WEBVTT 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:11.119 Welcome to her comeback. I'm so glad you're back 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:14.339 with me. This is where 50 isn't your finish line. 00:00:14.460 --> 00:00:17.420 It is your starting point. The starting point 00:00:17.420 --> 00:00:20.140 of everything you want your life to be. The person 00:00:20.140 --> 00:00:23.410 that you are meant to be. I'm your host, Michelle 00:00:23.410 --> 00:00:27.129 Thompson, and we are proving that your best chapter 00:00:27.129 --> 00:00:30.370 may just be the one you haven't written yet. 00:00:31.109 --> 00:00:34.030 We'll continue each episode featuring honest 00:00:34.030 --> 00:00:36.770 conversation with women who have stopped going 00:00:36.770 --> 00:00:39.369 at it alone and have found their way to fulfillment, 00:00:39.829 --> 00:00:43.149 joy, and purpose in their second act. You'll 00:00:43.149 --> 00:00:45.729 hear about their struggles, their breakthroughs, 00:00:45.729 --> 00:00:48.770 and the practical steps that they took to create 00:00:48.770 --> 00:00:52.500 lives that they actually love. This podcast will 00:00:52.500 --> 00:00:55.140 show you how other women have made their comeback 00:00:55.140 --> 00:01:00.460 and how you can too. Welcome back. Good day, 00:01:00.460 --> 00:01:03.219 everyone. Welcome to her comeback. This is Michelle 00:01:03.219 --> 00:01:07.719 Thompson. I am so happy to have Raven Crawford 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:12.040 with me today all the way from San Diego, California 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.299 and Just in the little bit of time that I've 00:01:14.299 --> 00:01:17.099 been talking to Randy, I just love her spirit 00:01:17.099 --> 00:01:20.099 and energy. And she's just a real firehouse. 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.599 Randy, tell our audience a little bit more about 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:24.799 yourself. I would love to. And first of all, 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:26.459 thank you for having me today. This is going 00:01:26.459 --> 00:01:29.780 to be really fun. I really appreciate you. Thank 00:01:29.780 --> 00:01:33.079 you. Thanks for coming on. Absolutely. So I do. 00:01:33.219 --> 00:01:35.239 I live in San Diego. I'm married and I have two 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:39.819 children, ages 23 and 25. And I used to be an 00:01:39.819 --> 00:01:42.000 entrepreneur. I was the co -founder of a public 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.060 health care company for years. And when that 00:01:45.060 --> 00:01:47.099 all ended, and that's a whole nother podcast, 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:48.500 Michelle, so we're not gonna talk about that 00:01:48.500 --> 00:01:51.159 today, but when that all ended, I was a stay 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:53.939 -at -home mom for many years. And I always wanted 00:01:53.939 --> 00:01:56.319 to keep my toe in something, because I just have 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.719 that, I do have that kind of energy. And so I 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.140 was a writer. I wrote for the local papers. I 00:02:01.140 --> 00:02:03.519 always did stuff that revolved around moms and 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.299 parenting. But when my kids were old enough that 00:02:06.299 --> 00:02:08.259 I could see the writing on the wall, one was 00:02:08.259 --> 00:02:11.759 going to college, one was in high school, I was 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.599 like, okay, now I really need to do something 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.479 more than just writing a local column. And I 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:21.319 did take a chance on, my husband said, go find 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.819 something fun to do, find something fun. So I 00:02:23.819 --> 00:02:26.620 found myself doing retail, which, first of all, 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:28.479 I've never been a shopper. So let's just start 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.379 with that. Worst shopper ever. But I always thought 00:02:31.379 --> 00:02:34.009 it looked really fun. And I just wanted to get 00:02:34.009 --> 00:02:36.270 myself back in the game, whatever that looked 00:02:36.270 --> 00:02:39.370 like. And we'll get more into detail in this, 00:02:39.569 --> 00:02:43.110 obviously, but that then led to me, again, being 00:02:43.110 --> 00:02:45.710 around women, which our public health care company 00:02:45.710 --> 00:02:48.590 was for women. My article was for women. Now 00:02:48.590 --> 00:02:51.090 I'm working in retail with women. So my pattern 00:02:51.090 --> 00:02:55.770 has always been women. And I found myself really 00:02:55.770 --> 00:02:58.090 helping a lot of the young girls, quite frankly, 00:02:58.270 --> 00:03:00.810 that I worked with. And everybody would talk 00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:04.449 to me about coaching. And at the time, Michelle, 00:03:04.710 --> 00:03:06.689 I always thought coaching sounded very clinical. 00:03:07.009 --> 00:03:09.590 Oh, somebody needs a coach. And so you feel like 00:03:09.590 --> 00:03:11.530 they're in kind of not like the white coat like 00:03:11.530 --> 00:03:13.449 a doctor, but I know something that you don't. 00:03:13.449 --> 00:03:16.509 And I know that I don't know anything. So I never 00:03:16.509 --> 00:03:20.169 really took to it until COVID happened. And I 00:03:20.169 --> 00:03:23.030 started to see a very different behavior from 00:03:23.030 --> 00:03:24.930 a lot of people. And I thought I'm going to get 00:03:24.930 --> 00:03:26.909 in this game because I think I know it and I 00:03:26.909 --> 00:03:29.409 know people. I know menopausal women very well. 00:03:30.060 --> 00:03:33.300 And through a series of events, I became certified 00:03:33.300 --> 00:03:36.400 through Jay Shetty, because I love his philosophy. 