Well, hello everybody and welcome to the debut
episode of hey, are you listening? This is a
podcast that explores the past present and future
of Christian music My name is Joel and I'm here
with my good friend Brandon and we connected
over a mutual love of some particular artists
But also have a pretty different taste when it
comes to things and so we thought it might be
fun to get together and talk from time to time
and experience maybe some new artists that we
both love while inviting some friends along for
the ride. So I'm pumped for the journey. How
are you doing, Brandon? I'm doing awesome. Yeah,
I'm super excited. I think of this as almost
like when you walk into a record store to buy
your favorite artist, and you realize there's
thousands of different CDs in there. And I feel
like this podcast is kind of how this is. There's
going to be stuff that I love that you've never
heard, vice versa. stuff that neither one of
us has never heard. So I'm really excited to
get to explore it. I feel like we're going to
probably run into that more than we think, just
inviting other people along. Since this is the
first episode today, we're just going to kind
of go, just the two of us in this. And we decided
to connect over an artist that we both have kind
of a mutual love for, and that is Starflyer59.
In fact, our podcast is named after a Star Flyer
59 song. So they were kind of a connection point
for us. Do you remember how that happened and
how we connected over Star Flyer 59? I remember,
I think I made a post on Facebook about Don Quixote's
horse and you commented it and you were like,
yeah, I love those guys. And we were talking
one day, I think it was in the parking lot church.
And I made some comment about like, oh man, you
know that there's a connection with someone like
some obscure band like that. And I think I used
Star Flyer 59 as an example. And you were like,
I know those guys. And then I'm like, is Star
Flyer 59 really that obscure? Because if you
look at their monthly listens on Spotify, I'm
pretty sure it's like in the millions. I don't
even know. But yeah, I think there's a lot of
love for that band out there. But today we're
kind of connecting on an album that, for me at
least, isn't one that I've spent a lot of time
with. And so I guess a little history there.
Tell us about your journey with Star Flyer 59
and where you kind of entered into their world.
Yeah, so we've taught before that it's weird.
I got introduced with My Island. So I feel like
2006 Star Flyer 59 on has been the one that I've
listened to a ton. So really stuff before My
Island, I know very little about the band. And
I feel like for a lot of people, they're like,
that's the golden age of Star Flyer 59 is, you
know, the earlier stuff, the stuff. And so yeah,
with this album in particular, I never listened
to it. I just feel like it's cool when you go
back and I love making playlists on my own where
it's just looking back at songs from like 5,
10, 15, 20 years ago. So with this one being
the 20th anniversary, I thought, man, it's cool
to open up the catalog and jump into it. I love
that. And I love that we both came across them
in completely different eras and different ways.
I remember, I think the first time I ever heard
a Starfire 59 song. Was probably like a songs
from the penalty box or some tooth and L sampler
but specifically what captured me is I Got like
a tooth and nail video sampler and it had It
had a video for I think housewife love song.
Yeah, whatever and I was like what? Is going
on this is so interesting to me and then they
also were on a Steve Taylor tribute record called
I predict a clone. where I think they covered
just a bunch of different artists covered a bunch
of Steve Taylor songs and Star Flyer covered
his song Sin for a Season and still one of my
favorite like covers really cool and just super
heavy. And I was like, this is really awesome.
But I don't think I actually bought a Star Flyer
record until Fashion Focus came out, which is
their fourth. I think their fourth record. And
so then I went real deep and real hard for a
little while. And then I fell out before you
got into it, before my island came around. And
then later on with, I think it was, I am a CEO,
came back in and I've been... invested a lot
in the record since then. And so I kind of have
like a missing era for me, which is where the
record we're going to talk about today falls
in at. And it seems like it's maybe a little
bit of a missing era for you too. So today we're
our episode is entitled. Hey, are you listening
to talking voice versus singing voice? By Starflower
59 so why are we talking about this record today?
