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Welcome to her comeback, transforming your life

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after 50. I'm your host, Michelle Thompson. If

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you've ever whispered to yourself, there has

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to be more than this. You are in the right place.

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This show is for women over 50 who have hit their

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breaking point and are finally ready to stop

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going at it alone. You've tried the self -help

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box, the vision boards, positive thinking, but

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you're still stuck. And here's what I know. You're

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not broken. You just need the right support.

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And that's exactly what you're going to find

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here. Each week, I'll sit down with incredible

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women who have transformed their lives. You'll

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hear their real stories, the messy middle, the

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breakthrough moments, the practical steps that

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they took to create the lives that they love.

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Because your lowest limit, it can be your launching

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pad. So if you're done settling and ready for

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your comeback, Stay with me. Let's discover how

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other women have made it happen and how you can

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too. Are you ready? This is her comeback. We

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are so lucky and fortunate to have with us Annie

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Meehan. She is an international speaker and author

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and just so exciting. So, Annie, just tell us

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a little bit more about yourself before we get

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started here. So I am Annie Meehan. I live in

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Southwest Florida most of the time, in central

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Florida part of the time. I'm a CSP, which means

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I'm a certified speaking professional. I've written

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11 books. I'm mentally starting my 12th. And

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more than anything, I do work that really shows

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people how to heal mentally, emotionally, and

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physically so they can live the most successful

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life they ever imagined, whether that's in relationships

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or it's in health or it's in their career or

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earnings or whatever they want. That's what I

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got to do. Great stuff. Awesome. Awesome. And

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you also have a signature talk, a trademark about

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being a pineapple person. Tell me about that.

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Yes, I am known as a pineapple person. In fact,

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somebody last week Googled pineapple person and

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they're like, it's you. You are the pineapple

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person. I really am always looking for two things,

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Michelle. I'm always looking for easy ways to.

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learn and teach and I'm also looking for ways

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to be memorable and so and to spread kindness

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and so what I thought about is like kindness

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it's like just say be kind it's easy to forget

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but if I can give you a visual and so the pineapple

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became our symbol our vision so a lot of people

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have heard the pineapple poem be a pineapple

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stand up straight wear a crown be sweet on the

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inside so it's kind of cute and it's a poem and

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it kind of reminds us to be kind but I took the

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poem And I dug into it and said, how do we take

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the poem and make it a principle? And what happened

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was that the first thing is stand up straight

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and just that simple movement from down to up

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with confidence. First of all, as a woman, I

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always say put your shoulders back, be confident

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in yourself, look people in the eye, own your

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space, take up space, but also with the value

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of people. Instead of looking down their phone

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to text, we look at people. And it literally

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transforms relationships, professional and personal

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relationships, by just looking up. somebody called

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me a pineapple, then they taught me the poem,

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then I turned it into a principle, then I wrote

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a book about it, then people heard about it and

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invited me to do a TED talk, and today I'm kind

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of known as the pineapple person. And you may

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see me in a pineapple onesie or eating a pineapple

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cookie, but I'm always trying to remind people

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one simple symbol of a pineapple reminds us slow

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down and offer more kindness. Awesome. I love

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that. I love that. So As we look at women and

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as we aspire to do all the many things that we're

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trying to do in our lives today, how can a woman

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be the exception as they become all they're meant

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to be and then try to support others as they

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climb to? How can we do all of that? Absolutely.

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I always think about like one word. And it requires

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slowness. I think slow to go fast. So you got

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to slow down and think intentionally. How do

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I want to show up today? How do I want to show

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up? Period. Then how do I want to show up for

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other people? And then how do I want to move

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forward? So my, I feel like my growing up years

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are my climbing years. I spent nine years in

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the financial world on the institutional trading

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side. And my floor that I worked on was about

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440 people and 20 of us were women. So really

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strong, successful, male dominated space. And

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I would watch women shrink, including myself.

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I was in my 20s and watch me shrink and write.