00:03:36.580 --> 00:03:39.960 I absolutely clung to it. It was exactly how 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:43.520 I was raised. And I put my whole heart and soul 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:47.280 into that and became a coach. And I thought I 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.460 would be coaching women that basically were in 00:03:49.460 --> 00:03:51.699 their midlife transition. But a lot of these 00:03:51.699 --> 00:03:54.259 women called me to coach their daughters. And 00:03:54.259 --> 00:03:57.500 that was a big, fat pivot. But I started doing 00:03:57.500 --> 00:04:00.000 that. But then I started giving talks at the 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.620 same time and one thing led to another. And now 00:04:02.620 --> 00:04:04.879 what I do is I coach the young girls that are 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.379 basically high school or college age. And I work 00:04:07.379 --> 00:04:09.879 with their moms at the same time because I believe 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.039 they go hand in hand and you can ask anything 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.599 you want from them. But that's really what I 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.360 do is I help a lot of these young women navigate 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.779 how to build confidence in today's very competitive 00:04:21.779 --> 00:04:24.769 and performative environment. And I work with 00:04:24.769 --> 00:04:28.069 their moms on really taking a step back and finding 00:04:28.069 --> 00:04:30.550 who they are and living their lives instead of 00:04:30.550 --> 00:04:32.430 trying to control everything in their daughter's 00:04:32.430 --> 00:04:35.430 lives. Right. That sounds amazing. I'd like to 00:04:35.430 --> 00:04:38.189 talk a little bit more about your own personal 00:04:38.189 --> 00:04:42.089 journey. You mentioned in your story that you 00:04:42.089 --> 00:04:44.350 were diagnosed with a panic disorder at just 00:04:44.350 --> 00:04:47.029 six years old, even before it had a name. How 00:04:47.029 --> 00:04:51.009 did growing up with these dizzy spells shape 00:04:51.009 --> 00:04:54.980 the woman that you are today? So it's everything. 00:04:55.259 --> 00:04:57.980 Because when I grew up and I was younger, I was 00:04:57.980 --> 00:05:00.519 a tomboy, I was competitive, I did all this stuff. 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.680 But I always had these dizzy attacks that I could 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.839 never explain. And I always felt different. Something 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.579 was off in my brain, and it's like one of those, 00:05:09.779 --> 00:05:12.100 if you know, you know. And if you don't, you 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:14.300 don't, right? I'm married to a husband with absolutely 00:05:14.300 --> 00:05:17.360 zero mental health issues. So Annie has a great 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.000 sense of direction. Two things that I am completely 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.709 opposite on. So... But he now understands me. 00:05:22.910 --> 00:05:25.170 So growing up, I just kind of, I had a lot of 00:05:25.170 --> 00:05:27.329 trouble with this and there was a lot of stuff 00:05:27.329 --> 00:05:29.209 that I really couldn't do. And I went to the 00:05:29.209 --> 00:05:31.490 Mayo Clinic. I went everywhere around the country 00:05:31.490 --> 00:05:35.029 and nobody could quote unquote diagnose me. They 00:05:35.029 --> 00:05:37.730 just said that there are other people like you. 00:05:38.050 --> 00:05:40.230 And that did not really help me because I was 00:05:40.230 --> 00:05:42.589 so young. I didn't want to go meeting people 00:05:42.589 --> 00:05:44.290 in their twenties and thirties and forties that 00:05:44.290 --> 00:05:46.750 had issues. I did. No, thank you. I'm a child. 00:05:47.290 --> 00:05:49.209 And it really wasn't Michelle until I was in 00:05:49.209 --> 00:05:52.360 my twenties. And honestly, the internet came 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.019 out. Then I was on the internet, which was so 00:05:55.019 --> 00:05:57.879 crazy, reading a story, and I called my dad. 00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.620 And I'll never forget calling him and saying, 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.759 dad, oh my god, what I have is panic disorder. 00:06:02.939 --> 00:06:06.079 That's what it is. And so there were no tools. 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.259 Right now, it's so fabulous, because you can 00:06:08.259 --> 00:06:10.319 get on TikTok or Instagram or any of these sites. 00:06:10.620 --> 00:06:13.240 And if you have any of these mental health issues, 00:06:13.579 --> 00:06:17.519 they have all these doctors and coaches and therapists 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:20.759 that give you all these coping strategies. for 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.319 panic disorder and what to do when you start 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.120 to have a panic attack. But because we didn't 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.139 know what I was having was a quote unquote panic 00:06:28.139 --> 00:06:30.360 attack, there was no coping skills. There was 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.040 no strategies. There was just medication. And 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.379 for a very brief time, I tried medication, but 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:40.000 at a very young age and I was very small, I'm 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.839 still pretty small, a medication just zombied 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.360 me out. And they were like, no, we're not gonna 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.879 medicate me. So it shaped me because I knew that 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.759 somehow, so I was very involved with psychology 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.579 and that was one of my minors. I was economic 00:06:55.579 --> 00:06:58.879 psychology, all that. I wanted to do something 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.939 with people and with behavior. I knew I didn't 00:07:01.939 --> 00:07:03.980 want to be a doctor that was way too much biology 00:07:03.980 --> 00:07:06.660 for me, but I wanted to help people. Because 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:08.980 again, if you know, you know. And it's like, 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.480 how do you help somebody? And so to me, interestingly, 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.399 working with women and menopause and hormones 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.290 and all of that, It's just another area of behavior 00:07:18.290 --> 00:07:21.410 that so many people do not understand. And that 00:07:21.410 --> 00:07:24.949 was kind of my start in my first working life 00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:27.689 was this company helping women. When everyone 00:07:27.689 --> 00:07:29.790 was telling them, they're crazy. When I was involved 00:07:29.790 --> 00:07:32.209 in women and menopause, again, it's not like 00:07:32.209 --> 00:07:35.310 it was today or is today where it's openly talked 00:07:35.310 --> 00:07:37.769 about. People know a lot more about hormones. 