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Hey guys, and welcome back to the Salt Not Sweetener

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podcast. I'm your host Danielle Townsend and

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this is episode 20. And y 'all, today we're gonna

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get real. I mean, I think we try to always be

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real here, but this is a topic that might be

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a little touchy for some people. that, you know,

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they're under a couple people's skin. I know

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that someone is needing to hear this today, and

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I know that this is a word that I needed to hear,

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and I probably still need to hear every once

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in a while. I think all of us as Christians on

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our walk with Christ can honestly hear this.

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Now, what we're going to focus on today is when

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God answers your prayers. But there's even gonna

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be a little bit more of a focus on this and it's

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about when God is answering our prayers But we're

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choosing not to listen, but we're choosing not

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to hear him when we're choosing to look in the

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other direction When we're choosing to reject

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it because we don't like the vessel or maybe

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because it's not the way that we were expecting

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Or maybe it offends our flesh We're gonna talk

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about that today and y 'all I was Started thinking

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about that when I was reading. There's this book.

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I've picked up recently at the thrift store.

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That's called Becoming a woman who listens to

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God by Sharon James, but this is not just for

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women. I want to make that very clear what this

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Story that I'm about to share and this topic

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we have today is for everybody because everybody

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Has witnessed this has experienced this okay?

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No, she shared this book she shared the story

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that always resonated with her about a man who

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Climbed to the it was during a hurricane season

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this man climbed to his roof the roof of his

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house to escape the flood waters and while he

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was on his roof he was praying to the Lord saying

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Lord, please save me and There is a man on a

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boat that came by to offer take and I put you

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on my boat and take you to safety And let me

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and said no, I'm waiting on God. I'm praying

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to him and sent the man away and then he continued

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to pray and the helicopter flew overhead and

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offered to throw down a rope and lift him to

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safety and he said no I don't want your help

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I'm waiting on God and sent the man away and

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then he continued to pray and a family on a raft

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came by and they said we have one spot left and

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we can put you on our raft we can paddle to you

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do you want us to like help you? And the man

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said, no, I'm waiting on God. I'm waiting on

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God's hand. I'm waiting on God's help. I'm praying

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to God. And sent them away. And after he sent

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people away these three different times that,

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you know, when we look at it, those look like

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miraculous answered prayers from outside perspective.

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When I was reading that, I immediately saw that

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God is answering his prayer. God is sending him

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people offering to bring him the safety that

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is God moving through people that is God moving

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through his children that is God answering but

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see in the story the man didn't see it that way

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in the story the floodwaters began to rise and

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as the man was starting to be overcome by these

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floodwaters he started crying out to the Lord

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saying like Lord why why didn't you answer my

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prayer why didn't you save me And the Lord responded

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to him. I tried But you're not listening to my

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answers And man that that had me really thinking

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reflecting how many times are we praying to the

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Lord saying Lord Show me show me the truth Lord

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give me clarity Lord strengthen my discernment

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Lord get Show me what to do Lord. Give me an

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answer. Give me a way out. Give me and when God

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delivers that answered prayer. When God answers

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that prayer, how many times will we say, that's

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not from God? Or we say, I'm waiting on something

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else. I'm waiting on something better. How many

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times we find a way to reject? How many times

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we choose not to listen to what God is saying?

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You know, I was, the more I was thinking about

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that story, I was like, what did this man expect?

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He was praying on God to save him. God sent three

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different people coming and offering him right

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there, ways out of his problems, ways out of

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what he's going through. Was he expecting Jesus

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to descend from heaven and to come through the

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clouds at that very moment and pluck him up himself?

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I mean, I'm a firm believer, obviously, that

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Jesus will be descending one day again, you know.

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I'm a firm believer that Jesus Christ was making

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a return but you know I was reading this thinking

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is he expecting Jesus to return right now and

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with his own hand lift him up? Was he expecting

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God to give him wings and he flies away? Was

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he expecting all the sudden all the flood waters

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to just go all the way down and he's downstairs

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sitting on his couch eating potato chips in 10

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minutes? He was praying for salvation. He was

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praying to be saved in the situation. And God

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sent him a boat, a raft, and a helicopter, and

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people offering help. But he rejected it and

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said, no, I'm waiting on God. And that's, you

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know, again, I was picking apart, like, what

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was he expecting? I saw that clearly as this

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is an answered prayer. Was he expecting something

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that looked even more miraculous? Something that

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looked even more... unbelievable I would always

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say those are some miraculous offers people coming

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by because in times of stress a lot of people

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tend to focus on themselves so the fact that

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you know in the story there are three different

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people who while trying to save themselves they

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took time out to try to help him that's already

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miraculous enough and y 'all I'm speaking from

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experience because I know that especially like

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When I gave my fully surrendered my life to Christ

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I Say that as a monumental moment because that

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was the moment where I finally recognized that

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was like my ways You know, I prayed to the Lord

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when I gave my life to Christ saying like at

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the at that time was freshly 25 and I had said

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Lord for 25 years. I have tried it my way I have

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found reasons to hold on to my sins. I have found

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reasons to keep these doors open. I have tried

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to control situations. I've tried to make things

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work my way. I have tried to speed things up.

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I've tried to slow things down. I have put my

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hand in every step of the way. I've leaned on

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my own understanding and my own ways. And my,

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the reason why when I say like my surrendering

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moment was because that was the moment where

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I said, and none of it has worked because here

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I still am. and I know that Lord what you are

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calling me to do might not be the easiest way

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but I am understanding that you are trying to

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build a firm foundation and what is from you

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will not be shaken what is from you will last

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and what is from you is good and what is of my

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own creation is not and my own ways have not

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worked to this point my own ways have gotten

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me knee -deep in my own crap I'm gonna fully

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submit and try your way And that was my way of

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saying so Lord you want me to at that point I'd

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already quit being a tarot card reader because

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I had already felt the conviction But at that

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point I threw out the cards where I was like

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if your hand causes you to send cut it off I'm

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gonna throw out the possibility of me ever being

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able to go back to that I Had submitted in that

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moment like Lord if you want me to be single

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my entire life will be single my entire life

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Lord if you want me to 100 % be off social media

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Because I used it to lead people straight at

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one point in my life. I will never get on again

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Like I was ready to submit all of my desires

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to the Lord in that moment and that's when I

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called out my surrendering my life to Christ

