Are you listening Alright, welcome to Hey Are
You Listening? This is a podcast exploring the
past, present, and future of Christian music.
My name is Joel and I'm here with my good friend
Brandon. We connected over mutual love of some
particular artists but have some pretty different
tastes as well. But we get to experience new
stuff from each other while inviting some friends
along for the ride. And today we get to do both
of those. Brandon gets to experience something
new for him. And we have a friend along for the
ride with us. Back with us for the second time
is our friend Ty Garvey from the bands John Zetta
and Don Quixote's Horse. Ty, welcome back to
the podcast. Oh, man. So good to be back. Thank
you, guys. Yeah, this one's really fun because
one of the things we like to do is. When we have
a guest on, Ty, we say, hey, what's one of your
favorite records that you would like to talk
about? And I remember texting you that when we
were talking through this and you were like,
man, I just feel like it's got to be Five Iron
Frenzy. It does. It always has to be Five Iron
Frenzy. So this is going to be fun to kind of
get into. So what album, Ty, are we going to
be talking about today? Today? This was a really
tough choice for me. But I feel like the quintessential
Five Iron Frenzy record is our newest album ever.
All right. So that's what we're going to do.
Awesome. So this is their second record. So yeah,
it's going to be fun to get into that before
we get into it. I have a little bit of a game
for us to go through. And so this one today,
this game is called Desert Island Student Ministry.
OK, Desert Island Student Ministry. And so here's
what we're doing. If you were on a desert island
with your youth group, and so think back, think
back in time, right? Desert island with your
youth group and you're meeting, it's Wednesday
night or whatever night you're meeting and on
that desert island, you were only allowed to
play three Christian albums. What albums would
you want those to be playing in the background
of your student ministry back in the day? Desert
island student ministry. So we are we going with
the years like for me I'm going with like a yes
your student ministry days. Yeah I mean you can
pick something from later if you want to but
I I feel like me now really thinks about this
but I'm gonna be really honest if me from I think
yeah about 2020 2011 2012 My friend Keith and
I were in charge of our youth group. So if you're
talking to 2011, Brandon, I'll make this really
easy. Okay, awesome. The end is not the end,
House of Heroes. We're going word of mouth, John
Rubin, and I would go portable sounds, Toby Mack.
I knew that it was gonna be House of Heroes,
John Rubin, and Toby Mack. How did I know that?
It's amazing. Maybe if there's a fourth one we're
throwing in family force five uh business not
front party in the back But I feel like that
one is a little edgy for youth group That's funny.
That's funny ty any thoughts Man, i'm trying
to think like back to high school and youth group.
I mean It definitely would have been a five -armed
frenzy record. Um You can take your pick. Um,
I feel like the one that sort of dominated us
at that time was the Proof the youth are revolting
the live record. Yeah. Um, that one, I'm a background
vocalist on that record by the way. Nice. You
can find my name in the liner notes. Um, uh,
I mean, probably, probably the fundamental elements
of South town. And, um, I don't know, man, man,
I might go like, uh, Probably like a blind side
record or project 86 maybe That's cool and you
got to meet one of those guys later Yeah, so
I was I'm older than both of you but Not as much
older than Ty So I think in my youth group probably
back in the day the heavy hitters would have
been one that was We played a lot was the second
six pence none the richer record this beautiful
mess Which I think man still just holds up beautifully
So I'm gonna throw that one out there I think
I'll put in an MXPX record and so I'm gonna go
with slowly slowly going the way of the Buffalo
For that one, because I remember listening to
that record on, um, like a trip to camp one time.
I'm a little seedy player. Um, I didn't think
about this ahead of time either. That's why I'm
struggling. But then probably, um, the first
five iron frenzy record upbeats and beat downs.
So I think that's, I think those are the ones
that I'm going to go with. So good choices, guys.
Um, really good stuff. So if you ever find yourself
on a desert island, and you can only listen to
three albums. I don't know if those would be
the ones that you would still listen to, Brandon,
maybe for you. All right, let's talk a little
bit about what we've been listening to lately.
And so I'll start us off and then you guys can
go from there. One of the things that I've been
listening to as of late is, you guys know Andrew
Peterson? Slick Christian music guy. So a few
years ago, he did a concert, a live concert of
the songs of Rich Mullins. And he covered, like
half the show was just random Rich Mullins songs.
And the last half of the show was a total track
by track cover of Rich Mullins record, a liturgy,
a legacy, and a ragamuffin band. which is one
of my favorite albums of all time. Highly recommend
it. And so anyways, he did a Kickstarter a while
back to take this album and they had recorded
it live, but basically to take the live recording
they had and fix it up and get it to a releasable
state. But a couple of weeks ago, they released
it on a streaming for the first time. And so
it's called a liturgy a legacy and the songs
of rich Mullins and um, it's so good. Uh, it's
not just Andrew Peterson singing the whole time.
He's got other artists who are up there with
him, but um, but uh, I highly recommend it. Even
though my wife, I was listening to it the other
day and she's like, can we just listen to the
rich Mullins version? And I'm like, yeah, you're
probably right. It's probably better, but um,
but that's great. So I've spent a lot of time
with that one. Um, for me, I've got two, I've
been listening to. gable price and friends released
another single called why do you love me and
I I think right now they're they might be my
favorite active band I Really interested to see
my Spotify wrapped because there's I think it's
neck and neck between them and colony house Because
I both it's covered both in this year and it's
been just on repeat And then the 21 pilots album
Breach They released I I have this habit of 21
pilots that usually the first time I listen through
it I don't really care for it and then it takes
time to get used to it. Yeah, I think it's just
because they they change so much with stuff and
So I've kind of been waiting till I had time
that I could sit down and really just enjoy it
And so finally this past weekend. I had time
to sit down and just kind of take it all in and
I've enjoyed it. So Good deal. That's awesome.
What about you man? Man, my things are things
that uh Just came out today so Young Oceans Had
a new record that dropped today They're a worship
band that I've been a big fan of for several
years now just I think their songs are just beautiful
and just the sonic landscape they create behind
the songs is equally as beautiful. Good stuff
to listen to. And then, not in a Christian world,
but in a world very near and dear to my heart,
Jimmy World put out a new song today called Failure,
and it's really great. Like, it's excellent.
I'm happy to hear a good Jimmy World song. Dude,
that's awesome. I haven't heard that yet, but
I got an email about it, and it was an email
telling me that there is a vinyl. release of
that and some other songs. And so without listening
to it, I pressed by and it's coming to my house
at some point. I'm super excited. November 14th.
So I will definitely be listening to that on
the way home. Can't wait. It's good. It's good.
