WEBVTT 00:00:30.529 --> 00:00:33.609 Well, hello everybody and welcome to the debut 00:00:33.609 --> 00:00:37.250 episode of hey, are you listening? This is a 00:00:37.250 --> 00:00:40.530 podcast that explores the past present and future 00:00:40.530 --> 00:00:43.229 of Christian music My name is Joel and I'm here 00:00:43.229 --> 00:00:45.990 with my good friend Brandon and we connected 00:00:45.990 --> 00:00:48.750 over a mutual love of some particular artists 00:00:48.750 --> 00:00:51.450 But also have a pretty different taste when it 00:00:51.450 --> 00:00:53.030 comes to things and so we thought it might be 00:00:53.030 --> 00:00:56.119 fun to get together and talk from time to time 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.520 and experience maybe some new artists that we 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.920 both love while inviting some friends along for 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:03.780 the ride. So I'm pumped for the journey. How 00:01:03.780 --> 00:01:05.640 are you doing, Brandon? I'm doing awesome. Yeah, 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.060 I'm super excited. I think of this as almost 00:01:09.060 --> 00:01:10.719 like when you walk into a record store to buy 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:14.040 your favorite artist, and you realize there's 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:16.579 thousands of different CDs in there. And I feel 00:01:16.579 --> 00:01:20.120 like this podcast is kind of how this is. There's 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.299 going to be stuff that I love that you've never 00:01:22.299 --> 00:01:24.879 heard, vice versa. stuff that neither one of 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.079 us has never heard. So I'm really excited to 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.019 get to explore it. I feel like we're going to 00:01:29.019 --> 00:01:31.840 probably run into that more than we think, just 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.859 inviting other people along. Since this is the 00:01:34.859 --> 00:01:36.780 first episode today, we're just going to kind 00:01:36.780 --> 00:01:40.700 of go, just the two of us in this. And we decided 00:01:40.700 --> 00:01:43.920 to connect over an artist that we both have kind 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.819 of a mutual love for, and that is Starflyer59. 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.920 In fact, our podcast is named after a Star Flyer 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.260 59 song. So they were kind of a connection point 00:01:56.260 --> 00:01:59.159 for us. Do you remember how that happened and 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.200 how we connected over Star Flyer 59? I remember, 00:02:02.819 --> 00:02:06.480 I think I made a post on Facebook about Don Quixote's 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.879 horse and you commented it and you were like, 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.479 yeah, I love those guys. And we were talking 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.479 one day, I think it was in the parking lot church. 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.599 And I made some comment about like, oh man, you 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.280 know that there's a connection with someone like 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.719 some obscure band like that. And I think I used 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.479 Star Flyer 59 as an example. And you were like, 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.439 I know those guys. And then I'm like, is Star 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.960 Flyer 59 really that obscure? Because if you 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.400 look at their monthly listens on Spotify, I'm 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.300 pretty sure it's like in the millions. I don't 00:02:35.300 --> 00:02:38.719 even know. But yeah, I think there's a lot of 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.180 love for that band out there. But today we're 00:02:42.180 --> 00:02:46.960 kind of connecting on an album that, for me at 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.020 least, isn't one that I've spent a lot of time 00:02:49.020 --> 00:02:52.300 with. And so I guess a little history there. 00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:55.939 Tell us about your journey with Star Flyer 59 00:02:55.939 --> 00:02:58.360 and where you kind of entered into their world. 00:02:58.900 --> 00:03:01.639 Yeah, so we've taught before that it's weird. 00:03:02.340 --> 00:03:05.960 I got introduced with My Island. So I feel like 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:10.120 2006 Star Flyer 59 on has been the one that I've 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.219 listened to a ton. So really stuff before My 00:03:13.219 --> 00:03:17.020 Island, I know very little about the band. And 00:03:17.020 --> 00:03:18.520 I feel like for a lot of people, they're like, 00:03:18.539 --> 00:03:22.219 that's the golden age of Star Flyer 59 is, you 00:03:22.219 --> 00:03:26.800 know, the earlier stuff, the stuff. And so yeah, 00:03:26.979 --> 00:03:30.560 with this album in particular, I never listened 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.360 to it. I just feel like it's cool when you go 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:37.340 back and I love making playlists on my own where 00:03:37.340 --> 00:03:39.520 it's just looking back at songs from like 5, 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:42.819 10, 15, 20 years ago. So with this one being 00:03:42.819 --> 00:03:44.960 the 20th anniversary, I thought, man, it's cool 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.900 to open up the catalog and jump into it. I love 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:52.939 that. And I love that we both came across them 00:03:52.939 --> 00:03:56.080 in completely different eras and different ways. 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:58.319 I remember, I think the first time I ever heard 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:03.509 a Starfire 59 song. Was probably like a songs 00:04:03.509 --> 00:04:05.969 from the penalty box or some tooth and L sampler 00:04:05.969 --> 00:04:10.569 but specifically what captured me is I Got like 00:04:10.569 --> 00:04:15.569 a tooth and nail video sampler and it had It 00:04:15.569 --> 00:04:18.990 had a video for I think housewife love song. 00:04:18.990 --> 00:04:22.199 Yeah, whatever and I was like what? Is going 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:26.980 on this is so interesting to me and then they 00:04:26.980 --> 00:04:30.060 also were on a Steve Taylor tribute record called 00:04:30.060 --> 00:04:32.899 I predict a clone. where I think they covered 00:04:32.899 --> 00:04:34.899 just a bunch of different artists covered a bunch 00:04:34.899 --> 00:04:38.339 of Steve Taylor songs and Star Flyer covered 00:04:38.339 --> 00:04:42.480 his song Sin for a Season and still one of my 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.560 favorite like covers really cool and just super 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.019 heavy. And I was like, this is really awesome. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.980 But I don't think I actually bought a Star Flyer 00:04:52.980 --> 00:04:56.199 record until Fashion Focus came out, which is 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.220 their fourth. I think their fourth record. And 00:05:00.220 --> 00:05:03.120 so then I went real deep and real hard for a 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.920 little while. And then I fell out before you 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.660 got into it, before my island came around. And 00:05:09.660 --> 00:05:14.120 then later on with, I think it was, I am a CEO, 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:19.540 came back in and I've been... invested a lot 00:05:19.540 --> 00:05:21.860 in the record since then. And so I kind of have 00:05:21.860 --> 00:05:26.160 like a missing era for me, which is where the 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.920 record we're going to talk about today falls 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:29.720 in at. And it seems like it's maybe a little 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.290 bit of a missing era for you too. So today we're 00:05:34.290 --> 00:05:36.930 our episode is entitled. Hey, are you listening 00:05:36.930 --> 00:05:41.629 to talking voice versus singing voice? By Starflower 00:05:41.629 --> 00:05:44.769 59 so why are we talking about this record today? 