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is when it was my true like all of my desires

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and all of my thoughts and my wants and my needs

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have gotten me to this point. I'm giving them

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to you and I want you to guide my life. I want

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you Lord to pick my partner. I want you Lord

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to lead me to the right job. I want you, Lord,

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to pick my friends. I want you, Lord, to pick

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my environment. I want you, Lord, to show me

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the way. I don't want my own way. So when I tell

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y 'all my surrender in my life to Christ moment

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was because that was a moment that was so pivotal

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for me. You know, growing up in the church, I

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never submitted or surrendered in that way. And

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that's why it was so impactful for me. But in

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the years leading up to that time, I got into

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New Age spirituality where I was listening to

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a lot of voices that weren't from the Lord. A

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lot of the voices I was listening to were validating

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my sin, and were validating me having open doors,

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and were actually feeding into a lot of my open

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doors I've shared in the last podcast were unforgiveness,

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mistrust, resentment. You know, not truly loving

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people unconditionally, not having the love of

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Christ, a lack of identity in Christ. I had a

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real desire to be impervious, but I was trying

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to figure it out my own way. And I'm telling

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y 'all, a lot of the life decisions I made and

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a lot of the problems I had in my life stemmed

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from unforgiveness because my unforgiveness led

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me to a lot of trauma responses. and led me to

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a lot of decisions and a lot of reactions and

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a lot of ways of thinking and ways of operating

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that were not Christ -like. If I held up like

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90 % of what I was doing or what was going on

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in my mind, no matter my intention, because I

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thought what mattered was as long as I have good

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intent, God knows my heart. No, like that's not

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all that matters. That was how I was really defending

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things at the time. If I would have held up...

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my thoughts and what I was doing and what I was

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defending and open doors, I would have seen that

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a lot of them did not align with scripture. They

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aligned with fleshly desires and worldly desires.

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They aligned with lies of the enemy, lies of

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the devil, but they didn't align with the Lord

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of the Lord. But I was listening to so many voices

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especially online like I would go online I would

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scroll on the algorithms and I would be hearing

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constantly from terror readers and Oracle readers

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and psychic mediums and people that were passing

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off prophetic words but if you held them up to

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the Bible and you prayed to the Lord I would

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see that those were not words from the Lord.

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I wasn't testing them like I should. A lot of

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things I was receiving I wasn't testing them

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like I should have been. And it would have been

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very clear that they were from the enemy, but

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I wasn't testing them because it was telling

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me what I wanted to hear and it was feeding further

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into my delusions. It was feeding further, and

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what I mean by delusions is me believing that

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my sin was justified, and me believing that my

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disobedience to the Lord was justified, me believing,

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you know, once you have those roots, you're willing

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to accept what a lot of voices are saying. And

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we know that the devil, the enemy, is the father

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of lies. And when I talk about deception, deception

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isn't just lies, because it's a lot easier to

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believe lies when there's truth sprinkled in.

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Deception is truth with lies sprinkled in, or

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lies with some truth sprinkled in. The devil

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masquerades as an angel of light, and it's a

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lot easier for him to get you to believe lies

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and deception if there's some truth that you

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can like, okay, yeah, this aligns, or okay, yeah,

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like, I can prove this. He's able to... add on

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a lot of other things. I can't tell y 'all how

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many times that like I would be scrolling in

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the past when I was a new age and I would hear,

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you know, a reading or hear a message from a

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medium and like they would say a couple things

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where I'd be like, oh my gosh, that resonates

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so heavily that then they would start saying

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some like really kind of crazy stuff. Some really

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kind of like out -of -pocket out there stuff

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that I immediately was like, okay Yeah, I'll

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100 % even though I don't have any like actual

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evidence to back that up or to align with that

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or to believe that I'm just gonna buy into it

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100 % Because of these other things that they

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said they're seemingly truths like that is That's

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deception at its finest And yeah, so I I was

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led astray for a long time. I continued in my

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sin, and I continued doing the things I was doing,

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keeping open doors, because I had voices that

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validated me doing that. And there were many

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times I looked back and see that the Lord sent

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voices trying to path correct me, especially

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in regards to forgiveness. There were a lot of

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people coming at me and telling me I need to

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work on my forgiveness, and I need to let people

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go, and I need to turn people over to the Lord,

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and things like that, and I in one ear and out

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the other. I rejected these people very quickly.

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And my reaction to a lot of these people was

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kind of like, how dare you point out the splinter

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I have when you have a log in your own eye? Like

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I would look at a lot of these people and be

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like, well, I believe you're sitting in this

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area, or I believe you're doing this. How dare

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you point this out at me? And I would immediately

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say, I'm not listening to them. I'll listen to

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Jesus. I won't listen to them. I'll listen to

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God, but I won't listen to them, but I wasn't

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listening to the messengers that God was sending.

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It's funny how I was saying, well, I'll listen

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to God, and when he spoke, I didn't listen to

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him because I didn't like the vessel. And that's

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kind of the root, I think, of what we're getting

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at today is, are you rejecting God's word because

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you don't like the vessel? Are you rejecting

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God's answered prayer because you don't like

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Who he's speaking through I'm gonna be so real

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with y 'all that is a pride that's an ego thing

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and that's something that you're gonna need a

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dose of humility from the Lord and speaking from

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experience Because who are you to think you're

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better than the person that the Lord chose as

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a vessel in that moment? You know that that's

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a pride that's an ego thing Not saying that the

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Lord picked these people because they're better

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than you or because they're perfect or anything

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like that But the Lord chose them as a vessel,

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point blank, period. And when you start saying,

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I'm not going to listen to the Lord, and I'm

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not going to accept the way that He chose to

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answer my prayer, simply because I think I'm

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better than them, or because, you know, I think

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that they have no right to speak to me or talk

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to me. Why though? What prideful space, what

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ego space are you coming from in that moment

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to reject what God is doing? I'm speaking from

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experience y 'all there is a couple of those

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vessels I Even if you would have said that to

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me at the time I would have found reasons There's

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one person who you know I want to be I'm always

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trying to be very careful not to disclose identities

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or say things that like You know, it's so obvious

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that's the person There is a person years ago

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when I was in new age way before I gave my life

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to Christ He was trying to talk to me about forgiveness

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and I didn't want to hear them say diddly squat

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because just 20 minutes ago they were gossiping

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and talking bad about another person. to me they

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were dealing really badly with the sum of gossip.