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I think being the exception is like deciding

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to rewrite any stories that don't serve us so

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that a man has more worth than us, that a man

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deserves to be paid more than us. I remember

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one woman I met there. She had worked there a

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long time and she said in 1979 she was called

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back into the boss's office and he said, listen,

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I'm going to give all the guys a raise. But are

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you OK if I don't give you a raise? And she said,

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Well, how come I don't get a raise? And he said,

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well, you're not married and you don't have any

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kids, so you don't really need a raise. And she

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said, OK, that makes sense. And she didn't get

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a raise. And today, she says, what in the world?

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And that was 1979. I know some of your listeners

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probably weren't even around in 1979. But for

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those of us that are middle -aged that were,

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it crushes my heart. And so part of being the

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exception for me is one of the first things I

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tell people is be honest. And I said, I'm not

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talking about lying. I'm talking about the stories

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that we tell in the back of our head are out

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of our mouth that don't serve us. Well, Michelle's

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better than me. Well, John's married. Well, they

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have greater success. Well, they're smarter.

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They have more degrees. all of those stories

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that do not serve us. Wait a minute, that's not

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true. Michelle might have that gift and John

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might have that one, but I have value too. And

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so part of being the exception for me was transforming

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my brain, transforming my thoughts. And whether

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I ever spoke them out, other people could look

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at me and say, Annie, so confident. But if inside

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I was like, I'm not measuring up. I'm not as

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good as this person or that. I don't deserve

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to be paid as much. It was not serving me. So

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part of being the exception for me was filtering,

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I think of a strainer, filtering every thought

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I have, catching captive every thought, right?

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Having that strainer and saying, does this serve

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me or does it make me suffer? Does this make

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me stand out or does it make me play small? And

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I think as women that, well, I'll get to me.

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It's not my turn. Or maybe they deserve it more.

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Maybe they're better looking. Maybe they're smarter.

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Maybe they're more successful. No, no, no. I

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have great value. We all have great strength

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and great value. So be the exception is kind

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of seven keys, but the main one I would say to

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women is think about what you're talking about

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to yourself. When you look in the mirror, do

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you just think, oh my gosh, I am so beautiful?

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Or do you rip yourself apart? And one thing I

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learned on my journey was I did not like myself

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as pretty much the first 20 years of my life.

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I didn't like how I looked. I didn't like who

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I was. I didn't want to just be like other people.

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I wanted to be anyone else. And when I decided

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I'm kind of amazing. Not more amazing than anyone

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else, but amazing. Each and every person has

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so many gifts and so much to contribute. Like,

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I showed up differently. I knew that I deserved

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to take up space. So people call me short. I

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call myself fun size. But I take up space. I

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intentionally stand with my shoulders back up

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straight. I speak up. I know that I have something

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worth being heard. And I think it's easy to get

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in your mind. Nobody cares. Nobody will listen.

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That's stupid. Nobody else. You deserve a voice.

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I had to learn. I deserve to be seen. I deserve

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to be heard. I am not the worst thing that ever

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happened to the world. I have gifts, and though

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I'm messy and complicated and silly, and I might

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not be everybody's cup of tea, I have value.

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And that, Michelle, for me, especially when I'm

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working with women, I say, ladies. Stop telling

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yourself horrible things. Stop spending so much

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time on this and spend time on this and on this

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and contribute. And even if you think what you

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have to say doesn't have value, someone else

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needs it. And it just shifted me. It really made

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me be the exception. Don't follow, don't stand

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behind, don't doubt yourself. Even if I laugh

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at you and think, oh, that's the dumbest thing

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I've heard, who cares? You said it, move on,

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right? And so being brave, rewriting stories,

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being kind to myself, gentle to myself, courageous,

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bold, authentic, all of those things serve me

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very much as a speaker and a coach and a writer,

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people will say. You're the real deal, aren't

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you? And I'm like, 100%. I don't even know how

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to be fake. I told someone the other day, I'm

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like, I wish I could sometimes, but I just, I

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don't have it in me. So that's what. That's so

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true. And I definitely, in the time that I've

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known you, Annie, it's, you're so authentic.

