WEBVTT 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:13.500 Welcome to her comeback, transforming your life 00:00:13.500 --> 00:00:16.359 after 50. I'm your host, Michelle Thompson. If 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.239 you've ever whispered to yourself, There has 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:22.280 to be more than this. You are in the right place. 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.059 This show is for women over 50 who have hit their 00:00:25.059 --> 00:00:27.440 breaking point and are finally ready to stop 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.379 going at it alone. You've tried the self -help 00:00:30.379 --> 00:00:33.539 books, the vision boards, the positive thinking, 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.640 but you're still stuck. And here's what I know. 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:40.500 You're not broken. You just need the right support. 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:42.439 And that's exactly what you're going to find 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.539 here. Each week, I'll sit down with incredible 00:00:45.539 --> 00:00:48.299 women who have transformed their lives. You'll 00:00:48.299 --> 00:00:51.299 hear their real stories, the messy middle, the 00:00:51.299 --> 00:00:53.420 breakthrough moments, the practical steps that 00:00:53.420 --> 00:00:56.280 they took to create the lives that they love. 00:00:56.700 --> 00:01:00.100 Because your lowest limit, it can be your launching 00:01:00.100 --> 00:01:03.840 pad. So if you're done settling and ready for 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.879 your comeback, stay with me. Let's discover how 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.760 other women have made it happen and how you can 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:14.700 too. Are you ready? This is her comeback. Welcome 00:01:14.700 --> 00:01:18.459 everyone today. I am so excited all the way from 00:01:18.459 --> 00:01:22.760 Los Angeles, California, Natasha McCrae. She 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:27.540 is the founder of Love CEO Institute. I had the 00:01:27.540 --> 00:01:31.140 privilege of meeting her at an event earlier 00:01:31.140 --> 00:01:33.920 this year and asked her if she would join us 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.599 today. She is a coach, a speaker and actress 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.299 and author, and all of her work is rooted in 00:01:41.299 --> 00:01:44.579 her own journey of self discovery and empowerment. 00:01:45.099 --> 00:01:47.340 So I just feel so blessed to have her with us 00:01:47.340 --> 00:01:51.060 today. Natasha, welcome. Hello. I'm excited to 00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:54.900 be here. Can you tell our viewers a little bit 00:01:54.900 --> 00:01:58.409 more about yourself? It's so fascinating when 00:01:58.409 --> 00:02:00.969 you ask that question and you hear all the crazy 00:02:00.969 --> 00:02:05.269 things of being multi -passionate and this weekend 00:02:05.269 --> 00:02:08.909 someone said without the titles who are you they 00:02:08.909 --> 00:02:12.710 asked that question at an event and years ago 00:02:12.710 --> 00:02:15.909 i stripped that all down because i found myself 00:02:15.909 --> 00:02:19.150 compartmentalizing myself with all the things 00:02:19.150 --> 00:02:23.849 and i like to think of myself as a creative lover 00:02:23.849 --> 00:02:31.270 of life of myself, of women, of the collective 00:02:31.270 --> 00:02:34.909 consciousness that we're all connected. So I'm 00:02:34.909 --> 00:02:38.569 a creative lover to start. Yes, that's amazing. 00:02:38.569 --> 00:02:42.629 I love that. Yeah. And then as we go into all 00:02:42.629 --> 00:02:46.270 the things that I do, it's really important for 00:02:46.270 --> 00:02:54.259 me to leave this planet and this earth and Not 00:02:54.259 --> 00:02:58.520 leaving any dreams unturned Yeah, so that's a 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.599 big deal for me then and what a beautiful goal. 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.740 I love that that you're want to make sure that 00:03:04.740 --> 00:03:09.960 you have Lived fully as you went in every direction. 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.819 You wanted to go it sounds like yeah, definitely 00:03:14.169 --> 00:03:17.889 So tell me a little bit more about what moment 00:03:17.889 --> 00:03:21.710 led you to founding the Love CEO Institute and 00:03:21.710 --> 00:03:25.169 how did your own journey of self discovery kind 00:03:25.169 --> 00:03:28.650 of shape where you are with this work? Yes, by 00:03:28.650 --> 00:03:32.110 the age of 30, I was married and divorced twice. 00:03:32.629 --> 00:03:36.969 And I went into therapy, extensive therapy, and 00:03:36.969 --> 00:03:42.780 I began to uncover What love really is because 00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:46.500 in therapy I realized I was a love addict never 00:03:46.500 --> 00:03:50.020 heard that term before didn't know that existed 00:03:50.020 --> 00:03:54.919 and one of the things in understanding what love 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.599 addiction was I said, okay, let me really dive 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:03.620 into what exactly is love. So I did all the workshops. 