00:05:44.829 --> 00:05:47.129 If it's not one that either one of us has like 00:05:47.129 --> 00:05:51.069 a ton of connection with yeah, I felt like um 00:05:51.069 --> 00:05:53.790 The easiest way to jump into it was like I said 00:05:53.790 --> 00:05:56.889 going back to like the the anniversaries of stuff 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.819 and so for me it was all right well this one 00:05:59.819 --> 00:06:03.000 falls under that it's 20 years old so let's just 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.259 jump into this one so really it's just i guess 00:06:05.259 --> 00:06:07.519 rolling the dice and saying all right this one 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.399 that's what we'll do yep yep so here we are the 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.860 20th anniversary of talking voice versus singing 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:16.459 voice and so we're going to get into that eventually 00:06:16.459 --> 00:06:19.879 but before we do that we want to talk about what's 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:25.899 in the news So let's get to it. What's been going 00:06:25.899 --> 00:06:28.839 on in the world of Christian music lately. It's 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:32.879 been kind of an interesting year in the world 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.579 of Christian music. We've had like CCM magazine 00:06:36.579 --> 00:06:40.100 reappear all of a sudden. And so we're finding 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:44.319 these like avenues to explore and. promote what's 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.439 happening in the world of Christian music. And 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.600 oddly enough for somebody like me who watched 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.540 The Devil Words when I was in junior high and 00:06:53.540 --> 00:06:57.560 high school, The Devil Words are still around. 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.360 and so and actually the nominees for the 2025 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.819 devil words just came out and so i wanted to 00:07:04.819 --> 00:07:08.980 see for you if you could guess make a guess today 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:14.139 in 2025 who would be the nominees for artist 00:07:14.139 --> 00:07:17.579 of the year at the devil words um so what do 00:07:17.579 --> 00:07:20.500 you think who would you who would you pin Man 00:07:20.500 --> 00:07:23.120 if you would have asked me this a year ago I 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.379 would have been completely lost because this 00:07:25.379 --> 00:07:27.800 is where like only listening to like indie music 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:31.060 hurts you You're like who are the kids listening 00:07:31.060 --> 00:07:35.399 to these days? But being being back in our grade 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:37.319 school ministry at church, I feel like it's helped 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.540 me Connect a little bit more with what's popular. 00:07:40.540 --> 00:07:44.639 So if I had to take a wild guess I would say 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:49.540 Phil Phil Wickham up there Forrest Frank's got 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:52.220 to be on that list. We play him non -stop back 00:07:52.220 --> 00:07:55.180 there. So you're two for two so far. Doing great. 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.800 Lauren Daigle? Yep, three for three. You gotta 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:04.660 have Toby Mack on there. Sorry, there's no Toby 00:08:04.660 --> 00:08:09.439 Mack. I'm officially out of touch now. You're 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:12.500 doing well. Any other guesses? Josiah Queen? 00:08:12.740 --> 00:08:17.430 Yep, yep. Okay. Four for five. Okay, yeah, I 00:08:17.430 --> 00:08:19.589 think that's that's where my looks gonna run 00:08:19.589 --> 00:08:22.389 out on it Well, you're missing one of the biggest 00:08:22.389 --> 00:08:26.430 and in fact, he's a Charleston. Oh Brandon Lake 00:08:26.430 --> 00:08:29.529 Brandon Lake. Yes your namesake the guy you're 00:08:29.529 --> 00:08:33.529 in Brandon Lake is on the list and then also 00:08:33.529 --> 00:08:37.350 we got CC whinans, which I wonder how many double 00:08:37.350 --> 00:08:40.350 words CC whinans Yeah nominated for her career 00:08:40.350 --> 00:08:43.470 Pretty cool. So yeah, that's that's interesting 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:46.559 I'll tell you one thing for me, and I love to 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.220 hear your thoughts on this, that I think is good. 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.940 I think if we were making this list five years 00:08:52.940 --> 00:08:55.860 ago, it probably would have all been worship 00:08:55.860 --> 00:08:59.519 artists. But I'm beginning to see, and they may 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.779 not be like my thing necessarily, but I'm beginning 00:09:02.779 --> 00:09:06.500 to see that there are like Christian artists, 00:09:06.659 --> 00:09:09.940 like Christian music, there's a re -emergement 00:09:09.940 --> 00:09:12.500 of it that's happening. Yeah, I don't know, what 00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:16.100 do you think about that? Yeah, I think even in 00:09:16.100 --> 00:09:18.700 the world of worship, I remember growing up and 00:09:18.700 --> 00:09:24.620 not wanting to touch worship at all. And in the 00:09:24.620 --> 00:09:27.279 past couple of years, there's been a change of, 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.419 oh, because it used to just be, man, this stuff's 00:09:29.419 --> 00:09:32.100 so shallow. Like, I'm a really big lyric person. 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:35.500 And I feel like now there's a lot of stuff that 00:09:35.500 --> 00:09:39.120 people will classify as worship. But to me, I'm 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.000 like, ah, this is it. more better than like what 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.659 I assume worship is. And so yeah, I feel like 00:09:46.659 --> 00:09:49.500 it's nice just seeing that there is a depth and 00:09:49.500 --> 00:09:51.899 it's songs you would share with someone versus 00:09:51.899 --> 00:09:54.000 like, oh, don't open that door. Don't go listen 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.799 to that. So yeah, I feel like it is cool seeing 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.480 that, like I say, even just someone like a force 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:01.179 rank, but there's people that might think like, 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.500 oh, that's kind of like goofy or whatever. But 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:05.639 it's cool having someone that you can tell that 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:08.419 he's putting effort into it. It's not just how 00:10:08.419 --> 00:10:11.009 can we Pump out as many songs as possible or 00:10:11.009 --> 00:10:13.330 whatever. It's let's put some thought and effort 00:10:13.330 --> 00:10:15.769 into this. I feel like it's refreshing. Yeah, 00:10:15.769 --> 00:10:18.309 I think that was an intentional thing for him. 00:10:18.309 --> 