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LEX18 presents a podcast with hot takes, hot

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topics with your hosts, Megan Manering and Evelyn

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Schulz. This is Hot Mic. Hey there, everyone.

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and welcome to another edition of Hot Mike here

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at LEX 18. We say this every week, but we have

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really leveled up this time. We see this woman

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on the airwaves pretty often, but we're going

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to peel back the curtain a little bit today and

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get to know her better. Please welcome to Hot

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Mike, your Lieutenant Governor Jacqueline Coleman.

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Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Thank

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you for making the time for us. We're excited

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to have you. It was kind of funny. It felt yesterday

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around the newsroom a little bit like. having

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your relatives over for a holiday because it

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was like, is everything clean? We got to get

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the Christmas tree up. We got a new plant. We

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brought in the plant. So thank you for that.

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I really appreciate that. I think it was some

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good incentive to get some stuff done around

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here. Well, thank you for being here. The mic

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is hot. Um, but we promise we won't ask you anything

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too crazy. So to kind of get into it, Lieutenant

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Governor, let's start from the beginning. Where

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did you grow up? Paint the picture for us. Okay.

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So I grew up in the sprawling metropolis of Bergen,

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Kentucky, which is about 30 minutes south of

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Lexington. So, um, for those who know it's close

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to Danville, that's kind of like a good point,

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but is a tiny little town with, uh, we have about

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a thousand people in a four way stop. And that's

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it. And I was still living in Mercer County,

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actually, when the governor asked me to run with

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him. So I've been in rural central Kentucky my

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whole life. Graduated from Mercer County High

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School, went on to Center College and played

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basketball there. When I graduated from there,

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I went on to the University of Louisville to

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get a master's degree in political science. And

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I also worked on the women's basketball team

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at UofL. And then I became a teacher and I started

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kind of full circle back in Bergen. was my first

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teaching job. I was a high school social studies

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teacher, girls basketball coach, and I spent

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most of my career at East Jessamine High School,

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which is of course right outside of Lexington.

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I think it's kind of like growing into each other,

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you know, in Jessamine and Fayette counties.

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I became an assistant principal at Nelson County

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High School, and that's when this guy named Andy

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Beshear called and asked if I wanted to be his

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running mate. So I spent my whole life in rural

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central Kentucky and in the classroom and on

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the basketball court. When you were a child,

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you know, if someone had said to you as a kid

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and when you were studying education in college,

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maybe, and maybe even early on as a teacher,

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if someone had said you're going to have a future.

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State politics, what would you have said? You

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know, so people now will tell me, Oh, I always

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knew that's what you were going to do. I never

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knew that's what I was going to do. No. So like

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to other people, they're not as surprised as

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I am, I think, which is, which is interesting.

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Yeah. What was it like growing up in such a small

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town, the four way stop that had to have been

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kind of a unique upbringing? It really, it really

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was. And it's It was just a great little town.

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It's one of those, it's like I was saying, small

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towns. You know, you know all your neighbors

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and your neighbors know all your business. So

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there is, there's give and take there. But it's

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a great little town and Mercer County was a great

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place to grow up. And then to go to college kind

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of in the county right next door, um, and, and

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to teach then in Jessamine County, I guess I

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got a little bit bigger as I went on, you know,

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um, in, in the towns, but you know, you grow

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up around friends and family and there are people

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I still talk to and keep in touch with today.

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And so I just, I'm very lucky to have been able

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to grow up in a place like that. When you first

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got the call from governor Beshear wanting to

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work together, how do you be his running mate?

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What were you thinking? Okay. So this is a great

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story. So he, so we knew each other because circles

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are small, you know? And so he called one day

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and said, Hey, are you coming to the Capitol?

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Do you want to go grab a cup of coffee? And I

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said, well, I can't today, but I'll let you know

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when I'll be there. And that was like a normal.

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thing. What was not normal was when he called

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me the next day and asked the same thing. And

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I'm like, what do you want? Like, why are you

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bothering me? What is going on? And so my husband

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actually said, Jacqueline, he's going to run

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for governor and he's going to ask you to run

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with him. And I said, Chris, that is crazy. There

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is no, that's not, that's not what's happening.

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And so the funny thing about it is, is when we,

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before we met, I was like, now I can only meet

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at this time because I have bus duty. Right.

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I had to wait to the last bus left the parking

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lot before I could go would leave to go meet

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with him because I was the assistant principal

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at the time. And so I get there and he starts

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talking to me about it. And I I guess my eyes

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kind of got big because he said that, you know,

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the, the first decision I have to make is who

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I want my running mate to be. And he was like,

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did you not think that's what we were talking

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about? And I said, Andy, I just left bus duty.

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No, that is not the conversation I thought we

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were going to have here, but, but that's how

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it started. It's got to be the only time in history

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that. That conversation has started that way,

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but it did. I'm sure you're relating to a lot

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of teachers right now who've been in your shoes.

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They've got a hundred things on their mind. How

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has being in the classroom prepared you for your

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role as Lieutenant Governor? So a lot of people

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think that it's that I have jumped from, from

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one world to another that are completely different.

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And I can see how like you would think that,

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but. Honestly, when we talk about the challenges

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that we face in Kentucky or the things that we're

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trying to get done, I think about the kids in

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my classroom. Right. Because there's no challenge

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that we face in our community that you don't

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also face in the school because schools are like

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microcosms of your communities. And so it's really

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just it, it makes it more personal to me because

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I don't see, you know, a spreadsheet or a statistic.

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I can, if you tell me a challenge, I can tell

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you the kid's name and their family that I met

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that we're dealing with those things. And so.

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I think it brings a little bit more of a personal

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touch to it and it gives you a different understanding

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than maybe people who haven't worked with kids

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and families before. So I've tried to use that

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and to never lose that because I think that's

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so important when it comes to trying to figure

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out how you can help people. Is there something

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that you miss about being in the classroom every

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day? You know, teaching high school kids is not

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for the week, but they are they really every

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day gave me an insight into what was going on

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in the world or what they were hearing. And so

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I miss having that connection, you know, because

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as you talk to kids, you know, my my goal was

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to teach kids. how government was supposed to

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work and then what to do when it doesn't work

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for you. And so just a lot of the conversations

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that we had in class or their feedback always

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kind of gave me an insight to what was being

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said in their household or what they were around

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when they weren't in my classroom. And I miss

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that connection. Yeah. It's funny. I'm the product

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of two public school teachers and it seems like

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high school teachers could say they could never

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teach elementary, elementary teachers say they

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can never do middle school. Is there a grade

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level that you just don't think you could do?