00:07:38.170 --> 00:07:40.310 The decision on hormones and whether or not it 00:07:40.310 --> 00:07:42.670 can impact you negatively has just been reversed 00:07:42.670 --> 00:07:45.529 after 22 years. So there's a lot to talk about 00:07:45.529 --> 00:07:47.610 there, but we don't have to. But my point being, 00:07:48.089 --> 00:07:50.490 at the time, if you went into a doctor and said, 00:07:50.649 --> 00:07:53.269 I'm having, I feel I'm crazy, I'm very emotional, 00:07:53.389 --> 00:07:55.610 I'm yelling at my husband, blah, blah, blah. 00:07:55.689 --> 00:07:57.550 The doctors were like, but it's a one size fits 00:07:57.550 --> 00:07:59.829 all, get on this HRT and everything is going 00:07:59.829 --> 00:08:01.689 to be fixed. And nobody knew what was wrong. 00:08:02.029 --> 00:08:04.649 So all of these things have been a pattern in 00:08:04.649 --> 00:08:07.790 my life to say it is not a one size fits all 00:08:07.790 --> 00:08:10.509 approach for women, for hormones, for any of 00:08:10.509 --> 00:08:12.949 it. We are all individuals and we are all going 00:08:12.949 --> 00:08:15.029 through something. And surely there's got to 00:08:15.029 --> 00:08:17.209 be a better way to help. And so for me, that's 00:08:17.209 --> 00:08:19.889 how I ended up coaching because I'm going to 00:08:19.889 --> 00:08:22.509 be a cheerleader through it. I'm not your doctor. 00:08:22.569 --> 00:08:25.649 I'm not. I don't pretend to be, but I'm going 00:08:25.649 --> 00:08:27.350 to help you understand what's going on and I'm 00:08:27.350 --> 00:08:30.350 going to help you get through it. That's awesome. 00:08:30.509 --> 00:08:34.350 Great. Now you describe living in a self -imposed 00:08:34.350 --> 00:08:36.769 comfort zone for decades. And I know I talk about 00:08:36.769 --> 00:08:38.730 this in my coaching too, getting out of that 00:08:38.730 --> 00:08:42.149 comfort zone. So what was the moment at 50 that 00:08:42.149 --> 00:08:45.769 made you realize Comfortable wasn't working. 00:08:46.909 --> 00:08:49.509 Comfortable wasn't working because I didn't have 00:08:49.509 --> 00:08:52.250 to do anything with my kids. I had already lived 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:55.330 my life, done my company. Now for the people 00:08:55.330 --> 00:08:56.990 that are like, oh, that's nice of you that your 00:08:56.990 --> 00:08:59.330 husband said go do something fun. Well, I had 00:08:59.330 --> 00:09:01.669 contributed significantly my entire life. I've 00:09:01.669 --> 00:09:04.009 never not worked. So now I was at a point in 00:09:04.009 --> 00:09:05.809 my life where I didn't have to go do anything. 00:09:06.149 --> 00:09:09.090 If I could say my kids are off now, one's in 00:09:09.090 --> 00:09:11.230 college, one's about to go to college. Now I 00:09:11.230 --> 00:09:13.090 can just start to play golf or whatever. Well, 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:15.210 I've never had any interest in that. People said, 00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:17.210 do you want to go take a walk? No, I have no 00:09:17.210 --> 00:09:18.889 interest in that. Do you want to go get lunch? 00:09:19.169 --> 00:09:21.350 No, I have no interest in that. Maybe I'll go 00:09:21.350 --> 00:09:23.289 get a cup of coffee with you, because I love 00:09:23.289 --> 00:09:26.330 coffee. But that's asking your outfit. That's 00:09:26.330 --> 00:09:29.629 none. Yeah. So I realized I just, I don't want 00:09:29.629 --> 00:09:32.549 to just be sitting here at this part of my life 00:09:32.549 --> 00:09:35.809 now doing nothing because my kids, and I was 00:09:35.809 --> 00:09:38.889 never that mom that totally inserted myself. 00:09:39.149 --> 00:09:42.149 in my kids' lives. Now, yes, they were my whole 00:09:42.149 --> 00:09:44.450 life. I am absolutely going to be honest about 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:46.610 that. They had become the center of it when I 00:09:46.610 --> 00:09:49.750 stopped working out of the office. But I was 00:09:49.750 --> 00:09:51.750 never going to just sit back and be like, OK, 00:09:51.850 --> 00:09:54.649 well, now I'll just kind of help them make their 00:09:54.649 --> 00:09:58.149 dorm room beautiful, and help with this and that. 00:09:58.210 --> 00:10:00.269 In fact, my daughter just pointed out the other 00:10:00.269 --> 00:10:02.409 day that I never went back and even moved her. 00:10:02.539 --> 00:10:05.120 when she moved into college. Now she's living 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.059 in another city. I didn't even move her into 00:10:07.059 --> 00:10:09.139 her apartment. I very much believe that my kids 00:10:09.139 --> 00:10:11.720 need to do things on their own. So comfortable 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:13.419 could have been for me doing whatever I wanted. 00:10:13.460 --> 00:10:15.919 And for me, it meant getting out of the house 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:17.899 and figuring out what the heck I'm going to do 00:10:17.899 --> 00:10:20.000 with this part of my life. Good. Good for you. 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:23.700 So another thing you talk about is having that 00:10:23.700 --> 00:10:26.879 experience with some internal adversity, your 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.580 brain working against you. I can certainly identify 00:10:29.580 --> 00:10:32.460 with that as well. How do you feel that that 00:10:32.460 --> 00:10:36.000 ultimately has become your greatest asset as 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.720 a life coach? Because I understand it. Because 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.860 I understand just this morning when I was texting 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:44.399 back and forth with a client, right? Because 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.919 she can't get out of her head about certain things. 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.820 And because I understand that so well, I know 00:10:51.820 --> 00:10:56.379 how our brain can be wired to, and I'm not saying 00:10:56.379 --> 00:10:58.460 I'm wired this way because we're all wired differently, 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.110 but I understand the ruminating. I understand 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:04.230 the spiraling. And so what I really help them 00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:07.889 with is giving them tools to disrupt that pattern. 