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It's just like, I love it. And it's just every

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conversation with you. I just feel like it's

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always from the heart and it's, it's just, I

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think you're fabulous. So as life shows up, we

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all know we have the bad days, the tough times,

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the disruptions come into our lives. How do you

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yourself manage those disruptions and not let

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that define you and soar above those things that

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happen? It seems like they've been happening.

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I was talking to a friend this morning. I said,

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since I moved to Florida, I'm like, never mind.

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Pretty much my whole life I've had disruption.

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So yesterday I was doing a Facebook Live. I was

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so happy. I had a friend visiting from Minnesota.

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We're riding in the golf cart. Greg's able to

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drive again since his triple bypass. We're going

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to church. I am just so happy. I'm doing a Facebook

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Live. Life is so glorious. And literally it ended.

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And my husband goes, I think something's wrong.

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And he's like, we got to stop. And I jump off

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the golf cart and I have a flat tire. And we're

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just like, oh my gosh. We can't even go five

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minutes from a house for to church and I I say

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that to say I learned to laugh at myself I learned

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to not take myself too seriously My faith is

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the most important thing to me and so I start

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my day with God and God says I have good plans

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for you I'm like if you could help those come

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a little quicker. I am ready like come on Could

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I have like three weeks of no no disruptions?

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Intention. I go back to intention. Starting my

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day in quiet. Starting my day in prayer. Having

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really beautiful intentional relationships. Yesterday,

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before we were headed to church, I have a very

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dear friend that I've been friends with for 40

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years here visiting me. She just left this morning.

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Beautiful. That intentional time. My husband

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and I went for a beautiful two -mile walk. He

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can walk two miles again. Like, I try to shift

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focus, right? Like, so there's always... Sadly,

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for most of us, there's always a list of things

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that aren't going how we imagined, that aren't

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living up to our expectations, that are not a

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smooth, straight line from, I start a business,

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I have a thousand customers, right? But if I

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say to myself, Annie, it doesn't really matter.

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So what? So there's another disruption, another

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flat tire, another health concern, another, I

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have a sister in the hospital right now, just

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these things that keep coming up. And I think,

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what is the part you can do? What is the part

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that I can do to spread love in the midst of

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the disruption. How do I keep my sense of humor?

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How do I keep loving on the people God has given

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me to love or my audiences? How do I shift from

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this disruption I'm in into what next? So when

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I wrote the book Choose to Soar kind of inspired

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by Hurricane Ian, the literal disruption what

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I thought about is that every day we get to decide

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how we show up Michelle and like when people

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say who are you do I lead with all the tragedy

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and trauma that I've gone through or do I think

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I'm this extraordinary speaker that gets to travel

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the world and make people inspired and show them

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light and love in the face of their own challenge

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and disruption and so I try to focus on the good

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I try to be grateful I try to be generous I try

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to laugh at myself and say Well, isn't that ironic?

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Because I was talking about what a fabulous day

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I'm having, you know, fabulously beautiful it

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is in Florida and then flat tire. And I always

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go back to Job in the Bible and like all the

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things that happened to him. And he's like, I'm

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not giving up. And it's like, are you sure? You

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know, like, I just feel like all of us have things

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that will come against us. But if we decide I

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will look for the good, I will be the good and

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I will spread the good. It changes you. You can't

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help but soar above. And, you know, I get to

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go speak to realtors on Wednesday. I get to have

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a friend here. My husband's healing. Like, there's

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so much good in the face of also a lot of disruption,

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but I'd rather look for the good. That's how

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I guess. As I hear you talking about that, I

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just hear the gratitude. So how much do you think

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that gratitude is able to play into kind of being

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able to go with it with the disruption? How do

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you see that? Yeah, 100 % and so what I would

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say is that I am a person that. When a lot of

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people say, why me, God, about tragedies that

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come at them, I always say to God, why me? Why

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do I get to live at the beach? Why do I get to

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have a husband that's loyal and loving to me?

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Why do I get to have three healthy adult children?