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Well, I was always scared of the little kids

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because like they can smell fear. You know, it's

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like kindergarten call the big kids that I could

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bluff them and they, you know, they were, they

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were fine. That was kind of my niche. But, um,

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I think now that I have a five year old, I feel

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like I might be able to do, um, little kids,

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maybe, maybe, I don't know, but, uh, I don't

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think I could do middle school. Well, even remembering

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what it's like to be a middle schooler, that's

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such a hard time in everyone's life, I think.

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Right. I don't even want to go back to middle

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school. But everybody has their niche and they

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fit it perfectly. And you can almost tell, that

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was my thing I always like to guess in like big

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teachers meetings is like, what grade do you

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teach? I can tell by the way that you act and

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talk and carry yourself and we just all have

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our place. If Governor Beshear were to teach

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a grade, where would you place him? That's a

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good question. What grade level is he giving?

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Senior calculus. I was just telling someone how

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bad I was at calculus. Really? What makes you

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say that? I just think he's really smart. So

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he would be like that calculus teacher. Okay.

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Like the cool teacher that like during study

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hall kids are like eating their lunch in there

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and hanging out. Would he be cool or would he?

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I think he would definitely have his demographic.

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Okay, we all have our little right. Yes, we all

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have there's all there's always kids that kind

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of migrate towards different teachers. And so

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you end up having your own little little crew.

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So I don't I don't think we Hey, you need all

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students to go to play that role in their life.

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And you mentioned your five -year -old daughter.

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I believe she and I share a name. You do. Evelyn,

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too. Would you call her? Does she go have a nickname

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that she goes by? Sometimes Ev or Evy. Just like

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me. That's so funny. Has having a young child

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like that given you a new perspective on leadership

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and politics? Absolutely. It's interesting. I'm

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trying to like correct her or help her understand

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how to teach how to treat other people. Um, I

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just go back to like, Oh, there's some adults

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that need some, you know, reminders of, of this.

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So like, I always think like in my role, would

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I, would I say, or do this in front of my child?

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And if I, if I wouldn't, then I probably shouldn't

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do it. Right. And, and I think that you could

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probably apply that across the board. But I think

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we've lost that somewhere along the way, really.

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But she's a good reminder of not only like, we

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should be examples for our kids in what we say

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and do, but also a reminder of like, what's really

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important. Yeah, kind of keeps you grounded.

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Yeah. Oh, oh, she will do that. Yes, she is darling.

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I've seen your photo. He's adorable. Her teacher

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sent me a picture this morning. She's the teaching

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assistant in class. And so she sent me a picture

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of her and I was like her text her teacher back

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and I said, I can just see the look in her eye

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and she has too much power right now. Like I

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can see it. So maybe she's got a future to lead

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leading the state of Kentucky young leaders.

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When I was doing some research, I learned you

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have this wonderful like blended modern family.

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Tell us about that. Oh, yes, we are about as

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blended as we can be. So My husband, Chris, and

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I met because we were both teachers and basketball

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coaches. So he was coaching the boys team at

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East Jessamine High School, and I was coaching

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the girls team. And people always think that's

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cute and it's not. Because all it means is that

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you fight over gym time, right? And so when we

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got married, he was a package deal. I got Will

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and Nate with him. And so I have two bonus sons.

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And then not long after that, actually one of

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my basketball players became a part of our family

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and we adopted Emma. And so we had those three

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for a while until then I had Evelyn. And so the

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age range though is wild. So Emma is 28. And

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when I tell people I have a 28 year old, they

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kind of look at me sideways and I'm like, no,

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I didn't have her. I acquired her. And then Will

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and Nate are 24 and 22 and then Evelyn's five.

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So there's a huge gap there, but it's, you know,

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adopted, you know, I call the boys my bonus sons

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and then biological and we're all just one big

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family. How fun to have all those different perspectives

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in your family. That's really cool. It's almost

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like Evelyn has like five parents. That's pretty

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cool. How has adoption changed your life? Oh

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my gosh. It's one of the best things that I ever

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did. I always had a heart for it before, and

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actually Chris and I had started an adoption

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process when we got married. Then Emma moved

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in with us. And so we kind of put it on the shelf

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for a little bit. And then I realized, like,

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maybe this is our adoption, you know? And so

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she actually lived with us. She moved in with

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us when she was a freshman in high school. And

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we did not make the adoption official until her

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senior year of college. And I had just kind of

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always thought, like, you're a part of our family.

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It is what it is and we don't need to do anything

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to make it official unless you want to. And she

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did. And so when we did it, she actually surprised

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me and she changed her last name. I didn't know

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she was going to do that. And so she's now Emma

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Coleman O 'Brien. Yeah. And then Evelyn is Evelyn

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Coleman O 'Brien. And so the guys on our detail

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have nicknamed them Echo One and Echo Two, which

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I think is hilarious. That is funny. Yeah. What

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was that like when she told you that? she was

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going to change her name. It was like, I mean,

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listen, when you've taken a 14 year old redheaded

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teenage girl, and you've never had, you know,

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a child before, and you don't know what you're

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doing, it was we had some hard times along the

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way. And so when she came, uh, came around and

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said she wanted to do that and change her name.

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I was just like, Oh my gosh, it's all, it's all

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worth it. You know, it was just, it was just

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very sweet of her to do that. That's really cool.

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Yeah. I know not every educator is out there

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adopting a student or a player, but I think it

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does go to show that our educators have such

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a heart for kids and making sure that they're

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in a loving home. Can you just speak to how maybe

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teaching doesn't stop, you know, when that last

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bell rings, right? No. And that's the thing is

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like you, you, this is not a job you clock in

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and clock out of, right? Like you, you carry

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it with you. You think about it all the time.