That's great. That makes me even the more excited,
which is so cool. That's great. I love it. All
right. Well, let's transition in and talk about
this five iron frenzy record. So I'm gonna give
us a little bit of a bio that I pulled From online
this one's kind of interesting So our newest
album ever is the second full -length studio
album released by the band five iron frenzy Its
street date was November 11th 1997 on five -minute
walk records the cover was drawn by Douglas 10
napple the guy who created the earthworm Jim
comics. Despite the band's religious label, however,
Five Iron's approach to issues was perceived
as relevant and non -preachy. One reviewer compares
the effect to the lyrics of Steve Taylor commenting
that Five Iron Frenzy should be known as the
thinking person's Scott outfit. I'd agree with
that. Yeah, I agree too. Agree, too. All right,
so let's talk about fire and just this first
time that we've covered this band I've maybe
mentioned them almost every episode so far feel
like it's close to And so Brandon is probably
like what in the world is yeah, so I'm super
interested to get his thoughts But Ty, why don't
you kick us off? Like what's your history with
fire and frenzy? Yeah, so I got One of my best
friends that I talked about last episode, Drew
Mellon, who kind of introduced me to the world
of Christian music. He showed me Five Iron for
the first time. I think we were on a road trip
from Nashville back to Jackson. We were driving
his sister's car from Nashville to Jackson. And
he put on Quantity as Job One EP. And that was
my introduction to the band. And I mean, I almost
immediately fell in love. uh with them and they
i was already like really interested in ska at
the time um you know i was already a super tones
fan and and insiders and those bands um but then
when i heard five iron i felt like they were
just on a different level um and still feel that
way um you know nothing nothing against the insiders
with the super tones but uh Five Iron is just
on a completely different level to me. Yeah,
and just quickly fell in love with everything.
You know, the sort of deepness of the lyrics,
how upfront their faith was, but also their just
sort of unapologetic mentality of challenging
the church or America or you know, any of those
things like it was just so punk rock And as a
guy who was like very into raid against the machine
before I was a Christian And still it still in
very much in their age against the machine, but
like they're they're sort of more Charged lyrics
like really kind of got me amped up for sure
And and just made me fall deeper in love with
them You know, we covered And my ska band that
I was in, our first band, and We're Not Ugly,
we covered Where Zero Meets 15, which is from
Beat Downs. And then we were going to cover Beautiful
America, which is also from Up Beats and Beat
Downs. But our trombone player at the time refused,
because he thought it was like two against America.
And he was like, I'm not going to be a part of
it. So we ended up not covering it. But yeah.
But they were a band that. I just became obsessed
with quickly and sort of just never stopped being
obsessed with them or like I never stopped loving
them. Like there are a lot of bands from those
days that I put on a record of theirs now. And
I'm just like, I can't even really make it through
the whole thing. Um, that five iron is, I celebrate
their entire catalog. You know, I love everything.
Yeah. I feel like for me, like the, All the healthy
cynicism that I have in my life comes from Reese
Roper lyrics. Yeah, I think that's fair. That
I was able to learn to think critically in a
big way because of their music and just being
able to listen and say there's an opportunity
to think about things, topics and issues like
in different ways. than everything that I've
always thought growing up. But yeah, so for me,
I think the first Five Iron Frenzy song I ever
heard was Where Zero Meets Fifteen on a Take
Time to Listen sampler from Five Minute Walk
Records. And from the moment I heard it, I was
just like, this is unlike anything that I've
ever heard before. And even in a song like that,
to hear a band tackle homelessness. I'm just
like, they're talking about things that nobody
else in the Christian music industry is willing
to have a conversation about. And they continue
to do that, which has been really fun. Just to
follow. So yeah, this record for me, I love it.
I think it's great. I was, Brandon and I were
talking a little bit earlier and I'm like, if
I had to pick, like, this is the quintessential
five iron frenzy record. I don't honestly know
if I could do it. Um, because I just love, like,
I love all of it. Um, and there, there are probably
like six songs on every five iron frenzy record.
that I'm just like, man, this is one of the greatest
songs ever. You know what I mean? And they're
all good, but like, there's like six songs on
every record that I'm like, yes, this one. And
so I'm like, I put together like not too long
ago, a playlist of just like all my favorite
Five Iron Frenzy songs. And so like, that's my
favorite Five Iron Frenzy record. But yeah, this
is a great one. All right, Brandon, for you.
This is brand new. Do you have any history with
this band at all brandy before you say anything?
I just want to I want to sort of say like how
sort of scared I am for what brandon's about
But also just because I feel like I feel like
five iron is I mean They're they're they're different
than any other ska band, but they're also very
much a ska band And I feel like ska is just one
of the it's like a very polarizing sort of genre
of music Yeah, but like either you you love it
or you just absolutely hate it And so, I don't
know, I'm like scared that Brandon's gonna be
like, yeah, this is trash. And they are a little
bit of a different take on Scott. Yes, 100%.
They don't sound like any other Scott band. The
Supertones and the Insiders are more traditional,
like whatever wave Scott band this was. And Five
Iron's like a kind of a punk sky, like it's got
a hybrid kind of thing. But yeah. I'll say, so
going into this. from hearing from Joel and everyone
else. I went into this thinking, oh, cool. I
get to see a more serious version of the OTC
Supertones. There's no filler. There's none of
this silliness. I'm going to get like a me without
you level. Like each song is like you're sitting
down and like combing through all the little
hidden treasures on there. So I was like going
into this album, I had this idea of, oh man,
this is going to be No nonsense. But it's a ska
album, Brandon. I will say too, like, we'll get
in more into this, but I will say that I listened
through it once and Joel had recommended, hey,
I think you should listen to it another time
through. And I think that listening through it
the second time through, I did enjoy it so much
more than the first time through. knowing what
to expect. So I think that as a listener, had
I listened to it once, I think there would have
been more of a, oh, I did not get what I was
expecting, but knowing what to expect, I went
into a lot of the songs knowing, okay, this is
a silly song. So it's not, oh, I'm up. I would
say I was angry. I was never angry with them,
but it's like, okay, I can now like... I know
what they're going for, so now I can appreciate
it. And we talk a lot about there's so many of
these, like the Steven Chris Chapman album we
did. Like, it's hard for me as someone who was
born in 1992 to know the full context of an album
like that. And so that's something I appreciated
was that having that second listen through, there
was more of a Okay, I can I see the merits of
this instead of being like they think this is
good music. Okay So it's gonna be a fun journey
Yeah, so kind of dig into this for sure. But
I feel like that's a I feel like that's the nut
Not a surprising assessment. Mm -hmm. I'm trying
to put myself in the shoes of of someone in their
30s Listening to fiber and frenzy for the first
time. Yeah you know granted like I was 15 when
I first heard this and so like the way I received
it is very different than I would have received
it had I been your age that's so true well I
knew like whenever whenever I explained to people
I'll say hey you can choose the music and they're
like no you can put whatever you want to on it
I'll say listen one of my favorite albums is
about a circus train that derails and all the
animals is talking about like life and faith
and like the girl they liked back in like high
school and so like you know jumping into it i
love that me without you album but if someone
didn't know they would be like so it's a rabbit
singing to me right now what's going on yeah
i was about to say there's some pretty goofy
me without you stuff out there too for sure for
sure and If we have to think critically about
this, your favorite song on that Steven Curtis
Chapman record was Got To Be True. That's true.
