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Well, welcome to Hey, Are You Listening? This

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is our second episode. It's a podcast exploring

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the past, the present, and the future of Christian

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music. My name is Joel, and I'm here with my

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good friend Brandon. And we connected over a

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mutual love for some artists that we both care

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about, but we also have pretty different taste

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when it comes to music. And so we get to introduce

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each other to new artists while also inviting

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some friends along for the ride. And today we

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have a friend here with us. Brandon, would you

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like to introduce our guest? Yes, we have someone

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that I'm kind of acquaintances with. It's my

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wife, Jordan. And we know each other very briefly.

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So yeah, we have Jordan on and pretty pumped

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up. Me and Jordan, one of our passions is listening

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to music and going to concerts. So it's pretty

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exciting to have her on here to share her opinions

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and bring her love of music on. Cool. I'm excited.

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I'm excited too. Mostly because I know this is

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going to be like way better than the first episode

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because Jordan is on the mic. So it's going to

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be great. I don't know. It might be a train wreck.

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Who knows? You may never ask me to be back again.

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Well, tell us a little bit about yourself, who

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you are and then like how you entered into the

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world of Christian music. Okay. My name is Jordan

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Lorick. I'm married to Brandon Lorick. I am a

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physical therapist assistant by day, music lover

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by night. I feel like that sounded kind of cheesy.

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I'm trying to think of like who I am in a nutshell.

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I grew up in church, so like Christian music

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has always kind of been around, but I grew up

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in a... old school Southern Baptist Church, so

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like hymns were around too. So I like a good

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gospel hymn. Yeah, I don't know what else to

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say about myself. I will say when it comes to

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music, I learned very quickly when I made my

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first mixtape for Jordan that Jordan is way more

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of a music fan than a lyric fan. So when it comes

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to music, she's way more of a... she doesn't...

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she rarely wants it to make her sit down like

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think through big ideas instead it's like i want

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it to make me move and get up and i want it to

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sound good that's a bit that's about it like

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i i can listen to instrumental music all day

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it doesn't even have to have a lyric brandon

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on the other hand it has to have a lyric like

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that means something big. If it's a throwaway

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trash lyric, he's not listening to it. I was

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about to say, I think Brandon's showing his cards

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a little bit here, revealing like the things

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that he really cares about when it comes to songs

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or songwriting, which is cool. We all come at

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it from a different angle. And I think both matter

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to me, though. I probably lean a little more

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in the direction of Jordan and the music matters.

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But I've been a musician for a lot of my life.

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So what were some of the first like Christian

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artists that you really connected with? Like

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we were talking earlier, I feel like the first

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core memory of a concert that I went to that

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was a Christian artist was 10th Avenue North.

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It was a free concert. I think I was in the eighth

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or ninth grade and I thought I was so cool because

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I got to see them and I got to meet them afterwards

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and they sang to me in the meet and greet and

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I was like, oh man, 10th Avenue North sang to

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me. I think I posted about it on my Facebook

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and like it comes back up in my memories and

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I kind of cringe a little bit when I see it because

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I'm like, ooh, I thought that I was so cool.

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But yeah, I feel like that was the first. uh

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concert that i remember going to and then i would

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hear them on the radio and i was like oh man

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i saw them in concert that's so cool so i guess

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like 10th avenue north would be the first band

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that i remember that's cool that's a good entry

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point i think like concerts i feel like for me

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were a big draw into the world of Christian music.

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My first Christian rock concert, this is going

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to date me a little bit, was Petra. I was in

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middle school and at youth camp and they played

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at the youth camp I was at. I never turned back

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after that. That was all I needed. That was the

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life change. Yeah, it was. It was the moment

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when everything shifted and everything changed.

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When we have our guests, we like for them to

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help bring something to us, to introduce something

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to us for the first time. But you know this already,

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right Brandon, this one? Yeah, this is an album

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that I... I grew up with and listened to a ton

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when I was younger. So Jordan, what album did

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you bring to us this week? I bring to you the

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gift of Family Force V, Dance or Die. It's so

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dang catchy. So we're going to get into Dance

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or Die in just a little bit. And I'm looking

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forward to the conversation about it. But before

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we get there, we are going to play a little game

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called Who Would You Listen To? And so this is

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a moment for me to be able to put the two of

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you on the spot and I'm gonna give you two artists

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and you need to tell me out of the two just quickly

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who you would listen to and we can talk about

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why afterwards if we want to. But we're gonna

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start off, we're gonna start off really simple.

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with a couple of more well -known artists and

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we'll get a little deeper as we go. So the first

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big one that we will launch with is DC Talk or

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Newsboys? You want to go first or? I guess I'll

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go first. Well, so taking the current stance

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out of like the playing field, Newsboys all day

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long. that I feel like Newsboys has much catchier

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tunes. And honestly, they feel well, I've never

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seen a DC talk concert, but I've seen a Newsboys

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concert. And whenever you start flipping a drum

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kit, I feel like that changes the game. That's

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all I'm saying. Okay, Brandon, I'll take DC talk.

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Yeah, I think I have to lean towards DC talk

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as well. I have seen them in concert Of course,

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they were like fighting over vocal parts the

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whole time But but they're great live Yeah, I

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feel like DC talk was always kind of on the cutting

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edge a little bit of where Christian music was

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All right. Good. Good. Let's go a little deeper

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Maybe controversial as well switch but or skillet.

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Are you wanting me to go first? Yeah, we can

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go. You can go first. I feel like I was already

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saying the word before I asked, Switchfoot all

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day long. Oh yeah, Switchfoot. Yeah, Switchfoot's

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one of my favorite bands. I love Switchfoot.

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Yeah, so we have a mutual love. We'll have to

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have you back on when we cover a Switchfoot record.

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Yes, please. That'll be great. So what's your

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favorite Switchfoot record? I don't know. I like

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all of it. I feel like whenever we went to see

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them back in whenever that was May, they like

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every single song I was back in middle school

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singing like switch foot. I love it. So good.

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So good. No skill at love here. All right. Next

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one. Reliant K or MXPX to worlds of the Christian

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world. Reliant K or MXPX. I don't think I've

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ever even heard of MXPX. I guess I need to go

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listen to them, but I love Reliant K. I have

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a deep love for Reliant K. I completely agree

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with everything Jordan said. Never listen to

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an MXPX song. You guys are breaking mine and

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my careerist heart right now. Joel's like, he's

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like, this is supposed to be a hard quiz, not

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a like, I haven't even listened to that band

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with this other band. Love them. Before we started

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recording, I told you I might not even know some

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of these people. All right, well, I will give

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you a brief introduction to MXPX when we finish

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recording today just to get into that. So I may

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be looking forward to it. I don't know. You should

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be. All right, we'll move on. We're going to

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go a little deeper. So these may be a little

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harder. OK, I'll try and start with one of the

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easier ones first. And this one matters a lot

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to me individually in the world of Christian

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Ska Supertones or Five Iron Frenzy. I've only

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heard of Supertones. Or what was that? What is

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it? Five Iron Frenzy? Five Iron Frenzy. Was that

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the one that you showed me the other day? I don't

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remember. You showed me a lot of ska music the

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other day. And I don't remember any of it. Brandon,

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what about you? I think right now I would say

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Supertones, but from what I've listened to Five

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Iron. I think I would lean towards them if I

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heard more of their stuff because I think that's

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what's holding it back is right now there's like

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10 Super Tone songs I love and I feel like I

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could find 10 Five Iron songs I loved but yeah

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I feel like Super Tones are just more of like

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I guess like it's weird to say because I feel

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like a lot of people love them but I feel like

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they're more of the mainstream like if you're

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a Christian festival and you're inviting a ska

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band you're bringing the Super Tones in. Well,

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I'll just tell you, if you're a lyrics guy, you're

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going to lean really heavy into Five Iron Frenzy

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because Reese Roper is one of the best lyricists

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in Christian music. So they're great. So I'm

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going to go Five Iron. Although I appreciate

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the Supertones. Supertones strikes back. Love

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that record. So good. I will say, if it makes

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you feel any better, I can't even name a Supertones

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song. I just know the name of the band. That

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works. That works. All right. A little deeper,

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even more branching into some other genres. May

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or Copeland? Everybody's learning a lot about

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you two right now. I feel like I have heard the

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name Copeland, but I, again, couldn't tell you

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a song by them. I saw Copeland on tour with Switchfoot

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once. That might be where I know them from. I

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saw their name on a poster. Yeah. Yeah, I feel

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like I'm in the same boat. I feel like it's that's

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like I was going through a 90s Christian, like

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kind of trying to research bands, but then I

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got drawn back into like the 2000s of music.