00:11:08.269 --> 00:11:10.730 I love, and this was explained to me many, many, 00:11:10.750 --> 00:11:14.090 many years ago, and now it's really become very, 00:11:14.090 --> 00:11:16.730 very clear. If you look at our brain, right? 00:11:17.049 --> 00:11:19.269 It's almost, I tell them, my clients, it's like 00:11:19.269 --> 00:11:22.009 we have all these highways in our brains, right? 00:11:22.389 --> 00:11:24.470 And the highway could just keep taking us back 00:11:24.470 --> 00:11:27.779 to the same place. over and over and over again. 00:11:27.940 --> 00:11:30.820 And the only way we're gonna stop going to that 00:11:30.820 --> 00:11:33.720 place of negativity and find the better place 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.259 is when we consciously make decisions to create 00:11:38.259 --> 00:11:41.100 that new highway. And until we can create that 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:43.799 new highway by asking ourselves certain questions, 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.519 noticing our behavior, disrupting our behavior, 00:11:46.820 --> 00:11:48.980 we're never gonna be able to do that. And it's 00:11:48.980 --> 00:11:51.879 really not that hard to do. But the irony is 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:53.620 that you get people, and they love to get in 00:11:53.620 --> 00:11:55.740 this thought pattern and say, well, this always 00:11:55.740 --> 00:11:58.139 happens to me. This is the story of my life. 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.120 And I'm like, well, yeah, if you keep telling 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.539 yourself that, then it is the story of your life. 00:12:02.740 --> 00:12:05.100 And it's not going to change until you make the 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.820 change. And so so much of this coaching stuff 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:12.580 that we do sounds and is so corny, but it really, 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.600 really works. And that's what makes me so crazy. 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.840 Yes, we do have to have conversations with ourselves. 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.960 Yes, we do have to disrupt these. My brain was 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:25.539 working against me. And until I learned, for 00:12:25.539 --> 00:12:29.399 me, to make that very specific, I was like, oh 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.519 my god, I'm going to live the rest of my life 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.320 in constant fear of having these panic attacks. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:38.120 And it's miserable. If people have panic disorder, 00:12:38.179 --> 00:12:40.279 it's miserable. It's scary. It's frightening. 00:12:40.779 --> 00:12:43.720 Because the worst part is the fear of when is 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.200 the next panic attack going to happen. It's not. 00:12:46.460 --> 00:12:48.919 of the actual panic attack, but it's like, what 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:50.779 if I'm giving a talk and I have a panic attack? 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.159 What if I'm on with a client and I have a panic 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:56.360 attack? What if I'm driving my car? And so what 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.659 you learn is tools so that if I live my life 00:12:59.659 --> 00:13:01.700 in that fear, that is never gonna get better. 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.700 What I had to do is learn tools to stop that 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:07.899 pattern, stop living in that fear and start saying, 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:11.100 no, no, I own it. I own my behavior. Look at 00:13:11.100 --> 00:13:13.399 a panic attack as it's just purely excitement. 00:13:13.610 --> 00:13:16.129 It's the same emotion. It's the same thing. So 00:13:16.129 --> 00:13:18.389 rather than being afraid of it, be excited about 00:13:18.389 --> 00:13:20.330 it. I don't care. Give it a name. Talk to it. 00:13:20.549 --> 00:13:23.149 Whatever you got to do. But that's how I learned 00:13:23.149 --> 00:13:25.990 to take what was once a very huge negative in 00:13:25.990 --> 00:13:29.190 my life when I was younger and up until really 00:13:29.190 --> 00:13:32.190 my 20s and change it into something positive 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:36.029 and help my clients. There's a couple of comeback 00:13:36.029 --> 00:13:38.750 moments you talk about in your experience. And 00:13:38.750 --> 00:13:40.830 there was one that you mentioned coming into 00:13:40.830 --> 00:13:44.470 anthropology with zero retail experience and 00:13:44.470 --> 00:13:46.230 getting a job. I mean, that was pretty bold. 00:13:46.350 --> 00:13:49.909 So what gave you the courage to just go do that? 00:13:50.629 --> 00:13:52.590 Ignorance is bliss. I'm just going to say that. 00:13:52.909 --> 00:13:55.950 You don't know, you don't know. And I'll be really 00:13:55.950 --> 00:13:58.250 honest with you. The first day I walked in there 00:13:58.250 --> 00:14:01.570 and every girl that works there is young. She's 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:05.960 beautiful. She has perfect eyesight. And I walk 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.220 in there, OK, and I'm feeling I don't know how 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:11.460 to dress. I'm blind as a bat. And they tell us, 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.220 it's really a funny story. And he's like, well, 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:16.059 then just don't go back. And I'll never forget 00:14:16.059 --> 00:14:18.639 that. I was like, don't go back. Oh, no, no, 00:14:18.700 --> 00:14:22.419 no. I'm going back. So I went. And here's what 00:14:22.419 --> 00:14:24.539 I learned. And this is what I want everybody 00:14:24.539 --> 00:14:27.740 to know, because it's so huge. Brings different 00:14:27.740 --> 00:14:30.960 things to the table. What I bring is the ability. 