WEBVTT 00:00:01.550 --> 00:00:05.750 Are you listening? This ain't no quiet thing 00:00:05.750 --> 00:00:32.899 We're screaming out our lungs Well, hey welcome 00:00:32.899 --> 00:00:35.979 to hey, are you listening? This is a podcast 00:00:35.979 --> 00:00:39.179 exploring the past the present and future of 00:00:39.179 --> 00:00:41.780 Christian music now My name is Joel and I'm here 00:00:41.780 --> 00:00:44.759 with my good friend Brandon and we got connected 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.340 over a mutual love of some particular artists 00:00:47.340 --> 00:00:50.420 But have some pretty different tastes too And 00:00:50.420 --> 00:00:53.700 so this is a fun opportunity for us to get experience 00:00:53.700 --> 00:00:56.640 some new things from each other While also inviting 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.960 some friends along for the ride Brandon. How's 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:02.570 it going today? I'm doing amazing, Joel. The 00:01:02.570 --> 00:01:06.349 weather outside, we officially hit the 60s today. 00:01:06.549 --> 00:01:10.450 So I was late to recording because I had to run 00:01:10.450 --> 00:01:12.430 back inside and change into some fall clothes. 00:01:12.510 --> 00:01:16.109 That's how excited I am. So I totally feel that. 00:01:16.189 --> 00:01:20.129 I took my dog out this morning and stepped out 00:01:20.129 --> 00:01:23.530 into the wonderful 62 degrees that was happening 00:01:23.530 --> 00:01:26.349 outside. And I'm like, I'm a little chilly. I 00:01:26.349 --> 00:01:28.650 mean, throw a hoodie on, but I didn't do it. 00:01:28.780 --> 00:01:31.500 But it's fine. Yeah, I'm really excited for that 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:35.920 too. It's gonna be fun. Well today, we are going 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:40.840 to be covering a record that I think is one of 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.620 my favorite records. We're gonna be listening 00:01:43.620 --> 00:01:48.700 to the album Sixpence None the Richer by Sixpence 00:01:48.700 --> 00:01:51.680 None the Richer. And we'll get more into that 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.079 in just a little bit. But I thought it might 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:58.459 be fun for us as we kick things off today. To 00:01:58.459 --> 00:02:02.140 do it with a little game based on Sixpence's 00:02:02.140 --> 00:02:05.680 catalog, but kind of before we get into all that 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.680 Let's talk a little bit about our history with 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.800 this band to kind of give our listeners an idea 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.580 of where we are with it So what's your what's 00:02:14.580 --> 00:02:17.439 your history with Sixpence? I think I'm that 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:20.240 stereotypical person that could name two of their 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:24.659 songs like a year ago. Um It wasn't until last 00:02:24.659 --> 00:02:28.030 year that they were coming to Charleston and 00:02:28.030 --> 00:02:32.830 I really enjoyed their EP last year and so through 00:02:32.830 --> 00:02:34.750 that and going to the concert I started listening 00:02:34.750 --> 00:02:38.830 to some more of their stuff but even going into 00:02:38.830 --> 00:02:40.610 this like I feel like I don't know if I could 00:02:40.610 --> 00:02:43.750 have named three songs off of this album so I 00:02:43.750 --> 00:02:47.129 went into this with definitely just a blank like 00:02:47.129 --> 00:02:50.060 slight Yeah, well everybody knows one song off 00:02:50.060 --> 00:02:56.340 this album at least. But yeah, for me, so I started 00:02:56.340 --> 00:03:00.180 listening to Sixpence back in high school and 00:03:00.180 --> 00:03:03.860 it was their second record, This Beautiful Mess, 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.199 that really captured me and caught me and brought 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.259 me in. And then when this record came along, 00:03:11.550 --> 00:03:15.750 It was a pretty different feel for them, more 00:03:15.750 --> 00:03:19.310 actually akin to their first record, The Fatherless 00:03:19.310 --> 00:03:21.330 and the Widow that came out a long time ago. 00:03:22.629 --> 00:03:26.889 But yeah, this record went places that none of 00:03:26.889 --> 00:03:29.550 their other records had ever gone. But I would 00:03:29.550 --> 00:03:34.469 just immediately love this band. I saw them play 00:03:34.469 --> 00:03:39.610 at Cornerstone. I don't remember what year, 2003 00:03:39.610 --> 00:03:44.669 probably. when I was there and they played the 00:03:44.669 --> 00:03:47.110 main stage and I remember watching them play 00:03:47.110 --> 00:03:51.430 uh -huh and Thinking like this is why this band 00:03:51.430 --> 00:03:55.909 is so huge Because they deserve to be yeah this 00:03:55.909 --> 00:03:59.090 huge They were just incredible and yeah, and 00:03:59.090 --> 00:04:01.629 then we get to see him Kind of on there like 00:04:01.629 --> 00:04:06.430 current reunion. Yeah thing we We both went to 00:04:06.430 --> 00:04:10.120 that show which was a lot of fun. So yeah So 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:12.419 for me, they've been kind of like a part of my 00:04:12.419 --> 00:04:15.099 history and I've tried to stay engaged in everything 00:04:15.099 --> 00:04:18.139 that they're doing but So with that today, we're 00:04:18.139 --> 00:04:21.699 gonna play a game called deep cut or made up 00:04:21.699 --> 00:04:25.600 and so This is based on their catalog. And so 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.439 what we're gonna do is I'm gonna give you two 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:33.439 song titles and you need to tell me If it's a 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:35.579 deep no, they're not all necessarily deep cuts 00:04:35.579 --> 00:04:39.079 But um, if it's a deep cut or if it's made up 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.699 and so basically if it's pick which one is the 00:04:41.699 --> 00:04:44.639 real sixpence non -creature song And so we're 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.639 gonna start off pretty easy in round one And 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.040 so I think you'll be able to figure this one 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.879 out for sure. But um round one is two songs one 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:59.639 is kiss me And the second song is lanterns in 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.899 the fog Which one's the real Sixpence song? Definitely 00:05:02.899 --> 00:05:07.000 gotta go with A. Yes, you're right. Kiss Me from 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.500 their self -titled Sixpence None the Richer record, 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:12.180 which we're going to cover today. Alright, round 00:05:12.180 --> 00:05:15.740 two. It's going to get a little harder. First 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:19.480 off is Love, Salvation, and the Fear of Death 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:27.060 or Shadows on the Water. We go with the first 00:05:27.060 --> 00:05:31.910 one being real. You're right. I love that song. 00:05:32.069 --> 00:05:34.129 Love salvation and the fear of death. Alright, 00:05:34.329 --> 00:05:41.790 round three. Between Sundays or Loser Like Me? 00:05:45.290 --> 00:05:51.629 I'm gonna think Loser Like Me. You're right. 00:05:51.829 --> 00:05:56.240 Yep. between sundays it sounded like a song you'd 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.839 hear like on the radio that would be very like 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:03.600 cliche like cliche christian music yeah yeah 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.540 um yeah loser like me i think is just uh from 00:06:06.540 --> 00:06:09.879 their um best of album that came out it's kind 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.139 of like a bonus track that got released on them 00:06:12.139 --> 00:06:18.959 all right round four melody of you or glorious 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:28.620 machine Melody of You? Yeah, that's right. From 00:06:28.620 --> 00:06:31.199 the album after their self -titled album, Divine 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.660 Discontent. There's a lot of just shooting in 00:06:33.660 --> 00:06:36.519 the dark with it. You heard that song live when 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.829 we saw them live. when when I first heard that 00:06:39.829 --> 00:06:41.850 we were doing a game that was my biggest fear 00:06:41.850 --> 00:06:44.709 was that I was gonna say that doesn't sound real 00:06:44.709 --> 00:06:46.730 you're gonna say brain and you told me that was 00:06:46.730 --> 00:06:51.069 your favorite song from the show that's so funny 00:06:51.069 --> 00:06:56.870 all right um round number five um my dear machine 00:06:56.870 --> 00:07:03.970 or the last poet song I feel like Feel like it's 00:07:03.970 --> 00:07:06.509 it's too obvious. So I'm gonna have to go with 00:07:06.509 --> 00:07:10.689 the the machine one That's right You're doing 00:07:10.689 --> 00:07:15.490 so good Yeah, my dear machine is from Lost in 00:07:15.490 --> 00:07:19.050 Translation, which was their 2012 record that 00:07:19.050 --> 00:07:23.170 came out kind of out of nowhere. All right I 00:07:23.170 --> 00:07:27.189 think this one you might know But round number 00:07:27.189 --> 00:07:30.129 six. All right, is it heavens radio or thread 00:07:30.129 --> 00:07:33.250 the needle? Oh, Thread the Needle. Yeah, you 00:07:33.250 --> 00:07:35.389 knew that one because you like that EP. I was 00:07:35.389 --> 00:07:37.310 hoping I was like, man, just give me something 00:07:37.310 --> 00:07:42.269 from the past two years. It's a great song. All 00:07:42.269 --> 00:07:49.089 right. Round seven. Lips of an angel's prayer 00:07:49.089 --> 00:07:57.579 or bleeding. Oh, man. I feel like this is one 00:07:57.579 --> 00:07:59.540 of those trick ones where you say both of them 00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:06.560 are one. I feel like they like long titles, so 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.120 I'm gonna go with the... Lips of an angel's prayer? 