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they were dealing really badly with competitiveness

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and like envy and jealousy. so i was like who

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are you to tell me about forgiveness when you're

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dealing with these other things? so i immediately

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wrote them off. are you ignoring god's answer

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because you don't like the vessel? And I'm telling

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y 'all that like that wasn't the only person

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that God tried to speak to me through and God

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tried to speak to me for years That's funny when

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I look back every vessel he said I found a reason

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to like say well, no, I shouldn't listen tonight

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There were there were two vessels And I believe

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them to be like kind of like the final people

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who were trying to speak life into me before

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the Lord allowed me to really be turned over

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and just like Broken down to where I would turn

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to him And they were showing fruits in a lot

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of areas of their life love Self -control patience

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peace these people were very giving and very

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loving and very caring and they had some wonderful

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advice But when they started speaking to me about

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forgiving, it was funny, it was that same person

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that they were trying to speak to me forgiveness

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about that this other person was trying to tell

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me about years ago. I started closing up and

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walling off. And I started finding things about

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them. I start picking out of like, well, this

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isn't Christ -like, and this isn't good, and

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this isn't, and this isn't. So I was kind of

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like, why would I listen to them? They're not

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perfect. God never said he would pick perfect

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vessels. There's so many times over when God

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said to people that they were not perfect. So

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many times I think back to Paul. Paul was God's

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chosen vessel to go through and clock a lot of

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things. You see a lot of the letters he was writing

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to people were correcting and redirecting and

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clarifying. He was a mouthpiece for the Holy

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Spirit. He was a mouthpiece for God. But that

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wasn't always his past. We see that he actually

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had a pretty crazy conversion. This man was blind.

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He was blinded after having a really rough history

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of doing some really messy things. I wonder how

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many people heard about the letters he wrote

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or reading the letters he wrote. They're like,

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who's he? Talk, wasn't he the one that once persecuted

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Christians? I think about that sometimes with

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like how many people read from Paul and were

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like, who's Paul to say anything else? Wasn't

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he once Saul? Yes, he was and God still used

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him. Yes, he was and God still chose to use him

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as a vessel. I've seen both sides of it, y 'all,

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because there have been some times where I know

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that the Lord has called me to plant seeds and

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speak things to people and I've been rejected.

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And there are sometimes when I really felt the

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Lord called me to do it in that verse, I've said,

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no Lord, they're going to... I already have a

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feeling of how this is going to go. I don't want

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to do it. And he's given me supernatural strength

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and boldness to do it. Because we actually see

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with Saul, right? When Saul is about to be cured

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of his blindness, he's praying to the Lord. You

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know, there's an angel that comes and speaks

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to, and I don't remember the name, it's been

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a while since I read the story, but he speaks

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to another, angel comes and speaks to another

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man that says, hey, I need you to go and lay

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hands on Saul. Like, I need you to go pray for

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Saul. And he's gonna be healed of the blindness,

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and he already knows you're coming. But that

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man at first is like, you mean like Saul, like,

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that persecutes people, Saul? He was scared,

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he was fearful. He seemed like at first he wanted

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to be like, nah, I'm good. Like, pick someone

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else. What if I walk in there and he kills me?

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It's probably the energy that guy had. When I

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think about it, like, he's used to seeing Saul

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as the man who persecutes the people who believe

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in Jesus. You know? Anything you'd want to run

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away, you wouldn't want to walk into that. But

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he received the boldness and the wisdom and the

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anointing to go into that situation and was an

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answer to Saul's prayer. Do not reject what the

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Lord is doing in your life simply because you

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don't like the vessel or simply because you're

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offended by the vessel. Y 'all there have been

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some times when like honestly I really broke

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down kind of crying to the Lord where it's like

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Lord why do you keep sending me into places where

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they don't want to hear what I have to say because

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I found that a lot of the people that the Lord

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called me to plant seeds for or speak life into

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are people who knew my past. or my history. So

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they were more people that I had past experiences

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with. Or they knew that I wasn't a perfect person

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in the past. I'm obviously not a perfect person

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now either. But they knew I had a sinful life

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in the past. And I remember a couple times breaking

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down to Lord where it's like, why are you sending

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me knowing that they're gonna reject me? And

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the Lord had shown me that that was a lesson

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for me in itself. There were a lot of things

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for me to take out in that. And if you need some

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biblical background that this is the thing that

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happens, look in the book of Jeremiah. Jeremiah

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the prophet was sent by God to God's people to

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warn them and he warned them time and time again.

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It's like the first 30 chapters in the book of

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Jeremiah are just warnings of like if you don't

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turn from idolatry, if you don't turn from the

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sin, if you don't close these open doors to the

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devil that you have open. if you don't stop doing

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this lukewarm back and forth behavior because

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there were a lot of people who had lukewarm behavior

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of like they would do a lot of things that they

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knew were displeasing to the Lord fleshly things

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sinful things and then every once in a while

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ask the Lord for forgiveness and you know once

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they feel like they're in a good space they would

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go back and do it again they didn't have true

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repentance they didn't have a true fear of the

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Lord because if they truly feared the Lord they

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wouldn't go back freely to that thing you know

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and god had sent not only jeremiah he had sent

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many other people many other prophets from the

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lord to speak to them and to say turn from what

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you're doing if you don't there's destruction

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ahead and prophesying that they would be overtaken

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by their enemy that they would be made to serve

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their enemy that they would have scattered land

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they'd be scattered you know that the temples

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would be torn down like God sent warning and

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warning and warning and redirection through all

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these different people, but the people in the

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book of Jeremiah did not want to hear it. They

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turned away God's prophets, killed God's prophets,

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silenced his prophets, and they listened. Their

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itchy ears listened to the voices that affirmed

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their sin and affirmed what they were doing and

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comforted them. They turned to the false prophets.

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They listened to the people that said, No, the

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temples won't fall down. No, God will deliver

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you. He'll deliver you out of this situation.