00:14:31.179 --> 00:14:33.200 to walk up to any person that walks into that 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.600 store and talk to them and make them smile and 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.080 get them comfortable. And before I knew it, I 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:41.059 was made a stylist because that is what I can 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:53.419 do. What I cannot do is work behind. So if I 00:14:53.419 --> 00:14:56.200 had followed my very first experience, I would 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:58.389 have never gone back. But you got to give things 00:14:58.389 --> 00:15:01.389 a chance and you got to just try it and see it 00:15:01.389 --> 00:15:05.250 through before you just give up and quit. That's 00:15:05.250 --> 00:15:07.610 awesome. I love that story. Another thing, and 00:15:07.610 --> 00:15:09.590 you alluded to this a little bit earlier about 00:15:09.590 --> 00:15:12.570 the pandemic, you said that that clearly became 00:15:12.570 --> 00:15:16.809 a pivot point for you. So how did watching women 00:15:16.809 --> 00:15:21.850 emerge from isolation, struggling, push you forward 00:15:21.850 --> 00:15:25.759 in becoming a certified life coach? because people 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:29.500 are really, really terribly mean after COVID. 00:15:30.179 --> 00:15:33.820 So, opposite to what I thought, I thought people 00:15:33.820 --> 00:15:36.639 would come back to the store and be very excited 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:38.559 to be back out in the world. You're back out 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.740 in the Wild West. Let's go. Let's party. Let's 00:15:40.740 --> 00:15:45.620 shop. And I was sorely mistaken. People, they 00:15:45.620 --> 00:15:49.139 forgot how to treat people. They were so rude 00:15:49.139 --> 00:15:53.460 and so angry and so salty and... I mean, not 00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:56.480 as much to me as to the younger girls. I mean, 00:15:56.580 --> 00:15:59.379 I just remember it so vividly. We'd have to run 00:15:59.379 --> 00:16:01.620 to the back for five minutes and just cry. And 00:16:01.620 --> 00:16:04.320 this was, again, years ago. But I remember thinking, 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.519 how dare you? What? How dare you? How to treat 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.419 people. And then they would look at me and they 00:16:09.419 --> 00:16:11.159 would be perfectly nice because they were like, 00:16:11.340 --> 00:16:13.379 you're my age. And I would look at them like, 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:15.720 no, no, we're not doing that. That is not OK 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.100 with me. And so that's why. And again, remember. 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.320 My business was menopause for years and years 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.960 and years. So I understand the confluence of 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.259 your hormones, and your kids growing up, and 00:16:29.259 --> 00:16:32.120 your aging parents, and the way we feel about 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.980 ourselves, and the way our husbands get better 00:16:33.980 --> 00:16:37.320 with age. I understand all of that. Now mix that 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.360 in with coming back to the world after being 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:43.440 in your homes for some women months, for some 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.100 women a year, and you had really angry women, 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:50.610 and I was horrified. by their behavior. And that's 00:16:50.610 --> 00:16:53.110 when I was like, I'm becoming a coach. And not 00:16:53.110 --> 00:16:55.889 to school anybody at all. Just because, again, 00:16:55.929 --> 00:16:58.429 when I'm at work, I love to make women feel good. 00:16:58.690 --> 00:17:01.470 I love to make women laugh. And I just thought 00:17:01.470 --> 00:17:04.549 to myself, they just need to figure out who they 00:17:04.549 --> 00:17:07.569 are again. And I was very excited about hanging 00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:10.130 my shingle and working with them. Because I'm 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:13.230 like, I'm your age. I get you. I really do. But 00:17:13.230 --> 00:17:16.029 we got to change the narrative. And that's why 00:17:16.029 --> 00:17:18.819 it was very surprising when I got calls. from 00:17:18.819 --> 00:17:21.619 them to work with their daughters, because I'm 00:17:21.619 --> 00:17:23.700 thinking you're the one that needs to help. I 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:25.059 mean, I don't know what your daughters are like, 00:17:25.220 --> 00:17:27.839 but you look really nasty right now. And that 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.920 was really bizarre for me at the time. And it's 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.440 an interesting dynamic you talk about there. 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.660 So how do you balance coaching younger women, 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.099 whether they're teens or college students or 00:17:41.099 --> 00:17:44.950 whatever? with women who are in mid -life? Is 00:17:44.950 --> 00:17:47.990 their core struggle the same? Or how is that 00:17:47.990 --> 00:17:50.269 different? How do you balance that? No, their 00:17:50.269 --> 00:17:52.950 struggles are completely different. The mom will 00:17:52.950 --> 00:17:55.789 always call me to work with her daughter. And 00:17:55.789 --> 00:17:58.569 the mom has one theory about why her daughter 00:17:58.569 --> 00:18:00.650 needs to work with a coach. And then I'll get 00:18:00.650 --> 00:18:02.470 on, and I will never just take on a client until 00:18:02.470 --> 00:18:05.710 she talks to me over Zoom and she, the girl wants 00:18:05.710 --> 00:18:07.990 to work with me. And if she does, excellent. 00:18:08.069 --> 00:18:09.930 And if she doesn't, excellent. You know what 00:18:09.930 --> 00:18:12.529 I mean? There has to be chemistry. But the mom 00:18:12.529 --> 00:18:15.150 has a completely different idea of why her daughter 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:17.170 wants to work with me. So then I start working 00:18:17.170 --> 00:18:20.349 with her daughter and their struggles are usually, 00:18:20.930 --> 00:18:23.089 they're all obviously different, but the same. 00:18:23.289 --> 00:18:27.809 And they all generally revolve around, listen, 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:31.210 comparison. It's very, very hard, right? I mean, 00:18:31.509 --> 00:18:33.230 these kids are dealing with so much with this 00:18:33.230 --> 00:18:35.190 social media and this digital world. And while 00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:37.829 that might sound cliche, that is just a fact. 00:18:38.029 --> 00:18:40.309 But as I was telling this recently to somebody 00:18:40.309 --> 00:18:44.289 that I was working with, who's my age, obviously, 00:18:44.630 --> 00:18:47.269 women our age deal with this too, but they don't 