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You're either wrapping up the day or you're preparing

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for the next one. And, you know, kids are in

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your room all the time. They're in there before

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school and after school. And, and especially

00:14:23.529 --> 00:14:25.350
when you're a coach, you have kind of like a

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different level of relationships with students

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because it's outside of school. But yeah, it's

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it. Being a teacher was one of the, I could tell

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it was something I was meant to do. And I felt

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every year like I could have, I always like kind

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of reflected on the year and thought, gosh, I

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wasn't really. good enough, I need to be better

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next year. And then I would feel like I was doing

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better. And then the next year, I'd be like,

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gosh, I wasn't really good. And so it's always

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like you're the goalpost is always moving. And

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you never feel like you're good enough. But you're

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always getting better is the goal. And so I would

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say I want to go back to my first year students

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and just say, I'm so sorry. You know, I just

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was new. I was trying and I wasn't as good as

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I should have been. But I tried to be better

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every year. And that's that's the nature of being

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a teacher. Yeah, we're all learning as we go

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along. That's right. Yes. Yes, we are. Well,

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you know, you talk about jobs that you never

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turn off. You're a working mom. So many working

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moms out there, working parents in general. What

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do you think the state of Kentucky can do better

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to support working moms? So much. There's just

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so many barriers out there that exist. And it's

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one of those things where if we keep doing what

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we've always done, we're just going to get what

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we've always gotten. And so if we want to improve

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workforce participation rates, if we want to

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improve cultures of workplaces and family life,

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then we've got to think differently. And so one

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of the things that I have pushed for since we

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got elected was Pre -K for All. And so we're

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working on that for Pre -K for All four -year

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-olds in Kentucky. I actually was able to push

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to make sure that we got paid family leave in

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the executive branch for the first time. And,

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you know, when I'm talking to the governor about

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these things, I'm like, listen, like if we're,

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if we need the private sector to do these things,

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then we got to put our money where our mouth

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is too. And so we got paid family leave. We're

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working on childcare for executive branch employees

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and are very excited about, you know, some potentials

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that are upcoming there. And so just making it

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to where people can Go to work and not worry

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about where their kids are or what they're doing

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They know they're safe and taken care of and

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like that might seem like such a small thing

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but You can put people's mind at ease and you

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can improve worker productivity at the same time

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because things are being taken care of So those

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are all things that that I'm trying to work towards

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in the executive branch or that we've gotten

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done already that we also want to then push our

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private sector to either do it themselves or

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help us with it as well. So I think Pre -K for

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All is going to take a combination of public

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and private sector coming together, but it's

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something we've got to get done. Like I think

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about the kids in Evelyn's class, like she's

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in kindergarten and I look at her classroom and

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I just know by the statistics that more than

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half of those kids walk through the door and

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they're not ready. And so we've got to do something

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about that. On the topic of issues, is there

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another, maybe a different issue that Kentucky

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faces that you think deserves more national attention?

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So I will tell you this, I think one of the big

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challenges that we're seeing now is there's a

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lot of issues going on with the federal government

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and internationally with tariffs and with all

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of those things. Most people don't realize, and

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I grew up on a farm in Mercer County, but most

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people don't realize how high the suicide rate

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is for farmers. It's a demographic that is...

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higher than normal. And when you think about

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it, they're running a small business because

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every farm is a small business. They probably

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can't make ends meet with that alone. So they

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also have a whole nother career and job that

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they're working on. And so one of the issues

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that, you know, with the tariffs, with the soybean

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issues that we're hearing about, all of the things

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that are happening around agriculture, I'm actually

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really concerned about farmers' mental health.

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And so that's something that I think we need

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to lift up a little bit more, obviously in a

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very agricultural dependent state, but across

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the country as well, because these are real issues

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that sometimes, you know, if you have to sell

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your family farm or you know you're not going

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to be able to make ends meet, that changes the

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dynamic of your family. And so it's something

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I think we've got to be aware of and we've got

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to be better at providing supports for. And we

00:19:02.890 --> 00:19:05.609
know in Kentucky, I mean, the weather alone is

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a massive impact on farmers and the year that

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we've had. Yeah. Wow, like every the pendulum

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of weather. Right. And just like all of the things

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that our agricultural community has to deal with

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that they can't control is hard enough. And so

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when you throw more and more at them, you know,

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it just we have an aging farming population.

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It's harder and harder for young people to get

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involved because I don't know how people afford

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to farm anymore, to be honest with you. And then

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the farmland is shrinking. And so that's a workforce

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issue. And and we don't always think about it

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like that. Because you think a lot of times when

00:19:42.789 --> 00:19:45.630
we think of workforce, we think of like, college

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degrees and you know, maybe manufacturing plants

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and things like that. But it's agriculture, too.

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Yeah, well, it's something probably that a lot

00:19:52.910 --> 00:19:56.730
of us I didn't grow up on a farm, but in a rural

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rural community. But you don't always think that's

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where your food comes from, right? Without farmers.

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Mm hmm. We're not eating. So right, right. And

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support them. Yeah. And we have a great programs

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in Kentucky's high schools and colleges and even

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some middle schools like FFA and 4 -H and things

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like that. But I actually worked with our ad

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commissioner, Jonathan Schell. And it's always

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funny when people see us together because they're

00:20:21.430 --> 00:20:25.069
like, you guys are not alike at all. And we're

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not. We come from two different parties. I know

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you've interviewed him a few times. Yeah. But

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when it comes to ag education, we are I mean,

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on the same page about it, because we both know

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how important it is. And so we work together

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to create All In for Ag Education Week in Kentucky

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to get into our elementary schools and to get

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kids to exactly what you said. They need to know

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where their food comes from. They need to understand

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it a little bit better. And so just that creating

00:20:51.380 --> 00:20:54.539
awareness around it. And I always say, you know,

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for every challenge we face, education is the

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solution. And that's true with ag education as

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well. Definitely. Just curiosity, what kind of

00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:05.660
farm did you grow up on? We had, so we had horses

00:21:05.660 --> 00:21:08.539
and cattle and we actually leased out part of

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it for tobacco a long time ago, too. So yeah.