00:10:20.990 Um, I remember when I first started seeing Forrest 00:10:20.990 --> 00:10:24.090 Frank put like popping up on social media, um, 00:10:24.330 --> 00:10:26.330 that a lot of his like thoughts and ideas were 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:29.509 like, how do we re like just re -engage with 00:10:29.509 --> 00:10:32.009 this idea of Christian music, which I think is 00:10:32.009 --> 00:10:35.169 a cool thing. And so I'm kind of, I, I, I'll 00:10:35.169 --> 00:10:38.139 be honest with you for the longest time. I felt 00:10:38.139 --> 00:10:39.980 like in my college years, which has been a while 00:10:39.980 --> 00:10:44.460 at this point, but I hated, I got so like over 00:10:44.460 --> 00:10:46.240 the whole Christian music thing and I'm like, 00:10:46.379 --> 00:10:49.480 music can't be Christian, only people can. But 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.399 like I've missed that when it disappeared for 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.279 so long and all we were left with is worship 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.159 music. And worship music I think is valuable 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.940 and has its place. But there's like a whole world 00:10:59.940 --> 00:11:04.340 that I grew up in that's like gone, has been 00:11:04.340 --> 00:11:07.240 gone for so long. And so I'm excited to see it 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.100 begin to find its place again. All right, next 00:11:11.100 --> 00:11:13.500 news item. So kind of jumping more into the world 00:11:13.500 --> 00:11:16.059 that. I'm more familiar with and I've spent more 00:11:16.059 --> 00:11:20.500 time in. My buddy Andrew went to a show last 00:11:20.500 --> 00:11:23.600 Friday night in Jacksonville, Florida at the 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:25.539 Murray Hill Theater. Have you heard of this place? 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.320 So it's like, I don't know how long it's been 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:33.460 around, but I know that I was in a band in college 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:36.980 and we played at Murray Hill Theater once. Really 00:11:36.980 --> 00:11:40.259 cool venue. And it's like, basically a Christian 00:11:40.259 --> 00:11:44.539 rock venue. And somehow it has survived over 00:11:44.539 --> 00:11:47.399 the last like 30 years and it's still like a 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:51.139 thing. It's still there. And so the other night, 00:11:51.340 --> 00:11:54.840 I guess last weekend, my friend Andrew went on 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.740 Friday night. They had like a co -headlining 00:11:57.740 --> 00:12:00.659 show and it was Goaty Hook and Five Iron Frenzy. 00:12:01.230 --> 00:12:06.370 Um, and then Saturday night, um, was bleach that 00:12:06.370 --> 00:12:09.529 was playing. And I remember like, I saw a picture 00:12:09.529 --> 00:12:11.929 of the marquee and I was like, go to, like 500 00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:13.889 and frenzy bleach. And I'm like, is this from 00:12:13.889 --> 00:12:18.889 like 1998? What is going on right now? Um, but 00:12:18.889 --> 00:12:22.809 I just think that's so cool. Um, to see that 00:12:22.809 --> 00:12:25.490 happen again and see that these things are happening. 00:12:26.049 --> 00:12:29.019 And, um, um, we kind of had the chance to get 00:12:29.019 --> 00:12:30.980 to know a couple of the guys from Bleach a little 00:12:30.980 --> 00:12:33.820 bit who spent some time with us at our church. 00:12:34.620 --> 00:12:37.679 And really cool guys. I'm excited for them. They're 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.019 getting ready for Furnace Fest that's coming 00:12:40.019 --> 00:12:43.799 up this year and playing back there. But I just 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:45.899 thought it's so cool to see that going. And I 00:12:45.899 --> 00:12:49.519 can't imagine how a venue like that still exists. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.340 But I think it's another one of those exciting 00:12:52.340 --> 00:12:54.940 signs for maybe where things are going with Christian 00:12:54.940 --> 00:13:00.000 music. So all right. Well, let's talk a little 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.779 bit before we get into Before we get into where 00:13:03.779 --> 00:13:05.879 we're going with star flyer Let's talk a little 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.980 bit about maybe what have we've been listening 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:11.539 to lately that falls like into this world of 00:13:11.539 --> 00:13:13.500 Christian music So for you, what what have you 00:13:13.500 --> 00:13:15.580 been spending time listening and there's this 00:13:15.580 --> 00:13:20.019 it's an awesome band called the last bison and 00:13:20.019 --> 00:13:23.019 It's funny because they released the first single 00:13:23.019 --> 00:13:26.340 back in 2020 and then they just released the 00:13:26.340 --> 00:13:29.259 EP this week so i think they made a comment about 00:13:29.259 --> 00:13:31.240 like oh i don't know if there's ever been an 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.840 ep where like the lead single was like four years 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:38.440 before the ep um but it's just it's a nice just 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:42.659 four songs so it's like in and out ep but they 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:46.919 they are just so talented like it um they're 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:51.559 great live uh their music's awesome um it's just 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:54.990 it's a really really good ep So yeah, it's been 00:13:54.990 --> 00:13:58.330 pretty much on repeat on my phone since last 00:13:58.330 --> 00:14:00.509 Friday it came out. So you have to send that 00:14:00.509 --> 00:14:04.309 to me because I have no idea. What kind of style 00:14:04.309 --> 00:14:08.350 is it? So the first time I saw them, they were 00:14:08.350 --> 00:14:11.690 all dressed up like people from like the colonial 00:14:11.690 --> 00:14:14.990 era. They were all dressed up as like you had 00:14:14.990 --> 00:14:17.889 teleported people from like the 1800s or whatever. 00:14:18.289 --> 00:14:21.070 And it was just really like acoustic and just 00:14:21.070 --> 00:14:24.220 like there's no like electric instruments or 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:27.259 anything and then it was all like a bunch of 00:14:27.259 --> 00:14:31.379 friends and family so then they they changed 00:14:31.379 --> 00:14:33.860 it up so now it's just like two of the original 00:14:33.860 --> 00:14:37.720 members and it's more of like I guess like a 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.159 indie type of I tell people it's like they plugged 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.039 in the instruments is like yeah so it's really 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.799 cool so if you really like like acoustic stuff 00:14:48.889 --> 00:14:51.350 They've got like a ton of that in their library. 00:14:52.389 --> 00:14:54.090 And if you like stuff that's got a little bit 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.169 more of a kick with like indie rock or like indie 00:14:58.169 --> 00:15:02.970 pop rock or whatever, it's really good. So yeah, 00:15:03.049 --> 00:15:04.409 they fall into that. So they got a little bit 00:15:04.409 --> 00:15:06.110 of it. There's like a buffet. They got a little 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:08.730 bit for everyone in their discography. That sounds 00:15:08.730 --> 00:15:10.769 fun. I'm going to have to go check that out. 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.519 Yeah, for me, there's been a couple of things. 