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So I feel like I stopped going through all of

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the 90s ones. So yeah, this just goes to show

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you that whenever we review like a lot of these

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like 90s Christian bands, I'm going to go into

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it with a clean slate of like... That's good.

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That's what we're here for. To introduce each

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other to different kinds of things. I know you

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know one of these bands, so I'll throw this one

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out. The Chariot or Showbread? Showbread. Oh,

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Showbread. Yeah. Both great bands. But have you

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heard the Chariot? I've heard some of their stuff.

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It's just I think once again, it's just showbred

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is so ingrained and I've just I've went through

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their whole catalog. Yeah. Yeah. Love love showbred.

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All right. Well, I'm going to leave it there

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so that we don't have to get further into things

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that you may not. So we don't break your heart

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anymore? Is that what it is? Or I don't embarrass

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you because you don't know who the people are

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that I'm talking about. I need to create my own

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list and say, hey, have you heard of this band?

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You should. Skyhawk Drive? Yes. You've heard

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of them? Yes. I know, I know a lot of things

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about that. All right. So we'll move on. We're

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going to move on to what are you listening to?

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So what are some of the things that you've been

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listening to lately in the world of Christian

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music? I discovered and I don't know how I haven't

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heard of them like before this, but a couple

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of months ago we were at a thing and someone's

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playing a song and I like shazamed it and it

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was a colony house song and i was like man this

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is a really cool band and i have just been listening

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to them like non -stop um i haven't gotten i've

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listened to mainly just like the cannonballers

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album really diving into that before when i've

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seen a lot of people are like oh that's not even

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their best stuff um so yeah i've been listening

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i've really been enjoying um their stuff i feel

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like it's it just feels like very like original

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like very you just i don't know i just i appreciate

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when i listen to a band and you know they're

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enjoying what they're putting out. It's not just

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we're checking a box and releasing an album.

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Yeah, Colony House is such a great band. The

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two main guys, sons of Steven Curtis Chapman.

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So that's some Christian rock royalty right there.

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I remember seeing them. It was the first Christian

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concert I ever went to. Steven Curtis Chapman

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was doing Winter Jam. And there was a section

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where he's like, hey, like, You guys mind if

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my kids come out and play a couple of songs?

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So just mid his set, and I'm assuming like that's

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his like two sons. They just came out and played

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like two or three songs. And I just remember

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thinking like, this is just, it's cool, but it

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also just shows you like Stephen's power that

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he can be like, hey, I know this is my time,

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but I'm going to let another band come up here

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and you're all going to allow it. I feel like

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you got to see Colony House before they were

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Colony House. I'm cool. I can be like, hey, you

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guys, yeah, 20 years ago. I knew them. I knew

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them back when. Yep. That's awesome. Jordan,

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what about you? I feel like cliche, Forrest Frank.

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He's just been saturating a lot. So I feel like

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I hear him all the time. But then also Josiah,

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now I'm blanking on his last name. Josiah Queen?

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Is that it? I was thinking Queen, but then I

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was like, oh, I don't think that's it. But it

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is Queen. I like his stuff a lot. I actually

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found him on TikTok. I saw a video of his and

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I was like, oh, this is kind of catchy. And then

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I don't know how to say his name, Taryn, Taryn

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Wells. He's got this song called Let the Church

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Sing. And I feel like it's super like clappy,

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catchy, gospel -y. So I like that. Yeah. Jordan

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likes a jam. I do. I like to be able to bob my

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head a little bit. Yeah. Well, Forrest Frank

00:16:11.169 --> 00:16:14.549
and Josiah Queen, two artists nominated for Artist

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of the Year at the Devil Awards 2025. So it's

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pretty cool. Yeah. So I have, as of late, been

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listening to one of my favorite newer artists.

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I got him John Van Dusen and he's got a new record

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that's coming out. in october i think called

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um and i love it because it's super long it's

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called as long as i'm in the tent of this body

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i will make a joyful noise um so that's the name

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of the record and the one coming out in october

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is part one and it has 18 songs on it and then

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there's going to be a part two um and so he's

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only released four tracks off of it so far but

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they're so good and um john venducen is like

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I have loved everything that he has put out.

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He's got a really cool story about how Um, he

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was, was in a secular band and, um, God just

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brought him to a point of brokenness that led

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him into really like serving the Lord with his

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gifts. And, uh, he writes some really, really

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great stuff. And so I'm pumped for that record

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when it's coming out. And then, um, I have a

00:17:22.029 --> 00:17:24.750
buddy, Chris Staples, um, who used to be in the

00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:27.410
band two 38, which was on tooth and nail records.

00:17:27.549 --> 00:17:29.529
Um, the band that I used to be in, we used to

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tour around with them a little bit. Um, and he

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just put out a new record called Don't Worry.

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Um, and it's great. Chris Staples stuff's really

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good. A little quirky, acousticky. Uh, it's a

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lot of fun. So if you're into that kind of stuff,

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you should check that out. So good. All right.

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Well, I forget because Brandon's probably going

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to get mad at me because I didn't bring them

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up. We have collectively, we've been listening

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to a lot of Gable Price and friends. I feel like

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I got to shout them out together. There you go.

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I love it. I love it. All right. All right, so

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today we're asking the question, hey, are you

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listening to Dance or Die by Family Force 5?

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So give us a little background on the record

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for some research that I put together. So Dance

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or Die is the second studio album from Family

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Force 5. and their first release on Tooth and

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Nail Records. It was released on August 19th,

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2008. I thought this was really interesting.

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Blake Solomon of AbsolutePunk .net said this

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about the album. Even though Family Force 5 may

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be the musical equivalent of mixing Mentos and

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Coke, lots of buildup for something that only

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ever happens one way, I find myself oddly pleased

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with Dance or Die. In its first week, it sold

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17 ,000 copies, debuted at 30 on the Billboard

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200. By the end of January, it had sold over

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50 ,000 units. In December 2008, the band won

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the Best Christian Rock Artist, Best Crunk Rock

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Slash Rap Artist, and Best Rock Album for Dance

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or Die at the Rock on Request Awards. All right.

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You guys have history with this. This is new

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for me, so tell me about how this record came

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into your life. Do you want to go first? Sure.

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I was telling Joel earlier that I think that

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Family Force V is the Star Wars of the Christian

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music industry. And what I mean by that is that

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you have people that love Star Wars, but they

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love one section of it, like they love the originals,

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or they love the prequels, or they love Disney,

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or they hate one of the section or whatever.

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And I feel like Family Force Five is a lot like

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that. Like they're, I guess they're four main

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things. You have like Business Up Front, Dance

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or Die, The Third, and I'm forgetting the one

00:20:08.849 --> 00:20:10.509
they did, but they did a fourth one where it

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was like Kruton is the lead singer and all of

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those albums are completely different. So for

00:20:17.950 --> 00:20:21.890
me, I listen a ton to their goatee release, Business

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Up Front. So when I went into this album, I was

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expecting like a completely different, like it

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was a very big shift, like in my opinion, from

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what they had done previously. So I even back

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in the day had a very like almost like love -hate

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relationship where I was like I appreciate you

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guys are doing something different but like can

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you just not stick to the formula of what I love

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like keep releasing music with what I like instead

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of what you guys like um so yeah that was kind

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of my um history with the album so I what's funny

00:21:00.990 --> 00:21:05.880
is I found Family Force 5 Saturday morning on

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MTV, they had a video for Love Addict and I saw

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them. I loved them. I wrote down their name so

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I could YouTube them later. And I looked them

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up on YouTube and it was love. I loved everything

00:21:22.259 --> 00:21:26.359
that they had out there to that point. That was

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probably, I was maybe in the ninth grade whenever

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I found them. So I don't think they had released

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Dance or Die yet. I think they released it when

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I was in... I don't even remember when. But I

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remember I would drive to school and I would

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crank it after I would drop my mom off because

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me and my mom drove to... It's not mom music.

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Yeah. Well, she would love it. She loves it.

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But I would drop her off at her work and then

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I would drive literally two minutes down the

00:22:03.990 --> 00:22:06.369
road to my school. So I would only have time

00:22:06.369 --> 00:22:10.549
to listen to one song and I cranked it. Uh, as

00:22:10.549 --> 00:22:12.910
I was pulling into the school and I would park,

00:22:13.089 --> 00:22:14.789
go to school, then come back out and I would

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drive probably about five minutes from school

00:22:19.029 --> 00:22:22.039
to my grandma's house. where I stayed until my

00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:24.079
mom got off of work so I could go pick her up.