If it's not one that either one of us has like
a ton of connection with yeah, I felt like um
The easiest way to jump into it was like I said
going back to like the the anniversaries of stuff
and so for me it was all right well this one
falls under that it's 20 years old so let's just
jump into this one so really it's just i guess
rolling the dice and saying all right this one
that's what we'll do yep yep so here we are the
20th anniversary of talking voice versus singing
voice and so we're going to get into that eventually
but before we do that we want to talk about what's
in the news So let's get to it. What's been going
on in the world of Christian music lately. It's
been kind of an interesting year in the world
of Christian music. We've had like CCM magazine
reappear all of a sudden. And so we're finding
these like avenues to explore and. promote what's
happening in the world of Christian music. And
oddly enough for somebody like me who watched
The Devil Words when I was in junior high and
high school, The Devil Words are still around.
and so and actually the nominees for the 2025
devil words just came out and so i wanted to
see for you if you could guess make a guess today
in 2025 who would be the nominees for artist
of the year at the devil words um so what do
you think who would you who would you pin Man
if you would have asked me this a year ago I
would have been completely lost because this
is where like only listening to like indie music
hurts you You're like who are the kids listening
to these days? But being being back in our grade
school ministry at church, I feel like it's helped
me Connect a little bit more with what's popular.
So if I had to take a wild guess I would say
Phil Phil Wickham up there Forrest Frank's got
to be on that list. We play him non -stop back
there. So you're two for two so far. Doing great.
Lauren Daigle? Yep, three for three. You gotta
have Toby Mack on there. Sorry, there's no Toby
Mack. I'm officially out of touch now. You're
doing well. Any other guesses? Josiah Queen?
Yep, yep. Okay. Four for five. Okay, yeah, I
think that's that's where my looks gonna run
out on it Well, you're missing one of the biggest
and in fact, he's a Charleston. Oh Brandon Lake
Brandon Lake. Yes your namesake the guy you're
in Brandon Lake is on the list and then also
we got CC whinans, which I wonder how many double
words CC whinans Yeah nominated for her career
Pretty cool. So yeah, that's that's interesting
I'll tell you one thing for me, and I love to
hear your thoughts on this, that I think is good.
I think if we were making this list five years
ago, it probably would have all been worship
artists. But I'm beginning to see, and they may
not be like my thing necessarily, but I'm beginning
to see that there are like Christian artists,
like Christian music, there's a re -emergement
of it that's happening. Yeah, I don't know, what
do you think about that? Yeah, I think even in
the world of worship, I remember growing up and
not wanting to touch worship at all. And in the
past couple of years, there's been a change of,
oh, because it used to just be, man, this stuff's
so shallow. Like, I'm a really big lyric person.
And I feel like now there's a lot of stuff that
people will classify as worship. But to me, I'm
like, ah, this is it. more better than like what
I assume worship is. And so yeah, I feel like
it's nice just seeing that there is a depth and
it's songs you would share with someone versus
like, oh, don't open that door. Don't go listen
to that. So yeah, I feel like it is cool seeing
that, like I say, even just someone like a force
rank, but there's people that might think like,
oh, that's kind of like goofy or whatever. But
it's cool having someone that you can tell that
he's putting effort into it. It's not just how
can we Pump out as many songs as possible or
whatever. It's let's put some thought and effort
into this. I feel like it's refreshing. Yeah,
I think that was an intentional thing for him.
Um, I remember when I first started seeing Forrest
Frank put like popping up on social media, um,
that a lot of his like thoughts and ideas were
like, how do we re like just re -engage with
this idea of Christian music, which I think is
a cool thing. And so I'm kind of, I, I, I'll
be honest with you for the longest time. I felt
like in my college years, which has been a while
at this point, but I hated, I got so like over
the whole Christian music thing and I'm like,
music can't be Christian, only people can. But
like I've missed that when it disappeared for
so long and all we were left with is worship
music. And worship music I think is valuable
and has its place. But there's like a whole world
that I grew up in that's like gone, has been
gone for so long. And so I'm excited to see it
begin to find its place again. All right, next
news item. So kind of jumping more into the world
that. I'm more familiar with and I've spent more
time in. My buddy Andrew went to a show last
Friday night in Jacksonville, Florida at the
Murray Hill Theater. Have you heard of this place?