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Why do I get to have a career that I love and

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travel the world and make an impact? So I always

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think, if we're going to question our blessing,

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why do we not question, or if we're gonna question

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our burden, why do we not question our blessing?

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Like, who are we? So yes, gratitude's a huge

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part of it. I also totally know whatever we focus

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on expands, and I meet so many people that get

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stuck focused on the disruption, and then it

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expands, and all we see is what we lost. But

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I really try to broaden and focus on what did

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I gain? I gained a friend through that. I gained

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compassion. I gained connection, community. And

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so I say gratitude, yes, be grateful for what

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I have and then live beyond it. So for me, it's

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about gratitude and then generosity. So I am

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grateful for what I have. But then I ask, how

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can I expand? So my dear friend that was here

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had just lost her mother recently, actually the

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day my husband went in the hospital. So I couldn't

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be with her for the funeral. And I said, I'm

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so sorry I can't be there. She's been such a

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dear friend. And she was there when my mom died

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last December. when you can come visit us so

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she came to the villages which is where we live

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at this moment and i said what do you want to

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do you want to go out dancing so we went out

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dancing you want to go out for drinks no not

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really i want to go out for ice cream and i want

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to go dancing so gratitude first but then beyond

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so then go do something for someone else which

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really helps me shift because she's single and

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she just lost her mom and her mom was like my

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mom who struggled with mental health and addiction

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and depression and so I got to go love on her

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and we got big sundaes and we giggled and you

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know we forgot to take pictures and you know

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we joke about getting out of the car is painful

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and so yes first being grateful for what I do

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have and how far we have come and how every day

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is a gift but then asking how do I make this

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day meaningful by loving on someone else and

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encouraging someone else so that's That's great.

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Awesome. I love that. So you mentioned a little

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bit about climbing The latter, so to speak, that

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everyone talks about in the corporate world with

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it being so male dominated. We've also talked

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about, you know, having the confidence that yes,

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you, you deserve to be that to get that promotion.

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You have value and all the things that you bring

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to the table. Is there anything else you can

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share about that? Or maybe there's some women

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out there that are thinking it's just really

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hard for me to speak up and to say my value and

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to really bring verbalize that. What suggestions

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might you give them? Anything else you could

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tell them? Yeah, I just thought of something

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as you asked, Michelle, is that one really important

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tip for all women is find one really good friend.

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Just one. You don't need 20, just one really

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good friend. One really good friend that tells

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you the truth. The ugly truth sometimes, but

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the truth. One really good friend that will laugh

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with you and at you when you make a fool of yourself

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that you can call and say, oh my gosh, I spoke

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up and everyone thought I was an idiot. Who cares?

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Do it again tomorrow. But you need an ally. You

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need somebody to talk through that with. And

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this girlfriend actually that was visiting, we

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used to do walking therapy at the Mall of America.

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So every Monday night we'd meet for four hours

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and we'd walk and we'd talk. We wouldn't spend

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money. We'd just walk and talk. And it was so

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good. We'd talk about our hopes, our dreams,

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our embarrassments, our struggles, support each

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other, encourage each other. So first, find a

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really good friend. Second, just do it. There

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is a lot of statistics about this. I don't want

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to quote wrong, but I know that men it's somewhere

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between 20 and 50 % of what the requirements

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are will apply. Though if they have 20 % of what

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it says, they'll put their name in the hat. Women

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are about 80 % and higher before they put their

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name in the hat. We gotta shift that ladies.

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Come on ladies. Put your name in the hat. Get

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rejected like I tell people my favorite hobby.

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HR directors don't love me for this, but is applying

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for jobs. because it builds confidence. It actually

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builds confidence. And I don't even always want

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the job. I want to know that I know how to answer

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a question when I'm nervous, when I'm intimidated.

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So it's a great practice to put your name in

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a hat for a job, less qualified and more qualified,

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and just to practice to build that muscle, right?

