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Welcome to her comeback. I am your host, Michelle
Thompson. Yeah. So I am a two -time entrepreneur.
This is my third business, but I started my third
business post 50. I know we'll talk about it
today. It's a completely different business.
I know it's a mission -based business, which
I've never done. I've only done, to be quite
honest, like capitalistic ventures. And I'm probably
as uncomfortable as a bunch of you all are in
your businesses or as you think about your businesses.
Even though I've done it, I know the formula.
I know a formula for another business, not this
one. Great. Well, let's talk a little bit about
your journey. You've said you always knew that
you wanted to be an entrepreneur your whole life.
What was the moment or experience that first
ignited that spark when you knew? I think I have
a little different upbringing in the sense that
I'm surrounded by a family of entrepreneurs.
Okay. So my dad, my grandfather, even my brothers,
my cousins, I mean, everyone sort of because
we're immigrants, right, we're super ethnic off
the boat. I think that was what you did in the
old country. That's what everyone did here. So
that was how I was brought up. And what's always
interesting to me, and I will hand it to my lovely
but crotchety dad, that he never, I mean, super
Italian, super traditional, he never treated
me any different as it related to being an entrepreneur
than my brothers. Like, he figured I'd do it,
just like they would. I think that was a huge
gift. Now, my business partner... Was also brought
up exactly the same way just I'm Italian. She's
Greek same thing Hers is funny because if you
ask her she would say She was gonna be a stay
-at -home mom. She went to school. She got a
job for a couple years. She was done She had
no interest in it. And so I always ask her well
what made you decide it and she said she had
such a passion for the business that we were
doing and she did not think other people did
it. So hers just came from, wait a second, I
love this work and I want to do it exactly the
way I want to do it. Thus why I'm 57 and just
started another mission -based business and something
I've never done before. Well, so let's just go
ahead and segue into that. Tell us about the
business that you've started now. So when we
sold the second business, we retired. Victoria's
kids are much younger. Mine are, I'm an empty
nester with amazing kids. I lasted like, I don't
know, like a day and a half before I thought,
oh my God, what do I do? So a friend of mine
was like, hey, write for my blog, tell some stories.
And so as I did it, I decided I really wanted
to write a book. Then I called Victoria. I sucked
her in so hard. She's like, I'm retired. I'm
like, this is going to be so much fun. I mean,
women's like, their eyes went open. They're like,
I could never do that. Yeah, you could. I think
we minimize ourselves sometimes as women. We
think, oh, that's for someone else. Right? Yeah.
I totally get that. So what is your approach
when you're talking about that confidence and
convincing that woman that, you know, yeah, you
can do this, getting them to see? and build that
confidence themselves? Is there some type of
skill that you have that... Yeah, it's a good...
Okay, so I think, and you know this better than
anyone, I think so much of this is mindset. So
I have like three cheats with people and with
myself. I still do this every day with myself.
One is I physically write down, because that's
the way I do it, right? I physically write down
a victory. It might have been yesterday's victory
because I did a hike I didn't think I could do.
It might have been a victory five years ago where
I read a headline in a newspaper at a company
that I had counseled their CEO and I remind myself.
Whatever it is, I'm reminding myself of one thing
that I didn't think I could do that I did. Small,
big, 10 years ago, five minutes ago, whatever
it is. And that really helps me personally get
in the mindset of, okay, There was a time I didn't
think I could do that thing. I did it. That's
just what I'm going through right now. I'm just
feeling like I can't do that thing, but I've
been here. I've scaled this mountain before.
So that's one big one. The second is, and this
took me literally till my fifties. We have the
big goal in front of us and it ultimately freaks
us out. Like I think for a lot of women who have
$50 ,000 businesses, when I say you can hit some
figures. That goal is so big for them that they're
intimidated and they give up. And that is very
understandable. So I don't focus that much on
seven figures. I focus that much on what's the
one thing that I can do today that will move
the needle. From my daughters, I get the call
of, I've got this opportunity, but I don't, I
can do it. And I always tell them, you're going
to channel your inner Sammy Lee Saunders, which
is my oldest son's name, because there is never
a room Sammy Lee does not think he should be
in. And he's not egotistical. He calls his mother.