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:07.939 I did all the books. I did therapy and I began 00:04:07.939 --> 00:04:14.990 to uncover this most beautiful concept of pure 00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:18.470 love and where it's generated from and where 00:04:18.470 --> 00:04:22.189 it starts. And at the same time, as an actress, 00:04:22.189 --> 00:04:25.709 I was writing my one woman show. So over this 00:04:25.709 --> 00:04:29.889 10 year journey, I finally decided to put my 00:04:29.889 --> 00:04:34.029 one woman show up and I had no clue what it would 00:04:34.029 --> 00:04:36.329 be about, but I had all these monologues written 00:04:36.329 --> 00:04:40.199 and one day God was like, pull out all these 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.180 monologues, lay them on your living room floor. 00:04:42.180 --> 00:04:44.600 And I looked at it and it was evolution of a 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.459 love addict. Wow. And so that's what my one woman 00:04:48.459 --> 00:04:52.839 show was about. And after the show, you always 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.759 do Q and A and I assumed the Q and A was going 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.300 to be people asking me about my process or how 00:05:00.300 --> 00:05:02.980 did I ride or getting my director. But the questions 00:05:02.980 --> 00:05:06.139 that came in were more like group therapy. How 00:05:06.139 --> 00:05:08.709 do you love again? How do you pick yourself up 00:05:08.709 --> 00:05:11.430 after divorce? How do you begin to love yourself 00:05:11.430 --> 00:05:14.610 again? How do you forgive your family for things 00:05:14.610 --> 00:05:17.129 that you thought were wrong as a child, but as 00:05:17.129 --> 00:05:18.990 an adult, you realize they were doing the best 00:05:18.990 --> 00:05:22.009 that they could with the tools they had. So these 00:05:22.009 --> 00:05:24.009 questions became group therapy and I would get 00:05:24.009 --> 00:05:26.949 emails that I would at night go home after the 00:05:26.949 --> 00:05:29.290 show and I would be replying to emails and I 00:05:29.290 --> 00:05:32.509 would be replying with the process that I used 00:05:32.509 --> 00:05:36.110 to start living the life that I wanted, start 00:05:36.110 --> 00:05:38.920 designing. life that I wanted. And when I realized 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.949 that combination of the group. therapy after 00:05:41.949 --> 00:05:44.949 my one woman show and doing the emails and looking 00:05:44.949 --> 00:05:47.110 at all the things that I had done to get to where 00:05:47.110 --> 00:05:50.329 I was. That's when I decided I would become a 00:05:50.329 --> 00:05:54.269 coach and that's how I started love CEO Institute 00:05:54.269 --> 00:05:57.430 because I truly believe it starts with love and 00:05:57.430 --> 00:06:00.490 if we took the concept of business and connected 00:06:00.490 --> 00:06:02.829 it with love and we began to treat ourselves 00:06:02.829 --> 00:06:05.670 with the same type of importance of showing up 00:06:05.670 --> 00:06:09.110 on time of having meetings all the time then. 00:06:09.259 --> 00:06:12.800 I feel like if we can take left and right brain 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.860 concepts of love and combine the two, we would 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:18.279 live more fulfilling lives. And so that's how 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.180 I created Love CEO Institute. And the very first 00:06:21.180 --> 00:06:24.819 course was Loving Yourself to Love, which is 00:06:24.819 --> 00:06:26.779 a course that I still offer here at Love CEO 00:06:26.779 --> 00:06:31.500 Institute. Wow. What an amazing journey. And 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:34.699 for women over 50 that are looking at their own 00:06:34.699 --> 00:06:38.699 transformations, how do you feel that your transformation 00:06:38.699 --> 00:06:42.660 relates to women at this age? How does that connect? 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:47.459 Yeah, we're always evolving, right? I started 00:06:47.459 --> 00:06:52.839 Love CEO Institute in my early 40s and the foundation 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.420 of my company was self love, self care. It felt 00:06:55.420 --> 00:06:58.660 great. It was cushy. I had events at spas and 00:06:58.660 --> 00:07:02.519 we did all these fabulous things and I started 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:07.500 a whiskey brand and me and my business partner, 00:07:07.500 --> 00:07:09.839 we decided we wanted to disrupt the industry 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.819 with a brand that focuses on women and brings 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:16.240 women into the conversation. And we did that 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:22.300 at 50 and 60 years old. And yes. And so we got 00:07:22.300 --> 00:07:25.399 accepted into tech stars and tech stars is a 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.370 tech accelerator, which is. So fascinating, our 00:07:28.370 --> 00:07:31.069 whiskey brand. And entering Techstars, it was 00:07:31.069 --> 00:07:34.170 a different lifestyle. A lifestyle that was different 00:07:34.170 --> 00:07:39.689 from my spa days and retreats and vision board 00:07:39.689 --> 00:07:43.550 workshops. It became networking, showing up, 00:07:43.709 --> 00:07:46.449 phone calls, meetings, all these things that 00:07:46.449 --> 00:07:48.910 was pulling me back into my masculine energy. 