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:11.540 Lips of an angel's prayer. Ah, got that one wrong. 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.360 Sorry, it was bleeding. That's from this beautiful 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:22.560 mess. All right. Silver lining daydream or Solomon 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:31.930 the mystic. Had the first one silver lining daydream 00:08:31.930 --> 00:08:36.049 Yeah to me that sounds like it would be a stereotypical 00:08:36.049 --> 00:08:38.389 six -pin song, but it's actually solemn and the 00:08:38.389 --> 00:08:43.470 mystic. Oh They so they put out an EP between 00:08:43.470 --> 00:08:45.509 this beautiful mess and the self -titled that 00:08:45.509 --> 00:08:47.889 was called tickets for a prayer will and that 00:08:47.889 --> 00:08:52.289 was from that. Yeah All right We're getting closer 00:08:52.289 --> 00:08:57.690 to the end here Next round, Angel Tread or Midnight 00:08:57.690 --> 00:09:01.990 Carousel? Both of them sound like it. Midnight 00:09:01.990 --> 00:09:04.350 Carousel sounds like it'd be such a cool song. 00:09:04.409 --> 00:09:07.529 I'm gonna go with that one. Oh man, sorry. It's 00:09:07.529 --> 00:09:10.350 Angel Tread, which is from This Beautiful Mess. 00:09:10.429 --> 00:09:12.470 Yeah, there's a lot on here from my favorite 00:09:12.470 --> 00:09:18.769 Sixpence record. Alright, and lastly, Field of 00:09:18.769 --> 00:09:23.539 Flowers or Whispers in the Cathedral? Whispers 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:28.039 in the cathedral. It's field of flowers So you 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.580 like the first half of it you were killing it 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:34.200 like round six. It would have been You were doing 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.179 so well, it's it's fine. It's fine Yeah, yeah. 00:09:38.179 --> 00:09:40.840 Yeah, so field of flowers is from their first 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.539 record fatherless on the widow Okay, which is 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:45.379 a really interesting listen to go back to you. 00:09:45.379 --> 00:09:50.720 So Alright, well, let's talk for a second about 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:55.299 what we have been listening to lately so Brandon, 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.840 hey, are you listening to something new? Yeah 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:01.639 I'm listening to Gable Price and Friends came 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.539 out with a new single a human point of view last 00:10:04.539 --> 00:10:10.460 Friday and I really really like it it feels like 00:10:10.460 --> 00:10:13.259 a little bit different, but They're one of those 00:10:13.259 --> 00:10:16.100 I was telling them Mark one of her friends mark 00:10:16.100 --> 00:10:18.659 about like they're one of those bands that I 00:10:18.659 --> 00:10:21.360 think it's what's your style of music? And that's 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.860 what you should jump into first. It's not a every 00:10:23.860 --> 00:10:27.539 album is just a this is their sound like it's 00:10:27.539 --> 00:10:31.480 very different from one to one so listening to 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.100 that and then I've been listening more to I don't 00:10:35.100 --> 00:10:37.240 know how familiar you are with radio you the 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:42.250 radio station out of I think it's Ohio, but Yeah, 00:10:42.269 --> 00:10:45.049 like my my childhood they like had like John 00:10:45.049 --> 00:10:46.950 Rube and House of Heroes and everyone on and 00:10:46.950 --> 00:10:49.950 so I've been listening to more of that and they 00:10:49.950 --> 00:10:52.470 have They've got like six different channels. 00:10:52.509 --> 00:10:55.190 You can listen to it. So they have like More 00:10:55.190 --> 00:10:58.269 heavy metal they've got like rap, but the two 00:10:58.269 --> 00:11:01.450 ones I've got pretty much on are they're like 00:11:01.450 --> 00:11:04.769 I Guess like a regular one. So it's a lot of 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:07.429 like newer stuff some old stuff and then they've 00:11:07.429 --> 00:11:11.940 a throwback channel this just all just like Everything 00:11:11.940 --> 00:11:14.980 from like the 2000s the 90s. So you'll have like 00:11:14.980 --> 00:11:17.600 bleach on and then you'll have like a Hawk Nelson 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.360 song They don't have House of Heroes That's awesome. 00:11:21.460 --> 00:11:24.039 So yeah, I really like it because there's a lot 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.019 of bands that either I listen to or that were 00:11:27.019 --> 00:11:30.240 really big in the I think that's how like I rediscovered 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.779 like the almost hmm because I didn't really listen 00:11:32.779 --> 00:11:35.100 a ton of their stuff, but they were on there 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:38.600 and um, so yeah, it's it's really cool cuz like 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.240 if I'm left to like my choices like listening 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.860 it becomes where I just get focused on having 00:11:44.860 --> 00:11:47.200 to choose the next song and I become the DJ yeah 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.679 so sometimes it's nice just to throw on like 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.620 radio you to where like they can be the DJ so 00:11:52.620 --> 00:11:55.399 I don't have to use all this bandwidth that like 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.779 create my own radio station that's awesome I 00:11:58.779 --> 00:12:01.399 feel like I have a few playlists that are basically 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:04.080 like radio stations because I have so many songs 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.539 yeah what are songs that I love let's throw them 00:12:07.539 --> 00:12:11.210 all on here I like that. That's really cool. 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:14.970 Yeah, for me, I probably I haven't mentioned 00:12:14.970 --> 00:12:18.149 this yet on the podcast, but I think the album 00:12:18.149 --> 00:12:20.009 that I've probably listened to more than anything 00:12:20.009 --> 00:12:24.309 else this year is an album called Jesus by John 00:12:24.309 --> 00:12:29.809 Guerra. And I've listened to his stuff a lot 00:12:29.809 --> 00:12:33.149 in the past, but for whatever reason, this album 00:12:33.149 --> 00:12:38.049 has just really captured me. And it's very like 00:12:39.990 --> 00:12:44.470 very, like, simple and just really thoughtful. 00:12:44.570 --> 00:12:47.070 Most of the lyrics are just pulled from scripture, 00:12:48.169 --> 00:12:51.610 but put together into a bunch of songs about 00:12:51.610 --> 00:12:55.250 Jesus or about things that Jesus said. And I 00:12:55.250 --> 00:12:58.110 just love, love, love it. I think it's definitely 00:12:58.110 --> 00:13:01.220 one of the best records of the year. so far probably 00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:05.759 my album of the year. And so I highly recommend 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.500 that one to anybody as well as any of John Guerra's 00:13:09.500 --> 00:13:13.600 work. I think his stuff's really fantastic. I've 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.659 been excited for that one. It's been really good. 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.100 All right, well let's transition into talking 00:13:20.100 --> 00:13:22.919 about the album that we're here to talk about 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:32.460 today. So today, hey, are you listening to Sixpence 00:13:32.460 --> 00:13:35.480 None the Richer by Sixpence None the Richer? 