.659 --> 00:41:37.780
I would have gotten what I expected like I don't

00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:39.860
know if I would have enjoyed like a whole album

00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:46.070
of just um yeah Fistful of Sand and um so yeah

00:41:46.070 --> 00:41:50.489
I enjoyed it and I appreciated that it was something

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:54.210
different like it was a changing of kind of the

00:41:54.210 --> 00:41:57.329
sound on here yeah yeah I think it's a great

00:41:57.329 --> 00:41:59.909
one all right guys well let's talk about then

00:41:59.909 --> 00:42:02.769
track number five um Sucker Punch what do you

00:42:02.769 --> 00:42:06.889
guys think about this one um what do you think

00:42:06.889 --> 00:42:13.820
about it Ty man I mean, I love this song. I mean,

00:42:13.820 --> 00:42:16.880
I love all these songs, but I think in my notes,

00:42:17.019 --> 00:42:19.679
what I have written down, I think the opening

00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:25.920
guitar riff is just great. And then. This I feel

00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.940
like this song really encapsulates this like

00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:32.579
weird combination of the silliness of this band,

00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.230
but then it also like. Speaks very vividly. I

00:42:37.230 --> 00:42:41.090
mean or not very speaks very deeply to me and

00:42:41.090 --> 00:42:43.530
I feel like there's just a lot of like like the

00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:47.909
lyrics to this song I have like very like vivid

00:42:47.909 --> 00:42:51.230
memories tied to like Like every line in this

00:42:51.230 --> 00:42:52.769
song, you know, like every line like produces

00:42:52.769 --> 00:42:55.809
like a new memory for me. Um, and yeah the song

00:42:55.809 --> 00:43:01.269
rules Yeah, I I love this one too, I think that

00:43:01.269 --> 00:43:04.739
it's like it's one I think it's Probably one

00:43:04.739 --> 00:43:07.780
of the like catchier songs on the album and it's

00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:09.699
like funness. I think the melodies are really

00:43:09.699 --> 00:43:14.360
good. Um, but I, I also just love like the message

00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:18.579
for, I mean, it feels like the, like God's kingdom

00:43:18.579 --> 00:43:21.739
is a place for everybody and for people that

00:43:21.739 --> 00:43:24.179
the world would look down on and say, you're

00:43:24.179 --> 00:43:26.719
a loser or you're left out or whatever it may

00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.400
be. Um, that's that God doesn't look at you and

00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.809
feel that way about you. And I know For me, hearing

00:43:34.809 --> 00:43:37.349
that for the first time, I got a lot of hope

00:43:37.349 --> 00:43:39.949
and encouragement out of it. And so I just love

00:43:39.949 --> 00:43:42.670
the hope that's there for people. I think it's

00:43:42.670 --> 00:43:45.309
a song that when you're going through high school,

00:43:45.389 --> 00:43:48.110
it's super relatable. Because I think for me,

00:43:48.809 --> 00:43:52.670
hearing it now, it's not a bad song. It feels

00:43:52.670 --> 00:43:56.130
like a song you'd expect from a group of ska

00:43:56.130 --> 00:43:58.769
band members. i'm trying to think of how to say

00:43:58.769 --> 00:44:01.710
that without it sounding like it's like oh it's

00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:03.769
like but you get what i'm saying like if you

00:44:03.769 --> 00:44:05.909
were to write down here's what you expect to

00:44:05.909 --> 00:44:10.349
hear on like a skull album sure um and so like

00:44:10.349 --> 00:44:12.670
yeah i feel like it's it wasn't it wasn't something

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:15.730
that like stood like stood out but it also wasn't

00:44:15.730 --> 00:44:18.190
anything that like you know i agree i feel like

00:44:18.190 --> 00:44:21.630
it was catchy it was like good there i i like

00:44:21.630 --> 00:44:25.190
too when songs like have this like natural progression

00:44:25.500 --> 00:44:27.639
So it's not just this like starts at the beginning

00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:29.539
where everything's happy, but it's like this,

00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:31.119
Oh, I'm getting picked on blah, blah, blah. But

00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.619
then like there's a change at the end of it.

00:44:33.619 --> 00:44:36.300
So I always appreciate whenever a song has this

00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:39.559
kind of like story element instead of just like,

00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.739
spoiler, everything's going to be good by the

00:44:41.739 --> 00:44:46.880
end of this. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's this thing

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.159
that five iron does where they blend, um, like

00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:56.559
a silly song with like, a hopeful and meaningful

00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.480
message. And that's such a challenge I feel like

00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.659
for bands to do. And they just have always balanced

00:45:02.659 --> 00:45:05.079
that so well. So I love that one. So moving on

00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:10.519
to the next one. Kitty doggie. I feel like what

00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:11.840
I'm about to say, I don't know if it's going

00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:15.679
to be like a cold ice cold take or hot take or

00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.880
whatever. But the first listen through I was

00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.000
to the point to where, like I said, I was expecting

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.719
it to be like all these like very serious things,

00:45:24.099 --> 00:45:26.800
touching on issues in the world and all. And

00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.019
in my original notes, it was just every song

00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:31.920
was like, I was expecting more. And so it got

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:35.219
to Kitty Doggy. And my words were, I know I've

00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:37.980
just been ranting a lot about how this this album

00:45:37.980 --> 00:45:41.739
is not like serious, but I love this song. And

00:45:41.739 --> 00:45:44.750
I'll be honest, I feel like that's been the There

00:45:44.750 --> 00:45:47.150
are songs on here that like the second or third

00:45:47.150 --> 00:45:49.269
listen through i've appreciated so much more

00:45:49.269 --> 00:45:52.409
but this song from the very beginning I love

00:45:52.409 --> 00:45:56.230
so much. I have sang it so much Which probably

00:45:56.230 --> 00:45:58.349
sounds it makes me sound crazy when i'm just

00:45:58.349 --> 00:46:00.349
walking around singing kitty doggie everywhere,

00:46:00.349 --> 00:46:05.849
but I love this track. So That's so funny. Wait

00:46:05.849 --> 00:46:12.650
till you hear when I go out Yeah, um You know,

00:46:12.650 --> 00:46:14.670
it's funny our notes are very similar. I just

00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:16.670
have one note for this song and it's just the