00:15:14.059 --> 00:15:17.000 One, have you listened to the new record by the 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.120 Rocky Valentine's? Yeah. Do you know what the 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.779 Rocky Valentine's are? I've listened to them 00:15:21.779 --> 00:15:24.899 a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Jason Martin 00:15:24.899 --> 00:15:28.080 from Star Flyer. This is his kid, Charlie, I 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.879 think is his name, who has this band and their 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.480 first record. He recorded all of it by himself, 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:36.259 but he's like gathered some musicians together. 00:15:36.259 --> 00:15:38.100 And so they have a new record called Music on 00:15:38.100 --> 00:15:42.529 the Shelf and it's really good. It's got a really 00:15:42.529 --> 00:15:45.350 good vibe. It's a little like all over the place, 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:49.129 but if you like Star Flyer and you took that 00:15:49.129 --> 00:15:54.730 and maybe kind of made it a little more, I don't 00:15:54.730 --> 00:15:59.610 even know, a little more exciting or poppy, then 00:15:59.610 --> 00:16:01.529 you might have a good picture of like what that 00:16:01.529 --> 00:16:04.049 record looks like. But there's some really cool 00:16:04.049 --> 00:16:05.889 guitar work. And so I've been enjoying that. 00:16:05.990 --> 00:16:08.470 And the other one for me is like a throwback. 00:16:08.570 --> 00:16:11.950 It's a remaster of a record that just came out 00:16:11.950 --> 00:16:15.250 that's been like basically MIA, Missing in Action. 00:16:15.450 --> 00:16:17.690 It hasn't been on streaming or anything, but 00:16:17.690 --> 00:16:22.389 there's a band called Rose Blossom Punch from 00:16:22.389 --> 00:16:25.690 the late 90s, and they put out a record that 00:16:25.690 --> 00:16:29.529 I used to listen to a lot called Ephemere. And 00:16:29.529 --> 00:16:31.230 Rose Blossom Punch, you know Aaron Sprinkle? 00:16:32.180 --> 00:16:34.419 Serian Sprinkle was like the guy behind Rose 00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:36.419 Blossom Punch. It was one of after, I think it 00:16:36.419 --> 00:16:41.480 was after Paul Liu. He went into that, but it's 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.519 such a good record. And so they really took it 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.720 and like transformed it and it sounds so good. 00:16:48.899 --> 00:16:51.580 And so that one's been fun to like go back into 00:16:51.580 --> 00:16:54.080 and dig into. So I've really enjoyed that. That's 00:16:54.080 --> 00:17:01.809 really cool. All right, so it's time for us to 00:17:01.809 --> 00:17:06.710 get into our discussion of the record Talking 00:17:06.710 --> 00:17:11.609 Voice versus Singing Voice by Starflyer59. And 00:17:11.609 --> 00:17:13.710 so just a little bit of history for the record. 00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:16.990 I'll kind of lay some things out for us. If you 00:17:16.990 --> 00:17:20.670 follow Starflyer59, you know they've been through 00:17:20.670 --> 00:17:23.450 some shifts in sound over time. You were even 00:17:23.450 --> 00:17:25.430 talking earlier about other shifts you felt like 00:17:25.430 --> 00:17:29.059 have been happening. but they've definitely had 00:17:29.059 --> 00:17:31.740 some musical ones and so from like the early 00:17:31.740 --> 00:17:34.380 kind of shoegaze sound of silver and gold to 00:17:34.380 --> 00:17:37.299 the more like pop synth focus sounds of like 00:17:37.299 --> 00:17:40.339 fashion focus and everybody makes mistakes, which 00:17:40.339 --> 00:17:42.920 is what I, those are my favorite records by them. 00:17:43.369 --> 00:17:46.349 Then like more shifts with Old and then I Am 00:17:46.349 --> 00:17:48.970 the Portuguese Blues kind of like went backwards 00:17:48.970 --> 00:17:53.130 a little bit. And so then this record, Talking 00:17:53.130 --> 00:17:55.809 Voice versus Singing Voice, saw the band change 00:17:55.809 --> 00:17:58.930 the sound sort of again a little bit more of 00:17:58.930 --> 00:18:03.049 a follow up to Old than I Am the Portuguese Blues 00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:06.450 had been. And so this record came out on April 00:18:06.450 --> 00:18:10.930 12th, 2005. That's the ninth full length studio 00:18:10.930 --> 00:18:15.130 release from Starflower 59. And for this record, 00:18:15.849 --> 00:18:18.930 if you followed at all Star Flyer 59's journey 00:18:18.930 --> 00:18:23.549 as far as band members have gone, I mean, it's 00:18:23.549 --> 00:18:26.009 definitely always been Jason Martin and sometimes 00:18:26.009 --> 00:18:30.450 been only Jason Martin. And for the recording 00:18:30.450 --> 00:18:33.789 of this record, it was a little lighter than 00:18:33.789 --> 00:18:36.509 it has been for a lot of other albums. And so 00:18:36.509 --> 00:18:40.390 this record was two members, Jason Martin and 00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:43.859 drummer, Frank Lenz. And Franklin's is one of 00:18:43.859 --> 00:18:49.279 the best drummers who's out there. But this would 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:54.460 be the first studio album for them to kind of 00:18:54.460 --> 00:18:58.279 be cut down to this really small crew putting 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:01.079 this thing together. And I feel like that impacts 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.500 the way this record comes off a little bit. Did 00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:07.059 you feel that at all when you were going through 00:19:07.059 --> 00:19:09.759 it and listening to it? Yeah, I was thinking 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.960 while I was listening to it, As someone who doesn't 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.940 know a lot of like pre My Island Starfire 59, 00:19:17.660 --> 00:19:20.019 I was wondering, and I think this is a question 00:19:20.019 --> 00:19:24.819 for you kind of just as we go about this reviewing 00:19:24.819 --> 00:19:29.380 albums, how much does the background of an album 00:19:29.380 --> 00:19:34.140 pour into that album? Because for me, I think 00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:36.680 an album, if you tell me this one person did 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:40.160 it or this one person Yeah, this whole thing 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.519 is it's songs that their kid wrote and they turned 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.920 it into like these songs. To me that adds points, 00:19:46.299 --> 00:19:48.500 but I think for other people they'd be like, 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.400 no, I don't care what the story is behind it. 00:19:51.460 --> 00:19:53.740 It's almost like, I guess like a American Idol, 00:19:53.819 --> 00:19:55.740 how it used to be talent, but now it's like, 00:19:55.980 --> 00:20:00.200 what's your story, you know? And so for you, 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.160 like when you go into an album, do you think 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.319 like if, do you want me to say, hey, here's 10 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:09.059 facts about... the backing, or do you want it 00:20:09.059 --> 00:20:11.039 to say, no, I want this just to be in a chamber? 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.279 I don't want to know Starflyer's other albums. 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.019 I want to know this album. Someone's turned it 00:20:17.019 --> 00:20:20.359 on. Would I say it's good or bad? I feel like 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:26.319 you can't divorce a record from the context in 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:29.160 which it was created. It's almost like if you 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.730 look at a kid. And you're like, I'm just going 00:20:31.730 --> 00:20:35.009 to look at this kid and not examine their parents 00:20:35.009 --> 00:20:37.730 at all and see how these things came together 00:20:37.730 --> 00:20:41.230 to create this thing. I feel like the whole family 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:44.549 matters. And all those things have to go together 00:20:44.549 --> 00:20:47.710 a little bit. So for me, yeah, there are records. 