Which is the goofiest song on that album. So
let's just create some space for goofiness and
realize that it's going to be part of any Sky
album. But really just tone in. I think for me,
I was trying to think through. I'm like, Brandon.
So one of my favorite 5RN records is what's called
5RN Frenzy 2, Electric Boogaloo, which is just
a super... Which is like their fifth record.
Yeah. But it's the record where they're like,
no, we're gonna be like a rock band. And so literally
there's like, there's a picture in the album
of all their horns, like in a pile on fire or
whatever. But there are songs on there that are
like... Super serious like yeah Songs that I
think like you would you would totally love but
then there's also really goofy songs You just
can't escape the goofiness. What was so what
would y 'all say? I don't know if this is better
answered for Scott in general or for like five
iron or whatever But like there's a lot of comments
about oh you should expect some silliness with
ska if someone releases a ska album and there's
ten tracks on there like is it typically something
where you should expect it to be like a half
and half of stuff that is a little more serious
and that is silly or what what kind of is that
ratio i don't i mean like if i was making a skull
album is there a rule that it's like brandy you
got to put at least four goofy songs on here
i mean i think it depends on the band uh i feel
i definitely feel like five iron Probably leaned
into the silliness more than a lot of bands But
I mean, but there's their serious songs were
so good. Yeah That it just it balances it out
Nicely, I think and in five runs later records
like their newest record Until it shakes apart.
I don't think there's anything silly on there
Yeah, and the record before that engine of a
million plots battle dancing unicorns is kind
of a silly song but But outside of that one,
it's a very serious record. I got you. And a
very great record as well. But yeah, I don't
know. I mean, I feel like when I was really in
this guy, the bands that sort of refused to do
silliness were never very fun listens to me.
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So I think there's
three like just silly songs on this record. Yeah.
Um, and I think there are other songs that are
serious songs that have some silliness mixed
in. Yes. And then I think that there are a few
serious songs on this too. And I feel like that's
probably a pretty good balance of what you're
going to get with Byron. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think
with the exception of like their last two records,
I feel like any other record prior to their breakup
in 04, like is that's probably going to be pretty
close to what you get. Okay. So, and maybe not
as true for like a Supertones or whatever, but.
All right. Well, I say we just kind of get into
this. And so we're going to be talking track
by track through our newest album ever by Five
Iron Frenzy. And if you're listening to this,
you're welcome to pull up a different device
and start playing so you can listen along as
we talk through this, since we legally can't
play these songs for you. So track one off of
our newest album ever is Handbook for the Sellout.
What are thoughts you guys have on this one?
So going into this and not knowing what to expect,
I really like this as an opener. It got me excited
about the album and it was a track that I loved
both times through. So knowing like... What what
I was like getting into like I enjoyed it, but
also not knowing what to expect I enjoyed it
And it like it got me excited for the rest of
the album. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I Yeah, this is a
great opener You know just a wonderful song.
I I felt like I was also as I was listening I
listen this record probably five times But in
listening to it and kind of knowing Brandon's
sort of like, uh, how much he likes openers or
how much he wants an opener to be the importance
he places on openers. Yeah. Um, I felt like Brandon
was going to like this one. Um, cause it's a,
cause it is, it's a great opener. Um, it's just,
it's a super good song. Uh, the message of the
song is super interesting, but something I've
felt. People like place upon myself but also
like something, you know that I've been guilty
of doing as well in the past like yeah kind of
gatekeeping and things like that an interesting
note I had for this song is that The song is
halfway over on runtime before you get to the
chorus. Mm -hmm Which is pretty crazy, you know,
it kind of bucks that Tom petty like yeah tality
of like don't bore us get to the chorus Fiverr
and I was like, no, we'll get there eventually,
halfway through the song. I love this song. It's
a great one. I think this was like the first
single off the record. Had a music video for
it. Yeah, they made a music video with a giant
blew up King Kong or something. Which was fun.
I'm pretty sure that this song was written about
MXPX. If my memory serves me well, that they
saw Like a lot of MXPX fans getting mad that
MXPX was getting popular and thinking like, no,
this is like our band in the underground. Like
you can't have them when Chick Magnet was like
a hit and it's played on MTV and all this kind
of stuff. People were like upset about that.
And so I think it takes a lot of guts for a band.
So you experienced this a little bit putting
out a second record. This is five iron second
record. And so this people say all kinds of things
about a second album, but it's kind of like,
this one's the make or break. Like, can you pull
off this like second album thing or are you going
to have a second album slump or whatever it may
be? Um, and so for them to kick off their second
record, basically like calling out their fans,
I feel like is a pretty gutsy move. Um, as a
band, just being able to say, you guys are kind
of dumb. Yeah, it's insanely gutsy, but also
like. The song's so good that the fans can't
help but be like, they can't be like, Oh yeah,
he's right. Yeah. Also listen to it thinking
through like immediately when it hits after listening
to upbeat to beat downs, that the production's
just like miles ahead of the first record, which
is really nice. And I think it gets even better
throughout their career. But, but it was nice
to have a big step up on this. And there's just
a, There's a line in the song that I love so
much. Sunk your worth in being different just
to be like your own kind. And I remember feeling
really called out by that. And maybe still do
some. So, yeah. Our next track is Where Is Micah?
Ty, how do you feel about Where Is Micah? Man,
this song, I love this song. I mean, I love all
these songs. So I'm gonna say for all of them.
I guess my notes on this song is that like the
first thing I wrote down was like this is classic
five -run frenzy silliness. Kind of on full display
here. You know for some reason that like that
when he starts on the bridge that like we've
got a roll of duct tape for the next time he
tries to run away like when you start singing
that line I love that melody so much like just
that vocal melody does something to me like emotionally
for some reason. And then like, and then of course,
like it just, the line itself just makes me laugh.
Like the visual of them, like trying to tie Micah
with the duct tape and stuff. Um, it's just so
funny to me. Um, and, uh, yeah, and I just want
to say the horn part at the beginning, um, once
everybody kind of comes in, it's a very difficult
horn part to pull off, you know, it's tough.
I think they kind of crushed it on this track.