00:07:49.329 --> 00:07:52.110 And I, my husband was cracking up at me because 00:07:52.110 --> 00:07:53.610 he would walk in the room and he's like, is that 00:07:53.610 --> 00:07:55.730 you I'm listening to? And I'm like, yes, I'm 00:07:55.730 --> 00:07:58.720 listening to Mod. of unapologetically alpha, 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:04.339 because I had to redefine even my self care plan 00:08:04.339 --> 00:08:09.720 at 50. I had to redefine that. I was starting 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.660 a new business at 50 when some, at least back 00:08:13.660 --> 00:08:16.000 in the day, were thinking, okay, what's my retirement 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:22.560 plan? And so I had to consider that since life, 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:27.980 Is fluid and I am fluid in the sense of we're 00:08:27.980 --> 00:08:32.740 always ever changing. I had to really dive into 00:08:32.740 --> 00:08:36.240 this concept that I I teach a methodology called 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.539 love see called love intelligence and one of 00:08:39.539 --> 00:08:42.360 the core pillars of love intelligence which I 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.779 believe we are all born with is self awareness. 00:08:48.350 --> 00:08:52.090 And self -awareness can be thrown around, but 00:08:52.090 --> 00:08:55.809 it's really about relationship with self. If 00:08:55.809 --> 00:08:59.149 you are having a continuous relationship with 00:08:59.149 --> 00:09:03.169 self, then you know when things change. So I 00:09:03.169 --> 00:09:09.110 have had to completely transform as my life transforms, 00:09:09.230 --> 00:09:13.769 as my circumstances transform. I've had to dive 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:17.299 into continuing that conversation and dialogue 00:09:17.299 --> 00:09:20.799 with myself. Understanding what worked for me 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.320 six years ago isn't working for me in this moment. 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.879 And when I knew that and I have a huge toolbox, 00:09:30.179 --> 00:09:33.700 I was able to open that toolbox and pull things 00:09:33.700 --> 00:09:37.740 out that could help me navigate. this new life 00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:41.000 of being in a highly masculine environment or 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:44.779 this new life of being in menopause and the things 00:09:44.779 --> 00:09:48.899 that come with that. So it made life a lot easier 00:09:48.899 --> 00:09:53.059 when I understand that I am always transforming 00:09:53.059 --> 00:09:56.100 so that I don't get stuck in the, oh, I should 00:09:56.100 --> 00:09:59.559 have, oh, I couldn't have, oh, I should be life 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:03.000 after. Yeah. Yeah. Love that message. It's cause 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.539 it's so true. And cause I know on my own personal 00:10:05.539 --> 00:10:07.440 journey, I'll do some work and I'm like, okay, 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.860 I've got that self -awareness. I feel like I 00:10:09.860 --> 00:10:13.120 know where I am and who I am, but then some time 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.519 passes and then all of a sudden I don't have 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.659 that same comfort level. So what is it? How do 00:10:18.659 --> 00:10:21.080 you keep in touch with that? What is you talk 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:24.059 about tools and your toolbox? Is there something 00:10:24.059 --> 00:10:27.759 that works for you to keep that contact with 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:31.710 yourself? Yes. I have a course that I created 00:10:31.710 --> 00:10:34.750 in, it's a self care, self care for high achieving 00:10:34.750 --> 00:10:36.970 women, because I believe there's a different 00:10:36.970 --> 00:10:39.669 level of self care. We look at self care a little 00:10:39.669 --> 00:10:43.029 differently and it's really about building that 00:10:43.029 --> 00:10:45.929 blueprint of self care and it's in depth. It 00:10:45.929 --> 00:10:48.929 goes far beyond the physical self care, which 00:10:48.929 --> 00:10:50.669 most of us, when we think about self care, we 00:10:50.669 --> 00:10:53.649 think about the bubble baths, the massages, but 00:10:53.649 --> 00:10:57.950 it dives into like your mental, your emotional, 00:10:58.450 --> 00:11:00.559 your physical, your your spiritual self care, 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:04.559 your financial self care. And so when you just 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.779 begin to ask yourself certain questions or dive 00:11:07.779 --> 00:11:10.980 into that, you create a blueprint that covers 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:13.139 all the different aspects of self care. Because 00:11:13.139 --> 00:11:14.700 if you're doing self care and you're not being 00:11:14.700 --> 00:11:17.820 rejuvenated, then something, there's a discrepancy. 