He's a beautiful soul. But he was interviewing
for this job at Goldman Sachs, and I was like,
honey, like, never going to happen. You went
to a B -plus school. You got a B -plus average.
Like, never going to happen. It's great to aim
high, but what's your, you know, plan B, plan
C? He ignored me completely. He went in. He got
the job. And so in our family, we're always like,
oh, did you channel your inner Sammy Lee? When
you're like, OK, maybe in the back of my head,
I think I can't do this. But in the, like, I
am Sammy Lee, and I am walking into a room, and
they are very lucky to have me. So you have to
figure out which one of those you relate to best.
I'm lucky I relate to all three of them. I, as
a 57 -year -old, channel my 25 -year -old Sammy
Lee. Yeah. That seems so common across the board,
just with other men in general, that they can
carry with them some confidence. Like they totally
believe they belong in every room they're in,
but it's women. We hold ourselves back so much.
We, and we question and we doubt. Yeah. I mean,
Michelle, when I, I, this was, we were midway
of selling the second business. We had sold the
first one, we had made money. We had scaled the
second one to a point where we had a bunch of
suitors. I still would wake up in the morning
and think, I can't believe we have a call with
a potential buyer. I bet they don't know our
business or I bet they don't know us. Like they're
going to get off the phone quickly. Like I would
have to talk myself out of that. And at that
point we were selling an eight figure business
and I still was like, I don't, you know. Victoria
and I, when we got the final offer for the second
business, I'll never forget because I was in
Europe and it was like the middle of the night
and I called her and we both were like maybe
they made a mistake. We were just so crazy because
every guy who would get that would be like they
should have offered more and we were like I left
some money on the table I should have gotten
more. Exactly that is exactly we were like maybe
they messed up a decimal you know. In the book
we go into a lot of research on this and the
only thing that we've pulled out from some great
studies and some super smart people is that it
happens to us very early. There was a study that
was done where men and women are deciding if
they can take an advanced math class. And the
women with As from prior classes have a lower
level of confidence than the men with Cs. And
this is like seventh grade. And so we, I mean,
it's so young that no wonder we're our ages and
we're still having it because it's so hard coded
in there. It's fascinating. It really is. And
sad. You mentioned about the seven -figure ceiling
and how that's the aim there. and talking to
women about how to crack that. What are some
common mental or strategic blocks that keep women
stuck below it? I know we were just talking about
that, but are there some other things? Yeah,
I think there's a couple that are more strategic.
One is that I think women more than men tend
to pursue a business that they're super passionate
about. And we have to take a financial lens to
that. We have to say, Is that a potential seven
-figure business? So there's a section, we have
newsletters called Founders Files. This is all
free information on our website. It's in the
book as well. But we have a set of prompts and
a set of analyses to say, is my chosen business,
is it capable of being a seven -figure business?
Is the overall market size large enough and is
it growing? So you're not just pursuing a passion,
but you're pursuing a passion where you could
end up in this business. So start there. And
then I think the second biggest stumbling block
women have is, man, they want to be solopreneurs.
Someone has convinced them that they can hit
seven figures and get financial freedom being
a solopreneur. And I'll tell you, I don't know
how you would do that. I'm sure there are some
unique businesses that you could. A big part
of some of the work we do is to say, okay, well,
you're pretty good at sales as a solopreneur,
and right now you spend 5 % of your time on that.
What if you spent 30 % of your time? What would
sales look like? Okay, now what would you need
to support that sales? How would we hire? What
other tools would we use? I think that's the
second really big stumbling block. And I think
part of that, Michelle, comes from... We're nurturers,
right? We care so much about the people we let
into our life. So helping women understand that
a hiring decision is a two or three month decision.