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.480 And so I pulled together some facts about this 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.720 album that I thought might be interesting just 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:45.080 to kind of set up for us a little bit. So early 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.539 on Sixpence was on a label called Rex, which 00:13:48.539 --> 00:13:51.899 was a Christian label. And then they kind of 00:13:51.899 --> 00:13:56.500 found themselves homeless a little bit. But this 00:13:56.500 --> 00:14:00.429 album, They started working on and it ended up 00:14:00.429 --> 00:14:04.990 getting picked up by squint. Mm -hmm, which is 00:14:04.990 --> 00:14:07.629 Steve Taylor's label that was kind of rolling 00:14:07.629 --> 00:14:12.269 at the time and So this is the third studio album 00:14:12.269 --> 00:14:15.789 by six pence none the richer it came out on November 00:14:15.789 --> 00:14:23.149 22nd 1997 It was certified platinum by the RIAA 00:14:23.149 --> 00:14:28.250 on February 9th 2000 for a million units sold 00:14:28.250 --> 00:14:31.629 in the United States. It was nominated for a 00:14:31.629 --> 00:14:35.210 Grammy Award for Best Rock Gospel Album at the 00:14:35.210 --> 00:14:40.809 41st Annual Grammy Awards. When this came out, 00:14:41.409 --> 00:14:45.149 it kind of, I mean Sixpence fans bought it, but 00:14:45.149 --> 00:14:47.990 the funny thing was it wasn't until two years 00:14:47.990 --> 00:14:51.250 later that this album blew up, which is a really 00:14:51.250 --> 00:14:54.870 rare thing I feel like in music. But it's because 00:14:54.870 --> 00:14:58.429 this the song kiss me got released as a single 00:14:58.429 --> 00:15:01.909 because it was in a movie uh -huh And as soon 00:15:01.909 --> 00:15:04.669 as that happened like it went nuts and this album 00:15:04.669 --> 00:15:07.149 That was just like an album released on squint 00:15:07.149 --> 00:15:11.690 like blew up to be this huge thing And they skyrocketed 00:15:11.690 --> 00:15:16.230 to like global fame An interesting thing about 00:15:16.230 --> 00:15:19.350 six bits that as I was digging into this did 00:15:19.350 --> 00:15:23.580 you know? Sixpence on Spotify has over 11 million 00:15:23.580 --> 00:15:27.820 monthly listeners. And when you compare that, 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.779 you compare that to a band like DC Talk. How 00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:33.320 many monthly listeners do you think DC Talk would 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.669 have? Maybe two to three hundred thousand. Well, 00:15:37.730 --> 00:15:41.009 yeah, they've got about 266 ,000 but I do say 00:15:41.009 --> 00:15:43.570 that because I saw them right in front of me 00:15:43.570 --> 00:15:49.570 But like 11 million is wild and even like a Brandon 00:15:49.570 --> 00:15:53.190 Lake today, he's got about Six million. Yeah 00:15:53.190 --> 00:15:55.909 kind of the guy at the top of the of the charts 00:15:55.909 --> 00:15:58.269 and top of his game Toby Mack about three million 00:15:58.269 --> 00:16:05.970 and the wild thing About this is yeah this band 00:16:05.970 --> 00:16:09.750 has this place that puts them in this category, 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:13.789 mostly because of this one song. But then they 00:16:13.789 --> 00:16:16.110 were able to kind of carry that on with it with 00:16:16.110 --> 00:16:18.409 a few other things as well. So we'll dig into 00:16:18.409 --> 00:16:23.870 that more as we kind of get into this. But yeah, 00:16:24.629 --> 00:16:28.169 what were your like any opening thoughts you 00:16:28.169 --> 00:16:32.080 have or anything with this album like? What was 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.700 the first time you heard Kiss Me? Did that stand 00:16:34.700 --> 00:16:38.899 out to you at that point in time? I feel like 00:16:38.899 --> 00:16:42.340 it's one of those bands that were playing on 00:16:42.340 --> 00:16:45.539 the radio as a kid, but I never was like, oh 00:16:45.539 --> 00:16:49.840 man, Sixpence is like my band. And then I think 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:54.480 I started listening to them more because of Steve 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.360 Taylor, because I didn't know who he was until 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.919 he came back and made his Steve Taylor in the 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.579 Perfect Boil release yeah and um so it's kind 00:17:04.579 --> 00:17:08.619 of just this like weird like oh 2013 I discover 00:17:08.619 --> 00:17:11.299 Steve Taylor and then I go wait he's behind this 00:17:11.299 --> 00:17:14.059 really big song like let me give this a listen 00:17:14.059 --> 00:17:17.640 again yeah and like I fell in love with the song 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.579 and um it was actually the uh the first dance 00:17:20.579 --> 00:17:22.259 at me and Jordan's wedding. Oh, that's awesome. 00:17:22.500 --> 00:17:24.579 And um, so like I fell in love with the song, 00:17:24.579 --> 00:17:27.740 but like I never went further than that song. 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.920 Like I never dove in and it might've been, I 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.099 tried to give it a listen to 10 years ago, but 00:17:33.099 --> 00:17:34.799 I was like, ah, this isn't my style. I'm going 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:36.940 to stick to like, this is my, I'm going to stick 00:17:36.940 --> 00:17:38.779 to the chicken tenders. I'm not going to, I'm 00:17:38.779 --> 00:17:40.240 not going to look at the rest of the menu. I'm 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.559 going to do my like normal. And um, so yeah, 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:48.210 honestly, See is this listen I did with this 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:51.049 album. This was probably the first time I'd ever 00:17:51.049 --> 00:17:55.109 really sat down and like I listened to it, but 00:17:55.109 --> 00:17:58.970 I Definitely paid attention to what was happening. 00:17:58.970 --> 00:18:02.670 Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it was hard to miss like 00:18:02.670 --> 00:18:05.930 that moment in music history because it really 00:18:05.930 --> 00:18:09.109 was kind of such a big deal and like I said, 00:18:09.130 --> 00:18:13.509 I I Thought it it was so cool like The funny 00:18:13.509 --> 00:18:15.730 thing is like Steve Taylor kind of rescued this 00:18:15.730 --> 00:18:18.829 album from like just completely disappearing. 00:18:19.650 --> 00:18:22.710 Sixpence was on the edge of like breaking up 00:18:22.710 --> 00:18:26.630 and maybe not going to continue making music 00:18:26.630 --> 00:18:31.549 and he knew them and he heard what they were 00:18:31.549 --> 00:18:33.609 working on and was like no we need to get this 00:18:33.609 --> 00:18:36.049 out there. There's something significant that's 00:18:36.049 --> 00:18:41.890 happening here and so yeah I kind of immediately 00:18:42.569 --> 00:18:45.730 was was in on this, even though it was a pretty 00:18:45.730 --> 00:18:49.089 significant departure from from the album that 00:18:49.089 --> 00:18:52.890 came before this beautiful mess. So all right. 00:18:52.910 --> 00:18:55.789 Well, let's kind of get into it and start working 00:18:55.789 --> 00:18:58.670 our way through this. And so like we always do, 00:18:58.670 --> 00:19:01.710 we would encourage you if you want to. We can't 00:19:01.710 --> 00:19:04.789 play this for you. But while we're talking about 00:19:04.789 --> 00:19:06.769 this kind of track by track, you're welcome to 00:19:06.769 --> 00:19:09.619 pull it up and kind of listen to it. In the background 00:19:09.619 --> 00:19:12.420 as we as we kind of shift through the songs that 00:19:12.420 --> 00:19:16.160 are happening In this but let's start off with 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:20.160 track number one We have forgotten. What were 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.500 your thoughts on this one? I thought it was just 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:26.680 an okay song I didn't really like as an opener. 00:19:26.819 --> 00:19:30.640 So when I when it started playing I thought oh 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:32.940 Man, this is gonna this is I'm gonna make real 00:19:32.940 --> 00:19:36.259 people really upset with this review. Okay, I 00:19:36.259 --> 00:19:41.059 didn't I didn't really like care for it um and 00:19:41.059 --> 00:19:43.819 so um but given our track record you're probably 00:19:43.819 --> 00:19:45.619 going to say brand this is my favorite song of 00:19:45.619 --> 00:19:49.079 the whole album no i actually agree with you 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:54.039 um that um this this i think was one of the poorest 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:57.980 choices um of the album to especially in the 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:01.799 opening slot um i feel like you need a song that's 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.079 really gonna like pull people in. Yeah. Um, and 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.160 I don't feel like this, this did it for me. It 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:10.819 is a let down. Um, I mean, I say that it's still 00:20:10.819 --> 00:20:14.299 like a good song. Um, but it's not an, it's not 00:20:14.299 --> 00:20:16.480 an opening song. Yeah. I think it's definitely 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.460 a placement. Um, cause I think did they not perform 00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:23.559 this when they were here? I can't remember, honestly. 