00:11:18.139 --> 00:11:21.200 And so what I've done over the years, I've created 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.320 these blueprints for myself. And in creating 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.480 the blueprint of my self care, that's where I 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.309 start. Like my self care, whenever I'm creating 00:11:30.309 --> 00:11:34.070 a goal or I'm going after these dreams that I 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:39.129 have, self care is right in alignment with the 00:11:39.129 --> 00:11:41.830 tasks that need to get done. And I generally 00:11:41.830 --> 00:11:46.549 lay that foundation first. And with the understanding 00:11:46.549 --> 00:11:50.909 that my self care blueprint, that I had prior 00:11:50.909 --> 00:11:54.570 to 2023 was not the self -care blueprint I had 00:11:54.570 --> 00:11:57.750 by the end of 2023. It is not the self -care 00:11:57.750 --> 00:12:03.250 blueprint that I have right now in 2025. So it's 00:12:03.250 --> 00:12:09.000 becoming so in tune with yourself that You can 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.419 have that conversation. Like you said, Michelle, 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:12.840 when you're sitting there and you're like, oh, 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.039 it's just not feeling right for me, but you can 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.820 have that conversation and you can ask yourself 00:12:18.820 --> 00:12:23.039 the question, what do I need right now? That 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:27.840 can help me navigate this time that I'm in. And 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:31.899 surprisingly, if you get quiet and ask that yourself, 00:12:31.899 --> 00:12:36.179 that question, we are intuitive beings and the 00:12:36.179 --> 00:12:39.629 answer will come to you. It will. But what happens 00:12:39.629 --> 00:12:41.850 is we get conditioned to second guess it. Oh 00:12:41.850 --> 00:12:43.590 no, it's not that. Oh, it's not that. Oh no, 00:12:43.789 --> 00:12:45.950 maybe it wasn't that, but we have an answer. 00:12:46.350 --> 00:12:49.970 What do I need right now to help me navigate 00:12:49.970 --> 00:12:55.830 this? And so with that being said, I have that 00:12:55.830 --> 00:12:58.629 self -care blueprint that is one of my major 00:12:58.629 --> 00:13:01.830 tools and that self -care blueprint can shift. 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.139 and ebb and flow at any given moment. And I understand 00:13:05.139 --> 00:13:07.659 that. So when I'm feeling, it's not saying I 00:13:07.659 --> 00:13:10.039 don't have moments where I feel off or I don't 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.320 have moments where I'm doubting myself. It's 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.000 not saying I don't have those moments. It's that 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.519 I can look at myself in the mirror and give myself 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.379 grace and accept what I'm feeling, not try to 00:13:21.379 --> 00:13:25.220 brush it under the rug. And then after I am in 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:29.179 acceptance of what I'm feeling, I can also mother 00:13:29.179 --> 00:13:32.679 myself and say, Well, what do you need in this 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:37.340 moment? I love that. Such a beautiful practice. 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.559 It sounds like that you're describing. So for 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.960 women that have spent so many years taking care 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.039 of other people, whether it was kids or a spouse 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.679 or partner, and they really want to start this 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.100 journey, but this is really new territory for 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:56.120 them. Just taking that first step and some type 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.840 of maybe a daily practice of self care. What 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.539 other thoughts might you share about that? Yes, 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.240 it is very challenging when you've created the 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:08.639 mind maps of everyone else comes first and that 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.580 your needs are not a priority. Um, it can be 00:14:12.580 --> 00:14:18.679 a challenge. And I had a client who came to me, 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.039 she on paper, everything looked. amazing. She 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.360 had the career, she had worked up the corporate 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.200 ladder, she had two kids going into high school, 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.720 one was graduating, and she just was not feeling 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.379 fulfilled. And she didn't really have a solid 00:14:34.379 --> 00:14:37.840 self -care plan. And one of the very first things 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.799 I remember, this was in our first session, I 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:45.179 had her open up her calendar and block two hours 00:14:45.179 --> 00:14:47.259 on the calendar. And she's like, okay, so efficient. 