If it works out great, you two can be together
forever. And if it doesn't, you've made a two
or three month investment and that is it. And
your job is to treat them respectfully and to
help them as much as you can. But if it is not
a fit or it is not what your business needs,
you sever the relationship, you help them as
much as you can, and you move on. That's a little
bit of another obstacle. Women are like, you
know, they're acting like they're adopting a
child. And they could quit two months from now
too, so. Right. I can see that. I can see how
that would play out as well. So what would you
say the difference between a business that scales
and one that stays small? What's the main difference
there? Yeah, I think there's two. One is... the
business that scales is in a market that can
support a scaled business. So there's demand
for it and there aren't too many competitors
that you could get your seat like. So that's
the first thing. If you've made that mistake
when you kick off your business, your business
is likely never gonna get there. So that's just
something you have to fix. And then I think the
second is, And I can't believe I'm saying this
because I am not a financial person, I promise
you. The women that I see succeed, they have
built a profit and loss statement and a projection
statement. And I work with tons of women on this,
right? Where I say, okay, it is March 18, and
your goal for revenue, April 1st, that you set
way back when, a couple months ago, how's that
looking? What could you do? How could you cure
it? Now let's look at May and see if we're ready
to. So part of it is just that your eye is on
the right ball. So we have to have revenue. And
the women who have a profit and loss, they have
a revenue projection sheet, and they are focused
on top line, they will scale. They may not scale
the way they set the strategic program on January
1st, but they will scale because in their head,
they're looking at a number, they're knowing
they have to hit it, and every single day they're
looking at it thinking, Oh, I'm getting closer.
Let me do that one thing that worked last week.
I'm going to try it again this week. If not the
other women without it, they go super myopic
on the product or the client that they're serving
right at that second. And they deliver that perfectly,
but it doesn't deliver revenue. It doesn't sell.
Very, very interesting. And by the way, that
P &L on those projections, you used to like have
to buy Excel and know it, blah, blah, blah. You
go into cloud AI. you put in a few of your numbers,
out comes the spreadsheet. I did a cash flow
because I didn't believe it because my niece
was helping me with something. And she's like,
no, you can do the whole thing. I'm like, I don't
think you could do the whole thing. I did it
all this week. The whole process took me 15 minutes.
And I am a down to work people. So imagine what
you all can do. Oh, my gosh. It's incredible.
Yeah. The things that we can get from AI in terms
of plugging in things and what it can give us
back. It's phenomenal. Yeah. So. Talking about
any time you start a business and getting through
the early stages of that is always hard. So what
do you say to those people that maybe have started
a business in the middle of it right now? How
do you know when it's time to pivot? Oh, maybe
this just isn't going to work or just keep pushing
through, just keep showing up. How do you know
the difference? Yeah, no, that's a great question.
So my, so I think the way I would look at it
is If you've done the beginning part right, you've
got your total adjustable market. It's big enough
and your business should be able to scale. So
you got to have gotten that part right. But if
you're in that messy middle where you're like,
no one's going to hire me. No one likes my product.
I'm getting rejected daily. Yeah. Two things.
And I have lived in that space for so many years.
My number one is you're not wrong. You're just
pivoting. So you're going to figure out if. The
place you're at falls in one of three categories.
One, you're doing all the right things and you
have to shut up and wait because it's a timing
game. And sometimes that's the case. The second
is you're doing mostly the right things and you
really just need a micro -pivot around products,
service, the way you sell. In our own business
right now, we micro -pivoted about six months
ago because We found that we were much better
with a woman who had 50 ,000 revenues that wanted
to break the seven -figure ceiling versus someone
who had a great idea but wasn't ready to start.
Our patience level and accordingly, our consulting
was terrible for someone with an idea. We're
like, yeah, just, you know, so that was not the
right answer. But if you're in the like beginning
sort of messiness, then you love us, right? Because
we're like, do this, do this, do this. So that
was our micro pivot. And then I think there always
is a macro pivot. And then the book, I talk about
this because the second business that we had,
we had this great, cool, new consulting product.
And seriously, it was in my own head and I loved
it and I thought it was brilliant. It turns out
it was brilliant, but the people we were selling
to didn't have the budget or the interest. And
after a year of selling it, I mean, literally,
we did not have a dollar of revenues. The only
reason we were still in business is because our
core initial service offering people were buying,
so we had a little bit of cash. I was knocking
my head against the wall. I remember calling
Victoria and being like, I fold. I've done everything
I can. And she was like, what? No, you're not.
Absolutely not. And so I was like, OK, I guess
not. Well, a few weeks into that, we were pitching
once again to someone who wasn't going to buy
it. And this guy looks at me and goes, you're
selling to the wrong person. I'm the finance
guy. Go sell to the legal counsel. He has a budget
for what you're doing. Here. I'll call Merle.