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So like that was my after school. I would crank

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it up and like just this whole album, it was

00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:37.059
man, I don't have a care in the world. This is

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awesome music. Yeah, I feel like that's how I

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how I found family force 5 and then with this

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album like the connection that I have with it

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It's just like being in high school not caring

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about anything. Just listening to music No for

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you Joel. I know you said that like you're not

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really familiar but like can you remember any

00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.779
like Blips where someone randomly was like, oh

00:23:03.779 --> 00:23:07.180
this band's doing this or you saw a snippet of

00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:09.500
like love I did like are there any parts where

00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:12.099
you're like, I didn't know about them But I do

00:23:12.099 --> 00:23:14.700
remember someone mentioning like we love them

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or this band's horrible or whatever Yeah, and

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so when I say I don't like I don't have a lot

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of history with them I mean that I never like

00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.660
got a record and spent time listening to it I

00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:29.619
definitely like had this idea of what Family

00:23:29.619 --> 00:23:34.059
Force V is in my head. Yeah. And I saw them even

00:23:34.059 --> 00:23:36.799
I think play it like a winter jam one year or

00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.680
something. And all I remember is the lead singer

00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:44.039
like had a big like Hulk fist or whatever. Yeah,

00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.000
like raise it up in the sky. And that was my

00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.599
big takeaway from the moment. And so I honestly

00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.480
never really gave them a shot beyond being able

00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.599
to see them live. So it's fun for me to like

00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.819
get to dig into your record. But I don't know

00:23:58.819 --> 00:24:01.940
like the history that you know of like, oh, this

00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:04.720
album was like a big like change in sound or

00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.029
whatever. So I have no idea. that it's a big

00:24:08.029 --> 00:24:11.049
change in sound. I feel like they all kind of

00:24:11.049 --> 00:24:15.609
sound the same to me. It's like synth, punk,

00:24:16.430 --> 00:24:19.349
rock. Like that's all a little bit of crunk,

00:24:19.630 --> 00:24:22.990
rappy mixed into it. But I feel like all of them

00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:25.569
kind of sound the same. It goes back to the Star

00:24:25.569 --> 00:24:27.329
Wars thing, where Jordan's the Star Wars president.

00:24:27.430 --> 00:24:29.210
I was like, listen, all the movies are great.

00:24:29.410 --> 00:24:31.349
They got we got the force. We got lightsabers.

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That's how I am with Star Wars. I feel like I

00:24:33.390 --> 00:24:35.670
love all of the Star Wars movies. It's all good,

00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:40.470
man. I do like everything Star Wars, but I do

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:42.730
certainly like some things more than others.

00:24:42.890 --> 00:24:47.089
Not me. If there's spaceships and lightsabers,

00:24:47.329 --> 00:24:50.089
you're in. Exactly. And if you throw in a Wookie,

00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:53.440
then. That's just icing on. Yes. And an Ewok

00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:57.519
is like... You're talking my language. I love

00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.039
it. I love it. I love it. All right. Well, with

00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.299
that, then let's get into this record track by

00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:06.980
track. And so if you're at home and you want

00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:08.920
to follow along with us and want to pull up the

00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.380
record, we'll talk through each track. And so

00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:13.119
you can hit play on different tracks while we're

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.519
talking about them to see if you can get a sense

00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:20.930
of where we're going with this. But... Um, yeah,

00:25:21.150 --> 00:25:22.849
we've talked a little bit about history with

00:25:22.849 --> 00:25:27.170
this any other like Big like just overall thoughts

00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:33.269
before we move into it I think for me, it's just

00:25:33.269 --> 00:25:37.829
it's it's cool that um, I know on our last episode

00:25:37.829 --> 00:25:41.170
We reviewed an album that like I never listened

00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:45.190
to so for me It's cool to go back and to find

00:25:45.190 --> 00:25:49.769
music that really impacted me and to see like,

00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:53.029
oh, does it hold up or does it not hold up? So

00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:56.250
for me, it's just it's cool going back and almost

00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:59.089
like you're jumping in a time machine because

00:25:59.089 --> 00:26:02.269
I'm like, I'm like Jordan. I remember like I

00:26:02.269 --> 00:26:05.089
can think listening to it like in the backseat

00:26:05.089 --> 00:26:07.690
of like my parents car. Or I remember like being

00:26:07.690 --> 00:26:09.970
super excited when this music video came out

00:26:09.970 --> 00:26:13.490
or whatever. So to me, like. I just love albums

00:26:13.490 --> 00:26:15.750
that have all that nostalgia because it's like,

00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:17.789
even if some of the stuff don't hold up, you're

00:26:17.789 --> 00:26:20.089
still like, it's still good. Like it brings back

00:26:20.089 --> 00:26:25.660
good memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. What

00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:29.000
was the question? I kind of blanked out. Just

00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.880
any overall like big thoughts. Sometimes Brandon

00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.140
talks and I kind of zone out. It's just you get

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:37.380
so lost in love when you listen to him. Exactly,

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:40.019
that's what it is. Sometimes I zone out when

00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:45.359
I'm talking. I think for this album, I like the

00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.980
idea that it is a concept album, that it's like

00:26:48.980 --> 00:26:52.440
this space battle and the only way to win is

00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.180
by dancing and getting your groove on. That's

00:26:55.180 --> 00:26:58.319
the only way that you can fight these forces

00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:01.859
that are trying to attack you. So I like the

00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:03.920
idea that it is a concept album and it tells

00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:06.740
a story throughout. But I feel like track for

00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:10.299
track, I feel like it's a good track, like individually,

00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:14.859
it's just good. Yeah, yeah. So again, like entering

00:27:14.859 --> 00:27:19.339
into it for me, I I had this perception of Family

00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:24.019
Force V, right, that I thought as I was walking

00:27:24.019 --> 00:27:26.500
into it. And so it was fun to be able to dig

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:30.619
into it and realize, okay, well, there's like

00:27:30.619 --> 00:27:34.200
more here than I like originally thought when

00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.339
I was thinking about this record. And for me,

00:27:37.460 --> 00:27:42.160
like, it may not be like the thing that I like

00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.079
am like. really wanting to listen to in a record.

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.380
It's a little overproduced for me. I like a little

00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:51.460
more of an organic feel to an album. We were

00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:54.160
talking about that yesterday, actually. So it's

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.200
very produced, but that's okay, because that's

00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:01.279
what it is. And so I was really excited to take

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.839
it for what it is and dig into it and see what's

00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.559
there. So let's do that. Let's look first at

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.000
track number one, which is the title track for

00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.160
the record, Dance or Die. What do you guys think

00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:19.000
about this one? For me, like back in the day,

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.359
it was like, I was like, oh, this is going to

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.240
be a very different album when I heard it. Um,

00:28:24.660 --> 00:28:29.299
but like having that stuff aside, um, I think

00:28:29.299 --> 00:28:32.460
it's, it's very produced and there's a lot going

00:28:32.460 --> 00:28:37.500
on, but I think it's, it works. Like it works

00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:39.380
where there is a lot going on, but like Jordan

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:43.079
said, it's like, The whole idea of the song is

00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.920
this is a space battle and we have to dance to

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.559
destroy the evil forces. So I feel like it's

00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:54.180
so over the top and it works because it is like,

00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.339
yeah, we're not trying to put out this amazing

00:28:56.339 --> 00:28:59.339
gospel record or something. It's like, here's

00:28:59.339 --> 00:29:01.640
a song about fighting evil forces. I mean, I

00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:06.500
feel like I enjoyed it. Yeah. I feel like it's

00:29:06.500 --> 00:29:09.839
so cool that it's just like, hey, we got to dance.

00:29:10.029 --> 00:29:15.089
So let's dance and it's, it's simple. It's got

00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:18.970
good sense in it. I like how it starts like super

00:29:18.970 --> 00:29:25.849
low, like the and then it's like, like it pops

00:29:25.849 --> 00:29:30.289
into it with the, with the song. And then, um,

00:29:30.309 --> 00:29:35.250
the transmission radio radio, like how it just

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:38.569
is like, yeah, I was, I love everything about

00:29:38.569 --> 00:29:45.049
it. This is a great song It's actually really

00:29:45.049 --> 00:29:49.049
good and it surprised me it definitely made me

00:29:49.049 --> 00:29:53.910
want to dance more than die That's good. I think

00:29:53.910 --> 00:29:58.430
it maybe met its goal. Yeah, I love There's a

00:29:58.430 --> 00:30:01.269
high synth part that I think is really cool that

00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:05.910
I enjoyed. I can see why this band was as popular

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:08.430
as they are. I feel like if I played this for

00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:12.529
my kids, they would be super into it. They would

00:30:12.529 --> 00:30:14.990
really, really be about it. The idea of a dance

00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:21.430
war, it's just great. This is a great song. I

00:30:21.430 --> 00:30:23.069
would rate all these tracks. I would give it

00:30:23.069 --> 00:30:27.759
a 4 .5 out of 5. That was really good. Yeah.