Yeah. I think it's a great one. Obviously this
is one of the goofy songs. on the record but
they'll do this occasionally where they like
write a song about a member in the band like
i think on its quantity on the next one where
they have the the untimely death of brad yeah
um which man is such a great song oh man this
song is so good But Where's Micah is kind of
the like the birth of the birth of that. Yeah,
I feel like it builds into the Untimely Death
of Brad. But but yeah, I think it's it's a super
fun song. And I'm like, there's some things that
they say about duct tape. And Micah, it's time
for your beating. I'm just kind of like, OK,
that's interesting. Brandon, this you love this
song. I think this was the first time listening
through. This is when I I realized, wait, I don't
think that this band is what I think they are.
And the second time through, it was better in
understanding, like, okay, because I told Joel
that when I was listening in the car, I first
thought it was saying like, where did my God
go? So I'm listening to lyrics thinking, oh,
this must be some deep deep song about like concerts
or like we need god like at our show or something
and then i'm like wait who's the mica guy he's
what um so it it made when i listened to this
i thought i think i would appreciate it more
maybe if it was um like an interlude between
ones but i think it's like not knowing the humor
of the band like it felt It felt like a joke
that like a gag that just went on a little too
long I guess like That's that's my take not knowing
the band and I guess not knowing ska is Is like
I thought but like it it sounds like though if
you appreciate ska then it is because like like
some of my favorite comedians are the ones that
like You know, they'll they'll tell a joke and
it never resolves and I think that's the funniest
thing when it's like oh this is so funny because
it's not funny um so it made me it I think it
goes back to the more you listen and the more
you're in the band because like I was a band
back in the day that when a CD came out like
I never bought it digitally because I wanted
to get the lyric booklet and I wanted to look
through and like I felt like I got to know the
band more Cause like Hawk Nelson, they would
have like a board game with their, you know,
booklet or you read the little stuff. And so
it feels like a band that like, if I've been
listening to this band for 10 years, I am appreciating
like, like a lot more of the little insider stuff.
But I think not having that background, that's
where some of the stuff, it kind of like, um,
just suffered like a little bit on there. All
right. Let's look at track three. Um, superpowers.
Um, so I, I love, I love superpowers. Um, I think
it's probably one of my favorite songs on the
record. Um, I was listening to this, um, so side
take on five iron frenzy, um, my 12 year old
daughter, um, struggles to listen to a lot of
music that I, I like, but for whatever reason,
I feel like Five Iron Frenzy is just perfect
for a 12 year old. And so she loves Five Iron.
In fact, she really wants to guest on the podcast
when we cover a different Five Iron record. Her
favorite one is Quantity's Job One. But anyways,
we were listening to Superpowers in the car the
other day and she just kept laughing over some
of the lyrics. that Reese is throwing out. But
yeah, this I feel like this is such a good song.
Just like making fun of like the whole like band
thing and like that's we're cooler than everybody
else. And we've got this mystique and we're awesome.
Just being able to say, no, we're pretty gross.
And like we all need to take showers. And why
do you think we're awesome? Like And he talks
about an autograph in here and like Reese would
not sign autographs for people. Um, just because
he's like, there's nothing special about me.
Um, I'm just a person. Um, and so I, I just love
their heart and, um, five iron was the best band
that I had ever experienced. um in the the fact
that after their concerts they would hang out
as long as anybody else wanted to stick around
and hang out and every single one of them was
having conversations with people praying with
people like they always were just putting themselves
on the level of everybody that was at their show
and um and so i think this song just captures
that that like feeling about them really well
yeah i agree i think um First off, I think this
song is the perfect description of the tour.
Everything he says in the silliness of it, I
was like, no, that's exactly what tour is like.
When I was a band that was touring a lot, people
would be like, oh, you're living the dream. And
I'm like, I don't know, man. I'm living the dream
for about 35 minutes a night when we're on stage.
It's like another 23 and a half hours a day.
It was pretty gross. And yeah, I think that's
a perfect description of that. And yeah, and
just sort of their sort of way of like self -deprecating
to just try and get you to not elevate them is
a cool thing. I just feel like the lyrics to
the song, like apart from the silliness, like,
you know, Reese kind of shows how well -read
he is, you know, with just like references to
Holden Caulfield and Jack Kerouac and stuff like
that. You know, it's a great song. Yeah, I love
that the melodies on the song are good. It's
super catchy. But I love that there's it's like
this happy, goofy almost kind of thing. But then
they hit the bridge and there's this like really
distinct shift in tone that happens and still
talking about the same kinds of things. But it
but it's like it's like Reese is like pulling
me in and saying, no, seriously, like I wanted
to be famous, but now I want to take it back.
Yeah. Like, and there's just something about
that shift that happens. I just felt like he's
like drawing me in. It's a great, great song.
Yeah. I think with, um, with this one, how I
felt like the other one worked better as an interlude.
This one, I this is another one of the songs
i appreciate so much more on the like second
listen through and um kind of echoing what y
'all said i always appreciated and gravitated
towards the bands that were just really honest
and could poke fun at them or their fame because
for me growing up i just feel like a lot of the
bands there was this like fakeness whenever a
band kind of led into oh i am i am a big deal
or whatever so like for me I really appreciated
just the like look and like the sarcasm of it
and I think too it it worked better because maybe
like comparing it to the Micah maybe another
way to describe it is I felt like everyone else
is laughing and I'm not getting like the joke
whereas in this one I felt like I'm I can I'm
looking and then thinking I get it too I, I'm
with you guys. I get what he's saying. And so,
um, I really enjoy this track. Yeah. Reese's
ability to like take what is a pretty serious
topic, but make it humorous, but yet still get
the like weight of his point across. It is just
such a gift in songwriting and yeah, I think
he's, he's one of my favorite songwriters. Agreed.
Agreed. How did you feel about the next track
fistful of sand Fistful of sand I think is the
first track that I heard off of this album because
I think they put a live version of it on a sampler
Before this record came out and I don't know
why they would do things like this the live version
of this like There were only like half of the
lyrics were written and so I feel like he's just
like making noises a lot of the way through it
and but i still like i'm like okay i'm here for
it like it's five iron um but it was underwritten
and so it's weird that like five minute walk
would release that but um but yeah this was such
a different song than anything on the first album
um so when i heard this i was like this is this
is really interesting um i think A few different
things shine on this song for me though that
began to stand out. Like one, it showcases like
the bass playing on the album, which I think
is so good the whole way through, but you just
really get to like hone in on it here, which
I think is cool. I also like, nobody plays like
the ska upstroke. as well as five iron does no
i don't know how unique to them i don't know
how you make it sound like they make it sound
yeah i have no clue there's there's i've never
heard a sky band that does it the way they do
it everybody else is just like and they're like
it's like this yeah there's like there's a there's
like a gallop to it yeah it's uh it's very unique
for them It is. It probably sounds like such
a weird note for somebody that doesn't listen
to Scott Beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm
just nodding. Oh, yeah, I definitely. But it
stands out as well on this and but it's it's
in all their songs whenever they they have like
a Scott beat. But yeah. And then you've got this
like crazy like breakdown, which is like way
heavier than anything they had done like at this
point. And you're just like, huh? That's pretty
interesting. But I feel like there's a couple
of songs on this book, on this record that remind
me of the book of Ecclesiastes. And I feel like
this is one of, this is one of them. Like the
message of the song like comes like straight
out of Ecclesiastes. So it's getting interesting.