00:46:16.670 --> 00:46:20.010
word perfect That's all I wrote. I was like this

00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:23.789
song is perfect. Um, I uh, I have a very vivid

00:46:23.789 --> 00:46:25.710
memory of the first time I heard this song I

00:46:25.710 --> 00:46:28.309
was uh, I was in my friend drew melons bedroom

00:46:28.309 --> 00:46:32.110
and you know, we were like 15 and we were listening

00:46:32.110 --> 00:46:35.710
Through this album for the first he knew this

00:46:35.710 --> 00:46:37.650
album, but like I was listening through it the

00:46:37.650 --> 00:46:39.309
first time I just recently become a five iron

00:46:39.309 --> 00:46:43.030
fan and through the quantity is job one EP and

00:46:43.030 --> 00:46:45.690
and when this song came on like I just remember

00:46:45.690 --> 00:46:48.090
rolling around in his bedroom floor laughing

00:46:48.090 --> 00:46:51.929
so hard I like couldn't catch my breath and man

00:46:51.929 --> 00:46:55.119
I love this I love it Yeah, I have one word written

00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:59.179
down and it's yes So, um, I don't think there's

00:46:59.179 --> 00:47:01.980
much more to say about kitty doggie. So glad

00:47:01.980 --> 00:47:05.940
we're on a consensus Let's talk about track number

00:47:05.940 --> 00:47:11.400
seven blue comb 78 Tide love your thoughts on

00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:16.539
blue comb This one my first note for this song

00:47:16.539 --> 00:47:20.639
is so like last song My only note for Kitty Doggy

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:22.940
was the word perfect. The first note I have for

00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:29.059
this song is seriously perfect. Man, I love this

00:47:29.059 --> 00:47:35.519
song so much for so many reasons, but I think

00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.900
musically, it's just great. It's so fast when

00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:44.000
they get fast. I can't play that fast. I love

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.019
the punk rock. Yeah, the punk rock. punk rock

00:47:47.019 --> 00:47:49.500
of it is so fast that the juxtaposition, uh,

00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:50.960
you know, I constantly have the live version

00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.500
of this song from, uh, the proof, the youth are

00:47:54.500 --> 00:47:57.219
revolting album in my head where he's talking

00:47:57.219 --> 00:47:59.340
about, you know, grabbing up, grabbing someone

00:47:59.340 --> 00:48:02.280
next to you and slow dancing and all this stuff.

00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:09.519
Um, and then I also wrote, uh, the line, uh,

00:48:10.059 --> 00:48:13.559
it was the last great symbol of my youth, uh,

00:48:13.739 --> 00:48:17.329
was I'm like, man, how devastating is that line?

00:48:18.010 --> 00:48:22.469
It's like the last great symbol of your youth

00:48:22.469 --> 00:48:25.449
occurred when you were five years old. You have

00:48:25.449 --> 00:48:29.030
a lot of youth left, but you know, there's no

00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:30.789
more great symbols of it after that comb gets

00:48:30.789 --> 00:48:32.750
thrown out the window, which is, you know, it's

00:48:32.750 --> 00:48:36.590
funny, but it's also pretty devastating. Yeah,

00:48:36.809 --> 00:48:40.650
that story of like having to grow up too fast.

00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.539
just because of walking through hard stuff with

00:48:43.539 --> 00:48:47.719
your family. And it's told in such a silly kind

00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.920
of way. But like the loss of his parents' marriage

00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.780
and other stuff just told through like a metaphor

00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:57.739
of a calm that a sister threw out the window.

00:48:58.980 --> 00:49:02.739
Yeah, it's cool. It's one of my favorite songs

00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:07.099
on the record. I also think it's funny that 500

00:49:07.099 --> 00:49:10.820
eventually started selling blue combs, but at

00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:14.579
their shows, but they also were like gifted thousands

00:49:14.579 --> 00:49:17.119
upon thousands of blue combs over the course

00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.679
of their career, because have you seen my combs?

00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.099
So people were bringing them. And they famously

00:49:23.099 --> 00:49:26.280
said at their last show that they wish the name

00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.760
of the song was have you seen my dollar? That

00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.539
choice It said that would have worked out a lot

00:49:33.539 --> 00:49:36.360
better for them But yeah, I think it's I think

00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.739
it's funny I too love like the I love the like

00:49:39.739 --> 00:49:43.079
slow like drama of it in the beginning and then

00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:47.199
just Break out into to punk rock. It's I think

00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.280
it's a It's a great one Yeah, I'm really glad

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.500
that Joel kind of explained the song a little

00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:56.960
bit to me Because I didn't get like there was

00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.360
a metaphor. So I After I guess like the other

00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.139
humor I thought the whole song was about like

00:50:03.139 --> 00:50:06.179
the comb and I was like I just why is he being

00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:09.139
so like Serious or dramatic about the comb, but

00:50:09.139 --> 00:50:11.539
then when Joel started explaining like no, here's

00:50:11.539 --> 00:50:14.760
what the comb means. I was like, oh this is really

00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:23.420
cool. I explained to Joel that I feel like it's

00:50:23.420 --> 00:50:26.599
a band that the more you listen to and know,

00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:31.860
you appreciate more. I think that's almost to

00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:34.400
the detriment sometimes. I don't know if I've

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.980
mentioned that before on this review. I know

00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:40.079
bands are the same way that people say, what

00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.780
song should I listen to or what album should

00:50:41.780 --> 00:50:44.679
I jump into? I'm like, I don't know where to

00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.480
tell you to go to because the band's all over

00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.300
the place. So it's more of like, well, if you

00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:51.079
just have six hours, here's the six albums you

00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:52.960
should listen to up there. Or it's like a TV

00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.420
show that some are good from the very beginning

00:50:55.420 --> 00:50:58.719
and other ones are like, hey, if you can just

00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.340
make it through season two, season three is when

00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:06.900
it really gets good. And I think that that's