So it's like, I don't know how long it's been
around, but I know that I was in a band in college
and we played at Murray Hill Theater once. Really
cool venue. And it's like, basically a Christian
rock venue. And somehow it has survived over
the last like 30 years and it's still like a
thing. It's still there. And so the other night,
I guess last weekend, my friend Andrew went on
Friday night. They had like a co -headlining
show and it was Goaty Hook and Five Iron Frenzy.
Um, and then Saturday night, um, was bleach that
was playing. And I remember like, I saw a picture
of the marquee and I was like, go to, like 500
and frenzy bleach. And I'm like, is this from
like 1998? What is going on right now? Um, but
I just think that's so cool. Um, to see that
happen again and see that these things are happening.
And, um, um, we kind of had the chance to get
to know a couple of the guys from Bleach a little
bit who spent some time with us at our church.
And really cool guys. I'm excited for them. They're
getting ready for Furnace Fest that's coming
up this year and playing back there. But I just
thought it's so cool to see that going. And I
can't imagine how a venue like that still exists.
But I think it's another one of those exciting
signs for maybe where things are going with Christian
music. So all right. Well, let's talk a little
bit before we get into Before we get into where
we're going with star flyer Let's talk a little
bit about maybe what have we've been listening
to lately that falls like into this world of
Christian music So for you, what what have you
been spending time listening and there's this
it's an awesome band called the last bison and
It's funny because they released the first single
back in 2020 and then they just released the
EP this week so i think they made a comment about
like oh i don't know if there's ever been an
ep where like the lead single was like four years
before the ep um but it's just it's a nice just
four songs so it's like in and out ep but they
they are just so talented like it um they're
great live uh their music's awesome um it's just
it's a really really good ep So yeah, it's been
pretty much on repeat on my phone since last
Friday it came out. So you have to send that
to me because I have no idea. What kind of style
is it? So the first time I saw them, they were
all dressed up like people from like the colonial
era. They were all dressed up as like you had
teleported people from like the 1800s or whatever.
And it was just really like acoustic and just
like there's no like electric instruments or
anything and then it was all like a bunch of
friends and family so then they they changed
it up so now it's just like two of the original
members and it's more of like I guess like a
indie type of I tell people it's like they plugged
in the instruments is like yeah so it's really
cool so if you really like like acoustic stuff
They've got like a ton of that in their library.
And if you like stuff that's got a little bit
more of a kick with like indie rock or like indie
pop rock or whatever, it's really good. So yeah,
they fall into that. So they got a little bit
of it. There's like a buffet. They got a little
bit for everyone in their discography. That sounds
fun. I'm going to have to go check that out.
Yeah, for me, there's been a couple of things.
One, have you listened to the new record by the
Rocky Valentine's? Yeah. Do you know what the
Rocky Valentine's are? I've listened to them
a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Jason Martin
from Star Flyer. This is his kid, Charlie, I
think is his name, who has this band and their
first record. He recorded all of it by himself,
but he's like gathered some musicians together.
And so they have a new record called Music on
the Shelf and it's really good. It's got a really
good vibe. It's a little like all over the place,
but if you like Star Flyer and you took that
and maybe kind of made it a little more, I don't
even know, a little more exciting or poppy, then
you might have a good picture of like what that
record looks like. But there's some really cool
guitar work. And so I've been enjoying that.
And the other one for me is like a throwback.
It's a remaster of a record that just came out
that's been like basically MIA, Missing in Action.
It hasn't been on streaming or anything, but
there's a band called Rose Blossom Punch from
the late 90s, and they put out a record that
I used to listen to a lot called Ephemere. And
Rose Blossom Punch, you know Aaron Sprinkle?
Serian Sprinkle was like the guy behind Rose
Blossom Punch. It was one of after, I think it
was after Paul Liu. He went into that, but it's
such a good record. And so they really took it
and like transformed it and it sounds so good.
And so that one's been fun to like go back into
and dig into. So I've really enjoyed that. That's
really cool. All right, so it's time for us to
get into our discussion of the record Talking
Voice versus Singing Voice by Starflyer59. And
so just a little bit of history for the record.