00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:33.200
It's a great track. Moving on, we've got Get

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.000
Your Back Off The Wall. To me, this is one of

00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.359
the highlights of the entire record. And I think

00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.680
it's a song that kind of combines all of the

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.059
elements of Family Force V, where you have this

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:51.519
dance element, but you also have this like...

00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.299
rock guitar and this like screaming and all.

00:30:55.059 --> 00:30:57.019
So to me, I really love it because I feel like

00:30:57.019 --> 00:31:00.500
it kind of just, like I said, it combines everything.

00:31:00.539 --> 00:31:02.799
Like if you want to introduce Family Force V

00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.420
to a song or like use a song to introduce Family

00:31:05.420 --> 00:31:09.000
Force V with, like this is one of the go -to's.

00:31:09.019 --> 00:31:11.160
Like I would put this on if I had to choose three

00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.259
songs to show someone who this band was, I would.

00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.500
So I really enjoyed the song. Yeah, I think.

00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.140
my favorite part of the song is the screaming

00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:24.579
how like it starts with the uh with him just

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:26.940
saying like get your bag off the wall get your

00:31:26.940 --> 00:31:33.440
bag off the wall like i feel like that like you

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.940
have to be hyped whenever you hear it like yeah

00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:40.210
pumps you up so much yeah yeah um yeah the emo

00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:43.230
screams were like kind of fun um that kind of

00:31:43.230 --> 00:31:46.089
drew me in and in a way that draws back to my

00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:50.710
past the sound on this song is like massive like

00:31:50.710 --> 00:31:55.069
it's so big i don't know how you make that happen

00:31:55.069 --> 00:31:57.690
yeah it's so big as i was listening to it in

00:31:57.690 --> 00:32:01.910
headphones um but honestly If you were introducing

00:32:01.910 --> 00:32:04.769
me to Family Force V and played three songs,

00:32:05.089 --> 00:32:08.210
I would hope this wasn't one of the three that

00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:12.029
you would play. Because I felt like, for me,

00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:16.230
this song was like my old stereotypical view

00:32:16.230 --> 00:32:20.769
of what Family Force V is. Like the low, like,

00:32:20.890 --> 00:32:24.170
computerized vocal, like, thing. I'm like, I'm

00:32:24.170 --> 00:32:28.539
not really into that. um so it wasn't my favorite

00:32:28.539 --> 00:32:31.680
track on the record but um but i hear where you

00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.039
guys are coming from yeah yeah yeah yeah it's

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.299
a good hype up song uh next we move on to rip

00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:41.900
it up i think for me this is the first song that

00:32:41.900 --> 00:32:46.420
made me go like eh like it was the the new direction

00:32:46.420 --> 00:32:48.200
where i was like ah i feel like this just kind

00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:52.460
of like misses for me but like i said i'm i'm

00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:56.210
not like a dancey type person. So I think that

00:32:56.210 --> 00:32:59.269
like, it's I didn't like it. But I also know

00:32:59.269 --> 00:33:02.089
that like, I am not the audience for the song.

00:33:02.250 --> 00:33:04.990
So it's like, I can appreciate it. But like,

00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:07.750
for me, it's just like, I didn't really like

00:33:07.750 --> 00:33:11.210
care for it. What gets me is the guitar hook

00:33:11.210 --> 00:33:15.940
right after the chorus. after it sings like,

00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.779
and then it's like, I feel like that draws me

00:33:22.779 --> 00:33:26.200
in. That's my favorite part of the song. Yeah,

00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:30.039
I like this one. I think I think it could use

00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.000
a little slimming down. And by that, I mean,

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.650
like, I think the melody like suffers a little

00:33:38.650 --> 00:33:41.750
bit the chorus is like a two -part chorus yeah

00:33:41.750 --> 00:33:44.250
and it's almost like i would throw away the first

00:33:44.250 --> 00:33:46.190
part of the chorus because it doesn't do anything

00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:48.250
for me but i feel like the second half of the

00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:51.390
chorus when it hits the rip it up part is great

00:33:51.390 --> 00:33:56.390
and it's catchy and i'm like in on it yeah like

00:33:56.390 --> 00:33:58.569
just do that like we don't need the rest of this

00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:01.630
it's okay like we can simplify it and make it

00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:03.769
a better song but but i liked it i thought it

00:34:03.769 --> 00:34:09.159
was good yeah Track number four, How in the World.

00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:14.739
I was ready for this after the first three songs,

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.139
which were really big. I was really ready for

00:34:19.139 --> 00:34:24.949
track number four to hit. I love this one. What

00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:27.130
do you guys think about this one? So this used

00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:32.530
to be a skip track. I did not like this song

00:34:32.530 --> 00:34:35.250
in high school. Whenever I first started listening

00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:39.090
to this album, I would blast the first three

00:34:39.090 --> 00:34:42.349
and then be like, I don't want to sit here and

00:34:42.349 --> 00:34:46.599
just listen and like... Like I want something

00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.780
that's like bomb bomb bomb and so I would always

00:34:49.780 --> 00:34:54.400
skip it but since Even up until we decided that

00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.239
we were gonna do this album I was like, oh, I

00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.760
guess I need to listen to this song and listening

00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.099
back to it. I'm like man. This is a pretty good

00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:05.579
song So I feel like my opinions have changed

00:35:05.579 --> 00:35:10.400
From high school Jordan to now 32 year old Jordan.

00:35:10.699 --> 00:35:15.440
I feel like I with the lyrics I feel like it's

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.659
such good lyrics and still musically not my favorite.

00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:24.500
I don't like slow songs but I feel like lyrically

00:35:24.500 --> 00:35:28.880
it's a really good song. I didn't like it. I

00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:33.519
feel like it was a skip track and like I went

00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.440
into it with like an open mind thinking like

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.760
maybe like oh like it'll shift my opinion but

00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.539
like yeah I didn't really care for it. I feel

00:35:42.539 --> 00:35:46.219
like when you're a band like Family Force V and

00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:48.420
you're known for being like what the guys say

00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:51.719
like Mentos and like Coke, I feel like it is

00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.699
a struggle to slow it down because you're expecting

00:35:55.699 --> 00:35:58.860
like a nonstop party. So I feel like it almost

00:35:58.860 --> 00:36:01.420
feels like the album comes to like a screeching

00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:04.949
halt like for me. And I guess for me, I want

00:36:04.949 --> 00:36:06.650
something a little more subtle. Whereas for you,

00:36:06.710 --> 00:36:09.889
you're like, yes, I'm waiting for us to stop

00:36:09.889 --> 00:36:12.889
so I can just sit here for a second. It's like

00:36:12.889 --> 00:36:15.369
you're stuck on the roller coaster or like the

00:36:15.369 --> 00:36:17.849
spinny ride at the fair. And each time you go

00:36:17.849 --> 00:36:20.070
around to the attendant, you're like, please

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:22.969
stop. We need off. And then it finally stops

00:36:22.969 --> 00:36:25.090
and you get off. But then somebody drags you

00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:27.730
onto another one and then you're stuck on the

00:36:27.730 --> 00:36:30.570
same loop and you're like, please stop. Yeah,

00:36:30.570 --> 00:36:33.539
I just feel like if this whole record... if all

00:36:33.539 --> 00:36:38.880
11 tracks were like tracks 1 through 3 um like

00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:43.320
I would be giving up by track five. I just couldn't

00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.239
keep going. And it's not because they're bad,

00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.900
but when you're listening to an album in succession

00:36:47.900 --> 00:36:51.639
like that, a good album has always got to have

00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.719
a change of pace. Otherwise, you exhaust your

00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.340
listener. And so I felt like this was such a

00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:04.170
good example of that. And in fact, It's a great

00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:08.070
song. The melodies are awesome. I love the like

00:37:08.070 --> 00:37:11.329
video gamey feel to the music. I felt like that

00:37:11.329 --> 00:37:15.909
was really cool. And yeah, the melodies are good.

00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:20.110
It's got a great chorus. It's super catchy. It

00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:22.650
might be a skip for you and it grew on you, but

00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:29.210
it's my favorite track. Next we move to Fever.