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.600 What am I blocking it for? And I said, absolutely 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.679 nothing. And she almost like clutched her pearl. 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.620 She was like, what? This makes absolutely no 00:14:55.620 --> 00:15:00.899 sense. And so the very first step, which now 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:04.200 after working with that client, a lot of my clients 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:08.259 go through is taking a two hour block out of 00:15:08.259 --> 00:15:13.860 your calendar for absolutely nothing for yourself. 00:15:14.019 --> 00:15:16.240 You don't have to, the first phase is I don't 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:21.460 have to be doing. Yes, but it's your time and 00:15:21.460 --> 00:15:24.279 You can get into that two hours and then decide. 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.700 What is it? Am I going for a walk? Oh, do I want 00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:28.440 to go get my hair done? I haven't had done in 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.580 ten years. It's a switch I think from doing to 00:15:31.580 --> 00:15:36.460 just being yes, I just be and yeah to do yeah. 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:42.080 Yeah, and that is It's harder than you think 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.399 Some of you might be listening to this and think, 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:48.799 oh, that's so easy. Try it right now. And I'll 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.700 tell you how easy it is. The other thing that 00:15:51.700 --> 00:15:56.740 has been helpful as well, cause I will, I have 00:15:56.740 --> 00:16:00.600 my clients go on a, I call it a no, a detox from 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.820 yes. And what that means is just taking a week 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:08.539 to say no. Now that's even more challenging. 00:16:08.980 --> 00:16:12.929 Oh, I bet. For sure. Even things, and I don't 00:16:12.929 --> 00:16:16.289 mean saying no to yourself or saying no to things 00:16:16.289 --> 00:16:18.269 that bring you joy. And you also have to ask 00:16:18.269 --> 00:16:20.730 that question. Does this bring me joy or am I 00:16:20.730 --> 00:16:23.850 looking for approval? That's a hard pill to swallow, 00:16:24.830 --> 00:16:28.389 but it's saying no. If someone says, Hey, can 00:16:28.389 --> 00:16:31.220 you pick me up here? Uh, no, and you don't have 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:33.360 to have an answer. It's just like, no, I can't 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.720 do that this week. And empowering, right? Like 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.580 just being able to say, no, I can't, and then 00:16:38.580 --> 00:16:41.460 be able to step back and yeah, it's huge. It's 00:16:41.460 --> 00:16:44.460 a, and it's going to feel weird at first. Yes. 00:16:44.659 --> 00:16:47.000 It's going to feel challenging. It's going to 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.340 feel weird. You're going to feel guilty. You 00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:51.000 might even have some people who want to guilt 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.159 you. If you don't want to pick someone up, you 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.039 could be sitting on your couch for all I care. 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.679 It does not matter. You don't have to do things 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:02.639 just because you have to give them a reason. 00:17:02.820 --> 00:17:04.619 You don't have to say, oh, I'm not going to do 00:17:04.619 --> 00:17:08.119 this because no, there's no because you just 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.539 I'm not going to do this. Yes. And then there's 00:17:10.539 --> 00:17:12.339 a third one just because I'm a coach. So this 00:17:12.339 --> 00:17:15.140 is always exciting because I always want to walk 00:17:15.140 --> 00:17:17.640 you through processes. But the third one would 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:23.579 be to sit down, set a timer and brainstorm stream 00:17:23.579 --> 00:17:26.140 of consciousness, all the things that bring you 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:29.859 joy. And if you cannot think of anything in this 00:17:29.859 --> 00:17:32.779 moment, think of the last time you felt joy. 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.980 And you may need to go back to when you were 00:17:34.980 --> 00:17:38.599 a child playing with your dolls, felt joy, picking 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.839 flowers, felt whatever it is, brainstorm stream 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:48.019 of consciousness. What brings me joy? That is 00:17:48.019 --> 00:17:51.440 wonderful. I love that practice. And I know from 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.400 my own personal experience that at one time that 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:58.319 was really hard for me. I'm like, Oh my God, 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.079 what do I like? What does make me happy? And 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:05.529 it's taking some time in my own journey of Getting 00:18:05.529 --> 00:18:07.890 in touch with