Calls the legal counsel in on the phone. And
the guy's like, yeah, when can we meet? And that
broke the whole thing. But had I not, first of
all, listened to Victoria and kept going. But
I mean, that was a massive pivot. Same product.
Everything about it, delivery, marketing, thought
leadership, everything had to be pivoted in a
short amount of time. So don't give up. If you've
done the work that you have in addressable market
and it's growing, And you've gotten some feedback
on that sort of what we call that minimum viable
product, that first thing. You got some feedback
that's pretty good. Your job is to figure out,
do I just stay the course and do what I'm doing?
Can I make a little tweak and change everything?
Or do I have to make a bigger tweak? But I'm
not giving up. To me, the only time you give
up is because you haven't authenticated the size
of the market. And I think that's it. Even if
you're running out of money, you always find
ways to get more money. Oh, very good, very insightful.
So women start half the world's businesses yet
face massive funding disparities. What do you
think has to change and what can women do right
now while the system catches up? Yeah, I think
the system's gonna catch up, right? By 2050 in
the United States, women will control more wealth
than men for the first time ever. It's very like
demographic birth rates aging out, et cetera.
That's why, but that's happening. So JP Morgan
came out with that six months ago. And I just
want us all to remember that when in 2050 we
control the well, we're going to control the
financing, you know, but we've got 24 years in
the middle. So I think there's two things. One
is everything we've talked about this conversation,
you know, channeling our inner Sammy Lee, we're
not going to raise a bit of money. unless we
go in with some swagger. So I think we've got
to change the way we would be comfortable pitching,
which oftentimes is like we're being super authentic
to having just a little bit of swagger and being
willing to dream openly a little bit. But the
second is there are so many small incubators
in every state I've been in run by women. And
there is, you're not going to go raise your first
round's not going to be 500 ,000. But if it was
50 ,000 and it got you to proof of concept, you
would be much more successful than raising 500
,000 range. Maybe the average AI guy doesn't
have to go the incubator route, they can go right
to Angel. Okay, but that's not your story. Your
story is you're going to go in your town, your
city, there's virtual incubators run by women.
groups of women and you're just going to get
involved in the same way you would with a mastermind
and you will find small tranches of money available
and some really smart guidance from people about
what you'd have to have to raise the next tranche
of funding. That number is growing, it's making
me feel more positive and then every year when
that we only get 2 % of venture funding comes
out, then I get mad again. So I feel that for
everybody. What advice would you give to someone
who has a big business idea, but doesn't feel
like she has the time or maybe in midlife, the
permission to pursue it? What would you tell
a woman in that situation? Yeah, no, that's a
lot of women that I talk to at this point. There's
a couple things and actually on our website,
There's a super inexpensive course. It's under
50 bucks. And it's meant just for that. It's
called Entrepreneur Like a Mother. And it starts
with what I think is one of the most important
things, which is find your freedom number. And
we'd started that because so many women are like,
oh, I just need to save money. Oh, I need this.
I need this. I need this. We put together, and
it's interactive. It's super easy to do. Anyone
can do it. What you'd have to have in order to
start the business that you want. Because what
I think we found in mentoring women is that If
we can get them over the hurdle that financially
their family won't be in a worse position for
a period of time if they do this, that a lot
of times opens the floodgates to say, okay, I
could really do this. So the first is just like
get your financial mind straight. Then the second
is get your business idea straight and build
your own little kitchen cabinet to test your
business strategies out. And sometimes it's people
you don't know. Sometimes it's people you do
know, but if you can spend 15 minutes with someone
who's funded businesses before or scaled businesses
before, you get your business model idea down
to a five -minute spiel and then listen to feedback
for the other 10 minutes. Do that five or six
or seven times. You'll have validation for your
business or it'll be very clear the tweaks that
you might have to make before you start. So if
you've done those two things, you've got the,
okay, I've got a six -month runway where I could
invest this amount of money and I could start
my business, okay. And then I've pitched my idea
to some pretty smart people and I feel pretty
confident from their reaction what I could do.