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You mentioned working closely with Commissioner

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Schell. You also, of course, worked closely with

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the governor. Is there anything that has surprised

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you with over the past few years working with

00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:25.509
him? You know, the truth is Uh, Andy is really

00:21:25.509 --> 00:21:28.009
funny. You know, he's very serious on his, you

00:21:28.009 --> 00:21:30.589
know, he, and he, and when he, he's, uh, you

00:21:30.589 --> 00:21:32.650
know, obviously a great leader and he's done

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a great job getting us through some really tough

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times. So none of those things, you know, there's

00:21:37.190 --> 00:21:40.269
no room for humor there, but, um, there are times

00:21:40.269 --> 00:21:44.349
where he just, he's so funny about things sometimes

00:21:44.349 --> 00:21:46.789
behind the scenes. And, um, I think a lot of

00:21:46.789 --> 00:21:49.309
people don't, may not see that part of him, but

00:21:49.309 --> 00:21:52.049
yeah, he's a, he's a funny guy. I have a confession

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about governor Beshear. This is from me and Larry,

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my co -anchor. So when Governor Beshear dressed

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up like Mr. Rogers before Halloween, his team

00:22:02.990 --> 00:22:05.309
Kentucky update that particular day was our lead

00:22:05.309 --> 00:22:07.289
story at five o 'clock and Larry and I had been

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running around. We didn't know that he was dressed

00:22:10.369 --> 00:22:13.089
up and we weren't even thinking that it's Halloween.

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And so Carolina Bucheck, our political reporter,

00:22:16.289 --> 00:22:19.670
pops up and makes no mention of it, you know,

00:22:19.670 --> 00:22:21.849
because it wasn't about that. And there's Governor

00:22:21.849 --> 00:22:26.279
Beshear in this. mean just really bad red sweater

00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:27.859
and Larry and I looked at each other and we were

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like oh my gosh because we're chatting while

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the package is playing and we said who let him

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wear that today? We figured it out shortly after.

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Not his usual style. No. That is hilarious. I

00:22:40.289 --> 00:22:43.650
actually think he would be very proud that people

00:22:43.650 --> 00:22:45.569
did not know he was... He got us. Yes, he did.

00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:47.069
He did. Yeah. And then the little video that

00:22:47.069 --> 00:22:48.769
came out after the fact, we were like, okay,

00:22:48.950 --> 00:22:50.750
it all makes sense now. But yeah, Larry and I,

00:22:50.970 --> 00:22:54.170
we were on high alert. Well, whoever his stylist

00:22:54.170 --> 00:22:57.289
is, I don't know. Right. Right. You know, you

00:22:57.289 --> 00:23:00.009
mentioned, this is a little more serious, but

00:23:00.009 --> 00:23:03.029
you mentioned the challenges that you all have

00:23:03.029 --> 00:23:05.819
dealt with. natural disasters. I can't think

00:23:05.819 --> 00:23:07.859
of another state that has almost experienced

00:23:07.859 --> 00:23:09.839
as many natural disasters in the time that I've

00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.299
been here in Kentucky, five years. What is it

00:23:12.299 --> 00:23:15.319
like for you all on a personal level? When obviously,

00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.720
you know, there are people who have experienced

00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.680
these things and it's hard to even fathom what

00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:22.119
they're dealing with. But what is it like when

00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:24.420
you go to a place that has just been devastated

00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:26.740
for you all to deal with that and meet with people

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and see people? Does that take a toll on you

00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:33.019
personally? It does, but I think it has to. Because

00:23:33.019 --> 00:23:36.400
our thing, and this is how we've always been

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:40.339
from the beginning, is we show up. Neither one

00:23:40.339 --> 00:23:42.200
of us have ever claimed to have all the answers.

00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:43.839
Neither one of us have ever claimed that we know

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:47.500
how to solve every problem. But what we try to

00:23:47.500 --> 00:23:51.420
do is show up and listen and put yourself in

00:23:51.420 --> 00:23:55.779
that person's shoes, which makes it gut -wrenching

00:23:55.779 --> 00:24:01.059
sometimes. It also is what humanizes the situation.

00:24:01.299 --> 00:24:03.160
And it, again, instead of it being a statistic

00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.960
or a spreadsheet, I can tell you that family's

00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:07.819
name. I can tell you their story and what happened

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:10.819
to them. And I, you know, look at these parents,

00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:13.180
especially like with kids like Evelyn's age when

00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:17.180
she was, you know, maybe two when the tornadoes

00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:19.980
and the floods happened. And you see those families,

00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.279
they've lost everything and they're moving into

00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:28.579
a travel trailer, which, you know, We provided

00:24:28.579 --> 00:24:31.680
those and most states don't and so everyone was

00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.180
just happy to have somewhere to go But then you

00:24:34.180 --> 00:24:37.420
think their whole like their entire home is gone

00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:39.740
and they're moving into this little place and

00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:42.599
they're trying to figure out like Where are there?

00:24:42.859 --> 00:24:45.579
Where are the papers that they need? How do they?

00:24:45.940 --> 00:24:48.700
begin to like navigate the FEMA process and what

00:24:48.700 --> 00:24:51.400
do they do for work and so like all of those

00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.740
things if you've got to put yourself in it or

00:24:55.069 --> 00:24:57.609
or you're too far removed, in my opinion. And

00:24:57.609 --> 00:25:01.410
so when we go, it's hard. It's hard to see people

00:25:01.410 --> 00:25:03.490
going through those things. I think about being

00:25:03.490 --> 00:25:08.190
in Wolf County at the shelters, but people in

00:25:08.190 --> 00:25:10.250
Wolf County didn't get hit by the floods the

00:25:10.250 --> 00:25:12.390
way that Bradford County did, but they opened

00:25:12.390 --> 00:25:15.750
all of their gyms in the school system and let

00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:17.789
people move in and stay there as like a shelter.

00:25:18.429 --> 00:25:21.849
And so I just go around and talk to people and,

00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:23.829
you know, sometimes they're like, they're almost

00:25:23.829 --> 00:25:28.009
embarrassed and, and, and I'm like, you didn't

00:25:28.009 --> 00:25:30.410
do anything wrong. You know, this is, this could

00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:33.289
have happened to anybody. And so to sit there

00:25:33.289 --> 00:25:35.529
and listen to them and some of them have their

00:25:35.529 --> 00:25:37.589
animals with them. Some of them have babies and

00:25:37.589 --> 00:25:39.269
all, you know, pet, you know, pet the animals,

00:25:39.349 --> 00:25:41.789
hold the babies, listen, give the moms a break

00:25:41.789 --> 00:25:45.529
for a minute. And that's all so important because.