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He's pleased with you. Totally fine with what

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you're doing. They listened to those voices that

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affirmed what they were doing and made them feel

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comfortable continuing what they were doing and

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they tuned out and shut down the voices that

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told them that they needed correction. The voices

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that made them uncomfortable. The voices that

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were convicting. And how many times do we see

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that happening? Nowadays. You know, this is actually

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something that's been following me. It feels

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like when I look on social media or when I have

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conversations with people or when I'm watching

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TV or even just having private, like, reflection

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time, this is something that has been coming

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back to me a lot recently. That a lot of people

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that... You know, do wicked things, defend these

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sins, defend these open doors to the devil that

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are continuing to do it. Oftentimes, it's they

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have affirming voices. They have other people

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around them that do the same thing, so they affirm

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each other. Other people around them that don't

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feel convicted. So since they don't feel that

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conviction, they don't convict them. People feel

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comfortable to do it when they have another voice

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telling them it's okay to continue. Oh, it's

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okay since you reacted that way. You have a trigger.

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You have a this. That feed into the delusions.

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That feed into the deception. And they have voices

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that feed into anger, feed into animosity, feed

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into whatever it is. The voices are telling them...

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it's understandable why you're doing what you're

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doing continue doing what you're doing are the

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reason why they still are one of the big reasons

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why they still feel comfortable doing what they're

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doing and i'm speaking from personal experience

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y 'all when i When the Lord was trying to send

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people to me to talk to me, and I chose not to

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listen to them, I was listening to the false

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voices. At that time in my life, anytime I opened

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up social media, I would hear tarot card readings,

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I would hear mediums, I would hear all these

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other people that would be saying things that

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affirm my sin, that would be saying things that

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made me feel comfortable being a victim, that

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made me feel comfortable reacting the way I was

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reacting, thinking the way I was thinking, doing

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what I was doing. And I was so listening into

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those voices that were affirming it that anytime

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Because those voices were more frequent than

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the voices that were coming and telling me to

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turn away from what I was doing And once those

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voices would start coming in I would immediately

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shut those down and tune those out the voices

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from the Lord I Would say oh, no, these are the

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deception. These are the lies. These are the

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things that are trying to push me off Like if

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that was true, I would be hearing a lot more,

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you know, but in my head I was saying well that

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was really true That was what I would be hearing

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a lot of and not the other way around which wasn't

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true. That's not true Because I surround it it

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really is what you welcome in and what you surround

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yourself with If you are making it a point to

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surround yourself with people who fear the Lord

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And to put yourself in environments that welcome

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other people that fear the Lord. You put yourself

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in God -fearing environments with God -fearing

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people. If you are listening to scripture, if

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you are listening to all these other things,

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that is more the voices you hear. But if you

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are purposely putting yourself in situations

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where every day you are hearing and you are surrounded

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with things that are un -Christ -like and voices

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that are un -Christ -like, that is what you're

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going to hear more of. At that time in my life,

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like everything I was looking up, My algorithm

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was built on New Age spirituality, so everything

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I was hearing was horoscopes and reiki healers

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and things that feed in delusions about spiritual

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warfare. I understand spiritual warfare now as

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a Christian, but when I didn't understand it

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from a Christian standpoint, when I was in New

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Age spirituality, the devil really manipulated

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my mind on a lot of things and got me to believe

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a lot of things that weren't true, in all honesty.

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But at that time in my life, those were all the

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voices I was listening to. Every time I turned,

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I was hearing voices of people who were defending

00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:13.940
new age, who were defending horoscopes, defending

00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:17.319
all these things. Defending hatred and animosity

00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.980
and anger and frustration and, you know, the

00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:23.200
root of new age and especially witchcraft and

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.980
everything that stems out of that is wanting

00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:31.220
to be in control. and wanting to be the center

00:27:31.220 --> 00:27:33.720
of everything. And the Lord was really calling

00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:35.680
me to release control, but every voice I was

00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.819
listening to was telling me different ways to

00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:40.079
take control and how I should continue taking

00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.920
control. So of course, if that is all I'm looking

00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:48.619
up, if that is all I'm focused on, if that is

00:27:48.619 --> 00:27:50.740
what I have already decided is correct and that's

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:52.759
all I'm choosing to surround myself with, of

00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:54.539
course it's going to be the majority of the voices

00:27:54.539 --> 00:28:02.829
I hear. And glory be to God. I would say especially

00:28:02.829 --> 00:28:08.190
like six months leading up to Six months to a

00:28:08.190 --> 00:28:09.970
year leading up to when I gave my life to Christ.

00:28:09.970 --> 00:28:11.990
He started stripping out every voice out of my

00:28:11.990 --> 00:28:14.769
life That was not from him like every person

00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:18.430
place thing. I Didn't have the ability to school

00:28:18.430 --> 00:28:20.410
on my social media as much glory be to God He

00:28:20.410 --> 00:28:23.190
took out my ability to listen to the false voices

00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:26.450
He he pulled away every voice to where I could

00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:29.269
hear him loud and clear when he was speaking.

00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:35.390
And that was my Book of Jeremiah moment. You

00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:37.309
know, the Lord stripped me to a point where I

00:28:37.309 --> 00:28:39.410
had nothing else to rely on except for him. I

00:28:39.410 --> 00:28:43.289
had no voices to listen to except for him. And

00:28:43.289 --> 00:28:45.329
then he built me from the ground up because I

00:28:45.329 --> 00:28:47.089
didn't listen to him. That was, you know, kind

00:28:47.089 --> 00:28:49.269
of destruction I fell into was losing everything.

00:28:49.569 --> 00:28:51.589
But it was the biggest blessing in a way because

00:28:51.589 --> 00:28:54.950
it gave me the opportunity to lean into him and

00:28:54.950 --> 00:28:57.980
lean on him instead of myself. and I got to see

00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:02.579
how great God is and what he can do. And there

00:29:02.579 --> 00:29:04.779
was a gratitude and appreciation and a purpose

00:29:04.779 --> 00:29:07.700
I've never felt in my life. God will use anything

00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:10.339
for your good and although I see like that New

00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:14.900
Age time and all that as the biggest like disobedience

00:29:14.900 --> 00:29:17.740
kind of moment in my life and like the drifting

00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:22.279
so far away and where I actually was like the

00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.349
lowest. in worldly things and finances and social

00:29:26.349 --> 00:29:29.250
I have no friends as I have no anything like

00:29:29.250 --> 00:29:32.869
the Lord due to my disobedience strict all of

00:29:32.869 --> 00:29:35.630
those things out and you know some people would

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.170
see that as a curse or as like the biggest mistake