00:51:06.900 --> 00:51:08.739
what I got, but I feel like after getting the

00:51:08.739 --> 00:51:11.780
explanation. So maybe that's just what we need

00:51:11.780 --> 00:51:14.289
to start doing is like a Commentary ones maybe

00:51:14.289 --> 00:51:17.230
like y 'all too can maybe sit down and come up

00:51:17.230 --> 00:51:23.710
with like a commentary for each one. So I Do

00:51:23.710 --> 00:51:26.349
I have one more thing I want to say this is a

00:51:26.349 --> 00:51:28.210
small sort of production note Yeah, it's not

00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:31.110
even really a production note, but you Jill you'd

00:51:31.110 --> 00:51:35.110
commented earlier in the episode about how this

00:51:35.110 --> 00:51:38.230
this record was like a Good step up in production

00:51:38.230 --> 00:51:40.969
from the first record. Um, and I don't know,

00:51:41.110 --> 00:51:42.710
I was listening when I was listening to this

00:51:42.710 --> 00:51:45.769
song in preparation, when that kick drum first

00:51:45.769 --> 00:51:47.869
comes in at the beginning of the song, my like

00:51:47.869 --> 00:51:50.010
first, I was like, man, that kick drum sounds

00:51:50.010 --> 00:51:53.269
incredible. Like it just sounds so good. It's

00:51:53.269 --> 00:51:56.690
like perfect. Um, that's, you know, doesn't make

00:51:56.690 --> 00:51:58.750
a difference here or there or anything, but I

00:51:58.750 --> 00:52:00.789
just, it sounded so good that I wanted to mention

00:52:00.789 --> 00:52:03.829
how good that kick drum sound track. And it's

00:52:03.829 --> 00:52:05.690
one of the few places on that record where it

00:52:05.690 --> 00:52:08.929
has the place to stand out. Yeah, for sure. Cool.

00:52:09.070 --> 00:52:12.789
Yeah. We move on to Banner Year. Joel, what were

00:52:12.789 --> 00:52:15.610
your thoughts on Banner Year? Yeah, I think Banner

00:52:15.610 --> 00:52:19.690
Year is great. It's one of like a few songs that

00:52:19.690 --> 00:52:23.349
they have about Native Americans and this idea

00:52:23.349 --> 00:52:28.769
of manifest destiny. Yeah. And and so this was

00:52:28.769 --> 00:52:32.750
a super important issue for Five Iron. And one

00:52:32.750 --> 00:52:37.329
that I feel like, honestly, really drew my attention

00:52:37.329 --> 00:52:40.929
to it for the for I don't know about the first

00:52:40.929 --> 00:52:43.070
time in my life, but really highlighted it for

00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:46.889
me in a meaningful way. And I feel like as a

00:52:46.889 --> 00:52:48.969
as a high schooler, when I started listening

00:52:48.969 --> 00:52:53.269
to them, it's songs like this that gave me like

00:52:53.269 --> 00:52:57.550
a nuance for looking at history, especially American

00:52:57.550 --> 00:53:00.630
history, and realizing that it's not all like

00:53:00.630 --> 00:53:05.380
rosy and beautiful. Um, but that we made some

00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:08.880
mistakes and, um, and it's obviously a picture

00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.159
too, for the church that we've made some mistakes

00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:16.019
in the name of Jesus, um, before, but, um, yeah,

00:53:16.099 --> 00:53:19.139
it's, it's musically not my favorite song on

00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:22.539
the record. Um, but I think the message of it

00:53:22.539 --> 00:53:27.920
is so good. And, um, just highlighting the, like

00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.159
the kingdom of God versus. the kingdom of this

00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:34.239
nation. I think it's so important like a line

00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.599
like, see the empty pole above his empty grave.

00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.699
A piece of cloth can't hold your faith. I do

00:53:41.699 --> 00:53:45.480
feel like at like a formative time in my life,

00:53:45.579 --> 00:53:49.340
this helped me begin to like parse out like where

00:53:49.340 --> 00:53:52.900
my allegiances like really needed to be and resting

00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:58.000
in Christ and in his kingdom. So yeah, I love

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:04.809
it. I love this song. Yeah, I'm 10 for all that

00:54:04.809 --> 00:54:12.710
stuff, Joel said. Yeah, the theme of kind of

00:54:12.710 --> 00:54:15.329
what we did to Native Americans definitely pops

00:54:15.329 --> 00:54:19.869
up a lot for this band over their entire discography.

00:54:21.429 --> 00:54:24.710
And yeah, like Joel said, I feel like for me

00:54:24.710 --> 00:54:28.230
as a young person hearing this, it did a really

00:54:28.230 --> 00:54:34.030
good job of of re -centering me um and uh you

00:54:34.030 --> 00:54:36.750
know that that line at the end of the pre -chorus

00:54:36.750 --> 00:54:38.309
that you mentioned Joe like a piece of cloth

00:54:38.309 --> 00:54:43.349
can't hold your faith um like I just think that's

00:54:43.349 --> 00:54:47.130
I don't think that line ever becomes irrelevant

00:54:47.130 --> 00:54:52.969
um you know it's at least not in in America like

00:54:52.969 --> 00:54:56.369
I feel like it's that's something that if as

00:54:56.369 --> 00:54:58.940
Christians We need to keep it the forefront of

00:54:58.940 --> 00:55:04.800
our mind. Um, at all times. Um, and, uh, yeah,

00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:06.500
I, I agree with you, you know, like this, what

00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:09.480
the song is, if, if the lyrics weren't so good,

00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.719
this would almost be like a skip over song for

00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.639
me. Um, but the lyrics are too good for me to

00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.199
skip it. Like, um, and, and kind of how it makes

00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.980
me, what it makes me think about is, is something

00:55:23.980 --> 00:55:27.300
I need to hear all the time. Yeah, it's too good

00:55:27.300 --> 00:55:31.559
for me to skip. Yeah. Yeah, I I really I really

00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.199
like the the lyrics of it I really like the story

00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.460
they're telling and I think that when you are

00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:40.699
specific with something you run the risk of of

00:55:40.699 --> 00:55:42.840
Kind of like you don't cast that big of a net

00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.460
like I think of house of heroes like I love the

00:55:45.460 --> 00:55:47.980
end is not the end But like there's some people

00:55:47.980 --> 00:55:49.920
that when you say yeah, this is a whole album

00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:53.099
about like people's stories from World War two

00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.900
you're gonna lose a lot of people by being like