Yeah, for me it's, you know, I just, I feel like
this song kind of really showcases this sort
of versatility of this band and like kind of
what they're able to accomplish musically but
still like remain in their genre um kind of uh
yeah this song's great i love it and i love how
heavy it gets um i love just sort of like the
atmosphere it builds um it's great yeah i um
the first time through this was like the first
time i was like okay this is what i'm expecting
um and you know what's funny is the second time
through I enjoyed it because I really like how
it showcases like the bass in it but I think
too it made me appreciate the kind of sillier
songs because then I thought I thought if if
I would have gotten what I expected like I don't
know if I would have enjoyed like a whole album
of just um yeah Fistful of Sand and um so yeah
I enjoyed it and I appreciated that it was something
different like it was a changing of kind of the
sound on here yeah yeah I think it's a great
one all right guys well let's talk about then
track number five um Sucker Punch what do you
guys think about this one um what do you think
about it Ty man I mean, I love this song. I mean,
I love all these songs, but I think in my notes,
what I have written down, I think the opening
guitar riff is just great. And then. This I feel
like this song really encapsulates this like
weird combination of the silliness of this band,
but then it also like. Speaks very vividly. I
mean or not very speaks very deeply to me and
I feel like there's just a lot of like like the
lyrics to this song I have like very like vivid
memories tied to like Like every line in this
song, you know, like every line like produces
like a new memory for me. Um, and yeah the song
rules Yeah, I I love this one too, I think that
it's like it's one I think it's Probably one
of the like catchier songs on the album and it's
like funness. I think the melodies are really
good. Um, but I, I also just love like the message
for, I mean, it feels like the, like God's kingdom
is a place for everybody and for people that
the world would look down on and say, you're
a loser or you're left out or whatever it may
be. Um, that's that God doesn't look at you and
feel that way about you. And I know For me, hearing
that for the first time, I got a lot of hope
and encouragement out of it. And so I just love
the hope that's there for people. I think it's
a song that when you're going through high school,
it's super relatable. Because I think for me,
hearing it now, it's not a bad song. It feels
like a song you'd expect from a group of ska
band members. i'm trying to think of how to say
that without it sounding like it's like oh it's
like but you get what i'm saying like if you
were to write down here's what you expect to
hear on like a skull album sure um and so like
yeah i feel like it's it wasn't it wasn't something
that like stood like stood out but it also wasn't
anything that like you know i agree i feel like
it was catchy it was like good there i i like
too when songs like have this like natural progression
So it's not just this like starts at the beginning
where everything's happy, but it's like this,
Oh, I'm getting picked on blah, blah, blah. But
then like there's a change at the end of it.
So I always appreciate whenever a song has this
kind of like story element instead of just like,
spoiler, everything's going to be good by the
end of this. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's this thing
that five iron does where they blend, um, like
a silly song with like, a hopeful and meaningful
message. And that's such a challenge I feel like
for bands to do. And they just have always balanced
that so well. So I love that one. So moving on
to the next one. Kitty doggie. I feel like what
I'm about to say, I don't know if it's going
to be like a cold ice cold take or hot take or
whatever. But the first listen through I was
to the point to where, like I said, I was expecting
it to be like all these like very serious things,
touching on issues in the world and all. And
in my original notes, it was just every song
was like, I was expecting more. And so it got
to Kitty Doggy. And my words were, I know I've
just been ranting a lot about how this this album
is not like serious, but I love this song. And
I'll be honest, I feel like that's been the There
are songs on here that like the second or third
listen through i've appreciated so much more
but this song from the very beginning I love
so much. I have sang it so much Which probably
sounds it makes me sound crazy when i'm just
walking around singing kitty doggie everywhere,
but I love this track. So That's so funny. Wait
till you hear when I go out Yeah, um You know,
it's funny our notes are very similar. I just
have one note for this song and it's just the
word perfect That's all I wrote. I was like this
song is perfect. Um, I uh, I have a very vivid
memory of the first time I heard this song I
was uh, I was in my friend drew melons bedroom
and you know, we were like 15 and we were listening
Through this album for the first he knew this
album, but like I was listening through it the
first time I just recently become a five iron
fan and through the quantity is job one EP and
and when this song came on like I just remember
rolling around in his bedroom floor laughing
so hard I like couldn't catch my breath and man
I love this I love it Yeah, I have one word written
down and it's yes So, um, I don't think there's
much more to say about kitty doggie. So glad
we're on a consensus Let's talk about track number
seven blue comb 78 Tide love your thoughts on
blue comb This one my first note for this song
is so like last song My only note for Kitty Doggy
was the word perfect. The first note I have for
this song is seriously perfect. Man, I love this
song so much for so many reasons, but I think
musically, it's just great. It's so fast when
they get fast. I can't play that fast. I love
the punk rock. Yeah, the punk rock. punk rock
of it is so fast that the juxtaposition, uh,
you know, I constantly have the live version
of this song from, uh, the proof, the youth are
revolting album in my head where he's talking
about, you know, grabbing up, grabbing someone
next to you and slow dancing and all this stuff.
Um, and then I also wrote, uh, the line, uh,
it was the last great symbol of my youth, uh,
was I'm like, man, how devastating is that line?
It's like the last great symbol of your youth
occurred when you were five years old. You have
a lot of youth left, but you know, there's no
more great symbols of it after that comb gets
thrown out the window, which is, you know, it's
funny, but it's also pretty devastating. Yeah,
that story of like having to grow up too fast.
just because of walking through hard stuff with
your family. And it's told in such a silly kind
of way. But like the loss of his parents' marriage
and other stuff just told through like a metaphor
of a calm that a sister threw out the window.
Yeah, it's cool. It's one of my favorite songs
on the record. I also think it's funny that 500
eventually started selling blue combs, but at
their shows, but they also were like gifted thousands
upon thousands of blue combs over the course
of their career, because have you seen my combs?