00:25:46.339 --> 00:25:49.079
It really helps you to understand not just like

00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.940
from a policy level of You know the things that

00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:55.079
you need to get done but you also need to understand

00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.119
how it makes families feel and When you personalize

00:25:58.119 --> 00:25:59.960
it in that way I think you're you're able to

00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.460
better serve people and even though it's hard

00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:04.480
and it would be easier just to stay away and

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.420
send resources in I Think there's something about

00:26:07.420 --> 00:26:09.079
it that you have to put yourself in the middle

00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:12.089
of it to truly understand it. Yeah After you

00:26:12.089 --> 00:26:15.190
have those days when you're kind of on the ground

00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:17.529
meeting those families, what is the work like

00:26:17.529 --> 00:26:20.210
once you get back to the Capitol and are working

00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:22.170
on emergency funding and all of those things?

00:26:22.529 --> 00:26:23.970
Well, I'll tell you, one of the things that we

00:26:23.970 --> 00:26:25.789
actually were able to get done because of all

00:26:25.789 --> 00:26:28.910
of this. So I go to, I go to Jackson and the

00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:31.190
Lexington fire department is like command central.

00:26:31.250 --> 00:26:33.710
They're the ones that have set up and are helping,

00:26:33.710 --> 00:26:36.410
you know, in all of all of areas. And so they

00:26:36.410 --> 00:26:38.650
start pointing out to me that, okay, well here's

00:26:38.650 --> 00:26:42.250
West Virginia's team and here's Tennessee's team

00:26:42.250 --> 00:26:43.690
and here's Indiana's team. And I'm like, what

00:26:43.690 --> 00:26:45.990
are you talking about teams? And they said, well,

00:26:46.250 --> 00:26:48.410
every state around us has an urban search and

00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:50.910
rescue team. They call them USAR teams, except

00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:54.130
for us. And I'm like, well, why don't we have

00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:56.609
one? You know, and they're like, well, come sit

00:26:56.609 --> 00:26:58.089
down and we'll tell you all about it. They had

00:26:58.089 --> 00:27:01.450
been trying to get a USAR team passed in Kentucky

00:27:01.450 --> 00:27:04.869
since after the tornado in West Liberty in 2011.

00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:07.450
And they were like, we can't even get the bill

00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:10.089
heard. Like no one will even hear it to even

00:27:10.620 --> 00:27:13.059
voted up or down. And I'm like, we're going to

00:27:13.059 --> 00:27:15.720
fix this because we were just coming off of the

00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.799
tornadoes and now the flood. And we have a great

00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.279
guard, KSP, first responders. They're amazing,

00:27:23.099 --> 00:27:26.200
but they were kind of operating in their own

00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.980
little places and doing the best they could without

00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:31.700
any kind of coordination, support, resources.

00:27:32.399 --> 00:27:34.420
that every other state around us had. We were

00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:36.680
like one of seven states that didn't have a USAR

00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.140
team. And I'm like, okay, now is the time, you

00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:42.859
know? And so I worked with the first responders

00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:46.220
here in Lexington. They handled some of the legislative

00:27:46.220 --> 00:27:48.799
side, and I worked with Kentucky Emergency Management,

00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.819
the governor's office. And we got that bill passed

00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:55.880
in both chambers unanimously, and the governor

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.500
signed it into law. So something that they'd

00:27:57.500 --> 00:27:59.759
been trying to get done for over a decade and

00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.150
couldn't even get a vote on it. passed unanimously

00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:04.029
in both chambers and was signed into law. So

00:28:04.029 --> 00:28:08.710
now we have an organized response that is faster,

00:28:08.869 --> 00:28:11.710
more efficient, better resource than it was before.

00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:15.109
So when the next, you know, natural disaster

00:28:15.109 --> 00:28:17.069
hits, we're going to be a little bit better than

00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:18.589
we were the last time and a little bit better

00:28:18.589 --> 00:28:20.190
than we were the last time. And so those are

00:28:20.190 --> 00:28:22.390
the kind of things that when you learn about

00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:25.539
like, well, Why does Kentucky not have this and

00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:26.660
everyone else does? You wouldn't even realize

00:28:26.660 --> 00:28:30.119
that it doesn't have that. No. And so I just

00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.480
decided like, okay, we're going to do something

00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.640
about that. And so we were able to get it done.

00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.180
Yeah. Going back to other issues and kind of

00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:40.640
your to -do list, do you feel like you still

00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.190
have unfinished business in Frankfurt? Oh, yeah.

00:28:43.329 --> 00:28:45.509
I mean, I don't know that you ever ever really

00:28:45.509 --> 00:28:47.430
feel like you get the things done that you want

00:28:47.430 --> 00:28:50.849
to get done. But I want to I want to see the

00:28:50.849 --> 00:28:53.650
the child care through for our state employees.

00:28:54.269 --> 00:28:57.950
And we're working on that. Pre -K for all four

00:28:57.950 --> 00:29:00.789
year olds is huge. And it would change the trajectory

00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:05.509
of a generation of kids and their and their futures.

00:29:05.609 --> 00:29:08.930
But it also would provide so much relief to working

00:29:08.930 --> 00:29:12.680
moms and, you know. and businesses who need workers

00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:16.359
right now. So those two things I think are really

00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.319
important to make sure that we get those done.

00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.680
We also have a lot of economic development announcements

00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.319
and jobs and all of those things that we want

00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.319
to make sure that we put a bow on all of it before

00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:31.099
we leave and get it done so that there's no hold

00:29:31.099 --> 00:29:34.039
up once we leave office. We want to make sure

00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.160
we finish what we started is what I like to say.

00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.240
I saw a very interesting headline this week.

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.420
It said starting in 2026, 14 states will have

00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:44.359
female governors. You might've seen that same

00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.299
headline from NBC. What would it take for you

00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:50.759
to consider running for governor? Well, I am.