00:55:55.900 --> 00:55:57.780
I remember them Tom they were on like the Toby

00:55:57.780 --> 00:56:00.400
Mack and skillet tour and they're like People

00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.219
showed up to be like man. You got Toby's hip

00:56:02.219 --> 00:56:04.119
-hop You got skillets rock and roll and then

00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.699
you've got this like band singing about World

00:56:06.699 --> 00:56:11.059
War two and So I feel like you it's it's a risk

00:56:11.059 --> 00:56:14.039
But I also feel like it is cool when it's not

00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.699
this vague like who or what are they talking

00:56:16.699 --> 00:56:19.119
about? But you can see directly what they're

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.739
talking about. So I always appreciate when a

00:56:21.739 --> 00:56:24.989
band takes that risk Yeah, that's good. All right,

00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:30.010
track number nine is second season. What'd you

00:56:30.010 --> 00:56:34.409
guys think about second season? For me, I enjoyed

00:56:34.409 --> 00:56:39.530
the slow down. I think for me, I put down the

00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:42.489
notes that maybe this is what I was expecting

00:56:42.489 --> 00:56:45.710
a little bit more from the album just before

00:56:45.710 --> 00:56:48.769
I heard anything from it. But yeah, I feel like

00:56:48.769 --> 00:56:50.949
it was nice to kind of have just this little

00:56:50.949 --> 00:56:58.469
slow down break moment in there. If this song

00:56:58.469 --> 00:57:01.849
had a skip track for me, which it doesn't, but

00:57:01.849 --> 00:57:04.929
if it did, this would probably be it. I don't

00:57:04.929 --> 00:57:10.489
know, man. I like Dennis Culp a lot. I think

00:57:10.489 --> 00:57:14.590
he has a good voice. Objectively, I think it's

00:57:14.590 --> 00:57:17.739
great, but there's something about something

00:57:17.739 --> 00:57:19.619
about because he sings other songs on other records

00:57:19.619 --> 00:57:22.059
sometimes and there's something about his voice

00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:24.719
that just doesn't really do it for me um and

00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:27.480
i can't really explain that uh i have the same

00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.119
feeling whenever he sings like a brave saint

00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.900
saturn song on that side project of theirs um

00:57:32.900 --> 00:57:36.559
i think he's good for sure and and i think also

00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:41.079
on dennis songs uh his lyrics for me kind of

00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:46.260
straddle this line of being really really good

00:57:46.260 --> 00:57:49.420
and then also really just kind of cheesy but

00:57:49.420 --> 00:57:51.539
not cheesy in like a funny way just like yeah

00:57:51.539 --> 00:57:55.519
it's kind of cheesy and so yeah I don't I don't

00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.460
love this song but again I love all these songs

00:58:00.460 --> 00:58:03.739
so yeah but this one's this one's probably my

00:58:03.739 --> 00:58:06.199
least favorite on the record yeah there there's

00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:09.780
some cool guitar work that's happening I feel

00:58:09.780 --> 00:58:13.130
like the the slow down kind of the more like

00:58:13.130 --> 00:58:16.070
swing big band like feel of it creates space

00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:19.130
for like some things to like shine a little bit

00:58:19.130 --> 00:58:21.289
but it also probably puts some other stuff on

00:58:21.289 --> 00:58:25.969
display too but um in the in the air of it uh

00:58:25.969 --> 00:58:29.530
yeah i don't i don't dislike this one um i i

00:58:29.530 --> 00:58:34.070
think i like dennis's voice and i think it's

00:58:34.070 --> 00:58:36.469
it's just an interesting change of pace for the

00:58:36.469 --> 00:58:41.019
record It's kind of like a song from like Ecclesiastes,

00:58:41.019 --> 00:58:45.079
which isn't the first time that I felt that from

00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:46.639
this record. So that's kind of an interesting

00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.179
theme that I feel like kind of carries out. But

00:58:50.179 --> 00:58:52.599
but yeah, not my favorite track. But but I don't

00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.059
mind it. I don't mind it. Moving on to Litmus.

00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:58.199
Ty, what do you how do you feel about Litmus?

00:58:59.260 --> 00:59:02.679
I love this song. I think this song is I think

00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.460
the song is a very underrated forever and frenzied

00:59:05.460 --> 00:59:08.820
song. I don't think it gets talked about much.

00:59:09.860 --> 00:59:13.940
There was a period of time where, I mean, it

00:59:13.940 --> 00:59:15.420
wasn't a long period of time. It was probably

00:59:15.420 --> 00:59:17.460
like three months, but there was a three month

00:59:17.460 --> 00:59:19.159
period of time when I was in high school where

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:20.440
I would have been like, this is my favorite song

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:27.460
on the record. And I feel like anyone who has

00:59:27.460 --> 00:59:32.599
ever been in a Christian band or or Christian

00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.719
in a band or whatever you want to say. And that

00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.739
has been told that they're not Christian enough.

00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:43.960
I think can really feel this song a lot. I don't

00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.679
know. I love this song. Yeah, I think I think

00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:53.039
it's a it's a good one. I love the like the punk

00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:59.099
again. But yeah, just it's it's so interesting

00:59:59.099 --> 01:00:02.400
being a band and they're position and I feel

01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.500
like we've talked about this with earlier stuff,

01:00:04.940 --> 01:00:07.679
but being a band in their position and just like,

01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:09.900
you've got your second record, which is probably

01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:13.380
your riskiest record of your career. And like,

01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.519
you're just willing to like tank it all, like

01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:19.320
going after the music industry. Um, but I feel

01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.420
like that just takes guts. And, um, and so, yeah,

01:00:22.539 --> 01:00:24.719
song about Pharisees and the music industry.

01:00:24.940 --> 01:00:27.260
I just feel like, um, it's a really valuable

01:00:27.260 --> 01:00:29.460
and important message. So glad they brought attention

01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:33.719
to it. yeah i feel like um i really like this

01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.980
track and is like for ska with all of the like

01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:41.059
silliness and goofiness you can get i feel like

01:00:41.059 --> 01:00:44.260
the horns really work whenever you're doing this

01:00:44.260 --> 01:00:47.440
like in your face like i think of like oc super

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.440
tones and that was always the stuff that i gravitated

01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:53.219
more towards was more of the stuff where it's

01:00:53.219 --> 01:00:56.920
like you're just like um Being a very in your

01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.280
face being very honest versus the stuff where

01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.139
it's like a calmer. Um, so I I really really

01:01:02.139 --> 01:01:09.519
love this track Yeah All right Track 11. Um,

01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:17.480
this is a big one. Um, oh canada Ty what are

01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:25.179
your thoughts on oh canada? Sorry you just uh

01:01:24.969 --> 01:01:28.349
your computer just kind of froze on me or something.