00:29:38.170 --> 00:29:40.509
but I actually see that as kind of the biggest

00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:43.829
blessing from the Lord at the same time because

00:29:43.829 --> 00:29:49.390
he used that to finally get me to focus on him

00:29:50.859 --> 00:29:54.960
But I also had to make the active choice to surrender

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.119
and focus on him I could have leaned into my

00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.240
flesh and gone the other way And stayed hard

00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.319
-headed but glory be to God my heart was softened

00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:09.700
And there are some people there are some people

00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:14.160
many people Who that is their story and that

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.640
is going to be their story and if you or the

00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.559
friend, family member, loved one, or a spectator,

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:23.640
someone that you believe is going through something

00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.059
like that, where they're being stripped down,

00:30:26.940 --> 00:30:28.960
because that's the only way the Lord is going

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:30.960
to be able to get through to them, pray for them,

00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:33.480
and pray for the softening of their heart, and

00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.140
pray that they have eyes to see and ears to hear

00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:39.720
what God is doing, and pray that they lean on

00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:43.140
the Lord, and that they finally lean into Him.

00:30:44.659 --> 00:30:46.680
And someone needs to hear today pray to God for

00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.579
guidance on what to do and how to handle it Because

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:52.940
there's sometimes that we so heavily want to

00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:55.539
and reject and come in and save the day and try

00:30:55.539 --> 00:30:58.440
to be the helper when God is calling us not to

00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:02.960
and That is a hard pill to swallow Yeah, because

00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.819
when I was going through what I was going through

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:07.200
I was so angry and upset that there weren't other

00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.359
people that didn't offer me more help and then

00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.019
try to do extra things and try to say extra things

00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:15.180
and do all these extra things then I also recognize

00:31:15.180 --> 00:31:17.099
if they would have it would have prolonged my

00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:19.119
leaning on the Lord because I would have just

00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.359
started leaning on them and leaning into them

00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.700
I saw it actually in the past when I was going

00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:26.380
through things the people who would offer me

00:31:26.380 --> 00:31:31.819
help I would start leaning on them I was not

00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:37.970
leaning towards the Lord so honestly As much

00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:40.329
as I would I would love to say sometimes like

00:31:40.329 --> 00:31:42.089
oh I wish I would have gotten more help and more

00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:44.190
comfort and more if I would have it would have

00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:47.369
prolonged my surrender into the Lord Because

00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:49.150
that would have just been another thing for me

00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:51.769
to put above him another thing will lean on instead

00:31:51.769 --> 00:31:54.630
of him So someone needs to hear today to pray

00:31:54.630 --> 00:31:58.609
to the Lord. Are you even supposed to be intervening?

00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:02.009
Pray for them pray for them every day pray for

00:32:02.009 --> 00:32:04.490
them to the Lord but ask the Lord if this is

00:32:04.490 --> 00:32:08.970
your thing to get involved in Is this your thing

00:32:08.970 --> 00:32:16.029
to put your hand in or are you stopping or delaying?

00:32:16.450 --> 00:32:21.170
God's lesson then turning to the Lord and it's

00:32:21.170 --> 00:32:24.869
really hard Because we like to say that like,

00:32:25.089 --> 00:32:28.130
you know, well love is self -sacrifice and love

00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:30.960
is you know, taking care of them even when they're

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.619
down at their lowest and everything like that.

00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.460
But the Lord has really shown me, and I used

00:32:34.460 --> 00:32:35.960
to say that too, but the Lord has really shown

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.240
me the past couple years that love, the biggest

00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.200
act of love you can do, is releasing your control

00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:46.660
and giving them to the Lord. And that's also

00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:49.700
a big act of faith, is entrusting them to the

00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:54.359
Lord. Remember that just as much as God is your

00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:00.059
Heavenly Father and He loves you, He loves them

00:33:00.059 --> 00:33:03.599
just as much I Think sometimes we forget about

00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.799
that You know cuz we're like no, I don't I don't

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.039
want to allow this person to suffer I don't allow

00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:10.339
them to go through what they're going through.

00:33:10.339 --> 00:33:12.920
I love them. It's like but God loves them, too

00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.579
Just as much as God loves you God loves them

00:33:15.579 --> 00:33:19.519
not much He doesn't love someone more than the

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.599
other it's heartbreaking every time someone dies

00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.680
and They go to separation instead of heaven cut

00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.720
once all of us with Him. And I know it's the

00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.519
reality and it's been spoken of that not everybody

00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.880
is going to go with the Heavenly Father. Just

00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.859
as Jesus Christ spilt His blood on the cross

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:40.859
for you, He did it for them too. Just as much

00:33:40.859 --> 00:33:42.960
as Jesus Christ loved you before you were even

00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.960
born, He loves them. So when you are giving this

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:49.660
person over to God, it's not that you're just

00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:51.420
giving them to your Heavenly Father, you're giving

00:33:51.420 --> 00:33:54.279
them to their Heavenly Father. Trust that He

00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.980
is going to take care of them just as He took

00:33:55.980 --> 00:34:06.640
care of you. I'll be honest too that I had a

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.460
lot of animosity and anger for a while at people

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:12.480
who kicked me when I was down. Because also when

00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.059
I was at that point in my life, there were some

00:34:15.059 --> 00:34:18.280
people who were rejoicing that I was lacking.

00:34:19.019 --> 00:34:21.059
There were people who were trying to contribute

00:34:21.059 --> 00:34:23.500
to that suffering, who were actually trying to

00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:25.880
make it worse. You know, the knife was already

00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.159
in me and they were trying to twist it and make

00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.000
it even harsher. make the hurt even worse, make

00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:32.760
the recovery time even longer, there were some

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.199
people who were taking serious advantage of me

00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:39.579
being at that low point in my life. And that

00:34:39.579 --> 00:34:41.559
was an unforgiveness that the Lord had to work

00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.340
on me in. I didn't think we were being led into

00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:47.579
this topic, but I guess recovering this in the

00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:50.309
podcast did too. when we talk a little bit more

00:34:50.309 --> 00:34:52.929
about forgiveness because I had to forgive people

00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:55.530
that didn't help me out of a loving place and

00:34:55.530 --> 00:34:57.489
out of a place of self -conservation for them

00:34:57.489 --> 00:34:59.110
and them understanding that helping me would

00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:02.670
have just dropped them down and I pray for those

00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:05.730
people that they you know that God really moves

00:35:05.730 --> 00:35:07.750
in their lives and touches their lives and I

00:35:07.750 --> 00:35:10.630
wholeheartedly now like understand why they didn't

00:35:10.630 --> 00:35:16.309
get me out um but there were those people that

00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:20.179
tried to make it worse than what it was already.