00:18:47.269 --> 00:18:49.490 want to admit it. It's not just young people 00:18:49.490 --> 00:18:53.210 who deal with perfectionism and comparison because 00:18:53.210 --> 00:18:56.450 of social media. However, when I work with a 00:18:56.450 --> 00:18:59.450 woman that is, let's just say, in her 40s, 50s, 00:18:59.569 --> 00:19:02.910 early 60s, generally speaking, it's about learning 00:19:02.910 --> 00:19:05.730 to take a step back out of her daughter or her 00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:08.269 kid's lives. and learning that this chapter is 00:19:08.269 --> 00:19:11.029 now for her, that she is there to support her 00:19:11.029 --> 00:19:15.170 daughter wholeheartedly, or her kids wholeheartedly, 00:19:15.390 --> 00:19:18.930 but that she cannot possibly spend her entire 00:19:18.930 --> 00:19:22.930 day micromanaging every choice that her child 00:19:22.930 --> 00:19:25.190 makes, because they are going to do it differently 00:19:25.190 --> 00:19:27.769 than we do it, and they are not an extension 00:19:27.769 --> 00:19:30.829 of us. So really, with the younger generation, 00:19:30.849 --> 00:19:33.349 it's about social media, and with the older generation, 00:19:33.369 --> 00:19:36.230 it's about... we have to now start living our 00:19:36.230 --> 00:19:38.910 lives. And it does not mean cut your kids off. 00:19:38.950 --> 00:19:41.630 It just means give them some breathing room. 00:19:42.549 --> 00:19:46.029 Why do you think that moms setting boundaries, 00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:49.349 I think is what you're talking about here, making 00:19:49.349 --> 00:19:52.390 that transition, having these boundaries from 00:19:52.390 --> 00:19:55.970 being the parent to really coming in in a new 00:19:55.970 --> 00:19:59.829 way, in a new role, why is that so emotionally 00:19:59.829 --> 00:20:03.329 loaded for women? Because that's been our identity. 00:20:03.579 --> 00:20:06.779 That is our identity. It is tied into being a 00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:09.440 mom. I mean, look at moms today. They feel like 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.880 if their child is doing well, they walk around 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:13.680 like a proud peacock. They're the one that got 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:15.799 the D1 offer. They're the one that got their 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:17.660 kid into an Ivy League school. It's all because 00:20:17.660 --> 00:20:20.079 of them. If their child is a screw up and the 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.500 mom sees the struggle, the mom will jump in and 00:20:22.500 --> 00:20:24.740 try and fix it. And it's like, lady, you have 00:20:24.740 --> 00:20:27.839 to take a step back and let them. So now is really 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.839 because the kid's coping skill is getting online 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.119 and scrolling. And that is not helping anybody. 00:20:33.849 --> 00:20:37.650 Yeah. And you've mentioned this too, that the 00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:39.910 whole thing with online and the whole online 00:20:39.910 --> 00:20:43.589 culture, what did you think is the most damaging 00:20:43.589 --> 00:20:46.730 belief that you see women carry because of what 00:20:46.730 --> 00:20:49.490 they see online? What are you asking for that? 00:20:49.589 --> 00:20:51.369 What is the most damaging belief for a 20 -year 00:20:51.369 --> 00:20:53.609 -old? Well, for better, from the mom's perspective 00:20:53.609 --> 00:20:56.349 and from the daughter's. So that would be the 00:20:56.349 --> 00:20:58.089 same thing. And that would be that they're not 00:20:58.089 --> 00:21:00.430 enough. Nobody ever feels like they're enough. 00:21:00.450 --> 00:21:02.269 They're not good enough. They're not doing enough. 00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:04.519 They don't have the right clothes. They're not 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:06.140 with the right friend group. They're not at the 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:07.859 right school. They don't have the right makeup. 00:21:08.579 --> 00:21:12.799 The not being enough is the core central theme 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:17.579 around social media. And I really believe that 00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:20.940 this impacts not just our kids. The reason it's 00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:23.880 so important to arrest this problem while our 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:25.980 kids are young is because their brains are still 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:28.890 developing. And so there they are online. scrolling, 00:21:28.990 --> 00:21:30.970 scrolling, scrolling, trying to get their values 00:21:30.970 --> 00:21:33.490 from strangers, from influencers, from people 00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:35.769 that don't even matter. And I'm not putting the 00:21:35.769 --> 00:21:38.549 influencers down. You do you. That's great for 00:21:38.549 --> 00:21:40.710 you. But that doesn't mean it's going to work 00:21:40.710 --> 00:21:43.509 for some kid who doesn't even care about name 00:21:43.509 --> 00:21:45.990 brands or certain things. But that's how they're 00:21:45.990 --> 00:21:49.230 being raised. And so you take a mom. A mom has 00:21:49.230 --> 00:21:51.509 told me that she struggles greatly with Pinterest. 00:21:51.869 --> 00:21:54.130 Now, Pinterest has never been a thing for someone 00:21:54.130 --> 00:21:57.220 my age. But I guess younger moms? are really 00:21:57.220 --> 00:21:59.460 into it. And so they feel like if they don't 00:21:59.460 --> 00:22:02.500 have the Pinterest perfect birthday party or 00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:05.900 the Pinterest perfect home or set up or dishes 00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:08.539 or whatever it is that they're not enough. They're 00:22:08.539 --> 00:22:10.720 not doing enough. They're not good enough. And 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:14.000 so it's that I'm not enough culture with social 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.619 media. Wow. Yeah, I think that's very insightful. 