myself and better understanding 00:18:07.890 --> 00:18:11.630 me to say, yes, I like this. I don't like that, 00:18:11.809 --> 00:18:15.250 but I like this and just knowing me. And for 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:18.819 me, I have to do that periodically. Just because 00:18:18.819 --> 00:18:21.579 I know what brings me joy and I wrote that down 00:18:21.579 --> 00:18:25.279 and I, and I'm saying it and I'm doing the things 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.759 there. Sometimes it gets stale and rusty in life. 00:18:29.180 --> 00:18:31.079 You're on the journey and you're just ticking 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:34.700 those boxes off your to -do list and you have 00:18:34.700 --> 00:18:37.200 to revisit it. You have to take a moment and 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:42.000 revisit it. And I do revisit that often. So important. 00:18:43.570 --> 00:18:47.589 So how does developing this self love that we're 00:18:47.589 --> 00:18:51.069 talking about change the dynamics of your existing 00:18:51.069 --> 00:18:53.269 relationships? What do you think about that with, 00:18:53.269 --> 00:18:56.390 whether it's with a partner or your kids or friends? 00:18:56.390 --> 00:18:59.670 What are your thoughts? I truly believe you are 00:18:59.670 --> 00:19:04.210 the blueprint of how people treat you. And that 00:19:04.210 --> 00:19:07.089 was one of the toughest things I had to accept 00:19:07.089 --> 00:19:13.559 in, when I was in therapy because We look at 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.759 the external all the time of all this person 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.619 is doing that. Oh, they did this they did that 00:19:19.619 --> 00:19:25.700 if you created the blueprint of How you should 00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:29.039 be treated meaning treating yourself the way 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.960 you should be treated Everyone else will fall 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:37.190 in line That's great. That is so beautiful. I 00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:40.069 love that. And I know it's true. I know from 00:19:40.069 --> 00:19:43.750 my own experience, it's like, for me, boundaries. 00:19:43.930 --> 00:19:46.230 If I put a boundary up that this is something 00:19:46.230 --> 00:19:48.269 that's acceptable to me, or this is something 00:19:48.269 --> 00:19:51.230 that is not acceptable to me, and I stick to 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:53.369 it, it's just like you say, people will fall 00:19:53.369 --> 00:19:55.950 in line. I've established a boundary and it's 00:19:55.950 --> 00:19:59.170 going to go the direction that I'm driving it, 00:19:59.289 --> 00:20:02.029 right? Yeah. Yeah. And you have to trust it. 00:20:02.089 --> 00:20:05.430 I'll never forget, I had a colleague who's a 00:20:05.430 --> 00:20:10.250 really close friend of mine now, and she was 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:15.269 going out with a group of women, and some people 00:20:15.269 --> 00:20:18.769 asked, oh, where's Natasha? And she's like, oh 00:20:18.769 --> 00:20:21.730 yeah, Natasha doesn't do this type of thing. 00:20:22.009 --> 00:20:24.049 And it was because they were being really gossipy. 00:20:24.269 --> 00:20:26.910 And these are fabulous women, but when they... 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.279 that particular group got together. They were 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.200 really gossipy or they steered on the negative 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.200 skew of life. I always, I choose the side of 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.900 the statistic I want to be on, not saying that 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:41.480 the other side that I don't want to be on doesn't 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.700 exist and not saying the other side I don't want 00:20:43.700 --> 00:20:48.119 to be on. I haven't been in. However, I tend 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.240 to focus on the side of the statistic that I 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:56.019 want to be in. And so my friend responded to 00:20:56.019 --> 00:20:58.420 those women and she was like, yeah, Natasha doesn't 00:20:58.420 --> 00:21:02.599 do this, this kind of stuff. And almost when 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:06.160 she first said that I did almost at first think, 00:21:06.900 --> 00:21:08.920 wow, they didn't invite me. I don't get it. And 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.779 then I paused for a second. I was like, you're 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:15.420 staying straight. Thank you so much for sparing 00:21:15.420 --> 00:21:20.039 me. Yeah. And I love that. And we became like 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:21.900 the best of friends because she invites me to 00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:24.619 a whole bunch of other stuff, but she knows which 00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:27.779 group and I don't want to rain on other people's 00:21:27.779 --> 00:21:30.140 parade. If they need to do group therapy and 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.700 complain about the world, then, you know, then 00:21:32.700 --> 00:21:35.160 go right ahead. But she knew which side I was 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:38.240 going to be on because that's how I treated myself. 