00:37:29.970 --> 00:37:33.889
um for me this is another highlight of the album

00:37:33.889 --> 00:37:38.050
like this is a song that i still add to like

00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:40.329
like i would say the majority of the playlist

00:37:40.329 --> 00:37:43.269
i make i add this because i'm just like doesn't

00:37:43.269 --> 00:37:45.789
matter if i'm driving three hours away or if

00:37:45.789 --> 00:37:49.570
i need a like a doing yard work playlist or whatever

00:37:49.570 --> 00:37:53.289
um i feel like it's just a really fun song and

00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:58.050
i think like it's um It's like them branching

00:37:58.050 --> 00:38:00.809
out, but I feel like it works a lot So it's like

00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:03.570
I feel like this is a very like dancey song and

00:38:03.570 --> 00:38:05.269
it's not like the lyrics are telling something

00:38:05.269 --> 00:38:08.429
this deep but like for whatever reason this song

00:38:08.429 --> 00:38:11.750
like I like I loved it when I heard it back then

00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:15.530
and Like I still like love this song So two things

00:38:15.530 --> 00:38:18.550
it is something deep. It's about catching the

00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:23.469
fire of the Holy Spirit Interesting. That's what

00:38:23.469 --> 00:38:25.690
it's about. At least that's what I think it's

00:38:25.690 --> 00:38:29.429
about. That's what I'm interpreting as. But my

00:38:29.429 --> 00:38:32.650
favorite part is, I think it's at the end of

00:38:32.650 --> 00:38:35.110
each chorus where he's like, Beep, there's got

00:38:35.110 --> 00:38:38.469
you sweating and you know I'm burning up. Whenever

00:38:38.469 --> 00:38:41.949
he drops his vocals in that, that's my favorite

00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:45.750
part of the song. Jordan, I hate to tell you,

00:38:45.849 --> 00:38:48.489
but that's the thing that made me want to pass

00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:52.469
this. No. Yes. It's that low vocal thing again.

00:38:52.570 --> 00:38:55.530
I love low vocals. I can't handle it. I don't

00:38:55.530 --> 00:39:00.070
like it. I'm sorry. How do you feel? Because

00:39:00.070 --> 00:39:02.969
I feel like the other band I know, this is like

00:39:02.969 --> 00:39:06.829
a detour, but that noise, it reminds me a lot

00:39:06.829 --> 00:39:09.449
of like 21 Pilots. Do you feel the same way when

00:39:09.449 --> 00:39:12.409
they do it as well? Yes, I like 21 pilots, but

00:39:12.409 --> 00:39:14.949
I don't like that. So spoiler, whenever we moved

00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:20.110
to those albums, just keep in mind. Yeah, it's

00:39:20.110 --> 00:39:21.929
OK. It's all right. There's there's things here.

00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:23.630
I broke your heart earlier. Now you're breaking

00:39:23.630 --> 00:39:26.469
mine. There's things here for all of us. Trap

00:39:26.469 --> 00:39:32.280
track six party foul. Yeah, this one I thought

00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.340
was really, really fun, like that the idea of

00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:39.679
like breaking a rule at a party. And so I thought

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.400
the lyrics were fun. I thought I thought it was

00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.260
a cool song. Yeah, this was I like this coming

00:39:45.260 --> 00:39:47.820
off of fever. I thought it was great. Yeah, I

00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:52.500
feel like it's just fun lyrically. I feel like

00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:56.019
it, it kind of helps, like break the stereotype

00:39:56.019 --> 00:39:58.920
of like, oh, Christians can't laugh. But like,

00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.260
these are guys that are christians and they're

00:40:01.260 --> 00:40:04.179
laughing at themselves like poking fun at oh

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:07.639
you stepped to my girl that's a part of Val i

00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:11.380
feel like it's just fun yeah it is i'll be honest

00:40:11.380 --> 00:40:14.179
like i felt like this was like my least favorite

00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:17.519
track but hearing you guys talk about it i feel

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.280
like it has like risen a little bit like thinking

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.599
like i feel like this is I could see like the

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:25.860
guys from the band being like, man, we just love

00:40:25.860 --> 00:40:28.980
like this song. So I feel like that raises it

00:40:28.980 --> 00:40:32.059
up. Like, it's not for me, but it's like, because

00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:33.900
I was about to say, like, I felt like it just

00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:37.940
didn't feel like it fit. But like, I think that's

00:40:37.940 --> 00:40:40.679
more of a me thing, because I feel like I didn't

00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.760
want it to fit on the album. But honestly, it

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.659
does. That's the album. Moving forward, it's

00:40:49.659 --> 00:40:55.280
a I guess D -I -E -4 -Y -O -U. You should have

00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.579
sang it. Yeah. So I'm assuming the song is about

00:40:59.579 --> 00:41:03.820
Jesus. It is. Yes. So it was nice to like find

00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:07.039
a song that I was like, oh, okay, this is a Christian

00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:13.300
song on this record. And this song to me like

00:41:13.300 --> 00:41:16.199
kind of perfectly encapsulated what I thought

00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.869
Family Force 5 was. Yeah. That it's kind of like,

00:41:21.650 --> 00:41:23.389
all right, we're going to do this whole like,

00:41:23.409 --> 00:41:27.309
loud, like fun thing. But like, it's about Jesus.

00:41:27.630 --> 00:41:30.070
Yeah. And so that was like, that was my thought

00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:32.969
is just kind of like almost like didactic, just

00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:38.409
like, whatever look at who Jesus is. And so I

00:41:38.409 --> 00:41:41.010
appreciated the faith part of it. But then I

00:41:41.010 --> 00:41:44.449
actually didn't like the package of it. Yeah,

00:41:44.449 --> 00:41:48.460
because I just it it it I don't know. It just

00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:50.699
made it feel like a little trite and light to

00:41:50.699 --> 00:41:55.699
me. See, I liked it because it is that whole

00:41:55.699 --> 00:41:58.800
like talking about Jesus and how Jesus is gonna

00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:03.139
die for you. And I, but I feel like lyrically,

00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:08.619
it's, it can be seen as like, oh, like boyfriend,

00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.019
girlfriend, I'd die for you. So then it draws

00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:15.880
in those people that are just like in the emo

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.219
punk scene and they listen to this song and they're

00:42:19.219 --> 00:42:21.119
like oh man this is catchy and then they actually

00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.280
look into the band and then they find out oh

00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.940
they're christians but then they find out who

00:42:25.940 --> 00:42:28.880
jesus is through listening to that so i feel

00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.980
like it's kind of it is a little bit on the nose

00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:36.400
but it is a ministry tool because people can

00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.199
find jesus through that who typically would not

00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.039
be reached by christians so I think like Joel

00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.860
said, it was the first time I heard a song on

00:42:46.860 --> 00:42:49.440
the album. I went, okay, yeah, they still are

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.900
singing about like Jesus. I remember the first

00:42:52.900 --> 00:42:56.440
time I listened to it thinking, oh, this song

00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.659
is most like a song I would have found on Business

00:43:00.659 --> 00:43:04.619
Up Front. So for me, like I loved it because

00:43:04.619 --> 00:43:07.639
it was a return to like, oh, this is what I wanted

00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.250
the album to be more of. And I was really afraid

00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:14.070
that this wasn't going to hold up, but I, I feel

00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:17.949
like I love it just as much. Um, cause I, I,

00:43:17.949 --> 00:43:21.130
I think lyrically, like there are like, like

00:43:21.130 --> 00:43:24.570
a lot of themes of like martyr, martyr them like

00:43:24.570 --> 00:43:27.969
dumb in there, um, of the song. So I felt like

00:43:27.969 --> 00:43:31.170
it was just like, I just really love, like, I

00:43:31.170 --> 00:43:33.309
think family for five is best whenever they are

00:43:33.309 --> 00:43:37.019
just. guitars like going and just screaming.

00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:40.699
So like, I think that whenever you say like,

00:43:40.780 --> 00:43:43.480
yeah, this is what I thought they were. I'm like,

00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.039
yes. It's with me. It's like, it's a great thing.

00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.059
Yeah, they scream a lot. They have guitar and

00:43:49.059 --> 00:43:51.380
they party. Throw in a little synth and you got

00:43:51.380 --> 00:43:55.099
Family Force V. Next, we move to share it with

00:43:55.099 --> 00:44:00.110
me. I really liked the song when I was younger,

00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:03.730
because the story behind it is that their bass

00:44:03.730 --> 00:44:09.269
player, Fatty, he was going to propose to this

00:44:09.269 --> 00:44:13.030
girl, and she broke up with him. And I just remember

00:44:13.030 --> 00:44:16.710
as a kid thinking, what? How could that happen?