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:25.779 Cause I remember thinking, man, I feel like if 00:20:25.779 --> 00:20:28.680 this would have been tracked like six or seven, 00:20:28.740 --> 00:20:31.730 it would have been, and I know that's like, Nitpicking 00:20:31.730 --> 00:20:33.970 but it's it's it's like we've said before I feel 00:20:33.970 --> 00:20:36.690 like it I look as an album as a concert like 00:20:36.690 --> 00:20:40.769 yeah draw me in Let's go like have our like ups 00:20:40.769 --> 00:20:43.369 and downs, you know, but yeah Yeah, I think I 00:20:43.369 --> 00:20:46.029 think it's suffered because you are expecting 00:20:46.029 --> 00:20:50.250 something to Get you yeah. No, I agree with you 00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:53.230 completely. I agree with you completely on that 00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:55.150 I don't think that was a problem with them on 00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:58.150 past records, but for whatever reason yeah, I 00:20:58.150 --> 00:21:01.250 think it's just on the wrong spot here, so Not 00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:05.630 my favorite opener, but that's okay. All right, 00:21:05.829 --> 00:21:08.390 track two though is kind of where I like, we 00:21:08.390 --> 00:21:10.549 should have started the album here. That's what 00:21:10.549 --> 00:21:12.750 I wrote into. I was like, this should have been 00:21:12.750 --> 00:21:18.089 like the opener. Yeah, I really liked it. I felt 00:21:18.089 --> 00:21:20.130 like it would have been a lot better kind of 00:21:20.130 --> 00:21:24.309 this like, okay, like we're waiting the CD, like 00:21:24.309 --> 00:21:28.069 it gets you into the album. See, I really liked 00:21:28.069 --> 00:21:30.029 it. I think it would have been a better opener. 00:21:30.900 --> 00:21:33.640 Yeah, opening up the album with the line. This 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.500 is my 45th depressing tune like would have been 00:21:36.500 --> 00:21:42.720 so good Yeah, I love I love this song Anything 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.579 I love how like the guitars are so slight in 00:21:46.579 --> 00:21:48.539 the beginning and then there's just this slow 00:21:48.539 --> 00:21:52.180 build to them. Yeah singing I'm also one of my 00:21:52.180 --> 00:21:54.779 favorite like lyrics some of my favorite lyrics 00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:58.140 on the record kind of the birth of a song There's 00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:00.279 a lot on this album about the music industry. 00:22:00.299 --> 00:22:03.380 Yeah, interestingly enough, but I love the idea 00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:07.440 of like giving birth to a song Here and I just 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:12.740 think that the chorus melody is Incredible. The 00:22:12.740 --> 00:22:17.869 whole song is like a slow slow build. Yeah That 00:22:17.869 --> 00:22:20.230 just gets to your really a really good high point 00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:23.150 and it's also the first time we're On this record 00:22:23.150 --> 00:22:26.529 where you get like that six pence like lead guitar. 00:22:26.890 --> 00:22:31.210 Yeah line kind of the jangly 90s guitar, which 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:34.849 I'm just such a sucker for so Yeah, I love I 00:22:34.849 --> 00:22:38.089 love that song. It's so good The next one we 00:22:38.089 --> 00:22:44.109 have is the waiting room For me, I liked it I 00:22:44.109 --> 00:22:46.619 was trying to think of how to describe this But 00:22:46.619 --> 00:22:48.980 it felt like I was watching a movie. I felt like 00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:52.940 one of those songs that you throw into like a 00:22:52.940 --> 00:22:55.039 not exactly sure what the scene is, but I felt 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:58.180 like it was something you find on like a movie 00:22:58.180 --> 00:23:01.140 soundtrack. Yeah. But I kind of liked it that 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:04.539 it's just this like almost like a background 00:23:04.539 --> 00:23:06.859 type of light talk. And I think they Sixpence 00:23:06.859 --> 00:23:10.460 does that well. Yeah. It's like just the the 00:23:10.460 --> 00:23:14.599 simple things. They can have the simplest. Lyrics 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.019 and it draws you in it's like you that's they're 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:19.799 a band that and I mean it's kind of a spoiler 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:22.720 for how I feel about this But even just the EP 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.599 they released I was like after I heard that I 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:27.420 was like yeah, they're a band that when they 00:23:27.420 --> 00:23:31.500 when they're doing like a Pre -order whatever, 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:33.480 you know, you can just purchase it because it's 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.839 gonna be good. Yeah, and that's kind of the vibe 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:37.680 I got from this song was that I felt like it 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.539 was like for me it was kind of like this Regular 00:23:40.539 --> 00:23:43.579 song, but they make it feel important, right? 00:23:44.180 --> 00:23:46.220 One of the things that this song does that's 00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:48.920 cool is I don't know if you noticed as you were 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.140 listening to it, but the end of track two anything 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:56.660 Yeah instrumentally introduces the song the waiting 00:23:56.660 --> 00:24:01.160 room and so they're like playing on guitar like 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.980 the the vocal line for waiting room at the end 00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:07.160 of anything and the songs just kind of like go 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.539 together And and they do that often through this 00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:13.900 whole record where there's like movements almost 00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:17.819 It's more than just like let's put songs Yeah 00:24:17.819 --> 00:24:20.180 in place, but it's it's kind of like one big 00:24:20.180 --> 00:24:24.759 song In a cool way, and so I love how that how 00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:28.059 that happens And there's perfect flow between 00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:30.920 yeah, it's not like one of the standout songs 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.720 for me on the album But yeah, I think it's really 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:38.589 good All right, so the heavy hitter At least 00:24:38.589 --> 00:24:44.589 in most people's view kiss me track four Let 00:24:44.589 --> 00:24:46.849 me just tell you a few things that I've found 00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:49.789 about about this song really quick to kind of 00:24:49.789 --> 00:24:55.609 put it in a context and so this song is In what's 00:24:55.609 --> 00:24:58.809 called the billions club on Spotify, meaning 00:24:58.809 --> 00:25:02.349 that it's been streamed over a billion times 00:25:02.349 --> 00:25:05.609 You know the crazy thing about that though is 00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:11.500 that 33 % of those over a billion streams happened 00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:16.940 last year in 2024. When I read that, that kind 00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:20.160 of blew my mind. Like how does this song have 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:26.019 such like staying power to where it's like more 00:25:26.019 --> 00:25:31.380 popular now than like it ever has been. It's 00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:36.869 pretty wild. So in 2024, it got certified triple 00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:41.789 platinum following its double platinum certification 00:25:41.789 --> 00:25:46.430 in 2023. It's been in tons of films and shows 00:25:46.430 --> 00:25:50.769 and kind of all over the place. But this song 00:25:50.769 --> 00:25:54.769 has just become this big staple kind of in music 00:25:54.769 --> 00:25:59.710 and pop music. And for me, I think that there's 00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:03.390 a reason why this song is such a a heavy hitter. 