And those are like the two places we get. And
then when women get there, we work with them
a little bit to say, okay, so what are the five
things you'd have to do this month? to get to
the next step. We start doing that one hard thing
a day with them to get them launched. But you've
got to get your money right. You got to get your
money brain right. And then you just got to go
outside to somebody who's been through it, who
either tweaks your idea or validates it. And
let me tell you one thing about what you probably
know is when you go on LinkedIn, there are a
lot of people who are able to do the work that
I just did. And you cannot believe how generous
people are with their time. I have been blown
away with the number of people that have helped
me. It is almost never that someone DMs me on
LinkedIn that I don't say, yeah, let's get on
the phone. And I think I am not in the minority.
There are women who want to help women. So if
someone's like, I have a business idea, I want
to test one thing on you because I know you have
experience in professional services, I take their
calendar invite in a second. I always feel like
for every five outreaches, one person responds,
get out there and outreach. Then you've got the
two things. You feel confident financially, you
feel confident in your business idea. Oh, you
can do it then. You feel a lot different. Yeah,
very good. I love that. You've mentioned your
book. Tell us more about the book that's coming
out that you're going to release. It's been really
a labor of love and so much fun to co -write
it. I recommend everyone co -write a book with
their best friend. We've had nothing but fun.
The publishing process is from hell, but the
actual writing was really fun. The goal of the
book was We are voracious readers. I will literally
read the back of a cereal box. Like, I always
want to read everything. And I got really frustrated
that the business books that I was reading didn't
reflect my journey. I mean, my journey was I'm
super ambitious. I wanted to make a lot of money.
But I have four kids. Victoria had five kids.
And there seemed to be a lot of messaging that
you just had to go down a deep entrepreneurial
hole for a decade. And if you did that, you were
going to be wildly successful. And we thought,
okay, we went down holes, but I saw my kid play
in most of his hockey tournaments. She made pickup
three times a week. Like, we told our clients,
we would love to talk to you at four o 'clock,
but my son is in the Christmas pageant, so I
can't talk to you till 5 15. And Michelle, we
were telling that to Fortune 1000 public company
CEOs. And nine times out of 10, they were like,
awesome, call me at 530. And so we weren't reading
those stories and we were like, wait, we've now
done this 20 years. That's not our story. That's
not the only people that can be successful. And
this idea that there was one model to be successful
in building a business, we just didn't relate
to. So of course we're like, we'll tell the world,
you know, with no bearing whatsoever. We never
wrote a book. We don't know anything. We were
like, oh, we'll tell the world. So the whole
point of the book is, helping women, particularly
moms and caregivers, who are ambitious, figure
out a model and a process that works for them
to make a bunch of money in a field they want
to, which is super different than the Sam Altman
go -build -open -AI -in -your -barrens -basement
-eating -ramen. Like, we didn't have that choice.
So the whole point was, pick this up, and you're
going to see something of yourself in there.
And maybe you'll also see the humanity because
we're super honest about the ridiculous mistakes
we made. I mean, there's a section in there,
there's a little story in there about how my
kids' kindergarten room moms, they thought I
was so incompetent that when they like assigned
me Chex Mix, they had people come over and make
sure that I had the right recipe. And like, there's
three things in Chex Mix. I think I can do this.
No, no, no. I was sanctioned because I thought,
you're a working mom, you're going to get checks
mixed wrong. I mean, there's so many stories
in there, really. Or just forgetting kids or
doing whatever. And so part of it is just to
be really human for women because we're moms,
we're aspiring moms or we're caregivers, right?
And so we do beautiful things with them and we
also mess up terribly. And so we just thought,
well, let's put it all out there so someone could
read this and think. Okay, Eve, I would not be
as dumb as they were, so I bet you I could do
this. The book has been super fun. It's coming
out in September. It is both, I think, like,
heartwarming and true, because it's authentic,
but it's also super badass. If you want to do
this, it gives you step by step by step by step
how to do it. Everyone calls that a system. I
don't know what I call it, but that's the point
of the book. Oh, it sounds wonderful. What's
the name? Entrepreneur Like a Mother. Oh, love
it. I love it. I was looking on your website
and are there things that are like on your website
now that are in the book as well? Or is this
completely kind of new material in the book?