01:01:28.690 --> 01:01:31.670
I didn't hear what you were saying. Track number

01:01:31.670 --> 01:01:35.829
11, Oh Canada. What are your thoughts on Oh Canada?

01:01:37.210 --> 01:01:44.630
Okay. I mean, this is what I wrote and I kind

01:01:44.630 --> 01:01:48.889
of feel bad about this. I love this song, but

01:01:48.889 --> 01:01:52.250
I just don't have much to say about it. It's

01:01:52.250 --> 01:01:56.300
fun. I think it's very fun. but there's one thing

01:01:56.300 --> 01:02:00.239
I went back and um before the episode like I

01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.460
went back and listened to this record again while

01:02:03.460 --> 01:02:08.179
reading the lyrics on genius .com because for

01:02:08.179 --> 01:02:12.860
me I don't I've never I never read lyrics like

01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:17.059
I just usually I'm not sure of the lyrics of

01:02:17.059 --> 01:02:20.760
any of my favorite songs like I have a good guess

01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.480
as to what they are yeah and and this song is

01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:27.500
this song is like an example of that like I I

01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:31.159
thought for the past 20 years almost 20 years

01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.079
that I've known the lyrics to this song um and

01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.280
then there's that there's that line toward the

01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.659
end at the end of the bridge where he says and

01:02:38.659 --> 01:02:42.300
slurpees made from venison that's deer that's

01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:45.980
deer and it is deer and it's funny and but this

01:02:45.980 --> 01:02:48.360
whole time I just thought he said that's here

01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:52.280
like we have that here and so But then when I

01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:53.760
read it this time, I was like, wait, he's saying

01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.800
that's dear. I was like, that's way better. And

01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:00.900
so I don't know. That's that's like my only note.

01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:05.119
So I discovered that lyric like a week ago for

01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:07.579
the first time. I find that funny because the

01:03:07.579 --> 01:03:09.460
other last week, me and Joel were talking about,

01:03:10.340 --> 01:03:11.880
like, whenever something comes out, I love going

01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.800
and looking at the lyrics and like there's this

01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.820
one band I really like called Don Quixote's Horse.

01:03:17.900 --> 01:03:20.460
And I was mentioning to Joel that I was like,

01:03:20.699 --> 01:03:24.019
man it like this is what makes me like upset

01:03:24.019 --> 01:03:26.019
as well when you have like booklets with CDs

01:03:26.019 --> 01:03:28.139
you can look but then sometimes it's like oh

01:03:28.139 --> 01:03:30.300
you want to like look up there like booklets

01:03:30.300 --> 01:03:32.719
or whatever um so i don't know i'll see if i

01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:34.519
can contact them and maybe see if they can start

01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.199
sending out booklets but um their lyrics are

01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:42.920
bad but um i i like this i think that out of

01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.840
the like the comedy songs or whatever this was

01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:50.260
probably like my favorite um out of them and

01:03:50.260 --> 01:03:53.320
i mean maybe it's just more of like like you

01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.519
going back to like the ones where it's like where's

01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.280
mica it's like you have to know like okay here's

01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:00.059
here's information whereas i feel like the canada

01:04:00.059 --> 01:04:03.900
it's like most of the it's more generic maybe

01:04:03.900 --> 01:04:08.340
yeah for it so yeah yeah i this this song is

01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:12.179
incredible to me and it has no depth or no anything

01:04:12.179 --> 01:04:16.760
to it but it's just so fun and so goofy and that

01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:22.590
guitar line is just like It's so stinking good.

01:04:23.050 --> 01:04:26.289
Like it's too good to be on a record really.

01:04:27.269 --> 01:04:29.550
And so I just, and Reese, I feel like his vocal

01:04:29.550 --> 01:04:32.570
shine on the song really well. And I love that

01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:35.190
like the bridge, like you feel like, oh, this

01:04:35.190 --> 01:04:37.110
is the moment where things are going to get serious.

01:04:38.210 --> 01:04:40.610
And then you get the venison deer thing, but

01:04:40.610 --> 01:04:43.010
it's like everything comes down to the base and

01:04:43.010 --> 01:04:44.789
it's like, all right, this is a serious moment.

01:04:44.829 --> 01:04:51.780
And then Slurpee's made of venison. This song

01:04:51.780 --> 01:04:55.699
has a point in my history where when I was in

01:04:55.699 --> 01:04:58.480
college at Mississippi College in Clinton, where

01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:04.769
I grew up, I was at a uh college dance at some

01:05:04.769 --> 01:05:08.070
point um and i was there with a bunch of my friends

01:05:08.070 --> 01:05:11.929
and i don't even remember what but um we somehow

01:05:11.929 --> 01:05:15.309
convinced the dj to play oh canada um at the

01:05:15.309 --> 01:05:18.849
college dance and we just opened up like a skanking

01:05:18.849 --> 01:05:22.070
pit in the middle of the floor and uh and yeah

01:05:22.070 --> 01:05:24.889
it was awesome so it has a special place in my

01:05:24.889 --> 01:05:29.230
heart because of that so this song did uh form

01:05:29.869 --> 01:05:32.369
Many of my early beliefs about the country of

01:05:32.369 --> 01:05:36.289
Canada. Everything I knew about the country of

01:05:36.289 --> 01:05:38.170
Canada came from this song. Did you know that

01:05:38.170 --> 01:05:42.250
William Shatner is a native citizen? I remember

01:05:42.250 --> 01:05:44.849
the first time the first time we went to Canada

01:05:44.849 --> 01:05:47.289
and Jones that I like the first Canadian I found

01:05:47.289 --> 01:05:49.449
I was like, I have a lot of questions for you.