00:26:03.849 --> 00:26:07.170 I've probably heard this song thousands of times 00:26:07.170 --> 00:26:09.549 in my life. I couldn't even begin to count how 00:26:09.549 --> 00:26:12.730 many times I heard it. And maybe because of that 00:26:12.730 --> 00:26:17.190 I skip over it sometimes, but I've never disliked 00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:21.109 it when I hear it. It's always something that 00:26:21.109 --> 00:26:25.049 I can still enjoy. It's a song my kids love that 00:26:25.049 --> 00:26:29.490 they're super into. I can't deny it's pretty 00:26:29.490 --> 00:26:33.170 much a perfect pop song. um yeah i don't know 00:26:33.170 --> 00:26:36.130 what are your thoughts well like so whenever 00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:39.849 um me and jordan playing our wedding um just 00:26:39.849 --> 00:26:43.150 to give context she asked me to make the like 00:26:43.150 --> 00:26:46.970 playlist for the reception afterwards and after 00:26:46.970 --> 00:26:49.089 like two weeks i brought it to her and i had 00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:51.609 20 songs on there and she was like brandon people 00:26:51.609 --> 00:26:53.769 are gonna be here for hours and i was like well 00:26:53.769 --> 00:26:57.210 i like this song but in that song the like people 00:26:57.210 --> 00:27:00.410 they've been dating for like six years and like 00:27:00.410 --> 00:27:02.569 one of them's going off to like war and i'm like 00:27:02.569 --> 00:27:05.170 that's not us she's like brandon just put it 00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:09.069 on the playlist um so like when we were like 00:27:09.069 --> 00:27:12.450 doing our wedding we were like i was so picky 00:27:12.450 --> 00:27:15.230 about music and the first dance was one that 00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:17.289 i'm like man this is probably going to be the 00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.170 pickiest out of them and this song stood out 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:24.769 because it's so simple but that's what makes 00:27:24.769 --> 00:27:30.569 it so good is that it's just this simple like 00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:34.230 like oh hey we're gonna go out and do this like 00:27:34.230 --> 00:27:37.190 we're just like like a kiss is so special yeah 00:27:37.190 --> 00:27:41.589 and um i think that's why like you said it's 00:27:41.589 --> 00:27:44.369 nothing i don't know if there's anything about 00:27:44.369 --> 00:27:49.730 it that's like oh that's the best like that song's 00:27:49.730 --> 00:27:52.660 ever done yeah and it's just everything about 00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:57.279 it's just so good and I think you know you giving 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.240 the story behind the album I think it shines 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.799 so much on this album that it wasn't a some record 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.559 label stepping in saying we have to like like 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.140 make this like money because I feel like a record 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:12.579 label would go okay from now on we all it all 00:28:12.579 --> 00:28:14.819 has to be kiss me like that's what it all has 00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:19.119 to be and I think that's what makes it so good 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.250 is that it's like it was this like organic so 00:28:22.250 --> 00:28:24.829 it wasn't this Steve Taylor spending 10 million 00:28:24.829 --> 00:28:29.230 on a marketing campaign um so yeah I think it's 00:28:29.230 --> 00:28:33.829 just it's weird how something so simple can be 00:28:33.829 --> 00:28:37.210 so special when you do it right yeah and the 00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:39.470 fact that it took two years for like the world 00:28:39.470 --> 00:28:43.190 to hear it um but then like just soak it in yeah 00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:47.599 I think the Man the guitars I think are so good 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.279 the lead lines awesome. It's just like there's 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:53.000 nothing about this song that doesn't work I think 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.640 what you're saying is so true and part of that's 00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:59.700 because it's just so simple. Yeah But in everything 00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:02.759 that it does like it it just it hits really well. 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:07.259 So yeah For all the Sixpence Kiss Me haters, 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.339 we are not among you, but no, I think it's a 00:29:12.339 --> 00:29:15.960 great song. Yeah. Our next one is Easy to Ignore. 00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:20.559 I think this one, it's good because when you... 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.400 I feel like when you are following what is arguably 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.559 like, or I don't think it's arguably, I think 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.460 it is like their most popular. A lot of people 00:29:28.460 --> 00:29:31.240 think this is their best song. I think it holds 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.339 up well. At this point, I also started to think 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.420 Six pence is just like the female version of 00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:41.920 jars of clay Because there's so much about this 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.079 that I'm like I could picture this being charged 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.119 that like they're charging play like that's that's 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.240 a future game like is this a jars of clay or 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.839 is it a Six pence like song or lyrics or whatever? 00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:59.759 Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, I love the I just 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.619 think the line the the track title is so good 00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:05.539 coming out of kiss me easy to ignore Because 00:30:05.539 --> 00:30:10.579 after that song yeah But it's a song that fits 00:30:10.579 --> 00:30:12.880 the record really well, but I think you need 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.140 a song like this after after kiss me Yeah, I 00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:20.900 think that's good. So track six is really interesting 00:30:20.900 --> 00:30:25.359 Quedo Escobar Escobar Escobar I'm saying that 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.680 wrong. I need to get back on my duolingo way 00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.880 to Escobar Yeah, what are your thoughts on this 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.759 one? I think it's always a huge risk when you 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:39.420 do something like this because I I'm a big lyric 00:30:39.420 --> 00:30:41.700 person and I feel like I didn't have time to 00:30:41.700 --> 00:30:44.319 go through and translate like dive into them 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.339 But I think it works. Well, I think is that like 00:30:49.339 --> 00:30:52.559 as someone who knows more about like six pence 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:58.960 is there a reason why like she's like gone into 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.839 because I know that's been a couple of years 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.079 ago I reviewed a Christmas album with a friend 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.720 and one of the songs on there I'm pretty sure 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:10.640 was all in Spanish um I was about to name like 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.319 what I thought it was but I was like that's not 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.500 the name of the song at all but um but yeah is 00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:18.480 that something that has happened a lot or was 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.299 a or do you know if was it ever explained why 00:31:21.299 --> 00:31:23.529 she's like oh I just love the way the language 00:31:23.529 --> 00:31:26.849 works or yeah i don't know a lot of that i do 00:31:26.849 --> 00:31:30.829 know this song is based on a poem by a poet named 00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:36.670 um pablo naruta uh -huh um and so um i think 00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:41.190 maybe um maybe they were really big in spanish 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:46.410 poetry yeah i don't know the reason um for it 00:31:46.410 --> 00:31:49.049 but like like you said they it's not the only 00:31:49.049 --> 00:31:50.730 time they've done it although they haven't done 00:31:50.730 --> 00:31:54.029 it a ton I'm also guessing that Sixpence is probably 00:31:54.029 --> 00:31:58.789 huge in Spain. You know, I mean, who knows? Yeah. 00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:01.490 And so maybe this is just like a love letter 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:05.890 to like their fans there. Yeah. I don't know. 00:32:06.150 --> 00:32:10.950 But it is really interesting. I kind of musically, 00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:14.490 it's pretty fascinating, especially towards the 00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:18.480 end. It kind of feels like the high point of 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.019 the album like musically at the end. You've got 00:32:21.019 --> 00:32:25.559 the strings It's very orchestral and big drums 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.740 Like there's just a lot going on it feels really 00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:33.420 big it also sits like right at the middle of 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:36.140 the record Mm -hmm. And so I kind of feel like 00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:38.759 it's just serving is like this kind of high musical 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.460 point That's like really intense towards the 00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:44.220 end and I think her vocals are great. Like yeah, 00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:48.700 yeah She captures the passion of it well, even 00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:52.880 if we don't know exactly what she's saying. Our 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.460 next one is I Can't Catch You. I love this song. 00:32:58.059 --> 00:33:00.619 I was like, I don't think there's gonna be another 00:33:00.619 --> 00:33:05.140 song that rivals Kiss Me. But I really love this 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:07.539 song. I felt like I just found myself really 00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:12.420 getting into it. The guitars are so good on this 00:33:12.420 --> 00:33:17.119 song. They're perfect. If you asked me to pick 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:22.539 a song that is the epitome of 90s guitar pop, 00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:25.700 I would probably pick this song. Just because 00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:28.940 they're perfect. They play off each other in 00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:31.519 this beautiful way, kind of like back and forth. 