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.839
I'm giving it some serious consideration here

00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.680
in Kentucky. It's interesting that I know Abigail

00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.940
Spanberger in Virginia and Mikey Sherrill in

00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:03.180
New Jersey. I've had the privilege of getting

00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:05.779
to know them and calling them friends. And so

00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:08.339
watching their move from Congress to the governor's

00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:12.160
office was a really cool thing to see. And in

00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.359
the same week that our country elected a record

00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.579
number of female governors on both sides of the

00:30:16.579 --> 00:30:20.839
aisle, Kentucky laid to rest our only female

00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:22.740
governor so far with Martha Lynn Collins, who

00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:27.079
was also a teacher. And so it was almost like

00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.799
a full circle moment. while I thought, you know,

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.920
this is a hero that blaze trails and this is

00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.059
a well -deserved rest for her. I just keep thinking

00:30:37.059 --> 00:30:39.099
there's a whole lot more work to be done. And

00:30:39.099 --> 00:30:42.259
so I'm going to, I'm going to keep thinking about

00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:44.200
it, talking to folks about it. I've had a lot

00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.519
of conversations with people across Kentucky

00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.099
about it, just looking for, you know, what, what

00:30:49.099 --> 00:30:50.920
are, what do we need in a leader? What do we

00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.819
need to keep the good things going and, and where

00:30:53.819 --> 00:30:55.720
we're not hitting all of our marks, what do we

00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.559
need to do differently? And I think that legacy

00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.589
is important. What are some of the things that

00:31:01.589 --> 00:31:03.250
people are telling you that they want to see

00:31:03.250 --> 00:31:05.049
in a leader or some of the things they would

00:31:05.049 --> 00:31:07.230
want to see you tackle if you were in that role?

00:31:07.509 --> 00:31:10.130
Yeah, well, everybody wants to make sure that

00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:12.910
their school is the best, right, and gets better

00:31:12.910 --> 00:31:16.730
at every turn. And I always say the future of

00:31:16.730 --> 00:31:18.829
Kentucky's economy is in our classrooms today.

00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:21.009
And so even if you don't think about it from

00:31:21.009 --> 00:31:22.849
an education perspective, you got to think about

00:31:22.849 --> 00:31:25.490
it from an economic one because that's our driver.

00:31:26.390 --> 00:31:28.410
I hear from people all the time that they want

00:31:28.410 --> 00:31:32.069
to keep the good economic development and job

00:31:32.069 --> 00:31:35.470
creation going. And they also want to keep, you

00:31:35.470 --> 00:31:38.930
know, Andy and I have really made a conscious

00:31:38.930 --> 00:31:42.460
effort. to keep Washington DC out of Kentucky,

00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:45.000
you know, in terms of like the rhetoric and the

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:46.839
culture war stuff that you hear on the news all

00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.579
the time that it might be, you know, great to

00:31:50.579 --> 00:31:54.839
talk about on TV, but in reality, normal people

00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.099
aren't thinking about those things or worried

00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:59.539
about those things. They're thinking about, you

00:31:59.539 --> 00:32:03.640
know, their kids' schools and the roads and their

00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.559
safety and things like that. And so making sure

00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.269
that we keep it to where Kentucky is focused

00:32:10.269 --> 00:32:12.430
on Kentucky and we don't let all of the other

00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:15.150
stuff that goes on elsewhere distract us. It's

00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:17.049
something that people actually have really liked

00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:20.670
because it's exhausting. You know, that other

00:32:20.670 --> 00:32:23.829
stuff is just exhausting to constantly have to

00:32:23.829 --> 00:32:26.430
worry about whatever culture war of the day is

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:28.829
on cable news. And so I've heard from a lot of

00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:30.609
people, I really like that you guys don't get

00:32:30.609 --> 00:32:33.509
involved in that. So that's fine with me because

00:32:33.509 --> 00:32:35.509
I think it's exhausting and I have a I think

00:32:35.509 --> 00:32:37.509
it's the teacher and the coach in me that I just

00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:40.109
don't have time for the nonsense Sure, like we

00:32:40.109 --> 00:32:43.359
have a job to get done. So that's how I focus

00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.000
on it too. What do you hope your legacy is that

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.279
part of what you hope your legacy is in Frankfurt?

00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:50.460
I mean, that would be nice if people could look

00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:53.380
back and say, you know, the Beshear Coleman administration

00:32:53.380 --> 00:32:55.740
went to work every day, they showed up for people.

00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.759
They they focus on the things that we're worried

00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.960
about. And they didn't drag us through, you know,

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.359
the national mud. That would be that would be

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.579
fine with me if that's if that's the legacy that

00:33:07.579 --> 00:33:10.200
we leave behind. Yeah. Is there something that

00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.119
people would be surprised to learn about you

00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:20.339
outside of politics? Oh, I am a little obsessed

00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:25.279
with Christmas. Well, you know how to segue.

00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:32.900
So I really didn't get into it a lot, like growing

00:33:32.900 --> 00:33:37.029
up, but When I got my own house and my own family,

00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:42.009
I was like, we're gonna do this big. So I may

00:33:42.009 --> 00:33:45.329
or may not have four Christmas trees. And then

00:33:45.329 --> 00:33:47.329
I decorate the one in our office. I won't let

00:33:47.329 --> 00:33:49.589
anyone else do it. It's like those clips where

00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:51.910
the mom is like, why is no one helping me? And

00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:53.650
then someone tries to put an ornament on and

00:33:53.650 --> 00:33:57.069
you're like, wrong place. That's not my vision.

00:33:57.349 --> 00:34:01.150
I know, I know. So the governor's mansion staff

00:34:01.150 --> 00:34:03.329
will come in sometimes to our offices and so

00:34:03.329 --> 00:34:04.980
they saw the tree. And they're like, who did

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:08.559
this? And my office folks were like the lieutenant

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.239
governor and they were like, can she come help

00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.079
us decorate the mansion? I was like, I don't

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.539
think you know how much I would love to do that.

00:34:13.980 --> 00:34:17.940
So we have all those things. And I just love,

00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:20.380
I just love making it feel like Christmas. And

00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:23.679
I used to be a very hardcore wait till the day

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.440
after Thanksgiving. And then I realized it just,

00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.539
it makes me happy. And so I'm just doing it.

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:30.719
So I do it at the beginning of November. Hey,

00:34:31.019 --> 00:34:33.159
yeah, no rules. I love that. I respect that.

00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.380
Yeah. Having a five year old, what's that like

00:34:35.380 --> 00:34:37.659
around the holidays? Well, she's so into it.

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:41.119
Like, we have an elf. Is that the elf on the

00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:45.139
shelf? Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Not my not my decision.

00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:48.900
And also not my responsibility. Sure. I was like,

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.679
I do everything else. Chris can move the elf.