00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:19.690
That's the saddest thing ever. I remember just

00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:22.750
thinking like, this song is so deep, because

00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:27.710
they deal with that. But I felt like now, Like

00:44:27.710 --> 00:44:30.210
it didn't hold up. So it's like a song I used

00:44:30.210 --> 00:44:32.849
to love but now I feel like it was like a little

00:44:32.849 --> 00:44:35.909
Maybe maybe just cuz I'm older and I'm like,

00:44:35.909 --> 00:44:38.949
oh, yeah, that's not like the saddest thing that

00:44:38.949 --> 00:44:44.690
can happen to you This was kind of It was a skip

00:44:44.690 --> 00:44:46.909
track then and it's kind of a skip track now.

00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:51.210
I feel like I I still don't love it. I feel like

00:44:51.210 --> 00:44:55.969
it's just kind of blah blah, it's not it's not

00:44:55.969 --> 00:45:01.030
like a go -to track for me. So not unexpected.

00:45:01.429 --> 00:45:06.710
I love this one. I think it was great. I love

00:45:06.710 --> 00:45:10.429
like the opening kind of groove of it. It's obviously

00:45:10.429 --> 00:45:13.309
very different feel for the record. It kind of

00:45:13.309 --> 00:45:15.530
reminded me of like a Weezer song. Like I felt

00:45:15.530 --> 00:45:18.030
like I was listening to like a Weezer song. And

00:45:18.030 --> 00:45:20.820
then I was kind of like... in the groove of that.

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.179
I love like the piano. I even liked how like

00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:26.719
the song was just like fades out like some used

00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.340
to just fade out. Yeah. And so yeah, for me,

00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.320
this this this was one of the highlights on on

00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.400
the record. But I think it just again speaks

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.619
to the idea that we're all probably like looking

00:45:39.619 --> 00:45:41.900
for little different things when it comes to

00:45:41.900 --> 00:45:44.900
music. But what's fun so far is that we've all

00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:47.019
found like things that we can really enjoy about

00:45:47.019 --> 00:45:51.460
this record. So I love that. Track number 10,

00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:57.840
Wake the Dead. Oh, wait, do we do? No, I messed

00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:02.840
up. Yeah. Track number nine. Sorry. Video game

00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.699
again. Yeah. And I like that. That's fun. But

00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:09.179
it moves into kind of like a almost like a pop

00:46:09.179 --> 00:46:11.679
pop kind of, you know, which I thought was a

00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:16.219
cool transition. So I don't have time to say,

00:46:16.420 --> 00:46:19.340
but I think the verses are are really cool. It's

00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:21.579
great melody. I like this one. It was simple.

00:46:21.739 --> 00:46:24.960
It was cool. What about you, Jordan? I liked

00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:33.119
it. Then I liked it now. I feel like I like that

00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:37.360
it is kind of like more of a pop punk. It wasn't

00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.940
like the typical like screaming, but it was more

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:46.980
like singing and like pop punky. And whenever

00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:50.619
I feel like my favorite part is whenever he says

00:46:50.619 --> 00:46:54.559
press repeat just the way that he says it i like

00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.840
that part i um i think that it's the out of like

00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.739
the new era like a family force five it's the

00:47:04.739 --> 00:47:09.570
song that i like the most out of it um There's

00:47:09.570 --> 00:47:14.150
also a really cool remix of this and it's done

00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:18.849
by Matthew Thiessen of Reliant K, but it's just

00:47:18.849 --> 00:47:22.010
a bunch of bells. So it's a bunch of like bells

00:47:22.010 --> 00:47:24.969
and it's I really like it and it's I feel like

00:47:24.969 --> 00:47:28.050
the remix like his remix of this is better like

00:47:28.050 --> 00:47:31.449
than the original because it's just completely

00:47:31.449 --> 00:47:34.329
different. So like if you're someone who didn't

00:47:34.329 --> 00:47:36.690
like this one, I really recommend going and listening

00:47:36.690 --> 00:47:39.769
to the that decent if you could find it because

00:47:39.769 --> 00:47:42.489
that's we didn't address it like at the beginning

00:47:42.489 --> 00:47:45.449
but also like i don't know what it is about like

00:47:45.449 --> 00:47:48.369
their catalog and like their record contracts

00:47:48.369 --> 00:47:51.530
but like you can't find this album like you can't

00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:54.269
buy it on apple you can't stream it on spotify

00:47:54.269 --> 00:47:58.889
um you've got to either like go buy a cd or go

00:47:58.889 --> 00:48:01.329
stream it on youtube which i feel like is just

00:48:01.329 --> 00:48:04.590
really weird in today's age whenever you have

00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:09.400
albums that like just aren't Do they even sell

00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.719
this CD anymore? in stores? I don't even know.

00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:14.480
You could go to eBay or a flea market. Yeah,

00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.039
you probably have to buy it used. Yeah, it'd

00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.300
be interesting to know. There was a situation

00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:23.380
with Tooth & Nell where they entered into a contract

00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:28.719
with EMI, I think in the early 2000s, and they

00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.760
originally were like, oh, this is going to create

00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:33.539
like a lot more opportunity for a record skimp

00:48:33.539 --> 00:48:36.000
to end up in places. But it was kind of like

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.820
a partnership, almost like there was like a merger.

00:48:39.699 --> 00:48:42.800
And, um, but when it happening is a tooth and

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:47.000
a loss, like sort of a lot of rights to the,

00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.219
to records during a certain time period. And

00:48:49.219 --> 00:48:52.239
then when they pulled back out of that relationship,

00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.960
EMI like held, held some of that stuff and tooth

00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:57.820
and nail didn't really have the rights to it

00:48:57.820 --> 00:49:00.280
anymore. So I don't know how that maybe impacted

00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.840
this, but it could be one of those elephants

00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.760
that just kind of fell prey to that. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:10.500
All right, wake the dead track number 10 I don't

00:49:10.500 --> 00:49:13.260
have a lot to say about it, but I feel like this

00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:17.840
one could end up on my Halloween playlist I remember

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.530
having a t -shirt from this and it was a It's

00:49:21.530 --> 00:49:24.269
purple had to wake the dead and it was like a

00:49:24.269 --> 00:49:26.489
zombie like giving you I think like it was like

00:49:26.489 --> 00:49:29.010
the thumbs up or whatever And I remember just

00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:31.590
thinking this is the coolest shirt that anyone

00:49:31.590 --> 00:49:35.730
has ever owned in the history of the world I

00:49:35.730 --> 00:49:41.349
feel like wasn't this song on a commercial? For

00:49:41.349 --> 00:49:45.170
like a toy. I think so. I think I could be mixing

00:49:45.170 --> 00:49:47.670
it up with the forever the sickest kids song

00:49:47.670 --> 00:49:51.289
Are you thinking of um? Because they did do a

00:49:51.289 --> 00:49:53.570
song for Skella animals, but it was keep the

00:49:53.570 --> 00:49:56.920
party alive that one, but I feel like Maybe it's

00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:58.380
that one that I'm thinking of. And then it's

00:49:58.380 --> 00:50:00.400
a Forever the Sickest Kids song that I'm thinking

00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.659
of was on another commercial for another thing.

00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:05.360
This is probably won't surprise you Joel. But

00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.260
yes, that was a partnership they had where it

00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:10.280
was like the undead beanie babies called Skella

00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.579
animals. And family force five was like wrote

00:50:13.579 --> 00:50:17.539
like the official song and all for it. You're

00:50:17.539 --> 00:50:24.460
probably like, yep, that surprised me that. But

00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:27.139
I like this song, Wake the Dead. It's probably,

00:50:27.860 --> 00:50:29.980
I don't know, I feel like I can't say that it

00:50:29.980 --> 00:50:31.860
is my favorite, but it's one of my favorites

00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:37.079
off of this album. I feel like the idea behind

00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:41.980
it is that there's all of these apathetic Christians

00:50:41.980 --> 00:50:46.380
and... you're like trying to get this spark of

00:50:46.380 --> 00:50:49.679
like revival and you're trying to wake the dead

00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:55.440
and it doesn't matter what they say or what they

00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.719
think because they're dead. Let's wake them up.

00:50:58.889 --> 00:51:01.849
we gotta revive, we gotta keep pushing forward.