00:21:38.779 --> 00:21:41.579 That's great. I think that's an excellent example. 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.119 And to me, that's the way it should be. Yeah. 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.440 So for someone that says, this is all great. 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:49.480 Everything we've talked about, it's just too 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.019 late for me. I've lived a lot of my life and 00:21:52.019 --> 00:21:54.609 I just don't think this could work for me what 00:21:54.609 --> 00:21:57.230 would you how would you respond to that it's 00:21:57.230 --> 00:22:01.750 never too late if your organs can regenerate 00:22:01.750 --> 00:22:05.750 after so many months if your skin what is it 00:22:05.750 --> 00:22:08.609 like 10 days or something your skin regenerates 00:22:08.609 --> 00:22:13.609 we were built to regenerate it is in our dna 00:22:15.170 --> 00:22:19.569 Our brains regenerate. It is in our DNA. And 00:22:19.569 --> 00:22:22.869 so it is never too late. I wasn't like all the 00:22:22.869 --> 00:22:26.150 tools I'm talking about and this ideas of my 00:22:26.150 --> 00:22:29.529 perfect toolbox. And I wasn't always in that. 00:22:30.049 --> 00:22:33.529 I chose the wrong guy. Men up until the age of 00:22:33.529 --> 00:22:37.470 38, I was always choosing or 35. I was always 00:22:37.470 --> 00:22:40.589 choosing the wrong guy. I was married and divorced 00:22:40.589 --> 00:22:46.539 twice by the age of 30. Yeah, so here I am in 00:22:46.539 --> 00:22:50.700 this space of failed businesses and I can't make 00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:54.079 the right decisions and you can always regenerate 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:58.099 no matter how long it's been. It is never too 00:22:58.099 --> 00:23:01.359 late. And I know that might sound so simple that 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:03.819 it's never too late, but I always like to think 00:23:03.819 --> 00:23:06.359 of the concept everything regenerate you clip 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.099 your fingernails today. They're going to grow. 00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:14.509 So in so it's in your DNA. to continue to grow. 00:23:14.509 --> 00:23:18.890 It's in your DNA to continue to shift and evolve. 00:23:19.410 --> 00:23:24.269 Yes. And it's all about surrender. That's what 00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:28.829 it is. That's so true. Yeah. Letting go of those 00:23:28.829 --> 00:23:32.049 things that don't serve us. Yeah. Whatever attachment 00:23:32.049 --> 00:23:35.710 or whatever the circumstances. So true. So if 00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:39.259 there's one piece of wisdom you wish Every woman 00:23:39.259 --> 00:23:43.680 over 50 knew about her power and potential. Is 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.839 there anything that you would say to that? Well, 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:50.859 first, I always like to let people know that 00:23:50.859 --> 00:23:55.539 they are the most important piece to the puzzle 00:23:55.539 --> 00:24:03.000 of their life. Your wellbeing, your self care, 00:24:03.390 --> 00:24:08.049 Will be a reflection will be reflected in your 00:24:08.049 --> 00:24:11.369 finances. It'll be reflected in your relationships 00:24:11.369 --> 00:24:18.210 and if you Choose to put yourself first Everything 00:24:18.210 --> 00:24:20.829 else will fall in line and I like to give the 00:24:20.829 --> 00:24:25.009 example of They always say give give from a full 00:24:25.009 --> 00:24:29.910 cup But imagine there's a cup sitting on a saucer 00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:35.390 and you're pouring water into that cup you only 00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:41.609 give from the overflow that has poured over into 00:24:41.609 --> 00:24:46.190 the saucer. So you have to fill your cup to where 00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:51.289 it is overflowing and everyone else gets what's 00:24:51.289 --> 00:24:56.089 in the saucer. They don't get from the cup. Yes. 00:24:56.690 --> 00:25:02.630 And I would just challenge everyone to walk through 00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:07.309 life day to day, wake up in the morning and say, 00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:13.390 how can I fill my cup today? How can I fill my 00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:17.529 cup? Making yourself a priority, right? Yeah. 00:25:17.750 --> 00:25:22.319 Yeah. Your family's gonna get the most amazing 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.380 parts of you. They're gonna get this overflow. 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.720 Your friends are gonna get the most amazing parts 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.859 of you. The one example is if I go try to hang 00:25:29.859 --> 00:25:32.740 out with friends when I'm depleted, I am not 00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:37.019 that cool. I'm not that cool, no? Yeah, I'll 00:25:37.019 --> 00:25:39.460 put on the front. You know, you put it on the 00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:43.609 happy face. But I am so much more fun when my 00:25:43.609 --> 00:25:45.990 cup is so overflowing, where I might've missed 00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:48.490 the last two events because I was depleted and 00:25:48.490 --> 00:25:50.569 I'm like, yeah, no, I'm pouring into myself today. 