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.779 It is kind of like the this is like the other 00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:38.619 pop song on the record Mm -hmm, but in a little 00:33:38.619 --> 00:33:41.420 like more kind of guitar. Yeah rocking kind of 00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:44.539 way And so yeah, this one's always been one that 00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:48.500 I love a lot. So great great song Alright track 00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:53.380 eight the lines of my earth Thoughts I think 00:33:53.380 --> 00:33:58.680 it's another album highlight Lyrically, I really 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:03.799 enjoyed it I think, too, it made me start thinking, 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:05.920 oh, I like that I'm towards the end of this album 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.700 and there's still stuff that I'm like, oh, I 00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:12.159 like this. Because I think one thing that I've 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:19.079 noticed about music now is, for you, it might 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.940 be different because you might be like, oh, I 00:34:20.940 --> 00:34:24.059 can answer that right now. But just on average, 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:28.139 I feel like most albums I listen to now are 30 00:34:28.139 --> 00:34:30.619 maybe 40 minutes. Like it's just each song is 00:34:30.619 --> 00:34:33.460 three minutes. Maybe you get that one four minute 00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:38.219 song but for this one it clocked in at I want 00:34:38.219 --> 00:34:41.039 to say a little over an hour. It was like 13 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:44.559 tracks. So I caught myself at one point being 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.400 like, okay, this is like this album is going 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.239 for a while and so Like it wasn't that it was 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.420 bad. It was just I was like, oh it didn't expect 00:34:53.420 --> 00:34:57.949 to dedicate this much time to it but yeah I really 00:34:57.949 --> 00:35:00.750 loved it and I loved that it kind of just spotlighted 00:35:00.750 --> 00:35:02.989 that even towards the end of it there's still 00:35:02.989 --> 00:35:06.389 it's not just front loading all of it and I think 00:35:06.389 --> 00:35:09.090 it goes back to you don't have this giant label 00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:12.530 stepping in and being like okay let's do this 00:35:12.530 --> 00:35:16.329 let's cut that it's oh for better or worse like 00:35:16.329 --> 00:35:18.590 you know maybe a label would have chose a better 00:35:18.590 --> 00:35:21.210 opening track but you know like yeah for six 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:23.610 pence it was no we want to have this one here 00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:27.550 and this is what we want to do Yeah, I really 00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:30.210 really love this song. I think it's probably 00:35:30.210 --> 00:35:34.789 my favorite one on the record I Don't I don't 00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:37.590 know what it is, but it everything just works 00:35:37.590 --> 00:35:42.989 for me the piano. It's like jazzy I think man 00:35:42.989 --> 00:35:48.050 The vocal melody is just gorgeous and works so 00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:50.829 well with her voice. I like literally wrote down 00:35:50.829 --> 00:35:56.420 in my notes How is this song so good? Don't even 00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:59.440 I remember probably about five years ago listening 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.800 to this album for the first time in several years 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.840 and I got to this point and I was just like Man, 00:36:06.219 --> 00:36:09.860 like I like forgot about this song and it's so 00:36:09.860 --> 00:36:13.139 so so good. It's another one about about the 00:36:13.139 --> 00:36:18.610 music industry. Yeah but They also do this like 00:36:18.610 --> 00:36:22.449 beautiful like music building into the last chorus 00:36:22.449 --> 00:36:25.809 I don't yeah this this is a perfect song for 00:36:25.809 --> 00:36:29.210 me like Everything just works. Yeah. Well, so 00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:32.809 I love it. I love it. That's awesome All right 00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:37.909 track 9 sister mother I Wrote down. It's just 00:36:37.909 --> 00:36:42.269 it's a song Like I felt like this one this one 00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:46.079 in the opener were the two tracks that Felt like 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:53.039 if you if you took it off the album Like it doesn't 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.300 really like change it at all I will say later 00:36:57.300 --> 00:37:00.380 on when I was looking through like the lyrics 00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:03.539 and got a little more context it made more sense 00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:05.800 I was like, okay because more of it was me just 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.539 kind of figuring out. Okay, what are I? Don't 00:37:08.539 --> 00:37:10.179 like sometimes there's just songs I listen to 00:37:10.179 --> 00:37:11.739 and I'm like, what are they trying to go for? 00:37:11.780 --> 00:37:14.250 This is one of them that I'm like what? What 00:37:14.250 --> 00:37:18.250 is the message, or what is the story behind this? 00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:21.030 So yeah, I kind of just maybe keep thinking, 00:37:21.230 --> 00:37:25.050 what's going on? Yeah, yeah. It's not one of 00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:27.329 my favorite songs on the record, but I think 00:37:27.329 --> 00:37:31.369 it fits the record really well, so I get why 00:37:31.369 --> 00:37:34.289 it's there. For me, it's not until close to the 00:37:34.289 --> 00:37:37.190 end of the song where I'm like, okay, I'm in 00:37:37.190 --> 00:37:41.769 on this. There's a part where, at the very end, 00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.539 like on the last chorus a guitar comes in and 00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:49.500 her vocals like jump the octave um and it's just 00:37:49.500 --> 00:37:51.860 it's really interesting as to like what they've 00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:54.739 built to like be able to get there yeah um but 00:37:54.739 --> 00:37:57.679 that's probably the highlight of it for me so 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:03.619 uh next track is i won't stay long um how'd you 00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:09.150 feel about this one yeah i so This was one where 00:38:09.150 --> 00:38:12.150 as I was reading through this I saw people talk 00:38:12.150 --> 00:38:14.389 about how this was like a highlight of the record 00:38:14.389 --> 00:38:18.570 Uh -huh, and I was trying to remember What is 00:38:18.570 --> 00:38:21.869 that song like even remember how it goes? Yeah 00:38:21.869 --> 00:38:26.829 but I yeah, I like this one like it's a really 00:38:26.829 --> 00:38:34.210 simple song about seasonal depression But But 00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:38.449 it works. I think the vocals on it are so good. 00:38:38.789 --> 00:38:42.730 Her vocals on this record, as much as I even 00:38:42.730 --> 00:38:46.010 love this beautiful mess and other six pence 00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:50.170 work, I think her vocals on this album are probably 00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:53.929 unmatched to anything that she's ever done. And 00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:56.349 so I think the song's a really good example of 00:38:56.349 --> 00:39:00.829 that. Yeah, I was going to say, I think it felt 00:39:00.829 --> 00:39:04.699 more like an interlude. but I think it