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So anything we do, reps on repetition, we get

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stronger. So I like to apply for jobs, but I

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often applied for jobs in the financial world

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that I was not qualified for, and I often got

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them. And I think the reason why is because I

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spoke clearly and confidently learning language,

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learning your voice. I sometimes want to work

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with people just on how to articulate, how to

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look up, how to answer a question confidently,

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because a confident answer, right or wrong, is

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more received than I think it's the sort of even

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if you're more right. So being confident, having

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your posture, having your voice. Doing some self

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-affirmation of I deserve to be heard. I deserve

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to speak up. I deserve to my daughter's meeting

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with her company It's in the construction field

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and she got invited into the round tables kind

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of with the CEO and at first like I don't know

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why I'm going or I'm That's not my position and

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she's like now they're like asking me and she

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goes I kind of just want to listen and now she's

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speaking up more and more Find a mentor inside

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your workplace and say I do want to climb the

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ladder I got five promotions in nine years in

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the financial world, but I looked always look

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for the helpers look for them mentors. Oh my

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gosh, Michelle seems really kind. Wow, she's

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an executive. I'm going to see if she'll go to

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lunch with me. I'm going to learn from her and

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say, I'm grateful for the job I have, but I see

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myself going somewhere. What are some tips? What

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are seek? um advice seek wisdom seek encouragement

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also 20 minutes with the mentors plenty don't

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always ask them for an hour because their plate's

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pretty full but could i get 20 minutes with you

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can i buy you a cup of coffee and talk to you

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for 20 minutes so seek advisors get a great ally

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friend outside because you're gonna make a fool

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of yourself and some people are gonna think you're

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goofy who cares go to that friend and say i think

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i screwed up today okay Go back again tomorrow.

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Put your name in the hat, even when you're not

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qualified for practice. And also you might be

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surprised you might get that promotion. Get volunteer.

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I'm such a huge believer in, you know, when they

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sign up to. paint a house for Habitat for Humanity,

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get involved in that, do the things that your

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company does, get involved, volunteer, lead something,

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lead a lunch, go to the learning lunch when there's

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opportunities to learn, continue to learn, grow,

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read. They say leaders are readers. I believe

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that leaders are learners, and I think we all

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learn differently. So you can read books, go

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to a conference, listen to something, lead something.

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I started my own groups, whether it was Bunko,

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Bible Study, or Women's leadership, I would just

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start things and invite two or three people and

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expand a networking group. What do we have in

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common at lunch? Different opportunities. So

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lots of different things, but more than anything,

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believe in yourself and put yourself out there,

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even if you make a fool of yourself. That's what

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I say. That's all. I think that's awesome. I

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think that's great advice. And then when that

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imposter syndrome slips in, when you have that

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moment of like, Oh my God, what am I doing here?

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What do you tell yourself in those moments? Okay.

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Will you play a little game with me, Michelle?

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Sure. Absolutely. I'm going to make you think

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on your feet. So I want you to answer three questions

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and it's worth four points for you. Okay. Okay.

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I know it's your interview and talk show, but

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let's see how you do on this. Cause I'm going

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to, I always think it better to show than teach

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people to tell, to show them and tell. So I want

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you to tell me what's your favorite author book

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just off the top of your head. The first thing

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you think of Mel Robbins. Okay. Who's your favorite

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speaker? It could be somebody you saw live at

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a conference or on a TED Talk or somebody listening

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on a podcast. Simon Sinek. Okay. And what's your

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favorite quote? Like what's some someone you

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quote or something you like to quote? Yeah. If

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you want things you have never had, you got to

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do things you've never done. I think that that

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is anonymous, but yeah, I love that. Beautiful.

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So what I like to tell people is when I'm doing

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a women's leadership, I do a lot of mixed audiences

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or all men sometimes. But when I'm doing all

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women, I always start with that pop quiz. And

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there's a reason. Because remember, I told you

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it's four points, but three questions. What I'm

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looking for, ladies, is I'm looking for you to

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quote a woman, to tell me a woman speaker, and

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to tell me a woman book. And really, the fourth

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bonus point is to quote yourself or your book

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or your speaking. And here's why ladies, I love,

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I love men. I have an amazing husband, two beautiful

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sons. but I watch women tell me they're empowerment

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women, they're leadership women, and then I watch

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them quote male after male after male, recommend

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a man's book, a man speaker, offer men more to

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speak than women. I thought the speaking world

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would be very different than the financial, and

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there'd be more women than men, and women would

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get paid equal if not more. That's not true.