I'll kind of lay some things out for us. If you
follow Starflyer59, you know they've been through
some shifts in sound over time. You were even
talking earlier about other shifts you felt like
have been happening. but they've definitely had
some musical ones and so from like the early
kind of shoegaze sound of silver and gold to
the more like pop synth focus sounds of like
fashion focus and everybody makes mistakes, which
is what I, those are my favorite records by them.
Then like more shifts with Old and then I Am
the Portuguese Blues kind of like went backwards
a little bit. And so then this record, Talking
Voice versus Singing Voice, saw the band change
the sound sort of again a little bit more of
a follow up to Old than I Am the Portuguese Blues
had been. And so this record came out on April
12th, 2005. That's the ninth full length studio
release from Starflower 59. And for this record,
if you followed at all Star Flyer 59's journey
as far as band members have gone, I mean, it's
definitely always been Jason Martin and sometimes
been only Jason Martin. And for the recording
of this record, it was a little lighter than
it has been for a lot of other albums. And so
this record was two members, Jason Martin and
drummer, Frank Lenz. And Franklin's is one of
the best drummers who's out there. But this would
be the first studio album for them to kind of
be cut down to this really small crew putting
this thing together. And I feel like that impacts
the way this record comes off a little bit. Did
you feel that at all when you were going through
it and listening to it? Yeah, I was thinking
while I was listening to it, As someone who doesn't
know a lot of like pre My Island Starfire 59,
I was wondering, and I think this is a question
for you kind of just as we go about this reviewing
albums, how much does the background of an album
pour into that album? Because for me, I think
an album, if you tell me this one person did
it or this one person Yeah, this whole thing
is it's songs that their kid wrote and they turned
it into like these songs. To me that adds points,
but I think for other people they'd be like,
no, I don't care what the story is behind it.
It's almost like, I guess like a American Idol,
how it used to be talent, but now it's like,
what's your story, you know? And so for you,
like when you go into an album, do you think
like if, do you want me to say, hey, here's 10
facts about... the backing, or do you want it
to say, no, I want this just to be in a chamber?
I don't want to know Starflyer's other albums.
I want to know this album. Someone's turned it
on. Would I say it's good or bad? I feel like
you can't divorce a record from the context in
which it was created. It's almost like if you
look at a kid. And you're like, I'm just going
to look at this kid and not examine their parents
at all and see how these things came together
to create this thing. I feel like the whole family
matters. And all those things have to go together
a little bit. So for me, yeah, there are records.
One of my favorite albums is a record by Sufjan
Stevens called Carrie and Lowell. And if you
just listen to that record without understanding
anything about the context, you would be like,
this is the most depressing thing that I've ever
listened to in my life. And if you divorce that
from the fact that he wrote that record during
a time where he had just lost his mom and was
grieving the fact of losing his mom and even
their history together because it had been really...
a really rocky history. I don't think you can
understand that album without that context. And
so I do feel like context matters, at least for
me. I don't know, what are your thoughts there?
No, I think for me, that's a struggle sometimes,
is even just going forward with it once. I know
there's going to be artists that I'm like, oh
man, I was tied to this album 20 years ago, or
man, this song was so good live, but it's like,
okay, that's... you know, like, does that really,
am I going to give an album five stars? Because
I was like, live, it was amazing. You know, how's
that going? I think for me, too, it is hard to
give like a bad grade or whatever, if you know
that you've been into this or whatever. So, yeah,
I think that's that's definitely a struggle.
And I'm very like envious of those people that
can be like, no, here, it's very cut and dry.
This is good or this is bad. So yeah, but I think
that's what's nice about an album like this is
that, like I said, I had no idea that it was
like two people or whatever. So I feel like it's
almost like it's a less personal decision and
more just a business decision of if it's good
or bad. I guess I'm a little off the hook with
this one versus like some of their later ones.
I feel like it's a little more personal of like,
this album means a lot to me. So it's amazing.
I don't care if the... drums or mixing's bad.