00:20:49.049 --> 00:20:54.190 One of my favorite albums is a record by Sufjan 00:20:54.190 --> 00:20:58.920 Stevens called Carrie and Lowell. And if you 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.140 just listen to that record without understanding 00:21:01.140 --> 00:21:04.000 anything about the context, you would be like, 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:05.799 this is the most depressing thing that I've ever 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:08.839 listened to in my life. And if you divorce that 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:12.079 from the fact that he wrote that record during 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:16.160 a time where he had just lost his mom and was 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.099 grieving the fact of losing his mom and even 00:21:19.099 --> 00:21:21.779 their history together because it had been really... 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:25.339 a really rocky history. I don't think you can 00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:28.839 understand that album without that context. And 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.500 so I do feel like context matters, at least for 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:33.920 me. I don't know, what are your thoughts there? 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.119 No, I think for me, that's a struggle sometimes, 00:21:37.579 --> 00:21:39.799 is even just going forward with it once. I know 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.240 there's going to be artists that I'm like, oh 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.359 man, I was tied to this album 20 years ago, or 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.759 man, this song was so good live, but it's like, 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:51.210 okay, that's... you know, like, does that really, 00:21:51.289 --> 00:21:53.829 am I going to give an album five stars? Because 00:21:53.829 --> 00:21:56.049 I was like, live, it was amazing. You know, how's 00:21:56.049 --> 00:22:00.529 that going? I think for me, too, it is hard to 00:22:00.529 --> 00:22:04.410 give like a bad grade or whatever, if you know 00:22:04.410 --> 00:22:08.309 that you've been into this or whatever. So, yeah, 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:10.009 I think that's that's definitely a struggle. 00:22:10.069 --> 00:22:12.950 And I'm very like envious of those people that 00:22:12.950 --> 00:22:15.309 can be like, no, here, it's very cut and dry. 00:22:15.450 --> 00:22:19.640 This is good or this is bad. So yeah, but I think 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.119 that's what's nice about an album like this is 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.700 that, like I said, I had no idea that it was 00:22:24.700 --> 00:22:26.839 like two people or whatever. So I feel like it's 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.119 almost like it's a less personal decision and 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.579 more just a business decision of if it's good 00:22:32.579 --> 00:22:36.259 or bad. I guess I'm a little off the hook with 00:22:36.259 --> 00:22:38.980 this one versus like some of their later ones. 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:40.980 I feel like it's a little more personal of like, 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:42.960 this album means a lot to me. So it's amazing. 00:22:43.259 --> 00:22:46.099 I don't care if the... drums or mixing's bad. 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:51.220 This lyric helped me. Right, yeah. Yeah, I hear 00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.339 that. And like I said, I think those things are 00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:56.619 all kind of go together. Anything else for you? 00:22:56.819 --> 00:23:01.039 Just kind of any other opening thoughts or ideas 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.759 like going into this before we really start digging 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.609 into the songs? I think I'm good. I think I'm 00:23:06.609 --> 00:23:08.650 ready to go ahead and dig in. All right, well 00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:11.789 on that, let's do it. Let's go into it. And so 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:13.470 we would just encourage you as we talk through 00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:15.849 these things because we're not legally allowed 00:23:15.849 --> 00:23:19.450 to play them for you as we talk. But that doesn't 00:23:19.450 --> 00:23:21.869 mean that you can't go and hit play on a stereo 00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.269 that you have while we talk through these tracks. 00:23:24.410 --> 00:23:26.410 And so if you want to do that while we're walking 00:23:26.410 --> 00:23:28.089 through it, it may give you a better feel and 00:23:28.089 --> 00:23:29.589 context for some of the things that we're talking 00:23:29.589 --> 00:23:33.460 about. So the first track. on Talking Voice versus 00:23:33.460 --> 00:23:37.259 Singing Voice is the song The Contest Completed. 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:39.420 What were your thoughts on this one, Brandon? 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.740 I think it's a good opener and I think it sets 00:23:41.740 --> 00:23:46.319 the tone. I think for me of albums, I almost 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:50.740 see them as a like a movie or a concert. So it's 00:23:50.740 --> 00:23:54.740 like, I feel like you need to like, hook me with 00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:57.599 it. There's been some albums where I'm like, 00:23:57.660 --> 00:23:59.440 yeah, first three tracks, you can skip those, 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.740 but it gets really good at track four. So for 00:24:01.740 --> 00:24:04.119 me, that's really important. And I think this 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:07.240 one, it sets the tone for what to come the rest 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.099 of the album. Like there's really not, they don't 00:24:10.099 --> 00:24:12.759 stray away from like the Starfire formula. So 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.599 I think it's a good opener. Yeah, I think that's 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:20.539 true. And Jason Martin tends to put records together 00:24:20.539 --> 00:24:23.519 in that way. Like there's kind of a common sound 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.039 or theme that runs throughout the course of most 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.299 of the record. And I think this is a great opener 00:24:29.299 --> 00:24:31.599 for this one, and probably one of my favorite 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:36.579 tracks on the record. There's that high little 00:24:36.579 --> 00:24:40.039 synth melody that's happening in the opening, 00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:43.299 and I'm just addicted to that thing. The melody 00:24:43.299 --> 00:24:45.940 of it's so good, and then the sound of it is 00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:51.440 so good. I'm not much of a dancer, but the song 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.799 makes me want to move. But honestly though, when 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.579 we get to the chorus... And it's not my favorite 00:24:56.579 --> 00:24:59.660 Starfire chorus. And so it kind of holds me back 00:24:59.660 --> 00:25:04.940 a little bit on that one. But I do think that 00:25:04.940 --> 00:25:08.460 I think it's a good track. And I liked how at 00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:12.539 the end there's like this movement that happens 00:25:12.539 --> 00:25:15.319 where all of a sudden you hear this piano and 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.420 I think is what an accordion happening. And that 00:25:19.420 --> 00:25:24.599 was a cool like texture change. For me, I gave 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:28.019 this one rating out of about one to five. I gave 00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:32.700 this track a four. I thought, I liked it. I liked 00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:35.940 it a lot. Yeah. I think going forward, you can 00:25:35.940 --> 00:25:37.859 expect number of grades for each song. I feel 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:40.359 like for me, I'm more of a, we'll wait till the 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:46.240 end to see what's in the gumbo. All right. Sounds 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:50.170 good. We can kind of wrap. wrap some of that 00:25:50.170 --> 00:25:52.150 up when we talk about what some of our favorite 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:54.630 tracks are as well as we get to it. Alright, 00:25:54.769 --> 00:25:59.089 track number two is Easy Streets. Easy Streets. 