00:35:20.980 --> 00:35:22.500
I don't know how to explain it other than kicking

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:27.579
me when I'm already down and that was actually

00:35:27.579 --> 00:35:32.900
God. God taught me so much in that time and honestly

00:35:32.900 --> 00:35:34.440
I think one of the biggest things God taught

00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:38.159
me in that time was empathy because for a long

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.739
time in my life I had like detached emotionally.

00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:45.090
It was a coping mechanism like I had throughout

00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:47.030
my life had so many relationships with people

00:35:47.030 --> 00:35:52.050
where I would just get so hurt and like Really

00:35:52.050 --> 00:35:54.710
backstabbed, you know, I had a cycle of there

00:35:54.710 --> 00:35:57.230
were a lot of people in my life that have addictions

00:35:57.230 --> 00:36:01.789
Or had really unhealthy coping mechanisms and

00:36:01.789 --> 00:36:03.929
they didn't know how to love people correctly

00:36:03.929 --> 00:36:07.610
and I would get hurt a lot I had a thing of like

00:36:07.610 --> 00:36:12.510
actually over giving myself to people Loved ones

00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:18.079
romantic partners friends and when I would get

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.760
hurt and I would have to detach from these people

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.539
like I would realize okay if I keep letting them

00:36:22.539 --> 00:36:26.300
in they're gonna keep hurting I and I remember

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:28.059
the first time talking about when I was like

00:36:28.059 --> 00:36:31.539
14 years old to like a trusted adult saying that

00:36:31.539 --> 00:36:36.239
I could turn my emotions off and explaining that

00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.440
was like I When I was younger like that I wouldn't

00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.119
call exactly turn my emotions off because I would

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.340
think I could But there would always end up being

00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:48.159
some kind of later on like emotional implosion

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.260
from not dealing with my emotions So it was more

00:36:51.260 --> 00:36:53.659
like I was able to compartmentalize really well

00:36:53.659 --> 00:36:55.619
was how a therapist explained it to me later

00:36:55.619 --> 00:37:00.320
on I realized someone was really hurtful for

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.079
me. I'd go into like a survival mode where I'd

00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.260
able to say, okay, my need to get away from them

00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:09.679
and survive is stronger than my love or my compassion

00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.619
for them. So I'm going to move them out of the

00:37:12.619 --> 00:37:15.300
love and compassion box and move them into it.

00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:18.719
They're a danger for me emotionally, mentally,

00:37:18.900 --> 00:37:22.420
whatever. And I would be able to like just block

00:37:22.420 --> 00:37:25.489
them and never speak to them again. and like

00:37:25.489 --> 00:37:27.210
if anyone brought them up or anything like I

00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:30.050
don't know how to explain it but it was like

00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.610
something like they they were like removed from

00:37:33.610 --> 00:37:37.610
a space in my heart where like I I would forget

00:37:37.610 --> 00:37:40.489
that they exist and that was a dissociation and

00:37:40.489 --> 00:37:42.730
I used to call that turning my emotions off when

00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:45.289
I was younger and I'd realize that I couldn't

00:37:45.289 --> 00:37:47.030
actually do that because I was still feeling

00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:49.110
everything and I would still have nights where

00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:53.280
I would just cry for hours and it would just

00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.079
be from that space of like missing these people

00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.300
but also feeling hurt by these people and so

00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:03.860
much but like it was a survival tactic and a

00:38:03.860 --> 00:38:06.519
survival mode that in the moment and for a time

00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.880
I could split them into different compartments

00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:11.360
and if I split them up for long enough just not

00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:12.960
having them in my life not thinking about them

00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:19.500
I could kind of move on in a survival way. And

00:38:19.500 --> 00:38:22.000
along the lines, doing that, I really kind of

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.179
detached with empathy, where I stopped empathizing

00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:26.980
for people as much, and I wasn't really able

00:38:26.980 --> 00:38:31.039
to put myself in other people's shoes. And the

00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:32.800
Lord took me through a time period where it was

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.519
like, when people were kicking me while I was

00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.739
down, and when people were hurting me like that,

00:38:38.739 --> 00:38:39.980
and I was crying out to the Lord, where I was

00:38:39.980 --> 00:38:41.699
like, Lord, don't these people feel guilty? I

00:38:41.699 --> 00:38:45.000
never did anything to them. Some of these were

00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:48.389
people that I... I couldn't understand why why

00:38:48.389 --> 00:38:50.369
they were participating in it when I was like

00:38:50.369 --> 00:38:53.730
I don't know these people in real life like these

00:38:53.730 --> 00:38:57.949
people know me from online I haven't done these

00:38:57.949 --> 00:38:59.929
things these people are believing lies these

00:38:59.929 --> 00:39:05.789
people like why who could bring themselves to

00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:08.590
do that because even when I was detached I couldn't

00:39:08.590 --> 00:39:14.000
find myself to go out of my way to like Especially

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.619
when I got into my adult years, there was what

00:39:17.619 --> 00:39:20.139
I didn't realize as an empathy that was starting

00:39:20.139 --> 00:39:22.559
to be developed again. You know, once I was an

00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.099
adult living my own life and developing kind

00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:28.559
of new connections and stuff, some of those survival

00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:33.300
tactics slowly started melting off. And I remember

00:39:33.300 --> 00:39:34.739
praying to Lord, it was like, Lord, like I've

00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:36.679
done some really wicked things and I've been

00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.559
a really wicked person, but like... I wouldn't

00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.019
have ever even done this like any time I did

00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:43.679
something to someone I at least really felt like

00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:49.880
I could justify it and I just couldn't understand

00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:51.880
the like kicking someone when they were down

00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:58.139
and the Lord used this as an opportunity to really

00:39:58.139 --> 00:40:00.920
instill an empathy in me where I was able to

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.480
put myself in other people's shoes and the people

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.800
who were kicking me while I was down I started

00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.340
putting myself in their shoes and thinking, okay,

00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.019
well, these people are believing these certain