00:51:02.289 --> 00:51:05.269
So I feel like it's kind of an empowering song

00:51:05.269 --> 00:51:08.710
for especially young Christians who maybe don't

00:51:08.710 --> 00:51:12.670
fit the part of the stereotypical Christian because

00:51:12.670 --> 00:51:15.710
they come into the church with their band tees

00:51:15.710 --> 00:51:18.429
and their skinny jeans and their converses and

00:51:18.429 --> 00:51:21.989
their purple hair that's spiked up and their

00:51:21.989 --> 00:51:25.170
dark eye shadow. Maybe that's what I looked like

00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:28.469
in high school. I was wondering how personal

00:51:28.300 --> 00:51:30.219
that moment was getting for you. I got a lot

00:51:30.219 --> 00:51:35.179
of looks. I felt like this song, when you know

00:51:35.179 --> 00:51:38.280
the context of Family Force 5, it does add a

00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.320
lot to it. Because I think on its own, I think

00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.619
this song might be kind of like, I like it, it's

00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:49.420
all right. But that was one of their biggest

00:51:49.420 --> 00:51:52.139
things at concerts, is they would be like, hey,

00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.119
we're here and we're going to party for Jesus.

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.579
And they're like, and if you think that's stupid,

00:51:56.659 --> 00:51:58.900
then you can leave. They're like, get out of

00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.699
here. We don't want you at our show. They'd be

00:52:01.699 --> 00:52:03.500
like a winter jam. They'd be like, if you don't

00:52:03.500 --> 00:52:06.699
think that you should be excited for Jesus, then

00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:08.760
go get something to eat. We don't want you in

00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.840
this room. And so it was just very much like

00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:16.159
in your face. And I think that like Jordan said,

00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:18.119
when you're growing up and you feel like you're

00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:23.019
not fitting that vision, this kind of becomes

00:52:23.019 --> 00:52:27.659
an anthem for like, oh, like. Can be different

00:52:27.659 --> 00:52:29.800
and still like follow Jesus like I don't have

00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.719
to be like here's the line you fall into Yeah,

00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.179
so I feel like out of all their tracks This is

00:52:36.179 --> 00:52:38.440
one that I feel like is very personal for a lot

00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.539
of them because it is kind of their anthem Moving

00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:49.659
on to the finale radiator I think that like this

00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:53.780
song is incredible like this song it made me

00:52:53.780 --> 00:52:58.590
think I was like you know, can one song lift

00:52:58.590 --> 00:53:01.469
up the rating of an entire like album? Like that's

00:53:01.469 --> 00:53:04.949
how I felt like it's just like the snaps, the

00:53:04.949 --> 00:53:09.030
guitar, like everything about it is just like

00:53:09.030 --> 00:53:12.010
incredible. And like I said, like I add like

00:53:12.010 --> 00:53:15.190
fever to like, like to be on playlist, but like

00:53:15.190 --> 00:53:18.829
radiator is like, I, this song can't come on

00:53:18.829 --> 00:53:21.489
and I not sing to it. Like it's just immediate.

00:53:21.489 --> 00:53:23.710
It's like, Oh, yep, we're, we're singing. We're

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:27.750
in concert mode and I think it's like, it's on

00:53:27.750 --> 00:53:32.190
the Mount Rushmore of Family Force V songs. I'm

00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:34.650
laughing because Joel keeps looking at me. I

00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:36.849
have a feeling I know what his thoughts on this

00:53:36.849 --> 00:53:40.690
song are going to be because I love this song.

00:53:41.630 --> 00:53:43.429
I was wondering what your thoughts are because

00:53:43.429 --> 00:53:45.389
I felt like you were looking at him like, we

00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:48.969
disagree on this, but apparently not. No, I laugh

00:53:48.969 --> 00:53:52.210
because Brandon, whenever we talk, whenever we

00:53:52.210 --> 00:53:54.150
have been talking about this album, that's the

00:53:54.150 --> 00:53:56.269
song that he keeps coming back to. And I'm like,

00:53:56.269 --> 00:53:58.750
Brandon, there's other songs on this. Have you

00:53:58.750 --> 00:54:00.610
listened to the other songs? He's just like,

00:54:00.809 --> 00:54:05.190
man, right? radiator so good. I feel like I love

00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:07.510
radiator. I feel like my favorite part is the

00:54:07.510 --> 00:54:12.349
snaps in it and then I can vividly see like the

00:54:12.349 --> 00:54:14.809
music video for this and he's got one of those

00:54:14.809 --> 00:54:18.510
like old school microphones and it's green and

00:54:18.510 --> 00:54:22.329
like he's like talking in it's like a fisheye

00:54:22.329 --> 00:54:25.710
camera angle and he's like coming into and he's

00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:29.969
like Radiator just like you like he's like twisting

00:54:29.969 --> 00:54:32.769
and like I thought it was just such a cool music

00:54:32.769 --> 00:54:34.809
video So I feel like the music video has sold

00:54:34.809 --> 00:54:38.070
me on this song But yeah, I feel like it's such

00:54:38.070 --> 00:54:43.469
a cool concept again It's a Jesus song because

00:54:43.469 --> 00:54:48.590
it's being a radiator just like you so that you

00:54:48.590 --> 00:54:53.590
are sharing like Jesus you're being Jesus and

00:54:54.269 --> 00:54:59.809
Yeah, again, it's bringing in people who stereotypically

00:54:59.809 --> 00:55:03.650
are kind of rushed to the side in your typical

00:55:03.650 --> 00:55:07.650
church circle and you're bringing those people

00:55:07.650 --> 00:55:10.190
in and saying, hey, it is cool to love Jesus

00:55:10.190 --> 00:55:14.309
and it's cool to have purple hair and it's cool

00:55:14.309 --> 00:55:17.849
to dress kind of crazy, but that's okay because

00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:20.369
you love Jesus and I love Jesus. Let's sing about

00:55:20.369 --> 00:55:24.659
it and dance about it. Yeah. yeah i got a real

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:29.699
um like black keys vibe from this one or have

00:55:29.699 --> 00:55:34.480
you guys heard the band 68 um no i maybe a little

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.219
bit josh from the chariot it's like his new band

00:55:37.219 --> 00:55:40.440
um it's just like literally like him and a drummer

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:44.059
uh him on guitar but similar kind of thing just

00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:47.119
like big like loud guitars but like almost like

00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.469
a little bluesy kind of influence to it um and

00:55:51.469 --> 00:55:53.550
so yeah i mean i thought i thought this one was

00:55:53.550 --> 00:55:59.730
cool it wasn't my favorite track um but um but

00:55:59.730 --> 00:56:03.969
yeah i'm good with it it's great so so brandon

00:56:03.969 --> 00:56:06.130
you would say for you that this this is your

00:56:06.130 --> 00:56:08.389
favorite track on the record yeah i would say

00:56:08.389 --> 00:56:12.889
i think that this like i really like get your

00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:16.150
back off the wall but i think radiator is just

00:56:16.150 --> 00:56:18.820
yeah i think i think it's just there's nothing

00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:22.139
about it like I can like nitpick. It's just there's

00:56:22.139 --> 00:56:25.940
like a force field around like how negative and

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:29.239
I think I think for everyone, they just have

00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.739
songs like that and you know, I we keep going

00:56:33.739 --> 00:56:37.739
back to I think what's really cool is that you

00:56:37.739 --> 00:56:41.659
have two people who this meant so much to them

00:56:41.659 --> 00:56:44.079
when they were growing up and it's like, yeah,

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.659
like I can't Listen that song and not think of

00:56:46.659 --> 00:56:49.000
the music video and then you have someone like

00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.199
yourself. It's like I've never seen this music

00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.780
video I didn't hear them say like play this live

00:56:53.780 --> 00:56:57.260
and I think that's what's cool Is that you know,

00:56:57.300 --> 00:57:00.480
I think part of it's like is it amazing? Am I

00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.760
getting caught in nostalgia? I don't know. I

00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:05.619
just know I love the song Yeah, say it would

00:57:05.619 --> 00:57:07.360
definitely be my favorite album our favorite

00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.860
song off the album. I love that. I love that

00:57:10.860 --> 00:57:13.579
Jordan, what's your favorite track? Um, I don't

00:57:13.579 --> 00:57:18.920
have one. I feel like there's, I feel like there's

00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:25.579
songs that I, I love kind of equally. I feel

00:57:25.579 --> 00:57:28.699
like dance or die, get your back off the wall,

00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:34.059
rip it up. Uh, fever. I feel like die for you.

00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.940
Uh, the first time and wake the dead radiator.

00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.079
I feel like all of those are like standouts.