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There's definitely more men than women, and men

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are offered more money to speak than women, and

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men demand more money than women. Women will

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speak for free. 100 times more often than men,

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90 times more often than men. So what I like

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to teach, Michelle, just like you did, is it's

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not a right or wrong answer. It's an awareness.

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Oh my gosh. I love that you said Mel Rotman's

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like, let's elevate women. If I'm a woman that

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teaches women to lead and to be empowered, then

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I better be speaking highly about women. I better

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be saying, do you know my friend Michelle? She's

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amazing. You should see her speak. You should

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get on your podcast. You should coach with her.

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Because if we are referring, And if we are recommending,

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and if we are elevating, then let's do it with

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women. And I can't take 100 % credit for this

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though. I've become more and more aware of it

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over the last 20 years. But when I wrote my second

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book, Be the Exception, what happened is that

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I was coaching with someone. I always have a

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coach when I write a book because my brain is

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broad and I sometimes need a little focus and

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dyslexia. And she said to me, you have had so

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many... amazing quotes. So many nuggets that

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I've written down that you've said, Annie, over

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the six months we worked together. And she said,

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can I put some in the book? Can we add these

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to the book? I think they're beautiful. I said,

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oh yeah, that'd be great. I love quotes. And

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she said, do you want to add other quotes? And

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I said, absolutely. And she is in the publishing

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world. And so she said, do you know that most

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quotes in books are dead white men? And, you

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know, even the books that are written by women

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are dead men. And there's some extraordinary

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male speakers out there and authors and coaches

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and all the things. I agree. But if we do not

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start elevating, the reason we have imposter

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syndrome is because we don't hear enough women

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elevated. The reason we have imposter syndrome

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is because I myself go, Michelle's okay, but

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I'm better. because we are not elevating each

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other. And when we start to go, oh my gosh, I

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am an amazing coach, but you gotta meet my friend

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Michelle, because I'm kind of, my plate's full,

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she's amazing. When we start elevating each other

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and we start lifting up other women and referring

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other women and as. Women meeting planners and

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as women executives, we hire women and we don't

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bully women. We celebrate women. You're balancing

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family and your job. Congratulations. I'm going

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to work with you. I'm going to be flexible with

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you, not because you're a woman, but because

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I want you to be successful in my company. And

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that's what I really love to show women is to

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have that awareness. How are you speaking about

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other women? When someone says, hey, Michelle,

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do you know any great speakers? Do you know a

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great book? Are we talking about other women?

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Because trust me. Men are referring men. And

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occasionally, there are male allies that are

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referring women. But for the most part, they

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are referring other men. And I know, because

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I hang out with a lot of professional speakers,

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and I know who they refer. And I work with them,

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and I'll ask them, oh, I told you this. And so

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as women, if you want to get over imposter syndrome,

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start to value yourself. And other women, start

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to elevate and speak highly behind women's backs.

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I would say, I spoke about you behind your back.

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Let me just tell you, I did it in the most beautiful

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way. Let's do that. Awesome. I love that. Break

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the imposter center. Yeah. Oh, that's amazing.

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Thank you for that. I mean, gosh, just so inspiring.

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So I will be looking up and finding my favorite

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quote from a woman now. You better believe it.

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Mine is Maya Angelou. It is not what we say or

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what we do, but it's how we make people feel.

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that they will never forget. That is Maya Angelou,

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a beautiful woman, and so there's so many great

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quotes, so I can't wait to hear next time I see

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you. What's your favorite book, your favorite

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quote? Absolutely, thank you so much. Is there

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anything else that you might say to... Say a

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woman like us in our fifties that they've just

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always done things one way the same way, and

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they're just in a little comfort zone and just

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really afraid to step out and try something to

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do something different, be something different.