This lyric helped me. Right, yeah. Yeah, I hear
that. And like I said, I think those things are
all kind of go together. Anything else for you?
Just kind of any other opening thoughts or ideas
like going into this before we really start digging
into the songs? I think I'm good. I think I'm
ready to go ahead and dig in. All right, well
on that, let's do it. Let's go into it. And so
we would just encourage you as we talk through
these things because we're not legally allowed
to play them for you as we talk. But that doesn't
mean that you can't go and hit play on a stereo
that you have while we talk through these tracks.
And so if you want to do that while we're walking
through it, it may give you a better feel and
context for some of the things that we're talking
about. So the first track. on Talking Voice versus
Singing Voice is the song The Contest Completed.
What were your thoughts on this one, Brandon?
I think it's a good opener and I think it sets
the tone. I think for me of albums, I almost
see them as a like a movie or a concert. So it's
like, I feel like you need to like, hook me with
it. There's been some albums where I'm like,
yeah, first three tracks, you can skip those,
but it gets really good at track four. So for
me, that's really important. And I think this
one, it sets the tone for what to come the rest
of the album. Like there's really not, they don't
stray away from like the Starfire formula. So
I think it's a good opener. Yeah, I think that's
true. And Jason Martin tends to put records together
in that way. Like there's kind of a common sound
or theme that runs throughout the course of most
of the record. And I think this is a great opener
for this one, and probably one of my favorite
tracks on the record. There's that high little
synth melody that's happening in the opening,
and I'm just addicted to that thing. The melody
of it's so good, and then the sound of it is
so good. I'm not much of a dancer, but the song
makes me want to move. But honestly though, when
we get to the chorus... And it's not my favorite
Starfire chorus. And so it kind of holds me back
a little bit on that one. But I do think that
I think it's a good track. And I liked how at
the end there's like this movement that happens
where all of a sudden you hear this piano and
I think is what an accordion happening. And that
was a cool like texture change. For me, I gave
this one rating out of about one to five. I gave
this track a four. I thought, I liked it. I liked
it a lot. Yeah. I think going forward, you can
expect number of grades for each song. I feel
like for me, I'm more of a, we'll wait till the
end to see what's in the gumbo. All right. Sounds
good. We can kind of wrap. wrap some of that
up when we talk about what some of our favorite
tracks are as well as we get to it. Alright,
track number two is Easy Streets. Easy Streets.
I liked, so this record, because there's not
like a bass player on it, all of the bass is
like synth bass. And so... I feel like because
of that, it's really fun to listen to on headphones
because it sounds really big and full. I love
the bass on this because of the synth that's
going on. There's also something that we get
introduced to more on this song that is a constant
through a lot of the record, and that is strings.
This is the string record for Starfire 59. They're
all over it. Um, but, but I really, um, I really
liked that and appreciate it. And, um, the chorus,
um, to me, it was uplifting. Like there's this
like rising kind of set part that's happening
on it. Um, and I thought that was really cool.
And I liked where the chorus was going. Um, to
me, this song's like, this is orchestral Starflower.
Yeah. I think for me, um, so I like to. I feel
like listen to an album two or three times before
I review it because there's things you miss the
first you only listen to it one time and out
of all the songs this was the one that I think
that I grew to like more and more like all the
other ones kind of stayed where there wasn't
anything else I really found in them but yeah
this one was that I feel like the more you listen
to it the more you picked up and I like different
stuff about it Yeah. I even felt there was like
a muted trumpet or something at some point, which
was cool. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good track. It
was a good track for me. 3 .5. So, all right.
You want to talk us through track number three?
Yes. We're looking at Good Sons. For me with
this one, I thought it was a really cool verse
and chorus transition. I really like that section
where you have this verse and you're going and
then you shift over to the chorus. So to me I
really liked that. I think it was one of the
highlights of the album for me. Yeah, I really
love this one a lot. It's kind of a jam. Makes
me want to move a little bit. The synthesizers
on this thing are so big and the fuzz guitars
all together and it's like you've got this big
thing going on and then you just want to like
groove at the same time. So it's kind of a cool
like mix of stuff that's going on. I can like
hear... some of Jason's brothers like Ronnie.