01:05:51.130 --> 01:05:55.230
That's so funny. All right. Track 12 most likely

01:05:55.230 --> 01:05:58.219
to succeed. Brandon, what do you think about

01:05:58.219 --> 01:06:02.820
this one? Um, I liked it. I think that, um, for

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:06.760
me, I think the second half of the album, um,

01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.079
aside from Kitty doggie, like, cause I'll give

01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.480
that the first half, I think like the, like the,

01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.719
uh, the second half has been a lot stronger or

01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:17.260
maybe it was just stuff that like, it kind of

01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:20.820
like what I expected more. Um, but I liked it.

01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:23.079
I really liked the, uh, the chorus and just the

01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:26.250
overall kind of flow of like the. I guess it'd

01:06:26.250 --> 01:06:28.309
be maybe like the pre -chorus and like in the

01:06:28.309 --> 01:06:36.510
chorus. It especially stood out to me. I love

01:06:36.510 --> 01:06:41.369
this song. I think the melody, I think the chorus

01:06:41.369 --> 01:06:46.050
melody is so good. It's just a super strong vocal

01:06:46.050 --> 01:06:50.010
melody. I love it. It really kind of, that kind

01:06:50.010 --> 01:06:51.650
of makes the song for me, that vocal melody.

01:06:52.510 --> 01:06:56.699
I wrote a note on here. For this song that I

01:06:56.699 --> 01:07:00.380
wrote the lyrics are a bit conflicting. Mm -hmm,

01:07:00.579 --> 01:07:05.179
and I don't know what I meant by that So that

01:07:05.179 --> 01:07:08.920
means anything to you guys I don't know what

01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:10.519
I meant by that. It's certainly an interesting

01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:14.159
song like calling out the most likely to succeed

01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:22.239
the popular kids and so I have no idea but Yeah,

01:07:22.300 --> 01:07:24.239
I think it's a good song. It's not one of my

01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:27.880
favorites from the record, but But it does lead

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:32.639
into my favorite song on our newest album ever

01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:37.199
Which is 100 % track number 13 every new day

01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:41.099
Ty tell us about every new day Man, this is the

01:07:41.099 --> 01:07:44.940
best song Like it's the best song on the record

01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:48.920
it's one of my favorite songs period of all time

01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.949
I have On at least two occasions attempted to

01:07:52.949 --> 01:07:55.969
go to a tattoo shop and get the ending lyrics

01:07:55.969 --> 01:07:59.030
to the song tattooed on my body And i've been

01:07:59.030 --> 01:08:02.949
told it's too long And you know and they've been

01:08:02.949 --> 01:08:04.469
like you got to cut some of it out i'm just like

01:08:04.469 --> 01:08:06.510
I don't have any part of it. I want to cut out

01:08:06.510 --> 01:08:14.070
like yeah um, you know, it's uh Let me see I

01:08:14.070 --> 01:08:17.310
think I think again the song shows how well read

01:08:17.310 --> 01:08:21.369
reese roper is um Just the lyrics are, you know,

01:08:21.369 --> 01:08:24.529
all these great literary references. Um, it's

01:08:24.529 --> 01:08:27.970
beautiful poetry. It's beautiful prayer. Um,

01:08:28.890 --> 01:08:32.670
and then, you know, I loved one of my favorite

01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:35.289
things about this band was when I found out they

01:08:35.289 --> 01:08:39.909
were breaking up. Um, and they, they announced

01:08:39.909 --> 01:08:43.289
that they were going to do a final record that

01:08:43.289 --> 01:08:46.289
they were only going to sell at shows for a while.

01:08:46.310 --> 01:08:48.550
And so I went and saw them at cornerstone that

01:08:48.550 --> 01:08:51.850
year. I think it's probably 04 maybe. And so

01:08:51.850 --> 01:08:55.550
I remember buying the final record at Cornerstone.

01:08:55.829 --> 01:08:58.149
And I remember on the way home, listening to

01:08:58.149 --> 01:09:00.550
it, and it gets to the last song, which is on

01:09:00.550 --> 01:09:03.770
distant shores. And at the end of that song,

01:09:03.810 --> 01:09:06.710
they bring back the end of every new day. And

01:09:06.710 --> 01:09:09.029
you know, and every new day was famously like

01:09:09.029 --> 01:09:12.229
the song they closed every show with. And so

01:09:12.229 --> 01:09:14.050
it was, I thought it was so incredible that they

01:09:14.050 --> 01:09:16.029
decided to close their final album with it as

01:09:16.029 --> 01:09:20.569
well. Uh, yeah, I mean, I, I can't say enough

01:09:20.569 --> 01:09:24.949
about this song. I S I still listen to it. Anytime

01:09:24.949 --> 01:09:28.569
I'm feeling a bit hopeless or something like

01:09:28.569 --> 01:09:30.869
that. Um, it's, it's one of the first songs I

01:09:30.869 --> 01:09:33.930
go to, to listen to. Um, I love it. Yeah, I'm,

01:09:34.069 --> 01:09:37.550
I'm in the same boat. Um, I think this is the

01:09:37.550 --> 01:09:40.289
best five iron frenzy song. Um, maybe that's

01:09:40.289 --> 01:09:42.909
just nostalgia and the moments that it's like,

01:09:43.850 --> 01:09:46.010
I felt like recentered me and brought me through

01:09:46.010 --> 01:09:49.979
stuff, um, in my life, but. The lyrics are incredible.

01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.420
Um, it has the best bridge, um, definitely of

01:09:54.420 --> 01:09:56.380
any five iron song, but I would put it up there

01:09:56.380 --> 01:10:00.100
against pretty much any song, um, out there.

01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:04.539
Um, this, yeah, the song is like everything.

01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.880
Um, the gospel is so clear in it in such a beautiful

01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:10.220
way. I told the story, I think earlier on the

01:10:10.220 --> 01:10:14.800
podcast, but, um, went to furnace fest 2021,

01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.010
the first year they brought it back and no. I'm

01:10:18.010 --> 01:10:20.010
sorry, this was a couple of years ago anyways,

01:10:20.149 --> 01:10:24.050
and Five Iron played. And there's just obviously

01:10:24.050 --> 01:10:26.210
a lot of people out there that have kind of walked

01:10:26.210 --> 01:10:29.850
away from their faith. But I remember Five Iron

01:10:29.850 --> 01:10:33.670
closed with Every New Day. And there was a girl

01:10:33.670 --> 01:10:36.710
that posted on the Furnace Fest page. She said,

01:10:37.210 --> 01:10:40.289
I haven't believed in Jesus in a long time, but

01:10:40.289 --> 01:10:43.510
after watching Five are in play every new day.