00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:15.440
things. Some of these people need money, which

00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.039
is why they're doing it. Some of these people

00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.820
believe that they've sold their soul to the devil

00:40:18.820 --> 00:40:20.980
and that there is no way out with Jesus. Like,

00:40:20.980 --> 00:40:23.940
I've really started empathizing with a lot of

00:40:23.940 --> 00:40:25.960
these people. But I've also placed an empathy

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.960
in me when, like, when I see other people going

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.380
through, getting kicked while they're down or

00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:33.480
being falsely accused or things like that. There's

00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.800
a new level of empathy I can feel for them because

00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.809
I've been in that position. and I have to forgive

00:40:39.809 --> 00:40:43.750
those people just as much as I forgave the other

00:40:43.750 --> 00:40:46.269
people I found myself especially the first couple

00:40:46.269 --> 00:40:48.489
months after I gave my life for Christ constantly

00:40:48.489 --> 00:40:50.849
praying for those people and praying that they

00:40:50.849 --> 00:40:53.349
turn to the Lord and pray that they get their

00:40:53.349 --> 00:40:55.590
lives to Christ and pray that they feel conviction

00:40:55.590 --> 00:40:58.730
and pray that they see that Jesus Christ is the

00:40:58.730 --> 00:41:02.010
way, the truth, the life so I'm telling you all

00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:05.210
that like any attack that the enemy means to

00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:06.750
harm me I believe this is the direction we're

00:41:06.750 --> 00:41:09.579
going in God will use it for your good even if

00:41:09.579 --> 00:41:12.820
they're laughing and mocking in that time because

00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:16.260
some of these people still laugh and mock me

00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:19.000
to this day, you know, like still make fun of

00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.980
Jesus and make fun of Christians and I believe

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that God is working in their hearts and working

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in their lives anyway. I'm gonna continue to

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pray for them and that was the thing that the

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Lord taught me is like Forgiveness isn't dependent

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on whether or not people shift or change, because

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I was required to forgive these people even though

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they didn't stop doing what they're doing. They

00:41:41.630 --> 00:41:43.909
didn't stop mocking, they didn't stop laughing,

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they didn't stop lying, they didn't stop participating

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in things they were participating in, but I was

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called to forgive them anyway, and turn them

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over to the Lord anyway. Not my own will, not

00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:56.130
my own desires, not my own intent, but turn them

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over to the Lord. and trust that he can reveal

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a lot more and do a lot more than I ever could

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and that it will work out for all of our goods.

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So someone needs to hear this today that any

00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.739
attack of the enemy, anything God can use for

00:42:10.739 --> 00:42:12.780
your good when you humble yourself and you release

00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:15.699
off in your heart. Because God wouldn't have

00:42:15.699 --> 00:42:19.239
been able to develop empathy in me and understanding

00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:24.099
and patience and long suffering. God used the

00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:28.360
attacks of these people. To produce fruits of

00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.920
the spirit and although they were meant to destroy

00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.519
me. God used them to bring me closer to him So

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someone needs to hear that today to like understand

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that God allows all of these Attacks of the enemy

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we see that in the book of Job, and I want to

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be thoughtful with the way I worth us When I

00:42:49.139 --> 00:42:54.519
mentioned us in the last podcast When the devil

00:42:55.710 --> 00:42:59.130
wanted to attack Job in the ways that he did.

00:42:59.150 --> 00:43:02.289
He had to get clearance from God, meaning God

00:43:02.289 --> 00:43:05.849
had a plan for it all along. And someone needs

00:43:05.849 --> 00:43:10.510
to hear today that God has a plan for your life

00:43:10.510 --> 00:43:13.409
and God can use all of these things that have

00:43:13.409 --> 00:43:15.389
been meant to harm you and use them for your

00:43:15.389 --> 00:43:18.090
good and put your faith in that. And if you believe

00:43:18.090 --> 00:43:20.550
that God can turn any of these things around,

00:43:21.150 --> 00:43:23.760
submit to him. because that's the thing is like

00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.519
yes god can do all these things but if you're

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.440
not submitting to his ways if you're executing

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.659
your will and your understanding and your flesh

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:32.420
above him you're not going to see these promises

00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:36.460
come to their full fruition you're waiting on

00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:38.420
god this is just an example that someone needs

00:43:38.420 --> 00:43:41.139
to hear today you've been waiting on god to deliver

00:43:41.139 --> 00:43:42.900
justice and you feel like he's not delivering

00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:46.460
justice but what areas in your life right now

00:43:46.460 --> 00:43:48.960
have you been trying to secure justice for yourself

00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:55.159
I know back when I was in new age there was a

00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.239
couple things that I felt were going on that

00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.199
I really wanted justice in and I wanted the truth

00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.440
to be revealed and I really just wanted things

00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:06.599
to be exposed and it to be shown that like I

00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.820
truly felt like I was being attacked and that

00:44:10.820 --> 00:44:14.519
I hadn't done anything number one deserving of

00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.360
the attack ball so I wasn't doing anything retaliatory

00:44:18.570 --> 00:44:21.590
Like, meaning I wasn't trying to get them back

00:44:21.590 --> 00:44:25.150
harmfully or executing my own, like, I wasn't

00:44:25.150 --> 00:44:27.989
trying to play tit for tat with them. And I was

00:44:27.989 --> 00:44:29.929
getting really impatient of, like, why isn't

00:44:29.929 --> 00:44:31.769
justice being delivered? Because when you're

00:44:31.769 --> 00:44:33.650
in New Age patriarchy, you're relying on relative

00:44:33.650 --> 00:44:37.409
truths, not full truths. And so, you know, I

00:44:37.409 --> 00:44:39.929
wasn't, I just believed, okay, justice would

00:44:39.929 --> 00:44:42.250
be served point blank, period. What goes around

00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:45.590
comes around. I left out the part of submit your

00:44:45.590 --> 00:44:47.449
will to the Lord, the Lord's will over yours.

00:44:47.610 --> 00:44:49.730
It's a thing of I was buying into the half seas.

00:44:50.670 --> 00:44:52.530
You know, you can't have the full promise with

00:44:52.530 --> 00:44:54.510
only believing half of the word of the Lord.