I can hear a little bit of Ronnie influence on
this track a little bit too, which is a fun thing
that you get sometimes with the Martin brothers.
I think for me, the next track, A List, goes
on. It was a song that kind of, I felt like the
violin was a nice touch and this song was kind
of separated from the other songs. And like before
you record it, I was making the equating Star
Flyer to the show Parks and Rec. There's a character,
Ron Swanson, and they're having this like burger
cook off. Yeah. And the other character does
this like all these ingredients, all these sauces,
a marinade, blah, blah, blah. And then Ron just
walks up and says, it's just meat and bread and
ketchup you want. I don't care. And I think that's
what Star Flyer is, is that it's very like it's
very basic. like what they're doing, but they
do it so well. Like it's not a, there's a lot
of people that would get boring. So I think some
of their albums, if you don't really know the
band, it can kind of start to sound the same.
So I think for me, not really knowing and being
familiar with the album, this one was cool to
kind of separate that it wasn't a, okay, here's
kind of the regular formula. It's a little bit
different. So I like the change of pace with
it. Yeah, I love the opening of it, because it
felt really different. And then there's the strings
in this song are total bonkers. But in such a
fun way. Yeah, I really enjoyed that part of
it, too. Not like my favorite track on the record,
but I think a good and fun one nonetheless. So
track five is Nightlife. This one just reminded
me again, like the synth bass on this record
is so good and just so present. It's so good
to listen to with headphones. And then also one
of my favorite musical instruments, if it's done
well in the case of a song, is present here,
and that's the hand clap, which you don't hear
a ton on Starfire. albums but that was cool and
you've got Oregon this song just reminded me
that this in some ways like this album is like
all over the place yeah just seems like it's
like all all over the place and so really interesting
ways I feel like he was just trying some some
things creatively and it's got a really awesome
like drum, like jam breakdown thing that happens
towards the end of the song. So you get to experience
Franklin's in a pretty cool way. This song, the
first thing I thought of when I heard it was
Jason's side project, Neon Horse. And I was like,
this sounds like it could be like, I kept on
waiting for like Mark Solomon's voice to come
in with the like singing. I feel like it was
cool, like just to think of it as that and be
like, Oh man, you can see a lot of the similarities.
I guess it's not really coming on the track.
It's more of like, man, Neon Horse is cool. And
it got me thinking like, man, what if they covered
some of their old songs from their different
projects? But I guess it's a very unrelated review
of the song. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. For me, this
one is just kind of mid. Again, it's not one
of my favorite tracks. But yeah, moving into
track number six, Good Living. I really want
to hear what you thought about this one. I think
with this one, I think Starflyer 59 does such
a good job of feeling sincere. And I feel like
the song was very like emotional. And I really
liked it. I think this was the first track that
made me like. stop and be like, oh, let me listen
to that again. But yeah, I think they just do
such a good job that like, I don't know if I
can think of a song I've listened to there is
where I thought, I don't think he really feels
this way. And I think this song really showcases,
it honestly showcases to me a lot of the stuff
that I've loved or come to love from like my
era of Star Flyer that I'm into. It feels like
more of a post -2006 or 2007 or whatever. So
I'm just gonna put it out there. This is my favorite
track on the record. I love this song. I love
the slow drive of it at the beginning. The vocal
melody is so good. And I also have a special
place in my heart for an artist that's not afraid
to address his faith anymore. And so it's cool
to see that happen here. And of course, there's
a history of that with Starflower, not in an
overdone way at all, but like you said, like
a really just real and authentic kind of way
that you can tell that. this is what he believes
as he's getting in here. It's got one of my favorite
lines from the whole record too, but yeah, I
love this track. Track number seven, Softness
Goodness. For me, this is fun. It's got hand
clapping again. It's got a fun opening. I feel
like this song is a vibe. I don't have a lot
to say. Yeah, for me it was kind of like, it's
a track that's there. It didn't really stand
out. Maybe it's just because I love the, like
you go from this high of the next track and then
you're like, oh, okay, this other one. Maybe
it's like the placement of it. But yeah, for
me it was like, oh, okay, like it's nothing bad
about it, but it didn't stand out. Yeah, it is
a good one. And so I'm thankful, thankful for
sure that it's there. All right, tell us about
track number eight. We're getting close to the
end. Something evil. Yeah, for me, I think like.