was a 00:39:04.699 --> 00:39:08.179 highlight of the album too and I um because I 00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:11.119 think some of their songs and it it's kind of 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.199 the same thoughts I have going back to comparing 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.739 them to Jars of Clay is that sometimes a song 00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:19.500 is really good but I'll think oh do we have to 00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:21.980 have that like two minute like music interlude 00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:24.599 during the song you know or after the singing 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.900 and so to me this was just a like it's a trimmed 00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:33.239 down like song and um it made me think too like 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:35.119 as an opener I feel like it would have been a 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.860 really cool like either this album or just a 00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:40.960 concert I'm like if I was at a concert and this 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.179 starts playing I'm like all right we're in for 00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:48.320 a show um so yeah I love this song I love that 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.139 that's great that's good yeah it's a great tune 00:39:51.139 --> 00:39:59.679 all right track number 11 love I think I don't 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:05.989 know if I have any notes on that one Oh Well, 00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:08.449 I'll kind of talk through my thoughts while you 00:40:08.449 --> 00:40:12.690 kind of remember where you are but Yeah, this 00:40:12.690 --> 00:40:15.789 one I love the drums kind of kicking into it. 00:40:15.789 --> 00:40:18.989 This is another one of those moments where You 00:40:18.989 --> 00:40:21.670 get a transition from the last song kind of straight 00:40:21.670 --> 00:40:26.469 into this. Yeah kind of a seamless thing This 00:40:26.469 --> 00:40:31.940 song is really so This song is the most akin 00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:35.659 to their previous record this beautiful mess 00:40:35.659 --> 00:40:40.099 Just kind of the crazy out there super delayed 00:40:40.099 --> 00:40:52.679 guitars That baseline Like It's cool it sets 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:59.349 like a really neat groove and then I for me I 00:40:59.349 --> 00:41:01.750 kind of feel like that this this song's like 00:41:01.750 --> 00:41:04.090 the answer to the whole record because yeah a 00:41:04.090 --> 00:41:08.030 lot of the records about frustration with the 00:41:08.030 --> 00:41:12.670 music industry or depression anxiety a lot of 00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:15.630 these different things and then you get to this 00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:19.969 point in the album and basically it all turns 00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:23.650 into this answer of I need love it is patience 00:41:23.650 --> 00:41:27.800 it is kindness I need love And it's like love 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.719 is the answer To the question that they've been 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.360 like, yeah throughout the record. And so I kind 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.579 of like like that thematically Moving moving 00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:42.900 out of this. Yeah, I as someone who has no notes 00:41:42.900 --> 00:41:47.320 for the song I will say yes, I agree with what 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.840 was said I really feel like this is a song that 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.739 you would love I don't know if you missed it 00:41:52.739 --> 00:41:56.239 or what but I don't know I I will say One thing 00:41:56.239 --> 00:42:02.539 that I think happened was I went to a chat GPT 00:42:02.539 --> 00:42:04.719 and I was like, hey, I didn't want to type out 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.559 everything. So I'm like, give me the track listing. 00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:08.920 And when I started going through making my notes, 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.039 some of the songs weren't on there. So I think 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.019 it might've pulled for maybe like a re -release 00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:15.480 or something. So there were some tracks on here 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.960 that I'm like, this isn't even on this album. 00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.619 So then it made me start thinking, oh man, I 00:42:20.619 --> 00:42:23.929 hope we don't record and then realize that There 00:42:23.929 --> 00:42:25.969 is a you know, cuz for this I don't know if you 00:42:25.969 --> 00:42:28.690 were your Apple music or if you were going off 00:42:28.690 --> 00:42:31.710 of like The vinyl but I'm like man. I really 00:42:31.710 --> 00:42:33.690 hope it's not one of those weird Spotify things 00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:36.130 where they You know for legal reasons they're 00:42:36.130 --> 00:42:38.110 taking out two of the tracks or something There's 00:42:38.110 --> 00:42:40.130 a there's a lot of different versions of this 00:42:40.130 --> 00:42:44.550 album. The original has 12 tracks It doesn't 00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:47.630 have there she goes at the end. Yes then they 00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:49.710 kind of tagged on There She Goes when it became 00:42:49.710 --> 00:42:53.070 a single onto the record and brought it up to 00:42:53.070 --> 00:42:59.289 13. I think you would love this one. We'll have 00:42:59.289 --> 00:43:01.570 to give it a listen. Our next song is Moving 00:43:01.570 --> 00:43:09.989 On. I really liked the build. It made me think 00:43:09.989 --> 00:43:13.170 of when you're at a concert and they play that 00:43:13.170 --> 00:43:17.000 really cool song at the end. tied to end the 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.679 show and then at the end that's where they come 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.320 back out for their encore and it's like there 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.179 she goes it made me think where it's like man 00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:28.219 this is really cool like this is a really cool 00:43:28.219 --> 00:43:31.840 build um see i think it was a great i know it's 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.940 not the official like album like ender yeah um 00:43:34.940 --> 00:43:38.079 i guess from what you were saying so yeah so 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.619 yeah it makes a lot of sense i think that um 00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:44.579 Even like if you remove there she goes it still 00:43:44.579 --> 00:43:46.739 stands as like the album could end here and I'm 00:43:46.739 --> 00:43:50.940 very yeah Content. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a 00:43:50.940 --> 00:43:54.360 great song. No doubt I love how the like guitars 00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.340 and strings are working together at the end Yeah, 00:43:57.340 --> 00:44:00.699 cool thing about this too is Matt Slocum who's? 00:44:00.820 --> 00:44:02.800 The chief songwriter. He pretty much wrote the 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.360 lyrics for the whole record or most of them and 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:11.429 guitarist for six bits also He's the guy that 00:44:11.429 --> 00:44:14.909 played cello on the record. So it's kind of cool 00:44:14.909 --> 00:44:17.349 in that way. That to me, things like that bring 00:44:17.349 --> 00:44:19.849 it down to like a, they didn't just hire some 00:44:19.849 --> 00:44:22.110 orchestra to come in and write parts. Like he 00:44:22.110 --> 00:44:24.590 wrote all these parts and had these things working 00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:28.179 together with the guitar so well. and so I um 00:44:28.179 --> 00:44:31.059 yeah I love love love that part uh love how all 00:44:31.059 --> 00:44:33.360 that works together I think it's a great closer 00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.960 um but then yeah we have the bonus that got added 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.820 on a little later um there she goes which is 00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:41.960 probably another one that we kind of most people 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:45.380 know yeah maybe even more than the original of 00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:48.360 this song yeah yeah what were your thoughts on 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.320 there she goes yeah I um I really liked it and 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.659 I think that it's always impressive when a band 00:44:53.659 --> 00:44:58.909 can like take a Song and make a cover and make 00:44:58.909 --> 00:45:01.650 it their own where there's people that are like 00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:03.989 they know it