00:25:50.849 --> 00:25:53.549 And when I get to them, finally they're getting 00:25:53.549 --> 00:25:58.650 the overflow. That's fun. That's the fun, Natasha. 00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:02.869 That's right. It's when I'm creative, I'm not 00:26:02.869 --> 00:26:07.329 held back by fears. I am just there, present 00:26:07.329 --> 00:26:10.410 in the moment and enjoying it. Yeah. You're not 00:26:10.410 --> 00:26:12.150 thinking, oh my goodness, I should be at home 00:26:12.150 --> 00:26:14.829 doing this thing. Oh, I forgot to put that in 00:26:14.829 --> 00:26:17.869 the dryer. You're not doing any of that. That's 00:26:17.869 --> 00:26:20.970 right. That's exactly right. What great wisdom. 00:26:21.549 --> 00:26:24.950 And I so appreciate you sharing your experience 00:26:24.950 --> 00:26:27.130 and part of your journey with us today. What 00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:29.849 would be a way or the best way for anyone to, 00:26:29.849 --> 00:26:31.750 if they wanted to connect with you, what's the 00:26:31.750 --> 00:26:35.069 best way for them to do that? I see. It's so 00:26:35.069 --> 00:26:36.910 funny. I've turned into a millennial. I think 00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:41.250 I say go to my Instagram and DM me. Natasha, 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:44.890 Natasha McCray, Natasha McCray anywhere. You 00:26:44.890 --> 00:26:48.210 can go to my website, natashamcray .com and DM 00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:51.809 me as well. But I say go to IG and DM me. And 00:26:51.809 --> 00:26:55.789 I have a couple of links to free self -care rituals 00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:59.869 and I make sure that you have that. Just one 00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:01.630 more thing before we close, I was just thinking, 00:27:02.049 --> 00:27:04.349 with the launch of your new brand, the whiskey, 00:27:04.589 --> 00:27:07.450 what's the next step there? Where is that going? 00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:10.950 Oh, yeah. So Jackson McCray, we got into market 00:27:10.950 --> 00:27:15.970 October 2023. And just the beginning of this 00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:19.089 year, we are now in all California total wines, 00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:21.650 as well as some other wine and spirit shops around 00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:25.529 California. And we're also available e -commerce 00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:29.829 in 46 states. So if you go to Jackson McCrae 00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:33.829 Whiskey, then you can see the link of everywhere 00:27:33.829 --> 00:27:36.289 that we are available. Or if you're not in the 00:27:36.289 --> 00:27:40.019 state of California, you can order it. Wonderful. 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.039 That is so exciting. I'm so happy for you. And 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:46.299 you're such a beautiful example of someone who 00:27:46.299 --> 00:27:50.059 has truly recreated their life in every way and 00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:54.019 being true to yourself and not being held back 00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.859 by any fears, going after those things you want 00:27:56.859 --> 00:27:59.740 to go after. And I just, I'd love to see that. 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.900 I'd love to see women who are unafraid to just 00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:07.720 be them, be in that space and just go for it, 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.799 whatever it is. this. I thank you so much as 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.640 someone asked me one time what is your greatest 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.039 fear and I said I'm a fear itself. Fear itself 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.160 is so paralyzing and that freaks me out and sometimes 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.000 that works in my favor and other times I jump 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.680 the gun because I'm like I don't want to get 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.480 paralyzed and it might be too soon, but I rather 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.170 air on that side then looking up. five, 10 years 00:28:33.170 --> 00:28:36.109 from now and having a laundry list of things 00:28:36.109 --> 00:28:38.289 that I didn't believe in myself enough to go 00:28:38.289 --> 00:28:41.490 after. Yeah. Oh, I'm right there with you. That's 00:28:41.490 --> 00:28:45.690 so true. Thank you again so much, Natasha. You're 00:28:45.690 --> 00:28:48.130 wonderful. I know that our listeners are going 00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:50.410 to get so much out of everything that you have 00:28:50.410 --> 00:28:52.769 shared with us today. So thank you. Thank you 00:28:52.769 --> 00:28:55.839 so much, Michelle. 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