And again, I didn't really have a lot of notes
on it. I felt like maybe towards the end, it
kind of just started dropping off for me. Wasn't
like a bad song, and I think this is this is
probably another song that like the third time
I listened through, I liked it a little bit more.
Yeah for me it was like I liked it but didn't
really stand out or anything. Yeah, yeah. I mean
you can play any StarClar 59 song for me and
I don't think there's any that I would say that
I like dislike but this is probably my least
favorite track on the record. Even in the beginning
I'm like where is this song going? But yeah,
yeah. Track number nine, Longest Line. Another
moment where Jason's not afraid to address his
faith. What'd you think through that one? I think
it's another one that it feels very different
from the album. So I really liked that and I
think it was a great ending. Like I said, there's
some albums that they don't get good till the
beginning and there's some albums that it's front
-loaded with all of the great stuff. But I feel
like for this one I liked it. Honestly, like
I started thinking a lot about I wonder if it
would change the album if you swapped this one
in the first song around and Just seeing like
oh man. I feel like this one you are ending on
like like a higher note Yeah, so yeah, I enjoyed
that about it. Yeah, I think it's placement is
good I love the synthesizers in it and again
is another another one where I'm like I wonder
if Ronnie had something to do with this like
at some level Mm -hmm, but but yeah, I thought
it was a good ending. Yeah for for this record.
So kind of overall then Where where does this?
Starfar Records sit for you in the pantheon of
Starfar 59 albums. I think for me, I would give
it probably a three. I'd say a three out of five.
I felt like it's not my favorite album, but there
was nothing about it that I felt like was like,
I'm never going to listen to this again. And
to me, that's a good mark of an album is walking
away from it. Am I going to go back and listen?
Am I going to add it to playlist? So yeah, I
think I'd give it a five. Yeah, like not having
really spent a lot of time with it before this
and listening to it. I'm listening to it and
I'm like, I want to listen to this more. Yeah.
Um, and so I feel like it drew me in and yeah,
it may not be in my like top five Starfly 59
records, but I think with any record Jason puts
out, there's always like something that draws
me in and then I want, I want more of it. So
I, I can see myself listening, um, to good living,
um, for Years to come. Yeah, I love that track
and I think there's probably several in here
that I'm gonna end up adding to different lists
or whatever So I'm gonna go ahead and give it
a three point five. Okay out of five Yeah, I
think I think it's a good record yeah, so That
is a rap on Talking voice versus singing voice,
which is the first album that we've covered on
our podcast. Hey, are you listening? Which is
really fun One of the things that we want to
do every week because we have this connection
over Starfire 59 is that we want to highlight
a lyric from a Starfire 59 song that we're going
to call the lyric of the week every week. So
the lyric of the week for this week is from the
song good living and it's this what's the use
of living if you can't make a good living what
is that what does that mean it's good i don't
know what it is It's a great line and you can
tell he thinks it's a great line because he repeats
it over and over in that song But I have to agree
with them. Mm -hmm. I love it. I love the word
play that's there It almost seemed a little It
almost seemed a little like of a paradox from
like what he's talking about earlier. Yes Which
is is interesting. But yeah, that's one I'd love
to pick his brain about but I think it's a great
line I love that. Yeah, so All right. Well, we
are wrapping up our first episode as we do that.
I want to let you know where you can find us
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You can come find us there, and both of our handles
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but we would love for you to continue to join
us on this journey. Anything you want to say
to wrap up? No, I'm pretty excited. Like I said
at the beginning, I'm pretty excited to visit
all these new songs and visit some old albums
I love. So yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, there's some
fun stuff ahead. So we'll look forward to seeing
you guys soon.