more than the original because I 00:45:03.989 --> 00:45:08.489 think that's really hard to to do Yeah, I think 00:45:08.489 --> 00:45:12.389 I think it was really cool. I I do think it is 00:45:12.389 --> 00:45:17.730 interesting to think of like people who I Could 00:45:17.730 --> 00:45:19.849 see it making people upset because if you if 00:45:19.849 --> 00:45:22.630 you listen to it when this first came out I could 00:45:22.630 --> 00:45:24.980 see them being annoyed going. All right we end 00:45:24.980 --> 00:45:26.980 up this really epic note why are we having this 00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:30.760 like silly pop song but i think for me it's like 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.420 yeah i like it because i it's i i know them like 00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:37.400 i know that they had sang it so even when i looked 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.039 at the tracklist originally i was like okay i 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:41.940 know at least there'll be two songs like on this 00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:44.460 so like this i won't be getting like a zero we'll 00:45:44.460 --> 00:45:48.099 definitely be getting there's a one there you 00:45:48.099 --> 00:45:52.940 know yeah i um So the original version of There 00:45:52.940 --> 00:45:57.219 She Goes was by a band called The Laws. And it's 00:45:57.219 --> 00:45:59.099 totally one -hit wonders, right? It's the only 00:45:59.099 --> 00:46:00.679 song of theirs that ever really went anywhere. 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.739 Although I would recommend Fair Record that this 00:46:03.739 --> 00:46:07.579 is on. It's really good. And it's also like a 00:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.320 nine. It's so funny Like it's a 90s pop song 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.940 and sixpence just covered it in the 90s and like 00:46:13.940 --> 00:46:17.380 took it through another like level But I heard 00:46:17.380 --> 00:46:20.420 it the first time when I watched the movie. So 00:46:20.420 --> 00:46:22.460 I'm here to an axe murderer I don't know if you've 00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:24.559 ever seen that Mike Myers movie. It's hilarious. 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.250 But in that movie It's like, it's a comedy bit 00:46:29.250 --> 00:46:31.869 that they do that you usually have different 00:46:31.869 --> 00:46:34.449 songs like transition you from one scene to another. 00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:37.369 But pretty much every musical transition in the 00:46:37.369 --> 00:46:40.750 whole movie is there she goes by the laws. And 00:46:40.750 --> 00:46:43.170 so it just becomes this like funny thing of like, 00:46:43.329 --> 00:46:46.429 oh, there's that song again. And so when I heard 00:46:46.429 --> 00:46:48.889 Sixpence cover it, I'm like, I love that song. 00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:53.500 but um but yeah yeah it's good um i agree with 00:46:53.500 --> 00:46:55.780 you moving on is a better closer but i understand 00:46:55.780 --> 00:46:58.599 uh this is where record labels get involved and 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.199 then they're like no we got to put that song 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.360 on the album somewhere yeah so people will buy 00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.780 it yeah yeah that's good all right well that 00:47:06.780 --> 00:47:11.420 covers all the tracks at least in in um normal 00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:14.579 senses there today there are even more re -releases 00:47:14.579 --> 00:47:17.260 with even more songs on them yeah um but we'll 00:47:17.260 --> 00:47:21.960 just kind of leave it leave it there um so what 00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.760 what would you kind of looking at the song overall 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.860 what what was your overall thoughts on it and 00:47:27.860 --> 00:47:31.820 maybe your overall rating um i think overall 00:47:31.820 --> 00:47:35.980 like i said going into it i was thinking like 00:47:35.980 --> 00:47:39.880 i hope i like this album um but also i was i 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.059 was really prepared to be like hey this isn't 00:47:43.059 --> 00:47:46.400 i'm i was very comfortable with saying Am the 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:48.559 fan that only likes these two songs and nothing 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:53.280 else they've done But I I found myself really 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:58.619 loving this album. I think the I think other 00:47:58.619 --> 00:48:02.519 than like kiss me I think that like I won't stay 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.420 long is probably like my track of the album I 00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:10.380 think as a whole, I'm gonna go with 4 .5 for 00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:12.699 the album. Wow, that's awesome. I love that. 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.179 I was very nervous. I told you this going into 00:48:15.179 --> 00:48:17.000 this. I was very nervous about your thoughts 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.699 on this record because it's one that I love so 00:48:19.699 --> 00:48:26.280 much. And so I kind of have, to try and be fair 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.920 to myself, the route that I've taken to kind 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.650 of rate these albums is to... Actually write 00:48:32.650 --> 00:48:35.389 every track one out of five. Yeah, and then get 00:48:35.389 --> 00:48:40.489 the overall rating and so and Legally speaking 00:48:40.489 --> 00:48:43.909 my rating of this album is four point three three 00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:46.250 three three three three three three three ongoing 00:48:46.250 --> 00:48:49.510 But I think in my heart it probably holds a four 00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.389 point five. Uh -huh So it's cool to see that 00:48:52.389 --> 00:48:55.250 we're kind of on the same page. Yeah This one 00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:57.730 never gets old for me. I don't it's you know, 00:48:57.809 --> 00:48:59.630 it's not an album I listen to every week, but 00:48:59.630 --> 00:49:02.809 every time I put it on Um, I love it and I love 00:49:02.809 --> 00:49:07.110 most of it. And so I think, um, I highly recommend 00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:12.349 it for people who, um, just want something that's 00:49:12.349 --> 00:49:17.030 like easy to like listen to you, but challenging 00:49:17.030 --> 00:49:20.090 at the same, at the same point in time. Um, the 00:49:20.090 --> 00:49:23.230 whole record is not kiss me if that's your, your, 00:49:23.289 --> 00:49:27.199 um, thoughts about what this band is. It's a 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:28.780 part of who they are, but it's not everything. 00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:31.039 There's so much more there. So highly, highly 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.900 recommend that people check it out. All right. 00:49:34.420 --> 00:49:37.920 We are going to talk about the lyric of the week. 00:49:50.219 --> 00:49:53.809 All right. So the lyric of the week from the 00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:56.369 album Sixpence None the Richer by Sixpence None 00:49:56.369 --> 00:49:59.150 the Richer comes from what Brandon and I believe 00:49:59.150 --> 00:50:02.030 should have been the opening track to the album, 00:50:02.730 --> 00:50:06.570 the song Anything, and it's this, if we should 00:50:06.570 --> 00:50:10.250 pack our tents, shut down the show, yes, we should 00:50:10.250 --> 00:50:14.010 like to see a burning bush type sign, but anything 00:50:14.010 --> 00:50:17.949 would be fine. It just reminds me of that idea 00:50:17.949 --> 00:50:23.179 that sometimes we want like such clarity in life. 00:50:23.260 --> 00:50:26.059 It's like we want God to speak to us in this 00:50:26.059 --> 00:50:28.699 like huge way that's like super clear. I know 00:50:28.699 --> 00:50:31.599 where I'm going. Like that's the thing that we 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.980 yearn for, but then in reality we're just like 00:50:33.980 --> 00:50:36.860 anything would be fine. Just give me something, 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.500 give me some direction. And so I love just the 00:50:39.500 --> 00:50:42.940 honesty that's there and that that's where the 00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:45.019 song title comes from. Anything. Just anything. 00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:49.150 Anything would be fine. All right. Well that 00:50:49.150 --> 00:50:53.730 brings us to an end for this so Just highlighting 00:50:53.730 --> 00:50:58.949 where people can listen to us. So we are on X 00:50:58.949 --> 00:51:03.389 or Twitter at at Hey, are you pod? We also have 00:51:03.389 --> 00:51:06.829 a Facebook page now Hey, are you listening so 00:51:06.829 --> 00:51:11.210 you can find us there? And I think on on X you 00:51:11.210 --> 00:51:14.800 can follow both of our individual Twitters as 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.159 well. 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