00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:56.809
So We have, she gets into that and she talks

00:34:56.809 --> 00:34:58.710
about Christmas all year long. Like she'll listen

00:34:58.710 --> 00:35:01.289
to Christmas music in the summer. And so Chris

00:35:01.289 --> 00:35:03.590
is like, you have created a little Christmas

00:35:03.590 --> 00:35:06.030
monster. And I'm like, I really have. So now

00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:08.210
she's into like timelines. So she's trying to

00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:10.989
figure out like how many days until this, how

00:35:10.989 --> 00:35:13.510
many weeks until this. And I have totally thrown

00:35:13.510 --> 00:35:16.269
her off by decorating, you know, early because

00:35:16.269 --> 00:35:18.230
she thinks Christmas is like next week. And I'm

00:35:18.230 --> 00:35:20.170
like, no, that's Thanksgiving. She's like, well,

00:35:20.230 --> 00:35:21.969
when's Christmas? And I'm like, it's coming.

00:35:22.710 --> 00:35:25.849
It's coming. Keeping her on her toes. Never know

00:35:25.849 --> 00:35:27.650
when Christmas is going to be here. Do you have

00:35:27.650 --> 00:35:33.409
a favorite Kentucky Christmas tradition? I really

00:35:33.409 --> 00:35:39.949
like going to see the Southern Lights at the

00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:44.510
horse park. We like to do that. Sometimes there's

00:35:44.510 --> 00:35:47.809
houses that are in our neighborhood. The neighborhood

00:35:47.809 --> 00:35:51.559
we live in now, they have a competition. And

00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.380
they're serious about it. So like so many of

00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:58.380
the houses in our neighborhood decorate and every

00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.579
since Evelyn could like tell us what she wanted

00:36:01.579 --> 00:36:05.980
to do every night in like from Thanksgiving to

00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:09.019
Christmas, we go drive the neighborhood. And

00:36:09.019 --> 00:36:12.369
you know, so she knows even in like the summer,

00:36:12.389 --> 00:36:14.369
she'll say, well, that's the house with the Grinch

00:36:14.369 --> 00:36:17.150
and that's the house with with Mickey Mouse and

00:36:17.150 --> 00:36:19.869
that's the house with Elsa or whatever. And so

00:36:19.869 --> 00:36:21.969
we drive the neighborhood every single night.

00:36:22.630 --> 00:36:26.610
And she we look at as the lights go up and as

00:36:26.610 --> 00:36:28.710
people start to decorate and she remembers them

00:36:28.710 --> 00:36:30.789
all year long. So that's what we do literally

00:36:30.789 --> 00:36:33.469
every night. I love that. I have to start doing

00:36:33.469 --> 00:36:36.409
some good houses in Lexington. Yeah, since you

00:36:36.409 --> 00:36:39.380
do have kids of all different ages. What is Christmas

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:42.539
morning look like for you guys? I mean, is your

00:36:42.539 --> 00:36:45.699
five year old waking up at 5am or the older kids

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:48.219
sleeping in? Like what's it like? Yes, and yes.

00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.619
So Evelyn, we have to make sure that she doesn't

00:36:51.619 --> 00:36:54.119
go downstairs without us, obviously, but we actually

00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.280
send her to wake up all the big kids. And I'm

00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.480
like, you can't go downstairs until everybody's

00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.139
awake. So she's just jumping on them and you

00:37:02.139 --> 00:37:05.980
know, like, get up. And they actually really

00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:08.030
like I mean, like they probably wouldn't get

00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:10.869
up early if it weren't for her. So they love

00:37:10.869 --> 00:37:13.070
to come down and watch her just get so excited

00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:15.730
about everything too. So it's so fun being with

00:37:15.730 --> 00:37:18.670
kids around the holidays. It is it really adds

00:37:18.670 --> 00:37:20.690
an element of chaos that I think is kind of needed.

00:37:20.769 --> 00:37:23.489
That's a great way to say that. Yeah, it is the

00:37:23.489 --> 00:37:25.309
holiday season. This episode will be coming out

00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:27.150
right at the start of December. But it's you

00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:28.530
know, a time when people are thinking of what

00:37:28.530 --> 00:37:31.369
they have what they're grateful for. What does

00:37:31.369 --> 00:37:36.590
that mean for you? I I'm really grateful. for

00:37:36.590 --> 00:37:39.750
honestly the the the goodness that I get to see

00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:42.610
every day from the people in Kentucky. You know,

00:37:42.610 --> 00:37:45.849
we just did our Salvation Army Red Kettle kickoff.

00:37:46.789 --> 00:37:49.869
And in the angel tree, we have one of those at

00:37:49.869 --> 00:37:51.969
our church and, and I actually was able to thank

00:37:51.969 --> 00:37:54.530
the Salvation Army for giving us an opportunity

00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:58.110
to help because sometimes people will say like,

00:37:58.289 --> 00:38:00.130
I just want to help, but I don't know how, right.

00:38:00.550 --> 00:38:02.530
So I thank them for giving us an opportunity

00:38:02.530 --> 00:38:04.989
to help but also to give us the opportunity to

00:38:04.989 --> 00:38:07.510
teach our kids how to help. So trying to explain

00:38:07.510 --> 00:38:09.909
to Evelyn like why that person is ringing the

00:38:09.909 --> 00:38:12.449
bell when we go to Kroger and explaining to her

00:38:12.449 --> 00:38:15.329
why we got an angel off the tree at church and

00:38:15.329 --> 00:38:17.570
helping her to understand like some kids don't

00:38:17.570 --> 00:38:20.250
have a lot of things for Christmas. And so we're

00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:22.150
going to help them. We're going to help get some

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:25.030
presents for some kids and for her to get excited

00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:26.989
about getting things for other people and for

00:38:26.989 --> 00:38:31.250
helping someone that she'll never meet. one of

00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:35.730
my favorite things to do now. But the opportunities

00:38:35.730 --> 00:38:39.130
that we've been given to get to know people in

00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:41.409
Kentucky, the things I've learned from them,

00:38:42.670 --> 00:38:46.530
it's just been something that I honestly, I think

00:38:46.530 --> 00:38:48.469
about how lucky I am every day that I get to

00:38:48.469 --> 00:38:51.590
do it. And it's never left me. And I don't think

00:38:51.590 --> 00:38:54.070
it ever will because it's just something I really

00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:57.420
enjoy. Well, that puts a nice Christmas bow on

00:38:57.420 --> 00:39:01.219
our conversation. Before we let you go, we know

00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:03.480
you're very busy. We want to do a few quick hot

00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.800
takes for you. Quick questions. They're not too

00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.980
crazy, so don't worry. First one, underrated

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:14.699
Kentucky town. Oh, underrated Kentucky town.