00:22:17.619 --> 00:22:20.279 And I think there's so many of us even just looking 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:23.619 at my own experience trying to for whatever reason, 00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:26.200 thinking those things algorithm feeds off of 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.839 not just the things that we like, but how long 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:31.039 our eyes are viewing that. So if we're looking 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.640 at a video for more than two seconds, seven seconds, 00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:36.440 10 seconds, 30 seconds, the algorithm picks up, 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.079 oh, she's interested in that. So if we're looking 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.740 at something that makes us feel yucky about ourselves, 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.140 oh, we can't take our eyes off of it. It's gonna 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:47.380 keep feeding us that same content. And that's 00:22:47.380 --> 00:22:50.599 where we get into this loop of doom and gloom. 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.079 Let me just say this. I mean, it's gotten so... 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.950 I'm so grateful. that my kids are 23 and 25 because 00:22:56.950 --> 00:22:58.910 you have kids today that will never know anything 00:22:58.910 --> 00:23:01.049 except the digital world. That's all they know. 00:23:01.309 --> 00:23:03.349 So we can't blame them. But as their parent, 00:23:03.769 --> 00:23:05.809 we can be their parent now that we know better. 00:23:06.049 --> 00:23:08.630 We know. I mean, I've known. I'm sure you've 00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:11.130 known for years and years and years. Obviously, 00:23:11.349 --> 00:23:14.130 right? Obviously social media is bad for all 00:23:14.130 --> 00:23:16.529 of us and for our mental health. However, now 00:23:16.529 --> 00:23:19.230 we have so many statistics to back this up. What 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:22.210 more do parents need? to tell them, listen, fine, 00:23:22.349 --> 00:23:24.269 give your kid the phone, iPad, whatever, but 00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:26.009 you've got to put restrictions on it. That's 00:23:26.009 --> 00:23:30.150 your job as a parent. And I can be interesting. 00:23:30.930 --> 00:23:33.430 If you are on a cell phone a lot, at the end 00:23:33.430 --> 00:23:35.450 of each week you get this report. It just buzzes 00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:37.549 on your phone. I think there's a lot of denial 00:23:37.549 --> 00:23:40.730 about how much all of us spend on our phones. 00:23:41.150 --> 00:23:43.009 So I think the first thing is taking ownership 00:23:43.009 --> 00:23:44.970 and accountability for how much we are on it, 00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:47.170 setting limits for how long we're going to be 00:23:47.170 --> 00:23:50.140 on it, and then when we do... Start to spiral 00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:52.720 and when we do start to compare ourselves to 00:23:52.720 --> 00:24:03.819 our friends Helping myself today or my or is 00:24:03.819 --> 00:24:06.259 that feeding the good that I want today? Am I 00:24:06.259 --> 00:24:08.519 bettering myself today by that? Because I think 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.799 the answer we know it's gonna be no and then 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.720 we're gonna have to ask ourselves What do I want 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.319 to do today? That's gonna make me just a little 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.079 bit better And the minute we make that mind shift, 00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:21.299 that mindset shift, is the minute that we disrupt 00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.960 that junk of going down that rabbit hole and 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.220 we start to say, okay, yeah, no, that's not helping 00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:28.779 me. Now, for me, I'll give you an example. I 00:24:28.779 --> 00:24:30.779 told you before we started this talk, I have 00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:33.220 to build a platform, so I'm on social media a 00:24:33.220 --> 00:24:35.579 lot. I'm trying to learn it, understand it, post 00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:38.539 a lot. And I don't enjoy it though, and it's 00:24:38.539 --> 00:24:41.079 funny because sometimes I get caught in the loop 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.920 at night before bed, I'm looking at animals. 00:24:43.130 --> 00:24:45.009 Right now, I'm looking at the story, the seven 00:24:45.009 --> 00:24:47.069 dogs that saved themselves. And I cannot get 00:24:47.069 --> 00:24:49.869 enough of that story. I'm obsessed with it. And 00:24:49.869 --> 00:24:51.849 I'll be on there for 20 minutes. And I'm like, 00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:55.130 oh, wait. This isn't helping me build my platform. 00:24:55.190 --> 00:24:56.769 This isn't helping me build my business. This 00:24:56.769 --> 00:24:59.329 is now too much for my brain. And then I notice 00:24:59.329 --> 00:25:01.509 it, and I just get off my phone right away. So 00:25:01.509 --> 00:25:05.309 you've got to be very cognizant and aware, right? 00:25:05.630 --> 00:25:08.150 And just the minute we notice it, we have to 00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:11.049 stop it. So yeah. Is this helping me? And if 00:25:11.049 --> 00:25:14.650 not, what can I do to be helping me? That's good 00:25:14.650 --> 00:25:17.950 advice there. So for the women that are listening, 00:25:18.250 --> 00:25:19.930 we've talked about some of the things in your 00:25:19.930 --> 00:25:22.869 comeback. What do you want women listening today 00:25:22.869 --> 00:25:26.609 to walk away with to believe about what's possible 00:25:26.609 --> 00:25:29.569 with their comeback? First of all, that anything 00:25:29.569 --> 00:25:32.809 at any age is possible without a doubt. I don't 00:25:32.809 --> 00:25:34.210 care how old you are. I don't care if you've 00:25:34.210 --> 00:25:36.930 never done it before. You have to go for it. 00:25:37.349 --> 00:25:39.049 And the next thing I want them to come away with 00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:41.890 is... You don't have to know what the end goal 00:25:41.890 --> 00:25:45.150 is. Me taking a retail job, I didn't go into 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.869 that saying, my lifelong dream has been retail, 00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:50.430 and I just never knew it. I just knew that I 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:51.869 always saw it in the movies and I always thought 00:25:51.869 --> 00:25:55.789 it was fun, so I tried it. So if you're just 00:25:55.789 --> 00:25:58.470 doing something, if you're motion, if you're 00:25:58.470 --> 00:26:01.710 in motion, it's better than not being in motion. 