00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.380
I feel like. how in the world I do like it but

00:57:43.380 --> 00:57:46.820
I don't love it and then uh share it with me

00:57:46.820 --> 00:57:52.739
I it's okay I don't I I don't love it I really

00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:55.960
don't like it a whole lot what if this I don't

00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.340
know if this helps you but what if right now

00:57:58.340 --> 00:58:01.599
family force five was outside that door on stage

00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.550
and they were like We've got four minutes to

00:58:04.550 --> 00:58:06.989
play a song for you off this album, but only

00:58:06.989 --> 00:58:12.010
four minutes. Dance or die. Okay. Gun to my head.

00:58:12.150 --> 00:58:14.690
I have to choose. So here's the fun thing. I

00:58:14.690 --> 00:58:17.289
mean, the fun thing there is that I think that's

00:58:17.289 --> 00:58:20.730
a track we all enjoyed and liked a lot. And I

00:58:20.730 --> 00:58:23.650
love that. And it's a great song. And it's right

00:58:23.650 --> 00:58:27.530
up there with me for my favorite one, which my

00:58:27.530 --> 00:58:30.699
favorite one is. how in the world. But Dancer

00:58:30.699 --> 00:58:33.500
Die was like right there. And so it's fun that

00:58:33.500 --> 00:58:35.860
that that's a track that we kind of all have

00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:38.059
a mutual love for. So I really appreciate you

00:58:38.059 --> 00:58:40.360
guys introducing me to this. It's fun to dig

00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.380
into stuff. that I haven't really spent time

00:58:43.380 --> 00:58:45.599
with and find things that I love. I'm honestly

00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.980
going to listen to how in the world a lot. And

00:58:49.980 --> 00:58:52.260
they show the girls dance or die. Absolutely.

00:58:52.420 --> 00:58:55.579
I will put dance or die on. I have I have a playlist

00:58:55.579 --> 00:58:57.840
called Dance Like Nobody's Watching and it will

00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.559
end up there, which is great. I'll become part

00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.000
of the rhythm of our family. So overall rating

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.880
for the record at a five, one out of five. I

00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:11.019
can start. this is one of those records that

00:59:11.019 --> 00:59:15.280
I feel like when I liked it I loved it and so

00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:18.820
like half the record I would give like five stars

00:59:18.820 --> 00:59:21.920
but then the other half I feel like just fell

00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.840
like flat so I feel like for me it's like a 2

00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.659
.5 like out of five two point five Brandon you

00:59:30.659 --> 00:59:33.570
kiss your mother with that mouth so Jordan I

00:59:33.570 --> 00:59:39.570
would give this record a 3 .27. Oh my gosh. Which

00:59:39.570 --> 00:59:42.349
is higher than your husband. That's true. Gave

00:59:42.349 --> 00:59:47.150
this album. But still kind of low. I think I'm

00:59:47.150 --> 00:59:49.329
still just better because I want to be like,

00:59:49.349 --> 00:59:53.090
guys, just give me another album of what I loved.

00:59:53.409 --> 00:59:55.849
I don't want to try. I want to go to my favorite

00:59:55.849 --> 00:59:58.309
restaurant. Don't make me go to a new restaurant.

00:59:58.570 --> 01:00:00.909
Just let me have my chicken tenders and fries.

01:00:01.250 --> 01:00:05.409
Don't. don't throw sauce on with it. You just

01:00:05.409 --> 01:00:08.630
have to understand that a four is like a great

01:00:08.630 --> 01:00:12.210
record and a five is like all -timer. I was going

01:00:12.210 --> 01:00:15.150
to put it in like a 4 .5. Which you should. I

01:00:15.150 --> 01:00:20.090
should because it's my pick. But I feel like

01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:24.650
it only loses a little bit because of uh share

01:00:24.650 --> 01:00:28.869
it with me and how in the world. I need to bring

01:00:28.869 --> 01:00:31.809
that one to you. But yeah, I feel like the two

01:00:31.809 --> 01:00:34.829
slow tracks because I don't like slow music.

01:00:35.130 --> 01:00:38.510
I like fast, pumpy, get -me -up -and -moving

01:00:38.510 --> 01:00:43.610
music. Slow music just makes me want to cry,

01:00:44.750 --> 01:00:47.190
but not in a good way, not like a good cry, like

01:00:47.190 --> 01:00:50.349
a sad cry. I feel like if you average all that

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out, you get like a 3 .6, 3 .7. And I feel like

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that's a fair assessment of it. Should I get

01:00:58.619 --> 01:01:02.500
out the calculator? I'm curious. Your math is

01:01:02.500 --> 01:01:07.619
good. But yeah, I think that's what's good and

01:01:07.619 --> 01:01:10.519
bad about a band like Family Force V is that

01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:14.079
I think, I don't want to spoil, but I feel like

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there's records of theirs that if we listen to

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.139
it, I'm like, man, that's a... That's a 4 .5

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all day long. And I think there's other records

01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.579
of theirs that like might be like lower than

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this. But I think it's commendable when you have

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a, cause like I said, for me, I'm like, just

01:01:30.099 --> 01:01:34.119
give me what I want. But I also appreciate that,

01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.900
like, I feel like there's a lot on this album

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that it was them getting out of their comfort

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zone because you could stick to whatever. And

01:01:42.900 --> 01:01:45.340
like you could have 12 tracks. It's just screaming

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and partying. So I feel like it is cool when

01:01:47.820 --> 01:01:50.059
you're like, no, let's slow down and try to our

01:01:50.059 --> 01:01:52.179
hands at like a slower song. So I feel like,

01:01:52.260 --> 01:01:55.340
I feel like the 2 .5, like I said, it can be

01:01:55.340 --> 01:01:58.420
very like deceiving because it's like, I like

01:01:58.420 --> 01:02:00.679
the album, but I think that's where I stand is

01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.840
that half of it's. I'm like, Oh, this is incredible.

01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.760
And the other half, I'm like, Oh man, I'm just

01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:09.340
not, I'm not a dancey person. Like it just misses.

01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:12.440
Yeah. Well, this was a fun conversation through

01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.579
this record. So Jordan, again, thank you so much

01:02:14.579 --> 01:02:17.480
for bringing it to us and letting us dig into

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it today. Um, but now it is time for us to go

01:02:20.820 --> 01:02:35.880
to the lyric of the week. So the lyric of the

01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.710
week I was looking through some of my favorites

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and I asked Jordan what her favorite was and

01:02:41.030 --> 01:02:43.949
the first thing that she mentioned was um in

01:02:43.949 --> 01:02:46.909
like Wake the Dead like I think it's like halfway

01:02:46.909 --> 01:02:48.570
through it so it's like the second or third time

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they've gone through the chorus. Wake up the

01:02:50.110 --> 01:02:54.590
dead now. Shakey shake up the dead now. That

01:02:54.590 --> 01:02:57.909
shaky shake that's what I love so that was that

01:02:57.909 --> 01:03:00.449
was Jordan's highlight of the album lyric wise

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is just yeah the shaky shake. You know you gotta

01:03:03.610 --> 01:03:07.519
shakey shake them up. Any kind of like deep philosophical

01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.039
meaning that like follows with that for you.

01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.000
I like the way that the word shaky sounds. There

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you go. Well, that's it for our episode. Before

01:03:17.539 --> 01:03:22.460
we take off, you can find us at at Hey, are you

01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:26.110
pod on X? Brandon and I socials are on there

01:03:26.110 --> 01:03:28.449
as well Jordan. Where can we find you on the

01:03:28.449 --> 01:03:31.929
interwebs? I joked that you can't find me I'm

01:03:31.929 --> 01:03:35.210
in the witness protection program, but no I'm

01:03:35.210 --> 01:03:40.889
on Instagram Jojo the wizard 257 I have an ex

01:03:40.889 --> 01:03:43.909
but I don't get on it because I used it back

01:03:43.909 --> 01:03:47.110
when it was Twitter and I don't I don't even

01:03:47.110 --> 01:03:49.650
know if I know my login for it to be honest,

01:03:49.730 --> 01:03:52.570
but my my handle Brandon loves my handle. It's

01:03:52.570 --> 01:03:57.329
Jay money And then I'm on Facebook too. I'm on

01:03:57.329 --> 01:04:01.110
TikTok, but I don't post on TikTok. So if you

01:04:01.110 --> 01:04:03.730
wanted to follow me, you can, but I don't really

01:04:03.730 --> 01:04:08.230
post on there. But Instagram, JojoTheWizard257.

01:04:08.630 --> 01:04:10.909
Instagram's the place to go. She's a good follow

01:04:10.909 --> 01:04:14.110
there. So, all right. We are thankful that we

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were able to wrap around this today. Come back

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and we'll look forward to seeing you next week.