So people were bringing them. And they famously
said at their last show that they wish the name
of the song was have you seen my dollar? That
choice It said that would have worked out a lot
better for them But yeah, I think it's I think
it's funny I too love like the I love the like
slow like drama of it in the beginning and then
just Break out into to punk rock. It's I think
it's a It's a great one Yeah, I'm really glad
that Joel kind of explained the song a little
bit to me Because I didn't get like there was
a metaphor. So I After I guess like the other
humor I thought the whole song was about like
the comb and I was like I just why is he being
so like Serious or dramatic about the comb, but
then when Joel started explaining like no, here's
what the comb means. I was like, oh this is really
cool. I explained to Joel that I feel like it's
a band that the more you listen to and know,
you appreciate more. I think that's almost to
the detriment sometimes. I don't know if I've
mentioned that before on this review. I know
bands are the same way that people say, what
song should I listen to or what album should
I jump into? I'm like, I don't know where to
tell you to go to because the band's all over
the place. So it's more of like, well, if you
just have six hours, here's the six albums you
should listen to up there. Or it's like a TV
show that some are good from the very beginning
and other ones are like, hey, if you can just
make it through season two, season three is when
it really gets good. And I think that that's
what I got, but I feel like after getting the
explanation. So maybe that's just what we need
to start doing is like a Commentary ones maybe
like y 'all too can maybe sit down and come up
with like a commentary for each one. So I Do
I have one more thing I want to say this is a
small sort of production note Yeah, it's not
even really a production note, but you Jill you'd
commented earlier in the episode about how this
this record was like a Good step up in production
from the first record. Um, and I don't know,
I was listening when I was listening to this
song in preparation, when that kick drum first
comes in at the beginning of the song, my like
first, I was like, man, that kick drum sounds
incredible. Like it just sounds so good. It's
like perfect. Um, that's, you know, doesn't make
a difference here or there or anything, but I
just, it sounded so good that I wanted to mention
how good that kick drum sound track. And it's
one of the few places on that record where it
has the place to stand out. Yeah, for sure. Cool.
Yeah. We move on to Banner Year. Joel, what were
your thoughts on Banner Year? Yeah, I think Banner
Year is great. It's one of like a few songs that
they have about Native Americans and this idea
of manifest destiny. Yeah. And and so this was
a super important issue for Five Iron. And one
that I feel like, honestly, really drew my attention
to it for the for I don't know about the first
time in my life, but really highlighted it for
me in a meaningful way. And I feel like as a
as a high schooler, when I started listening
to them, it's songs like this that gave me like
a nuance for looking at history, especially American
history, and realizing that it's not all like
rosy and beautiful. Um, but that we made some
mistakes and, um, and it's obviously a picture
too, for the church that we've made some mistakes
in the name of Jesus, um, before, but, um, yeah,
it's, it's musically not my favorite song on
the record. Um, but I think the message of it
is so good. And, um, just highlighting the, like
the kingdom of God versus. the kingdom of this
nation. I think it's so important like a line
like, see the empty pole above his empty grave.
A piece of cloth can't hold your faith. I do
feel like at like a formative time in my life,
this helped me begin to like parse out like where
my allegiances like really needed to be and resting
in Christ and in his kingdom. So yeah, I love
it. I love this song. Yeah, I'm 10 for all that
stuff, Joel said. Yeah, the theme of kind of
what we did to Native Americans definitely pops
up a lot for this band over their entire discography.
And yeah, like Joel said, I feel like for me
as a young person hearing this, it did a really
good job of of re -centering me um and uh you
know that that line at the end of the pre -chorus
that you mentioned Joe like a piece of cloth
can't hold your faith um like I just think that's
I don't think that line ever becomes irrelevant
um you know it's at least not in in America like
I feel like it's that's something that if as
Christians We need to keep it the forefront of
our mind. Um, at all times. Um, and, uh, yeah,
I, I agree with you, you know, like this, what
the song is, if, if the lyrics weren't so good,
this would almost be like a skip over song for
me. Um, but the lyrics are too good for me to
skip it. Like, um, and, and kind of how it makes
me, what it makes me think about is, is something
I need to hear all the time. Yeah, it's too good
for me to skip. Yeah. Yeah, I I really I really
like the the lyrics of it I really like the story
they're telling and I think that when you are
specific with something you run the risk of of
Kind of like you don't cast that big of a net
like I think of house of heroes like I love the
end is not the end But like there's some people
that when you say yeah, this is a whole album
about like people's stories from World War two
you're gonna lose a lot of people by being like
I remember them Tom they were on like the Toby
Mack and skillet tour and they're like People
showed up to be like man. You got Toby's hip
-hop You got skillets rock and roll and then
you've got this like band singing about World
War two and So I feel like you it's it's a risk
But I also feel like it is cool when it's not
this vague like who or what are they talking
about? But you can see directly what they're
talking about. So I always appreciate when a
band takes that risk Yeah, that's good. All right,
track number nine is second season. What'd you
guys think about second season? For me, I enjoyed
the slow down. I think for me, I put down the
notes that maybe this is what I was expecting
a little bit more from the album just before
I heard anything from it. But yeah, I feel like
it was nice to kind of have just this little
slow down break moment in there. If this song
had a skip track for me, which it doesn't, but
if it did, this would probably be it. I don't
know, man. I like Dennis Culp a lot. I think
he has a good voice. Objectively, I think it's
great, but there's something about something
about because he sings other songs on other records
sometimes and there's something about his voice
that just doesn't really do it for me um and
i can't really explain that uh i have the same
feeling whenever he sings like a brave saint
saturn song on that side project of theirs um
i think he's good for sure and and i think also
on dennis songs uh his lyrics for me kind of
straddle this line of being really really good
and then also really just kind of cheesy but
not cheesy in like a funny way just like yeah
it's kind of cheesy and so yeah I don't I don't
love this song but again I love all these songs
so yeah but this one's this one's probably my
least favorite on the record yeah there there's
some cool guitar work that's happening I feel
like the the slow down kind of the more like
swing big band like feel of it creates space
for like some things to like shine a little bit
but it also probably puts some other stuff on
display too but um in the in the air of it uh
yeah i don't i don't dislike this one um i i
think i like dennis's voice and i think it's
it's just an interesting change of pace for the
record It's kind of like a song from like Ecclesiastes,
which isn't the first time that I felt that from
this record. So that's kind of an interesting
theme that I feel like kind of carries out. But
but yeah, not my favorite track. But but I don't
mind it. I don't mind it. Moving on to Litmus.
Ty, what do you how do you feel about Litmus?
I love this song. I think this song is I think
the song is a very underrated forever and frenzied
song. I don't think it gets talked about much.
There was a period of time where, I mean, it
wasn't a long period of time. It was probably
like three months, but there was a three month
period of time when I was in high school where
I would have been like, this is my favorite song
on the record. And I feel like anyone who has
ever been in a Christian band or or Christian
in a band or whatever you want to say. And that
has been told that they're not Christian enough.
I think can really feel this song a lot. I don't
know. I love this song. Yeah, I think I think
it's a it's a good one. I love the like the punk
again. But yeah, just it's it's so interesting
being a band and they're position and I feel
like we've talked about this with earlier stuff,
but being a band in their position and just like,
you've got your second record, which is probably
your riskiest record of your career. And like,
you're just willing to like tank it all, like
going after the music industry. Um, but I feel
like that just takes guts. And, um, and so, yeah,
song about Pharisees and the music industry.