Yeah, I think there is the Founder's File newsletter,
which is totally free. You should subscribe.
It's really great. It's got such good content.
It's a little bit more directed on the how -to.
The book is the same concept, Mental Mindset,
Five Power Moves. But it's a lot more information.
And then it's got like our actual stories, some
business, some personal interspersed in there.
So hopefully it's like a much more fun read,
but also has, which I love. It's got questions
at the end of each chapter, but then the last
chapter, our worksheets, because I'm a super
worksheet person. So the publisher let us do
all of our worksheets and it's broken up between
your going from idea to your first sale. And
then the other is that sweet middle that I love
that we're 50 ,000 and we want to break seven
figures. And then the last section is, okay,
we're close to seven figures. Now we got to figure
out, do we want a lifestyle business or do we
want to really scale this thing? So hopefully
there's something in it for wherever women are
at this stage in their journey. That's wonderful.
Well, I personally look forward to reading it
when it comes out. Thank you for sharing about
that. Is there, before we close, anything else
that you'd like to share with our audience? Something
that you haven't said to this point. Yeah, I
think that we do better as women interacting
with others, iterating, validating, cheerleading.
So Victoria and I unwittingly, but now we do
it in a very planned way, we have really created
a kitchen cabinet around us of other women, and
actually men, because we both have sets of brothers
who are amazing. And we have a set of people
that when we run into an obstacle, we know who
to call. Sometimes it's a cheerleader, so like
our best friends where I'm like, why am I writing
a book, you know, and I'm saying, who, but you
should, you know, even though that's not valid,
but they said it. Cheerleader, and then we call
compensators, which are smart people in areas
that we don't know anything about. So for me,
I went in such a deep dive on social media for
the last 12 months after, like, not even ever
downloading Instagram. But that's such a critical
part of the book sale process. So that's a compensator.
And then the third are connectors. You know who
these people are in your life. Like, oh, Michelle,
you want to do that? Great. So I've got this
person you should talk to. And so if you could
spend 30 minutes on that a week, and that's it.
Figuring out, gosh, I really need a compensator
who can help me figure out, you know, product
delivery in Sri Lanka, whoever it is. You're
building that. You're asking for favors on LinkedIn.
You're saying, could you talk to me for 10 minutes?
I have a question. Then you're building that
relationship. When you're doing it, sometimes
it feels awkward and you're not exactly sure
where it's all going to fit in. As you do that
30 minutes a week for a year, you just wait to
see at the end of the year. when you feel like
you've got a business problem, you then look
at your network and you're like, I have three
people I can call to help me solve it. So I know
we're super busy and we hate networking because
it's so inauthentic and we don't like asking
for favors. But that's one area. If you either
are or you want to be an entrepreneur, build
those three categories and build that kitchen
cabinet so when you run into the thing you're
not sure you can overcome. You're not like sitting
Googling or going on chat GPT. How do I solve
my business problem? You have a couple people
you can call and say can I get 15 minutes and
then return you're gonna pay that forward as
Much as you can you're gonna give everybody who
asks you 15 minutes. That is my mantra I will
give everybody who asked me 15 minutes if they're
a woman and an entrepreneur including if they're
trying to sell me something And that turned out
to be the person who connected us with our largest
client, our first business was a kitchen cabinet
member. And the person who talked us out of taking
a deal, which a year later we got a much bigger
deal. Both those were kitchen cabinet members.
Women I reached to from LinkedIn and said, you
don't know me, but you know this person and I
know this person. I really need 15 minutes. Could
you give it to me? And they said, yes. And so
now they're still in my network. That's wonderful.
Great idea. Yeah. And I love that being open
and it's that whole concept of being willing
to give and then you get back, you receive so
much more in return, you know, when you give.
You blindly give. The world gives it back to
you. And yeah, some people take advantage of
you and whatever, but you sort of blindly give
and I really, really believe it comes back to
you. Yeah. Wonderful. It's been such a joy talking
to you, Bets. Thank you so much for the connection
and sharing with me and the audience about the
work that you do. And I wish you all the best
continued success in this new chapter and with
the book coming out. And I definitely want to
keep in touch. Thank you, Michelle. Me too. That
was great. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for
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