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Anything else you might say to a woman in a spot

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like that. Yeah, for sure. I always pretend to

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be my 20s, but I think I'm 28 and all my kids

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about age me, but I'm 57. And the first thing

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I thought of Michelle is give yourself a lot

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of grace. You are extraordinary. You have survived

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over 50 years in this challenging world. Many

00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:54.819
of you have bore children. What a miracle. Many

00:25:54.819 --> 00:25:57.119
of you have given them deep roots and now you've

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given them wings to fly and now you miss them

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and you wonder what your identity is. Give yourself

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a lot of grace and dream, dream big. Imagine

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if tomorrow's my last day, have I made a big

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enough impact? Have I encouraged enough? Have

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I loved enough myself? And one thing I know about

00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:14.750
middle -aged women is there's so much Oh my gosh,

00:26:14.849 --> 00:26:16.789
20 year olds telling us how to be skinny and

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how to be this and how to be that. And just like,

00:26:18.369 --> 00:26:20.869
really, I have had five pregnancies. Please don't

00:26:20.869 --> 00:26:23.450
tell me to do my, maybe my calorie deficit. Like,

00:26:23.450 --> 00:26:25.690
stop it. You need to intermittent fast. Stop

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it. Like, what about my value as a human being?

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So first, grace. Second, dream. And third, get

00:26:32.089 --> 00:26:34.970
with, again, a coach, an ally and encourage her

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and say, this is what I'm at this job. I've been

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here 20 years. I've been here. My kids have grown

00:26:39.049 --> 00:26:41.549
up. Wherever you're at in your life. I kind of

00:26:41.549 --> 00:26:44.019
have this vision. kind of have this and share

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it out loud, articulate it with somebody who

00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:48.579
is safe before you start putting it into practice.

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But the world is your oyster is what I want to

00:26:51.819 --> 00:26:56.039
say, but really just be, get support, dream big

00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:58.880
and imagine what is my legacy. I always say every

00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.519
day we're building our legacy. So you're at middle

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age and there's a lot of noise in the world that

00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.339
you're irrelevant or you're going to gain 50

00:27:05.339 --> 00:27:06.740
pounds or you're going to have menopause and

00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:08.809
be miserable or you're not good enough. Well,

00:27:08.829 --> 00:27:10.650
that's not a true story. You're extraordinary

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and you have great wisdom and the world needs

00:27:12.650 --> 00:27:15.750
it. And we need face to face connections. So

00:27:15.750 --> 00:27:17.990
get off social media and go knock on a friend's

00:27:17.990 --> 00:27:19.450
door. And when they say their house isn't clean,

00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:22.309
say, I do not care. I love you and I need quality

00:27:22.309 --> 00:27:24.960
time with my girlfriend. So. That's my encouragement

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.980
is just keep dreaming and being all you can be

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and get Michelle as your support if you need

00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.519
it. So yes. Oh, thank you. That is so, so awesome.

00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.180
Inspiring, inspiring. So Annie, for someone who

00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:40.119
would love to reach out to you or connect with

00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.279
you in some way, how, where can they find you?

00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:45.759
Yeah. Annie Meehan is my website and I'm kind

00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.099
of all over social media, but my website's where

00:27:48.099 --> 00:27:52.160
my most videos and encouragement YouTube. Yeah,

00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:54.799
AnnieMehan .com. I've got videos. I've got topics.

00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.220
I've got books. I just, I try to use my written

00:27:58.220 --> 00:28:00.859
and spoken word every day to encourage, inspire,

00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:03.299
and show people to believe in themselves and

00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:05.599
to rewrite those stories that do not serve them

00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.420
because the world needs them. Oh, thank you so

00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.240
much. What a gift. I really appreciate you joining

00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.339
me today and being part of my show. Thank you,

00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.220
Annie. I look forward to seeing just how high

00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:19.940
you will soar and where you'll go. Thank you

00:28:19.940 --> 00:28:23.039
so much for having me. Appreciate you. Thank

00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.099
you so much for spending time with me today.

00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:28.099
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