00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:21.199
This is a hard one, I think. It is, you know?

00:39:21.469 --> 00:39:25.250
I just went to Millersburg in Bourbon County.

00:39:25.489 --> 00:39:28.210
They're very festive there. Very festive. And

00:39:28.210 --> 00:39:30.469
they have a whole Main Street program they're

00:39:30.469 --> 00:39:32.889
trying to because they had that fire not a while

00:39:32.889 --> 00:39:36.730
ago. And so they're really trying to get everything

00:39:36.730 --> 00:39:40.090
back up and going. And it is a cute little town

00:39:40.090 --> 00:39:43.159
and they I can tell like They are working really

00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.360
hard to get it back to where they want it to

00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.719
be. And so like, it's it, that's a good one.

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.039
And that's one that I actually had not been to

00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.940
before. Like Paris and Bourbon County, but not

00:39:52.940 --> 00:39:58.599
Millersburg. Who would play you in a movie about

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:02.920
your life in politics? Oh, and Eddie has already

00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.820
answered this question for you yesterday. So

00:40:05.820 --> 00:40:08.099
maybe after you say yours, I'll say what I said.

00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.340
Okay. So I hear just from like, looking like

00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:13.860
me. There are two actresses that people always

00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:16.079
tell me look like me. One is the woman on the

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.860
blacklist. I don't know who's that. I can't think

00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:20.559
of her name. But if you watch the black woman,

00:40:20.659 --> 00:40:23.320
okay. And the other one is Olivia Wilde. Oh,

00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:28.659
that's that. Yeah, yeah, that. But from Yeah,

00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:30.460
I would say I guess one of those two just because

00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:35.880
they look like me but from a maybe from an attitude

00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.260
perspective, it would be like a, I don't know,

00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:41.019
like a maybe like a Sandra Bullock. That's a

00:40:41.019 --> 00:40:43.800
good one too. I said Julia Roberts. That's who

00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.820
I thought maybe. Wow. This was discussion in

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:48.780
the newsroom. Who would play you in a movie?

00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.860
All right. Couple more holiday questions. Hallmark

00:40:52.860 --> 00:40:56.510
movies or no? No. Really, I don't do Hallmark

00:40:56.510 --> 00:40:59.630
movies. Mm -hmm. I do like I have a favorite

00:40:59.630 --> 00:41:02.090
though. We watch it every year It's called four

00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:04.889
Christmases. Oh, so good. I don't think I've

00:41:04.889 --> 00:41:07.369
seen that one. Oh, you got to it's like Vince

00:41:07.369 --> 00:41:10.610
Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon Oh, okay. Yeah,

00:41:10.610 --> 00:41:12.929
it's very cute. Both of their families. Both

00:41:12.929 --> 00:41:15.230
of their parents are divorced And so that's what

00:41:15.230 --> 00:41:18.030
the four Christmases, but it's so it's it's a

00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:21.300
funny it especially like anytime you have like

00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.000
dysfunction in the family, you see it in that

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.960
movie and you're like, okay, so I'm not the only

00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.480
one. Right. You're not alone. Right. Okay. This

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.059
is, we already asked you Christmas tradition,

00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:31.780
but what's your favorite Kentucky tradition in

00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:35.000
general? Oh gosh. My favorite. Well, it would

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.760
have to be the Derby because Chris and I got

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.440
engaged on Derby day at Keeneland and then we

00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.679
got married the next Derby day. Um, and we timed

00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.539
it so that our reception would be a Derby party.

00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:49.780
So we watched the Derby. We got married. We had

00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:51.380
a horse barn and that's where we got, that's

00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:53.519
where we got married. Um, and had our reception.

00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.679
And so my dad to this day will say something

00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.559
very sarcastic on Derby day, like, Oh, well there's

00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:02.340
nothing else to do in Kentucky on Derby day.

00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:05.940
So let's get married. You know, but it was the

00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:10.599
best. It was a very Kentucky. Like. experience.

00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:12.900
And so I'm glad that we did it that way. Yeah,

00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.340
very cool. Yeah, that is very Kentucky. Yeah.

00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:17.619
Lieutenant Governor, any final thoughts or any

00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:19.239
message to the folks who are going to listen

00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.900
or watch this? Well, I would just say, if you're

00:42:22.900 --> 00:42:25.159
out there listening and you're and you're able,

00:42:25.739 --> 00:42:29.960
you know, go go to your local Kroger or maybe

00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.579
I think they have angel trees at the mall and

00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:34.280
it you know, in churches and things like that

00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.760
and just If you could help one person, get a

00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.340
meal for them at Kroger or buy some gifts for

00:42:41.340 --> 00:42:44.000
some kids that need it, take a little time to

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.500
do that because it may feel like the need is

00:42:48.500 --> 00:42:50.059
so big that you don't know where to start. But

00:42:50.059 --> 00:42:52.340
if everybody did just a little something, it

00:42:52.340 --> 00:42:55.000
would have a huge impact. And so I hope as folks

00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.659
are listening, they remember to help some other

00:42:58.659 --> 00:43:02.139
folks during the holiday season, especially.

00:43:03.610 --> 00:43:06.030
Thank you so much for being here. We enjoyed

00:43:06.030 --> 00:43:08.610
it. This is awesome. We leveled up on Hot Mic.

00:43:09.570 --> 00:43:11.429
I can't wait to recap this. It's going to be

00:43:11.429 --> 00:43:13.250
good. Lieutenant Governor, thank you so much

00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:15.150
for taking the time. It was so nice to get to

00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:17.789
know you a little better and more about who Jacqueline

00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:20.030
Coleman is. Thank you. Thank you for coming on.

00:43:20.230 --> 00:43:22.769
To our listeners and our viewers, thank you so

00:43:22.769 --> 00:43:25.110
much and we will see you on next week's episode

00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:26.250
of Hot Mic.