01:10:43.510 --> 01:10:45.970
I want to believe again, and I just feel like

01:10:45.970 --> 01:10:49.069
that's the hope that's found in this song Yeah,

01:10:49.069 --> 01:10:52.189
it's beautiful Yeah, I wrote my notes. I felt

01:10:52.189 --> 01:10:54.890
like everything like it was firing on all cylinders

01:10:54.890 --> 01:10:57.770
I feel like it was just like everything there

01:10:57.770 --> 01:11:02.010
the lyrics were there the horns added to it I

01:11:02.010 --> 01:11:06.170
felt like it was a really a really good Like

01:11:06.170 --> 01:11:08.390
ending and I feel like it's it's also cool just

01:11:08.390 --> 01:11:11.840
to kind of hear the story of like oh this this

01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.020
ended songs and all um Because in the past sometimes

01:11:15.020 --> 01:11:16.739
i'm like man This is the coolest song they've

01:11:16.739 --> 01:11:18.640
ever done and then you find out like the whole

01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:23.340
fan base hates that song So like um, it's always

01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:25.899
cool when it's like, okay cool like the other

01:11:25.899 --> 01:11:28.079
people that love the band also love this song

01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:32.239
um, so I feel like you know, it's It's just cool

01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:35.539
when I go back to whenever you end an album and

01:11:35.539 --> 01:11:39.350
you're ending um on a cool note Not only with

01:11:39.350 --> 01:11:42.210
that but also the hidden track in there where

01:11:42.210 --> 01:11:46.770
you stick around um because what's funny is like

01:11:46.770 --> 01:11:49.569
I feel like whenever you buy like a cd or cassette

01:11:49.569 --> 01:11:51.909
You would always like sit around waiting for

01:11:51.909 --> 01:11:53.890
something to happen. But then like whenever you

01:11:53.890 --> 01:11:56.930
stream this now, you're just like Okay, why is

01:11:56.930 --> 01:11:59.090
this track 10 minutes long and then you just

01:11:59.090 --> 01:12:00.609
fast forward and you're like, okay That's what's

01:12:00.609 --> 01:12:03.409
at the end of this and so I feel like it was

01:12:03.409 --> 01:12:05.369
funny just thinking as a kid where you're waiting

01:12:05.369 --> 01:12:07.189
to see if there's a hidden track whereas now

01:12:07.189 --> 01:12:09.140
you just Like, you know, there's already a prize

01:12:09.140 --> 01:12:13.060
there. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's obviously not

01:12:13.060 --> 01:12:15.239
a list to track, but Kingdom of the Dinosaurs

01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.420
at the end is a five hour classic. I would put

01:12:18.420 --> 01:12:23.119
it personally above Kitty Doggy. But but I get

01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:24.979
that it's harder to listen to because you got

01:12:24.979 --> 01:12:28.739
to sit through some silence. My old scab and

01:12:28.739 --> 01:12:31.800
we're not ugly. Had a we had a secret track on

01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.159
our EP that no one's ever heard. It was that

01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.189
was a direct. Was gonna say directly influenced,

01:12:38.189 --> 01:12:42.050
but I'll say more directly ripped off from From

01:12:42.050 --> 01:12:44.270
Kingdom of the dinosaurs, but it was called crazy

01:12:44.270 --> 01:12:49.010
raccoon get out of a tree And yeah, it's great

01:12:49.010 --> 01:12:51.050
secret track back in the days when we had secret

01:12:51.050 --> 01:12:54.770
tracks. I love that Alright, so we've kind of

01:12:54.770 --> 01:12:56.529
walked through the tracks on this one It's time

01:12:56.529 --> 01:12:59.529
for us to give kind of our final ratings and

01:12:59.529 --> 01:13:02.369
just final thoughts to our newest album ever

01:13:02.750 --> 01:13:06.810
By five iron frenzy, I'll go first Just to kind

01:13:06.810 --> 01:13:10.489
of get us started. So for me, I love this record.

01:13:10.770 --> 01:13:12.829
I loved upbeats and beatdowns their first album

01:13:12.829 --> 01:13:17.210
when it came out But for me this album just hit

01:13:17.210 --> 01:13:23.729
on a different level and and it took took me

01:13:23.729 --> 01:13:26.609
just to places that I felt like Christian music

01:13:26.609 --> 01:13:29.890
hadn't taken me before when I first heard it,

01:13:29.909 --> 01:13:33.630
especially with like Every New Day on it. And

01:13:33.630 --> 01:13:36.130
so this one will always hold like a really special

01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:38.689
place in my heart. I don't think it's a perfect

01:13:38.689 --> 01:13:43.350
record, but it is up there for me. And so for

01:13:43.350 --> 01:13:46.350
me, I'm going to give our newest album ever a

01:13:46.350 --> 01:13:55.449
4 .4 on the five point scale. You you want to

01:13:55.449 --> 01:13:59.909
go or you want me to go back go I think for me,

01:13:59.909 --> 01:14:03.050
it's I was joking with Joel that I feel like

01:14:03.050 --> 01:14:06.369
it's just gotten better with every lesson So

01:14:06.369 --> 01:14:09.750
I think for right now is someone who like doesn't

01:14:09.750 --> 01:14:12.010
really I guess get a lot of the references really

01:14:12.010 --> 01:14:15.149
know a lot of the lore of the band Like it's

01:14:15.149 --> 01:14:17.489
it's something exciting getting to dive more

01:14:17.489 --> 01:14:20.369
into it So I think that for right now, like I'm

01:14:20.369 --> 01:14:23.329
gonna give it a three out of five But I guess

01:14:23.329 --> 01:14:25.649
whenever we do like another review next year,

01:14:25.689 --> 01:14:27.369
it'll probably be raised up to like a five or

01:14:27.369 --> 01:14:30.710
a six. At this rate, it will be like a 20 out

01:14:30.710 --> 01:14:34.090
of five in just a year or whatever. But no, I

01:14:34.090 --> 01:14:36.810
feel like it's it was cool to finally get to

01:14:36.810 --> 01:14:41.130
dive into Five Iron and get to like check out

01:14:41.130 --> 01:14:43.310
what they're all about. Yeah, I will say it's

01:14:43.310 --> 01:14:47.470
not my favorite Five Iron record. I love it a

01:14:47.470 --> 01:14:49.970
bunch, but it's not even my favorite record.