I just feel like, um, it's a really valuable
and important message. So glad they brought attention
to it. yeah i feel like um i really like this
track and is like for ska with all of the like
silliness and goofiness you can get i feel like
the horns really work whenever you're doing this
like in your face like i think of like oc super
tones and that was always the stuff that i gravitated
more towards was more of the stuff where it's
like you're just like um Being a very in your
face being very honest versus the stuff where
it's like a calmer. Um, so I I really really
love this track Yeah All right Track 11. Um,
this is a big one. Um, oh canada Ty what are
your thoughts on oh canada? Sorry you just uh
your computer just kind of froze on me or something.
I didn't hear what you were saying. Track number
11, Oh Canada. What are your thoughts on Oh Canada?
Okay. I mean, this is what I wrote and I kind
of feel bad about this. I love this song, but
I just don't have much to say about it. It's
fun. I think it's very fun. but there's one thing
I went back and um before the episode like I
went back and listened to this record again while
reading the lyrics on genius .com because for
me I don't I've never I never read lyrics like
I just usually I'm not sure of the lyrics of
any of my favorite songs like I have a good guess
as to what they are yeah and and this song is
this song is like an example of that like I I
thought for the past 20 years almost 20 years
that I've known the lyrics to this song um and
then there's that there's that line toward the
end at the end of the bridge where he says and
slurpees made from venison that's deer that's
deer and it is deer and it's funny and but this
whole time I just thought he said that's here
like we have that here and so But then when I
read it this time, I was like, wait, he's saying
that's dear. I was like, that's way better. And
so I don't know. That's that's like my only note.
So I discovered that lyric like a week ago for
the first time. I find that funny because the
other last week, me and Joel were talking about,
like, whenever something comes out, I love going
and looking at the lyrics and like there's this
one band I really like called Don Quixote's Horse.
And I was mentioning to Joel that I was like,
man it like this is what makes me like upset
as well when you have like booklets with CDs
you can look but then sometimes it's like oh
you want to like look up there like booklets
or whatever um so i don't know i'll see if i
can contact them and maybe see if they can start
sending out booklets but um their lyrics are
bad but um i i like this i think that out of
the like the comedy songs or whatever this was
probably like my favorite um out of them and
i mean maybe it's just more of like like you
going back to like the ones where it's like where's
mica it's like you have to know like okay here's
here's information whereas i feel like the canada
it's like most of the it's more generic maybe
yeah for it so yeah yeah i this this song is
incredible to me and it has no depth or no anything
to it but it's just so fun and so goofy and that
guitar line is just like It's so stinking good.
Like it's too good to be on a record really.
And so I just, and Reese, I feel like his vocal
shine on the song really well. And I love that
like the bridge, like you feel like, oh, this
is the moment where things are going to get serious.
And then you get the venison deer thing, but
it's like everything comes down to the base and
it's like, all right, this is a serious moment.
And then Slurpee's made of venison. This song
has a point in my history where when I was in
college at Mississippi College in Clinton, where
I grew up, I was at a uh college dance at some
point um and i was there with a bunch of my friends
and i don't even remember what but um we somehow
convinced the dj to play oh canada um at the
college dance and we just opened up like a skanking
pit in the middle of the floor and uh and yeah
it was awesome so it has a special place in my
heart because of that so this song did uh form
Many of my early beliefs about the country of
Canada. Everything I knew about the country of
Canada came from this song. Did you know that
William Shatner is a native citizen? I remember
the first time the first time we went to Canada
and Jones that I like the first Canadian I found
I was like, I have a lot of questions for you.
That's so funny. All right. Track 12 most likely
to succeed. Brandon, what do you think about
this one? Um, I liked it. I think that, um, for
me, I think the second half of the album, um,
aside from Kitty doggie, like, cause I'll give
that the first half, I think like the, like the,
uh, the second half has been a lot stronger or
maybe it was just stuff that like, it kind of
like what I expected more. Um, but I liked it.
I really liked the, uh, the chorus and just the
overall kind of flow of like the. I guess it'd
be maybe like the pre -chorus and like in the
chorus. It especially stood out to me. I love
this song. I think the melody, I think the chorus
melody is so good. It's just a super strong vocal
melody. I love it. It really kind of, that kind
of makes the song for me, that vocal melody.
I wrote a note on here. For this song that I
wrote the lyrics are a bit conflicting. Mm -hmm,
and I don't know what I meant by that So that
means anything to you guys I don't know what
I meant by that. It's certainly an interesting
song like calling out the most likely to succeed
the popular kids and so I have no idea but Yeah,
I think it's a good song. It's not one of my
favorites from the record, but But it does lead
into my favorite song on our newest album ever
Which is 100 % track number 13 every new day
Ty tell us about every new day Man, this is the
best song Like it's the best song on the record
it's one of my favorite songs period of all time
I have On at least two occasions attempted to
go to a tattoo shop and get the ending lyrics
to the song tattooed on my body And i've been
told it's too long And you know and they've been
like you got to cut some of it out i'm just like
I don't have any part of it. I want to cut out
like yeah um, you know, it's uh Let me see I
think I think again the song shows how well read
reese roper is um Just the lyrics are, you know,
all these great literary references. Um, it's
beautiful poetry. It's beautiful prayer. Um,
and then, you know, I loved one of my favorite
things about this band was when I found out they
were breaking up. Um, and they, they announced
that they were going to do a final record that
they were only going to sell at shows for a while.
And so I went and saw them at cornerstone that
year. I think it's probably 04 maybe. And so
I remember buying the final record at Cornerstone.
And I remember on the way home, listening to
it, and it gets to the last song, which is on
distant shores. And at the end of that song,
they bring back the end of every new day. And
you know, and every new day was famously like
the song they closed every show with. And so
it was, I thought it was so incredible that they
decided to close their final album with it as
well. Uh, yeah, I mean, I, I can't say enough
about this song. I S I still listen to it. Anytime
I'm feeling a bit hopeless or something like
that. Um, it's, it's one of the first songs I
go to, to listen to. Um, I love it. Yeah, I'm,
I'm in the same boat. Um, I think this is the
best five iron frenzy song. Um, maybe that's
just nostalgia and the moments that it's like,
I felt like recentered me and brought me through
stuff, um, in my life, but. The lyrics are incredible.
Um, it has the best bridge, um, definitely of
any five iron song, but I would put it up there
against pretty much any song, um, out there.
Um, this, yeah, the song is like everything.