00:44:55.449 --> 00:44:57.829
And it was much later on that the Lord told me

00:44:57.829 --> 00:45:00.690
that justice is the Lord's. And he revealed me

00:45:00.690 --> 00:45:04.150
that, you know, turning people over to him, vengeance

00:45:04.150 --> 00:45:06.889
is the Lord's. He will deliver it. But that's

00:45:06.889 --> 00:45:11.219
also can I have to submit my will to him. And

00:45:11.219 --> 00:45:13.360
I realized that I had been waiting on justice

00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.679
in the past, but every step of the way, I had

00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.599
been going out of my way on social media trying

00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.760
to expose, trying to say, hey, just, you know,

00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.760
there were different ways where I was trying

00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.440
to show my innocence and trying to reveal other

00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.039
people's guilt, which was me taking vengeance

00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.460
and justice into my own hands. And the Lord had

00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:33.719
heavily convicted me of that. He had revealed

00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.019
to me that I actually delayed justice in a lot

00:45:37.019 --> 00:45:39.559
of ways by doing that. and actually kind of made

00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.920
myself look worse than I should have been and

00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.780
actually kind of played into the double's hand

00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:49.699
a lot of times by trying to do it myself, getting

00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:51.639
tired of laying on the Lord. But someone needs

00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.820
to hear that today that God's promises, if you

00:45:54.820 --> 00:45:56.539
want to see the full fruition of them, you need

00:45:56.539 --> 00:45:59.559
to submit your will to the Lord. You need to

00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.340
obey him. And that means closing those doors.

00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:04.900
I feel like this is us kind of coming full circle.

00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.030
It's the beginning of our topic today of You

00:46:08.030 --> 00:46:10.190
know, when we reject the vessels and we reject

00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:13.929
the promises from the Lord, it's oftentimes rooted

00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:18.929
in ego and pride and a lack of humility. And

00:46:18.929 --> 00:46:23.110
I know for me, that was right there. You can

00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:24.889
see that area in my life. I didn't want to wait

00:46:24.889 --> 00:46:28.750
on God, because I felt like waiting on him was

00:46:28.750 --> 00:46:32.510
taking too long. And also, I was only doing half

00:46:32.510 --> 00:46:37.039
of what he called me to do. I was waiting. But

00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.039
I wasn't submitting I wasn't surrendering, right?

00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:44.500
So yeah, so submitting to the Lord is very very

00:46:44.500 --> 00:46:47.380
necessary if you want to see the promises if

00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:50.320
you want to see these things come to their full

00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:55.960
fruition obedience and submission is key Now

00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.039
I pray that the Holy Spirit has spoken to you

00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:04.019
today I pray that the Lord has used me to give

00:47:04.019 --> 00:47:06.300
you some kind of revelation and some kind of

00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:10.500
clarity and I just want to pray for whoever you

00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.300
are listening to this today Dear Lord Heavenly

00:47:13.300 --> 00:47:16.000
Father, I pray that each of those listening today

00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.539
has eyes to see and ears to hear Lord if you're

00:47:18.539 --> 00:47:20.300
putting on their heart to re -listen to this

00:47:20.300 --> 00:47:25.170
again to pick something else up If there is something

00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:27.329
that they're missing, if there's something that

00:47:27.329 --> 00:47:29.070
they have misheard, something that they've misunderstood,

00:47:29.230 --> 00:47:31.690
please illuminate it to them, Lord, and clarify

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:34.630
it for them. I pray, Heavenly Father, that there

00:47:34.630 --> 00:47:37.489
is a humility that they receive. I pray, Heavenly

00:47:37.489 --> 00:47:39.769
Father, that there is a softening of their hearts.

00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:42.010
I pray that those who are listening to us today

00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:44.090
with hardened hearts have softened hearts and

00:47:44.090 --> 00:47:46.030
are receptive and open to what you are trying

00:47:46.030 --> 00:47:47.590
to do in their life and what you are trying to

00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:49.469
reveal to them. I pray, Heavenly Father, that

00:47:49.469 --> 00:47:51.610
there is a conviction but not a condemnation

00:47:51.610 --> 00:47:55.119
when it comes to rejecting. your answered prayers

00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.079
i pray heavenly father that people welcome you

00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.699
and receive your words i pray heavenly father

00:48:00.699 --> 00:48:05.639
that the people who are dealing with the people

00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:10.320
who are currently being affected by others in

00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:13.320
their lives that are not hearing you and not

00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:14.900
listening to your answered prayers that they

00:48:14.900 --> 00:48:17.699
handle those people well and that they handle

00:48:17.699 --> 00:48:20.079
those people correctly i pray that they seek

00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.599
you for guidance and that they seek you for deliverance

00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.500
and that they submit and they obey to what you

00:48:25.500 --> 00:48:27.860
are calling them to do Heavenly Father. I pray

00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:30.199
that they have a peace that surpasses all understanding

00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.260
and the boldness of what you are calling them

00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:35.780
to. I pray Heavenly Father that each of the people

00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:37.739
listening to this podcast today know that they

00:48:37.739 --> 00:48:41.360
are loved by you and that they have private moments

00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.679
where they can just feel your love, and they

00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.940
can feel your embrace. I pray, Heavenly Father,

00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.800
that they hear you more clearly than they ever

00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.340
have before, and I pray, Heavenly Father, that

00:48:49.340 --> 00:48:51.000
they have strengthening in their discernment.

00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:54.219
I pray, Lord Jesus, that you bring in voices

00:48:54.219 --> 00:48:56.639
that are more Christ -like. I pray, Heavenly

00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.059
Father, that you really start to work on their

00:48:59.059 --> 00:49:01.039
surroundings, their environment, and their communities.

00:49:01.420 --> 00:49:04.519
Remove the people, Lord Jesus, in their lives

00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.280
that are not leading them towards you and are

00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.139
leading them away from you. Remove the voices.

00:49:10.460 --> 00:49:12.699
That are keeping them comfortable in their sin

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:14.400
that are affirming their sin. I pray Heavenly

00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:18.579
Father that you bring in more voices That lead

00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:21.099
them closer to you and lead them away from their

00:49:21.099 --> 00:49:23.400
sin I pray Heavenly Father that they feel a conviction

00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.719
To step away from these people and from these

00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.400
environments that are leading the mystery and

00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.679
leading them away that they feel a conviction

00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.960
To seek you more and to seek your presence in

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Jesus name. I pray amen Thank y 'all so much

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