01:14:49.989 --> 01:14:55.210
And so But um, but it has my favorite song. Mm

01:14:55.210 --> 01:14:59.350
-hmm. So yeah Yeah, I don't uh, I don't even

01:14:59.350 --> 01:15:01.130
know if I could pick a favorite five iron record.

01:15:01.130 --> 01:15:04.590
It'd be really difficult for me Kind of depends

01:15:04.590 --> 01:15:11.890
on the mood. I'm in yeah but Yeah, I'm So I kind

01:15:11.890 --> 01:15:17.810
of have two ratings, you know the The rate my

01:15:17.810 --> 01:15:20.979
heart my heart rating How I rate this song in

01:15:20.979 --> 01:15:25.319
my heart is, uh, I think, you know, I think a

01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.619
4 .4 is fair, uh, for that. I think that's where

01:15:28.619 --> 01:15:31.420
it is. Um, I did the like mathematical thing

01:15:31.420 --> 01:15:34.779
where I rated each song and then I, you know,

01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.300
came out to an average at the end. And so my

01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:41.140
sort of mathematical rating is a 3 .6. Um, which

01:15:41.140 --> 01:15:44.659
I still feel is pretty fair for this record.

01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:49.380
Like when I think about just like all the all

01:15:49.380 --> 01:15:53.539
the records I really love. Where would I place

01:15:53.539 --> 01:15:55.520
this record? And I feel like 3 .6 is probably

01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.600
a fair thing, a fair rating for it. But I also

01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.340
feel that I love it more than calling it a 3

01:16:01.340 --> 01:16:06.220
.6. So yeah, it's somewhere in there for me.

01:16:06.659 --> 01:16:11.279
That's really good. Yeah, it's a great one, for

01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:13.520
sure. And so I'm thankful that we got to walk

01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:17.619
through this record. Our first Five Iron album,

01:16:17.899 --> 01:16:19.859
there's been a lot of people waiting on this

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to happen. And so I'm excited to be able to get

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into more of them later. But let's transition

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real quick into the lyric of the week. I don't

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think the lyric of the week could be anything

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other than the bridge to every new day. So, man

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versus himself, man versus machine, man versus

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the world, mankind versus me. The struggles go

01:16:53.029 --> 01:16:55.710
on, the wisdom I lack, the burdens keep piling

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up on my back. So hard to breathe to take the

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next step. The mountain is high, I wait in the

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depths, yearning for grace and hoping for peace.

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Dear God, increase. Healing hands of God have

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mercy on our unclean souls once again. Jesus

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Christ, light of the world, burning bright within

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our hearts forever. Freedom means love without

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condition, without a beginning or an end. Here's

01:17:20.770 --> 01:17:24.369
my heart. Let it be forever yours. Only you can

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make every new day seem so new. That's the longest

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lyric of the week so far, but I didn't know how

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to break it up. I don't either. The tattoo shop

01:17:33.890 --> 01:17:35.689
guys won't have it when I tell them that's what

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the tattoo I want. They're like, we can put it

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on your whole back. I'm not doing that. Yeah.

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Maybe the last line only you can make every new

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day seems so new. Even though it's long, but

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I get it. Um, all right. Well, um, Ty, again,

01:17:52.229 --> 01:17:53.949
I know we talked about this last episode you

01:17:53.949 --> 01:17:57.569
were on, but, um, I knew people can find you,

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um, in your current music project Don Quixote's

01:18:00.109 --> 01:18:02.880
horse. Um, you have any single out anything you

01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:06.539
want to say about that? Um, you know, it is a,

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uh, it's a song that I've just kind of felt like

01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:15.640
I needed to write. Um, it's, I care very deeply,

01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:21.119
um, about my faith as a Christian. Um, I care

01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:27.619
very deeply about Jesus and it, it really hurts

01:18:27.619 --> 01:18:37.329
me to see his name used for purposes of gaining

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power or for purposes of You know building up

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a national identity that says others are less

01:18:48.670 --> 01:18:53.449
than yourself And it's a little it's a little

01:18:53.449 --> 01:18:57.069
five iron esque Well, yeah, I mean I would say

01:18:57.069 --> 01:18:59.710
that five iron has greatly influenced me as a

01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.279
the way I think about my Christian faith and

01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:08.479
how it relates to, uh, where I live. Um, and

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so, yeah, it's just kind of my response to that.

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Um, I don't know if I've ever felt compelled

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to write a song before, uh, the way I felt compelled

01:19:17.380 --> 01:19:21.800
to write that one. Um, and it's fine. It's okay.

01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.239
I'm not a great songwriter, but if you want to

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go listen to it, uh, go listen to it. on all

01:19:28.590 --> 01:19:31.050
the things that you listen to music on. That's

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awesome. Well, dude, we're so thankful to have

01:19:34.050 --> 01:19:36.729
you here with us again for the second time. And

01:19:36.729 --> 01:19:39.069
so thanks for taking some time to walk through

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this with us. I love that you love this album

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and that we got the chance to talk about it together.

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And so that's it. That's just a great joy. So

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thank you, man. Thank you, guys. I'm here for

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any five hour record you want to talk about.

01:19:51.050 --> 01:19:53.210
And Brandon, same. I'm here for any me without

01:19:53.210 --> 01:19:55.250
you record you want to talk about. They are.

01:19:55.430 --> 01:19:58.539
They're also. They're they're on my Mount Rushmore

01:19:58.539 --> 01:20:02.560
best bands ever exist. So that's awesome Yeah,

01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:05.140
that's awesome. Well for all you guys. Thanks

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for joining us this week Obviously, you can find

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us on all the places on socials We'd love it

01:20:10.180 --> 01:20:12.800
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