Um, the gospel is so clear in it in such a beautiful
way. I told the story, I think earlier on the
podcast, but, um, went to furnace fest 2021,
the first year they brought it back and no. I'm
sorry, this was a couple of years ago anyways,
and Five Iron played. And there's just obviously
a lot of people out there that have kind of walked
away from their faith. But I remember Five Iron
closed with Every New Day. And there was a girl
that posted on the Furnace Fest page. She said,
I haven't believed in Jesus in a long time, but
after watching Five are in play every new day.
I want to believe again, and I just feel like
that's the hope that's found in this song Yeah,
it's beautiful Yeah, I wrote my notes. I felt
like everything like it was firing on all cylinders
I feel like it was just like everything there
the lyrics were there the horns added to it I
felt like it was a really a really good Like
ending and I feel like it's it's also cool just
to kind of hear the story of like oh this this
ended songs and all um Because in the past sometimes
i'm like man This is the coolest song they've
ever done and then you find out like the whole
fan base hates that song So like um, it's always
cool when it's like, okay cool like the other
people that love the band also love this song
um, so I feel like you know, it's It's just cool
when I go back to whenever you end an album and
you're ending um on a cool note Not only with
that but also the hidden track in there where
you stick around um because what's funny is like
I feel like whenever you buy like a cd or cassette
You would always like sit around waiting for
something to happen. But then like whenever you
stream this now, you're just like Okay, why is
this track 10 minutes long and then you just
fast forward and you're like, okay That's what's
at the end of this and so I feel like it was
funny just thinking as a kid where you're waiting
to see if there's a hidden track whereas now
you just Like, you know, there's already a prize
there. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's obviously not
a list to track, but Kingdom of the Dinosaurs
at the end is a five hour classic. I would put
it personally above Kitty Doggy. But but I get
that it's harder to listen to because you got
to sit through some silence. My old scab and
we're not ugly. Had a we had a secret track on
our EP that no one's ever heard. It was that
was a direct. Was gonna say directly influenced,
but I'll say more directly ripped off from From
Kingdom of the dinosaurs, but it was called crazy
raccoon get out of a tree And yeah, it's great
secret track back in the days when we had secret
tracks. I love that Alright, so we've kind of
walked through the tracks on this one It's time
for us to give kind of our final ratings and
just final thoughts to our newest album ever
By five iron frenzy, I'll go first Just to kind
of get us started. So for me, I love this record.
I loved upbeats and beatdowns their first album
when it came out But for me this album just hit
on a different level and and it took took me
just to places that I felt like Christian music
hadn't taken me before when I first heard it,
especially with like Every New Day on it. And
so this one will always hold like a really special
place in my heart. I don't think it's a perfect
record, but it is up there for me. And so for
me, I'm going to give our newest album ever a
4 .4 on the five point scale. You you want to
go or you want me to go back go I think for me,
it's I was joking with Joel that I feel like
it's just gotten better with every lesson So
I think for right now is someone who like doesn't
really I guess get a lot of the references really
know a lot of the lore of the band Like it's
it's something exciting getting to dive more
into it So I think that for right now, like I'm
gonna give it a three out of five But I guess
whenever we do like another review next year,
it'll probably be raised up to like a five or
a six. At this rate, it will be like a 20 out
of five in just a year or whatever. But no, I
feel like it's it was cool to finally get to
dive into Five Iron and get to like check out
what they're all about. Yeah, I will say it's
not my favorite Five Iron record. I love it a
bunch, but it's not even my favorite record.
And so But um, but it has my favorite song. Mm
-hmm. So yeah Yeah, I don't uh, I don't even
know if I could pick a favorite five iron record.
It'd be really difficult for me Kind of depends
on the mood. I'm in yeah but Yeah, I'm So I kind
of have two ratings, you know the The rate my
heart my heart rating How I rate this song in
my heart is, uh, I think, you know, I think a
4 .4 is fair, uh, for that. I think that's where
it is. Um, I did the like mathematical thing
where I rated each song and then I, you know,
came out to an average at the end. And so my
sort of mathematical rating is a 3 .6. Um, which
I still feel is pretty fair for this record.
Like when I think about just like all the all
the records I really love. Where would I place
this record? And I feel like 3 .6 is probably
a fair thing, a fair rating for it. But I also
feel that I love it more than calling it a 3
.6. So yeah, it's somewhere in there for me.
That's really good. Yeah, it's a great one, for
sure. And so I'm thankful that we got to walk
through this record. Our first Five Iron album,
there's been a lot of people waiting on this
to happen. And so I'm excited to be able to get
into more of them later. But let's transition
real quick into the lyric of the week. I don't
think the lyric of the week could be anything
other than the bridge to every new day. So, man
versus himself, man versus machine, man versus
the world, mankind versus me. The struggles go
on, the wisdom I lack, the burdens keep piling
up on my back. So hard to breathe to take the
next step. The mountain is high, I wait in the
depths, yearning for grace and hoping for peace.
Dear God, increase. Healing hands of God have
mercy on our unclean souls once again. Jesus
Christ, light of the world, burning bright within
our hearts forever. Freedom means love without
condition, without a beginning or an end. Here's
my heart. Let it be forever yours. Only you can
make every new day seem so new. That's the longest
lyric of the week so far, but I didn't know how
to break it up. I don't either. The tattoo shop
guys won't have it when I tell them that's what
the tattoo I want. They're like, we can put it
on your whole back. I'm not doing that. Yeah.
Maybe the last line only you can make every new
day seems so new. Even though it's long, but
I get it. Um, all right. Well, um, Ty, again,
I know we talked about this last episode you
were on, but, um, I knew people can find you,
um, in your current music project Don Quixote's
horse. Um, you have any single out anything you
want to say about that? Um, you know, it is a,
uh, it's a song that I've just kind of felt like
I needed to write. Um, it's, I care very deeply,
um, about my faith as a Christian. Um, I care
very deeply about Jesus and it, it really hurts
me to see his name used for purposes of gaining
power or for purposes of You know building up
a national identity that says others are less
than yourself And it's a little it's a little
five iron esque Well, yeah, I mean I would say
that five iron has greatly influenced me as a
the way I think about my Christian faith and
how it relates to, uh, where I live. Um, and
so, yeah, it's just kind of my response to that.
Um, I don't know if I've ever felt compelled
to write a song before, uh, the way I felt compelled
to write that one. Um, and it's fine. It's okay.
I'm not a great songwriter, but if you want to
go listen to it, uh, go listen to it. on all
the things that you listen to music on. That's
awesome. Well, dude, we're so thankful to have
you here with us again for the second time. And
so thanks for taking some time to walk through
this with us. I love that you love this album
and that we got the chance to talk about it together.
And so that's it. That's just a great joy. So
thank you, man. Thank you, guys. I'm here for
any five hour record you want to talk about.
And Brandon, same. I'm here for any me without
you record you want to talk about. They are.
They're also. They're they're on my Mount Rushmore
best bands ever exist. So that's awesome Yeah,
that's awesome. Well for all you guys. Thanks
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