00:26:00.009 --> 00:26:03.089 I liked, so this record, because there's not 00:26:03.089 --> 00:26:05.750 like a bass player on it, all of the bass is 00:26:05.750 --> 00:26:09.529 like synth bass. And so... I feel like because 00:26:09.529 --> 00:26:11.750 of that, it's really fun to listen to on headphones 00:26:11.750 --> 00:26:15.329 because it sounds really big and full. I love 00:26:15.329 --> 00:26:18.349 the bass on this because of the synth that's 00:26:18.349 --> 00:26:21.869 going on. There's also something that we get 00:26:21.869 --> 00:26:25.809 introduced to more on this song that is a constant 00:26:25.809 --> 00:26:28.109 through a lot of the record, and that is strings. 00:26:29.529 --> 00:26:33.349 This is the string record for Starfire 59. They're 00:26:33.349 --> 00:26:37.470 all over it. Um, but, but I really, um, I really 00:26:37.470 --> 00:26:41.369 liked that and appreciate it. And, um, the chorus, 00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:44.250 um, to me, it was uplifting. Like there's this 00:26:44.250 --> 00:26:47.450 like rising kind of set part that's happening 00:26:47.450 --> 00:26:50.230 on it. Um, and I thought that was really cool. 00:26:50.230 --> 00:26:53.170 And I liked where the chorus was going. Um, to 00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:55.609 me, this song's like, this is orchestral Starflower. 00:26:55.730 --> 00:27:02.099 Yeah. I think for me, um, so I like to. I feel 00:27:02.099 --> 00:27:05.119 like listen to an album two or three times before 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.559 I review it because there's things you miss the 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.640 first you only listen to it one time and out 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.599 of all the songs this was the one that I think 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.299 that I grew to like more and more like all the 00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.740 other ones kind of stayed where there wasn't 00:27:18.740 --> 00:27:21.359 anything else I really found in them but yeah 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.619 this one was that I feel like the more you listen 00:27:23.619 --> 00:27:26.180 to it the more you picked up and I like different 00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:29.049 stuff about it Yeah. I even felt there was like 00:27:29.049 --> 00:27:31.529 a muted trumpet or something at some point, which 00:27:31.529 --> 00:27:35.109 was cool. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good track. It 00:27:35.109 --> 00:27:40.230 was a good track for me. 3 .5. So, all right. 00:27:40.650 --> 00:27:43.470 You want to talk us through track number three? 00:27:43.710 --> 00:27:47.829 Yes. We're looking at Good Sons. For me with 00:27:47.829 --> 00:27:51.509 this one, I thought it was a really cool verse 00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:54.150 and chorus transition. I really like that section 00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:56.960 where you have this verse and you're going and 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.759 then you shift over to the chorus. So to me I 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.079 really liked that. I think it was one of the 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.099 highlights of the album for me. Yeah, I really 00:28:06.099 --> 00:28:10.359 love this one a lot. It's kind of a jam. Makes 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.740 me want to move a little bit. The synthesizers 00:28:13.740 --> 00:28:17.880 on this thing are so big and the fuzz guitars 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.900 all together and it's like you've got this big 00:28:20.900 --> 00:28:22.880 thing going on and then you just want to like 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.819 groove at the same time. So it's kind of a cool 00:28:24.819 --> 00:28:28.359 like mix of stuff that's going on. I can like 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:32.869 hear... some of Jason's brothers like Ronnie. 00:28:33.089 --> 00:28:35.430 I can hear a little bit of Ronnie influence on 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:38.269 this track a little bit too, which is a fun thing 00:28:38.269 --> 00:28:40.329 that you get sometimes with the Martin brothers. 00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:44.849 I think for me, the next track, A List, goes 00:28:44.849 --> 00:28:49.650 on. It was a song that kind of, I felt like the 00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:52.130 violin was a nice touch and this song was kind 00:28:52.130 --> 00:28:57.349 of separated from the other songs. And like before 00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:01.089 you record it, I was making the equating Star 00:29:01.089 --> 00:29:04.650 Flyer to the show Parks and Rec. There's a character, 00:29:04.750 --> 00:29:06.950 Ron Swanson, and they're having this like burger 00:29:06.950 --> 00:29:08.809 cook off. Yeah. And the other character does 00:29:08.809 --> 00:29:11.710 this like all these ingredients, all these sauces, 00:29:11.910 --> 00:29:14.069 a marinade, blah, blah, blah. And then Ron just 00:29:14.069 --> 00:29:17.650 walks up and says, it's just meat and bread and 00:29:17.650 --> 00:29:20.529 ketchup you want. I don't care. And I think that's 00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:24.529 what Star Flyer is, is that it's very like it's 00:29:24.529 --> 00:29:27.869 very basic. like what they're doing, but they 00:29:27.869 --> 00:29:31.289 do it so well. Like it's not a, there's a lot 00:29:31.289 --> 00:29:34.289 of people that would get boring. So I think some 00:29:34.289 --> 00:29:36.509 of their albums, if you don't really know the 00:29:36.509 --> 00:29:39.009 band, it can kind of start to sound the same. 00:29:40.009 --> 00:29:43.089 So I think for me, not really knowing and being 00:29:43.089 --> 00:29:45.930 familiar with the album, this one was cool to 00:29:45.930 --> 00:29:49.289 kind of separate that it wasn't a, okay, here's 00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.529 kind of the regular formula. It's a little bit 00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:54.150 different. So I like the change of pace with 00:29:54.150 --> 00:29:58.450 it. Yeah, I love the opening of it, because it 00:29:58.450 --> 00:30:02.430 felt really different. And then there's the strings 00:30:02.430 --> 00:30:06.829 in this song are total bonkers. But in such a 00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:10.650 fun way. Yeah, I really enjoyed that part of 00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:15.109 it, too. Not like my favorite track on the record, 00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:19.670 but I think a good and fun one nonetheless. So 00:30:19.670 --> 00:30:26.190 track five is Nightlife. This one just reminded 00:30:26.190 --> 00:30:28.349 me again, like the synth bass on this record 00:30:28.349 --> 00:30:32.930 is so