00:26:01.829 --> 00:26:03.769 It's better than doing nothing. So it doesn't 00:26:03.769 --> 00:26:06.490 matter if what you try is the end game. It doesn't 00:26:06.490 --> 00:26:08.890 matter if you try and you fail. Because guess 00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:11.390 what? We have one life to live. And if we're 00:26:11.390 --> 00:26:13.329 not gonna take the chance, nobody else is gonna 00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:15.730 do that for us. So that's what we have to do. 00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:18.349 And the last thing I'm gonna say is, I know it 00:26:18.349 --> 00:26:21.250 is so hard to let our kids make choices when 00:26:21.250 --> 00:26:23.549 we know that those choices are the worst. And 00:26:23.549 --> 00:26:25.450 we know that they're probably gonna fall down. 00:26:26.349 --> 00:26:28.450 Do everything you can, unless they're gonna hurt 00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:31.789 themselves or harm themselves. Let them experience 00:26:31.789 --> 00:26:34.390 the consequences of their actions so that they 00:26:34.390 --> 00:26:37.329 learn from them. And then you're pulling yourself 00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:40.140 back and you're giving yourself time to now experience 00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:42.960 and try things for yourself so that you can be 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.720 growing while your kid is growing. Great. Now, 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.259 I love that. Very good stuff. Tell us about your 00:26:48.259 --> 00:26:52.539 book. So, one thing I love is playing pickleball. 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.400 If that's gonna give you a curve, I picked it 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.259 up a couple years ago and I became obsessed with 00:26:57.259 --> 00:27:01.299 it. And I've always wanted to write a book about 00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:04.039 parenting and how to take a step back. but I 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.519 never write another me too, it's like blah blah 00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.299 blah dude no one's gonna listen to that no one 00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:10.720 cares but when I started playing pickleball I 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.019 realized that there are so many similarities 00:27:14.019 --> 00:27:17.400 in what I learned on the court and how I think 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.819 that we should be parenting that I have written 00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:22.059 this book called the pickleball parenting playbook 00:27:22.059 --> 00:27:25.019 where I they're all very so I write very self 00:27:25.019 --> 00:27:27.240 -deprecating stories because I make a lot of 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.839 mistakes but I use concepts in pickleball communication 00:27:31.130 --> 00:27:33.190 how important it is to communicate with your 00:27:33.190 --> 00:27:36.450 kids. Dinking, which is all about patience. Position, 00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:38.910 overpower. It's not about overpowering them, 00:27:38.990 --> 00:27:40.470 but it's about hitting the right ball in the 00:27:40.470 --> 00:27:42.809 right spot. It doesn't matter the size of the 00:27:42.809 --> 00:27:44.910 opponent. So I've written this book and right 00:27:44.910 --> 00:27:47.390 now I am in the process of getting this book 00:27:47.390 --> 00:27:50.250 out there and it's gonna probably be a little 00:27:50.250 --> 00:27:53.170 while, but yeah, I hope that when it comes out 00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:56.089 that parents will really just find it an enjoyable, 00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:59.509 non -judgmental way. to look at how to get some 00:27:59.509 --> 00:28:03.549 tools in a fun narrative about how we can start 00:28:03.549 --> 00:28:06.509 living more our lives and have better, more trusting 00:28:06.509 --> 00:28:08.650 and better communication with our kids. Parenting 00:28:08.650 --> 00:28:10.990 can actually be fun. It doesn't just all have 00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:13.769 to be checking boxes and going through the motions 00:28:13.769 --> 00:28:17.549 and all the problems that we're having. Oh, terrific. 00:28:17.569 --> 00:28:19.569 That sounds really good. Well, I will look forward 00:28:19.569 --> 00:28:21.829 to reading that. And maybe you can come back 00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:23.529 and talk some more about it when it's out there 00:28:23.529 --> 00:28:25.609 for people to pick up. That'd be great. I would 00:28:25.609 --> 00:28:28.140 love that. I would love that. How, if people 00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:29.599 that are listening today, they want to reach 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.500 out to you, to connect to you, what's the best 00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:34.200 way for them to do that? I'm so easy. I have 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.059 a website at randycroffordcoaching .com and it's 00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:41.259 Randy with an I, and then I'm on TikTok and Instagram 00:28:41.259 --> 00:28:44.200 at randycroffordcoaching. And so if they wanted 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.940 to connect with me and went to my website, they 00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:47.839 could click home accountally and set up a 30 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.660 minute free zoom call and DM me on any social 00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:55.119 medias. And I am here. Wonderful. Thank you so 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:58.160 much, Randy. I'm so glad that our paths crossed 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.579 and we were able to have some conversation here. 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:02.819 And I look forward to just keeping in touch. 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.680 And I wish you continued success, everything 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.920 that you're doing. Thank you. And thank you so 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.559 much for having me. 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