good and just so present. It's so good 00:30:32.930 --> 00:30:36.269 to listen to with headphones. And then also one 00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:40.130 of my favorite musical instruments, if it's done 00:30:40.130 --> 00:30:42.789 well in the case of a song, is present here, 00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:46.549 and that's the hand clap, which you don't hear 00:30:46.549 --> 00:30:50.440 a ton on Starfire. albums but that was cool and 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.740 you've got Oregon this song just reminded me 00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:58.099 that this in some ways like this album is like 00:30:58.099 --> 00:31:02.359 all over the place yeah just seems like it's 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.980 like all all over the place and so really interesting 00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:07.339 ways I feel like he was just trying some some 00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:11.240 things creatively and it's got a really awesome 00:31:12.049 --> 00:31:15.410 like drum, like jam breakdown thing that happens 00:31:15.410 --> 00:31:17.509 towards the end of the song. So you get to experience 00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:21.509 Franklin's in a pretty cool way. This song, the 00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:24.250 first thing I thought of when I heard it was 00:31:24.250 --> 00:31:27.890 Jason's side project, Neon Horse. And I was like, 00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:30.930 this sounds like it could be like, I kept on 00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:32.930 waiting for like Mark Solomon's voice to come 00:31:32.930 --> 00:31:36.569 in with the like singing. I feel like it was 00:31:36.569 --> 00:31:39.470 cool, like just to think of it as that and be 00:31:39.470 --> 00:31:42.339 like, Oh man, you can see a lot of the similarities. 00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:45.299 I guess it's not really coming on the track. 00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.880 It's more of like, man, Neon Horse is cool. And 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.680 it got me thinking like, man, what if they covered 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:54.339 some of their old songs from their different 00:31:54.339 --> 00:31:59.240 projects? But I guess it's a very unrelated review 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.619 of the song. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. For me, this 00:32:03.619 --> 00:32:05.960 one is just kind of mid. Again, it's not one 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.079 of my favorite tracks. But yeah, moving into 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:15.119 track number six, Good Living. I really want 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.259 to hear what you thought about this one. I think 00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:22.500 with this one, I think Starflyer 59 does such 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:25.819 a good job of feeling sincere. And I feel like 00:32:25.819 --> 00:32:31.180 the song was very like emotional. And I really 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.920 liked it. I think this was the first track that 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.359 made me like. stop and be like, oh, let me listen 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.539 to that again. But yeah, I think they just do 00:32:41.539 --> 00:32:45.720 such a good job that like, I don't know if I 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.299 can think of a song I've listened to there is 00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:49.319 where I thought, I don't think he really feels 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:54.119 this way. And I think this song really showcases, 00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:57.559 it honestly showcases to me a lot of the stuff 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.200 that I've loved or come to love from like my 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.690 era of Star Flyer that I'm into. It feels like 00:33:05.690 --> 00:33:11.529 more of a post -2006 or 2007 or whatever. So 00:33:11.529 --> 00:33:15.970 I'm just gonna put it out there. This is my favorite 00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:20.490 track on the record. I love this song. I love 00:33:20.490 --> 00:33:25.269 the slow drive of it at the beginning. The vocal 00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:31.500 melody is so good. And I also have a special 00:33:31.500 --> 00:33:34.819 place in my heart for an artist that's not afraid 00:33:34.819 --> 00:33:38.819 to address his faith anymore. And so it's cool 00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:41.880 to see that happen here. And of course, there's 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.940 a history of that with Starflower, not in an 00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:47.660 overdone way at all, but like you said, like 00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:51.339 a really just real and authentic kind of way 00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:55.000 that you can tell that. this is what he believes 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.160 as he's getting in here. It's got one of my favorite 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.059 lines from the whole record too, but yeah, I 00:34:00.059 --> 00:34:05.619 love this track. Track number seven, Softness 00:34:05.619 --> 00:34:11.420 Goodness. For me, this is fun. It's got hand 00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:15.039 clapping again. It's got a fun opening. I feel 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.289 like this song is a vibe. I don't have a lot 00:34:19.289 --> 00:34:22.530 to say. Yeah, for me it was kind of like, it's 00:34:22.530 --> 00:34:24.230 a track that's there. It didn't really stand 00:34:24.230 --> 00:34:27.429 out. Maybe it's just because I love the, like 00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:29.829 you go from this high of the next track and then 00:34:29.829 --> 00:34:33.670 you're like, oh, okay, this other one. Maybe 00:34:33.670 --> 00:34:35.449 it's like the placement of it. But yeah, for 00:34:35.449 --> 00:34:38.150 me it was like, oh, okay, like it's nothing bad 00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:40.550 about it, but it didn't stand out. Yeah, it is 00:34:40.550 --> 00:34:43.409 a good one. And so I'm thankful, thankful for 00:34:43.409 --> 00:34:47.139 sure that it's there. All right, tell us about 00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:48.719 track number eight. We're getting close to the 00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:53.940 end. Something evil. Yeah, for me, I think like. 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:58.219 And again, I didn't really have a lot of notes 00:34:58.219 --> 00:35:00.960 on it. I felt like maybe towards the end, it 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.900 kind of just started dropping off for me. Wasn't 00:35:05.900 --> 00:35:08.219 like a bad song, and I think this is this is 00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:10.800 probably another song that like the third time 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.760 I listened through, I liked it a little bit more. 00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:17.280 Yeah for me it was like I liked it but didn't 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.960 really stand out or anything. Yeah, yeah. I mean 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.239 you can play any StarClar 59 song for me and 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.219 I don't think there's any that I would say that 00:35:25.219 --> 00:35:27.880 I like dislike but this is probably my least 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:31.099 favorite track on the record. Even in the beginning 00:35:31.099 --> 00:35:35.800 I'm like where is this song going? But yeah, 00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:43.369 yeah. Track number nine, Longest Line. Another 00:35:43.369 --> 00:35:47.210 moment where Jason's not afraid to address his 00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:49.769 faith. What'd you think through that one? I think 00:35:49.769 --> 00:35:52.670 it's another one that it feels very different 00:35:52.670 --> 00:35:56.789 from the album. So I really liked that and I 00:35:56.789 --> 00:35:58.929 think it was a great ending. Like I said, there's 00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:02.610 some albums that they don't get good till the 00:36:02.610 --> 00:36:05.710 beginning and there's some albums that it's front 00:36:05.710 --> 00:36:08.449 -loaded with all of the great stuff. But I feel 00:36:08.449 --> 00:36:11.750 like for this one I liked it. Honestly, like 00:36:11.750 --> 00:36:14.469 I started thinking a lot about I wonder if it 00:36:14.469 --> 00:36:17.630 would change the album if you swapped this one 00:36:17.630 --> 00:36:22.070 in the first song around and Just seeing like 00:36:22.070 --> 00:36:24.250 oh man. I feel like this one you are ending on 00:36:24.250 --> 00:36:27.329 like like a higher note Yeah, so yeah, I enjoyed 00:36:27.329 --> 00:36:29.449 that about it. Yeah, I think it's placement is 00:36:29.449 --> 00:36:32.449 good I love the synthesizers in it and again 00:36:32.449 --> 00:36:35.170 is another another one where I'm like I wonder 00:36:35.170 --> 00:36:37.150 if Ronnie had something to do with this like 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:41.070 at some level Mm -hmm, but but yeah, I thought 00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:44.250 it was a good ending. Yeah for for this record. 00:36:44.269 --> 00:36:49.010 So kind of overall then Where where does this? 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.860 Starfar Records sit for you in the pantheon of 00:36:51.860 --> 00:36:56.079 Starfar 59 albums. I think for me, I would give 00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:01.039 it probably a three. I'd say a three out of five. 00:37:01.940 --> 00:37:07.539 I felt like it's not my favorite album, but there 00:37:07.539 --> 00:37:09.960 was nothing about it that I felt like was like, 00:37:09.980 --> 00:37:12.360 I'm never going to listen to this again. And 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.400 to me, that's a good mark of an album is walking 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.920 away from it. Am I going to go back and listen? 00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.960 Am I going to add it to playlist? So yeah, I 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.079 think I'd give it a five. Yeah, like not having 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.920 really spent a lot of time with it before this 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.099 and listening to it. I'm listening to it and 00:37:31.099 --> 00:37:33.500 I'm like, I want to listen to this more. Yeah. 00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:37.159 Um, and so I feel like it drew me in and yeah, 00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.880 it may not be in my like top five Starfly 59 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.579 records, but I think with any record Jason puts 00:37:42.579 --> 00:37:45.239 out, there's always like something that draws 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.179 me in and then I want, I want more of it. So 00:37:48.179 --> 00:37:52.340 I, I can see myself listening, um, to good living, 00:37:52.340 --> 00:37:56.880 um, for Years to come. Yeah, I love that track 00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:58.940 and I think there's probably several in here 00:37:58.940 --> 00:38:01.559 that I'm gonna end up adding to different lists 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.000 or whatever So I'm gonna go ahead and give it 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:08.800 a three point five. Okay out of five Yeah, I 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.380 think I think it's a good record yeah, so That 00:38:12.380 --> 00:38:16.900 is a rap on Talking voice versus singing voice, 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.199 which is the first album that we've covered on 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.159 our podcast. Hey, are you listening? Which is 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.940 really fun One of the things that we want to 00:38:24.940 --> 00:38:28.980 do every week because we have this connection 00:38:28.980 --> 00:38:32.360 over Starfire 59 is that we want to highlight 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.820 a lyric from a Starfire 59 song that we're going 00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:50.500 to call the lyric of the week every week. So 00:38:50.500 --> 00:38:53.920 the lyric of the week for this week is from the 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.760 song good living and it's this what's the use 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:03.000 of living if you can't make a good living what 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.840 is that what does that mean it's good i don't 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.739 know what it is It's a great line and you can 00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:13.179 tell he thinks it's a great line because he repeats 00:39:13.179 --> 00:39:15.539 it over and over in that song But I have to agree 00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:17.739 with them. Mm -hmm. I love it. I love the word 00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:22.599 play that's there It almost seemed a little It 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.780 almost seemed a little like of a paradox from 00:39:25.780 --> 00:39:29.199 like what he's talking about earlier. Yes Which 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.239 is is interesting. But yeah, that's one I'd love 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.159 to pick his brain about but I think it's a great 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.179 line I love that. Yeah, so All right. Well, we 00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:42.219 are wrapping up our first episode as we do that. 00:39:42.539 --> 00:39:44.840 I want to let you know where you can find us 00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:50.190 on the internet. So we are on X. at HeyRUPod. 00:39:50.570 --> 00:39:54.349 You can come find us there, and both of our handles 00:39:54.349 --> 00:39:56.610 are there as well if you want to follow us individually. 00:39:56.769 --> 00:39:59.309 We're working on some other stuff and hoping 00:39:59.309 --> 00:40:01.010 to have a social media presence out there too, 00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:02.690 so we'd love for you to come and connect with 00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:06.409 us there. Also, if you enjoy what you've heard, 00:40:06.510 --> 00:40:08.989 we'd love for you to keep listening to future 00:40:08.989 --> 00:40:12.329 episodes, and so you can like, you can subscribe, 00:40:12.710 --> 00:40:16.230 you can rate us however you like, hopefully well, 00:40:16.250 --> 00:40:18.599 but we would love for you to continue to join 00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.139 us on this journey. Anything you want to say 00:40:21.139 --> 00:40:25.179 to wrap up? No, I'm pretty excited. Like I said 00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:27.960 at the beginning, I'm pretty excited to visit 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.900 all these new songs and visit some old albums 00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:34.000 I love. So yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, there's some 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.099 fun stuff ahead. So we'll look forward to seeing 00:40:36.099 --> 00:40:37.219 you guys soon.